Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Thursday, 2015-04-30

00:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Spotlight Music: I'll Fly (174UDSI Remix) / Frostfire [ http://tinyurl.com/nozj2k4 ]

00:01 <KooK> So I got the final package today so I can put my fuel filter together...

00:01 <KooK> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2sg5gi79pr273gr/IMG_20150429_175358_408.jpg?dl=0

00:01 <KooK> I'm sitting back at it, looking, oh yeah, that looks mighty nice...

00:02 <KooK> 3 seconds later I think about it, "That's $350 worth of fuel filter..."

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00:03 <init3> Wow

00:03 <DataByteBrony> it reminds me of something... else..

00:03 <KooK> Right?

00:03 <DataByteBrony> :P

00:03 <init3> You redoing your whole fuel delivery system?

00:04 <Schism> Just a little bit, yes...

00:04 <KooK> I thought about that when I was uploading that picture

00:04 <init3> Oh so I wasn't the only one.

00:04 <DataByteBrony> xD

00:04 <DataByteBrony> we are horrible

00:05 <KooK> Hahahahaha

00:05 <fyrepony> https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2012/5/18/4055__rainbow+dash_applejack_suggestive_appledash_wingboner_artist-colon-el-dash-yeguero_morning_morning+wood_morning+wing.jpg

00:06 <DataByteBrony> hahaha

00:06 <init3> Jaja

00:06 <init3> Good morning

00:06 <DataByteBrony> you are horrible, too, fyrepony :P

00:06 <fyrepony> :3

00:06 <IngwazBT> Hey all.  Don't mean to spam up the chat or anything, but if any of you are planning on going to EFNW, I have access to a special discount rate code for a hotel.  If anyone is interested, let me know.

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00:07 <DataByteBrony> i may be interested in MLP-MSP...

00:07 <ZeroParadox> in wut

00:07 <DataByteBrony> i have a room for trotcon, same offer xD

00:07 <IngwazBT> ZeroParadox: everfree northwest.  it's one of the larger conventions and it's happening in seattle

00:08 <DataByteBrony> mlp-msp: http://mlp-msp.com/

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00:09 <ryaxnb21> i know this isn't a reference, but when Starlight says the staff is a piece of wood i found in the desert

00:10 <ryaxnb21> all i could think of was "i found the ring in a crackerjack box!"

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00:10 <ryaxnb21> "the schwartz is in you, lone starr!"

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00:15 <Schism> Hah, you never know, /could/ have been a reference to something.

00:15 <ryaxnb21> hehe

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00:15 <ryaxnb21> Spaceballs is a great movie.

00:15 <Schism> Oh, definitely.

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00:16 <ryaxnb21> that was one of the more memorable scenes in the movie, because it made sense that "the force is in you" as it is in the films it's parodying, but i figured they were just being sufficently different for the sake of not exactly copying the force

00:16 <ryaxnb21> so i didn't predict that

00:17 <fyrepony> sims  4 is fun

00:17 <ryaxnb21> fyrepony sims 2 is better.

00:18 <ryaxnb21> also, combined with the creepy atmosphere of "the village", and the fact that it's not named, when twilight says at the end "does that mean you'll stay in the village?"

00:19 <ryaxnb21> i sometimes read it as "does that mean you'll stay in The Village?"

00:19 <ryaxnb21> Who is number one? You are number 2!

00:19 <ryaxnb21> :P

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00:19 <ryaxnb21> the prisoner never named The Village beyond that name either.

00:22 <fyrepony> the village is cheesy horror movie

00:22 <ryaxnb21> nah, the village to me is always the one from the prisoner.

00:22 <ryaxnb21> that place was creepy in that it was unusually cheery too

00:22 <ryaxnb21> but it didn't lack flourishes; it had too many

00:22 <ryaxnb21> there were flourishes everywhere

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00:23 <ryaxnb21> it was like a romantic unescapable retrirement village.

00:29 <Schism> Our Town, Our Town...

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00:29 <Schism> But yes, The Prisoner was brilliant.

00:30 <Schism> Favourite episode, definitely Hammer Into Anvil.

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00:44 <Cepheid> You know, for a technical family, my parents are a pair of grade-A morons.

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00:46 <ryaxnb21> i noticed that in the equality song, Starlight is always in the center, or otherwise not equal with the other marching ponies

00:46 <ryaxnb21> she's the more equal horse

00:46 <ryaxnb21> she is the only one with a unique role in each marching formation

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00:51 <init3> Don't make me go on another tirade defending Starlight.

00:53 <init3> Equality horse is a bit misguided sure but I think her thing was more a means to an end, even if she had to be 'more equal'. Society in general needs leaders =. The real question is if she would have given up her cutie mark if the staff was a real thing. Everone seems to assume she wouldn't, I'm not so sure.  

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00:53 <Bubble-Berry> What

00:55 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS47v1j29ec

00:55 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Kitten Train

00:56 <Bubble-Berry> http://www.deviantart.com/art/sugar-skull-104335552

00:57 * ZeroParadox noms on the skull

00:57 <ZeroParadox> Mmmm, culture

00:57 <Bubble-Berry> I wonder what sugar skulls taste like... probably like sugar.

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00:58 <ryaxnb21> init3: i think she's not misguided, mostly because she's the first pony to just flat out shut up twilight's morality lesson... twice

00:59 <ryaxnb21> if she were misguided she would show some signs of at least listening to it

00:59 <Bubble-Berry> Oh wait they usually use beads and crap nevermind

00:59 <ryaxnb21> but she can't seem to STAND being told where she went wrong even as it's clear she did since her village turned against her

00:59 <ryaxnb21> i mean, it's likely she'll realize sometime later after ANOTHER big fight

01:00 <ryaxnb21> but right now, i think she's pretty much solidly evil

01:00 <ryaxnb21> with no ability to realize her mistakes

01:00 <init3> I kind of think she already knew what Twilight was going to say.

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01:00 <init3> And could have already considered it.

01:01 <ryaxnb21> i think she seems to also think it's false.

01:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fashion Style Applejack, Fluttershy, and Pinkie Pie Power Ponies Appear  [ http://tinyurl.com/mjznsze ]

01:01 <ryaxnb21> basically, i don't think she's totally irreedemable

01:01 <ryaxnb21> mainly because i don't think the show will kill her, and having her "on the loose" is too dangerous

01:01 <ryaxnb21> so if they ever bring her back they'll redeem her at the end to tie up loose ends

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01:01 <Bubble-Berry> You know what'd be cool? Like, a gas mask styled after sugar skulls

01:01 <ryaxnb21> but i don't think she's at all redeemable NOW

01:01 <ryaxnb21> and her actions in this episode were wrong 100%

01:02 <ryaxnb21> also funnily enough every village needs a leader but apparently celestia hasn't like had any contact with this village for however long its been up

01:02 <ryaxnb21> nor has any of her royal court members

01:02 <ryaxnb21> or like, any national government

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01:03 * Cepheid sets the channel on fire and riots.

01:03 <ryaxnb21> hands-off government style!

01:03 * Cepheid riots because he has no cupcakes.

01:03 <init3> !link ron paul

01:03 <DerpyBot> http://derpiboo.ru/540723

01:03 * Cepheid overturns a nearby stuffed animal!

01:03 <Muffin_Spectacles> "Rainbow Dash, Season 6 is going to be...Rogers-less!"

01:03 * Cepheid flips ADragonDreaming!

01:04 <ryaxnb21> also it's good the members of the village never dream

01:04 <ryaxnb21> otherwise luna could order them to rebel in their sleep

01:04 <ryaxnb21> it's a thing she can do

01:04 <Muffin_Spectacles> So, did Creber also voice her shadow as well?

01:04 <init3> I didn't take that line literally

01:05 <ryaxnb21> i didn't take it literally either.

01:05 <ryaxnb21> but if they do dream, why didn't luna notice a whole village of surely repressed dreams and such

01:05 <ryaxnb21> and say "gee this is suspicious"

01:05 <ryaxnb21> :P

01:05 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: Obviously, Celestia is forcing her to only be selective...

01:05 <init3> But here's my thing: I don't think the /framework/ of what Starlight was doing is inherently wrong.

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01:06 <init3> The luna thing... I don't have a response for really at this time but I don't want to derail into that.

01:06 <ryaxnb21> i do

01:06 <Muffin_Spectacles> Spike: "Do you!?" "I DO!"

01:06 <ryaxnb21> starlight took equality as a concept and stretched it from rights to personality.

01:07 <ryaxnb21> there's a difference between equal rights, and even the communism ideal of equal means

01:07 <ryaxnb21> and equal PERSONALITIES

01:07 <init3> I don't think she was demanding equal personalities.

01:07 <ryaxnb21> she was.

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01:07 <ryaxnb21> not seperate in anything but name.

01:07 <ryaxnb21> she says in her song...

01:07 <Muffin_Spectacles> At the most, cowing those to repress anything that may make them better or more best than others.

01:08 <init3> Just an equal skillset and treatment. (I knew you were going to say that)

01:08 <Muffin_Spectacles> Like that part in the song, 'Now every-pony wins!'

01:08 <init3> That may be in the song

01:08 <init3> But it did not express itself.

01:08 <ryaxnb21> sure it did

01:08 <ryaxnb21> AJ lost much of her personality

01:08 <init3> The creepy smiles?

01:08 <ryaxnb21> the staff is called the "staff of sameness"

01:09 <ryaxnb21> everyone can cook equally poorly and has equally low cooking enthusiasm

01:09 <Muffin_Spectacles> But the staff wasn't actually magical - it was Starlight's magic that turned it into a macguffin.

01:09 <ryaxnb21> etc etc

01:09 <init3> See, that's on the implementation side of things anyhow.

01:09 <ryaxnb21> well yeah, but the name indicates what it's supposed to do, since starlight named it.

01:09 <init3> But Sugar Belle obviously had a greater intrest in baking than other ponies.

01:09 <ryaxnb21> that was because she USED to

01:09 <ryaxnb21> and you can't wipe memories.

01:09 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: ...and...other things...according to some fanart...

01:09 <ryaxnb21> she remembered that she used to be good at that.

01:10 <init3> Haha I know that fan art

01:10 <ryaxnb21> it's like AJ, she knows she's supposed to be southern, but she can't be

01:10 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: There needs to be a rule: Cutie Mark is not Consent.

01:10 <init3> Hahahah

01:10 <ryaxnb21> she tries and fumbles it.

01:11 <init3> What if your cutie mark literally is "consent"?

01:11 <ryaxnb21> you become a prostitute?

01:11 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: Well, when some of my coworkers saw one of my mlp figures, one went. 'oh, she has a tramp-stamp!'

01:11 <ryaxnb21> hehe

01:11 <init3> Ok ok, I really really want to continue this line of conversation but we'll all get banned.

01:11 <init3> At least I will.

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01:12 <init3> Anyway

01:12 <Muffin_Spectacles> I didn't know we were being monitored *goes wall-eyed!*

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01:12 <Muffin_Spectacles> Well, after payday tomorrow, I'll head to Hot Topic and get Cadance, Shiny, and Spike.

01:13 <Muffin_Spectacles> HT has the buy one get one item 50% off.

01:13 <init3> Oooh

01:14 <Muffin_Spectacles> Now I start the speculation on wha could be coming next. I feel it could be Cheerilee, Zecora, and Applebloom. That'd be my trimvirate.

01:14 <init3> So I think the thing is, Starlight does seem a bit more evil every time I watch it. Still, I think you might have like someone starting with fully good intentions becoming misguided.

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01:14 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: Well, Starlight is evil, because of one certain word.

01:14 <init3> Which is why I say her framework is good.

01:14 <init3> "QUIET!"?

01:15 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: d'oh! You're one step ahead!

01:15 <ryaxnb21> i think she can be redeemed, but so can sunset

01:15 <ryaxnb21> everypony on this show except for like sombra and tirek can be

01:15 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: Well, I feel Starlight is older than Twilight and Sunset, so she might not be turned.

01:15 <init3> Hehe, I really try to see other's points of views.

01:15 <ryaxnb21> she'd need to learn that she's wrong.

01:15 <init3> Do you think Starlight is more evil than Sunset was?

01:16 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: My theory is still that she's related to Twilight, maybe as a distant Aunt. The star as part of her cutie mark looked similar to the ones on Twilight.

01:16 <ryaxnb21> i think she's better at being a villain

01:16 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: I see her as another Celestia student who didn't listen to 'reason.'

01:16 <ryaxnb21> but not neccesarily more malicious, they're about the same

01:16 <ryaxnb21> neither of them would actively kill or harm anypony

01:16 <init3> Because I think she was the least evil antagonist yet. Maybe save Chrysalis. A changeling's gotta eat.

01:16 <ryaxnb21> but they will do everything up to that line

01:16 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: Then again, that's my head-canon: Celestia became horribly, mentally scarred after banishing her sister...and only trained ponies who have names meaning light at the end of the day.

01:16 <ryaxnb21> init3: keep in mind sunset, like starlight, had a no-harm policy

01:16 <init3> Oh, that's interesting.

01:16 <ryaxnb21> she didn't kill spike when she had the dog and the sledgehammer in her hands.

01:17 <ryaxnb21> saying she "wasn't a monster"

01:17 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: Yeah, but when the crown purged her deeper desires, she was willing to kill.

01:17 <Muffin_Spectacles> my theory was the crown turned her personality inside-out, and as Twilight said, 'you showed everyone what was in your heart.'

01:17 <ryaxnb21> and given that starlight ensured her prisoners had food and water , i imagine she also didn't want them to die.

01:17 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: Well, you can catch more flies with honey.

01:18 <ryaxnb21> so neither of them actively intend to hurt/kill ponies, but they will do anything up to that.

01:18 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: Look how happily eager Fluttershy was to meet the villagers.

01:18 <ryaxnb21> yep

01:18 <Cepheid> Let's see if I can get some cold air in here..

01:18 <init3> Well I barely remember the first EG tbh.

01:18 <ryaxnb21> init3: there was also a moment when twilight called her bluff about destroying the mirror

01:18 <Muffin_Spectacles> I still would love to hear if there was a person in real life who was lke Sunset, but did turn herlife around. I think that would be a great story to tell.

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01:18 <ryaxnb21> and she says "fine. you win."

01:19 <ryaxnb21> she was actually willing to call defeat there, but then everyone congratulated twilight for saving the day

01:19 <init3> But for real, I think Sunset /thought/ she was doing the right thing. This is what I think makes her less evil.

01:19 <ryaxnb21> using the term "princess" each time.

01:19 <ryaxnb21> this made sunset incredibly pissed off

01:19 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: of course, that does show the divid: Twilight is willing to sacrifice herself, something Sunset couldn't do.

01:19 <ryaxnb21> since it reignited her jealousy.

01:19 <ryaxnb21> yeah. though sunset was willing to turn herself in if her jealousy hadn't gotten teh best of her at the last second

01:20 <init3> Err I meant to say starlight

01:20 <Muffin_Spectacles> Basically, I feel Sunset felt if she showed 'mercy,' she'd be seen as good...but the girls reacted to Twilight willing to sacrfices her own happiness and world to help them.

01:20 <ryaxnb21> of course turning herself in doesn't mean much seeing as she wouldn't really get too much punishment for it.

01:20 <init3> Thought she was doing the right thing, not Sunset.

01:20 <init3> Too confusing.

01:20 <ryaxnb21> yeah.

01:20 <ryaxnb21> sunset has  a longstanding jealousy of twilight.

01:21 <init3> That's why I don't see her as malevolent. She thought she was doing right.

01:21 <Muffin_Spectacles> Though one thing I wondered regarding Fluttershy in Rainbow Rocks: could you as a person, fid yourself being friends with someone who insulted and put you down in real life?

01:21 <init3> In my headcanon.

01:21 <ryaxnb21> in the second movie, it comes up at various points.

01:21 <ryaxnb21> Muffin_Spectacles: you could if you were fluttershy, because she's the element of kindness.

01:21 <init3> I have

01:21 <ryaxnb21> she's a wallflower.

01:21 <init3> My brothers literally tormented me growing up.

01:21 <ryaxnb21> she's willing to consider being friendly to anypony who treats her well

01:21 <init3> Now we are good friends.

01:22 <ryaxnb21> disregarding the best.

01:22 <ryaxnb21> past*.

01:22 <init3> And it's not just because we are blood.

01:22 <init3> I have made friends many times from people who hated me and I hated back.

01:22 <ryaxnb21> fluttershy hates being tormented sure but i imagine sunset would even be willing to stand up to bullies who bully fluts now

01:22 <ryaxnb21> everyone at school is still scared of sunset

01:23 <ryaxnb21> so i doubt that would be hard to do

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01:23 <init3> Hell, a few friends I've made after us getting in a fight. One of us wins, then we both laugh and go get food. Not an isolated incident.

01:23 <ryaxnb21> also

01:23 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: So it's like the fith in the first film.

01:24 <init3> The what?

01:24 <init3> I need to watch it again.

01:24 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: The fight between the girls. It got resolved, and they went out for sundaes.

01:24 <ryaxnb21> the second movie, you see that sunset still harbors jealousy towards twilight, but is willing to put it aside to let twilight shine, because she is not confident in her own ability to solve the problem.

01:24 <init3> Ph right.

01:24 <Muffin_Spectacles> It's still odd to hear Libman sayng in Fluttershy's voice, 'I never sent you a text!'

01:24 <ryaxnb21> (even though she ended up solving it, not twilight)

01:24 <init3> Pretty much, except we were bleeding.

01:24 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: So..."Fighting-is-Ma-gic!!"

01:25 <init3> Pretty much.

01:25 * Muffin_Spectacles sees everyone staring in silence.

01:25 <ryaxnb21> Muffin_Spectacles: best fluttershy line from those movies though is something pony shy could've said

01:25 <ryaxnb21> "i wouldn't know how to whoop anyone's butt"

01:25 <ryaxnb21> :P

01:25 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: Talk of posteriors seems to make people take notice.

01:26 <init3> There is a fic, which I can't really recommend and CERTAINLY can't link here that talks about the intimacy of someone you fight. Almost on par with a lover in a weird sense.  

01:26 <ryaxnb21> well, that and the thought of fluttershy trying to imagine herself as an action hero is adorable

01:26 <init3> It made a good argument for it.

01:26 <init3> And I agree in a way.

01:27 <Muffin_Spectacles> I have been wondering: has there been any Meghan McCarthy-written episode where Rainbow Dash wasn't a big jerk?

01:27 <init3> Holy crap I just remembered a fight I didn't remember I had 5 years ago.

01:27 <init3> I was pretty smashed.

01:27 <init3> Like, I didn't remember it until now.

01:28 <ryaxnb21> her bit role in Party of One

01:28 <init3> Memory recall is such a weird thing

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01:28 <ryaxnb21> and other episodes where she had even less of a role

01:28 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: Hmm..good call...though it seems when Dash has to be a major support player, McCarthy brings the jerk out. Like in the movies, and in S5's opener.

01:28 <ryaxnb21> like Canterlot Wedding

01:28 <ryaxnb21> she was pretty good in Crystal Empire.

01:28 <Muffin_Spectacles> Anyone played the'awesome' drinking game for the first movie?

01:29 <init3> Good lord no.

01:29 <init3> That is a terrible idea that I am going to try.

01:29 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: Seriously, RD says 'Awesome' at least 6 times!

01:29 <ryaxnb21> otoh she was not a jerk in that movie at all

01:29 <ryaxnb21> if anything she was the most well defined

01:29 <init3> I did try a mlp drinking game though.

01:29 <ryaxnb21> of the mane 5.

01:30 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: How about that starting a game, and then scoring the first goal.

01:30 <init3> Big problem with that one was "Take a drink if a unicorn uses magic". We were watching "Suited for Success"

01:30 <ryaxnb21> Muffin_Spectacles: she didn't care who won the game.

01:30 <ryaxnb21> it was solely a test, so it didn't really matter imo

01:30 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21:

01:31 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: Well, she was definitely more of a jerk in Rainbow Rocks.

01:31 <ryaxnb21> yep.

01:31 <init3> We didn't get past the second act. Pretty sure alcohol poisoning would have resulted if we finished it.

01:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: FIENDship is Magic #4—Interview with Writer Heather Nuhfer [ http://tinyurl.com/oa7mvsk ]

01:31 <init3> Bear in mind we were drinking 100 proof vodka.

01:31 <ryaxnb21> in s5's opener, dash wasn't a jerk and also mccarthy didn't write that.

01:31 <init3> I think the game was designed for beer.

01:33 <ryaxnb21> i mean, she was a jerk to starlight and the town, but they're cult members.

01:33 <ryaxnb21> some level of rudeness is expected.

01:33 <ryaxnb21> she was very polite to her friends.

01:33 <Cepheid> Oh sweet heavens.

01:33 <Cepheid> I went into the "sandbox" mode of Factorio.  I set the enemy generation settings as high as they could go.

01:33 <Cepheid> It's...  Oh gods.  It's bad.

01:34 <Cepheid> Outside of the starting area, the enemies are EVERYWHERE.

01:35 <ryaxnb21> also not that i expect everyone to be rude to cults

01:35 <ryaxnb21> but dash is totally in character for her to be rude to them.

01:35 <ryaxnb21> she hates bullcrap, and cults are the epitome of bullcrap

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01:36 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: Yeah, she hates bullcrap: except when she can't believe truth when she hears it (like in the latest ep)

01:36 <ryaxnb21> of course.

01:36 <Muffin_Spectacles> ryaxnb21: I actually took a little too much pleasure in her crying.

01:36 <ryaxnb21> that wasn't mccarthy either though

01:36 <ryaxnb21> and s5 opener wasn't; it was sonneborn and Larson

01:36 <Dulset> Hello everyone, I'm new here :)

01:37 <ryaxnb21> larson's Dashie is characterized by her being kinda dumb and disloyal in RoH

01:37 <ryaxnb21> but her other dashie episodes were great

01:37 <init3> ohai Dulset.

01:37 <init3> Everyone was being dumb in RoH.

01:37 <ryaxnb21> Sonic Rainboom, Cutie Mark Chronicles, Luna Eclipsed, etc.

01:37 <Dulset> I'm looking for a place to discuss pony episodes with people

01:37 <ryaxnb21> but dash was the only one to absolutely abandon the maze.

01:37 <ryaxnb21> hi Dulset

01:37 <init3> Dash was kind of a jerk in LE.

01:37 <Dulset> Hello :)

01:38 <ryaxnb21> she was a prankster.

01:38 <Muffin_Spectacles> I feel RoH is still the pinaacle of openers. S5 is a runner up.

01:38 <Dulset> ROH is the best, no question.

01:38 <ryaxnb21> that's in her character, and NMM/Halloween is the time for that sort of thing.

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01:38 <init3> Well you've actually stumbled into one of the fairly rare times we are actually discussing poni. This chat takes a lot of ... wait for it...

01:38 <init3> TWISTS AND TURNS

01:39 <init3> huehueuheuheuheuheuhe

01:39 <ryaxnb21> what the hell is that joke

01:39 <Dulset> That's why I'm hoping there's a place here for it

01:39 <Dulset> If not here, then where?

01:39 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: Twist...Twist!? You dare mention the anti-Celestia of the fandom!!?

01:39 <ryaxnb21> no this is a place for it

01:39 <ryaxnb21> it's just not always

01:39 <init3> ^

01:39 <ryaxnb21> but we talk episodes frequently

01:39 <ryaxnb21> especially after new ones come out

01:39 <init3> Sometimes people think I'm in the mafia.

01:39 <ryaxnb21> i don't really i joke about it

01:39 <Dulset> So there's not like a board for it though?

01:39 <init3> Totally incorrect though/

01:40 <ryaxnb21> just like i joke about you going to a drug deal with a pony backpack

01:40 <init3> Not a grain of truth

01:40 <ryaxnb21> it's light-hearted humor

01:40 <ryaxnb21> well, if it's drugs, in the USA, i kinda doubt it's the mafis

01:40 <ryaxnb21> well, if it's drugs, in the USA, i kinda doubt it's the mafia*

01:40 <ryaxnb21> but i unno

01:40 <init3> My tone isn't implicit in the text

01:40 <init3> I just mean

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01:40 <init3> Never mind. I think it's funny is all.

01:40 <Dulset> Can I please ask you all a question then?

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01:41 <init3> But if I were to not deny it it would spoil the fun.

01:41 <ryaxnb21> hehe

01:41 <ryaxnb21> Dulset: no

01:41 <Dulset> Why does everyone say that Tanks for the Memories is about death and loss?

01:41 <ryaxnb21> however, you can go to the pony forums at rounstable.com

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01:41 <Muffin_Spectacles> Dulset: i think some just want to make it a bigger thing than it is.

01:41 <ryaxnb21> they have a episode discussion forum for each episode

01:42 <ryaxnb21> i think the death and loss is an analogy

01:42 <Dulset> Ooh, I'll look over there later, thanks :)

01:42 <ryaxnb21> it's not actually about that, but the characters play it like it is sometimes.

01:42 <ryaxnb21> roundstable.com*

01:42 <ryaxnb21> i spelled it wrong.

01:42 <init3> Oh I totally think it is about death.

01:42 <Dulset> No, I know that it's not ACTUALLY death lol, but why do people think it's an analogy at all?

01:42 <ryaxnb21> because dashie plays it like it is.

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01:42 <init3> Read a psych book on bereavement.

01:42 <ryaxnb21> she's overly concerned about it, and she "Buries" the turtle at the end

01:43 <ryaxnb21> and she goes through grief like it's death

01:43 <init3> Exactly like it.

01:43 <Dulset> That's not relevant to the conflict though

01:43 <ryaxnb21> not exactly exactly

01:43 <ryaxnb21> her denial is more easily met because the tortoise is still alive

01:43 <ryaxnb21> and still semi-awake

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01:44 <init3> Well nobody completely goes through all the stages the same.

01:44 <ryaxnb21> i've seen a fic where pinkie is in denial that gummy is dead

01:44 <ryaxnb21> (because gummy behaves roughly the same dead or not)

01:44 <init3> Nor even all the stages necessarily.

01:44 <ryaxnb21> and even with such a pet it's creepieri

01:44 <ryaxnb21> :P

01:44 <init3> Ohmagawd

01:44 <Dulset> I mean, notice that Tank's health is a major factor in the conflict. Dash must accept the hibernation not just for herself, but for Tank's benefit as well.

01:44 <init3> My brother is a psych professor.

01:44 <init3> Next time I see him I am forcing him to watch it.

01:44 <Dulset> That's completely incompatible with a "death" metaphor

01:44 <Muffin_Spectacles> I could have seen them pulling an episode 3: with Dash being so concerned for Tank, that she in the end...killed...him...

01:45 <ryaxnb21> goddamnit i haven't seen episode 3.

01:45 <ryaxnb21> lol

01:45 <init3> Episode 3?

01:45 <ryaxnb21> of the show season 5.

01:45 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: REvenge of the Jedi.

01:45 <Dulset> But please think about this

01:45 <ryaxnb21> OH

01:45 <init3> Ooooh

01:46 <ryaxnb21> revenge of the sith*

01:46 <ryaxnb21> you should REALLY specify that

01:46 <ryaxnb21> episode 3 does not a title make

01:46 <Muffin_Spectacles> I guess Episode distinctions don't mean the same these days.

01:46 <ryaxnb21> no!

01:46 <ryaxnb21> they never did :(

01:46 <Dulset> I believe the episode ACTUALLY makes a very good allegory not for dealing with loss, but for coping with having a disabled friend.

01:46 <init3> Dulset: you need to understand that this can't be a 1:1 thing here. Doing a poni episide about actual death might be a little hard to green light.

01:47 <init3> Hmm... I can't see that.

01:47 <Dulset> That is irrelevant though.

01:47 <Dulset> thank you :)

01:47 <Dulset> Because

01:47 <ryaxnb21> also they cant use the jokes if its a very special ep

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01:47 <ryaxnb21> they could probably greenlight a very special ep

01:47 <ryaxnb21> but it would require a somber tone

01:47 <ryaxnb21> and would be boring to adults

01:47 <ryaxnb21> this way the episode is still hilarious.

01:47 <init3> Aye

01:48 <Dulset> Let's say you have a friend who you love to do extreme stuff with, but who recently was confined to a wheelchair.

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01:48 <init3> ok...

01:48 <Dulset> You might want to pretend nothing

01:48 <Dulset> whoops

01:48 * Muffin_Spectacles is away

01:48 <init3> The stages of grief may still apply there.

01:48 <init3> I'll give you that.

01:49 <Dulset> You might want to pretend nothing's changed, that you can still do everything you want to with them. But the fact is you have to learn to accept their condition, their limits, and respect that. It's healthy for them.

01:49 <init3> However, the over the top way dash acted kind of lends credence to the death thing.

01:49 <Dulset> I will grant that, sort of, but is that really any true indication?

01:50 <Dulset> Just because Dash acted nonsensically, that doesn't change that the nature of the conflict doesn't match how she reacted.

01:50 <init3> To me it is. And like ryaxnb21how she buried Tank... and don't forget the episode title.

01:51 <init3> The title of the episode is pretty telling imo.

01:51 <init3> You don't tell a disabled friend "Thanks for the memories"

01:51 <init3> You do, if they are dying

01:52 <Bubble-Berry> !link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudLjZ_4VhU

01:52 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

01:52 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Neutral Milk Hotel - Two-Headed Boy

01:52 <Dulset> ...I'm sorry but are you seriously using the title as a point...?

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01:53 <init3> Why not?

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01:55 <Dulset> I'm going to just ignore that if you don't mind

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01:55 <Bubble-Berry> Bleh

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01:59 <Dulset> This is strange

02:00 <Dulset> I signed up for roundstable, but the account activation email never came. I resent it and it still never came.

02:00 <Dulset> Not in my spam folder either

02:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: Which Pony Pet is the Best?  [ http://tinyurl.com/nhc5uym ]

02:04 <KooK> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8md68l5ebnk63gf/11161341_1582520218692400_8338236714930316305_n.jpg?dl=0

02:05 <KooK> hmmmmmmmmm, that was the wrong link.

02:07 <KooK> That was supposed to be of my cat chillin' on me, but, I guess that works too...

02:08 <init3> HAHA

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02:15 <KooK> harble harble harble HARBLE HARBLE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!

02:15 <KooK> So whats up

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02:18 <Cepheid> Well, harble harble harble, har, ble ble ble, har ble, ble har har ble harble harble haaaaaar, and bleeeee ble ble bleeee.

02:18 * Bubble-Berry rolls around

02:18 <Bubble-Berry> Ohmygod Death Grips are coming to Colorado

02:18 <Bubble-Berry> Unless they cancel. again.

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02:23 <KooK> I could miss every single question on my calculus final and still pass the class with a transferrable credit

02:23 <KooK> This pleases me

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02:27 <Cepheid> Except your class syllabus probably states you're required to pass the exam in order to pass the course.

02:27 <Cepheid> Otherwise even if you have a passing grade, if you fail the exam, you fail the course.

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02:29 <KooK> It does not

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02:30 <KooK> Because 90% of the class fails his exams and most people still pass the class

02:30 <KooK> This last test that I got back was the first test out of 3 that I got a passing grade on all semester.

02:31 * Snapai streamin' 3D arts - http://www.weanimatethings.com/stream/ (chat hosted on canternet)

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02:31 <KooK> Which is nice because most people don't pass a single one

02:32 * Cepheid shrugs. "Were it me, I'd make it a mandatory thing that the exams and assignments be passed satisfactorily."

02:34 <Dulset> I thought season 4 was absolutely terrible.

02:34 <KooK> If it were you, would you make 1/3rd of the test questions over chapters we cover 2 weeks after the test?

02:34 <KooK> Because if not, then I guess you're not my teacher.

02:35 <Cepheid> That's a different problem altogether.

02:35 <KooK> He ends up making the exams mostly impossible to pass with a respectable grade to try to get you to think 'above the problem.'

02:35 <Cepheid> Usually one that should be mentioned to the program coordinator or dean of the institution.

02:36 <Cepheid> Not that most will listen, based on my observations.

02:36 <KooK> and yet he's been teaching here for 15 years anyway

02:36 <Dulset> does anyoe want to discuss ponie

02:36 <ryaxnb21> Dulset: the title is always the point

02:36 <KooK> Ponies are weird and bronies are gross

02:36 <ryaxnb21> like MMC title tells you that it's a musical

02:36 <ryaxnb21> filli vanilli title gives away the plot

02:36 <ryaxnb21> Pinkie Apple Pie gives away the plot

02:37 <ryaxnb21> etc etc

02:37 <ryaxnb21> so of course the title is evidence for/against a plot interpetation

02:37 <KooK> Racist Barn leaves things open for question

02:37 <Dulset> Except no, none of that

02:37 <ryaxnb21> that's not actually a title.

02:37 <KooK> totally is

02:37 <ryaxnb21> no, i mean raise this barn isn't either

02:38 <ryaxnb21> it's a song title, but the episode is called something else.

02:38 <Dulset> according to that logic, the title of Pinkie Apple Pie is evidence that Pinkie is in fact a member of the Apple family

02:38 <ryaxnb21> she may be.

02:38 <ryaxnb21> the title indicates that she MIGHT be

02:38 <Dulset> No, it indicates that she is

02:38 <ryaxnb21> the thing is, the title often refers to what theme they're going with

02:38 <Dulset> You're making ad hoc excuses

02:39 <ryaxnb21> rarely does it refer to some completely other random theme they are NOT going with

02:39 <ryaxnb21> that would be really dumb

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02:39 <ryaxnb21> even if pinkie's not related to the apples the theme is still all about her being related

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02:39 <ryaxnb21> so the title still matches the theme completely

02:39 <Dulset> You mean the possibility of her being related

02:39 <ryaxnb21> yeah

02:39 <Dulset> So no

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02:40 <ryaxnb21> the ending has them decide to treat her like she is though

02:40 <ryaxnb21> like they treat all tehir close friends admittedly

02:40 <ryaxnb21> but AJ is just that kinda pony

02:40 <Dulset> You're making that up

02:40 <Dulset> That doesn't happen

02:40 <ryaxnb21> um, watch the ending.

02:40 <KooK> "Fluttershy gets mugged in Manehatten" is kind of a giveaway as well

02:40 <ryaxnb21> it's a cornball ending where she says that it doesn't matter if she's family and that they can't be sure

02:41 <Dulset> Exactly

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02:41 <Dulset> which contradicts what you just said

02:41 <ryaxnb21> right, and AJ treats friends like extended family (e.g. S2E15)

02:41 <Nicktendonick> What episode is Fluttershy getting mugged in?

02:41 <Nicktendonick> Eh?

02:41 <ryaxnb21> so it doesn't matter.

02:41 <Dulset> So you're incorrect then

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02:41 <Dulset> thank you for demonstrating that

02:41 <ryaxnb21> no, they bring this up in that very episode

02:41 <KooK> Nicktendonick: Sorry, spoiler alert

02:41 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

02:41 <ryaxnb21> that Pinkie, although possibly not related, will be treated like family.

02:42 <ryaxnb21> which is my whole point

02:42 <ryaxnb21> the ending, the episode, and the title sync in theme

02:42 <ryaxnb21> goddamn the eqg remix

02:42 <ryaxnb21> i dislike this remix.

02:43 <Dulset> Your logic is full of holes dude

02:43 <ryaxnb21> okay

02:43 <ryaxnb21> well so is yours because the episode is not about that

02:43 <ryaxnb21> :(

02:43 <KooK> YOUR HOLES ARE FULL OF LOGIC

02:44 <ryaxnb21> for a variety of reasons other than just the title, which IS a reason

02:44 <ryaxnb21> but is not the only one.

02:44 <KooK> That didn't sound right...

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02:44 <ryaxnb21> also KooK is kind of a troll when he's not actively doing things

02:44 <ryaxnb21> get used to that

02:45 <KooK> Whaaaaaaaaaat

02:45 <ryaxnb21> it' true

02:45 * Thelema5 pies ryaxnb21

02:45 <KooK> I'm flabbergasted

02:45 <Dulset> Okay, give me an actual reason why Tanks is about loss, one that comes from the episode's actual circumstances.

02:46 <ryaxnb21> the burial scene.

02:46 <ryaxnb21> it's an analogy.

02:46 <Dulset> Go on

02:46 <ryaxnb21> tank is capable of digging his own hole, as you can see when he does it earlier on but is caught by dash

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02:46 <ryaxnb21> the burial scene is an analogy for burying the dead.

02:46 <ryaxnb21> which is part of acceptance

02:46 <ryaxnb21> letting their spirits rest.

02:47 <Thelema5> Dulset, you realize the whole plot was written around the 5 stages of grief, right?

02:47 <Vulpor> Hey everyone

02:47 <ryaxnb21> and that the last stage, the burial scene mirrors the acceptance of a dead person by burying them to put their spirits at ease

02:47 <ryaxnb21> according to many classical religions

02:47 <ryaxnb21> up to and including Christianity

02:47 <ryaxnb21> (but also just about any classical religion)

02:47 <Dulset> The burying is how hibernation works.

02:48 <ryaxnb21> but IRL and in the show animals can bury themselves

02:48 <ryaxnb21> they don't need a pony to do it for them with a shovel.

02:48 <ryaxnb21> that's symbolic.

02:48 <Dulset> And yes, I am aware of the five stages

02:48 <ryaxnb21> since if tank WAS dead obviously he couldn't bury himself.

02:48 <Thelema5> Grief is defined as "deep sorrow, especially that caused by someone's death"... so the theme underlies the entire episode.

02:49 <Dulset> Thaaat's wrong

02:49 <ryaxnb21> i really find it funny that celestia asks about sunset shimmer and if she's okay in EqG world

02:49 <Vulpor> So, I am watching Boogiepop Phantom

02:49 <ryaxnb21> but not like, whether she's said she's sorry, or whether she's going to come back, or whether she's found any form of happiness

02:50 <ryaxnb21> A++ job caring about sunset celestia

02:50 <ryaxnb21> :)

02:50 <Thelema5> Dulset, it's not wrong; go look it up.

02:51 <Dulset> You could just as easily say that the word "stage" implies videogames, and so the five stages of grief demonstrate a theme of videogames throughout the episode.

02:51 <ryaxnb21> welp this argument is dumb

02:51 <ryaxnb21> leaving now

02:51 <Thelema5> Dulset: http://goo.gl/vV9gkc

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02:52 <Dulset> As I mentioned before, the fact that Tank's health is an important part of the conflict pretty much conclusively disproves the death analogy.

02:52 <Thelema5> You're certainly entitled the have whatever headcanon you like.

02:53 <Dulset> It's an episode about friendship, isn't it?

02:53 <Dulset> It's about Dash's relationship with Tank, and her coming to let him hibernate

02:53 <Thelema5> I'm sorry to say that the show's writer disagrees: https://twitter.com/orangemeerkat/status/592035419245514752

02:54 <Dulset> all of that contradicts how the episode would be if it were just about Dash coping wth Tank's hibernation

02:54 <KooK> Thelema5, I was called a troll :-/

02:54 <Thelema5> I wouldn't worry about it.

02:54 <Dulset> wasn't me

02:54 <Dulset> I would argue the message was actually about coping with having a disabled friend

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02:56 <TimidClef> I didn't get that at all, personally. I saw the central theme as Dash learning to deal with, and accept, the loss (albeit temporary) of her friend. So in that way yes—it was about friendship, but specifically the (temporary, in this instance) cessation of that relationship.

02:56 <Thelema5> Oh hi, TimidClef!

02:57 <Vulpor> I think the episode is more about coming to terms with a friend moving away

02:58 <Vulpor> Remembering them and not being upset that they are gone

02:58 <TimidClef> Well, at the root of both those (death and moving away) is loss. When you're dealing with a friend moving away, you're dealing with losing them from your life.

02:58 <Vulpor> But that's just me

02:58 <Vulpor> Oh yeah it is about loss I just do not like to think of Tank dead

02:58 <Thelema5> Yes, the inevitablity of loss was the central theme.

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02:59 <Dulset> The events of the episode, and the conflict, can't support that theory

03:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #335 [ http://tinyurl.com/oa4tdo6 ]

03:01 <Thelema5> Seems to support it very well, but I'll not try to convince you.  May believe any old thing you like. :p

03:01 <Vulpor> Eh, I think the episode has multiple intereptations

03:01 <Dulset> Note that the central problem is that Dash can keep Tank awake indefinitely, and never has to let him hibernate. It's purely for Tank's health that it's important for Dash to accept his hibernation, and Dash needs to respect his needs. This goes absolutely against the "death and loss" theory.

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03:03 <Vulpor> Ok Dulset your point is valid

03:03 <TimidClef> Throughout the episode you see that she CAN'T, Dulset. That's sort of the point. Every time she tries, he falls asleep, no matter her best efforts. The episode makes it relatively clear that she's fighting a battle she can't win.

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03:03 <Dulset> But she CAN delay it. An episode about death and loss would have it be a done deal, this is something that she can prevent.

03:04 <Thelema5> No, she can't.  The absurdity of her efforts reinforce that.

03:04 <Dulset> he tries to hibernate the whole episode

03:04 <Dulset> he only can when Dash lets him

03:04 <Dulset> qed

03:04 <TimidClef> Prevent =/= delay. And no, 'loss' does not have to be a done deal. You can take efforts to delay loss.

03:04 * Vulpor noms popcorn watching the debate

03:04 <Dulset> And again, the most important part is that she has to accept it for Tank's sake, not her own.

03:05 <Dulset> There's no interpretation of the death/loss theory that accounts for that

03:05 <Thelema5> I think the point is that she has to accept it as a fact of nature.

03:05 <Dulset> FOR TANK, not for herself

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03:06 <Dulset> Sorry about caps, I don't know how to format here :P

03:06 <Thelema5> Dulset, you've heard about 10 interpretations, and you're obviously not interested in actually thinking about the matter any further.  I'll not waste another moment on the subject.

03:06 <TimidClef> Um. I wholly disagree with her not having to accept it for her own sake.

03:06 * Vulpor begins swaying to music

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03:07 <TimidClef> Yeah, I'm just going to say I disagree with you; the tweet from the show's writer seems to indicate that they were dealing with a deep and larger issue, as well. But whatevs

03:07 <Dulset> Go ahead then, give one explanation of the death/loss interpretation that makes any sense when you consider Tank's actual place in the conflict as an active living creature whose needs drive the story entirely

03:07 <Dulset> I agree there's a larger issue, I mentioned that yes

03:07 <TimidClef> We have, actually, but you move the goalposts, thus why we've said we're done discussing it

03:08 <Dulset> Awful convenient to say "I told you but I'm not going to again"

03:08 <Dulset> convincing

03:08 <Vulpor> Dulset

03:08 <Vulpor> Please just let it go

03:09 <Vulpor> Its a good episode we all enjoy it the end

03:09 <Dulset> ...It was alright

03:09 <Dulset> I thought the ending was pretty awful but the beginning was great so 5/10

03:09 <Vulpor> I can tell you all are getting a bit hot under the collor

03:10 <Vulpor> Lets just aggree to disaggree

03:10 <Vulpor> I once argued for three hours over who shot first in a star wars chat

03:10 <TimidClef> I'm not hot at all (despite being in Arizona). I said I've dropped it and I have, and ignored attempts to bait me back into the conversation despite making it clear I was done with it :)

03:10 <Dulset> pfff lol

03:11 <Dulset> Don't worry, I'll find a place to discuss things

03:11 <Vulpor> you can discuss things here but when no new ground can be covered its time to move on

03:12 <Vulpor> I gotta better question as it relates to this episode

03:12 <Dulset> oh?

03:12 <Vulpor> So, Dashie has had ths pet for awle now

03:12 <Vulpor> Past the Winter Wrap Up episode yes?

03:12 <Dulset> and this is their "first Winter together"

03:12 <Vulpor> right

03:13 <Nicktendonick> Yea, so S2- S5 was a single year?

03:13 <Vulpor> now unless we hit a time warp

03:13 <Dulset> well we know S1-S4 was a single year, don't we?

03:13 <Dulset> (IGNORE HEARTH'S WARMING EVE)

03:13 <Vulpor> you cant even say "it takes place sometime before winter wrap up" cause Twilight gots wings

03:14 <Dulset> ...dude

03:14 <Dulset> Winter Wrap Up was season INE

03:14 <Dulset> Winter Wrap Up was season ONE

03:14 <Vulpor> i even have a better solution to all this

03:14 <Vulpor> RainbowDash writes letters

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03:14 <Vulpor> to Tank

03:14 <Vulpor> all winter long

03:15 <TimidClef> Well, if you want the real answer, it's not very satisfying, heh

03:15 <Vulpor> with pictures and all that

03:15 <Nicktendonick> (I kinda wish it was "RD's freaking out about Tank again?! She does this every year!" Granted, they'd never, but that would be pretty funny)

03:15 <TimidClef> It's a kids' show and the writers aren't super concerned with establishing a linear continuity

03:15 <Vulpor> so he doesint miss anything

03:16 <Nicktendonick> Clef: That's pretty much the solution we're come to accept. "It's just a show."

03:16 <Dulset> Wait, what's the problem though?

03:16 <Nicktendonick> And to quote: Move along, nothint to see here

03:16 <Vulpor> Even moreso Fluttershy knows animals right?

03:16 * Nicktendonick finally getting around to watching Twilight Time.

03:16 <Vulpor> Wouldint Rainbow have learned something about animal care from her best friend

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03:17 <Vulpor> Heck the one who helped her PICK THE PET?!

03:17 * Nicktendonick jumps on Twicorn and rides off! (not really, more like one of those rocket rides outside a grocery store, but that's a minor detail)

03:17 <Dulset> Vulpor

03:17 <Dulset> You know that Winter Wrap Up came before she got Tank, right/

03:17 <Vulpor> It's all bullocks!

03:17 <Dulset> wut

03:17 <Vulpor> this whole show is dumb

03:17 <TimidClef> The bigger question for me is that means that the events of 3/4s of season 2, all of season 3, and all of season 4 occurred in a year, heh

03:17 <Vulpor> lol

03:18 <Vulpor> joking

03:18 <Vulpor> honestly I aggree with TimidClef

03:18 <Dulset> We already know that all of seasons 1 2 and 3 were 1 year

03:18 <Vulpor> its a kids show and only certain things matter

03:18 <Dulset> what's the problem

03:19 <TimidClef> It's an assumption that Equestria's year is roughly the same length as ours, but if that's true then that's a whole lot of near-apocalyptic scenarios occurring in an incredibly brief span.

03:19 <Dulset> I mean, other than the fact that Twilight became a princess in less than one year

03:19 <Vulpor> Equestria is like Game of Thrones

03:19 <TimidClef> It would almost be equivalent to, say, having both World Wars, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and the Iraqi War all occurring in one years' time

03:19 <Vulpor> Seasons last for years

03:19 <Vulpor> lol

03:20 <Dulset> Why do you say it would be like that?

03:21 <Dulset> Also, I have a question I've been wondering about for a few years now

03:21 <Dulset> Why do they make Winter in the first place...?

03:21 <TimidClef> They dealt with several potentially-world-ending catastrophes in that same time span?

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03:25 <Dulset> Winter is not something that civilizations want to happen...

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03:27 <TimidClef> Depending on the ecology, it's a biological necessity. Equatorial and tropical environments have different plant- and animal-life adapted to the fact that there's never any period where growth slows and ceases

03:27 <Dulset> And yet, the ponies have to artifically make Winter

03:27 <Thelema5> How would a year even be measured in Equestia?  On earth it's measured by our position relative to the sun; but the equestrian sun moves at Celestia's whim.

03:27 <Nicktendonick> Didn't they say in Tanks for the memories that some places didn't like winter and didn't do them?

03:27 <Dulset> Lol good point, even the seasons are arbitrary

03:28 <Nicktendonick> I remember a one off line when someone was pressuring RD "what'd you do with the clouds"

03:28 <Dulset> "How long is Spring supposed to be? Who cares, let's keep it around a little longer."

03:28 <TimidClef> That's actually how I usually view it, from a headcanon perspective

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03:29 <TimidClef> I also sort of see it not so much as they "have" to make winter. I think the seasons would probably change on their own. They've simply just taken control of the weather to such a point where they make it happen when they want it to happen, rather than when it naturally would occur

03:29 <Thelema5> Snow actually functions as water containment; most of the water reaching southern CA and Nevada in the summer is snow-melt from the Sierra Nevada Mountains.

03:30 <Dulset> Timid, that...

03:30 <Dulset> I dont' even understand what you're suggesting.

03:30 <Thelema5> :/

03:30 <TimidClef> Let's say that tomorrow, in the real world, we developed the ability to wholly control the weather.

03:30 <Dulset> ok

03:31 <TimidClef> We've always had seasons. They naturally occur. But if we could wholly control the weather, they could happen, or not happen, as we choose. And then if we STOPPED controlling the weather, things would go back to the way they were

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03:31 <Dulset> go on

03:32 <TimidClef> I think it's the same way in Equestria. Before the tribes organized, the region probably had normal weather patterns

03:32 <Dulset> ...

03:32 <Dulset> that's it?

03:32 <Thelema5> Isn't that enough?

03:33 <Dulset> You're saying that...

03:33 <Dulset> they can control the weather, but they choose to make it exactly what it would be naturally

03:33 <TimidClef> No

03:33 <Dulset> ok

03:33 <TimidClef> If they wanted to, they could have it be eternal winter. Or eternal summer. Because the pegasi have complete control of the weather

03:34 <TimidClef> IF the pegasi just stopped exerting control over it

03:34 <TimidClef> the weather patterns would revert back to their natural progression of winter, spring, summer, fall

03:35 <Thelema5> I think TimidClef is suggesting that the seasons are a natural phenomenon, and the pegasi have learned to shape the parameters of the phenomenon to be more predictable and suited to pony temperment.

03:35 <Dulset> What for?

03:35 * Princess-QRS EXPLODES into the chat

03:35 * Princess-QRS violently

03:35 <Dulset> (and thank you, that was the missing piece)

03:35 <TimidClef> Convenience

03:35 <Seoson> Hello everypony ;-)

03:35 <Dulset> They make Winter for convenience?

03:36 <Dulset> hello :)

03:36 <Princess-QRS> for fun!

03:36 <Thelema5> If the seasons were a natural phenomenon, the other animals and plants would have evolved to depend on those cycles; if the ponies were to simply STOP winter from happening, it would likely have negative impacts in the ecosystem.

03:36 <TimidClef> They make winter occur /when it occurs/ for convenience

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03:36 <TimidClef> They still have winter occur because it's a necessary part of the ecological cycle of their environment

03:36 <Dulset> But they make it occur at exactly the same time, right?

03:37 <TimidClef> Not necessarily

03:37 <Thelema5> We don't know.

03:37 <Seoson> We do

03:37 <Dulset> that's your argument

03:37 <Seoson> Winter wrap up had a specific date

03:37 <Seoson> So it would only by logical if winter start had as well

03:38 <TimidClef> No. I already said IF they wanted they could make it be eternal winter. They COULD, if they so chose, do one seasons' worth of winter, followed by four seasons worth of spring, and then right back to winter again

03:38 * Princess-QRS flops on TimidClef

03:38 <Princess-QRS> ya'll

03:38 <Princess-QRS> I wanna make a statement here

03:38 <ryaxnb21> alright watching s05e4, Princess-QRS and tohers

03:38 <Princess-QRS> dis pone, is a good pone

03:38 <Nicktendonick> Oh my, this is funny. I was watching Twilight Time, and I paused it on a perfect picture. It's when the CMC are brining DT and SS into Twilight's home. There's this one frame of the two that I paused it on that's really funny. Silver Spoon's mouth looks like it has the hillbilly tooth hanging out with her mouth open like a silly pony, while Diamond Tiara's is even worse. Her eyes are half closed, her mouth has that "idiot open m

03:38 <Nicktendonick> oouth" and her hoof looks like she's walking backwards. One of those perfect moments to have screenshotted and Meme'd

03:38 <Thelema5> I second that, Princess-QRS!

03:38 <Princess-QRS> so screenshot it

03:38 * Princess-QRS pulls Thelema5 over

03:38 <Princess-QRS> dis pone also goodpone

03:38 <Dulset> Timid, how is that relevant to what you're saying?

03:38 <Nicktendonick> It's on my TV (DVR) not computer

03:39 <Thelema5> Not as good of a pone as the one who just pulled me over!

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03:40 <ryaxnb21> god scootaloo is a jerk this episode

03:40 * Seoson looks at the time and is shocked by how late it is.

03:40 <ryaxnb21> and they finally address the Apple-Related naming theme

03:41 <TimidClef> I'll try again: Left to its own devices, Equestria has natural seasonal patterns that are the same as ours. The pegasi can control the weather so that it does what they want, when they want it to do it. IF they chose to, they could just not have winter at all. Or they could have an entire years' worth of winter.

03:41 <ryaxnb21> Everypony in the apple family has an apple cutie mark, an apple etc

03:41 <Dulset> And what's your point?

03:41 <Dulset> Timid, I agree with what you're saying

03:41 <Seoson> I think they are still limited by Celestias position of the sun

03:41 <Dulset> but I don't see the relevance

03:42 <ryaxnb21> Applebloom sounds older

03:42 <ryaxnb21> aww a night lullaby

03:42 <ryaxnb21> i swear anything in AJ's voice sounds good

03:42 <ryaxnb21> ashleigh is a good singer and lullabier

03:43 <ryaxnb21> stupid dream sequence, how long does this go on btw.

03:43 <Dulset> it never ends

03:44 <TimidClef> All of this was in response to your previous statements that civilizations don't want winter and that the ponies have to artificially create it.  I responded that that isn't necessarily true; winter is an ecological necessity in most climates. It's not like, if the pegasi decided not to make winter that it would never happen again. Assuming that they stopped

03:44 <TimidClef> manipulating the weather, eventually the seasons would go back into their normal, uncontrolled patterns, and winter WOULD occur

03:44 <ryaxnb21> lol infestations

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03:44 <Dulset> and... what's your point?

03:44 <Princess-QRS> what's yours

03:44 <Princess-QRS> o3o

03:44 <Dulset> I feel so lost

03:45 <ryaxnb21> this dream seems way too realistic for a fream

03:45 <ryaxnb21> dream* other than the nuttiness in the concept

03:46 <ryaxnb21> also diamond tiara invades your dreams for reasons

03:46 <ryaxnb21> what is DT's cutie mark in anyway

03:46 <Princess-QRS> being a jerk

03:46 <ryaxnb21> being spoiled

03:46 <Princess-QRS> well suited for government work

03:46 <Dulset> her tiara grows naturally from her head. That's her talent.

03:47 <Dulset> Silver Spoon makes more sense

03:47 <ryaxnb21> that doesn't make her cutie mark any better

03:47 <ryaxnb21> her cutie mark is in being stuck up

03:48 <Thelema5> This appearance is NOT actually DT; it's Apple Bloom's interpretation of her.

03:48 <ryaxnb21> well duh, it's a dream, nonetheless DT has never addressed what her cutie mark is

03:48 <ryaxnb21> and she's teased AB about cutie marks before

03:49 <Dulset> I don't see why Bloom didn't throw the zap bugs at her

03:49 <Thelema5> I maintain that Diamond Tiara is going to come around this season, and that a great deal of our impression of her character is the result of omissive editing.

03:49 <Dulset> lol

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03:50 <ryaxnb21> um, AJ (ab's version of AJ), to get your cutie mark, you have to do the thing you get to be good at

03:50 <ryaxnb21> luckily it's in a dream so not OOC

03:50 <ryaxnb21> since AB is terrible at understanding cutie marks

03:51 <Dulset> luckily that's actually the lesson

03:51 <Dulset> "AB doesn't understand cutie marks"

03:51 <ryaxnb21> lemme guess this is also a nightmare, and i really want luna to show up and be like "hahah i was just yanking ur chain"

03:51 <ryaxnb21> "with these chained nightmares"

03:51 <ryaxnb21> trololol

03:53 <ryaxnb21> i mean i know that's what she's doing but it would be nice for her to admit it.

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03:59 <Dulset> So hey do you people have OCs?

03:59 <Corset_Rosewhip> yeah

03:59 <Tirek> Today I remembered my first GURPS game I played.

03:59 <Corset_Rosewhip> I have a lot of roleplaying characters. :P

03:59 <Dulset> me too :)

03:59 <Corset_Rosewhip> cool

03:59 <Tirek> I had the potential of being one of the worst player characters there.

04:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comixology Running 50% Off Sale on Pony Comics [ http://tinyurl.com/mufgss3 ]

04:01 <Tirek> I took some disadvantages first, the one I remember most notably was that the character was a technophobe(TL8+) and a mute.

04:01 <Tirek> Then I made him a wizard of some sort, giving him some sound magic as well as illusionary magic.

04:01 <Tirek> With some other basic spells.

04:02 <Tirek> Eventually, in that game, he ended up in a situation where he was trying to get into an escape pod after an asteroid rocked the space station he was assigned to.

04:02 <Dulset> http://imgur.com/tXPS5oF Her name is Dulset Tarn :)

04:02 <Tirek> No gravity, no oxygen, the poor man did the only thing he could think of.

04:02 <Tirek> He danced.

04:02 <Tirek> I failed his dance roll.

04:03 <Tirek> So he hit his head off the escape pod, was knocked unconscious, and drifted out into space.

04:03 <Tirek> The end.

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04:04 <Corset_Rosewhip> Cool beans and nice name.

04:04 <Dulset> You see... ;)

04:04 <Dulset> Dulse is a kind of seaweed, and a tarn is a kind of lake

04:04 <Dulset> and it sounds like dulcet tone for her songs

04:04 <Thelema5> Twas a shooting star who's brilliance briefly lit the sky and inspired the wishes of lovers, Tirek

04:05 <Tirek> I remember how my character was introduced into that campaign, too.

04:05 <Tirek> He was hiding in a box in the cafeteria because he was terrified of the automatic doors.

04:05 <Corset_Rosewhip> Oooh. That's really cool. I love names that come with symbolism beyond just the obvious /relate loosely to talent/ and what not.

04:06 <Dulset> I worked for two weeks on it :D

04:06 <Dulset> the name

04:06 <Dulset> If it wasn't obvious, she's a kelpie

04:06 <Corset_Rosewhip> I think you did great on that and yeah I kind of figured after what you said.

04:06 <Tirek> Kelpies are evil man eating fairies.

04:06 <Dulset> She eats ponies

04:07 <Corset_Rosewhip> They are? O.O

04:07 <Tirek> Yes.

04:07 <Tirek> They appear in Gaelic folklore.

04:07 <Schism> Make no mistake: all the Gaelic fae are not what you'd call 'nice'.

04:07 <Tirek> They're evil shapeshifting creatures that usually take the form of a white horse.

04:07 <Dulset> Ride on my back~

04:07 <Corset_Rosewhip> huh.. I thought keplie just meant kelp person. I didn't know it was a thing

04:07 <Dulset> they beckon you to ride them, and then become adhesive

04:07 <Tirek> Their fur is like glue.

04:07 <Dulset> then they dive into a lake

04:08 <Corset_Rosewhip> :s sounds odd now that you say it like that. Interesting but creepy.

04:08 <Schism> If you're 'lucky', you find yourself with a Seelie fae.

04:08 <Dulset> What about a Nøkken?

04:08 * Corset_Rosewhip is gonna go read another channel for a while.

04:09 <Tirek> Seelies are fine, but I wouldn't be the kind of guy to hide their skin.

04:09 <Tirek> But kelpies are pure evil.

04:09 <Corset_Rosewhip> do you mean Selkies?

04:09 <Corset_Rosewhip> sealkies

04:09 <Corset_Rosewhip> ..

04:09 <Corset_Rosewhip> wurds

04:09 <Corset_Rosewhip> seal person

04:09 <Tirek> Yeah.

04:10 <Corset_Rosewhip> I actually know what that one is.

04:10 <Dulset> My silly headcanon is that kelpies and seaponies are mortal enemies, and that seaponies are even more evil than kelpies.

04:10 <Tirek> Nah.

04:10 <Tirek> Seaponies are nice.

04:10 <Dulset> but seaponies have a good reputation

04:10 <Scherza> Selkies? Who mentioned FF:CC?

04:10 <Dulset> it's LIES, only the kelpies know the truth about the seaponies!

04:10 <Tirek> They're oppressed by Squirk, really.

04:11 <Tirek> Squirk will be showing up in FiM probably.

04:11 <Tirek> Tirek did.

04:11 <Thelema5> Grogar is next, perhaps.

04:11 <Tirek> I'm notsure.

04:11 <Dulset> Smooze

04:11 <Thelema5> Maybe.

04:11 <Tirek> Yeah, probably.

04:12 <Thelema5> They'd better bring the song back if they do.

04:12 <Schism> Catrina, mayhaps?

04:12 <Tirek> I dunno about that.

04:12 <Corset_Rosewhip> Kelpies == Changelings as Ponies == Seaponies Equestria == PonyAtlantis ?

04:12 <Corset_Rosewhip> 6_9

04:12 <Thelema5> I'd love to hear Daniel Ingram's take on the Smooze song.

04:12 <Tirek> Nah, Kelpies and Changelings are different.

04:12 <Corset_Rosewhip> ....

04:12 <Tirek> I think Changelings are also Gaelic?

04:13 * Corset_Rosewhip doesn't think Tirek understood.

04:13 <Tirek> No, I probably didn't

04:13 <Tirek> Seaponies are a G1 thing.

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04:13 <Tirek> They existed along side regular ponies in G1.

04:14 <Dulset> My kelpie was a siren for years, singing hypnotic songs

04:14 <Dulset> but then

04:14 <Seoson> I'm sure they will bring up seaponies at some point

04:14 <Tirek> Probably

04:14 <Dulset> the comics, they stole my idea! ;_;

04:14 <Tirek> If they keep revamping G1 villains (like I know they will)

04:14 <Tirek> Squirk will come up eventually.

04:15 <Tirek> And Sea Ponies will probably be reintroduced along side Squirk.

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04:16 <Dulset> So what did you guys think of season 4?

04:16 <Dulset> or this premiere?

04:16 <Dulset> I want to talk ponies

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04:17 <ryaxnb21> why you so into talking ponies

04:17 <Tirek> Season 4 is a step in the right direction after S3.

04:17 <Dulset> because I don't get to do it much :(

04:17 <Tirek> But I didn't like it all that much.

04:17 <ryaxnb21> okay

04:17 <Dulset> I thought it was a lot worse than season 3

04:17 <Tirek> Ever since S3, a lot of episodes didn't feel right to me.

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04:17 <Dulset> gimmicky?

04:17 <Tirek> There's something I can't quite place my finger on that's been missing.

04:18 <Dulset> (effort)

04:18 <ryaxnb21> alright... that was literally the coolest thing i've ever seen

04:18 <Dulset> ;P

04:18 <Tirek> No.

04:18 <ryaxnb21> "we're still asleep? cool! *scootaloo flies*"

04:18 <Tirek> There's clear effort put into the episodes still.

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04:18 <ryaxnb21> Dulset: i liked s4 a lot

04:18 <ryaxnb21> but i felt the best episodes of the show for the most part are in s3 and s2

04:18 <ryaxnb21> and also the s5 premiere

04:18 <ryaxnb21> however, s4 has a very consistent level of quality and a few really good episodes

04:19 <ryaxnb21> whereas s2 and s3 (and early s1) was more uneven

04:19 <Thelema5> I feel like season 4 has been the best, even though it contains 2 of my least favorite episodes.

04:19 <Dulset> I found season 4 consistently worse than all others

04:19 <Thelema5> Power Ponies and Breezies are both abominations, in my estimation.

04:19 <Dulset> like zero great episodes

04:19 <ryaxnb21> i didnt

04:20 <ryaxnb21> i always like to go back to filli vanilli, twilight time

04:20 <ryaxnb21> and a few other episodes

04:20 <ryaxnb21> simple ways

04:20 <Tirek> Pinkie Pride was pretty damned acceptable in my book, because that was the first time in a while that Pinkie felt right.

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04:20 <ryaxnb21> and i like that and pinkie apple pie as well

04:20 <ryaxnb21> though i don't think it was a "long while " -- pinkie was fantastic in Too Many Pinkie Pies.

04:21 <Thelema5> Pinkie Pride and Pinkie Apple Pie were both great episodes.

04:21 <Tirek> I didn't say "long while".

04:21 <Tirek> Quit putting words into my mouth, as delicious as they are, I have a figure to watch.

04:21 <Dulset> Power Ponies Breezies Daring Don't Princess Twilight Filli Vanilli Simple Ways Equestria Games Leap of Faith Pinkie Apple Pie Watch Over Me were all awful in my opinion

04:21 <Thelema5> Season 4 propelled Pinkie from least favorite pone, to top three pone for me.

04:21 <Thelema5> So far, season 5 is helping her become a contender for top two.

04:22 <Princess-QRS> Princess Twilight so good

04:22 <Dulset> Too Many Pinkie Pies was actually the very first bad episode in the whole series in my opinion

04:22 <Thelema5> Dulset... are you trolling?

04:22 <Dulset> But she'd never been as absolutely horrible as she was in Pinkie Pride, which was a pretty good episode otherwise.

04:22 <ryaxnb21> Thelema5: he might be!

04:23 <ryaxnb21> :(

04:23 <ryaxnb21> or he might just have the world's worst opinion

04:23 <Tirek> Hm.

04:23 <ryaxnb21> that's the most aggravating thing about that type of trolling

04:23 <Scherza> My worst is Games Ponies Play.

04:23 <Thelema5> :p

04:23 <ryaxnb21> i was okay with that ep and condered it average

04:23 <Tirek> Can you explain why, to avoid ryaxnb's conclusion jumping.

04:23 <Dulset> Why which exactly?

04:23 <Tirek> Pick one of those prior mentioned episodes and explain what you didn't like.

04:24 <Tirek> I'm just curious.

04:24 <Dulset> Hmm

04:24 <Scherza> Well, the entire Equestria Games arc, really.

04:24 * Seoson sings "hush now quiet now it's time to go to bed ..."

04:24 <Thelema5> Well, Too Many Pinkie Pies is pretty much universally loved.

04:24 <Tirek> I'd like to hear why you didn't like Pinkie Pride, specifically, since its one of my favorites.

04:24 <ryaxnb21> i once did a long essay on how it got cloning right where many cartoons, specifically pixel pinkie , get it wrong

04:25 <Thelema5> Pinkie Pride is certainly in my top 10.

04:25 <Dulset> Simply put, Pinkie Pride completely reversed every single character trait that makes Pinkie who she is, turning her into a Bizarro Pinkie, a spiteful, vindictive monster.

04:25 <Tirek> Hm.

04:25 <ryaxnb21> except it doesn't

04:25 <ryaxnb21> and i think you're wrong :(

04:26 <Tirek> Hush ryaxnb.

04:26 <Dulset> you saw her face

04:26 <ryaxnb21> but his explanation just raise more questions :(

04:26 <Tirek> Right, no, I can see why dulset thinks that.

04:26 <Tirek> Friends get jealous. Pinkie wanted to be the one to give Rainbow Dash the best party ever.

04:27 <Tirek> She was spiteful and vindictive because of that, yes.

04:27 <Tirek> But she did turn it around.

04:27 <ryaxnb21> she didn't really try to sabotage Cheese though

04:27 <Dulset> But think about what's been established in previous episodes, especially Griffon the Brush Off

04:27 <ryaxnb21> the goof-off was a legitmate competition

04:27 <Tirek> ^

04:27 <ryaxnb21> and she didn't realize it would cause any harm

04:27 <Dulset> The worst person ever arrives, takes Dash away, and is a huge jerk to Pinkie personally.

04:28 <Tirek> Hmm.

04:28 <Dulset> Pinkie talks to Twilight about it, who says she's probably just jealous

04:28 <Tirek> I see. You're right.

04:28 <Dulset> In the end, it turns out all Pinkie ever wanted to do was make Gilda happy. There was absolutely zero jealousy, zero bitterness, zero competitiveness.

04:28 <Dulset> Because that's who Pinkie is

04:29 <Tirek> I don't totally agree there.

04:29 <Dulset> Other examples, Pinkie ALWAYS tries to immediately befriend everyone who comes to town.

04:29 <Tirek> Right, and she tried to befriend Cheese.

04:29 <Dulset> but not Cheese, the nicest guy in the world who has more in common with Pinkie than anyone and would naturally become instant friends.

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04:30 <Tirek> Oh, you're going to make me rewatch the episode, aren't you? Well, hold on.

04:30 <Tirek> I'm pretty sure she tried to get along with Cheese.

04:30 <Scherza> Most people have trouble getting along with people so similar to them.

04:30 <Dulset> She talks to Twilight about both Gilda AND Cranky, but this time she lies to Twilight about it

04:30 <Tirek> Hmm.

04:31 <Dulset> And eventually she actively tries to force this nice guy out of the party

04:31 <Dulset> Worst person ever: throw a party

04:31 <Dulset> Best guy ever: HAAAATE

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04:31 <ryaxnb21> well then you have bad opinions imo

04:31 <Dulset> Mine are backed by evidence ;)

04:31 <Dulset> Are yours?

04:31 <Scherza> Gilda didn't infringe on Pinkie's job, or really threaten her in any way.

04:32 <ryaxnb21> yes, but keep in mind "evidence" of a quality of an episode is really more of "weight for your personal opinion"

04:32 <Scherza> Cheese is really the first pony who could actually threaten pinkie's pride.

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04:32 <Scherza> And thus the first to really offend her, leading to a reaction.

04:32 <Schism> What about Cranky Doodle Donkey?

04:32 <Tirek> I still think its in character for Pinkie to have behaved that way, because we never saw her in a position where she had another pony trying to make someone happy, especially when it was her job to do so.

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04:33 <Dulset> Pinkie does not have pride.

04:33 <Scherza> Cranky threatened her pride in the exact opposite manner.

04:33 <ryaxnb21> one side note about Bloom & Gloom: it's interesting that this episode establishes that babs seed got her cutie mark when it arguably could have setup the conflict some other way

04:33 <Scherza> Dulset, please.

04:33 <Tirek> She was jealous and angry because ponies are very much defined by their talents in FiM.

04:33 <Dulset> Pinkie has NEVER had pride.

04:33 <ryaxnb21> since doing it this way means that if ponies see this episode before a season 3 episode it'll be confusing

04:34 <Dulset> And Tirek

04:34 <ryaxnb21> whereas if they chose another way to kickstart the dream it wouldn't be

04:34 <Scherza> Please. Everyone has pride. Whether or not you're prideful is a different thing entirely.

04:34 <Tirek> When Twilight tried to explain Pinkie's Pinkie Sense, she because wrathful and irritated when she couldn't solve it.

04:34 <ryaxnb21> this is one of the first times they've broken continuity seemingly just for the sake of it :P

04:34 <Dulset> Pinkie is the most cooperative pony in Ponyville. Do you really believe she wouldn't have tried asking to help plan the party?

04:34 <Tirek> Yes.

04:34 <Tirek> Because she's never HAD to.

04:35 <Tirek> And she's never EVER been upstaged.

04:35 <Dulset> and?

04:36 <Tirek> And because evidence from other ponies. When a pony is unable to do their talent, they enter high levels of stress, paranoia, anger, depression, etc.

04:36 <Dulset> Give me one example of Pinkie having pride or behaving similarly before

04:36 <Tirek> Twilight, Rarity, Fluttershy, Applejack, and Rainbow Dash all displayed this behavior in one way or another.

04:37 <Dulset> And you just contradicted yourself

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04:37 <Schism> Cutie Mark Failure Insanity Syndrome.

04:37 <Tirek> It's not about pride, it's about the magic that binds them to their talents.

04:37 <Dulset> First off that's just headcanon

04:37 <Schism> Not totally.

04:37 <Schism> Well, okay, mostly it is.

04:37 <Dulset> secondly, if you're suggesting that you must have forgotten that she never asked to help with the party

04:38 <Dulset> because she NEVER asked to help

04:38 <Tirek> I concede.

04:38 <Dulset> Tell me when Pinkie went from "I only want to see my friends smile" to "Making my friends happy is only worthwhile if I get to be the one to do it"

04:39 <Dulset> oh, ok I guess?

04:39 <Tirek> I can't argue this further.

04:39 <Dulset> Sorry if I'm like, aggressive

04:39 <Dulset> I'm having fun, I hope you guys are too

04:39 <fyrepony> i think some people should not be given web access.... http://www.reddit.com/r/mylittlepony/comments/34aq6w/so_a_fellow_brony_redditor_narrowly_averted/

04:39 <fyrepony> this is pure attention whoring

04:40 <fyrepony> mmm

04:40 <fyrepony> *bucking

04:40 <Dulset> But Tirek, just know

04:40 <Dulset> That episode was one of my favorites from the season

04:40 <Dulset> so the rest was... reeeeeally disappointing...

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04:42 <Tirek> I've not watched an episode since the finale of season 4, and I've kind of lost interest in the series as a whole.

04:43 <Tirek> So I'm not in a position to debate these things, since my memory is pretty foggy.

04:43 <ryaxnb21> i know i've said you should watch things

04:43 <fyrepony> Tirek: moved over to furries?

04:43 <ryaxnb21> so i will again

04:43 <ryaxnb21> you shouls watch it

04:43 <Dulset> eh, it's alright

04:43 <Tirek> What

04:43 <Dulset> I never watched any season 4 eps more than once

04:43 <Tirek> Where did that come from?

04:43 <Thelema5> Tirek, you may find that the season 5 premier episodes are unexpectedly refreshing.

04:44 <Dulset> I found them disappointingly bland but better than the awful season 4 premiere

04:44 * Scherza is rewatching. Cheese sandwich forces his way to the forefront, pushing Pinkie aside.

04:44 <Dulset> I was really hyped too... Larson...

04:44 <Tirek> I'll probably watch a certain upcoming episode when it comes along

04:44 <Thelema5> Dulset, if you find so little enjoyment in the show- why are you spending time in a brony chat?

04:45 * Scherza sees strange pausescreen mid-blinks. Shipping intensifies.

04:45 <Tirek> They still like ponies.

04:45 <Tirek> They just don't like the most recent episodes.

04:45 * Muffin_Spectacles just watched Twilight kick Angel into mud :)

04:46 <Tirek> Like me, except I'm only adamant and irritable where Tirek is concerned :v

04:46 <fyrepony> :3

04:46 <Tirek> But that's a rant that has been done to death.

04:46 <Thelema5> But, most recent seems to encompass more than a year and a half of episodes.

04:46 <Tirek> Sure.

04:46 <Dulset> Wow, I've been defended for once :)

04:46 <Dulset> Thank you Tirek

04:46 <Ethera> I was expecting Twilight to ask Fluttershy if she could take a bath with her, in that scene.

04:46 <Thelema5> I'd say, at this point?  Let it go and move on.

04:46 <Dulset> And you see

04:47 <Dulset> You really have no idea how much I loved the first two seasons

04:47 <Muffin_Spectacles> Ethera: don't tease the minds of desperate pony fiends out there.

04:47 <Ethera> :3

04:47 <Dulset> if there's even the slightest chance that something that good could appear again, I must continue being disappointed

04:47 <Scherza> Yeah. Pinkie gets kicked out of her own job by Cheese Sandwich. Jerk level: 8.

04:47 <Tirek> I don't let things go, Thelema. The Tirek thing was really the point I was most obnoxious about, because it felt like an insult to me.

04:48 <Muffin_Spectacles> I still call Rainbow Power, MLP's 'Super Pursuit Mode.'

04:48 <ryaxnb21> Dulset: the whole show is great :/

04:48 <Dulset> I do have a headcanon though, that makes Cheese into quite the cunning gentleman ;)

04:48 <Thelema5> Dulset, you seem to have made up your mind about the show.  I doubt there's anything the makers could do to appease you.

04:48 <Scherza> Oh, of that I have no doubt. He wasn't a jerk because he is a jerk, but because he was hitting on Pinkie Pie.

04:48 <ryaxnb21> and w/r/t tirek if  you want g1 tirek watch g1 pilot

04:48 <Dulset> That's an enormous insult, Thelema.

04:48 <ryaxnb21> that will get you good ole g1 tirek

04:48 <Tirek> That's not the point.

04:49 <Scherza> Sometimes colts do stupid things when they're nervous.

04:49 <Muffin_Spectacles> Like whenever there's a new iteration of the Joker...everyone has to hate it first!

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04:49 <Tirek> Back when I first joined this room in 2013, I was saying they should bring Tirek back, and that they should put him in Tartarus.

04:49 <ryaxnb21> the point is g4 completely changes all pony mythology too

04:49 <Scherza> ... but you're supposed to hate the joker.

04:49 <ryaxnb21> not just tirek

04:49 <Dulset> Except Heath Ledger!

04:49 <Thelema5> Sorry if you find it insulting, but you've spend hours in here asking questions and rejecting the answers out of hoof.

04:49 <Scherza> Until you find out that you love the character archetype too much to hate him.

04:49 <ryaxnb21> so it's unsurprising tirek is a very different pony

04:49 <KooK> reading rainbooooooooooooow

04:49 <Dulset> NO ONE dislikes heath ledger

04:49 <Muffin_Spectacles> Scherza: Well, explain that to the girls who would willingly marry him despite him doing terrible things.

04:50 <Tirek> Speaking of someone who is rejecting explanations out of hand

04:50 <Thelema5> Seems like a terrible waste of your time.

04:50 <ryaxnb21> hahahah

04:50 <Dulset> And Thelema, if you must know, I have actually been hoping someone would prove me wrong.

04:50 <ryaxnb21> commentator on silverspoon's insulting

04:50 * Scherza has a fanon that makes Tirek a much, much cooler villain... just not in Equestria.

04:50 <ryaxnb21> "whenever YOU need a friend you can just go out and spoon yourself"

04:50 <Muffin_Spectacles> Well, at least the fandom hasn't gotten to the depths of pure hatred like Star Wars has gotten to.

04:50 <ryaxnb21> is that SS's cutie mark?

04:51 <ryaxnb21> :D

04:51 <Dulset> Anyway guys hear me out.

04:51 <Dulset> Remember when Cheese said that he was actually inspired by Pinkie years ago?

04:51 <Dulset> He was LYING

04:51 <Lenfant_Sauvage> This sounds good.

04:51 <Muffin_Spectacles> Dulset: And...reasons?

04:51 <Thelema5> Dulset, seems a few have provided good arguments, which you've discounted without reason.

04:51 <Scherza> But why would he lie during a critical plot moment? Lying happens in the first part of the plot to initiate conflict.

04:52 <Scherza> Not the resolution. What is this, you madman? You're messing with my perfect world. Turning bad guys into good guys just to prove they were bad guys all along.

04:52 <Scherza> This is madness, and it will not stand!

04:52 <Scherza> Cheesy Pie 4 evar.

04:52 <Dulset> He was telling the truth in the beginning, but when he saw how jealous and bitter Pinkie had become, he did the simplest, kindest thing to cheer her up.

04:53 <ryaxnb21> Dulset: saying the canon is lying

04:53 <ryaxnb21> is a terrible idea

04:53 <Lenfant_Sauvage> OK, OK, OK

04:53 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Hold on

04:53 <Dulset> He literally said "I told a little fib"

04:53 <ryaxnb21> unless it's hinted the canon is a unreliable narrator

04:53 <Dulset> but I say he was lying about lying

04:53 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I just got back from work, I'ms eeing the chat for the first time, and you guys have apparently been arguing

04:53 * Muffin_Spectacles is taking the Fluttershy route: just sitting here, watching what's going on for most.

04:53 <Lenfant_Sauvage> FOR HOURS

04:53 <Lenfant_Sauvage> about this

04:53 <ryaxnb21> Lenfant_Sauvage: yep

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04:53 <Dulset> ok ok, hear me out

04:53 <Scherza> Unless.... cheese sparkle.

04:53 <Dulset> exhibit A

04:53 <KooK> I just noticed that LS is correct

04:54 <Dulset> He's CLEARLY older than the mane cast, he even calls them "little fillies"

04:54 <Dulset> how could he have been a young colt while Pinkie was also a filly?

04:54 <Lenfant_Sauvage> THat's not exactly the most ironclad of proofs...

04:54 <Scherza> Except time is exceptionally relative in equestria.

04:54 <Lenfant_Sauvage> So some guy randomly stops some woman on the street by going "Haaaay gurrrrrl", that means he's twice her age?

04:54 <Scherza> One year to you may be fifty years backwards to the pony by you. ;p

04:55 <Dulset> And as mentioned before, he's already established as a fibber

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04:55 <Dulset> It's not proof obviously, but there's more reason to think he was lying than that he was telling the truth

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04:56 <Scherza> Yes, and that can be in your own personal fanon. However, for the sake of the show, neither a protagonist nor an antagonist will deceive the audience during the resolution of the plot.

04:56 <ryaxnb21> in a tv show, you assume the characters are telling the truth unless they're implied to be lying

04:56 <Dulset> It's such a convenient and unnecessary coincidence that he was inspired by Pinkie, almost as if it never really happened.

04:56 <KooK> My cat has acknowledged I have returned to bed and is now on me and purring as loudly as he can.

04:56 <ryaxnb21> Scherza: unless its implied they are doing so

04:56 <Dulset> He SAID he lied!

04:56 <Muffin_Spectacles> Well, we all have our own head-canons. Like mine, regarding why the fillies who were at Sweetie Belle's 5th Birthday party, are still the same age and at a party in present day in 'Inspiration Manifestation.'

04:56 <ryaxnb21> either  by music tones, or the like

04:56 <ryaxnb21> obviously implausible events during a flashback is another way of doing it

04:56 <Dulset> ryaxn

04:56 <Dulset> he SAID he was lying

04:56 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Wasn't he pimping up some other aspect of his stage persona, and that was his fib? I haven't watched the episode in awhile but I know he wasn't being entirely truthful about who he was

04:56 <ryaxnb21> no he didn't

04:57 <KooK> Rainbow Dash is obviously the best pony here.

04:57 <Scherza> No, of course he wasn't. He was puffing himself up to impress Pinkie Pie.

04:57 <Dulset> Yes, he said he was lying about something else. But that ruins the assumption that he's honest.

04:57 <Dulset> AND this has happened before!

04:57 <ryaxnb21> but he's assumed to be honest because it's a resolution/climax

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04:57 <Dulset> Remember Fancy Pants?

04:57 <Dulset> He did the same thing.

04:57 <KooK> hmmmmmmm

04:58 <Scherza> I do not recall. IIRC, it was Rarity who was lying the whole time.

04:58 <Lenfant_Sauvage> "but that ruins the assumption that he's honest"... half the episode is ABOUT how much of a showboat Cheese Sandwich is...

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04:58 <Dulset> He lied about enjoying her lame dress in order to save her reputation from the socialites

04:58 *** Reia_Away is now known as Reia_Hope

04:58 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Did he?

04:58 <Dulset> just as Rarity had done for Fluttershy the previous season!

04:58 <Lenfant_Sauvage> You don't know that.

04:59 <KooK> Did you guys know that the voice of Cheese Sandwich is Robert Downey Jr.?

04:59 <Dulset> Lying for others' benefit has been a thing since season 1

04:59 <ryaxnb21> KooK: your trolling needs a serious intervention

04:59 <Lenfant_Sauvage> No, I'm pretty sure it's Chris Pratt, KooK

04:59 <Dulset> Justin Bieber you guys

04:59 <KooK> Who the heck is Chris Pratt

04:59 <Scherza> I thought they tried to find the cheesiest guy they could.

04:59 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Hamburger Helper?!

04:59 <KooK> What?

04:59 <Scherza> So they took some no-name person from wisconsin.

04:59 <init3> Chris Pratt is a cool dude.

04:59 <ryaxnb21> he did the leave britney alone video, KooK

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04:59 <Tirek> Chuck E. Cheese?

05:00 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Dulset: just because someone lied before in the show doesn't mean every single person that sticks up for another is automatically lying

05:00 <Dulset> ask yourself this then

05:00 <KooK> Oh, I just looked him up

05:00 <init3> He plays Andy on Parks and rec and "Starlord" in Guardians of the galaxcy

05:00 <KooK> THAT'S where I know hom, Guardians of the Galaxy

05:00 <init3> Yep

05:00 <Dulset> ryaxnb had made an argument about assuming people are honest, all I did was prove that argument is untenable.

05:00 <KooK> I wanted to cry the first part of that movie

05:01 <KooK> then awesome movie

05:01 <KooK> then I wanted to cry at the end again

05:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Music of the Day #484 [ http://tinyurl.com/pm52pbk ]

05:01 <init3> Hehe

05:01 <init3> We are groot.

05:01 <Lenfant_Sauvage> You can believe what you want about Fancy Pants but to use him as an example is flawed, because there is no concrete proof he was lying to Twilight and Rarity.

05:01 <init3> Crai

05:01 <KooK> Haha

05:01 <Lenfant_Sauvage> He may as well just have been an awesome guy who happened to be among the elite n' such, just as the show painted him.

05:01 <KooK> Groot is such a beast

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05:02 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Groot lives a hard life. His life's a birch.

05:02 <Lenfant_Sauvage> hur

05:02 <Dulset> But there IS proof that Rarity did it for Fluttershy. And Fancy Pants doing the same for her is perfect karmic absolution.

05:02 <Lenfant_Sauvage> >_>

05:02 <KooK> Aren't they making a second one?

05:02 <Lenfant_Sauvage> If... Fancy Pants had ANYTHING to do with Fluttershy then maybe...

05:02 <init3> Not sure

05:03 <Dulset> Well ask yourself this

05:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> No.

05:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Let me ask this.

05:03 <Dulset> What if he'd SEEN that? There were lots of socialits there

05:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> You have apparently been in this chat for OVER FOUR HOURS

05:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Debating LITTLE DETAILS about TWO episodes of a children's cartoon

05:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> For what tangible benefit are you doing this for?

05:03 <Dulset> about six episodes

05:03 <KooK> That makes all the difference

05:03 <Dulset> yup

05:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> oh yes

05:03 <KooK> You see, 5 episodes would be a line

05:04 <KooK> 6, alright, understandable

05:04 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Especially when by others' account you've actually caused pones to /leave the chat/ because of your behavior

05:04 <Dulset> so you're trying to get me to leave?

05:04 <Lenfant_Sauvage> No. I'm trying to get you to drop the subject before you annoy anyone else, me included. I love a healthy debate but from what others are telling me this has gone way overboard.

05:05 <Dulset> People want to debate

05:05 <Dulset> otherwise I'd have no one to talk to

05:05 <KooK> You know, you can converse without debate

05:05 <Thelema5> Nah.  People want to hang out.

05:05 <Dulset> From what I hear, this place is sorely lacking in actual show discussion

05:05 <Dulset> You're suggesting that discussion is not welcome

05:06 <KooK> 4 hour long arguements aren't welcome

05:06 <Lenfant_Sauvage> FOUR HOURS OF TALKING ABOUT MINOR PLOT DETAILS

05:06 <Thelema5> No, but you don't need to counter every comment with it's opposite.

05:06 <Seoson> discussion is welcome if it goes anywhere

05:06 <Dulset> I think you need to cool off.

05:06 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Really?

05:06 <Dulset> mhm

05:06 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Please drop the subject.

05:06 <Lenfant_Sauvage> This goes for everyone else too.

05:06 <Dulset> You're the one coming after me

05:07 <KooK> ...

05:07 <Scherza> The sheriff has that right.

05:07 <Lenfant_Sauvage> We drop this entire discussion and move on to something else.

05:07 <Thelema5> So I really hope we see more of Starlight Glimmer in the season finale.

05:07 <Dulset> I don't see why you think you have the authority to tell people what they can talk about

05:07 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Because

05:07 <Dulset> I hope we see her BEFORE the finale

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05:07 <Thelema5> :p

05:08 <Dulset> XD

05:08 * Seoson lolz

05:08 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I'm not going to stifle healthy discussion, but when it gets to the point where people are uncomfortable sticking around because of the bedlam, intervention is necessary. :/

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05:09 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Believe me. I love discussion. I've been part of, and even instigated, some rants. But we practice restraint as well. Four hours is waaay long for something like small horse cartoon.

05:09 <Dulset> Then you should know that that never happened.

05:09 <Scherza> Pinkie Pride is stupidly comical.

05:09 <Dulset> Some people left because they wanted to leave, no one was driven away.

05:09 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I'm getting word otherwise.

05:09 <Dulset> And now you're getting word to the opposite

05:10 <ThunderPie> hi :D

05:10 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ohi

05:10 <Thelema5> Starlight Glimmer could potentially become the most dangerous villian we've seen in the show- in real life, dangerous ideologies have caused more suffering than dangerous monsters.

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05:10 *** Jet_Black is now known as Heartbreak

05:10 <Dulset> I've actually been insulted here you know

05:10 <OctaveSymphony> To excel is to fail!

05:11 <Scherza> To excel at doing nothing is to succeed?

05:11 <Dulset> I wish she'd had some character or motivation.

05:11 * Heartbreak boops OctaveSymphony.

05:11 <KooK> I'm getting ready to block Dulset, I can't tell if he's trolling or just feels the need to turn everything into an debate/arguement.

05:11 <Seoson> Starlight Glimmer reminded me a bit of The Book of Eli

05:11 <Heartbreak> Dulset, everything I say is a lie.

05:11 * OctaveSymphony hugs Heartbreak super tight!

05:11 <Heartbreak> Gaaaaaaaah!

05:11 <Heartbreak> WHY!?

05:12 <OctaveSymphony> Cause it's been so long since we talked.

05:12 * Heartbreak noogies OctaveSymphony

05:12 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Hell, it's been quite a while since you or Jet have been in the channel per-...

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05:12 * Heartbreak boops Lenfant_Sauvage.

05:12 <Lenfant_Sauvage> period*.

05:12 <Heartbreak> Does that mean you're going to hug me?

05:12 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I read "nuzzles" and thought you were going way OOC lol

05:12 <Heartbreak> ...

05:13 <Dulset> see look, nobody HAS to argue with me

05:13 * Scherza decides to glomp Heartbreak. Executes.

05:13 <Dulset> the people who do, WANT to

05:13 <Heartbreak> I am not going to nuzzle OctaveSymphony.

05:13 <Heartbreak> Want to what, Dulset?

05:13 <Seoson> Oh please ...

05:13 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Then we have a problem with people reporting to mods about overreaching behavior in the chat.

05:13 * Scherza instructs HB to leave this for L'enfant.

05:13 <Heartbreak> Awwww!

05:13 * OctaveSymphony nuzzles Heartbreak then.

05:13 <Dulset> Exactly, they're just overreacting.

05:14 * Heartbreak gets all sad eyed at Scherza.

05:14 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ... no they're not.

05:14 <Heartbreak> Fffffffffiiiiiiiine.

05:14 <Lenfant_Sauvage> It apparently went unreported and unwitnessed. Which is a pretty bad sign.

05:14 <Dulset> What did?

05:14 <Dulset> Oh, when I was insulted?

05:14 <Dulset> yeah

05:14 * Heartbreak sticks her tongue out at Scherza. "Spoil-sport."

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05:14 <Dulset> I have thick skin

05:14 * Scherza puts a cupcake on HB's tongue.

05:14 *** User_7472 is now known as Got6

05:15 <Got6> hey everypone

05:15 <Got6> .. lol

05:15 <KooK> yo

05:15 <Seoson> Welcome, Got6, welcome to our channel :P

05:15 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I wasn't referring to you.

05:16 <Got6> its been a while since ive been in here. how yall doing tonight

05:16 <OctaveSymphony> So Heartbreak, what've you been up to?

05:16 * Heartbreak booops Seoson.

05:16 <Scherza> I am well.

05:16 <Heartbreak> OctaveSymphony, *cough coughs* Same old same old.

05:16 <OctaveSymphony> And yush Lenfant_Sauvage, it has been a while since I was in here

05:16 * Seoson is watching some Celestia trolling moments

05:16 <Dulset> hm?

05:17 <Got6> im listening to seaon 2 episode 3 atm. watching from season 1 to 4 then to on to 5. i havent seen any of 5 yet. no cable -.-

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05:18 * Heartbreak genderbends OctaveSymphony.

05:18 <Seoson> Got6: Beaware of spoilers in here.

05:18 <Seoson> The might come without further notice

05:18 <Got6> np

05:18 <Scherza> Spoilers will be plentiful. Also, you can use the !link command.

05:18 <Scherza> Err... sorry, !list

05:18 <Got6> whats that for again?

05:19 <Thelema5> Hello, Got6.

05:19 <Dulset> by the way how DO I report someone?

05:19 <Scherza> There's some of the episodes available therein.

05:19 <Seoson> -> topic: Downloading episodes

05:19 <Got6> hi thelema

05:19 <Thelema5> Nice to meet you!

05:19 <Thelema5> Beware what seoson said.

05:20 * Heartbreak noogies Thelema5.

05:20 * OctaveSymphony resists Heartbreak's genderbending.

05:20 * Heartbreak whimpers and gives massively cute overly done pony eyes at OctaveSymphony.

05:20 <Dulset> how do I report someone?

05:21 * OctaveSymphony hugs Heartbreak again :3

05:21 <Heartbreak> Gaaaaaaaah.

05:21 <OctaveSymphony> You're not getting away from the hugs.

05:21 * Heartbreak shoves a muffin in OctaveSymphony's mouth.

05:21 * OctaveSymphony acks!

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05:21 <Heartbreak> MUFFINS.

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05:22 <KooK> Ctrl-f5 brings up the report screen

05:22 <Got6> lol i forgot how much twilight loses it in E3 of S2 wow

05:22 <Seoson> Dulset: I would PM a trustworthy channel OP. IDK if this is the official way.

05:23 <Scherza> IRC has no 'report' feature that I know of. Simply, you tell a mod in private chat.

05:23 * Scherza has forgotten how to do whispers, for whatever reason.

05:23 <Dulset> thank you

05:23 <Seoson>   /msg [Nickname] [MSG]

05:24 <Dulset> :)

05:24 <Scherza> Oh. Right. That's what it was.

05:24 <Got6> question for yall. what fan created ponies are popular in the community atm?

05:24 * Scherza grumbles. "Stupid video game chat systems."

05:24 <Thelema5> Flufflepuff.

05:24 <Dulset> I would ask what you guys think of the comics but

05:24 <Dulset> surprise surprise, I think they're bad :P

05:24 <Seoson> Also this IRC network has a way to raise IRC OPs attention, but only for network business.

05:24 <Thelema5> Dulset, perhaps you need to find a new hobby?

05:25 <Dulset> Perhaps you need to mind your own beeswax :|

05:25 <Dulset> buuut yeah I do other stuff, multitasking

05:25 <Scherza> I don't think Thelema5 tends bees.

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05:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

05:25 <Thelema5> I'm sorry?  I think I just replied to a public comment you made.

05:25 <Got6> BEES!? WHERE!?

05:26 <Seoson> Hello Ali!

05:26 <Thelema5> Hi, Ali.

05:26 * Ali wavies

05:26 * Scherza puts an Apple Bloom in front of Got6, to help fend off the bees.

05:26 * Ali looks at topic

05:26 * Halcyon_Starlight applies bees to Got6

05:26 <Halcyon_Starlight> everywhere!

05:26 *** Ali changes topic to 'Welcome to EquestriaDaily! This is an ALL-AGES channel. | GUIDE: http://derpy.me/EqDRules | Type !list to download episodes | No fun allowed. | Fun? Did somepony say FUN?!'

05:26 <Got6> the bees!!! ow!

05:26 * Halcyon_Starlight just noticed the topic.

05:26 <Thelema5> :P

05:26 <Scherza> Fun!

05:26 <Thelema5> Fun, fun!

05:26 <Ali> FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN

05:26 <Seoson> Yeah Unixkitty put her claws into it :P

05:27 <Heartbreak> FUN?!

05:27 <Heartbreak> NOT.

05:27 <Halcyon_Starlight> What is fun? Here, let me spell it for you.

05:27 <Heartbreak> Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun!

05:27 * Ali created a monster

05:27 <Heartbreak> Good Job Ali.

05:27 * Ali ish fine

05:27 <Halcyon_Starlight> F is for friends who do stuff together. You is for you and me!~ N is for anywhere and anytime at all, down here in the deep blue sea!~

05:27 <OctaveSymphony> Fun!

05:27 <Heartbreak> D:

05:27 <Heartbreak> Not...

05:27 <Got6> Nuf!

05:28 <Heartbreak> SPONGE BOB.

05:28 <Seoson> That show is so silly -.-

05:28 <Halcyon_Starlight> something something something something something something something something something U is for ukulele, N is for nose picking something something something! DOWN HERE IN THE DEEP BLUE SEA!

05:28 * Seoson says the one watching Pone.

05:29 <Heartbreak> Seoson. Not anymore...

05:29 * Scherza sings quietly in the corner. "F is for fires igniting the night sky, U is for uninteresting songs. N is for nocturnal supremacy -- here in a private army."

05:29 <Halcyon_Starlight> :D

05:30 * Scherza is not so good with parody.

05:30 <Heartbreak> Modern Sponge is... scary.

05:30 <Dulset> F is for FIRE THAT ohh nevermind

05:30 <Halcyon_Starlight> no ou got it wrong Scherza

05:30 <Thelema5> Dulset, I was simply suggesting that you might want to find other avenues of enjoyment if you've been dissatisfied with the pony show for more than a year and a half.  I'd hardly think that dwelling on things you dislike is a healthy outlet.

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05:31 <Halcyon_Starlight> it's... F is for fires that burn down the whole down, U is for uranium...*dramatic pause* BOMBS! N is for no survivors *ragescream: when you destroy the town!*

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05:31 * Scherza sits down, and glumly tries to draw her cutie mark. The epic failure at drawing skill results in a squiggly line she instead turns into a squid.

05:31 *** Seoson is now known as Shining_Night[Seoson]

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05:31 <Halcyon_Starlight> lol

05:31 * Schism boops Heartbreak with an Innsmouth Academy fillies' uniform.

05:31 <Halcyon_Starlight> I can imagine an animation just like that Scherza. It's too bad I can't animate!

05:31 <Dulset> It's actually very healthy, thank you for your concern.

05:31 * Halcyon_Starlight will learn though, soon, very soon. MUA hahahahaha.

05:32 <Heartbreak> Schism, I see that you're going to be wearing this uniform.

05:32 <Schism> Nonsense.

05:32 * Schism flees into the mist.

05:32 <Heartbreak> Scherza, Your cutie mark is Squidward?

05:32 <Heartbreak> ...

05:32 <Schism> HB: Ever play The Secret World?

05:32 <Heartbreak> That would be a horrible world.

05:32 <Heartbreak> Cutie mark!

05:32 <Scherza> <rp> Might as well be. Not like I can remember it.

05:33 <Heartbreak> Fetting fet Schism!

05:33 <Schism> Vwa?

05:33 <Heartbreak> Scherza, You lost yours?

05:33 <Scherza> Yes.

05:33 <Thelema5> Dulset, this might be beneficial to you: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/04/11/the-effects-of-negative-emotions-on-our-health/

05:33 * Schism headtilts. "The Secret World, where the Illuminati fight with Templar and Dragons, against Lovecraftian horrors..."

05:33 <Heartbreak> Scherza, Which is worse, the lonely heart, or the broken heart?

05:34 <ryaxnb21> the windows xp black edition comes with the weirdest win 7 theme

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05:34 <Shining_Night[Seoson]> I don't even have any images of XP anymore.

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05:35 <Scherza> The lonely heart.

05:35 <Scherza> The latter has a bitter spirit there with them.

05:36 <Scherza> The former has nothing.

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05:37 <Got6> RANDOM QUESTION TIME! If the general human population of earth were to see the ponies and other equestrians of equestria and have never heard of MLP anything what would we/they do? I know this is most likly and age old question by now but meh i asked it lol.

05:37 <Heartbreak> Scherza, How about the heart that was forced to be there by a branding?

05:37 * Scherza rants. "I'd rather have something than nothing at all. Because I can make the best of something. But nothing... well, with nothing you might as well just die.

05:37 * Heartbreak glares at Scherza.

05:38 <Heartbreak> I say that they are both equally unpleasant.

05:38 <Scherza> If you're there by a branding, you are someone's. While slavery is bad, anything beats being lonely.

05:39 <Scherza> Got6, some would turn them into meat. Others would turn them into pets. Others would encase them in amber and put them into a museum.

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05:39 <Scherza> And a few people would faint from confusion, and yet fewer would share their alcohol.

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05:39 <Scherza> But mostly, over all, people would just be confused.

05:39 <Heartbreak> ...

05:40 <Heartbreak> Scherza, I belong to nop-p-pony.

05:40 <Got6> well... (ahem) thats one way to break the ice on that...

05:40 <Scherza> Well let's change that. Join my crew, and we will conquer equestria one hero at a time.

05:40 <Scherza> Aight, done. </rp>

05:42 <Got6> on that note.. i really i need to get on here more often. and stop asking questions make yall apparently quiet.. lol

05:42 <Got6> on that note POOF!

05:42 * Heartbreak noogies Schera.

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05:43 <Dulset> Thank you Thelema but I would appreciate you not concern yourself with my personal life

05:43 * Scherza grumbles at Heartbreak.

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05:46 <Thelema5> Dulset, I'm not sure how my reply to a public comment made in a public chat could in any way be taken as a comment on your personal life.

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05:47 <Dulset> how long have you been pointlessly perstering me now? 3 hours? 4?

05:47 <Dulset> Shall I report you?

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05:47 <Thelema5> Hmm.  Please do?

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05:49 <Thelema5> I'm comfortable with my conduct.

05:49 <Shining_Night[Seoson]> Could please both of you stop? Somepony will get angry and one will pull the banhammer eventually. Keep it cool and calm

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05:50 <Dulset> I'm trying to be polite

05:50 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Alright, that's far enough.

05:50 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Both of you, quit it.

05:50 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Or we're going to bans.

05:50 <Dulset> Thank you

05:50 <Thelema5> Quite enough, indeed.

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05:52 <Dulset> If you like, I could gush about how Return of Harmony was even more well written than anyone gives it credit for.

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06:02 <Finwe> o3o

06:03 <Finwe> Morning, everypony!

06:03 * Scherza o3o's at Finwe.

06:03 <Finwe> Mr Scherza.

06:03 * Finwe doffs his hat.

06:03 * Scherza hats on Finwe.

06:04 * Finwe doffs Scherza.

06:04 * Schism places a chibi Cthulhu plush on Finwe's hat.

06:04 <Finwe> Iä!

06:05 <Tirek> Here's something I haven't done in a while

06:05 <Tirek> Music: https://zantilla.bandcamp.com/album/star-bride

06:05 <Finwe> In 26 minutes this ferry will leave, and then I'll be on my way to Estonia.

06:05 <Finwe> o3o

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06:08 <Midli> BOOTY BOOTY ROCKIN ERRYWHERE

06:08 <Tirek> No.

06:08 <Midli> k

06:08 * Finwe boops Scherza with Estonian eel in jelly.

06:08 <Midli> booty booty rockin elsewhere

06:08 * Scherza is electrified.

06:09 <Finwe> My jelly is full of eels!

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06:09 *** Scherza is now known as Scherza[XIV|Coil]

06:09 <Ethera> Not your hovercraft?

06:10 <Finwe> No, this is a passenger ferry, not a hovercraft.

06:10 <Ethera> Ah, so no threat of eels then.

06:11 <Finwe> Indeed.

06:11 <Finwe> Know what I mean? *nudge* *nudge*

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06:12 <Finwe> Say no more, say no more.

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06:12 <Schism> Wink wink, nudge nudge~

06:13 <Finwe> :3

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06:17 * Finwe snuggles a Schism and a Scherza[XIV|Coil].

06:17 * Scherza[XIV|Coil] is plushified.

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06:26 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Short SFM: I'll Fly  [ http://tinyurl.com/m8uafqv ]

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06:35 * Lenfant_Sauvage ambles over to Finwe. Does not snuggle, nuzzle, salute, hug, or anything. Just... stands.

06:39 * Lenfant_Sauvage 's demonstration of nothing apparently moidered the chat. Moidered. :<

06:40 <Tirek> Here, have 48 minutes of chiptune prog-rock: http://ubiktune.com/releases/ubi081-stig-velocity

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06:49 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ...

06:49 <Lenfant_Sauvage> that solves that mystery

06:50 <Ali> Hmm?

06:50 <Ali> didn't know you were signed in elsewhere?

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06:54 <Shining_Night[Seoson]> Somepony should overthink his quit message -.-

06:55 <init3> Hue

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06:57 <init3> It is easy to forget your /quit gets broadcasted on all the channels you are in.

06:59 * Ali facehooves

06:59 <Lenfant_Sauvage> What, I shouldn't broadcast my twitter accounts? ;p

06:59 <Shining_Night[Seoson]> As an IRC mod you should know *g* I'll give him a hint next time I see his name, since I don't know exaclty how that DerpyMail works (based on nickname or loginame?)

06:59 <Shining_Night[Seoson]> login name*

06:59 <Ali> I know who it is

07:00 <Ali> But really...

07:00 <Lenfant_Sauvage> No, I only just now noticed I had a second instance of Hexchat running, it's kind of funky on Win8

07:00 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ... OH THAT ONE

07:00 <Lenfant_Sauvage> lolwat

07:01 <Shining_Night[Seoson]> Nice work on CLH Ali :P That poor kitten

07:02 * Ali doesn't talk about other channel possible drama in other channels.

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07:11 <DerpyBot> *derp*

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07:17 <init3> Do y'all suppose Ponyville has a library still? Is it in the castle? Is Twilight still Ponyville's book horse?

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07:18 <Schism> Yes, yes, and yes.

07:19 <init3> Okay.

07:19 <Schism> Faaaairly sure Twilight spent the first few days frantically reassembling a collection from memory.

07:19 <Seoson> It has been mentioned that the castle has a library

07:19 <init3> I know that there is a library, I guess I'm unsure if it is a public one is all.

07:19 <Ali> Only in EqG

07:20 <Seoson> Also in S%

07:20 <Seoson> S5*

07:20 <init3> But I'd assume it is in her character would want let everyone have access to it right?

07:20 <Seoson> It was metioned that Daring posters are in the library now

07:20 <Seoson> (Thanks to RD)

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07:21 <init3> I guess it is a minor thing really. I just randomly decided to actually start writing instead of just jotting down ideas and I think I may be over thinking this bit but I've always known I write like this.

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07:23 <init3> If Rainbow dash wanted a book from purple smart, would she knock or come in some library entrance? I was originally thinking crash through the wall but I think the castle may be too durable for that cliche RD entrance.

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07:24 <init3> I was originally going to have it in the library but then the latest ep gave me a good way to segue into my silly fic so I need to castle and I don't know how to castle.  

07:24 <init3> Except in chess, before someone explains that.

07:24 <init3> SOMEONE was thinking it.

07:26 *** OctaveSymphony is now known as ShowerSymphony

07:26 <init3> I need to stop being overly technical about this.

07:27 <init3> Time for a sandvich and tea I suppose.

07:27 * Seoson suddenly starts to laugh.

07:28 * Schism offers init3 some beef barley soup with fresh mozzarella chunks.

07:31 <init3> Oh wow

07:32 <init3> That sounds amazing. I was too lazy to make tea so I just got a bologna and cheese and carrots. Living the high life.

07:33 <init3> Wish I had Ranch dressing for my carrots though :(

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07:37 <Schism> How can you be too lazy to make tea?

07:38 <Schism> Boil water, drop teabag in boiling water, let sit 5 minutes, sip.

07:38 <Ali> Burn tongue off $$$$$$ Profit

07:39 * Black gives Ali a new tongue so they don't have to suffer.

07:40 <Heartbreak> TEA!

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07:40 * Seoson prefers drinking his tea cold

07:40 <init3> Well it means I'd have to walk to the kitchen to start boiling it then return later.

07:40 * Heartbreak boops Black.

07:40 <Heartbreak> Black is now White.

07:40 <Heartbreak> Gawds that sounds horrible.

07:41 <init3> I know.

07:41 <init3> The kitchen is at least 20 feet away.

07:42 <Black> not really

07:42 <Black> there is black and white spy

07:42 <Black> and uh..

07:42 <init3> Gah, but now that I think about it more it sounds really good. My solution is to bring my laptop with me.

07:42 <Black> Black and white pokemon games

07:43 <init3> Thus cutting the trip in half!

07:43 * init3 is a smart pone

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07:45 * Heartbreak noogies Black.

07:45 * Black roleplays too. This is fun. Everypony should do it! Like right now! I mean meow.

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07:46 <init3> Bleep bloop. I am a computer.

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07:46 <init3> Please don't put Windows on me.

07:46 * Pi smashes init3

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07:47 <init3> Fzzzzt

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07:49 <init3> Assault me and run will you?

07:49 <init3> Pfft

07:50 * init3 's inventory updated: cup of hot water with a teabag in it added.

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07:50 <CleverDerpy> hiya

07:51 <init3> Herro

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07:59 * Seoson has a hot cup of tea now as well. He will still need to wait for it to cool down.

08:00 <init3> Mine is finally ready to be drank. Horray tea. I think I have some of the put you to sleep kind too. Let's hope it works. I like sleep. I miss it.

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08:01 * Lenfant_Sauvage replaces the tea in init3 with chamomile tea.

08:01 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ... is it chamomile?

08:01 <Lenfant_Sauvage> That's the kind that's supposed to help. Never tried it myself but for your sake hope it does. o3o

08:02 <init3> No idea really. It is just some random unlabled tea bags that I am pretty sure are from the box that said sleepytime or something on it.

08:02 <init3> But the box is long gone so it is a crap shoot really.

08:02 <init3> I /think/ it tastes like it. Could be remembering wrong.

08:02 <Lenfant_Sauvage> o3o;...

08:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Regardless.

08:03 * Lenfant_Sauvage puts a blanket over init3.

08:03 <init3> mmm

08:04 * Electron sets up a small tea table

08:04 <init3> I do feel tired but this is pretty early for me to sleep. I just need to keep myself from starting to write again or going too deep into the interwebs.

08:05 <Lenfant_Sauvage> That's a good thing to do.

08:05 <init3> Oh, are we about to have a tea party? There is some comedy there I think considering the MLP love in this channel.

08:06 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I used to have major sleep problems too. What really did help, especially after I got my job, was setting myself a set time to go to bed

08:06 <init3> See I'm not working. It is usually fine if I am working

08:07 * Electron brews tea of different kinds

08:07 <init3> But right now part of the issue is this antibiotic I guess. Insomnia is a pretty common side effect and I was already having peroids of several days without sleep.

08:07 * Electron arrange tea cups all over the table

08:10 <init3> Wow I was trying to find the tea party scene in gen 3.5 as a joke. Since that requires me to actually watch 3.5 I cannot do it. I tried. I have failed you mother comedy.

08:11 <ryaxnb21> hi init3

08:11 <ryaxnb21> phahaha

08:11 <init3> Hey

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08:11 <ryaxnb21> also i keep xp around because it's xp and is way more compatible

08:12 <ryaxnb21> i have this spare laptop that doesn't do anything

08:12 <ryaxnb21> so that's what i use for xp

08:12 <ryaxnb21> it's too crappy to use for actual work but is fine for compatibility with XP-needing apps and such

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08:15 <ryaxnb21> it dual boots with linux which i use if i ever need to use the machine and also to use experimental beta linux distros without annoying my main machine

08:17 <ryaxnb21> it's a total garbage laptop  so it's great for doing things i don't care about

08:17 <ryaxnb21> :)

08:19 <ryaxnb21> you know what i find highly amusing?

08:19 <ryaxnb21> many people watching tanks for the memories didn't know that tortoises hibernate.

08:20 <ryaxnb21> MLP: Educational and Informative, even if you're an adult!

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08:21 <Electron> tssssss! do not say that word

08:21 <Ali> HIBERNATE

08:21 <Electron> party pooper

08:21 <Scherza> Hyper-doze.

08:22 <Ali> Bah

08:22 <init3> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE5BIEW2qpM

08:22 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

08:22 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Rainbro Fflash vs. Twilight Spork

08:22 <Ali> I remember in old cartoons they had a great gag name for sleeping pills

08:22 <init3> I don't know why but I felt I had to link that.

08:22 <init3> What was it Ali?

08:23 <init3> I do not remember

08:23 <Ali> In old Loony Toons and Tom and Jerry

08:24 <init3> I figured, I just didn't remember the name.

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08:25 * Pi yawns

08:26 <ryaxnb21>   even that it never actually mentioned it, MLP taught many people about the royal we.

08:26 <ryaxnb21> many people had to go look that up after luna referenced it in Luna Eclipsed.

08:26 <Ali> AND TO USE THIS MUCH VOLUME, WHEN ADDRESSING OUR SUBJECTS!!!!

08:26 * Scherza covers ears.

08:27 <ryaxnb21> royal canterlock voice

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08:37 <Knight_Dash> Hi, guys.

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09:07 <CleverDerpy> Knight_Dash, hiya

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09:13 <Knight_Dash> Hey, CleverDerpy.

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10:16 <Schism> I am sad.  They canceled Silent Hills.

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10:22 <LunaticHell> goooooooood morning, Neigh-therworld

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10:22 <LunaticHell> I'm the most Lunatic demon in the netherworld, a badflank freaking Overlord. *mad laughter*

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10:23 <LunaticHell> Oh hi Gigabait...*ahem* Gigabit

10:23 <Gigabit> ?

10:24 <LunaticHell> Hello *waves* how do you do?

10:24 <Gigabit> feel like dying

10:24 <LunaticHell> Hangover?

10:25 <Gigabit> no, personal stuff

10:25 <LunaticHell> Nuff awnser for me.

10:26 <LunaticHell> Wanna see something funny?

10:26 <LunaticHell> Watch dis! http://www.watchcartoononline.com/disgaea-episode-1-english-dubbed

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10:30 * LunaticHell instant boop/hugs The_Nostalgia_Mare

10:30 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Hai.

10:30 <LunaticHell> hi

10:30 <LunaticHell> I'm the Lunatic that throws ponies silly anime at their heads and see what sticks.

10:31 * LunaticHell throws "Disgaea" at The_Nostalgia_Mare's head.

10:31 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Meep!

10:31 * The_Nostalgia_Mare ducks.

10:33 <LunaticHell> You should watch it, it's funny.

10:33 <Schism> What, there's a Disgaea anime?

10:33 <LunaticHell> I have a link ready~

10:33 <LunaticHell> Yes, it's the animation of the first game.

10:33 * Electron swans

10:33 <Schism> Oh, just those animations?  Or do you mean that they took the plot of the first game and turned it into a full season?

10:33 <LunaticHell> It even has an english dub.

10:33 <LunaticHell> Yup.

10:33 <Schism> Or at least an OVA...

10:34 <Schism> OAV*

10:34 <LunaticHell> The plot of the entire game into 12 episodes.

10:34 <Schism> And huh.  I'll have to check it out sometime.

10:34 <fyrepony> i present to you : pinkies cronicles: china http://imgur.com/0syki0y

10:34 <LunaticHell> I have a link for the dubbed version, episodes clocks at the usual 24ish minutes.

10:35 <LunaticHell> Schism: I know what'll sweeten the deal for you.

10:35 <LunaticHell> Schism: It has an alternate ending, as far as I remember.

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10:35 <Schism> Ah, of course it does.  In the tradition of the very finest Atlus games.

10:36 <LunaticHell> The voice acting, even in the english dub, is rather well done.

10:36 <LunaticHell> While it pains me that not more Disgaea titles got their own animation, it still is nice to see one has been given extended TLC.

10:39 <LunaticHell> Flonne gets burried by rocks = nothing; Flonne gets hit by newspaper = ow that hurts :(

10:39 <Schism> Of course.  <3  Flonne really is like a mix between Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie.

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10:40 <LunaticHell> That's why we love her so much. ^^

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10:40 <LunaticHell> She's the assassin sent by heaven~

10:42 <Schism> !link flonne

10:42 <DerpyBot> Twilight says she doesn't have anything in the library about that

10:42 <Schism> What!

10:43 <Schism> That simply isn't true.

10:43 <Schism> !link http://derpibooru.org/160380

10:43 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about disgaea flonne safe fluttershy dress (and 1 more)

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10:54 <init3> Too many internets to sleep. How did I go from reading a book to watching "Ode to Joy" being sung by 10,000 people? I sometimes can't even remember what life was like before having the internet.

10:56 <LunaticHell> oh hi ini

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10:57 <LunaticHell> hehehe flutterflonne

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11:02 <LunaticHell> Schism: https://derpibooru.org/238021

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11:03 <LunaticHell> I still have to add a sin for having an empty holster

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11:07 <init3> Oh that artist is one of my favorites. She doesn't do poni art really anymore but she has a real unique way with hair. Especially in her Spitfire stuff.

11:09 <LunaticHell> I wish I had a Playstation 3, so I could play Disgaea D2 o. o

11:11 <Schism> Ohgood, the Comcast/TWC merger fell through.

11:11 <Electron> buy it

11:11 <Schism> LunaticHell: Nice!

11:12 <LunaticHell> Also I'd love to see Phantom Kingdom Portable *sigh* but no localisation. o3 o

11:15 <init3> Hue. Post on tumblr "Fun Fact: Despite spending 95% of her screentime as a human, Sunset Shimmer is somehow still best pony."

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11:15 <LunaticHell> huh, funny

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11:19 <FoodNibbler> LunaticHell, that anime is interesting, but I swear, Celestia is my witness, the voice of this angel is overly annoying

11:20 <LunaticHell> Now you know why Laharl is no annoyed by her. :P

11:20 <FoodNibbler> Nah that's anime in general

11:20 <Knight_Dash> I had a dream a few nights back where I was an angel.

11:21 <init3> Woah

11:21 <FoodNibbler> Maybe I am getting senile, but those 5yo voices get annoying at some point

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11:22 <init3> Angel? That would honestly disturb me greatly if I ever dreamed that.

11:22 <init3> Not even 100% sure why.

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11:22 <LunaticHell> Because you're a demon, that's why.

11:22 <Knight_Dash> It wasn't exactly in line with real world perception. Had more of a fantasy vibe to it. I might as well have been a wizard - Apart from the whole link to Heaven and God thing.

11:22 <LunaticHell> xP

11:23 <LunaticHell> be right back, gotta make breakfast

11:25 <FoodNibbler> This anime is too annoying to watch, have to forfeit

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11:26 <init3> Hmm

11:27 <init3> Maybe that's what would make me uneasy about it. I dunno.

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11:28 <init3> Cuz I've had dreams I could do crazy things but I suppose a link to a deity in that nature is something I don't think my sleeping mind could process.

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11:37 <LunaticHell> FoodNibbler: I'll eventually find the perfect anime for you...

11:37 <FoodNibbler> I did that myself already

11:37 <LunaticHell> Damn it, foild again.

11:37 <FoodNibbler> I have specifically watched 470+ to find one

11:37 <LunaticHell> Which one is it?

11:38 <FoodNibbler> I was actually searching one I saw as a kid, but along the way I found a lot of good ones

11:38 <FoodNibbler> Ghost in the Shell is my all time favourite

11:38 <LunaticHell> They're making a new season for that.

11:39 <LunaticHell> Either that or a remake, I'm not 100% sure.

11:39 <LunaticHell> http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/ghost-in-the-shell-arise-alternative-architecture-english-subbed

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11:44 <FoodNibbler> Then For different reasons: "Ergo Proxy", "Darker than black", "Black Lagoon", "Basilisk", "Kurau phantom memory", "Monster", "Samurai Champloo", "Texhnolyse", "Witch hunter Robin", "R.O.D.", Death Note", "Cowboy Beebop", "Kurenai", "Baccano"

11:44 <FoodNibbler> Yeah it is not exactly the same creators, so it is rather an homage to GitS

11:45 * LunaticHell uses his amasing analytical skills to predict other anime you might enjoy.

11:45 <FoodNibbler> Masamune Shirow said he is done

11:45 <LunaticHell> I dunno, the thing I linked is from 2015

11:46 <FoodNibbler> There is this japanese notion that if you made a masterpiece, there is no need to try and emulate it

11:46 <FoodNibbler> Sort of "quit while you're on top" logic

11:46 <LunaticHell> So, what is that thing, then?

11:47 <LunaticHell> according to wiki "a re-imagining of Masamune Shirow's Ghost in the Shell"

11:47 <FoodNibbler> Well it is a prequel, and I doubt Masamune Shirow is involved

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11:48 <LunaticHell> Well it's a re-imagining.

11:49 <FoodNibbler> Hopefully it will stay true to the original series, but I don'T have my hopes high

11:49 <LunaticHell> And no, he isn't involved, but as far as I watched it, it is pretty good.

11:49 <FoodNibbler> I mean it would be hard to match

11:50 <LunaticHell> I do not have a good enough memory to compare it to the original, but it does trigger some part of my brain, making me feel a bit nostalgic.

11:50 <FoodNibbler> Thing is: GitS had a deeper philosophy upon which the series is hinged, and this depth of writing that made it into an almost cult followed series

11:51 <LunaticHell> I watched the original when I was a kid...

11:51 <FoodNibbler> The series are slow (much like Texhnolyse), and it was made deliberately so by the author

11:52 <FoodNibbler> He had a chance to make it just action packed, but in fact Masamune Shirow had cut many action scenes out that were proposed by his team, leaving only necessary ones in

11:53 <FoodNibbler> There's more to this anime than just beautiful animations, action stuff and cybernetic future

11:53 <LunaticHell> Yeeeeah...the episodes I saw were noticably slow.

11:53 <LunaticHell> Anyhoof, check out this. https://derpiboo.ru/741632

11:54 <FoodNibbler> Ugh the human revolver again

11:56 <LunaticHell> human revolver?

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11:58 <Knight_Dash> Shouldn't that really be Applejack?

12:00 <Knight_Dash> Unless Celestia is taking a leaf from Dubya's playbook

12:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Early Morning Discussion #182 [ http://tinyurl.com/mtokbjh ]

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12:01 <LunaticHell> Knight_Dash: that figurine is basend on art by manamune shirow

12:02 <Knight_Dash> Ah, yes, I remember you linking something related to this before.

12:02 <LunaticHell> exactly

12:02 <Knight_Dash> But now - I'll be going. See you later, alligator!

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12:03 <LunaticHell> FoodNibbler: what human revolver?

12:04 <FoodNibbler> Ponies using weapons meant for human hands don't sit well with me

12:05 <LunaticHell> oh

12:05 <LunaticHell> Well anyhoof, have you seen Negima! ?

12:05 <LunaticHell> Or Negima!? ?

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12:10 * LunaticHell pokes FoodNibbler for a reaction

12:11 <Heartbreak> Lunatic

12:11 <Heartbreak> FoodNibbler!

12:11 <FoodNibbler> So far doesn't ring a bell this Negima

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12:11 <Heartbreak> Jet needs to know where to get an oversized tea cup...

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12:11 <LunaticHell> HB!

12:11 <Heartbreak> Cause he got this: http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/sabertooth1980/11064334_10152790305131247_2134487085_o_zps5vfw7hpe.jpg

12:12 <LunaticHell> Heartbreak: You should watch Negima!?

12:12 * Heartbreak noogies LunaticHell.

12:12 <Heartbreak> negima?

12:12 <FoodNibbler> Ok not my kind of anime just from the trailer

12:12 <LunaticHell> "Negima!?" The puncuation is important.

12:13 <FoodNibbler> I drink tea from an IKEA beer jug

12:13 <FoodNibbler> Works for me as an oversized tea cup

12:13 <LunaticHell> It's an anime about a young british wizard boy being the english teacher for an all female class in japan.

12:13 <FoodNibbler> http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10092216/

12:14 <FoodNibbler> This one

12:14 <FoodNibbler> Also made in russia

12:14 <LunaticHell> How does one spell that?

12:14 <LunaticHell> ...good thing I'm German...

12:14 <FoodNibbler> Mjöd

12:14 <FoodNibbler> Germans can spell this

12:14 <Heartbreak> Nibbler, that's for beer.

12:14 <Heartbreak> I need tea.

12:15 <FoodNibbler> It means "honey" in russian

12:15 <LunaticHell> Oooooh.

12:15 <FoodNibbler> Or mead in swedish

12:16 <FoodNibbler> Heartbreak, that one is made out of tough glass that holds hot drinks like a champ

12:16 <LunaticHell> This is the single first time I heard someone in an anime saying the word "bollocks"

12:16 <Heartbreak> Hmmm good point.

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12:16 <FoodNibbler> http://blog.englishteastore.com/2012/02/24/really-big-tea-mugs-and-cups/

12:16 <LunaticHell> ...I've officially seen everything now.

12:16 <Electron> oh, Ikea

12:16 <Heartbreak> FoodNibbler, did you see the hat?

12:16 <FoodNibbler> Or do you want something that looks like that

12:16 <FoodNibbler> ?

12:16 <Electron> I got these shops around

12:17 <FoodNibbler> LunaticHell, I heard "bollocks" in anime version of Sherlock Holmes

12:18 <LunaticHell> ...I've just recently seen an anime version of Sherlock Holmes, where he is a vampire and a fool...

12:18 <FoodNibbler> I have an ancient tea shop near me where there are all kinds of tea cups, oversized as well

12:18 <Heartbreak> http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/sabertooth1980/11064334_10152790305131247_2134487085_o_zps5vfw7hpe.jpg

12:18 <Heartbreak> Click that FoodNibbler.

12:18 <FoodNibbler> Yeah saw that one already

12:19 * LunaticHell boops Heartbreak I still think you should watch Negima!?

12:19 <LunaticHell> I dunno, I think you'll like it.

12:19 <Heartbreak> Jet now has his Creativi-tea and hat. All he needs now is a suit with oversized cuffs...

12:19 <Heartbreak> Blue and purple.

12:22 <FoodNibbler> Ultimately you could attend a pottery class and make your own cup

12:22 <LunaticHell> ...I won't ask.

12:22 <FoodNibbler> They should have a porcellain clay there too

12:25 * Schism rolls over to HB and offers a bit of chocolate chip cookie dough with fudge brownie ripple ice cream, topped with hot fudge.

12:27 <Heartbreak> oooooo

12:27 <Heartbreak> Fetting fet.

12:27 * Heartbreak noogies Schism.

12:28 * Schism flails!

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12:29 <fyrepony> just joined game clan for fun of it

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12:30 <fyrepony> ill get my microphone up as soon as i get money :P

12:30 <fyrepony> unfortunally there aint any professional gaming clans in my country

12:31 <fyrepony> so it got down to 2 options, either i join to international one or make one....annd making one is kinda hard work

12:31 <FoodNibbler> http://imgur.com/gallery/z5lwP4o

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12:34 <Schism> "I want an Emacs reference mug.  It would hold four gallons of coffee..."

12:39 <ArchPegasusMichael> I'd like to have a mug that would play MGS "ration consumed" sound when I finish the coffee

12:44 <LunaticHell> Heartbreak: http://imgur.com/gallery/SzvTsB7

12:50 <Heartbreak> Neat

12:50 * Heartbreak pies LunaticHell.

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12:52 <KooK> Uhg, class

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13:09 <The> Hi...Im lonely

13:10 <The> literally

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13:12 <Heartbreak> https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8485060608/h414348E7/

13:12 * Heartbreak starts poking at Lonely.

13:12 <Electron> hi, Literally Lonely

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13:12 * Electron applauds

13:13 <Knight_Dash> Yoo.

13:13 <Knight_Dash> Schism, do you have a sec?

13:14 * Lonely scoots over

13:15 <Lonely> I'm at school playing Banned from Equestria right now...

13:16 <Knight_Dash> What's that?

13:16 <Lonely> Oh not for little ponies...

13:17 <Knight_Dash> Gotcha.

13:17 <Schism> Please don't discuss such things in this channel, which is rated PG at worst.

13:17 <Schism> Knight_Dash, whatcha need?

13:18 <Lonely> I was jus sayin

13:18 <Electron> forbidden threads?

13:18 <Electron> unacceptable

13:18 <Lonely> ?

13:18 <Lonely> derp

13:18 <Lonely> bye

13:18 <Knight_Dash> So, Schism. Since you're a fanfic aficionado and all, I was wondering whether you'd know of any fics that match a certain description I'm thinking of.

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13:18 <Schism> Entirely possible.

13:19 <Knight_Dash> Namely - Any fics where it's revealed that Fluttershy's shy/timid persona is all a facade (this being a focal point of the fic's story)?

13:19 <Knight_Dash> Preferably tying into the fact that we've never seen any members of her family.

13:19 <Knight_Dash> Or have yet to, anyway.

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13:20 <Schism> Mmm, I'm afraid that I don't think so.  The closest I've seen is the standard 'silk hiding steel' which is a canon part of Fluttershy's personality.

13:20 <Knight_Dash> So no deliberate facade fics?

13:21 <Knight_Dash> Well, okay. Thank you.

13:21 <Schism> None that I've seen; sorry.

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13:23 <Raritea> Dammit it seems every brilliant idea in gun design was already done at some point

13:24 * Heartbreak pokes at Raritea.

13:24 * Heartbreak poke poke poke poke pokes.

13:24 <Raritea> I am like yay I has some kewl idea... googles it and womp womp woooomp, it was done and the idea is baaad mkay

13:24 <Raritea> Hey why are you poking me?

13:24 <Heartbreak> For science.

13:24 <Raritea> Ok den

13:25 <Electron> we do what we must because we can

13:25 <Heartbreak> For the good of Raritea.

13:26 <Electron> rare it tea

13:27 <Schism> You've gotta face it.  There's no idea in gun design more ingenious and inventive than a rifled barrel.

13:28 <Heartbreak> How about a double barrel muffin gun?

13:30 <Schism> Careful now.  As the fic said, "Shotgun is not to be used to distribute party supplies."

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13:30 <Schism> "While we appreciate the business, please do not stash shotguns around town in case of shotgun emergency."

13:31 <ArchPegasusMichael> Schism: what about mortars?

13:31 <Electron> as if someone obeys the rules

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13:44 <Pi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL9SLXPmoko

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13:50 * Nelly hugs Electron for saying that.

13:50 * Electron oompf

13:56 <Nelly> "For the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead."

13:57 * Nelly is late..

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14:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Fashion Season / The Mare and the Tortoise / TBOI 65 / Forever and a Day 1:8 / Moody Mark Crusaders 47 [ http://tinyurl.com/mf3qulp ]

14:05 <Knight_Dash> So. I found out recently that Aunt and Uncle Orange actually do show up in Apple Family Reunion. This smashes my reasonably thought out headcanon.

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14:06 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

14:07 <Knight_Dash> Hey, Thelema. :)

14:08 <Thelema5> What's new?

14:08 <Knight_Dash> Good question.

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14:10 <DARK> hello =)

14:11 <Thelema5> Hi, DARK.  :)

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14:12 <Thelema5> Woah, imgur has started using captchas?

14:12 <Thelema5> What a bummer.

14:14 <Thelema5> So as we speak a crew of laborers and some heavy equipment is tearing up my back yard: http://i.imgur.com/7OskIGH.jpg

14:14 <Thelema5> This is not a fun thing.  :p

14:15 <OctaveSymphony> Thelema5, ask to drive it.

14:15 <OctaveSymphony> It's a lot of fun.

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14:15 <Thelema5> Nuh uh.

14:16 <OctaveSymphony> Aw, why not

14:16 <Thelema5> Because my insurance doesn't cover acts of stupidity.

14:16 <Thelema5> XD

14:17 <OctaveSymphony> Well don't damage anything, just... dig a hole.

14:17 <OctaveSymphony> Diggy diggy hole.

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14:17 <Thelema5> That big pile of dirt in the photo /was/ my herb garden.  :(

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14:18 <Knight_Dash> Aww.

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14:20 <Schism> What the absolute CRAP?  http://tinyurl.com/kfekvhp - Quebec girl told that reading books on school bus is potentially hazardous.

14:21 <ArchPegasusMichael> School ruins mental and physical health anyway XD

14:21 <Thelema5> Schism, she must have been wearing a long black skirt at the time.

14:22 <Raritea> It is, you might get bumped by the corner of the book when bus hits the pothole, or even worse a PAPERCUT!

14:22 <Knight_Dash> I don't get it, Thelema.

14:22 <Knight_Dash> Also, according to the thing Schism linked: "She says she was told reading posed a risk to other students on the bus.He suggested they might stand up to see what she was reading, or she might poke herself in the eye with the corners of the book. "

14:23 <Knight_Dash> ("He" being the bus driver)

14:23 <Schism> If other students had actually asked me 'what are you reading', I'd have been thrilled.

14:23 <Raritea> Well she might have bee a goth and decorated her book with a few spikes XD

14:23 <Thelema5> Knight_Dash, it was a reference to a recent story out of France regarding "religious garb" in schools.

14:23 <Knight_Dash> Ah.

14:24 <Knight_Dash> Ah.

14:24 <Thelema5> This is concerning: "Abel complained to the school board, which deferred to the driver"

14:25 <Thelema5> Isn't the school board there to act as an authority over these people?

14:26 <Sketchy_Sounds> Consider just how dangerous this world is! You might...

14:26 <Sketchy_Sounds> Slip and fall, break or sprain something here tonight

14:26 <Sketchy_Sounds> But luckily for you, we've got the thing you need!

14:26 <Sketchy_Sounds> And it's easier when all you need's the cure~

14:26 <Schism> Is it a gigantic hamster ball?

14:26 <Sketchy_Sounds> The Flim Flam Miracle Curative Tonic

14:26 <Schism> Or that.

14:26 <Sketchy_Sounds> Is just what the doctor ordered, I'm sure !

14:26 <Thelema5> :p

14:27 <Sketchy_Sounds> I'm reminded of that when looking at that story

14:27 <Thelema5> Good call.

14:27 <Sketchy_Sounds> But yeah it's like hey, know what's an even bigger safety risk? NO SEATBELTS ON THE BUSSES.

14:28 <ArchPegasusMichael> ^

14:29 <OctaveSymphony> Busses here have seatbelts, most don't use them though, police must be so happy every time they stop a bus to check

14:29 <Sketchy_Sounds> Heck, I remember very clearly when I was a kid how seatbelts got introduced on school busses over here. Just for some perspective, I turned 30 last year, and this is when I was, what, about eight or nine years old.

14:29 <Schism> But seatbelts are ex/pensive/, Sketchy!

14:30 <Sketchy_Sounds> So they've already been the norm over here for over twenty years now.

14:30 <Raritea> German public busses have no seatbelts, aside from intercity ones

14:31 <Raritea> But that's what makes the town busses so slow

14:32 <Sketchy_Sounds> Well interestingly enough, public service busses over here are still not obligated to have passenger restraints. However, busses for private hire by law must have belts - most likely because those are the ones used by schools to ferry children out on field trips and so forth./

14:33 <Sketchy_Sounds> I dunno what the situation is with the school busses in the US, whether they're technically privately hired or whether they're provided as a public service, but it still seems strange to me that vehicles which will carry large numbers of children are allowed to do so with minimal safety features.

14:35 <Raritea> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNSVSdl2SWo

14:35 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

14:35 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about school bus tips over

14:35 <Raritea> Weird that they don't have seatbelts even after this kind of stuff

14:36 <OctaveSymphony> Think all busses have seatbelts here these days, even inner city ones

14:36 <Schism> There's nothing quite as difficult to change as an entrenched bureaucracy.

14:36 <Schism> And of course, it would cost SO MUCH money to have the school board put seatbelts on everything.

14:39 <Raritea> The way american campaigns go, they will end up putting seatbelts on school chairs and toilets too, because "war on safety" and whole nine yards

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14:43 <LunaticHell> I have returned.

14:43 <LunaticHell> oh hey, Sketchy_Sounds, it's good to see you, I have found something cool yesterday.

14:45 <LunaticHell> A 50th Anniversary 50 Pence coin of the NHS was hiding amongst my collection of random coins.

14:45 <Thelema5> NHS?

14:46 <ArchPegasusMichael> British public healthcare

14:47 <Thelema5> Thanks, that what I suspected... just wasn't sure why they'd be coining money.  :p

14:47 * Schism found a sixpence just the other day for whatever obscure reason.

14:47 <Raritea> There are coins commemorating weirdest of things

14:47 <LunaticHell> They had coins coin'd for them.

14:47 <Thelema5> XD

14:47 <Raritea> My relative is collecting coins, I heard stories from him

14:48 <LunaticHell> Yeah, I got a place in my town where you can re-coin coins to make them memorial coins.

14:48 <LunaticHell> 50 tons of pressure should be enough to do that.

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14:48 <Raritea> You can order to have special and official coins for the right price in Germany

14:48 <LunaticHell> I know, I still remember the 10 DM coins.

14:49 <User_860> I have a bunch of old pokemon cards. Do you think I'd get a lot of money for them if I sold em?

14:49 <Raritea> But it starts with 1000Eur order

14:49 <Raritea> So not for poor folks

14:49 <Thelema5> User, you might be better off asking in a pokemon chat.

14:49 <LunaticHell> Also I own a 1 rubles olympic games coin.

14:49 <Thelema5> Neat!

14:49 <LunaticHell> ...the olympic games of 1977, mind you.

14:50 <Raritea> We had our coin collection stolen by "guests from middle asia"

14:50 <LunaticHell> So not the Russian olympic games, but the CCCP olympic games. xD

14:50 <LunaticHell> Huh...what's the airquotes from?

14:50 <LunaticHell> for*

14:51 <Raritea> We had a bunch of Tsaristic coins dug out in our yard, a few special ocasion soviet coins and a few modern ones, including 2 silver coins

14:51 <LunaticHell> Cool.

14:51 <LunaticHell> You can get real silver coins in the USA with a simple trick.

14:51 * Thelema5 has a metal detector and isn't afraid to use it

14:51 <Raritea> They only managed to steal those and a few keys

14:52 <LunaticHell> Without buying them.

14:52 <LunaticHell> That's sad, about the coins.

14:53 <LunaticHell> Just go to a bank and ask to exchange money for coins prited before... (I dunno which exact year, but one can google that, teehee) and you have the chance to get a silver coin with more than 70% silver.

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14:55 <ArchPegasusMichael> LunaticHell: I wonder why they'd be still stored in banks' safes as regular currency

14:55 <LunaticHell> No idea.

14:56 <LunaticHell> Maybe printing new would be too expensive? Fear of inflation?

14:56 <LunaticHell> ...ok fine that actually was two ideas.

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15:00 <Thelema5> Well, that was random.  I just met these musicians:

15:00 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/MJCaFe1yamg

15:00 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

15:00 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Fishbone - Party At Ground Zero

15:01 <Thelema5> Nice guys, although a bit older than I expected.

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15:05 <User_860> I probably won't get much money for them, will I?

15:05 <Thelema5> I guess this video is from the late 80's after all.

15:07 <User_860> hi

15:08 <Thelema5> User, I doubt anyone here can value your pokeman cards.

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15:09 <Thelema5> You should try finding a pokemon chat, forum, or value guide.

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15:15 <Dulset> How bothersome...

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15:17 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Clip of "Appleoosa's Most Wanted" Appears!  [ http://tinyurl.com/mqln7du ]

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15:24 <Knight_Dash> Soon.

15:25 <Knight_Dash> I ate Skittles with last week's episode. I wonder if I should drink some apple juice with this one?

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15:27 <Dulset> Hello again KooK

15:27 <KooK> It's been like, 12 hours, are you still 'discussing?'

15:27 <Thelema5> :p

15:28 <Dulset> What if I say yes?

15:28 <Dulset> (actually I've been sleeping)

15:28 <KooK> Then I'll leave

15:28 <Thelema5> Kook, don't leave.  We like having you here.

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15:29 <KooK> I'm not going to watch the chatroom blow up with nothing but nick-picking about things that don't matter.

15:29 <Dulset> Might be a safe idea, with people falsely reporting others lately

15:29 <Dulset> But I think they left to troll somewhere else

15:29 * Thelema5 picks nits from KooK's mane

15:31 <Thelema5> My workplace is turning in to a hippie festival!

15:31 <Thelema5> It already smells like marijuana and patchuli.

15:34 <KooK> what is going on at your hotel?

15:34 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/Wgf9f0y63xo

15:34 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

15:34 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about RRRv5 Promo Video

15:34 <Thelema5> Jam band music festival.

15:35 <Dulset> Derpybot, you're alive! :o

15:36 <Thelema5> No, derpybot is a bot.

15:37 <Dulset> oh...

15:37 <Dulset> :(

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15:46 * Thelema5 waves to everypony who has recently joined the chat

15:48 * Dulset waves back awkwardly before realizing you weren't waving to me

15:49 * Electron waves

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15:50 <Dulset> everyone do the wave

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15:53 * DataByteBrony does the flop

15:53 <Thelema5> Kook, are you running two different nicks in here?

15:53 <KooK> Not that I'm aware of, why?

15:56 <Thelema5> Your client ident and electron's client ident are the both quassel

15:57 <KooK> Granted, Quassel is a rare beast to find other people using :P

15:57 <Thelema5> So just a coincidence.

15:58 * Electron is a bit confused

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16:04 <Thelema5> No worries, Electron.  I've just never seen anypony else using the Quassel IRC client before.

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16:11 * Thelema5 loads a party cannon with hundreds of tiny, tiny Princess Twilight Sparkle plushies and FIRES

16:11 <CloverTheClever> quassel is a nice client, darnit

16:12 <Thelema5> I'll have to check it out for myself!

16:13 <Thelema5> ...and now the fire alarm is sounding.

16:13 * Thelema5 exits the building

16:14 <Scherza> Pffff.

16:14 <Scherza> You're tough. You can survive a building fire.

16:15 <TimidClef> Ack, be careful Thelema5!

16:16 <Knight_Dash> Attack of Sweetie Belle

16:16 <Dulset> Shouldn't have left the toaster running!

16:16 <KooK> They robbing you!

16:16 <KooK> They in your desk, looking at the screen right now going 'wtf?'

16:17 <KooK> YEAH THAT'S RIGHT, I CAN SEE YOU WITH THAT BEANIE ON!  YOU ON CAMERA

16:18 <Scherza> Scawy.

16:19 <KooK> I've been robbed a couple of times on the job

16:21 <Thelema5> False alarm... it was a leak in the sprinkler system.

16:22 <Thelema5> Have you really been robbed, KooK?

16:22 <KooK> Thelema5 - you got robbed

16:22 <Thelema5> That's scary.  I was shot at once, but from a distance.

16:22 <KooK> Just for thousands of dollars worth of crap.

16:22 <KooK> never actually been shot at though

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16:23 <Thelema5> That's good.

16:23 <Thelema5> Lets keep everypony safe!

16:24 <KooK> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P18PaDr9VWs

16:24 <Thelema5> XD

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16:25 * FlufflyClouds is a funny looking pegasi

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16:27 * FlufflyClouds boops LiquidSunshine

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16:28 <LiquidSunshine> oh thelema :P

16:28 <Thelema5> XD

16:28 <LiquidSunshine> You where undercover

16:28 * LiquidSunshine boops back

16:28 <Thelema5> Incognito!

16:28 <LiquidSunshine> Spylema

16:29 <Thelema5> Soooo.... does anypony know what's going on with EQD?

16:29 <LiquidSunshine> Is there somth wring with it?

16:29 <LiquidSunshine> wrong*

16:30 <Thelema5> The last few days, posts are receiving only a handful of comments.

16:30 <LiquidSunshine> Like, fewer than before?

16:30 *** Cloud_Zephyr|Away is now known as Cloud_Zephyr

16:30 <Thelema5> Last season, new posts were greeted with hundreds of comments.  Now?  Maybe 10 or 15.

16:31 <LiquidSunshine> Holy moly, true

16:31 <Thelema5> It's... unsettling.

16:31 <LiquidSunshine> The one with a clip of staurday's episode has only 61

16:32 <LiquidSunshine> I've only seen high activity on the discussions, as always

16:32 <Thelema5> Yeah.

16:32 <LiquidSunshine> And in the normal daily posts

16:32 <LiquidSunshine> Still, not the ammount of comments I would expect in posts realted to season 5

16:33 <Thelema5> Spotlight music: 8 comments.

16:33 <Thelema5> 8?  Wow.

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16:37 <KooK> yawnage

16:37 <KooK> I WAS THERE WHEN BACK TO THE FUTURE 1 CAME OUT!

16:37 <KooK> You people have nothing to look forward to in October

16:38 <KooK> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1i5coU-0_Q

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16:48 <LiquidSunshine> What do you think is the reason Thelema5 ??

16:48 <Dulset> Hype dying down?

16:48 <Skippez_Shadow> So is rd a special line if ppegasus (more theory)

16:48 <Dulset> Has the traffic not been gradually falling since season 2?

16:49 <Dulset> Line? Like bloodline?

16:49 <Skippez_Shadow> Genetic so yeah

16:49 <Dulset> I doubt she has any special pedigree, but I do believe that only a rainbow pegasus can do a sonic rainboom

16:50 <Skippez_Shadow> Like rd's dad

16:50 <Dulset> It seems really obvious to me but a lot of people I talk to say that anyone could do it if they were fast enough.

16:50 <Dulset> which baffles me

16:51 <LiquidSunshine> Na

16:51 <LiquidSunshine> She is a normal one

16:51 <LiquidSunshine> She just has this special talent

16:51 <LiquidSunshine> That's why her cutiemark

16:51 <Skippez_Shadow> The hair isn't normal

16:51 <Skippez_Shadow> But that's about it

16:52 <LiquidSunshine> Everypony has a different color of hair

16:52 <Skippez_Shadow> Well, yes and no

16:52 <Skippez_Shadow> But that no is aobvious

16:53 <Scherza> Most ponies only have 1-2 natural colours in their hair.

16:53 <Scherza> IIRC, Twilight dyes the streaks into hers.

16:53 <Dulset> phew

16:53 <Dulset> Heh, she says later it's natural, but she liiies

16:53 <Skippez_Shadow> Um, well no

16:53 <Dulset> Twilight, I mean

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16:54 <Skippez_Shadow> Look at her mother

16:54 <Scherza> Well, if she said it, then so be it. Also, Skippez, that is no proof. Her mother may have been the reason she started to dye them.

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16:55 <Skippez_Shadow> Do they even have hair dye in equestria?

16:55 <LiquidSunshine> I bet they have

16:55 <Scherza> Mayor Mare.

16:55 <Dulset> Ponyville Confidential shows her dyeing

16:55 * LiquidSunshine goes to play Smash

16:55 <Scherza> Mayor Mare dyes her pink hair white.

16:55 <Skippez_Shadow> Plus she probably doesn't need to dye coz' magic pricess

16:56 <Skippez_Shadow> Princess*

16:56 <Dulset> that's kind of hilarious

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16:56 <Dulset> But yeah multiple people have actually told me that because Dash is the only one who can do a sonic rainboom, that proves that she's the fastest pegasus in the world :|

16:58 <Knight_Dash> *late* The mane-dying thing. I remember from Twilight Time Diamond Tiara asks who dyes her mane or something like that but Twilight says that it isn'

16:58 <Knight_Dash> isn't dyed and that it's her natural color.

16:58 <Skippez_Shadow> You know the pinkie pie is adopted thing with pinkie could be closer to aj's line that thought?

16:58 <Knight_Dash> I don't see why we should doubt Twilight on that.

16:59 <Dulset> Normally you'd be right, but we actually see it being dyed

16:59 <Skippez_Shadow> Eh!?

16:59 <Skippez_Shadow> Where?

17:00 <Dulset> http://i.imgur.com/7Iflz.jpg

17:01 <LiquidSunshine> There you go

17:01 <Skippez_Shadow> Have you seen some of the similarity between pinkie and bloom?

17:02 <LiquidSunshine> pinkie and blom?

17:02 <Skippez_Shadow> It's my personal thing about the pie, and apple lines

17:02 <Dulset> You know, if the Apples and Oranges are cousins, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Pies and Cakes were related.

17:02 <Skippez_Shadow> http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140113101435/mlp/images/f/f9/Pinkie_Pie_together_with_Apple_Bloom_S4E09.png

17:03 <Skippez_Shadow> Plus, isn't their apple pie?

17:03 <Skippez_Shadow> There*

17:04 <Dulset> There's apple cake too :o

17:04 <Knight_Dash> Speaking of the Apples and Oranges, I found out recently that Aunt and Uncle Orange actually do appear in Apple Family Reunion. I had some reasonably thought-out headcanon that relied on the assumption that they *don't* show up in that episode

17:04 <Knight_Dash> and now that headcanon is wrecked.

17:04 <Knight_Dash> I basically assumed that the Oranges were the *other* side of the family, as in Applejack's other parent

17:04 <Knight_Dash> was an Orange.

17:04 <Dulset> Yeah I missed them the first time I watched and was pretty disappointed

17:04 <Skippez_Shadow> Don't google mlp apple pie

17:05 <Dulset> but then I saw they were there@

17:05 <Skippez_Shadow> http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/mlp-gameloft/images/8/8d/Apple_Pie_vector.png/revision/latest?cb=20141214232120

17:05 <Dulset> Speaking of the Oranges

17:05 <Dulset> I really wish they'd called back to that when AJ was acting all highfalutin in Simple Ways

17:05 <Knight_Dash> I had more to the headcanon than that. Like, Babs Seed lives in Manehattan too but apparently isn't Aunt and Uncle Orange's daughter; So I imagined that this might be how AJ's parents met - The Apple parent was visiting the Manehattan Apples and while there...

17:06 <Dulset> Why do you say she isn't an Orange?

17:06 <Knight_Dash> Well, someone tweeted asking if Babs Seed was Aunt and Uncle Orange's daughter

17:06 <Knight_Dash> and the response was "Not that I know of?"

17:07 <Dulset> I think she's an Orange

17:07 <Knight_Dash> Besides, Aunt and Uncle Orange are "high class" types while Babs has a more... not so high class New Yorker accent.

17:08 <Dulset> That's true

17:09 <Dulset> But isn't it likely there are more Oranges in the city?

17:09 * LiquidSunshine hugs Knight_Dash

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17:09 <Skippez_Shadow> I wouldn't be surprised if babs or even the apple family are hasbro's interpretation of a black family but that might go racially controversial

17:09 <Dulset> Here's a clever little tidbit ;)

17:10 * Vulpor walks in humming pink fluffy unicorns

17:10 <Knight_Dash> I dunno, Dulset; The fact that Aunt and Uncle Orange showed up in Apple Family Reunion and thus are apparently counted as part of the Apple family

17:10 <Thelema5> PFUDOR!

17:10 <LiquidSunshine> YEAAAAH

17:10 <Skippez_Shadow> WATERMELOWN FAM CONFIRMED!?

17:10 <Dulset> Remember during the Babs Seed song, there are decorative seeds alternating between black and white?

17:10 <Thelema5> Let's do this little dragon!

17:10 <LiquidSunshine> Yesterda, i had all of my friends humming that song XD

17:10 <Skippez_Shadow> Dulset, haha...

17:11 <Dulset> Apples have black seeds

17:11 <Dulset> Oranges have white seeds

17:11 <Vulpor> why are we so excited for a watermelon farm?

17:11 <Skippez_Shadow> Watermelons have black seeds

17:11 <Thelema5> Vulpor, I was just excited over nothing in particular.

17:11 <Vulpor> oh ok then :D

17:11 <Knight_Dash> But of course, since Aunt and Uncle Orange are presumably married (though I guess that's not explicitly said so they could theoretically be brother and sister, I'm going to assume they're married) that means that while one of them is AJ's blood relative, the other orange is only related by marriage and may thus have other Orange relatives of her/his own.

17:12 <Thelema5> I blame the EDM and the marijuana smoke in my workplace.

17:12 <Skippez_Shadow> Edm?

17:12 <Thelema5> Electronic Dance Music

17:13 <Skippez_Shadow> PLUS, why the hell is there weed smoke in your workplace?

17:13 <Thelema5> ... there's a music festival taking place at the hotel I work at.

17:13 <LiquidSunshine> Dude, AJ's family is as extensive as all the knowledge

17:13 <LiquidSunshine> SWEET Thelema5 !!!!

17:14 <LiquidSunshine> I would totally love to go to an EDM festival

17:14 <Thelema5> It's half EDM, half jam-band

17:14 <LiquidSunshine> Even niceer

17:14 <Thelema5> This: https://youtu.be/Wgf9f0y63xo

17:14 <Dulset> I have a stupidly sad headcanon about AJ's parents ;P

17:14 <LiquidSunshine> Whats their name

17:15 <Thelema5> There's like 40 bands playing.

17:15 <Skippez_Shadow> I'm really stupid to know that there's jack and mac

17:15 <Skippez_Shadow> The similarity in sound

17:15 <Thelema5> And hundreds of people milling about openly smoking marijuana.

17:16 <Knight_Dash> What is it, Dulset?

17:16 <Thelema5> and the festival hasn't even officially started yet, this is just the lead-in.

17:17 <Dulset> Wellllll...

17:17 <Dulset> You know about the shooting stars, right?

17:17 <Skippez_Shadow> Ooooooh

17:17 <Skippez_Shadow> I'm not sure this is gonna be good

17:17 <Dulset> oh it's not

17:18 <Knight_Dash> Yeah, go on..

17:18 <LiquidSunshine> I mean, the name of the fest

17:18 <Dulset> AJ's parents were astronauts

17:18 <Dulset> They wanted to make it to the reunion

17:18 <LiquidSunshine> Oh I see

17:18 <Skippez_Shadow> and dead?

17:18 <Dulset> They did their best to make it back to Equestria in time, but the reentry friction...

17:18 <Skippez_Shadow> Or just lost

17:19 <Dulset> suddenly two shooting stars

17:19 <LiquidSunshine> Got caught on fire??

17:19 * Thelema5 blinks

17:19 <Skippez_Shadow> Re-entry burning

17:19 <Knight_Dash> Astronauts?

17:19 <Skippez_Shadow> Jesus

17:19 <LiquidSunshine> niice

17:19 <Dulset> I didn't say it was a good headcanon

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17:20 <Skippez_Shadow> Just sad

17:21 <Thelema5> Astronauts? Really?  We've seen nothing in Equestria which would lead us to suppose the ponies had anywhere near the level of technical sophistication to create a space program.

17:21 <Thelema5> Luna notwithstanding.

17:23 * Scherza snickers at the literalism.

17:24 * Scherza thinkythoughts. "What if Applejack's Parents released Nightmare Moon?"

17:24 <Skippez_Shadow> WHA

17:25 <Skippez_Shadow> Parents are lutanic conflabbed

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17:29 <Dulset> Want another wacky headcanon?

17:29 <Dulset> It's not sad this time

17:29 <Scherza> I like wacky.

17:30 <Scherza> Is this like Sweetie Belle's dad being a retired police officer?

17:31 <Dulset> what no

17:31 <Dulset> Ok so

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17:32 <Dulset> In episode 2 Pinkie says she had a "Grammy Pie" who taught her to laugh

17:32 <Dulset> And in Too Many Pinkie Pies she mentions a "Nanna Pinkie" who told her stories of the mirror pool

17:32 <Dulset> If we assume that they're the same pony, that pony's name would be Pinkie Pie

17:33 <Scherza> Yeah. Most people assume that. Assume that Pinkie was named after her grandma.

17:33 * Schism takes his dead disposable phone, disposes of the battery, removes the MicroSD card, and snaps the SIM card in half. "Hum. There's for that."

17:34 * Thelema5 gawks at Schism

17:34 <Dulset> But you see, sometime in the future as an older mare, Pinkie goes back in time and meets her young filly self. Without supportive parents to teach her about her quirks, she becomes a surrogate grandmother to teach her things like laughter and stories and how her Pinkie Sense works

17:34 <Scherza> A few madponies then claim that Pinkie is a time-traveller and thus her own grandma.

17:34 <Ethera> No glorious Viking funeral for the dead phone, Schism?

17:34 <Dulset> Either that or she actually IS her own grandmother

17:34 <Schism> Thelema5: What?  It's not worked since I moved up to Canada a year and a half ago, and I figured I'd finally dispose of the thing.

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17:35 <Thelema5> Oh, heh.  I thought it might be momentarily malfunctioning.

17:35 <Schism> Ethera: Eh, aluminium and iron oxide aren't readily available to me right now, and I don't want my landlord yelling at me for turning my balcony into a funeral pyre.

17:35 <Scherza> But nah. I prefer it with Pinkie's grandma Pinkie not likewise being the same pinkie, but rather a different Pinkie from an era before.

17:35 <Schism> In her youth, she was named Surprise... <.<

17:36 <Snapai> Oh sweet, Bernie Sanders is running for US prez!! :D

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17:37 <SmallSkippeZ> OOOh Snapai?

17:37 <Dulset> I also think the Pies are very pureblooded earth ponies but that doesn't really amount to anything

17:37 <Snapai> The news doesn't think he can win, but wait til they see what the internet does with this. :D

17:37 <SmallSkippeZ> So are the applez

17:37 <Fall> Hello, Coco_Nut

17:37 <Ethera> Ah, fair point Schism, no need to incur the wrath of the landlord.

17:37 <Coco_Nut> Hi

17:37 <SmallSkippeZ> Ooh, fall and Coco_Nut's on

17:38 <SmallSkippeZ> So i'll say hai to both

17:38 <Fall> Well you failed, because "fall" with a small "f" dunt ping me.

17:38 <Thelema5> Snapai, the internet didn't do much for Gary Johnson in 2012.

17:38 <Schism> I suppose I /could/ give it a worthy sendoff in the graveyard that's literally a minute's walk away, but I'd fear angering the ghosts of ages past.

17:39 <Schism> And I do mean ages - there are stones marking well over a century and a half of deceased residents.

17:39 <Thelema5> Schism, hardly seems worth the risk.

17:39 <Snapai> Yeaaah, but I think Bernie has a better chance. Or at least, he will force Hilary out of parroting her Wall-Street-approved script :B

17:40 <Thelema5> Wow.  The ham I'm eating is every bit as delicious as the commercial said.

17:40 <Schism> This is going to be an interesting presidential race.  I'm going to grab my popcorn with sea salt, garlic and sriracha, and hold my passport close at hand in case I need to flee overseas.

17:40 <LiquidSunshine> lolololololololol

17:40 <Ethera> What ham is this, Thelema5?

17:40 <SmallSkippeZ> What? A commercial gets it right about food?

17:41 <Thelema5> https://boarshead.com/products/ham/11005-black-forest-beechwood-smoked-ham

17:41 <Thelema5> May be the best ham sandwich I've ever had!

17:41 <SmallSkippeZ> Plus, who has a good knowledge ofpiano

17:41 <SmallSkippeZ> Of piano?*

17:41 <Ethera> Indeed, that is one of the better Boar's Head products.

17:42 <Schism> I'm moderately familiar with the pianoforte.  What question have ye?

17:42 <Snapai> I'm thinking Bernie might be the presidential equivalent of Kshama Sawant. Doubted by the press, but manages to run a massive grassroots campaign, and winds up sweeping the polls :D

17:42 <Thelema5> That would be interesting to see, Snapai.

17:43 <SmallSkippeZ> What is the style where the 2 keys below of a chord is played after/before the note of choice but still makes the sound of song?

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17:44 <Schism> Which two keys, and which chord?

17:44 <Snapai> And, unlike most popular 3rd party candidates, he's smart enough to join a main-party primary instead, so he won't wind up diluting the races.

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17:45 <Thelema5> Well, Rand Paul has pretty much doomed his chances by doing the same thing.

17:45 <SmallSkippeZ> E.g: 3 minutes into this (approx) https://youtube.com/watch?v=m41N8U0g180

17:46 <SmallSkippeZ> Schism: you'll know what i'm on about when you see it

17:46 <Schism> It's interesting...

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17:46 <Knight_Dash> Reading lines... Moved up to Canada? Oh, so you're not actually Canadian, Schism?

17:46 <SmallSkippeZ> It goes on for about 40 seconds

17:46 <Schism> Of course I am.  I moved /back/ to Canada.

17:46 <Thelema5> :p

17:46 <Knight_Dash> Ah.

17:47 <Snapai> Thelema5, true, if someone doesn't make it through the primary, their campaign is dead in the water, but the national vote is damaged by 3rd party candidates coz we use FPTP/single-mark voting.

17:47 <Schism> I like how Sanders is trying to generate broad-base appeal instead of sticking solely with Democratic voters.  The income disparity is a very strong card to play in today's day and age.

17:47 <Thelema5> But no candidate with a fresh voice is EVER going secure the support of a main party.

17:47 <SmallSkippeZ> So Schism do you know what it is?

17:48 <Schism> He could ... probably do better than to describe himself as a socialist, however.

17:48 <Schism> One tick.

17:48 <Schism> I fear I do not know the terminology there, SmallSkippeZ.

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17:49 <SmallSkippeZ> Hmmm....

17:49 <Snapai> Schism, he describes himself as a democratic socialist.

17:49 <Snapai> That's a different political ideology. :p

17:49 <Schism> Yeah, because the base on the right is /totally/ going to believe that.

17:49 <Snapai> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_of_clones_criterion - this is why joining one of the two main parties is smart.

17:49 <SmallSkippeZ> I've applied for prez

17:50 <Snapai> If he can undo the voting apathy in the US, convincing the right might not matter.

17:50 <Schism> That's true, and he does seem a very impassioned gent.

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17:50 <Snapai> Only 54.9% of eligible voters voted in 2012.

17:51 *** Reia_Sleep is now known as Reia_Work

17:51 <Snapai> 2008 was 57.1%.

17:52 <Schism> I would not be surprised if much of that 45.1% were of the youth.

17:52 <SmallSkippeZ> Because not as many ppl give a crap anymore XD

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17:52 <Snapai> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections

17:52 <Ethera> The whole electoral college thing kinda puts a damper on things.

17:52 *** Parts: Vibrance (nbhokposxwp@AnActualChangeling) ()

17:52 <Snapai> SmallSkippeZ, yeah, it's because the current democratic model relies on apathy.

17:52 <Dulset> Oligarchy

17:52 <SmallSkippeZ> What's that?

17:52 <SmallSkippeZ> Apathy?

17:52 <Snapai> People think they're being "rebellious" by not voting, and they're actually playing right into the system.

17:53 <Dulset> apathy means not caring

17:53 <Snapai> apathy: not caring. "whatever."

17:53 <Schism> The desire of a populace not to care about issues which they feel don't involve them.

17:53 <Snapai> https://vimeo.com/11478652

17:53 <SkyHighAway> :P

17:53 <Schism> Which is a very powerful externalization of costs.

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17:54 * SkyHighAway flies around. "If apathy means 'not caring', it must be my middle name!" (Not in any against the chat thing :P)

17:55 <Schism> You would think that, at the very least, the modern twenty-something crowd would recognize what's effectively an inverted DDOS.

17:55 *** SkyHighAway is now known as SkyHigh

17:55 <ADragonDreaming> Informational overload via political ads and spin?

17:56 <Schism> Dearth of information due to there being no readily accessible information without further digging.

17:56 <Schism> Everything's buried under cruft.

17:57 <Schism> Hmm.  How /would/ this handling be defined?

17:58 <ADragonDreaming> Chaff.

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17:58 <Dulset> pff, imagine DDOSing an election

17:58 <Schism> That sounds as good a term as any.

17:58 <Dulset> third party candidate gets a billion votes

17:58 <Schism> Dulset: It's happened before.

17:58 *** SkyHigh is now known as SkyHighAway

17:58 * SmallSkippeZ facehooves

17:58 <Schism> In third-world countries, elections have been handled in such a terrible way that the only way to proceed is with status quo ante.

17:59 * Schism mutters, "To say nothing of North Korea."

17:59 <SmallSkippeZ> Ah, loz 2 temple theme, shower me

18:00 <SmallSkippeZ> With...

18:00 <Schism> A DDOS is when a number of false packets overwhelm the real ones, and come from multiple places.  Therefore... if you flood numerous voting sites with false votes, which are hand-counted...

18:02 <ADragonDreaming> It results in a recount.

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18:02 <Schism> True.

18:02 <SmallSkippeZ> That topic XD#

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18:02 <wobniaR> Change all votes to Vermin Supreme

18:02 <Schism> Ah well, yeah.  Chaff.

18:02 <ADragonDreaming> And then, if the Democratic candidate doesn't win, it results in a recount!

18:03 <Ethera> lol

18:03 <ADragonDreaming> Which, when the Republican candidate doesn't win, results in another recount!

18:03 <Schism> 15 years down the road.  At least we've learned our lessonOH WAIT

18:03 <SmallSkippeZ> Nope

18:03 <SmallSkippeZ> XDXDXD

18:04 * LiquidSunshine|Smash glances at chat

18:04 <LiquidSunshine|Smash> Politics?

18:04 <SmallSkippeZ> Maybeh

18:04 * LiquidSunshine|Smash leaves to play Smash again

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18:04 <Schism> Gentle discussion thereof, I think.

18:04 <ADragonDreaming> Only in general terms.

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18:04 <ADragonDreaming> No one is actually promoting an agenda or view, here, aside from that politics is nuts.

18:05 <Schism> But yeah, I hope that whatever candidates come in this year, they'll stimulate thoughts about the economy, about the future of world affairs, about the impact of environmental changes, and about the disparity in w*SNRRRK* sorry, can't keep a straight face.

18:05 <SmallSkippeZ> Which it's wierd how nobody gave a crap about celestias reign abpart from luna once, trixie, glimmer & shimmer

18:05 <Vulpor> Anyone here know of Jim Sterling?

18:05 <Snapai> That's what Bernie's about, Schism. Which is why the news is already saying "He could NEVER win"

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18:05 <Vulpor> He did a video on Konami yesterday

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18:05 <Schism> Yeah, but I'll hold out hope anyway.

18:05 <ADragonDreaming> Well, it's a benevolent dictatorship.

18:06 <Schism> Vulpor: I'm familiar with the Jimquisition, though I shan't link him here as he's oftentimes vulgar.  Is this about Silent Hills' cancellation?

18:06 <Snapai> He's the first candidate I've heard of that actually sounds like I wouldn't have to sit him down and explain what I want from the country. :p

18:06 <Ethera> To win, one must support the status quo in some way, Bernie is none of those.

18:06 <ADragonDreaming> Possible even a constitutional principality.

18:06 <Vulpor> yes Schism

18:06 <Schism> I'll have to watch that video for this week, then.

18:07 <SmallSkippeZ> Am i the only one who just LOVES nintendo music?

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18:07 <ADragonDreaming> No.

18:07 <Schism> Hey, Megaman 2 had one of the finest chiptune-rendered soundtracks ever.

18:07 <Vulpor> he even goes into how he was "black listed"

18:07 <Snapai> They also point out that if elected, he'd be the first Jewish POTUS.

18:07 <Schism> Vulpor: ... that's interesting to hear.  I'll have to listen once I take out the recycling.

18:07 <Dulset> What season 4 really needed was someone telling Twilight she shouldn't be a princess

18:07 <ADragonDreaming> ...why?

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18:08 <Dulset> So she could prove them wrong.

18:08 <SmallSkippeZ> What is up wiith my ping pong right now!?

18:08 <Snapai> Which I think might get him on The Daily Show again XD

18:08 <Dulset> But without a single person doubting her, it becomes meaningless

18:08 <Vulpor> Duset is more of a Duelist :P

18:08 <ADragonDreaming> Mmmm... no, because she was dealing with self-doubt.

18:09 <Snapai> They had Diamond Tiara admiring her royalty, that's almost as bad >.>

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18:09 <ADragonDreaming> She was the one telling herself she shouldn't be a princess, essentially.

18:09 <SmallSkippeZ> What's this about?

18:09 <LiquidSunshine|Smash> Nah its just bc im not form the US

18:09 <LiquidSunshine|Smash> So i dont really know nothing

18:09 * LiquidSunshine|Smash feels like Snow

18:10 <LiquidSunshine|Smash> So i really know nothing*

18:10 <Snapai> LiquidSunshine|Smash, eh, most other countries do a lot of facepalming at US politics I think :p

18:10 <ADragonDreaming> Is the political scene annoyingly screwed up where you are?

18:10 * SmallSkippeZ feels like... pie

18:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comic: Grief / Sunset Shimmer and Twilight Sparkle  [ http://tinyurl.com/kblzkpr ]

18:10 * SmallSkippeZ actually the opposite

18:11 <Dulset> Exactly, if the only one who thinks she shouldn't be a princess is herself, then she never has to prove anyone wrong

18:11 * SmallSkippeZ feels like homework, difficult, annoying, and everyone questions it's existance

18:11 <Dulset> And anyone could have done it. Sunset, Tirek, Luna, Applejack, Spike...

18:11 <ADragonDreaming> No, she has to prove herself wrong.

18:12 <Dulset> But that doesn't make sense

18:12 <ADragonDreaming> Sunset is EQG only, Tirek wouldn't care, Luna, Applejack, and Spike wouldn't say that.

18:12 <Dulset> That's awfully certain

18:12 <ADragonDreaming> Ye.

18:13 <Dulset> have you tried thinking about it?

18:13 <ADragonDreaming> Yes.

18:13 <Dulset> are you sure?

18:13 <ADragonDreaming> Yes.

18:13 <Dulset> I don't believe you.

18:13 <ADragonDreaming> *shrug*

18:13 <Dulset> I thought people here didn't like when others are arbitrarily dismissive

18:14 <ADragonDreaming> Eh. I've gotten over it.

18:14 <SmallSkippeZ> Eh?

18:15 <LiquidSunshine|Smash> Snapai: I think my country's politics suck even more

18:15 * LiquidSunshine|Smash snuggles Snapai

18:15 <SmallSkippeZ> Arbitrarily dismissive?

18:16 <SmallSkippeZ> All i get from the forst word is arbiter

18:16 <ADragonDreaming> Look up arbitrary

18:17 <Schism> Randomly, I'd like to note that 54.9% voting is at or above the mean since 1972.

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18:17 <Schism> At least, in the US.

18:17 <ADragonDreaming> They've done those big "get out and vote" campaigns.

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18:18 <SmallSkippeZ> Damn

18:18 <SmallSkippeZ> Ok what does that mean?

18:18 <ADragonDreaming> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/arbitrary

18:18 <Schism> I suspect that means that at its lowest level, in 1996, with a voting rate of 49%, the general consensus was that Clinton had a fait accompli.

18:19 <Schism> Oh, arbitrary, you mean.

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18:19 <Snapai> https://berniesanders.com/issues/ :D

18:19 <Schism> Arbitrary basically means 'something disconnected from other, similar things'.

18:19 <SmallSkippeZ> Oh

18:19 <Tirek> Greetings.

18:19 <Schism> So an arbitrary vote wouldn't have any relation to other votes.

18:20 <Schism> Hihi, Tirek.

18:20 <SmallSkippeZ> So that's what the abiter is

18:20 <ADragonDreaming> An Arbiter is a person who is assigned the power of decision.

18:20 <Schism> Alternately, arbitrary can mean 'neutral', from which we also have the term 'arbiter', or a neutral party.

18:20 *** LiquidSunshine|Smash is now known as LiquidSunshine

18:21 * LiquidSunshine waves to Tirek

18:21 <SmallSkippeZ> Or an arbiter is the one from the rest

18:21 <ADragonDreaming> When something is taken to arbitration, a third person who is not connected to the disagreement is given the power to decide what should be done.

18:21 <Schism> Like the judge in a court case.  (Not that the Judge ever fails to bow under the whips of Ms. Von Karma.)

18:21 <SmallSkippeZ> XD the references are strong with this one

18:21 <Dulset> arbitrary can also mean "without reason or limit"

18:21 <SmallSkippeZ> Hillary clinton turns into von karma XD

18:22 <ADragonDreaming> When one says "arbitrarily dismissive" they are referring to the meaning Dulset just mentioned.

18:22 <Schism> In that case, it's more like, "I'm ruling against the defendant because I dislike his hairstyle."

18:22 <SmallSkippeZ> So just dismiss the subject without meaning, i guess

18:22 <SmallSkippeZ> Or valid reson

18:22 <SmallSkippeZ> Reason*

18:23 <Schism> Precisely.

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 <Schism> In this case, they stem from the same p-

18:23 <Knight_Dash> +

18:23 *** Knight_Dash was kicked by daring.canternet.org (Channel flood triggered (limit is 15 lines in 5 secs))

18:23 <SmallSkippeZ> Woooow

18:23 <ADragonDreaming> ...

18:23 <Schism> That was impressive.  Anyway.

18:23 <Dulset> -

18:23 <Schism> None of that.

18:23 <Thelema5> .... What happened?

18:23 <Schism> I suspect someone was playing an MMO and alt-tabbed the wrong way.

18:24 <Thelema5> AH HA HA '

18:24 <Dulset> plus plus plus plus plus

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18:25 <ryaxnb> i haven't used this dell mini 9 in so long

18:25 <Schism> Anyway.  So yes.  In court, an 'arbitrary judgement', if I'm not mistaken, ignores certain elements of the case, such as the race, gender, behaviour, et cetera. of the defendent and prosecution, save when they are relevant to the case at hand.

18:25 <Dulset> ooh ooh ryaxnb is here, *ahem* And that is why season 4 is the worst ever, thank you for listening to my 16 hour dissertation

18:25 <SmallSkippeZ> Knight_Dash maybe was trying to say something, but equestriati banned the word!? DUN DUN DUUUN

18:25 * ADragonDreaming eyes Dulset

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18:26 <ADragonDreaming> So you *were* just trying to start an argument.

18:26 <Schism> The arbitor, in that case, is the one who determines which elements are relevant.

18:26 <Knight_Dash> What just happened? I was afk, came back and it tells me I was kicked due to a line limit.

18:26 <Dulset> or maybe was making a humorous comment

18:26 <Schism> Knight_Dash: Cat on keyboard?

18:26 <ryaxnb> im not interested in arguing with dulset

18:26 <Thelema5> Knight_Dash:

18:26 <SmallSkippeZ> You said + over and over

18:26 <Thelema5> !log

18:26 <Awaykitty> http://logs.unixkitty.net/eqd/latest.log.html

18:26 <Schism> You spewed 15 lines of just '+'...

18:27 <Knight_Dash> Sure enough, there's the cat.

18:27 <ryaxnb> kitty kittty

18:27 <Knight_Dash> Well. That's an experience.

18:27 <ryaxnb> what i was trying to do before realizing that my keyboard is utter garbage

18:27 <Schism> Well, that's why it's only a minor kick the first time it happens.  I suspect that many mods know the dangers of curious kitties.

18:27 <ADragonDreaming> That's impressive. I commend you on your recycling initiative!

18:28 <ryaxnb> was comment on how i had said earlier that hasbro would make me like a song titled life is a runway

18:28 <ryaxnb> and damn it they did :(

18:28 <SmallSkippeZ> What?

18:28 * ADragonDreaming sings Life is a Highway

18:28 <ryaxnb> ADragonDreaming, yeah i actually took this keyboard from a nonfunctional dellmini9 so it really is recycling

18:28 <Schism> Frankenputers, yay.

18:28 <ryaxnb> SmallSkippeZ, hasbro made me like a very very girly  song

18:29 <Dulset> Didn't seem like a rarity song to me

18:29 <ryaxnb> it's a song i liked :)

18:29 <SmallSkippeZ> That's the worst... Possible... THING

18:29 <SmallSkippeZ> Or not,, as the case maybe

18:29 <ryaxnb> and i knew they were going to do that, and they did

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18:30 <SmallSkippeZ> What's funny about england is that the cloder weather hits when school's about

18:30 *** Quits: Vulpor (upstmhpmgqr@Pony-4pg.stl.153.66.IP) (Quit: lightIRC.com Flash IRC Client)

18:30 <Rainbow_Dashie> Wow, been a while since I came here :p

18:31 *** Rainbow_Dashie is now known as Pony_78533

18:31 <SmallSkippeZ> Rainbow_Dashie!!!

18:31 <ryaxnb> anyway, my power's out so i'm using my dell mini 9

18:31 <ADragonDreaming> Vilkommen, Fraulein.

18:31 <ryaxnb> gotta use all my computers a little bit

18:31 <ryaxnb> to maximize ye battery life

18:31 <ryaxnb> :)

18:31 <ADragonDreaming> You have internet without power?

18:31 <ryaxnb> cellphone 3g

18:31 <Pony_78533> Hey, not on EQD site, chat dont work for me there =(

18:31 <SmallSkippeZ> Must conserve thy bettery

18:31 <ryaxnb> i'm usb tethered.

18:31 <ADragonDreaming> Cellphone hotspot?

18:31 <Pony_78533> this here is Rainbow_Dashie btw :p

18:32 <ryaxnb> usb tethering, yeah.

18:32 <SmallSkippeZ> Did you ident?

18:32 *** Joins: VinylScratch (DJPon3IsHer@Pony-t9k.cii.242.89.IP)

18:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o VinylScratch

18:32 <ADragonDreaming> She clearly did not.

18:32 <ryaxnb> i don't think so

18:32 <ryaxnb> i just logged on with hexchat.

18:32 <Pony_78533> I tried, it said it that it couldnt identify in time. Didnt get to fill in password

18:32 <ryaxnb> hi VinylScratch

18:32 <VinylScratch> heyo pon's

18:32 <Thelema5> Hi, VinylScratch.

18:32 <ADragonDreaming> Pony_78533: I recommend typing out the identify line in a notepad

18:32 <SmallSkippeZ> Wait, Rainbow_Dashie's a she? Sorry if that sounded rude

18:33 <ADragonDreaming> copying it

18:33 *** VinylScratch is now known as Sunset-Shimmer

18:33 *** Sunset-Shimmer is now known as VinylScratch

18:33 <ADragonDreaming> then pasting it into the chat line once you /nick back to Rainbow_Dashie

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18:33 <SmallSkippeZ> Or have a client which auto signs in

18:33 <Pony_78533> I'll just try to change it here and log in later :)

18:33 *** OctaveSymphony is now known as Octave|Away

18:33 <ADragonDreaming> SmallSkippeZ: I have no idea. I just based genders on screen names.

18:33 <ADragonDreaming> You won't be able to log in later.

18:33 <ryaxnb> heya renamed vinylscratch

18:34 <VinylScratch> xD

18:34 <SmallSkippeZ> Huh?

18:34 <ADragonDreaming> You have to identify within 30 seconds of assuming your registered name.

18:34 * SmallSkippeZ realises he didn't eh

18:34 <Pony_78533> wha? O, i know that. I mean like in 3 hours :p

18:34 <ryaxnb> VinylScratch, so i was saying how hasbro , as i predicted, got me to like the girliest rarity song, life is a runway

18:34 <Pony_78533> hmm just waiting for season 5 to end. Then just watch them all

18:35 <ryaxnb> that's  a modestly common technique

18:35 <Pony_78533> I dont like sub sd and ads

18:35 <SmallSkippeZ> For a sec i forgot the most recent episode

18:35 <ryaxnb> the rarity song is it's own short  though

18:35 <VinylScratch> You can get adless HD online

18:35 <VinylScratch> It's not exactly hard

18:35 <ryaxnb> i just watch them like ... a few days after they air

18:36 <ADragonDreaming> I honestly don't care that much about HD.

18:36 <Pony_78533> Yeah, but this makes the waiting more tolerable for me :D

18:36 <SmallSkippeZ> Or a few hours, that works too

18:36 <ryaxnb> when the itunes rips go up on dailymotion

18:36 <VinylScratch> ....You'll be waiting MONTHS. XD

18:36 <ryaxnb> SmallSkippeZ, then you get tvrips

18:36 <ryaxnb> they may be hd but ew tvrip

18:36 <SmallSkippeZ> Or youtube

18:36 <LiquidSunshine> v55555555555555555555555555555555555555555

18:36 <ADragonDreaming> VinylScratch, BUT.

18:36 <LiquidSunshine> Oops, sorry

18:36 <Pony_78533> Yea, but i wont miss what i dont see

18:36 <VinylScratch> BUTT

18:36 <ryaxnb> SmallSkippeZ, yes, but youtube source is a tvrip

18:36 <ADragonDreaming> You aren't waiting for each one each week.

18:36 <SmallSkippeZ> LiquidSunshine.exe has stopped responding

18:36 <LiquidSunshine> Vinyyyyyyyl :D

18:36 <ryaxnb> whereas if you wait a few days dailymotion will have itunes rips

18:37 <Knight_Dash> Better a tvrip than spoilers!

18:37 <ryaxnb> which are better quality.

18:37 <Pony_78533> No, am waiting for season 5 to end, then have a marathon :D

18:37 <ADragonDreaming> And by not watching until later you are not invested and therefore on tenterhooks.

18:37 <Knight_Dash> But fortunately I've been able to catch most episodes live this season.

18:37 <SmallSkippeZ> Same

18:37 <Pony_78533> Indeed

18:37 * LiquidSunshine snuggles VinylScratch

18:37 <ryaxnb> SmallSkippeZ, derp.exe has stopped responding. Error Code ID10T i just don't know what went wrong!

18:37 <SmallSkippeZ> XD

18:37 <ryaxnb> :(

18:37 <Pony_78533> Anyway, this is what I get when trying to log in the chat on EQD :

18:38 <Pony_78533> [19:32:49] Running lightIRC 1.3.4 Build 158. Project home: www.lightirc.com [19:33:09] Flash policy problem. If you are the server owner, please read http://redmine.lightirc.com/projects/lightirc/wiki/Flash_Policy_setup_instructions. You need to install a flash policy daemon at irc.canternet.org (port 843).

18:38 * ADragonDreaming has never really understood the hate on TVrips

18:38 <ADragonDreaming> Dashie.

18:38 <ryaxnb> i don't mind tvrips so much

18:38 <ADragonDreaming> Stop using LightIRC

18:38 <ryaxnb> but i also don't mind waiting.

18:38 <ryaxnb> use hexchat.

18:38 <ryaxnb> though the latest version doesn't run on xp.

18:38 <ADragonDreaming> or if you don't want to install a client, use mibbit

18:39 <Pony_78533> have windows 8 :p but i never (i think) installed anything for that

18:39 <SmallSkippeZ> What's worng with me: i get called something and don't like it, and when i accept it, i say       something stupid that makes them hate me afterward and trying to talk about it is impossible

18:39 <ADragonDreaming> It's not as good as an installed client, but it's better than LightIRC

18:39 <ryaxnb> hexchat is good if you're on 8

18:39 <ryaxnb> here, im on debian 7.8

18:40 <ryaxnb> debian is a good distro

18:40 * SmallSkippeZ sighs

18:40 <ryaxnb> and this slow computer needs a slow distro

18:40 <SmallSkippeZ> This is why i can't have friends

18:40 <Pony_78533> one sec, apparently loading the google homepage is ver difficult >_>

18:40 <ryaxnb> VinylScratch, what did you think of the rarity vid

18:41 <SmallSkippeZ> Ah, google has barely anyone on it OH WAIT

18:41 <VinylScratch> It was decent. o.o

18:41 <LiquidSunshine> Which rarity vdid??

18:41 <LiquidSunshine> Vid*

18:41 <ADragonDreaming> When google has issues loading it usually has to do with your computer.

18:41 <ryaxnb> it was better than i expected, as i expected

18:41 <ryaxnb> LiquidSunshine, life is a runway

18:41 <Pony_78533> but just homepage and not like they make billions a year

18:41 <LiquidSunshine> The best of the new ones, in my opinion

18:42 <ADragonDreaming> DNS issues, processor load, etc.

18:42 <LiquidSunshine> EqG Rarity is the best EqG

18:42 <ryaxnb> that would be  my past is not today

18:42 <LiquidSunshine> I simply love her character design

18:42 <Pony_78533> I actually prefer EqG Sunset Shimmer 2.0

18:42 * SmallSkippeZ just throws head back in auditory pleasure

18:42 *** Cloud_Zephyr is now known as Cloud_Zephyr|Away

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18:43 <ryaxnb> i prefer sunset, any form

18:43 <ryaxnb> demon, phoenix, hero, villain

18:43 <VinylScratch> xD Yeah, pretty much

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18:43 <Pony_78533> also demon?

18:43 * LiquidSunshine in MLG voice "ITS TOO OP M8"

18:43 <ryaxnb> you know her original movie form

18:43 <ryaxnb> in the claimax

18:44 <ryaxnb> climax*

18:44 <VinylScratch> Well, demonsunset was kinda cool lookin'

18:44 <ryaxnb> i guess you could also add Pony Sunset to the forms list

18:44 <ryaxnb> common in fanon.

18:44 <SmallSkippeZ> Gr8 b8 m8 no h8 ign r888 8/8

18:44 <VinylScratch> Oh god stop

18:44 <LiquidSunshine> I would totally love a Pony Shimmer

18:44 <VinylScratch> please

18:44 <SmallSkippeZ> Sry

18:44 <SmallSkippeZ> XD

18:44 <ryaxnb> LiquidSunshine, lots of good fanon for it

18:44 <Pony_78533> huh must be my craptacular internet then. Having trouble downloading HexChat additional files

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18:45 <ryaxnb> my internet is 3g

18:45 <ryaxnb> rip good internet

18:45 <ryaxnb> died with power

18:45 <SmallSkippeZ> Woe

18:45 <SmallSkippeZ> Wow -_-

18:45 <Dulset> Question

18:45 <VinylScratch> Answer

18:45 <Pony_78533> Answer?

18:45 <Dulset> What happened to actual human Sunset?

18:45 <ADragonDreaming> Possible answer.

18:45 <VinylScratch> [information unknown]

18:45 <ADragonDreaming> Nothing is known.

18:45 <ryaxnb> no one knows!

18:45 <ryaxnb> fanon covers it tho!

18:45 <SmallSkippeZ> CLASSIFIED

18:45 <ryaxnb> so there's lots of fanfics

18:45 <VinylScratch> She's CIA. :P

18:45 <VinylScratch> clearly

18:45 <SmallSkippeZ> Authorisation 115 required

18:45 <Pony_78533> She is in the pony world now

18:45 <VinylScratch> I doubt that

18:45 <Dulset> What if she accidentally stumbled into Equestria

18:46 <ADragonDreaming> In all likelihood she, like Twilight Sparkle, just doesn't attend Canterlot High.

18:46 <Pony_78533> undercover as Lyra

18:46 <VinylScratch> She's probably just working a dead end job someplace. :p

18:46 <Knight_Dash> Maybe the 3rd movie will include human Sunset, who is actually still a jerk, and a case of mistaken identity?

18:46 <SmallSkippeZ> ANTHROPOLOGY!

18:46 <Pony_78533> Waiting at the right moment to strike

18:46 <Dulset> Shouldn't it be Ponyville High

18:46 <Dulset> everyone but Twilight is there so...

18:46 <Knight_Dash> Where the jerkiness of human Sunset is mistakenly blamed on pony Sunset?

18:46 * ADragonDreaming shrugs

18:46 <SmallSkippeZ> Ooooh, could she be in the *muffles out voice*

18:46 <ADragonDreaming> Maybe it should, but it isn't.

18:46 <ryaxnb> i love ponies

18:46 <ryaxnb> i want more of pony sunset

18:47 <SmallSkippeZ> Can i sya this mods?

18:47 <Dulset> Also would Twilight and Sunset not be seriously disturbed by the existence of horses

18:47 <ryaxnb> maybe off camera

18:47 <ADragonDreaming> Assuming they exist in EQG world.

18:47 <Pony_78533> sure, she had it coming. Actually, if the human world shares some resemble to the pony world, wouldn't she be a student of principal celestia?

18:47 <ryaxnb> ADragonDreaming, they're in the song.

18:47 <VinylScratch> they do though

18:47 <Knight_Dash> Good thing Twilight didn't see any, then. It's like the 4th journey of Gulliver's Travels in reverse!

18:47 <ADragonDreaming> Ah.

18:47 <ryaxnb> though that song is largely imagination scenes

18:47 <ryaxnb> as with two out of the three songs

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18:47 <SmallSkippeZ> Buck the tree, maybe she could be in the epi where the 2ndary pon3's are

18:48 <ryaxnb> like pinkie's segment is all imagination scenes

18:48 <Dulset> The school is literally covered in horse statues though

18:48 <ryaxnb> true.

18:48 <Dulset> maybe they're legendary creatures

18:48 <VinylScratch> It's probably implied at least that horses exist though

18:48 <Classic_M> Eyo

18:48 <ryaxnb> yep

18:48 <SmallSkippeZ> Hi

18:48 <ADragonDreaming> The statues wouldn't weird them out.

18:48 <Knight_Dash> Also, there's this (look at this) https://derpibooru.org/339902?scope=scpefdc8aff93e75d04b420b49af380b6172aa590f9b

18:48 <Pony_78533> Makes me wonder why they didnt call the ball the grand galloping gala

18:48 <SmallSkippeZ> HAHAHAHA

18:48 <Pony_78533> your school is already brony territory, might as well give up :p

18:49 <ryaxnb> indeed

18:49 <ADragonDreaming> Probably done to differentiate it from said Gala.

18:49 <ryaxnb> Or just for the sake of the gala joke

18:49 <ryaxnb> with the whole princess/principal confusion

18:49 <Pony_78533> they should have named it Bronycon XD

18:49 <Dulset> Anyone notice in Rainbow Rocks that the portal had just been left open the whole time while the villains are actively searching for Equestrian magic :P

18:49 <LiquidSunshine> I yhink I read Lyra over there

18:50 <Knight_Dash> By the way, I wonder about human world Blueblood. It makes sense for ponyworld Prince Blueblood to be a spoiled brat, since he's royalty and all, but... Hmm, maybe Principal Celestia in the human world has rich relatives?

18:50 <SmallSkippeZ> Ok i can glitch my moniter with a plama ball

18:50 <Pony_78533> I find it hilarious that no one actually lean against the statue and fell in :p

18:50 <LiquidSunshine> Hmmmmm

18:50 <LiquidSunshine> Human Blueblood would be interesting

18:50 <ryaxnb> Maybe blueblood is a spoiled kid

18:50 <ADragonDreaming> Maybe it's keyed to Pony.

18:50 <SmallSkippeZ> A dickhead like usual

18:50 <ryaxnb> and has inexplicably young age

18:50 <Pony_78533> how ... specific :p

18:50 <ryaxnb> because why not

18:50 <Dulset> Pff

18:50 <ADragonDreaming> Only Pony world stuff gets to go through.

18:50 <LiquidSunshine> I think he IS a spoiled brat

18:50 <ryaxnb> LiquidSunshine, but i mean like a kid

18:50 <Dulset> Sunset: "My army of teenagers will take over Equestria!"

18:51 <ryaxnb> in highschool

18:51 <Dulset> *they just bonk into the statue

18:51 <Pony_78533> So only Pony > Human but not other way huh?

18:51 <ADragonDreaming> Sure, but they were all taken over by magic and stuff.

18:51 * ADragonDreaming shrugs

18:51 <ryaxnb> Since most equestria characters are in high school for no good reasons

18:51 <ADragonDreaming> It doesn't really matter that much.

18:51 <Pony_78533> I still would hav like to see Sunset Shimmer use the smash hammer on the portal *hits celestia in the face on the other side instead XD

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18:52 <ryaxnb> god these ocs are terrible

18:52 <VinylScratch> <Dulset> Sunset: "My army of teenagers will take over Equestria!" - They probably would become able bodied pony zombie slaves.

18:53 <SmallSkippeZ> Whaich ones ryaxnb

18:53 <VinylScratch> unless her magic held the portal magics at bay.

18:53 <Pony_78533> I'll do it Twilight! I'll smash the portal!

18:53 <ryaxnb> from this youtube video

18:53 <SmallSkippeZ> Oh?

18:53 <ryaxnb> welcome to Rainbow Rocks

18:53 <ryaxnb> even after s5 we still talk about it a lot

18:53 <Dulset> *sledgehammer flies through and hits Cadence in the face

18:53 <ryaxnb> shows you how cool it is

18:53 <Pony_78533> Go ahead! You will not have this crown!

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18:53 <Ethera> Cadence is best Princess.

18:54 <Pony_78533> Fine! BANG (hammer goes through portal) ....... o .... right =/

18:54 <Ethera> Cadance*

18:54 <Knight_Dash> I actually saw a piece of fanart like that, Dulset (but I think it was Celestia or someone else who it hit in the face)

18:54 <Dulset> I don't care what anyone says, it's not spelled Cadance :P

18:54 <Pony_78533> Ca Dance

18:54 <Dulset> that's not even a word

18:55 <Knight_Dash> I've never bothered to remember the proper spelling of her name.

18:55 <Ethera> You're right, it's a name.

18:55 <ryaxnb> life is a runway... also made me realize that rarity is a very beautiful girl. even though the flash assets for all the characters are basically the same.

18:55 <Ethera> Names don't have to be actual words.

18:55 <Knight_Dash> You all know who I'm talking about anyway, after all. :P

18:55 <Dulset> actually it's not even a name

18:55 <ryaxnb> rarity still manages to make herself look prettier

18:55 <Pony_78533> Fluttershy is not a word ..... is it?

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18:55 <VinylScratch> Not really

18:55 <ryaxnb> nope

18:55 <Pony_78533> there we go

18:55 <LiquidSunshine> Agree ryaxnb

18:55 <Dulset> Her name is Cadenza

18:55 <VinylScratch> Naaah

18:55 <Dulset> which is a word, that means Cadence

18:55 <VinylScratch> it's cadance

18:55 <Knight_Dash> "Flutter" and "shy" are words, though.

18:55 <Pony_78533> Princess Miamore Cadenza

18:56 <Dulset> Like the only explanation is that Cadence can't spell

18:56 <ADragonDreaming> Mi Amore

18:56 <VinylScratch> Hasbro Marketing supercedes correct spelling. :p

18:56 <VinylScratch> or something

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18:56 <Pony_78533> Or Cadance is French? Ca Dance = That Dance =^

18:56 <ADragonDreaming> It's missing the beard on the C.

18:56 <ADragonDreaming> And it's not a soft C sound.

18:56 <Pony_78533> Whatever :p

18:56 <ADragonDreaming> It's hard C, so ... no.

18:57 <LiquidSunshine> Its a strong

18:57 <LiquidSunshine> hard*

18:57 <Pony_78533> Is Luna a word?

18:57 <ADragonDreaming> Wouldn't be Cadance can't spell, though, would be Cadance's parents who can't spell.

18:57 <ADragonDreaming> Latin for Moon.

18:57 <Dulset> Her parents named her Cadenza

18:57 <Pony_78533> Oh, so Cadance doesnt mean anything in Latin either?

18:57 <VinylScratch> It's a shortened name.

18:58 <VinylScratch> Sorta like Nicky and such

18:58 <VinylScratch> it's not a word, but that's not the point

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18:58 <Dulset> Which she calls herself

18:58 <ryaxnb> you can spell your shortened names however you want

18:58 <VinylScratch> ^

18:58 <ryaxnb> My aunt named her kitty Babie.

18:58 <VinylScratch> And she does go by Cadance

18:58 <ryaxnb> pronounced Baby.

18:58 <Dulset> because she can't spell, yes

18:58 <VinylScratch> Oh don't be so stuck on this

18:59 <ADragonDreaming> hm.

18:59 <ryaxnb> he gets stuck on everything.

18:59 <Dulset> it's true!

18:59 <VinylScratch> :p

18:59 <VinylScratch> Nah

18:59 * Ethera is amused.

18:59 <ADragonDreaming> Well, according to a baby names site, Cadance is actually a variant form of Cadence in Latin.

18:59 <VinylScratch> BAAAAAM

18:59 <Pony_78533> DUM DUM DUUUUU

18:59 <VinylScratch> Touchdown, game over.

18:59 <LiquidSunshine> C C C C C OMBO BREAKER

18:59 <Dulset> Proof?

19:00 <Pony_78533> man, this layout of canternet really sucks >_< It's so unclear

19:00 <ADragonDreaming> I googled it, man.

19:00 <ryaxnb> i think you're envious because your mom named you cadence.

19:00 <ryaxnb> :P

19:00 <ADragonDreaming> I honestly don't care enough to link it.

19:00 <ADragonDreaming> You care, so google it yourself!

19:00 <Pony_78533> How did we even get here?

19:00 <VinylScratch> there's a whole bunch of search results for it

19:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story: The Poetry of Politics [ http://tinyurl.com/ko75xyl ]

19:00 <VinylScratch> it's legit.

19:00 <Pony_78533> All we know is, Luna is best Princess :p

19:00 <LiquidSunshine> ^

19:00 <ryaxnb> also two ops are saying it

19:00 <SmallSkippeZ> YUSH

19:00 <LiquidSunshine> She is :P

19:01 <ADragonDreaming> ...lol there's a Cadance Corporation.

19:01 <Pony_78533> XD

19:01 <Dulset> pff ha

19:01 <Pony_78533> What do they do? Teach men how to throw their wives or something?

19:01 <ADragonDreaming> Or was. Wow this site is bad.

19:01 <ryaxnb> alright that joke was really funny

19:01 <ryaxnb> wife-toss competitions

19:01 <ArchPegasusMichael> http://www.behindthename.com/submit/name/cadance

19:02 <Dulset> "A suggested similar baby name is Candance. This name tends to be more commonly used than Cadance."

19:02 <Dulset> Candance, that's a name that works XD

19:02 <Pony_78533> I just love that scene in the episode. I know its for a boost, but just the way he does it cracks me up every time XD

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19:02 <ryaxnb> but these are pony names not human names

19:02 <ryaxnb> ergo it doesn't matter

19:02 <SkippeZ_Shadow> U don't say!?

19:03 <ADragonDreaming> Not that human names follow grammatical/spelling logic, either.

19:03 <VinylScratch> He does say, Nicholas Cage

19:03 <SkippeZ_Shadow> XD

19:03 <ArchPegasusMichael> Mikołaj Klatka

19:03 <ryaxnb> but generally hasbro avoids super common human names

19:03 <ryaxnb> for their pony names

19:03 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Um, what?

19:03 <SkippeZ_Shadow> ArchPegasusMichael

19:03 <ADragonDreaming> Sure, but cadance isn't super common!

19:03 <Pony_78533> It dont matter. Fluttershy is not a word. Cadance is not a word. Flim Flam are not words. Words =/= names :p

19:03 <ryaxnb> ADragonDreaming, exactly

19:03 <ryaxnb> but candance is.

19:03 <ryaxnb> well, moreso

19:03 <ADragonDreaming> ...Flim Flam are words.

19:04 <Dulset> Flim and flam are words

19:04 <Pony_78533> They are?? What do they mean?

19:04 <Ethera> Why is nitpicking over names even a thing?

19:04 <SkippeZ_Shadow> So's cheese sandwich

19:04 <ryaxnb> Ethera, derpy started it :P

19:04 <SkippeZ_Shadow> But that's obvious

19:04 <ArchPegasusMichael> Skippez_Shadow: Nicholas Cage in Polish

19:04 <ADragonDreaming> It's a term that means nonsensical or insincere talk.

19:04 <Pony_78533> Well i knew that. English aint my birth language ya know :D

19:04 <ryaxnb> Derpy in UFP

19:04 <ADragonDreaming> That, or to swindle.

19:04 <SkippeZ_Shadow> What is!?

19:04 <Dulset> Blueblood also a word

19:04 <ryaxnb> "i will hunt you down and kill you, or my name isn't, and maybe it isn't, derpy hooves!" -- Derpy

19:04 <ADragonDreaming> Specifically with a confidence game.

19:05 <ryaxnb> that's SUCH a funny line to me

19:05 <Dulset> ugh, "hooves" is the worst

19:05 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Why?

19:05 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Is it too pony?

19:05 <VinylScratch> Pffft

19:05 <Dulset> yes

19:05 <Dulset> it is

19:05 <Pony_78533> Dr Who => Dr Hooves ..... genuis yay?

19:05 <ArchPegasusMichael> !link hooves

19:05 <DerpyBot> http://derpiboo.ru/446863

19:05 <VinylScratch> The show horse jokes plenty of times

19:05 <Dulset> that's Dr. Whooves, at least it's a joke

19:05 <Pony_78533> pls tell me Derpy is still in S5?

19:05 <VinylScratch> THAT one, really, shouldn't matter

19:05 <VinylScratch> She's kinda around

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19:06 <Dulset> That's why the show never said derpy hooves

19:06 <Pony_78533> ok, thats good enough for me

19:06 <VinylScratch> Not really

19:06 <VinylScratch> she's just not had an official last name from them

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19:06 <VinylScratch> they could say Hooves if they wanted

19:06 <VinylScratch> there's no copyright or reason not to

19:06 <Princess_Dreamer> Hm.

19:06 <Dulset> They could call a pony fartsnog if they wanted :P

19:06 <Pony_78533> Cause Derpy is fine. The first version of the episode only counts to me and they officialy, canonly named her derpy in the show :D

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19:06 <SkippeZ_Shadow> They are slowly trying to get deroy trough the trenches into the front line tho

19:06 *** Princess_Dreamer is now known as ADragonDreaming

19:06 <Knight_Dash> *late* Yeah, flim flam's a word. Like I told a friend before, in their S4 episode they finally actually lived up to their name.

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19:07 <Dulset> Oh guys, this is great

19:07 <Pony_78533> but then, what do they mean?

19:07 <Knight_Dash> Because in the original cider episode they weren't actually scammers despite the presentation - They were completely legit (just unscrupulous)

19:07 <Pony_78533> Flim? Flam? I feel flim today or?

19:07 <ryaxnb> Knight_Dash, the way they lived up to the word in s2 is that they were conniving scheming in their ATTITUDE

19:07 <ryaxnb> if not their plan

19:07 <Dulset> Do you guys actually know what Daring-Do is named for?

19:07 <SkippeZ_Shadow> No(!)

19:07 <Knight_Dash> A flimflam is a con.

19:07 <Pony_78533> For being shy ofcourse :p

19:07 <Knight_Dash> They weren't conponies in their first appearance.

19:08 <VinylScratch> <Dulset> Do you guys actually know what Daring-Do is named for? - Acts of derring do

19:08 <ryaxnb> but they acted like it

19:08 <VinylScratch> it's a commonly used term in fiction and writing

19:08 <ryaxnb> they just didn't offer an actual con

19:08 <Dulset> yep

19:08 <Pony_78533> Well like that. But they are named Flim and Flam. Individualy, do they mean anything?

19:08 <Princess_Dreamer> The con was in their demand of ruinous profit division.

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19:08 <VinylScratch> Flim Flam is just a way of saying lie/cheat

19:08 <VinylScratch> you're being flim-flammed

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19:08 <VinylScratch> it's together or not at all

19:08 <Knight_Dash> Huh, I guess that makes sense, Princess_Dreamer.

19:09 <Dulset> actually the con was in the competition, as well as dishonest claim of the prize

19:09 <ryaxnb> no, flimflam took the prize

19:09 <Dulset> The contest was for exclusive rights to sell cider, and when they win they just claim the farm for themselves

19:09 <ryaxnb> oh, i see

19:09 <ryaxnb> that's true

19:09 <ryaxnb> but whatever flim/flam are idiots

19:09 <Dulset> but that doesn't excuse the completely dumb character derailment from season 4

19:09 <Pony_78533> Ya know, talking about names, I never noticed how cliche they were in the show :p FlimFlam. Iron Will. I know that a late reaction :p

19:10 <Dulset> they were honest businessmen, if unscrupulous

19:10 <ryaxnb> the town btw is also idiots to not notice flim/flam is a con man's name

19:10 <VinylScratch> They were never intended to be honest though

19:10 <VinylScratch> they were clearly set up to be deliberate antagonists

19:10 <ryaxnb> VinylScratch, dont argue with him about s4.

19:10 <Dulset> "I'm Rip Cheato, let's do business!"

19:10 <Pony_78533> Just wait for the brothers Good and Deal to show up in Season 6

19:10 <VinylScratch> xD

19:10 <Dulset> You say they were never intended to be honest

19:11 <Dulset> And yet their cider is just as good as the Apples'!

19:11 <Pony_78533> Oh! Does Zecora mean anything?

19:11 * Princess_Dreamer sits on Dulset.

19:11 <Dulset> NOPE

19:11 <Pony_78533> Dulset: Yea, as long as they dont over rush it, it was

19:11 <Princess_Dreamer> Stahp

19:11 <ryaxnb> supposedly zecora means zebra

19:11 <VinylScratch> That's not the same as them being dishonest

19:11 <Pony_78533> ... it does?

19:11 <Pony_78533> In Latin?

19:11 <ryaxnb> in a african language

19:11 <Dulset> That's what I said :)

19:11 <ryaxnb> though what language was never named

19:11 <ryaxnb> so that may not be true

19:12 <ryaxnb> :P

19:12 <Pony_78533> pfff okay then XD

19:12 <Pony_78533> Maybe true, maybe not. I dunno :p

19:12 <ryaxnb> but that's what the writers of the show said

19:12 <ryaxnb> yep

19:12 <Pony_78533> what about ......... the bad guy that Daring Do fights?

19:12 <ryaxnb> in any case zecora starts and ends with the same letters as zebra.

19:13 <Dulset> Ahuizotl, a mesoamerican mythical creature

19:13 <Knight_Dash> Apparently he's an actual mythological creature from Aztec mythology.

19:13 <ryaxnb> ergo it's a good name for a zebra

19:13 <Knight_Dash> And also, according to the MLP Wiki: "he word "zecora" was, but is no longer, the word used for zebra by the Oromo people of east Africa."

19:13 <Dulset> unlike Braze XD

19:13 <Knight_Dash> You know Braze!

19:13 <Dulset> nooooo

19:13 <ryaxnb> ZeB/COra

19:13 <ryaxnb> :P

19:14 <Dulset> Ze /b/ ra

19:14 <Pony_78533> Then you could argue that Diptin is a good name for a dragon XD

19:14 <Dulset> Ze /co/ ra

19:14 <ryaxnb> ... 4chan

19:14 <ryaxnb> goddamnit

19:14 <Dulset> illuminati confirmed

19:14 <ryaxnb> half life 3

19:14 <ryaxnb> confirmed

19:14 <Pony_78533> Left4Dead 3 confirmed

19:14 <Dulset> Terragon is a good name for a dragon

19:14 <Pony_78533> Wow, nice to see the chat so active today :D

19:14 <ryaxnb> gabe can now count  to 3 confirmed

19:15 <Dulset> you're welcome ;3

19:15 <Pony_78533> needed some pony talk, i missed it :p

19:15 <Princess_Dreamer> Pony_78533, not so much Diptin, as Drimiton

19:15 <Pony_78533> OMG you are here too!

19:15 <Pony_78533> wait, sry

19:15 <Pony_78533> I missread that as princess lune for some reason

19:16 <Princess_Dreamer> That's VinylScratch.

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19:16 * Pony_78533 tacklehugs Princess-Luna

19:16 * Princess-Luna nods!

19:16 <Princess-Luna> Oh my!

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19:16 <Pony_78533> ur here!

19:16 * Pony_78533 is crying ... slightly

19:16 <Princess-Luna> O.o

19:17 <Knight_Dash> *Royal Guards tackle Pony_78533, minus the hug*

19:17 <Princess-Luna> Calm thyself! x3

19:17 <Dulset> Hey

19:17 <Dulset> So

19:17 <Pony_78533> Oh ,sry. Just lost 20% of my cool there

19:17 <Princess-Luna> x3

19:17 <Dulset> Before the Nightmare Moon incident, the princesses lived in an old castle in the everfree forest

19:17 <Knight_Dash> Your Royal Highness!

19:17 <Princess_Dreamer> Hey! Listen!

19:18 * Knight_Dash kneels.

19:18 <Pony_78533> Just so happy to see thy Princess-Luna

19:18 <Dulset> Canterlot must have then been built afterward

19:18 <Princess_Dreamer> Seems likely.

19:18 <Dulset> so... at what point did Luna learn the traditional royal canterlot voice...?

19:18 <ryaxnb> i dunno

19:18 <Princess_Dreamer> It's also possible that Canterlot as a city existed beforehand.

19:18 <ryaxnb> logic flaws in a cartoon?

19:18 <Dulset> these are the most important questions of our time

19:18 <Pony_78533> back when she still enjoyed het duty as the princess of the night

19:18 <ryaxnb> well it probably did

19:18 <ryaxnb> but it's  still a logic flaw

19:19 <Pony_78533> before becoming Nightmare Moon

19:19 <ryaxnb> but not a very important one

19:19 <LiquidSunshine> Welp

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19:19 <LiquidSunshine> HAve a nice and sweet thursday everypony :D

19:19 <Princess_Dreamer> It's also possible that Canterlot Castle also existed, and was still the seat of government, and the Everfree Castle was a personal retreat for the sisters.

19:19 <Pony_78533> then apparently, everything went to hell all at once

19:19 <Pony_78533> Nightmare Night, King Sombra, Discord, Starswirl the Bearded dissapeared, ...

19:20 <Princess-Luna> For Equestria, that's just another tuesday

19:20 <Princess_Dreamer> Which is actually supported by all the various traps and tricks in there existing for the sisters to have fun with each other.

19:20 <Knight_Dash> Starswirl disappeared?

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19:20 <Pony_78533> I think that was mentioned somewhere

19:20 <LiquidSunshine> Laters!

19:20 <Princess_Dreamer> Not in the main show, to my knowledge.

19:20 <Princess-Luna> Well, Starswirl was still just a mortal wizard, not quite the same league as the sisters

19:20 <Princess_Dreamer> He probably just died of old age.

19:20 <Princess-Luna> Yup

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19:20 <ryaxnb> it was in the princess's diary

19:20 <Pony_78533> Just wait for season 6 then :p

19:20 <ryaxnb> which is in the canon of the main show

19:21 <ryaxnb> twilight reads aloud that section

19:21 <ryaxnb> so yeah, that's canon, the tricks and traps

19:21 <Pony_78533> O see? I did remember correctly then :D

19:21 <Dulset> It's not the presence of all those threats that bugs me, but how Celestia supposedly dealt with all of them yet Twilight has to do it all anyway

19:21 <Pony_78533> thanks for that ryaxnb ^^

19:21 <Princess_Dreamer> are you talking about Starswirld or the tricks?

19:21 <Princess-Luna> <ryaxnb> so yeah, that's canon, the tricks and traps

19:21 <ryaxnb> the tricks.

19:21 <Pony_78533> oh, nvm then

19:21 <Dulset> MMC could have been fixed with Starswirl

19:22 <Princess_Dreamer> Dulset: yeah, but Twilight's the protagonist now!

19:22 <Knight_Dash> Speaking of the journal, they made the journal into an actual real life book. Written by Amy Keating Rogers, apparently using the show bible and production notes.

19:22 <Princess_Dreamer> So she has to do it, or the show would be about Celestia.

19:22 <Princess-Luna> I think that's what they're talking about

19:22 <Dulset> That... makes no sense Princess

19:22 <Pony_78533> wait for season 6 where Celestia confirms that he vanished a 1000 moons ago. Twilight responds : Geez, a lot of things sure happened a 1000 moons ago huh? >_>"

19:22 <Dulset> Remember Chrysalis?

19:22 <Princess_Dreamer> Also also Twilight now has the elements.

19:22 <Dulset> well no, she does not XD

19:22 <ryaxnb> Pony_78533, ponies can count to 3

19:22 <Princess_Dreamer> Well. Had.

19:22 <ryaxnb> but not past 10 or so

19:23 <Princess_Dreamer> And kind of still has, based on RAINBOW POWER!

19:23 <ryaxnb> 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1000,1000,1000

19:23 <Dulset> which is gone

19:23 <ryaxnb> something like that

19:23 <ryaxnb> :P

19:23 <Pony_78533> ryaxnb: so you are saying Equestria has Half Life 3 then?

19:23 <ryaxnb> yes

19:23 <Princess_Dreamer> I dunno, is it?

19:23 <Princess_Dreamer> It's not clear!

19:23 <Pony_78533> thats why it is taking so long. Damn the import laws

19:24 <Pony_78533> maybe the ponies are beta testing for us humans. Truly they are magic creatures XD

19:24 <Dulset> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJj6ktI2iwc

19:24 <Knight_Dash> Princess Luna bought up all the copies.

19:24 <Pony_78533> Bought up all the copies of a digital game? Wha? :p

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19:24 * Princess_Dreamer waits for youtube video to fail to load.

19:24 <ryaxnb> Pony_78533, princesses can do that

19:24 <Knight_Dash> Import laws on a digital game?

19:25 <Pony_78533> Like i said, maybe instead of import laws, they are testing it for us :p

19:25 <Princess_Dreamer> More likely than you think.

19:25 <Knight_Dash> Anyway, she wants to be able to finish the game without any spoilers. Best way to do that is to ensure that no one else can play it... Just until she's finished, of course.

19:25 <Knight_Dash> The problem is, her royal duties keep getting in the way..

19:26 <Pony_78533> Games like Ride to Hell Retribution dont get send through Equestria and thus are very bad. The ponies cant test it for us. Half Life 3 and The Last of Us are testing and then send to the human world via the portal. This explains the many crossovers we see online

19:26 <ryaxnb> also

19:26 <ryaxnb> why do none of the online reactors

19:26 <ryaxnb> :P

19:27 <Princess_Dreamer> The Last of Us has been released, though.

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19:27 <Princess_Dreamer> ryaxnb: what?

19:27 <Pony_78533> indeed! Pony approved :D

19:27 <ryaxnb> Princess_Dreamer, that had an end but then i forgot to care about the end

19:27 <ryaxnb> and decided it wasn't very good

19:27 <ryaxnb> :P

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19:28 <ryaxnb> hi DinkyDoo

19:28 <Pony_78533> ryaxnb: kinda like Mass Effect 3 *badum TISH

19:28 <ryaxnb> yeah

19:28 <DinkyDoo> Wazup

19:29 <Pony_78533> they are making a Mass Effect 4. Bioware, I hope you learned your lesson

19:29 <DinkyDoo> Pony_78533 that quite a name you got there ;P

19:29 <Pony_78533> I am actually Rainbow_Dashie but cant log in :p

19:29 *** Init3-away is now known as init3

19:29 <Princess_Dreamer> Shepard's still the protag hahaha

19:29 <Knight_Dash> Really? So it wasn't just a trilogy? I need to play it some time.

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19:30 <Pony_78533> I thought it was

19:30 <Princess_Dreamer> No, it's a complete trilogy.

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19:30 <Pony_78533> So they are just gonna use Shepard then?

19:30 <Knight_Dash> This gives me hope for Dragon Age. Still haven't played DA: Inquisition (so no spoilers) but I was kind of hoping we'd get a Dragon Age game for every nation of Thedas.

19:30 <Princess_Dreamer> I have no idea.

19:31 <Pony_78533> I just hope to see a few more new IP's from these big companies. I luv Uncharted, but Naughty Dog can do something new. I luv Mass Effect, but Bioware can do somthing new. I lov Star Wars Battlefield, but EA cant do anything

19:32 <Knight_Dash> Dragon Age: Origins took place in Ferelden, Dragon Age II took place (mostly) in the Free Marches, from what I gather I think Inquisition probably takes place in the Empire of Orlais... but there's still so much ground to cover. I wonder what a Dragon Age game set in the Tevinter Imperium would be like. Can you imagine, from the perspective of a Tevinter citizen... The Tevinter Imperium really intrigues me.

19:32 <ryaxnb> Pony_78533, change it to like RD_Dashie or something

19:32 <ryaxnb> that hints at your name but isn't regged

19:32 <Pony_78533> I dont know how on canternet

19:33 <ryaxnb> /nick RD_Dashie

19:33 <Princess-Luna> You could use TheDashie

19:33 <Princess-Luna> that's not reg'd

19:33 <ryaxnb> yeah

19:33 *** Pony_78533 is now known as Rainbow_Dashie

19:33 <Princess-Luna> Or that

19:33 <Rainbow_Dashie> Jordi1346

19:33 <Princess_Dreamer> ...

19:33 <Rainbow_Dashie> O_O

19:33 <Princess_Dreamer> you might want to change that password now.

19:33 *** DinkyDoo is now known as LostThoughts

19:33 <ryaxnb> did you just send your password

19:33 *** Rainbow_Dashie is now known as Pony_78263

19:33 <Pony_78263> >_>_>_>_>_>_>_>

19:33 <Princess-Luna> xD

19:33 <LostThoughts> Haha!

19:34 <ryaxnb> try a nickname that isn't registered or send your password like this

19:34 <Princess-Luna> That's deliciously silly

19:34 <Pony_78263> well............. there's your fail of the day to laugh at XD

19:34 <ryaxnb> /msg nickserv identify Passwordgoeshere

19:34 <ryaxnb> :)

19:34 <ryaxnb> once you've changed your nick

19:34 <LunaticHell> I have returned.

19:34 <Princess_Dreamer> oooor you can shorten /msg nickserv to /ns

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19:35 <ryaxnb> Princess_Dreamer, some clients don't support that.

19:35 * LostThoughts glomps LunaticHell

19:35 * LunaticHell glomps back

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19:35 <Princess_Dreamer> I always though that was network specific.

19:35 <ryaxnb> maybe

19:35 <ryaxnb> Pony_78263, anyway try that

19:35 *** Pony_78263 is now known as Rainbow_Crashie

19:36 <ryaxnb> aww what a cute name

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19:36 <Rainbow_Crashie> should have taken Rainbow_Derpy for that uterly emberrasing fail XD

19:37 * LunaticHell hugs the Princess of the night, just her sight gives his heart flight, this will be a silly pun, so I might end this now, hon. xP

19:37 <Rainbow_Crashie> All hail Princess-Luna

19:37 * LunaticHell boops Princess-Luna ;)

19:37 <Knight_Dash> *Royal Guards tackle Lunatic*

19:37 * LunaticHell derps

19:37 <Rainbow_Crashie> U cant stop us all :D

19:38 <ryaxnb> Knight_Dash, royal guards fail at tackle

19:38 <ryaxnb> accidentally hit Celestia instead

19:38 <ryaxnb> usual royal guard failure

19:38 <LostThoughts> !kill

19:38 * DerpyBot grabs LostThoughts and flies off in the general direction of Sugarcube Corner

19:38 <Knight_Dash> Woah. Was that a reference to..

19:38 * DerpyBot returns with a cupcake with LostThoughts's name etched into the frosting

19:38 <Knight_Dash> ...Yep.

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19:39 <Rainbow_Crashie> that's .... yeah

19:39 <LostThoughts> Hehehe don't get to use that one often ;-;

19:39 * Rainbow_Crashie takes a bite out of the cupcake."Mh, tastes noice :D

19:39 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Noice

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19:39 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Vary noice

19:40 <Rainbow_Crashie> u know what I am referencing XD

19:40 * LostThoughts flails his little icing hands around in fear

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19:40 <Rainbow_Crashie> Eum, Derpy! This cupcake is still moving! Is that normal?

19:41 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Umm. No

19:41 *** LostThoughts is now known as DinkyDoo

19:41 <SkippeZ_Shadow> The only reference for me is "general direction"

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19:41 <Rainbow_Crashie> In the mouth NOM NOM NOM *click* noice :D

19:42 <Princess_Dreamer> ...

19:42 <SkippeZ_Shadow> No ping, go down

19:42 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Wha's wrong Princess_Dreamer

19:42 <Rainbow_Crashie> bad ping! thats a bad ping

19:42 * SkyHigh sleeps on Princess_Dreamer

19:42 <SkippeZ_Shadow> It's at 112 now

19:43 <SkippeZ_Shadow> But it's going above 121, which idl

19:44 <ryaxnb> pony

19:44 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Ho'kay

19:44 <Rainbow_Crashie> NOHOHO! My internet has reached it's limits?! Damn u GTA V for PC!!!

19:44 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Eh?

19:45 * Thelema5 tumbles back into the chat

19:45 <ryaxnb> u need comcast

19:45 <Rainbow_Crashie> 2 weeks before reset?! Rainbow_Crashie signing of for the first and last time

19:45 <Thelema5> But we haven't even danced yet!

19:45 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Don't worry guys, i have a rubber mallet

19:45 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Wait does it have 2 t's?

19:45 <Rainbow_Crashie> Thelema5: Havent seen u in a while! How are ya :D

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19:46 <Rainbow_Crashie> (yea, i just blew the name Rainbow_Dashie cause of password fail)

19:46 * Thelema5 Haven't seen me? I'm usually here.

19:46 <Rainbow_Crashie> Well, i mean, i have been gone for a while :p

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19:46 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Thelema5, he did a me, except not as long

19:46 <Thelema5> I don't recall your nick, Rainbow_Crashie.  Was it different before?

19:47 <Rainbow_Crashie> Rainbow_Dashie XD

19:47 <Thelema5> Oh.  XD

19:47 <Thelema5> Welcome back!

19:47 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Oh, Rainbow_Crashie, do you wanna see my lego m4a1

19:47 <SkippeZ_Shadow> ?

19:47 <Rainbow_Crashie> needed some pony talk :p we discussed pony names for 10min XD

19:47 <Rainbow_Crashie> oh, not really sure what the m4a1 is, but sure! ^^

19:48 <Knight_Dash> In this place, there are many people who choose to name themselves after a blue horse.

19:48 <Rainbow_Crashie> how dare they =D

19:48 <Thelema5> That blue one sure is a popular pony!

19:48 <SkippeZ_Shadow> http://imgur.com/t9y3DzR

19:48 <Rainbow_Crashie> Because she gives free passwords

19:48 <SkippeZ_Shadow> R_C

19:49 <Rainbow_Crashie> omg, loading at 1mbp/sec is just .... EIUUUUGHGHHH

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19:49 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Could you load that image Rainbow_Crashie

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19:50 <Rainbow_Crashie> alright, see it. Looks pretty nice SkippeZ_Shadow . Now dont run on the street with it or cops apparently think you are armed >_>

19:50 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Well, the standard gun is black bnvm

19:50 <Knight_Dash> Didn't cops lethally shoot a 12 year old playing in the park with a toy gun?

19:51 <SkippeZ_Shadow> 13*

19:51 <Rainbow_Crashie> thats sorta what i was getting at. I dont understand why they shot him for that >_>

19:51 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Plus i can't take my lego outside anyway

19:51 <SkyHigh> LOL. Random lol strike!

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19:51 * SkyHigh derps and flies off

19:51 <Princess_Dreamer> Poor timing.

19:51 <Rainbow_Crashie> but it's a sad, sad topic that I rather not discuss. Sorry for (semi) bringing it up

19:51 <SkyHigh> :0

19:52 <SkyHigh> What?

19:52 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Eh?

19:52 * SkyHigh taps Princess_Dreamer, "What do you mean?"

19:52 <Princess_Dreamer> -_-

19:52 <Rainbow_Crashie> Oh, these internet speeds ;.. and I plan to plan Guild Wars 2 with this?!

19:52 <Princess_Dreamer> Just read up, SkyHigh.

19:52 <Princess_Dreamer> I swear, IRC users have tunnel vision.

19:53 <SkippeZ_Shadow> What?

19:53 <Thelema5> It's easy to miss a line here and there.

19:54 <SkippeZ_Shadow> I need to clean my tablet screen

19:55 <Rainbow_Crashie> I gtg for now. I'l try to return in the weekend ^^ (ya know, if my internet will let me)

19:55 <Knight_Dash> Bye!

19:56 <Rainbow_Crashie> Bye Bye ! ^^

19:56 <Thelema5> Bye!

19:56 <SkippeZ_Shadow> Bubu

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19:57 <SkippeZ_Shadow> http://img.phombo.com/img1/photocombo/72/Ep1-013.jpg best starfighter EVAR

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20:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: EQLA Announces the Creator of Pony! [ http://tinyurl.com/mk5frrq ]

20:03 <DinkyDoo> !flip

20:03 * DerpyBot flies up in the air and does a backflip

20:03 * DerpyBot lands on her back. Ouch!

20:03 <DerpyBot> ¡ƃuoɹʍ ʇuǝʍ ʇɐɥʍ ʍouʞ ʇ,uop ʇsnɾ ı

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20:14 * SkyHigh tips Princess_Dreamer over.

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20:18 <Knight_Dash> I should go.

20:19 <Knight_Dash> See you, guys.

20:19 <Knight_Dash> Make sure my cat doesn't get up to any mischief. :P

20:19 <SkippeZ_Shadow> G'bye

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20:24 <ryaxnb> init3, hi

20:24 <ryaxnb> <DerpyBot> ¡ƃuoɹʍ ʇuǝʍ ʇɐɥʍ ʍouʞ ʇ,uop ʇsnɾ ı unicode never ceases to amaze

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20:24 <ryaxnb> soon we won't even need RTF

20:25 <ryaxnb> we'll have all the major font families, sizes, and styles and glyphs and formatting and paragraph spacing in unicode

20:25 <ryaxnb> and it will be glorious

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20:28 <ryaxnb> woot power's back on

20:28 <ryaxnb> it's glrious

20:29 <Princess_Dreamer> *choir of angels*

20:30 <ryaxnb> I really don't care too much aboutpower outages

20:30 <ryaxnb> i have enough USB backup power sources to last me a few days of phone and tablets

20:30 <ryaxnb> four batteries for my 9" netbook with a total of ~16 hours life

20:31 <ryaxnb> my 11" chromebook gets 7 hours

20:31 <ryaxnb> i can get 4 hours from two batteries on my asus

20:31 <ryaxnb> and my acer gets another 2 hours.

20:31 <ryaxnb> i've got power.

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20:38 <LunaticHell> What just happend?

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20:39 <Unixkitty> You are not the only one asking that question right now, LunaticHell :P

20:39 <LunaticHell> oh hi Unixkitty *snuggles* also xD

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20:55 <Thelema5> !link fun

20:55 <DerpyBot> http://derpiboo.ru/294043?scope=scpebce0e32e8174ad41664bfcee1dc235cce20582d2

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20:55 <Thelema5> Not quite what I had in mind.

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21:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Cups: Editing Theme Decks - Tips from a Pony CCG developer [ http://tinyurl.com/lx28fxw ]

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21:10 <Vulpor> Hey all

21:10 <Vulpor> So, I have a new crossover idea for MLP

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21:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +ao Fall Fall

21:10 <Vulpor> A fanfiction idea

21:11 <Vulpor> You see ponies exist........................

21:11 <Vulpor> but the government has been covering it up

21:12 <Vulpor> The FBI has been throwing cold cases of pony sightings down their basement

21:13 <Vulpor> Where  two agents investigate the files

21:14 <Princess-QRS> Hi Fall!

21:14 <Fall> Hey

21:14 <Vulpor> The P Files

21:14 <rhg135> hmm, that's different

21:15 <rhg135> I don't think I've heard that one before

21:15 <Vulpor> lol

21:15 <Vulpor> how old are you rhg135

21:15 <rhg135> 21, why?

21:15 <Vulpor> from the US?

21:16 <rhg135> yes

21:16 <Vulpor> Do you recall the name Fox Mulder

21:16 <Vulpor> or Dana Scully

21:16 <rhg135> no

21:16 <Vulpor> the X Files?

21:16 <rhg135> yes

21:17 <Vulpor> The P Files

21:17 <Vulpor> lol

21:17 <rhg135> I know the idea I meant I don't think such a fanfic exists

21:17 <Vulpor> oh I am almost confident no one is doing that

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21:26 <Thelema5> Somepony take me away to Equestria.

21:26 <PeachBlossom> Hi, everypony!

21:27 <Thelema5> Hi, PeachBlossom.

21:27 <Thelema5> Welcome to a chat!

21:27 <PeachBlossom> What's up?

21:28 <PeachBlossom> Thank you!

21:28 <Thelema5> Nothing much- I'm just working.

21:28 <PeachBlossom> Cool.

21:28 <Thelema5> The chat has been rather quiet today.

21:28 <PeachBlossom> Yeah I can tell.

21:28 <Thelema5> PeachBlossom, who is your favorite pony?

21:29 <PeachBlossom> It's a three-way tie with Rainbowdash, Fluttershy, and Pinkiepie.

21:29 * Vulpor comes in seeing the new pony

21:30 <Vulpor> Hey there PeachBlossom! Welcome to our little corner of the internet

21:30 * PeachBlossom waves at Vulpor

21:30 <Thelema5> PeachBlossom, those are my exact favorites too!

21:30 <PeachBlossom> Hi! And thank you!

21:30 <Vulpor> And I love all three of those too

21:30 <Vulpor> Pinkie got me into this whole thing

21:31 <PeachBlossom> I kinda just got started with the show.  I just started season 2.

21:31 * Princess-QRS leaps on Thelema5!

21:31 <Thelema5> I relate most closely to Flutters, because she and I are very much alike, but Rainbow Dash inspires me to be more bold, confident, and daring.  Pinkie Pie has only recently become a favorite, just since season 4.

21:31 <Sol> Yay someone who's not further along than me for once :3

21:32 <PeachBlossom> XD

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21:32 <PeachBlossom> Hi, Sol!

21:32 <Sol> Hello

21:32 <Thelema5> So you haven't watched all the episodes>

21:32 <Thelema5> ?

21:32 <PeachBlossom> Yeah.

21:32 <Vulpor> Oh sweet Celestia

21:33 <Thelema5> Oooh, be careful- many spoilers aboud!

21:33 <PeachBlossom> I'm just barely into the second season.

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21:33 <Vulpor> PeachBlossom i envy you

21:33 <Thelema5> But I'm evious- you have SOOO much to look forward to.

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21:33 <Jolt> hello?

21:33 <Sol> I'm in the weird boat of having seen s1, the first chunk of s2, and all of s5 so far. Fun

21:33 <Thelema5> Ah ha ha, Vulpor.  We think alike.

21:33 <Vulpor> thelema5 that

21:33 <Thelema5> Hi, Jolt.

21:33 <Vulpor> lol

21:33 <PeachBlossom> Heyya, Jolt

21:34 <Vulpor> How old are ya PeachBlossom and are you US or are you international?

21:34 <Jolt> Template, Hello?, Response, Hello

21:34 <PeachBlossom> I'm from the US

21:34 <Vulpor> Cool

21:34 <Vulpor> So am I

21:34 <Vulpor> SC

21:34 <PeachBlossom> And I'm 20 years old.

21:35 <Vulpor> I am 31

21:35 <PeachBlossom> Sweet

21:35 <Thelema5> PeachBlossom, just don't jump ahead to season 4 or 5.  Something happens at the end of season 3 which would be spoiled for you if you skip ahead.

21:35 <Jolt> im 19

21:35 <Jolt> I'm the youngest

21:35 * Thelema5 is an old man

21:35 <PeachBlossom> I'll be sure to watch everything before 4 and 5.

21:36 <Thelema5> yay!

21:36 * Sol knew too much in advance for it to matter

21:36 <Vulpor> and the two movies lol

21:36 <Thelema5> Oh, right.  The movies.

21:36 <Thelema5> :p

21:36 <Vulpor> everyone forgets about equestria girls

21:36 <Jolt> who is a guy and who is a girl and who is both?

21:37 <Thelema5> Well, they aren't really canon except in Twilight's memories.

21:37 * PeachBlossom raises hoof

21:37 <PeachBlossom> I'm a girl.

21:37 <Dulset> I am back

21:37 <Thelema5> And I don't like the way Dash is portrayed in the EQG films.

21:38 <Vulpor> I am a fox

21:38 <Jolt> vixen?

21:38 <PeachBlossom> Does anypony have a 3DS?

21:38 <Jolt> nope

21:38 <Vulpor> male fox

21:38 <Vulpor> nope

21:38 <Mike_Coltfield> My goldfish accidentally ate its 3DS

21:38 <Thelema5> I understand that it's intentionally similar to how she was depicted in the first episode, because knowing twilight and bearing an element has matured her personality...

21:39 <Vulpor> I gotta PS4 though

21:39 <Thelema5> But I still don't like it.

21:39 <Jolt> I have a ps3

21:39 <Vulpor> Heya Mik_Coltfield

21:39 <Jolt> I like it better than ps4

21:39 <ryaxnb21> i like her personality in the first movie

21:39 <PeachBlossom> Darn.

21:39 <ryaxnb21> in the second movie she's a kind of jerk

21:39 * PeachBlossom puts up spoiler barrier

21:40 <Thelema5> Awesome as I want to be was a jerky song.

21:40 <ryaxnb21> PeachBlossom: haven't seen RR?

21:40 <ryaxnb21> i love the movie, dash was just a jerk :P

21:40 <Vulpor> Thelema5 I just got into Boogiepop Phantom

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21:40 <Vulpor> Man is that a trip after something sweet like Lucky Star

21:40 <Thelema5> I enjoyed the film, too, ryaxnb21.

21:40 <ryaxnb21> also awesome as i wanna be was a jerky song but i felt that it wasn't the worst part of her jerkiness in that movie since it was just an exaggerated combo of dash's personality and rockstar god status

21:40 <ryaxnb21> like AC/DC or whatnot

21:40 <PeachBlossom> Nope.  I just started season 2, ryaxnb21

21:41 <ryaxnb21> there were worse scenes for dashie in the movie.

21:41 <Dulset> Season 2 is best season omg best opener ever

21:41 <Thelema5> PeachBlossom, it's gonna be so awesome!

21:41 <Jolt> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5kkwermfs4

21:41 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

21:41 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Portal 2 Best of GLaDOS

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21:41 <Thelema5> Oh, PeachBlossom... this is for you! https://derpiboo.ru/2604

21:41 <PeachBlossom> I'm on part 2 of the opener

21:42 <Princess-Luna> Dash has been a jerk outside the movies anyway

21:42 <Princess-Luna> even as far as recently

21:42 <Princess-Luna> What can I say? She's just the jerk with a heart of gold...and occasionally silver. :P

21:42 <Thelema5> True, it's her flaw.  But there was pretty much nothing balancing that in RR.

21:42 <Dulset> ^

21:42 <Thelema5> Like, really nothing likeable at all.

21:43 <Princess-Luna> that really was the point though

21:43 <Mike_Coltfield> Which was sort of the point of her role in RR.

21:43 <Princess-Luna> BAM

21:43 <ryaxnb21> yeah that's my problem

21:43 <Dulset> Just goes to show the human characters are just cardboard cutouts of the real characters

21:43 <ryaxnb21> that song wasn't the only jerky move dashie has

21:43 <Thelema5> Well, I've only seen the film once; maybe I'll have to give it another watch.

21:43 <Princess-Luna> that's not the point, Dulset

21:43 <ryaxnb21> eh... dash is

21:43 <ryaxnb21> rarity can be

21:43 <PeachBlossom> Thank you, Thelema5

21:44 <ryaxnb21> But twilight, sunset, pinkie, aj, and flutters are fine

21:44 <Princess-Luna> She was supposed to be the aggrevation point for the group constantly, a trigger to accidentally collapse things later on because ego.

21:44 <Princess-Luna> 'cause she's not learned the things ponydash has

21:44 <Dulset> Twilight and Sunset don't count for obvious reasons and I disagree about the others

21:44 <Princess-Luna> although you can argue ponydash hasn't learned much

21:45 <Princess-Luna> :P

21:45 <Thelema5> :p

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21:45 <Dulset> Twilight becoming friends with them at all is as thin as cardboard

21:45 * PeachBlossom casually sits out of the conversation

21:45 <Princess-Luna> Not really

21:45 <Thelema5> Well folks, it's quittin' time and I'm heading home.

21:45 <Princess-Luna> and this isn't important enough for me to let my chinese go cold for.

21:45 * Princess-Luna noms.

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21:46 <Jolt> I have a quote i made

21:46 <Jolt> It's true but terrible when I saw it

21:46 <ryaxnb21> Dulset: in particular flutters is very notable as being actualyl a bit different than pony fluttershy

21:46 <ryaxnb21> she's more of an animal lover, but can't actually talk to animals and is slightly more assertive

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21:47 <Dulset> yeah, those creepy smiles

21:47 <ryaxnb21> but still afraid of fame or conflict.

21:47 <Dulset> that wink

21:47 * Dulset shudders

21:47 <Jolt> "The world has always been at large, only those who can cooperate will survive"

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21:47 <PeachBlossom> Note to self: Cold tea is super-bitter. Ew.

21:47 <ryaxnb21> mostly these differences serve to make the movie work, admittedlhy

21:47 <DaringPon3> I'm having a problem which noone seems to be able to work out, help me out guys, you are my only hope! https://www.dropbox.com/s/wgjxdmqycprbskb/scaleprob.jpg?dl=0 I can't seem to scale the vids from Youtube and also other sites like vimeo..

21:48 <ryaxnb21> but they do make fluttershy stand out as being just as in depth as pony shy but a bit different

21:48 <DaringPon3> If anyone has any idea whatsoever, please pm... Using Firefox atm.

21:48 <Dulset> Well admittedly, almost everything about Fluttershy's character is part of her being a pony

21:49 <Dulset> BTW I made this :3 http://imgur.com/WysmdvI

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21:50 <ryaxnb21> with the whole living with maud thing i think human pinkie has a really well defined traitset too

21:50 <Dulset> pff

21:50 <ryaxnb21> nearly as cartoony as actual pinkie, but has a different living situation

21:50 <ryaxnb21> and not quite as wild and crazy

21:50 <ryaxnb21> because her world is less "magical"

21:50 <ryaxnb21> (for instance, she doesn't have the party cannon pony pie has)

21:51 <ryaxnb21> so more of her craziness revolves around her seeming to know about equestria, or about horses, or in general being modestly psychic (kinda like a pinkie sense)

21:52 <ryaxnb21> rather than just cartoon humor]

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21:53 <Jolt> I was stupid

21:53 <ryaxnb21> given pinkie's connection with magic , supernatural, and unrealistic elements of the pony world, i can see her being somewhat psychic in the human world since that's one of the only forms of "magic" semi-widely believed in here

21:53 <ryaxnb21> (even though IRL it's fake)

21:53 <ryaxnb21> (but seeing as EqG world seems to have very slight latent magic, perhaps in her world it's not, as in many tv shoes where it's left ambigous)

21:53 <ryaxnb21> :)

21:54 <DaringPon3> enough of the spoilers, but yeah. Maud is a promising char for the upcoming eps.

21:54 <Princess-Luna> ...

21:54 <Princess-Luna> We weren't spoiling season 5

21:54 <Princess-Luna> this was rainbow rocks

21:54 <Dulset> Maud, seriously...?

21:54 <Princess-Luna> People enjoy Maud

21:54 <Princess-Luna> and now we're done talking about this in here...

21:54 <Princess-Luna> 'cause spoilers.

21:54 <Dulset> fair enough

21:54 <Jolt> I enjoy Maud

21:55 <DaringPon3> alright

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21:55 <Jolt> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjWhDLbr3MA

21:55 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

21:55 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about And Then There's Maude

21:55 <Mike_Coltfield> My goldfish has a plan. That plan is to hug Princess-Luna.

21:55 <ryaxnb21> as for human AJ, she acts like pony AJ whenever she's not a mane character, that is to say she blends in :P

21:55 * Princess-Luna isnt sure a goldfish hug is sizeable enough for such things

21:56 <Mike_Coltfield> This is the goldfish that once accidentally ate Moldova.

21:56 <ryaxnb21> this makes sense since AJ isn't a main focus of the movies, so she's treated like AJ would be in a two-parter or whatever

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21:57 <Dulset> It's funny, in Rainbow Rocks she's the most antagonistic character in the bunch

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21:57 <ryaxnb21> eh... not really

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21:57 <Dulset> oh yeah?

21:57 <Princess-Luna> She's just not one for the shenanigans

21:57 <ryaxnb21> especially if you side with her on rarity being obsessed as many do

21:57 <Princess-Luna> she just wanted to get on with things

21:57 <DaringPon3> AJ cries on the inside.

21:57 <Princess-Luna> and everyone else was, as she saw it, holding that up

21:58 <Princess-Luna> it's not antagonistic as much as it is simply being frustrated at the situational issues.

21:58 <ryaxnb21> Dashie was the most jerkish with the "our band" thing

21:58 <Princess-Luna> ^

21:58 <Dulset> Well it's not "being reasonable" that was the solution now was it?

21:58 <Princess-Luna> Well, here's the rub

21:58 <Dulset> It was not being argumentative.

21:58 <Princess-Luna> ALL of the 5 were being a little silly because of things

21:58 <Princess-Luna> that was the whole idea

21:58 <Dulset> kind of lucky for the sirens, don't you think? ;)

21:58 <ryaxnb21> yeah, they all got overreacted but AJ was no worse or better than any except pinkie

21:59 <Dulset> what if they were like, actually good friends

21:59 <Princess-Luna> Well, many things are written that way

21:59 <ryaxnb21> whose only "overrreaction" was to note that they were breaking up and thus she wasn't having any fun

21:59 <Princess-Luna> And a band isn't just the same thing as a friendship

21:59 <ryaxnb21> which is correct, and thus pinkie didn't really screw up at all

21:59 <Jolt> I'm lonely Princess-Luna

21:59 <ryaxnb21> :P

21:59 <Princess-Luna> they had to work with each other....and they Weren't

21:59 <ryaxnb21> (Yay Pinkie)

21:59 <Princess-Luna> at least not properly

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21:59 <ryaxnb21> Princess-Luna: ever noticed what i just pointed out?

21:59 <Princess-Luna> Not so much]

22:00 <ryaxnb21> Pinkie never actually does anything wrong except the confetti in the drums

22:00 <Princess-Luna> Eeeehhh...

22:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1516 - Sunset Shamwow  [ http://tinyurl.com/njwswsc ]

22:00 <Princess-Luna> I think that was also her thing - she wasn't really doing anything specifically

22:00 <PeachBlossom> Wow. Seven minutes in, and I facehoofed. XD

22:00 <ryaxnb21> her main complaint seems to be that the band is not fun, which is entirely true.

22:00 <ryaxnb21> and is the problem that sunset is also fixing

22:00 <ryaxnb21> since she's correct that if the band is not fun it's not worth doing and they don't have their magic

22:00 <Dulset> In Equestria Girls universe, being in a band is EXACTLY the same as friendship

22:01 <Princess-Luna> Ehhhhhhh

22:01 <Princess-Luna> The thing there is they weren't WORKING together on it

22:01 <ryaxnb21> yeah, true

22:01 * Princess-QRS explodes with friendship

22:01 <ryaxnb21> but pinkie is never the one to actually SOLVE friendship problems

22:01 * Jolt explodes with soda

22:01 <ryaxnb21> she did recognize what the problem is, and didn't really increase it as much as the others.

22:01 <ryaxnb21> she just didn't help solve it either

22:02 <ryaxnb21> that would be sunset :P

22:02 <Princess-Luna> Friends, sure, but working as part of a band can be a whole other ballgame entirely...especially if there's a problem with certain egos clashing and such

22:02 <Princess-Luna> For all intents and purposes, a lot of the blame is on dash's door

22:02 <ryaxnb21> well, sure, but it still applies especially since pinkie's ego doesn't clash with anypony.

22:02 <ryaxnb21> even dash, not that much

22:02 <Princess-Luna> I wasn't...talking to you

22:02 <ryaxnb21> oh i see.

22:03 <Dulset> I love that the solution to all their problems was Sunset saying "C'mon if you fight the bad guys win" and then everything is perfect again.

22:03 <Princess-Luna> At this point, all I see is a circular opinions argument]

22:03 <ryaxnb21> she also points out they are letting "little things get to them"

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22:03 <Princess-Luna> I don't really think there's anything to be gained in keeping the wheel turning

22:03 <ryaxnb21> Princess-Luna: with me? i'm not arguing with dulset

22:03 <Jolt> who is famous here?

22:03 <ryaxnb21> i dont' even know what his argument is, i was just chatting with u :P

22:04 <ryaxnb21> you really need to direct your conversations, Princess-Luna .

22:04 <Princess-Luna> But he was chatting with you about it too

22:04 <Princess-Luna> you know that

22:04 <ryaxnb21> yeah, but i was mostly ignoring him

22:04 <Dulset> was I?

22:04 <ryaxnb21> i do that

22:04 <Princess-Luna> Then we're done

22:04 <Dulset> bye

22:04 <ryaxnb21> i mean, not like rudely ignoring him, i just wasn't attempting to respond to him just you for the most part, except one line.

22:04 <ryaxnb21> because his arguments were just kinda, as you said, cyclical.

22:05 <Princess-Luna> Did you need to say that?

22:05 <ryaxnb21> no

22:05 <ryaxnb21> but you said it :/

22:05 <Dulset> 'strue

22:05 <ryaxnb21> so i figured it was okay to repeat it.

22:05 <Princess-Luna> I didn't ask to be repeated though

22:05 <ryaxnb21> ok

22:06 <ryaxnb21> well my mistake then :3

22:06 <Princess-Luna> it was a case of 'we kinda are done here'

22:06 <Unixkitty> How about you all simply move along, okay?

22:06 <ryaxnb21> yeah@

22:06 <ryaxnb21> so i'm watching a recursive reaction

22:06 <ryaxnb21> a reactor reacts to his first reaction.

22:06 <Dulset> it's called a feedback loop ;P

22:06 <ryaxnb21> it's pretty weird....

22:07 <ryaxnb21> i give it 10/10

22:07 <Dulset> So what did you guys think of Return of Harmony?

22:07 <ryaxnb21> i've watched these before, but this time the reactors first reaction was truly terrible

22:07 <ryaxnb21> so he's basically just mocking his own absolutely atrocious youtube video

22:07 <ryaxnb21> which is always pretty funny :P

22:07 <ryaxnb21> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW5Y91KzMAI

22:08 <Dulset> ...derpybot?

22:08 <Princess-Luna> What about her? :p

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22:08 <Unixkitty> Ugh, newest build of Windows 10, and they stiiill have not fixed audio stuttering with Google Chrome.

22:09 <ryaxnb21> Unixkitty: i have a new saying for the windows 10 beta

22:09 <Dulset> She's supposed to tell me wht the video is about

22:09 <ryaxnb21> "the first beta MS has produced since Vista to feel like a beta!"

22:09 <Princess-Luna> You know what they did fix though? that pesky Java! :P

22:09 <ryaxnb21> 7 and 8 betas both were pretty stable

22:10 <ryaxnb21> this beta is like , unusually bad, reminds me of Vista beta 1.

22:10 <Unixkitty> The bot will describe a video only if you append !link to the video link in your message, Dulset.

22:10 <Sol> Oh, I thought you were referring to Vista itself as a beta

22:10 <Dulset> oh...

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22:10 <ryaxnb21> no i mean, vista beta 1 was just post-reset and was very rough code.

22:11 <ryaxnb21> it had very low compatibility, lots of bugs, didn't work in MS's own virtual machine software at the time, etc.

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22:11 <Sol> Vista was the horrible beta for Windows 7. :3

22:11 <Princess-Luna> it worked fine on my laptop at the time

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22:11 * Princess-Luna can honestly say she never once had an issue with Vista. XD

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22:11 <ryaxnb21> no, vista's only a beta if you think of "good" betas like 7 beta. if you compare to win 10 beta, or NT 5 beta, vista is much more stable (the RTM final version)

22:12 <Princess-QRS> I liked Vista.

22:12 <Princess-QRS> worked for me

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22:12 <ryaxnb21> Vista was okay-ish, but Vista Beta 1 had all the problems of Vista and then some since they hadn't done any compatibility testing really

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22:12 <ryaxnb21> since the whole point of the beta was to do that

22:12 <Sol> I didn't have any issues with it on the laptop I had with it either, aside from it being a resource hog

22:12 <Princess-Luna> I mean, I hear so many folks saying this or that...and I just remember 'Hey, this runs nicely!'

22:12 <ryaxnb21> as such it worked with almost nothing... make sense Princess-Luna ?

22:12 <Princess-Luna> Nope.

22:13 <Princess-Luna> :P Kidding

22:13 <ryaxnb21> Princess-Luna: i don't mean FINAL vista, that was okay, especially SP1 ... oh okay

22:13 <Princess-Luna> So seeeerious muzzle! ;3

22:13 <ryaxnb21> yeah, the vista dev process was such a trainwreck until ms got it together at the last bit with the RCs, RTM, and SP1 builds.

22:13 <ryaxnb21> :P

22:13 <ryaxnb21> win10 sounds similar

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22:14 <ryaxnb21> major bugs in each beta.

22:14 <ryaxnb21> lots of major incompatibilities.

22:14 <Sol> I won't mess with Win 10 while it's beta still

22:14 <ryaxnb21> might be wise considering the beta is kinda bad now

22:14 <ryaxnb21> unless you dual boot or VM of course. unlike vista beta 1, 10 runs very well in VM

22:14 <ryaxnb21> even on Mac OS X, it runs well in VM.

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22:15 <ryaxnb21> if you're running OS X and want a Windows VM for windows software.

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22:19 <ryaxnb21> Princess-Luna: fun fact: vista for consumers was delayed a few months post-RTM to allow for compatibility testing, driver and software updates

22:19 <Princess-Luna> Okii then

22:20 <ryaxnb21> so the vista you saw was not just RTM vista, but post-RTM vista after devs had already released their critical patches and tested them on RTM

22:20 <ryaxnb21> so it really was the last few minutes that did the critical compatibilty fixes that made vista usable, to the point ms delayed it so that could occur

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22:25 <Jolt> hi Renard

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22:26 <Jolt> chat is silent

22:26 <ryaxnb21> Princess-Luna: here's another fun fact you didn't want to know

22:26 <Princess-Luna> Oh goody?

22:27 <ryaxnb21> the vista beta period, including longhorn, was so damn long it spawned whole communities dedicated to preserving, testing, reporting on , and experiementing with windows alphas and betas, such as betaarchive.

22:27 <Jolt> huh

22:27 <Jolt> Well that's a thing

22:27 <ryaxnb21> Watching Paul thurrot go on a rollercoaster of emotions from hyped to doom-sayer about the vista betas and alphas was fun, too

22:28 <ryaxnb21> (of winsupersite.com)

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22:30 * Princess-Luna feels her eyes glossing over, lol

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22:30 <ryaxnb21> yep

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22:30 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony!

22:30 <ryaxnb21> but chat is dead, which is the best time to go all Twilight_Sparkle on ponies

22:30 <Skippez_Shadow> Why is it in life i bully myself more?

22:31 <ryaxnb21> :P

22:31 <ryaxnb21> hi Thelema5

22:31 <Thelema5> !log

22:31 <Awaykitty> http://logs.unixkitty.net/eqd/latest.log.html

22:31 <Skippez_Shadow> Doing updates, yay

22:32 <Thelema5> My yard looks like a disaster zone.

22:32 <Jolt> updates? of what?

22:32 <Skippez_Shadow> Just apps

22:32 <Skippez_Shadow> Andro

22:32 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/tlDJbmg Now I understand where "PC Master Race" comes from.

22:33 * Cepheid gets shot.

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22:33 <Jolt> you okay?

22:33 <Skippez_Shadow> Hmmm

22:33 * Princess-Luna puts the rifle away

22:33 <Princess-Luna> :3

22:33 <Thelema5> :p

22:33 <ryaxnb21> Cepheid: godwin's law

22:33 <ryaxnb21> REALLLY

22:33 <Skippez_Shadow> Jolt: who you speaking to?

22:34 <Jolt> Cepheid

22:34 <Skippez_Shadow> Oh

22:34 <ryaxnb21> Cepheid: like c'mon man i was thinking godwin's law because race, but i thought that was too obvious/lazy/dumb

22:34 <ryaxnb21> and you went and did it anyway :(

22:35 <Cepheid> Sorry.  I just had to do it. :P

22:35 <ryaxnb21> okay

22:36 <ryaxnb21> i think pc master race come because the first 3d pc game, and thus the first one to really show off that the pc could not just have more advanced gameplay (like WRPGs) than consoles but also more advanced graphics, was a nazi game

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22:36 <ryaxnb21> (not really, but that's equally dumb)

22:37 <Cepheid> Eh.

22:37 <ryaxnb21> Wolf3d was the first pc game that sold well to  really sell on graphics rather than gameplay

22:37 <Cepheid> Admittedly the whole "PC Master Race" thing is kind of frustrating though.  Makes me want to punch people who utter it.

22:37 <Dulset> it's a figure of speech guys

22:37 <Cepheid> SPeaking of.

22:37 * Cepheid punches self twice.

22:37 <ryaxnb21> what it means, and what i prefer to use, is that PC is "tier 1"

22:37 <ryaxnb21> to use xbox terminology

22:38 <Dulset> TR4Q

22:38 <ryaxnb21> (xbox called europe mainland "tier 2" for release, in a bad PR move)

22:38 <Cepheid> Nah.  Europe is tier 3.

22:38 <fyrepony> no one outside usa should get xboner

22:38 <fyrepony> you miss almost all features

22:38 <ryaxnb21> So to emulate that bad PR move to make a name still vaguely insulting but not as bad as nazism, i'd call PC Tier 1 and Consoles Tier 2.

22:38 <ryaxnb21> :P

22:38 <Dulset> logically tier 2 is higher than tier 1

22:39 <Cepheid> Japan->North America->Europe->Australia

22:39 <ryaxnb21> fyrepony: only really the multimedia features

22:39 <Dulset> but no one actually uses that anyway, if you want to say it's the best just say top tier :P

22:39 <ryaxnb21> whether you get xbox live itself depends on the country

22:39 <Cepheid> Though occasionally North America and Europe are switched.

22:39 <ryaxnb21> in the UK and western europe, xbox live online is fully available.

22:39 * Princess-Luna just games - it's all the same to her, technicalities be damned.

22:39 <ryaxnb21> YMMV in eastern europe, minor european countries, etc

22:39 <Cepheid> Indeed.

22:39 <Cepheid> I just play games, regardless of target.  I'll choose PC over consoles though if I can though.

22:40 <ryaxnb21> Cepheid: well PCs have a bunch of differences, like mobile does from consoles or handhelds from consoles

22:40 <ryaxnb21> its' why they're considered a different market

22:40 <ryaxnb21> incidentally, have you heard of steamspy?

22:40 <Cepheid> Oddly though, if a handheld option exists, I tend to go handheld over non-handheld.

22:40 <ryaxnb21> for instance, MS themselves considers them a different market as they've marketed Titanfall as Xbox exclusive when there's a PC version

22:40 <Cepheid> Well, most of the time.

22:41 <ryaxnb21> Because most people who want PC FPSes don't play FPSes on consoles anyway

22:41 <fyrepony> ryaxnb21:  they are making titanfall 2 now

22:41 <ryaxnb21> yeah but that's multiplat

22:41 <fyrepony> yes for pc too

22:41 <ryaxnb21> not just pc/xbone but also ps4.

22:42 <fyrepony> what consoles need= one reason to get them, so far xbox has its driving games...but ps4 is lacking stuff

22:42 <ryaxnb21> ps4 has bloodborne

22:42 <ryaxnb21> and the last of us remastered

22:42 <ryaxnb21> both 10/10 AAA games

22:43 <ryaxnb21> (though one is a remake)

22:43 <ryaxnb21> plus a number of multiplats including some without PC versions (like destiny)

22:43 <fyrepony> anyway ill get xbox controller for my pc when ill get money!

22:43 <fyrepony> then ill get racing game

22:43 <fyrepony> and enjoy

22:43 <fyrepony> imma be the best rally driver

22:43 <ryaxnb21> there's other PS4 exclusives, but most of them aren't "AAA"

22:43 * Cepheid takes the rifle from Princess-Luna.

22:44 <ryaxnb21> however, PS4 has the best library overall, especially if you count indies also available on PC (i.e. if you aren't a heavy PC gamer like i am)

22:44 <Princess-Luna> I'll get a PS4 eventually for MGSV, Persona V and Deus Ex Mankind Divided - all of them multi, no doubt, but would rather have a PS4

22:44 * Cepheid aims it at right foot, fires rifle. Aims at left foot, fires rifle again.

22:44 * Cepheid hands rifle back to Princess-Luna.

22:44 <ryaxnb21> persona v might be psexclsive

22:44 <ryaxnb21> i have word from neogaf that FF sold 79% on ps4 vs xbone

22:44 <Princess-Luna> That I can roll with

22:44 <ryaxnb21> That's in the USA, home of the Xbone.

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22:44 <ryaxnb21> and FF is way more Xbox focused than Persona

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22:45 <ryaxnb21> so i think sales of persona on xbone, worldwide, including japan where it isn't even really a thing, would be like 5% of the total

22:45 <ryaxnb21> probably not worth it :P

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22:45 * Thelema5 takes all the rifles. And a shotgun. http://i.imgur.com/SFCAmbg.jpg

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22:45 <Princess-Luna> I think the one gaming piece of news I want, right now, is 'Yes the Great Ace attorney is coming to the west' - THEN I'll be happy. XD

22:45 * DinkyDoo puts muffins in there place

22:46 <Princess-Luna> 'cause I want dat one so baaaaaadly

22:46 <ryaxnb21> Europe must have like 90%+ attach rates for FF in favor of the PS4 version rather than xbone, since europe has a 3:1 installed base for ps4 whereas US is like 1.3:1

22:46 <ryaxnb21> :P

22:46 <ryaxnb21> and Japan would be Inifinity:1 basically

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22:47 <ryaxnb21> Xbone doesn't get many buyers from people who want to play JRPGs since that genre is well known to always be better on PS3/PS4/PS2/PSX since the first one.

22:47 <ryaxnb21> it's more of a home for action-adventure, sports, fps, WRPGs, and the like...

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22:48 <Princess-Luna> I just don't see enough reasons to care about the XB1 outside of multiplatforms I'll get elsewhere

22:48 <Princess-Luna> I don't Halo, for example

22:48 <ryaxnb21> yeah

22:48 <Princess-Luna> And everything else is covered either on PC or Wii U, which is a lovely little console no matter what folks might feel.

22:48 <DinkyDoo> I miss halo on pc :(

22:48 <ryaxnb21> but xbox 360 i mean, had a huge reason to get it over PS3 if you were a FPS fan (aside from exclusives it just played them better) but if you liked JRPGs PS3 had more and better running

22:49 * Princess-Luna still has her 3DS and PS3, of course

22:49 <ryaxnb21> even FF played better on PS3.

22:49 <Princess-Luna> FFXIV?

22:49 <ryaxnb21> no, FFXIII.

22:49 <Princess-Luna> or XIII

22:49 <Princess-Luna> Ah

22:49 <Princess-Luna> yesh, for some reason I hear that one was botched...

22:49 <ryaxnb21> whereas very few other non-JRPG multiplats were actually BETTER on the ps3.

22:49 <Princess-Luna> and I think... 'HOW?'

22:49 <ryaxnb21> most JRPGs were better running on PS3.

22:49 <DinkyDoo> !flip

22:49 * DerpyBot flips a muffin

22:49 * DerpyBot catches the muffin with her hoof, correct side up

22:50 <ryaxnb21> Princess-Luna: one ironic but minor problem is the game was linearized to fit a multi-disc set and cut down to fit the xbox's space limits

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22:50 <ryaxnb21> (both versions)

22:50 <Princess-Luna> Oh that I know

22:50 <hawthornbunny> !flap

22:50 <ryaxnb21> that does screw it up a lot i think especially the early game, which is notoriously bad

22:50 <Princess-Luna> I just can't help laugh at that

22:51 * Princess-Luna still stands behind her firm FF Favourite as 9...although she has fun on XIV

22:51 <ryaxnb21> well, it's one of the only times a game would've unarguably been better on ps3

22:51 <ryaxnb21> almost all other games, 360's more powerful gpu, easier to work with cpu, and more RAM won out

22:51 <Jolt> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An_BM85mF0A

22:51 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

22:51 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES | Bad Dream: Memories

22:51 <DinkyDoo> !flip

22:51 * DerpyBot flips a muffin

22:51 * DerpyBot catches the muffin with her hoof, upside down

22:51 <ryaxnb21> But with FFXIII, the game needs dat blu-ray

22:52 <ryaxnb21> which itself... the bluray is what made the ps3 $600

22:52 <ryaxnb21> really $900 in raw costs

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22:52 <ryaxnb21> like out of the $900 $400 was related to bluray

22:52 <ryaxnb21> so FF was the killer app for bluray PS3 desperately needed to justify the insane price they sold it at to GET bluray in the first place

22:52 <ryaxnb21> :P

22:53 <Thelema5> Interesting: A farmer in Kenya says one of his cows has given up its usual vegetarian diet and started eating sheep- http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-32428154

22:53 <DinkyDoo> ...

22:53 <Cepheid> ...

22:53 <Princess-Luna> Well then

22:53 <ryaxnb21> a farmer in kenya has given up farming to become popular in international news via hoaxes!

22:53 <ryaxnb21> in other news.

22:53 <Cepheid> There's a girl outside who's walking along and a cat is following her.

22:54 <DinkyDoo> How big is the cat

22:54 <Thelema5> Is the cat stalking her as prey?

22:54 <Schism> Cepheid: ... and in the fourth panel of this 4koma, what happens?

22:54 <ryaxnb21> Princess-Luna: you seen the ps3 introduction video

22:54 <ryaxnb21> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH2w2l1JTs4

22:54 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

22:54 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Sony's Embarrassing E3 2006 Press Conference

22:54 <ryaxnb21> this one

22:54 <Princess-Luna> Who didn't?

22:54 <ryaxnb21> yeah

22:54 <Princess-Luna> it was a meme for years

22:55 <ryaxnb21> that video has 2 million hits

22:55 <Schism> Oh yeah.  $599.

22:55 <ryaxnb21> i'm surprised it has that few honestly

22:55 <ryaxnb21> PtA II has more.

22:55 <Schism> There're probably a few spinoff videos which have siphoned away a bit.

22:55 <Schism> Memes and so on.

22:55 <DinkyDoo> Hmm is the car walking on two legs?

22:55 <DinkyDoo> Cat*

22:56 <Schism> Cepheid, did you know that there's a school board in Quebec which has agreed with a bus driver's decision that 'reading a book while on the school bus is hazardous'?

22:56 <Princess-Luna> I laugh now at that price considering I can get a fat PS3 for, what, 90 UK Monies. { Current keyboard has no Pound sign, t'is apparently more american than expected! }

22:56 <ryaxnb21> i love the bit where he says they're not interested in gimmicks and then goes into a bunch of gimmicks

22:56 <ryaxnb21> clever editing

22:57 <Schism> You can just say 90 pounds, we're an international group here, Luna.  :P

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22:57 <ryaxnb21> Princess-Luna: i have a norwegian keyboard on my junker laptop.

22:57 <Princess-Luna> xD

22:57 <ryaxnb21> i have it set to US english keyboard on my OSes

22:57 <Princess-Luna> Oh hey, I found it

22:57 <Princess-Luna> Stupid keyboard. XD

22:57 <ryaxnb21> which means that the labels for the symbols aren't accurate, but memory is  because the key layout is basically QWERTY

22:58 <Schism> Yay!  Now take off the key and put it in a little cage so you don't lose it again.

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22:58 <ryaxnb21> so i just use US english layout and treat it as a qwerty

22:58 <LunaticHell> Why did nopony tell me that I got a scar on my ellbow? D:

22:58 <ryaxnb21> works okay

22:59 <ryaxnb21> if i set it to norwegian, the labels match up, but norwegian key layout is completely terrible :(

22:59 <Schism> LunaticHell: You... but... but we thought... we thought you knew... ;_;

23:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Remixin' The New Song - I'll Fly  - FlightRush Remix and Metal Cover by DusK  [ http://tinyurl.com/lq3yaop ]

23:00 <Princess_Dreamer> Screwing around with Action Replay codes are fun. Especially when you set it up to fight level 100 Genesects constantly, because they like to selfdestruct immediately.

23:01 <LunaticHell> I did not know that until now, dood. D:

23:01 <Cepheid> Schism:  I can believe that.

23:01 <Schism> Having fun just breaking Black and White now?

23:02 <Cepheid> We're in North America, continent of stupid laws and concepts.

23:02 <Cepheid> Er, on*

23:02 <Princess_Dreamer> Schism: yes.

23:02 <Schism> True.  And Quebec is a little more loony than most...

23:02 <DinkyDoo> North America better then a lot of other places...

23:02 <ryaxnb21> you know what's funny about the "real time weapon change" clip

23:02 <ryaxnb21> i think the anouncer knew that script was terrible

23:02 <Princess_Dreamer> I got through the Elite Four legitimately.

23:02 <ryaxnb21> he sounded like he was unsure of the line like "the hell? that's boring"

23:03 <Princess_Dreamer> Then I went to go explore the post-endgame stuff

23:03 <Schism> Princess_Dreamer: I'm still trying to get through them the first time, now and again.  I need to powerlevel against Audinos.

23:03 <Princess_Dreamer> And I wound up against a level 65 Croagunk, and had to pull out Zekrom to not get wiped.

23:03 <Princess_Dreamer> So I said "Oh. Okay. Well SCREW THAT."

23:03 <Princess_Dreamer> And now I'm just fast-tracking the grinding.

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23:03 <DinkyDoo> Yeah it gets crazy Princess_Dreamer

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23:04 <Schism> At least grinding to some extent is a simplified matter with the experience curve, but seriously, ugh.

23:04 <Princess_Dreamer> Frankly the only reason Zekrom was able to take it is because of Zen Headbutt.

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23:04 <PeachBlossom> I'm back, guys!

23:05 <hawthornbunny> Hi PeachBlossom!

23:05 <PeachBlossom> Hi, hawthornbunny!

23:05 <Princess_Dreamer> I mean, okay. The endgame is fought against level 48, level 50, and level 52 Pokemon.

23:06 <Princess_Dreamer> I fought through it with levels 42 to 52 (Mushu the Mienshao was level 52)

23:06 <PeachBlossom> ...Did I just hear Pokemon? :D

23:06 <Princess_Dreamer> A reasonable level for the post-game content immediately out the first gates would be, say, 50 to 55.

23:07 <Princess_Dreamer> Not a doggam 12 level jump to 65.

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23:07 <Thelema5> Welcome back, PeachBlossom.

23:07 <PeachBlossom> Thanks, Thelema5.

23:08 <Schism> Princess_Dreamer: Sounds like good times to go back and see if you can rechallenge other trainers.

23:08 <Schism> They might not be bumped up to /quite/ those levels.

23:08 <Princess_Dreamer> You'd think but I've seen no evidence of this being a thing in White.

23:08 <PeachBlossom> Hey, Princess_Dreamer, you're playing gen 5, right?

23:09 <Princess_Dreamer> Yes.

23:09 <Schism> Hrmmf.

23:09 <Schism> Um, battle arenas in that huge city with the carnival?

23:09 <Schism> I know that the various sports teams can be rechallenged daily.

23:09 <PeachBlossom> Ok. Uh.  I can't help you out; I never finished that one. Sorry.

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23:10 <Princess_Dreamer> No, it's fine.

23:10 <Princess_Dreamer> I've just hacked the game to shorten the grind.

23:10 <Thelema5> Does everypony in the world but me game?

23:10 <Thelema5> Gosh.

23:10 <Princess_Dreamer> Level 100 genesect + infinite health + infinite PP

23:10 <PeachBlossom> Oh!  You can go to Serebii.net to get some hints.

23:10 <Princess_Dreamer> Occasionally Garchomp or Audino or others, depending.

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23:11 <Schism> Thelema5: I'm a gamer, he's a gamer, she's a gamer, they're all gamers, wouldn't you like to be a gamer too? <Drink Dr. Gamer.>

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23:12 <Thelema5> :p

23:12 <Cepheid> My mother advised something to me and I listened and I'm not sure it was a good idea now.

23:12 <Princess_Dreamer> Genesect is nice because it tends to knock itself out, being a time save.

23:12 <Princess_Dreamer> *saver

23:12 <PeachBlossom> I'm about to play Super Smash Bros.  If anyone here has a 3DS, we can battle together.

23:12 <Princess_Dreamer> Also it donates 1 ev point to Attack, Sp. Attack, and Speed.

23:14 <Jolt> Im bored

23:14 <Schism> That sounds ... situationally useful.

23:14 <Schism> EVs tend to be the sort of thing where you want two major and one minor stat.

23:14 <Jolt> I made a video outta boredom

23:14 <Cepheid> As for what I did:  Nyquil for sleep, plus a muscle relaxant.

23:14 <DinkyDoo> DataByteBrony:

23:14 <DinkyDoo> DataByte:

23:14 * Schism settles a glass of port on Cepheid's nose.

23:14 <DinkyDoo> You there?

23:15 <Princess_Dreamer> You've either got hitters or tanks, really.

23:15 <Schism> Or tricks.

23:15 <Princess_Dreamer> Tricks don't exist.

23:15 <Bubble-Berry> !link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UkpcpUF7ag

23:15 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

23:15 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Perturbator - "War Against Machines" ["Dangerous Days" Official]

23:15 <Princess_Dreamer> (not in the single player)

23:15 <DataByteBrony> DinkyDoo!

23:15 <Schism> Not in SP, but the prevalence of moves in tournament play leads to a sort of combo trickster archetype.

23:16 <Princess_Dreamer> Yeah, but I don't play MP.

23:16 * DataByteBrony pounces bubble pony

23:16 <Schism> Fair nuff.

23:16 <Princess_Dreamer> So it's hitters and tanks.

23:16 <DinkyDoo> Can you give me a link to you website real fast?

23:16 <Princess_Dreamer> Hitters want speed. Tanks don't need speed.

23:16 <Jolt> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHQd9eirZh4

23:16 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

23:16 <DataByteBrony> http://fimfetch.net

23:16 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Boredom

23:16 <DinkyDoo> Thank you data

23:17 <Schism> I kind of want to come up with a very fast Chansey to prove you wrong, but I can't.  :<

23:17 <Thelema5> DataByte, push dat thang

23:17 <Cepheid> Schism:  You have any idea how hard it is to describe how to pronounce a sound via text, and text alone?

23:17 <Princess_Dreamer> Generally speaking tanks don't need to hit first.

23:18 <DataByteBrony> bit of fun

23:18 <Princess_Dreamer> Their point is to soak the hit, not care that they soaked the hit, and hit you anyway. Especially using things like revenge, or payback.

23:18 <Schism> Cepheid: Oh, I'm no stranger to onomatopoeia.

23:18 <DataByteBrony> general reminder for you to never trust your spellcheck:

23:18 <PeachBlossom> If you have a Quick Claw, give it to one of your Pokemon.  There's a 50/50 chance that it'll hit first.

23:18 <Schism> Unless the enemy /also/ has a quick claw.

23:18 <DataByteBrony> "Our selfs are doing great!"

23:18 <Cepheid> Schism:  YEah, well, try explaining the "L" sound to someone who doesn't know what it is.

23:18 <DataByteBrony> plural of "self" is "selves"

23:18 <PeachBlossom> Or priority

23:18 <DataByteBrony> "selfs" is a verb used to describe the act of self-pollination

23:19 <Schism> Cepheid: ... various types of the L sound, at that... yeah, I can see what you mean.

23:19 <Princess_Dreamer> Both of those moves require going second in order to unlock full potential.

23:20 <Princess_Dreamer> And then of course there's the Ferrothorn.

23:21 <hawthornbunny> I've got a Ferrothorn!

23:21 <Cepheid> Schism:  I explained only the most common.  Those that have a vowel following them, extended "L" sound, and the case where a word ends in the letter "L".  And I also explained the tongue motions used. >_>;

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23:21 <Princess_Dreamer> Who hurts you if you hit it, or if you try to run, or if you do anything except shoot fire specials at it.

23:21 <hawthornbunny> Ferrothorn is best spiky metal plant ball thing

23:21 <Schism> Yeah, tongue at the palate, next to one's teeth; release tongue from palate when proto-syllable is complete.

23:22 <Princess_Dreamer> And who features a move that gets stronger based on the difference between the user and the target.

23:22 <Cepheid> Heh.

23:22 <JackFruit> Cepheid it is fairly easy if on has an extensive knowledge of IPA sound designation

23:22 <JackFruit> one*

23:22 <Princess_Dreamer> The faster the target is in comparison to the user, the stronger the gyro ball is.

23:22 <Cepheid> JackFruit:  This is a person learning English.

23:22 <Cepheid> Who knows of no language using an L-like sound.

23:22 <Princess_Dreamer> Cepheid: is this person, perchance, Japanese?

23:22 <JackFruit> IPA ahas equivalents in every language though

23:22 <Cepheid> Yes.

23:23 <Princess_Dreamer> Figures.

23:23 <Cepheid> JackFruit:  Doesn't work if the person is Japanese.

23:23 <JackFruit> French would have troubles with some sounds too

23:23 <Princess_Dreamer> French has those weird r's you prounce with your throat.

23:23 <Princess_Dreamer> *pronounce

23:23 <JackFruit> I can pronounce all the varieties of r

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23:23 <Princess_Dreamer> Good for you.

23:24 <Schism> Let's not forget the glottal click of ! in some languages.

23:24 <Princess_Dreamer> And some languages needing a glottlestop as an actual character.

23:24 <hawthornbunny> I've just realised what I love about Tanks For The Memories. It's the way Dash just casually grabs Tank and carries him around. It's so adorable. ^.^

23:25 <Schism> hawthornbunny: Don't discount her Grinch grin.

23:25 <JackFruit> The french "R" is called "uvular" or "guttural" fricative

23:25 <Princess_Dreamer> Right.

23:26 <Cepheid> I can't pronounce the French R.

23:26 <Princess_Dreamer> It's very difficult if you haven't grown up with it.

23:26 <Cepheid> And annoyingly, many people assume I can speak French because of my last name.

23:26 <Cepheid> Dionne.  'Tis a French last name.

23:26 <Schism> I fear that nor can I.  I do my best when encountering French customers, but thankfully, most of them simply wave off my mispronunciation of their name.

23:27 <Cepheid> Fortunately Schism, you don't have to do that with my last name. :P

23:27 <Princess_Dreamer> Generally speaking, you just need to get used to people not being able to pronounce your name entirely properly.

23:27 <Cepheid> Just say it using English pronunciation and you're fine.

23:27 <Princess_Dreamer> It goes /all ways/

23:27 <Schism> Cepheid: Sure, but most English speakers would assume that the I is an 'eye' rather than 'ee'.

23:27 <Cepheid> In fact, everyone in my family PREFERS it that way.

23:27 <JackFruit> Princess_Dreamer, I haven't grown with that french R at all, I had to learn one that is even harder: the russain R

23:27 <DinkyDoo> I understand that Princess_Dreamer

23:27 <Schism> Oh, you do prefer die-onn?

23:27 <Cepheid> Dee-on

23:27 <Schism> Or die-ohn*

23:27 <DinkyDoo> My last name is allways geting picked apart wrong

23:27 <Schism> That's what I thought.

23:27 <Princess_Dreamer> For example, good luck pronouncing Boese.

23:28 <Schism> All your Boese are belong to us.

23:28 <Cepheid> But the French pronunciation enunciates the "ne" part.

23:28 <Princess_Dreamer> You are very close.

23:28 <hawthornbunny> I think it's pronounced like 'fish'

23:28 <DinkyDoo> Pusloski everyone says poo loo ki

23:28 <Princess_Dreamer> But most people will get it wrong the first time.

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23:28 <Princess_Dreamer> Good luck pronouncing Diakite.

23:28 <Cepheid> As for why my family prefers the English pronunciation, all I know..

23:29 <Cepheid> Is that my entire family tree has this huuuuuge hard-on for hating the French and Quebec.

23:29 <Cepheid> Except me and my Sister.

23:29 <Princess_Dreamer> Well, the Quebecois are kind of ... jerks.

23:29 <Schism> To be fair...

23:29 <Princess_Dreamer> At least, the vocal ones.

23:29 <Schism> Yeah, Princess_Dreamer got there first.

23:29 <Cepheid> The only dislike I have for Quebec is the separatist party which is causing trouble.

23:29 <JackFruit> Russian R would be "rhotic trill" or "rolled R"

23:29 <Princess_Dreamer> Yeah, they're like your version of those jerks down in Texas for us.

23:29 <JackFruit> Hard to learn if you have never heard it

23:29 <Schism> Or Arizona.

23:29 <Thelema5> :p

23:29 <Cepheid> Pretty much, Dreamer.

23:30 <Cepheid> The Separatist Quebecois are the annoying Texans of Canada.

23:30 <Cepheid> The remaining Texans of Canada would be Alberta.

23:30 <Schism> Okay, yeah, Texans are more appropriate.  Arizona's not quite appropr-- oh gods, Alberta.

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23:31 <Schism> I've a lot of coworkers from Alberta, and even they agree that things are crazy.

23:31 <Cepheid> But we still love Alberta anyways.

23:31 <JackFruit> I wonder what country doesn't have separatistically minded people?

23:31 <Schism> Cepheid: How could we not?  They make our cheese.

23:31 <JackFruit> I mean Germany has Bayern with Texan mindset

23:31 <Cepheid> Schism:  I prefer the locally made cheese.

23:31 <Princess_Dreamer> I dunno.

23:31 <Cepheid> St. Alberts cheese, thank ye.

23:31 <Princess_Dreamer> I don't hear a lot about separatist Italians, or French.

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23:31 <JackFruit> Oh right, I have wasabi cheese

23:31 <Schism> Oh yeah, that's the stuff.  Especially cheese curds.

23:32 <JackFruit> Need to nom it now that cheese has been mentioned

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23:32 <Cepheid> That stuff is made literally an hour from me.

23:32 <Cepheid> We can drive there and get the fresh made stuff for cheap.

23:32 <Princess_Dreamer> Hm.

23:32 <Princess_Dreamer> Fraxure wants to learn Swords Dance. But I already have Dragon Dance.

23:33 <Schism> Cepheid: You simply must, when next you visit, pick up some Noah Martin's summer sausage.

23:33 <Schism> A couple of chubs thereof.  You can let them hang in a cool place and just stick 'em in your fridge when you open them up.

23:34 <Cepheid> Heh.

23:34 <Cepheid> Speaking of cool places..

23:34 <Cepheid> There's something odd that happened today

23:34 <Princess_Dreamer> Hm. Although.

23:34 <Schism> Does it involve your cats?

23:34 <Cepheid> A mouse decided it wanted to simply keel over and die in front of our freezer in the garage.

23:34 <Princess_Dreamer> I could replace Dragon Pulse, because Dragon Claw is already on Fraxure, and Fraxure is not a Special Hitter.

23:34 <Schism> ... Peculiar.

23:35 <Cepheid> Aye.

23:35 <Cepheid> Well, the freezer wasn't working well, so maybe the mouse did something to it, and it managed to craw out from underneath and then just die?

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23:35 <JackFruit> Mouse was sacrificed in front of their god: the mighty big white cold food storage box deity

23:35 <Schism> Or perhaps Spitfire or Tizzy figured that the best place to store a body was where they were sure you could see it.

23:36 <JackFruit> Oh cats love to do that

23:36 <Cepheid> Tizzy and Spitfire can't get into the garage.

23:36 <Schism> Ah.

23:36 <Cepheid> In fact, it's kind of odd there's a mouse there at all.

23:36 <JackFruit> We had a few cats who would hunt shrews and mice in the field and bring it at our doorstep

23:36 <Schism> Eh, they get everywhere.

23:36 <Cepheid> I've lived here since 2000, this is the first mouse I've seen in this city.  Ever.

23:37 <Schism> Odd.  Maybe it was hibernating in there?  Somehow...

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23:37 <JackFruit> One of the cats had a nack for order: he placed mice in a pretty even geometrical row, back-to-back

23:37 <JackFruit> Something rare to see for an animal

23:37 <Thelema5> Perhaps there's a growing colony of mice searching for a new outpost.

23:38 <JackFruit> Mice run away when they are being poisoned and may end up in weirdest places

23:38 <Cepheid> I dunno.

23:38 <JackFruit> They aren't "thinking" at that moment

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23:38 <Cepheid> But it's unusual to say the least.

23:38 <Thelema5> Certainly seems it.

23:38 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'll be back in a bit.  Gonna go take a shower before the drugs overwhelm me and I can't move.

23:38 <Schism> "Oh great icebox, release your bounties to us!"

23:38 <Cepheid> As I'm approaching that point.

23:38 <Thelema5> What are you going to do with the carcass?

23:39 <Cepheid> Thelema5:  Dispose of it in the garbage.

23:39 <Cepheid> I'm not giving it to the cats.  Spitfire would toss it around.

23:39 <Cepheid> Tizzy would just walk away.

23:39 <Thelema5> Seems like a waste.

23:39 <Schism> Since Cephy doesn't know the cause of death, it seems more prudent.

23:39 <Cepheid> Spitfire would kill a mouse by playing with it, and then paw at it wondering why it stopped moving.

23:39 <Cepheid> Indeed.

23:39 <Schism> If poison is the case, then you don't want your cats eating it.

23:40 <Cepheid> Plus there's no telling what's on/in that mouse as well.

23:40 <JackFruit> Oh dear I ate 2 slices of wasabi cheese and it was one too many

23:40 <Cepheid> Last thing I want is my cat getting sick from something, even if it wasn't poisoned.

23:40 <Cepheid> No, if I want my cat hunting mice, I'll either let it hunt mice that get into the house..

23:40 <Schism> Yeah, could be bacterial or viral.

23:40 <Thelema5> Yeah, that's a good point.

23:40 <Cepheid> Or go to the local pet store, buy some mice, and let them loose.

23:40 <JackFruit> It is a good idea to not let your cats consume mice

23:41 <Cepheid> And I'm not that cruel.

23:41 <Thelema5> I live in the country and my cats eat field mice as food

23:41 <Princess-Luna> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD3vVzAWIAIr3d8.jpg - Cats summed up.

23:41 <Cepheid> Thelema5:  Yeah, but around here..

23:41 <Thelema5> Point taken.

23:41 <JackFruit> Even if mice aren't poisoned (which they are simply due to use of pesticides in the field already), but they also do transmit a whole slew of diseases that carry over to cats

23:41 <Cepheid> This is the suburbs, and there are stories of people laying out traps for various animals.  Usually poison and such.

23:42 <Schism> Oh yeah, Cephy, new LCBO Food and Drink released today or at least in the past week.

23:42 <Cepheid> So it's better to not risk it.

23:42 * Thelema5 nods

23:42 <JackFruit> Our family had once an attack of cockroaches

23:42 <Schism> It's obviously an industry mag, but I'll never turn down a free cookbook of sorts.

23:42 <Cepheid> Heh.

23:42 <JackFruit> They were crawling out of all the holes at once

23:42 <Cepheid> Anyways, be back in a bit.  10-15 minutes tops.

23:43 <Schism> And yeah.  Gneeh.

23:43 <Princess_Dreamer> Huzzah! Haxorus!

23:43 <Thelema5> JackFruit, that's terrible.

23:43 <Thelema5> Insects freak me out.

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23:43 <JackFruit> There was an infestations a few floors above us, and they got treated, so they ran away...

23:43 <JackFruit> ...to us

23:44 <Princess_Dreamer> Welp!

23:44 <JackFruit> Luckily they didn't took hold in our home

23:44 <Princess_Dreamer> Time to fumegate the whole building!

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23:44 <JackFruit> It is enough to keep home clean, let cockroach poison traps around and plug all the water sources for them shut

23:45 <JackFruit> Cockroaches may survive on little food, but they can't survive without water

23:45 <Thelema5> Yeah, if you don't give 'em what they need, they won

23:45 <Princess_Dreamer> Well, the only reason I said to fumegate the whole building and not nuke it from orbit is because cockroaches would survive the nuke.

23:45 <Thelema5> Oops... won't stick around

23:45 <JackFruit> Actually not, they wouldn'T

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23:46 <JackFruit> Cockroaches are resilient to radiation, but only until they shed

23:46 <DinkyDoo> So bomb them with nukes still they shed?

23:47 <JackFruit> They use their genetic machinery only to shed an old shell, and that is the moment when radiation damages them

23:47 <Thelema5> Interesting.  So it's their hard shells which are impervious to radiation?

23:47 <JackFruit> No

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23:47 <Thelema5> Oh, I see.

23:47 <JackFruit> It is the fact that their DNA and RNA lay dormant most of the time so radiation cannot compromise it

23:47 <Princess_Dreamer> Radiation kills through DNA lesions.

23:48 <Princess_Dreamer> I think, at least.

23:48 <Thelema5> Wow.  That's pretty hardcore.

23:48 <JackFruit> Our DNA in comparison gets read, and re-read millions of times more than that of the cockroach

23:49 <Princess_Dreamer> Generally speaking background radiation actually causes us quite a few DNA lesions per day. It's just that we've got systems to compensate and fix.

23:49 <JackFruit> Eeyup

23:49 <JackFruit> And whales have even better systems in place

23:50 <Princess_Dreamer> It's ALSO true that without enough background radiation, we'd get sick and die.

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23:52 <JackFruit> I think it contributed to evolution big time

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23:52 * Schism takes a few steps outside, and smells the fertilizer in the air. "Ah, yes, it's spring again."

23:53 <JackFruit> XD

23:53 * Thelema5 takes a few steps outside and smells alpaca and horse manure. "Yes, I suppose it is".

23:54 <Schism> I simply must plant a few peppers.  Or pick up a small bag of naga jolokias... "Yup."

23:54 <Schism> Yeeeeup, that's the scent I've got here too.

23:54 <Thelema5> Schism, can you actually grown peppers up by you?

23:54 <Thelema5> I have the hardest time.

23:54 <Schism> I have the right locale to, and while I haven't yet, I know the process.

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23:55 <Thelema5> Jalapenos do alright, and habaneros struggle through... but my growing season is too short to really make it worthwhile.

23:55 <Schism> Mmm... same here, actually.  My growing season would be from April to September.

23:56 <Schism> Herbs would do fine, though.  Maybe I'll set up a garden comprised entirely of basil and make an absolutely ridiculous amount of pesto.

23:56 <Thelema5> Hmm.  You've a month longer than me.

23:56 <Thelema5> I lost half of my herb garden today.

23:56 <Thelema5> :(

23:56 <Schism> Erp.

23:56 * Schism hugs Thelema5.

23:56 <Schism> Late frost?

23:56 <Thelema5> I've been tending it for 13 years!

23:57 <JackFruit> Found a woman on youtube that teaches asian people to pronounce "R" sound, yet she has a thick canadian accent

23:57 <JackFruit> "aboot" and such

23:57 <Schism> There is no such thing as a Canadian accent.

23:57 <Schism> What you refer to is a Newfoundlander accent.

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23:58 <Thelema5> No, I had to replace my septic tank, and they excavated more than half of my back yard. http://i.imgur.com/7OskIGH.jpg

23:58 <Schism> Or, I suppose, more generally speaking, an east coastern accent.

23:58 <JackFruit> Yeah I am fairly ignorant in that area

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23:58 <Thelema5> That large mound of dirt /was/ my herb garden.

23:59 <Schism> JackFruit: Heh.  I have a sort of accent, I suppose, but the benefit of my upbringing is that I sound almost insanely /neutral/ in terms of locations.  Customers play a game of 'Where's he from?!' when they get me.

23:59 <Princess-Luna> Well, time to hit the hay. XD; Night all

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23:59 <Thelema5> 'night!

23:59 <Schism> Thelema5: ... ...

23:59 <JackFruit> Excavate? You didn't have it placed in a concrete shaft, Thelema5 ???

23:59 <Schism> ;_;

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23:59 <Schism> I mourn for your loss...

23:59 <Thelema5> No.  It's a 45 year old steel tank, JackFruit.

23:59 <JackFruit> A

23:59 <JackFruit> AH*

23:59 <Thelema5> Thanks, Schism.