Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2015-03-24

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00:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Spotlight Music: Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before / Sister [Vaceslav Cover]  [ http://tinyurl.com/na5un2p ]

00:02 <Cepheid> Ah, so I'm good either way.

00:03 * Cepheid is 28, going on 29 in two months. :P

00:06 <Storm_RainbowDash> !hug

00:06 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3

00:06 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around Storm_RainbowDash in a tight embrace

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00:09 <Cepheid> One thing I'm glad about regarding the whole Top Gear debacle right now..

00:09 <Cepheid> Is that we at least got to the Canada episode before it started. >.>

00:10 <Storm_RainbowDash> which version of top gear Cepheid

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00:12 <Cepheid> British Top Gear.

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00:12 <Storm_RainbowDash> nice

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00:13 <Cepheid> They had an episode where Hammond was abandoned on a mountain in BC, and Clarkson and May had to go rescue him.

00:13 <Storm_RainbowDash> nice

00:14 <mysticolt> h

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00:21 <Cepheid> .. So I just watched a clip of the LEGO Movie with Unikitty in it.  Now I can't imagine our own Unikitty speaking without her voice. >.>

00:21 <Tirek> You've ruined yourself.

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00:22 <fyrepony> hi AJ hows apple bloom?

00:22 <AJ> she's fine

00:22 <AJ> still can't find that cutie mark of hers

00:23 <Tirek> FUN DETECTED

00:23 <Tirek> Cease now.

00:23 * Cepheid gets Twilight to rainbow beam Tirek.

00:24 <Tirek> It does nothing.

00:25 <Tirek> Because I didn't steal magic.

00:25 <Tirek> And those ponies are too afraid to do the right thing and eliminate a threat.

00:25 <Tirek> So I stand.

00:26 <AJ> wat

00:26 <Tirek> What indeed.

00:26 <Tirek> I still breathe.

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00:26 * Cepheid gets some dwarves to build a wall around Tirek.

00:27 <Tirek> Cepheid, have your dwarves been working well lately?

00:27 <Cepheid> Building destroyers can't destroy dwarven walls!

00:27 <Tirek> Or did you give up again?

00:27 <Cepheid> The last time I played, two days ago, they were doing fine.  Building a path down to the bottom of the ravine.

00:28 <Cepheid> I'll probably play some more tonight.

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00:28 <Cepheid> I should probably start metalworking up soon to build armour and weapons.

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00:36 <Cepheid> Hum.

00:36 <Cepheid> I'm debating something.

00:36 <Cepheid> Should I take my Etrian Odyssey Untold team of misfits ALL THE WAY to the end?  Or should I relax the rules after the main campaign?

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00:36 <Cepheid> Since after the main campaign, there's another 5 floors, and several extremely powerful superbosses.

00:36 <Cepheid> I'm not sure even the misfits will be capable of taking them out.

00:37 <Cepheid> I mean, potentially they COULD, but it's risky.

00:38 <Cepheid> The Wyverns and Dragons are going to need elemental resistances out the wazoo, I'll need grimoire stones of unparalelled power, and defenses to withstand being struck by a truck.

00:39 <Cepheid> But if I relax the rules, and let other teammates into the party, I can get away with weaker defenses, or even take even less damage with the highest defense I have, thus giving me more of a buffer.

00:44 <Cepheid> If I did, I'd probably add Tirek.  Given your mentioning of a Wrestler dwarf, I'd imagine that Tirek would be a front line melee fighter.

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00:45 <Cepheid> So probably a Landsknecht using a sword or an axe, or that other class that uses whips to bind.

00:46 <Cepheid> But more than likely Landsknecht due to the pure damage output.

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00:46 <Cepheid> Cepheid would be the protector, taking the pain for everyone, having the highest defense and all the skills that draw attention to him.

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00:48 <Cavy> hello everyone

00:49 <Tirek> Is Schism around?

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00:53 <Cepheid> SCHISM!  YOU AROUND!?  I NEED A RECIPE FOR SOME NACHOS!

00:53 <Cepheid> ... If that didn't bring him, then no, he's not.

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00:56 <Tirek> Darn

00:57 <Cepheid> What do ye need him for?

00:57 <Tirek> I wanted to ask him what the DSFix for Skyrim was for

00:57 <Tirek> Because all I get when I search for it is Dark Souls Fix.

00:58 <Cepheid> DSFix in what sense?

00:58 <Tirek> He said that if I get the unofficial skyrim patch, I need another mod called DSFix.

00:59 <Cepheid> Oh, wait, I think I know what he's talking about.  Guh, hold on a moment..

00:59 * Cepheid tries to think.

00:59 <Cepheid> SKSE

00:59 <Tirek> Oh.

01:00 <Cepheid> Skyrim Script Extender

01:00 <Tirek> Already got it.

01:00 <Cepheid> That's probably what he's talking about.

01:00 <Cepheid> It's the only thing that comes to mind that's like DSFix.

01:00 <Tirek> I dunno about that, since, from what I saw, the unofficial patch doesn't need it.

01:00 <Cepheid> If I see Schism, I'll ask him regardless.

01:01 <Cepheid> Otherwise, the only thing I can think of otherwise..

01:01 <Cepheid> Is visual mods that improve lighting.

01:01 <Cepheid> Did he describe what the tool did, at the least?

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01:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: Which Character Do You Think Needs More Airtime in Season 5?  [ http://tinyurl.com/mvalent ]

01:03 <Tirek> I'll have to look back into the logs now

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01:04 <Tirek> (1:26:29 PM) Schism: Tirek: Be sure you grab DSFix if you get the Unofficial patch, so that brawls don't dissolve into actual combat.

01:06 <Cepheid> Huh.

01:07 <Cepheid> Schism's probably working at the moment, unfortunately.

01:07 <Cepheid> Or sleeping.

01:07 <Tirek> Oh well.

01:07 <Cepheid> !stats

01:07 <Unikitty|Away> http://stats.unixkitty.net/EquestriaDaily/

01:07 <Tirek> I did get all the mods he did recommend aside from that one.

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01:08 <Tirek> As well as a few others that modified the game in ways aside from bugfixing/aesthetics.

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01:18 <Cephy-EOU> Time to FINISH THIS.  The Etreant shall PERISH!

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01:21 <Cephy-EOU> Oh, nice.  Direct shortcut to the boss door.  I'll need to keep that in mind when I get there to open it.

01:23 <Nilak_the_dragoness> Etrian Odyssey series are Dungeon Crawlers, right?

01:24 <Cephy-EOU> Yeah.

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01:26 <Cephy-EOU> Some things never change..  Long northern roundabout around the top of the map on B25F.

01:26 <Cephy-EOU> Which means the boss is in the exact same spot as last time.

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01:30 <Cephy-EOU> ...

01:30 <Cephy-EOU> Tirek:  Topical.  Skyrim, anyways.

01:31 <Cephy-EOU> I was talking to someone on Twitter about EO4.  I mentioned the Imperial class.

01:31 <Cephy-EOU> I got a tweet from a bot.  AngryStormcloak.  "The Imperials think us lawless beasts.  I am proof of their ignorance."

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01:32 <Tirek> Ha.

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01:34 * Merasmus 's mind flashes back to when he and a certain moon princess switched roles in the pool.

01:34 <Merasmus> aw crap

01:34 <Merasmus> i hate my computer

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01:39 <Cephy-EOU> That almost ended badly.

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01:54 <Storm_RainbowDash> !flip

01:54 * DerpyBot flips a muffin

01:54 * DerpyBot catches the muffin with her hoof, upside down

01:56 * Storm_RainbowDash flies up to his cloud to watch Pokemon the First Movie

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01:57 <Cephy-EOU> Knew it.  I should have returned.

01:57 <Cephy-EOU> But nope, had to try and stay down.

01:57 <Cephy-EOU> And I paid the price.

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02:00 <Cephy-EOU> It's always a team of monsters you never want.

02:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Nightly Discussion #299 [ http://tinyurl.com/oqzd3jf ]

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02:05 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

02:05 <Cephy-EOU> Hoi.

02:05 <Storm_RainbowDash> Howdy Thelema5

02:06 <Thelema5> What's new?

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02:15 <Cephy-EOU> And here we are.  Final boss of the campaign.

02:16 <Cephy-EOU> Let's see how out of my element I am.

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02:21 <Cephy-EOU> SUNUVA-  That HURT!  Did a party-wide attack, nearly killed everyone in one shot.

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02:31 <Cephy-EOU> Dang.  I was doing good, then he wiped my party near the end..

02:31 <Cephy-EOU> I need better restoratives for TP.

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02:34 <Cephy-EOU> Lapis Strawberries..

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02:34 * Solo_Act sneaks. o3o

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02:41 <Cephy-EOU> Gods, why are these items SO RARE!?

02:43 <Solo_Act> be...cause they're undercooked? 0.o

02:43 <Cephy-EOU> Heh.

02:43 <Cephy-EOU> I'm trying to find some rare items to make some restoratives in this game.

02:44 <Solo_Act> what game?

02:45 <Thelema5> Try this one: http://iloveyoulikeafatladylovesapples.com/

02:45 <Cephy-EOU> Etrian Odyssey Untold.

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02:48 <Solo_Act> Thelema5!!! Nossy!!

02:48 * Solo_Act consecutively critical-glomps the two ponies!!

02:48 <Thelema5> yay!

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02:49 <idk> n8

02:49 <idk> m8

02:49 <idk> b8

02:49 <idk> l8

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02:49 <idk> t8

02:50 <idk> g8

02:50 <idk> gr8

02:50 <idk> b8

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02:50 <idk> m8

02:50 <idk> wuld

02:50 <idk> r8

02:50 <idk> 8

02:50 <idk> .

02:50 <Cephy-EOU> Lenfant_Sauvage.

02:50 <idk> 8

02:50 <Cephy-EOU> Sketchy_Sounds.

02:50 <idk> the person above me is a clopper

02:50 <Solo_Act> that'd be below, "m8".

02:51 <idk> ih

02:51 <Thelema5> OKay, that's quite enough.  Mods

02:51 <idk> oh

02:51 <idk> sorry m8

02:51 <idk> riparoni

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02:51 <Cephy-EOU> Googie?

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02:52 <Thelema5> Mike_Coltfield ?

02:52 <Thelema5> :p

02:52 <Solo_Act> Stradiverra?

02:52 <idk> slurp

02:52 <Thelema5> Nedemai will take care of this!

02:52 <idk> slurpppp

02:52 <Nedemai> O.o

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02:52 <nice> wot

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02:52 <Nedemai> -.-

02:52 <Thelema5> Thanksie!

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02:55 <Thelema5> Hello, Honeycomb.

02:55 <Honeycomb> ohai

02:55 <Thelema5> Welcome to a chat!

02:56 <Cephy-EOU> Right, prepared this time.  Let's try again.

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02:56 <Thelema5> Good luck!

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02:57 * ProncessKurs spots Thelema5, hugs!

02:57 <Thelema5> Honeycomb, are you new around here?

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02:57 * Thelema5 is hugged and hugs back!

02:57 <Honeycomb> in a manner of speaking

02:57 <ProncessKurs> Yay newpone!

02:57 <Cephy-EOU> Lenfant has near 400 TP.  Along with 12 Amritas, hopefully this is enough to kill this monster this time.

02:57 <ProncessKurs> For you: http://tinyurl.com/ptocqbj !

02:58 <Honeycomb> tbh I only came into this chat because it's the default on EQD's chat embed

02:58 <Thelema5> Yes, this is the lobby.

02:58 <Thelema5> Were you looking for another channel?

02:58 <Sketchy_Sounds> What monster you up against, Cephy-EOU?

02:58 <Honeycomb> Yeah, I know how it works tho >_>

02:58 <Cephy-EOU> The Etreant.

02:58 <Sketchy_Sounds> OH GOD

02:59 <Cephy-EOU> And I'm using a terrible team for it.

02:59 <Sketchy_Sounds> I hope you brought plenty of fire magic

02:59 <Thelema5> Well, have fun, Honeycomb.

02:59 <Honeycomb> thx

02:59 <Cephy-EOU> Survivalist and Troubadour in the front row.  Medic, Alchemist and Hexer in the back row.

03:00 <Sketchy_Sounds> How many heal-capable members are in your team?

03:00 <Sketchy_Sounds> Because if it's not two or more, you've already lost.

03:00 * Flashy noms Sketchy_Sounds

03:00 <Cephy-EOU> Two.  Troubadour can cast Healing Lullaby and the Medic.  I also got tons of Soma Primes, and my Survivalist has Efficiency maxed out.

03:00 <Cephy-EOU> And always goes first.

03:01 <Sketchy_Sounds> You might stand a chance then. Maybe.

03:01 <Cephy-EOU> My first attempt went well.

03:01 <Cephy-EOU> I got it down to 20%.  I just ran out of TP is all.

03:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: That Crazy Drumming Game in Japan Now Has a Pony Mod  [ http://tinyurl.com/ls7czck ]

03:01 <Thelema5> !link treant

03:01 <Cephy-EOU> With Amritas and boosting the TP of my alchemist by 100, I stand a better chance now.

03:01 <DerpyBot> Twilight says she doesn't have anything in the library about that

03:01 <Thelema5> TP = toilet paper?

03:03 <Cephy-EOU> In any case..

03:03 <Cephy-EOU> This boss isn't TOO hard for me.

03:03 <Cephy-EOU> I'm sort of a veteran to the EO series.

03:04 <Cephy-EOU> I actually defeated every boss of EO4.

03:04 <Cephy-EOU> Thelema5:  Technique Points.

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03:06 <Evil_Spike> Hey guys.

03:07 <Cephy-EOU> Sketchy_Sounds:  Honestly, you haven't seen pain until you faced off against the true end boss of an EO game.

03:07 <Cephy-EOU> The Etreant is WEAK in comparison to those things.

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03:07 <Sketchy_Sounds> Oh, I know that

03:07 <Evil_Spike> Hey Pi

03:07 <Pi> Mooorning

03:08 <Sketchy_Sounds> I've beaten just about everything in EOU bar the end boss so far.

03:08 <Sketchy_Sounds> I just never got around to finishing the game yet because I'm likely going to have to grind for a bit.

03:08 <Evil_Spike> Well, Netflix just launched here and uni isn't allowing access.

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03:09 <Cephy-EOU> Heh.

03:09 <Cephy-EOU> I beat the end-boss of EO4.

03:09 <Cephy-EOU> That thing was a beast.

03:10 <Evil_Spike> Also, Australia doesn't quite have all the content of the US...

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03:10 <Cephy-EOU> Just unimaginable in strength.  I was around level 92 average when I killed it, and even then I just barely scraped by.

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03:11 <User_995925> hey everypony! listen, I require assistance... you see, I'll ve out of the US the day season 5 is aired

03:11 <Evil_Spike> Would anyone like to see the amount of shows missing from the Australian Netflix library?

03:12 <User_995925> is there any way to watch it online?

03:12 <Sketchy_Sounds> People usually stream it

03:12 <Evil_Spike> Yes.

03:12 <Evil_Spike> ^

03:12 <Sketchy_Sounds> EQD will likely have links closer to the time.

03:12 <Thelema5> That.

03:12 <Cephy-EOU> OOOOH NO YOU DON'T!  Metopon GOOOO!

03:12 <Evil_Spike> Bronystate and Bronytv are likely to stream the episode. Not sure what's happening with HaxMega.

03:13 <User_995925> lulz, rly?

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03:13 <Evil_Spike> How do you think the international bronies are able to watch episodes live?

03:14 <Beans> The magic of internet~

03:14 <Cephy-EOU> Dang.

03:14 <Evil_Spike> Indeed.

03:14 <Cephy-EOU> He beat me.  Kept spamming party-wide attacks.

03:14 <User_995925> IDK... actually I'm kinda new at this brony stuff

03:14 <User_995925> couple of months tops

03:14 <Thelema5> Oh!  Well, welcome to the herd!

03:14 <Evil_Spike> Welcome to the herd.

03:14 <Evil_Spike> !link welcome

03:14 <User_995925> thx

03:14 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/2604?scope=scped9f2a3e64a1ec52b748e354973ab4355af4c9da2

03:15 <Pi> Choo choo!!!

03:15 <Thelema5> Why not choose a nick which is easier for us to remember?  You can change it by typing /nick NewNickHere

03:15 <Pi> Nah that nick is perfect

03:15 <User_995925> hahaha

03:15 <Thelema5> Yeah, heh

03:15 <User_995925> yeah

03:15 <Pi> I can totally tell you apart from everyone else

03:15 <User_995925> lulz

03:16 <Thelema5> I could really go for a taco.

03:16 <Cephy-EOU> Ah well, I needed more items anyways..

03:16 * Cephy-EOU goes back, grabs more Somaprimes.

03:16 <Evil_Spike> Strangely enough, it is Taco Tuesday Thelema5

03:16 <Thelema5> Still Monday here, Evil_Spike.

03:16 <User_995925> tru dat

03:17 <Evil_Spike> Tuesday here.

03:17 <Thelema5> GIMME YER TACOS!

03:17 * Evil_Spike throws tacos at Thelema

03:17 <Thelema5> Yus!

03:17 * Thelema5 noms

03:18 <Thelema5> !stats

03:18 <Unikitty|Away> http://stats.unixkitty.net/EquestriaDaily/

03:18 <User_995925> it's nice to see a nice internet comunity every once in a while

03:18 <Cephy-EOU> Attempt #3.

03:19 <Thelema5> We're pretty harmless here, user.

03:19 <Evil_Spike> ^

03:19 <Evil_Spike> I wouldn't say "nice".

03:19 <User_995925> how about... unified?

03:19 <Thelema5> Just a bunch of pones hanging out sincerely enjoying candy colored magical miniature horses.

03:20 <Evil_Spike> How about tolerant?

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03:20 <User_995925> sounds legit

03:20 <Thelema5> User, where do you expect to be for the season 5 premier?

03:21 <User_995925> Mexico... business trip

03:21 <Thelema5> Oh!  We have a couple of regular channel users from Mexico.

03:21 <User_995925> all the tacos are belong to us

03:21 <Evil_Spike> How is your internet?

03:21 <Thelema5> Quite!

03:21 <User_995925> o rly?

03:22 <Evil_Spike> We have users from all over the world.

03:22 <User_995925> no issues with the conection or speed whatsoever

03:22 <Thelema5> Yep.

03:22 <Thelema5> !seen librarian

03:22 <DerpyBot> Thelema5: The last time I saw librarian was 2015-03-23 20:17:10 UTC

03:24 <User_995925> I'm really hyped about season 5

03:25 <Evil_Spike> I'm not.

03:26 <User_995925> y?

03:26 <Evil_Spike> Being in this fandom for 3.5 years makes you kind of meh towards things.

03:26 <Evil_Spike> Including new episodes.

03:26 <User_995925> rly?

03:26 <Thelema5> Can't agree there.

03:26 <Thelema5> I'm psyched.

03:27 <RightHoofGone> just 16d left

03:27 <Sketchy_Sounds> !s5

03:27 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 11d:12h:33m:32s

03:27 <Evil_Spike> My hype levels for Season 5 are around the same level as my hype for The Witcher 3. Not really excited for either, but will still watch/play.

03:27 <Sketchy_Sounds> 11 days.

03:27 <RightHoofGone> hmm

03:27 <Thelema5> I'm not looking forward to all the fan drama following the new eps.. but I'm very, very excited for season 5.

03:27 <RightHoofGone> i misplaced 5 days

03:27 <RightHoofGone> what a happy surprise

03:28 <User_995925> meh... i guess it really deppends on the person, I kinde see what you both mean

03:28 <Evil_Spike> What I am excited for though is new episodes of Wander over Yonder.

03:28 <Cephy-EOU> I'm going to win this time, Etreant.  I WILL!

03:29 <Thelema5> I'm going to have a micro season-5 party with noisemakers, sweetened breakfest cereal, and party hats

03:29 <User_995925> SOOOOO HARDCORE!!

03:29 <Honeycomb> for s4 I waited until every episode was already out and then marathoned them all at once

03:29 <User_995925> hahahahaha

03:29 <Thelema5> Of course it'll just be me and my partner.  But it's better than nothing!

03:29 <Cephy-EOU> "Defeated Etreant!"

03:30 <Evil_Spike> Though that does remind me to get on with planning my meetup for that day.

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03:30 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Ok guys.

03:30 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Join me if you know!

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03:30 <Sketchy_Sounds> Grats, Cephy-EOU!

03:30 <Thelema5> Cephy-EOU, YAY!

03:30 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Prepare for trouble!

03:30 <Evil_Spike> Make it double.

03:31 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> To protect the world from devastation!

03:31 <Evil_Spike> To unite all people within our nation!

03:31 <Cephy-EOU> Now to move onto the Claret Hollows.

03:32 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> To denouce the evils of truth and love.

03:32 <Evil_Spike> To extend our reach to the stars above.

03:32 * The_Nostalgia_Mare poses. "Jessie!"

03:32 * ProncessKurs noms on Sketchy_Sounds

03:32 * Evil_Spike poses. "James".

03:32 <hoofy> .........did iwalk in to team rocket.....................

03:32 <Evil_Spike> Yes. Yes you did.

03:32 <User_995925> well guys, I need to run, thanks for the info! and... I think I'll keep the username! lulz

03:33 <RightHoofGone> yes, yes you did

03:33 * Sketchy_Sounds sends Pac-Man after hoofy to eat all those unnecessary dots

03:33 <RightHoofGone> whoa

03:33 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Team Rocket blasts at the speed of light!

03:33 <RightHoofGone> first dat lag, and wording

03:33 <Evil_Spike> Surrender now, or prepare to fight!

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03:34 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Meow That's right!

03:34 <Sketchy_Sounds> **Meowth

03:34 * hoofy flys up

03:34 <Evil_Spike> There we go. I remember when Pokemon first premiered on Cheez TV.

03:34 * ProncessKurs boops hoofy

03:34 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Ok curious.

03:34 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> !link Team Rocket

03:34 <DerpyBot> https://derpiboo.ru/618409

03:34 <Evil_Spike> It was hyped as being a big event a few weeks earlier.

03:35 * hoofy boops bacck

03:35 * ProncessKurs wiggles

03:35 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Oh my gosh.

03:35 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> That is perfect.

03:35 <RightHoofGone> that is great

03:39 <Thelema5> ProncessKurs, welcome to the boopinator 3000!

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03:39 <ProncessKurs> o3o

03:39 * Thelema5 rapidfire boops ProncessKurs!

03:39 * ProncessKurs explodes!

03:39 * Thelema5 machinegunfires boops ProncessKurs!

03:39 * ProncessKurs explodes again!

03:40 * Thelema5 magetitofire BOOPS ProncessKurs!

03:40 * ProncessKurs explodes thrice.

03:40 * Thelema5 MEGASUPERFATALITYFIRE Boops ProncessKurs!

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03:41 * ProncessKurs creates a new universe

03:41 * Thelema5 expands that universe, and it contains equestria!

03:41 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Time to sleep.

03:42 <RightHoofGone> night

03:42 <Thelema5> G'Night!

03:42 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Night.

03:42 *** Parts: The_Nostalgia_Mare (Idention@Pony-ja80fn.fl.comcast.net) ("Remember or I will have to do it for you.")

03:43 <Thelema5> I wish my nerves would behave themselves.

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03:44 <Cephy-EOU> The Claret Hollows.  I wonder if this time I'll be able to clear them.

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03:46 <RightHoofGone> !plot

03:46 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*

03:46 <RightHoofGone> *wigglewiggle*

03:46 <Storm_RainbowDash> *wigglewiggle*

03:48 <Ether> Plot, plot everywhere, as far as the eye can see...

03:48 <Ether> *wigglewiggle*

03:49 <RightHoofGone> booty booty booty

03:49 <Thelema5> *wigglewiggle*

03:49 <Starthunder> *wigglewiggle*

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03:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

03:51 <Thelema5> I may not be around in chat much over the coming weeks.  My personal working enviroment has undergone a significant rapid change which may adversely affect my ability to meet and interact with ya'll in the days to come.

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03:52 <Thelema5> This will only affect my activity from 9:00 PM EST to 5:00 PM EST.

03:52 <Thelema5> I will still be present and accounted for, but perhaps less active.

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03:53 * Lenfant_Sauvage patpats Thelema5 while simultaneously waving at Ali.

03:53 <RightHoofGone> whoa, as 2100 to 1700

03:53 <RightHoofGone> ?

03:53 * Ali squeaks

03:53 <Thelema5> Oh, hi Ali.

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03:58 <Evil_Spike> And then the guy across from me doesn't notice the two guys laughing next to me about the computer next to him being unplugged for no reason, believing that the computer doesn't work.

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03:59 <Evil_Spike> Because there is no indication that the computer actually doesn't work.

03:59 <Evil_Spike> /sacasm.

04:00 <Evil_Spike> Be back in a second guys.

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04:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Music of the Day #467 [ http://tinyurl.com/pwfmv7z ]

04:03 <Thelema5> Is there anypony here with a MS diagnosis?

04:06 <Thelema5> Or ALS?

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04:08 <Thelema5> Hello!@

04:10 <Thelema5> Well, then.  Goodnight everypony!

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04:12 <Cephy-shower> Right, so here's the problem.  I made it this far with a team of misfits.  I don't think I can go much further with the same team.  The problem isn't so much the team is weak, but rather, supply of powerful gear.

04:12 *** Cephy-shower is now known as Cepheid

04:13 <Cepheid> As a result, I'm going to start creating new team members.  Who wants to be part of my Etrian Odyssey guild "Misfits"?

04:13 <Cepheid> I need a couple of characters who can pull off things like poison, curse status, mass binding, and instant death.

04:13 <Sketchy_Sounds> I can be if I'm not already :p

04:13 <Cepheid> You're not.

04:13 <Sketchy_Sounds> You better make me a Highlander.

04:14 <Sketchy_Sounds> (They can do instant death btw)

04:14 <Sketchy_Sounds> And they can also do most of the other stuff you mentioned.

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04:16 <Cepheid> Heh.

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04:16 <Cepheid> Problem with that.

04:16 <Cepheid> I didn't start with Story Mode first.  And secondly..

04:16 <Cepheid> Classic Mode doesn't let you make Highlanders or Gunners.

04:16 <Evil_Spike> Some people have no concept of how patient you have to be sometimes with IT.

04:16 <Sketchy_Sounds> Well dang

04:17 <Cepheid> The only way to get either of those classes in Classic Mode is to do Story Mode first, then do New Game+.

04:17 <Cepheid> You can bring over the characters from Story Mode.

04:17 <Cepheid> There... IS a way to get the skills though.

04:17 <Cepheid> And use the weapons.

04:18 <Cepheid> And in fact, to be honest, many of the missing skills could also be filled via the same method, but the problem is that it's too random.

04:18 <Evil_Spike> Or they assume that just because something looks broken on IT that it can't be fixed. One of my regular sayings is that "computers are like women. Push the right buttons and they'll do anything for you".

04:18 <Sketchy_Sounds> That's wonderfully sexist! :D

04:18 <Cepheid> ...

04:18 * Cepheid kicks Evil_Spike.

04:19 <Evil_Spike> You can apply the same logic to a man.

04:19 <Pi> lol backtracking

04:19 <Sketchy_Sounds> Then the saying should be that people are like computers :p

04:19 <Pi> ^

04:19 <Evil_Spike> Ok, I retract my statement.

04:19 <Cepheid> ...

04:19 <Cepheid> Has this option always been there?

04:20 <Cepheid> "Change Class"

04:20 <Pi> What game?

04:20 <Cepheid> Etrian Odyssey Untold.

04:21 *** Reia_Away is now known as Reia_Hope

04:21 <Cepheid> Anyways..

04:21 <Sketchy_Sounds> Change Class kicks in around level 30.

04:21 <Bubble-Berry> o3o

04:23 <Cepheid> I never noticed it, heh.

04:24 <Cepheid> So paralysis and poison come from medics.  Interesting.

04:24 <Cepheid> I need a Ronin, though, for instant death.

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04:25 <Cepheid> That good with you Sketchy?

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04:25 <Sketchy_Sounds> I can be that.

04:26 <Cepheid> I also need a Dark Hunter.  Who's game for that?  They're all abound bindings, status effects and whips.

04:26 <Cepheid> If no one speaks up, I'll pick a random person of my liking.

04:26 * Lenfant_Sauvage hides. ||3o

04:26 <Cepheid> You're already on the team Lenfant.

04:26 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Oh?

04:26 <Cepheid> In fact, you're the most useful member of the party bar the Medic.

04:27 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Woo!

04:27 <Cepheid> Lenfant, the Alchemist.

04:27 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Oh, nice, I"ll take that happily. o3o U

04:27 <Cepheid> You're a raging magic user of destruction.  You dealt the most damage to the Etreant and landed the final blow.

04:28 <Cepheid> Anyways, since no one's speaking up, I'll make Unikitty the Dark Hunter.

04:28 <Evil_Spike> Unfortunately, I appear to have misplaced my iPad...

04:28 <Cepheid> Also need a Landsknecht.  For that..  Bubble-Berry.

04:28 <Evil_Spike> I think it may be time to change some passwords.

04:28 *** init3_1 is now known as init3

04:28 <Cepheid> Unless init3 wants the Landsknecht.

04:28 <Bubble-Berry> I need a what for what?

04:28 <Cepheid> Landsknecht being the grandmasters of melee damage.

04:29 <Cepheid> I'm building the missing party members for the Misfits guild in Etrian Odyssey Untold.

04:29 <Cepheid> To fill in the gaps for Grimoire Stone generation and killing stuff.

04:29 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Landsknecht I think roughly translates to "ground soldier" i.e. infantry.

04:29 <init3> I'm confus

04:29 <Cepheid> Yep.

04:29 <Cepheid> I'm naming my characters after chat members.

04:30 <init3> Haha kickass.

04:30 <Cepheid> You want to be the Landsknecht then?

04:30 <Cepheid> Want it to be named "init3"?  Or use another name?

04:30 <init3> Dunno, I got nothin as far as handles go.

04:31 <Cepheid> Then you break the tradition of proper names.

04:31 <Cepheid> "init3" it is.

04:31 <Cepheid> Anyways, we need money for gear, so I need to go down and scavange some stuff.

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04:33 <Cepheid> Best floor to do that would be B22F.

04:33 <Cepheid> There's a grand total of 8 chop points on it.

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04:45 <newfrickinshow> So anyone on?

04:46 <init3> #equestriadaily - 120 nicks (12 ops) irc.canternet.org - Lag: 47ms

04:47 <init3> I'd say so

04:47 <newfrickinshow> I just had fun.

04:47 <newfrickinshow> An hour and a half on a podcast watched live by 3,400 people.

04:48 <newfrickinshow> Large chunks of that being some of the biggest and worst trolls on the internet.

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04:52 <KooK_> March winds and April showers...

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04:54 <Cepheid> Level 1, and Sketchy_Sounds has over 200 HP.

04:55 * Sketchy_Sounds flexes

04:55 <KooK_> King Shadow is best pony

04:55 <Cepheid> I put the Town Medal on him.

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04:58 <KooK_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvX1SM4aeo

04:58 * Cepheid murderlates Fenrir.

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04:59 <Knight_Dash> Hey, guys.

05:01 <KooK_> yo

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05:01 <KooK> !stats

05:01 <Unikitty|Away> http://stats.unixkitty.net/EquestriaDaily/

05:02 <Cepheid> This is getting tiresome Fenrir.

05:03 * Cepheid was killing his minions for fun since Fenrir couldn't do more than 10 damage a hit.

05:03 <init3> Ooh, I mad der stats list?

05:03 <init3> Now to remember how to set a picture.

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05:06 <init3> Ok, I haven't a clue. I sorta remember how to do it on Owlicious but that's not exactly helpful.

05:07 <Cepheid> Next boss...  Cernunnos.

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05:12 <RightHoofGone> hmm rhg135 and I aren't the same person

05:12 <Flashy> quick question

05:13 <Flashy> Princess_Sketchy_Sounds is best Princess?

05:13 <Sketchy_Sounds> You cut that out young man

05:14 <Flashy> im gonna go with yes

05:14 <Flashy> <3 Princess_Sketchy_Sounds

05:14 <Knight_Dash> "Luna is best the princess"

05:14 <Sketchy_Sounds> Flashy: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/913/758/a12.jpg

05:15 <RightHoofGone> goodnight everypony!

05:15 * Flashy giggle fits

05:18 * Flashy glomps Ali

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05:20 <KooK> I need some chicken and waffles

05:21 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I'm ashamed to admit that I have never partaken in chicken and waffles.

05:21 <Knight_Dash> I've never had chick -

05:21 <Knight_Dash> Same.

05:21 <Starwatcher> one of those days where I just want to tell everyone I know that I’m sorry for being so stupid

05:21 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I've had chicken. I've had waffles. But not at the same time.

05:21 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Huh?

05:21 <Knight_Dash> Likewise.

05:21 <Knight_Dash> What's wrong, Starwatcher?

05:22 <KooK> Dude, fried chicken on top of waffles dripping in maple syrup?

05:22 <KooK> How have you not tried this...

05:22 <Starwatcher> I just need to be smarter. Not enough of my things work right

05:22 <Knight_Dash> Don't be so hard on yourself. We all mess things up.

05:25 <init3> I had no idea those foods went together.

05:25 <KooK> Dude...

05:25 <KooK> It's standard 'Sweet and salty'

05:25 <Knight_Dash> If you want to talk about it, though, I'm sure we'd be willing to listen. And if I know anything about the people in this chat, they won't judge.

05:25 <KooK> beautifuly so, it's like Bacon and Waffles, but Chicken.

05:26 <Knight_Dash> (And I know about chicken and waffles being a thing, but I've never had it. and I never will now because I've been vegetarian for years)

05:26 <init3> Also if you want to feel better I could talk about the time I did the dumbest thing of my life and ended up in jail for 9 months. Bet you weren't that stupid 'cause you are online.

05:27 <init3> And technically I'm a genius.

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05:27 <init3> Wooo

05:27 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

05:27 <Knight_Dash> Hello, ConfusionRift. :)

05:27 <KooK> yo

05:29 * Knight_Dash pokes Starwatcher.

05:29 <ConfusionRift> Feeling alright, and just chillin'.

05:29 * Starwatcher drops one ear, but nudges with his nose back

05:29 <Knight_Dash> Did you see what init and I were saying?

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05:30 <ConfusionRift> Nope. Just joined in.

05:30 <Starwatcher> me? yes.

05:30 <Starwatcher> am thinking.

05:31 <Knight_Dash> I was asking Starwatcher, ConfusionRift.

05:31 <ConfusionRift> Whoops, sorry.

05:32 <Knight_Dash> No worries, I didn't exactly specify.

05:33 <init3> Ok fine Starwatcher. Look... did you try to steal a bunch of crap from a state police officer's shed? Pretty sure you didn't. Just sayin'.

05:34 <Starwatcher> I… no.

05:34 <Starwatcher> I pirate a lot of stuff though =p

05:34 <Cepheid> Time to see if Sketchy is good enough to OHKO the Golem.

05:34 <ConfusionRift> Oh, this.

05:34 <Sketchy_Sounds> My blade, and my spirit, are ready.

05:34 <init3> Well... i suppose technically I was successful. But wasn't arrested more than 24 hours hence.

05:34 <Knight_Dash> So you're the one who took my gold doubloons!

05:35 <init3> Totes

05:35 <Starwatcher> heh.

05:35 <Cepheid> Hopefully the condition hasn't changed...

05:36 <init3> I mean, to be serious there was a lot going on back then... several mental health problems, a really absolutely terrible and literally sociopathic girlfriend and sort of getting blackmailed.  

05:36 <init3> Way past that life to be clear.

05:37 <ConfusionRift> I should just try to finish Shinobi 3, and then... maybe some Magicite.

05:37 <Starwatcher> what brought you out of it?

05:38 <init3> Perspective. The girlfriend bailing/snitching on me. Mental health care. Addiction semi-recovery.

05:39 <Starwatcher> I am.. glad you are better

05:39 <Knight_Dash> Wow, that sounds rough.

05:39 <ConfusionRift> It does.

05:40 <init3> Eh... subjectively better. I wouldn't say totally better. That "semi" part should tell you something.

05:40 <init3> You reap what you sew.

05:40 <Knight_Dash> Getting there, though?

05:41 <Starwatcher> sometimes we are just dealt a bad hand.

05:41 <init3> To be completely honest, I don't even know. I mean, I used to be an every day user but I still don't go much longer than a week or two.

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05:42 <init3> I feel like I am doing better but my friends and family seem to think I'm worthless unless I am completely done.

05:42 * Starwatcher hugs

05:43 <init3> Thanks. I mean, I honestly don't think I'll ever get to that point. But this isn't about me.

05:43 <init3> Starwatcher needs to feel better

05:44 <Starwatcher> perhaps we both do.

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05:45 * Starwatcher nudges with his nose, and sits quietly beside.

05:46 <init3> :)

05:46 <init3> I've gone beyone beating myself over it is sort of the point I am making in a very roundabout way.

05:46 <init3> *beyond

05:46 <Cepheid> Sketchy_Sounds:  So far, in your attempt to behead a giant stone golem, you've dealt over 3000 damage to it, at about 60 damage a strike.

05:48 <Starwatcher> am working on it. I just don’t like who I am.

05:48 <Sketchy_Sounds> Sooner or later, my blade shall find its mark.

05:48 <init3> Neither do I.

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05:49 <init3> But you can learn to live with yourself at least.

05:50 <Knight_Dash> There are things I don't like about myself, but I recognize the positives too - and remain hopeful that I can improve on the negatives.

05:50 <Knight_Dash> None of us are perfect.

05:50 <init3> True dat.

05:51 <init3> I mean, I don't think I can say I like myself overall, but I do recognize the strengths I've got. Doesn't hurt I've started to really take some care in my appearance. I've honestly found that quite helpful.

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05:52 <init3> Regardless of whether anyone actually sees me. For me that's beside the point.

05:53 <init3> I honestly think part of the reason I started doing that was marshmallow pone.

05:54 <Starwatcher> ?

05:54 <Cepheid> Unfortunately it ended in failure.

05:54 <Starwatcher> https://derpiboo.ru/838381?scope=scpe57ab88eafb21555db14bd9914930dbf3b522e821

05:55 <Cepheid> I used up every resource I had, every single attempt (100+) failed.

05:55 <init3> Sort of like that Starwatcher.

05:56 <init3> Hell, I even have a stick of cover-up for some small facial scars I wear sometimes.

05:57 <init3> Because... why the hell not?

05:57 <init3> F da police.

05:59 <Cepheid> Right then, since his stats are probably still too low(It's probably a combination of level and some stat that affects success rate) I guess some power leveling is still in order.

06:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Nightly Roundup #1161 [ http://tinyurl.com/p6w62gv ]

06:02 <Starwatcher> I am… kind of sleepy - goodnight everyone, take care

06:02 <ConfusionRift> Laters Starwatcher.

06:02 <init3> Night

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06:05 * ConfusionRift|16b dies. "On second thought... maybe another game."

06:07 <Cepheid> Etrian Odyssey 1!

06:07 <Knight_Dash> Does anyone have a Deviantart account? I want to point something out to someone on the comments for an MLP pic

06:07 <Knight_Dash> but I don't have an account.

06:08 <ConfusionRift|16b> I'm unsure as to why you ask.

06:08 <Knight_Dash> Well, I'd like someone to point it out to that person for me

06:09 <ConfusionRift|16b> Oh, I see.

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06:10 <Knight_Dash> Would you happen to have a Deviantart account? It'll only take a minute.

06:10 <Cepheid> I... don't think the devs quite planned for this.

06:10 * Cepheid is abusing the Ant Queen on B12F.

06:10 * ConfusionRift|16b sighs heavily, as he thought he could go through the level, but he couldn't.

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06:12 <Knight_Dash> No one, then?

06:12 <ConfusionRift|16b> I do, but it's a dead account. So basically no.

06:13 * Muffin_Spectacles is not interested in being a cypher.

06:13 <Knight_Dash> What does cypher mean?

06:13 <ConfusionRift|16b> Screw it. Savestate abuse, hoooo!

06:14 <Knight_Dash> It's quite a neutral thing, mind you, simply saying that Episode X says Y. Nothing subjective or opinionated.

06:14 <Muffin_Spectacles> Cypher - a person or thing of no importance, especially a person who does the bidding of others and seems to have no will of their own.

06:14 <Muffin_Spectacles> ...so if one thinks of it, Cypher's name in The Matrix, had a meaning to it.

06:14 <Knight_Dash> Hmm.

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06:15 <Cepheid> In this case, I see it acting as more of a Mouth for someone else.

06:16 * Muffin_Spectacles is thinking of maybe supporting Dr Wolf's patreon...if mainly so I can chat with him about my Sunset Shimmer theories, since noone else ever discusses em.

06:18 * Muffin_Spectacles is also watching Nightmare Night 2014...why is SilverQuill just making me laugh so much?

06:18 <Knight_Dash> If you take such a negative view on it, I guess I could make an account myself. But all it is is reminding someone that in Over a Barrel Pinkie's song says that ponies' diets are completely vegetarian (as this person seemingly suggesting that real life horses' herbivorous nature may not apply to MLP ponies)

06:19 <ConfusionRift|16b> Uuuurgh, that. Yeah, account is dead, so can't. I was gonna suggest making one, since it's free. Also, if you have more comments in mind, you can use that.

06:19 <init3> Cypher to me always meant encryption key or salt.

06:20 <Knight_Dash> Yeah, I'm on the account signup page right now.

06:21 <ConfusionRift|16b> This stage...

06:22 <Twilight_Shimmer> anybody besides me and CocoPommel get a warning message from twitch?

06:22 <ConfusionRift|16b> What sort of message?

06:23 <Twilight_Shimmer> apparently there site/server/data has been slightly comprimsied

06:23 <Cepheid> Yeah, I got it.

06:23 <Cepheid> It's on their blog too.

06:23 <Cepheid> Go and change your password.

06:23 <CocoPommel> Ah

06:24 <init3> Wait. What does "slightly compromised" mean?

06:24 * Muffin_Spectacles is still ticked at his credit card being compromised a day ago.

06:24 <Knight_Dash> Account made and posted.

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06:25 <Twilight_Shimmer> We are writing to let you know that there may have been unauthorized access to some of your Twitch user account information, including possibly your Twitch username and associated email address, your password (which was cryptographically protected), the last IP address you logged in from, and any of the following if you provided it to us: first and last name, phone number, address, and date of birth

06:25 <ConfusionRift|16b> There's no slightly compromised. It's more of "whoops, we are screwed" or "never mind, all is well" situation.

06:25 <Twilight_Shimmer> actual email from them

06:25 <init3> That just reeks to me. I've used those same sort of minimization tactics so I kinda know.  

06:25 <init3> Right, either they got in or they didn't

06:25 <Cepheid> Basically it looks like the database was comprimised.

06:26 <init3> I worked for a company that got hacked into... like one of the worst I've ever seen.

06:26 <ConfusionRift|16b> This sucks, because I don't remember the account name and password.

06:26 <init3> Guess how they got in.

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06:26 <init3> They put a trojan on the HEAD OF INFOSEC's Windows install.

06:26 <Cepheid> Anyways, it wasn't their wording of "slightly comprimised."

06:27 <init3> I got ya.

06:27 <Cepheid> It was just Twilight_Shimmer's wording.

06:27 <ConfusionRift|16b> Yep, I thought so. :P

06:27 <init3> I still can't believe that happened. Apparently they caught it right as out billing database was being dumped to a file.

06:27 <init3> *our

06:28 <init3> So like... you didn't hear it from me.

06:28 <init3> And I don't suspect any of you would want to do buisness with them anyhow.

06:29 <ConfusionRift|16b> Okay, I got the email too.

06:29 <init3> Don't ever get a site through Hostgator. That was not only the worst job I've had but they didn't care about their customers in the least.

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06:30 <init3> While I am pretty sure NDAs expire after a time, pretty sure I was told the details in confidence. They never let their customers know about it.

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06:31 <init3> To be fair, it is probable no data was leaked, but cc information was a part of that database.

06:31 <Evil_Spike> And it turns out that Netflix is good.

06:31 <init3> I think they caught the guy who did it too. Former employee.

06:31 <Evil_Spike> It actually streams a little better than Youtube.

06:32 <Muffin_Spectacles> So, after that whole 'Interview being infiltrated by North Korean operatives,' did they ever just say that was all by a bunch of people inside Sony?'

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06:33 <Forenzik> Hey

06:33 <Muffin_Spectacles> By the sounds of the news, the media just went, 'Oh, it wasn't North Korea declaring cyberwar on us...but that doesn't make for good news.'

06:34 <Forenzik> What

06:35 <Muffin_Spectacles> Forenzik: I was questioning exactly how that whole 'SonyHack/Interview/NKorea-declaring cyberwar on the US' actually ended. I was thinking today, I couldnt recall tha the media ever capped off just what happened there...they just went onto that stupid dress!

06:35 <Cepheid> Well dang.  Turns out Golem's rare drop condition changed.

06:35 <Forenzik> Ah ok I see

06:36 <Forenzik> wait

06:36 <Forenzik> Its 11 days until season 5?

06:36 <init3> !s5

06:36 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 11d:09h:24m:23s

06:36 <init3> Suppose so.

06:37 <Muffin_Spectacles> ...I just had to go for the video with the wide grin, and small white eyes in sunken, dark holes...

06:37 <init3> I kind of keep forgetting. Almost seems like it isn't true.

06:37 <Forenzik> That is very good

06:37 <init3> Like on the 1st they'll say "lolno"

06:37 <Forenzik> We'll see haha

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06:39 <Evil_Spike> Um, quick question to those of you who use Netflix. How quickly does new episodes of things go up?

06:40 <init3> Not quickly at all iirc.

06:40 <ConfusionRift|16b> Last I checked, they take a while. Then again, there are times when they are instant or early.

06:40 <init3> I think it is generally the whole season at a time.

06:40 <Evil_Spike> Ok, thanks

06:41 <ConfusionRift|16b> I remember S3 was in parts. S4 did take a while.

06:41 <init3> Hulu is better for more recent stuff, but lacks older episodes.

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06:41 <init3> Which is so stupid if you ask me. Even if you get hulu plus

06:41 * ConfusionRift|16b still remembers the iTunes bypass crud.

06:41 <Evil_Spike> I guess so.

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06:43 <Muffin_Spectacles> It will most likely take a few months after the end of S5 before we'd see it on Netflix. So, we'll need to make due with youtube postings until then.

06:43 <Evil_Spike> So my usual methods

06:46 <init3> I vote pirating is still the most convenient way to get content. Can't figure out why that is. I'd gladly pay as much as I would for a cable subscription if I could get any show or movie old or new and very soon after they come out.

06:47 <init3> THere is also a program... having trouble remembering its name that lets you stream via bittorrent. And if you want, you'll have the whole show or movie downloaded once you're done.

06:47 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: That' one reason why I don't have cable- If they could let me pick and choose what I wanted, I'd get it. But they pull that stupid BS of, 'If you want A, you need B,c,d,e, and G!'

06:47 <ConfusionRift|16b> I think our cable subscription does include the channel, but I don't have the box. So I can't watch that channel.

06:47 <init3> Right. Zona and popcorn time

06:47 <init3> Trouble with zona is it is kinda half in russian still.

06:48 <ConfusionRift|16b> Also, yes! Game done! (tosses controller)

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06:48 * Muffin_Spectacles is working on his next toy review...and with any luck, maybe I'll find Cadance and Shiny in Indiana this weekend.

06:48 <init3> and I think it is only for Winderps and Android (completely russian)

06:48 <Evil_Spike> Random question, how much does cable cost in the US?

06:49 <Muffin_Spectacles> Personally, I know people find Cadance annoying, but I can't help but when seeing her as a caring person, be reminded of my cousin.

06:49 <init3> Like $50. It's real expensive.

06:49 <ConfusionRift|16b> ...hold on.

06:49 <Evil_Spike> Just the basic plan or everything?

06:49 <init3> Like erm... medium.

06:49 <ProjectCarthage> Cadance is my 2nd favorite Princess, I don't see how people could really hate her

06:50 <Evil_Spike> And if you wanted everything?

06:50 <Muffin_Spectacles> ProjectCarthage: Because she isn't a troll like Celestia, or has a tragic, dark, mind-altering backstory like Luna I gues.

06:50 <init3> ALL the channels is like $60 or 70, but if you want like premium channels like showtime and ESPECIALLY if you want the sportsball channels it'd probably cost you over $200.

06:51 <Evil_Spike> Ah, so Australia is slightly cheaper in terms of cable TV.

06:51 <init3> Like an NFL whatever subscription is like $20/month I think.

06:51 <ConfusionRift|16b> Found a few for just basic TV to be around $15-$20 a month.

06:51 <ConfusionRift|16b> The more expensive ones, yes. $200+.

06:52 <init3> But of course companies here have monopolies here so they can sort of charge what they want.

06:52 <Evil_Spike> But then again, we have the choice of about 100 subscription channels.

06:52 <Evil_Spike> And the plan for that is about $135.

06:52 <Knight_Dash> But Trollestia is just fanon.

06:52 <Muffin_Spectacles> Knight_Dash: Yeah, but to many, fanon...IS...canon.

06:53 <Knight_Dash> Hmm.

06:53 <Muffin_Spectacles> Knight_Dash: After all, in fanon, Luna is the most amazingly tragic character that the writers just can never fathom on the show. :P

06:53 <init3> Celestia is a little bit of a troll canon wise.

06:53 <init3> imo

06:53 <ProjectCarthage> Err, think back to The Ticket Master and A Bird in the Hoof?

06:53 <init3> The first episode

06:53 <Knight_Dash> I didn't interpret those episodes as Celestia trolling, ProjectCarthage.

06:54 <init3> Depends on your definition.

06:54 <ProjectCarthage> She should have known that Twi had 6 friends apart from herself, and yet, she only sends 2 tickets?

06:54 <ConfusionRift|16b> ...they just met!

06:54 <ProjectCarthage> And then that freaking Pheonix trolling Flutters throughout the entire episode

06:54 <init3> To me she was the worst in Return of Harmony

06:55 <init3> But she met all 5 of her new friends

06:55 <ConfusionRift|16b> I just thought of this. It makes perfect sense.

06:55 <ConfusionRift|16b> So you're saying that a person you just met in a day or two is a friend?

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06:55 <init3> Also, how about the Crystal Empire one? "you gotta do this on your own, even though the fate of hundreds of ponies and an entire kingdom are at stake"

06:56 <ConfusionRift|16b> I dunno. I feel that it needs a bit more time.

06:56 <Muffin_Spectacles> ConfusionRift|16b: ...you're questioning the work of Lauren Faust? Isn't that a sin punishable by moon banishment?

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06:56 <Cepheid> Oh sweet heavens that's a powerful piece of armour.

06:56 <init3> Eh, she did say "make some friends" and knew they were frends at that point.

06:56 <Muffin_Spectacles> Though I do like how each of the characters does have traits that don't gel with others. Look before you Sleep is a fave given the Applejack/Rarity banter.

06:57 <Cepheid> Sketchy, you just landed quite possibly the most powerful physical hit I've ever seen.  1,400 damage.

06:57 <init3> But I guess she couldn't have known all of them would want to go.

06:57 <init3> Actually, in a way I think Twi should have known she was close enough to Sunbutt to request more.

06:57 <ConfusionRift|16b> Again, I don't know about that. She did say "make some friends", but I don't think she thought she would make friends overtime.

06:58 <ConfusionRift|16b> Like, almost instant.

06:58 <init3> I suppose.

06:58 <Knight_Dash> I like how the early episodes can be interpreted that they're still all learning to get along. See Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie at the beginning of Griffon the Brush Off.

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06:58 <Knight_Dash> And Applejack and Rarity in Look Before you Sleep.

06:58 <init3> Do you think the elements of harmony played a part in their quick connection?

06:58 <Knight_Dash> ...Actually, are there any other early episodes that can be interpreted that way?

06:58 <Cepheid> Guh, something's not right.

06:59 <ConfusionRift|16b> Then again, she could had just sent tickets to all of them anyways, not just Twilight. I mean, directly sent them to each.

06:59 <ProjectCarthage> Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, they all beat Nightmare and saved Luna, Tia shoulda known

06:59 <ProjectCarthage> Troll

06:59 <init3> True. They did kind of save her sister. And her.

07:00 <ConfusionRift|16b> Now, I do admit, A Bird In A Hoof was trollish for sure. :P

07:00 <init3> Right?

07:00 <ProjectCarthage> People just love to use the Fanon to Uptroll Celestia, make her even more trollish than the show will allow

07:00 <init3> She could have taken 30 seconds to explain.

07:01 <init3> Right.

07:01 <ConfusionRift|16b> The tea scene, and when the phoenix went poof.

07:01 <init3> I do love super trollestia but I think she has some canon trolling fo sho.

07:01 <Knight_Dash> I didn't see Princess Celestia as having deliberately withheld the explanation for the purposes of trolling Fluttershy.

07:01 <ConfusionRift|16b> I just see Celestia as a ruler, with a sense of humor.

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07:02 <init3> You don't think she would have known someone might be concerned about it? Maybe not specifically Flutters but idk.

07:02 <ConfusionRift|16b> Knight_Dash: Still, she could had just said something, instead of just being sad, and then turn 180.

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07:03 <ProjectCarthage> So, random question, does anyone else find Season 1 hard to come back to when Season 4 was so freaking awesome?

07:03 <init3> Oh, going back to your earlier queestion Knight_Dash, Fall Weather Friends too.

07:03 <init3> I personally still like S1

07:03 <ConfusionRift|16b> Eeerm, not sure about that episode.

07:03 <init3> It is questionable I suppose

07:03 <Knight_Dash> I was talking about near the start, when Fluttershy first saw Philomena - but speaking of that part, ConfusionRift... Did anyone here think they'd actually killed the bird off when you saw that part?

07:04 <Knight_Dash> And yeah, init, I'm not sure about it either. Applebuck Season, for example, seems to show the two of them to already be on amiable terms.

07:04 <ConfusionRift|16b> Nope. Was familiar with the phoenix, so it seemed kinda funny. Kinda.

07:04 <init3> I doubted it, but I guess that was the original intent in Lauren's mind.

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07:05 <Evil_Spike> I'm starting to realise something I don't like about the Netflix layout.

07:05 <init3> Which kind of surprises me tbh.

07:05 <init3> She might have made MLP a lot deeper if that was on her list.

07:05 <Muffin_Spectacles> ProjectCarthage: Funny you say that about S1. I've been thinking of doing a blog post on that, because given how far the series has come, S1 does seem odd...but then again, every other S1 for any series never seems fully-realized.

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07:05 <Evil_Spike> Why can't I be given a list of episodes to watch rather than being forced to go straight to the first episode?

07:05 <Knight_Dash> I don't think it fooled me either. Come to think of it, it might've been fairly predictable - I mean, I suspected..

07:05 <Knight_Dash> So yeah, silly question.

07:06 <Knight_Dash> *Better* question, though - Did it remind you of that part in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets?

07:06 <ProjectCarthage> Apart from, like, the last 2 episodes, S1 is just really weird for me

07:06 <ConfusionRift|16b> Everything is Harry Potter.

07:06 <init3> The only problem I have with S1 is I've seen every episode like 10 times.

07:06 <Knight_Dash> Where Harry is sent to Dumbledore's office, and while he's waiting for Dumbledore he sees this really sick bird in a cage and is worried about what might happen if Dumbledore's bird died while he was alone with it

07:07 <Muffin_Spectacles> ProjectCarthage: It's a little more episodic, with the thought that teh Gala is all in the background.

07:07 <Knight_Dash> and then suddenly the bird bursts into flame! And Harry yells in shock and looks around for water, and there isn't any, and the bird burns to ashes... Then Dumbledore shows up.

07:07 <ConfusionRift|16b> That was the idea. And then there's the Cerberus, the owl, the griffin, the... you get the idea.

07:08 * init3 has planned to read Harry Potter for years and refuses to see a movie before reading the book if I have plans to.

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07:08 <Knight_Dash> I don't think Cerberus and the griffons are necessarily derived from Harry Potter, though, considering how MLP does feature mythology.

07:08 <Knight_Dash> And good idea, init.

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07:09 <ProjectCarthage> Muffin_Spectacles:  But yeah, I think I've been spoiled by Season 4, S1 just doesn't do much for me anymore

07:09 <Cepheid> Well, if I ever needed a way to confirm my blood sugar was somehow related to my sinuses..

07:09 <Cepheid> That'd be one way to confirm it, I guess..

07:10 <ConfusionRift|16b> Eeerm, the Cerberus was kinda portrayed as playful and friendly to Hagrid, which does happen on the show. The griffin... okay, you got me there.

07:10 <init3> In S1 though the it is noticeable how there is not shading an the animation quality isn't quite as good as S3 and S4 but I can't fault that since all assets had to be main fron scratch.

07:10 <Knight_Dash> Playful and friendly to Hagrid... It was?

07:10 <Muffin_Spectacles> ProjectCarthage: i do somewhat like the simple episodes in the first season, but I will admit that even the CMC didn't start getting good until S2.

07:10 <init3> Could you imagine how much work that must have been?

07:10 <Knight_Dash> I don't think they ever actually depicted Hagrid and the three-headed dog interacting (though we know Hagrid's the one who supplied it).

07:11 <Evil_Spike> AFAIK they didn't.

07:11 <Knight_Dash> Also, did the CMC seem more like little kids in their early appearances?

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07:11 <ConfusionRift|16b> Knight_Dash: Then why would he name the Cerberus Fluffy? Also, he was very upset they took the Cerberus out of commission (moved or given away).

07:12 <Knight_Dash> He named the baby dragon Norbert but it still bit him, I think.

07:12 <Knight_Dash> Hagrid just loves dangerous animals.

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07:12 <init3> I did kind of find the CMC annoying at first.

07:12 <ProjectCarthage> Knight_Dash:  That's probably the point, the characters have matured over the course of the show

07:12 <ConfusionRift|16b> Exactly. He does have a bit of a knack for them.

07:12 <Knight_Dash> I didn't find them annoying personally, init.

07:12 <ProjectCarthage> Compare the first true CMC episode (After Call of the Cutie), to Flight to the Finish)

07:12 <init3> Well I don't like children.

07:12 <Knight_Dash> Nah, timespan's way too short for that, ProjectCarthage.

07:13 <init3> In general.

07:13 <Knight_Dash> Oh, I see, init.

07:13 <init3> I feel bad that I don't too.

07:13 <ConfusionRift|16b> Didn't have a problem with them. I find RD more annoying than them, by a large margin.

07:14 <ProjectCarthage> I mean, it seems they move the CMC's personality a bit more as the Voice Actor gets older, in Flight to the Finish the CMC sound much more mature than they did back in S1

07:14 <init3> I just get kind of... nervous around them and generally annoyed. I guess I never know how to interact with kids.

07:14 <Knight_Dash> Oh, in all the talk, I only just noticed your lines, Cepheid. What way is that?

07:14 <Knight_Dash> I've only watched the S4 episodes once so far, ProjectCarthage. Intending to rewatch them within the next few months.

07:14 <init3> I would hate to be overly condescending because nothing annoyed me more as a kid.

07:15 <Muffin_Spectacles> ProjectCarthage: I feel in S2, when we got to know them a little more outside of just a collective, it worked. I didn't really like Sweetie Belle until Sisterhooves Social, and Applebloom's cutie pox ep just fell into my favorite troupe of 'Be careful what you wish for.'

07:15 <Cepheid> Earlier, I had one of my episodes from not eating any food.  Nausea, weakness, etc.

07:15 <Muffin_Spectacles> I will admit, 'Twilight Time' was an ep that made me cringe, because one could see it was not going to end well.

07:15 <Cepheid> Checked my blood sugar, it was low, as expected.

07:15 <BatFruitPony> Every one has a favourite and least favourite pony character, there's no point arguing over that

07:15 <Knight_Dash> Oh.

07:15 <init3> But I kind of hate the idea of treating them as too grown up. Kind of feel it's a responsibility as an adult to not do that. So I feel just weird.

07:15 <Cepheid> But on top of that, my sinuses and nose felt like they were about to jump off of my face.

07:16 <Knight_Dash> So so far, we have: 1) It may be related to pollution. 2) It may be related to blood sugar.

07:16 <Muffin_Spectacles> BatFruitPony: ...there isn't?...then what is the purpose of the internet?

07:16 <init3> Haha

07:16 <Knight_Dash> Are you diabetic, then, by the way? If you don't mind my asking.

07:16 <init3> The internet pretty much is the greatest development in arguing ever.

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07:17 <Knight_Dash> My dad was. Pretty prevalent in his family, actually. So I'm in a dangerous position.

07:17 <Cepheid> No, but my parents are.

07:17 <Knight_Dash> Ah.

07:17 <Muffin_Spectacles> init3: You know, if the internet had been around back in 1983, Return of the Jedi would have been savaged for being soooo lame.

07:17 * ConfusionRift|16b shrugs, and goes back to playing.

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07:18 <BatFruitPony> Arguing over opinions is just pointless

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07:18 <ConfusionRift|16b> Muffin_Spectacles: You do know that the Internet was around that time, right? Was just not so public.

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07:19 <Knight_Dash> And init, I like the way you think. I don't put as much thought into it myself, but I'm slightly the type to think about children (how to be a good influence, etc)

07:19 <init3> See, I really am NOT a good role model. God forbid any kid acted like me?

07:20 <init3> Err, not sure why I put a question mark there.

07:20 <Knight_Dash> Hmm, actually. Cepheid, you've said it hasn't happened when you've been out of town, right? Were you eating plenty while out of town?

07:20 <Endien> init3: The key is not to think of children as adults, but not as children either. They are persons, ones who have impairments for understanding and dealing with the world, but persons still.

07:20 <Cepheid> Yep.

07:20 <Knight_Dash> So we may be able to throw out my pollution theory.

07:20 <init3> I dunno. I still feel like I 'Just don't get them'/

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07:21 <Endien> init3: Sure! That probably won't pass. I mean, I get that with a huge amount of adults too. :)

07:21 <Cepheid> Wasn't just your theory either, I thought it might be pollution as well.  May still be it.

07:21 <Muffin_Spectacles> ConfusionRift|16b: But it wasn't as prolific enough to make people hate something with a vengeance. Seriously, I believe that alot of the hatred towards Episode I was because the internet was just taking off and there was so much room for people to just vent. Doesn't help that it's 15 years later, and people still just can't let that film go.

07:22 * ConfusionRift|16b shrugs.

07:22 <Knight_Dash> Hmm. Do you have a doctor you can bring the theory (or theories, if you still think it might be pollution) up with?

07:22 <Endien> init3: Yet, I can still interact with them. It's uncofortable at times, but I kind of think of them as persons who have a bit of a simplistic view of the world, and I can nudge them to the right direction or not, but at least I can interact with them. And I'm talking about the adults here... ;)

07:22 <ConfusionRift|16b> Social media, that's all I gotta say.

07:23 <init3> hah

07:23 <Endien> People tell me I'm very good with children. I don't know. It's quite uncomfortable for me.

07:24 <Endien> But if they're specific children I've grown to know, that uncomfort passes away. For example, I'm quite comfortable with (some) children of my friends. (And my own kid of course.)

07:24 <Muffin_Spectacles> Endien: I try to be tolerant, but I will admit: I won't discipline a kid that's not my own.

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07:25 <Muffin_Spectacles> Endien: As well, I just feel since I'm a single guy without kids of his own, I can give some minor thoughts and opinions, but I'm not going to start making life-decisions on someone else's kid.

07:26 <Endien> Muffin_Spectacles: Yeah, people tell me that diciplining others' kids is a social failure, so I tend not to. And I can see why. But I won't take a hands-off approach either, if there's something that needs attention. I always make a point to concentrate the diciplining on _me_ specifically.

07:27 <Muffin_Spectacles> Though I have told my friend that I am all for visiting without gifts. My friend's parents always bring presents, and I want to help them raise a child that won't expect to get something everytime someone comes through the door.

07:27 <Endien> Muffin_Spectacles: Like, "Ok, ok, you two need to stop that, I don't want you swearing around me."

07:28 <Endien> Or "As long as I'm here, there's no hitting of anyone, because it's not something I will tolerate watching."

07:29 <Endien> It teaches them of the social unacceptance of what they are doing, but also makes a point that I'm actually not anyone to tell them what to do in general.

07:29 <Endien> And yes, the same approach works with adults. :P

07:31 <KilgoreTrout> yo

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07:32 <KilgoreTrout> I'm super awkward with kids.

07:32 <KilgoreTrout> Except my own.

07:32 <Endien> KilgoreTrout: What about other kids you know?

07:32 <Endien> Like, friends' kids?

07:33 <KilgoreTrout> Yeah. Or wife's friends' kids.

07:33 <KilgoreTrout> I'm constantly afraid of referring myself in third person as 'dad'.

07:34 <KilgoreTrout> Because I nearly did that once and it felt awkward.

07:34 <Endien> :D

07:34 <KilgoreTrout> I'm ok with teens, though.

07:34 <Endien> That would be awkward indeed. :D

07:34 <Endien> probably not to the kids, though. :)

07:36 <Muffin_Spectacles> My friend's kid often calls his parents by their first name.

07:36 <Endien> With teens, I'm constantly afraid of being boring or uninteresting, and them just not telling me about it in any way because of social expectations. :)

07:36 <Muffin_Spectacles> Though I will admit, they are raising a pretty smart kid. Kid was naming stuff from Greek Mythology, the likes of which I couldn't have recited when I was 3 1/4 years old.

07:36 * Evil_Spike has to go into a primary school classroom next week.

07:37 <Evil_Spike> Now that's going to be scary.

07:37 <Knight_Dash> Public library. I used to read mythology books from the children's section at the library when I was a kid. Though not sure if I was *that* young.

07:37 <init3> I can handle teens.

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07:37 <Cepheid> That was... mildly weird.

07:37 <init3> I worked at a school district for a few years.

07:37 <Cepheid> I just brushed Spitfire's teeth.

07:37 <BatFruitPony> I used to play CS in "game club" after school

07:38 <CocoBed> !s5

07:38 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 11d:08h:22m:45s

07:38 <Evil_Spike> I remember going to LAN parties at high school.

07:38 <Knight_Dash> I've never brushed my cat's teeth. I just give her exclusively dry food (instead of canned) and trust that'll be enough to keep her teeth in okay shape.

07:38 <KilgoreTrout> I'm a huge music nerd so I kind of have an idea what music they might listen to.

07:38 <init3> And I used to delete copies of CS off the school's file servers.

07:38 <Cepheid> Heh.

07:38 <Endien> Muffin_Spectacles: My kid calls me usually "dad", but her mother with her first name. It's hilarious. :)

07:38 <Evil_Spike> We would usually play UT, CS or WC3.

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07:38 <Cepheid> Unfortunately my cat's teeth are apparently known to collect plaque quite easily.

07:38 <Knight_Dash> Hmm, I see.

07:38 <Cepheid> It's a known problem among his breed.

07:38 <Cepheid> So I have to brush his teeth.  I just did it for the first time.

07:39 <Knight_Dash> What breed is he?

07:39 <Muffin_Spectacles> Endien: I remember for a day or so, I called My Mom and Dad, Mother and Father instead. Decided it was too much.

07:39 <init3> But to be honest, can you blame me? Our fileserver was almost out of space.

07:39 <Cepheid> Just take a toothbrush and rub it against his teeth lightly.

07:39 <Cepheid> Mix between typical American Shorthair and Bombay.

07:39 <init3> And where I worked was super-uptight.

07:40 <init3> If I could have I would have done a computer/gaming club with the kids.

07:40 <Endien> Muffin_Spectacles: I called my parents by their first names too, but then again they're both female so it was probably just easier that way.

07:40 <init3> The IT guy at my school did.

07:40 <Knight_Dash> So is the plaque a Bombay thing?

07:40 <KilgoreTrout> I hate uptight places.

07:40 <init3> And It's what really got me into IT.

07:40 <KilgoreTrout> I would probably even wear pony in a place like that.

07:41 <BatFruitPony> We played Quake through LAN at our comupter class

07:41 <init3> Heh, I had to wear button-up shirts and black slacks.

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07:41 <Cepheid> Yeah, it's part of the Bombay.

07:41 <init3> Was bleh.

07:41 <Cepheid> ..

07:41 <BatFruitPony> Our informatics and history teachers played with us

07:41 <Cepheid> Oh gods, he's playing with the Toothbrush under my bed.

07:41 <init3> I would have done it too.

07:42 <init3> Also there was the fact that most of the teachers were all about getting me fired.

07:42 <init3> Because I was a contractor and replaced a union member.

07:42 <init3> Even though I think I kind of saved the union's ass.

07:43 <init3> Because they were stupid enough to have a union email account on the school's servers.

07:43 <init3> So when contract negotiations got contentious, he asked for access to the email account.

07:43 <init3> You had to agree to email being monitored to even use the computers so...

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07:44 <init3> But I kind of told the union leader maybe she should look over the AUP. Specifically regarding EMAIL MONITORING.

07:44 <init3> I don't even know that she got my hint.

07:44 <KilgoreTrout> That sounds like a horrible place

07:45 <init3> It was morally questionable to do it imo, but also morally questionable to tell her.

07:45 <init3> Was kind of stuck so I just tried to strongly hint.

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07:46 <init3> Certainly wasn't appreciated for that. Also the fact that all the principals told me how much better everything got since I took over.

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07:46 <init3> ffs there were switches where the internal fans had died.

07:46 <init3> so the dude just took off the cover

07:47 <init3> and literally tied an oscillating  fan to it with twine.

07:47 <KilgoreTrout> :D

07:47 <init3> Well, there were three switches like that.

07:47 <init3> I couldn't believe my eyes

07:48 <init3> oh that and all students had read and write access to all other student folders.

07:48 <CocoBed> !muffinkiss

07:48 * DerpyBot regurgitates a whole, fresh looking muffin and approaches CocoBed, showing her most adorable kissing face

07:48 * CocoBed eats muffin

07:49 <init3> They just had to know the other student's username. Not hard considering it was first inital, last name.

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07:49 <init3> Type it in the address bar, steal homework or delete all their files.

07:49 <init3> And you know hoe horrible kids can be.

07:49 <init3> oh, and there was NO LOGGING.

07:49 <Cepheid> Almost as bad as the security risk my college had.

07:49 <Cepheid> Passwords were in plaintext.

07:49 <init3> So I couldn't even tell who did it.

07:50 <init3> ugh

07:50 <Cepheid> For the teacher's account system.

07:50 <Cepheid> So you could log into teacher's accounts, etc.

07:50 <init3> How did you access the PW DB?

07:50 <BatFruitPony> No logging allowed in the park near me too

07:50 <Cepheid> No idea.  I never looked into the system itself.

07:50 <init3> Or maybe not /you/ but you know what i mean.

07:51 <init3> Haha BatFruitPony.

07:51 <Cepheid> I just know that a simple packet sniffer was sufficient to gain access to various systems throughout the network.

07:51 <init3> Oh

07:51 <KilgoreTrout> SELECT * FROM USERS, maybe?

07:51 <init3> Well you shouldn't be able to directly access the DB

07:51 <KilgoreTrout> No, that was a joke :D

07:51 <init3> I get what he is saying

07:52 <init3> The network layer was unencrypted.

07:52 <Cepheid> I'll be honest.

07:52 <Cepheid> You would think you shouldn't be able to access the database.

07:52 <init3> So all you had to do is sniff the packets and you'll see it right in there.

07:52 <Cepheid> But knowing the IT department there..

07:52 <init3> Hah

07:52 <Cepheid> I mean for heaven's sake, we asked them to give us teacher's accounts just to explore the system ourselves, and they did.

07:52 <init3> It reminds me of this one XKCD

07:53 <init3> https://xkcd.com/327/

07:53 <init3> (Some SQL knowledge required)

07:53 <Endien> At high school, we werern't supposed to have access to which students were partaking which courses. However, as the teachers assigned them I discovered they were written to by some custom software to a shared folder (so the students could check their own courses with the software). I copied the entire file and after analyzing it a bit, wrote my own program to interpret it. :)

07:54 <Cepheid> Fortunately I know SQL.

07:54 <Cepheid> Not my area of expertise, but I know it.

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07:54 <init3> Yeah. Even HS students were pretty clever at getting around security policies.

07:54 <Endien> As the file was updated *during* the course selection and assignment period, this had the nice side effect of me being able to select the right courses based on which students would be partaking them...

07:55 <ConfusionRift|16b> Yay, databaseeeeesssssss. :P

07:56 <Endien> So I naturally wrote a friends/enemies list to my interpreter, and made it highlight which courses I should avoid, and which to try and assign for myself. It was nice.

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07:56 <DROP_TABLE_PONIES> Hue

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07:56 <ConfusionRift|16b> That's a rather long name.

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07:57 <KilgoreTrout> Made me laugh out quite loudly.

07:57 <ConfusionRift|16b> Thank you. :P

07:57 <Cepheid> No longer than yours currently Rifty

07:57 <init3> :)

07:57 <Endien> init3: They indeed are! I'm not going to go into how me and friends got around some other security policies there, because it goes a lot deeper. We never did anything unethical. (Only unethicalish, which I do regret later.)

07:57 <ConfusionRift|16b> It did trigger some truncating. Sooowwyyyyy.

07:58 <init3> Any of you have computers what have deep freeze?

07:58 <init3> *that

07:58 <init3> It basically saves the state of the computer and restores it every reboot.

07:58 <ConfusionRift|16b> Deep fry? Yes. Deep freeze, not sure.

07:58 <init3> Password protected and all.

07:59 <Endien> Ah, yes.

08:00 <init3> Well, instead of having a class one hour I basically had a job as a "technical assistant" to a lady that really didn't know computers like at all.

08:00 <init3> The annoying part was since I was a student they didn't give me the Deep Freeze password.

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08:00 <init3> I'd have to call her over EVERY TIME I need to fix my computer.

08:00 <init3> *a computer

08:01 <init3> Basically, I couldn't do my job.

08:01 <init3> So I kinda took care of that with a keylogger.

08:01 <init3> lol

08:01 <init3> This was long before AVs picked up keyloggers.

08:02 <init3> Then I almost got expelled my senior year because I told a kid how to do SAM file cracking

08:02 <init3> And his dumb ass cracked the school's password.

08:03 <init3> I don't get how it was my fault, because we were in an IT class.

08:03 <init3> So I kind of assumed he wanted it for a computer at home or just to play.

08:03 <ConfusionRift|16b> Target by association.

08:03 <init3> Yep.

08:04 <init3> They even had a cop sit in while the principal and IT manager grilled me.

08:04 <init3> I didn't realize that was illegal at the time.

08:04 <ConfusionRift|16b> Also, IT classes tend to be the ones targeted for any network jailbreaks.

08:04 <init3> My parents were PISSED when they founf that out.

08:04 <init3> Only reason I didn't get expelled really. They were going to sue otherwise.

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08:05 <init3> Since I was a minor and the cop was there they were required to let me have a lawyer or my parents.

08:06 <init3> Oh, that and that kid had told just about everyone the password.

08:06 <init3> So at some point they came in and claimed to know everything.

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08:06 <init3> So in a "I am Sparticus" sort of way 75% of the class admitted to logging in as admin on the computers.

08:07 <Endien> init3: Yeah, I hate it when hacker spirit and societal misunderstandingg collide. That stuff is dangerous.

08:07 <Endien> haha!

08:07 <init3> I'll never forget. I was the first one to volunteer to be grilled.

08:07 <init3> The entire class was there

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08:08 <Endien> I'm pretty happy we never got caught on anything at all. It was crazy.

08:08 <init3> So before I walked in the room, I turned and did the Nixon peace sign thing.

08:08 <Cepheid> When it comes to people asking me how to do X when X is questionable..

08:08 <Cepheid> I back away and don't tell them anything.

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08:08 <Cepheid> 9 times out of 10, it's for malicious purposes.

08:08 <init3> and the principal turned to me and said: "The last person to do that got into a lot of trouble"

08:09 <Cepheid> It doesn't matter how good of a person the individual may be in your eyes.

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08:09 <init3> And I literally said to her, because I was in so much trouble already "no ****, that's why I did it".

08:10 <init3> Cepheid: I don't think knowledge is ever something to not pass on.

08:10 <init3> If I know how to do it, I'll tell anyone who asks.

08:10 <Endien> What we all would've needed is someone to sit down with us, go all "wow, that's pretty impressive! especially X and Y. But see, you can't do stuff like that. Yeah, the actual rules they have written are stupid and full of blah. In truth, that stuff is not ok because A and B."

08:10 <Cepheid> That's a dangerous way to think, init3.

08:10 <ConfusionRift|16b> Huh, that reminds me. When I was in California for the vaca, there was this kid who grew very attached to his "girlfriend". So much so that he was asking me for a way to track her phone from his.

08:10 <Cepheid> Knowledge is fine to be passed on.

08:10 <Cepheid> But use judgement on who you pass it onto.

08:11 <Glass> .

08:11 <Cepheid> Not everyone thinks or behaves the same way you do.

08:11 <Cepheid> People are dumb, people are malicious, people are EVIL.

08:11 <init3> Kind of that "hacker spirit" Endien mentioned though.

08:11 <init3> Also, to be able to secure a system, you must know how it's broken.

08:11 <Cepheid> If these people really want to do what they want to do..

08:12 <Cepheid> They'll figure it out on their own.

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08:12 <Cepheid> Especially malicious stuff.

08:12 <Cepheid> Don't guide them.

08:12 <init3> You aren't ever legally responsible for what others do.

08:12 <Cepheid> Yes you are.

08:12 <ConfusionRift|16b> ^

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08:12 <Cepheid> That is an INCREDIBLY stupid way to think.

08:12 <init3> Well knowledge wise.

08:12 <ConfusionRift|16b> You're held accomplice if they find out.

08:12 <KilgoreTrout> I actually only got into trouble in my teens for destroying property

08:12 <KilgoreTrout> or nearly into trouble

08:12 <Endien> Yeah, I'm going to sort of side with init3 on this one. It's really strange to not tell people how stuff is done.

08:12 <init3> It depends.

08:12 <KilgoreTrout> I guess that's why i do front end

08:13 * Cepheid sighs.

08:13 <Cepheid> I'd... best stop discussing this.

08:13 <Cepheid> This is getting me worked up.

08:13 <Knight_Dash> Hey, guys, how do I take over city states made of crystal?

08:13 <ConfusionRift|16b> Yeah, I feel it getting a bit heated.

08:13 <Endien> That said, if some kid comes whining how he wants to haxxxor into and account, of course I won't waste time teaching them anything.

08:13 <init3> I mean, if I tell you how to load and aim a gun, should I be responsible if that person shoots up a school?

08:13 <Cepheid> Because honestly I think you two are missing a very vital and critical point here.

08:13 <Endien> And also, with the knowledge I pass, I usually do include morality on stuff.

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08:13 <Cepheid> Right.

08:13 <Cepheid> Morality.

08:13 <Cepheid> You pass on morality, great.

08:14 <Endien> They may take it or leave it, but coming from someone who teaches them the stuff in the first place, they're more likely to internalize it.

08:14 <Cepheid> Yeah, okay, I nod my head while I listen to your morality.  What do you do if I just nod my head and go "Uh huh, uh huh" and then ignore it all?

08:14 <init3> Indeed. I do too Endien. Still I kind of have a deeply held belief people have a RIGHT to knowledge.

08:14 <Cepheid> And then take your knowledge that you gave me, and use it to do malicious things?  What then?

08:14 <init3> Not my responsibility.

08:14 <Knight_Dash> Well, Endien's example thing above did seem to include interspersing the morality with the knowledge (I think).

08:14 <Cepheid> Do you absolve yourself of all responsibility for my actions?

08:14 <Endien> And of course there are limits. If someone comes armed with a pistol asking how to bypass the door's security, I'm so outta there. :D

08:14 <Cepheid> Good luck trying to convince the police of that.

08:14 <init3> Yes it does Cepheid.

08:14 <Cepheid> No it doesn't.

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08:15 <ConfusionRift|16b> Moving on.

08:15 <Cepheid> Ever hear of something of "Accessory to commit a crime?"

08:15 <init3> Yes, I have.

08:15 <Cepheid> You gave knowledge, that makes you an accessory.

08:15 <Cepheid> You're not absolved of it.

08:15 <init3> No, it dosen't.

08:15 <Cepheid> Yes it does.

08:15 <init3> Unless it is very specific information

08:16 <ConfusionRift|16b> Again, moving on.

08:16 <init3> Like the door unlock code to a building.

08:16 <Cepheid> But your previous example just showed that you GAVE SPECIFIC INFORMATION.

08:16 <Endien> Cepheid: Yeah, the police business is one thing. It's not part of the actual argument. Yes, it might lead to trouble with the law, but that's another problem.

08:16 <Cepheid> You told someone about a process that allowed them to do something illegal.

08:16 <Cepheid> You didn't do it knowingly, sure.

08:17 <Endien> (Which, coincidentally, is why I would probably _not_ do it even if I felt it ethical to do so. Gotta protect myself.)

08:17 <init3> I know someone who got convicted of accessory. She drove the getaway car. Much different thing there.

08:17 <Cepheid> But you are still an accessory, because you still knowingly gave that knowledge out, knowing it could be used for that purpose.

08:17 <init3> The difference is between knowing it could and knowing it would and the specifics of how it would be.

08:17 <Cepheid> Gods, your morality sucks.  What the hell were you doing during your Ethics courses?

08:17 <init3> THat is the legal standard.

08:18 <init3> Hehe, I consider it immoral to not pass information.

08:18 <init3> Unless it is very specific.

08:18 <Cepheid> Yeah, well, unfortunately I think the Internet's in it's current state of disrepair because of people like you.

08:18 <KilgoreTrout> I kind of see boths sides here

08:18 <Endien> Cepheid: Morality is a complex thing. Exactly, denying access to general information can be seen an immoral.

08:18 <init3> Hehe, you do know that my job is keeping the internet running?

08:19 <Cepheid> You're doing a terrible job of it.

08:19 <init3> Not at my NOC I'm not.

08:19 <Cepheid> I disagree.

08:19 <init3> How so?

08:19 <Endien> Cepheid: Try not to be so confrontational.

08:19 <KilgoreTrout> Because angry?

08:19 <Cepheid> Seems like everyone wants to shut down the Internet because almost everyone knows how to be script kiddies, break into servers, or pirate stuff because of knowledge that keeps getting passed around.

08:20 <Endien> Cepheid: ok, please DO NOT include "piracy" in that.

08:20 <Cepheid> I'm sorry, but it's true.

08:20 <Endien> Cepheid: because it messes up things and we get all distracted.

08:20 <KilgoreTrout> It's either passed around or kept with a few.

08:20 <init3> Yes, because you HAVE to know how those attacks work to STOP THEM.

08:20 <Cepheid> You know what?

08:20 <Cepheid> Maybe if you hadn't spread that damned knowledge around in the first place so freely it wouldn't be as much of a problem.

08:21 <Cepheid> Maybe paying attention in your Ethics courses would have helped.

08:21 <Endien> Cepheid: But the issue about script kiddies and breaking servers and stuff IS interesting from a moral standpoint.

08:21 <KilgoreTrout> Historically just a few knowing these things was the classic Mitnick/early cracker era.

08:21 <ConfusionRift|16b> Moving... the hell... on! This is nothing but deadlock.

08:21 <KilgoreTrout> Network security has improved since.

08:21 <Endien> Cepheid: Again, please try not to attack people personally, but disucss the issue.

08:21 <init3> You are really personally blaming me for everyone who misuses knowledge eaisly available on the internet?

08:21 <Cepheid> Not you personally.

08:21 <Cepheid> People like you.

08:22 <init3> I'm sorry, you did make it personal.

08:22 <Cepheid> You have no self control over your knowledge.

08:22 <init3> <Cepheid> You're doing a terrible job of it.

08:22 <Cepheid> You seem to get this idea that knowledge should be free to hand out to just about anyone.

08:22 <Cepheid> "you" can be plural.

08:22 <Endien> init3: it doesn't help pointing other people's failures directly either. :/

08:23 <Cepheid> Try learning English.

08:23 <init3> Exactly. Unless it puts lives at risk or is specific I think it is.

08:23 <ConfusionRift|16b> ...

08:23 <init3> Really?

08:23 <init3> Alright, I'm done.

08:23 <init3> That's just completely unnecessary.

08:23 <Endien> Cepheid: The thing with providing people with the knowledge of how to crack things is that it actually often ends up improving the gerenal security of things.

08:23 <init3> "learn englist...

08:23 <init3> haha the irony

08:24 <init3> of that message

08:24 <KilgoreTrout> Endien: That's the case, yes.

08:24 <Endien> A good example is the Firesheep case.

08:24 <Cepheid> Coming from someone who can't properly capitalize and punctuate their sentences, it seems appropriate.

08:24 <Endien> It's a morally complex issue, though.

08:24 <init3> You've been in here long enough to know I almost always do.

08:24 <KilgoreTrout> Actually the best way a virus or hack is prevented is by passing out the information how to make it.

08:25 <KilgoreTrout> The alternative is to reverse-engineer it

08:25 <Endien> And I'm not brushing it aside. It's not simple. You *are* giving someone means to do things that you don't agree with morally.

08:25 <KilgoreTrout> that's a hassle.

08:25 <init3> Because I didn't a few times because I'm getting angry isn't a reason to claim I don't know how to di it.

08:25 <init3> *do

08:25 <init3> That's just being mean.

08:25 <Cepheid> Look, my problem is I just don't think knowledge should just be freely handed out.  It's dangerous.

08:25 <init3> Some of it can be.

08:25 <init3> A line needs to be drawn.

08:26 <Cepheid> Then why didn't you say that earlier?

08:26 <init3> I just draw my line in a different place.

08:26 <init3> I did, several times.

08:26 <init3> If it is extremely specific or can directly lead to lost LIVES.

08:26 <KilgoreTrout> We live in a time where knowledge like that is easily accessed everywhere.

08:26 <init3> That too.

08:26 <Endien> However, the mindset that knowledge only needs to be passed when absolutely sure of it's moral usage is also dangerous. Even more so.

08:26 <Cepheid> I'm talking dangerous in a different manner.

08:26 <Cepheid> Not just lost lives.

08:27 <Cepheid> I'm talking in so called "freedom" of the information that people want.

08:27 <KilgoreTrout> If it's because of *people like init3*, then I salute those people.

08:27 <Cepheid> The more these exploits are used, the more things get locked down.

08:27 <Cepheid> The more these questionable techniques get used, the more problems that are created.

08:27 <Cepheid> It isn't about simply fighting back.

08:28 <Cepheid> Or protecting lives.

08:28 <Cepheid> Besides.

08:28 <init3> It isn't moral to give someone the password to a server. It isn't moral to give someone the identity of a spy. It is however, moral in my book to tell someone how to do something that *could* be used maliciously because that doesn't necessarily mean it WILL be.

08:28 <Cepheid> Livelihoods are ruined by the information that you can spread anyways.  Your knowledge.

08:29 <Cepheid> You spread a method to break security?  SOmeone can use it to break into a banking databas.

08:29 <Endien> init3: what about the case where you're pretty damn sure the other person will use it immorally?

08:29 <Cepheid> That database gets compromised, a person's financial records could be ruined.

08:29 <Cepheid> Their lives could be ruined.

08:29 <Cepheid> Does that not count as a form of a loss of life?

08:29 <init3> Then I would not tell them Endien.

08:30 <Endien> Cepheid: you're picking up a single example and generalizing from that. You take one bad thing, and word your argument in a way like there would be no other thing to counter that.

08:30 <init3> Indeed. Or, you can tell the server admin how SQL injection works so he can make sure it can't happen.

08:30 <KilgoreTrout> Also: I think that the person could have found out the same method had he used a bit more effort to gain it.

08:30 <KilgoreTrout> himselfg

08:30 <init3> In infosec it is ABSOLUTLEY necessary to know how to hack.

08:30 <init3> If you don't you are not a security admin.

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08:31 <init3> End of story.

08:31 <Endien> KilgoreTrout: then again, you're making it easier for them, which isn't very good thing either, even if they would find it otherwise too.

08:31 <Cepheid> I still think it's dangerous.

08:31 <init3> Right, are you familiar with heartbleed Cepheid?

08:31 * ConfusionRift|16b taps his keyboard. "We are back in circles, huh."

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08:32 <KilgoreTrout> True. You can also tell a large kid who avoids violent confrontation that he should hit back only to make him a bully.

08:32 <Cepheid> That is something that should not have been disclosed until government organizations had been notified and confirmed to have fixed it.

08:32 <Cepheid> By disclosing that damned bug they caused a whole bunch of trouble.

08:32 <Endien> Cepheid: and I think it's dangerous to treat information and knowledge only by its potential harmful uses.

08:32 <init3> That's not how open source works though.

08:32 <KilgoreTrout> Life is dangerous. Human interaction is dangerous. Livelihoods get destroyed by other means than hackers also.

08:32 <Cepheid> Really?

08:32 <init3> But consider this.

08:32 <Cepheid> Because the banks were notified before the bug was disclosed.

08:33 <Cepheid> And had fixes in place before disclosure.

08:33 <init3> Heartbleed was in the wild for years and years.

08:33 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'm aware.

08:33 <init3> So, let's say I found out about it on my own.

08:33 <Endien> Cepheid: what if the organizations that could fix it are notified, and don't respond? in a week? in a month? in ten years?

08:33 <init3> Are you suggesting since that knowledge is "dangerous" I shouldn't tell anyone?

08:33 <Cepheid> I see the problem there, yes.

08:34 <Cepheid> But then the question is, who do you share it with?

08:34 <Endien> Giving it out in public forces them to react.

08:34 <init3> In the case of open source, almost by definition everyone.

08:34 <KilgoreTrout> Simple, everyone.

08:34 <KilgoreTrout> Just as you do with power.

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08:35 <KilgoreTrout> Everything is fine as long as the one wielding power is beneficial.

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08:35 <Cepheid> Would it have not been better to disclose the bug to the developers first to give them a chance to try and fix the bug before disclosing the bug publically

08:35 <KilgoreTrout> But there will come a time when one isn't.

08:35 <init3> I could have taken the vulnerability in the code, fixed it up and then what you do is something called a git commit.

08:35 <init3> With open source EVERYONE is the developer.

08:35 <BatFruitPony> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BWigbk4Y44

08:35 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

08:35 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Daniel Fries - Duerme La Luna Chill Remix

08:35 <Cepheid> THat's true, init3.

08:35 <Cepheid> Let me rephrase.

08:36 <Cepheid> Take it up with the lead developers.  The ones responsible for accepting the pull requests.

08:36 <init3> The source is freely available. The second I make that commit EVERYONE knows.

08:36 <init3> Commits are public.

08:36 <init3> Always.

08:36 <Cepheid> Hah.  Right.

08:36 <KilgoreTrout> Actually if someone hacked the school system because I gave them information, I couldn't care less. It would be funny.

08:36 <Cepheid> You do realize there are ways to make non-public patches, right?

08:36 <KilgoreTrout> I hated authority (and people in general) back then.

08:37 <Endien> KilgoreTrout: But that's because you don't think it's an immoral act.

08:37 <init3> If I found a vulnerability in proprietary software I would let the developers know.  

08:37 <Endien> KilgoreTrout: What if they used it to bully someone?

08:37 <Cepheid> Besides, there's a thing called "Contacting the lead developers by e-mail."

08:37 <Cepheid> Without a patch first.

08:37 <init3> Ok... but it is going to be in the changelog when the new version releases.

08:37 <init3> Or in the source itself.

08:37 <Cepheid> But by then it's less of an issue.

08:37 <Cepheid> The bug is fixed.

08:38 <init3> No, it isn't

08:38 <Cepheid> Can I finish?

08:38 <KilgoreTrout> Depends on who they would bully. If it were someone I hated back then, I couldn't care less. I'm a different person no.w

08:38 <Cepheid> Heartbleed was a unique case.

08:38 <init3> Because the second the bug gets fixed all servers aren't updated.

08:38 <Cepheid> They announced the bug publically, but the patch wasn't ready.

08:38 <init3> How so?

08:38 <init3> Not uncommon at all.

08:38 <Cepheid> In fact, the patch wasn't ready for several days, up to weeks.

08:38 <Endien> It's a tough call, really. I mean, it's also irresponsible NOT to tell the people using the software thay "hey, your software is WIDE OPEN to some hackers". But then again, by the very same act, you're increasing the chance that someone actually uses that crack...

08:38 <init3> Right, but you could fix it by changing one thing in the config.

08:39 <init3> Change HARTBEAT=1 to HEARTBEAT=0

08:39 <Cepheid> Unfortunately many webservers didn't do that.

08:39 <init3> Boom, no longer vulnerable.

08:39 <Cepheid> Yeah.

08:39 <init3> And who's fault is that?

08:39 <Cepheid> But again, the psychology of the netadmins wasn't taken into account.

08:39 <init3> If I didn't do it to my servers, that's on my.

08:39 <Cepheid> And lo and behold, we had problems.

08:39 <init3> *me.

08:40 <Cepheid> It should also be partly on the people who revealed it.

08:40 <BatFruitPony> Fun fact: UZI came standard with bayonet attachment

08:40 <init3> I don't see how.

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08:40 <Cepheid> Risk assessment.

08:41 <Cepheid> You know it's a large problem.

08:41 <Cepheid> Consider the risk of revealing it.

08:41 <init3> But remember this was in the wild for so long. Do you believe that the people who discovered it were the first ones to?

08:41 <init3> Because it is so simple I HIGHLY doubt it.

08:41 <Endien> Well, placing "blame" on someone is pretty meaningless anyway.

08:41 <Cepheid> Will the people listen to you?  Consider the psychology of a human being, even in IT.

08:41 <Cepheid> init3:  That's true.

08:41 <Cepheid> But the thing is, it's been out there for so long.

08:41 <init3> They sure as hell will if you publish it.

08:41 <Cepheid> And no one had been abusing it as far as we could tell.

08:41 <Cepheid> And yet..

08:41 <init3> If they don't they should be fired.

08:41 <Cepheid> Not everyone did.

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08:42 <Cepheid> So your argument fails.

08:42 <init3> I'll bet it was abused.

08:42 <Cepheid> Your risk assessment was invalid.

08:42 <init3> Because we didn't know for sure hackers already had a hold of it?

08:42 <init3> That's moving the goalpost.

08:42 <Cepheid> I still say revealing it was more of a dangerous move than not revealing it until a fix was ready.

08:42 <init3> The fix was ready.

08:42 <Cepheid> Because the psychology of people tells me that they would not take immediate action.

08:43 <init3> It was a two second config change

08:43 <init3> Even EASIER than upgrading OpenSSL.

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08:43 <Cepheid> What does the heartbeat functionality do?

08:44 <init3> Basically, it prevents the SSL handshake from taking place again, therefore saving an incredibly insignificant amount of bandwidth and CPU in today's terms.

08:44 <init3> When it would have timed out.

08:44 <init3> I cannot imagine a single use case where it would be /required/.

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08:45 <Cepheid> Even under high load?

08:45 <init3> And I've been working with web servers for six years now.

08:45 <init3> Yes.

08:45 <Cepheid> Like say, during tax season?

08:45 <init3> Yes.

08:45 <Cepheid> You're certain of this?

08:45 <init3> Yes.

08:45 <Cepheid> Then, how about this.

08:45 <Cepheid> What if the admin deludes themselves into believing they need it?

08:45 <Cepheid> Psychology again.

08:46 <Cepheid> Plus, when was the vulnerability announced?

08:46 <init3> How is that on the people who revealed the bug?

08:46 <init3> I can't remember.

08:46 <KilgoreTrout> What if the admin is a dangerous idiot, lazy or incompetent?

08:46 <init3> If I say "Hey, your back door is open" and you don't close it, is it my fault if you get robbed?

08:46 <Cepheid> init3:  Risk assessment, again.

08:47 <KilgoreTrout> init3: exactly

08:47 <Cepheid> I'm treating the netadmin as a user.

08:47 <init3> but we aren't

08:47 <Cepheid> But you should.

08:47 <KilgoreTrout> About destroying livelihoods.

08:47 <KilgoreTrout> Think digital cameras.

08:47 <init3> If we were we would get fired.

08:47 <Cepheid> You're revealing the vulnerability to people, treat the people as the user.

08:48 <KilgoreTrout> They MIGHT replace film cameras. Why not try to prevent them from being sold with law to protect dark room employees livelihoods?

08:49 <Cepheid> Ah, it was revealed on a Monday.

08:49 <KilgoreTrout> Things get destroyed and toppled during progress.

08:49 <Cepheid> So that rules out the possibility of "No one at work to fix it over the weekend."

08:49 <init3> You can't really expect someone to take into account people being absolutely terrible at their job.

08:50 <init3> If I see a robbery in progress and call the cops. Then said cop doesn't wait for backup and is a terrible shot and gets himself killed?

08:50 <Cepheid> At my college, I was trained to do so.

08:50 <init3> Would that be my fault?

08:50 <Cepheid> "Expect that the user will do the most ridiculous thing possible to break things."

08:51 <init3> If I tell a civilian with a gun to go in there and get em, it kind of is my fault.

08:51 <Cepheid> I was trained to check, and double check every input just to make sure the user doesn't try to do something they're not supposed to, because it's guaranteed that they WILL DO IT even if I never think they will.

08:52 <Cepheid> And the worst part?

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08:52 <Cepheid> In my field?  If they do do it, and it breaks?  It's my fault.

08:52 <Cepheid> This is how it works in my field.

08:52 <Cepheid> This is why I think this way.

08:52 <init3> But you have to expect when you tell someone who's job it is to fix something that they know how and will.

08:52 <init3> You a programmer?

08:52 <Cepheid> Yeah.

08:52 <KilgoreTrout> Me too

08:52 <KilgoreTrout> Front end, though

08:53 <Cepheid> I'm all areas.

08:53 <init3> Well then sure, I can see that.

08:53 <Cepheid> But I've dealt with clients who have blamed me for stuff they did that caused an application to crash.

08:53 <KilgoreTrout> I have semiotics and psychology training also

08:53 <KilgoreTrout> It helps out a lot in UI design

08:53 <init3> I'm not seeing how this is related.

08:53 <Cepheid> This may be why we're at odds about this, init3.

08:53 <Endien> Programmer here too, if it wasn't obvious already. :)

08:54 <Cepheid> Conflicting views about how to handle things.

08:54 <init3> Because netadmins are not users. Heartbleed was sure as hell the programmers fault.

08:54 <Cepheid> By the way, I do owe you an apology for earlier.

08:54 <Cepheid> I'm sorry for insulting you and telling you to learn English.

08:54 <init3> Thanks mate. I got a bit heated there too.

08:54 <Endien> But also studied UI/UX, and am naturally inclined to see the system from the users point of view.

08:54 <BatFruitPony> "I have only poured a glass of water on the PC heat sing to cool it down, it was running too hot! But your PC are not up to standard to handle the sudden cooling! I am outraged!"

08:54 <KilgoreTrout> Hey.

08:54 <Cepheid> I'm very temperamental.  I'll be honest, I'm looking to pick a fight with someone, but have no one to do it with.

08:55 <Cepheid> So I tend to take it out verbally.

08:55 <Endien> Aww.

08:55 <init3> Hey, if a debate remains civil you can pick a fight with me anytime. I'm cool with it.

08:55 <KilgoreTrout> What Funko mlp char would you want to be released next?

08:55 <Cepheid> BatFruitPony:  Oddly enough, that does happen.

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08:55 <BatFruitPony> I have no doubt

08:55 <Cepheid> My dad's encountered clients like that.

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08:55 <Endien> Cepheid: I actually think your point of view was enlightening and interesting.

08:56 <ConfusionRift> Hopefully that would be it.

08:56 <init3> But did you see my analogy about the police?

08:56 <Cepheid> I do get it, yeah.

08:56 <KilgoreTrout> I've been thinking about buying daring do next

08:56 <Cepheid> It's just from my perspective, I just think a risk assessment has to be done before unveiling stuff like that.  It's..  Yeah.  There was a bit of damage done.

08:56 <init3> I do appreciate your perspective as well Cepheid. I think I agree on some points.

08:57 <Cepheid> Up here in Canada, the Heartbleed bug ended up getting 100 SIN numbers stolen.

08:57 <init3> There was but I don't see how it could have been avoidable since it was OSS.

08:57 <init3> Mostly considering the git repo thing.

08:57 <KilgoreTrout> Canada...

08:57 <ConfusionRift> Seems to work. Yay... (notices the redundancy) Oh, right. Is all good? All calm?

08:57 <KilgoreTrout> I love Rush!

08:57 <Cepheid> Mostly calm now.

08:58 <init3> We even made up.

08:58 <Cepheid> init3:  You can get around git repos publishing information.

08:58 <ConfusionRift> Good. It would be a kick next time.

08:58 <Cepheid> You don't have to use a git repo to patch code.

08:58 <KilgoreTrout> Actually many great musicians are fron canada...

08:58 <Cepheid> Though circumventing the git repo does create some problems, heh.

08:59 <init3> I suppose someone could diff the source too, but fairly unlikley.

08:59 <init3> Right. I mean, it would have been great if it could been pushed out before everyone knew about it.

09:00 <init3> But I don't think it's practical.

09:00 <Cepheid> Yeah, but revealing it only made matters worse.

09:00 <ConfusionRift> Yep, all is normal. Darn lag was horrendous.

09:00 <Cepheid> Even in the black hat community, there's some secrecy.

09:00 <Cepheid> People keep the knowledge to themselves, etc.

09:00 <init3> And I think that's a big reason black hats are so dangerous.

09:01 <Cepheid> Especially the bigger bits of knowledge.

09:01 <init3> If they published their findings people like me and you developers would take care of them.

09:01 <Cepheid> Thus, Heartbleed may have been exploited, perhaps.  But by announcing it..

09:01 <Cepheid> It only allowed people to start creating simple scripts and applications that abused it.

09:01 <Cepheid> Which then proliferated out of control.

09:02 <Cepheid> Add in script kiddies and people wanting to cause mischief or looking for an easy buck or two..

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09:02 <init3> I mean, I know it isn't provable, but I really have a hard time believing nobody discovered it.

09:02 <Cepheid> And it just gets out of control really quickly.

09:02 <Cepheid> I admit it's true that it's hard to prove no one knew about it, but again.

09:02 <VinylScratch> That doesn't mean you should yell things from the rooftops - somebody you don't want listening might hear it. :P

09:02 <init3> I mean a buffer overrun is like the most (or at least near the top of the list) common vulnerability there is in software.

09:03 <KilgoreTrout> I hate how personal information is traded in the social media

09:03 <KilgoreTrout> and how all social interaction is shifting to facebook

09:03 <ConfusionRift> You do know businesses do too.

09:03 <init3> Well let me play psychologist for a sec. As well as share some of my personal experience in my career.

09:04 <KilgoreTrout> I don't use my real name nor have any photos of my face there.

09:04 <init3> Say this bug was quietly fixed. Nothing in the changelog, nothing in git.

09:04 <ConfusionRift> They just need a name, and some numbers.

09:04 <Cepheid> What's to convince people to update, right?

09:05 <BatFruitPony> KilgoreTrout, I have no doubt, fb, twitter, google and whatnot trade information

09:05 <init3> Trival for someone to diff the source at that point. Unlikley for sure but the bug's posibility of getting discovered just jumped at least 100 fold.

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09:05 <init3> Right. I am generally very busy. I will do a software update when I can unless there is a major security bug.

09:06 <BatFruitPony> There's just no way any corporation would antagonise federal services who'd "kindly ask" to share their private database

09:06 <Cepheid> There is that, yeah.

09:06 <init3> Sometimes at my boss's insistence.

09:06 <ConfusionRift> ...

09:06 <Cepheid> But, at the least..

09:06 <Cepheid> You could have a patch or two ready to go to test.

09:06 <ConfusionRift> It's called information marketing. All businesses do it, and social media is considered a business.

09:06 <init3> I'm not sure there wasn't.

09:07 <VinylScratch> It reallyis

09:07 <Cepheid> Yeah.  Actually there was, I think.

09:07 <BatFruitPony> Be smart, don't overshare

09:07 <VinylScratch> Well that's just common sense, yo

09:07 <Cepheid> It's just..  Bleh.

09:07 <Cepheid> It's a tricky area.

09:07 <init3> But the fact remains a very simple config change could fix it.

09:07 <Cepheid> It's times like that, you wish you could have control over the Internet. :P

09:08 <Cepheid> If you see unsecure servers, just block 'em from the net. :P

09:08 <init3> You also got to figure. Once OpenSSL fixed it, then it has to trickle down through different distro's repos.

09:08 <Cepheid> Problem is, control like that would be abused.

09:08 * Cepheid glares at China.

09:08 <init3> Haha

09:08 <init3> It would be nice.

09:09 <ConfusionRift> So yeah, this social media fear is both rational and irrational.

09:09 <Endien> BAM! You're out of the net until you learn your stuff!

09:09 <init3> Indeed I proposed that thing at work. Some people have unmanaged servers so we don't have access to them.

09:09 <Endien> Yeah, I'd love that. :)

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09:09 <ConfusionRift> init3: Maybe a form of certification?

09:09 <init3> And many customers are unresponsive to us opening tickets.

09:10 <Cepheid> Wouldn't work, ConfusionRift.

09:10 <Cepheid> I mean, look at driving.

09:10 <init3> I made a bash script to check for the vulnerability. Simple for loop. I think it was less than 5 lines.

09:10 <Endien> I'm really, really, REALLY, really, really, really, really, REALLY worried about how centralized social media is, and by extension how centralize a lot of society's current peer interaction is.

09:10 <init3> With our netblocks in there.

09:10 <Cepheid> A person can pass a driving test, but then be a total *YAY* on the road.

09:11 <init3> I wanted to block 443 on all the servers that failed.

09:11 <Cepheid> Same with certifications for stuff like this.

09:11 <init3> Was not allowed to do that however.

09:11 <Cepheid> A person can read a textbook, memorize it, do everything right for the certification and test, but then become lax and lazy afterwards.

09:11 <ConfusionRift> I mean, like a third party certification, which is managed by third party. Then again, good point.

09:11 <Knight_Dash> And I'll be going now. Goodbye!

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09:11 <ConfusionRift> Laters.

09:11 <ConfusionRift> Also, they could probaby find a way to make false ones.

09:11 <Cepheid> Plus people can be bought out.

09:11 <ConfusionRift> *probably

09:12 <Cepheid> I know this because one of my classmates got ahead in college by bribery.

09:12 <ConfusionRift> Many back home graduated by bribery.

09:12 <Cepheid> There was no way he was able to pass each semester through passing exams, assignments and such.

09:12 <ConfusionRift> Or through the easy way out.

09:12 <Cepheid> He was just that inept.  His parents though, were rich.

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09:13 <ConfusionRift> In my case, they would squeeze through by doing either summer class and passing with C, or by turning in a post-final project and passing with C.

09:13 <init3> Money buys EVERYTHING.

09:14 <ConfusionRift> It buys my water and air! :P

09:15 * Pi yawns

09:15 <Pi> Afternoon Rift

09:15 <Pi> and Cephy

09:15 <Pi> and init3

09:15 <ConfusionRift> Hey there Pi.

09:15 <Endien> Afternoon Pi

09:15 <init3> Hollah

09:16 <Endien> So, I've been meaning to ask, being new here... This doesn't seem to be all that much related to EQ daily. Is this more like a general pony&stuff discussion channel? :)

09:16 <Pi> #EquestriaSpoilers

09:16 <Cepheid> Yep.

09:16 <Cepheid> And sometimes we fight. :P

09:17 <Endien> Cepheid: Nooooo... really? :P

09:17 * Pi fites everypony

09:17 <init3> But we love each other.

09:17 <Pi> You're all terrrible ponies!

09:17 * Cepheid loves init3 by punching him REPEATEDLY.

09:17 * init3 hugs Cepheid while getting hit.

09:17 * init3 enjoys pain too much to care.

09:17 <Endien> terribel, everyun is sooo terribel!

09:17 <Pi> wow that hardcore

09:17 <Cepheid> Let's see if I can kill Corotrangul with poison and 3 people

09:18 <Pi> *thats

09:18 <ConfusionRift> We can discuss ponies here, that's what the channel is for. Of course, it's a general channel. Thing is, this chat is not exactly associated with EqD, it's just for EqD discussion (of some topics).

09:18 <Endien> Awww so cute! :D

09:18 <ConfusionRift> Also, of course, the spoilers channel IS full of spoilers. So watch out. :P

09:18 <init3> I think the only relation to EQD is that the bot tells us when there is a new post. Other than that...

09:18 <Endien> ConfusionRift: But, EqD being a general outlet, what's a difference between and EqD discussion and a general pony discussion? :)

09:19 <Endien> Spoilers channel?

09:19 <ConfusionRift> There isn't. You can discuss both here if you want. It's just that many talk about other things as well. :P

09:19 <ConfusionRift> #EquestriaSpoilers is a spoilers channel.

09:20 <Endien> ...should I be there too?

09:20 * VinylScratch chucklesz

09:20 <VinylScratch> ....oh dangit, keys.

09:20 <ConfusionRift> If you want. But remember, it's open to all spoilers and theories of said spoilers.

09:21 <Endien> How much spoilers are there... or wait, is that answer a spoiler in itself?

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09:21 <Endien> Consider I just recently finished S4, I'm not really caught up in what the current situation is.

09:21 <Pi> The current situation is that we are all waiting for S5

09:21 <Endien> Yeah :)

09:21 <ConfusionRift> S5 is still spoiler territory, till a few hours after an episode airs.

09:21 <Endien> And it's coming like in under two weeks.

09:22 * ConfusionRift nods.

09:22 <Endien> But are there like, leaked transscripts or something of the first S5 episodes? Or sohuld I go to #spoilers to ask about this?

09:23 <Endien> I probably should.

09:23 <Endien> This is dangerous territory, after all.

09:23 <Endien> Going.

09:23 <ConfusionRift> Alrighty. Better safe than sorry. Besides, S5 scripts ARE spoiler material.

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09:28 * Schism wakes up and yawnles. "Mornin'."

09:29 <ConfusionRift> Hello there

09:29 <Pi> What the hell is this?

09:29 <Pi> My paint brush is bent!

09:29 <VinylScratch> Oh no, end of the world.

09:29 <Pi> Oh well, time to get a new one...

09:29 <VinylScratch> :P

09:30 <Cepheid> Schism, Tirek wanted to know what you meant by "DSFix for Skyrim" :P

09:30 <Pi> "All the tortilla chips have been snapped in half, these are no longer edible"

09:31 <Cepheid> Guh, this is annoying.

09:31 <Cepheid> Cernunnos has to die from Curse damage if I want his rare drop.

09:32 <Pi> "oi Cernunnos! **** you!" *dies*

09:34 <ConfusionRift> That's one of multiple things I dislike. Chance drops.

09:34 <Cepheid> It's not that it's a chance drop.

09:34 <Cepheid> It's that curse damage works weird.

09:34 <Cepheid> Curse is a status effect that causes the enemy to take damage when they damage me.

09:35 <Cepheid> SUNUVA-

09:35 <Cepheid> It was the last hit, and what kills him?  Counterattack!

09:36 <Cepheid> I'm gonna go get a few more levels.  I need Curse maxed out..

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09:39 <Cepheid> Unixkitty is becoming one of my stronger fighters pretty quickly...

09:45 <KilgoreTrout> decent lunch

09:45 <KilgoreTrout> So, which pony should funko make next?

09:48 <VinylScratch> Haven't they done most of them by now?

09:48 <VinylScratch> I kinda find it hard to think of a popular pony they've yet to do

09:48 <KilgoreTrout> Maud Pie

09:49 <KilgoreTrout> Sunset Shimmer

09:49 <VinylScratch> Granted, I'm not fully familiar with Funko's line xD

09:50 <KilgoreTrout> I kind of recently discovered it, went through everything they've published and thought about which ones I'd want to own.

09:50 <init3> Aryanne lol.

09:51 <KilgoreTrout> Actually I'd like to get cheerilee also.

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09:51 <KilgoreTrout> Well technically i'm buying them for my daughter

09:52 <VinylScratch> That's what they all say. :P

09:52 <Endien> Cheerilee! <3

09:52 <KilgoreTrout> Yes!

09:52 <KilgoreTrout> Among the best ponies.

09:53 <ConfusionRift> I'm gonna buy it for my future daughter that I don't have. :P

09:53 <init3> What was worse was when I was trying to buy makeup for myself (don't ask why). God I felt werd.

09:53 * Schism wonders about a peculiar blind spot in fiction. "What would be the pony species name for 'homo sapiens?', or indeed any human precedent? The higher classification of 'homininae' doesn't fit with the facts, as 'homo' or, at least its root, means 'same'."

09:53 <init3> And had no clue what I was looking for

09:53 <init3> So I had to ask a random woman.

09:53 <KilgoreTrout> I tend to like characters which are closer to my age group more.

09:53 <KilgoreTrout> Well, assumed age group.

09:53 <BatFruitPony> Pff

09:54 <BatFruitPony> I was shopping for pantyhose one day, cheapest, biggest and toughest if possible

09:55 <BatFruitPony> And since I needed quite a surplus of those, I went without excuses into shops with that

09:55 <Cepheid> Whee, one more level and I max out Dark Curse on Unikitty.

09:55 <BatFruitPony> Enjoyed the reactions and looks a lot

09:55 <init3> Sounds like you are about to commit a robbery.

09:55 <BatFruitPony> And I needed it for textile architecture

09:55 <BatFruitPony> Basically models of humongous tents

09:56 <BatFruitPony> This kind of architecture is not as simple as you might think

09:56 <KilgoreTrout> I don't really think of it as simple

09:56 <BatFruitPony> It is unconventional, self-solving and tricky to anchor properly

09:56 <init3> Hmm

09:56 <KilgoreTrout> I have observed how large tents are built

09:57 <KilgoreTrout> There is some severe complexity in those.

09:57 <KilgoreTrout> It needs to hold wind and heavy rain among other things

09:57 <BatFruitPony> The edge trusses, support trusses and tension cables are tricky indeed

09:57 * init3 looked up pictures and is quite impressed.

09:58 <BatFruitPony> Meh wind and heavy rain are negated by the curvature and tension

09:58 <ConfusionRift> If done right. :P

09:58 <KilgoreTrout> That's of course what a layman sees as the biggest challenge.

09:58 <BatFruitPony> If you have a continuous double-curvature in your "fabric" it won't flex in the wind and withstand big loads

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09:59 * init3 snickers

09:59 <init3> You ever have problems and called your fabric dumb?

10:00 <init3> huehue

10:00 <BatFruitPony> Though I also went for skirt shopping too, no excuses there either and I didn't felt like making up something like GF having same hip size or anything

10:00 <KilgoreTrout> Actually graphic design is quite different from what I once expected it to be.

10:00 <KilgoreTrout> Even when having complete freedom.

10:01 <KilgoreTrout> It's actually closer to how fashion works than I would have ever thought.

10:01 <KilgoreTrout> It's a lot about the balance between timeless and trendy against dated.

10:01 <Schism> BatFruitPony: A TG author once said that's not in any way a valid excuse.  Even a few months working at a clothing store will burn sizes into one's brain, and they can always tell.

10:02 <Schism> So the best bet is just to buy the largest size anyway, as you did.  :)

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10:03 <Cepheid> There, maxed out curse skill.

10:03 <Cepheid> Let's try this again..

10:04 <KilgoreTrout> One thing is illustration. There is a lot of respect towards photorealism, although realism is kind of "beginner or early mid level" in illustration.

10:04 <Schism> Cepheid: What does Curse do again in Etrian Odyssey?

10:04 <Gigabit> http://img05.deviantart.net/04a4/i/2015/081/d/9/super_fluff_by_captainpudgemuffin-d8mrzj0.png

10:04 <Cepheid> Causes the target to take damage when it deals out damage.

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10:05 <ConfusionRift> Kinda strange curse.

10:05 <Schism> Nah, seems pretty straightforward.  Kind of weaponizing karma.

10:05 <ConfusionRift> Still. Usually, curse either prevents attacks, magic attacks, or works as a form of confusion.

10:06 <BatFruitPony> Agreed Schism

10:06 <Schism> Preventing attacks is bind; there are dark-aligned magic attacks; confusion is already a status ailment.

10:06 <KilgoreTrout> it's kind of surprising how many illustrators who do a simplistic or naivistic style can whip out a "deviantart pencilled siberian husky"

10:06 <KilgoreTrout> all of them

10:06 * ConfusionRift shrugs, not much into RPGs.

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10:07 <KilgoreTrout> I'm into books

10:07 <KilgoreTrout> I have this 70 euro gift card to an online book store

10:07 <KilgoreTrout> i got it from my wife when I turned 33

10:07 <Schism> ConfusionRift: In most RPGs, status ailments are either something to shrug off or completely useless against a foe.  ATLUS completely inverts that.  If you don't pay attention to an enemy's status weaknesses, you will die, and die again.

10:08 <ConfusionRift> Atlus, NIS, and some Enix games.

10:08 <KilgoreTrout> I don't know what I will buy yet. one choice is to get some classics I love as hardcover

10:09 <Schism> Some Square games, even.  There are bosses which are subseptible to Mute, perhaps most notably the White Dragon in FF8.  If you hit it with Mute, it can't do anything.  Period.

10:09 <KilgoreTrout> like a pile of Vonnegut books, of course. Some southern gothic, maybe.

10:09 <Schism> Etrian Odyssey takes it to another level, though.  Understanding how to leverage status ailments is extremely beneficial even in simple fights.

10:09 <ConfusionRift> Curse them zombies. The most effective attacks were healing spells.

10:10 * Schism suplexes the Phantom Train before using a Phoenix Down on it. Just because.

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10:14 <Schism> FF6 is fun in part because the bosses, and even some enemies, have some fairly esoteric weaknesses.  DeathOn0MP is one, where if you Rasp or Osmose the foe down to nothing, it simply vanishes.

10:14 <KilgoreTrout> the egyptian, elements of harmony...

10:15 <Schism> The "Death on 0 MP" is in fact the best way of dealing with one particular boss, who rather foolishly states at the beginning of the fight, 'I AM MAGIC'.

10:16 <Cepheid> Oh good GODS THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE.

10:16 <Schism> Ah, the sweet siren's call of an ATLUS player.

10:16 <KilgoreTrout> 45 euros for hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. uh, nope

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10:16 <Schism> What, do you mean the /game/...?

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10:17 <Cepheid> Nah, this drop.

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10:17 <Schism> Cepheid: Ah.  Enemy drops when it kills itself with a Curse?

10:17 <Camopony> Hello every pony!!!

10:17 <Cepheid> I get Cernunnos down to minimum health.  Curse, no effect.  Curse, no effect.  Curse, no effect.  He summons his helpers.  Curse takes effect.

10:17 <Cepheid> He starts getting healed by his helpers.

10:17 <Schism> *facepalm*

10:17 <Cepheid> More than the damage he takes from curse.

10:17 <Cepheid> Kill the helpers, curse wears off.

10:17 <Cepheid> REPEAT.

10:17 <Schism> Cepheid: How many helpers?

10:18 <Cepheid> Two.

10:18 <Camopony> I have a question for the writes of the chat.

10:18 <Cepheid> Strong enough that I can't one-shot either.

10:18 <Schism> Kill one helper, take helper 2 down to minimum health, take Cernunnos down to minimum health as best you can, curse, kill helper 2.

10:19 <Cepheid> That's what I'm trying to do.

10:19 <Camopony> How do I make this one sentance sound better? It just doesn't sound right to me the way i have it curently worded.

10:19 <Camopony> It was the single largest living organism on the planet.

10:19 <Cepheid> I'm also doing an alternative solution.

10:19 <Cepheid> Wearing weak armour.  Curse damage is based on how much damage my team takes.

10:19 <Schism> Hm.  Replace 'living organism' with 'being'?

10:20 <Schism> Cepheid: That sounds like a plan made of pain, horror and hate.  Let's do it! *thumbs up*

10:20 <Camopony> It's a plant, that sounds better but still not quit right

10:20 <Cepheid> Oh by the way Schism?

10:20 <Schism> Aye?

10:20 <Cepheid> I made it to Claret Hollows.

10:20 <Schism> Woo!

10:21 <Cepheid> Stratum 6.  AKA:  I killed the final boss of the main campaign.

10:21 <Cepheid> That's why I deviated from the Misfits team.

10:21 <Schism> With your starting party.

10:21 <Cepheid> I can't screw around now.

10:21 <Cepheid> I need the best gear and items I can find.

10:21 * Schism nodnods. "That's sane."

10:21 <Cepheid> And that means making up team members that have the skills and equipment that can get me the gear, and kill the superbosses.

10:22 <Camopony> Schism:  I'm am talking about a tree in my fic and I am classifying it as a sentient creature.

10:22 <Schism> Just call them mercenaries, Cepheid.

10:23 <Camopony> so calling it a 'being' makes the sentance sound better it doesn't fit what I'm talking about.

10:25 <BatFruitPony> Hmm

10:25 <BatFruitPony> Meat industry is very high risk, yet it is around and prominent

10:25 <Schism> "Ponderous as its mind was in its thoughts, I could feel them turning towards me like the shadow of a mountain range - inexorable, never ceasing.  The creature's mind, which worked with ideas larger than most, had its attention focused entirely upon my minute stature: and as I stared up into the rising depths of the monstrosity, I knew that, even if I had a momentary respite, it would

10:25 <Schism> never forget me."

10:26 <ConfusionRift> Rather large quote.

10:26 <Schism> Sorry, I have no clue where that came from.  Not a quote.

10:26 * ConfusionRift snickers.

10:26 <ConfusionRift> Heheheeee... never mind. :P

10:26 <Schism> Stop that.

10:27 <Schism> No, no, I got it.

10:27 * ConfusionRift smirks.

10:27 <ConfusionRift> But... whyyyyyyy? :P

10:27 <Schism> Camopony: One organism, or a collectivity of organisms?  Simon R. Green wrote about an entire planet covered in plant life, perhaps the largest and most peculiar neural network to ever exist.

10:28 <Cepheid> Thanks for that.  I really needed that counter attack.  *Removes that character for future attempts as that's becoming a liability.*

10:29 <Camopony> One, it is a sentient tree

10:29 <Camopony> You ever watch avatar the last airbender?

10:29 <Schism> I haven't, but I am familiar with the Yggdrasil.

10:31 <Mike_Coltfield> I think I might be a little bit silly.

10:32 <BatFruitPony> I can't stop being amazed that I have disassembled and re-assembled a car carburetor and my grandpa's double-barrel rifle at age 5-6

10:32 <BatFruitPony> Those were my lego of the day

10:32 <Mike_Coltfield> The NFS+ partition on my on-the-go drive (which looks like a miniature Monolith) is Minilith, and the NTFS partition is Whinnylith

10:33 <Schism> Cepheid: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/289/9/a/eo___necrosis_sounds_like_a_really_fun_spell_by_etri_an-d64xfit.png

10:33 <Camopony> Schism: that actualy is very similar to what I am trying to portay but only on a single planet.

10:34 <Schism> You might as well go with 'the largest mind on the planet', then.

10:35 <Schism> The 'sapient' part is an unnecessary modifier.

10:35 <Camopony> Would the word creature work in this instance?

10:36 <Schism> No, because while killer whales are large, they are not known for penning philosophical diatribes.

10:37 *** Unixkitty is now known as Unikitty|Work

10:37 <Cepheid> FINALLY!

10:37 <Camopony> well sapient doesn't exactly fit, the tree is about as sentient as an insect

10:38 <Cepheid> ...

10:38 * Cepheid twitches as he finds out what the equipment reward is for the rare drop.

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10:39 <Endien> Whaat? They're no longer unixkitty?

10:39 <Schism> Camopony: Oh.  Single biggest organism, then.

10:39 <Schism> I must have misread what you'd said before.

10:39 <Endien> Do they turn into an unikitty when at work?

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10:40 <Cepheid> Yes, because they're working with numbers, numbers, numbers.

10:40 <Camopony> ah switch the word largest for biggest

10:40 <Camopony> that actualy sounds better

10:40 <Schism> Cepheid: So, what was the equipment reward, eh?

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10:40 <Cepheid> Schism:  Demon Mail, usable by Landsknechts only.  I don't have a Landsknecht.

10:41 <Endien> Cepheid: makes sense.

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10:42 <Unikitty|Work> Cepheid, don't forget business!

10:43 <Schism> What's the mail do, auto-curse attacking opponents?

10:43 <Endien> Hmm... woudln't Unikitty|Work basically be BusinessKitty, though?

10:44 <Schism> Camo: Glad to help, I guess?

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10:44 <Cepheid> Schism:  No.  Just high defense.

10:44 <Cepheid> Like, really high defense.

10:45 <Cepheid> Boss rare drops result in excessively powerful gear.

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10:45 <Schism> Ah, now that much I do know.

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10:45 <Cepheid> Case in point, Unikitty's weilding the most powerful weapon I can acquire.

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10:46 * Schism feeds a sheep a golden stinkhorn, then kills it for excessive experience.

10:47 <Cepheid> There we are.  Venom Spine acquired.

10:48 <Cepheid> That results in a weapon I can use.

10:48 <Cepheid> Arc Drawer.  Bow.  +191 ATK, +5 VIT, +3 TEC.

10:49 <Cepheid> Usable only by Survivalists and Troubadours(?)

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10:49 <Schism> Stratum boss, Corotrangul, kill with poison damage... hmm.

10:49 <Schism> And jeez.

10:51 <Cepheid> Yeah.

10:51 <Cepheid> Not that hard to do, actually.

10:52 <Cepheid> Poison damage is surprisingly powerful.

10:52 <Schism> Oh, I know.

10:52 <Cepheid> Maxed out, 300-400 a tick.

10:52 <Cepheid> Boosted, 700-800.

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10:52 <Schism> Poison in Etrian Odyssey games is a leeeetle bit different from your standard type.

10:52 <Cepheid> But yeah..

10:52 <Schism> In that it actually works.

10:52 <Cepheid> This bow raises the attack power of Vinyl an insane amount.

10:53 <Schism> Huzzah!

10:53 <Cepheid> ATK 256->363, DEF 155->171

10:53 <Schism> That's not insane, that's gibbering madness.

10:53 <Schism> Though now that you're in S6, it still won't be enough.

10:53 <Cepheid> There'll be stronger weapons.

10:54 <Cepheid> The stratum weapons are rarely the highest tier.

10:54 <Cepheid> They're just really far up there is all.

10:54 <Schism> Pretty high, though... yeah.

10:54 <Cepheid> There's a minor catch though.

10:54 <Cepheid> Guess how much the bow costs.

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10:54 <Cepheid> 163,000en.  And I can only make one at the moment.  I need a Venom Spine for each one I make.

10:55 <Schism> ... Yeeeesh.

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10:55 <Schism> Well, um... have fun with that...?

10:55 <Cepheid> B22F to the rescue!

10:55 <Cepheid> There's a grand total of 8 harvest points on that floor.

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10:56 <Cepheid> Bit risky, but with a team of 3 choppers, it's possible to pull a B1F on that floor.

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11:00 <aqualycool22> Aww...

11:00 <aqualycool22> A YouTuber I like is sick.

11:00 <aqualycool22> He's in the hospital. D:

11:02 <init3> Markiplier?

11:03 * ConfusionRift nods.

11:03 <aqualycool22> Yup.

11:03 <aqualycool22> Rifty knows.

11:03 * aqualycool22 Nuzzles.

11:04 <init3> I tend to hate most "let's plays" but I do find that guy amusing.

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11:05 <ConfusionRift> Watch his stuff from time to time, but I tend to not follow much.

11:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Morning Discussion #90 [ http://tinyurl.com/kofb466 ]

11:05 <ConfusionRift> Most "Let's Plays" bother me.

11:05 <aqualycool22> I think Markiplier and the guy who player Harry Potter are cute. My celeb crushes. o3o

11:07 <Cepheid> Oh hells bells.

11:07 <Cepheid> I should have taken a closer look at that FOE.

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11:08 <aqualycool22> I don't know why I think Mark is adorable. I think it's that big nose and beard I like.

11:08 <aqualycool22> I'm worried for him.

11:09 <Saxopi> ...

11:09 <Saxopi> Ehh..

11:09 *** Saxopi is now known as Pi

11:09 <Cepheid> And that secondAnd a

11:09 <Cepheid> Ah.

11:09 <Cepheid> And a second attempt on that FOE..

11:10 <Cepheid> Resulted in Vinyl getting Isaaced to death(Repeatedly stabbed by a scythed monstraosity), with Faraday getting decapitated.  Twice.

11:11 <Cepheid> Fortunately I got revenge.  Turned it into a statue.

11:19 <ConfusionRift> I do feel kinda tired. Gonna rest up.

11:19 <Pi> Night

11:19 <ConfusionRift> See ya laters everypony.

11:19 <Cepheid> G'night.

11:19 <Cepheid> I'll be staying up against my will.

11:19 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe. :P

11:19 * ConfusionRift gives Cepheid a pillow to rest on.

11:20 * ConfusionRift waves away.

11:20 <Cepheid> Trying to correct my sleeping pattern.

11:20 <Cepheid> And laters.

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11:20 <Cepheid> There we go.

11:20 <Cepheid> Got the weapon.

11:21 <Cepheid> Really all that remains at this point is Iwaoropenelep, for the main five stratum bosses.

11:21 <Cepheid> Then it's all the quest bosses.

11:24 <Cepheid> ... Actually no, there's one other thing I can get.  I forgot a piece of armour for Vinyl.  It's cheaper though, so I can get it pretty quickly.

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11:29 <Pi> brb

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11:29 <KilgoreTrout> are you guys playing an mmo as a group or something?

11:30 <Cepheid> Nah, I'm playing Etrian Odyssey Untold.  I just name my characters after chat members.

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11:40 <Cepheid> Well, with this gear under my belt..

11:40 <Cepheid> Onto Alraune.

11:42 <KilgoreTrout> eeeeyup. Found the best color scheme for ED OC

11:42 <KilgoreTrout> i love yves klein blue

11:43 <KilgoreTrout> i think luna's mane is yves klein

11:43 <KilgoreTrout> at least close to it

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11:45 <Knight_Dash> Hello, people.

11:46 <KilgoreTrout> yo

11:47 <Knight_Dash> I just learned about a thing.

11:48 <Knight_Dash> I learned through TVTropes, but having used the EQD search function, EQD has posted about this.

11:49 <Knight_Dash> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WesternAnimation/FillyFuntasia

11:50 <Knight_Dash> I am not sure what to make of this.

11:50 <KilgoreTrout> I'd say pass

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11:53 <KilgoreTrout> The first reason is that it tries to use mlp:s theme which lowers all my expectations regarding originality.

11:53 <Pi> This is frustrating

11:54 <Pi> "No gravatar found for specified email address" It's right there, you idiot!

11:54 <Knight_Dash> It does? I didn't even watch the trailers linked.

11:54 <Knight_Dash> Oh, wait

11:54 <KilgoreTrout> Second, it's possibly heavily aimed towards kids. I think what made FIM so interesting towards adults is that Lauren Faust made it to appeal to all ages, as grown ups are forced to watch saturday morning cartoons too.

11:54 <Knight_Dash> by "theme" I assumed you meant "theme music".

11:54 <KilgoreTrout> Well, it has talking pastel equines.

11:55 <KilgoreTrout> i don't see it as a genre

11:57 <KilgoreTrout> watching the trailer

11:57 <KilgoreTrout> looks a wee bit like the previous gens

11:57 <KilgoreTrout> definite pass

11:57 <Cepheid> Don't hold me on this, but I'm pretty sure Filly Funtasia was an April Fools Day joke.

11:58 <KilgoreTrout> I don't know as even disney tries to cash in with ponies.

11:59 <Knight_Dash> From what I'm seeing in the EQD comments, the Equestria Daily-style website *was* a joke website, but the show itself seems to be an actual thing.

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12:00 <KilgoreTrout> Oh Disney...

12:01 *** Nilak|Sleep is now known as Nilak_the_dragoness

12:01 <KilgoreTrout> They've had the princess cash-in for how long?

12:01 <Knight_Dash> To quote the EQD commenter: "According to one of the YouTube comments, it was started as a joke site - hence the blatant similarities ("Sothesti", "Drawfilly", etc.). But I guess it's become kind of the premier fansite for the show now, considering the show creators released this trailer to them exclusively a day before the public release."

12:01 <KilgoreTrout> I remember when disney plush toys were mickey only and VERY sparse.

12:01 *** Nilak_the_dragoness is now known as Pony_38634

12:02 <KilgoreTrout> And Rovio is another thing...

12:02 <KilgoreTrout> Wonder if they hit any piggies on their way down.

12:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: EQD Mascot Report: Day 2 - More Than One?  [ http://tinyurl.com/nut4o9v ]

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12:03 <Knight_Dash> There is one criterion by which I may judge this show.

12:04 <Knight_Dash> If it fails to pass the test, it's crusadin' time.

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12:04 <Knight_Dash> Well, not really crusading. I probably won't actually do anything but oppose it and hope it dies.

12:04 <Knight_Dash> Since giving it attention may help it live, which is bad.

12:05 <Cepheid> Alraune.  Must be killed while asleep.

12:05 <Knight_Dash> Well, this all assuming it fails to pass the criterion and proves itself to be the AntiFiM. Which is like the Antichrist, except ponies.

12:05 <KilgoreTrout> I have no plans to give it any attention.

12:05 <Cepheid> ...

12:06 <Cepheid> Aaaand that was a total, utter failure.

12:06 <KilgoreTrout> i watched like 30 seconds of the trailer and that's more than I would give most

12:06 <Solo_Act> ?

12:06 <Knight_Dash> What, my joke? Was it that bad?

12:06 <Cepheid> No.

12:06 <Solo_Act> I just realized that I'm logged in.

12:06 <Cepheid> My attempt at Alraune.

12:06 <Cepheid> The boss just thrashed me in three turns.

12:06 <Solo_Act> repost, cephy? I wanna see~

12:06 <Knight_Dash> Oh. What game is this?

12:06 <KilgoreTrout> he's been monologuing his gameplay for two days now

12:07 <Cepheid> Etrian Odyssey Untold.

12:07 <Cepheid> My entire team was wiped out by a boss in three turns.

12:07 <Knight_Dash> I've noticed, Kilgoretrout, but wasn't sure what game it was. But I see. *goes to look up game*

12:07 * Solo_Act thought Cephy meant art. :c

12:08 <KilgoreTrout> I'm really surprised why disney decides to cash in with ponies.

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12:08 <KilgoreTrout> Like... friggin disney.

12:08 <KilgoreTrout> Mickey mouse and magic and stuff. And even star wars now,.

12:09 <Solo_Act> disney cashed in with ponies? when!? 0.o

12:10 <KilgoreTrout> http://www.toysrus.com/graphics/product_images/pTRU1-15745794dt.jpg

12:10 <KilgoreTrout> palace pets

12:10 <KilgoreTrout> I really consider myself immune to things I love turning sour.

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12:11 <KilgoreTrout> I used to love metallica and in flames and both are absolutely horrible now.

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12:12 <KilgoreTrout> Disney went slowly down and they still produce some decent stuff. It's a large company.

12:12 <KilgoreTrout> But it's still quite bad.

12:12 <KilgoreTrout> The house of mouse cartoons were pretty horrible.

12:12 <KilgoreTrout> And the things it did to Miley Cyrus. Thank god she twerked herself out of that.

12:14 <BatFruitPony> Holleee mothballs!

12:14 <KilgoreTrout> Actually it's nice that there are shows with quality these days. Pony and adventure time among the best, of course.

12:14 <BatFruitPony> It is so fun to be kamikazze in Planetside 2 and just run around with a knife

12:14 <Schism> Disney still does, on occasion, some fairly excellent work.  

12:15 <BatFruitPony> Bad K/D but good fun

12:15 <KilgoreTrout> it does

12:15 <Schism> Frozen was very well done, for example.

12:15 <Schism> The signal-to-noise ratio is very low, though.

12:15 <KilgoreTrout> Haven't seen it yet, but I believe it is great.

12:15 <Cepheid> Schism:  Alraune is harder than I remember.

12:16 <Schism> I suggest you check it out at your soonest convenience; it's an excellent tale.  Cepheid: Alraune probably /is/ harder.

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12:17 <KilgoreTrout> I guess they still have some quality studios within.

12:17 <PokemonFan> Sup?

12:18 <KilgoreTrout> I actually saw pony for the first time from Fox.

12:18 <PokemonFan> What?!

12:18 <Cepheid> Schism:  She essentially wasted the entire team in three turns.

12:18 * KilgoreTrout is non-us

12:18 <PokemonFan> Was it an actual episode?

12:18 <KilgoreTrout> I think it was the one with rarity and the diamond dogs

12:19 <KilgoreTrout> Didn't like it too much, but saw some others which were good.

12:19 <KilgoreTrout> My daughter didn't care about it at all at those times so we kind of only watched dora the explorer.

12:19 <PokemonFan> Oh I'm not a fan of that episode, but good to see ponies taking over.

12:19 <PokemonFan> I hate Dora with a burnin g passion.

12:20 <KilgoreTrout> It's horrible

12:20 <KilgoreTrout> Even worse than teletubbies.

12:20 <KilgoreTrout> Even my kid hates it now and she's 2.

12:20 <KilgoreTrout> oops. not dora I mean

12:20 <KilgoreTrout> but teletubbies

12:20 <KilgoreTrout> have had a few rough nights

12:21 <Nilak_the_dragoness> Swiper, no swiping. Swiper, no swiping. Swiper, noooo swiping!

12:21 <KilgoreTrout> She still kind of likes dora.

12:21 <KilgoreTrout> You know what swiper no swiping translates to?

12:21 <KilgoreTrout> FUS RO DAH

12:21 <Nilak_the_dragoness> Teletubbies is freaky

12:22 * Cepheid finds the first of the harvest points in the Claret Hollows. Bit of a distance away. Attempts a harvest with the harvest team.

12:22 <Nilak_the_dragoness> An acid trip for kids

12:22 <PokemonFan> I used to love teletubbies when i was like 4

12:22 <KilgoreTrout> Teletubbies came out in 1996 i guess

12:22 <KilgoreTrout> I was like 15 back then

12:23 <KilgoreTrout> Kind of surprising how it's all retro now.

12:23 <PokemonFan> Wow you must be like 32?

12:23 <KilgoreTrout> yeah

12:23 <KilgoreTrout> I was about a week ago

12:23 <KilgoreTrout> i'm 33

12:23 <PokemonFan> Wow as i right?

12:23 <PokemonFan> Oh!;) So close!

12:24 <PokemonFan> Guess my age! It ends with a 4

12:24 <KilgoreTrout> 24, i would say

12:25 <KilgoreTrout> according to the information I have

12:25 <Knight_Dash> 1014 - You're actually Princess Celestia.

12:25 <PokemonFan> 14 actually!:D

12:25 <PokemonFan> LOL i wish i was a pony

12:25 <PokemonFan> I'm to lazy to caps i

12:25 <Nilak_the_dragoness> I wish I was Celestia. Then I would go and hug all my little ponies.

12:25 <KilgoreTrout> Actually around 16-20 is one of the great periods in life

12:25 <PokemonFan> I'm really bad at typing

12:26 <PokemonFan> I'm going to high school next year and I can't wait!XD

12:26 <Nilak_the_dragoness> 1996...I was 7 then.

12:26 <KilgoreTrout> That's a fun period.

12:26 <Nilak_the_dragoness> 26 now.

12:26 <Nilak_the_dragoness> That was when Pokemon came out in NA

12:27 <PokemonFan> 1996 I was non exisistent

12:27 <KilgoreTrout> I wish I had read more books back then

12:27 <PokemonFan> Pokemon!

12:27 <KilgoreTrout> I would have loved ringworld even more then

12:28 <PokemonFan> I wish I was around whe pokemon began

12:29 <PokemonFan> I love reading so much!:D

12:29 <KilgoreTrout> I remember everyone being kind of shocked about it. Nobody knew about any games and the TV series seemed really random and over the top when compared to anything else.

12:30 <KilgoreTrout> I recommend ringworld. It's space opera at its best.

12:30 <PokemonFan> Christians used to think it was satanic

12:30 <KilgoreTrout> And hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.

12:31 <PokemonFan> I'm reading a book right now:P

12:31 <KilgoreTrout> Usually if hardcore christians think of something as satanic, it's good.

12:31 <PokemonFan> Lol

12:32 <PokemonFan> Because a cute pink round jigglypuff will kill us all

12:33 <KilgoreTrout> Dungeons and dragons is really fun. Metal is awesome.

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12:34 <PokemonFan> hi wat

12:34 <Knight_Dash> Via TvTropes I found a link to a discussion on a Christian gaming website (I'm guessing a Christian brony from that site linked it). What I saw was some presumably Christian bronies arguing with other Christians who believed that a male watching MLP was akin to a male wearing a dress - Both "unnatural" in the eyes of God and a means for Satan to subtly tempt us. Or something like that. I only saw a little of this discussion, and what

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12:34 <Knight_Dash> Or person, maybe, as like I said, it was a single person who said this specific stuff I just quoted.

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12:35 <KilgoreTrout> Yup.

12:35 <KilgoreTrout> Team Satan, here.

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12:36 <KilgoreTrout> Although I'm an atheist, but I like to say that.

12:36 <KilgoreTrout> Just to screw around.

12:36 <PokemonFan> Just because we are different christians think we are sinners

12:36 <PokemonFan> its nt like they arent

12:36 <KilgoreTrout> Not all, but I guess there are some that do.

12:37 <KilgoreTrout> I think they're using religion as an excuse for their own misanthropy.

12:37 <Knight_Dash> Yeah, not all is what I was about to say. I mean, there are Christians in the fandom.

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12:38 <PokemonFan> yep

12:38 <KilgoreTrout> It's kind of sad that people whom are generally kind and caring shift towards antagonism out of fear.

12:39 <Knight_Dash> Well, like I said, though - The person in this case was actually quite polite about it, which is to their credit.

12:39 <KilgoreTrout> Kudos to that.

12:41 <PokemonFan> meh

12:41 <KilgoreTrout> I kind of feel sorry for people who have to go through that. They have no tools to question the fear which creates the prejudice and hate.

12:41 <Cepheid> Claret Hollows... It's harder than that last location of Etrian Oddysey 4..

12:41 <Cepheid> ... For now, anyways.

12:42 <Cepheid> ...

12:42 <Cepheid> Is a white blood cell attacking me?

12:42 <PokemonFan> no white blood cells are good

12:42 <Cepheid> ... A white blood cell is attacking me.

12:43 <Cepheid> A Leukocyte.

12:43 <Knight_Dash> I'm fortunate in that my dad was open-minded and hands off about religion. He wasn't religious himself - My mom kind of was, but she died when I was 13.

12:43 <Cepheid> A floating freaking Leukocyte.

12:43 <Knight_Dash> So I was able to find my own way, I guess.

12:44 <KilgoreTrout> My wife is religious

12:44 <KilgoreTrout> We have a masonic rule in discussion.

12:45 <KilgoreTrout> No religion. We cover politics from time to time, though.

12:45 <PokemonFan> Im sorry about your mom. Knight Dash

12:45 <Knight_Dash> Thank you, PokemonFan.

12:45 <PokemonFan> It must have been so tough for you when you were so young

12:46 <Knight_Dash> Yeah... It was.

12:46 <Knight_Dash> We didn't even have any advance warning. She wasn't sick, there were no symptoms - It was a brain aneurysm.

12:46 <PokemonFan> Oh

12:47 <PokemonFan> I know she may be gone, but her spirit watches over you.

12:47 <Knight_Dash> But I'm sorry, I don't want to get you down. Back on topic..

12:49 <PokemonFan> It's okay! I didn't want you to feel down.:P

12:49 <Knight_Dash> I'm not sure whether I'd be able to marry someone with a vastly different worldview from my own, KilgoreTrout. That may just be the passionate idealism of my (relative) youth speaking, though.

12:49 <Knight_Dash> And thanks, PokemonFan. :)

12:49 <KilgoreTrout> I actually lost my faith a while ago.

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12:49 <Cepheid> ... Why isn't my map-

12:49 <Knight_Dash> Oh. After you married, then?

12:49 <KilgoreTrout> I always had this indoor voice. A doubt.

12:49 <KilgoreTrout> Yeah.

12:50 <Cepheid> Sunuva, did I choose no for saving map data?

12:50 <Knight_Dash> I see, I see.

12:50 <Pi> Augh

12:50 <KilgoreTrout> Then it all came crashing down when I heard someone say that the 2004 tsunami could be a work of god.

12:50 <Pi> Gravatar's not working

12:50 <KilgoreTrout> That was such a vile and selfish thing to say.

12:50 <KilgoreTrout> That'

12:51 <PokemonFan> I am trying to be more religious, but I can't stand religious people trying to force it on  me.

12:52 <PokemonFan> And none of it makes any sense

12:52 <KilgoreTrout> That's when I thought about how much christianity is based on location. The things that tourists do in thailand is kind of big in a western-centered perspective, but most of the victims were non-western who were just going on with their lives.

12:53 <KilgoreTrout> After that I thought that what position am I to decide which one of all the gods we have or have had is right.

12:54 <KilgoreTrout> Then I read the god delusion by dawkins because I was very distressed about all that. It kind of helped me cope with these things.

12:54 <KilgoreTrout> After that I felt peace.

12:54 <Cepheid> This place is going to be a problem.

12:54 <Cepheid> Gasser Tree, poisoned the entire party, wiped it.

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12:55 <PokemonFan> I can't believe because its all just so made up.

12:55 <Knight_Dash> I haven't actually read that, KilgoreTrout, but I've heard it mentioned.

12:55 <KilgoreTrout> So I guess, as some gain their faith by a miracle and a feeling of belonging, I lost mine through my morals and a feeling of doubt.

12:56 <Unikitty|Work> Did you people not catch that religion and politics are seriously not for this channel?

12:56 <KilgoreTrout> But that's all I guess.

12:57 <PokemonFan> We can talk about whatever we want:O

12:57 <Cepheid> Uh..

12:57 <Cepheid> No, no you can't.

12:57 <Knight_Dash> Well, there *are* chat rules here, which.. we are kind of violating. Even though the discussion's gone civilly without a hitch.

12:57 <KilgoreTrout> I guess there was a consensus and everyone was being civil about it.

12:58 <Unikitty|Work> And I think that's lovely, but if you're going to want to continue it, I suggest moving to #EquestrianDiscourse

12:58 <Cepheid> The topic has the potential to go from civil to pretty bad in a snap.

12:58 <Knight_Dash> *clicks* Oh, I forgot that was a thing. As I've never had to use it.

12:59 <KilgoreTrout> And that's when I stop.

12:59 <Knight_Dash> I guess you're right, Cepheid.

12:59 <Cepheid> Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way, KilgoreTrout.  Remember earlier with me and init3? :P

12:59 <PokemonFan> fine fine

12:59 <Unikitty|Work> I'm sure they understand, Cepheid. It's not a serious problem when people are being reasonable about it

12:59 <KilgoreTrout> I have no intention of bringing up or participating in an argument.

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13:00 <KilgoreTrout> I can debate face to face, but there is no point doing it online.

13:00 <Knight_Dash> So, we can head to EquestrianDiscourse (as I have), or we can talk about something else instead.

13:01 <KilgoreTrout> I suggest we would talk about all the channels we have hear.

13:01 <KilgoreTrout> Which are active?

13:01 <KilgoreTrout> There are a lot of quiet ones around here, i guess.

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13:02 <Knight_Dash> I've gone to EquestrianStudy before. It's really quiet in there.

13:02 <Knight_Dash> I have a few ideas, see, for fanfics. Which hopefully I'll have the willpower to actually write some time. :P

13:02 <PokemonFan> Wel imma stay here, but my teacher is passing out some work

13:03 <Unikitty|Work> This one and #CanterlotHill are most active in PG-13 casual lobby category I think. That other one slightly "nerdier" though as they like to say themselves

13:03 <VinylScratch> Sometimes the best idea is to just write. :P

13:03 <Cepheid> ... That's the third time I've died to a Gasser Tree mass poison.  Solution:  Equip everyone with Poison Resist++++ gear.

13:03 <Knight_Dash> All right, PokemonFan. :)

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13:04 <PokemonFan> I'm doing a crossword puzzle for a grade

13:04 <KilgoreTrout> canterlothill was a wee bit more about the music?

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13:04 <Knight_Dash> I did write the beginning for one, VinylScratch (pretty short beginning, though) but I have an early plot hurdle to overcome before I can get to my other ideas.

13:04 <Knight_Dash> And besides, with Episode 100 coming up, I think it best to wait for that.

13:05 <KilgoreTrout> actually I saw the episode where dr. whooves had a speaking part

13:05 <VinylScratch> Just keep the ol' cogs turning whilst you do!

13:05 <KilgoreTrout> they did a horrible voice acting

13:05 <VinylScratch> KilgoreTrout: They hadn't recognised him as the fandom 'Doctor hooves' at that point

13:06 <VinylScratch> so it hardly counts

13:06 <Knight_Dash> Yeah, I've come up with a few ideas since then. :)

13:06 <KilgoreTrout> the worst was bon bon in the first one with apple bloom. They made her sound like an old lady.

13:06 <KilgoreTrout> *finnish

13:06 <VinylScratch> it was just #BGPony 986678 at that point

13:06 <VinylScratch> or somesuch

13:06 <VinylScratch> I also think the BonBon bad Voicing is an injoke for them at this point, lol

13:06 <KilgoreTrout> Yeah, true. I've seen bon bon going full on agent smith in the babs seed episode

13:07 <PokemonFan> I hope they use the right voice actor for DJ Pon3

13:07 <KilgoreTrout> she isn't the only one, but the mane kind of stands out.

13:07 <VinylScratch> ...They can't use nowacking, and she'd decline it even if they could

13:07 <PokemonFan> Bon Bon: That incredible amazing doll!

13:08 <VinylScratch> she enjoys fandom projects too much to anchor herself with official regulations

13:08 <PokemonFan> bye

13:09 <Knight_Dash> I actually like how DJ-Pon3's been voiceless even in fairly prominent appearances (like RR), but maybe I'm just used to the idea. I can't see myself complaining if they do give her a voice.

13:10 <Knight_Dash> The lack of speaking just seems like part of the character to me at this point.

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13:11 <Knight_Dash> Oops, accidentally navigated away when I meant to open an EQD window in a new tab (I use the chat embed, so this kind of thing happens occasionally... but fortunately not often).

13:11 <VinylScratch> xD

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13:12 <VinylScratch> I'm pretty okay with keeping fandom and canon personalities seperate...it's something that allows me to enjoy everything without gettin' antsy about headcanons being a'sploded. Also because I don't really headcanon significantly, lol.

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13:16 <Knight_Dash> So... Do you consider the "non-speaking" thing canon or headcanon? :P Because it isn't really a headcanon for me, more just slightly liking her lack of dialogue.

13:16 <DataByte> i don't bother with attempting continuality - every fan work is its own pocket in a multiverse xD

13:17 <Knight_Dash> Not that I necessarily think it has any reflection upon how much she talks outside of her on-screen appearances.

13:26 <Cepheid> XD

13:27 <Cepheid> I'm sitting here, and all I can hear is this "Mrraaoiw~!"  "Mew~!"  "Mroiw!?"  "MRAAOIW~!"

13:27 <Cepheid> And the occasional "Will you PLEASE SHUT UP!?" from my mother.  Spitfire's meowing at Tizzy, wanting to play.

13:27 <Cepheid> But Tizzy won't have any of it.

13:27 <Knight_Dash> Aww. :)

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13:34 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

13:34 <Cepheid> Hey Lema.

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13:36 <Knight_Dash> Hello, Thelema. :)

13:36 <Knight_Dash> Just found something via TVTropes.

13:36 <Knight_Dash> http://images.wikia.com/random-ness/images/8/83/My-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-you-know-its-true.gif

13:36 <DARK> hello =)

13:37 <Knight_Dash> Hello, DARK.

13:37 <KilgoreTrout> That was funny

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13:38 <Derpyhut> hello

13:40 <Knight_Dash> Hello, Derpyhut. Do you have any muffins?

13:40 <Derpyhut> yes i do

13:40 * Derpyhut gives muffins to all

13:41 <Cepheid> This... is a bit of a conundrum.

13:41 <Derpyhut> yep

13:41 <Knight_Dash> Now. Going afk.

13:41 <Cepheid> I need to get through this one area, but a FOE blocks the way.  And it's way more powerful me.

13:41 <Derpyhut> bye

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13:41 <ThunderStrike> hi Cephy

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13:43 <Cepheid> Hoi ThunderStrike.

13:44 <ThunderStrike> you know i recently started a game like that one for the first time its so similar but on the 3ds. I think its called Persona Q

13:45 <Cepheid> Yep.

13:45 <Cepheid> It's made by the same dev team.

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13:47 <Cepheid> ... Oh!  I see how to get by that FOE.

13:47 <Cepheid> Heh.  Tricky.

13:50 <Knight_Dash> Back. Oh, I know the Persona series.

13:50 <Knight_Dash> I've played a couple of the games (but never finished them. They weren't mine)

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13:54 <Cepheid> Gods, mapping out this floor is a nightmare.

13:56 <Cepheid> I knew the Claret Hollows was hard, but this is madness.  MADNESS!

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14:09 <Knight_Dash> Oh, it's hoofy! Haven't seen you in a while.

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14:14 <Knight_Dash> You there, are you a follower of the cabbage god?

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14:17 <Twilight_Shimmer> good morning

14:17 <Cepheid> Morning.

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14:34 <Nilak_the_dragoness> No, this is Sparta.

14:34 <Nilak_the_dragoness> A bit belated that response, but oh well

14:35 * Nilak_the_dragoness goes \o/ to \m

14:35 <Cepheid> Heh. :P

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14:36 <Twilight_Shimmer> slow morning

14:36 <Nilak_the_dragoness> It's a beautiful morniiiiing~

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14:40 <mniip> hi

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15:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: RELIVE THE PAST -  Season 3 in a Nutshell  [ http://tinyurl.com/p6lg2uz ]

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15:03 <ThunderStrike> !hug

15:03 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3

15:03 <ThunderStrike> yes

15:03 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around ThunderStrike in a tight embrace

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15:07 <Cepheid> Heh..

15:07 <Cepheid> I just used a Grimoire Stone to abuse the skill system.

15:08 <Cepheid> She loses two levels, but in return for all of her skill points, I can re-invest them.  Using the stone, I don't have to waste:  7 points on AGI up, 7 points on Power Shot, 9 points on Disabling Shot.

15:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: EQD Mascot Report: Day 2 - More Than One?  [ http://tinyurl.com/nut4o9v ]

15:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Morning Discussion #90 [ http://tinyurl.com/kofb466 ]

15:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Season 5 Episode 6 Revealed! - Appleoosa's Most Wanted (MAJOR Synopsis!)  [ http://tinyurl.com/m3ynzqp ]

15:09 <KooK> YO YO YO

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15:10 <Cepheid> Oh bah.  Skills from the stone and skills on the character don't combine.

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15:10 <KooK> yo

15:10 <KooK> yo yo

15:11 <Cepheid> ... Wait, then that'd mean..

15:11 <KooK> yo?

15:12 <Cepheid> Just thinking.

15:13 <KooK> yo?

15:13 <Cepheid> What happens if I take a grimoire stone with AGI Up +7 on it, and combine it with a character that naturally has the skill?  Would it stack and give them the equivalent of AGI Up +17?

15:13 <KooK> yo..?

15:13 <Cepheid> Game stuffs.

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15:14 <Cepheid> Nope.  Doesn't stack.

15:14 <Uber_Sparkle> Oh my

15:15 <Uber_Sparkle> HB?

15:16 <Uber_Sparkle> Man, I missed you guys.

15:16 <Cepheid> And it doesn't combine stat boosting skills either.  Can't do HP Up 2 on stone + HP up 8

15:16 <Cepheid> on character*

15:16 <KooK> I <3 tax season

15:16 <KooK> For the next 2-3 years at least

15:16 <Cepheid> It won't equate to level 10.  Bah.

15:17 <Uber_Sparkle> What has everyone been up to?

15:17 * TimidClef noms on a random pony

15:17 <mniip> so uh

15:18 <mniip> do we know when will the premiere air?

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15:18 <Uber_Sparkle> ...

15:18 <mniip> not day-wise but time-wise

15:18 <Uber_Sparkle> What has anyone been up to?

15:18 <mniip> just playing some world of tanks here

15:18 <VinylScratch> I've been up to enjoying the warm weather. o3o

15:19 <Uber_Sparkle> Very nice

15:19 <Uber_Sparkle> I love tanks too

15:19 <Uber_Sparkle> Not so much the warm weather,  I prefer the cold

15:20 <Knight_Dash> Likewise, Uber_Sparkle.

15:20 <Knight_Dash> The weather thing, that is.

15:20 <VinylScratch> I've had my fill of cold, lol

15:20 <VinylScratch> I'm a summer pon3

15:20 <Uber_Sparkle> I figured

15:20 <Uber_Sparkle> Too much heat hete

15:20 <Uber_Sparkle> Here

15:21 <Uber_Sparkle> 40° celcius

15:23 <Uber_Sparkle> Im out for a wgile

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15:30 <Knight_Dash> Well, I'm going to be going for now. Bye, guys!

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15:30 <KooK> ALL OF THE MATHS HOMEWORK

15:30 <KooK> I remember when fractions were hard...

15:31 <mniip> today

15:31 <KooK> Today?

15:31 <mniip> no wait yesterday

15:31 <KooK> Yesterday?

15:31 <mniip> I had to teach trigonometry to people who had problems with symbolic math

15:32 <KooK> What is symbolic math?

15:33 <KooK> Like, x=3?

15:33 <KooK> if x = 7, then what is x + 3?

15:33 <VinylScratch> I hate maaaaaaths

15:34 * VinylScratch flees to the anti-math chamber

15:36 <mniip> KooK, no

15:36 <mniip> like when you have (x+3)^2 - 2^2

15:36 <mniip> and the formula is x^2-y^2 = (x+y)(x-y)

15:36 <mniip> and they're like "wha, how do you mean x is x+3

15:36 <mniip> "

15:37 <Cepheid> Right, I'm done EOU for now.

15:40 <Thelema5> !s5

15:40 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 11d:00h:20m:17s

15:41 <Thelema5> It's getting so close I can almost taste it!

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15:44 * fyrepony stuffs Thelema5 with muffins

15:44 * DataByte tastes Thelema5

15:44 <fyrepony> here you go

15:44 <DataByte> mmmm

15:45 <DataByte> muffins

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16:02 * DataByte Fall's SkyHigh and becomes a ZeroParadox KooK

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16:03 <ZeroParadox> w0t

16:03 <Pi> wot

16:03 <DataByte> checkmate

16:03 <KooK> I have been pinged

16:03 <SkyHigh> Aaaaaah

16:03 * SkyHigh is falling?

16:04 <DataByte> no, SkyHigh is Fall

16:04 <DataByte> xD

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16:04 <SkyHigh> Oo

16:04 <SkyHigh> Yay

16:04 * SkyHigh hugs Fall

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16:07 * Cepheid goes into powersaving mode.

16:07 * DataByte carefully places a cupcake on Cepheid's nose

16:07 <Pi> Toshiba calls it eco mode

16:07 <Pi> What a stupid name

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16:08 * Cepheid doesn't move.

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16:19 <VinylScratch> It's because there was the whole 'eco friendly' thing a while back

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16:19 <VinylScratch> it was a buzzword that became big to use for environmentally friendly focused concepts, or things that pretended to be as such

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16:20 <Cepheid> I find it interesting how my vision gets when I'm exhausted.

16:20 <Thelema5> Green marketing is still gaining momentum.

16:20 <ClayintheCarpet> I think I'll just sit here and drink tea and watch anime all day.

16:20 <Thelema5> What are you watching, ClayintheCarpet?

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16:21 <ClayintheCarpet> Currently trying to finish HunterxHunter

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16:22 <Cepheid> My vision doesn't blur when I've been up for too long.  Instead, my eyes constantly re-adjust focus.  So it results in a slight pulsating effect along sharp, contrasting edges.

16:22 <DataByte> trippy

16:22 <Cepheid> Aye.

16:22 <ClayintheCarpet> I even think I'll go buy MORE tea.

16:22 <Cepheid> Plus there's also a bit of waviness in my peripheral vision.

16:23 <Cepheid> Ah well, nothing I can do about it.

16:23 <Cepheid> I mean I could go to sleep, but that requires going to sleep.

16:23 <Cepheid> I can't do that.

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16:24 <Thelema5> Pulsating vision seems about right for a pulsating star.

16:24 <Cepheid> Heh. :P

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16:25 <DataByte> *gasp* you're in tune with the magic in the stars!

16:26 *** hearts_the_yoshi is now known as hoofy

16:26 <Cepheid> No, I'm pretty sure I'm just sleep deprived.

16:27 <Cepheid> Though not by much.

16:27 <Cepheid> Just...  Hmm, 2 hours, actually.

16:27 * Pi yawns

16:27 <Pi> I'm a bit tired myself

16:28 <Cepheid> I woke up at 6:45 PM last night.  I should have been asleep at around 10:45 AM, so about an hour and a half to two hours ago.

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16:29 <Unikitty|Work> /nick Unikitty|Away

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16:29 <Unikitty|Away> Woops, random space was sitting on my input apparently

16:29 <Thelema5> :p

16:29 <Pi> SPAAAACEE

16:30 <Fall> I always imagine you flying out the window when you change to that nick.

16:30 <Cepheid> Flying out the window or walking down the wall, defying gravity.

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16:30 <Pi> Eep, boring section to write ahead.

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16:31 <Pi> Ehh, I'll continue it tomorrow

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16:32 <Cloud_Zephyr> nuuu my bitcoins haven't appeared yet

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16:42 <Scope> I was raised by a cup of coffee.

16:43 * Cepheid tips the cup of coffee.

16:43 <Scope> MAMA.  D:

16:43 <Scope> Noooooooooooo

16:43 * Cepheid drinks the other cup of coffee.

16:44 <Scope> Oh good, you drank the drug addict.  I never did like him that much.

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16:44 <VinylScratch> <Scope> I was raised by a cup of coffee. - 'Moulded by it...' and I can't think of a good way to play up Banes quote past that

16:44 <Cepheid> Dru-  *Gets high on drugs.*

16:44 * Cepheid squirms on the floor.

16:44 <Scope> S'what you get.

16:44 <Scope> That's right, stare into oblivion.

16:44 <Scope> Embrace it.

16:45 <Cepheid> ,

16:45 * Cepheid was already sleep deprived!

16:45 <Scope> Feel the power of the Oxi-Clean.

16:45 * Cepheid was already staring into oblivion!

16:45 * Cepheid feels the power of Head-On instead. It was applied directly to his forehead.

16:45 <Scope> brb, mudboggin' in a Borg Cube.

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16:48 <Scope> Bwah, returneth I do.

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16:52 <Vulpor> Hey Scope

16:52 <Scope> Howdeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

16:53 <KooK> Crud, I just watched The Frozen Ground, I'm not sure if I can watch another movie today that is near that good.

16:53 <Thelema5> I've never heard of that film, KooK.  What's is about?

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16:54 <KooK> Thelema5 - It's a 'based on a true story,' movie of a serial killer.

16:54 <KooK> Probably not your cup of tea :P

16:55 <Thelema5> Okay, thanks for the warning.  XD

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16:57 <Cephy-ZZZzzz> Not going to bed yet, just changing my name for when I do inevitably fall asleep.

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16:58 <LunaticHell> aw yes, goooooood morning, equestria

16:59 <LunaticHell> it is I, the Lunatic, I make people happy. =)

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16:59 <Cephy-ZZZzzz> Morning.

17:00 <LunaticHell> I was just at the store and was to my mom's gf "need anything? cigaretts?" and when I returned she was like "want me to give you money for that?" then I showed her a steam card and she was like "gasp, for me?" and was happy as a small puppy.

17:01 <LunaticHell> It is gud to be me.

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17:01 <Thelema5> Hello, LunaticHell.

17:01 <LunaticHell> Hi Thela

17:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: RELIVE THE PAST -  Season 3 in a Nutshell  [ http://tinyurl.com/p6lg2uz ]

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17:06 <KooK> I just went into the pets section of craigslist...

17:06 <KooK> http://desmoines.craigslist.org/pet/4946930567.html

17:07 <Flitter> KooK, thats awesome XD

17:07 <KooK> DUDE

17:07 <KooK> http://desmoines.craigslist.org/pet/4946605115.html

17:07 <KooK> Found it

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17:07 <Flitter> ahahahhahahahah

17:08 <Flitter> now thats a successful troll

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17:08 <KooK> Right?

17:08 <KooK> I didn't see that one further down

17:09 <KooK> Go figure somebody on the south side would post up a picture of them eating a chicken.

17:10 <Flitter> its perfect XD

17:10 <KooK> HAH!  It says "She's a spoiled Diva"

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17:13 <jarosko> hi

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17:16 <jarosko> :)

17:16 <DataByte> KooK, that's horrible!

17:17 <KooK> DataByte - no, that's amazing

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17:31 <Thelema5> Kook, someone should tell that guy that he shouldn't play with his food.

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17:35 <DataByte> and here i am, concerned for the guy who can't find his pet

17:35 <DataByte> you two are horrible

17:37 <Thelema5> Sorry, DataByte.  I've raised, slaughtered, and regularly consume chicken.  I can't really think of them as pets... they're mean, cannibalistic, dumb little dinosaurs.

17:38 <DataByte> i don't offer an alternate view for them :P

17:38 <Dash> DataByte, it may be horible, but i love it XD

17:38 <DataByte> i was thinking of whoever posted xD

17:38 <Thelema5> :P

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17:39 <DataByte> some people really do get attached to the strangest things

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17:40 <ZeroParadox> Verandure - 3 -~

17:40 * ZeroParadox runs in slow mo for a hug

17:41 * DataByte attaches himself to ZeroParadox

17:41 <ZeroParadox> ew

17:42 <DataByte> a hug, zero,  hahahaha

17:42 <ZeroParadox> ew

17:42 * DataByte applies snuggles

17:42 * ZeroParadox applies self destruct sequence

17:42 <DataByte> hm..

17:43 <DataByte> there's always a little red wire you have to cut to stop those..

17:43 * Thelema5 dives under the his desk

17:43 * DataByte tickles ZeroParadox, looking for the access panel

17:43 * ZeroParadox explodes faster

17:43 <DataByte> weeee!

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17:44 <DataByte> *sigh*

17:45 <DataByte> trying to make a search syntax that is easy enough for a lazy typer to do is tough

17:46 <DataByte> i've been drafting out ideas and parameters, and now i'm at 5 pages.. and little to show for it

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17:49 <DataByte> i think i'll make it really strict to at least get something working, then add more intelligence later

17:50 <screenaholic> !link scott pilgrim

17:50 <DerpyBot> https://www.derpibooru.org/748545?scope=scpe90868877b794ef4f012be640a6b1bff9b275e150

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17:51 <DataByte> when watching that second time though, i was just thinking about poor sunset in the background

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17:52 <VinylScratch> Watching RR?

17:52 <DataByte> yep

17:52 <VinylScratch> Yeah, it's a good little film for what it is

17:53 <VinylScratch> Sure, it's still humans, blahblahblah, but they pulled a great little thing from it and I applaud the effort.

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17:57 <KooK> I haven't looked at math in 2 weeks, I forget how to do it

18:02 <DataByte> you say that kook.. and somehow i translated math to meth

18:03 <KooK> Even though I'm in the correct region for that, no thanks.

18:03 <DataByte> i share that sentiment

18:05 <KooK> I used to work in a field where it was actually a pretty popular drug to do.

18:06 <KooK> Didn't mind being around some of the people, others were a little much...

18:06 <Thelema5> What field is that?  Long haul trucking?

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18:06 <KooK> Mechanic

18:07 <Thelema5> Oh... I wouldn''t have guessed that mechanics are an at-risk population.

18:07 <Thelema5> :p

18:07 <KooK> Thelema5: Ever been on an airplane?

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18:08 <Verandure> The Tv at my work has been taking about the Germany crash for three hours, now.

18:08 <Verandure> Dang CNN

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18:11 <Thelema5> I have only ever been on a tiny single-engine two-seater plane, KooK... and that was an a whim.  I'm actually terrified of heights, and don't like to travel- so no, never really been on one.

18:11 <BatFruitPony> Oh I have remembered a story about pretty famous aviation engineer, who was told by a fortune teller that he will "fall off the plane" which in his native language was the same meaning as "fall out of the plane"; he never flew any planes and worked on improving aviation safety; one day he fell off the wing of the plane he inspected in the hangar, he laughed all day that day and booked a flight the very next day

18:11 *** Unikitty|Away is now known as Unixkitty

18:11 <Thelema5> Heh.

18:12 <KooK> Thelema5: Those people who work on those pretty big airplanes up in the sky?  Yeah, you'll find that there are a fair amount on drugs like meth.

18:12 <KooK> Not all, but it's not exactly scarce.

18:13 * Unixkitty flops on Fall, most certainly not having come through a window.

18:13 <SkyHigh> I ain't on no drugs!

18:13 <KooK> One of the coolest guys I used to deal with basically had no teeth left.

18:13 * Fall shakes a little

18:14 <KooK> Thelema5 - If you're under 250lbs, you can come flying with me :P

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18:15 <Verandure> My captain also has no teeth.

18:15 <BatFruitPony> Have you had any therapy about that fear of height Thelema5 ?

18:15 <KooK> Dude, a fear of heights is almost normal...

18:16 <Unixkitty> Almost?

18:16 <BatFruitPony> Almost.

18:16 <KooK> Almost

18:16 <Thelema5> Actually, my case is pretty severe... I have difficulty even navigating stairwells.

18:16 * Unixkitty blinks

18:16 <BatFruitPony> I get a kick out of walking on the rails of the bridge

18:17 <KooK> As in there are a lot of people with a fear of heights, it's nothing that needs to be treated in most situations.

18:17 <BatFruitPony> When it is an extreme fear of heights, it may be troublesome

18:17 <BatFruitPony> Any phobia can

18:17 <Unixkitty> !s5

18:17 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 10d:21h:43m:21s

18:18 <Thelema5> Exactly, BatFruitPony.  There have been instances in my life where I've avoided certain situations or opportunities because of my phobia.

18:18 <Thelema5> It's more anxiety and vertigo than a phobia, actually.

18:18 <KooK> I used to not be able to climb halfway up a ladder, not even joking.  Then I start rock climbing

18:18 <KooK> :P

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18:19 <Thelema5> Ah ha ha

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18:19 <BatFruitPony> I climb too

18:19 <KooK> I wanted to climb, after awhile you just get used to it.

18:19 <BatFruitPony> But I had only one actual rock climb

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18:20 <KooK> Bat - Same here actually, believe it or not the vast mountains of Iowa don't have much to offer.

18:20 <BatFruitPony> And during that climb one hook fell down, that was the moment when I realised how high I actually was

18:20 <BatFruitPony> If I'd fall from that hight I'd be dead or seriously injured

18:20 <BatFruitPony> height*

18:21 <BatFruitPony> But I forgot about it pretty fast

18:21 * Unixkitty opens her long-awaited special package, and sees the most important item in it... the wrapping. Bubble wrapping. It would appear she has something to busy herself with tonight.

18:21 <BatFruitPony> XD

18:21 <KooK> I assume you were lead climbing?

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18:22 <Thelema5> Maybe I should try that.  I do live in an area known for it's rock-climbing.  For instance, my workplace is on this massive rock formation: http://mtnscenicbyway.org/images/about-the-ridge-gardiner-797x500.jpg

18:22 <BatFruitPony> I am not familiar with english terms, but I was tethered to a rope and a secondary failsafe line too

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18:23 <jarosko> hi

18:23 <Thelema5> Hello, jarosko

18:23 <Thelema5> Welcome to a chat.

18:23 <jarosko> whats up

18:24 <Thelema5> The direction in oppostition to the prevailing pull of gravity.

18:24 <jarosko> lol nice

18:24 <BatFruitPony> It was quite a thrill to realise that the last hook wasn't properly seated in a crack and fell out when my fingers slipped, so I fell twice the distance I was supposed to fall normally

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18:24 <Thelema5> That's terrifying.

18:24 <BatFruitPony> Luckily I managed to brace against the wall with my feet in time

18:25 <Thelema5> Are you new around here, jarosko?

18:25 <jarosko> yes

18:25 <Thelema5> Awesome!

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18:25 <jarosko> ya how long have u been on

18:25 <BatFruitPony> Funny that I wasn't screaming as I fell, the girl that was on a parallel line did though XD

18:26 <Thelema5> It's a pleasure meeting you.  Are you a fan of the candy colored cartoon magical miniature horse show?

18:26 <Thelema5> jarosko, I'm here pretty frequently.

18:26 <jarosko> yes lol but only mlpfim the oldr gens r scary

18:26 <Thelema5> I would have screamed like a young child.

18:27 <Thelema5> I don't know, jarosko.  G1 had its moments, too.

18:27 <Thelema5> But, FiM is clearly the best of the batch!

18:27 <jarosko> :p i agree

18:28 <Thelema5> Who is your favorite pony?

18:29 <jarosko> one can not just chuse a favret pony but out of the bunch it is battle between pinky and flutter

18:29 <Gigabit> Huh?

18:29 <Thelema5> Both are fine ponies, some of the very best!  I have a special appreciation of them both.

18:29 <jarosko> :)

18:30 <Thelema5> Are you getting excited for season 5?

18:30 <jarosko> h e dubble hocky sticks ya

18:30 <KooK> Season 5 of what?

18:30 <jarosko> mlp

18:30 <KooK> ew

18:30 <KooK> bronies...

18:30 <DataByte> my little primate

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18:31 <jarosko> lol

18:31 <Unixkitty> My little biped, my little biped. Aah ah aaah aaaah

18:31 <KooK> Wait, none of you are bronies, right?

18:32 <DataByte> no

18:32 <DataByte> i'm a pony

18:32 <Unixkitty> What's a brony?

18:32 <Thelema5> What's a brony?

18:32 <KooK> So, you're furries?

18:32 <Unixkitty> Sounds nerdy

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18:32 <Thelema5> I heard those guys do unspeakable things.

18:32 <DataByte> and i'm more of a geek than a nerd

18:32 <jarosko> i am a brony

18:32 <Unixkitty> I heard one of them politics

18:32 <KooK> Gross

18:32 <DataByte> ew

18:32 <Unixkitty> I think he also just entered

18:32 <jarosko> i dont do that unspeekable thing

18:33 <BatFruitPony> Princess-Politics is here, yes

18:33 <jarosko> that i agree is gross

18:33 <KooK> But that's what a brony is

18:33 <jarosko> no brony is a fan of the show mlp

18:34 <KooK> I doubt it

18:34 <DataByte> https://mlpforums.com/uploads/post_images/img-3519207-1-20120505175323Y.png

18:34 <jarosko> ok what ever :P

18:34 <Unixkitty> What's mlp?

18:34 <Thelema5> jarosko, we're just playing around.

18:35 <Thelema5> Most of us are certified, card carrying bronies

18:35 <jarosko> ok loli was scared i enterd a hate thing rather than a chat

18:35 <Thelema5> :p

18:35 <Unixkitty> haha

18:35 <DataByte> Thelema5: you have a card?

18:36 <DataByte> i know some ponies that do carry cards, why i ask xD

18:36 <Thelema5> I don't literally carry a card.

18:36 <jarosko> i have gameing cards dose that count

18:36 <DataByte> heh xD

18:36 <Thelema5> Sure does!

18:36 <DataByte> i have a backpack FULL of mlp cards, plus another binder that won't fit

18:36 *** Princess-QRS is now known as Student-QRS

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18:37 *** hoofy is now known as vampa

18:37 <DataByte> i'm getting out of the ccg, though.. it's too expensive to keep up with

18:37 <Thelema5> I've never played the CCG, does it play anything like M:TG?

18:37 <DataByte> a bit, i think

18:37 <DinkyDoo> DataByte:

18:37 * DinkyDoo glomps DataByte

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18:38 <jarosko> i dont have enuf card i am like 5 away from having a full deck

18:38 <someguy> jnjioho

18:38 <Student-QRS> moooooods

18:38 * DataByte tickles DinkyDoo with a muffin

18:38 <someguy> hackes

18:38 <Thelema5> Someguy, english is the prefered language here.

18:38 <DataByte> silly bubble

18:38 <someguy> i know

18:38 <DinkyDoo> Muffin?!!

18:38 <jarosko> i suck at spelling

18:38 <someguy> poooop

18:39 <Bubble-Berry> Huh?

18:39 <Bubble-Berry> What aboot me?

18:39 <jarosko> i like pie

18:39 <DataByte> not you, muffin

18:39 <DinkyDoo> He was referring to me bubble

18:39 <someguy> i like trains

18:39 <jarosko> lol

18:39 <Bubble-Berry> Oh.

18:39 *** DinkyDoo is now known as bubbyMuffin

18:39 <Unixkitty> Looks like productive chatting, doesn't it

18:39 <DataByte> you're berry, he's muffin, you're both bubbles xD

18:39 <someguy> nice

18:39 <jarosko> where do trains come from

18:39 *** bubbyMuffin is now known as BubbleMuffin

18:39 <someguy> inside of me

18:40 <DataByte> bubbles!

18:40 <jarosko> u dont even like mlp someguy

18:40 <Thelema5> Well jarosko, when two trains love one another very much...

18:40 <Gigabit> Someguy and jarosko are the same

18:40 <BubbleMuffin> See Bubble-Berry? I don't use this Nick becouse it gets cunfusing

18:40 <jarosko> lol

18:40 <DataByte> Thelema5: hahahaha

18:40 <Bubble-Berry> Ah.

18:40 <BatFruitPony> Same IP mask. Different clients

18:40 <someguy> you dont know that :)

18:40 *** someguy was kicked by Unixkitty ()

18:40 <Student-QRS> Yay!

18:40 <jarosko> no it is a frend

18:40 <Student-QRS> It's happening!

18:40 <BubbleMuffin> Thelema5 is talking?

18:40 <Gigabit> Don't matter. I have 2 clients going now same ip

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18:40 <someguy> hi

18:40 <vampa> uh

18:40 <BubbleMuffin> Why can't I see him?

18:40 <Unixkitty> We don't like clones here.

18:40 <DataByte> do refrain from trolling chat, please

18:40 <Gigabit> If I boot my server I will have 3 clients 1 IP.

18:40 <Student-QRS> http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/161/3/3/it_s_happening_by_sketchy_pony-d68it23.png

18:40 <someguy> ok

18:41 <jarosko> ty gansder

18:41 <BatFruitPony> You will gain much more from just chatting in here than getting yourself banned

18:41 <BubbleMuffin> Why was someguy kicked?

18:41 <someguy> ribson

18:41 <Student-QRS> 'cause he's spamming

18:41 <Student-QRS> probably

18:41 <someguy> because im awesome

18:41 <Unixkitty> Because it's a clone, and bad trolling attempt.

18:41 <BubbleMuffin> Ah ok carry on everypony

18:41 <jarosko> ya he dose not even like the show

18:41 <someguy> my friends found me this site

18:41 <TimidClef> Uh. It's you :p

18:41 <BubbleMuffin> Hey some guy type !moo

18:41 <Gigabit> Wow.. Okay ignore time. This spelling is to much..

18:42 <someguy> so its not really a troll

18:42 <jarosko> yup

18:42 <someguy> moo

18:42 *** BubbleMuffin is now known as LostThoughts

18:42 <LostThoughts> !moo

18:42 <DerpyBot> Who are you calling a cow?!

18:42 <LostThoughts> Me

18:42 *** LostThoughts was kicked by DerpyBot (To the MOO!)

18:42 <someguy> mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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18:42 *** JandalAdjiel is now known as Jandal|ZZZZ

18:42 <Unixkitty> !moon someguy

18:42 <DerpyBot> Grab my tail, someguy!

18:42 <Unixkitty> !moon jarosko

18:42 <DerpyBot> Grab my tail, jarosko!

18:42 *** someguy was kicked by DerpyBot (To the moon!)

18:42 *** jarosko was kicked by DerpyBot (To the moon!)

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18:42 <someguy> g

18:42 <someguy> g

18:42 <someguy> g

18:42 <someguy> g

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18:42 <someguy> g

18:42 <someguy> g

18:42 <someguy> g

18:42 <someguy> g

18:42 *** DerpyBot sets mode: +b *!*@Pony-pc4coj.k12.wi.us

18:42 *** someguy was kicked by DerpyBot (I only like spam when it comes with my muffins.)

18:42 <Student-QRS> lordy

18:42 <Unixkitty> gg

18:42 <LostThoughts> Some guy stopit!

18:42 <Thelema5> O.o

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18:43 <Fall> Almost kickbanned SomeFrenchBrony there :3

18:43 <Thelema5> Ah ha ha ha

18:43 <Bubble-Berry> So... anyways...

18:43 <SomeFrenchBrony> Well then x)

18:43 <Unixkitty> And you would do that... why?

18:43 * Student-QRS eats Bubble-Berry

18:43 <LostThoughts> Yes bubble?

18:43 <Fall> Tab complete.

18:43 <Thelema5> :p

18:43 * Bubble-Berry shru- wait who are you talking to

18:43 * Bubble-Berry baps Student-QRS

18:43 <Unixkitty> That's not what I actually asked, but whatever.

18:43 * Student-QRS burps

18:44 * DataByte applauds

18:45 <LostThoughts> So anything happen in the fandom latly?

18:45 <Bubble-Berry> We're all just sitting around waiting for S5

18:45 <Bubble-Berry> And I have to wait even long for it to get on netflix.

18:46 * Bubble-Berry rolls around and groans

18:46 * Student-QRS groans too

18:46 * Student-QRS is very roomy

18:46 <Unixkitty> That is quite a bit of /me's

18:46 <LostThoughts> Aww bubble no you don't silly

18:46 *** SkyHigh is now known as SkyHighAway

18:47 <Bubble-Berry> Isn't there a delay between the broadcast of the episode and the netflix rele- wait are you talkin' to me?

18:48 <LostThoughts> You have a pc you can get the episodes a few days after while you wait for it to get put up on Netflix

18:48 <LostThoughts> Sorry bubble I meant DataByte

18:48 <LostThoughts> Wait never mind.

18:48 <KooK> What are you even talking about?

18:48 <DataByte> i have no idea

18:48 * Schism groans. "Hydro power is out all across King street."

18:49 <Thelema5> All hail discordia!

18:49 * LostThoughts is not sure if I'm allowed to talk about pirate things and so clams up until Unixkitty gives the go ahead

18:49 <KooK> I used to wonder what calculus could be

18:49 <KooK> until you all shared its hell with me

18:49 <Bubble-Berry> Ach! I'm so confused

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18:50 <Unixkitty> Pirate things? Illegal things aren't a very nice topic, and if you're unsure about something, it's best to avoid it altogether in here.

18:50 <LostThoughts> Ok thx

18:50 <KooK> Speaking of illegal

18:50 <Student-QRS> WEll we do have a !list function here.

18:51 <Student-QRS> !list

18:51 <Student-QRS> oops that uh, was it /list?

18:51 <KooK> NSFW : https://www.dropbox.com/s/hqzff8czfv3ol9n/11021077_922494094448213_2640944837375332226_n.jpg?dl=0

18:51 <Student-QRS> No it was !list and my client just blows

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18:52 *** DerpyBot sets mode: -b *!*@Pony-pc4coj.k12.wi.us

18:53 <KooK> The room falls silent, my work here is done.

18:53 *** Unixkitty sets mode: +b *!*@Pony-pc4coj.k12.wi.us

18:53 *** DerpyBot sets mode: -b *!*@Pony-pc4coj.k12.wi.us

18:53 <KooK> what is -b and +b?

18:53 <Student-QRS> unban, ban

18:54 <LostThoughts> Ban and unban

18:54 <Unixkitty> Magic!

18:54 <KooK> Magicです

18:54 <Thelema5> The !list function has never worked for me.

18:55 <LostThoughts> Aww my website for ponys is gone :(

18:55 <Thelema5> Maybe it'll be back up with season 5?

18:55 <KooK> I love that picture

18:56 <KooK> Thelema5 - https://www.dropbox.com/s/s47fg3gho1ebc34/IMG_20150226_191046_152.jpg?dl=0

18:56 <KooK> Take it in, this is what I do every single freaking day.

18:56 <LostThoughts> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/z7YDuBxK/IMG_2911.JPG

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18:59 <Thelema5> Math baffles me.

18:59 <Thelema5> I'll sk my daughter to translate for me.

18:59 <Thelema5> *ask

18:59 <Thelema5> :p

19:00 <KooK> Thelema5 - if your daughter can translate that, she's well above a calculus 3 level

19:00 <KooK> Those are Calculus proofs

19:00 *** SomeFrenchBrony is now known as SomeFrenchAFK

19:00 <KooK> It took 5 chalk boards to finish the one problem

19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Short Animation: Bill Turns Dipper into a Pony / Gilda's Party of One  [ http://tinyurl.com/o9ahozg ]

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19:04 <Thelema5> Kook, I'm not sure what courses she's completed, but she mentioned how much she enjoyed her numbers theory class.

19:05 <KooK> She's sick...

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19:05 <KooK> She is not right man

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19:06 <Thelema5> :p

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19:10 <Thelema5> I'm trying not to laugh as I'm putting this contract together- this client's name is Yanky Rizer.

19:10 <Thelema5> How unfortunate.

19:10 <Unixkitty> !seen Snapai

19:10 <DerpyBot> Unixkitty: The last time I saw Snapai was 2015-03-22 05:34:41 UTC

19:11 <Ether> Ahoy ya'll.

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19:12 <Thelema5> Hello, Ether!

19:12 <Thelema5> !seen Kalastrear

19:12 <DerpyBot> Thelema5: The last time I saw Kalastrear was 2015-03-02 05:14:18 UTC

19:13 <Unixkitty> !seen Kalastraer

19:13 <DerpyBot> Unixkitty: The last time I saw Kalastraer was 2015-03-24 00:13:52 UTC

19:13 *** Dash is now known as Black_Wing

19:13 *** Black_Wing is now known as Dash

19:13 <LostThoughts> !me flip

19:14 <LostThoughts> Fail!

19:14 <LostThoughts> !s5

19:14 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 10d:20h:46m:57s

19:14 <VinylScratch> Indeed it does

19:14 <Thelema5> Ten day countdown has begun!

19:14 <Unixkitty> It's already airing. In the future.

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19:14 <LunaticHell> kitty!

19:14 * LunaticHell snuggles a kitten

19:15 <KooK> A cat?  Where?

19:15 <KooK> https://www.dropbox.com/s/g5vfgpmekq55l51/Chillyasabean.jpg?dl=0

19:15 * Thelema5 shrinks down to the size of a plank-length and falls through spacetime to watch it

19:15 <LunaticHell> oh hi VinylScratch *you know the drill: hugging is happeningü

19:15 <VinylScratch> The huggening!

19:16 <LunaticHell> Magic: The Huggening

19:16 *** FN_away is now known as FruitNibbler

19:16 <LunaticHell> Today I have had an intresting discussion with twitter people

19:17 <LunaticHell> basically they were throwing poop at me, so what did I do?

19:17 <Unixkitty> Cry and run away to take a shower?

19:17 *** hearts_the_Yoshi is now known as vampa

19:18 <Ether> LunaticHell: You ignore them.

19:18 <LunaticHell> Throw poop back? Oh no, not me, I never lost control~ You're face to face, with a man who sold the world~

19:19 <LostThoughts> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5aMovmod/IMG_2907.JPG

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19:19 <Thelema5> silly monkeys and their excremental projections.

19:19 <LostThoughts> !stats

19:19 <Unixkitty> http://stats.unixkitty.net/EquestriaDaily/

19:19 <LunaticHell> After it ceased to be entertaining I turned and left.

19:19 <ryaxnb> my itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot pony

19:19 <ryaxnb> /bikini

19:19 <LunaticHell> I was waiting for the doctor's appointment, so I was plenty bored.

19:20 <Thelema5> So what did you do?

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19:21 <LostThoughts> Stat page didn't pop up

19:23 <Thelema5> LostThoughts, did you click the link?

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19:31 * Thelema5 makes monkey sounds and throws chocolate muffins at everypony

19:32 * Ether takes a muffin to the barrel and flops over, then eats said muffin

19:32 * Schism boops Thelema5 with a chocolate-chip pancake.

19:33 * Thelema5 squees

19:33 <Schism> Let us not forget: http://jittery-the-dragon.deviantart.com/art/How-to-confuse-a-pony-1-418496196

19:33 <Nilak_the_dragoness> A chocolate muffin is most welcome

19:35 <Nilak_the_dragoness> I think putting a pancake on anyone's head would be confusing

19:38 <Schism> Hehe.  http://www.nerdragecomic.com/index.php?date=2015-02-20

19:41 <LostThoughts> !s3

19:41 <DerpyBot> Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

19:43 *** mniip is now known as \m

19:44 <Thelema5> !s0

19:45 <Thelema5> Worth a shot.

19:45 <Schism> !s6

19:45 <DerpyBot> I need 1.21 gigamuffins to find that out for you.

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19:47 <hawthornbunny> But that means I need to buy more Granny Smiths to bake more muffins

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19:48 <Schism> And then a couple of muffin factories.

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19:48 <hawthornbunny> "Every creature in Equestria adores your muffins."

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19:50 <Schism> "Your muffins have achieved sentience."

19:50 <hawthornbunny> XD

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19:52 <hawthornbunny> CleverDerpy did actually make a Muffin Clicker game, but you can only get one muffin at a time and Derpy just eats them anyway

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19:59 * Thelema5 just managed to stab himself with a staple

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20:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Why is This Song So Catchy? Sunshine Sunshine  [ http://tinyurl.com/ov45qsx ]

20:04 *** Syrena|Asleep is now known as Syrena

20:06 *** \m is now known as mniip

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20:09 <Nilak_the_dragoness> !s1

20:09 <DerpyBot> Seasons come and go... say, do you have muffins? :3

20:09 <Nilak_the_dragoness> !muffins

20:09 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3

20:09 <Nilak_the_dragoness> No

20:09 * DerpyBot walks away with a drooping tail

20:09 <Nilak_the_dragoness> Wow, that made me feel bad

20:09 <Nilak_the_dragoness> !muffins

20:09 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3

20:09 <Nilak_the_dragoness> Yes

20:09 <DerpyBot> Thank you!!

20:09 * DerpyBot glomps Nilak_the_dragoness

20:10 <Nilak_the_dragoness> There, made it up to her

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20:12 <LunaticHell> How to see that Seth likes Trixie? The default 404 error message reads "TRIXIE STOLE THIS PAGE. 40404040404 ABORT " oh...huh

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20:16 <LunaticHell> hahahahahaha

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20:16 <LunaticHell> Oh jeeez I did REALLY not think I would find something like that.

20:16 <LunaticHell> Prizeless.

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20:24 <CleverDerpy> I heard my name

20:24 <CleverDerpy> hiya~

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20:27 * Thelema5 pew pews a pone

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20:30 * CleverDerpy fake dies cutely

20:31 * hawthornbunny loots CleverDerpy's fake corpse and obtains a number of fake muffins.

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20:32 * CleverDerpy gets up and offers a real muffin to hawthornbunny

20:32 <LunaticHell> CleverDerpy: derpy!

20:32 * LunaticHell hugs the CleverDerpy

20:33 <Unixkitty> A real muffin? Over the internet?

20:33 <LunaticHell> CleverDerpy: I found JUST the thing for you.

20:33 * CleverDerpy hugs back and purrs

20:33 * Unixkitty hopes it's 2015 already and technology would allow for that.

20:33 *** Unixkitty is now known as Unikitty|Away

20:33 <LunaticHell> CleverDerpy: I was like "I wonder if there are songs with MLP/Nirvana", then I found this gem

20:33 <CleverDerpy> oh unix, so silly~

20:33 <LunaticHell> !link https://youtu.be/T0vfRaW8-eU

20:33 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

20:33 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Dumb-MLP FIM-Nirvana parody

20:33 <LunaticHell> CleverDerpy: It's a derpy song ;)

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20:34 * hawthornbunny yays and pounces a muffin.

20:34 * CleverDerpy claps her hooves excitedly

20:35 <CleverDerpy> thanks, i'll save it for later

20:35 * CleverDerpy stuffs the video in her mailbag

20:35 <aqualycool22> Got anything for me?

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20:36 * CleverDerpy licks aqualycool22's cheek and offers a muffin "always~"

20:36 * aqualycool22 Licks Derpy's nose.

20:36 * aqualycool22 Noms.

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20:53 * Heartbreak stuffs a muffin in DataByte's mouth.

20:53 <DataByte> hehehe, "data" is a unisex name :P

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20:57 <Vulpor> Wassup everyone?

20:57 <DataByte> weather

20:57 <Vulpor> Hiya Databyte

20:58 <DataByte> hiyou

20:58 <Vulpor> Yeah Spring is finnally here

20:58 <DataByte> ./' winter wrap up, winter wrap up ./'

20:58 <Thelema5> It's still pretty chilly here.

20:58 <Vulpor> I been trying to decide on wheather or not to get Dragon Ball Xenoverse

20:59 *** SkyHigh is now known as SkyHighAway

20:59 <Vulpor> Or Borderlands the Handsome Collection

20:59 <Vulpor> I been thinking on Borderlands because I enjoy Destiny

21:00 <Vulpor> But Dragon Ball Xeno seems to be the final word on DBZ games

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21:01 <Thelema5> I'm heading home.  Bye, everypony!

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21:04 <ArcherSlamBam> Well, got a good announcement to make, as far as my YouTube Channel goes.

21:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Overmare Studios Posts Pony Based Weaponry for Fallout Equestria Game  [ http://tinyurl.com/koxdx4p ]

21:05 <ArcherSlamBam> Starting April 4th, I'll be doing a short recap video with my thoughts on the new MLP episodes with each and every week. :D

21:06 <Tirek> Along with dozens of other pony commentators.

21:06 <Vulpor> ArcherSlamBam, please gimme your youtube link

21:06 <ArcherSlamBam> Yeah, but I figured I'd throw my hat into the ring. Been on YouTube for almost a year because of MLP, only makes sense.

21:07 <Vulpor> I would be honored to subscribe

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21:07 <CleverDerpy> can I has a hug?

21:07 <ArcherSlamBam> https://www.youtube.com/user/ArchersSlamBAM

21:08 <Tirek> Hugs are strictly prohibited.

21:08 * Vulpor hugs CleverDerpy

21:08 <Tirek> You're fired.

21:08 * CleverDerpy hugs back and purrs

21:08 <CleverDerpy> but I don't even work here

21:08 * Nilak_the_dragoness goes against the prohibition and hugs anyway.

21:08 * OctaveSymphony hugs Tirek

21:08 <Fall> They're strictly prohibited, but we're powerless to prevent them.

21:08 <Vulpor> You doing ok CleverDerpy?

21:08 <CleverDerpy> yep~ I just like hugs, warm~

21:09 <Nilak_the_dragoness> I feel ya, hugs are awesome

21:09 <ArcherSlamBam> Amen. :D

21:09 <Vulpor> Doh! Archer I already subbed lol

21:09 <CleverDerpy> Tirek is upset because he's never gotten a real good hug

21:09 <Nilak_the_dragoness> Subscribe twice!

21:09 <CleverDerpy> you need the snuggly stuff~

21:10 <Vulpor> I shall look forward to your commentary

21:10 <Nilak_the_dragoness> Subsnerb!

21:10 <Vulpor> Also who is Markpieler?

21:10 <Vulpor> I heard he was ill

21:10 <CleverDerpy> I think he's a youtuber

21:10 <CleverDerpy> i dunno much myself

21:10 <Vulpor> As is Jim bucking Sterling son

21:11 <Vulpor> But Jim is getting better

21:11 <ArcherSlamBam> Vulpor: He's one of YouTube's most well-known Let's Players, possibly second only to PewDiePie. He was admitted to the hospital because of tissue damage in his intestines.

21:11 <CleverDerpy> ouch

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21:12 <CleverDerpy> well, i wish him the best in the hospital, it's not fun being sick...

21:12 <Vulpor> Hope he gets better

21:12 <CleverDerpy> i just got over a horrible allergy attack

21:12 <CleverDerpy> it wasn't fun

21:12 <Vulpor> I had some alergy problems myself CleverDerpy

21:12 <ArcherSlamBam> Never is: on the very same day I heard about it, my half-brother was also sent to the ER due to an appendicitis.

21:12 <CleverDerpy> it's the spring pollen

21:12 <Vulpor> I am doing better myself

21:13 <CleverDerpy> ouch

21:13 <CleverDerpy> i hope your bro is ok, i'll send him flowers and a muffin~

21:13 <Vulpor> Hope he is ok ArcherSlamBam

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21:13 <CleverDerpy> that's good Vulpor

21:14 <ArcherSlamBam> I haven't heard any updates, but he should be fine.

21:14 <CleverDerpy> sometimes no news is good news, if they don't call you back, he's portably just resting from treatment and everything's fine~

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21:17 <ArcherSlamBam> Of course, he'll be alright. :)

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21:29 * VinylScratch ambles into the chat wearing a cone on her head. <]8{

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21:34 <CleverDerpy> hiya VinylScratch, nice cone~

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21:34 <ArcherSlamBam> VinylScratch: What's with the cone?

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21:40 * VinylScratch noms on CleverDerpy's brains. o3o

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21:42 <ArcherSlamBam> Also, I got a (semi) high-profile request. :)

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21:52 <CleverDerpy> no, we don't do that...

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21:55 * CleverDerpy scrunchymuzzles and boops back

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22:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1479 - Most Dependable Mailmare!  [ http://tinyurl.com/pkyhop6 ]

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22:08 <TigerStar> :l

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22:10 <NoPony-Special> Heyo.

22:10 <SpikeyWikey> Hello

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22:11 <SpikeyWikey> umm what yall talkin bout

22:11 <NoPony-Special> Oh, y'know. Things.

22:12 <SpikeyWikey> does anyone know what the topic is.

22:13 <SpikeyWikey> :|

22:13 <NoPony-Special> Pretty sure it's "Stuff".

22:13 <SpikeyWikey> Sorry, I don't know what 'stuff' is.

22:13 <ArcherSlamBam> I've thrown my hat into the Pony Commentator ring.

22:14 <SpikeyWikey> How do you do that.

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22:15 <ArcherSlamBam> Through YouTube. I'm already running a review show, so doing an extra video every Saturday shouldn't be too hard.

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22:17 <ArcherSlamBam> LightDashie! :D

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22:17 <LightDash> hi

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22:24 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony!

22:24 <NoPony-Special> Heyo.

22:24 <Thelema5> What's new?

22:24 <NoPony-Special> Hum.

22:25 <Verandure> A whole lotta nothin'.

22:25 <NoPony-Special> Yup.

22:25 <Thelema5> Yeeehaw!

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22:26 <Verandure> I find that offensive to see saws everywhere.

22:27 * Thelema5 tee hees

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22:34 <NoPony-Special> Oh look, a VinylScratch.

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22:35 <mniip> who dared to scratch a vinyl

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22:36 <Princess-Luna> WE do!

22:36 <Thelema5> wicky wicky wicky

22:37 <Thelema5> !link diamond tiara filly

22:37 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/722408

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22:56 <Tirek> I am return.

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23:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comic:  Royal Flu #6 / Twists & Turns #18 / Adapting to Night #8 /  Am I Your Waifu?  [ http://tinyurl.com/qzuqs5h ]

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23:20 <Kiyiko> 1000 kB = 1 MB

23:20 <Tirek> Nope.

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23:20 <Tirek> 1024 kB = 1MB

23:22 <Kiyiko> na

23:22 <Kiyiko> Look up ISO/IEC 80000-13:2008

23:22 <Kiyiko> That has all the technical definitions

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23:26 <Tirek> "These "binary meanings" of kilobyte, megabyte, etc., are also used by Windows and Linux operating systems when reporting disk capacities and file sizes." on kilobyte = 1024 bytes.

23:26 <mniip> oh duh

23:27 <mniip> [02:23:51] <mniip> depends \\ if you're a harddrive manufacturer this can go anywhere between 1.048 and 0.953 \\ depending on the meanings of k and M

23:27 <Tirek> So you're only partially correct.

23:27 <Kiyiko> I'm technically correct.

23:28 <Tirek> Only when you're describing the ISO/IEC standards.

23:28 <Kiyiko> and SI

23:28 <Kiyiko> and IEEE

23:28 <Kiyiko> Two wrong don't make a right.

23:28 <Kiyiko> Being collectively incorrect doesn't magically make it correct.

23:28 <mniip> this is why I always use Ki, and never multiples of 1000

23:28 <Kiyiko> good job :)

23:28 <Kiyiko> You do it correct

23:29 <mniip> I wish everyone else did that

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23:29 <Kiyiko> They should

23:29 <mniip> also wrt harddrives, 1 terabyte could be 1 TiB, 1000 GiB or even 1000000 MiB

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23:29 <Kiyiko> Windows and the JEDEC need to get their stuff together

23:30 <Kiyiko> most everyone else is doing it right

23:30 <fyrepony> well windows 10 is out soon

23:30 <fyrepony> gonna give up from my windows 7

23:31 * mniip gave up on his windows 7 before it came out

23:31 <mniip> (by switching to the masterrace operating system GNU/Linux)

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23:32 <VinylScratch> I'd download Win 10 but I'm not keen on having to start everything from scratch. xD Not sure how it works for 10, but I'm assuming it'll do the usual 'completely wipe all your stuff to install ours first' along the way.

23:33 * VinylScratch is not much on backups, tho'

23:33 <fyrepony> yesh

23:33 <fyrepony> i got everything on my second hard drive so ill just take  that out

23:33 <fyrepony> then install

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23:36 <fyrepony> https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11081094_992707457406625_1120274241384452131_n.jpg?oh=e3a9ac66eb4e15f4d83b9cc77ad29af3&oe=55B3BCF8

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23:38 <Kiyiko> I'm not liking the latest windows 10 build

23:38 <fyrepony> why?

23:38 <fyrepony> i mean sure fonts have problems etc and window sizes

23:38 <mniip> that start menu

23:39 <mniip> I mean it's an improvement over 8 but like

23:39 <Kiyiko> my software just aint working right

23:39 <VinylScratch> I'm an 8.1 mare, it's doin' fine far as I care...I'll stick with that

23:40 <Kiyiko> many games crash to desktop, and wireshark doesn't see any network interfaces, and explorrer crashes

23:40 <Unikitty|Away> Ew Windows...

23:40 * VinylScratch boops Unikitty|Away for being such a...a....windows hatin' kitteh! XD

23:40 * Unikitty|Away uses Windows 10 though.

23:40 <VinylScratch> lol

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23:40 <mniip> ಠ_ಠ

23:41 <mniip> you don't deserve your name

23:41 <VinylScratch> WindowsKitty10

23:41 <VinylScratch> Or should that be WindowsKittyX

23:41 <Kiyiko> My guitar amp is better than all your guitar amps :D

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23:42 <VinylScratch> Well, I know I don't have any amps, so that's likely true. xD

23:42 <Tirek> I agree, only because I don't own a guitar amp.

23:42 * Unikitty|Away likes how they all think mentioning one system means it's the only one in use.

23:42 <mniip> VinylScratch, a nonexistent object has any properties

23:42 <Unikitty|Away> Also did anyone tell you how awesome Chris Evans looks in that movie... now I want to watch the second one

23:42 <mniip> so Kiyiko's statement is mathematically false

23:42 <VinylScratch> I don't really care, mniip

23:43 <mniip> but boolean logic!

23:43 <Kiyiko> :\

23:43 * VinylScratch shrugs. XD

23:43 <VinylScratch> I'm not into the maths or logic lessons

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23:43 * mniip explodes in mathematical growlings

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23:44 <Tirek> Alphanumeric!

23:44 <VinylScratch> xD

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23:44 <Kiyiko> :/

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23:48 <Storm_Dash> !hug

23:48 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3

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23:55 <ryaxnb> http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/sims/images/1/14/Monochrome_TV.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111106230215

23:56 <ryaxnb> more tvs like this, please, in sims

23:56 <ryaxnb> this tv was such a dated anachronism when sims 1 came out, and it's even better now

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