00:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 16 New 14 Dollar Shirts Appear - Everything From Episode 100 to Splattoon Crossover [ http://tinyurl.com/nh3x2kt ]
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00:06 <Butts_Over_Butts> Snybody on?
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00:06 <Butts_Over_Butts> andybody*
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00:19 <LunaticHell> I just found the weirdest thing to come from japan. o3o
00:20 <LunaticHell> And yes, it still is within PG...
00:20 <LunaticHell> ...I think.
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00:21 <LunaticHell> Schism: wanna do a dungeon together?
00:22 <Schism> Perhaps in a few. I'm going to run to the store, picking up one or two things, but I should be back in about 20-25 minutes.
00:22 <LunaticHell> k, just PM me in game when you're back
00:23 <Schism> Righto.
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00:52 <Cepheid> Schism: What server was it you're on?
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00:56 <Schism> One sec, I'll load up - it's the English RP server starting with A.
00:56 <Schism> Arcadia, I believe.
00:57 <Cepheid> Right.
00:57 <Cepheid> Give me about an hour, I'll be joining you.
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00:57 <butts_over_butts> where is the best place to rp?
00:57 <Cepheid> I grabbed the regular version, unfortunately. I've been spending quite a bit of money lately so what I have left to spend is little. :P
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00:59 <butts_over_butts> where is the best website to rp?
01:00 <FN> It depends on the rp kind
01:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Tumblr Spotlight: Ask Pon3 / Ask Dolly / Ask the CMB [ http://tinyurl.com/ogy4t9b ]
01:00 <butts_over_butts> Your favorite place to rp then
01:01 <FN> Normally it's EquestriaDailyOOC for the PG rp
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01:02 <Schism> cepheid: Indeed.
01:04 <ADragonDreaming> Welp.
01:04 <ADragonDreaming> The battle against Voslaaruum and Naaslaaruum crashed the game!
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01:06 * madhattedursa plays the jaws theme
01:08 <SkunkStripe> Unfortunate
01:08 <SkunkStripe> I guess the game didn't have enough ruum for it.
01:09 <Schism> But why is the 'ruum gone?
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01:20 <Luke_Aura> I keep on listening to the "Nightmare Night PMV music video" again and again because it's so catchy and awesome:)!
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01:22 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.
01:23 <Thelema5> !log
01:23 <Awaykitty> http://logs.unixkitty.net/eqd/latest.log.html
01:26 <Luke_Aura> Hi Themema5
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01:29 <Thelema5> How are you?
01:29 <SunShower> Thelema5!
01:29 <SunShower> hay dere :D
01:29 <Thelema5> Hello!
01:30 <SunShower> How r u~♪
01:33 <Thelema5> Can't complain.
01:33 <Finwe> o3o
01:33 * SunShower boops Finwe
01:34 * Finwe scrunchymuzzles.
01:35 <Cepheid> ...
01:35 <Cepheid> My cat locked himself in my parent's bedroom.
01:36 <Luke_Aura> I'm a GREAT AND POWERFUL Super unicorn!
01:36 <Thelema5> Cepheid, again?
01:36 <Luke_Aura> Luke can speak in the third pony :3!
01:36 <ADragonDreaming> Door was ajar, and then he closed it?
01:36 * Finwe noms on Cepheid's cat.
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01:38 <ADragonDreaming> When is a door not a door?
01:38 <Cepheid> Yeah, he walked in, closed the door by propping himself up against it.
01:39 <Schism> And then meowed piteously, I'm sure.
01:41 <Thelema5> Mur
01:41 <Schism> Well, trilled, I should say.
01:42 <SilverSpeed> Schism! hay dere! :D
01:42 <Schism> Hiyas. And blargh.
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01:43 <Thelema5> That sounds like a brittish meal. Hiyas and Blargh
01:43 <Thelema5> *British
01:43 <Daniel_Waterhorse> Yeah, that sounds about right
01:43 * Schism serves Thelema5 some bubble and squeak.
01:44 * SilverSpeed boops Schism
01:44 <Schism> Then you have bangers and mash, or spotted dick.
01:44 <Thelema5> :x
01:44 <SilverSpeed> wut
01:44 <SilverSpeed> O.O
01:44 <Schism> Traditional British cuisine.
01:45 <SilverSpeed> ok...?
01:45 <Schism> Even the British, though, are weirded out by a lovely Australian street food known as a Meat Pie Floater.
01:46 <Schism> Which is a meat pie, with ketchup, floating in pea soup.
01:46 <Thelema5> Meat pie in pea soup?
01:46 <Schism> Eyup.
01:46 <Thelema5> I think you mentioned this recently. I assumed it was a canadian thing.
01:47 <Schism> No, though there's a particular variety of meat pie which is largely Quebecois (the Tourtiere), the meat pie floater really is an Australian invention.
01:48 * Thelema5 wonders how one would grind meat so fine at to fill a Tourtiere
01:48 <Thelema5> *as
01:49 <Schism> Well, you have the ground veal and additional fillings such as potato and onion.
01:49 <Schism> Comparisons can be made to a shepherd's pie.
01:50 <Thelema5> Sounds yummy!
01:51 <Schism> It really is. When you think of Canada, you don't normally pay attention to the cuisine, but we have a lot of really great foodstuffs.
01:52 <Schism> Poutine and maple syrup are of course well-known, but they hardly scratch the surface.
01:52 <Thelema5> I had poutine for the first time not too long ago, although I don't think it was a typical example... being served with fried chicken livers and a sage-scented gravey
01:52 <Thelema5> *gravy
01:52 <Schism> That actually sounds delightful. Atypical, though, certainly.
01:53 <Thelema5> It was pretty daned delicious.
01:53 <Thelema5> *danged
01:53 <Schism> Usually it's just brown gravy and cheese curds over fried potatoes.
01:53 <Thelema5> (sorry for the typoes... my ulnar nerve entrapments are especially bad today)
01:53 <Schism> Mind you, I could totally go for some chicken hearts sauteed in that manner and served in such a way.
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01:54 <Thelema5> This was (fancy) brown gravy and cheese curds over fried potatoes with fried livers thrown in for good measure.
01:55 <Thelema5> :p
01:55 <Schism> Hey, I have an absolute love of liver and onions, so you won't hear any moaning from me.
01:55 <Schism> It sounds like an absolute heart-attack schmorgasbord.
01:56 <Thelema5> Liver and onions... that's a dish which has nearly disappeared from the Northeastern US in the past couple of decades.
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01:56 <Schism> And it's a real shame. Properly cooked liver, so that it's nice and tender, is a thing of beauty.
01:56 <Thelema5> I think it gained popularity during the great depression (because liver was cheap) and took two generations to fall into disfavor.
01:57 <Thelema5> I remember it beging served often in restaurants when I was a child, but come to think of it I haven't seen it in at least two decades.
01:57 <Thelema5> Dangit. Being
01:58 <Schism> Yeah, I remember it from my youth - unfondly, sadly - but I've grown to appreciate a nicely cooked liver.
01:58 <Schism> You don't see it these days, like you said... especially not properly cooked.
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01:59 <madhattedursa> oye forgot I had this open lol
01:59 <Schism> Actually, scratch that - even when I was young, I loved liver and onions.
02:00 <Thelema5> To be fair, though... it does smell pretty nasty while being cooked.
02:00 <Schism> Yeah, it ... doesn't really lend itself well to one's appetite.
02:00 <madhattedursa> liver is for fishing for something better to eat :)
02:01 <Thelema5> Does it serve as a good bait?
02:01 <Schism> Hey now. madhattedursa, I will not sit here and listen to you denigrate the foods of my youth. ...well, maybe that terrible pizza they serve in school cafeterias.
02:01 <madhattedursa> yes it does :)
02:01 <Thelema5> I guess that makes sense, being a blood-rich organ and all.
02:01 <Schism> Yeah, I can see it being used to catch delicious pirahna.
02:02 <Thelema5> I'd sooner eat liver than fish. Fish are like monsterous aliens.
02:02 <madhattedursa> Fish are the best :)
02:03 <Thelema5> To each their own. XD
02:03 <Schism> I picked up some lovely fish and chips earlier. Just for the halibut.
02:03 <SilverSpeed> eww fish
02:03 <madhattedursa> a little lemon a little pepper and a fire and life is good
02:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Spotlight Music: Double Bon Seven / Chant of Loss [ http://tinyurl.com/p3elts6 ]
02:04 <Thelema5> I prefer warm-blooded critters
02:04 <Schism> Give me some malt vinegar and kosher salt, instead.
02:04 <Schism> Or lemon and pepper on steak.
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02:05 <madhattedursa> A little kosher salt and pepper is all you need for a good steak :)
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02:07 <madhattedursa> Ugg I keep recording this one part for my video I need to just re write this
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02:18 <Thelema5> Malt vinegar is a lovely thing.
02:19 <Thelema5> One of my favorite things to drizzle on a burger.
02:19 <Schism> It absolutely is, yes.
02:19 <Schism> I'm guessing that another of your favourites is soy sauce?
02:19 <Thelema5> It's rather uncommon in most of the US, I think.
02:19 <Thelema5> Soy sauce on a burger? Never tried it to be honest.
02:20 * Thelema5 adds to his list of things to try
02:20 <madhattedursa> mix it into the burger for yums
02:20 <Schism> I'd try it. A burger, fully loaded, with some soy sauce and wasabi is a lovely thing.
02:20 <madhattedursa> Malt vinegar I prefer on fries and beer battered seafood
02:20 <Schism> Yeah, fish and chips with malt vinegar and kosher salt.
02:20 <Thelema5> Niice. I put wasabi on roast beef sandwiches, so I'm sure it'll be good on a burger.
02:21 <Schism> Thelema5: Ever have any Montreal-style smoked meat?
02:21 <Thelema5> I haven't, although I was just reading about it on wikipedia
02:21 <Schism> It's kinda like pastrami but just a little different, and goes well on toasted rye with mustard.
02:22 <Thelema5> Sounds delicious.
02:22 <Schism> Tis. You simply must head up here to Kitchener sometime.
02:22 <Schism> We're like the mecca of culinary activity.
02:23 <Schism> Let's just say that we have the largest Oktoberfest celebration in all of Canada.
02:23 * Thelema5 drools
02:23 <Schism> Including, of course, an absolute ton of beer.
02:26 <LunaticHell> damn it, Schism, I've been waiting for about 3 hours on you. o3o
02:26 <Schism> Sorry, enroute now.
02:26 <LunaticHell> sorry, but...
02:26 <Schism> Sleep? :<
02:26 <Schism> Cephy's about to play, I think...
02:27 <LunaticHell> It's already half past 3 in the morning on my end on earth
02:27 <Schism> Darnit, sorry. :(
02:27 <LunaticHell> Don't hit yourself over the head for this, you're not the first to forget something.
02:28 <Schism> Too late, I already dopeslapped myself.
02:28 <Schism> Cepheid! Are you here?
02:28 <LunaticHell> I've managed to be left alone on 7 blind dates in a row, noone ever showed up. I think I can manage. :P
02:29 <Schism> Yeowch.
02:29 <Schism> Was the food at least good?
02:30 <LunaticHell> Well mostly we were supposed to meet at some club, in one peculiar someone was singing karaoke...poison from alice cooper, it was really bad.
02:30 <Cepheid> Yep, why?
02:30 <Schism> Has TSW finished downloading?
02:30 <Cepheid> Working on updates, now.
02:30 <LunaticHell> Cepheid: lil tip for you: Illuminati are the funniest bunch.
02:30 <Schism> Ah, gotcha. Is Spitfire still being a loud pain?
02:30 <Schism> Also, the Dragons are awesome, shut up. :P
02:31 <Cepheid> Dunno.
02:31 <LunaticHell> The Illuminati have a character who speakes in memes.
02:31 <Cepheid> He's probably sleeping somewhere. I hope.
02:31 <LunaticHell> The "eye in the sky" as he calls himself.
02:31 <LunaticHell> At one point he is like "I spy with my all seeing eye..."
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02:33 <LunaticHell> Cepheid: one of my favorite quotes "i've only got 15 seconds for you (...) ten. nine. eight. rage quit."
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02:36 <Schism> She is pretty awesome, but Cephy, the Dragons take the power of chaos and use it...
02:36 <LunaticHell> here, read that page http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Funny/TheSecretWorld
02:37 <LunaticHell> this line made me smile, big time "I didn't expect you to pull through that one. Who's awesome? You're awesome. Who is not awesome is whoever leaked the details of this deal to the Templars. He will never have a girlfriend."
02:38 <Schism> We break things. We break things in an absolutely awesome way.
02:38 <Schism> The Illuminati, they just want to control the world. We want to end it. :3
02:39 <Schism> And we are VERY GOOD at what we do.
02:41 <LunaticHell> Aren't we fighting the guise who want to end the world?
02:41 <LunaticHell> Oh by the way, I killed a god.
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02:42 <User_3084> tyuityuityutyutydu
02:42 <User_3084> Hello
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02:44 <madhattedursa> Well lunatichell I killed a burrito while not as impressive it was alot more tasty
02:44 <SilverSpeed> taco
02:45 <One-Trick> all day erreyday
02:45 <Cepheid> Time to create a character, whee.
02:46 <SilverSpeed> a pny with the name ''taco''
02:46 <SilverSpeed> pone*
02:46 <LunaticHell> anyhay, I go bed, see ya tomorrow, Cepheid and Schism.
02:46 <SilverSpeed> how weird would it be?
02:46 <LunaticHell> Cepheid: work hard so we can have fun =)
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02:50 <Schism> Cepheid: Remember, the server is Arcadia.
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02:53 <KooK> RAWR! I AM MAN!
02:53 <Cepheid> Yeah, I remember.
02:53 <KooK> You better remember
02:53 <SilverSpeed> hay, KooK
02:53 <KooK> Yo SilverSpeed
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02:57 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Wait, is tomorrow new episode?
02:57 <KooK> The following Saturday
02:57 <KooK> there's no new episode this week
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02:58 <Schism> Cepheid: So yes! My charname is Landover.
02:58 <KooK> I'm kidding, yes, tomorrow = new episode :P
02:58 <Cepheid> Okie.
02:58 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Ok.
03:02 <SilverSpeed> gtg bye ponies
03:02 <SilverSpeed> g'nite
03:02 <KooK> later yo
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03:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Hasbro's Hong Kong Dragon Boat Competition Team Rockin Rainbow Dash [ http://tinyurl.com/pernh3h ]
03:03 <madhattedursa> later all
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03:05 <Schism> Cepheid, what's your name. :<
03:05 <KooK> Steven
03:06 <Cepheid> Sefiedo.
03:06 <Cepheid> Sorry, had to take a while to decide since "Cepheid" wasn't available.
03:07 <Schism> You're not available for /tell.
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03:08 <Cepheid> Sure you're spelling it right? :P
03:13 <Schism> Evidently not. :P
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03:16 <Cepheid> ...
03:16 <Cepheid> My cat just locked himself in my room.
03:17 <Schism> Oh yeah. Cepheid? Talk to each of the NPCs multiple times on each topic.
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03:18 <Schism> Until you see a checkmark next to the topic. The VAs are made of awesome and win.
03:18 <Schism> Also, your cat is insane, but we knew that.
03:21 <Thelema5> Cepheid, is this the third time now? You should probably fin a way to discourage the behavior.
03:21 <Thelema5> *find
03:22 <Cepheid> Indeed
03:22 <Cepheid> Especially since he was SCRATCHING AT THE DOOR HELPLESSLY TO GET OUT.
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03:22 <Cepheid> Starting to think maybe I should hand him to the specialists instead of myself when I go for the CT scan next month.
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03:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Cups: My Little Pony CCG Looking for Convention Volunteers! [ http://tinyurl.com/na86h3r ]
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03:39 <bms2993> Anyone here still not use a smart phone or am I the only one?
03:41 <ADragonDreaming> I am currently not using one.
03:41 <PinkieShy> hihi
03:41 <ADragonDreaming> But I was using one until I no longer had a reason to have an active cell.
03:42 <bms2993> I decided today to ditch my smartphone (iphone) and go to a card phone.
03:42 <bms2993> card phone = basic phone with call and text that is the size of a credit card
03:42 <bms2993> its like it isnt even there
03:42 <ADragonDreaming> My smartphone is about that sie.
03:42 <ADragonDreaming> *size
03:43 <bms2993> nah there wont be a smartphone out on the market that is this size
03:43 <bms2993> ive yet to seen one
03:43 <bms2993> it fits in my wallet lol
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04:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Story: In The Belly Of The Lights [ http://tinyurl.com/pqmlcb9 ]
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04:03 <Thelema5> Schism, I just learned that rapeseed oil was renamed "canola" oil by a marketing group in canada to avoid negative connotations of the name "rapesedd".
04:04 <Thelema5> I'm amused to learn that it's a contraction of can(ida) and ola(oil).
04:05 <Thelema5> I never knew this before, and I am now a fan of canola oil.
04:06 <PinkieShy> Hey Thelema5
04:08 <Thelema5> Yo.
04:09 <One-Trick> mfw> its late already.
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04:13 <DanielWaterhorse> Blerp
04:13 <DanielWaterhorse> I'm trying to draw Twilight Sparkle's library
04:13 <DanielWaterhorse> http://i.imgur.com/JopkTEn.png
04:14 <DanielWaterhorse> That is my work in progress that has taken many hours and is like... 2% completed
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04:14 <Thelema5> Hey, that's pretty durned good, DanielWaterhorse.
04:14 <DanielWaterhorse> But... I've lost site of why I am doing this anymore v.v
04:14 <DanielWaterhorse> Thank you tho, Thelema5
04:14 <DanielWaterhorse> *sight
04:14 <DanielWaterhorse> I am very tired
04:15 <Thelema5> It's late/
04:15 <DanielWaterhorse> True that
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04:16 <Thelema5> I'm excited about the cider festival I'll be going to tomorrow.
04:16 <DanielWaterhorse> That sounds so rad. I'm going to celebrate you going to the cider festival by having a cider.
04:17 <Thelema5> It's actually fantastically geeky, blending early colonial architecture with early colonial cider... one of the cideries has actually gone ahead and recreated a recipe from 1690 for tasting
04:17 <Thelema5> It's made mostly of crab-apples
04:17 <Thelema5> XD
04:17 <DanielWaterhorse> That doesn't sound very tasty D: But it does sound like something they would have done back then
04:18 <Thelema5> It was apparently very popular in the era.
04:19 <DanielWaterhorse> Well, when all you have are crab apples, crab apples are popular :p
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04:19 <DanielWaterhorse> We live in an era where we can eat more than the one thing that grows in the area so we're pretty lucky
04:19 <GigabitPony> sorry veery bad lag
04:19 <Thelema5> This will be the first time my broken foot has been well enough to allow me to get out of the house to do something interesting in more than a month... so I'm super psyched
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04:20 <DanielWaterhorse> Oh geeze. I didn't even know your foot was broken
04:20 <DanielWaterhorse> But I'm glad it is feeling better
04:21 <Thelema5> Oh, yeah. I've been pretty much confined to my couch and my office chair for a full 4 weeks.
04:21 <DanielWaterhorse> Dang
04:21 <Thelema5> I've done... nothing else. It's been maddening.
04:21 <DanielWaterhorse> How'd it happen?
04:22 <Thelema5> I was chasing a bear away from my birdfeeders after dark and smashed my big toe into a tree root, fracturing it at the second joint and rupturing two tendons
04:22 <Thelema5> Dumb stuff.
04:23 <Thelema5> Sitting at waiting for the body to heal can be very frustrating, so I'm glad to have a change of scenery.
04:23 <Thelema5> *and
04:23 <DanielWaterhorse> So... you're chasing a bear, in the dark, and the thing that hurts you is a stationary tree
04:23 <Thelema5> Yes.
04:24 <DanielWaterhorse> Just goes to show you.
04:24 <Thelema5> Bears scare off easily enough. Trees just don't care.
04:24 <DanielWaterhorse> Not sure what it shows you exactly, but I'm sure it shows you something
04:24 <Thelema5> Shows you that flashlights are magic.
04:24 <DanielWaterhorse> True. Trees just don't give a good gosh dang
04:24 <DanielWaterhorse> Oh geeze
04:25 <DanielWaterhorse> I've been painting for hours and just now I blinked...
04:25 <DanielWaterhorse> And like, nearly fell over
04:25 <DanielWaterhorse> Which means it is time for bed
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04:27 <User_5979> anybody on?
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04:27 <nightowl> hello?
04:27 <User_5979> sup?
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04:28 <nightowl> whatcha doing?
04:29 <User_5979> im lookin up lovestruck derpys tumblr
04:30 <nightowl> heh
04:30 <Thelema5> Goodnight, DanielWaterhorse!
04:30 <User_5979> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc-BJQJDTpE
04:30 <User_5979> check it out its prolly the best derpy blog
04:31 <Thelema5> User_5979, I see you're a fan of doctor/derpy
04:31 <Thelema5> What are your thoughts on ep. 100?
04:32 <User_5979> Very good! Probably the best in the series
04:32 <Thelema5> It was certainly a lot of fun.
04:33 <User_5979> Dude id love just a straight up series just about the background ponies
04:34 <Thelema5> Best of the series... probably not. It was targeted specifically at brony culture, so it certainly resonates with a lot of us... but as far as overall appeal and relevence... it's a bit outside of the usual stream
04:35 <Scherza> Episode was fun, but overall... it would have best been reserved as part of a side-series.
04:35 <Thelema5> It's clearly a stand-alone episode designed to please older fans of the show, but not really a part of the overall narrative.
04:35 <User_5979> the mane six are just getting kinda boring to be me. Down to earth characters are just more relatable.
04:36 <Thelema5> I personally loved the episode, and fangirled the whole way. But tbh it was nothing more than 22 minutes of loosely linked fanservice.
04:37 <User_5979> Hows that a bad thing tho?
04:37 <Thelema5> Did I say it was a bad thing?
04:38 <Scherza> Such is bad for narrative, but not overall bad for the show. If this were some less inane series, I'd have been outraged.
04:38 <Thelema5> User_5979, to each their own. I don't personally relate to any of the background characters in a meaningful sense because the main characters were designed specifically to be relateable to 95% of viewers
04:38 <Scherza> But, this being the show it is, it fits perfectly as part of the general chaos.
04:38 <Thelema5> I like them, and have fun watching their antics... but relate? Nah.
04:39 <User_5979> I can't explain it i guess then i just find the mane six boring
04:40 <User_5979> I like it when the characters interact thats mlp at its best
04:40 <Thelema5> No worries! Everypony has their own favorite aspects of the show, and that's a-okay!
04:41 <Thelema5> Just love what you love, without apology or excuse.
04:41 <User_5979> exactly
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04:41 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Aren't you the guy from last night?
04:42 <User_5979> me?
04:42 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Yeah
04:42 <Lenfant_Sauvage> We had a similar dude come in that was like "man the mane 6 are boring to me now"
04:42 <User_5979> Ya i was on last night so probably
04:44 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Hmm.
04:44 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Lenfant_Sauvage, Is the new episode this week called, Princess Spike?
04:44 <User_5979> yea that sounds right
04:44 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Ok.
04:45 <Thelema5> What? Nooooooo
04:45 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> That is the only talk about this episode until the Ban is lifted.
04:45 <Thelema5> That is too much.
04:45 <FN_zZz> That'S IT"!
04:46 <FN_zZz> You spoiled it, I ragequit the fandom!
04:46 <Thelema5> Dangit, I hate spike eps. You DID spoil it.
04:46 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> ...
04:46 <Thelema5> :p
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04:46 <Thelema5> Hi, Ali.
04:47 <User_5979> so like whats left that can happen in mlp?
04:47 * Ali wavies
04:47 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Hi, Ali.
04:47 <Thelema5> The skies are wide open, User_5979.
04:47 * Ali wavies more
04:48 <User_5979> Well i mean think about it. twilights arch is over she accomplished her goal
04:48 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> When I see Wavies. I imagine Ali doing Noodle Arms.
04:49 <Ali> There's always a friendship problem
04:49 <Ali> Her job is neverending
04:49 <User_5979> .....yay....
04:49 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> It will taken cared of in about 30 mins or less.
04:49 <Thelema5> I'm banking on Larson inserting his OC as a "villian' who is actually bringing the flame of truth to equestria
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04:50 <Thelema5> M.A. Pone: This isn't real! Search your feelings, ponies! Pinkie Pie knows it to be true!
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04:51 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> I expected M.A. Larson to appear in last episode, and say, "They all died, The end!"
04:51 <Thelema5> :p
04:51 <Vulpor> Wassup pony people
04:51 <User_5979> Mlp has great characters tho i dont want them to keep adding new ones that what shows do when the run out of ideas
04:51 <Thelema5> Hey, Vulpor!
04:51 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Hi, Vulpix.
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04:52 <Thelema5> User_5979, didn't you just say you were bored with the maine 6 and would prefer more focus on the background characters?
04:52 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Vulpor, Any games that you showed interest in E3?
04:52 <Vulpor> I dont think they will run out of ideas
04:52 <Vulpor> ALL OF THE GAMES
04:52 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Yeah.
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04:52 <User_5979> Exactly! We have so many characters we dont know!
04:52 <PinkieShy> Is lightning a lot tonight
04:52 <Vulpor> I mean they created 3 or 4 spinoffs in that one episode
04:53 <PinkieShy> went outside for a second and its lighting up the sky non stop flashing
04:53 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Vulpor, any games that really shine beyond the rest?
04:53 <Thelema5> Sooo, how did you not just completely contradict yourself? I mean, background charcters are just placeholders until a storyline is added...
04:53 <Vulpor> I would gladly see Bon Bon and Lyra seceret agent duo
04:53 <Thelema5> And the fandom adding storylines is not canon to the show.
04:54 <Vulpor> no mans sky Nossy
04:54 <Thelema5> So.. for them to "add background charcters" is just them adding new characters the fandom created....
04:54 <Vulpor> Also I finally saw metal gear solid 5
04:54 <Thelema5> Which are therefore, new to the show.
04:54 <Vulpor> a 40 minute demo
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04:54 <User_5979> I just want mlp to explore new ideas and not rehash old ones. Like AJ is stuborn we get it. We dont need to see it again
04:55 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Vulpor, Mine is KH3, No Manns Sky, Doom, Fallout 4, and the Last Guardian.
04:56 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> And the New fatal Frame.
04:56 <User_5979> And im saying add character devlopment to characters we knowalready that dont have enough
04:56 <Thelema5> That would require adding more characters, which you've declared to be off limits, User_5979. Unless you want them to water down exisiting characters with unreasonable and unjustifiable developments.
04:56 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> It is about time we got to grab the Camera Obscura again.
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04:57 <PinkieShy> Yum.. I bought some boiled peanuts today and they are soo good :D
04:57 <Thelema5> "Suddenly, Applejack is unsure of herself in her new position as dean of canterlot collage"
04:58 <User_5979> No im saying dont add someone like sombra claim him to be crazy important then drop him off the face of the earth. Thats just dum when we already have awesome villians that we dont even know
04:58 * StormDashNLR hanging out on his cloud watching King Kong and eating a "IT'S-IT" The original Ice cream treat
04:58 <Thelema5> Sombra? You're griping about a one-off character from two years ago?
04:58 <User_5979> Yea because mlp keeps doing that
04:59 <Thelema5> Why not just roll with it and have fun?
04:59 <Thelema5> It's supposed to be fun, after all.
04:59 <Thelema5> You know, like pinkie pie?
04:59 <Thelema5> Fun!
05:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Rebecca Shoichet Announced For Ponyville Ciderfest, Plus Staff Applications [ http://tinyurl.com/qd9bbqu ]
05:00 <User_5979> I do im just sayin what id like to see
05:01 <Thelema5> Fair enough.
05:02 <User_5979> mlp is a good show theyd be smart to market it dirrectly to bronies because the idea od it being a kids show limits possiblities for were the show can go
05:03 <Thelema5> Except that 90% of the audience is young children.
05:04 <User_5979> but 90% of the merchandise is bought by people with income
05:04 <Thelema5> Not hasbro's crap.
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05:04 <Thelema5> We buy licensed products.
05:05 <One-Trick> some guy asked me, while i pumped gas, "is that a pony friendship sticker thing?" pointing at my aj sticker on my truck. made me giggle.
05:05 <Vulpor> Also let's be honest Thelema5 we have young bronies
05:05 <User_5979> idk what bronies but that probably true i assumed hasbro got a cut
05:05 <Thelema5> Their real market is manufacturers paying for licenses.
05:05 <Vulpor> There are many bronies are about 11-16
05:06 <StormDashNLR> you should have said "Here's Your Sign" One-Trick
05:06 <Thelema5> Vulpor, that's true, no doubt. But it's such a tiny segment of the market that it might as well not exist.
05:07 <Vulpor> Honestly I take what I get from the show and I am just happy meeting nice people through the fandom
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05:07 <Thelema5> I agree, totally.
05:08 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Hmm.
05:08 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Someone say my age?
05:08 <Thelema5> Vulpor.
05:08 <Vulpor> What makes this fandom speacial for me is that we are comprised of different fandoms
05:09 <Thelema5> What makes it special for me is the general distain for cynicism.
05:09 <Thelema5> Most bronies would prefer an open, honest dialog without irony. I am the same way.
05:09 <Vulpor> Totally Thelema we are the New Day of fandoms
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05:10 * Vulpor WWE reference
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05:10 <Thelema5> Sorry, didn't catch it. The only wresting I watch is a tiny league called Lucha underground
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05:11 <Thelema5> It's more of a drama series than a wrestling show, though.
05:12 <Vulpor> I watch it mostly because it is something I grew up with
05:12 <Thelema5> The choreography is pretty fantastic, though.
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05:13 <Snapai> !s5
05:13 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 0d:11h:16m:41s
05:13 <FN_zZz> yay I found an olden video of me Stallionhoofing the cheap chinese pliers
05:13 <FN_zZz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjThN7gZX6c
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05:14 <nightowl> lonely
05:14 <Vulpor> Also I think this year's E3 was the brony E3
05:14 <Vulpor> It was so positive
05:14 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Hmm...
05:14 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> What do you mean, Vulpix?
05:15 <Thelema5> Vulpor, I mostly like Lucha because the women "fight" on equal terms with the men, and often kick butt: https://youtu.be/KMcXknXwDhI
05:15 <FN_zZz> Kids, don't buy cheap tools, they are literally a waste of moneys
05:15 <Thelema5> FN_zZz, this is a very true statement.
05:15 <FN_zZz> Looks for the stuff that is quality at a reasonable price
05:15 <Thelema5> I have wasted so much over the years on cheap crap tools...
05:16 <Vulpor> Nossy I cannot think of one bad thing that happened on E3
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05:16 <Vulpor> We got all the dreams
05:16 <FN_zZz> I am also guilty of cheapening out
05:16 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Vulpor, Except Square Enix.
05:16 <Cyclone_Dusk> I would like to discuss Doctor/Time Turner. Anypony up for that?
05:16 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> They kept talking!
05:17 <Vulpor> Nossy what are you talking about Final Fantasy VII
05:17 <Thelema5> Cyclone_Dusk, sure!
05:17 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> No.
05:17 <FN_zZz> But the truth is: cheap tools will come out more expensive at the end of the year than the "golden middle" quality for the price and even the expensive ones
05:17 <Thelema5> What is there to talk about?
05:17 <SkunkStripe> It did keep going longer than I thought. I said "Its not over yet?" at least 3 times udirng their conference
05:17 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Square's conference, Vulpix.
05:17 <FN_zZz> Simply because all thse will outlast the cheap ones
05:17 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Still based on the games, yes.
05:17 <Thelema5> ^ truf
05:17 <SkunkStripe> Not because I wanted it to be over, but cause it looked like it was done 3 times and then wasn't.
05:18 <Schism> Cepheid: OH HEY
05:18 <Schism> I'm suddenly in the place I wanted you to see.
05:18 <Cepheid> XD
05:18 <Cepheid> Remember it for tomorrow man.
05:19 <Cepheid> I just want to lay down.
05:19 * Cepheid flops.
05:19 <Cyclone_Dusk> Well, after watching the 100th episode for the... 'n'th time, heh...
05:19 <Schism> Dammit. :P Fine. I will!
05:19 <Cyclone_Dusk> I realized, you know, I don't think Doc really needs to BE "Doctor Whooves".
05:19 <Cyclone_Dusk> Like, they characterized him so well that ... he can actually possibly be something new
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05:20 <Cyclone_Dusk> The scene where Derpy/Muffins is talking to him at the Cafe, it actually struck me more with a back to the future Marty McFly and Doc Brown vibe!
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05:22 <Cyclone_Dusk> It was wonderful and all that he had the british accent, but his tinkering manner and his more analytical and cautious than outright adventurous nature seemed like something rather un-whoovian in what i feel is actually a surprisingly good way.
05:22 <Schism> Okay, this is silly.
05:23 <Thelema5> Cyclone_Dusk, except that they purposely wrote the character to reflect fan interpretations, outright and without shame.
05:23 <Cyclone_Dusk> What i'm saying is, Doctor Time Turner could become a viable character in his own right, having adventures with derpy without needing to rip off the whole TARDIS thing.
05:23 <Thelema5> Why, though?
05:23 <Sol> The tinkering reflects a specific doctor, I think like the 3rd
05:23 <Scherza> Doctor Emett Brown... err... Time Turner.
05:23 <Cyclone_Dusk> Because, simply put, it excites me to see the possibility of something new.
05:23 <Thelema5> Larson made The Doctor canon. What purpose is there in resisting that?
05:24 <Cyclone_Dusk> Yes, he is the doctor...
05:24 <Cyclone_Dusk> but not doctor who.
05:24 <Cyclone_Dusk> Doctor Time Turner :D
05:24 <Scherza> He definitely feels more Back to the Future than Doctor Who.
05:24 <Thelema5> It's Pony Doctor. Something new, yeah.
05:24 <Thelema5> We get that.
05:24 <Cyclone_Dusk> Thanks scherza!
05:25 <Thelema5> Seems like a viable character to me.
05:25 <Vulpor> Pretty much everyone got screen time
05:25 <Vulpor> except Flufflepuff lol
05:26 <Cyclone_Dusk> See, that's what I mean. He got his attention initially from being a David Tennant ponylike. but even though they shamelessly set out to copy the derivative of Doctor Who that our fandom stuck to him, they kind of missed the mark... and i'm saying, that 'miss' to it, it's... a blessing!
05:26 <Lenfant_Sauvage> She's not a background character though, she's wholly invented by the fandom
05:26 <SkunkStripe> They basically made him Docter-esque. They didn't go all the way into just making him the doctor. Which I apreciate though
05:26 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Larson wrote Doctor Brown, Peter New acted Doctor Who. It became a character all his own.
05:27 <Cyclone_Dusk> Exactly!
05:27 <Cyclone_Dusk> He has evolved!
05:27 <Cyclone_Dusk> He's no longer held back by what some other character would do
05:27 <Cyclone_Dusk> he's his own stallion and we could do ANYTHING with him! :D
05:27 <SkunkStripe> Well he never really was.
05:27 <Scherza> But can rather affect time in his own manner.
05:28 <SkunkStripe> We always could do anything with him. Not much has changed
05:28 <Thelema5> Cyclone_Dusk, I'm not so sure everypony interpreted it that way. The Doctor pony didn't come off as "David Tennant ponylike". He was clearly represented as a different, pony incarnation of the doctor only loosely related to tennant's interpretation, no?
05:28 <One-Trick> i didnt get tennant
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05:29 <Onyx101> hi
05:29 <SkunkStripe> I think he's referring how people viewed him before compared to now. Since a lot of people made him just straight up the doctor. or at least their universe's equvilent
05:29 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Pretty much
05:29 <Cyclone_Dusk> Scherza: Imagine if his "Bring Time To YOU" method instead made multiverse cross-connections!! He tried to make a hole that did not transport "somewhere", intending that it instead go "somewhen"--but presume he got it wrong and it was a hole to "SomeWHAT" instead...!
05:29 <Lenfant_Sauvage> And his whole reason for getting into the sciences was because he couldn't fathom bowling.
05:29 <SkunkStripe> Starswirl already made mirrors.
05:29 <Scherza> ... somehow.
05:29 <Lenfant_Sauvage> How does ball move from point A to point B?
05:30 <Snapai> :D
05:30 <Snapai> I'm gonna play with Asterisk :3
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05:30 <Thelema5> I think I should understand that better, Cyclone_Dusk.
05:30 <Scherza> I vote teleportation, then execute with a swift buck coming from the opposing direction of the desired destination.
05:30 * Lenfant_Sauvage looks askance at The_Nostalgia-Mare. Something seems off. o3o;
05:30 <Cyclone_Dusk> Well, Lenfant, if you ask Doctor Time Turner, he'd say you fix the ball in one place and then pull point B over it like a blanket :3
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05:31 <Cyclone_Dusk> His interpretation of bowling *absolutely fascinated* me
05:31 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Lenfant_Sauvage, my connection is a bit derpy.
05:32 <Scherza> !flip
05:32 * DerpyBot flips a muffin
05:32 * DerpyBot catches the muffin with her hoof, upside down
05:32 <Cyclone_Dusk> when he attempted to calculate for every variable at a glance, literally seeing the calculations over everything.
05:32 * Lenfant_Sauvage ear-wiggles.
05:32 <Lenfant_Sauvage> The difference between a hyphen and an underscore speaks volumes.
05:33 <Thelema5> Cyclone_Dusk, could you explain? I'm uneducated in math, so that scene was just comedy for me.
05:33 <KooK> I've banned 5 people in CS:GO so far... Never gets old.
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05:34 <nightowl> yummy............
05:35 <Thelema5> ... maybe not?
05:35 <KooK> SPEAKING OF CALCULATIONS! I just ordered the book Flatland, anybody ever read it?
05:35 <SgtPinkie> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOYyWZa17E0 .......k then
05:35 <Cyclone_Dusk> oh yeah! He started with Force equals Mass times Acceleration and then tried to split it up across each pin and visualize how everything would react in advance of his casting the ball, but he couldn't--I mean, of course he couldn't! Even physics engines we have in our most advanced games today can sometimes accidentally render different results from the same inputs because of rounding errors...
05:35 <Cyclone_Dusk> ...and dropped frames.
05:35 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
05:35 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Totally Minnie Track 06 - Hey Mickey
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05:35 <Onyx101> hi
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05:36 <Thelema5> Never, KooK.
05:36 <KooK> Onyx101, what do you know about the book Flatland?
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05:36 <Thelema5> Is it worth a read?
05:36 <Cyclone_Dusk> I have KooK
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05:36 <KooK> Thelema5 - I'll find out, I guess it's about a guy who lives in a 2D world trying to comprehend 3D
05:36 <Cyclone_Dusk> It's mostly a thought experiment about empiricism vs. dogma.
05:36 <The_Nostalgia-Mare> Oh my god.
05:36 <Cyclone_Dusk> It's a good book though.
05:36 <Snapai> Why does EVERYTHING have to have a router in it nowadays?
05:36 <Onyx101> ummm... nothing
05:36 <Cyclone_Dusk> Rather entertaining.
05:36 <Onyx101> kook
05:36 <The_Nostalgia-Mare> My connection is getting stupid.
05:37 <Snapai> Cable modem? Router. Ethernet switch? Router. Wifi antenna? Router. Phone exchange? Router. X.x
05:37 <Thelema5> Why does everything have to be about thought? I'm tired of thinking.
05:37 <Cyclone_Dusk> And it does give you some pretty interesting ideas on where to begin when trying to visualized fifth dimensional space (4 dimensions plus time)
05:37 <KooK> Thelema5 - Because in calculus, we have to do math in 4D sometimes
05:38 <KooK> We can plug in numbers and they come back with what we expect, but we can't really comprehend it
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05:38 <Cyclone_Dusk> Caaaaalculus... ;_; the black widow of my educational career. My love of Calculus was not reciprocated in the slightest, because I failed, and failed HARD. Much as it brightened my life every time I came to grasp a concept, I always grasped them too late...
05:39 <KooK> Cyclone_Dusk needs four more hours of practice
05:39 <KooK> he must internalize
05:39 <Thelema5> At this point in my life, I've pretty much explored all the angles and considered all the opinions. I'm done with the routine arguments, and have formulated a perspective.
05:39 <Scherza> Calculus is fun.
05:39 <Scherza> Remember the rule: Calculator allowed, but not necessary.
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05:40 <Cyclone_Dusk> The beautiful thing about the advanced maths is that after a certain point it becomes less about "doing" math, and more about arranging the math such that it does itself.
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05:40 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Come on!
05:40 <Thelema5> How would one apply that statement to daily life, Cyclone_Dusk?
05:40 <KooK> I just like how when you're in Calc 1 you're struggling through it the whole time, after calc 3 you are doing calc 1 off the top of your head
05:40 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Stop timing out Connectuon!
05:40 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> *connection.
05:40 <Cyclone_Dusk> I'll try, Thelema5...
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05:41 <Cyclone_Dusk> You wake up in the morning and you have a list of things to do in the day. It seems daunting and almost impossible...
05:41 <nightowl> hate math
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05:42 <Onyx101> hi again :)
05:42 <Thelema5> You wake up, take a shower... eat some waffles... and suddenly it becomes less about "doing" math, and more about arranging the math such that it does itself.
05:42 <KooK> Math isn't the most fun thing in the world, but if you want to get anywhere in life, most people need it
05:42 <Cyclone_Dusk> but then you do a quick, easy little account of the things you need to do each task, and visualize the completion of each task, and then it's like you already have everything sorted.
05:42 <Cyclone_Dusk> You can zone out and 'let' it happen instead of having to figure it out as you go along.
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05:43 <Cyclone_Dusk> It's the difference between being blindsided by every new development and having a plan that you can get back to after you recover from the little curveballs that life throws you.
05:43 <KooK> Basically, I believe Engineering programs are designed for people to struggle through the entire way so you can understand how things work and realize that when an answer doesn't come easy, you don't give up on it.
05:43 <Thelema5> This is simple prioritization, though. Even animals do it. It doesn't have anything to do with higher maths.
05:44 * One-Trick so tired of math, but still likes it.
05:44 <Cyclone_Dusk> So is the order of operations in maths, but the only difference is that animals don't do it automatically.
05:44 <Thelema5> Maths are pure abstractions, no?
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05:44 <KooK> no
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05:44 <KooK> Because Physics = Math
05:45 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Hmm.
05:45 <pennay_price> sup!
05:45 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Wow, My connection sucks.
05:45 <Thelema5> no, animals and people to that automatically, Cyclone_Dusk. "Am I more hungry or more thirsty?... more thirsty. Drink water!"
05:46 <pennay_price> whya re there no new episode posts. like streams and dicussions?
05:46 <Cyclone_Dusk> No, what i'm saying is, animals and people do not do the simple prioritizations of MATH automatically, but we can be trained.
05:47 <Thelema5> We can abstract the measurement of hunger and thirst and create a formula for which is a priority... but in reality it's a ntural process which requires no abstract thinking.
05:47 <Cyclone_Dusk> what separates math from the other short cuts we take to make snap decisions isn't some inherent property of math that makes it fundamentally different. It's the same language, it's just a different story.
05:48 <Thelema5> But it's a fiction.
05:48 <SkunkStripe> You ever look at stuff you know should be awful but still like it a lot anyway?
05:49 <Thelema5> I mean, we can say one apple plus one apple = two apples... but 'apple' is just a convient label we apply to things which appear to have similar properties.
05:49 * Scherza had attempted to do live math like Time Turner before. It's as ineffective as it is pointless.
05:49 <SkunkStripe> I actually like these Ponymania toy designs a lot even though they are actually terrible.
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05:50 <Thelema5> Apple one and Apple two are practically infinately different, existing in different space and different time, compose of different atoms in a different configuration...
05:51 <KooK> yet they both taste the same
05:51 <Thelema5> they only appear similar to us because of our finite monkey minds. Really, we're talking of apple1 and apple1... which added together are mearly a network of items, not a conglomerate.
05:52 <Thelema5> *apple1 and applle2
05:52 <KooK> They're similar to us because their makeups are mostly similar and we have the memory to understand this
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05:52 <Cyclone_Dusk> We nevertheless use fiction to teach one another as much as we use nonfiction. It's a vehicle for the delivery of metaphors. Until you have literally burned yourself on the stove, your caution toward it is fundamentally based on a fictional narrative that says "It will hurt", of which you have been advised, on hearsay. You don't need to actually touch a hot stove to know it'll come true for...
05:52 <The_Nostalgia_Filly> Night guys.
05:52 <Cyclone_Dusk> ...you very suddenly and very painfully.
05:53 <Thelema5> So what are we speaking about when we speak of maths? A convientient grouping of physical items which appear similar to us.
05:54 <KooK> not really
05:54 <Thelema5> But this is really a fiction. Each thing which exists in timespace is unique, in that there is nothing like it in the universe.
05:54 <KooK> Math can basically be related to most things in life
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05:54 <Cyclone_Dusk> What we speak of when we speak of math is a way of conveying the narrative of how the inanimate world will respond when we perform certain actions upon it.
05:54 <KooK> You're trying to get too deep about this
05:54 <WoeGryphon> neeeeeerds
05:55 * WoeGryphon dons shades, crushes a natty light can on his forehead. "Yeaaaah!"
05:55 <KooK> WoeGryphon, maybe if you graduated college you wouldn't be stuck in riot-city
05:55 <Thelema5> One apple is atomically the same as another apple as earth is to venus.
05:55 <KooK> No
05:55 <KooK> No
05:55 <WoeGryphon> I'd live in STL if I had a million in pocket change bro.
05:55 <KooK> That is a terrible comparison
05:55 <WoeGryphon> and actually, Kook is correct.
05:55 <Thelema5> They're both planets, kook.
05:56 <WoeGryphon> that is the worst comparison I've heard in like 5 minutes.
05:56 <Cyclone_Dusk> Earth and Venus have vastly different elemental compositions, whereas an apple is reliably mostly made of just plain old carbon o_o
05:56 <SkunkStripe> Yay carbon, wooo!
05:56 <KooK> Ok, so what does Earth have that Venus doesn't, and vice versa
05:56 <SgtPinkie> http://pre08.deviantart.net/558d/th/pre/f/2015/158/f/1/timothy_as_a_dark_rover_by_culdeefan4-d8weql8.jpg ............*screaming intensifies*
05:56 <KooK> An atmosphere for one
05:56 <KooK> Water
05:56 <Thelema5> But on an atomic level, and a molecular design level, no two apples are the same'
05:57 <KooK> We're talking about chem now
05:57 <KooK> Should I pull out the table of elements?
05:57 <Cyclone_Dusk> ...of course those carbons are bonded with a lot of hydrogen and plenty of oxygen and nitrogen to form complex polymer chains and simpler chains that we interpret as 'tasting sweet' because of how available, and relatively safe, and not toxic those particular high energy short chains are, etc,
05:57 <Thelema5> So, we cannot group them as "one" in any real sense.
05:58 <KooK> Be like "Earth has all of these in this %, Venus has all of these in this %" It's like comparing an apple to a rock.
05:58 <Thelema5> The apples resemble one another to our senses, yes.
05:58 <Cyclone_Dusk> However, we CAN group volumes of apple pulp the same way thanks to statistical mechanics! :D
05:58 <KooK> "They're both round and fit in my mouth, therefore they must be the same."
05:59 <Thelema5> But in universal perspective, they are very different.
05:59 <Thelema5> Unique individual entities.
05:59 <KooK> a rock is unique from an apple
05:59 <KooK> and orange is unique from an apple
05:59 <Cyclone_Dusk> aside from the relatively small exceptional deviations in the structures of different apples' cores, the edible parts of an apple are largely identical especially in the same germline--because like most of the fruit we eat... they're all CLONED.
05:59 <KooK> WoeGryphon is unique from an apple
06:00 <Cyclone_Dusk> Grafted branches with identical DNA!
06:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #386 [ http://tinyurl.com/njjwlzq ]
06:00 * WoeGryphon unique.
06:00 <Thelema5> A fugi apple is unique from a Granny smith apple... where are you willing to drawn the containers?
06:01 <KooK> It's because it's grown on a different sort of tree from the same family
06:01 <KooK> like how German Shepherds and St. Bernards are different
06:01 <Thelema5> I suspect that out limited monkey minds make convienent distinctions for the sake of abstract identification (names) which bear little value in reality.
06:01 <Thelema5> +our
06:02 <Cyclone_Dusk> Different germlines. Fuji apples are fuji apples, and a cubic centimeter of apple 'pulp' from one fuji apple will not have statistically significant difference in nutritional capacities, molecular structures, or elemental content, from a cubic centimeter from another fuji apple.
06:02 <KooK> Yeah, I'll be back later.
06:03 <Cyclone_Dusk> And their DNA is almost guaranteed to be identical.
06:03 <Thelema5> How nice that we define these easily macro-measurable containers to use.
06:03 <Thelema5> The universe is not nearly as black and white as we like to think.
06:03 <Thelema5> When does an apple cease to be an apple?
06:04 <Thelema5> Only when it begins to satisfy the criteria of another fruit we've defined
06:04 <Cyclone_Dusk> Oh yes! because it enables me to be sure that this fuji apple has more nutritional value than that fuji apple, because I can measure its volume and its weight.
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06:05 <Thelema5> Cyclone_Dusk, I repeat for consideration: A convientient grouping of physical items which appear similar to us.
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06:06 <Cyclone_Dusk> Thelema5: Do you think even for an instant that we would do that if it weren't useful?
06:06 <Thelema5> It's certainly useful, without question.
06:06 <Thelema5> Science is a utilitarian persuit.
06:06 <Cyclone_Dusk> That's really all that matters, because *everything* about us is actually arbitrary.
06:06 <Thelema5> *persuit.
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06:06 <RightHoofGone> Good night ponies
06:07 <ADragonDreaming> ...
06:07 <Thelema5> However, if we're speaking of universal truths, then yes, I agree.. it's arbitrary.
06:07 <ADragonDreaming> You know what apples are for?
06:07 <ADragonDreaming> Eatin'.
06:07 <Thelema5> Eating.
06:07 <Thelema5> Yup.
06:07 <ADragonDreaming> And cookin'.
06:07 <Cyclone_Dusk> And juggling!
06:07 <ADragonDreaming> Which leads to eatin'.
06:08 <Cyclone_Dusk> and balancing in big piles and stacking into apple towers or anything you really WANT to try to do with it since it's your apple after you've bought it :D
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06:08 <ADragonDreaming> And there ain't nothin' arbitrary 'bout that.
06:08 <Cyclone_Dusk> ... I can feel an urge to begin channeling pinkie pie. I'm gonna mosey before that happens. The Pink One deserves a better vessel than I.
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06:09 * ADragonDreaming whistles the Secret of Mana theme.
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06:12 <Thelema5> Well good night, Cyclone_Dusk!
06:13 * One-Trick grumpyface. uuugh.
06:14 <Thelema5> Does Amazon.com really think that "It's On It's Way!" is an acceptable tracking status?
06:16 <Thelema5> I mean, I assumed i"t's on it's way" from the moment I finalized the order. Here I am, two days later... and that's all they con provide?
06:17 <One-Trick> ive never gotten that. i always get a full status
06:18 <SgtPinkie> Someone tell me something to draw
06:18 <Thelema5> Me either... which is why I take exception to this result.
06:19 <Thelema5> I can reasonably assume "it's on it's way" from the moment I place the order... no?
06:20 <Thelema5> And yet, two business days later and I have no update.
06:20 <Thelema5> Obnoxious,
06:20 <One-Trick> is it fulfilled by amazon or a member seller
06:21 <ADragonDreaming> SgtPinkie: the FSS Intrepid touching down on Mars.
06:21 <Thelema5> Good question, One-Trick. Let me check
06:21 <One-Trick> sounds like a member seller
06:23 <Thelema5> Hmm... I can't check because I ordered the item under my partner's account, and she is not here to provide a password
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06:26 <One-Trick> under order history, once you get in there to check, there should be a link for detailed history
06:26 <One-Trick> under that, there is also an indicator if its amazon or a private seller
06:28 <Thelema5> Yeah, I am blocked because I ordered under her account because she has "prime".
06:28 <One-Trick> yeah, my husband and i share an account also
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06:29 <Thelema5> So I'll have to wait until morning to gain access.
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06:35 * One-Trick can not brain.
06:37 * CleverDerpy you can'r can a brain, silly~~
06:37 <CleverDerpy> frankenghoof tried...
06:38 * Thelema5 was just woken up at his computer, and decided to go the bed for real
06:38 <Thelema5> goodnight!
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06:40 <nightowl> hello?
06:41 <CleverDerpy> who?
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06:46 <nightowl> huh?
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07:07 <KooK> My girlfriend hates me
07:08 <Pi> I hope you're not expecting us to ask why
07:08 <KooK> Pi...
07:08 <KooK> I need you to follow up on this buddy
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07:09 <ADragonDreaming> KooK.
07:09 <ADragonDreaming> KooK. Dude. What did you do.
07:10 <KooK> ADragonDreaming comes in to save it
07:10 <KooK> I did nothing
07:10 <KooK> She bought me "Car Mechanic Simulator" on steam
07:10 <KooK> I think I'm going to decline this
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07:14 <ADragonDreaming> Hah.
07:14 <ADragonDreaming> More like she knows you like cars and working on cars and assumed that the sim would be a good gift.
07:15 <ADragonDreaming> Not realizing that the sim doesn't provide the things you actually enjoy about it.
07:15 <KooK> You mean nothing? I literally was working on a car for 6 hours today, hating every second of it
07:16 <KooK> Only doing work to it so I can sell it for a profit and get something that isn't a hunk of crap
07:16 <KooK> that hopefully I don't have to work on!
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07:18 * ADragonDreaming shrugs.
07:18 <ADragonDreaming> From what I saw I figured you liked working on cars.
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07:18 <KooK> Well, I like working on specific types of cars
07:19 <KooK> When I have a reliable daily driver, nothing else going on and a toy car, I normally enjoy tinkering with the toy car when I have money
07:19 <|-e|> so you recieved something you hate
07:19 <KooK> pretty much
07:19 <|-e|> that's sad
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07:20 <KooK> Well
07:20 <KooK> She's getting me Goat Simulator now it seems :P
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07:22 <ADragonDreaming> See? She does like you!
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07:50 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:52 * Flashy noms ConfusionRift
07:52 <Flashy> hai
07:53 * ConfusionRift patpats Flashy.
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08:09 <Flashy> hai nightowl
08:09 <nightowl> hey Flasy how's ConfusionRift taste
08:09 <Flashy> liek cheese
08:10 * Pi yawnies
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08:12 <Pi> ...
08:12 <Pi> Wrong chat
08:12 <Flashy> pi, Languagre
08:12 <Pi> I'll see myself out
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08:13 <CleverDerpy> it happens
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08:17 <CleverDerpy> oh, recurring?
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08:17 <Flashy> gotta always make sure your in the right window
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08:41 <Scherza> I always seem to lose my steam when going through brightly lit, happy-seeming areas of games...
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08:44 <nightowl> :(lonely
08:44 <Scherza> I am listening, if you have aught to share.
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08:52 <nightowl> aught?
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08:55 <Flashy> has anyone gotten so hammered, they got lost in an Ikea?
08:56 <Gigabit> I never been to IKEA.
08:56 <rela> welcome to ikea, what can i do for you?
08:59 <nightowl> ?
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09:10 <rela> unfortunately we are out of stock of this item. would you be interested in a different color option?
09:13 <Gigabit> Nuu
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09:16 <rela> ok, we will get the item in a few days so if you come back in a week you might have more luck. also we have an online store where you can get the item delivered to your home free of charge. see you
09:17 <Gigabit> Wat
09:18 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Looked like he was making jokes
09:18 <Lenfant_Sauvage> "We're out of stock. Want a different color?"
09:18 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Or maybe I'm just tired -3- z z z
09:18 <Gigabit> Wat
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09:37 <Flashy> i keep reading Lenfant_Sausage as your name Lenfant_Sauvage
09:37 <Gigabit> XD
09:38 <ZeroParadox> Lenfant is very touchy about calling him a sausage o3o
09:38 * Gigabit boops ZeroParadox
09:38 <Flashy> seems so
09:38 * ZeroParadox is sent flying
09:39 <Gigabit> And there goes team rocket
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09:45 <fyrepony> http://miszasta.deviantart.com/art/Vinyl-Scratch-540657984
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09:46 * ConfusionRift looks at the calender. "Huh, it's the b-day. Didn't notice."
09:46 <Gigabit> Your bday?
09:46 <ConfusionRift> Yep.
09:47 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Happy B-day. Lt. Cdr. ConfusionRift.
09:47 <ConfusionRift> Hehe, thanks.
09:47 <Gigabit> Happy birthday!
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09:51 * Ali lollygags on ConfusionRift
09:52 <fyrepony> daily humour: islamist were trowing hand grenades to storeyhouse in sweden, mälmö, unfortunally they forgot to take timers off.... http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article20996263.ab
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09:55 <ConfusionRift> Wow. I'm on the point of tiredness of which I have no idea what I'm doing.
09:55 * Flashy puts ConfusionRift in bread
09:55 <Gigabit> That's good! More tired
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09:57 <ProjectCarthage> I'm surprised I've managed to stay away from spoilers for this episode so well, I literally only know the name of the episode
09:58 <ConfusionRift> I have zero clue of it. And I might not stay on for the episode.
09:58 <ZeroParadox> o3o
09:58 * ZeroParadox hops into ConfusionRift's arms
09:59 <ConfusionRift> o_0
09:59 <ConfusionRift> Okaaay. Someone's a little lonely.
09:59 * Flashy unconfuses ConfusionRift
09:59 <ZeroParadox> Says you o3o
09:59 <Gigabit> Yes I am, how did you know?
09:59 <ZeroParadox> You said Zero so I assumed I was wanted o3o
09:59 * Flashy is always lonley
09:59 <ProjectCarthage> All I can say is, it's probably going to be very hit-or-miss
09:59 * ZeroParadox boops ConfusionRift and rolls away
10:00 <ZeroParadox> Flashy
10:00 <Flashy> mm?
10:00 * ZeroParadox gives Flashy a cupcake
10:00 <Flashy> yay
10:01 <ProjectCarthage> Meet me in the Spoiler channel if you don't care about spoilers, and want to know what I expect from this episode
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11:08 <Schism> Rifty!
11:09 * ConfusionRift jitters with the sudden call.
11:09 * Schism rolls over to ConfusionRift and offers a pineapple upside-down cake. o3o
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11:09 <ConfusionRift> Oh... my goodness. You have no idea for how long I have been looking forward to a pineapple upside down cake.
11:10 <Schism> They're made of delightful and win. :3
11:11 <Schism> I wish I could cook you one iRL... :(
11:12 <ConfusionRift> I wish I could cook one. We just never have the ingredients.
11:13 <Schism> Pineapple, baking soda, brown sugar, maple syrup, cinnamon, baking soda?
11:14 <Schism> ... and baking soda, but let's not belabor the point.
11:14 <Schism> And butter, salt, milk and an egg, but that's all readily available.
11:15 <ADragonDreaming> Depends where you are.
11:15 <ADragonDreaming> Also depends who shopped.
11:15 <Schism> True. Hrmf.
11:16 <ConfusionRift> Indeedydoodad.
11:16 <ADragonDreaming> Not everyone bakes much, a baking pastry-style stuff is consistently more rare.
11:17 <ADragonDreaming> Milk on hand is no longer guaranteed, especially if you don't do cereal breakfasts. Brown sugar could very well not be in the house. Pineapple, though, is the most likely missing ingredient.
11:20 * Ali flops on ADragonDreaming and ConfusionRift
11:20 <ADragonDreaming> "My parents will be very happy for us! Well, I think they will. Okay, my dad said he wanted to break every bone in your body last I wrote, but I'm sure that's not really anything."
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11:26 <Ali> Well newponi today
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11:27 <ADragonDreaming> Serial Time Defender?
11:28 * Ali doubts what that's ment to be.
11:28 <ADragonDreaming> This is true.
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12:02 <ADragonDreaming> Heeeee
12:03 <ADragonDreaming> Schism, you should appreciate this.
12:04 <ADragonDreaming> I just finished Alduin's Bane. Facing off against Mr. Big Bad World Eater and sending him packing with his tail between his legs. Decided to walk down to High Hrothgar.
12:05 <ADragonDreaming> As I reach the courtyard, Vilja starts singing "The Dragonborn Comes" - and Lydia joins in.
12:05 <Schism> Nice! I never, ever, EVER take companions on quests, so Vilja's wasted on me. But that's awesome.
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12:06 <ADragonDreaming> Are you a sneaky sneak?
12:06 <Schism> Yes, yes I am.
12:06 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, Walks-in-Sorrow is not.
12:06 <Schism> Ohey, nice. I've never played an Argonian.
12:06 <Schism> Have you gone treasure hunting off the coast yet?
12:07 <ADragonDreaming> Once or twice.
12:07 * Schism nods.
12:07 <ADragonDreaming> I've been a bit preoccupied ping-ponging across the face of Skyrim being a huge badass.
12:07 <DARK> hello =)
12:07 <Schism> Latest character is a high elf, who joined the Stormcloaks out of pure bloody-minded rebellion.
12:08 <Schism> Sneaky-sneak illusionist.
12:08 <ADragonDreaming> As it stands right now, W-i-S is literally immune to damage from anything that ISN'T a dragon.
12:08 <ADragonDreaming> And the occasional battleaxe mob.
12:08 <Schism> Now, I have to ask - did you install the Epic Dragons mod?
12:08 <ADragonDreaming> No, I installed Deadly Dragons and Dragon Combat Overhaul.
12:08 <Schism> DCO, that's the one.
12:09 <Schism> So you're used to dealing with a flock of three dragons attacking Whiterun at a time.
12:09 <ADragonDreaming> No, they leave Whiterun alone.
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12:09 <ADragonDreaming> I run into them outside of the main holds.
12:09 <Schism> You must have an older version of the mod. They pounce on Whiterun whenever I leave Dragonsreach.
12:09 <ADragonDreaming> It's entirely possible. I prefer it this way, though.
12:10 <ADragonDreaming> I want them to be challenging for me to fight, not devastating to important NPCs.
12:10 <Schism> I concur. Last time I simply got fed up and exited through the upper balcony to fast-travel away.
12:10 <ADragonDreaming> I could do without the constant ragdolling, though. Not because it makes me lose, but because it tends to bug out.
12:10 <Schism> Yeah, but the ragdolling can be adjusted in the options, I think...
12:11 <ADragonDreaming> I don't see the option on my version, at least.
12:11 <Schism> It really is constant and unyielding. I loathe it, especially in a multi-dragon fight.
12:11 <Schism> That might be another Overhaul mod then.
12:11 <ADragonDreaming> It would be better if there was a way to invest in something to make oneself immune, OR if the engine didn't want to break.
12:12 <ADragonDreaming> I quickly found out that you can't open any menus while being ragdolled.
12:12 <Schism> You did install the Skyrim Unofficial Patch ahead of the Epic Overhaul mods, right?
12:12 <ADragonDreaming> Yes.
12:12 <ADragonDreaming> Doesn't stop the camera from breaking if you open a menu while ragdolled.
12:13 <Schism> Okay, just doublechecking... OH! That's what you mean by it breaking. Yeah, that's inescapable.
12:13 <ADragonDreaming> Yep.
12:13 <ADragonDreaming> I had it happen while fighting Alduin. Opened a menu to switch shouts ... just as I got ragdolled.
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12:13 <ADragonDreaming> Very annoying.
12:13 <Schism> No, the ragdolling doesn't kill me either, but getting stunlocked to Oblivion is not what I would call a happy fun time.
12:14 <Schism> Without that, combat with four or five dragons would be enjoyable and challenging.
12:15 <ADragonDreaming> I did run into one fight where ... well, I'd just finished Discerning the Transmundane, and was fast traveling to get to Darkfall Cave.
12:15 <Schism> (also profitable.)
12:15 <ADragonDreaming> Which I found was triggering a dragon encounter.
12:15 <Schism> Oh, ew.
12:15 <Schism> No, dragons pop up on a timer. Darkfall Cave or White River Run, you'd have popped some dragons.
12:15 <ADragonDreaming> After about five times of dying either because of dragon breath I can't resist (nether dragon, forest dragon, etc.) or ragdoll issues...
12:15 <ADragonDreaming> Oh, I know.
12:16 <ADragonDreaming> It was the time triggering, it just wasn't triggering unless I fast traveled.
12:16 <ADragonDreaming> Anyway, after five times failing due to various reasons, I said "screw it"
12:16 <Night_Blitz> ADragonDreaming: Triggered!
12:17 <ADragonDreaming> Called all my followers. Mjoll, Serana, Vilja, Lydia, Rayya, Gregor, Iona, Jordis, Jenassa, Illia.
12:17 <Schism> Cripes.
12:17 <Schism> And just mobbed the lizards to death?
12:17 <ADragonDreaming> Then fast-traveled to the Western Watchtower instead, so that wouldn't be terrain in the way.
12:17 <ADragonDreaming> The followers mostly served as distractions.
12:17 <Schism> Did you also call your horse so that it could get in on the action?
12:18 <ADragonDreaming> No, Arvak takes a summon slot that needed to be occupied by a Mistman.
12:18 <ADragonDreaming> The lion's share of damage was still done by my crossbow.
12:18 <Schism> Oi, Arvak. I don't usually do the Brotherhood stuff.
12:18 <ADragonDreaming> He's not Brotherhood.
12:19 <Schism> Oh right, that's Shadowmere.
12:19 <ADragonDreaming> Arvak's the skeleton horse you get from the Soul Cairn in the Dawnguard storyline.
12:19 <Schism> Arvak's the -- yeah.
12:20 <ADragonDreaming> Frankly the grand majority of dragons have fallen to my crossboow.
12:20 <Schism> I can see that. I personally prefer a standard bow, with Dwarven arrows.
12:20 <ADragonDreaming> The standard bow is alright, but the crossbow enhanced versions punch through armor.
12:21 <ADragonDreaming> And Deadly Dragons gives dragons lots and lots of armor.
12:21 <Schism> Ahhh.
12:21 <ADragonDreaming> They also handle more easily.
12:21 <Schism> I can practically taste Smaug's jealousy. I regularly headshot with said bows.
12:21 <Schism> So armor is, dragons aside, not a thing I need to worry about.
12:22 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah.
12:22 <ADragonDreaming> I'm not a sneaker, though, and the crossbow is more suited to shooting into a melee.
12:22 <ADragonDreaming> Though I do have a plethora of swords.
12:23 <Schism> Yeah, as an Argonian, I can see you just dual-wielding short swords and slicing-and-dicing your way through.
12:23 <ADragonDreaming> No, not short swords.
12:23 <Schism> Daggers?
12:23 <ADragonDreaming> Longswords, mate. W-i-S is big.
12:24 <Schism> Ahh.
12:24 <ADragonDreaming> Specifically at this point Stalhrim longswords.
12:24 <ADragonDreaming> Threnody and Requiem, enchanted with Fire/Frost and Frost/Shock.
12:24 <Schism> Those do, if I'm not mistaken, have a quicker draw than dragonbone.
12:24 <Schism> What, no soul trap?
12:25 <ADragonDreaming> I stopped needing it.
12:25 <Schism> Mm.
12:25 <ADragonDreaming> For one, if I want something's soul, I now have Soul Tear.
12:25 <Schism> Oh, well, there you go.
12:25 <ADragonDreaming> For two, I have 318,374 septims.
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12:25 <Schism> So you're not exactly het up for dosh.
12:26 <ADragonDreaming> Right. I can just buy the souls.
12:26 <ADragonDreaming> I don't think Stalhrim swords draw quicker - what they have a 10% bonus to any frost-based enchantments.
12:26 <Schism> Or just grab a number of grands and go hunting mammoths in the plethora of giant's camps you've undoubtedly got available to you.
12:27 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah.
12:27 <ADragonDreaming> Also, Vampires like to donate.
12:27 <Schism> They are all about giving blood, yeah.
12:27 <Schism> You only really get blacks from that one guy in the University, though, unless you're using the Black Star.
12:28 <ADragonDreaming> I'm level 56. Black Soul Gems drop in the leveled lists now.
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12:28 <Schism> Oh, nice. And you've also got Blackreach available to you, so you can use those collection points.
12:29 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, though I haven't had to. As it stands I have 9 unfilled black gems, 27 unfilled grand gems, 45 unfilled greater, 15 unfilled common, 46 unfilled lesser, and 65 unfilled petty.
12:29 <Schism> You should kill some elks and fill those petty stones.
12:29 <Schism> Also, have I mentioned that Blackreach is an absolutely fantastic, beautiful place?
12:30 <ADragonDreaming> Normally you would need to in order to keep weapons charged. But there's a little thing that's worth noting.
12:30 <ADragonDreaming> Magicka cost reduction on spell schools applies to weapon enchantments too.
12:30 <Schism> Oh YEAH, and so you can just drop Destruction down to nothing.
12:31 <ADragonDreaming> Yes. Alternatively, alteration if you like paralysis enchantments.
12:32 <Schism> I'd say it was made even easier if you abuse Alchemy, but the Unofficial Skyrim Patch obliterates that bug.
12:32 <ADragonDreaming> When dual-enchanting, the effect that is more costly is the one that takes precedence, so 5-second paralysis > max destruction, meaning that paralysis weapons will always be affected by alteration reduction.
12:32 <ADragonDreaming> Unless you've got banish on the weapon, in which case it's conjuration. But Banish is niche as hell. You only use that to break Skryim's economy.
12:33 <Schism> And to deal with that joker hiding in Azura's Star.
12:33 <ADragonDreaming> Hm. True, high-level banish would be useful for those dremora. Provided you aren't immune to fire.
12:34 <Schism> Mind, I'd prefer not to banish them because Dremora hearts are rare and delicious.
12:34 <Schism> Daedra Hearts*
12:34 <Finwe> Messrs Schism and ADragonDreaming.
12:34 <ADragonDreaming> My argonian looks very intimidating, appropriately.
12:34 <ADragonDreaming> Finwe.
12:34 * Finwe doffs his hat.
12:34 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
12:35 <Finwe> o7
12:35 * Schism doffs his fish and chips.
12:35 * ConfusionRift slowly rolls around.
12:35 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
12:35 <Finwe> o7
12:35 * Schism rolls alongside ConfusionRift.
12:35 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
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12:37 <PinkieShy> hihi
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12:37 <ConfusionRift> Hello there.
12:38 <LunaticHell> mornin'
12:38 <PinkieShy> Morning :D
12:38 <LunaticHell> I was woken up by someone closing the door with a loud "boom" @_@
12:38 <PinkieShy> I'm about to leave in like 30 minutes or 20 minutes from now xD
12:39 <PinkieShy> I'm off to Charleston, SC
12:39 <PinkieShy> today
12:39 <LunaticHell> cool
12:39 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm.
12:39 <ADragonDreaming> http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/6187166007110104454/937D07EA24F77BB0E508CBCFF0BC00E117A953EB/
12:40 <LunaticHell> Schism: She tricked me, again. D:
12:41 <LunaticHell> Evil woman. >.>
12:42 <Schism> Cassie's a tricky minx.
12:42 <LunaticHell> Cassie? I'm talking about Ann Radcliffe.
12:43 <Schism> Oh, her. Pff. Ann's a piker compared to Cassie.
12:43 <LunaticHell> And she loves libraries, reading, magic and reading about magic.
12:43 <LunaticHell> And is voiced by Tara Strong.
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12:44 <Schism> Have you forgotten that Cassie managed to trick not only Lucifer, but Loki as well?
12:44 <LunaticHell> Tara. Strong. I think I made my point.
12:44 <ADragonDreaming> Is she THE Cassandra?
12:45 <Schism> Adra: She might be. The point in the story I've reached strongly implies that she's actually Lilith.
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12:45 <ADragonDreaming> Oh. That's not as interesting.
12:45 <LunaticHell> As in "Cassandra's Truth?" Pretty much, that's why I didn't listen to her.
12:45 <Schism> Adra: Oh, I think it makes it even more interesting. See, she's Cassandara too...
12:45 <Schism> Cassandra*
12:46 <Schism> Extolling the invirtuous position of God, but nobody believes her.
12:46 <LunaticHell> Schism: Everytime I hear Tara Strong's voice, I end up not noticing. She's too good.
12:46 <ADragonDreaming> Nah, the reason I find it less interesting is because Lilith is a common go-to.
12:46 <ADragonDreaming> Female character in a villainous position of ancient origin? Yeah, it's Lilith.
12:47 <ADragonDreaming> Whee.
12:47 <Schism> Well, the funny thing is that the story had Loki looking for a god-killing weapon. He was searching ALL THESE YEARS for a hammer, but it turned out to be a sword.
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12:47 <LunaticHell> Pft, why does it have to be a sword? I want a god killing branch of a tree.
12:47 <PinkieShy> Bye everybody I'm gone! :D
12:47 <ADragonDreaming> Cassandra, on the other hand, doesn't get used much. Using her but then she's actually Lilith ... ehn.
12:47 <LunaticHell> Or a god killing gun.
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12:47 <ADragonDreaming> It's just Lilith again.
12:48 <LunaticHell> Hey Schism, what about Mara?
12:48 <Schism> I'd love to get my hands on the Misteltain, but I don't think THAT one shows up. Pity, it'd be awesome.
12:48 <Schism> Haven't gotten that far yet, Lunatic.
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12:48 <LunaticHell> Let's poke Loki with a branch of a tree and do the hoki poki, oki doki loki?
12:48 <Schism> Hah.
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12:49 <LunaticHell> Oooooh right, so I won't speak about Mara.
12:49 <Schism> I'm pretty sure I can guess her particular part in the play.
12:50 <LunaticHell> Well~
12:50 * ADragonDreaming goes to figure out why Dragon Aspect isn't winged like the mod was supposed to make it.
12:50 <Sipenda> anyone sles having issue pulling up EQD, for last 3 days its the only web page i can't get on without taking 10-20 attempts?
12:50 <Schism> But the Mistelteinn...
12:50 <Schism> Sip: Might just be busy.
12:50 <LunaticHell> ADragonDreaming: Plottwist: Vlad Dracula used to be a normal human who destroyed the queen of the vampires back in his time and sealed her power.
12:50 <ConfusionRift> Have no issues here.
12:51 <ADragonDreaming> K.
12:51 <Schism> Oh, Dracula! Yes, the most legendary vampire hunter ever.
12:51 <LunaticHell> For once he's one of the good guys.
12:51 <Sipenda> KK, time to sacrife small children to my ISP again..... sigh
12:51 <ADragonDreaming> I'm not going to get excited about Secret World.
12:52 <Schism> Sipenda: Just wave a dead rooster over your modem.
12:52 <LunaticHell> I don't count Hellsing, because I wouldn't call him "good" and rather..."doing what he does to have fun".
12:52 <LunaticHell> Sipenda: My modem is powered by the soul of a forsaken child.
12:53 <Schism> Adra: Ricky Pagan is awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ7qA9RdpcI
12:53 <ConfusionRift> Mine's is powered by a 10v adapter... and a miniature alien.
12:53 <LunaticHell> Downside is that I regulary need to feed pudding to my modem, can you imagine how silly that looks?
12:54 <Sipenda> pfft i wish it was that easy, MY ISP was so bad 5 years ago i had the regonal directors to MediaComs personnal phone number on speed dial, cost thir company just under 3 million bucks in equipment up grades. the infrastrcture in this town is challened
12:55 <LunaticHell> Oh yeah, The Pyramidion is an AI powered by memes and puns.
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12:57 <LunaticHell> Schism: have you already met the mummy man?
12:58 <LunaticHell> Schism: Isn't he a downright murder of a guy?
12:58 <Schism> Yeah, he's dead funny.
12:59 <Schism> Bleh, I'm working in a half hour.
12:59 <ADragonDreaming> Get a leather suit, a pompador, and talk like Elvis when you get there.
13:00 <Schism> Oh, I work from home. And talking like Elvis would get me canned, even if I did happen to make the customers laugh.
13:00 <ADragonDreaming> Well, not while on the phone.
13:01 <Schism> Also, I no longer have the hair for a pompadour style.
13:01 <Schism> My long beautiful hair was cut last week. :(
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13:04 <Schism> Oh my gods I can't stop laughing. Philip Marquad, head of the Morninglight, a group of Satanists who were pretty much the primary antagonists, tried to kill Lilith. Her reaction? Priceless. "He WHAT?"
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13:08 <Schism> Also, Adra, I was wrong about Cassandra being Lilith. >.> She just strongly implies that she is.
13:08 <Schism> Cassie's just a manipulative NPC who plays the game extremely well.
13:09 <Schism> Pretty much all the higher-ups say, 'Okay, well-played, we really want her on our side now.' I think the Illuminati contact is especially verbose about it.
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13:14 <Voltage> New ponies, and I have waffles. Today would be a good day if I didn't have a stomach ache.
13:15 <Schism> I would offer you whipped cream and strawberries if you didn't have an upset stomach.
13:15 <Voltage> I wouldn't mind, because Waffles > Stomach Ache.
13:17 <Voltage> Once you've dealt with stomach problems for years, you kinda stop caring about pain.
13:21 <LunaticHell> I return.
13:21 <Voltage> Welcome back
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13:22 <LunaticHell> Schism: *ahem*
13:22 <LunaticHell> Maybe.
13:22 <LunaticHell> It's not like Cass would be an asset to the Illuminati or anything...
13:23 <Voltage> Illuminati? Somebody call J.C. Denton
13:24 <ConfusionRift|16b> Mr. Guy Personton.
13:26 <LunaticHell> Voltage: A bomb is a bad choise for close range combat.
13:27 <ConfusionRift|16b> Works great, hurts a bit.
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13:38 <LunaticHell> Schism: So~ did you already made it to the land of the vampires?
13:39 <ConfusionRift|16b> Be right back in a bit.
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13:47 <Schism|Adagio> I haven't made my way to Transylvania yet, no.
13:47 <Schism|Adagio> I'm still stuck in Egypt doing story missions.
13:48 <Schism|Adagio> And pulling my weight in PvP. LunaticHell, if you've not done any PvP, do so. It's ridiculously fun.
13:48 <Voltage> Whatcha playing?
13:48 <Schism|Adagio> The Secret World. Mind, not playing right now, I'm working.
13:49 <LunaticHell> I dunno, never liked PvP...but I need to PvP to get black market marks. >.<
13:49 <Voltage> Ah, that MMO
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13:50 <Schism|Adagio> Lunatic, PvP in The Secret World is NOTHING like other MMOs. Everyone is so polite and reasonable. It's kinda scary.
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13:51 <Schism|Adagio> You can have a decent conversation with someone you were just trying to murder 10 seconds ago.
13:52 <Schism|Adagio> "Well played, lemme have another go at you."
13:52 <Schism|Adagio> "Sure."
13:52 <fyrepony> you just stumbled into canadians
13:52 <Schism|Adagio> I AM Canadian.
13:53 <fyrepony> XD
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13:53 <fyrepony> that explains it
13:53 <fyrepony> canadians are famous for being polite
13:53 <Schism|Adagio> The whole playerbase is like that. It's awesome and hilarious.
13:57 <ADragonDreaming> Is PvP strictly one-to-one?
13:58 <ADragonDreaming> Or rather, I should say, is one-to-one PvP a major mode of PvP.
13:59 <LunaticHell> Oh well PvP is a rather big thing.
13:59 <LunaticHell> About captureing points and stuff...I think.
13:59 * LunaticHell pokes Schism
13:59 <ADragonDreaming> Because I've noticed a direct relationship between "difficulty of getting it to happen" and "hostility towards opponents"
14:00 <ADragonDreaming> Which actually ties back to "severity of penalty for losing"
14:00 <LunaticHell> I don't think there is any penalty for losing.
14:01 <ADragonDreaming> Which means the only penalty is not getting the rewards for winning, and the time spent on making it happen.
14:01 <LunaticHell> There's 4 places that your faction can hold, it grants a minor bonus to all faction members, like +3% exp for everyone and such.
14:01 <LunaticHell> Yup.
14:01 <ADragonDreaming> If neither of those are very severe, then PvP will be casual in nature.
14:02 <LunaticHell> You can, however, capture these points and grant a bonus to all member of your faction.
14:02 <ADragonDreaming> Leading to the community treating it as something to do for funsies as opposed to srs bsns.
14:02 <LunaticHell> Or help defending.
14:02 <ADragonDreaming> It's when the latter occurs that you get the hostility.
14:02 <LunaticHell> I dunno, I've never done PvP, not a big fan of PvP in general.
14:02 <ADragonDreaming> And most MMOs have it set up so that PvP is srs bsns.
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14:03 <LunaticHell> But as far as I know PvP is balenced stuff, you don't join with your maximum level character to whale on first level noobs, everyone gets an equal shot at it.
14:05 <LunaticHell> You can win black market marks you can spend on equipment you can use outside of PvP...yeah that is supposed to make sense.
14:05 <ADragonDreaming> No, that does make sense.
14:05 <ADragonDreaming> That would be the reward for even doing it.
14:05 <ADragonDreaming> Universally useful stuff.
14:05 <ConfusionRift> Actually came back in just to mention that I'm not staying for the episode. See ya laters, and have a good one.
14:05 <LunaticHell> See ya confu
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14:06 <ADragonDreaming> I will probably fall asleep somewhere in the interim, but won't be watching the epi today
14:06 <LunaticHell> Problem for me is that I generally shy away from PvP in general...
14:06 <ADragonDreaming> Do you absolutely need the stuff?
14:06 <LunaticHell> ...but well, that is my problem, not the porblem of the game.
14:07 <LunaticHell> It's a nice to have, I recon, but if I put in time and energy I might find good equipment in either dungeons or raids or high level missions.
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14:07 <LunaticHell> Two of which I need a well trained and equiped team, mind you.
14:08 <ADragonDreaming> Well, then, pick your poison.
14:08 <LunaticHell> Well that's what it boils down to, but it's fair enough.
14:09 <Voltage> Hi Pi
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14:11 <Pi> Evening
14:11 <Pi> How's you?
14:12 <Voltage> I'm good, getting excited for Dark Souls 3
14:12 <Voltage> You?
14:13 <Pi> getting excited for Fall- *ahem*
14:13 <Pi> FALLOUT FOOOOOOOOOUUUURRRRR
14:13 <Voltage> Yup, seems good too
14:16 <ADragonDreaming> Wheeee!
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15:01 <ADragonDreaming> Once upon a time, a YTP called out into the void ...
15:01 <FN_away> coi
15:01 <ADragonDreaming> and was met with silence.
15:01 <FN_away> I mean, hi
15:01 <ADragonDreaming> But, no, we're here.
15:01 <FN_away> He JYTP!
15:01 <FN_away> Welćome to the pony chats
15:02 <FN_away> Keep it friendly and PG and don't shy away from a conversation! Everypony is welcome here as long as they behave.
15:03 <JYTP> Any flordia bronies here?
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15:04 <JYTP> Is spike going to be a alicorn if so I hate you M.A Larson!
15:04 <FruitNibbler> Chances are high that there, but not necessary active (there are a lot of lurkers that join, but don't speak)
15:04 <FruitNibbler> !S 5
15:04 <FruitNibbler> !S5
15:04 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 0d:01h:25m:16s
15:04 <FruitNibbler> Phew, almost forgot
15:05 <Voltage> Huh, I find myself watching YMS of Cyberbully again. No idea why.
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15:05 <JYTP> Derpy whooves is now offical for this season!
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15:05 <Voltage> Even Larson considers Muffin to be her nickname.
15:06 <JYTP> :D Agar.io?
15:06 <JYTP> Any players off it?
15:07 <JYTP> *of*
15:07 <JYTP> Bye
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15:08 <Pi> Unixkitty: not sure if I've linked this before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Od0_mpLGFw :3
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15:22 <madhattedursa> howdy all
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15:34 <RightHoofGone> Good morning ponies
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15:35 <madhattedursa> morning
15:35 <madhattedursa> what is the spoilers channel?
15:35 <RightHoofGone> Morning to you too
15:35 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> #EquestriaSpoilers
15:36 <RightHoofGone> #equestriaspoilers
15:39 <RightHoofGone> I don't even know why I got up right now; there isn't reason to watch the episode live
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15:41 <madhattedursa> you just wanted to see ponies, that is all righthoofgone
15:41 <FruitNibbler> Why not?
15:42 <RightHoofGone> I don't know if sleep deprivation is worth it, watching live
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15:46 <RightHoofGone> It's all low res streams for me—not having discovery family—and s5 hasn't wowed me so far.
15:50 <RightHoofGone> madhattedursa: ponies are pretty great, though.
15:51 <Schism|Adagio> Augh
15:51 <Schism|Adagio> Augh augh augh augh augh. GIVE ME DEATH.
15:51 <madhattedursa> it will be ok I am sorry you seem to be unable to sleep
15:52 * madhattedursa hands schism a deepfired snickers stuffed into a twinkie
15:52 <Schism|Adagio> I just dealt with a range extender produced by a third party producer who has no clue how to deal with firmware and a FREAKING SAMSUNG TV.
15:53 <Schism|Adagio> And AND AND A PC CLEANUP ON A WINDOWS XP MACHINE.
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15:54 <madhattedursa> did youmanage to get it all sort it out
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15:57 <RightHoofGone> Insomnia is awful when it hits, no?
15:58 <madhattedursa> yes it is.
16:00 <Luke_Aura> Hi everypone on the phone!
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16:11 * VinylScratch uses the power of wub!
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16:12 <madhattedursa> She cleans them with Wubs
16:16 <LunaticHell> How ya doin', blue brittish brony brethren?
16:17 <LunaticHell> I tried to come up with more words that start with "B" but at one point you just gotta let it B.
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16:24 <Kalastrear> hello loves!
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16:25 <fyrepony> ill hope ill win
16:25 <fyrepony> just 40€ its a steal
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16:31 <Oh> Hello
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16:36 <FN> !S5
16:36 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 6d:23h:53m:23s
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16:40 <Pi> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxCCp3nbCEk&feature=youtu.be
16:40 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
16:40 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Shiawalker Inspirational
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17:00 <Knight_Dash> Hey, guys. :)
17:00 <RightHoofGone> hey Knight_Dash
17:01 <FN> New episode was interesting... and weird
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17:01 <RightHoofGone> something
17:02 <RightHoofGone> my faverite non-descript noun
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17:04 <Cyclone|Away> 4/10.
17:04 <Cyclone|Away> worst of S5.
17:06 <VinylScratch> Leave further thoughts in spoiler chat
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17:06 <Jon-The_Bronynerd> What VinylScratch said, Cyclone
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17:22 <RightHoofGone> S5 as a whole has for sure weaponized cuteness
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17:49 <rainbow_dash764> hey every pony
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17:49 <LightDash> the new episode of mlp season 5 episode 10. is good.
17:49 <LightDash> *no spoil
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17:50 <rainbow_dash764> alright im ganna go watch it
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17:50 <ProjectCarthage> I knew the was gonna be people who don't like it, not every episode can be like Ep100, and people expect them to keep topping it
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17:50 <ProjectCarthage> I thought it was ok
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17:51 <LightDash> the 100 one is awesome but the new episode well is just good.
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17:56 <SgtPinkie> Quite honestly?
17:56 <SgtPinkie> Ep100 was good
17:56 <SgtPinkie> But it wasn't spectacular
17:56 <Arteshi> If we're being honest I actually didn't like ep 100. /me runs for cover in the centre of the earth, and probably still doesn't have enough protection.
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17:57 <User_2958> Hey guys
17:57 <Arteshi> hai
17:57 <SgtPinkie> The only reason it was so well-recieved is because of the (word that's not pandering but means pretty much the same thing)
17:57 <User_2958> Hows everyone today
17:57 <Arteshi> I know that, SgtPinkie. :c and I hate that.
17:57 <ProjectCarthage> fanservice?
17:58 <LightDash> ep100 is awesome. and is the only episode that all background ponies will see and after this episode well back to the mane 6.
17:58 <User_2958> Am i a bad bronie if i havnt seen season 5 yet?
17:58 <Arteshi> I have my argument for that, but at the same time liking an episode is an opinion. So I'll just sit back and ominously stare.
17:58 <Arteshi> OwO
17:58 <SgtPinkie> Well, and then whhat pisses me off even more is that we still have totally ungrateful people
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18:00 <LightDash> i dont want that somepony say the 100 ep was good cause is the only episode with background pony and thats it.
18:00 <SgtPinkie> Who are like, nuuuuuuuuu u didnt call derpy derpy u destroyed my fanon lyra and bonbon should have had a 10 minute hardcore makeout scene whooves shouldve been voiced by david tennant
18:00 <LightDash> *was not good
18:00 <Arteshi> I didn't care for the episode for several reasons, if that makes you feel better. :p Also I kinda figured I wouldn't like it.
18:00 <Knight_Dash> If you give a mouse a cookie..
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18:03 <LightDash> well i call that those people who say those word SgtPinkie are just annoying brony who want more while the episode is still good if those guys stop complaint about it.
18:03 * VinylScratch thinks folks are allowed their own opinions so long as they don't go stomping all over everyone elses with it unreasonably
18:04 <VinylScratch> it's when they do that that stuff becomes unpleasant to deal with generally
18:04 <Arteshi> But Viiiiiinyl, my opinion is secretly fact, and I have to make sure everyone knows the faaaacts! D:
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18:04 * VinylScratch uses 'Subjective' shield - it's super effective at being deflective!
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18:05 <Arteshi> aaaah!
18:05 * Arteshi is defeat!
18:05 <LightDash> i want that everypony enjoy those episode without being complaint and hateful for once.
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18:05 <VinylScratch> Yeah, good luck with that
18:05 <VinylScratch> wait until the movie happens. XD
18:06 <ArchPegasusMichael> All your bass is belong to VinylScratch.
18:06 <SkunkStripe> As much as a prefer when everyone likes an episode, complaints happen.
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18:06 <SkunkStripe> Or more acuratly criticism.
18:06 <LightDash> haha...really funny. -_(\
18:06 <RightHoofGone> Why do I feel this way
18:06 <VinylScratch> Folks complain when we get what we want, some folks complain when we don't...there's no winning everyone.
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18:07 <LightDash> well i call that unfair
18:07 <SkunkStripe> It has nothing to do with being fair.
18:07 <LightDash> and useless
18:07 <VinylScratch> You're wrong, LightDash
18:07 <VinylScratch> simply put.
18:07 <SkunkStripe> The show does a lot of different things. Theres a lot of different people who want different things out of the show
18:07 <RightHoofGone> Sometimes I doubt why I'm even here
18:08 <VinylScratch> Well, you can only do what works for you, RightHoofGone
18:08 <SkunkStripe> Fpr example we have CMC episodes. Theres a lot of people who just plain dislike the CMC and dont like CMC episodes.
18:08 <RightHoofGone> Yeah, and I don't know anymore
18:08 <SkunkStripe> Theres people who care more about the lesson. Theres people who don't care about the lesson and care about the jokes. Excetera excetera.
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18:09 <VinylScratch> Then perhaps you're simply becoming ready to move on from the show...but not ready to admit that to yourself yet?
18:09 <TiniDinkyDoo> Iv yet to see the slice of life episode. The copy from yay ponies was in terrable unwatchable shape
18:09 <LightDash> what i say is not wrong i try to be positive without being hateful.
18:09 <RightHoofGone> VinylScratch: I don't know, I rather enjoy most of s1-4
18:10 <VinylScratch> nothing of 5 though?
18:10 <TiniDinkyDoo> But look at it this way LightDash. Say we do everything you want and like. Then what about the people not like you?
18:10 <RightHoofGone> It's ok. Feels quite different to me
18:10 <RightHoofGone> Like a different show
18:10 <VinylScratch> Eh, I don't feel that. xD
18:11 <LightDash> i hate some episode but i will not being say bad thing even those are not like the episode.
18:11 <TiniDinkyDoo> A little RightHoofGone but I also didn't like most of s3 till later on.
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18:11 <RightHoofGone> That's what I'm thinking
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18:11 <Commodus> http://i.imgur.com/BOMFjVb.png
18:12 <TiniDinkyDoo> Also LightDash i have a episode that I dislike so much that I turned it off half way through and haven't watch yet from s3 don't say anything about it till now though.
18:12 <RightHoofGone> S5 episodes for me tend to get better with time
18:13 <LightDash> what episode?
18:13 <RightHoofGone> The premier
18:13 <RightHoofGone> And 3
18:14 <LightDash> what those episode that did like it?
18:14 <TiniDinkyDoo> Rarity as a farmer?
18:14 <LightDash> *not like it
18:15 <LightDash> im confuse right now.
18:15 <TiniDinkyDoo> The lesson was unless to me as also as I belive not to change myself adimitly already
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18:15 <TiniDinkyDoo> The trenderhoof episode?
18:15 <TiniDinkyDoo> Ponyvil of days festival?
18:16 <Commodus> https://i.4cdn.org/mlp/1434629620859.png
18:16 <Commodus> chubby zebra
18:16 <RightHoofGone> The premier: felt a bit grim. 3: felt too slice of life, and I had not watched anything slice of life in a while
18:17 <Commodus> http://orig00.deviantart.net/b336/f/2015/020/7/b/doodle_d_palette_by_jetwave-d8ep9lh.png
18:17 <RightHoofGone> TiniDinkyDoo: s3 not s4
18:18 <LightDash> whats the episode you dont like in the s3 TiniDinkyDoo?
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18:18 <Arteshi> They're referring to Simple Ways, I believe, which was a s4 episode
18:19 <TiniDinkyDoo> Huh that wast in s3? Lol anyway I dislike that episode and will never watch it.
18:19 <LightDash> what episode?
18:19 <TiniDinkyDoo> I loved s4...
18:19 <TiniDinkyDoo> 1:18 PM <Arteshi> They're referring to Simple Ways, I believe, which was a s4 episode
18:19 <RightHoofGone> S4 was awesome
18:19 * RightHoofGone sighs
18:19 <Arteshi> It was s4e13
18:20 <LightDash> simply ways is the episode you dont like?
18:20 <Commodus> S4 was alright.
18:20 <Commodus> A shame alicorn Twi happened, but whatcha gon' do.
18:20 <TiniDinkyDoo> Castlemania reminded me of a scooby Doo episode.
18:20 <RightHoofGone> Yup
18:21 <TiniDinkyDoo> Well I didn't care about Alicorn twilight after all it wasn't that bad for crying out loud.
18:21 * LightDash is confuse
18:21 <RightHoofGone> But she's still very much adorkable
18:21 <TiniDinkyDoo> Just more story to work with.
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18:21 <Commodus> It was pretty pointless.
18:21 <RightHoofGone> Agreed
18:22 <VinylScratch> it was also pretty inevitable
18:22 <RightHoofGone> It opens doors
18:22 <Commodus> And clearly shoehorned in to sell toys :I
18:22 <VinylScratch> The show IS meant to do that. :P
18:22 <Commodus> It is, that was just more blatant about it.
18:22 * VinylScratch shrugs
18:22 <VinylScratch> it was a hasbro call, not much can be said other than that
18:22 <Commodus> Yeah.
18:23 <Commodus> DHX did well, all things considered.
18:23 <VinylScratch> The episode should have been a 2 parter, but eh...they tried a different way. XD
18:23 <VinylScratch> and THAT call was up to DHX, so that part is their fault.
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18:24 <TiniDinkyDoo> Agreed should have been two parts. Felt a little rushed.
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18:24 <RightHoofGone> At the end of the day, it's a show; like it, or don't
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18:25 <Commodus> As a show, we're allowed to judge it and state opinions on elements of it :I
18:25 <aqualycool22> ^
18:25 <VinylScratch> xD An episode that still has people asking 'so what exactly resolved it?' has more than a few snafuu's
18:25 <RightHoofGone> Yup
18:26 <aqualycool22> Aww, I missed it! Damn it. I forgot to record it...
18:26 <RightHoofGone> You didn't miss much
18:26 <TiniDinkyDoo> Yeah but I think after a point stating your opinions in pointless. Allready know a lot of people didn't like it so not news to me.
18:26 <RightHoofGone> Not available in a later version
18:26 <VinylScratch> Doesn't mean folks can't state. :p
18:26 <Commodus> Dinky, pls.
18:27 <Commodus> That is also an opinion, that you are stating.
18:27 <TiniDinkyDoo> Pls what?
18:27 <Commodus> We can all state our opinions.
18:27 <Commodus> Like Vinyl said.
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18:28 <TiniDinkyDoo> Oh yeah but even then that opinion is also pointless as I'm sure there's a lot of people who think the same thing
18:28 <VinylScratch> Why dub somebodys thoughts as pointless?
18:28 <VinylScratch> Should we call your opinion pointless too?
18:28 <RightHoofGone> Rehashed
18:29 <RightHoofGone> That said, letting thoughts out keeps people sane
18:29 <Commodus> Yee.
18:29 <Commodus> ^
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18:30 <RightHoofGone> It gets annoying, but it's for the best
18:30 <VinylScratch> Well, we all have our bugbears.
18:30 <VinylScratch> { Surprise, that's an actual word for those who weren't aware. XD }
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18:30 <TiniDinkyDoo> Huh oh look! I did calm my opinion pointless!
18:31 <TiniDinkyDoo> What do you know....
18:31 * VinylScratch has moved on
18:31 <RightHoofGone> I learned something!
18:31 <SkunkStripe> The bugbear has been defeated!
18:31 <VinylScratch> A bugbear is mostly a mild annoyance or trouble - which, for ep 100, is apt.
18:31 <Commodus> That's perfect.
18:31 <RightHoofGone> Lol
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18:31 <RightHoofGone> That's great
18:31 <TiniDinkyDoo> Bugbear? Please explain this to us?
18:32 <Commodus> That's almost as good a word as bumbling.
18:32 <SkunkStripe> I like how many ponies actually spent their day watching the fight
18:32 <VinylScratch> just did
18:32 <Commodus> Bumbling BumbleBugBear
18:32 <TiniDinkyDoo> A bugbear is a minor annoyance. Got it. So again what is the explanation?
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18:32 <TiniDinkyDoo> Because I still do t understand
18:32 <RightHoofGone> I was going to ask why it was a bee
18:32 <VinylScratch> Well, what explanation are you after?
18:33 <Pi> https://soundcloud.com/monstercat/hyper-potions-adventures
18:33 <VinylScratch> because I'm simply saying that the reason the creature in the episode was a bugbear is because of that word
18:33 <Commodus> Cause it was a minor annoyance.
18:33 <VinylScratch> Bingo
18:33 <TiniDinkyDoo> Talking about an episode then? If so what one?
18:33 <VinylScratch> ...100
18:34 <VinylScratch> Bugbear was the creature they were fighting
18:34 <RightHoofGone> I get why a bug, but bee specifically?
18:34 <TiniDinkyDoo> Oh
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18:34 <SkunkStripe> because they needed a stinger
18:34 <VinylScratch> xD
18:34 * RightHoofGone facehooves
18:34 <LightDash> lol
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18:35 <Commodus> http://i.imgur.com/kNqHmVI.png
18:35 <RightHoofGone> Gah, hooves are hard!
18:36 <LightDash> dont break your keybroad with your hooves.
18:37 <Commodus> http://i.imgur.com/BOMFjVb.png
18:37 <Commodus> Got a pretty horse drawn.
18:38 <LightDash> *keyboard
18:40 <RightHoofGone> BTW touch screens and hooves
18:40 <Commodus> Named her Sharkface. She's a cutie.
18:41 <RightHoofGone> Fun times, fun times
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18:45 <Tirek> Does Sharkface come accompanied by the Jaws theme?
18:46 <Commodus> Naw.
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18:46 <Tirek> Downvoted.
18:46 <Commodus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aOMFcl9hUo
18:46 <Commodus> Heavy guitar chords.
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18:47 <Tirek> Eh.
18:47 <Tirek> Not my style.
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18:48 <Commodus> Fair enough, it's pretty damn metal.
18:48 <Commodus> The keyboard ruins that LI
18:48 <Commodus> :I
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18:50 <CleverDerpy> good morning
18:51 <CleverDerpy> err... afternoon
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18:51 <Luke_Aura> Hooves are awkward for drawing and doing other things. That's why MASTER RACE Unicorns, like me, use awesome magic to levitate and do things easily :P!
18:52 <Commodus_> Hooves is great.
18:52 <Commodus_> Earth Pony master race.
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18:52 <SkunkStripe> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O9YNQOLlRU
18:52 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
18:52 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 秋赤音 (Akiakane) 『 弾かれた空は蒼』ゆよゆっぺ (Yuyoyuppe)
18:52 <Commodus_> http://dattebayo681.deviantart.com/art/Fear-me-494563967
18:53 <CleverDerpy> Luke_Aura, pegasi have wings
18:53 <CleverDerpy> we can draw and do stuff just fine, thank you very much
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18:54 <Luke_Aura> I know pegasi have wings. Wings for awesome flying
18:54 <CleverDerpy> i'm not saying pegasi are the best, just don't count us out, earth ponies can get pretty creative
18:54 <Tirek> >Master Race discussions
18:54 <Tirek> >2015
18:54 <CleverDerpy> earth ponies are strong folk
18:54 <CleverDerpy> pegasi are agile
18:54 <Luke_Aura> I was joking. All races are equal! Just ask Starlight Glimmer!
18:54 <CleverDerpy> and unicorns have technique and magic
18:55 <CleverDerpy> by no means are we equal, just unique~
18:55 <Tirek> With the exception of a PRIVELAGED few, Unicorn magic never gets to be very powerful.
18:55 <CleverDerpy> that's not a bad thing
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18:55 <Luke_Aura> Equally unique?
18:56 <CleverDerpy> you know, Charles donkeywin said ponies evolved to fit the needs of their world into many species,
18:56 <Tirek> A+
18:56 <DinkyDoo> It's kinda like you get a random lottery of your power?
18:56 <CleverDerpy> not power
18:56 <CleverDerpy> talents and capabilities
18:57 <Luke_Aura> Unicorns should have great potential that they can unlock if they study enough
18:57 <Tirek> Except most unicorns will only want to know magic that helps them with their talents.
18:57 <Luke_Aura> Charles Darwing
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18:57 <Tirek> Ponies have one-track minds.
18:58 * CleverDerpy blushes and glares at Tirek... sort of... "excuse me?!"
18:58 <SkunkStripe> Its never clear wether any unicorn has the potential or if normal ones would be nearly physically incapable of reaching the level of "gifted" ones
18:58 <Luke_Aura> Still, some Unicorns would be interested in learning more spells. Plus, as long as they have the POTENTIAL to learn lot's of spells, that would be awesome, and would be my headcannon
18:59 <CleverDerpy> I love all species the same, but my love for them is shown in different ways
18:59 <Tirek> They are a privelaged few, though.
18:59 <Tirek> Those who's talent IS Magic.
18:59 <Tirek> Or, if they have some very great purpose that requires excessive amounts of magical power.
18:59 <Tirek> Like Celestia and Luna.
19:00 <CleverDerpy> Tirek, I think the strain thing is true
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19:00 <SkunkStripe> Well they arn't unicorns
19:00 <CleverDerpy> maybe unicorns could do it, if they have the mental and magic capcity to match
19:00 <DinkyDoo> Personally I think thestrals end up winning in long run. Based off of lack of competition during nighttime. Let the daytime ponies fight it out.
19:00 <Tirek> CleverDerpy, it was stated in Hearths Warming Eve that unicorns could do it.
19:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Flowers For Alger-nom / Owl Talk / Wardrobe Malfunction / Strange Weather [ http://tinyurl.com/oy9nn77 ]
19:00 <Luke_Aura> I blame Twilight and Harry Potter for giving me such a great interest in magical power:S
19:00 <CleverDerpy> Tirek, fascinating...
19:00 <DinkyDoo> Lol
19:01 <Luke_Aura> Unicorns could MOVE THE SUN AND MOON!
19:01 <Tirek> But it was a council of a hundred unicorns.
19:01 <Tirek> Or more.
19:01 <Luke_Aura> Still,
19:01 <Tirek> The entire unicorn race was responsible for day and night back then.
19:01 <Tirek> No one pony could do it until Celestia and Luna came around.
19:01 <Tirek> Not even Star Swirl.
19:01 <CleverDerpy> well, put an army of magic heads together, and you do have a lot of power and command over something like that if you try
19:01 <Luke_Aura> How do you get a cutie mark in RISING THE SUN OR MOON!?
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19:02 <CleverDerpy> Luke_Aura, very early
19:02 <Tirek> I think Celestia and Luna were canonically born as alicorns.
19:02 <LightDash> celestia and luna are gods
19:02 <Tirek> Stop that.
19:02 <CleverDerpy> now that might be pushing it
19:02 <CleverDerpy> gods?
19:02 <CleverDerpy> no...
19:02 <CleverDerpy> they were born into a mortal world and are quite vulnerable
19:02 <Luke_Aura> They are immortal, and powerful, and ponies
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19:03 <DinkyDoo> Yeah a god is to far...
19:03 <Tirek> They aren't immortal, just age-less.
19:03 <LightDash> what alicorn are like gods. (but not too gods)
19:03 <Tirek> Misinformation!
19:03 <CleverDerpy> actually, Tirek, immortal is the correct word, you're thinking of invicable
19:03 <CleverDerpy> *invincable
19:03 <Tirek> Invincible.
19:03 <CleverDerpy> thank you
19:03 <Tirek> You're welcome.
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19:04 <Tirek> And I think immortality these days contextually means "incapable of dieing"
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19:04 <LightDash> sorry but the never say that on mlp so nopony know too much of this univers
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19:04 <Skippez_Shadow> Is tje newest episode princess spike?
19:04 <CleverDerpy> gods would imply they are either spiritual overseers with unlimited power, no way to be killed, period, and the ability to perform the truly impossible
19:05 <CleverDerpy> or simply too strong to be harmed or killed
19:05 <Tirek> And neither is true.
19:05 <CleverDerpy> exactly
19:05 <LightDash> gods cannot be always perfect
19:05 <DinkyDoo> I think immortal is closer to unaging. Or hyper healing that make natural decay a mute point.
19:05 <Skippez_Shadow> Ahah, about that
19:05 <CleverDerpy> omnipotent gods are really overated
19:05 <Luke_Aura> Changeliing Queen over powered Celestia
19:05 <CleverDerpy> there HAS to be a flaw
19:05 <Tirek> ^
19:05 <CleverDerpy> otherwise
19:05 <CleverDerpy> there is no story
19:06 <DinkyDoo> !seen waffles
19:06 <Skippez_Shadow> Can my question be answered?
19:06 <DerpyBot> DinkyDoo: The last time I saw waffles was 2015-06-07 23:30:25 UTC
19:06 <Tirek> Celestia and Luna are incredibly powerful, probably the most powerful ponies alive.
19:06 <CleverDerpy> DinkyDoo,
19:06 <CleverDerpy> do you like muffins?
19:06 <Tirek> But, they've been defeated once already.
19:06 <LightDash> jeez go to equestria and talk to them if i cant answer correcly.
19:06 <Angelion> Skippez_Shadow yes, it is
19:06 <Luke_Aura> Defeated TWICE already!
19:06 <Skippez_Shadow> Thx
19:06 <Tirek> Dunno about twice.
19:06 * DinkyDoo drools at the thought of muffins. "Muffffinnns..." She drones.
19:07 <CleverDerpy> Tirek, that's debatble
19:07 <Angelion> Youre Welcome
19:07 <CleverDerpy> reason?
19:07 <Tirek> Unless you mean the comics, which I'm not abreast on.
19:07 <CleverDerpy> cadence, discord, twilight, and sunset shimmer
19:07 <CleverDerpy> all of which have some kind of amazing hidden potent
19:07 <Tirek> Discord is immediately disqualified because not a pony.
19:07 <Luke_Aura> Everfree defeated them easily
19:07 <CleverDerpy> ok, but the other 3 are
19:08 <Tirek> Cadence, Twilight, and Sunset Shimmer aren't nearly as powerful as they are. Yet.
19:08 * LightDash fly away cause nopony know 100% of equestria perfectly.
19:08 <Tirek> The possibility is there, but it hasn't occurred.
19:08 <Tirek> Except for like
19:08 <CleverDerpy> we know all 3 have something... about them
19:08 <Tirek> 5 minutes on the S4 finale.
19:08 <CleverDerpy> twilight's power is probably the fastest growing
19:08 <DinkyDoo> I think twilight is as powerful as Luna at least as her talent in magic its self
19:09 <Tirek> Nah.
19:09 <Tirek> I'm not willing to believe Twilight has amassed that much power so easily.
19:09 <CleverDerpy> Tirek, nightmare moon was luna, so technically... by this point, I could see DinkyDoo's point
19:09 <Tirek> The Elements did that.
19:10 <CleverDerpy> yeah, but twilight herself has grown so much since S1
19:10 <DinkyDoo> Equestria needs the sun as well as the moon and magic see what I'm geting at its a world building block. A archtype talent like Luna's and Celestias's
19:10 <Tirek> I still am not willing to believe Twilight is more powerful than the other three Alicorns yet.
19:10 <CleverDerpy> it's kinda scary how much twilight has grown
19:11 <CleverDerpy> from filly who couldn't cast magic
19:11 <Tirek> And we really haven't seen what she's capable of doing on her own power.
19:11 <CleverDerpy> to amazing alicorn who can do some pretty fantastic things on her own
19:11 <DinkyDoo> No one said yet but Luna lost all her power to nightmare moon and the elements. So twilight is most likely a match.
19:11 <Tirek> Not lost, simple suppressed for a time.
19:11 <CleverDerpy> luna didn't lose that power
19:12 <CleverDerpy> I think it was crippled
19:12 <CleverDerpy> yeah
19:12 <Tirek> Eclipsed.
19:12 <Tirek> And she regained her strength back in less than a year.
19:12 <CleverDerpy> perfect word choice
19:12 <Luke_Aura> Twilight Sparkle OP please nerf:P!
19:12 <DinkyDoo> Stripped away her magic reserves had to recharge
19:12 <DinkyDoo> You know what I mean.
19:13 <Tirek> As I said, it took less than a year for her to return to her former strength.
19:14 <DinkyDoo> Also I'm noticing you left out changling queen on you list of talented individuals?
19:15 <Tirek> Not a pony.
19:15 <SkunkStripe> We've never really been given any decent way to measure the alicorn's power in the show. Aside from the whole lifting the sun and moon thing they've never done anything that it didn't seem like another pony could do. The only example I can think of is when Celestia cleared that mass hypnosis spell in one go
19:16 <DinkyDoo> But you had discord on the list??
19:16 <Schism> An alicorn-level failsafe spell. "My failsafe spell... failed?"
19:16 <Tirek> Also not a pony.
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19:16 <DinkyDoo> Yes but you had him on the list! !!!
19:16 <SkunkStripe> And its never been really clear wether Twilight could have been doing the spells she's doing now if she wasn't an alicorn
19:16 <Tirek> (2:07:44 PM) Tirek: Discord is immediately disqualified because not a pony.
19:16 <Luke_Aura> A spell FAILING!!?? I TOTALLY didnt see that coming!!
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19:17 <CleverDerpy> fair enough
19:17 <DinkyDoo> Also I think changlings count as ponies!
19:17 <Tirek> I don't.
19:17 <CleverDerpy> I gotta go
19:17 <Luke_Aura> Friendly changeling at the wedding
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19:17 <Luke_Aura> :)
19:17 <DinkyDoo> Look at them! They look like a pony that like saying thestral are just a bunch of bats?
19:17 * SilverSpeed offers Schism a muffin
19:18 <Angelion> They are not really ponies... if you think about what they eat and what they can make, its a bit different to regular ponies
19:18 <Luke_Aura> That friendly changeling wasnt kicked out of the wedding,
19:18 <Tirek> Do changelings have cutie marks?
19:18 <Angelion> That doesnt have to make him a pony
19:18 <SkunkStripe> no
19:18 <Tirek> Not a pony.
19:19 <DinkyDoo> So the CMC aren't ponies?
19:19 <Tirek> They'll earn a mark eventually.
19:19 <DinkyDoo> What odd looking lizards...
19:19 <Tirek> It's the capacity for having one.
19:19 <Tirek> Not simply not having one.
19:19 <Angelion> It was about getting kicked out, not about cutie marks, DinkyDoo
19:19 <Schism> !link species swap dragon
19:19 <DerpyBot> https://derpiboo.ru/644866
19:20 <Tirek> Besides, you're arguing semantics now.
19:20 <Tirek> Changelings aren't ponies -just- because they look kind of like them.
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19:20 <DinkyDoo> Changlings are like thestrals very different but still ponys i belive.
19:22 <SkunkStripe> I'd hate to play devils advocate but I do belive theres a card of somesort that does refer to changelings as a sort pony
19:23 <SkunkStripe> That said I still disagree entirely
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19:24 <SkunkStripe> https://derpibooru.org/916441?scope=scpef3266ae6a01ceaed3983a1dfade203553570e3c6
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19:25 <Angelion> From what Book is that?
19:25 <Angelion> Ok, nevermind
19:25 <DinkyDoo> https://i.imgur.com/wC1haTX.jpg
19:26 <Tirek> Thestrals -aren't- very different from regular ponies though.
19:26 <Tirek> Aside from leathery wings and slitted eyes, they're identical to pegasus ponies.
19:26 <Luke_Aura> Maybe ponyvile is begining to accept friendly changelings?
19:27 <Tirek> Changelings' differences are -far- more apparent.
19:27 <DinkyDoo> Fangs slit eyes ear tuffs leather wings.
19:27 <Tirek> Minor physical differences.
19:27 <Tirek> There's nothing minor about the physical differences of changelings.
19:28 <DinkyDoo> Changling eyes, bug wing, holes, chitin.
19:28 <Luke_Aura> Changelings just want to be loved. Is that a crime?
19:28 <Tirek> Yes.
19:28 <Luke_Aura> How?
19:28 <Tirek> Context is important.
19:29 <DinkyDoo> Notice the same amount of differences separating the changlings and thestrals from the other four types.
19:29 <Tirek> They put ponies in pods and suck them dry.
19:29 <Luke_Aura> That's the evil changelings
19:29 <DinkyDoo> Also kidnaping and harvesting counts as crime.
19:29 <Luke_Aura> And it's because their Queen told them to
19:29 <DinkyDoo> They treat other ponys like the matrix.
19:30 <Tirek> We don't -know- if there is a hive of good changelings. We only have one example of a changeling trying to exist in ponyville peacefully, and we don't even know the extent of their presence.
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19:31 <Luke_Aura> Yeah..
19:31 <DinkyDoo> Well yes changling don't need to kidnap others but they need love somehow for a few here and there is sustainable.
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19:31 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ugh...
19:31 <Luke_Aura> Only Phoniex Wright could defend them,
19:32 <Tirek> And he'd fail.
19:32 <DinkyDoo> Ugh?
19:32 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I reeeeally didn't like this episode at all
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19:32 <Angelion> wasnt that great, youre right
19:32 <Luke_Aura> He almost got MATT ENGARDE an not guilty verdict, which shows his skills
19:33 <Luke_Aura> I thought 100 was good
19:33 <Lenfant_Sauvage> 100 was amazing
19:33 <Lenfant_Sauvage> This was super contrived and boring
19:33 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Can't get into why for a few hours ofc but I've got my piece
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19:36 <SkunkStripe> I made a planet were most of the continents are bird shaped
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19:37 <Luke_Aura> BON BON's secrect was shocking
19:37 * SilverSpeed covers eyes
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19:38 <SkunkStripe> The secret is that she has a secret
19:39 <DinkyDoo> Hasn't seen the last episode.
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19:42 <Finwe> Lt Sausage!
19:42 <Finwe> o7
19:43 <DinkyDoo> Why did the dm time change?!
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19:43 <DinkyDoo> Huh why did dm get in there?!
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19:44 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I'm still used to thinking by Central Time standards, and it drops at 5 my time so :p
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19:49 <Finwe> *wigglesiggle*
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19:49 <SunsetAurora> .3.
19:50 <SunsetAurora> Well...
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19:52 <SilverSpeed> hay, KooK
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19:53 <KooK> Hey Silverspeed
20:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pinkie Tales: Applejack and the Beanstalk [ http://tinyurl.com/nwb7w7e ]
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20:38 <DARK> hello =)
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20:46 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ohi
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20:51 <SkunkStripe> So there wasn't any new P5 trailer, Atlus US just uploaded the same trailer again. Though there is sill rumor of a different trailer next week
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21:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Livestream Saturdays and Drawfriend [ http://tinyurl.com/nzsdbyw ]
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21:05 <Future> hi!
21:05 <SilverSpeed> Future!!!
21:05 * SilverSpeed cuddles Future
21:05 <Future> hey silver!
21:06 <Future> long time no see!
21:06 <SilverSpeed> indeed :D
21:06 <SilverSpeed> how r u? :D
21:06 <Future> good
21:06 <Future> u?
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21:07 <SilverSpeed> hmm
21:07 <SilverSpeed> nvmn fine :P
21:07 <Future> it's really hot today
21:07 <Future> O_O
21:07 <SilverSpeed> indeed
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21:07 <Future> it 107 yesterday
21:08 <SilverSpeed> :O
21:08 <Future> yeah i know!
21:08 <Future> anyway have you seen any of my pics on imgur?
21:08 <SilverSpeed> nope, :P
21:08 <SilverSpeed> link me :D
21:08 <Future> i'll try
21:09 <SilverSpeed> i've tried drawin...
21:09 <SilverSpeed> but...
21:09 <SilverSpeed> not good...
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21:10 <Future> i can't link right now
21:11 <SilverSpeed> :(
21:12 <Future> never mind got it!
21:12 <Future> http://imgur.com/BaAq0ob
21:13 <Future> http://imgur.com/Y9AeoNn
21:13 <Future> http://imgur.com/L4KGDrn
21:13 <Future> http://imgur.com/3zS2A4D
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21:14 <Future> http://imgur.com/N5f04hM
21:14 <Future> http://imgur.com/Lr3TVwY
21:14 <Future> http://imgur.com/betMej4
21:14 <SilverSpeed> oh my sweet celestia!
21:15 <SilverSpeed> dat's awesome!
21:15 <Future> http://imgur.com/qoFpDTV
21:15 <Future> that's all
21:15 <SilverSpeed> :O
21:16 <Future> i've made more pics
21:16 <Future> i can't post right now
21:16 <SilverSpeed> i see
21:16 <SilverSpeed> but those are just awesome
21:16 <Future> thanks! :D:$
21:17 <Future> i can't wait till the con!
21:17 <Future> it's going to be my first ever con
21:17 <SilverSpeed> as for me...
21:17 <SilverSpeed> i'm waiting for... huh...
21:18 <SilverSpeed> nothing actually my life is preety boring :T
21:18 <SilverSpeed> pretty*
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21:18 <Future> i'm sorry
21:18 <Cepheid> Well you should be.
21:18 <Cepheid> For... whatever it is you did. I dunno.
21:18 <Cepheid> I just got here.
21:18 * SilverSpeed cuddles Cepheid
21:18 <Future> hi!
21:19 <Future> he's bored
21:19 <Future> i think........
21:19 <SilverSpeed> no,
21:19 <Future> ok good!
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21:20 <Future> i'm going to see Black gryphon!!:P
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21:23 <LunaticHell> I'm sure I forgot something today, but I can't put my hoof on it.
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21:24 <SilverSpeed> hay, LunaticHell
21:24 <LunaticHell> mh...oh hi SilverSpeed, can you tell me what I forgot to do today?
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21:25 <SilverSpeed> hmm,
21:25 <LunaticHell> I've been playing a game, all. day. long.
21:25 <SilverSpeed> maybe, hugging somepony?
21:25 <SilverSpeed> oh
21:26 <LunaticHell> Yes, I forgot exactly that, well...I'm sure it has already been uploaded.
21:28 <LunaticHell> Well, youtube should be as good as it gets at this point.
21:28 <SilverSpeed> well, i always try to hug somepony, but it doesn't always ends well :(
21:28 <SilverSpeed> sometimes i get ignored
21:29 <SilverSpeed> sometimes others get mad (sometimes for real and sthap talking to me/talking little to me)
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21:35 <The_Legend_Of_Kala> haii
21:35 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ohi
21:35 <The_Legend_Of_Kala> i'm watching some american anime
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21:39 <Cepheid> It's so nice when a cat acknowledges you when you say something to it.
21:40 <Cepheid> <Me, to Spitfire> "Hey buddy." <Spitfire> "Mrrrw."
21:40 <Lenfant_Sauvage> American anime
21:40 <Lenfant_Sauvage> k
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21:41 <The_Legend_Of_Kala> i knw american anime doesnt exist technically
21:41 <The_Legend_Of_Kala> but its legend of korra
21:41 <Lenfant_Sauvage> It doesn't exist at all
21:41 <Lenfant_Sauvage> And LOK was Korean anyway
21:41 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Korean-animated I should say
21:43 <The_Legend_Of_Kala> its korean animated but everythign else is done in america
21:43 <Finwe> o3o
21:43 <The_Legend_Of_Kala> and its techincally an american show, just part of it was made in korea
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21:43 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Which means it's not an anime :p
21:43 * Finwe hats on Lenfant_Sauvage.
21:43 * Lenfant_Sauvage looks at Finwe. @w@
21:44 * Finwe stares at Lenfant_Sauvage as intensively as he can in hat form.
21:44 <Finwe> @.@
21:44 * Lenfant_Sauvage flops over. x3x
21:46 <LunaticHell> Done watching.
21:47 <LunaticHell> oh hi Finwe
21:47 <LunaticHell> Kala?
21:47 <Finwe> Mr LunaticHell.
21:47 * LunaticHell hugs a Finwe.
21:47 <The_Legend_Of_Kala> hi lunatic
21:48 <LunaticHell> Your name rings familiar, but my memory...well it does not ring...
21:48 * Finwe snuggles the LunaticHell.
21:48 * SilverSpeed sighs
21:48 <SilverSpeed> !hug
21:48 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3
21:48 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around SilverSpeed in a tight embrace
21:49 <LunaticHell> Now when have we met last time? That has to be some time ago, I recon.
21:51 <Cepheid> Crazy guy, the one who does the Fallout 3: Kill Everything run.
21:52 <LunaticHell> Sounds like a murder of fun.
21:52 <LunaticHell> As in "a lot".
21:52 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:52 <Cepheid> The guy's using that one launcher, the one that launches miscellaneous items, a lot.
21:53 <Cepheid> Currently he's using mutilated parts and such.
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21:54 <LunaticHell> So he's giving everyone a hand? How nice.
21:55 <LunaticHell> But I do think this requires a lot of "foot work", he better puts his head into it.
21:56 <LunaticHell> If he's not careful, he'll lose and arm and a leg, good thing he stocked up on those.
21:57 <LunaticHell> Ok, enough bad puns, but I do promise to throw an eye or three in his direction.
21:58 <Luke_Aura> !hug
21:58 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3
21:58 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around Luke_Aura in a tight embrace
21:58 * Luke_Aura smiles at the hug and hugs back
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21:59 <Cepheid> In the video I'm watching, he's clearing out Rivet City.
22:00 <Cepheid> Surprisingly there's a few unusual immortal characters. Lyon's Pride for example has a few immortal unnamed NPCs, while some of the named NPCs in the same group are not immortal.
22:00 <SkunkStripe> I never really understood what people got out of just killing citizens
22:00 <SkunkStripe> In ElderScrolls and Fallout I mean
22:01 <Cepheid> Loot.
22:01 <SkunkStripe> Well yeah theres that.
22:01 <Cepheid> And vengeance in some cases.
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22:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic #32 1:10 Retailer Incentive Cover Revealed! [ http://tinyurl.com/pc78hbe ]
22:06 <Cepheid> "Skuuulll? Skuuuulll?? Where's that skull I just fired?" XD
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22:13 <LunaticHell> Cepheid: I once fired a skull, he was supposed to fix my car and not try to take over the world and curse Captain America on his failings.
22:13 <LunaticHell> But then again, he is not a car mechanic...
22:14 <LunaticHell> Should have given Stark a call. *sigh*
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22:23 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.
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22:24 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ohi
22:28 <ElectricPsoras> Hi.
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22:31 <Thelema5> I sampled more than 30 local craft-brewed ciders today. 'Twas glorious!
22:32 <Thelema5> I also spoke with a bunch of cidermakers, and learned a lot.
22:32 <ElectricPsoras> I've just booked an Eurostar ticket, so I also feel pretty awesome.
22:32 <Cepheid> I had a pizza.
22:32 <Thelema5> That IS awesome, ElectricPsoras.
22:32 <Cepheid> So my day too is pretty awesome.
22:32 <Cepheid> Aside from the headache.
22:32 <Cepheid> But I'll cure that with medication and coffee.
22:32 <Thelema5> Pizza makes every day better.
22:33 <Cepheid> With the house (mostly) clean, I don't have anything to do today, either.
22:33 <Cepheid> I say it's mostly clean because I'm pretty sure my parents messed something up before they left.
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22:38 <The_Legend_Of_Kala> i just created a great fan theory and the second after i created it the series ruined it for me....
22:38 <Thelema5> :p
22:38 * SilverSpeed hugs Thelema5
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22:44 * Thelema5 hugs!
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22:46 <SgtPinkie> So... has anyone heard about the despicable thing antibronies did that I can't expressly mention in here?
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22:51 <Thelema5> Not I.
22:52 <Thelema5> "antibronies"? Is that like antimatter?
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22:52 <Angelion> Sometimes they act like that...
22:52 <KandiGhostcat> hi
22:53 <SilverSpeed> Thelema5 what's a brony? :c
22:53 <Thelema5> Angelion, who?
22:53 <Thelema5> A brony is someone who identifies as a brony.
22:53 <Angelion> Antibronies... like antimatter...not so important
22:54 <Angelion> because they are the opposite
22:54 <Thelema5> I must live in a different world; I've never encountered any opposition because of my choice of TV cartoon
22:55 <SgtPinkie> They photoshopped images of the Charleston shooters to make them resembles bronies
22:55 <SgtPinkie> Essentially blaming bronies for a horrible tragedy
22:56 <Thelema5> Sounds dumb.
22:56 <SgtPinkie> It is
22:56 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ShooterS?
22:56 <Thelema5> Yeah, it was just one guy.
22:56 <Angelion> Me neither, Thelema5, but they exist and they hate especially the fandom
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22:57 <Thelema5> Angelion, if someone has such a small and pathetic life that they concern themselves with the entertainment choices of others then I'm just sad for them.
22:57 <Thelema5> They don't really have any relevance.
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22:58 <SgtPinkie> They claim to be the real cause of Derpygate
22:58 <SgtPinkie> Somehow I doubt that
22:58 <Thelema5> SgtPinkie, sounds like some dumb troll with no particular influence.
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22:59 <Thelema5> Why would you concern yourself with it?
23:00 *** Lenfant_Sauvage changes topic to 'Welcome to EquestriaDaily! This is an ALL-AGES channel. | GUIDE: http://derpy.me/EqDRules | Type !list to download episodes | By Order of the Princess, the Spoiler Ban is Lifted!'
23:00 <SgtPinkie> Episode 101 suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu- was alright. Standard cartoon plot, but whatever
23:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1567 - Moonbutt Rises [ http://tinyurl.com/nwzkcc9 ]
23:00 <Lenfant_Sauvage> No, I'd agree it was pretty bad.
23:00 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yeah.
23:00 <Angelion> I dont, but the bad thing about it is, that they partly are very extrem and even would harm people for that, Thelema5
23:01 <Lenfant_Sauvage> How many times are we seriously going to see "[insert character ruins entire party/meeting/etc, forgiven in five seconds?]
23:01 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> It was above average when it comes to some relations to Events and Conventions.
23:01 <Thelema5> I don't care for any spike-centric episodes, and this one was especially facehoof worthy
23:01 <Lenfant_Sauvage> And all this time Twilight doesn't have advisors, nor does she have a second for if she's incapacitated as she was here?
23:01 <Lenfant_Sauvage> They had to put ALL decision making on a baby dragon?
23:02 <Thelema5> Right?
23:02 <SgtPinkie> That whole Spike feeling jealous of Twilight or whatever came out of nowhere
23:02 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yeah.
23:02 <KandiGhostcat> my eyes ache and my head hurts.
23:02 <Thelema5> I'll probably never bother watching this episode again.
23:02 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I dunno if "jealous" is the right word... he's not jealous of Twilight, but of her title
23:02 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Because he wants people to notice him(?)
23:02 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Why?
23:02 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I don't know
23:02 <Angelion> He didnt feel jealous about her, he just wanted to be useful in the way she is, too
23:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> It's another instance where they invent problems for Spike that have no real prior basis
23:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ... AGAIN with that, though?
23:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> We went through that with Power Ponies
23:03 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I don't know.
23:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> The only reason he doesn't seem useful is because we never see him DO ANYTHING
23:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Because he's NEVER THERE
23:03 <Thelema5> No, he wanted to be important. but he's not. Importance is earned, not demanded.
23:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Which is all well and good
23:03 <Thelema5> TRUE.
23:04 <Lenfant_Sauvage> But gawd, this was a sloggy way to do so
23:04 <Thelema5> Yeah, it wasn't enjoyable. Another cringeworthy spike episode.
23:04 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I'd call it an unmemorable one in my book.
23:05 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Pretty much
23:05 <Thelema5> I wish they would do a spike slice of life video, showing his usual, daily struggles... rather than making him the butt of the joke
23:05 <SgtPinkie> at least Power Ponies had a lot of memetic things to make it sorta popular, this had....
23:05 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Except, Fargo Pony.
23:05 <SgtPinkie> ^. It had that
23:05 <Thelema5> Because his daily struggles are probably a lot more interesting than "Spike over-reaches and falls flat".
23:06 <KandiGhostcat> i need to go eat dinner.
23:06 <Thelema5> Was it a reference to fargo, directly? Or just Minnasottans?
23:06 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I don't mind the kind of storyline where it's like "Hey, I wanna do everything big sis/mom does because she's important n' stuff"
23:06 * Thelema5 has no idea how to spell that
23:06 <Lenfant_Sauvage> That's fine
23:06 <Lenfant_Sauvage> But you can't do that while also abandoning logic
23:06 <SgtPinkie> Is Owl's Well a controversial ep?
23:06 <Thelema5> Agreed.
23:07 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Thelema5, I think it is a Fargo Reference.
23:07 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I actually think Owl's Well is one of his BEST
23:07 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Because it expands his and twilight's relationship beyond "I do stuff for her because uh"
23:07 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Profit?
23:07 <Lenfant_Sauvage> My biggest issue with this, and it ties into why I like Owl's Well
23:08 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I've always seen Spike and Twilight as, if not mother and son, Nona(?) and LIlo from Lilo&Stitch
23:08 <SgtPinkie> *Nani
23:08 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I thought it was Nani at first, wasn't 100% sure, thx
23:08 <Lenfant_Sauvage> But anyway, I /love/ that pairing in children's media, it doesn't get explored enough and you can do great things with it
23:08 <Angelion> She kind of is, when you think about it
23:09 <Lenfant_Sauvage> But they keep bouncing off this one-sided "assistant!" angle and they've run out of things to do with him now that Twilight has such responsibility... they're right, Spike CAN'T do much for her anymore now
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23:09 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I'm just wonder what is with the Delegation meetings.
23:09 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Which now kind of makes this episode more sad than anything else...
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23:12 <Thelema5> I was excited with the idea of all of these ponies coming together from all over equestria, and feel cheated that we didn't really get to explore them at all.
23:12 <Lenfant_Sauvage> We even got a griffon, which... in retrospect seems really odd
23:12 <Thelema5> Sure does.
23:12 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yeah.
23:13 <Angelion> Why do you think
23:13 <Angelion> ?
23:13 <Thelema5> So, is this Hasbro's attempt at incorporating con-culture?
23:13 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Did they really reach that much improvement with Griffonstone that fast to be have a delegate?
23:13 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Because I think that should've been Gilda.
23:14 <Angelion> I thought they are and have been a part of equestria all the time?
23:14 <Thelema5> Would have made more sense, Lenfant_Sauvage.
23:14 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Who knows how often these things took place but I was under the impression Griffonstone was kind of not in any condition to elect a leader to represent themselves
23:14 <Thelema5> Angelion, they fell into isolationism following the loss of the Idol of Gryffonstone.
23:14 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Then again maybe they just sent someone other than Gilda and at this point they're ready to accept outside help, I'unno
23:15 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Like she told a trusted griffon to speak on their behalf
23:15 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> They could just say screw it and randomly picked a griffon to go.
23:15 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Which would be a kind of neat progression of her character, but that's pulling a lot of straws
23:15 <Thelema5> That would suggest that she's made an awful lot of progress in a very short time.
23:16 <Lenfant_Sauvage> If we interpret each episode as happening in perfect chronological order
23:16 <Thelema5> Well yeah.
23:16 <Thelema5> I usually do, although I know some pones sort them differently.
23:16 <Thelema5> I'll accept that when we get a new episode with unicorn Twilight.
23:17 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Time does definitely progress forward, and there are episodes that must happen after others, but this could have taken place months after Lost Treasure
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23:17 <Lenfant_Sauvage> And then next episode happened three months before Princess Spike, etc
23:17 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Maybe.
23:18 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Hmm...
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23:18 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I'm wondering how each State of Equestria picks their Delegates.
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23:19 <Angelion> Who was the delegate from Ponyville?
23:19 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Um.
23:19 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Matilda?
23:20 <SgtPinkie> Are we allowed to mention the leaked episode list?
23:20 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> No.
23:20 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I can infer Fluffy Clouds was a delegate for Cloudsdale.
23:20 <Thelema5> Odd that PONYville would send a donkey, but I guess that speak volumes about diversity in equestria.
23:20 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Absolutely not.
23:21 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ...
23:21 <Angelion> Because i thought that i saw .... whats her name? Colgate?
23:21 <Lenfant_Sauvage> OH YEAH, I COMPLETELY FORGOT
23:21 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Where the flying hell did Matilda come from?
23:21 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I don't know!
23:21 <SgtPinkie> I think canonically it's Minty or something
23:21 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Minuette
23:21 <SgtPinkie> Ah
23:22 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Speaking of old pones, it's at least good that we saw Fancy Pants again, I've missed him
23:22 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I saw one of the Villans of Rainbow Rocks as a pony in the episode.
23:23 <Thelema5> Who, nossy?
23:23 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I don't know.
23:23 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Nossy was the villain this whole time.
23:23 * Lenfant_Sauvage puts Nossy in a box hastily labeled "JAYUL SELL".
23:24 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Ahhh!!!
23:24 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/poohadventures/images/1/12/The_Dazzlings_singing_together_EG2.png/revision/latest?cb=20140729203200
23:24 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> The one in the middle.
23:24 <Thelema5> I know that the legal system in Equestria seems to be "apologize, and all is forgotten"... but Spike really should have been disiplined in this ep.
23:24 <Thelema5> This is why nopony every learns.
23:25 <Thelema5> *ever
23:25 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Oh yeah, let's bring a dragon to a place that has dragonsneeze trees everywhere and make sure he has access to the very fragile gem statue k guys
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23:26 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Let's also not postpone the delegation a day...
23:27 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Lenfant_Sauvage, it is like Dashcon.
23:27 <Lenfant_Sauvage> But even worse, a DISTINCT lack of ball pits.
23:27 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Why do I have a feeling my crock pot will explode in any minute.
23:28 <Thelema5> Crock pots don't explode. You're thinking of pressure cookers, no?
23:28 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Nope.
23:28 <Thelema5> Huh. Is it filled with trinitrotoluele?
23:28 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Cooking a pot roast in the Crock pot.
23:29 <Thelema5> Mmmm.
23:29 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Triniwhatnow?
23:29 <Thelema5> TNT
23:29 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> XD
23:29 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Tortellini?
23:29 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Tatooine?
23:29 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Tennisballs?
23:29 <Lenfant_Sauvage> TORTILLAS?!
23:29 * Lenfant_Sauvage dives into the crock pot to gather the treasure.
23:30 * Lenfant_Sauvage just as quickly jets off, making comical "Ow! Ow!" vocalizations along the way.
23:30 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Hmm.
23:31 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> What is the next episode called?
23:31 <SgtPinkie> http://i.imgur.com/kg5HWBv.jpg Until someone steps in wearing normal clothes and sues for hypothermia
23:31 <SgtPinkie> The_Nostalgia_Mare: Party Pooped
23:31 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Hehe.
23:31 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> You said Party.
23:32 <SgtPinkie> Hm. Lovely.
23:32 <Lenfant_Sauvage> THat's Nick Confalone's, right?
23:32 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Or was it this one?
23:32 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> No.
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23:32 <bms2993> hi
23:32 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Let me chekc.
23:32 <SgtPinkie> It's Party Pooped
23:32 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> *check.
23:33 <bms2993> day one of using my non-smartphone
23:33 <bms2993> im still alive
23:33 <bms2993> that is all
23:33 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> It is Neal Dusedau.
23:33 <Angelion> Why are there so many different writers in the show?
23:33 <SgtPinkie> Another new guy?
23:33 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Yeah
23:34 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Ok. I love it how this season shows Twilight is snuggling something when she sleeps.
23:34 <bms2993> napkin
23:34 * Thelema5 Goes to eat dinner
23:34 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Yet she is not napkin.
23:34 <Lenfant_Sauvage> She is pancake.
23:34 *** Thelema5 is now known as Thelema5|noms
23:34 * bms2993 eats dinner to go
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23:35 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> This season is now the Sleeping Twilight Season.
23:35 <Lysimachus> Yeah
23:35 <Lysimachus> Twilight just sleeps until the end of the season now
23:35 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Actually, that's ... wait a minute
23:35 <Lysimachus> she's not coming back until the finale
23:35 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Nossy just brought up an amazing point
23:35 <Lenfant_Sauvage> She's had two episodes focused on her in some fashion this season - Castle Sweet Castle and this one
23:35 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yes! \o3o/
23:35 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Where her actual stance as Princess of Friendship is the focus
23:36 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Both of these times SHE'S NOT EVEN THE MAIN CHARACTER
23:36 <Lysimachus> That cloud pony guy really can't make a decision
23:36 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Princess of Sleep she is. And named Pancake.
23:36 <Lysimachus> HEY FANCYPANTS
23:36 <Lysimachus> AWESOME
23:36 <Lysimachus> Princess of Pancake
23:36 <Lysimachus> OK spike is in charge, everything must go wrong
23:36 <Lysimachus> It's the law
23:37 <Lysimachus> I AM THE LAW
23:37 * Lenfant_Sauvage is the lar.
23:37 * Night_Blitz nests on Lenfant_Sauvage
23:37 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Lenfant_Sauvage is the len.
23:37 <Lysimachus> dat eyeflutter
23:37 <Lysimachus> oh my god spike
23:37 <Lysimachus> every homobrony this side of equestria is going to be smitten
23:38 * Lenfant_Sauvage wiggles a bit, settles. Is now best benchpone.
23:38 <Lysimachus> He's so authorative ._.
23:38 *** Princess-QRS is now known as Quers-Mowing
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23:39 <SilverSpeed> ok i'm here did i missed something?
23:40 <Lysimachus> eh.. what were you hoping not to miss?
23:40 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I became benchpone?
23:40 <Lysimachus> Is this channel spoilers OK?
23:40 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I'm the villian.
23:41 <SgtPinkie> Know who should have been at the wedding?
23:41 <Lenfant_Sauvage> We've let you spout on about the episode this whole time haven't we? You've been good for the past forty minutes. :p
23:41 <SilverSpeed> i'm hpping to miss spoilers, and not to miss hugs :3
23:41 <SilverSpeed> hoping*
23:41 <SgtPinkie> http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg78/evalana/blog/MLPfim_ep0439.png That guy, from Applebuck Season
23:41 <Lenfant_Sauvage> We're past Spoiler Ban time, SilverSpeed, and tbh you didn't miss anything important
23:41 <SilverSpeed> :O
23:42 <SgtPinkie> [Joke that I probably shouldn't say]
23:43 <Lysimachus> Isn't spike like meant to be a an 11 year old boy?
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23:43 <Lysimachus> why would anyone leave spike in charge of anything
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23:43 <SgtPinkie> Because plot device
23:43 <Cepheid> Good to teach children about responsibility.
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23:43 <Lysimachus> That's true.
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23:43 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Can we do that with
23:43 <Lenfant_Sauvage> you know
23:43 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Twilight
23:43 <Lenfant_Sauvage> and not Spike pls
23:44 <Lysimachus> Yeah spike is something of an awful character.
23:44 <Lysimachus> He's really Not Likeable.
23:45 <Angelion> i kinda like him... mot as much as the mane six, but i like him
23:45 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Which is a shame, because there's so much potential in the character
23:45 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I like him a lot, but the Mane 6 have moved on faster than he has
23:45 <wobniaR> I like Spike, it was still an amusing episode but yeah this episode wasn't perfect
23:45 <Lysimachus> I dunno.
23:46 <Lysimachus> Everytime he's on screen his selfishness gets the better of him.
23:46 <Lysimachus> They should rename him Cautionary Tale.
23:46 <Lenfant_Sauvage> His original intent is pretty much gone at this point, the show hasn't really decided what's to be expected of him since Twilight got her new accoutrements
23:46 <wobniaR> Dragon greed
23:46 <Lenfant_Sauvage> So they keep waffling around with these really contrived storylines
23:46 <wobniaR> He's mature some episodes and a kid in others, he's still a baby dragon
23:47 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Either give us a story as to how he has to adapt to his new life (which they didn't really do in this episode) or explore his dragon side
23:47 <wobniaR> This was far from a Spike at your service episode
23:47 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Because the latter is still a whole boiling pot of questions that's barely been addressed
23:47 <wobniaR> We had dragon quest that did that
23:47 <Lysimachus> Dragon Quest was odd
23:47 <Lysimachus> It was like Spikes Maturity Hour but he can never grow up because of his character
23:48 <wobniaR> The lesson was legit, just cause he's a dragon doesn't mean he has to act like one
23:48 <Lysimachus> I agree that yeah, there's no real focus to his character apart from destructive idiot at this point
23:48 <Lysimachus> That seems like Rainbow
23:48 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Which was done in Secret of my Success
23:48 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Which was done in Dragon Quest
23:48 <Lysimachus> They seem to be writing a lot of characters as Destructive Idiot for lack of any other ideas
23:48 <wobniaR> It's a cartoon dude
23:48 <wobniaR> They act silly for comedic effect
23:48 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Then clearly the comedic effect isn't working
23:49 <Lysimachus> Yeah
23:49 <wobniaR> I found it funny, it works for me
23:49 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Soon as the spoiler ban dropped about five or six people in ehre werelike "Nah, this wasn't very good"
23:49 <wobniaR> There were quite a few amusing amounts of the episode
23:49 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Half of us were just tired of Spike as a whole
23:49 <Lysimachus> Yeah I haven't laughed a single time in this
23:49 <Lysimachus> I just think spike is a jerk
23:50 <Lenfant_Sauvage> The story /made sense/ and there was legitimacy to it but there was just so much that had to be bent the wrong way for the story to work
23:50 <Lysimachus> The thing is, him actually getting ice cream and massages and cupcakes was actually LESS destructive than countermanding orders.
23:50 <Lenfant_Sauvage> So many really stupid assumptions and contrivances
23:50 <Lysimachus> If all he'd done was just have some Spike Time on orders of the princess, everything would have been fine. But he interrupted stuff, out of trying to uphold his orders.
23:51 <Lysimachus> So the moral doesn't really work. he didn't stop a water main to make himself feel good.
23:51 * Night_Blitz overanalyzes Lenfant_Sauvage, ends up floofing and continues nesting on them
23:51 <Lysimachus> He got a massage, which was like, totally fine. That didn't cause any drama. What's a massage here or there.
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23:51 <wobniaR> He took advantage of the power the word of the princess gave him
23:51 <Lysimachus> This whole thing with all the ponies putting their gems in the right places is actually the best bit of the show.
23:51 <wobniaR> Because people treated him as some commoner
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23:52 <Lenfant_Sauvage> But that's the whole thing
23:52 <wobniaR> Even though an entire empire adores and praises him
23:52 <Lysimachus> Yeah, but my point is when he messed up everything, he wasn't doing it to make himself feel good.
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23:52 <Lysimachus> He was just an idiot who didn't know the measure of how far to take his order.
23:52 <Lysimachus> Free cupcakes doesn't smash statues guys.
23:52 <Lenfant_Sauvage> My problem is that they had NO PLAN for if Twilight couldn't be present
23:52 <Lysimachus> Yeah, it's like Twilight herself is the contingency plan.
23:52 <Lenfant_Sauvage> And then Spike pops up and is all like "I'LL BE BEST DRAGON NA" and the others don't think for a minute that this might be a stupid idea?
23:52 <wobniaR> Pretty much
23:52 <Lysimachus> "Hey I've got a strat! Twilight can handle it!"
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23:53 <wobniaR> 3 day convention everyone relies on Twilight to do everything
23:53 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ^
23:53 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ^
23:53 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ^
23:53 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ^
23:53 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I can't stress how dumb that is
23:53 <wobniaR> She probably took up all the responsibility herself
23:53 <wobniaR> To take some off the other princesses and because how OCD she is
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23:54 <Lenfant_Sauvage> The other five girls didn't help? Neither of the princesses?
23:54 <wobniaR> Celestia & Luna were the con chairs
23:54 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Was she really so disheveled that she had to stay up for two straight nights to finish it up?
23:54 <Lysimachus> Nawh just left it to twilight
23:54 <Lysimachus> It reminded me of that deleted scene for the season 4 finale
23:54 <Lenfant_Sauvage> So in that regard some of the blame should have been put on the other princesses as well
23:54 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Not just Spike
23:54 <Lysimachus> Oh yeah totally
23:55 <Angelion> What i liked about that episode, was that luna was the first princess who actually said something... normally its just Celestia and Luna says nothing
23:55 <Lysimachus> this whole thing was cadences fault
23:55 <Lysimachus> YEAH
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23:55 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Luna: "DELEGATION!" *exit*
23:55 <Lysimachus> MOON HORSE
23:55 <Lysimachus> also that thing about "all of our own small parts add up to something great"
23:55 <Lysimachus> I really liked that
23:55 <Angelion> THat as good , too
23:55 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Especially when we have Twilight do all the small parts
23:55 <Lysimachus> That was a great cohesive and sensible moral that totally made sense and was really in keeping with the show
23:55 <Lenfant_Sauvage> woops
23:55 <Lysimachus> But the thing is, spike abusing his power to buy cupcakes didn't cause any problems
23:56 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Oh, also, no one said a word to Cadence about Spike demanding those dumb things?
23:56 <Lysimachus> So infact it would have been BETTER if he'd simply ignored his job from the start, and just went to massage parlour
23:56 <Angelion> Thats not the point, he did abuse the powers to get what he wanted
23:56 <wobniaR> They assumed he was talking for Twilight
23:56 <Lysimachus> Yeah, but my point is that was not what caused the problem
23:56 <Lysimachus> If he'd just done nothing but got free ice cream, everything would have been fine
23:57 <Lysimachus> It was when he tried to do the right thing that everything screwed up.
23:57 <Lenfant_Sauvage> But that wouldn't have solved anything with the trees and the water main
23:57 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Ignoring the issues would have been just as bad
23:57 <Lysimachus> well yeah it would
23:57 <Lysimachus> they would have been fixed
23:57 <Lysimachus> and nothing would have been destroyed
23:57 <Lenfant_Sauvage> I...
23:57 <Lenfant_Sauvage> ... yeah you're right
23:57 <Lysimachus> If he'd just said "hey cool I can get free stuff now" and ignored those guys, everything would be totally cool
23:58 <Lenfant_Sauvage> He was still power-hungry at that point, he relished being the authoritarian
23:58 <KandiGhostcat> i'm back
23:58 <Lysimachus> so the actual moral is totally nonsensical, the real moral he should have said was "I tried to do stuff that was way above my pay grade and it ended badly because I am an incompetent"
23:58 <Angelion> But that would already have gone too far already,
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23:58 <Angelion> Ups..
23:58 * Cepheid puts on an ant suit. "I'm a superhero! I shall call myself... The Vigilant One!"
23:58 <Lenfant_Sauvage> That was kind of the moral anyway, it was just sort of said differently
23:58 <Lysimachus> yeah
23:58 <Lysimachus> I dunno
23:58 <Lysimachus> the whole thing was a pudding
23:59 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Pretty much
23:59 <Lenfant_Sauvage> The moral could've been anything, the story was structured bad, Spike is a jerk/doofus/dumbass again, bad episode was bad
23:59 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Twilight is asleep again during a Princess of Friendship episode...
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