Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Thursday, 2015-07-30

00:00 <Gladiolus> The thing with Windows 10 is like, it still has problems, it's far from perfect.

00:00 <RightHoofGone> Nice to know though

00:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1604 - Legendary Stick-Head Ponies [ http://tinyurl.com/pzerzz9 ]

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00:00 <Gladiolus> But it is no worse than older windows, and is certainly better, and therefore upgrade.

00:00 <RightHoofGone> very true

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00:01 <Gladiolus> I spend a lot of time right now slapping down stupid things. It has problems, but focus on those instead of making stuff up like IF YOU TURN CORTANA ON, GASP, THE SYSTEM MONITORS YOUR MICROPHONE!111

00:02 <RightHoofGone> if I used it daily I would have already updated

00:02 <RightHoofGone> even not I have the preview

00:03 <RightHoofGone> that isnt completely made up, just insignificant

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00:05 <RightHoofGone> and not really a problem, just a dirrect consequence of any assistant

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00:22 <Schism> Also, yes, that hint for the solution of that riddle was absolutely insane.

00:22 <Schism> Normal people can't decipher morse code at full speed!  :<

00:22 * Schism curls up anyway for a few hours. It's way too hot.

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00:35 <KandiGhostcat> hi

00:35 <RightHoofGone> howdy KandiGhostcat

00:36 <KandiGhostcat> hi right

00:36 <KandiGhostcat> i dont know what to eat for dinner. my throat has been feeling weird since yesterday.

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00:37 <KandiGhostcat> its either allergies or a small sore throat.

00:37 <RightHoofGone> same here

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00:38 <RightHoofGone> I go with allergies till proven wrong

00:40 <KandiGhostcat> ice cream and water doesnt help me

00:40 <KandiGhostcat> or my throat i should say

00:41 <KandiGhostcat> no tea, no ginger, i dont know what to do then.

00:42 <RightHoofGone> usually waiting helps

00:43 <RightHoofGone> either it passes or doesn't

00:43 <RightHoofGone> not much to do before then

00:44 <KandiGhostcat> if we have veggie broth i'll just heat it up

00:45 <RightHoofGone> sounds good, broth is delicious and easy to eat

00:45 <KandiGhostcat> well its not to eat. just to drink

00:45 <KandiGhostcat> as i think it'd be better if i had something hot in my throat

00:46 <KandiGhostcat> might clear it up

00:46 <RightHoofGone> eh, I call it eating, but as motion, yes, drinking.

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00:48 <marking> if you add cabbage to it you can munch on something while you drink it

00:50 <KandiGhostcat> Come on! :'( How many things do we NOT have.

00:51 <RightHoofGone> ^ I say that a lot

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00:51 <KandiGhostcat> theres nothing for my throat now.

00:51 <KandiGhostcat> but stupid water

00:51 <RightHoofGone> we go the store not very often

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00:58 <Librarian> i found a very neat online course for drawing

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00:58 <Librarian> its closed :'(

00:58 <Librarian> buggy hug me

00:59 * RightHoofGone hoofs Librarian some pie

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01:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Luna Book Gets a Title - "Princess Luna and the Festival of the Winter Moon" [ http://tinyurl.com/ntkdnf6 ]

01:02 <Librarian> i found a lot of books about drawing

01:02 <Librarian> i have 3 weeks free so i should get better

01:02 <Librarian> any artist who could give me tips?

01:02 <Librarian> or encouragment

01:02 <Librarian> or a cookie!

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01:04 * CloudChaser hugs Thelema5

01:04 * Thelema5 squees and hugs!

01:04 <marking> ENCOURAGEMENT!

01:04 <marking> GO!

01:04 <Thelema5> Librarian, I didn't know you drew.

01:04 <RightHoofGone> Just do it a lot, and you'll get there

01:04 <Librarian> sort of

01:04 <Librarian> i can copy alright

01:04 <Librarian> lemme show you

01:05 <Thelema5> Careful, Marking.  Too many lines of caps and the channel bot will kick you.

01:05 <KandiGhostcat> can you heat up almond milk? or will that make you vomit by doing that?

01:05 <marking> Librarian you were the one who asked for a picture of a redheaded mare right?

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01:05 <Librarian> yeah, i was depresses

01:05 <marking> you left and I was unable to give it to you

01:05 <Thelema5> I imagine that almond milk would be fine to consume warmed... but why would you want to?

01:06 <KandiGhostcat> because my throat feels weird

01:06 <marking> Blegh, almond milk.

01:06 <KandiGhostcat> and we dont have tea, ginger, or veggie broth

01:06 <Librarian> http://cronistjamoreno.deviantart.com/art/Goddessess-of-Chaos-535142972

01:06 <Librarian> i made that

01:06 <marking> http://pre09.deviantart.net/7d61/th/pre/f/2015/207/0/1/for_librarian_by_xxmarkingxx-d92yyps.png

01:06 <marking> her librarian, this is for you

01:07 <Librarian> thank you

01:07 <RightHoofGone> I bought some hazelnut milk once; that was good

01:07 <Librarian> imma call her durandal

01:07 <Thelema5> That's much better than I could do, Librarian.

01:07 <Librarian> i want to able to draw my own ideas

01:07 <Librarian> and im bored, so two birds one stone

01:07 <Thelema5> I actually prefer almond milk to dairy milk.

01:07 <Librarian> almond milk is to sweet

01:07 <marking> I like regular milk to almond milk

01:07 <Librarian> bleegh

01:07 <marking> two worlds

01:08 <RightHoofGone> I don't drink much milk

01:08 <Thelema5> Librarian, they sell unsweetened, which is what I prefer.

01:08 <marking> but how are you going to get your calcium

01:08 <marking> ?

01:08 <RightHoofGone> Just don't like it mmuch

01:08 <KandiGhostcat> so i decided to ask if almond milk would be fine to heat up

01:08 <marking> you need it for the skeleton wars

01:08 <Thelema5> I don't know why in the world they would sweeten it.

01:08 <Librarian> eat chalck

01:08 <Thelema5> marking, almond milk contains more calcium than dairy milk.

01:08 <KandiGhostcat> since its not animal based milk

01:08 <RightHoofGone> almond milk was meh

01:08 <marking> darn

01:09 <Librarian> i want some drawing books

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01:09 <Thelema5> You should try unsweeted, unflavored.

01:09 <marking> still almond milk is good for a sip or two

01:09 <RightHoofGone> but I don't enjoy almonds much

01:09 <marking> perhaps flavoring coffee

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01:09 <Thelema5> I only use it for breakfast cereal.

01:09 <RightHoofGone> I really did like the hazelnut milk though

01:09 <marking> I still think it would be too much

01:09 <marking> hazelnut milk sounds interesting

01:10 <Thelema5> I've never seen hazelnut milk.

01:10 <marking> but I never did like hacelnuts

01:10 <RightHoofGone> so perhaps almond milk is worth trying

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01:10 <Thelema5> It makes me think of a series of skits on Portlandia..

01:10 <KandiGhostcat> theres a lot of different plant based milks

01:10 <RightHoofGone> they don't sell it much

01:10 <KandiGhostcat> soy, hazelnut, cashew, almond, etc.

01:11 <RightHoofGone> my dad works at Central Market and he bought some

01:11 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/xkqUYd8sLLI

01:11 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

01:11 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Portlandia - Milk Advisory Board

01:12 <RightHoofGone> the almond milk WAS flavored. so perhaps that's it

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01:12 <Librarian> i clicked the wrong thing

01:12 <Thelema5> :p

01:12 <Librarian> i is silly

01:13 <Librarian> silly fluffy babbeh

01:14 * Gladiolus hugs Librarian :3

01:14 <Gladiolus> You asked if a Macbook could play XCOM 2 earlier.

01:14 <Librarian> yep

01:14 <Gladiolus> The answer was- depends on the model, the ones with a dedicated GPU are /very/ expensive, and the others are unlikely to run it well.

01:14 <Librarian> i have

01:14 <Gladiolus> Just buy a desktop.

01:14 <Librarian> this one

01:15 <Gladiolus> i can't see your computer :I

01:15 <marking> I want to go to hawaii some day

01:15 <Librarian> https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=macbook+pro&view=detailv2&&id=6ED23B42CF69234603E9E7C63D18EC619245C12A&selectedIndex=0&ccid=RPpGs8UL&simid=608052011248781961&thid=JN.WMEfMchgVe6EqnkkfT%2bepg&ajaxhist=0

01:15 <Librarian> aloha maho

01:15 <Librarian> schutz

01:15 <Gladiolus> uh

01:15 <Gladiolus> that explains literally 0 things lol

01:15 <Librarian> learned that from gabriel igelsisa

01:15 <Gladiolus> tell me the model # or the year or something

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01:16 <Librarian> second most recent one

01:17 <Gladiolus> uh

01:17 <Gladiolus> Seriously man I need more than that.

01:17 <Gladiolus> Go into OSX, click the apple menu, and tell me the model.

01:17 * Thelema5 gives Gladiolus moar

01:17 <marking> isnt mahu a derogatory term?

01:17 * Gladiolus eats it

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01:22 <Librarian> not sure

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01:22 <Librarian> i belive not, might be wrong

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01:22 <Librarian> at least shutz is yea

01:23 <Librarian> and they say roger that a lot

01:23 <Librarian> or so they tell me

01:23 <Thelema5> Librarian, what is the most popular bottled hot pepper sauce in your region?  What would I expect to see on the table in a local restaurant, for instance?

01:23 <Librarian> depnds on the place

01:24 <Librarian> a proper taco place has the salsa in a bowl

01:24 <Librarian> there should be many bowls

01:25 <Librarian> with differing hotness

01:25 <Thelema5> Right, but I mean a table sauce, like Valentina Salsa Picante

01:25 <Librarian> i reiterate, depends

01:25 <Thelema5> :p

01:25 <Librarian> in some supermakerts they sell stupid hot sauce

01:25 <Thelema5> Okay.  Well I'm putting an order together so if you think of a favorite let me know.  :p

01:26 <Librarian> try valnetina muy picante

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01:26 <Librarian> black label

01:26 <marking> try habanero

01:26 <Librarian> you can clean metal with that

01:26 <Librarian> i have done it

01:26 <Gladiolus> Librarian, are you using your macbook?

01:26 <marking> awesome

01:27 <Librarian> nope

01:27 <marking> tapatio sauce is amazing with breakfast

01:27 <Thelema5> marking, I've sampled more than 120 different habanero sauces, and am looking for new ones all the time.

01:27 <Gladiolus> well when you get a chance figure out the year for it and i can tell you if xcom 2 will work well

01:27 <Gladiolus> until then i can't really say

01:27 <marking> and india brava is great with machaca

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01:27 <Librarian> ill ckeck and get back to you

01:27 <Gladiolus> o3o

01:27 * Gladiolus sits on Librarian

01:27 <Gladiolus> o4o

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01:28 <Thelema5> Librarian, this one? http://www.salsaexpress.com/p-4482-el-yucateco-black-label-reserve-chile-habanero-hot-sauce.aspx?gclid=CPDXwavMgccCFVUlgQodHUkHNg#.VblvhbNViko

01:28 <marking> my sister has a small little bottle of hot sauce with her at all times

01:28 <Librarian> never tried it,looks good

01:28 <Librarian> i emant this one

01:29 <Librarian> https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=slasa+valentina+negra&view=detailv2&&id=E986F7DBE753D529D3DC638F8942E245953F2A76&selectedIndex=4&ccid=ptP3R9pk&simid=608045852260369722&thid=JN.tWdzkjdW4oIn1zrOuN7SRw&ajaxhist=0

01:29 <Thelema5> Aaah, perfect.  Thanks!

01:29 <Librarian> the metal part i swear its real

01:30 <Librarian> you might also look for salsa de molcajete

01:30 <Librarian> or salsa molcajeteada

01:30 <Librarian> those are great

01:30 <Librarian> you know those thingies medics uses to grind stuff

01:30 <Librarian> the litlle bowl

01:30 <Fall> Mortar and pestle.

01:31 <Librarian> thank you

01:31 <Librarian> in mexico we have the same setup, just way bigger and made of volcanic stone

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01:31 <Librarian> we make salsa with it

01:31 <Librarian> its tasty

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01:32 <Librarian> thelema, by the way, if you can. buy rancheritos and dip it with your favorite sauce

01:32 <Thelema5> That looks delicious, Librarian.  I've a mortal and pestle, and will give this a try!

01:32 <Librarian> rancheritos are like doritos, but way more spicy

01:32 <Librarian> perosnal favorite of mine

01:33 <Thelema5> I've seen them in local mexican groceries.  I'll be sure to give them a try!

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01:35 <Cepheid> Hmm?  I'll have to see if I can find those this far North.

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01:36 <Cepheid> Well, more like "finding it in this city."

01:37 * RightHoofGone is waiting till you can send food via email

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01:37 <Librarian> nowim craving some

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01:37 <Cepheid> Canada is pretty multicultural, so finding Mexican foods isn't hard, if you live in one of the big cities of Canada.

01:39 <Cepheid> Ottawa not being one of those cities, as far as I'm concerned.

01:39 * Gladiolus paints Ottawa orange.

01:39 <Gladiolus> o 3 o

01:39 <Thelema5> I'm lucky to live close enough to New York City to have next day delivery from small delis and groceries catering to nearly every cultural and ethnic group

01:39 * Gladiolus blinks.

01:39 <Gladiolus> Delivery from a deli!?

01:39 * Gladiolus blinkblink

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01:40 <Thelema5> A lot of them will ship non-perishables, like dry-cured sausages

01:40 <Librarian> im hungry now

01:40 <wobniaR> Yeah there's also seamless in the city now, or grubhub and stuff

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01:40 <wobniaR> If you have the money it's easy to get access to fresh food delivery

01:40 <LunaticHell> mornin' equestria

01:40 <Cepheid> Ottawa is a bland and boring city, Gladiolus.

01:40 <Cepheid> Avoid it.  Go to Toronto or Montreal instead.

01:40 <Cepheid> Or even Vancouver.

01:40 <Thelema5> Hello, LunaticHell

01:41 <LunaticHell> I randomly found the randomist thing in animation

01:41 <Thelema5> Care to share?

01:42 <LunaticHell> I was randomly watching some anime where girls fight "viruses" (who do look more lite demons) with guns an all and one character, who'd go into berserk mode looked like the hero of Disgaea 2....

01:42 <LunaticHell> ...only female.

01:42 <Cepheid> XD

01:43 <LunaticHell> But the getup (plus the overly brutal fistfighting style) was eary similar.

01:43 <Cepheid> Was she the sane one of the group?

01:43 <Cepheid> While everyone else was completely bat*YAY* insane and out of their minds?

01:45 <LunaticHell> kinda

01:45 <LunaticHell> just compare http://s1.zerochan.net/Venus.Versus.Virus.600.334443.jpg

01:45 <Cepheid> Speaking of Disgaea, I really need to get around to playing Disgaea 3 and 4.

01:45 <Cepheid> Maybe I'll play through them over the week.

01:45 <LunaticHell> for compairson http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/disgaea2/art-004.jpg

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01:46 <Cepheid> Since I'll have the big TV to myself, and it'll likely be too warm for me to stay upstairs 24/7.

01:46 <Cepheid> I'm aware of what Adell looks like.

01:47 <LunaticHell> Cepheid: but the rest here, maybe not. :P

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01:47 <LunaticHell> overly long gloves: check; muscle shirt shirt with tie: check; prefers fists: check (but only because she's a horribly bad shot); has demonic powers: check

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01:48 <LunaticHell> actually what is this kinda shirt called, anyway? Armless shirt?

01:49 <LunaticHell> Oh by the way: I watched "Maria the Virgin Witch", so. much. feels.

01:49 <Cepheid> Closest word I can think of is "vest"

01:49 <Cepheid> I think there's another word, but I'm not aware of what it may be.

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01:50 <Cepheid> Fashion is not my forte.

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01:50 <LunaticHell> Yeah I just wanted to say "fashion *sigh*"

01:50 <LunaticHell> This is why this chat lacks a Rarity.

01:51 <LunaticHell> There is noone who could educate us ruffians on the topic of fashion...

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01:54 <Cepheid> Ow.

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01:55 <Cepheid> http://static.zerochan.net/Remilia.Scarlet.full.166129.jpg

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01:58 <User_3314> hi

01:58 <Fall> Hellew

02:00 <User_3314> watcha guys doing

02:01 <Cepheid> Looking at art, listening to music.

02:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comic: Nickers Satisfies / Goosed 2 / To Love Alicorn #30 / Horse Wife - Silly [ http://tinyurl.com/n9cwpee ]

02:01 <User_3314> cool

02:06 <Fall> Swearing at YouTube

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02:06 <User_3314> at who?

02:06 <Gilda> YouTube in general. Pretty damn lame tonight.

02:07 <ZeroParadox> I'm lame every night

02:09 <User_3314> Me too

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02:09 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQGGi_N81U Gilda.

02:09 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 東方vocalBGM-緋色月下、狂咲ノ絶-

02:09 <Librarian> un owen was here

02:09 <Cepheid> Heh. :P

02:10 <wobniaR> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dOWas7aOr0 Get motivated fal

02:10 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

02:10 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Shia LaBeouf Becomes a Pony and Gives Motivational Speech in Equestria [PonyDub]

02:10 <wobniaR> Gilda*

02:10 <Librarian> theme song for the demented flandre form touhou

02:10 <Cepheid> Yep.

02:10 <Gilda> Not sure why you'd assume a youtube video would be a good thing to link me when I just said it's sucking for me tonight.

02:10 <Cepheid> Flandre is creepiest Touhou character.

02:10 <wobniaR> Oh as in slow?

02:10 <User_3314> Link ALL the videos

02:11 <wobniaR> Nevermind then

02:11 <Cepheid> Gilda:  I did not make the connection that "sucking == slow"

02:11 <Librarian> nope, the yukkuri are

02:11 <Librarian> never look it up

02:11 <Gilda> Yeah, it's my internet. It's been acting weird all day.

02:11 <Librarian> flandre is cool

02:12 <Librarian> and patchouli is sweet

02:12 <Cepheid> Heh.

02:12 <Librarian> i want a girlfirend like her

02:12 * Cepheid doesn't follow the Touhou fanbase. Was not aware of the Yukkuri.

02:12 <Librarian> its weird

02:12 <Librarian> very

02:12 <Librarian> also sad

02:13 <Cepheid> Heh.

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02:17 <Cepheid> Thus far, the characters I like the most from the Touhou series are Flandre Scarlet, Remilia Scarlet, Ran Yakumo, Rin Kaenbyou, and Utsuho Reiuji.  Mostly because of the various interpretations of the mythologies or entities that they represent.  Though Rin is more just because cats.  Cats cats cats cats cats.  I like cats.

02:18 <User_3314> I have a cat

02:18 <User_3314> who was the frog girl in touhou again?

02:18 <Librarian> i am a cat

02:19 <Cepheid> Not sure why, but it seems like the various Eastern/Far EAstern countries, when dealing with mythologies from the rest of the world, have unusual or interesting interpretations of them.  Not sure if it's because they tend to use the base material, or if it's just because North America likes to butcher the base material to make it "child friendly."

02:19 <Cepheid> I can only assume butchery is why we got the Twilight saga.

02:19 <KandiGhostcat> almond milk helped my throat

02:20 <Librarian> have you actually tried the games

02:20 <Librarian> they are called bullet hell

02:20 <User_3314> Well, japanese people make every mythological character female.... but I am fine with that

02:21 <Cepheid> Not all.

02:21 <User_3314> mostly

02:21 <SkunkStripe> I think they have a strong tendancie to just use the name of something, and then after that it doesn't have much to do with its source

02:21 <Librarian> from experince, drawinf females is more fun

02:21 <Cepheid> If you explore their mythologies, they have a lot of male characters.

02:21 <SkunkStripe> *tendancy

02:21 <SkunkStripe> I think he's referring to animes and mangas taking male characters and turning them into girls

02:22 <Cepheid> Aye.

02:22 <User_3314> yes I was thinking of that

02:25 <KandiGhostcat> isnt that called gender bending?

02:25 <Cepheid> Still, it's something to work with.  The Touhou series still gives a lot of names of different spirits and entities from Korean, Chinese and Japanese mythologies.

02:25 <Cepheid> Which appeals to me, since I like researching about spirits like that.  Of which there appears to be a GREAT NUMBER TO RESEARCH.

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02:26 <Cepheid> So much mythological culture there that I could get lost and drown in it.

02:27 <ADragonDreaming> here? where?

02:27 <Gilda> Atlantis.

02:27 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  Chinese, Korean, Japanese mythology and other similar mythologies.

02:28 <wobniaR> Atlanteans master faction

02:28 <Cepheid> I was just commenting on how much of it there was from my perspective.

02:28 <User_3314> Odin promised the end of all ice giants. I dont see many ice giants around... HAIL ODIN

02:28 <Cepheid> I thought that was Thor?

02:29 <User_3314> Dunno I think not

02:29 <Cepheid> Besides, Odin got eaten by a giant wolf.  What good was he?

02:29 <wobniaR> Don't see many hydras around either

02:30 <Cepheid> Granted, the wolf was soon killed by Odin's son, who was destined to kill the wolf.

02:30 <User_3314> It was all DESTINY

02:30 <Cepheid> And Jormungandr was killed by Thor, who died from the serpent's poison.

02:31 <Cepheid> And in the end Surt just killed everyone with his Flaming Sword of KILL EVERYTHING.

02:31 <Cepheid> Save for two humans who survived in the one place the flames could not touch.

02:37 <Librarian> i make my own mythology

02:37 <Librarian> more fun

02:37 <ADragonDreaming> And then the whole world died.

02:37 <ADragonDreaming> ...wait, we're still here.

02:38 <User_3314> spoiler, he will be god

02:38 <User_3314> or the strongest god

02:38 <Librarian> funny thing, he is right

02:38 <Librarian> sort of

02:39 <Librarian> i used my mind to represent the 3 important gods

02:39 <Librarian> librarina for imaginatuin

02:39 <Librarian> chaos is the twins

02:39 <Librarian> Abiss is the incarnation of Paranoia and my bad guy

02:41 <Librarian> if you want norse mithology i recommend the gospel according to loki

02:41 <Librarian> tis great

02:42 <ADragonDreaming> Mmm... nah.

02:42 <Librarian> i liked it

02:42 <Librarian> to each his own

02:42 <Cepheid> Loki's about as truthworthy as a dragon.

02:43 <ADragonDreaming> I enjoy Norse mythology, but I "Gospel according to..." is not an endearing title here.

02:43 <Librarian> you are right, but its actually quite fun

02:44 <ADragonDreaming> I don't doubt that.

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02:44 <ADragonDreaming> But I don't think I would enjoy it, simply because of the implications of the title.

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02:45 <Librarian> i could reccomend more stuff

02:45 <Librarian> armada by ernest cline is sublime

02:46 <Librarian> crooked by austin grossman im liking quite a lot

02:46 <ADragonDreaming> *recommend

02:47 <Librarian> i type fast, might miss keys

02:47 <ADragonDreaming> Those sound interesting

02:47 <ADragonDreaming> Unfortunate I do not have money.

02:47 <Librarian> when you have the chance al least pick up armada

02:47 <Librarian> if you ever played a videogame you will loe it

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02:50 <ADragonDreaming> Hm... ah right, that's the title:

02:50 <ADragonDreaming> Ready Player One

02:50 <ADragonDreaming> That was an entertaining read.

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02:53 <Librarian> im going to study for a bit

02:53 <Librarian> see ya

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02:55 <KandiGhostcat> my perler

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02:59 * Cepheid walks into another tunnel.

02:59 * Cepheid comes running out, screaming. "BAD IDEA BAD IDEA BAD BAD IDEA!"

03:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Nightly Discussion #426 [ http://tinyurl.com/nesr5ck ]

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03:01 * Gladiolus honks

03:07 * Thelema5 sweats

03:07 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofldP7SmmHA&feature=youtu.be

03:07 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

03:07 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Dying Light Bug Compilation

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03:10 <KandiGhostcat> oh

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03:14 <Cepheid> Yeah, there are bugs in games.  But as that video shows, it could be worse. :P

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03:30 <Thelema5> Oooooh Noooo! http://imgur.com/rUcsME7

03:30 <Thelema5> The very last drop of my favorite pepper sauce!

03:31 <DinkyDoo> Meh that's not hot sauce. Now if it was a bottle of Pappys hottest ride town it'd be hot sauce!

03:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story Updates - July 29th  [ http://tinyurl.com/q6u6sbm ]

03:31 <Thelema5> DinkyDoo, I've sampled more than 120 habanero sauces, and for my pallate, this is the best there is.

03:32 <DinkyDoo> Meh Pappys isn't habanero sauce

03:32 <Thelema5> What is it?

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03:35 <Barry_From_Mars> ...

03:35 <DinkyDoo> I have no idea. I have to go to the blue ridge mountains to get it and I haven't had time to get another bottle after my last ran out.

03:36 <Thelema5> Well if you ever have an opportunity to sample Marie Sharp's products, please do endulge.  They're made in a small family factory on a mountainside plantation in Belize using only estate grown produce.

03:36 <Thelema5> Their recipes are hooves down the best in the industry, and they somehow manage to keep prices low.

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03:37 <DinkyDoo> http://www.hotsauce.com/mobile/Product.aspx?id=6083

03:37 <Indifference> To match my other nick

03:37 <Barry_From_Mars> The heck just happened? I was feeling angry and then started listening to Minutemen songs, now I'm done with angriness.

03:37 <DinkyDoo> I don't order anything from Internet. If it's not locally available I can't get it.

03:37 <Thelema5> That looks yummy, DinkyDoo!

03:38 <Barry_From_Mars> Rather limiting in a way, Dinky. I'd never get verious car parts just locally.

03:38 <Barry_From_Mars> *various

03:38 <Thelema5> Minutemen.  Huh.  That takes me back about 3 decades.

03:38 <Barry_From_Mars> So there I went saying "Never" which is limiting too. Pfheh.

03:38 <Barry_From_Mars> Yeh, the Minutemen.

03:39 <Barry_From_Mars> Considering D. Boon died three days before Christmas 1985...

03:39 <DinkyDoo> Lol Thelema5 it's got a warning in the bottle that says "careful: refrigerate or DIE."

03:39 <Barry_From_Mars> The surviving members went on and formed fIREHOSE. (not Firehouse.)

03:39 <Thelema5> Barry_From_Mars, you're always reminding me of music from my youth.  Has it come back into fashion?

03:39 <Barry_From_Mars> I listen to the Minutemen occasionally.

03:40 <Barry_From_Mars> I'm not sure "Fashion" is the proper word, I don't really know. I mean, I listen to these bands - sure...

03:40 <Barry_From_Mars> I think I mentioned the Flat Duo Jets here before?

03:41 <Barry_From_Mars> I just listen to what gives me this one feeling...

03:41 <Barry_From_Mars> I'm not sure what it is exactly, I feel it as I listen to Pony songs too.

03:42 <Barry_From_Mars> Such as "Smile Smile Smile" "A True True Friend" and "The Laughter Song"

03:42 <Thelema5> Holy crap, this sounds like Glen Danzing

03:42 <Barry_From_Mars> the Flat Duo Jets were heavily into 1950s and 1960s Rock and Roll.

03:42 <Thelema5> *danzig

03:42 <Barry_From_Mars> Even though they came in the 1980s and 1990s.

03:42 <Barry_From_Mars> Two-piece (and sometimes three-piece) band.

03:43 <Barry_From_Mars> Mostly a two-piece band though and they're the band that influenced Jack White. Without them there wouldn't be the White Stripes in the same way.

03:43 <Thelema5> I think you mentioned Mucky Pup at some point... who were obscure even at the time

03:43 <Barry_From_Mars> Hm, First time I heard of them so that may have been someone else.

03:43 <Thelema5> I never cared for them, myself

03:43 <ADragonDreaming> Marky Nup!

03:43 <Barry_From_Mars> I do listen to a British band named Flipron though.

03:44 <Barry_From_Mars> I mentioned them since they haven't been exactly "Top of the charts" or anything...

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03:44 <Barry_From_Mars> If you look them up one of their songs I'd recommend is "The Comet Returns"

03:44 * ADragonDreaming flails at Schism or Schism|Alt

03:44 <Barry_From_Mars> 1960s Pink Floyd-isgh

03:45 <Barry_From_Mars> *ish

03:45 <Barry_From_Mars> They even made a song about Cerberus about ten years ago.

03:45 <Barry_From_Mars> Yes, the three headed dog...

03:46 <Barry_From_Mars> Flipron are a talented band, they haven't done a lot of touring outside Britain yet though.

03:46 <Barry_From_Mars> They did a few concerts in America about five years ago...

03:46 <Barry_From_Mars> That was before I got my driver's license...

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03:48 <Barry_From_Mars> There are also some B-52's song I like, mostly from their first two albums since that's where the most of Ricky's early guitar style and techniques are.

03:49 <Barry_From_Mars> Thing is, a lot of his technique is lost on the records unless you're listening real closely.

03:49 <Barry_From_Mars> He was playing more parts than I heard on the first listen...

03:50 <Barry_From_Mars> Now this is a quiet chatroom.

03:51 <DinkyDoo> Huh skyrim mod size limit has been removed on steam. Now you can make as faint a mod as you like

03:51 <Thelema5> Sorry, watching Steven Universe react videos

03:51 <DinkyDoo> Giant not faint

03:51 <Barry_From_Mars> Alrighty.

03:51 <Barry_From_Mars> Well, "faint" could be construed as meaning tiny in a way...

03:51 <Thelema5> The singer from the B52's runs a B&B near me.

03:51 <DinkyDoo> Also what do you mean this is quite?

03:52 <Barry_From_Mars> Which one, you mean Kate Pierson?

03:52 <Thelema5> Um, maybe?

03:52 <Barry_From_Mars> There are three B-52's singers, so - Fred, Kate and CIndy.

03:52 <Thelema5> Yes.  This: http://www.lazymeadow.com/

03:53 <Barry_From_Mars> The website is so 1960s.

03:53 <Barry_From_Mars> And I mean that in a good way.

03:53 <Thelema5> Oh, it looks like she's also operating some units in CA now, too.

03:54 <Thelema5> I was only aware of the ones in upstate New York

03:54 <Barry_From_Mars> So was I.

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03:54 <Barry_From_Mars> No idea if I will or not though I do enjoy various aspects of the 1960s...

03:54 <Thelema5> Talk about a love shack.

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03:54 <Barry_From_Mars> Oh well I left words out of that...

03:55 <Barry_From_Mars> I'm that guy who likes old station wagons, so...

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03:55 <Barry_From_Mars> I was going to say something like maybe I'll drive up there one day. And there I go talking in maybes.

03:57 <Barry_From_Mars> BRB.

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04:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Sunset Shimmer Invades Jem and the Holograms Comic  [ http://tinyurl.com/pnj8kzg ]

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04:08 <ADragonDreaming> pickles!

04:08 <wobniaR> Sour or sweet?

04:08 <ADragonDreaming> Dill.

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04:09 <Thelema5> Pickles are wonderful.

04:09 <Cepheid> Indeed they are.

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04:10 <Barry_From_Mars> I just ate pickles like seven hours ago...

04:10 <Barry_From_Mars> Eight?

04:10 <Thelema5> I've pickled my own homegrown greenbeans, jalepenos, cucumbers, and habaneros

04:10 <Barry_From_Mars> Lots of freshness.

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04:10 <Barry_From_Mars> I dunno quite how, though I do know it's fresh that way.

04:11 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/rzTqcyLKgCg

04:11 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 107 Steven Universe Facts YOU Should Know! - ToonedUp on CartoonHangover

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04:13 <MDP> Sweet merciful celestia is bloody hot

04:13 <Cepheid> Indeed.

04:13 <Cepheid> It's so hot I had to move from my bedroom.

04:13 <Cepheid> Also, I gather you're in Ontario, MDP?

04:13 <Cepheid> Or at least around Ontario roughly.

04:13 <ADragonDreaming> Eh, Michigan's facing a heat wave too.

04:14 <Thelema5> Too danged hot, no doubt

04:14 <ADragonDreaming> Parts of it have been up over 100 F

04:14 <Cepheid> Nah, not that.  Host address.  Ends in rogers.com, which is a typical Ontario-region ISP.

04:14 <ADragonDreaming> Woof.

04:15 <Barry_From_Mars> 84.6 in my room here now...

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04:15 <Cepheid> Not always the case though.  Could also place him in Vancouver, and a few other areas.

04:15 <Cepheid> But it's generally Canadian.

04:15 <Cepheid> I don't think Rogers extends outside of Canada, in fact.

04:15 <Cepheid> But complaining of the heat does help isolate to Ontario as well, given that Southern/Eastern Ontario is suffering the same heatwave you're getting, ADragonDreaming. :P

04:16 <ADragonDreaming> Woof.

04:16 <Cepheid> All I know is that it's warm enough where I am that to continue staying in my bedroom is unsafe.  My face began to tingle, among other things.

04:18 <Cepheid> So I moved downstairs into the living room.  More open, and on the second floor instead.  Also put my jet turbine fan down there, so it's cooling off.

04:18 <Thelema5> It was 99 degrees in the shade here today, with 70% humidity... that's enough to send me indoors

04:19 <Cepheid> Even at 50% humidity that's enough.

04:19 <Cepheid> Supposedly we're going to get storms tomorrow, and following that it's supposed to cool off.

04:20 <Cepheid> Not getting my hopes up.  If it doesn't cool off, I'll be staying downstairs until it does for the most part.  Probably play PS3 games in the relatively cool environment.

04:20 <ADragonDreaming> Hm. You might be getting the storms that moved through us today.

04:21 <Cepheid> I'll be honest, the likelihood of it actually hitting me is really low.  It'll hit the rest of the city, sure, but likely miss me.

04:22 <Cepheid> I suspect it's because I'm either in an elevated area, or the swamps nearby.  Or possibly both.  But storms oftentimes usually dissipate or go around this area.

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04:24 <Cepheid> MDP:  I hope I didn't scare you with my earlier question about your location.

04:24 <Cepheid> Or that the heat didn't kill you.

04:24 <ADragonDreaming> Nah. It was a bugbear.

04:24 * aqualycool22 Bearhugs ADragonDreaming.

04:25 * ADragonDreaming tosses aqualycool22 off.

04:25 * aqualycool22 Snuggles.

04:25 <MDP> Nah it's col. yup in in ontario

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04:26 <Cepheid> .. o.O

04:26 <Cepheid> "Error in the push function."  That's a new error message.

04:26 * aqualycool22 Is sitting on the push function.

04:26 <aqualycool22> ...

04:26 <aqualycool22> Eh?

04:27 <MDP> yeah, it's about 34C in my room atm

04:27 <MDP> and it sucks nutz

04:27 <MDP> thinking about  runnign tothe store for ice cream

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04:27 <aqualycool22> Hey!

04:27 <aqualycool22> Watch the language.

04:28 <MDP> o.o

04:28 <MDP> really need to finish my Aria drawing

04:28 <MDP> so i can move on to sonata

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04:29 <Cepheid> I dunno what the temp is in my room.  Don't have a thermometer.

04:29 <MDP> I got one next to my guitars

04:29 <Cepheid> I should get one for monitoring it.

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04:29 <Cepheid> Especially since my parents seem so concerned about my wellbeing in warm environments.

04:29 <MDP> that's parents for you

04:29 <Cepheid> Sheesh, I suffer heatstroke ONCE.

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04:30 <Thelema5> I love my AC.  It's currently reading 66 degrees F (19 C) in my house

04:30 <MDP> yeah.

04:30 <Cepheid> I mean yeah, I ended up in the hospital, had to have an I.V. put in..

04:30 <Cepheid> But sheesh.

04:30 <MDP> my ceiling fan died last week... no ac

04:30 <Thelema5> Screw teh outdoors

04:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: "Daring Do Dazzle" Ponymania Brushable Now Available in Stores [ http://tinyurl.com/pdd9rbv ]

04:30 <aqualycool22> Did someone say AC?

04:30 <aqualycool22> That's me.

04:31 <MDP> ice cream is sounding great right about now... maybe i should bijke the 3 blocks and get some

04:31 <Thelema5> I'll be paying a hoof and a leg for it later, but it's totally worth it.

04:31 <MDP> So my mom found out im a brony today.

04:31 <MDP> depsite beign one for roughly 8 months now.

04:31 <Thelema5> MDP, is that like finding out you like cool ranch doritos?

04:32 <MDP> I think im the only brony in my town lol

04:32 <Thelema5> I mean, it's sort of a non-issue, no?

04:32 <Cepheid> MDP:  That is highly unlikely.

04:32 <MDP> you'd think. I've had people threaten me over it. and im 30.

04:32 <Indifference> Possibly less significant than that Thelema5

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04:32 <aqualycool22> Some girls at a carnival said they like my brony shirt. But I didn't talk to them. I don't want coodies. o3o

04:33 <Thelema5> No, really?  Where the heck do you live, Uganda?

04:33 <MDP> me? nah.  about 2 hours from toronto in a  small tourist trap.

04:33 <Cepheid> Pretty certain it's-  Yeah.

04:33 <Cepheid> Probably Kitchener/Waterloo. :P

04:34 <MDP> but yeah, my mom  raised an eyebrow but seemed ultimately cool with it.

04:34 <Thelema5> I can't imagine that people have so little investment in their own lives that they would waste time and energy on yours.

04:34 <Cepheid> But regardless, you're pretty close to Toronto, the likelihood that anyone cares is nil.

04:34 <MDP> she did ask if i was gay though. dunno why watchign cartoons makes you gay but alrighty then.

04:34 <MDP> I've met a few peopel that are coolw ith it.

04:34 <Thelema5> MDP, yeah... that doesn't really make any sens.

04:35 <Cepheid> MDP:  Do yourself a favour.  Don't ever come to Ottawa.

04:35 <MDP> no. no it doesn't

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04:35 <aqualycool22> When someone asks me if I'm gay, I tell them I have no sexual preferences because I live life as it comes, and whatever happens, happens.

04:35 <MDP> already been to ottawa

04:35 <aqualycool22> No stoppin it.

04:35 <Cepheid> You poor, poor soul.

04:35 <Thelema5> :p

04:35 <MDP> I got nothing against gay people.

04:35 <aqualycool22> Same.

04:35 * Cepheid comforts MDP for having visited Ottawa.

04:36 <MDP> I'm a fairly  chill guy, I just like to play my music and draw my pictures. let life be what ever it will

04:36 <Cepheid> There there.  At least you don't live here.

04:36 <MDP> haha. when i was there in the late 90's it was a cool place

04:36 <Cepheid> Heh.

04:36 <MDP> but that's a good 15 years ago

04:36 <Cepheid> It's boring as hell now.

04:36 <Cepheid> Nothing of interest to see, for the most part.

04:36 <aqualycool22> If I died tomorrow, I really wouldn't care. People tell me I'll go to Hell. But I'll stay warm, won't I? :/

04:36 <Thelema5> Come on, Cepheid.  What about the National Gallery of Canada?  Surely that's worth a visit.

04:36 <MDP> not unless you wanna watch harper buck things up

04:36 <Cepheid> Ehhhh... >_>

04:37 <Barry_From_Mars> Well, Jet_Black finally got the drawing I was asked to draw like three + years ago. Something I can actually be satisfied with.

04:37 <Cepheid> MDP:  Just turn on the news for that.

04:37 <Cepheid> No need to come all the way here for that.

04:37 <Thelema5> Well, you've already seen the  Canada Aviation and Space Museum.

04:37 <Barry_From_Mars> I was far too harsh earlier...

04:37 <aqualycool22> Space is awesome.

04:37 <MDP> nah, no need to watch the news,  it's  always the same. Somebody lied. Somebody died. Government's screwing you

04:37 <Cepheid> Yep.

04:37 <Barry_From_Mars> On myself... 6_9

04:37 <aqualycool22> Fawx News.

04:37 <aqualycool22> o3o

04:38 <MDP> I don't even own a tv

04:38 <MDP> I has internets. why bother lol

04:38 <Cepheid> Actually, our news is better than Fox News.  It's just all grimdark is all.

04:38 <aqualycool22> I do, to watch anime and ponies.

04:38 <Thelema5> What about the The Rideau Canal?  It's the oldest continuously operated canal system in North America!

04:38 <Barry_From_Mars> Why is it "Fox" news anyway? I know there are docile foxes, and there are wild ones.

04:38 <Cepheid> Thelema5:  There are a few interesting sights, I'll admit.

04:38 <Barry_From_Mars> Docile ones seem much rarer at the moment though.

04:38 <aqualycool22> Fox News is dum. :P

04:38 <Barry_From_Mars> And Homer is S-M-R-T.

04:38 <Cepheid> But for the most part, if you want interesting stuff to do, go to Toronto, Vancouver, or some other large city in Canada.

04:38 <MDP> alrighty.  im gonna hoof it and get some ice cream.  I'll be back shortly then i think i might start drawign again

04:39 <Cepheid> Ottawa is not a city to go to for fun.  It was even declared to be the most boring city in Canada at one point.

04:39 <MDP> gotta finish that aria!

04:39 <MDP> Then find somepony to color it so i can finally get some fan art ont he website since they never seem to accept my  black and white pencil drawings...

04:39 <Thelema5> Hmm.  I prefer to check out the real history of a region, not the shiny museums build by foundations years after the fact.

04:39 <Cepheid> Bars and clubs are constantly closing and re-opening under new management.  What you once visited one week may be a new place the next week, among other issues.

04:39 <Barry_From_Mars> Holy moly resolution Batman, what am I scanning to get such a large res on these? https://derpiboo.ru/947023

04:40 <Cepheid> Plus decent restaurants are hard to come by for anything other than pizza.

04:40 <Thelema5> That's a real shame.

04:40 <MDP> Brb

04:40 * MDP afk

04:40 <Indifference> I'm finally getting hyped about my trip

04:40 <Thelema5> Indifference, where are you headed?

04:41 <Cepheid> Barry_From_Mars:  Adjust your DPI settings.

04:41 <Thelema5> And isn't your nick in conflict with "getting hyped"?

04:41 <Indifference> Middle of nowhere, Mexico, Mexico Thelema5

04:41 <Cepheid> Er, scanner DPI, that is.

04:41 * Barry_From_Mars is such a baby that he be like "What's DPI"?

04:41 <Thelema5> I have a few friends in Mexico, Indifference.

04:41 <Indifference> I'm usually not

04:41 <Thelema5> I'd love to join you on your trip.

04:42 <Cepheid> Dots per inch.  It's how many pixels it uses per inch when scanning.  Most systems default to like, 300 DPI.

04:42 <Cepheid> So it'll be 300 pixels per inch.

04:42 <Cepheid> Some default to much higher.

04:42 <Indifference> I don't know the address or even the name of the town

04:42 <Barry_From_Mars> ... Well. I used 600, I think.

04:42 <Cepheid> Yeah, that'll do it.

04:42 <Cepheid> You might want to decrease that a bit.

04:42 <Barry_From_Mars> And here I thought that had to do with picture quality, not size.

04:42 <Cepheid> Try 200 or 300.

04:42 <Cepheid> Nope.

04:42 <Indifference> I should know where my house is D:

04:43 <Cepheid> It does technically determine "quality" in a sense, but...

04:43 <Barry_From_Mars> Thanks. Now I won't be bringing a 20 foot tall tree through an 8 foot doorway... So to speak...

04:43 <Cepheid> Not in the manner you're thinking.

04:44 <Indifference> 300 should do the trick

04:44 <Cepheid> When scanning, the DPI determines how much detail it'll pick up from the document.  Problem is, the more detail it picks up, the larger the image has to be to reveal it.

04:44 <Thelema5> quality / size are the same, mor or less... DPI indicated the resolution.  A 300 DPI image at 4" x 3" is the same as a 96 DPI image at 12.5" x 9.33"

04:45 <Barry_From_Mars> Huh.

04:45 <Cepheid> Mmm.  It indicates resolution, yeah.  But it does different things when printing or scanning, in effect.

04:45 <Cepheid> Printing, it results in better quality and sharpness of the printed document.

04:46 <Cepheid> Especially for printed, formatted text.

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04:46 <Thelema5> The internet standard for images is 96 DPI, because that's standard display resolution.  As Cepheid says, print is different.  300 dpi is standard for print.

04:47 <Cepheid> For scanning, it literally just determines the final size of the image, and how much detail will be shown, since with greater resolution, more pixels can be used to show gradients and changes in the scanned in imagery.

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04:47 <Indifference> 96 isn't very high though

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04:48 <Cepheid> No, it's not, but it's commonly what computers use.

04:48 <Indifference> Maybe 150 would be an ok standard

04:48 <Thelema5> When I send ads for high-gloss print, they demand 300 dpi CMYK

04:48 <Cepheid> Windows and Linux operate under the assumption that the screen is a 96 DPI device by default in most cases.

04:49 <Cepheid> Mac OS X takes (And I can't believe I'm saying this) the more sane approach of using 72 DPI.

04:49 <Thelema5> 72?  Huh.

04:49 <Indifference> Afaik x11 tries to use the actual size first

04:49 <Cepheid> Well, no.  Not these days.

04:49 <Indifference> Then 96

04:49 <Indifference> Oh?

04:49 <Cepheid> Actually, no.  I'm wrong, rather.

04:49 <Cepheid> Let me start over.

04:49 <Thelema5> :p

04:50 <Cepheid> Point sizes for FONTS assume 96 DPI in Windows and Linux.

04:50 <ADragonDreaming> I am tired.

04:50 <Cepheid> In Mac OS X, it's 72.

04:50 <Cepheid> So when you specify point size 12 in Mac OS X, it'll be different under Windows and Linux.

04:50 <Thelema5> Makes sense.

04:50 <Indifference> Meh

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04:51 <Indifference> Just use pdf

04:51 <Cepheid> This is because point sizes are based on units that are 1/72 of an inch.

04:51 <Indifference> Then fonts are not as important

04:52 <Cepheid> The point size stuff is more programming-related.

04:52 <Cepheid> It's just a big pain in the butt really.

04:52 <ADragonDreaming> Indifference: which is all fine and dandy so long as the recipients don't need to edit the pdf.

04:53 <Indifference> True

04:53 <Thelema5> Not so much.  It's important in content creation as well.

04:53 <Indifference> Latex!

04:53 <ADragonDreaming> I don't see the relevance of glove material.

04:53 <Cepheid> (12 / 72 ) * 72 = 12 pixels height.

04:53 <Thelema5> A fair bit of time is spent stretching, fixing, and repairing sub-standard images

04:53 <Cepheid> (12 / 72) * 96 = 16 pixels height.

04:54 <KandiGhostcat> i'm eating a snack

04:54 <Indifference> Isn't that an identity function?

04:54 <Cepheid> So a point size 12 font will be 16 pixels high under Windows, 12 pixels high under Mac OS X.

04:54 <Indifference> Oh nvm

04:54 <Thelema5> The standard is, and should be: 96 DPI for web display, 300 DPI for print at size

04:55 <Indifference> Should, nope

04:55 <Indifference> Is, yes sadly

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04:55 <Thelema5> Indifference, you have something displaying images at a higher resolution?

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04:56 <ADragonDreaming> Hm.

04:56 <Indifference> That's the sad part, Thelema5. There's not often.

04:56 <Cepheid> Amazingly, there are things that display images at higher DPIs than 96 or 72.

04:56 <ADragonDreaming> I remember when people were worried Derpy was going to be shoved under a rug and forgotten.

04:56 <Vulpor> Hey all

04:56 <Cepheid> Common displays.

04:56 <Cepheid> My laptop for example, has a DPI of... Lemme see.

04:56 <Vulpor> What is going on tonight

04:57 <ADragonDreaming> A discussion of display resolutions.

04:57 <Thelema5> Hardly at all, if ever.  72 was standard for a long time; 96 was adopted for advanced displays

04:57 <Cepheid> 169.45DPI

04:57 <Indifference> 15.6" 1080p is probably higher than 96

04:57 <Vulpor> 60fps and 1090P or the game sucks :P

04:57 <ADragonDreaming> Those are ... relatively recent.

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04:58 <Vulpor> 1080 not 1090

04:58 <Cepheid> Indifference:  141.21

04:58 <Vulpor> our brains cannot handle 1090

04:58 <Indifference> Cool

04:58 <Cepheid> More recent resolutions at the 4k boundary are even higher DPI.

04:58 <Cepheid> That's why UIs are getting hard to read on laptops that run at Quad HD.

04:58 <ADragonDreaming> The reason there's a standard at a lower resolution is because the world is not in lockstep with display devices.

04:58 <Indifference> My phone certainly is higher than 96

04:59 <ADragonDreaming> Give it another decade, we'll see what happens.

04:59 <Cepheid> It's also why I would like to start seeing UIs that adopt say, SVG, or some simplified variant of SVG.

04:59 <Indifference> Yes!

04:59 <Vulpor> Has anyone gotten a chance to see Wayward Pines?

04:59 <Cepheid> Because vector graphics solve the issue of DPI and UIs.

04:59 <Indifference> That would be great

05:00 <ADragonDreaming> What's Wayward Pines?

05:00 <Cepheid> I honestly want to take the SVG standard, and strip out all the cruft that makes it hard to fully implement it, and simply create a new standard called SimpleSVG.

05:00 <Vulpor> I just binged about four episodes and they do the one thing I hate most when doing horror/sci fi

05:00 <Indifference> That's not a bad idea

05:01 <Vulpor> Wayward Pines is/was a mini series on fox

05:01 <Cepheid> SVG Tiny doesn't work for me.

05:01 <Cepheid> It still has too much cruft.

05:01 <Vulpor> about a town in Idaho

05:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Music of the Day #534 [ http://tinyurl.com/pqatrpj ]

05:01 <Cepheid> All SVG should be, is simply scalable vector graphics.  NO. SCRIPTING.

05:01 <Cepheid> No animations.

05:01 <Cepheid> Just static imagery, scalable.

05:01 <Indifference> Agreed

05:01 <Vulpor> So, four episodes in it basically info dumps everything

05:01 <ADragonDreaming> Yay info dumps.

05:02 <Cepheid> But instead, W3 had to go add interactivity, scripting, animation, and all this other weird stuff.

05:02 <KooK> I should not be sitting in this seat, I am nothing but a ball of sweat right now

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05:02 <Indifference> Animation can be composed

05:02 <Vulpor> the whole premise is its a town that bad things happen in

05:02 <Indifference> No need to embed it

05:02 <Angelshy> Hello

05:02 <ADragonDreaming> Hi.

05:02 <ADragonDreaming> Have a pickle.

05:02 <Vulpor> and now we know why and how and all that

05:02 <Indifference> Hello Angelshy

05:02 <Cepheid> You wnat animation?  Then we'll talk about a new format that does keyframing of individual SVG files or something.

05:02 <Indifference> Mhm

05:02 <Cepheid> But it WILL NOT be part of the SVG standard.

05:02 <Angelshy> What is going on?

05:02 <Cepheid> It'll be a separate file format.

05:03 <Vulpor> It annoys the crap out of me when the thing your supposed to fear in a work of fiction is explained

05:03 <ADragonDreaming> You know, the usual.

05:03 <MDP> back. anyone miss me?

05:03 <ADragonDreaming> Two different conversations going on, one about entertainment, one about tech.

05:03 <Indifference> Unfortunately, I'm not knowledgeable in the svg spec, so I'd be useless

05:04 <ADragonDreaming> You've got to be gone longer than that to be missed. Goes for everyone!

05:04 <Barry_From_Mars> ... What just happened.

05:04 <Cepheid> I'm not either, but it'd be pretty easy to do.  The SVG spec is pretty straightforward and laid out.

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05:04 <Barry_From_Mars> Somehow I just uploaded four drawings in under three hours.

05:04 <ADragonDreaming> Well done.

05:04 <Barry_From_Mars> yay

05:04 <Barry_From_Mars> Thanks.

05:05 <Vulpor> For me the best work of fiction going right now is Welcome to Night Vale

05:05 <Indifference> Any particular reason Cepheid?

05:05 <Vulpor> Because there is so much not known about that fiction

05:05 * MDP cries. no one missed him

05:05 <MDP> so. whats new and exciting

05:06 <Vulpor> I got new undies on does that count?

05:06 <Indifference> The world is as it was

05:06 <Cepheid> SVG standard:  Remove sections 16 through 19 to start.

05:06 <MDP> indeed

05:06 <Cepheid> They're pretty much all the cruft that's not needed.

05:07 <ADragonDreaming> But Cepheid, without all that cruft, how will it replace Flash?

05:07 <Cepheid> Everything else needs to be adjusted to remove references to animation of elements, etc.

05:07 <Indifference> I mean can you not just not use those bits?

05:07 <MDP> no idea what you folks are talking about so imma sit here  like derpy and eat my muffin

05:07 * Cepheid appears behind ADragonDreaming, repeatedly unsheathing and sheathing his hidden blade, glaring intensely.

05:07 * ADragonDreaming throws MDP and his muffin at Cepheid.

05:08 <Indifference> ADragonDreaming: a separate format for animation on top

05:08 * MDP weeeeeeeeee

05:08 <Cepheid> Indifference: I can avoid it, sure.  But then I run into an issue if I write a loader/renderer.

05:08 <Indifference> Let's call it Not Flash

05:08 <ADragonDreaming> But that's not what Flash did.

05:08 <Cepheid> "Your library doesn't do X!  When are you going to add Y!?"

05:08 <ADragonDreaming> And clearly they have to do what Flash did if they want to replace Flash!

05:09 <Cepheid> Of course, I could explicitly state that I am not implementing sections 16 through 19.

05:09 <Indifference> That would be an issue regardless

05:10 <Indifference> I fail at being not sane it seems

05:10 <MDP> mmm ice creammm om nom nom

05:10 <Cepheid> At this point in time, I'm honestly inclined to actually just up and write an SVG software renderer.  There's no complete renderers or libraries out there.

05:10 <Indifference> Either way features are left out

05:11 <Cepheid> Creating a new standard isn't the best idea, either.

05:11 <Cepheid> Since there are already too many standards out there as is

05:11 <Indifference> Yup

05:12 <Indifference> I was trying to replace irc once

05:12 <Indifference> Then I said *yay* it

05:13 <MDP> I tried to replace my ex once but  the transfer 404'd.

05:14 <KandiGhostcat> oh

05:14 <Indifference> The unmoving carcass can be found here https://bitbucket.org/rhg135/acquisition/src

05:15 <ADragonDreaming> "We have 14 standards for this thing. We should make one that everybody can use and really get everyone on the same page."

05:16 <ADragonDreaming> *later*

05:16 <ADragonDreaming> "We have 15 standards for this thing..."

05:16 <Indifference> Exactly

05:16 <Cepheid> Yep.

05:16 <Indifference> So now I'm just trying to augment irc

05:16 <Cepheid> Let's take a look see at your code.

05:17 <Cepheid> Can't say I'm familiar with this language.

05:17 <Indifference> It'll burn!

05:17 * ADragonDreaming starts counting down.

05:17 <Cepheid> Schema?

05:17 <ADragonDreaming> 12, 11, 10...

05:17 <Indifference> Documentation purposes mostly

05:18 <ADragonDreaming> 1. Aaaaand Cepheid's on fire.

05:18 <Cepheid> I actually can't identify this language.  At all.

05:18 <Cepheid> Ah.  Clojure.

05:19 <Indifference> Irc can be extended via services

05:20 <Indifference> In practice at least

05:20 * Cepheid bursts into flames.

05:22 <Indifference> Another victim

05:22 <Cepheid> I'm sure I could read Clojure if I took the time to learn it.

05:22 <Cepheid> But it's not my kind of language

05:24 <Barry_From_Mars> ... Well... HERE it is... my page... https://derpiboo.ru/tags/artist-colon-barryfrommars

05:24 <Barry_From_Mars> On DB...

05:24 <Indifference> I keep ail offline for now just to avoid hurting people

05:25 <Indifference> It's very incomplete

05:25 <ADragonDreaming> WHAT IS LOVE?!

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05:27 <Cepheid> Baby don't hurt me!

05:28 <Cepheid> ...

05:28 <Cepheid> These people are boring, ADragonDreaming.

05:28 <MDP> don't hurt me. no more

05:28 <ADragonDreaming> I agree.

05:28 <ADragonDreaming> Except for MDP apparently.

05:29 <Pi> SPAAAAACEEEE

05:29 <Cepheid> VAT IZ LOVE!?

05:30 <Indifference> That

05:30 <MDP> Oh, I don't know why you're not thereI give you my love, but you don't careSo what is right and what is wrong, gimme a sign

05:30 * Cepheid rocks head back and forth in a ridiculous manner.

05:31 <MDP> I'm not a fan of puppetteers but I've a nagging fear someone else is pullin at the strings...

05:33 * MDP notices the tumbleweed rollin by

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05:35 * Cepheid shoots ADragonDreaming through the heart with an bow and arrow.

05:37 * ADragonDreaming is shot

05:37 * ADragonDreaming instantly falls asleep

05:37 <ADragonDreaming> (all seriousness, going to bed, g'night)

05:37 <Cepheid> >.>

05:37 <Cepheid> Good night.

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05:41 <MDP> I should get someone to make me an OC pony

05:42 <KooK> Just going to soft ball it in like that, eh?

05:43 <Cepheid> KooK:  I'd have banned you for 30 seconds just for doing the Harlem Shake.

05:43 <MDP> lol

05:43 <MDP> probably should get around to makign a diviantart for my drawings

05:43 <KooK> Cepheid, nobody loves you

05:44 <Cepheid> I know.

05:44 <MDP> I wubs you.

05:46 <KooK> MDP is 12 though, doesn't count

05:47 <MDP> I'm 30 lol

05:47 <KooK> LIAR!

05:47 <MDP> lol

05:47 <MDP> nay.

05:47 <MDP> yay got my diviant art  thign started now

05:48 <KooK> deviant

05:48 <MDP> I can't spell

05:48 <KooK> me either

05:50 <MDP> reguardless. anyone think  people would be intersted in seeing pencil drawings of MLP if done reasonably well? at somepoitn I might colab with people to get them coloured as im  crap with digital stuff.

05:51 <KooK> Colored

05:51 <KooK> you dirty European

05:51 <MDP> I'm canadian. We actually spell it that way

05:51 * Gladiolus wiggles stealthily towards Finwe

05:51 <Barry_From_Mars> Anyone want a beach song?

05:51 <KooK> Canadians spell it colour?

05:51 <MDP> yes

05:52 <KooK> Did not know that

05:52 <MDP> and cheque...

05:52 <Barry_From_Mars> Pencil art? MDP, I'm drawing pencil art... So, yes...

05:52 <MDP> cool

05:53 <MDP> http://artponymdp.deviantart.com/   just  created a deviant art account or mine

05:53 <Barry_From_Mars> TheFriendlyelephant draws with pencils too.

05:53 <Barry_From_Mars> 404 page there.

05:53 <MDP> only got one  pic of adagio up atm

05:53 <Gladiolus> i like it

05:53 <MDP> hmm.

05:54 <Barry_From_Mars> First impression: Surprisingly well done.

05:54 <MDP> well then search ArtPonyMDP on deviantart

05:54 <Barry_From_Mars> I copied and pasted the link, that worked.

05:54 <MDP> cool

05:54 <MDP> im working on a pic of Aria atm

05:54 <Barry_From_Mars> Alrighty.

05:55 <MDP> thoughts?

05:55 <MDP> lmao wow i didnt knwo that scan was 60 megs

05:55 <MDP> new sanner...

05:55 <MDP> scanner

05:56 <Barry_From_Mars> That's what I meant by "First impression: Surprisingly well done."

05:56 <MDP> that's a bloody huge pic

05:56 <Barry_From_Mars> That's my comment of your Adagio drawing.

05:56 <MDP> I was classically trained in animation before it all went digital

05:56 <Barry_From_Mars> ... THough I didn't post it on the page then...

05:57 <MDP> good old pencil,  thin paper, a backlit draftign table and a crap tone of cells.

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05:58 <MDP> never could wrap my head around all the 3d modeling   and tablet stuff

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06:01 <Cepheid> I was just trained in insanity.

06:01 <Cepheid> Both self-taught and formally.

06:01 <MDP> that works too

06:02 <Cepheid> Been writing code since I was 10 years old.  Not that I really have anything to show for it, really.

06:02 <MDP> i used to use  game maker to make crappy sonic fan games...

06:02 <MDP> so.. yeah i dunno much about programming

06:03 <Barry_From_Mars> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXOrAOOb_W0

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06:03 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

06:03 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Pugwash perform ELO's Telephone Line live on The John Murray Show

06:04 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/TamarinFrog/status/626508570230714368

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06:06 <MDP> where can one  learn how to use and obtain photoshop?

06:09 <Barry_From_Mars> Do you mean the newest Photoshop or an older version? I do have experience with Photoshop, though the types I'm thinking of are like over 13 years old now.

06:09 <Gladiolus> internet places, depends on if you're willing to spend 500 dollars or not but "places" or "just use essentials"

06:09 <Barry_From_Mars> Not that I've used it for a while, though the cobwebs can be cleared...

06:09 <MDP> what ever is a good  program to  colour stuff I scan

06:09 <Snapai> GIMP works

06:09 <Barry_From_Mars> Actually, if you would like to you /can/ just photograph it...

06:10 <Cepheid> I'ma wander off and try to get some sleep.

06:10 <Barry_From_Mars> Good Night.

06:10 <Cepheid> Especially since I'm getting sharp pains in my head.

06:10 <MDP> I have a scanner

06:10 <MDP> just need to slower the dpi  aparently

06:10 <Barry_From_Mars> TheFriendlyElephant photographs his drawings: https://derpiboo.ru/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&sbq=artist%3Athefriendlyelephant

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06:15 <Barry_From_Mars> Yeah, sleep time here too...

06:15 <Barry_From_Mars> Good night.

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06:15 <MDP> night]

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06:21 <MDP> I want to finish this aria blaze picture but i just duuno what I want to do with it

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06:29 *** Lenfant_Sauvage changes topic to 'Welcome to #EquestriaDaily! This is an ALL-AGES channel. | GUIDE: http://derpy.me/EqDRules | Type !list to download episodes | LATEST SPOILERS: Roseluck Finally Learns That A Bee Landing On Her Flowers Is No Reason To Faint'

06:30 <Sleepai> I drew something like that, Lenfant_Sauvage

06:30 * Gladiolus faints on Lenfant_Sauvage

06:31 * Lenfant_Sauvage patpats Gladiolus

06:31 <Lenfant_Sauvage> You did indeed! Was the inspiration.

06:31 <Sleepai> Mwaha

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06:32 * Gladiolus is patted :3

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06:40 <MDP> wish october would come faster so i can watch new ponies

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06:56 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

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06:57 * Lenfant_Sauvage flops sleepily on ConfusionRift.

06:58 * ConfusionRift patpats Lenfant_Sauvage.

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07:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Listening to heavy metal right now with a cat on the dresser. She don't give a buck.

07:03 <Lenfant_Sauvage> Dedicated as hell to that dresser, she is.

07:04 <ConfusionRift> This my dresser, yo!

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07:18 * Indifference turns on his fan

07:18 <Indifference> Good night equines!

07:18 <ConfusionRift> Laters Indifference.

07:18 * Indifference uses Rest

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07:34 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

07:34 <Finwe> o7

07:34 <Finwe> Bless you!

07:34 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

07:34 <ConfusionRift> Thanks.

07:34 <LightSpeed> i like Heavy metal

07:34 <Finwe> Oh, and Lt Sausage!

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07:35 <Finwe> _o7

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07:36 <Finwe> Mid CleverDerpy.

07:36 <CleverDerpy> !s5

07:36 <DerpyBot> The next episode doesn't air in 2d:08h:53m:27s

07:36 <Finwe> o7

07:36 <CleverDerpy> what's going on?

07:37 <CleverDerpy> why isn't it airing?

07:37 <LightSpeed> euh...season 5 is not 2 days.

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07:37 <Finwe> Gladiolus: I see what you did at 0751 EEST.

07:37 <Finwe> Valiant: --^

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07:38 <Finwe> !plot

07:38 <Valiant> wat

07:38 <Valiant> oh

07:38 * Valiant wiggles stealthily at Finwe

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07:38 <ConfusionRift> CleverDerpy: You... you are aware of the hiatus, right?

07:38 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*

07:38 <CleverDerpy> no...?

07:38 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*

07:39 <LightSpeed> *wigglewiggle*

07:39 <ConfusionRift> The next one won't air for a while. They decided to split the season in two.

07:39 <Finwe> The season goes on closer Christmas.

07:39 <CleverDerpy> huh... I was wondering why it wasn't catching new eps on my DVR

07:39 <Finwe> This way, people buy more related stuff.

07:39 <ConfusionRift> Funny.

07:40 <CleverDerpy> that sounds stupid to me

07:40 <CleverDerpy> but it's their show

07:41 <SkunkStripe> pretty much all the really good cartoons have been having midseason hiatuses for the last year and no one knows why

07:41 <Valiant>     

07:41 <Finwe> Also, the audiences have been substantially smaller summer.

07:41 <Lenfant_Sauvage> In MLP's case we already know

07:41 <Lenfant_Sauvage> it's because of EQG3

07:41 <CleverDerpy> so I got poser

07:41 * Finwe hats on Lenfant_Sauvage.

07:41 <CleverDerpy> and I got some awesome stuff going

07:42 <CleverDerpy> but thanks for the tip Rifty

07:42 * Lenfant_Sauvage is hat'd as he goes to sleep. -3- z z z

07:42 * Finwe is a night cap.

07:42 * ConfusionRift patpats CleverDerpy. :P

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07:43 * CleverDerpy likes to be patted and purrs

07:43 <Flashy> !t ConfusionRift

07:45 * Valiant also pats CleverDerpy :3

07:46 <CleverDerpy> yay~

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07:46 * CleverDerpy hugs Valiant and wags her tail

07:46 * Valiant snuggles CleverDerpy :3

07:48 <Flashy> i just ate anentire block of cheese

07:50 <Arta> Wow

07:51 <CleverDerpy> I ate a whole gigamuffin

07:51 <CleverDerpy> the muffin genie was so impressed he offered me one wish

07:52 * The_Nostalgia_Mare snuggles CleverDerpy.

07:52 <CleverDerpy> so I asked to go back to before I ate the giga muffin, until he eventually caught on

07:52 <CleverDerpy> i started getting kinda chubby

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07:53 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Hi.

07:53 <CleverDerpy> hiya nossy

07:54 * CleverDerpy hugs her and purrs

07:54 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Hehe.

07:54 <ConfusionRift> Lt. The_Nostalgia_Mare. (salutes)

07:54 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Lt. Cdr. ConfusionRift. (Salutes)

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07:56 <Finwe> Lt The_Nostalgia_Mare!

07:56 <Finwe> _o7

07:56 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Radm. Finwe. (Salutes)

07:56 <CleverDerpy> i forgot my rank

07:56 <Finwe> Midshipman, I believe.

07:57 <CleverDerpy> you mean Midshipmare

07:57 * CleverDerpy giggles

07:57 <Finwe> If you like. :3

07:57 * Finwe hugs a CleverDerpy.

07:57 * CleverDerpy purrs and pets Finwe's back

07:58 <CleverDerpy> i gotta go, i work today, it's payday

07:59 <Finwe> o3o

07:59 * CleverDerpy puts a Finwe under her head and sleeps

07:59 <Finwe> Oh, it's the 30th already.

07:59 <ConfusionRift> Indeed it is payday. I wonder if I gots the monies.

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08:00 <CleverDerpy> i do

08:00 <CleverDerpy> 125 bits

08:00 <Finwe> But this month has 31 days, so it might be tomorrow as well.

08:00 <SkunkStripe> unsolicited flashbacks

08:00 <Finwe> We always get our monthly salary on the 15th of every month.

08:00 <ConfusionRift> I get payed biweekly.

08:00 <Finwe> Or thereabouts, if the 15th day occurs on a weekend.

08:01 <CleverDerpy> i get paid weekly, but i don't make a lot of money nor work too long

08:01 <CleverDerpy> Finwe, be my pillow plushy~

08:01 <Finwe> o3o

08:02 * CleverDerpy snuggles the Finwe and falls asleep

08:02 <SkunkStripe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=53&v=__-NKgcRM2c

08:03 <Finwe> Good night, CleverDerpy!

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08:05 <SkunkStripe> I can't wait until A Hat in Time is ready

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08:09 <ConfusionRift> Thanks for reminding me.

08:10 <SkunkStripe> I try

08:10 <ConfusionRift> Thing is that's one that's being hanging for a while.

08:12 <SkunkStripe> the was an update this month

08:13 * Finwe hats on SkunkStripe.

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08:21 <ConfusionRift> It catches my interest, but I tend to forget to get it.

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08:27 <Seoson> Ah ponies: Were the other 2 EQG movies a tv (not cinema) premier as well?

08:29 <ConfusionRift> They were movies, from what I could tell. This one? (shrugs)

08:30 <Seoson> I rad that it would air on TV first which made me wonder ^^

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08:30 <ConfusionRift> *read

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08:31 <Seoson> For me this is probably a good thing because that means livestreams. I'd have to wait for a decent cinema rip otherwise, since a cinema release here would take probably at least a year from the original release

08:31 <VinylScratch> RR did have a theatrical release.

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08:32 <VinylScratch> since the first few rips were from a cinema

08:34 <Seoson> "*read" Oh well. Thanks Vinyl. Let's hope that doesn't affect the quality too much.

08:34 <SkunkStripe> I frogot they were in theatres. Which really seems weird now that I think about it

08:35 <ConfusionRift> Oh noooooeees! It's in 1080p! It must be in 5400p!!! (grumbles and coughs as he grumbles)

08:35 <SkunkStripe> Like the stakes are still sort of high in the EQG movies, magical villains and all that, but they do it in such a round about way that it seems like the stakes are super low. They aight though. I watched the first one when it was just on tv one day

08:37 <Seoson> CR don't be a silly filly. I was obviously talking about soundtrack, animation and writing

08:37 <Seoson> <3

08:37 <VinylScratch> Well, thanks to EQG, we have one of the best developed ex-antagonist protags

08:38 <ConfusionRift> I dunno. I don't really follow the EqG stuff, at all.

08:38 <Seoson> I don't like the EQG idea too much, but the soundtrack makes it worth it.

08:39 <VinylScratch> Sunset Shimmer tho'

08:39 <ConfusionRift> Uuuuh, same pop stuff. (chokes)

08:39 <VinylScratch> Ehhhh

08:39 <VinylScratch> Not exactly, RR had some great songs from the sirens

08:39 <ConfusionRift> Again, didn't watch it.

08:40 <ConfusionRift> I guess you can hang me on that one It just never caught my interest.

08:40 <Seoson> -.- You missed something

08:40 <VinylScratch> xD

08:42 <Seoson> Download it to your phone and watch it when on a trip or something. You won't regret it

08:42 <ConfusionRift> No thanks. My phone would have a heart attack. Also, I'm still not interested.

08:42 <VinylScratch> It actually works out as a really fun flick - certainly better than pixels and the like. :P

08:43 <ConfusionRift> I'm hoping to get rid of this phone soon. I'm really tired of it.

08:43 <VinylScratch> what phone?

08:44 <ConfusionRift> Samsung Exhibit 2.

08:44 <VinylScratch> Huh - Mine be a galaxy S5, it does the job well enough.

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08:44 <ConfusionRift> For some reason, it keeps flooding the RAM, so it slugs with little to no use.

08:45 <Seoson> But CR humanized ponies .... still cute!

08:45 <VinylScratch> That sucks, lol

08:45 <ConfusionRift> You just described one of the aspects that still bother me about EqG, Seoson.

08:45 <Seoson> You could try an alternate ROM. Very often increases performance

08:46 * Flashy noots ConfusionRift

08:46 <ConfusionRift> You mean RAM.

08:46 <Seoson> NO ROM

08:46 <Finwe> Samsung is notorious for behaviour described by ConfusionRift.

08:46 <Seoson> No* caps-lock unintended

08:47 <ConfusionRift> That makes no sense, Seoson. ROM is permanent memory, which is not very easy to do on this phone.

08:47 <Finwe> ConfusionRift: Install CyanogenMod or some corresponding ROM.

08:47 <Seoson> ^ CyanogenMod = an alternate ROM

08:47 <SkunkStripe> REM

08:48 <Finwe> And it's actually not ROM, it's just data stored on your storage card.

08:48 * ConfusionRift sighs.

08:48 <Finwe> With sufficient privileges you can erase it.

08:48 <Finwe> After which the phone will not function properly. o3o

08:49 <Seoson> These things are called ROMs. I didn't invent the term, but it's correct

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08:49 <VinylScratch> .....Something tells me you're not as correct as you think you are.

08:50 <Seoson> I guess they took the wording from those old game cartridges i dunno

08:50 <Seoson> http://forum.xda-developers.com/custom-roms

08:50 <ConfusionRift> Seoson: What does ROM stand for?

08:51 <Seoson> I know the meaning of the term. As I said I didn't invent the term they are just called that way

08:51 <ConfusionRift> Stupid mobile development.

08:52 <Finwe> Read-Only Memory o3o

08:52 <Seoson> Even the most common app to manage them in OS is called ROM Manager

08:52 <Finwe> It's not very read-only if you can erase and rewrite it.

08:52 <ConfusionRift> Yes, exactly. A yet, they use the term for something else. It's dumb.

08:52 <VinylScratch> They're essentially misusing it

08:53 <fyrepony> haha just went to bank to break for smaller money

08:53 <fyrepony> they claimed they cant

08:53 <fyrepony> but i went to another and they did it

08:53 <ConfusionRift> It's called "being too lazy to pull out ones".

08:54 <ConfusionRift> Or fivers.

08:54 <Seoson> game cartridges rips (for the gameboy for example) are also called ROMs and technically there is a part on them used for save games

08:54 <ConfusionRift> Which is the RAM.

08:57 <Seoson> Correct but people don't differentiate ;-) Also parts of the android roms are read only, such as the recovery, bootloader, radio(?), and certain parts of the system partition

08:57 <ConfusionRift> The data of the game couldn't be rewritten or modified. Hence ROM.

08:58 <ConfusionRift> The PC OS is still referred to as an OS, despite having partitions that could not be modified.

08:58 <ConfusionRift> This still makes no sense to me, but meh. Not gonna fight about it.

08:59 <Seoson> I agree it's a stupid wording but I'm not going to use other terms since they are de facto standard

09:00 <ConfusionRift> That's the thing that bothers me. It's like they decide to call the next level of audio for mobile devices Mono. It would not make any sense.

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09:01 <VinylScratch> Yeah, it makes no sense to apply such a double meaning to a well established term.

09:01 <VinylScratch> it's pretty silly

09:03 <Seoson> Anyhow a custom andoird build can massively increase performance. Saved my Desire S for example

09:09 <CleverDerpy> and i thought surroundsound was strange

09:10 <CleverDerpy> then again, kinda makes sense

09:10 <CleverDerpy> it's immersive if you got something like high end speakers or good heaphones

09:11 <Valiant> I think the reason "ROMs" are called as such for phones is because those OSes /were/ originally read only.

09:11 <Valiant> The idea of rooting a phone and stuff is relatively new.

09:14 <ConfusionRift> That makes a bit more sense.

09:15 <ConfusionRift> Then again, there was no OS. So yeah, I suppose so. Still, they same went for PCs.

09:16 <ConfusionRift> Well, I gotta go do something. Be back in a bit.

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09:41 <Indifference> The insomnia is real

09:46 <SkunkStripe> I went to sleep. But thend decided I was too cool for it

09:49 <Indifference> I'm too altered to sleep. If that's the word.

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09:50 <SkunkStripe> call upon the power of frankerZ

09:51 <Valiant> Altered, wat.

09:51 <SkunkStripe> Beast

09:53 <Indifference> I feel anxious but less worry. Hype but lethargy.

09:53 <Indifference> It's far too late for proper word choice.

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09:56 <GamerGirlBLU> teehee

09:56 <GamerGirlBLU> anyone here?

09:57 <VinylScratch> Meee

09:57 <Verandure> Yes and no.

09:57 <GamerGirlBLU> you know how you create your own god in some rpg games?

09:58 <VinylScratch> A little

09:58 <GamerGirlBLU> like you can create your own character and give them a whole bunch of abilites and armour and stuff?

09:58 <GamerGirlBLU> thats pretty much what its like when you create a pony OC

09:59 <GamerGirlBLU> they can be whatever you want and its all in good fun

09:59 * Schism coughs. "Only if your OC is a Mary Sue."

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09:59 <GamerGirlBLU> kind of like how in skyrim you start out weak but as you go on you get more and more powerful

10:00 <GamerGirlBLU> you can either look good or you can look powerful and its all in good fun

10:00 <SkunkStripe> you mean most video games?

10:00 <GamerGirlBLU> thats pretty much what its like when you create an alicorn OC

10:00 <SkunkStripe> oh the looking good part, nevermind

10:01 <GamerGirlBLU> its not about beating a dead horse, its just all in good fun

10:01 <GamerGirlBLU> with wings, you can be athletic and fast or you can be skilled and graceful

10:01 <VinylScratch> or clumsy as a rock

10:02 *** Gigabit is now known as GigaZzz

10:02 <GamerGirlBLU> with magic, you can be really powerful or you can create things that are beautiful

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10:02 <GamerGirlBLU> with both, you can be either one while also having a good time

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10:03 <GamerGirlBLU> its not about the backstory or why theyre like that, its all about having fun and being creative while creating your pony

10:04 <GamerGirlBLU> also i got a deviantart if you wanna check it out

10:04 <GamerGirlBLU> same name as this one

10:04 <GamerGirlBLU> i sometimes draw ponies but i mainly draw things from games or youtubers

10:05 <GamerGirlBLU> cya

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10:15 <Indifference> I'm going to go attempt sleep again. Later, everypony

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10:20 <Marking> somebody ONCE TOLD ME

10:20 <Marking> The world is gonna roll me

10:20 <Gilda> Hey, look who's learned to capitalize.

10:21 <Marking> Woah, meanie alert.

10:21 <VinylScratch> Well, it IS gilda

10:21 <VinylScratch> she's a meaniebeak

10:21 <Marking> Yup, that is true.

10:21 <Marking> Meaniemcmeanie pants!

10:21 <Marking> How are you beautiful people doing tonight?

10:22 * VinylScratch is doing fine, but has to go for a moment. XD

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10:23 <Marking> Oh no! She l-left me h-hear with...*gulp* Gilda!

10:23 <Gilda> That was mean? I thought it was a statement of fact. Just 'cuz I didn't say it in 4r7a8i9n3b12o13w6s1 like a good pony?

10:25 <Marking> Ummm

10:25 <Valiant> italics

10:25 <Marking> Werent you supposed to be making friend Gilda?

10:26 <Gilda> That my thing now? Huh. Nopony told me.

10:27 <Marking> Well, somebody woke up all misses grumpy pants.

10:27 <Marking> hows your day been going?

10:28 * Valiant sits on Gilda

10:28 <Gilda> Dunno yet. It just started.

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10:29 <Marking> You have breakfast yet?

10:30 <Gilda> Nope.

10:30 <Indifference> Meh, I'm far too impatient for insomnia tonight.

10:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: The First Half of Season 5 Hits Netflix Today!  [ http://tinyurl.com/o3lg4tx ]

10:31 <Marking> Maybe you should have something to eat, that always work to set a good day on its trail

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10:32 <Seoson> "Season 5 Hits Netflix Today" yiha :D

10:33 <Indifference> "Season 3" seth needs to proofread more often

10:33 <Gilda> Season 5, dude.

10:34 <Seoson> He meant in the text.

10:34 <Indifference> Yeah

10:34 <Indifference> Typos

10:34 <Gilda> Eh. I'm indifferent.

10:34 <Indifference> So are numbers

10:35 <Indifference> 3=5

10:36 <Marking> Be happy.

10:37 <Seoson> Don't worry

10:37 * Schism reads the comic 'Cassiopeia Quinn', about a space pirate with a heart of gold.

10:38 * Indifference starts humming

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10:41 <ian> Hello everypony

10:42 <Seoson> Hello ian and welcome *fake smile* welcome (back) to our channel :D

10:42 <ian> "fake smile"?

10:43 <Indifference> Welcome

10:43 <ian> I see our motivational speakers have also been to visit you

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10:44 <Seoson> http://goo.gl/Pidz7D

10:44 <ConfusionRift> I have retuuurned.

10:44 <Verandure> Welcome to the back.

10:44 <ian> Hi Rifty :-)

10:44 <ConfusionRift> It's good to be on the back, again.

10:45 <ConfusionRift> Wouldn't the front be considered the back's back?

10:45 <Verandure> Wouldn't "behind your back" mean in front of you?

10:45 <ian> It's good to be in the back, again

10:45 <ian> Yes

10:45 <ian> No

10:45 <ConfusionRift> I know, right?

10:46 <ian> It's like "behind your sofa" except it's behind your back

10:47 <Verandure> But your sofa faces outwards, away from the wall. Therefore, being behind the sofa is being in front of the back of the sofa!

10:47 <ian> No, it's being behind the back of the sofa

10:47 <ian> do you guys use "cup" and "glass" the same?

10:47 <Verandure> Yes.

10:48 <Verandure> And I use plate and saucer interchangeably.

10:48 <ian> can a glass be made of plastic?

10:48 <Verandure> Yes.

10:48 <Verandure> glass can't, but a glass can.

10:48 <Verandure> Indefinite articles, yo. =P

10:49 <ian> Definite articles would be fine too

10:49 <ian> Or possesive pronouns

10:49 <ian> My glass

10:49 <ian> It's the difference between the adjective and the noun that matters

10:49 <Seoson> I'd differentiate between a mug (made of plastic), a cup (has a handle), and a glass (made of glass)

10:49 <ian> A cup has a handle?

10:50 <Verandure> Some do, yeah.

10:50 <ian> But not necessarily

10:50 <ian> Most mugs are made of ceramic

10:50 <ian> To me, a mug is the one that always has a handle

10:50 <Verandure> Stein.

10:51 <ian> That's a mug with a lid, right?

10:51 <Seoson> Well it's a cup of tea/coffe and not a mug of tea/coffe , isn't it?

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10:51 <ian> But a cup of coffee can be served in a mug

10:52 * Schism giggles at a quote from Babylon 5. "Six thousand years of recorded history, a history that includes remarkable composers, astonishing symphonies! But, what is the one song that half of them sing to their children generation after generation?"

10:52 <ian> Probably something in Chinese

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10:52 <Schism> At which point he describes the Hokey Pokey.

10:52 <ian> Ahahaha, jms don't ever change

10:52 <Schism> "It doesn't mean anything!  I've been studying it for seven days!"

10:53 <ian> Londo, right?

10:53 <Schism> Aye.

10:53 <ian> Love that show

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10:57 <LunaticHell> mornin' equestria

10:57 <Verandure> Mornevenight.

10:57 <ian> Yo

10:57 <ian> What's happening?

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11:04 <LunaticHell> Idunno

11:05 <LunaticHell> I just joined.

11:05 <ian> I mean, what's happening with you?

11:05 <ConfusionRift> Hey there, Lunatic.

11:05 <LunaticHell> hi ConfusionRift

11:05 <LunaticHell> With me? Whatever do you mean?

11:05 <VinylScratch> He means how are you

11:05 <ian> How's it going?

11:05 <LunaticHell> oh

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11:06 <ConfusionRift> It seems the rails were already derailed. :P

11:06 <LunaticHell> *ahem* well, I'm doing rather ok, how about you? (weired way to phrase it, though)

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11:08 <ConfusionRift> Just chillin' and stuff.

11:08 <ian> Not much, just have a few minutes before I go back to work.

11:09 <ian> Things are good overall. I'm now an assistant at a teacher training seminar. It's somewhat interesting.

11:10 <ian> http://pastebin.com/7NvC6Fn2

11:10 <ConfusionRift> Got impaled the past few days at work, resting to compensate.

11:10 <ian> Ouch, literally?

11:12 <ConfusionRift> 60-75 pallets to take out. Since I seemed as the more competent one for the task, they gave me that task for several days in a row. That, and they were micromanaging every task. I end up leaving late, and unfinished.

11:12 <ian> Oh, I hope you reported the overtime.

11:13 <ConfusionRift> I'm part-time, so they just compensate without paying overtime.

11:13 <ian> Oh

11:13 <ian> I think there are laws about the maximum number of hours you're allowed to work in a day though

11:13 * ConfusionRift shrugs.

11:14 <ConfusionRift> Some full-timers work 10-12 hours a day.

11:14 <ian> You have to plan for the long term, which means your health is probably more important than money

11:14 <ConfusionRift> They don't care.

11:15 <ian> You do though, don't you?

11:15 <ConfusionRift> Of course. There's a reason why I called in sick today.

11:16 <ian> OK

11:16 <ian> Well, you have my well wishes for your recovery

11:16 <ConfusionRift> Well, I got moved to dayshift. So all should be going for the better.

11:18 <Tirek> I hurt like hell

11:18 <Tirek> Again

11:19 * Schism offers Tirek a flax seed pack pulled from the freezer.

11:19 * ConfusionRift rolls around.

11:19 * Schism boops ConfusionRift with a curry on rice.

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11:21 <ConfusionRift> Riiiice!

11:21 <ian> If I had to choose between rice and bread, permanently, I'd be filled with despair

11:22 <SkunkStripe> Are we talking about splatfest?

11:23 <ConfusionRift> Not really.

11:23 <SkunkStripe> oh

11:23 <ConfusionRift> But I sense someone wants to discuss of it.

11:23 <Schism> We did just pick up a 20-cup rice cooker.  On the grounds that hey, starch!

11:24 <ian> That's a lot of rice. Big family?

11:24 <SkunkStripe> nah that was just the same choice as the first japanese splatfest so thats what I thought you were talking about

11:24 <ian> Also, I gotta go in a few minutes

11:24 <Schism> Nah, it was just on the cheap.  Like $15 for the thing.

11:24 <ian> splatfest?

11:25 <Schism> The pot we previously used to cook rice tends to result in the starchy water spilling over onto the burner and making a great big mess.

11:25 <ian> Alright, I'm out

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11:27 <ConfusionRift> I suppose a large pot would be better for that situation. And yeah, the spills suck when they happen.

11:39 <ConfusionRift> Don't know why, I was reminded of our last pressure cooker incident.

11:40 <Tirek> Bedtime.

11:40 <Tirek> Or, I hope for it to be.

11:40 <ConfusionRift> Laters, Tirek.

11:40 <Tirek> I have three more days of hell this week.

11:41 <Tirek> I'm glad I didn't start at peak, and I'm dreading it.

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11:53 * Schism passes ConfusionRift a plush Tiny Box Tim. Or Companion Cube. Or things like that.

11:57 * ConfusionRift takes all of Schism's plushes. :P

11:57 <Schism> No!  My collection of stylized cubes.

12:00 <SkunkStripe> You know whats the worst kind of losing

12:00 <SkunkStripe> When you are winning a whole match and everything is in the bag, and then the enemy just manages to get one point higher at the last second.

12:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Early Morning Discussion #255 [ http://tinyurl.com/o7wg8km ]

12:00 * ConfusionRift sees thousands cubes, all of them in a different style. Even one in his own scheme.

12:00 <Schism> On the other hand, that's the best kind of winning.

12:01 <VinylScratch> It's also when you know you've had a good round

12:01 <Schism> When your team has been behind the whole game, and snatches victory from the jaws of defeat!

12:01 <VinylScratch> I won a few rounds of splatoon that way last night

12:01 <Schism> But yeah, the best rounds are close like that.

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12:10 <SkunkStripe> So it was you

12:10 <ConfusionRift> No... maybe... perhaps... probably...

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12:14 <Schism> Things I Will Not Do In Equestria #71235: No introducing Quidditch to the pegasi.

12:15 <SkunkStripe> they probably already play it

12:15 <Schism> Or some variation, probably.

12:16 <SkunkStripe> I like to imagine they play a game that resembles blitz ball but without the water, and that thats their main sport besides racing

12:18 <Schism> http://www.nuklearpower.com/2007/04/26/episode-838-no-air-down-there/

12:19 <SkunkStripe> I really like the opening to We Bare Bears. It reminds me of a sitcom

12:20 <ConfusionRift> That's because... (looks around, then whispers) ...it iiiissssss. :P

12:20 <SkunkStripe> I know right

12:21 <SkunkStripe> but thats not gonna stop me from drawing them in the Friends opening

12:23 <SkunkStripe> Its also just been a while sence I watched a show with an opening like that.

12:23 <VinylScratch> x3

12:24 <Seoson> Oh Blitzball - Final Fantasy X good times ;-)

12:24 <SkunkStripe> Its just really noticable because cartoon themesongs are usually either A:Instrumental or B: Incredibly specific to the cartoon, and could not possibly be used in another context

12:28 <Schism> I think that there's got to be at least one minigame in every Final Fantasy game which is equivalent to smashing your head against a brick wall until one or the other breaks.

12:28 <Schism> In FF6, it was the Colosseum.  In FF7, it was the Golden Saucer.  In FF8, it was Triple Triad.  In FF9, it was Triple Triad with a twist of lime.

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12:29 <VinylScratch> I liked that twist of lime

12:29 <Seoson> I only ever played Final Fantasy X, really enjoyed it and never touched a FF game since.

12:29 <Schism> I enjoy it too, yes.  It's a fun little game.  And Triple Triad is great so long as you avoid the worst of the rules.

12:29 <SkunkStripe> Nah FF8 cards you could think your way through. FF9 cards make no sense though

12:30 <Schism> They do, it's just incredibly esoteric.

12:30 * ConfusionRift shivers.

12:30 <SkunkStripe> I am impressed that pretty much every npc in the game can play cards with you, but on the otherhand everyone has really bad cards.

12:31 * VinylScratch shakes ConfusionRift

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12:31 <Schism> If you wanted a full deck in FF8, you'd have to challenge at least one NPC when you were in the middle of a building that was about to blow up, if memory doesn't serve me wrong.

12:32 *** zz_CyberJacob is now known as CyberJacob

12:32 <SkunkStripe> Of course. If it was otherwise it would be a failure of rpgs

12:32 <Schism> Their reaction?  "You want to play cards NOW?!  ... well, okay, but only one game."

12:32 <SkunkStripe> And I mean that seriously. That sort of thing is the good stuff.

12:33 <Schism> Of course, then you'd break your Gilgamesh card for 100 Auras and just limit break Ultimecia into oblivion.

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12:33 <Schism> Or was it Hero Potions?  Eh.

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12:35 <LunaticHell> Oh yes, 10 Hero Potions.

12:36 <LunaticHell> Schism: Don't look at me like that, I don't know why I remember that stuff, either.

12:36 *** Eventide|Sleepies is now known as Eventide

12:37 * LunaticHell hugs VinylScratch without second thoughts.

12:37 <Schism> LunaticHell, hey, not played FF8 in ages myself.

12:37 <Schism> I just know that breaking down a Gilgamesh card is a wonderful way to just eliminate Ultimecia in three easy steps.

12:37 <LunaticHell> Last time I did, I played it on PS1

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12:38 * VinylScratch should probably reacquire 9 and play through it using names from here on characters. XD

12:38 <LunaticHell> You could enter the battle with squall on low health and use the hero potions to keep you alive while delivering utimate pain with his limit break attacks.

12:38 <Schism> LunaticHell, I may or may not have a physical copy of Final Fantasy 8 for PC, and accordingly, play it instead on a PSX emulator due to the fact that the PC version was made of absolute fail.

12:38 <Koroshi-yas> Guys, is there anyone who has the pack with Koroshi-ya's music, or has some of his tracks?

12:39 <VinylScratch> The what?

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12:39 <VinylScratch> Pack for?

12:39 <LunaticHell> Schism: well there is a version buyable on steam

12:39 <Schism> I've paid for the game once already.

12:39 <LunaticHell> Your reason is sound.

12:39 <SkunkStripe> PS1 copy or bust

12:40 <Schism> LunaticHell: Aura does the trick.  It's a status effect which causes the game to create Limit Breaks randomly.  And then you mash Triangle until the party member can use theirs.

12:40 <VinylScratch> { Until inevitable remake in 20 years time }

12:40 <Koroshi-yas> I'm collecting his tracks since he deleted all from his channel

12:40 <LunaticHell> Oh yes, that.

12:40 <Schism> And then you just spam the hell out of it.

12:40 <LunaticHell> So it's covering vs collecting tracks, eh?

12:41 <SkunkStripe> whens the FF8 speedrun?

12:41 <LunaticHell> Schism: I still remember some items were expensive as hell to create.

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12:41 <SkunkStripe> Do it now Lunitic! Do it now!

12:41 <LunaticHell> Schism: Like trying to create a phoenix wing...

12:41 <LunaticHell> or phoenix soul (I think)

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12:42 <Schism> Oh dear.  FF8 is... not the sort of game you can easily speedrun.

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12:42 <Schism> A low-level run, by all means.  A speedrun?  That's... a little different.

12:42 <Koroshi-yas> Schism, sorry I didn't understand it. My English isn't perfect

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12:42 <Schism> We're on two different conversations, Koroshi-yas.

12:43 <Koroshi-yas> oh, sorry

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12:43 <ConfusionRift> And then he leaves.

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12:44 <Schism> Is it just me?  Is everyone in this internet insane, or is it just me?

12:44 <Sunset-Shimmer> Nope

12:44 <Sunset-Shimmer> it's you too

12:44 <Schism> Ah right.  How could I forget.

12:44 <Schism> "If you weren't mad, you wouldn't have come here."

12:45 <Sunset-Shimmer> There you go!

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12:46 <LunaticHell> 50 phoenix down > 1 mega phoenix; 60 mega phoenix > 1 phoenix spirit; with 1 down costing 500 gil, meaning the creation of one "Phoenix Spirit" would cost 1.500.000 gil.

12:46 <LunaticHell> Schism: What a rip-off, eh?

12:47 <Schism> Pretty much.  Of course, there are far superior options.

12:47 <Schism> I seem to recall an infinite-gil loop near the very beginning.

12:48 <LunaticHell> Yes, but some do have larger draw-backs, coventing cards into items is a thing I would rather avoid.

12:48 <Schism> On a low-level run, converting enemies into cards is an excellent way to avoid the acquisition of exp, and converting cards into items into spells is a great way to boost your chars' stats.

12:48 <LunaticHell> Well ok, one special card yields 99 mega-elexir, which does sounds like a fair trade.

12:49 <Schism> Yeah, but that's a one-time card, period.

12:49 <LunaticHell> It wouldn't be such a deal if it wasn't a limited offer.

12:49 <Schism> True.

12:51 <LunaticHell> But true enough, it wouldn't be a big loss due to the fact that one could just trade the card in just before the final battle, as this game did not have a post-game scenario.

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12:53 <Schism> Indeed.  Really, no other reason to collect cards aside from 'hey, look, I've got a full deck!'

12:53 * ConfusionRift thuds and rolls.

12:54 * Schism boops ConfusionRift with some veggie khorma.

12:54 <SkunkStripe> that 100% run dawg

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13:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto:   [ http://tinyurl.com/ocrm9r8 ]

13:01 <Schism> "One minute, there were these door-to-door door salesmen..."

13:02 <SkunkStripe> I swear the game intentionally puts you against a bunch of really good players whenever you are about to rank up

13:03 <Schism> That would be clever.  Determine whether or not you're ready to join the rank of the /skilled./

13:03 <Finwe> Mesrrs Schism, SkunkStripe and LunaticHell.

13:03 <Finwe> Messrs*

13:03 * Schism rolls over to Finwe and doffs his curry.

13:03 * Finwe doffs his hat.

13:03 <Finwe> Good afternoon, gentlemen.

13:03 <LunaticHell> Messer, Finwe. *snuggling is part of a compleate breakfast*

13:05 <LunaticHell> Schism: A door to door salesman is part of a compleate breakfast, at least for a yōkai. ^_^

13:05 <Schism> LunaticHell, in this case, a door to door /door/ salesman.  Asking if the customer needs any more doors in their home.

13:06 <Schism> And offering a consultation.

13:06 * Finwe snuggles a Schism and a LunaticHell.

13:06 <LunaticHell> Funny enough I have some places where an additional door might come in handy...

13:06 * Schism boops Finwe on the nose with some vindaloo on rice.

13:07 <LunaticHell> I have two in-between rooms where one door per room has intentionally has been left out.

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13:07 <LunaticHell> I need has more coffee, if I randomly add has to my lines.

13:07 <LunaticHell> Welcome has, VinylScratch.

13:09 <Finwe> Schism: Are you sure that it is spicy enough?

13:09 <VinylScratch> <3

13:09 <Finwe> Mr VinylScratch.

13:09 * Finwe doffs his hat.

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13:10 <Schism> Oh, it's not spicy enough, not by a long shot.

13:11 <Schism> I can, at least, fix that.

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13:13 <SkunkStripe> There! I got my B rank back again and didn't have to fight a week for it this time

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13:14 <ian> Hello again

13:14 <Finwe> Mr ian.

13:14 * Finwe doffs his hat.

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13:15 <ian> "'The mind, once stretched by a new idea, never returns to its original dimensions." —Ralph Waldo Emerson

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13:17 <Finwe> Good evening. Tonight on 'It's the Mind', we examine the phenomenon of déjà vu. That strange feeling we sometimes get that we've lived through something before, that what is happening now has already happened.

13:18 <Finwe> Tonight on 'It's the Mind' we examine the phenomenon of déjà vu, that strange feeling we sometimes get that we've ...

13:18 <Finwe> <.<

13:18 <Finwe> >.>

13:18 <ian> haha

13:18 <Finwe> Anyway, tonight on 'It's the Mind' we examine the phenomenon of déjà vu, that strange...

13:19 <DARK> hello =)

13:19 <LunaticHell> Anyhow, time to shower me clean, be right back.

13:19 <DinkyDoo> asked what features windows 8 removed that window 7 had

13:19 <Finwe> Who needs Windows 8? Windows 10 was released yesterday.

13:20 <Finwe> o3o

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13:20 <Finwe> On the other hoof, who needs Windows when there's Linux.

13:20 <DinkyDoo> all i got was whining and not a single awnser... only one that was told i pointed out that 8 did indeed have you just has to listen to the tutorial

13:21 <DinkyDoo> it was a question i asked becouse a user was going on about how wonderful windows 7 was compaired to 8

13:21 <ian> http://www.osnews.com/story/27969/Why_did_Microsoft_skip_Windows_9_

13:21 <ian> DinkyDoo: they didn't think very far. The classic Start Menu.

13:22 <Finwe> Any other version of Windows is wonderful compared to Vista.

13:22 <DinkyDoo> yes vista was a feasco

13:22 <VinylScratch> I use 8 and have no problems with it

13:22 <VinylScratch> well, 8.1 but details.

13:22 * Finwe noms on VinylScratch's details.

13:22 <DinkyDoo> you want to find something? pull up the intergrated search poof! its just as fast or faster!

13:23 <DinkyDoo> 8 was better then 8.1 i think but thats because it has thing i dont need on it

13:23 <Schism> 8 and 8.1 have some very useful features which I absolutely love.  At the same time, 8 and 8.1 PREVENT F8 FROM WORKING.

13:23 <VinylScratch> It was just remapped. :P

13:24 <Schism> No, I mean that you can't use F8 to boot into safe mode.

13:24 <SkunkStripe> Even after I got used to 8.1 I still didn't like its style at all

13:24 <SkunkStripe> and found stuff opening up in weird ways when I didn't want it to

13:24 <VinylScratch> Never found that myself

13:24 <VinylScratch> it feels pretty much as familiar as 7 ever did for me

13:25 <VinylScratch> I rarely ever even use the tile screen, lol - mostly desktop

13:25 <Finwe> Win 7 and Win 2000 were rather okay.

13:25 <DinkyDoo> same i cant remember the last time i used tiles but still it nice to have it there if i want to open shopping apps

13:26 <ian> I have Windows 7 on one computer and 8.1 on another. I prefer 7's interface.

13:26 <ian> I loved 7's Start menu

13:26 <VinylScratch> Eh, I have everything I could need either shortcutted or on the taskbar, more or less

13:27 * VinylScratch shrugs, did the same with 7 too

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13:27 <DinkyDoo> i found windows 7 to be no better then p

13:28 <DinkyDoo> win 8 was indeed a upgrade for me

13:28 <ConfusionRift> The heck is p?

13:28 <DinkyDoo> there is a letrer missing in front of it that key is broken on my keybord

13:28 <DinkyDoo> think

13:31 <ConfusionRift> p.... p.... p... ppppppp....

13:31 * ConfusionRift raspberries at DinkyDoo. XP

13:31 <ian> Augh my connection is slow as molasses right now. Maybe someone's torrenting.

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13:32 <DinkyDoo> what came before windows 7?

13:33 <DinkyDoo> (enter letter here)p

13:33 <ian> Vista

13:33 <VinylScratch> Veeeesta

13:33 <DinkyDoo> you get it?

13:33 <DinkyDoo> before that vista is lie

13:33 <VinylScratch> Not so much

13:33 <ian> We need Vista to keep up the "every other version is good" rule

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13:35 <ian> If anyone tells you that such a person speaks ill of you, don't make excuses about what is said of you, but answer: "He does not know my other faults, else he would not have mentioned only these."

13:35 <VinylScratch> ?

13:36 <VinylScratch> Where'd that even come from, lol

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13:36 <ian> Epictetus, who I'm reading

13:37 <ConfusionRift> Well, I'm very tired. i want to get some sleep before the heat sets in.

13:37 <ConfusionRift> See ya laters everypony.

13:37 <ian> Gnight

13:38 <Finwe> Fare thee well, ConfusionRift.

13:40 <SkunkStripe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQdKkvERi6c

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13:57 <Schism> Here, have a Sweetie Bot.  https://derpibooru.org/944963

14:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Spotlight Music: Generosity (Sayonara Remix)  / Reverse Funk [ http://tinyurl.com/q2huw3j ]

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14:07 <LunaticHell> I have returned.

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14:10 <DinkyDoo> cant wait for win 10 upgrade

14:10 <DinkyDoo> wanna see whats new

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14:18 <FN> Well pay-per-app: that's what new

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14:19 <FN> Also a privacy policy from winders that allows Microsoft overlods to store and sell your private info as they please

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14:38 <Thelema5> Good morning, everypony.

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14:52 <Thelema5> Did anypony else notice that Seth over at EQD is pretty much the only one posting updates lately?

14:52 <Gilda> Nope, but others might be on vacation.

14:53 <ADragonDreaming> Pay-Per-App is new?

14:53 <ADragonDreaming> I thought that was the standard model.

14:54 <FN> Before some apps were the default on winders, not on w10

14:54 <ADragonDreaming> Eh. Just means less bloat to start.

14:55 <KooK_> yawnage

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14:55 <FN> Well if you put it that was

14:55 <FN> way+

14:56 <FN> *

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14:57 <ADragonDreaming> The only things I want my new computers to have are basic system level things, like Explorer and control panel and etc.

14:58 <ADragonDreaming> A web browser so I can download the browser I actually want

14:58 <ADragonDreaming> And if they're feeling generous, Word.

14:58 <FN> Well I use open.org anyways so I don't need excel

14:58 <KooK> Then you want Linux

14:58 <FN> Or word

14:58 <ADragonDreaming> KooK: No, I don't.

14:58 <ADragonDreaming> I would have to learn Linux.

14:58 <KooK> you would love it

14:58 <ADragonDreaming> I don't want to.

14:59 <KooK> it never crashes

14:59 <FN> Pfff that is not much "learning"

14:59 <KooK> prooooooooooomise

14:59 <ADragonDreaming> Uh huh.

14:59 <FN> Just as much as learning new controls on a new game that came out

14:59 <FN> You never seem to scoff at that

15:00 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah. The new game isn't the underpinning to half of my lifestyle :D

15:01 <ADragonDreaming> I have nothing against Linux. But for me, there's no significant carrot in the switching.

15:02 <KooK> I tried it, wasn't super impressed

15:02 <KooK> all I know is, if the Fedex guy comes while I'm in the shower and he needs a signature, I shall be sad.

15:02 <FN> I respect your choice, so I'll stop advertising

15:02 <KooK> Paif for overnight shipping

15:02 <ADragonDreaming> The solution is to not shower.

15:02 <KooK> gross

15:02 <ADragonDreaming> Then once he arrives, you can shower.

15:03 <KooK> I cannot do this, it is not in my programming

15:03 <FN> Unrelated: all the delivery guys now use Samsung tablets with wacom innards for signatures

15:04 <FN> No more clunky proprietary devices for that purpose: just samsung tablet with proprietary OS

15:04 <FN> Tablets or Smartphones

15:04 <FN> I like this unification of standards

15:04 <KooK> freaking sore, I spent all yesterday swapping the engine and transmission from my car, and cleaning a few things up.  After I shower I must finish it up.

15:05 <KooK> Tonight, I will find out if the transmission is in good shape or not.

15:05 <FN> I bet you'd love to have a tethered exosuit to aid you in heavy car part lifting

15:05 <FN> Iunno why it is not a thing yet

15:05 <KooK> only if it were air conditioned

15:06 <FN> Pfff, that is a no-brainer

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15:06 <KooK> Frankly, I just don't want to be in a  pool of my own sweat.

15:06 <KooK> Came in last night and I could wring out my shirt, it was soaked.

15:06 <FN> http://www.veskimo.com/cooling-hydration-backpack-system.html

15:07 <Thelema5> Would you prefer to be in a pool of somebody else's sweat?

15:07 <FN> Just add this to your exosuit and you're good

15:07 <KooK> I would be so uncomfortable I might vomit, if that were the case Thelema5

15:07 <Thelema5> Making things even more unpleasant.

15:07 <KooK> Alright, shower then car, bbl

15:07 <Thelema5> Good luck!

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15:33 <DinkyDoo> !seen strait

15:33 <DerpyBot> DinkyDoo: Sorry, I haven't seen strait lately.

15:33 <DinkyDoo> !kill

15:33 * DerpyBot grabs DinkyDoo and flies off in the general direction of Sugarcube Corner

15:34 * DerpyBot returns with a cupcake with DinkyDoo's name etched into the frosting

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15:51 <KooK> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Z9cjKkqn4

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16:02 <LunaticHell> mh

16:04 * VinylScratch boops LunaticHell

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16:21 <LightningCrash> Good morning, everyone.

16:21 <LightningCrash> I hope you're all clean. :p

16:23 <VinylScratch> More or less?

16:23 <Unixkitty> What kind of question is that in a public room anyway?

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16:25 <LightningCrash> > Public room

16:25 <LightningCrash> See? I don't wanna catch the flu from anyone.

16:26 <Unixkitty> I honestly have no idea who you're trying to make laugh here.

16:27 <LightningCrash> I'm not trying to make anyone laugh, I'm just acting stupid and hoping someone would play along.

16:27 <LightningCrash> I see that isn't going to happen. :p

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16:28 <VinylScratch> :P Clearly

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16:45 <LunaticHell> I just found something frightening.

16:46 <FruitNibbler> ?

16:46 <LunaticHell> "Japanese live action drama series based on the manga series “Death Note” " - full stop, walk slowly backwards in direction exist and chant "nope", this is the only couse of action in this situation.

16:46 <LunaticHell> Yes, it's out.

16:47 <LunaticHell> The thought frightens me more than watching let's plays of fnaf 4, it was rather tame, actually.

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17:00 <MDP> morning everypony

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17:01 <Vulpor> Hey all

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17:02 <MDP> yo

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17:12 <Thelema5> Hi, Vulpor!

17:12 * MDP welcomes PinkieShy with the canterlot hoof trotting greeting thingie twilight does in human form in equestria girls and ends up being totally awkward because no one in the human world does that.

17:12 <Thelema5> Oh, he's gone already.

17:13 * MDP has a sad cuz he typed all that out for no reason

17:14 <Thelema5> No, PinkieShy is still here, MDP.  I was speaking of Vulpor.

17:15 * MDP feels better.

17:15 <Thelema5> Also, hello, MDP.  Welcome to the channel!

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17:15 <MDP> Thanks.

17:15 <Thelema5> Sorry I wasn't around to greet you properly when you entered- I was busy with work.

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17:16 <Thelema5> Also, hello to everypony else who recently joined!

17:16 <PinkieShy> Mdp I'm here

17:17 <PinkieShy> How many ppl you think upgrade to Windows 10 by now? Maybe a million?

17:17 <Thelema5> I have no idea.

17:17 <MDP> I upgraded yesterday. so far so good no problems, quick and painless

17:17 <Thomas> 2

17:18 <Thomas> ...million,564,322....ish.

17:18 <PinkieShy> Mdp I did as soon as it got released and I had some issues but fixed.. Gonna update my dad's acer X 603 desktop

17:19 <MDP> what did you have?

17:19 <PinkieShy> 8.1 originally my laptop had 8.0

17:20 <MDP> hmm i upgraded from  8.1 as well. only thing that didnt work afterwords was my  audio interface for  music recording... which was just a driver issue I quickly fixed by updating it

17:21 <Unixkitty> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx

17:21 <Nilak> I'm sticking with 7 until I'm sure 10 is worth it, that they've gotten most if not all the bugs worked out.

17:21 <MDP> I have a tripple screen display, kinda wish the taskbar would stay on the center screen instead of spreading accross all 3 but  thats a minor nitpick

17:22 <MDP> so far I'd say 10 is on par with  7

17:22 <Thomas> !s5

17:22 <DerpyBot> The next episode doesn't air in 1d:23h:07m:49s

17:22 <MDP> I even gained some fps in certain games

17:22 <MDP> so far no crashes, no glitches or anything odd.

17:23 <MDP> definately liek the start menu being back... cortana is kinda cool.

17:23 <PinkieShy> Mdp gateway says my model is compatible

17:24 <MDP> then  go for it

17:24 <MDP> I built my pc almost 4 years ago

17:24 <MDP> runs fine

17:24 <PinkieShy> Only issue I had start menu, CPU running a little hot like 77c at most, and some random pop sound from speakers but that stopped

17:24 <MDP> weird

17:24 <PinkieShy> Mdp I had typo

17:25 <MDP> ah

17:25 <MDP> my cpu is running a  cool 41c

17:25 <PinkieShy> Ne56r isnt listed as compatible model so its not compatible in the eyes of acer/gateway

17:25 <MDP> which was pretty normal   before upgrading

17:26 <MDP> that sucks

17:26 <PinkieShy> I could always get a fan that you plug into USB and laptop sits on it.. Hmm

17:26 <MDP> there's that...

17:26 <MDP> ah you're on a laptop

17:26 <MDP> then id expect hotter temps but 778 is pretty high

17:26 <PinkieShy> Mdp but I am on windows 10 it works fine if I over look the temperature

17:27 <PinkieShy> I used speccy to find out the temperature

17:27 <PinkieShy> My CPU is Intel Pentium b960

17:27 <MDP> mm, speccy  seems  decently accurate, its allways off a tad from my speed fan temps though

17:27 <MDP> by like 2 degrees

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17:30 <MDP> Still learnign how to work deviant art lol. been drawing for 20 years and this is my first time on it

17:30 <MDP> though ive heard of it before

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17:31 <MDP> I've only got one pic up at the moment though...

17:31 <MDP> workign on finishing another but im not sure what i want to do with it just yet

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17:43 <DARK> re =)

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17:47 <Thelema5> MDP, would you like to share the image you have up on dA?

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17:49 <MDP> sure

17:50 <MDP> my username on there is ArtPonyMDP

17:50 <Schism> Randomly: Here, have a Lyra.  https://derpibooru.org/946777

17:51 <MDP> ewww.. I should draw a lyra

17:51 <MDP> er not ewww i meant ooooooh

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17:56 <MDP> @Thelema5 did you find it?

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17:58 <KooK> I'm stuck until the delivery dude comes.  I need to grab some sandpaper before I can continue anything but...

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18:00 <MDP> I think thelema5 died

18:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Nightmare Star Poster at BronyCon This Weekend  [ http://tinyurl.com/owky2yh ]

18:01 <Moonlightning> You guys heard about Microsoft's new privacy policy?

18:01 <MDP> no... why?

18:01 <KooK> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYFJUeQIpTk

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18:02 <MDP> =.=

18:02 <Moonlightning> Oh, nothing…just that it basically allows them to collect any of your information at their discretion. Private files and stuff.

18:02 <MDP> good times...

18:02 <MDP> time to  get an external ssd i guess

18:04 <Moonlightning> Presumably, if it's accessible to Windows, they'll get at it. Just putting stuff on an external disk won't do you any good, unless you never ever plug it into a Windows system.

18:04 <MDP> yeah.

18:04 <MDP> then again they could get at it before too

18:04 <Moonlightning> Touché. I haven't used Windows at home in ages.

18:04 <MDP> if they really wanted. how do you think google knows you so well

18:05 <MDP> THE INTERNET NEVER FORGETS

18:05 <Moonlightning> This goes a bit farther. Google collects /personal information/ on the level of contacts, calendar entries, looking through your Gmail account.

18:05 <Moonlightning> /This/ Microsoft thing is—as far as I can tell—/any and all files accessible to the operating system./

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18:06 <MDP> yeah. doesnt surprise me

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18:06 <Moonlightning> Anyway, just thought ponies should know. Go read the thing.

18:06 <Moonlightning> >> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx

18:06 <Moonlightning> don't forget to hit /expand all/ at the top

18:07 <MDP> thaks

18:07 <MDP> thanks

18:07 <Schism> "You have choices about the data we collect. When you are asked to provide personal data, you may decline. But if you choose not to provide data that is necessary to provide a service, you may not be able to use some features or services."

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18:08 <Cepheid> Hoi hoi.

18:08 * Schism offers Cepheid some chicken tikka masala on rice.

18:08 <KooK> Comeon Fedex and UPS

18:09 <Moonlightning> Schism: yeah, like the /booting up the computer/ feature

18:09 <Moonlightning> “Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to [blah blah blah]”

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18:11 <ADragonDreaming> Fortunately, I don't use Microsoft services for emails and etc.

18:11 <ADragonDreaming> And I won't be using any of their cloud services.

18:11 <MDP> yeh im not much for the cloud  unless its nessarary like email

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18:11 <ADragonDreaming> But, you know.

18:12 <Cepheid> Honestly?  Don't use Live, don't use Cortana, don't log into Microsoft services.

18:12 <Cepheid> That's all there is to it.

18:12 <ADragonDreaming> I'm not adopting Windows 10 for a few months.

18:12 <Moonlightning> Cepheid: more like /don't use Windows/. Did you see that snippet?

18:12 <Cepheid> Your PC will still boot up with Windows 10.  You don't need to log in to a microsoft service to use it.

18:12 <Moonlightning> They can collect “files in private folders”. i.e. literally anything on the machine or connected volumes.

18:12 <ADragonDreaming> Moonlightning: I don't like MAC OS.

18:12 <Moonlightning> ADragonDreaming: find a Linux distro. Ubuntu is easy to use.

18:12 <MDP> I havent had any probs with it thus far and im runnign win10

18:12 <ADragonDreaming> No.

18:12 <Cepheid> Moonlightning, are you really that stupid?

18:12 <Moonlightning> MDP: presumably you won't notice is.

18:13 <Moonlightning> I mean, they're not going to pop up a dialog going “Hey, we're just uploading all your stuff to our servers 'cos we think it's necessary”

18:13 <Cepheid> I am not discussing this.   I really don't want to argue against mass stupidity about this.

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18:13 <ADragonDreaming> This is what happens if Windows 10 fails:

18:13 <ADragonDreaming> Windows 7 remains the majority.

18:13 <MDP> truth of it is, reguardless what device you use, if its connected to the internet they CAN get what ever they want if they really want it.

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18:14 <Moonlightning> That's not true, MDP.

18:14 <Cepheid> Even Linux is insecure.

18:14 <Cepheid> AAAHAHAHA.

18:14 <Cepheid> You're freaking kidding me right?

18:14 <ADragonDreaming> Harrumph.

18:14 <ADragonDreaming> Condescension shall be shown the door.

18:14 <Moonlightning> Okay, to be fair, we can't know for sure that //no entity// has the ability to break into a system.

18:15 * Schism disconnects an Ethernet cable. "Yes we can."

18:15 <Schism> <.<  Joking, though.

18:15 <matttheshadowman> Exactly you want to be completely sure noone is taking data from you, disconnect from the internet

18:15 <Cepheid> The way people regularly install software, many with bugs they aren't aware of, and allows connection to the Internet, gives a lot of people with the right knowhow access to your computer.

18:15 <Moonlightning> Nah, 'cos they might be able to point a laser at your window and watch the vibrations that your hard drive makes on it. 9.9

18:15 <MDP> I've ran linux distro's before on a dual boot set up and been hacked, its just far less common because it's nto as mainstream. nothing is secure for ever.

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18:15 <Cepheid> Even Linux software is insecure.

18:16 <Cepheid> Windows just happens to be a target because it's mainstream.

18:16 <Schism> Frightfully so.  It just takes more work to get into Linux systems, at less profit.

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18:16 <Moonlightning> I'm not going for perfect security, Cepheid. That's impossible, as you say.

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18:16 <Moonlightning> I'm just warning people of the blatant gaping privacy hole Microsoft's made.

18:16 <ADragonDreaming> Oh, sure.

18:16 <Indifference> Good morning ponies

18:16 <ADragonDreaming> But that alone isn't going to halt adoption.

18:16 <Moonlightning> And saying…hay, maybe you wanna jump ship to something that /doesn't/ have a blatant gaping privacy hole.

18:16 <MDP> indeed. the whole world is heading that way.

18:17 <Cepheid> I think once again, you're misinterpreting things.

18:17 <Moonlightning> Your choice. Up to you. Just be warned, this is what's going on (and it's not your only option).

18:17 <wobniaR> If you want the Fluttershy nick back all you have to do is ask Pecan_Pie

18:17 <ADragonDreaming> The problem is that "jumping ship" requires a viable alternative for mass market usage.

18:17 <ADragonDreaming> Linux is not that.

18:17 <Cepheid> Indeed.

18:17 <Cepheid> Neither is Mac OS X.

18:17 <Cepheid> Nor is BSD.

18:17 <ADragonDreaming> Linux's problem is also what's touted as its strength: it is not unified.

18:18 <Moonlightning> Windows is the only thing that has //most of the software.// I'm not denying that.

18:18 <MDP> personally I hate apple's stuff, linux is cool and all but most of the software and games i use isn't  compatible with it, and runnign a windows emulator is redundant and glitchy

18:18 <Cepheid> Every.  Bloody.  Windows release.  Must we go through this stupidity?

18:18 <ADragonDreaming> It also lacks the third party developer support that it requires to be viable as a mass market option.

18:18 <Pecan_Pie> Yes yes I actually would, Wob

18:18 <Moonlightning> But, if you wanna talk about /mass market./ Most people just do Web stuff, don't they? :P

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18:18 <Cepheid> People misinterpreting basic details?  Don't log into Windows Live.  Don't use Cortana, disable the services.

18:18 <ADragonDreaming> Well, no.

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18:18 <Cepheid> And you will be fine.

18:18 <Moonlightning> All you need is a browser. Firefox and Chromium are both on Linux OSes.

18:18 <ADragonDreaming> Cepheid wants to develop programs.

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18:18 <ADragonDreaming> Schism is tech support.

18:19 <Moonlightning> Cepheid: except that their privacy policy says they can pull files from private folders.

18:19 <Cepheid> The only reason they have access to your private folders and stuff is because they are talking about WHAT YOU PUT ON ONE DRIVE.

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18:19 <Cepheid> GOD DAMNIT LISTEN.

18:19 <wobniaR> Oh well that's weird

18:19 <Cepheid> Gods.

18:19 <Cepheid> I'm done with this stupidity.

18:19 <wobniaR> ->> Error 432 - Fluttershy :Services reserved nickname: Registered nickname.

18:19 <Moonlightning> Cepheid: I don't see anything about OneDrive in that paragraph.

18:19 * ADragonDreaming plops a damp washcloth on Cepheid's forehead.

18:19 <MDP> let me put it this way. i don't care about privacy.  it never really existed.

18:19 <ADragonDreaming> Sure it did.

18:19 <Cepheid> Moonlightning, do you know how much bandwidth it would take to collect that kind of information?

18:19 <Cepheid> From all the computers?

18:20 <Cepheid> How hard it would be to find one critical file in a private folder?

18:20 <Moonlightning> Cepheid: they're obviously not going to do it all the time to everyone. But they CAN do it at ANY time to ANYONE, and I don't like that.

18:20 <Moonlightning> That's what I'm warning about.

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18:20 <Cepheid> Enough.

18:20 <matttheshadowman> Moonlightning You don't like what Microsoft does with Windows 10. That's fine noone is forcing you to use it. Just don't force your opinion on others

18:20 <ADragonDreaming> Well, see.

18:20 <Cepheid> If you want to be this paranoid and stupid, fine.

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18:20 * ADragonDreaming facepalms.

18:20 <Moonlightning> matttheshadowman: what's written in their privacy policy is fact, not opinion. I'm warning others of what I see as a dangerous change.

18:20 * MDP also facepalms

18:20 <ADragonDreaming> Moonlightning: the thing is, the privacy policy concern is a reason for people to yell at microsoft that we don't want that.

18:21 <ADragonDreaming> It's not a reason for everyone to jump ship to Linux.

18:21 <Moonlightning> ADragonDreaming: if no one jumps ship, why would they change?

18:21 <ADragonDreaming> Because you don't have to jump ship to not get Windows 10.

18:21 <ADragonDreaming> You just /don't upgrade./

18:21 <Moonlightning> But this doesn't just apply to Windows 10.

18:21 <Moonlightning> It's their general privacy policy.

18:22 <MDP> yeah, i imagine they'll get forced to change it. but im used to companies using all my information. hell even your bank trades your info with crediters and the government. there's no such thing as privacy in todays world

18:22 <ADragonDreaming> General or not, they want Windows 10 to launch well.

18:22 <MDP> yeah

18:22 <ADragonDreaming> Not upgrading is enough of a message.

18:23 <Moonlightning> I would at least expect that things I keep in private folders not related to any kind of Internet service would stay private and not go anywhere without my sending them somewhere.

18:23 <MDP> all i know is in the past 24 hours ive used win10 I liek what i see and havent had any issues, as for privacy issues.. . im kinda meh.

18:23 <ADragonDreaming> Oh, same here.

18:23 <ADragonDreaming> But at present, my OS's don't feature a way for them to get at those files.

18:23 <ADragonDreaming> Without Windows 10, they don't have access to my private files.

18:24 <ADragonDreaming> So in that sense, it's a moot point.

18:24 <MDP> on paper they dont/

18:24 <ADragonDreaming> In reality, as well.

18:24 <ADragonDreaming> As I said, there's nothing built in to prior OS's that gives them that kind of access.

18:24 <matttheshadowman> Thing is you want to use a company's product you have to abide by their rules, you don't like those rules we live in a free market and there are alternatives.

18:25 <ADragonDreaming> To an extent.

18:25 <ADragonDreaming> So long as there is, in fact, a viable alternative.

18:25 <MDP> if they knew what to look for, which im sure they would if they had the desire to take al lyour stuff, they'd simply look at your file tree then go get it.  simple registry ticks wil change all those settings and give access. all they'd have to do is enable a remote desktop situation and go get it

18:26 <ADragonDreaming> MDP: they don't have anything that gives them that kind of remote access.

18:26 <MDP> they just use legalease to cover their tracks now

18:26 <MDP> it can be enabled via other means

18:26 <ADragonDreaming> Remote Desktop connections require the user to agree.

18:26 <MDP> they can install malware that downloads int he background all that stuff.

18:26 <MDP> I know becuase i have physically seen it happen to me.

18:26 <ADragonDreaming> By Microsoft?

18:26 <MDP> by a regular hacker.

18:27 <ADragonDreaming> That's a different situation.

18:27 <ADragonDreaming> There are ways to get access, no one denies that.

18:27 <MDP> microsoft hires hackers to find bugs and holes in secruity.

18:27 <MDP> just as any software company does

18:27 <ADragonDreaming> Well, yes.

18:27 <ADragonDreaming> But you're missing /my/ point.

18:27 <Moonlightning> ADragonDreaming: I'm assuming that every future update to all Windows versions will include spyware.

18:27 <Moonlightning> Which is admittedly rather extreme.

18:28 <ADragonDreaming> I would have to say that's extremely unlikely.

18:28 <Moonlightning> But I'm not gonna trust it.

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18:28 <ADragonDreaming> The public outcry against that action would be a massive scandal, legalese or not.

18:28 <ADragonDreaming> It would be extremely idiotic of them to try.

18:29 <Gilda> What's this? Microsoft trying to put spybots inside peoples' homes?

18:29 <MDP> so all im saying is that reguard less of company policy, there is always the human element, and that element is unpredictable.  while unlikely, it was unlikely sony would have been hacked twice, it was unlikely. all it takes is one pissed off employee with time and a little know how and they can do what ever they want if you are connected to a pc

18:29 <Gilda> Never heard of that being attempted before.

18:29 <Moonlightning> Laugh it up, Gilda. I'll just be sitting over here with my Linux boxes.

18:29 <Gilda> ...Okay, have fun with those? What...?

18:30 <MDP> anyway, we're on a mlp channell. what sense is there in arguing over software and os politics.

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18:30 <ADragonDreaming> Essentially, Moonlightning, you can tout Linux all you want, but "Microsoft has a dumb policy that people are going to yell at them for" is not going to cause a shift.

18:31 <Schism> Take it from me, you wouldn't see even 1% of Microsoft's customer base moving over because of this.

18:31 <matttheshadowman> Meh, I have heard from so many techhies saying that Linux and its distros are the future yet it's not arrived yet. The thing is the general public will just have what works.

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18:31 <ADragonDreaming> Linux doesn't have the market share.

18:31 <Schism> Flying cars are also the future.  Funny thing...

18:31 <wobniaR> I want my hoverboard

18:32 <wobniaR> Back to the future lied to me

18:32 <MDP> they kinda have pseudo hover boards now..

18:32 <wobniaR> We need to science harder

18:32 <Cepheid> I've calmed down, and had some time to think.  Want an example of how Microsoft might collect data from private folders?  I can give some, if you'd like.

18:32 <ADragonDreaming> Sure.

18:32 <Cepheid> Program crashes.

18:32 <Moonlightning> ADragonDreaming: yeah, it's an unfortunate vicious cycle. Linux doesn't have the market share because [...] beacuse Linux doesn't have the market share.

18:33 <Cepheid> In programs that have open files, they often map data from the hard drive, loading data from the drive into memory.

18:33 <ADragonDreaming> It's more that Linux distros need to start appealing on a corporate level.

18:33 <Moonlightning> Isn't that what RHEL's supposed to be :|

18:33 <Cepheid> If the program crashes, it'll create a memory dump.  If you opt to send that memory dump in to Microsoft, then yeah, they'll have access to information that they shouldn't have.

18:33 <ADragonDreaming> No idea what that is.

18:33 <Cepheid> Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

18:33 <Cepheid> It's supposed to be a hardened, corporate version of Linux.

18:34 <ADragonDreaming> It's a start!

18:34 <Schism> I have seen a few corporate groups using Debian with their VMs.

18:34 <ADragonDreaming> Give it twenty years, we'll see what's what.

18:34 <Cepheid> It's been around for decades.

18:34 <Moonlightning> Cepheid: I'm thinking more along the lines of cops are investigating, ask Microsoft for a dump of Joe Foobar's hard drive

18:34 <Cepheid> Moonlightning:  I'll be honest.

18:34 <Cepheid> They can do that regardless of OS.

18:34 <Cepheid> There's nothing stopping them from doing that with Linux, Mac OS X or BSD.

18:34 <Moonlightning> Yes, but the point is that with Windows, it's now /trivial./

18:34 <ADragonDreaming> Though they generally need physical access.

18:34 <Cepheid> They have a legal right to do that in many jurisdictions.

18:35 <Cepheid> It's trivial under other OSes.

18:35 <Moonlightning> It's not trivial to break AES-256.

18:35 <Schism> It's been trivial with Windows for quite some time.

18:35 <ADragonDreaming> The new concern is whether or not that's now possible without physical access.

18:35 <Moonlightning> You're talking about unsolved math problems, Cepheid.

18:35 <Cepheid> You do realize there's controversy around AES, right?

18:35 <Moonlightning> You think you've solved one? Apply for the buckkin' Nobel Prize.

18:35 <Cepheid> You've never followed the history of it.

18:35 <Cepheid> ...

18:35 <matttheshadowman> To be honest you should only really worry of you actually, you know, have something to hide...

18:35 <Moonlightning> AES is accepted, ude.

18:35 <matttheshadowman> *if

18:35 <Cepheid> Moonlightning, have you ever followed AES?

18:35 * Moonlightning groans at matttheshadowman.

18:35 <Cepheid> Have you read the history behind it?

18:35 <ADragonDreaming> You do realize that encryption can be laughably easy to circumvent with physical access to the machine?

18:36 <Moonlightning> ADragonDreaming: what, you mean like an evil-maid attack?

18:36 <Cepheid> There is belief that the NSA has massaged parts of the AES encryption to give them a backdoor to it.

18:36 <Moonlightning> Cepheid: and people have been looking and looking and haven't found it yet.

18:36 <Schism> Pretty much everything is laughably easy to circumvent in regards to physical access.

18:36 <Cepheid> Yeeeah.

18:36 <ADragonDreaming> Nah. Just get access to the user's profile.

18:36 <ADragonDreaming> No need to decrypt anything now.

18:36 <Cepheid> Moonlightning, again.

18:36 <Schism> Except maybe setting the drive alight with thermite and burying the ashes in a cinderblock.

18:36 <Moonlightning> Profile?

18:36 <Cepheid> Think about this.

18:36 <Schism> That's a little bit trickier to undo.

18:36 <ADragonDreaming> Account.

18:36 <Cepheid> It's an encryption algorithm, with a very small backdoor

18:37 <ADragonDreaming> Whatever you want to call it.

18:37 <Cepheid> You want the encryption algorithm to look very, very, *VERY* good and effective.

18:37 <Moonlightning> How's that gonna help, Adra?

18:37 <Cepheid> But you want that backdoor very well hidden.

18:37 <Moonlightning> …oh.

18:37 <Moonlightning> Sitting in front of the machine, with them logged in.

18:37 <ADragonDreaming> Because, Moonlightning, if I log in /as you/

18:37 <ADragonDreaming> Yes.

18:37 <Moonlightning> Obviously. 9.9

18:37 <Cepheid> Besides..

18:38 <ADragonDreaming> And this is the usual form in which a police investigation gets information from a person's files.

18:38 <MDP> you guys realise we've been debating this for an hour

18:38 <Cepheid> People download crap and install it on a daily basis that gives backdoors so readily that it's not even funny.

18:38 <Cepheid> Botnets, anyone?

18:38 <Schism> Hi there, Ask.  Nice to see you again.

18:38 <Moonlightning> Adra: in that case, though, they acn refuse to log in until they speak to an attorney.

18:38 <Moonlightning> I //like// to think we still have rights in this country.

18:38 <Cepheid> We do.

18:38 <ADragonDreaming> Oh, sure. Depending.

18:38 <Moonlightning> Depending, of course.

18:38 <Cepheid> I just think you're being excessively paranoid.

18:38 <ADragonDreaming> But there are fairly simple ways to get account access without the person present.

18:38 <Cepheid> And your attitude is actively pissing me off because you're being pushy.

18:38 <Moonlightning> I'm warning people of the change and giving my take on it.

18:39 <Cepheid> Which makes me feel like I don't have any given rights.

18:39 <Moonlightning> They can decide whether to be paranoid.

18:39 <Cepheid> No, you're not warning me.

18:39 <Cepheid> You're being pushy.

18:39 <ADragonDreaming> The problem is your take on it is "dump Microsoft"

18:39 <Moonlightning> Why's that a problem?

18:39 <Moonlightning> You don't have to accept it.

18:39 <Schism> Conduit and Ask are so ubiquitous in my line of work that there's actually a procedure for dealing with them.  Microsoft is infinitely less likely to take your information than /those/ jokers, by the simple expedient that 'they don't care'.

18:39 <Cepheid> Because it's pushing on MY RIGHTS.

18:39 <Moonlightning> Cepheid: me talking is infringing upon your rights.

18:39 *** ADragonDreaming sets mode: +m

18:39 <ADragonDreaming> That little rabbit hole

18:40 <ADragonDreaming> We AREN'T going down it.

18:40 <ADragonDreaming> Either of you.

18:40 *** ADragonDreaming sets mode: -m

18:40 <MDP> okay guys calm down, remember you're on the internet. it's okay to have differeing opinions, but now we're starting to devolve in to flat out arguing and not solving anything.

18:40 <Schism> May I suggest #equestriandiscourse for further discussion of this issue?

18:40 <ADragonDreaming> If you want to talk rights, go there, sure.

18:40 <Moonlightning> If you're just joining us here at Equestria Daily, we're discussing Microsoft's new privacy policy.

18:40 <ADragonDreaming> Not really.

18:40 <Schism> I shan't be joining, just pointing it out.

18:40 <Moonlightning> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx

18:41 <Cepheid> Nevermind.

18:41 <Schism> Cepheid, would you like to take out your aggression on some hogs?

18:41 <Cepheid> Piss off.

18:41 <ADragonDreaming> He's inviting you to a game of hedgewars, mate.

18:41 <MDP> I think we all need to calm down a bit.

18:41 <Schism> Nono, I didn't mean that in a snarky way.

18:41 <Schism> I'm sorry if it came off like that.

18:42 <MDP> also corporate politics dont really have anything to do with mlp, which is the basis of this channell.

18:42 <MDP> unless hasbro related i suppose

18:42 <Schism> Well, Hasbro's corporate policies might.

18:42 <Schism> Bah.  :S

18:42 <MDP> ^

18:43 <ADragonDreaming> Well, the basis of the channel is for fans of MLP to talk with each other.

18:43 <Schism> True.  And we do regularly veer off into tangents, as well as the hunting of wild cosines.

18:43 <ADragonDreaming> So new corporate policies that affect all of us are allowable, so long as everyone keeps a cool head and doesn't insult each other.

18:43 <MDP> this is true, but I think Dr.wolfe would have us try to calm down a bit, we aren't talking about the issue currently so much as  rapidly yelling our opinions at each other.

18:44 <Schism> I tend to call that 'talking past each other'.

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18:44 <matttheshadowman> MDP So like most internet "reviewers" then... >_>

18:44 <MDP> I'm here primarily as a place to enjoy the fandom and share my  fan - works and meet other mlp fans and artists, not so much talk about microsoft.

18:45 <MDP> it's also a part of my nature to try to calm heated situations.

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18:46 <Schism> I think the, ahem, heated situation isn't helped by the weather, either.

18:46 <Indifference> So how is everypony?

18:46 <Cepheid> Personally I'm on the far side of this argument because I trust Open Source Software and Linux about as much as I trust Apple, Microsoft, Google or my own government.

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18:47 <Cepheid> As I'm under the impression that if the OSF movement and Linux had their way, I'd have even less rights about what I could and could not do with my computer.  So...  Yeah.

18:47 <matttheshadowman> Cepheid Only way to have data protected is to not be connected to such a connected world we live in now

18:47 <MDP> @indifference I'm wellt hank you. trying to figure out what to do to finish this  pic of Aria ive been drawing for nearly 3 days but inspiration seems to  be ignoring me

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18:48 <Cepheid> matttheshadowman:  Pretty much.

18:48 <ADragonDreaming> Aria?

18:48 <Schism> As things go: http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-pinkie-on-11.png

18:48 <Indifference> I know that feeling all too well

18:48 <MDP> yes, I'm currently  drawing a picture of Aris Blaze.

18:48 <Cepheid> And knowing how the data is accessed in general is what makes the difference between "Microsoft accessing private folders at any time" and "Microsoft having access to private data."

18:48 <Indifference> Want to create, but what?

18:48 <Cepheid> I honestly don't think it's a case of simply just rooting around.

18:49 <Schism> Heh, 'rooting' around.

18:49 <MDP> badum tisss

18:49 <Cepheid> Even if it was, Linux, Mac OS X, and Android allow it as well anyways.

18:49 <Cepheid> Only way to prevent it is to firewall your network or disconnect yourself.

18:49 <Schism> And don't forget 'disabling SSDP'.

18:50 <Cepheid> The conveniences of computing is basically what provides all of this access to begin with.

18:50 <MDP> so...I have this s drawing of aria , on a side wide peice of printer paper, half the space is still blank, what shouldi fill ti with?

18:50 <Schism> The other Dazzlings?

18:50 <MDP> I can scan it to let you see what ive drawn thus far

18:51 <matttheshadowman> Welp gonna catch up and watch the newest episode of Star vs. the Forces of Evil

18:51 <Cepheid> Plus again, usually most "private data" is made accessible by crash logs or "usability improvement data" that you opt to send in.

18:51 <Cepheid> Man, if people knew what they were sending in with dxdiag files.

18:51 <Schism> RFIDs can be spoofed, radio signals can be manipulated, man-in-the-middle attacks can be run anywhere, 'open' networks can be hijacked, core dumps can be dissected.

18:51 <Cepheid> And they've been sending those in since the early days of DirectX.  And they contain a LOT of data.

18:52 <Cepheid> Layout of your filesystem can also be determined to some degree as well, via the crash dumps.

18:53 <Schism> Hey, Cepheid, you know what the worst part of Microsoft's new security policy is?

18:53 <Cepheid> Because oftentimes they'll include linker information, such as what dlls are linked in, their path, etc.

18:53 <Schism> They've made it /easy to read/.

18:54 <MDP> for those interested, this  is what i have thus far of aria, but i can't decide what to draw beside here, should i draw other characters... a school background... dialgue?

18:54 <Cepheid> Fun tidbit.  That same information can be obtained in other OSes.  Crash dumps also provide lots of information in those OSes too.

18:54 <MDP> http://s11.postimg.org/nz5az899v/001.jpg

18:54 <Cepheid> Schism:  Honestly, that may be what's making issues worse, too.

18:54 <Schism> Excellent sketch so far, MDP!

18:54 <Cepheid> Simpler language leads to lots of misinterpretation.

18:54 <ADragonDreaming> Indeed!

18:54 <Cepheid> Very nice MDP.

18:54 <MDP> Thank you!

18:54 <ADragonDreaming> Oh, Aria is the third siren.

18:54 <MDP> yes

18:54 <ADragonDreaming> The one who didn't stand out much.

18:54 <MDP> Adagio, sonata and aria

18:55 <Schism> Yah, Aria, Sonata, Adagio.

18:55 <Schism|Alt> Hrmf.

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18:55 <MDP> I liked aria's character design, she just didnt get much time to show who she was.

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18:55 <MDP> outside of the  moody one

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18:55 <Cepheid> But yeah, I find it funny that people trust AES.

18:56 <Cepheid> Hardware implementations are untrusted in the Free Software world.  And there's controversy surrounding it out the wazoo.

18:57 <MDP> if you really analyze their designs you can find a lot about their personality, in the 3 dazzlings.

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18:58 <MDP> I have a picture of adagio i posested on my deviant art.

18:58 <MDP> after I finish this one i want to try sonata

18:58 <MDP> though i might try addding her to thisone beside aria

18:59 <VinylScratch> They could be arguing. :P

18:59 <ADragonDreaming> Or just glaring at each other.

19:00 <VinylScratch> sonata chewing a taco

19:00 <VinylScratch> 'cause taco

19:00 <ADragonDreaming> In the background.

19:00 <ADragonDreaming> 'cause taco.

19:01 <MDP> and twilight irrationally freakign out  thinking its a quesadilla

19:01 <LunaticHell> oh hi Tiamat

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19:01 <LunaticHell> it's time for some swag https://derpibooru.org/420448

19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 3D Pony Art Compilation #15 [ http://tinyurl.com/o3lvrwn ]

19:02 <LunaticHell> Moondancer ain't got nothin' on him.

19:02 <MDP> http://artponymdp.deviantart.com/art/001-549896727   here's the pic of adagio I drew.

19:02 <Solo_Act> !list

19:02 <Schism> !link snapai quesadilla

19:02 <DerpyBot> https://derpiboo.ru/926292

19:02 <Schism> Also, nice.  :D

19:02 <MDP> lol

19:02 <LunaticHell> hey, MDP, ya new round here?

19:03 <Solo_Act> only 720p and 1080p? dammit. hard to find mlp in 480p.

19:03 <MDP> sorta, been here about 5 days

19:03 <MDP> im an artpony!

19:03 <LunaticHell> Have you already been invited to #equestriadailyart?

19:03 <ADragonDreaming> Solo_Act: why are you looking for 480p?

19:03 <LunaticHell> Because that is where artponies go.

19:03 <MDP> neigh

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19:03 <ADragonDreaming> though don't feel like you can't share your art here either

19:03 <Solo_Act> filesize. I'm a hoarder.

19:04 <LunaticHell> Well, then, you are now invited to join the channel (and if you want dA group) of the art ponies.

19:04 <ADragonDreaming> Ah..

19:04 <ADragonDreaming> Ah.

19:04 <ADragonDreaming> oh right.

19:04 <ADragonDreaming> Can't edit lines here.

19:04 <MDP> might have  send at request to join the DA art pony group, i just  joined liek 4 of them

19:04 <LunaticHell> Tiamat: some mistakes are forever xP

19:04 <Solo_Act> but uh, yeah, 80mb/20min is my ratio. beyond that, can't stand it.

19:04 <LunaticHell> MDP: well, you can also join the channel

19:05 <MDP> im using the website to access,  im not overly versed in irc to be honest. im  an old guy

19:05 <LunaticHell> MDP: just click on the hyperlink #equestriadailyart

19:05 <MDP> sorta old, im 30 lol

19:05 <Solo_Act> then again, youtube videos go to 80mb/20min, dailymotion goes to 100mb/20min... still prefer 80mb.

19:05 <ADragonDreaming> or type /joing #equestriadailyart

19:05 <Solo_Act> joing?

19:05 * Cepheid flops. "Bleh, my head hurts now."

19:05 <ADragonDreaming> er.

19:05 <ADragonDreaming> /join

19:05 * InklingGirl baps Solo_Act on the head

19:06 <Solo_Act> sounds like bad onamotapoeia. "joing!"

19:06 * Solo_Act baps InklingGirl on the spine!

19:06 * InklingGirl falls limp

19:06 * Schism plunges some precooked spaghetti into a pot of boiling water, adds tomato sauce with extra garlic and spice, serves with cheddar and sour cream.

19:07 * Solo_Act would like to try that. Then again, he's hungry as a cannibal in a tanning booth.

19:07 <Schism> Pasta is inexpensive.  :S

19:08 <ADragonDreaming> what does the tanning booth have to do with it?

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19:08 <InklingGirl> o3o

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19:09 <ADragonDreaming> That was easy.

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19:10 <Solo_Act> why what, Adra? the chat vanished except for the names of the channels, and  had to refresh the page.

19:12 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/AipOuXE

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19:14 <MDP> @ slo_act, do you mean my pic of aria?

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19:15 <Solo_Act> actually no, but I'll check it out. We all call ADragonDreaming "Adra" for short.

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19:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Hasbro Celebrating Friendship Day with Ponified Best Friends, And Some Lyrabon [ http://tinyurl.com/pfwt7yk ]

19:20 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/yYn26lS

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19:25 <Schism> Cepheid: This website is a balm to my sanity whenever I've had a long day.  http://cluefire.net/

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19:26 <Cepheid> Sorry about my comment earlier, Schism.

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19:26 <Schism> It's all right.  The heat's getting to us all.

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19:36 <ADragonDreaming> How's your day, Schism?

19:36 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming: http://i.imgur.com/h367qDn.jpg

19:36 <ADragonDreaming> Cepheid: welp, time to get my gunlance.

19:40 * Cepheid bursts into flames.

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19:52 <Cepheid> Cats aren't too interested in the ice balls.

19:53 <ADragonDreaming> ice balls?

19:54 <Cepheid> I freeze water balloons and place the frozen globes in a container for the cats to lick.

19:54 <Cepheid> It's meant to help with the heat.

19:54 <ADragonDreaming> ah.

19:54 <Cepheid> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekK7peRxKGc

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20:01 <Solo_Act> 0.o that's the single weirdest idea i've heard all day, Cepheid... but it's BRILLIANT.

20:04 <Cepheid> Heh.

20:11 <Pony_95802> Cepheid, how do you manage to remove the balloon from the ice?

20:11 <Cepheid> ... Use a knife?

20:11 <Cepheid> You cut it off.

20:12 <Pony_95802> Oh!  I imagined that it would stick.

20:12 <Cepheid> Nah.  It starts melting the moment you remove it from the freezer.

20:12 <Pony_95802> Cool.  I'm going to try this.

20:12 <Cepheid> So it creates a small layer of water between the balloon and the ice.

20:12 <Pony_95802> Oh, why am I a pony?

20:12 <Cepheid> Comes off pretty easily.

20:12 <Cepheid> Also..

20:13 <Cepheid> I just killed the smallest spider I've ever seen.

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20:14 <Cepheid> All because my mother demanded it.  I feel bad.

20:15 <Thelema5> Don't think of it as killing a spider, think of it as saving dozens of flies.

20:15 <Thelema5> Tiny, tiny flies.

20:15 <Cepheid> Flies are more annoying.

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20:20 * Indifference starts to think he chose the worst time to change nicks

20:20 <Cepheid> Oh?

20:20 * Indifference is too excited for indifference

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20:24 <Indifference> and y'all can rejoice, for y'all shall have a weekend without me

20:24 <Cepheid> Why would I rejoice at that?

20:25 <Indifference> reasons I guess

20:26 <Indifference> it's mostly aimed at other chans

20:26 <Indifference> the power of /allchan

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20:27 <VinylScratch> I can't even remember who you are

20:27 <VinylScratch> am I indifferent to you then? :p

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20:28 <RightHoofGone> I answered meh so often I got that nickname elsewhere

20:28 <VinylScratch> xD

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20:34 <Cepheid> Time to kill myself with cooking.

20:35 <Indifferent> food...

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20:44 <Cepheid> And trhere we are, ingredients for the sauce is ready.  Just need the water to start boiling so I can add the pasta into it.

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20:52 <Cepheid> My mother claims to have done housework so that I wouldn't have to do anything after my parents leave tonight at 2 AM to go to the East Coast.

20:52 <Cepheid> ....

20:53 <Cepheid> I have to sweep the kitchen and living room floors, vacuum the carpet in the living room, vacuum the stairwell, the upstairs, the downstairs, and sweep the furnace room, my bedroom, and clean both bathrooms.

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20:56 <Cepheid> Bah, I timed the sauce badly.  It's still cooking.

20:56 <KandiGhostcat> hi

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20:56 <Thelema5> What kind of sauce?  A basic marinara?

20:57 <KandiGhostcat> I'm reading an mlp fanfic. Someone made one in which fluttershy had scootaloo as a baby

20:58 <Callie> it's a common headcanon

20:58 <Callie> surprisingly enough. xD

20:58 <KandiGhostcat> it kinda makes since

20:58 <Sleepai> Nonsense

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20:58 <Snapai> Pegasi reproduce by spores

20:58 <Callie> No it doesn't, I seriously doubt Fluttershy ever would have gotten into that situation and given her up. xD

20:58 <Snapai> Just randomly, new pegasi pop out of clouds, and the community takes care of them

20:59 <Callie> lol

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20:59 <KandiGhostcat> scootaloo is like fluttershy. she cant quite fly yet.

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21:00 <Callie> Fluttershy...can fly

21:00 <Callie> we've seen it

21:00 <Librarian> pics or it didnt happen

21:00 <Cepheid> Cheese sauce, Thelema5.  I use velveeta, milk, and butter.

21:00 <Librarian> good evening

21:00 <Callie> Well, hurricane fluttershy for one. :P

21:00 <Cepheid> Melt it all together, and use it to make a macaroni and cheese.

21:00 <KandiGhostcat> remember her as a little filly

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21:00 <Callie> Along with the time she helped dash rescue rarity

21:00 <Librarian> are you a quid sister?

21:00 <Callie> *Squid

21:00 <KandiGhostcat> she couldnt quite fly

21:00 <Librarian> a you a squid ir a singer?

21:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: YTPMV: Caramelldansen - No Background Music [ http://tinyurl.com/pnn8oqx ]

21:01 <Callie> Both?

21:01 <Librarian> final answer?

21:01 <Cepheid> Oh, speaking of squid kids.

21:02 <KandiGhostcat> same with scootaloo. she cant quite fly yet. but she'll probably start slow.

21:02 <Cepheid> Callie: https://twitter.com/TamarinFrog/status/626508570230714368

21:02 <Callie> I saw that

21:02 <Callie> it was adorable and I love it. XD

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21:03 <KandiGhostcat> thats the only thing i can compare with fluttershy and scootaloo

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21:04 <Librarian> callie is the black haired one with the sushi

21:04 <Librarian> she is cute

21:04 * Cepheid shoots ink at Callie.

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21:04 <Librarian> turf war

21:04 <Librarian> !

21:05 * Librarian goes full squid ramboo on everysquid

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21:06 <Librarian> mista finwee

21:06 <Librarian> grettings

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21:06 <KandiGhostcat> but i do know one thing. but i'm not going to say it.

21:07 <Librarian> you know nothing Kandi snow

21:07 <KandiGhostcat> since its a spoiler

21:07 <Librarian> ok dont say

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21:08 <KandiGhostcat> and if i do say it you guys will get mad at me

21:09 <Librarian> i might get puffy

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21:11 <Cepheid> My dad stole the rest of my dinner.

21:11 <Cepheid> ;.;

21:11 <KandiGhostcat> thats mean

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21:12 * Thelema5 offers Cepheid some Combos

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21:13 <Librarian> cooombo breaker!

21:13 <Cepheid> Those are impossibly hard to find in Canada.

21:13 <KandiGhostcat> cepheid's dad, you are being bad

21:13 * Thelema5 tosses a few bags over the border

21:14 <Cepheid> A heap of sheep reap some wheat while geese fall asleep counting the sheep.  </Random>

21:14 <Librarian> imma fire ma lazer

21:14 <Librarian> (extra random )

21:14 <rela> splatoon!!!!

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21:20 <KandiGhostcat> its almost august

21:21 <Cepheid> Yep.

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21:23 <KandiGhostcat> wonder what day my doctors appointment is.

21:24 * Cepheid subducts around Schism.

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21:25 <KandiGhostcat> but then again, my mom may not know.

21:25 <ADragonDreaming> call the office and find out.

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21:29 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's usually the best thing to do.

21:29 <Cepheid> If you don't know when an appointment is, call about it.

21:30 <KandiGhostcat> i guess i'll know when my mom tells me. cause theres 2 doctor appointments

21:30 <KandiGhostcat> the eye doctor and just the doctor.

21:31 <KandiGhostcat> lol

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22:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: A Good Pinkie Pie Pinata to Balance Out the Weird Ones from Yesterday [ http://tinyurl.com/ohy8jws ]

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22:07 <Scherza> Whee!

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22:07 <Scherza> I'm such an idiot. Migrated everything else except my product key. >.(\

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22:37 <Gladiolus> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/even-vegas-strangers-agree-340-audiophile-cables-make-no-difference/

22:37 <Gladiolus> audiophiles get rekt

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22:38 <Scherza> Smart audiophiles already knew that.

22:38 <Scherza> Nice headphones, cheap cables. ;p

22:39 <DinkyDoo> Metro redux 5 bucks on steam today

22:39 <SkunkStripe> I wonder what Ness' dad does

22:39 <Gladiolus> directional ethernet cables are the funniest thing since rising hdmi cables because gravity causes the audio to sound warm

22:39 <DinkyDoo> Same with borderlands two

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22:40 <Scherza> Directional... ethernet.

22:40 <Gladiolus> that's literally what this cable is

22:40 <Scherza> >grabs optical cable >laughs

22:40 <Gladiolus> it states that proper installation follows their arrows for some reason

22:40 <Scherza> Although, hilariously, a proper ethernet setup will give more bandwidth and lower latency than optical (over short connections)

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22:41 <Scherza> W10 is fast so far. Let's see how long it takes for me to mess it up.,

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22:42 <Gladiolus> I've been on it since the RTM.

22:42 <Gladiolus> No worse than 8.1, and certainly better.

22:43 <Scherza> Probably just faster because I haven't ported it between three hard disks and reconfigured it eight times.

22:44 <Scherza> Ah, there we are. Finally found my proper PS3 controller driver again. >.>

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22:44 <Scherza> Now, let's see if I can get this product license key worked out.

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22:47 <Scherza> Aha! Found it. (This is why I don't delete e-mails)

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22:48 <Gladiolus> windows 10 key?

22:48 <Scherza> Windows 8 key.

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22:53 <Gladiolus> Why d'ya need that?

22:53 <Scherza> Hm... because you're supposed to be able to use them for W10.

22:54 <Gladiolus> You are, but Windows 10 uses a generic key and activates if your device was on the upgrade list- as near as I can tell.

22:55 <Gladiolus> Source: both my desktop and laptop have the same key, have installed them fresh, are activated. I had them both on the free upgrade path,

22:55 <Gladiolus> Desktop from a legit 7 key, and laptop from a legit 8.1 key.

22:55 <Gladiolus> It's kinda confusing honestly.

22:55 <Scherza> ... I did a fresh install.

22:55 <Gladiolus> But I'm activated so w/e

22:56 <Gladiolus> Yeah so did I, but as long as you had signed up for the upgrade at some point you're on the list as far as I know.

22:56 <Scherza> Hm... probably didn't go through the system yet.

22:56 <Gladiolus> It seems to just check if your machine had been on the list and then activate, it's weird though I dunno

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22:56 <Gladiolus> If it ends up being a thing just contact msft support, they're activated everone at the moment because false positives right now are bad news lol.

22:56 <Gladiolus> Better a few pirates in than a few customers out.

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22:57 <Scherza> I'm number 150 in line...

22:57 <Scherza> X.X

22:57 * Gladiolus shrug

22:57 <Gladiolus> It's not something you need to deal with immediately.

22:57 * Scherza chuckles. "Better than the 450 I started at!"

22:57 <Scherza> If I don't deal with it immediately, I won't deal with it.

22:58 <Gladiolus> I tweeted Gabe Aul twice, asking him if "I have a legit windows 7 key but installed fresh- am I still properly activated?" no answer.

22:58 <Gladiolus> I dunno we'll see.

22:58 <Gladiolus> Windows says it's activated so whatevs.

22:58 <Scherza> It may also be because it's a custom system and I used an OEM license.

22:59 <Gladiolus> My desktop is custom and I used an old retail 7 license.

22:59 <Scherza> Retail is better than OEM for stuff like this.

23:00 <Scherza> I actually hate that I got the OEM lisence.

23:00 <Gladiolus> What I did was this: Installed 7 a month ago, signed up for upgrade. When the RTM build was out, I installed it fresh. I am properly activated, but am using what appears to be a generic key.

23:00 <Gladiolus> My MacBook I installed 8.1, upgraded properly yesterday, and then wiped. Both systems have the same key, both are activated.

23:00 <Gladiolus> it's odd but hey it works v0v

23:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Twilight and Dashie Do "Barbie Girl" in: Barbie Twilight [ http://tinyurl.com/nwanl6e ]

23:03 <ADragonDreaming> 8.1 on a macbook.

23:03 <Gladiolus> The only windows retail copy I've ever bought (The 7 key was purchased online, it's a retail edition but all I got was an email with the key), is 8.1. Which is kind of hilarious considering with Windows 10 out- I will never use 8.1 again, ever.

23:03 <ADragonDreaming> Someone, somewhere, is crying.

23:03 <Gladiolus> What, the only other option was 7 which has terrible DPI scaling.

23:03 <Gladiolus> I dualboot Windows with OSX so I can use winders stuff if I want, works.

23:03 <ADragonDreaming> Oh, I know.

23:04 <ADragonDreaming> I just know that someone, somewhere, is crying over the blasphemy.

23:04 <Gladiolus> go try Windows 7 on a 2880x1800 15'' screen it's hilarious.

23:04 <Gladiolus> Probably.

23:04 <ADragonDreaming> Gladiolus: that would required me owning 2880x1800 15" screen.

23:04 <Gladiolus> well buy one then :I

23:05 <ADragonDreaming> Pfft, who has that kind of spare cash.

23:06 <KandiGhostcat> i need to go eat dinner.

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23:06 <Gladiolus> That computer cost me two grand in 2013 and I am happy with every penny. I earned dat thing.

23:06 <Gladiolus> <3 computer

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23:06 <ADragonDreaming> I've never spent more than $700 on a computer.

23:07 <ADragonDreaming> Basically, if it costs $1000, I'm overpaying. That's the way I see it.

23:08 <Scherza> Depends entirely on what you're doing. For a normal computer for normal use, why spend any more?

23:09 <ADragonDreaming> Which is why I said "I'm overpaying" :D

23:09 <Gladiolus> I wanted it, I understood the costs, and I valued it at what was asked. I'm happy.

23:09 <Gladiolus> WRitten so many papers on dat computer.

23:09 <Scherza> And me with my computer(s).

23:10 <Scherza> Welp, re-start time.

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23:11 <ADragonDreaming> dem restarts.

23:12 <ADragonDreaming> There's this odd sense of elation that accompanies the realization that you have the whole damn house to yourself.

23:12 <Gladiolus> o3o

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23:12 <Cepheid> Indeed.

23:12 <Cepheid> I'll have the house to myself until August 10th, starting at 2 AM later tonight.

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23:17 <LunaticHell> I am hyped. o3o

23:17 <ADragonDreaming> For?

23:17 <LunaticHell> The best night ever.

23:18 <ADragonDreaming> You're going to the Grand Galloping Gala?

23:18 <LunaticHell> Aka Galacon. ;)

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23:19 <LunaticHell> I'll leave the bus station at 21:00 sharp to arrive in Ludwigsburg at around 7:00, meaning my seat will be my bed.

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23:20 <ADragonDreaming> congrats!

23:21 <ADragonDreaming> You get to experience the exhaustion that is extensive travel.

23:22 <Sunset-AFK> lol

23:23 <ADragonDreaming> !link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9197GTl1ASg

23:23 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

23:23 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Hold Me (Håll Om Mig)

23:23 <ADragonDreaming> This here, is one of the best AMVs ever made.

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23:33 <Cepheid> Whelp, guess I'm not getting Windows 10.  I reserved my copy, but the icon just up and disappeared and won't show itself anymore with no notification or anything

23:33 <Night_Blitz> lol

23:34 <KandiGhostcat> i'm back

23:34 <Sunset-Shimmer> " This users too canadian - abort! "

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23:35 <ADragonDreaming> hmmmmmmmmmmm

23:35 <ADragonDreaming> Chiikaboom's AMVs are rather good. I recommend so far!

23:35 <KandiGhostcat> i'm still eating the salad though.

23:36 <Scherza> Now... how do I get DirectX11 to install?

23:37 <ADragonDreaming> And this is why I'm waiting six months.

23:39 <Cepheid> Shouldn't have to install it.  Should already be a part of the OS.

23:39 * Scherza stares at XIV, baffled.

23:41 <Cepheid> Not running?

23:41 <Scherza> Says I need Directx 11.

23:42 <Scherza> Probably because I used the internet-saving Ctrl+c and Ctrl+v

23:42 <Scherza> Probably one of those directx 9 libraries, even though I'm launching the dx11 client.

23:43 <Scherza> :/

23:43 <Cepheid> You may also need to install the most recent drivers.

23:43 <Cepheid> For your video card.

23:43 <Scherza> Already did.

23:43 <ADragonDreaming> (This is also why I'm waiting)

23:44 * Night_Blitz nests on ADragonDreaming and installs Win10 Pro x64 on them... remotely

23:44 * ADragonDreaming installs Windows 3.11 on Night_Blitz.

23:44 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  Given that there are reports that the game works fine under Windows 10..

23:44 <Cepheid> I'm questioning that it's an OS issue

23:44 <ADragonDreaming> Oh, it's some wonky thing somewhere.

23:44 * Night_Blitz has instead Linux 3.11 for Workgroups

23:45 <Scherza> Ran installer. Installed directx 9.

23:45 <Scherza> >.(\

23:45 <ADragonDreaming> Point is that compatibility with old stuff is iffy at launch, either on OS side or program side.

23:45 <ADragonDreaming> Give it six months, kinks get worked out.

23:45 <ADragonDreaming> Instructions are made

23:45 <ADragonDreaming> I prefer NOT to trailblaze where these things are concerned.

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23:46 <Scherza> I'm having fun.

23:46 <ADragonDreaming> More power to you!

23:46 <ADragonDreaming> I will happily follow in your footsteps later.

23:46 <Cepheid> Scherza:  Are you by any chance running Avast?

23:47 <Scherza> No, I am not.

23:47 * Scherza does speed test. Finds internet was randomly upgraded.

23:47 <Scherza> That explains some of the speed things I've been noticing. ;p

23:48 <ADragonDreaming> Internet 3.0?

23:48 <Scherza> Heh. Nah, just that the towers were probably upgraded mid-july, so my LTE has had its speed doubled.

23:48 * Night_Blitz plugs a tablet into ADragonDreaming

23:48 * ADragonDreaming eats it.

23:49 <ADragonDreaming> I prefer keyboard and mouse. Tablets can go hang.

23:50 <Scherza> Tablets have their use. I don't believe this use is for a direct replacement for keyboard and mouse.

23:50 * Night_Blitz nests on ADragonDreaming's head and floofs

23:50 <ADragonDreaming> Yarp.

23:50 <Cepheid> The usual reports state "run the game in admin mode" or "add an exception to Avast firewall for frontier.ffxiv.com."

23:52 <ADragonDreaming> I don't do anything that a tablet is better for!

23:52 <Cepheid> But beyond that, no one's reporting any other unusual issues with Windows 10.  Maybe one or two "Missing DX11" issues, but no widespread problems of that report.

23:52 <Cepheid> And reports are that the game's been working since early beta releases of Windows 10.

23:52 <Indifferent> Well, my little ponies, this is it. God willing I shall return in a few days.

23:53 <Scherza> Yeah. I forgot to install ancient versions of Directx.

23:54 <ADragonDreaming> I'm not a pony.

23:54 <ADragonDreaming> Or little.

23:54 <ADragonDreaming> Or yours. >:|

23:54 * Scherza hides from ADD under ADD's claw.

23:54 <ADragonDreaming> Where you going, anyway?

23:54 <Indifferent> México, México

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23:55 <ADragonDreaming> Okay! Have fun! Don't die!

23:55 * Night_Blitz claims ADragonDreaming for himself and floofs, still nesting on their head

23:56 <Scherza> Eh. Edgynet exporer seems to be doing nicely now.

23:56 <Scherza> Time will tell whether or not it is better than Firefox or Chrome. (Though they don't put up much competition right now.)

23:56 <ADragonDreaming> At least they're finally allowing IE to die.

23:58 <Chaosweaver> inb4 it's just a rebranded IE

23:58 <Scherza> Yeah. It is.

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23:59 <Chaosweaver> Yep...

23:59 <Scherza> Maybe they changed the engine, but I think they're already on, like, their fourth engine for IE anyways.

23:59 <Scherza> And the previous iteration wasn't even bad. It was just as good as FF or Chrome.