Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2015-09-15

00:00 <Bon-Bon> Keyboard works only no keys respond to a press

00:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1651 - Derpy Flooded the City!  [ http://tinyurl.com/q5xlsyx ]

00:00 <SgtPinkie> The latest MLP:FF comic was quite good, by the way

00:00 <Bon-Bon> And surprise-surprise it is a "known issue" from day one

00:00 <wobniaR> I agree SgtPinkie

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00:05 <Cepheid> Schism|Nocturne:  Taxi services in Ottawa are getting worse.

00:06 <Schism|Nocturne> I heard.  Blue line members attacking Uber drivers...

00:06 <Cepheid> Blue Line taxi driver verbally assaulted an Uber driver and customer outside the Fairmont Chateau Laurier

00:06 <Schism|Nocturne> Or, at least the very least, confronting, yeah.

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00:09 * Cepheid is debating pushing what he has of his roguelike up onto a github repository tonight.

00:09 <Cepheid> It's not much, lacking a lot of things, like actual stuff to do, etc..

00:09 <Cepheid> But at the least, I can show it off to you nutjobs.

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00:14 <CleverDerpy> hiya

00:14 * CleverDerpy sits and derps

00:15 <CleverDerpy> my birthday is on October 8th, I dunno what to ask for...

00:15 <CleverDerpy> I was promised muffins though, which I do love~

00:16 <CleverDerpy> i got all the Nintendo games i could ever need or want

00:16 <CleverDerpy> and there's none coming out in time for that

00:16 <ADragonDreaming> When in doubt, get money.

00:18 <ADragonDreaming> po-o-ni

00:20 <CleverDerpy> i guess i could ask

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00:24 <Cepheid> ポニー

00:24 <ADragonDreaming> Gesundheit.

00:25 <Cepheid> "Ponii"

00:25 <Cepheid> Or, "Pony" as we know it. :P

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00:32 <Cepheid> So, what's everyone up to?

00:33 <SgtPinkie> For a Discord comic, though, it was extremely light on references

00:34 <Verandure> Doing a whole lotta nothin'. You?

00:34 <ADragonDreaming> Figuring out something to be up to.

00:34 <SgtPinkie> Or maybe I just didn't get any

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00:37 <SgtPinkie> >tfw the mlp reddit's name for /that/ pony is tumblrina hamplanet

00:37 <SgtPinkie> Go ahead, poke the sleeping attackdog

00:39 <Cepheid> I know there are delays involved with free medical care, but this is ridiculous.

00:39 <Cepheid> My sister still doesn't know what she's deathly allergic to.

00:40 <ADragonDreaming> It's reddit.

00:40 <ADragonDreaming> What do you expect?

00:40 <ADragonDreaming> As far as I'm aware reddit, tumblr, and 4chan all hate each other despite sharing userbases.

00:40 <Cepheid> It's also the Internet.

00:41 <wobniaR> Can't lump everyone who uses those sites into one hateball

00:41 <ADragonDreaming> This is true.

00:41 <Cepheid> Still doesn't mean I have to like Reddit, 4chan or Tumblr.

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00:41 <wobniaR> Though they certaintly do have quite a few vocal idiots, but yeah like Cepheid said, internet

00:42 <ADragonDreaming> But, as far as I'm aware, reddit, tumblr, and 4chan all hate each other despite sharing userbases.

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00:42 <wobniaR> I use tumblr to follow pony art blogs and a few other people of interest, works for me

00:42 <wobniaR> All depends on who you follow

00:43 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, I visit some sites.

00:43 <wobniaR> Reddit and 4chan are more like public forums so everyone's lumped into one thing

00:43 <ADragonDreaming> But mostly I hear about tumblr from other sources.

00:43 <ADragonDreaming> So mostly I hear about tumblr when tumblr's being a jerk.

00:44 <wobniaR> People love to spread drama around

00:44 <ADragonDreaming> Yep.

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00:44 <wobniaR> http://rarijackdaily.tumblr.com/ I mean look at this tumblr, how can you hate this, cute horses everywhere

00:44 <Cepheid> Same could be said of any particular group.

00:44 <Cepheid> You only ever really hear of them when they're, or some subgroup of them, is being jerks.

00:44 <Cepheid> Er, is/are*

00:46 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, but, see, to me that's not tumblr.

00:46 <ADragonDreaming> To me, that's rarijackdaily hosted on a free blog site.

00:47 <Cepheid> There is, in fact, a "tumblr" community, with dispirate individuals that have no relation to that community.

00:47 <wobniaR> Yeah I don't care about those people and I choose not to follow anything they do

00:48 <Cepheid> But to some of us, that "tumblr community" that I mentioned is what makes up tumblr.

00:48 <ADragonDreaming> And they're who I and I think a bunch of people mean when they talk about "tumblr"

00:48 <Cepheid> The individuals are not tumblr.

00:48 <Cepheid> They're separate entities altogether.

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00:49 <Cepheid> The same could be said of imgur and reddit.  There is a core grouping on each website that is defined as "imgur" or "reddit" while the rest is individuals or individual groups that have no relation to the core.

00:50 <Cepheid> The individualists, in my opinion, are using the services as intended.

00:50 <Cepheid> While the core groups are not.

00:50 <ADragonDreaming> Well.

00:50 <ADragonDreaming> "As intended" is relative.

00:51 <Cepheid> True.

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00:55 <Cepheid> Mmm.  The more I think about my place in things, I start to think I'm slowly drifting towards a "Drifter" or "I don't care" mentality about what goes on with the Internet or various places in the world.

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00:56 <ADragonDreaming> Huzzah! You are joining my camp!

00:57 <Cepheid> It's not that I'm indifferent, I do feel for things going on in the world, but it's just that there's a stark reality:  We're being fed too much information about what's going on in the world, and we can't do something about every little thing that happens.

00:58 <Cepheid> And if I worry or care about every little thing that happens around the world, and want to do something about it?  I'll never get anything done here.

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01:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony "Make Your Own" Pop Up Book Gets a Cover  [ http://tinyurl.com/ph62e89 ]

01:00 <FreezeFrame> And I finally have Mario Maker

01:03 <Cepheid> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGQuBnNXilk ... Does the playtime read 7229 hours?

01:07 <ADragonDreaming> Yep.

01:07 <Cepheid> That's 301 days.

01:07 <ADragonDreaming> yep.

01:07 <ADragonDreaming> And a bit.

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01:08 <Cepheid> Even I have never played a game that long.

01:10 <Cepheid> Longest I've gone is maybe 250 or so hours?

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01:15 * Cepheid looks at code. Hums.

01:21 <KooK> yawnage

01:25 * Cepheid is thinking about math. Huzzah!

01:26 <Cepheid> In particular, how best to calculate damage based on attack strength of an attacker and defensive value of a defender.  It's for one of my projects.

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01:33 <MDP> meow

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01:36 <Tirek> Dammit Thelema, I didn't even see your pic and I ended up coming home with the same chair.

01:37 <Tirek> They're not even here.

01:37 <Cepheid> Hmm.  Scaler = (Attacker ATK - Defender DEF) / Attacker ATK, capped between -0.95 and 0.50 inclusive.  If positive, it increases damage to the target.  If negative, reduces damage.  Final damage = Attacker ATK * (1 + Scaler).

01:37 <Cepheid> Of course, this makes it harder to decrease damage against stronger targets..

01:38 <KooK> Some language - Totes worth it https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=Gx5bIHQ_oL8

01:39 <KooK> Wait, no langauge.  Safe for all

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02:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Funrise Plushies Are Sad :(  [ http://tinyurl.com/nnu8pco ]

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02:01 <Starthunder> Cepheid: more complex than just damage=attack-defense, I see

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02:02 <Starthunder> …well. `damage = min(attack-defense, 0)

02:02 <Starthunder> `

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02:04 <Cepheid> Eh.

02:04 <Cepheid> That's also another approach to use, yeah.

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02:12 <Derpyhut> hello?

02:13 <KooK> Hola

02:13 <KooK> Como estas?

02:13 <MDP> Bonjour

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02:22 * BlackCat purrs.~

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02:24 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> anypony an art major here?

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02:25 <KooK> Art major, the most expensive way of practicing saying "Would you like fries with that?"

02:25 <KooK> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

02:26 <KooK> I couldn't resist.

02:29 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> KooK: what about philosophy major?

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02:30 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> heck, anything that doesn't have a corporate deskjockey position waiting for you non graduation. let's all change majors to business and get our MBAs

02:30 <KooK> Philosophy is fine, they opened up a philosophy factory just down the road from me

02:30 <Thelema5> Does it come in 6-packs?

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02:31 <Thelema5> Oh, and hello everypony.

02:31 <KooK> Thelema5 - Did I tell you what das therapist told me last week and clinically dianosed me with? :P

02:31 <KooK> diagnosed*

02:31 <Thelema5> Acute kookiness?

02:31 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> KooK: philosophy factory?

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02:32 <KooK> Marcus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FruENbeFxl0

02:33 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> KooK: I'm graduating with a degree in philosophy this winter. Then I'm going for my teaching license to teach high school math.

02:34 <KooK> You major in philosophy to teach high school math?

02:34 <KooK> Thelema5 - OCD

02:34 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> No, I major in philosophy to live the good life.

02:35 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I teach high school math because I think I'd be a good teacher.

02:35 * fyrepony turns KooK's clocks to point at diffrent times

02:35 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> will teach*

02:35 <Thelema5> Kook, you mean CDO?

02:36 <KooK> I would respond if I knew if CDO was a real thing or not :P

02:36 <fyrepony> did you mean DOC?

02:36 <fyrepony> no wait....COD

02:36 <fyrepony> HAHA

02:37 <Thelema5> CDO is just OCD, but in proper alphabetical order

02:37 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> 360noscope

02:38 <KooK> pff :P

02:38 <KooK> OCD is different for everybody.  I'm sitting in front of a clock that is broken and literally just spins to a new time every once in awhile.

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02:39 <KooK> My room isn't super clean, but it's not super messy

02:39 <fyrepony> it amazes me that long before we gazed stars and asked ourself what were those ligthts in sky, there were people who had interested in anthropomorphic animals

02:40 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> fyrepony: who's to say which came first?

02:40 <fyrepony> this was 4000 years ago

02:40 <KooK> fyrepony - drugs

02:41 <Thelema5> More or less

02:43 <KooK> People want to talk to animals, people want certain abilities of other animals, etc.

02:43 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> fyrepony: we don't really have writing from back then so it's hard to know if people were trying to figure out where the stars came from, but judging from the earliest records we *do* have, it seems likely

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02:45 <KooK> They had writing systems

02:45 <Thelema5> Anthropomorphic animal sky gods came from the Dog Star to seed human evolution

02:45 <KooK> They had Logographic writing systems

02:45 <fyrepony> seems legit

02:45 * Thelema5 dons his tinfoil hat

02:46 <Thelema5> Want proof?  Spell dog backwards.

02:46 * Thelema5 mindblown

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02:46 <Thelema5> poof

02:46 <Thelema5> :p

02:46 <Schism|Nocturne> Thelema5: You've played Rise of the Triad, I hope.

02:46 <KooK> Uni?

02:46 <Thelema5> I don't really play games

02:47 <Schism|Nocturne> Bah.

02:47 <Schism|Nocturne> Well, this was back in the '90s.  It had a GOD mode, but it also had a DOG mode, where your character turned into an invincible canine with a Bark of Death.

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02:48 <Thelema5> AH HA HA

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02:49 <KooK> I HAVE NEW UNDERWEAR COMING!

02:49 <KooK> I am running out...  I don't think I've bought underwear in 3 years.  Getting some holes.

02:50 <Thelema5> THAT IS THE MOST AMAZING NEWS I'VE HEARD IN 1,000 YEARS!

02:50 <KooK> Thelema5 = Fry

02:50 <Thelema5> MarcusGarciaWulfric, does your underwear have hole in them?

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02:51 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Thelema5: yes

02:51 <Tirek> Thelema, that chair you linked after I left.

02:51 <Thelema5> Good.  It would be hard to get them on otherwise.

02:51 <Tirek> That's the one I bought.

02:51 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I just threw a couple pairs out because they have too many holes

02:51 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I should complain to the manufacturer

02:51 <Thelema5> What a coinkidink!

02:52 <Tirek> I bought it because it was cheap.

02:52 <Tirek> It's more comfortable than a wooden kitchen chair.

02:52 <Thelema5> It's a good chair.

02:52 <Tirek> I had a bit of an issue assembling it.

02:52 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I need to buy more underwear too

02:53 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Wool underwear is the best, it lasts a long time, doesn't cause abrasion when riding a bike, is super comfortable, and doesn't stink like cotton or polyester

02:53 <Thelema5> I'm an office char assembling expert- for whatever reason I was given the task of assembling all of the chairs in my last company.

02:53 <Thelema5> *chair

02:53 <Thelema5> I must have assembled 40 chairs in 5 years

02:53 <Thelema5> :p

02:53 <Thelema5> Did you get it together in the end?

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02:55 <Schism|Nocturne> This looks about right.  http://img12.deviantart.net/3aa6/i/2012/359/d/e/chimicherrychanga___changeling_ad_by_zimroid-d5p46r2.png

02:55 <Schism|Nocturne> A chimichangelingcherrychanga.

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02:57 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko9H_pyLY3Y

02:57 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

02:57 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about The Horde's Festival - Castlevania: Harmony of Despair Music Extended

03:00 <DashCan> !twilight

03:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #473 [ http://tinyurl.com/od9v2mc ]

03:01 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFLh4CW-mg8 Plus there's also this awesome remix of one of Dawn of Sorrow's more memorable tracks.

03:01 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

03:01 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about After Confession - Castlevania: Harmony of Despair Music Extended

03:02 <DashCan> Schism|Nocturne: changelings don't make things with love, they consume things with love

03:02 <Cepheid> That love has to go somewhere though.  Can't simply consume it and have it go to nowhere.

03:03 <Schism|Nocturne> Harrumph, shows what you know.  Besides, excess love has to be distributed.  Why not put it into food?

03:03 <Cepheid> Let's assume love is an energy source for changelings, then it must be treated like energy.

03:03 <Cepheid> It cannot be created or destroyed.

03:03 <DashCan> i think changelings CAN make food with care and love, but not any better than any pony.

03:03 * Schism|Nocturne coughs, "Thaumic frequency manipulation."

03:03 <DashCan> a changeling would be better suited to a love-consuming role, like petplay.

03:03 <Cepheid> Thus, the love is likely used as an energy source for bodily function.  But it's apparent changelings can use magic as well, based on Chrysalis.

03:04 <Cepheid> And of course their form changing.

03:04 <DashCan> some changelings can fly too.

03:04 <Cepheid> Both of which likely require some form of energy.

03:04 <Cepheid> Changelings are energy converters.

03:04 <Cepheid> That's what they are.  I solved it.

03:05 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> what's a changeling's favorite band? AC/DC!

03:05 <Schism|Nocturne> Can't convert energy unless it's the right type, though, and thaumic energy is easier to 'eat' when its resonance is similar to that of the changeling.  So some changelings eat love, others hate, some anger and others pure joy, some curiosity or apathy or lust.

03:05 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9D-YI7B1QU

03:05 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

03:05 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Heart of Fire - Castlevania: Harmony of Despair Music Extended

03:06 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> sounds like you crossed changelings with that recent disney movie

03:06 <Schism|Nocturne> Pixar, ITYM.  Or maybe Dreamworks.

03:06 * Cepheid wonders if they will ever finish their OC design. Part of the problem is figuring out a critical flaw in it's design, heh. From there, he'd go and make a pony about it.

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03:10 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Pixar is Disney

03:11 <Schism|Nocturne> But no, this is far from that.  I've had that idea about changelings from the start.

03:13 <DashCan> I think slice of life suggests changelings can carry on "normal" (though probably unique) lives rather then being evil if they want to

03:14 <Schism|Nocturne> Plus, what better place for Random Changeling #212 than at a wedding?

03:14 <DashCan> yes, but someone invited him ithink

03:15 <DashCan> The standard assumption is cranky met him traveling the world adventuring and he may have helped cranky out

03:15 <Nicktendonick> Wasn't it Matilda who invited him?

03:15 <DashCan> i don't think we know, unless some writer tweeted something

03:15 <Schism|Nocturne> Or that changeling was just there for chuckles.

03:16 <DashCan> maybe

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03:20 <DashCan> If changelings can absorb small amounts of love in the air without directly feeding, then that would bea  great place to be

03:20 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> If fireworks can be triggered by love, there should be enough to absorb

03:23 <DashCan> i hope for more changelings in future episodes.

03:25 <ADragonDreaming> I find one direction fans to be inconvenient.

03:25 <ADragonDreaming> I need my whole room cooled down, but this thing only blows one way.

03:27 <Thelema5> Is it an outward exhausting fan?  Open a window, and use the fan to create a low pressure system which will draw air in from outside

03:27 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Adra: how about One Direction fans?

03:28 <ADragonDreaming> Yes, that's the joke.

03:29 * Thelema5 discovers himself shopping for 150 pound cast iron anvils, and realizes that the last thing he really needs is a 150 pound cast iron anvil

03:29 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwxbJxxZs10

03:29 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about The Hobbit - ONE RING (One Direction 'One Thing' Parody)

03:29 <wobniaR> It's exactly what you need Thelema5, buy 8

03:30 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> What else are you going to drop on roadrunners?

03:31 * Cepheid sits on ADragonDreaming.

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03:32 <Thelema5> lol

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03:34 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> http://www.deviantart.com/art/Appledog-560313785

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03:35 <Schism|Nocturne> MarcusGarciaWulfric, https://derpibooru.org/975916

03:36 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I shared this on my school's MLP club page recently

03:36 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> It's too cute

03:36 <Schism|Nocturne> Uotapo continues to try and murder us.

03:36 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> It's working here

03:37 <Schism|Nocturne> All of the hrnnnngh.  ( https://derpibooru.org/848911 )

03:37 <wobniaR> I like his non-EQG art more

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03:39 <PinkiePieInsane> rah rah fight da powa

03:39 <Tirek> No. I am the power. Power will not fight self.

03:39 <Tirek> Unless its plasma.

03:39 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> PinkiePieInsane: row row

03:39 * wobniaR applies a .308 caliber flaming sword of justice to Tirek

03:39 <Schism|Nocturne> Would this be ... /Team/ Plasma?  

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03:40 <Tirek> No.

03:40 <Schism|Nocturne> Harrumph.

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03:40 <Tirek> I'm not into the pocket men.

03:40 <KooK> yawnage

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03:42 <Thelema5> Good news, everypony!  It's fuzzy onesies pajamas weather!

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03:43 <wobniaR> Finally

03:43 <Thelema5> ikr?

03:43 <Thelema5> :p

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03:44 <Tirek> I just apply additional blankets.

03:44 <Thelema5> Hmm... youtube just served me an ad for an upcoming movie which actually seemed interesting but I automatically clicked through it out of habit.  Now I have no idea what the movie is called

03:45 <wobniaR> Adblockk

03:45 <KooK> Thelema5 - That was exactly me working on the Lexus rear end, I mean, to a tee

03:46 <KooK> It was a bolt that I ended up having to disassemble the whole back of the car because somebody decided it should go in one way, and if they just put it in the other, it would have cleared everything

03:47 <KooK> Doesn't effect strength, doesn't effect ANYTHING,  It just needed to come in from the other side.

03:47 <Thelema5> No, I don't mind ads- they're paying for my content.  I want to see this trailer but now I can't find it.

03:47 <ADragonDreaming> ...hehehehe

03:48 <ADragonDreaming> Humans spend the first 18 years or so of their lives getting caught up on what all the other humans have been doing for the past thousands of years.

03:48 <Schism|Nocturne> Also, MarcusGarciaWulfric: http://img11.deviantart.net/099d/i/2015/095/e/0/artemis_by_genbulein-d8ok8jj.jpg

03:48 <Thelema5> More or less.

03:48 <wobniaR> I recommend you get adblock anyway and whitelist the specific videos or sites you want to support

03:48 <Thelema5> Why?  I want the companies I use to remain profitable.

03:48 <wobniaR> Malicious advertisements are commonplace on the internet, even on legitimate sites

03:49 <wobniaR> Better to be safe than sorry

03:49 <Thelema5> Nah, I've never had any problems

03:49 <Schism|Nocturne> And growing moreso once again.  The 'punch the monkey' advertisements of my youth have grown up, and they've grown sharp pointy teeth.

03:49 <wobniaR> Alright that's your choice Thelema5, I did warn you

03:50 <Thelema5> Thanks!  Still alive after 40 years, though.

03:50 <wobniaR> I advise keeping an offline backup of anything important on your computer at the very least

03:51 <Thelema5> There's nothing important on my computer.

03:51 <Thelema5> I use it for: youtube, IRC

03:51 <Thelema5> lol

03:52 <wobniaR> Accounts, email, browsing history, making payments online of any sort, that's all important to many people

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03:52 * Thelema5 is gud

03:54 * Cepheid decides to laze about in bed.

03:54 * fyrepony downloads porn on thelema 5's computer

03:54 <fyrepony> happy to help

03:55 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> fyrepony: hey.

03:55 * MarcusGarciaWulfric points at the topic

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03:55 <Thelema5> O.o

03:56 <FreezeFrame> I think I can up the diffculty one level on NHL 15

03:56 <Schism|Nocturne> So... my workplace has decided to release a number of different tools for us.  One of these is the scheduling tool.

03:56 <Schism|Nocturne> The OLD scheduling tool was immediately thrown out with the bathwater.  From the word 'go', issues began to result.

03:58 <Thelema5> Sounds typical.

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03:58 <Thelema5> It's shiny and new!  To heck with onboarding and sandboxing!

03:59 <Schism|Nocturne> Yesterday, the removal of the old schedling tool led to us being unable to access our workplace e-mail, our chat servers, and now it turns out the new tool is about as flimsy as a soaked rice cracker.

03:59 <ADragonDreaming> "Testing regimen? The hell is testing?"

03:59 <KooK> Testing is for wimps

04:00 <Thelema5> ah ha ha

04:00 <wobniaR> And nerds

04:00 <ADragonDreaming> "Hey guys we got a new tool!"

04:00 <ADragonDreaming> "Why?"

04:00 <ADragonDreaming> "Because-"

04:00 <wobniaR> "Hey this tool looks cool, we should use it!"

04:00 <wobniaR> "For what?"

04:00 <ADragonDreaming> "No. Stop. Think. What was wrong with the old tool?"

04:00 <Cepheid> Software design, and testing:  All of it is done internally, with absolutely no input from the actual people who use the software.

04:00 <ADragonDreaming> "Uh, it was-"

04:00 <ADragonDreaming> "No. Stop. Think."

04:00 <ADragonDreaming> "It-"

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04:01 <ADragonDreaming> "If the next words out of your mouth aren't 'nothing' you aren't thinking."

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04:02 <Schism|Nocturne> There WERE issues with the old tool.  For one thing, it was only accessible through a VPN.

04:02 <Schism|Nocturne> However, a tool which is only accessible via VPN is superior to a tool which is, currently, not accessible at all.

04:03 <LightningCrash> There has been a dearth of cute equine pictures populating the internet lately.

04:03 <LightningCrash> I am beginning to go into withdrawal. :p

04:04 <Schism|Nocturne> LightningCrash: https://derpibooru.org/939221

04:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Ishi Rudell & Katrina "Lunchie" Hadley Confirmed for Nightmare Nights Dallas  [ http://tinyurl.com/pu4f6na ]

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04:11 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> LightningCrash: https://derpibooru.org/975916

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04:13 <Thelema5> Diamond Tiara *squee*

04:13 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> This is the cutest thing I've seen in as long as I can remember

04:14 <LightningCrash> That is adorable schism.

04:14 <Tirek> So, if you're interested

04:14 <Tirek> Them's Fightin' Herds (Previously Fighting is Magic) will begin it's crowdfunding campaign in 6 days.

04:14 <Thelema5> Neat

04:14 <KooK> Somebody break up with my girlfriend for me

04:15 <Tirek> Sure, give me her phone number, and I'll put on my most evil of voices.

04:15 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> KooK: I'd have to be dating here to do that

04:15 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> her*

04:15 <KooK> You want her?

04:15 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I don't even know her

04:15 <KooK> I will trade you for 3 goats and a cow.

04:16 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> eight cows!

04:16 <Thelema5> Is she anything like Veruca Salt or Dagny Taggart?

04:17 <KooK> eh?

04:17 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Lingo#Plot

04:17 <KooK> quit it with the plot links Marcus, this is PG

04:18 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> PG-13

04:18 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> >:-)

04:18 <KooK> Oh

04:18 <KooK> Then continue

04:18 <Schism|Nocturne> Tirek: Caravan Palace's next album comes out on the 16th October.

04:18 <Schism|Nocturne> It's named <I°_°I> .

04:19 <ADragonDreaming> It's named Emoticon?

04:19 <Schism|Nocturne> Sure.

04:19 <ADragonDreaming> I'm all for odd album names but they should have a searchable term.

04:19 <Tirek> Sweet.

04:20 <KooK> ADragonDreaming, I'm getting new underwear tomorrow.

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04:20 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah okay.

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04:20 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/TRTkCHE1sS4

04:20 <KooK> :P

04:20 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Veruca Salt - I Want It Now (Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory)

04:20 <KooK> DerpyBot returned!

04:20 <ADragonDreaming> Yes.

04:20 <Thelema5> Veruca is just majestic.

04:20 <ADragonDreaming> She defeated the invading aliens and has returned to chatbot mode.

04:21 * Thelema5 hails the return of DerpyBot!

04:21 <KooK> The aliens just wanted friends though

04:22 * Cepheid flops.

04:22 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah but they made friends with people who weren't them by devouring them.

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04:25 <LightningCrash> For the record, MarcusGarciaWulfric

04:25 <LightningCrash> Your picture was adorable too.

04:25 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Thelema5: https://derpibooru.org/tags/diamondbetes

04:26 <LightningCrash> I need to demand my cute equine appetite be whetted more often.

04:26 <Thelema5> Isn't she wonderful?  :p

04:27 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> You don't need to ask *me* :-)

04:27 <Thelema5> XD

04:27 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I assume you read Diamond and Dazzle?

04:28 <KooK> Body hair is hot!

04:28 <KooK> Freaking hot!

04:29 <ADragonDreaming> Shave it off, then..

04:29 <Thelema5> Kook, body hair is uncomfortable

04:29 <ADragonDreaming> Temperature control is important.

04:29 <Thelema5> :p

04:29 <Thelema5> MarcusGarciaWulfric, I've not.  Link?

04:29 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> https://derpibooru.org/773519 here's one

04:30 <Thelema5> Oh, oh.  Yes, I've seen this.  Didn't make the connnection

04:30 <Thelema5> *-n

04:31 <KooK> !link body hair

04:31 <DerpyBot> http://derpiboo.ru/428694

04:39 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> http://taco-slayer.deviantart.com/art/Procrastination-373245808

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04:42 <Thelema5> Man I want a taco

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05:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Music of the Day #556 [ http://tinyurl.com/outr3q6 ]

05:01 <Thelema5> This may be the most delicious spice blend on the planet! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shichimi You won't believe what happens next!

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05:02 <Thelema5> You'll be amazed with number 14!

05:02 <ADragonDreaming> holy crap number 14 transported me to russia I'm literally in russia right now guys

05:02 <Thelema5> LMAO

05:03 <ADragonDreaming> Everybody is looking at me weirdly because I'm in russia in the middle of a street at a desk.

05:03 <Thelema5> Be amazed, and share with your social networks!

05:03 <ADragonDreaming> I can't, number 14 killed all my socnets.

05:03 <ADragonDreaming> held a gun to their head and pulled the trigger.

05:03 * Thelema5 facehooves

05:04 <ADragonDreaming> all their 1's and 0's are spread all over the street it's a mess.

05:04 <Thelema5> Not again!

05:04 <Thelema5> I thought we worked that out with all the sandboxing and testing

05:05 <Cepheid> I need three lists in order to handle enemies in my roguelike game.  =.=;  Huzzah for complicated logic!

05:05 * Thelema5 calls for a crew

05:05 <ADragonDreaming> Only three?

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05:07 <Thelema5> Ali joined the chat: You won't believe what happens next!

05:07 <ADragonDreaming> *confetti*

05:08 <Thelema5> yay

05:08 <ADragonDreaming> You're right, I don't believe it.

05:08 <Cepheid> Active-Alive, for enemies that are visible in the part of the world being processed, and tracking the player.  Visible-Alive for those that are just visible, alive, but aren't tracking the player.  Dead, for those enemies that have been killed.

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05:10 <Thelema5> I've watched too many people die in person for games to be relevent.

05:11 <Thelema5> It's tragic, every time

05:11 <Cepheid> Monster mechanics are based on the Dark Souls series.  Go to a rest point, monsters respawn.  Hence the "Dead" list.  When an enemy is killed, it's added to the list so the system knows to respawn it later.  And to ensure that it doesn't get respawned when the player walks too far away from the area, and then back.

05:11 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/tladfihk1420/status/637979771163439105 ...

05:12 <ADragonDreaming> dat transform

05:13 <Cepheid> First thing I can think of is "God Arc".

05:14 <Cepheid> A weapon type from the God Eater series.  The "New Type" God Eaters in the game have weapons that do exactly that.  Transform between sword and gun.

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05:15 <Thelema5> Uhh.  Death is more like: grasping for a hand to hold, scared, alone... in too much pain.  Too much pain again, grateful for a friend, any friend...  A hand to hold is everything.  Then there is nothing... at least in my experience

05:16 <Thelema5> Games be silly

05:16 <ADragonDreaming> Games be games.

05:16 <Thelema5> True

05:16 <Thelema5> Fun and all that, I guess

05:16 * Cepheid shrugs.

05:16 <Cepheid> Games, like stories, can bend rules.

05:17 * Thelema5 fails to play them

05:18 <ADragonDreaming> Games, except for a very specific one which was titled, I think "You Only Live Once" and was damn serious about that, don't treat "death" as permanent.

05:18 <ADragonDreaming> More like a temporary setback.

05:18 <Cepheid> That said, there are people who do like the YOLO setup for games.

05:18 <ADragonDreaming> Well, even THERE, you usually have a save.

05:18 <Cepheid> So implementing it's NOT a bad idea per se, just if you do, it might be best to implement it in a switch manner.

05:18 <ADragonDreaming> Or you can restart the game.

05:19 <Cepheid> Indeed

05:19 * Thelema5 is not a gamer by any sense

05:19 <ADragonDreaming> The game I mentioned would be all like "No, bro, you dead. You can't play this game anymore."

05:19 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'm familiar with that concept.

05:19 <ADragonDreaming> You could only restart by completely annihilating all traces of the game and then putting it back in.

05:19 <Cepheid> That's a bit excessive.

05:20 <ADragonDreaming> Yep. It was the game's main gimmick. I never played it, of course.

05:20 <Thelema5> I just know that losing friends is really hard

05:20 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, but that's the difference between reality and fiction.

05:20 <Thelema5> Every time.

05:20 <Thelema5> I guess so

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05:21 <ADragonDreaming> Same thing can be leveled at movies and such, given you can always just rewind the thing.

05:21 <FreezeFrame> Like every EA Sports game, NHL 15 has a massive difficulty jump between Rookie and Pro

05:22 <FreezeFrame> And unfortunately, my skill level is within the gap.

05:22 <Thelema5> That's true, and is why I generally reserve myself to "all ages" content

05:22 <ADragonDreaming> *insert obligatory joke about EA Sports*

05:22 <ADragonDreaming> *insert general denigration of EA as a company*

05:22 <ADragonDreaming> *insert half-hearted agreement and bandwagon jumping*

05:23 <ADragonDreaming> *inserted flaccid appreciation of metahumor joke done in the form of <insert joke here>*

05:23 <ADragonDreaming> And then I typo'd insert.

05:23 <ADragonDreaming> Lovely.

05:23 * Thelema5 insert me mourning over friends suicides, and lethal drug overdoses

05:24 <Thelema5> I've lost too many friends

05:24 <Thelema5> goodnight

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05:24 <ADragonDreaming> Dude needs to sleep more.

05:25 <FreezeFrame> Speaking of sleep, that's what I need to do, too. Also have update restart scheduled for tonight.

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05:27 <ADragonDreaming> >walkthrough talks about returning to helpful NPC's home to find him dead with the soldiers what murdered him standing over his corpse.

05:27 <ADragonDreaming> >walkthrough says avenge his death or strip his corpse of valuables

05:27 <ADragonDreaming> >me: "Or?"

05:29 <Cepheid> o.O

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05:38 <Seoson> Good morning ponies.

05:39 <Seoson> ... and Dragons :P

05:39 <Cepheid> Hoi.

05:40 <Flashy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob0VBdnpAWY

05:40 <Flashy> click

05:44 <Schism|Nocturne> Cepheid: Never eliminate an old tool before the new one has been thoroughly tested.

05:44 <Schism|Nocturne> You know this lesson.  I know this lesson.  Some folks don't...

05:46 * Ali flops on ADragonDreaming

05:46 <Schism|Nocturne> Ali also knows this lesson, which is why they've not yet replaced ADragonDreaming as a makeshift bed.

05:47 * Ali yawns, who says she's using ponies as a bed?

05:47 <Schism|Nocturne> As a cushion, then.

05:47 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming isn't a pony.

05:47 <Schism|Nocturne> Though don't use me as one.  I'm spiky, and my chitin is uncomfortable.

05:50 <Schism|Nocturne> Also, I'm about to collapse in a sleep.  A flop, even.

05:51 * ADragonDreaming flops Schism|Nocturne into a repository.

05:54 <Cepheid> Having a hard time focusing on work.  No idea why..

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05:58 * Lenfant_Sauvage looks at math. Falls over. x3x

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06:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1241 [ http://tinyurl.com/pxg3tjl ]

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06:46 <LightningCrash> Evening, horses.

06:46 <Lenfant_Sauvage> scuse me

06:46 <Lenfant_Sauvage> i am a pyrofox

06:47 <LightningCrash> Oh, so/rry./

06:47 <Lenfant_Sauvage> check ur privilege m8

06:48 <LightningCrash> Not like it's ridiculous to assume you're a horse in horseland here

06:48 * Lenfant_Sauvage jumps off his soapbox and snuggles.

06:48 <Lenfant_Sauvage> heh, "horse in horseland"

06:48 <Lenfant_Sauvage> that's giggleworthy

06:48 <ADragonDreaming> 'sup, human.

06:49 <Solo_Act> Good morrow, Lenfant, Adra.

06:50 * LightningCrash snuggles along

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06:58 <Cepheid> http://i.imgur.com/mQGqIsK.png At the moment, this is what my roguelike looks like.

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07:05 <Tirek> It has 0 souls! It's soulless!

07:05 <Cepheid> :P

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07:07 <Tirek> Always relevant: http://i.imgur.com/PAdzMWt.gif

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07:10 <LightningCrash> Goodnight, silent horses. :p

07:13 <roflin> but it's morning silly :+

07:13 * ProjectCarthage is bored

07:14 <VinylScratch> x3

07:15 <Seoson> Silly Americans. How dare they to use a different timezone ;-)

07:16 <Seoson> Also I cannot access google.

07:16 <Seoson> Bing works - conspiracy.

07:17 <roflin> ^.^

07:22 <Seoson> Oh my traffic get's routed over Frankfurt now. Looks like some internet node just died. Google is now accessible again

07:23 <Solo_Act> hey, americans use like 6 different timezones.

07:26 <ProjectCarthage> Ugh, still searching for a way to get some variant of Flash for free, Somehwere between CS3 and CS8

07:27 <ProjectCarthage> I've been recommended Cs3 by some people, and Cs8 was what they use to animate the show.

07:27 <Seoson> *cough* CS_ Master collection *cough*

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07:29 <ProjectCarthage> I've never even heard of that.

07:30 <Seoson> Includes the majority of Adobe products. It's an official product - with unofficial ways to obtain it

07:30 <Seoson> Keep in mind that they use a modified version to animate the show.

07:31 <Seoson> Even with Flash at hand you cannot access the same tools

07:31 <ProjectCarthage> Oh god, there's one listing for the disc version on amazon, for like, $5000+

07:31 <ProjectCarthage> Someone's being a troll.

07:31 <ProjectCarthage> http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B007R0RJRS/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all

07:33 <ProjectCarthage> I figured they use a modifed version, I just want to have the program on hand so I can start learning and not be under such a strict time limit

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07:34 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

07:35 <Tirek> Heyo.

07:35 <Seoson> Hello CR

07:35 <Tirek> I bought an office chair. Finally have a comfortable seat to compute with.

07:35 * ConfusionRift weakly waves.

07:35 <Cepheid> Hoi.

07:35 <ProjectCarthage> I don't know, I can't afford the current version of Flash CC whatever, stupid subscription plan.

07:36 <ConfusionRift> I had to make my chair comfortable, and it's still not very good.

07:36 <Tirek> Hm.

07:36 <ConfusionRift> Doesn't help that I have a bad back.

07:36 <Tirek> Flash CC is what?

07:36 <Seoson> "to compute with". *g* *inputs randome numbers and operators into Tirek*

07:36 <ProjectCarthage> Creative Cloud, it's the current one.

07:36 <Tirek> Hm.

07:36 <ConfusionRift> Computing days sure have done a number on my back, and the "associate" days are there to finish it.

07:37 <Seoson> Adobe products are very expensive if you want to obtain them in a legal manner.

07:37 <ProjectCarthage> -_-

07:37 <ConfusionRift> Of course. It's a suite, basically.

07:37 <ProjectCarthage> Freaking...great.

07:38 <Tirek> So

07:38 <Seoson> Flash CC alone is apx. 20$

07:38 <Tirek> So

07:38 <Seoson> /m

07:38 <Tirek> You want animation software but don't want to pay?

07:38 <Tirek> Tirek has the answer, don't you worry.

07:38 <ProjectCarthage> It's not that I don't want to pay, i just can't

07:38 <ProjectCarthage> I literally can't.

07:38 <Tirek> http://www.synfig.org/cms/

07:38 <Tirek> Welcome to the wonderful world of open source software.

07:39 <Tirek> Synfig is a vector based animation studio. Like Flash, kinda.

07:39 <ConfusionRift> Oh right. And it's a service now. So it's $20 a month.

07:39 <Tirek> Screw that.

07:39 <Seoson> I didn't knew that software *bookmarked*

07:39 <Tirek> Ain't giving a company a monthly fee to use their software. Those days are over.

07:39 <Tirek> I stopped playing MMOs.

07:40 <ConfusionRift> That has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Oh well. Not like I'm gonna use ti at all.

07:40 <Seoson> Photoshop was probably the most pirated software on earth (after Windows maybe). It made sense for them to switch

07:41 <ConfusionRift> There's another reason.

07:41 <ConfusionRift> Their software are cloud-based.

07:41 <Tirek> Cloud computing is going to ruin computing in general for me, I think.

07:42 <ConfusionRift> So you're using their service AND systems.

07:42 <ProjectCarthage> Ok, once I get this installed, I'll see how well it works.

07:42 <Tirek> Good luck.

07:42 <Tirek> I can't offer you much help, though.

07:42 <ConfusionRift> Tirek: Could computing is a rather clever idea. It depends on how they implement it.

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07:42 <Tirek> Well, yeah.

07:42 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> I had a pony dream!

07:42 <ConfusionRift> This service thing is kinda dumb for me.

07:43 <Tirek> But if using any application becomes a monthly fee to use, then its garbage.

07:43 <ConfusionRift> And I agree.

07:43 <Tirek> Garbage! From King Garbage! Of the Garbage Dynasty!

07:43 <ProjectCarthage> That's why I wanted an older version

07:43 <ConfusionRift> Then again, they changed their whole business model and infrastructure.

07:43 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> ...

07:44 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Well this sounds interesting

07:44 <Tirek> Hm?

07:44 <Seoson> Pay $1.99/m for your ad-free solitaire experience *g*

07:44 <Tirek> Oh, right.

07:44 <ConfusionRift> $1.99? Why not $9.99?! I want to pay more! - Said no one.

07:45 <Tirek> If you prefer more traditional animation, Carthage, there's Pencil: http://www.pencil2d.org/

07:45 <Solo_Act> !link

07:45 <DerpyBot> http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/042/a/f/fluttershy_smeel_by_pikachux1000-d4pf99e.png

07:45 <Tirek> Draw each frame!

07:45 <ProjectCarthage> I'd prefer to stray from that, atleast for now.

07:45 <ProjectCarthage> The symbol-moving thing that FiM does is what I'm going for first.

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07:47 <Tirek> Well, Synfig is like that.

07:47 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Symbol moving?

07:47 <ProjectCarthage> Flash symbol, like, a bunch of parts.

07:47 <Seoson> Write your own animation engine in HTML5 + Canvas + JS :D

07:47 <Tirek> http://animata.kibu.hu/index.html

07:47 <Tirek> There's also Animata, which is bone-based animation.

07:47 <Tirek> Similar idea.

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07:51 <ConfusionRift> Beh. I'm sorta away from the drawing thing. So... I feel I should just delete a lot of this stuff, especially when there's gonna be such a slow advancement.

07:51 <Solo_Act> I have no idea what to use to entertain myself. the entire internet at my disposal, and no ideas. Great...

07:52 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Solo_Act, i feel your pain

07:52 <ConfusionRift> It's the same as TV. +10000 channels and nothing to watch.

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07:53 <Southern_Brony> hello

07:53 <Solo_Act> Good morrow, Southern_Brony. How fare ye?

07:53 <Southern_Brony> im good Solo_Act

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07:53 <Southern_Brony> you?

07:54 <Solo_Act> Good. I run out of Ye Olde English after about the first 10 seconds, so I'm glad you're alright.

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07:56 * Cepheid flops onto bed. "Can't code anymore. Will at least write down ideas that come to mind though."

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07:57 <ConfusionRift> I have been thinking on moving to digital media, but I just can't. I'm too used to the feel of paper and pencil.

07:59 <ProjectCarthage> ...yeah, right off the bat, this Synfig thing doesn't seem to be working.

07:59 <Tirek> Dunno why.

07:59 <Tirek> Perhaps you're missing libraries.

07:59 <ProjectCarthage> It's not that the program isn't loading.

07:59 <ProjectCarthage> I can't do anything with it.

07:59 <Tirek> Then you're missing libraries.

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08:00 <Tirek> Operating System?

08:00 <ProjectCarthage> No, it's because I don't have any puppets that are supported by this program.

08:00 <Tirek> What

08:00 <Tirek> Oh, right, I see now.

08:00 * ConfusionRift nods.

08:00 <Tirek> Derp.

08:00 <Tirek> Misread what you said.

08:00 <Tirek> Well, yeah your puppets won't be supported, because Synfig is not Flash.

08:01 <ProjectCarthage> Ugh, if it's not one thing, it's another.

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08:02 <Tirek> By the way.

08:02 <Tirek> Mane 6 is about to begin crowdfunding "Them's Fighting Herds" which is the new non-copyright-infringing Fighting is Magic.

08:02 <ProjectCarthage> I still hate that name.

08:03 * ConfusionRift sighs.

08:03 <ConfusionRift> Here comes the avalanche.

08:03 <Tirek> It does have an interesting mechanic.

08:03 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Off to school

08:03 <ProjectCarthage> It's pretty much lost any connection it's had to FiM apart from the name of the DevTeam

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08:03 <Tirek> Music dynamically changes depending on who's winning.

08:04 <Tirek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4UJqTTDIMk

08:04 <Tirek> Also, apparently based on what I can gather from this video, a fraction of the damage you take can recover if you avoid taking damage for a short time.

08:05 <ProjectCarthage> Huh, I just found a free animation software that's very similar to Flash in terms of it's interface.

08:05 <Tirek> Not all of it, but some of it.

08:05 <ProjectCarthage> Maybe it'll actually use .FLs

08:05 <Tirek> No it won't.

08:05 <Tirek> Trust me.

08:05 <ProjectCarthage> "Vectorian Giotto".

08:05 <Tirek> You're pretty much caught in a situation where you're either getting Flash, or remaking the puppets.

08:05 <ConfusionRift> Isn't the Flash format proprietary?

08:05 <Tirek> ^

08:06 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, you're kinda screwed.

08:06 <Tirek> Also Re:Vectorian Giotto

08:06 <Tirek> "Don't use this program, it's buggy and you can't export your animations to a video file without external software."

08:07 <Tirek> Review.

08:07 <Tirek> Though, you're going to find open source software as buggy too.

08:07 <ProjectCarthage> Ugh...

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08:08 <Tirek> Figure out how to use Synfig, rebuild your puppets from scratch, and cope with the circumstances. That's all I can say on the matter.

08:09 <ProjectCarthage> I don't even know now.

08:09 <Tirek> Well yeah, you just got the damned thing. You don't learn by sitting idly by and moping about it.

08:10 <Tirek> Get angry, motivate yourself. Don't make me get the Shia Lebuff video.

08:10 <ProjectCarthage> I'm trying to figure out the Timeline thing, literally everything I've learned from Flash trials is failing me.

08:11 <Tirek> http://wiki.synfig.org/Category:Tutorials

08:11 <ConfusionRift> You might even have to adapt to a new tool, broh.

08:11 <Tirek> Start here. Synfig isn't going to operate identically to Flash.

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08:11 <Tirek> If you wanna animate, you gotta be prepared to make sacrifices.

08:11 <Tirek> I wasn't. Animation isn't something I can commit to.

08:12 <Tirek> And it certainly isn't for everyone. Its time for you to figure out if this is something you want to do.

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08:14 <Tirek> But to return to Them's Fightin' Herds.

08:14 <Tirek> If nothing else about this game is interesting, the dynamic music cues interest me at least.

08:14 <Tirek> The character designs are cute and full of personality.

08:14 <Tirek> Even if it isn't MLP related anymore, it has something going on.

08:15 <Tirek> Something going on for it, rather.

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08:17 <ProjectCarthage> Why couldn't this program have been the first thing I learned from

08:17 <ProjectCarthage> Instead of Flash, I'm too used to how it looks and works.

08:18 <Cepheid> Get used to it.  In the industry, you may be asked to use tools you never used before.

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08:19 <VinylScratch> ^

08:19 <VinylScratch> Get good is your only option

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08:20 <ConfusionRift> Well, the problem is that open source can't get too close to other products. Otherwise, there might be legal issues. So, the better options would be to either buy the service for Flash, or adapt to a new tool.

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08:22 <Electron> hello manes and tails

08:23 <Tirek> The second issue is that Synfig is probably the best open source/freeware animation software you can get your hands on, and it's kinda lacking.

08:24 <Tirek> Since you can't invest money into it, you're SOL.

08:24 <VinylScratch> Animation is not a cheap industry

08:25 <ConfusionRift> Adapt to the circumstaaaaance.~ Adaaapt to the situatiiiiooooon.~ Maybe you don't like the staaaaance.~ Which leads to desperatioooooon!~

08:25 <Cepheid> Any focused industry is not cheap.

08:26 <Cepheid> Even software development is expensive, even with open software tools.

08:26 <Tirek> Yup.

08:27 <ConfusionRift> Actually, there are ways you can go for the cheap, but it's not easy. And no, I'm not referring to pirating.

08:27 <VinylScratch> Time for you to look deeper into if this is viable for you at this point methinks.

08:28 <Tirek> Sometimes diving right into it without any background knowledge is a good point to start, but its a long, tortuous trail to travel on.

08:28 <Tirek> Its how I learned to write music.

08:29 <ConfusionRift> Learn as you go on.

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08:32 <Tirek> I'm just super salty that Adobe is selling their software as a service.

08:32 <ConfusionRift> It's been like that for a while.

08:32 <Tirek> Mudbricks.

08:33 <ProjectCarthage> ...Yeah, there's no way, I can't get used to another program, and I don't want to have to pay a ton of money for Flash, I'm stuck.

08:34 * ConfusionRift shrugs.

08:34 <ConfusionRift> Adapt or give up. I wouldn't give up though.

08:34 <ProjectCarthage> I already know how to operate Flash, I've made a handful of simple things in it, today I made a gif of Vinyl doing what she does best, I can't just move to something else.

08:35 <ConfusionRift> Then get the moneys.

08:35 <ProjectCarthage> https://i.gyazo.com/8e6f4da7ab4042e6284cc1194e21c9cf.gif < Proof.

08:36 <ConfusionRift> FL is proprietary, so it's very likely there's no open source program that can run it.

08:36 <ProjectCarthage> How do you expect me to get the money for it? We're already poor as is, and I'm pretty sure I'm not old enough to have a job.

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08:37 <Tirek> We don't expect you to get the money, hence why I offered up alternatives.

08:37 <ConfusionRift> Also should never... EVER make a project dependent on a temporary, unsupported, or trial tool. Because this can happen.

08:37 <Cepheid> Oooh, Toukiden 2.

08:37 <ProjectCarthage> It wouldn't be such an issue if I could find the older versions on Disc, since those have a serial number already and can be used indefinitely.

08:38 <ProjectCarthage> Like I said, Cs3-Cs8 would suffice.

08:39 <ConfusionRift> Thing is those are unsupported, so it's gonna be an issue to find an unused disc copy of the program.

08:39 <ProjectCarthage> I'm not trying to make anything amazing, I just want to learn, and having to unlearn everything I've already gotten from Flash makes it a problem.

08:40 <ConfusionRift> This is a conundrum, I'm afraid.

08:41 <VinylScratch> It is

08:42 <ProjectCarthage> If you haven't been able to tell, I have very little faith in my skills, low self esteem, and my patience is thin, I'm legitimately happy with what little I've done so far, having to move to an entirely different program would mess all of that up.

08:44 <ProjectCarthage> Hopefully that explains why I'm resisting using a different program so much.

08:44 <ConfusionRift> Problem is there is no other option. Flash is very proprietary tool that many try to replicate their own way so they don't get bit by the company. This means they would use their own open format, their own template, and their own tools that work their own way.

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08:46 <ProjectCarthage> I blame the "Lullaby for a Princess" animation for making me initially want to learn this stuff.

08:46 <ConfusionRift> And since they moved to a service business model, and took away the software provider model, unsupported versions are gone.

08:46 <ProjectCarthage> Got my hopes way too high.

08:46 <VinylScratch> Many animators learn different tricks over the years on multiple softwares

08:47 <ConfusionRift> ^

08:47 <VinylScratch> You MUST become flexible

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08:47 <VinylScratch> Its the only way to truly get where you want to be

08:47 <ConfusionRift> Huh. If that's how it's gonna be.

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08:48 <VinylScratch> :p

08:48 <ConfusionRift> Well, I'm done with this.

08:48 <ProjectCarthage> Sorry about that, accidentally closed the browser, I missed everything said after that last line I said.

08:48 <VinylScratch> Lol

08:48 <VinylScratch> Moving on

08:52 <ProjectCarthage> Yeah, I'm done, as much as I'd like to learn and make progress, I'm stuck in a place where I can't regardless of what i do.

08:52 <ProjectCarthage> (And no, I don't want to pirate it, I'm too scared of messing something up, having to edit the registry junk)

08:52 <VinylScratch> Moving. On.

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08:54 <ProjectCarthage> ...ok.

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08:55 <ConfusionRift> And then that happens/

08:55 <Solo_Act> I've got another day to do whatever the cuss I want, and I have no idea what to do.

08:56 <VinylScratch> Sleep?

08:57 <Tirek> CONSUME VARIOUS FROZEN DAIRY PRODUCTS

08:57 <Tirek> CRAVE THE CREAM

08:57 <Tirek> THE ICE CREAM

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08:58 <VinylScratch> Satisfy your inner rarity

08:58 <Tirek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=26&v=9V3yJJnoZXY

08:59 <VinylScratch> X3

08:59 <Tirek> More of that dynamic music system

08:59 <Tirek> And the last one

08:59 <Tirek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3&v=KIYvd1xx8a0

09:00 <Tirek> Seems like the weaker the attack, the more you can recover from it while you're avoiding damage.

09:01 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> OMG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5J0X3UMnQs

09:02 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5J0X3UMnQs I mean,

09:02 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about My Little Pony: Rainbow Rocks - Scarlet Project

09:02 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> starts about 40 seconds in

09:02 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> how many of my fellow Americans or Canadians are still on?

09:03 * ConfusionRift wants to yell out loud.

09:03 <Cepheid> I am, why?

09:03 <ConfusionRift> Why do you ask?

09:03 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Why such late hours?

09:03 <Tirek> I work nights.

09:03 <ConfusionRift> Why not?

09:03 <Cepheid> Because I start a job where I'll be working nights on Thursday.

09:03 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Just wondering what everypony's reason is

09:03 <Tirek> My work day is from 7 to 5:30.

09:04 <Cepheid> Plus I also have a screwed up sleep cycle.

09:04 <ConfusionRift> I'm still used to overnight shift, and I work late in the evening. So I still have late leniency.

09:04 <Tirek> 7pm to 5:30 am.

09:04 <Solo_Act> Tirek: I can't enjoy frozen treats because there are none. NO MONEY.

09:04 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Tirek: wow, how's that?

09:04 <Tirek> Brutal, but my body is improving drastically, as far as muscle mass goes.

09:05 <Tirek> I work in a warehouse.

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09:05 <Tirek> I've lost 20 pounds in three weeks.

09:05 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> wow, how much did you have to lose?

09:05 <Tirek> I'm 260 pounds now.

09:05 <Tirek> The average weight for a person my size is 180.

09:05 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> how much of that is muscle?

09:06 <Tirek> Probably very little.

09:06 <ConfusionRift> I used to work 11pm to "7am". I put it in quotations because that's my clock out time, yet I can't leave till all is done. So I leave at 8:30am to 11am.

09:06 <ConfusionRift> 11am being my latest.

09:06 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I dunno, you've been doing physical work for three weeks now

09:06 <Tirek> 8.

09:06 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> ConfusionRift: you shouldn't clock out until you leave

09:06 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift:  Where do you work again?

09:06 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> that's what the whole concept of clocking out is about

09:07 <ConfusionRift> Doooigh!

09:07 <Tirek> Its significantly more than I had before I took the job, but I'm still disgustingly out of shape.

09:07 <ConfusionRift> I clock out when I leave, obviously.

09:07 <ConfusionRift> They just had me working over my hours.

09:08 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> oh, right. did you complain?

09:08 <ConfusionRift> Yep. And what did it do? Nothing! A whole lot of nothing.

09:08 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Tell them that according to your contract you're only going to come in for the first 40 or whatever number you agreed to have

09:09 <ConfusionRift> Actually, I was gonna get reprimanded because some slacked on their tasks and the store was not done.

09:09 <Electron> pounds?

09:09 <Cepheid> ...

09:10 <ConfusionRift> There was no number agreement, just go by the hours accounted. Problem, we had to finish everything before taking off, otherwise the others from the day shift had to do it, which is not fair.

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09:10 <Tirek> Yes, 260 pounds. Roughly 120 kilograms.

09:10 <Cepheid> ...

09:10 <Cepheid> And how exactly is it fair to you?

09:10 <Electron> oh, 120 kg

09:10 <ConfusionRift> It's never fair. Whatever. The pay was nice anyways.

09:11 <ConfusionRift> Better than right now, especially after the incident.

09:11 <Tirek> The target body weight for my size is 81 kg.

09:11 <Cepheid> Where do ye work again?

09:11 <Tirek> So I'm quite a bit overweight.

09:11 <ConfusionRift> Walmart.

09:11 <Cepheid> Geeze.

09:11 <Electron> I want 80kg too

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09:11 <Cepheid> Even up here, they won't allow that kind of *YAY*.

09:12 <Cepheid> They tell me I'm not allowed to work past a certain number of hours, and due to the clocking system, they'll know if I try, and complain about it.

09:12 <Cepheid> Employment laws and all that.

09:13 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> ConfusionRift: were they working you more than 8 hours a day?

09:13 <ConfusionRift> As I said, I liked the pay, hated the work. Now, since I got shifted to another position, the pay is less, and my hours have plummeted badly due to the over hours.

09:13 * Cepheid shrugs.

09:13 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> ah, that sucks

09:13 <ConfusionRift> System is always against me.

09:13 <Cepheid> I don't mind overnight shelf stocking.  Pretty much the opposite of what I was doing.

09:14 <Cepheid> Keeps me busy, it's repetitive work.

09:14 <Tirek> I'll be getting some crazy hours coming up soon. My usual schedule is 10 hours a day four days a week, but when Holiday Season rolls around, I'll be working 11 hours a day, five days a week.

09:14 <ConfusionRift> Now, they want to implement a new stocking system. Basically, overnight sets stock and bins, while dayshift has to do the stocking during the day... during the friggin' day!

09:14 <Tirek> With overtime pay, of course.

09:14 <ConfusionRift> It's soooo stupid!

09:14 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iEO6RG7gAM ah nostalgia

09:14 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about My Little Pony: Equestria Girls - Scarlet Project

09:15 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> only two years and change old

09:15 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> but still

09:15 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> well, the original song I mean

09:15 <Cepheid> Right now, the Walmart I work at puts out the stock for stocking at 7 PM or so, and the night crew handles putting the stock on the shelves.

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09:16 <ConfusionRift> They're gonna replace that.

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09:16 <Cepheid> Different country, different rules.

09:16 <ConfusionRift> trust me, it's gonna change there too.

09:16 * Cepheid shrugs.

09:16 <Cepheid> In comparison to all the stuff I hear of American Walmart, the Canadian Walmarts seem spades better, employment-wise.

09:16 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Hey people with significant others, how do you not be a shy nerd and find someone?

09:17 <ConfusionRift> It's a new program that's being implemented in small mass globally. But soon will spread if it goes well. I hope it plummets and explodes.

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09:17 <ConfusionRift> They're surging for ways to reduce cost, since the whole initial pay fiasco.

09:18 <Cepheid> Initial pay fiasco?

09:18 <ConfusionRift> The entry level pay rate is $9, and soon (probably not) gonna shift to $10.

09:19 <Cepheid> Man.

09:19 <Cepheid> You guys get shafted down there.

09:19 <Cepheid> Minimum wage here in Ontario is $11.25, I'm being paid $11.75.

09:19 <Electron> you can agree to part-time job, right?

09:19 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Is that CAD?

09:19 <ConfusionRift> Due to that sharp pay rate, they're cutting corners as they can. If you're a full-timer, you are screwed.

09:19 <Cepheid> MarcusGarciaWulfric:  Yeah, CAD.

09:20 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> That's 8.49 USD

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09:20 <Finwe> o3o

09:20 <ConfusionRift> ^

09:20 <ConfusionRift> So much for that.

09:20 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

09:20 <Finwe> o7

09:20 <Finwe> Messrs MarcusGarciaWulfric, Electron and Cepheid.

09:20 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

09:20 * Finwe tips his hat.

09:20 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Finwe.

09:20 <Cepheid> Not a good comparison.

09:20 * Electron waves his wave to Finwe

09:21 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Not a perfect one, but a good one, I think

09:21 <Cepheid> Most consumer products tend not to be that much more expensive up here.

09:21 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> sure, the costs appear in different ways but it still affects your cost of living

09:21 <Finwe> !mail Windcatcher *boop*

09:21 <DerpyBot> Thank you for using the Derpy Mail Service 6_9

09:21 <Cepheid> It's the big ticket items like cars that are more expensive.

09:21 <Finwe> o3o

09:22 <Cepheid> Plus, our dollar only started dropping in the last few months.

09:22 <Cepheid> So prior to that, we were actually making more with minimum wage compared to Americans.

09:22 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Is it what it was before the great recession?

09:22 <Cepheid> No.

09:22 <Finwe> A new small car in Finland costs something betwixt €15,000 and €20,000.

09:22 <Cepheid> During the recession that was going on in the last few years, it was closer to parity.

09:22 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Yeah, but before, it wasn't.

09:22 <Cepheid> So, $1 CAD = $1 USD, roughly.

09:23 <Cepheid> Before the recession it was also that way.

09:23 <Cepheid> It maintained itself during the recession, and after.

09:23 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I recall the recession was when that happened

09:23 <Cepheid> For some reason it only just started dropping.

09:23 <ConfusionRift> Anywaaaays. Not gonna talk about that anymore. Tired of work.

09:23 <Cepheid> Mmm.

09:23 <Cepheid> There was a period before the recession was declared as happening that the dollar was at parity.

09:24 <Cepheid> Regardless, even then, when the dollar was at parity, minimum wage was still above $10 CAD.

09:24 <Pony|19334> pls hug me

09:24 <Pony|19334> I'm scared

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09:25 <Electron> huh? why are you scared?

09:25 * Finwe snuggles thegoodhen.

09:26 * Finwe also wing-hugs her.

09:26 <thegoodhen> yay :3 :3 thx

09:28 <thegoodhen> I promised to make something

09:28 <Finwe> Well then, it's lunchtiem, or is it?

09:28 <Finwe> !hug

09:28 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3

09:28 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around Finwe in a tight embrace

09:28 <thegoodhen> that is teeny bit outside my skillset

09:28 <thegoodhen> and now I am struggling to get it done and it's frustrating a lot

09:28 <Finwe> Programming in COBOL?

09:29 <thegoodhen> cobol is cool

09:29 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I kind of want to learn cobol, just as a lark, but then there are so many languages ahead of it that I'd want to learn

09:29 <Finwe> The good old COmmon Business-Oriented Language.

09:29 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Including Chinese

09:30 <Finwe> :D

09:30 * Finwe boops MarcusGarciaWulfric.

09:30 <Finwe> Turkey, meatballs, ...

09:30 <Finwe> Oh, spinach soup!

09:30 <Finwe> One of my favourites.

09:31 * Finwe browses today's lunch menus.

09:31 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> A Chinese author won the Hugo for a translation of his first novel. I have set a goal to read it in Chinese within five years.

09:31 <Cepheid> Myself, I'm setting simpler goals:  Write a game, translate it to Japanese. :P

09:31 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Oh, and it's the first Hugo to be awarded to an author in Asia.

09:32 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> It's called The Three-Body Problem by Liu Cixin

09:32 <thegoodhen> but no

09:32 <thegoodhen> it was like a heli crash

09:32 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Cepheid: you have to read a lot before you can write a lot

09:33 <Cepheid> Finwe:  I'd learn COBOL if there were still anyone sane using it.  The keywords here are "still anyone sane."

09:33 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> got any reading goals?

09:33 <thegoodhen> thanks guys tho

09:33 <thegoodhen> :3 :3

09:34 <Cepheid> MarcusGarciaWulfric:  I'd like to obtain a copy of one or two of the GATE novels and read through them.  Either that, or play through God Eater 2 Rage Burst.

09:34 <Cepheid> Since I already own that game on my Vita.

09:35 <thegoodhen> I think Imma hide under a pillow now

09:35 <thegoodhen> boohooohoooohoo

09:35 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> what's GATE?

09:36 <Electron> Chinese book within 5 years

09:36 <Solo_Act> General Acceptance of Tertiary Efficiency - when people are content to allow their plan "C" to be the only plan.

09:37 <Cepheid> It's a series of light novels that has a manga and anime adaptation.

09:37 <Cepheid> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_(novel_series)

09:38 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Solo_Act: if you only have one plan, wouldn't you call it your plan "A"?

09:38 <Cepheid> With more complex reading, light novels seem like a better direction to go.

09:38 <Solo_Act> MarcusGarciaWulfric: it's essentially folks settling for less.

09:39 <thegoodhen> my palms are sweaty.

09:39 <Finwe> Cepheid: Most banks here still have legacy COBOL systems and they pay insane sums to people who know COBOL.

09:39 <Finwe> o3o

09:39 <thegoodhen> knees weak, palms are heavy

09:40 <Cepheid> Finwe:  That honestly disturbs me.

09:40 <thegoodhen> I am honestly confuzzled

09:40 <ConfusionRift> Yep, that's very true. Some business systems still use old languages. I mean oooooold.

09:40 <thegoodhen> he said it looks good, but its horrible

09:40 <Solo_Act> arms are heavy, vomit on the sweater already - mom's spaghetti - he's nervous. but on the surface he looks calm and ready to drop bombs, but he keeps on forgetting what he wrote down, thegoodhen.

09:41 <Finwe> ConfusionRift: It's logical. If it's business, you use the COmmon Business-Oriented Language.

09:41 <Cepheid> I wonder at what point does it cost more to maintain a COBOL system than it does to properly analyze, design, implement, and rigourously test a new system?

09:41 <Cepheid> That is, a legacy COBOL system.

09:41 <Cepheid> As in, a decades old system.

09:42 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> The translator of this books says, "In my translation, I generally try not to worry too much about "losses" -- some losses are inevitable when the source and target cultures are as different as contemporary China and the United States. I try to focus on gains: new readers for visionary works; some inter-cultural understanding, even if heavily filtered; making the world seem just a bit smaller and more comprehensible

09:42 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> ."

09:42 <thegoodhen> Solo_Act:the whole crowd goes so loud, he opens his mouth, but the words won't come out, Solo_Act

09:42 <Solo_Act> Yup. I like Eminem.

09:42 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> mom's spaghetti

09:42 * Finwe hats on Solo_Act.

09:43 <thegoodhen> but but!

09:43 <thegoodhen> he is homophobic tho!

09:43 * Solo_Act adjusts Finwe into cape formation.

09:44 <Cepheid> I mean, it's a valid question.  Legacy software systems will break under various circumstances.  And the hardware it runs on will inevitably die, and eventually you won't even be able to find it, or special orders have to be made to replace it.  And if you're paying through the roof for a specialty programmer...

09:44 <ConfusionRift> Obne of the reasons could be that they're already well attached and functional with that system. Having to adapt to something else would meant having the change the WHOLE business infrastructure. That is very expensive. Maybe they see themselves well enough to keep the system running.

09:44 <ConfusionRift> *One

09:44 <Cepheid> I blame that on the programmers of the day.

09:45 <Cepheid> A well designed system can have a proper interface, or be designed to be adaptable so that the underlying system can change while the user interface does not.

09:45 <ConfusionRift> The company paid them for the applications, and they got served properly. Another reason would be support related.

09:45 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> https://soundcloud.com/freuderthreep/smash-shady-moms-all-star

09:46 <thegoodhen> *sobs*

09:47 <ConfusionRift> They're still under contract for system services with the infrastructure they have. Chances are they're keeping them, for whatever reason.

09:47 <Cepheid> Perhaps.

09:47 * Electron pats thegoodhen: "there there now"

09:47 <Solo_Act> thegoodhen: I really don't care about the homophobia of celebrities, whether I like their music or not. I like the SOUND, not the politics.

09:47 <Cepheid> In any case, in the future it's better to properly design things to be adaptable or changeable in the future.  Case in point, my roguelike.

09:47 * thegoodhen looks up at Electron :3

09:47 <Cepheid> The rendering engine I expect will change at some point, so everything regarding it is abstract.

09:48 <thegoodhen> Solo_Act:yea, me too

09:48 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Wait, I thought Eminem cleared up all that about being homophobic

09:48 <thegoodhen> I dunno.

09:48 <Electron> everything will be fine, thegoodhen

09:48 <Cepheid> All the game and game engine sees is a buffer of characters and character traits.

09:48 <thegoodhen> I only listen to his music, I don't care about the gossip around

09:48 <thegoodhen> Electron: I sure hope so. I shouldn't say "yes, I can do it" all the time

09:49 <Cepheid> It's up to the underlying rendering engine to implement the ability to display that buffer.  Right now I'm just using standard Java drawing-to-image rendering.  But in the future I'll likely be moving the project over to Android, so I'll need an GLES renderer.

09:50 <ConfusionRift> It's not the same.

09:50 <Cepheid> Can be.

09:50 <thegoodhen> Cepheid:where is the problem?

09:50 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> "Eminem is considered one of the greatest hip-hop artists of all time." high praise, Rolling Stone, but I think he deserves it

09:50 <Cepheid> thegoodhen:  No problem.  Just discussing stuff.

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09:51 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift:  User interface of an application could be designed to interface with a module that communicates with the database.  It doesn't need to know the details of the database, that's what the module is for.

09:51 <thegoodhen> that's true

09:51 <thegoodhen> there should be 3 parts

09:51 <Cepheid> The module communicates with the database and the user interface.  It takes data from the database, and translates it to information that the user interface can handle.

09:51 <thegoodhen> user interface, database and the logic

09:51 <thegoodhen> :3

09:51 <Cepheid> The module or database can be replaced independently while the user interface remains the same.

09:52 <thegoodhen> those should be separate

09:52 <ConfusionRift> In a business, it's not just interface. We are talking about a business structure as a whole. Ins, outs, shares, storage, interfaces, security, interconnectivity, etc. All this has a cost, has users to adapt to, and has a different logic to other structures.

09:52 <Cepheid> That's true.

09:52 <Cepheid> But there are costs to maintaining legacy software packages and legacy hardware.

09:52 <ConfusionRift> Everything has a cost.

09:53 <ConfusionRift> Especially in relations to a business.

09:53 <ConfusionRift> Yes, I agree. Legacy systems tend to be more costly to support.

09:53 <Cepheid> There is a point at which the costs will exceed that of doing a full investigation of the existing system, coming up with a new design, hiring some programmers to implement the new design, and then testing it rigorously and extensively with testing frameworks.

09:54 <Cepheid> At which point do you stop using that legacy system and consider the alternatives?  When the cost is 1:1?  2:1?  3:1?

09:54 <ConfusionRift> When the cost of a new system exceeds the cost of implementing a new one as a whole.

09:54 <ConfusionRift> At least, usually.

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09:55 <ConfusionRift> Another issue, as presented during project management studies, is a very unstable process.

09:56 <Cepheid> Which is why I question the logic of using legacy COBOL systems and hiring specialty programmers to maintain them.  COBOL, while an effective language for business, appears to be dying out or being replaced by alternatives.

09:56 <Cepheid> Making COBOL programmers expensive to find.

09:56 *** Tirek is now known as Smooze

09:56 <Smooze> Time to snooze.

09:56 * Solo_Act stops the Smooze

09:57 * Smooze cannot be stopped!

09:57 <Smooze> Goodnight everyone.

09:57 * Solo_Act uses stop sign.

09:57 <thegoodhen> Cepheid:so bottom line

09:57 <Cepheid> Although not as expensive as I thought, it seems.  In Canada, it ranges from $40,000 to $76,000 a year.

09:57 <thegoodhen> should I learn cobol?

09:57 <ConfusionRift> There where the contracts come in. Chances are these programmers are hired by contract, and paid a set rate. Making this less expensive.

09:57 <ConfusionRift> Laters Smooze.

09:57 <Finwe> It's almost noon.

09:57 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> thegoodhen: learn what interests you, I can guarantee there are jobs in lots of fun languages

09:57 <Cepheid> thegoodhen:  Wouldn't be a bad idea, if you can handle the language type.

09:57 <ConfusionRift> ^

09:58 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Like for me, Python.

09:58 <Cepheid> Some are good with functional languages.  Others are better with procedural.  Others still are better with object-oriented.

09:58 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I want to learn Ruby one of these days but I just like Python so much.

09:58 <Cepheid> And then you have people skilled with FPGA languages, assembly languages, etc.

09:58 <Cepheid> Web programming languages, as well.

09:58 <thegoodhen> Cepheid:I definitely will learn FPGA stuff

09:58 <thegoodhen> Cepheid:VHDL

09:58 <Cepheid> I'm more object-oriented and procedural.

09:59 <Cepheid> I want to check out FPGA stuff myself.

09:59 <thegoodhen> yea, the languages I am decent in are Java and C

09:59 <thegoodhen> not counting obscure langauges like

09:59 <Finwe> Forget about imperative languages, learn Lisp and Haskell.

09:59 <ConfusionRift> Just learn what you like, and what you feel comfortable with.

09:59 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Any Lisp fans?

09:59 <thegoodhen> GML, NXC

09:59 <Cepheid> I can list off the languages I'm good at, but it'd take a while to recall them all.

09:59 <thegoodhen> MarcusGarciaWulfric:NO

09:59 <Solo_Act> Lisp?

09:59 <Finwe> Lisp. o3o

09:59 <thegoodhen> Lisp is like uuum

09:59 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> I like Emacs Lisp and Common Lisp

09:59 <thegoodhen> Lisp is what Emacs uses

09:59 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait... oh no. I feel it might start soon.

10:00 <Cepheid> Overall, I'm a jack-of-all-trades.

10:00 <Finwe> Some say that it's an abbreviation standing for "Lots of Irritating Superfluous Parentheses".

10:00 <Cepheid> If you need me to learn a language, give me a few weeks, I'll have it understood.

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10:00 <Cepheid> Sometimes it's just a few days, though.  Depends on the complexity of the language and type.

10:00 * Finwe hands a book on Finnish grammar to Cepheid.

10:01 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Cepheid: revise to "If you need me to learn a reskinned version of C with some shiny stuff bolted on, give me a few weeks, I'll have it understood," right?

10:01 <Cepheid> Programming language, Finwe.

10:01 <Finwe> :D

10:01 * ConfusionRift feels ashamed he forgot COBOL was an assembly language.

10:01 <Cepheid> MarcusGarciaWulfric:  Nah.  I'm talking most any kind of programming language.  Not just reskins of C, C++, etc.

10:01 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> COBOL is not an assembly language, AFAIK

10:01 <ConfusionRift> Then what is it?

10:01 <Cepheid> I'm talking HTML, Assembly languages of some sort, perl, JavaScript, etc.

10:01 <Finwe> Cepheid: Alright, MC68000 assembler.

10:02 <thegoodhen> Java is assembler.

10:02 <Cepheid> If it's any different from the Motorola 68000 assembler language, I'm pretty set.

10:02 <thegoodhen> COME AT ME, bro

10:02 <ConfusionRift> And still no answer.

10:02 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> so like the Mercury language? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_%28programming_language%29

10:02 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> @ Cepheid

10:02 <Finwe> Cepheid: Oh, and then there's Malbolge...

10:02 <Cepheid> In college, one of my courses was assembly language.  We used M68000.

10:02 <Finwe> o3o

10:03 <ConfusionRift> Yep, got shutdown. Whatever.

10:03 <Cepheid> MarcusGarciaWulfric:  Give me a few weeks.

10:03 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> ConfusionRift: COBOL is "a compiled English-like computer programming language designed for business use. It is imperative, procedural and, since 2002, object-oriented."

10:03 <thegoodhen> next year we will learn VHDL :3 :3

10:03 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Cepheid: is three weeks good?

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10:03 <Cepheid> Finwe:  Give me a few months.

10:03 <Cepheid> MarcusGarciaWulfric:  That works. :P

10:03 <thegoodhen> I got away with saying Java is Assembly.

10:04 <thegoodhen> hmmmmm.... Guys... Html is a programming language! :3 :3

10:04 * Solo_Act punishes thegoodhen

10:04 <thegoodhen> oh my! :3

10:04 * Cepheid defenestrates thegoodhen.

10:04 <Finwe> It took the guy who wrote the first Hello World program in Malbolge over two years to do that.

10:04 <thegoodhen> Cepheid:isn¨t it correct though? :3 :3

10:04 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Cepheid: then how about seeing if we can both learn Mercury in three weeks?

10:04 <Solo_Act> I've actually made a tool for grabbing flash games with notepad.

10:04 <Solo_Act> er, using HTML coding.

10:05 <Cepheid> Finwe:  Then give me a few years.

10:06 <Cepheid> MarcusGarciaWulfric:  Tempting as the challenge is, I already have enough on my plate.  I'd rather work on projects, study Japanese, and do other important stuffs.

10:06 <Finwe> Nowadays they can write even loops in Malbolge.

10:06 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: with Direct execution using some Arm processors, Java bytecode is executed directly on hardware

10:06 <Cepheid> thegoodhen:  Yep.

10:06 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Understandable, I'm also pretty busy. It would be fun though.

10:06 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: making Java bytecode the assembly, technically speaking :3 :3

10:06 <Cepheid> Yeah.

10:07 <thegoodhen> ha!

10:07 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: now about html being a programming language

10:07 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Java bytecode is what's called an intermediate language, I believe

10:07 <Cepheid> Java is the language.  Java bytecode is the machine code.

10:07 <thegoodhen> Java bytecode can pretty much be disassembled very easily back to Java code

10:07 <Cepheid> Though in the context of how it's used, MarcusGarciaWulfric is correct.

10:07 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Yep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_language#Languages

10:07 <Cepheid> It's an intermediate language that's interpreted by a runtime.

10:07 <Night_Blitz> html is the markup language

10:08 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: html is a programming language :3

10:08 <ConfusionRift> Yep. It's happening. This is not gonna end.

10:08 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> thegoodhen: there's some information that's not preserved by the bytecode, but basically.

10:08 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: It's trivial to make a finite state machine with html, right?

10:08 * Finwe noms on Night_Blitz's tail.

10:09 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: well given infinite resources, finite state machine is infinite state machine and therefore turing complete

10:09 <thegoodhen> :3 :3

10:09 <Cepheid> thegoodhen:  You can't actively write an executing program with HTML.  You need scripts for that.

10:09 * Night_Blitz kwehs and floofs

10:09 <Cepheid> It's an interpreted language.  The interpretation though is up to the browser.

10:09 <Cepheid> However, with HTML5, that's slowly changing.

10:10 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: I am talking about plain old html :3

10:10 <Solo_Act> That's the best part about my flash-grabbing tool; it isn't a program, it's just a trick using an editable html document in browser and notepad.

10:10 <Cepheid> Yeah.

10:10 <Cepheid> Plain old HTML is just text that's interpreted by a browser.

10:10 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: programming languages are only Turing complete when you have infinite hdd space

10:10 * ConfusionRift still checks, rather confused.

10:10 <thegoodhen> or infinite tape :3 :3

10:11 <Verandure> Wasn't there one program that successfully beat a turing test, last year?

10:11 <thegoodhen> but if you have infinite memory, you can turn a html finite state machine into infinite state machine

10:12 <thegoodhen> which renders plain old html to be turing complete to the same degree regular programming languages are

10:12 <thegoodhen> :3 :3

10:12 <thegoodhen> QED

10:12 <ConfusionRift> Aaaah. I confused languages. Never mind.

10:13 <ConfusionRift> In the end, don't care. (puts on shades and lays down) Besides, this goes nowhere.

10:13 <thegoodhen> wow, rood

10:13 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> thegoodhen: no, HTML can't simulate an arbitrary state machine.

10:14 <thegoodhen> oh but it can

10:14 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> It's a markup language, it simply gives directions how to render a page

10:14 <thegoodhen> one html file=one state :3 :3

10:15 <thegoodhen> for each combination of state variables you make one file

10:15 <thegoodhen> then it's just links :3 :3

10:15 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> what? you're not making sense.

10:15 <thegoodhen> I am

10:16 <Cepheid> Not to us.

10:16 <thegoodhen> but .-.

10:16 <Cepheid> HTML is just a tree structure.

10:16 <thegoodhen> finite state machine has some variables

10:16 <Cepheid> It doesn't store values.  It doesn't allow retrieval of values.  It doesn't compute anything.

10:17 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: I know that.

10:17 <thegoodhen> this is bit hard to explain

10:17 <Cepheid> The browser recieves the data, and then does something with it.  That doesn't make it a turing complete language.  Especially since there is no perfectly-defined rules for what the browser is supposed to do with it.

10:18 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: suppose you have finite memory

10:18 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: and rules to change this memory

10:18 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> you also need rules to read the value of the memory

10:19 <thegoodhen> "if memory is 0001 and you press button 1, memory goes to 1000"

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10:19 <thegoodhen> this can be simulated by a file, that has "0001" hardcoded in it

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10:19 <thegoodhen> and that has a link that, when clicked, directs you to another file with 1000 writen in it and its own set of links

10:19 <thegoodhen> makes sense? :3 :3

10:20 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> If all you needed for turing completeness was output, anything could count as a "computer"

10:20 <ConfusionRift> ^

10:20 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Following a chain of links does not compute, literally

10:20 <Cepheid> You're describing turing completeness at the lowest possible level.

10:20 <Cepheid> As in, machine level.

10:20 <Cepheid> You're describing the turing completeness of a computer itself.

10:21 <ConfusionRift> It's like... emulating computing.

10:21 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: but indeed we agree that using html you can simulate a "turing machine" with a finite tape

10:21 <thegoodhen> right?

10:21 <Cepheid> You can't.

10:21 <thegoodhen> yes you can, why couldn't you?

10:21 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> but computing requires the ability to read AND modify states. You are only setting states

10:22 * ConfusionRift writes a bit of algorithm about it, and makes no sense.

10:22 <thegoodhen> you are setting them based on the state you are currently in

10:22 <thegoodhen> (based on what file you are in)

10:22 <thegoodhen> so there is your reading

10:22 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Actually let me restate that, you're only allowing the Turing Machine to seek on the tape, not to read or write values.

10:23 <thegoodhen> there are only so many inputs to the machine

10:23 <thegoodhen> that do something

10:24 <thegoodhen> so you make  files for every possible sequence of the inputs

10:24 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> thegoodhen: do you see the analogy, between a series of links, and a tape for a Turing Machine?

10:24 * ConfusionRift goes back tot he algorithm, it just gets more complex with the same meaning.

10:25 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> in fact it's like a Turing Machine tape where the tape head can only seek in one direction.

10:25 <Electron> why am I reading it as "Turning Machine" :\

10:25 <ConfusionRift> Electron: Might as well be. :P

10:25 <thegoodhen> MarcusGarciaWulfric:let me rethink it

10:26 <thegoodhen> I need a better model

10:26 <Electron> but it's not, ConfusionRift

10:26 <Cepheid> There are a set of rules required for Turing Completeness.

10:26 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> you need to realize that HTML is not a Turing-complete language

10:26 * ConfusionRift puts Electron on a turning machine. Is now a display for Electron. :P

10:26 <Cepheid> Simply being able to follow a stream of instructions isn't enough.

10:27 <Electron> let's build an infinite register tape

10:27 <thegoodhen> MarcusGarciaWulfric: I obviously know it

10:27 <thegoodhen> wait guys, let's just hold on for a second

10:27 <Verandure> 1 Mississippi.

10:27 <Verandure> Okay, now go.

10:27 * ConfusionRift runs.

10:27 <thegoodhen> I KNOW that Html is not a programming language

10:28 <ConfusionRift> Right?

10:28 <thegoodhen> well OBVIOUSLY

10:28 <thegoodhen> it would be ridiculous to say it is

10:28 <thegoodhen> but!

10:28 <Electron> HTML is a programming language. Am I ridiculous yet?

10:29 <ConfusionRift> Soon, Electron. Soon. (pat pats)

10:29 <Seoson> It's a markup language :P

10:29 <Electron> aww

10:29 <thegoodhen> I know!

10:29 <thegoodhen> I don't seriously think it's a programming language

10:29 <thegoodhen> it's more like the chinese room argument

10:30 <thegoodhen> HA! I finally worded it in a sane way.

10:30 <thegoodhen> if you prepared a file to display something on every single combination of inputs possible

10:30 <Seoson> That can contain both other markup languages (MathML, SVG), programming languages (JS) and containers for other file formats.

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10:31 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> thegoodhen: I thought you said the file WAS the input

10:31 <thegoodhen> it would well act like a turing machine

10:31 <Seoson> *g*

10:31 <Cepheid> The problem is that HTML doesn't accept input.

10:31 <Cepheid> It only provides output.

10:31 <thegoodhen> well but input can be links

10:32 <Seoson> Well it can react to events

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10:32 <Seoson> That's technically an input

10:32 <Cepheid> Seoson:  He's talking the most basic version of HTML.

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10:32 <Cepheid> As in, what appeared back when the Internet started out.

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10:32 <thegoodhen> clicking a link is an input

10:32 <ConfusionRift> Thing is, I know very little about this. At least in comparison to the others in here. But from what I could gather in your explanation, it just... doesn't make sense in terms of what is considered "computing".

10:32 <Cepheid> By the time you clicked the link, the processing of the HTML is complete though.

10:32 <Cepheid> THe "program" is no longer running.

10:33 <Cepheid> By clicking a link, you may as well be starting a new, separate program.

10:33 <Cepheid> Plus HTML pages can't accept arguments.

10:33 <Cepheid> Not back then, anyways.

10:34 <Cepheid> And even if they could, you still need an actual programming language to interpret any non-static data.

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10:34 <Cepheid> Since there's no branching, no control statements.

10:34 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> thegoodhen: here's how you prove a system Turing-complete: define an isomorphism to a system, like a Turing machine, that has already been proved Turing-complete.

10:34 <Electron> are you arguing?

10:34 <Cepheid> You can't use HTML as a turing complete language on it's own.

10:34 <Cepheid> Electron:  If I was arguing, there'd be cursing and swearing.

10:35 <Electron> what? why?

10:35 <Cepheid> Because of my temper.

10:35 <Electron> the one can argue without cursing

10:35 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Cepheid: that's if you were bickering

10:35 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Argument is an intellectual process, as Monty Python points out

10:35 <ConfusionRift> Mengo, mango, similar states. :P

10:35 <Cepheid> Then I am working on the wrong definition of argument.

10:36 <Electron> but cursing and swearing show your fear and uncertainty

10:36 <Cepheid> More like frustration.

10:36 <Electron> frustration is the consequence

10:36 <ConfusionRift> ^

10:36 <Cepheid> I'm the fighting type, so I get irritable and angry.

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10:37 <ConfusionRift> Nope. I DO! (punches Cepheid)

10:37 <Electron> :D

10:37 <Cepheid> Trust me, if it was fear and uncertainty...

10:37 <Cepheid> It'd be something else entirely.

10:37 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, will always be best fighter in the WORLD!

10:37 * Cepheid rubs his hand.

10:37 <Electron> it hard to admit, but they are

10:38 * Cepheid was known to punch walls when afraid of certain outcomes and such.

10:38 <Cepheid> In fact, I did so much damage to my hands, that instead of cracking knuckles, I crack my wrist, instead.

10:38 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Electron: why do you think so?

10:38 * Cepheid demonstrates by moving right hand. His wrist makes several pops, cracks and rumbling noises.

10:39 <Electron> it's not me, I've been taught in university about this, MarcusGarciaWulfric

10:39 <Seoson> "Plus HTML pages can't accept arguments." That's not correct. Even early versions supported #anchors

10:39 <Cepheid> Mmm.  But anchors are more like labels.

10:40 <Cepheid> They're static.  Unchanging.  And all they do is change where the page is viewed from.

10:40 <Seoson> Anchors can effect the way a page is rendered - beyond scrolling

10:40 <ConfusionRift> An argument can be a process in which one attempts to solve a problem via discussion. This could be within an agreeable or disagreeable state. This could lead to either an equalized solution, or absolute individualism and favoritism of solutions.

10:40 <Seoson> affect*

10:40 <Cepheid> Even back in the early days?

10:40 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxr4Aji2YN8

10:40 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about PrinceWhateverer - Good Time (Owl City cover Ft. Dreamchan)

10:41 <Seoson> I'd magine nobody used it, but in theory they always could

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10:41 * ConfusionRift felt like MarcusGarciaWulfric for a second.

10:41 <Cepheid> In any case, there's a lot of discussion about HTML being turing complete on the Internet.  So far, the result is that it's not.  Closest that it came to being was HTML5 + CSS3.

10:41 <Cepheid> And that was disproven.

10:41 <Seoson> All you need is an element with a hidden overflow.

10:41 <Electron> what would a cutie mark for arguing look like?

10:42 <Seoson> !@?

10:42 <ConfusionRift> ^

10:42 <Cepheid> Depends on the type of arguing.

10:42 <Electron> or two mouths in front of each other?

10:42 <Cepheid> If it's just yelling back and forth, probably what Seoson suggested.

10:42 <Cepheid> If it's intelligent discourse, it'd probably be something else.

10:42 <ConfusionRift> Or two Pacman like things arguing.

10:42 <Electron> but on the other hoof you can argue with yourself

10:43 <Seoson> Or a text bubble

10:43 <ConfusionRift> I was gonna say that next! ;_;

10:43 <Electron> ha! gotcha

10:43 <ConfusionRift> A text bubble with ellipsis inside.

10:43 <Cepheid> That's what I'm thinking, yeah.

10:43 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> ConfusionRift: I wouldn't say that. I'd say arguing is just about several people bringing their beliefs to the table, there should be no reason to get emotionally invested in it

10:44 <Cepheid> Agreed.

10:44 <Cepheid> I'm just bad at controlling my temper.

10:44 <Cepheid> I'm getting better at it though.

10:44 <ConfusionRift> Unfortunately, believes come with emotions.

10:44 <Cepheid> Mostly by learning breathing exercises and learning to not just give a dang about things.

10:44 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> That "absolute individualism and favoritism of solutions" stuff, do I sound like that? It just looks like some random thing

10:44 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: well. Imagine a computer that can be programmed by pressing n buttons. Once it is programmed, you click "run" and then click "step" repeatedly to execute the program. For any finite combination of button presses this can be simulated in html. Simply make many files with links for buttons. Each link redirects you to another file with differ

10:44 <thegoodhen> ent links and different stuff (=output) displayed. Now when you have infinite memory, you can make countably infinite files, and thus you can react to every single combination of button pressed. Thus every single program that can exist is already present in the html structure. Thus it's turing complete. :3

10:45 <Electron> apply a hoof to a face

10:45 <thegoodhen> ? :3

10:45 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> ConfusionRift: fortunately, we can look at those emotions (the ancients called them passions) and recognize them for what they are

10:45 <ConfusionRift> MarcusGarciaWulfric: It was a joke, but it's dead. Look at the poor thing. Dead, just after being born. Pity.

10:45 * Cepheid sighs.

10:45 <thegoodhen> Cepheid:I just don't see where it would be flawed

10:46 * ConfusionRift pokes at the dead joke with a stick.

10:46 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: my point is nothing is turing complete

10:46 <Cepheid> ...

10:46 <thegoodhen> because you don't have infinite tape :3

10:46 * Cepheid screams and runs off.

10:46 <Cepheid> You were trying to prove earlier that HTML was turing complete.

10:46 <Electron> you know, after abiding in IRC my PC folder always looks at me with faces now

10:47 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: was I? :3 oh my

10:47 <Seoson> Given that even a piece of paper is turing complete

10:47 <Cepheid> And now you just did a 180 and said your point is that nothing is turing complete.

10:47 <Electron> Disk C:  Disk D:  Disk E:

10:47 <Cepheid> GAAAAHHHH!

10:47 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: Whoopsie.

10:47 * Cepheid screams and throws ConfusionRift out a window.

10:47 <thegoodhen> I forgot what I was proving.

10:47 <thegoodhen> Cepheid: sorry, adhd

10:47 <thegoodhen> xD

10:47 <ConfusionRift> Wheeee! Oh no-! (crash)

10:48 <ConfusionRift> I gotta say. That has got to be the most impressive 180.

10:48 <thegoodhen> Cepheid:nothing is turing complete actually, since you do not have infinite tape. If you had infinite resources, even html would be

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10:48 <thegoodhen> that's what I meant I think

10:48 <thegoodhen> but I don't remember

10:48 <ConfusionRift> "i think". Love the uncertainty.

10:49 * ConfusionRift starts laughing.

10:49 * Cepheid just goes to read and slowly fall asleep.

10:49 * Electron records ConfusionRift's laughter

10:49 <thegoodhen> ConfusionRift:I had a phone call and it's kinda hard to keep focused xD

10:49 * Seoson hides behind his NAT.

10:49 <thegoodhen> I gotta go eat! :3

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10:50 <ConfusionRift> I can't- I can't hold it! This is flipping hilarious!

10:50 <Electron> flipping yeah!

10:52 <ConfusionRift> Oooh. My stomach hurts.

10:53 <Cephy-SortaHere> You okay, Rifty?

10:54 * Electron directs a fan towards ConfusionRift

10:54 <ConfusionRift> I think so. I'm so sorry, Cephy-SortaHere. I'm sorry. It's just... I needed something to laugh at, and this just made it.

10:55 <Cephy-SortaHere> The whole conversation and the end of it?

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10:55 <thegoodhen> ConfusionRift:what's funny?

10:55 <ConfusionRift> The end. The end of it was... oh, it's hurting again.

10:56 <thegoodhen> The end? :3

10:56 <thegoodhen> I doN't get it

10:56 <Seoson> This is the end,  you know .... ^^

10:57 <Electron> you "not getting" makes it funnier :D

10:57 <ConfusionRift> Sir, you just literally killed an hour... AN HOUR on a discussion that went full 180.

10:57 <thegoodhen> oh my!

10:57 <thegoodhen> I was wondering where the time went

10:58 <ConfusionRift> The whole madness was on a disagreement, when in reality the disagreements were part of an agreement that was seen as a disagreement.

10:58 <thegoodhen> was there any disagreement?

10:58 * ConfusionRift snickers.

10:59 <ConfusionRift> Oh man. This is gold.

10:59 <Electron> but you know how to "discuss"

10:59 <thegoodhen> I am confused.

11:00 <thegoodhen> I was just trying to explain my point of view

11:00 <thegoodhen> I didn't know we were arguing. :X

11:00 <Cephy-SortaHere> ConfusionRift has lost it.

11:00 <ConfusionRift> Let's say that it's best to let it lay where it stands. Otherwise, I'll end up coughing something out.

11:00 * Ali boops ConfusionRift!

11:00 <Electron> eww

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11:02 <Electron> and yet, another soul was confused, good job, ConfusionRift

11:02 * ConfusionRift adds a point tot he marker.

11:02 <ConfusionRift> *to the

11:02 <Seoson> I somehow ended up now reading things about the Brainf*** (it's called BF - I'm sorry :P) programming language

11:02 <thegoodhen> esoteric

11:03 <Seoson> You made my day :D

11:04 <thegoodhen> who? :3

11:04 <ConfusionRift> Too bad the prizes for Confusion Points are lame, unlike Pun Points.

11:04 <thegoodhen> oh oh, I like bad puns

11:04 <Electron> puns? nooooooooo

11:04 <thegoodhen> I just hope I haven't made a fool outta myself?

11:04 <ConfusionRift> Anyways, I should go to bed.

11:04 <thegoodhen> I am not good at explaiing stuff

11:05 <Electron> g'night

11:05 <ConfusionRift> Oh we know. We know. :P

11:05 <ConfusionRift> I just kidding, broh.

11:05 <thegoodhen> but I think it was clear at the end? :3

11:06 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, you were clear and sharp. But... yeah. Let's let it... lay. (hold laugh)

11:07 <ConfusionRift> Again, don't mean to offend, was just kidding. Just found it kinda funny.

11:07 <thegoodhen> pfft.

11:07 <Seoson> !seen straight

11:07 <DerpyBot> Seoson: The last time I saw....will you cut that out already?!

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11:07 <ConfusionRift> Alas, time for me to sleep. Laters, and have a good one.

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11:24 <Electron> do you have other pony places where you go somethimes to?

11:26 <Seoson> There is that horse barn I'm sleeping in *g*

11:29 * Electron gives Seoson a pack of hay

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11:36 <Seoson> I'd imagine a few poeple use PonyChat as well. There are also many forums, but I don't really care ;-)

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11:38 <thegoodhen> I do

11:38 <thegoodhen> but there be Griffons

11:46 <Electron> so, you are here and no where else pony related, Seoson?

11:46 <Seoson> You could say that.

11:48 <Electron> okay :(

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11:54 <thegoodhen> Electron: I am everywhere

11:54 <thegoodhen> but under different nicks

11:54 <Electron> details, please

11:54 <thegoodhen> mlpforums, same nick

11:54 <thegoodhen> other places

11:54 <thegoodhen> different nick

11:55 <Electron> you don't want to tell me those placec because they are "not so right"?

11:55 <Electron> I have MLPforums account too

11:59 <thegoodhen> Electron: uuum

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11:59 <thegoodhen> Electron: I don't go there any more anyway

12:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Early Morning Discussion #295 [ http://tinyurl.com/q2ml2bt ]

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12:05 <thegoodhen> Electron:you know?

12:06 <Electron> nope

12:06 <thegoodhen> Electron:I don't. That's why I found this chat

12:06 <thegoodhen> cuz I don't

12:11 <Electron> okay, so you don't go anywhere

12:12 <Electron> but you needed to communicate with someone

12:12 <Electron> because ponies and stuff

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12:14 <thegoodhen> Electron: I wanted

12:15 <thegoodhen> I wanted to have some friendly place where I could go without being

12:15 <thegoodhen> judged

12:15 <thegoodhen> sorry, It didn't let me presse netr

12:17 <Electron> aren't all brony places supposed to be friendly?

12:21 <thegoodhen> yea

12:21 <thegoodhen> but you know

12:21 <thegoodhen> wasn't Emacs supposed to be user friendly?

12:22 <thegoodhen> I'm not sure about it actually, maybe it wasn('t

12:22 <thegoodhen> Electron:plus there are places that are TOO friendly

12:22 <thegoodhen> if you catch my drift

12:23 <Electron> huh? too friendly?

12:23 <thegoodhen> yea.

12:24 <Electron> could you give me an example?

12:25 <thegoodhen> yea

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12:42 * Electron pokes thegoodhen

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12:43 <thegoodhen> oh no

12:43 <thegoodhen> sorry

12:43 <thegoodhen> Electron:query? :3

12:44 <Electron> pardon?

12:44 <Electron> I just want an example of "TOO friendly" place

12:47 <Cephy-SortaHere> Electron:  "Query?" means he did a /query to you, as in, opened a PM.

12:47 <Cephy-SortaHere> I think, anyways.

12:47 <Electron> alright

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12:50 <NewFoal063> http://i.imgur.com/mhF9y2X.jpg

12:51 * Schism|Nocturne flops in.

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12:53 * Schism|Nocturne also passes Cepheid a bowl of baked macaroni and cheese with sliced hot dogs, breadcrumbs, and sriracha.

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13:09 *** Parts: Coffee (gltxaekunot@Pony-tbijm5.oe0j.1cd2.0304.2602.IP) ()

13:11 * Schism|Nocturne rolls over to Unixkitty and boops with a glass of vegetable juice with hot sauce and lotsa additives.

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13:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +ao Fall Fall

13:12 * Unixkitty counter-boops Schism|Nocturne, but politely refuses

13:13 * Schism|Nocturne oh wells, and passes the Virgin Hail Mary to Fall instead.

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13:14 <CleverDerpy> hiya

13:14 * Pi yawns

13:14 <Pi> Evenin

13:14 <Schism|Nocturne> Hihi.

13:14 <CleverDerpy> it's morning here

13:14 * Schism|Nocturne passes Pi a glass of orange juice, and CleverDerpy a muffin with a cup of tea.

13:14 * CleverDerpy Derpy lays in the morning sun cutely

13:15 <CleverDerpy> oooh, thankies

13:15 * CleverDerpy eats the muffin and drinks the tea with gusta, sighing happily

13:16 <CleverDerpy> what a lovely day

13:16 <Schism|Nocturne> A bit chilly out right now, but it looks like it's going to be clear and sunny!  ... bleh.

13:17 * Schism|Nocturne wants thunderstorms. Flails!

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13:17 <CleverDerpy> hold that thought

13:18 * CleverDerpy finishes her tea and bolts off, returning with a thundercloud

13:18 <DARK> hello =)

13:18 <CleverDerpy> here, your own personal supply of rain and tunder~

13:18 <Schism|Nocturne> No, no, the real-life thunderstorms, the kind that stick around for hours and rumble appealingly.  Also, hihi.

13:18 <CleverDerpy> sorry stormy...

13:19 * CleverDerpy the cloud floats away, crying riandrops

13:19 <Schism|Nocturne> Terribly, terribly sorry, but those mini-thunderstorms are simply too vestigal for me.

13:20 <CleverDerpy> don't fret, she'll cry herself out and then hewlp lots of plants and be a happy cloud again

13:20 <CleverDerpy> she's just feeling a little under the weather, thus why she's a storm cloud today...

13:22 * CleverDerpy lays in the sun and purrs some more

13:24 * Electron hums a pony melody

13:24 * Pi quaffs orange juice

13:25 * CleverDerpy perks her ears up "is that toccata and fugue in d minor?"

13:26 <Electron> no, it's Raise This Barn in C major

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13:27 <CleverDerpy> ooh, I like that song

13:27 <thegoodhen> racist bar?

13:27 <CleverDerpy> in C minor?

13:28 * Schism|Nocturne hums The Gypsy Bard. Much happier tune! ... well, until you pay attention.

13:29 <Electron> but I want major tune

13:29 * Electron makes puppy eyes

13:29 <thegoodhen> major tuna

13:31 *** thegoodhen is now known as Pony|1571

13:32 <Schism|Nocturne> !link princess tuna

13:32 <DerpyBot> https://derpiboo.ru/767506

13:32 <Electron> I want to confess

13:32 <Pony|1571> noooo

13:32 <Pony|1571> I want confetti

13:32 <Electron> um... nope, I changed my mind

13:33 <Pony|1571> oh

13:33 <Pony|1571> I want you to confess now

13:33 *** Pony|1571 is now known as thegoodhen

13:33 * Electron makes innocent look

13:33 <thegoodhen> pweeze

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13:35 <Electron> I don't want you all to know my secrets

13:36 <thegoodhen> yay, pm

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13:38 * Electron basks

13:39 <thegoodhen> pmmm

13:40 <Schism|Nocturne> CleverDerpy: Have you heard of a truck hauler named McKenna?

13:41 <Schism|Nocturne> Rob McKenna is, in fact, a lorry driver - and a rain god.  The clouds follow him around because they love to water him and want him to be happy.

13:41 *** Init3-away is now known as init3

13:41 <thegoodhen> waot what

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13:42 <thegoodhen> Schism|Nocturne:I only know Terrence Mckenna

13:42 <thegoodhen> and Denis McKenna

13:42 <Schism|Nocturne> Yah, he hates the rain, but the clouds simply want to cherish him and water him.

13:42 <Schism|Nocturne> thegoodhen, http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Rob_McKenna

13:42 <Electron> is it some specific humor?

13:43 <Schism|Nocturne> Electron: Well, you know the old trope of a lorry splashing a miserable hitchhiker with a pool of water as it rains thoroughly?

13:43 <Electron> a-ha

13:43 <Schism|Nocturne> Yeah, he's that guy.

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13:43 <Schism|Nocturne> The lorry, not the hitchhiker.

13:44 <Electron> big meanie :<

13:44 <thegoodhen> Schism|Nocturne: https://www.google.cz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCEQFjAAahUKEwjyu57BiPnHAhWDliwKHWgCBzw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTerence_McKenna&usg=AFQjCNGPKgIabqV5nHMN24hfXqXD9DEBfw

13:46 <thegoodhen> hm. I guess I shouldn't post that stuff

13:46 <Schism|Nocturne> A wikipedia article's fine, though I would honestly avoid posting the Google Link to it, due to the length thereof.

13:47 <thegoodhen> yea, I clicked copy link adress

13:47 <thegoodhen> and it did this :3

13:47 <Schism|Nocturne> Also, ah, you're in the Czech Republic.

13:47 <thegoodhen> WAT HOW

13:47 <Electron> google = troll

13:47 <thegoodhen> oh wow.

13:47 <thegoodhen> Well. Oh well.

13:47 <Schism|Nocturne> The Google link you copied.  :P

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13:48 *** Schism|Nocturne is now known as Schism

13:48 <Electron> or should I say "google == troll"

13:48 *** Schism is now known as Schism|Nocturne

13:48 <thegoodhen> Electron:now tell me if I'm paranoid

13:48 <Electron> I don't know

13:48 <Schism|Nocturne> thegoodhen: Randomly, do a /whois on me.  <.< >.>

13:48 <FN_zZz> Wait, I can pay for netflix and still get ads???

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13:48 <Electron> you are dreaming, FN

13:49 <thegoodhen> Schism|Nocturne:yes?

13:49 <FN_zZz> What, you need "premium" to not get them?

13:49 * Schism|Nocturne is Schismatism@thehive.canterlot.equ.

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14:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Canterlot Botique Hits Google Play - No iTunes Yet  [ http://tinyurl.com/oxwumlg ]

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14:02 * Schism|Nocturne yawwwns. Considers. Then offers Heartbreak a burrito with fish and mango salsa.

14:02 <Heartbreak> Oooo!

14:03 <Heartbreak> Schism|Nocturne: I need more post it notes.

14:03 <Schism|Nocturne> Well, I might have a few minutes to add a couple...!

14:04 <Schism|Nocturne> Whoops, wrong Google account.

14:04 <Electron> conspiracy everywhere

14:04 <thegoodhen> tell me about it

14:04 <Electron> :D

14:05 <thegoodhen> turns out one girl I chat with sometimes keeps uploading the snippets to "one-liner" site

14:05 <thegoodhen> with my name .-. omg

14:05 * Schism|Nocturne also yawns and hats on Heartbreak while making post-it notes.

14:05 <thegoodhen> It's usually unfunny and obscene

14:05 <Heartbreak> ...

14:05 <Heartbreak> That's not very nice.

14:06 <thegoodhen> yea, she doesnt realise tho

14:06 <thegoodhen> it's not like she does it to hurt me

14:06 <thegoodhen> wait, I just said my oneliners were unfunny and obscene

14:06 <Electron> but damage has already been done

14:06 <thegoodhen> they are funny, but only like 20 seconds after I write them

14:07 <thegoodhen> they expire quickly

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14:07 <thegoodhen> Im kinda flattered she thinks it's awesome enough to share tho

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14:11 <thegoodhen> but I sometimes just say stuff to make her laugh although it's real stupid

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14:11 <LunaticHell> gooooood morning, equestria

14:12 <thegoodhen> aaaand the guys from my city

14:12 <thegoodhen> were nice enough to link my real name with this nick

14:12 <thegoodhen> sigh

14:12 * Schism|Nocturne boops LunaticHell with a cherry and cream cheese pastry, and a cup of black coffee.

14:12 <Electron> let's make a revelation

14:13 * LunaticHell hugs Schism|Nocturne and takes the coffee.

14:13 <thegoodhen> I might wanna change my nick

14:13 <thegoodhen> but no!

14:13 <thegoodhen> I will, instead, act in such a way that it is never compromising

14:14 <thegoodhen> and stand behind what I do :3

14:14 <thegoodhen> Hm.

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14:15 * Heartbreak waves at Electron.

14:18 * Schism|Nocturne also boops Heartbreak with a bowl of macaroni and cheese, with hot dogs, ketchup, a little mustard powder, and some sriracha.

14:19 <Heartbreak> Fake hotdogs right?

14:19 <Unixkitty> Woo I have over 4 million lines of logs stored just for this channel

14:20 <LunaticHell> uni!

14:20 <Unixkitty> Yes?

14:20 * LunaticHell hugs the Unixkitty.

14:20 <Unixkitty> Oh hello LunaticHell

14:20 <Schism|Nocturne> Yes, fake hotdogs.

14:20 * Electron waves to Heartbreak back from the distance

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14:21 <Heartbreak> Sooooooo... Electron... Does the tumblr room ... make... sense?

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14:22 <LunaticHell> I found my quote for the day. =D

14:22 <LunaticHell> "Tell a man a truth and he'll think for a day. Teach him to reason and he'll think for a lifetime."

14:23 <Electron> in a world full of magic, I think it is, yeah, H.B.

14:25 * Heartbreak ruffles Electron and gives them a quantum singularity.

14:25 <Schism|Nocturne> Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day.  Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.

14:25 <Electron> hey! my mane...    ._.

14:26 <Electron> fascinating, Schism|Nocturne

14:27 <Schism|Nocturne> Electron: I can't take credit for it.  That belongs to the late great Sir Terry Pratchett.

14:27 <Electron> so... um.... how are the things, H.B.?

14:30 <CleverDerpy> hiya

14:30 <NewFoal063> http://fightingismagicmega.yolasite.com/

14:30 * CleverDerpy squees "Heartbreak~"

14:31 <Heartbreak> Derpy!

14:31 * Heartbreak shows CleverDerpy to Electron

14:31 <CleverDerpy> hiya Electron~

14:31 <CleverDerpy> we've met, Heartbreak

14:31 <Electron> I... um... well.. hello CleverDerpy

14:32 <Electron> not really, I don't see you here often

14:34 <CleverDerpy> I didn't say often, but I think I remember you

14:34 <Electron> I remember you too

14:34 * CleverDerpy puts her hoof out and smiles "nice to meet you either way"

14:36 * Electron shakes CleverDerpy's hoof: "nice meet you as well"

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14:36 * CleverDerpy lets go and derps

14:38 * Electron brings his cup of tea to his lips, but misses and pours the tea on his chin while looking at CleverDerpy

14:39 <CleverDerpy> oh my... are you ok?!

14:39 <Electron> gah! D:

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14:39 * CleverDerpy grabs you a towel and stars rubbing your spill spots "what happened?"

14:39 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

14:40 <Electron> I don't know, I just carried away by the sight I think

14:40 <Electron> hello, Thelema5

14:41 <Electron> thanks, CleverDerpy, you are good pony

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14:52 <Electron> what's your favourite fruit, Thelema5?

14:54 <Thelema5> Hard to say- I'm not especially partial to sweets.  I guess cantaloupe, or banana

14:54 <Thelema5> Why do you ask?

14:55 <Electron> and when is your birthday, Thelema5?

14:55 <Electron> because those questions are connected

14:56 <Thelema5> It's December 6th

14:57 <Electron> hm...

14:59 <Electron> and you don't like sweets

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14:59 * Schism|Nocturne finishes a lot of mac 'n cheese.

14:59 <Electron> that could hamper

14:59 * Schism|Nocturne then goes to take a nap. @_@ For... oh, an hour.

14:59 <LightningCrash> This is a bizarre series of questions. o.O

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15:00 <LightningCrash> This questionnaire belongs in Cosmare. :p

15:00 <Thelema5> Rather.

15:01 <Schism|Nocturne> "I went to Comic-Con as 'Drunk Uncle Ben.'  The goal: pass out and die in front of as many Spidermen as possible."

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15:06 <Thelema5> hue hue hue

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15:24 <Thelema5> !stats

15:24 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/stats/EquestriaDaily/

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16:24 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Who am i getting shot by!

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16:31 <Thelema5> Were you getting shot?

16:32 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Yup

16:32 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Contract wars

16:32 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> We went over this

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16:33 <Thelema5> Yeah... yesterday.  You can't expect people to presume the same context that far out.  You be be involved in any number of pursuits between then and now.

16:34 <Thelema5> *could be

16:34 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> I stopped for now

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16:36 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Hi ProjectCarthage

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16:37 <ProjectCarthage> ...Hey.

16:38 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> U ok buddy?

16:38 <CocoPommel> "Youth is wasted on the young" - Ha! I like.

16:39 <SilverStreak> Hi

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16:39 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Hi

16:39 <CocoPommel> Hewwo

16:39 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> So many hi's

16:39 <SilverStreak> Glad to see the irc isn't dead

16:40 <WorkingData> http://i.imgur.com/kRhZs5d.png

16:40 <WorkingData> xD

16:40 <ProjectCarthage> Yeah, I'm ok, I'm just still thinking about what happened here last night, (No I'm not gonna go over it, it's too long to explain)

16:40 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Ok?

16:40 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> !log

16:40 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html

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16:41 <ProjectCarthage> TL;DR I'm not as gung-ho about learning to animate as I was a few days ago.

16:41 <Electron> this? — http://www.westerngardens.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/IMG_1821.jpg

16:41 <ProjectCarthage> Because I'm "Not willing to get used to another program" and Flash is too expensive, End of story.

16:42 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Oh

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16:45 <CocoPommel> ..you don't /have/ to work digitally you know

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16:45 <ProjectCarthage> It's all about "How FiM and these fan animators do it"

16:45 <CocoPommel> Even at a professional level you can still use paper if you prefer

16:46 <CocoPommel> There's a lot of programs out there

16:46 <ProjectCarthage> I'm not exactly good enough at drawing to do classic 2D type stuff, wanna see something I drew?

16:46 <CocoPommel> Sure if you want

16:47 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Idk what to do right now

16:47 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> I might go back to building

16:48 <ProjectCarthage> CocoPommel: https://i.imgur.com/BMV6oZ6.jpg

16:49 <CocoPommel> I feel like I've seen your drawings before

16:49 <CocoPommel> Well, everyone has to start somewhere

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16:49 <CocoPommel> Just do what you want to do

16:49 <CocoPommel> What was it you were trying to do, with the digital animation stuff? Like, sfm videos?

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16:50 <ProjectCarthage> I've been trying to do 2D Flash, like how the show, and by extension the fans usually do it.

16:50 <CocoPommel> And if you want to get good at drawing you just have to practice

16:50 <ProjectCarthage> There's no way I'd be able to do SFM.

16:50 <CocoPommel> Ok

16:50 <CocoPommel> There's a lot of programs that can do flash style animation

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16:51 <ProjectCarthage> This is part of the reason I didn't want to talk about it, me, Tirek, and a couple other people got into an argument last night about me using other programs, but I've become to accustom to Flash's functions and layout to move to something else.

16:52 <ProjectCarthage> Heck, I've already even made some minor things in it. > https://i.gyazo.com/8e6f4da7ab4042e6284cc1194e21c9cf.gif

16:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> Argument? Like, full-on yelling at each other insult-slinging thing?

16:53 <ProjectCarthage> Well, no, not like that.

16:53 <ProjectCarthage> I just got upset, then VinylScratch went all "Moving. On." then I just kinda left

16:53 <CocoPommel> I'm guessing the demo/trial period ended?

16:53 <Electron> oh, this is you again, ProjectCarthage

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16:54 <Electron> how are you doing?

16:54 <ProjectCarthage> Yeah, the trials have ended on both versions I have

16:54 <CocoPommel> Apparently 'Synfig' is good if you're looking for a free program that works similar to flash

16:54 <ProjectCarthage> Oh, that one again.

16:54 <CocoPommel> Heh, guess not?

16:55 <CocoPommel> Either that or gimp/gap are probably the best you're going to do for free

16:55 <ProjectCarthage> Yeah, that was one of the first that Tirek showed me, it's just to different, and since I don't have a Drawing tablet, I can't make my own puppets and I can't use the premade stuff

16:56 <Twilight`Sparkle> Gimp does animation stuff?

16:56 <CocoPommel> So you want more of a cut out animation program

16:56 <CocoPommel> Yeah

16:56 <Twilight`Sparkle> Huh.

16:56 <Twilight`Sparkle> I've only used it for minor image editing.

16:56 <CocoPommel> Gap apparently is an ad on for animation

16:56 <CocoPommel> Add

16:57 <CocoPommel> If you have linux you could try Ktoon

16:57 <Twilight`Sparkle> ...oh hey, my client reverted my name.

16:57 <ProjectCarthage> I've heard of one called 'Toonboom" that is similar to flash, and while you do have to pay for it, it's not a Subscription Service like the current Flash

16:58 * Electron feels he is being ignored: "oh well..." ( ._.)

16:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> You said like one thing.

16:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> That didn't really need a response.

16:58 <CocoPommel> Toonboom is $329.99 according to my source

16:59 <Twilight`Sparkle> Unless there was more from before I joined again, but yeah.

16:59 <Electron> but I said two things  ._.

16:59 <ProjectCarthage> ...

16:59 <Twilight`Sparkle> Oh, so you did, my error.

16:59 <CocoPommel> CreaToon might be worth looking at, it's free

16:59 <CocoPommel> It's cut out style only though, apparently

17:00 * CocoPommel shrugs

17:00 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yeah, regardless of what road you go down, you're eventually going to hit that wall of "pay to continue"

17:00 <CocoPommel> But yeah, you may have to get used to another program..

17:01 <ProjectCarthage> I've been suggested Flash Piracy, but I'm too afraid of messing up the computer, with all that registry editing nonsense.

17:01 <CocoPommel> Personally, I would go the 'learning the free software' route but that's me

17:02 <CocoPommel> Good luck though

17:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> If you were going go down that route, what you'd want is a computer or partition dedicated to that with an easy reformat (like a reinstall disc) on hand.

17:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> Even with that you are still able to do registry backups and etc. to revert changes.

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17:04 <Nell> Hello Luke

17:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> Depending on how serious you are about it, though, one of the advantages of taking college courses in the field is that tuition will pay for training but also equipment, at least for as long as you're at the college. I'd guess that certain places might also let you have it after the course is over, on the idea that part of your tuition was buying the stuff.

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17:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> Of course tuition = going into debt usually, so that's not necesarily a good option either.

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17:06 <CocoPommel> I want super Mario maker :<

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17:06 <CocoPommel> I would play it...right now! - if I could :/

17:07 <Twilight`Sparkle> So... go get it?

17:07 <CocoPommel> I don't have enough money. Or a Wii U

17:07 * CocoPommel waits for Christmas

17:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Canterlot Siege 4 - Power Ponies Edition  [ http://tinyurl.com/o2ufbn8 ]

17:08 <Twilight`Sparkle> You still in high school?

17:08 <ProjectCarthage> Who, me?

17:08 <Twilight`Sparkle> No, Coco.

17:08 <CocoPommel> ? No, why? :

17:08 <Twilight`Sparkle> Busy with college?

17:08 <CocoPommel> Kind of..

17:09 <CocoPommel> I'm a student.

17:09 <Twilight`Sparkle> Not enough time to find and then hold down a job, eh?

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17:09 <CocoPommel> I'm employed

17:09 <Twilight`Sparkle> Ah, cool.

17:09 <CocoPommel> I just need to work more often

17:09 <Twilight`Sparkle> Don't make enough to save up for the console and game, then?

17:09 <CocoPommel> I haven't worked in a year

17:10 * Twilight`Sparkle blinks.

17:10 <CocoPommel> But yeah, I'm planning on working and saving up for it

17:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> What job do you have that lets you not work for a year but you're still employed?

17:10 <CocoPommel> Hollywood

17:10 <CocoPommel> Tv/movies ect

17:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> I'm confused.

17:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> Oh.

17:10 <CocoPommel> I'm a background actor

17:11 <CocoPommel> I get paid for being out of focus

17:11 <wobniaR> CocoPommel confirmed background pony

17:11 <CocoPommel> Lol

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17:12 <Pony|86092> well I'm back you know

17:12 <Twilight`Sparkle> I suppose I'll have to take your word for it.

17:12 * CocoPommel waves

17:12 <Pony|86092> wee, Hi, Coco

17:12 <CocoPommel> Hello

17:12 <Pony|86092> I might change my nick

17:13 <Pony|86092> Twilight Sparkle

17:13 <CocoPommel> Try /nick (name)

17:13 <Pony|86092> I know

17:13 <Pony|86092> but thanks anyway

17:14 <CocoPommel> :3

17:14 * CocoPommel goes to feed cats

17:14 <TimidTanuki> O_O

17:14 <TimidTanuki> http://www.ijreview.com/2015/09/416847-big-apple-welcomes-back-last-living-911-sr-dog-16th-birthday-blowout/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Partners&utm_term=PRM17&ts_pid=2

17:14 <TimidTanuki> So adorables!!!

17:15 * TimidTanuki dies of sweetcuteadorable

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17:16 <Pony|86092> GUYS! Big news

17:16 <Pony|86092> my pants fell off

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17:16 <Pony|86092> LOL

17:16 <Pony|86092> what a coincidence

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17:30 <CocoPommel> x3

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17:45 <LunaticHell> Why is it so hard to not see pony characters when playing Starbound?

17:46 <Twilight`Sparkle> hm?

17:48 <LunaticHell> I just visted an ol' USCM prison and first there was this fluttershy-ish gal trying to flatten me with a chair, then a flutterguy-ish ...guy tried to riddle me with an Uzi and just now a lil applebloom (including bow) tried to kill me stab by stab. (ooooh baby)

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17:54 <Twilight`Sparkle> Y'all silly.

17:55 <LunaticHell> ;P

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17:57 * Electron considers is he silly or not?

17:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yes. You are.

17:59 <Electron> alright, miss Twilight, let it be as you say

17:59 <Electron> better silly than evil and grumpy

18:00 <Twilight`Sparkle> "Who's a silly pony? Who's a silly pony? Who is? You is!"

18:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: All the Background Music and the Song from "Canterlot Boutique" [ http://tinyurl.com/qjhjqv7 ]

18:02 <Pony|35442> am I silly?

18:03 <Twilight`Sparkle> You have numbers for a name. So yes.

18:03 <Pony|35442> that's because

18:03 <Pony|35442> it's meee

18:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> IT WAS ME, AUSTIN! ALL ALONG!

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18:04 <LunaticHell> *gasp*

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18:04 <Thelema5> I'm guessing "you" are thegoodhen?

18:04 <Pony|35442> how do you know? :3

18:04 <LunaticHell> I wasn't sure about the "the" part...

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18:05 <Pony|35442> LunaticHell:huhuhuh!

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18:18 <DerpyBot> *derp*

18:22 <Electron> *derp*

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18:30 <NewFoal063> http://i.imgur.com/Wkj6Y8S.png

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18:55 <Happy> im a pony lover

18:55 <Pony|35442> me too!

18:55 <Happy> i want 1000 ponies xD

18:56 <Happy> gimme all in world ^_______^

18:56 <Thelema5> Hello, Happy

18:56 <Thelema5> Welcome to a chat.

18:56 <Pony|35442> there have to be some left for me you know

18:56 <VinylScratch> Pffft, ponies for all...

18:56 <Happy> hello tank :3

18:56 <Thelema5> Who is your favorite pony, Happy?

18:56 <Pony|35442> Pinkie Pie

19:00 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> ... Hi

19:00 <VinylScratch> yo, skippez

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19:00 <SmallskippeZ> Well, that went weel

19:00 <SmallskippeZ> Well

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19:02 <SmallskippeZ> So, how to get my mind going?

19:03 <Thelema5> The Juice of Sapho?

19:04 <Happy> i love all teh ponies

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19:05 <Happy> especally apple pie

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19:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic #37—Equestria Daily Exclusive First Look! [ http://tinyurl.com/p6oqtfk ]

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19:06 <Happy> i like two play with my litel ponies draw book and stuff :3

19:06 <Happy> also to my little pony convention in my city

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19:17 <wobniaR> All the ponies belong to ME

19:17 * wobniaR steals VinylScratch

19:17 <LightningCrash> Nuuuuuu

19:17 * VinylScratch ganonteleports away

19:17 <LightningCrash> you need to pay sales tax on VinylScratch. :p

19:18 * VinylScratch belongs to nopony!

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19:18 <Thelema5> Happy, have you been to the convention in your city?

19:19 <Happy> yes :) it was foney

19:19 <Happy> funney *

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19:19 <Thelema5> What did you enjoy the most about the convention?

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19:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony Friends Forever #23—Equestria Daily Exclusive First Look! [ http://tinyurl.com/pzqljem ]

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19:42 <Thelema5> Hello, Tactile11.  Welcome to a chat!

19:42 <Pony|86092> sup

19:42 <SmallskippeZ> Hai

19:42 <Tactile11> Thank you... I don't think I have been in this one before.

19:42 <Electron> good evening

19:42 <Thelema5> I don't think so either.

19:42 <Pony|86092> you have, haven't you

19:42 <Pony|86092> ooh, you were on canterlothill.

19:42 <Tactile11> I have been on the canterlot hill mostly... I don't know about this.

19:43 <VinylScratch> We're all pretty a'ight

19:43 <Tactile11> I can tell.

19:43 <VinylScratch> just chill here and get to know things!

19:43 <Tactile11> Thanks!

19:43 <Pony|86092> I wanna chill.

19:43 <Tactile11> me too

19:43 * VinylScratch applies a freeze ray to Pony|86092 and Tactile11!

19:43 <VinylScratch> There, now you're the chillest. ;3

19:43 <SmallskippeZ> Hyor

19:43 * Thelema5 offers everypony ice cubes

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19:44 <SmallskippeZ> Me and LunaticHell are the insane ones, bear that in mind

19:44 <Electron> noo, stop it

19:44 <Electron> don't freeze other ponies to death

19:44 <Tactile11> Thank you. I feel frozen. And I'm insane too. Just sayin'.

19:44 <LunaticHell> somepone new?

19:44 <Pony|86092> I am not new.

19:44 <Tactile11> yes I'm new

19:44 <Thelema5> Tactile11, who is your favorite pony?

19:45 <LunaticHell> Well, welcome to equestria daily, have fun, make friends, obey the rules and drive a benz.

19:45 * VinylScratch is the typical awesome mod, naturally. :3

19:45 <LunaticHell> Pony|86092: have you been lately infected with the "he's definatly refering to me" virus? :P

19:46 <LunaticHell> Tactile11: have a cider =D

19:46 <SmallskippeZ> LunaticHell, but KooK has confirmed many times imma ride a 93 buick ;(

19:46 <Tactile11> One can not simply pick a favorite pony. However, I think if I could hug any pony, it would be either VinylScratch, Lyra, Derpy, or.... Octavia.

19:46 <VinylScratch> Heh, good choices all around

19:46 <Thelema5> Yus

19:46 <Electron> listen to that pone

19:46 <Electron> he speaks the truth

19:46 <Tactile11> Ooh I trade in my Octavia for a Fluttershy card.

19:47 <Tactile11> :)

19:47 <LunaticHell> Tactile11: http://mylittlefacewhen.com/f/2637/

19:47 <LunaticHell> SmallskippeZ: what kinda car is that?

19:47 <Tactile11> blocked at my school. Clase de español.

19:47 <SmallskippeZ> I DONT KNOW

19:47 <LunaticHell> SmallskippeZ: take a german car, master car, goo to race.

19:47 <LunaticHell> good*

19:47 <SmallskippeZ> Its all nof what i want

19:48 <VinylScratch> " You can't always geeeet what you waaaant!~ " ♫

19:48 <SmallskippeZ> I wanna v10 audi r8 convi or a 2 series beamer

19:48 <LunaticHell> You drive the master car, then you can take part in the master race. Pun intended.

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19:48 <LunaticHell> VinylScratch: But I can get a hug.

19:48 <SmallskippeZ> LunaticHell you cheeky... European

19:48 * LunaticHell does it so.

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19:48 <VinylScratch> S'pose you could! :3

19:49 <Tactile11> I'm american. :P

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19:49 * LunaticHell lets the hugging of VinylScratch commence.

19:49 * VinylScratch is british mare, pureblood! :P

19:49 <LunaticHell> Tactile11: howdy, I'm a german.

19:49 <Tactile11> Studying spanish. In high school. regular teen weirdness.

19:49 <LunaticHell> You'll be outta it once you hit 20.

19:50 <SmallskippeZ> VinylScratch, you do know hiw unpure the blood of a british js?

19:50 <Tactile11> we americans have a stereotype that says that we are dumb and rude, but really I wish I could break that stereotype. I'm generally nice.

19:50 * VinylScratch baps skippez, not the point!

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19:50 <LunaticHell> Oh, ya gettin' it all wrong, Tactile11 , the stereotype is different from state to state.

19:50 <LunaticHell> Don't go to detroit.

19:51 <Tactile11> Haha. I'm from Indiana

19:51 <LunaticHell> Nice.

19:51 <SmallskippeZ> VinylScratch, i know

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19:52 <SmallskippeZ> My god my bad mood is taking me over... Jeez i need help or something

19:53 <LunaticHell> I've been told to abvoid following areas: Detroit, San Fran, the bronce, southern california (too much rain), detroit, the garden state and washington and the wall street.

19:53 <Tactile11> Gosh* shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God. GAH sorry. Habbit. I have been raised too well.

19:53 <LunaticHell> Oh and the tristate area.

19:54 <SmallskippeZ> Oh Tactile11

19:54 * LunaticHell raises an eyebrow. o. ô

19:54 <SmallskippeZ> Thanx for reminding me

19:54 <SmallskippeZ> Bein a christian myself

19:54 <Tactile11> Indiana is in the tristate area. It isn't bad. It's really only the big cities that are bad.

19:54 <SmallskippeZ> It sucks how bad some of my habits are

19:54 <Tactile11> Sure thing, btw, SmallskippeZ

19:54 <LunaticHell> Actually I just wanted to throw in a reference to a cartoon, Tactile11.

19:54 <Tactile11> I have a habit called laziness

19:55 <Tactile11> and what is that reference, LunaticHell

19:55 <LunaticHell> Phineas and Ferb live in the tri-state area, I think.

19:55 <Thelema5> I have a habit called pones

19:55 <SmallskippeZ> Wait, Tactile11, i usually ask this, so dont be too weirded out, but im usually curious on gender and age

19:55 <CleverDerpy> I like muffins

19:55 <Tactile11> Yes they do. Northern indiana. Danville. I have been there.

19:55 <CleverDerpy> i was born in indiana

19:55 <Tactile11> SmallskippeZ: I am 15 years, male, and in high school.

19:56 <LunaticHell> It's not that unusual that cartoons, comics or fiction in general uses real life places as setting.

19:56 <Tactile11> I was born here too, CleverDerpy

19:56 <SmallskippeZ> Still 2nd youngest

19:56 * CleverDerpy sits and derps

19:56 <LunaticHell> Ironman lives in new york, alongside peter parker and the fantastic four.

19:56 * SmallskippeZ pumps his fist upward

19:56 <ProjectCarthage> I'm 16

19:56 * Thelema5 is second oldest

19:56 <Tactile11> Wbu, SmallskippeZ

19:56 * VinylScratch chuckles

19:57 <SmallskippeZ> 13, secondary school, coz diff in america and england

19:57 <Tactile11> ah okay.

19:57 <CleverDerpy> i am hungry, anypony got any muffins?

19:57 <Thelema5> !muffin

19:57 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3

19:57 <Thelema5> no

19:57 * DerpyBot walks away with a drooping tail

19:57 <Tactile11> kk. gtg. theatre class

19:57 <VinylScratch> you're so mean. xD

19:57 <CleverDerpy> that was mean

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19:58 <Thelema5> But I don't have any

19:58 <Thelema5> :p

19:58 <pony> Hi

19:58 <LunaticHell> I'm 28 thosand years old, an elderich abormination from beyond the edges of the known universe and I enjoy a good cup o' coffee and cartoons with ponies.

19:58 <SmallskippeZ> Oh, fun fact, im almost 6"2'

19:58 <Thelema5> Hello, pony

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19:59 <LunaticHell> I have earned a degree that's sadly not yet valid inside the known universe, so...that's that.

19:59 <LunaticHell> also :P

19:59 <Pony_77458> How's everyone doing?

19:59 <SmallskippeZ> Gut

19:59 <LunaticHell> Bene

20:00 <CleverDerpy> Fun fact, most facts listed as fun facts are in fact bizarre attempts at making light of a subject by telling you something that is consider uncommon knowledge, but there very little garentee you can actually call a fun fact "fun."

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20:00 <LunaticHell> Tactile11: Oh yeah just a quick tip, if you haven't yet, you should really read da rules. If you don't know, they should be linked in the topic line, if you can't find em, I can give you a link.

20:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony Holiday Special—Equestria Daily Exclusive First Look! [ http://tinyurl.com/naelsyg ]

20:01 <SmallskippeZ> Fun fact, CleverDerpy cant spell Guarantee

20:01 <SmallskippeZ> XD just playin

20:01 <CleverDerpy> Exactly my point.

20:01 <PinkiePieInsane> Fun fact, this is true, all my fun facts are not fun, most of them are horrifying in nature.

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20:01 <CleverDerpy> But it's true

20:02 <Thelema5> Fun fact: Pinkie Pie.

20:02 <CleverDerpy> fun facts are inappropriately title 90% of the time by nature

20:02 <CleverDerpy> Fact; today i cannot grammar...

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20:04 <SmallskippeZ> Fact: i am not a dentist

20:05 <CleverDerpy> By that logic, a "fun fact" could be: 2+2=4, but if you add 0.1 to the first 2, that statement is wrong and right, depending if you round or not.

20:06 <CleverDerpy> Also, on the note SmallskippeZ made about spelling that word, it's a good thing I'm not a salespony.

20:07 <SmallskippeZ> XD

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20:07 <CleverDerpy> Ok, smart time over.... i need muffins to function.

20:08 * CleverDerpy purrs and lays in the sunlight

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20:12 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/P-cx0qToGhU

20:12 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

20:12 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Steven Universe - "Steven and the Stevens" (Song) (HD)

20:18 <SmallskippeZ> Bored

20:19 <Thelema5> Plank

20:20 <Electron> VinylScratch, http://ibsn.deviantart.com/art/DJ-Pon3-558798743

20:20 <VinylScratch> great~

20:22 <Electron> Thelema5, http://kmrshy.deviantart.com/art/Melon-drop-pony-391889787

20:23 <Thelema5> Adorbs

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20:30 <Electron> CleverDerpy, http://tinyurl.com/o7fdtru

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20:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony December Trade Releases—Equestria Daily Exclusive First Look! [ http://tinyurl.com/od3huxq ]

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20:34 <Thelema5> How was your theater class, Tactile11?

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20:37 <Pony|86092> I gotta say that

20:37 <Pony|86092> well nevermind

20:37 * VinylScratch nods

20:37 <Pony|86092> VinylScratch: ? :3

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20:52 * Thelema5 dangles daringly down the doorframe during doing dumb deeds discretely

20:53 <Electron> Twilight`Sparkle, http://v0jelly.deviantart.com/art/Twi-s-New-Hair-526257993

20:53 <fyrepony> well...croatia just legalized cannabis

20:53 <fyrepony> it seems EU is following

20:53 <Thelema5> Good for them!

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20:54 <Thelema5> Legalized for recreational use?

20:55 <fyrepony> Thelema5:  medicational

20:55 <fyrepony> still its a step

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20:56 <Thelema5> I I suppose... I've never been in favor of regulating like a medication because it invests more power to the medical idustrial complex and eliminates the ability to tax the product in many areas

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20:58 <fyrepony> Thelema5:  not to mention grovers can still claim its for medicational and sell in on darkmarkets

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20:59 <Librarian> today!

20:59 <Librarian> is mexico day owo

21:00 <Thelema5> New York (My state) has technically legalized it for medicial use, but the infrastructure isn't in place (after two years) for any anyone to actually have it dispensed... not to mention it's to be prescribed for "serious, life threatening" conditions only; I would personally benefit greatly if there were to broaden that to include things like anxiety disorders.

21:00 <Librarian> its independence day here owo

21:00 <Thelema5> Happy mexico day!

21:01 * Thelema5 celebrates by hitting explosives with a large hammer

21:01 <Librarian> you are all honorary mexicans today

21:01 <Librarian> go have tequila

21:02 <Thelema5> W00T

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21:02 <Librarian> cocoloco

21:02 <Librarian> owo

21:02 <CocoPommel> Heya *pets*

21:02 <CocoPommel> Hope you're well

21:02 <Librarian> you want tequila its independece day

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21:03 <Thelema5> Hi, CocoPommel!

21:05 <CocoPommel> Hi :]

21:05 <CocoPommel> It is?

21:05 <CocoPommel> My closet light just burnt out, I have to fix it, brb

21:06 <CocoPommel> Dang you Edison!..

21:06 <Librarian> edison!!!

21:06 <Librarian> owo

21:07 <Thelema5> Replace it with a LED

21:07 <Librarian> replace with a gu wth a torvh

21:07 <Librarian> guy with a torch

21:07 <Thelema5> They pay for themselves in three years, and last for 15+

21:07 <Librarian> he has to be named jack

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21:10 <thegoodhen> guys

21:10 <thegoodhen> you there?

21:10 <Librarian> no

21:10 <thegoodhen> oh

21:10 <Librarian> we are a figment of your imaginaion

21:10 <thegoodhen> :3

21:10 <Cephy-SortaHere> There is a possibility that I am here, but there is no evidence to support it.

21:11 <thegoodhen> Well, I kinda feel liiiiittle bit down and could use talkin to sumpony

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21:11 <thegoodhen> but dont wanna bring drama in the mane chat

21:11 <Librarian> ohh

21:11 <thegoodhen> anypony up to a quick pm?

21:12 <thegoodhen> I won't rant too much, promise xD

21:12 <Librarian> im not good with that owo

21:12 <Librarian> soww

21:12 <thegoodhen> np

21:12 * Thelema5 pattypats

21:12 <thegoodhen> thanks, man :3

21:15 <CocoPommel> I had a bunch of curly lights but they got lost in a move, not by me.

21:16 <CocoPommel> But yeah led would be nice

21:16 * CocoPommel hugs thegoodhen

21:16 <CocoPommel> Oh nooo phone :/ ugh, this day..

21:16 * Cephy-SortaHere flops.

21:16 * CocoPommel rolls

21:17 * thegoodhen hugs CocoPommel

21:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> I am most definitively not actuall present.

21:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> This is merely my time echo.

21:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> It is very similar to, but not the same as, me being here.

21:18 <Cephy-SortaHere> Aye.  He predicts the future and simply casts magic to create echos that will respond in his place.

21:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> Although occasionally it goes the other way.

21:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> I did it laterally, once.

21:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> But only the once.

21:20 <Cephy-SortaHere> Laterally?  How does that work?

21:20 *** Cephy-SortaHere is now known as Cepheid

21:20 <Twilight`Sparkle> Very poorly.

21:21 * LunaticHell makes bored horse noises.

21:21 <LunaticHell> oh hi Cepheid

21:21 <Cepheid> Hoi.

21:22 <LunaticHell> Cepheid: hey, I got an idea for your server, why not take over a USCM prison and run with it?

21:22 <Cepheid> Turning it into a colony where we imprison the colonists?

21:22 <Cepheid> It could work.

21:22 <Cepheid> We could even construct our own prison. :P

21:22 <LunaticHell> Yeah, but it's harder to create one from scrap that modifying an existing one.

21:23 <LunaticHell> Which, as you do know the state of the prisons, would actually, too, be considered "created from scrap".

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21:31 * Thelema5 suddenly wants to play Arkanoid

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21:34 * fyrepony is drinking rose wine

21:34 <fyrepony> im tipsy pony

21:36 <Cepheid> http://www.citynews.ca/2015/09/14/air-canada-pilot-diverts-international-flight-to-save-dog/ Sometimes, air pilots make good moves.

21:37 <Cepheid> Well, air pilots probably want to make more good moves, but can't for various reasons.  Many of them probably being "Upper management"

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21:39 <Schism> And now, Taco Tuesday.

21:40 * Schism boops folks with some thereof.

21:41 <Thelema5> Mmmm.  Tacos

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21:41 <Cepheid> Taco Tuesday + Amnesia Tuesday.

21:42 <Cepheid> As apparently Amnesia is free today.

21:42 <Librarian> owo

21:42 <Schism> Hmm, well, tis a great game to be sure.

21:43 <Cepheid> Indeed.

21:43 <Cepheid> So if you don't own it, be sure to grab it for free while you can.

21:43 <Librarian> on what_

21:43 <Librarian> steam?

21:44 <Cepheid> Yeah.

21:45 <Schism> It's also tech issue tuesday for us.  Blargh.

21:45 *** Schism is now known as Schism|TechSupport

21:47 <Librarian> owo

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21:49 <Cepheid> Great, I'm hearing things.

21:49 <Cepheid> I could have sworn I just heard someone open the front door and walked into the house..

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21:50 <Librarian> vynil senpai!

21:50 <Librarian> owo

21:50 * VinylScratch pretends to not notice!

21:51 * Schism|TechSupport boops VinylScratch with a taco. It has spinach!

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21:51 <Happy> guys i just found out im going to prison :(

21:51 <Thelema5> O.o

21:52 <Thelema5> I thought you were like 15?

21:52 * Twilight`Sparkle raises an eyebrow.

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21:52 <Happy> i pirated too much my little pony episodes and everything from piratebay

21:53 <VinylScratch> Not sure that's something to advertise TOO much. :p

21:53 <Happy> im 19 now what do i do i just wanted to watch

21:53 <Twilight`Sparkle> Get a lawyer.

21:53 <Twilight`Sparkle> And stop talking about it on here.

21:53 <Happy> my bail is on 50.000 dollars and my family dont have that much

21:53 <Twilight`Sparkle> See my previous statements.

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21:54 <Happy> just be careful ok dont download from pirating

21:54 <Twilight`Sparkle> I reiterate previous statement.

21:54 <Renard> Sure, that happened

21:55 <Happy> anyways anyone know any good my little pony porn sites?

21:55 *** Happy was kicked by Twilight`Sparkle (This is your one warning.)

21:56 <Cepheid> ...

21:56 <Cepheid> BLoody trolls.

21:56 <Cepheid> Honestly, if his bail was already set, he'd be in jail and not on the Internet, wouldn't he?

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21:56 *** VinylScratch is now known as Princess-Luna

21:56 <Happy> what the fuck i just wanted to talk about brony porn ok why kick me

21:56 <Princess-Luna> Stop

21:57 <Princess-Luna> We do not DISCUSS that here

21:57 <Twilight`Sparkle> Follow the rules or get out.

21:57 <Happy> ok sry

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21:57 <Renard> Some clarification here: Hasbro doesn't hunt people who torrent in the first place, and ISPs sends a sh!load of letters before taking any further legal action

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21:58 <yaymuffins> OK so

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21:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> Renard: either it's a serious situation in which case discussion of it on here is in no one's best interest and thus shouldn't be encouraged, or it's a troll situation in which discussion of it on here is in no one's best interest.

21:58 <yaymuffins> Hasbro never ever looked at a torrrent.

21:58 <Renard> TS: troll

21:58 <yaymuffins> and even if it was the case, you would had 20 letters from your ISP asking you to stop downloading.

21:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> In whihc case we don't feed the trolls.

21:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> Do we?

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21:59 <Twilight`Sparkle> Don't address it, sandbag it.

21:59 <Renard> We should, they make delicious bacon when they get fat

22:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Isolation 78 / Messenger 5 / Everfree 18 / To Love Alicorn 27 / Recall the Time 33 [ http://tinyurl.com/pzo8g4z ]

22:02 <yaymuffins> Beside, that guy is norwegian, not american.

22:02 * Cepheid debates adding a joke monster "Troll" to his roguelike. But wonders how best to describe it.

22:02 <yaymuffins> Basically, definitive troll, can't wait to get that fat bacon Renard promised me :)

22:02 <Cepheid> So to show just how good Old Spice is at advertising:  My dad's neck-deep in finishing his work and pretty focused on it, right?

22:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> yaymuffins: Do you see my barren field?

22:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> It's where I grow all my cares.

22:03 <Cepheid> An Old Spice commercial came onto the TV, one of the ones with the screaming/yelling guy.

22:03 <Princess-Luna> Terry Crews

22:03 <Cepheid> And my dad immediately looked up with a "What the--?" look on his face and watched the entire commercial.

22:03 <Princess-Luna> I love him. xD

22:03 <Cepheid> And was confused by the end of the commercial.

22:04 <Princess-Luna> Clearly he did not have the correct power level to comprehend

22:04 <Princess-Luna> he needs to grind.

22:05 <Thelema5> Well folks, I'm heading home.  Bye everyypony!

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22:08 <Cepheid> I'ma trot off to do chores.

22:08 <Cepheid> I shall be back later.

22:08 <Twilight`Sparkle> Cya.

22:08 <Renard> Qwack

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22:18 <Schism|TechSupport> "Once I had a dream about being attacked by tongue depressors." -Doctor Stable

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22:34 <DerpyBot> *derp*

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22:44 *** Smooze is now known as Tirek

22:44 <Tirek> Greetings, I am here now.

22:46 * Princess-Luna half-heartedly blows a party horn

22:46 * Twilight`Sparkle presents a cake.

22:49 <Tirek> These items are progenitors of merriment.

22:49 <Tirek> Fun is strictly prohibited.

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22:50 <Tirek> Besides, my birthday was last month.

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22:50 * Twilight`Sparkle puts the party hat on Tirek.

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22:58 <Schism|TechSupport> Tirek: Have a burrito.

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23:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1652 - Go Away Derpy!  [ http://tinyurl.com/q77pjvu ]

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23:01 <Tirek> Nah.

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23:05 * Cepheid flops.

23:05 <Thelema5> Hello, Midwatch.  Welcome to a chat!

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23:07 <Twilight`Sparkle> hyay.

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23:09 <Nicktendonick> (News flash: Turns out, Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 is right now, free on Origin (That not-steam DRM service). If you got an account already, why not.)

23:09 <Cepheid> Indeed.

23:09 <Cepheid> You know what I find amazing?

23:10 <Cepheid> Bloodborne has been out for what, a year now?  Maybe longer?  I have yet to spoil any details of the game to myself.

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23:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> I may need to pop off for a bit, connection might be a tad unstable.

23:10 <Happy> i have a question aboot my litel pony

23:11 <Thelema5> Yes?

23:11 <Nicktendonick> Speaking of Bloodborne, turns out it's getting an expansion

23:12 <Happy> if you salughter a pony, and try to eat it. what would it taste like

23:12 <Cepheid> Yep.

23:12 <Cepheid> I watched the video last night Nicktendonick.

23:12 * Thelema5 blinks

23:12 <Cepheid> Getting an expansion.

23:12 <Fall> It would taste like pony. Next question?

23:12 <Cepheid> Thelema5:  Troll, don't feed it.

23:12 <Thelema5> Right

23:12 <Princess-Luna> We should probably nip this one in the bud

23:13 <Happy> are there any videos on netflix where i can see?

23:13 <Happy> equestria girls etc

23:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> Equestria Girls is on Netflix, yes.

23:14 <Happy> nice! thanks for answer

23:14 <Storm_RainbowDash> rainbow rocks is also on netflix

23:14 * Thelema5 wonders if David Lynch directs his own music videos

23:14 <Twilight`Sparkle> So is most all of the show itself.

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23:14 <Happy> it is on american netflix?

23:14 <DARK> hello =)

23:14 <Happy> hello Dark

23:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yes, it is on American Netflix. I can't speak for netflix in any other countries, however, so if you're not in America, I recommend you find out yourself.

23:15 <Cepheid> Also in other gaming news, Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen is getting a PC release.

23:15 <Happy> Im from Nigeria

23:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> Like I said.

23:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> Find out.

23:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> What's Dragon's Dogma?

23:16 <Happy> i will find out.

23:16 <Storm_RainbowDash> nice did they say when it will be released Cephied

23:16 * Thelema5 goes to do chores

23:16 <Cepheid> Twilight`Sparkle:  Open world game by Capcom.  Has SOME characteristics of Monster Hunter, I find, among other things.

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23:17 <Cepheid> Storm_RainbowDash: January, 2016.

23:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> Ah, cool.

23:17 <Storm_RainbowDash> nice

23:17 <Cepheid> Funny bit about it.

23:17 <Cepheid> The screenshots they released for the PC reveal?

23:17 <Cepheid> 4k screenshots. XD

23:17 <Cepheid> http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman/blog/2015/09/08/dragons-dogma-dark-arisen-coming-to-pc

23:18 <Storm_RainbowDash> awesome

23:18 <Cepheid> At least, they were when I last checked.  Can't get them now..

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23:18 <Cepheid> Ah that's why.

23:18 <Cepheid> There's two galleries.  Non-full-res, and full-res.

23:19 <User_1548> wait this is on eqd?

23:19 <Cepheid> http://images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/gregaman/dragons_dogma/highres_pc_screens/large/edeba5f96a5d296273fe9af46dead112.png?v=202200

23:19 <Princess-Luna> No

23:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> This is the IRC chat that is linked to from the EQB blog site using a web-based IRC client.

23:19 <Princess-Luna> this IS an ED Chat, but we discuss anything within reason

23:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> *EQD blog site

23:19 <User_1548> ok I did not know eqd had this

23:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> Technically it doesn't!

23:20 <User_1548> oh ok so this is embeded

23:20 <Twilight`Sparkle> The network and channel are operated and maintained by people who don't have anything to do with runny the blog site, and vice versa.

23:20 <Twilight`Sparkle> The name is shared, and the blog links here for people looking to chat with other bronies.

23:21 <User_1548> ok

23:21 <User_1548> so what's up

23:21 <Twilight`Sparkle> But only the client is an embed.

23:21 <Princess-Luna> The sky!

23:21 <Twilight`Sparkle> Pegasi.

23:21 <Cepheid> http://images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/gregaman/dragons_dogma/highres_pc_screens/large/16d00128c3d9da29633b1ea0645ff81d.png?v=202200 Hey look, it's Gilda!

23:22 <User_1548> http://jakewhyman.tumblr.com/post/96859398747/inkrose-is-love-inkrose-is-life

23:23 <User_1548> ok bye

23:23 <Twilight`Sparkle> Cya.

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23:25 <Cepheid> There a reason we're getting so many weird people lately?

23:25 <Twilight`Sparkle> Probably nothing noteworthy.

23:25 <Schism|TechSupport> The return of the poni?

23:26 <Twilight`Sparkle> Well, aside from that.

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23:28 * Schism|TechSupport boops Gladiolus with a blood sausage. Good food for thestrals!

23:28 * Gladiolus nibbles on it happily, goes 'eee' in thanks.

23:29 <Happy> thats what she said

23:30 <Twilight`Sparkle> I played a Ponyfinder game in which the DM decided that my bat-pony paladin was going to be the first of the Thestrals.

23:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> That was rather fun.

23:31 <Schism|TechSupport> Hmmmm, well, Luna /is/ a bit more lawful than Celestia.

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23:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> He was a dex-build paladin..

23:32 <Twilight`Sparkle> Used a reflavored Elven Curve Blade.

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23:34 <Twilight`Sparkle> Which is d10 exotic two-handed weapon which specifically works with the weapon finesse feat despite not being a light weapon.

23:35 <Twilight`Sparkle> (18-20/x2 crit range/damage)

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23:37 <Schism|TechSupport> Very shiny indeed.

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23:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> Hrm. Yes. Quite.

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23:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> Eeyup. I'll be back when this is ... done.

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23:55 <Schism|Nocturne> So, fried rice, onions, red bell peppers, salsa, cheddar cheese, sour cream, spinach, anything else I'm missing?

23:55 <Schism|Nocturne> (The fajita wraps, of course, we have.)

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23:57 <Schism|Nocturne> Also got some pretty tasty hot peppers, of course...

23:57 <Schism|Nocturne> Beans!  Refried or otherwise.  Right.

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