00:00 <Sunset-Shimmer> I dont envy the one who has to make it
00:00 <Sunset-Shimmer> XD
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00:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1726 - Death by GLAMOUR [ http://tinyurl.com/po98zuj ]
00:00 <PostNinja> the dark future fanfics, they will swarm over fimfiction in the coming weeks
00:01 <PostNinja> and glimmer x twilight ships, I bet a fic about those two will be up before the day is over
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00:01 <Sour_Sweet> And we didn't even have a leak this time, did we?
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00:03 <PostNinja> I do wonder what happened to Chrys in the Sombra future though
00:03 <User_2252> Looking forwards to more stuff similar to the "My Kingdom for a Horse" in the future about season 5, should be interesting...
00:03 <wobniaR> I'm looking forward to season 6 in TBA 2016
00:04 <Sour_Sweet> The current drawfriend has a few awesome related pictures
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00:04 <Muffin_Spectacles> I figure Josh Haber doesn't quite know how to balance. Friendship games had a hokey 2/3 start, and the last 1/3 was memorable. For this ep, the first 2/3 was interesting, and then it tripped up at the end.
00:05 <PostNinja> they are always rushed, and have to do the end real quick
00:05 <PostNinja> the friendship games had a complete re-write at the halfway, and they had to edit it completely to make it fit again
00:06 <Muffin_Spectacles> PostNinja: So, that could explain the one-dimensionality of the Crystal Prep students.
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00:06 <Muffin_Spectacles> Seriously, aside from Sugar Coat, I can't name any other students from that school.
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00:07 <PostNinja> oh certainly, it was going to center more to the rivarly and fleshing them out, and ponytwilight was going to be a lot more involved, but then someone *coughHasbrocough* wanted to make it more independent from the main show
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00:07 <User_2668> #EquestriaSpoilers
00:07 <Sunset-Shimmer> Nope, you can talk here
00:07 <Sunset-Shimmer> Spoiler rule is offski
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00:08 <Muffin_Spectacles> You mean...the bonds are broken?
00:08 <PostNinja> you can see them being rushed in the finale too. The first episode was much, much more detailed and had a way better pacing than the second part
00:09 <wobniaR> Fit ALL the things in
00:09 <Muffin_Spectacles> I feel for ReMark, they should have just shown 3 alternate futures, and then...focused on Starlight, instead of that 2-4 minutes of time-jumping madness.
00:09 <PostNinja> which had to skim and wrap up every plot thread in the last four minutes or so, and make glimmer turn heel so fast that trixie would get dizzy
00:10 <Muffin_Spectacles> I just realized...so the final bad fuure with nothing...are we too assume that there was some 'epic pony war' that annihilated everything?'
00:10 <PostNinja> or whatever will be the next big villain, Colttulhtu, the eater of worlds, or something
00:11 <Muffin_Spectacles> "Hey, he got his cutie mark, and he can perfectly shelve books - send that colt to Canterlot!"
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00:11 * Muffin_Spectacles is seriously considering doing a 'How it shouldhave ended' for the first Equestria Girls movie...
00:12 <PostNinja> not sure how well glimmer will work. Sunset is so well liked because her character has been built over like, three movies. Glimmer got maybe six minutes
00:13 <Schism> Watching now, and... CYBERPONIES.
00:13 <Sunset-Shimmer> xD
00:14 <Muffin_Spectacles> Thought: what if at the end, Starlight left, but left behind a note, as if to say, 'sorry. I'm going off, but am going to take your advice...I don't knw what I'll find, but I'm willing to try." I think that would have worked better.
00:14 <wobniaR> Too bad she's now a main character
00:15 <wobniaR> So sayeth hasbro
00:15 <Verandure> Is she?
00:15 <Muffin_Spectacles> wobniaR: I don't know...she could be just like Discord...a supporting player.
00:15 <Sunset-Shimmer> She's a student of twi now
00:15 <Sunset-Shimmer> So it means something either way
00:15 <Verandure> I thought she was going back to the equality village from the montage at the end
00:15 <wobniaR> She'll be around
00:15 <Schism> I also like that the sheep in that 'everypony in Equestria' bit are ... squarish. Like Minecraft sheep.
00:15 <wobniaR> Shave the sheep for the war effort
00:15 <Schism> Yes. bit tjey
00:15 <wobniaR> Produce apple gruel for the war effort
00:15 <Schism> Bleh.
00:16 <Schism> But they're /blocky sheep./
00:16 <PostNinja> and yikes, glimmer is powerful enough to overpower twilight's magic, and can edit time travel spells of an archmage like it was written with notepad, why wasn't she sent to the unicorn magic school? Could had met her friend again, and geeked over books with Twilight and Moondancer
00:16 <Verandure> Why wasn't AJ with the Oranges in any future?
00:16 <Schism> That's what gives me the rampant hees.
00:16 <Muffin_Spectacles> wobniaR: I didn't see Applebloom in that future...makes me wonder if she never was born.
00:16 <wobniaR> None of the CMC were shown
00:16 <wobniaR> They probably never met, nor were relevant
00:17 <wobniaR> She didn't edit the spell either, she just casted starswirl's spell on the scroll itself, which contained the power to time travel already
00:17 <Muffin_Spectacles> One thing crossed my mind, would be if Twilight would have had a splitsecond to think: "Shining Armor and CAdance' never met...didn't get married...my little niece or nephew...will never exist!"
00:17 <wobniaR> Also amplified the spell with the power of the map in the castle
00:17 <PostNinja> but she made it so whenever twilight tried to use the spell, she would be there too, for all eternity
00:17 <Verandure> She did edit the spell
00:18 <Verandure> Starswirl's spell could only go back a week.
00:18 <PostNinja> she bragged about for like, minute and a half
00:18 <wobniaR> Minor edit, she did say starswirl did most of the work
00:18 <Muffin_Spectacles> I like o imagine StarSwirl just retreated to the human dimension...he's a crazy old hermit on the outskirts of that city.
00:18 * Cepheid flops after awakening and getting some Timmies.
00:19 <Muffin_Spectacles> Cepheid: "TimmEH!"
00:19 <PostNinja> also, since applejack was so damn silent and looked at the ground when twilight said that they could prevent the war from happening, one could make educated guesses about why there are so few apples around
00:19 <Cepheid> God Dang that game is hard to find.
00:19 <Muffin_Spectacles> PostNinja: There was corn being grown on the farm...so most likely, the Apples had to diversify...which problably pushed Granny Smith over the edge...and to a heart attack.
00:20 <Cepheid> Schism: So I managed to create a few Holy Gift stones. But gods, why is the Claret Hollows so incredibly hard? It surpasses even the final dungeon of Etrian Odyssey 4.
00:21 <Schism> They're refining their method...!
00:22 <PostNinja> Applejack had no little sister at the farm, parents still absent, unrevealed mental issues about the war...
00:22 <Schism> "Well, don't" - ... yup...
00:22 <Cepheid> I also tried to fight Alraune.
00:22 <Cepheid> That... went less than spectacularly.
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00:22 <Cepheid> See: Getting hit by every status ailment in the book in one attack.
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00:23 <Schism> it, that, it.
00:24 <Schism> Okay, there are a LOT of nods to fanfictions here, I suspect.
00:24 <Sunset-Shimmer> lol
00:24 <Schism> Spike's "Well, THAT didn't work" reminds me of the one where Twilight gets stuck in a time loop.
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00:25 <Sunset-Shimmer> Well technically she was stuck in a time loop here too. :P
00:25 * Sunset-Shimmer is shot
00:25 <Muffin_Spectacles> I just realized: Haber seems to be the guy to go to for time/mind-altering storylines (wrote Bloom and Gloom too)
00:25 <Cepheid> I wonder if the Unihorn works at removing all status ailments on the party..
00:26 <Tirek> I had a dream about a 4-day weekend.
00:26 <Tirek> So here I am having a 4-day weekend.
00:26 <Tirek> And it's really wrong, and it's really long.
00:26 <Cepheid> Let's not speak of my dreams. The latter one was... odd.
00:26 <Tirek> But, hell, I could use a bit of a vacation.
00:27 <Muffin_Spectacles> Cepheid: I don't know if I can get behind a plot that big...
00:27 <wobniaR> It's hard to enjoy a vacation when you've gone so long without a vacation
00:27 * Muffin_Spectacles made the big leap. and got a next-gen console on Black Friday - now entered the realms of PS4.
00:28 <Tirek> Soon as I entered the facility today, the woman who handles the roster and attendance was scanning badges for voluntary time-off (Which is like unpayed time off, except you don't lose the time you have).
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00:28 <Tirek> So, I took it, because I didn't feel up to it tonight.
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00:29 <Cepheid> I remember the second dream more thoroughly, to an incredible degree at that. It involved a strange 3-4 foot radius, 1km tall crystaline spire appearing nearby. At regular intervals, there were ledges a person could stand on. Numerous people tried to climb it, and failed.
00:30 <Cepheid> I don't know why climbing it was so important, but people kept trying. So I gave it a shot, using a weird technique involving a grappling hook. I eventually reached the top, which plateaued out into a small area that only one person could fit on. After that... I don't recall anything.
00:30 * Muffin_Spectacles can't decide if 'Tanks for the Memories' shoud be #3 or #4 on the top 5 for this season...it has some heavy stuff, but it also has RD's nagging and egotistical demeanor all over it)
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00:30 <Snapai> Gladiolus, spoilers abound, run!
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00:31 <Snapai> (He said he wasn't gonna get a chance to see it until tomorrow or something)
00:32 <Schism> Oh wow, those 3D timberwolves.
00:33 <Cepheid> Right, THE UNIHORN! IT DOES NOTHING!
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00:35 <Cepheid> Schism: The most annoying thing about any information on items and Grimoire Stones is that none of them offer legitimate strategies.
00:35 <Cepheid> Since there's apparently an item duplication bug in the game.
00:38 <Schism> I really liked that Discord-verse...
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00:38 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Soooo booorreeed
00:38 <KooK> Play me in CounterStrike then
00:39 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Personality forge won't work with this phone
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00:39 <KooK> eh?
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00:39 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> KooK we don't like steam
00:39 <KooK> So you don't like computer games
00:39 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> No i just dont like steam
00:40 <Sunset-Shimmer> ...Steam really is not terrible
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00:41 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Well it left 21gb of unplayable games on our system and the one that did had 7 hour updates almo#t every day
00:41 <Sunset-Shimmer> Thats not really typical
00:41 <Finwe> o3o
00:42 <Sunset-Shimmer> That sounds more like an issue you should take uo with them
00:42 <Finwe> Messrs Sunset-Shimmer, SkippeZ_ShadoW and KooK.
00:42 * Finwe doffs his hat.
00:42 * MarsToSirius salutes Finwe.
00:42 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Oh and we got rid of it right before they put into refunds
00:42 <Finwe> Lt MarsToSirius.
00:42 <Finwe> _o7
00:42 <Sunset-Shimmer> That doesn't mater though.
00:42 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> So... We didn't get our money back from the games
00:42 <Finwe> a.k.a. Lt Sausage.
00:42 <Finwe> o3o
00:43 * MarsToSirius faceplants.
00:43 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> They cost like 20 pounds each
00:43 <Sunset-Shimmer> Have you actually tried Steams help service?
00:43 <Sunset-Shimmer> or have you just simmered?
00:44 <Finwe> !facehoof
00:44 * DerpyBot puts her hoof in Finwe's face
00:44 <DerpyBot> Now lick it.
00:44 * Finwe licks it.
00:44 <Finwe> "It."
00:44 <Cepheid> The updating issue is less steam and more your connection. The daily updates needs to be taken up with the developer of the game.
00:44 <Sunset-Shimmer> yep
00:44 <Cepheid> As for the 21GB of unplayable games, you can take that up with Steam support.
00:44 <Sunset-Shimmer> That doesnt make Steam bad, it's simply a case that gaming is a lot less plug-and-play as a whole
00:46 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 4DE Applejack Plushies Now Available for Pre-order! [ http://tinyurl.com/nu8ssxg ]
00:46 <Sour_Sweet> Also steam has refunds now, you can suspend updates for a game ....
00:46 <Sour_Sweet> There're plenty of options
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00:46 <Cepheid> Yeah, he already stated that the install of the game he wants a refund for came before the refunds began.
00:47 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Ok now a relevant situation and not a one from 2012
00:47 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> My phone
00:47 <FN> What you english people call mashed apples?
00:47 <FN> I doubt it is apple puree or jam
00:48 <FN> Because the latter is french and the former is cooked with sugar
00:48 <Cepheid> We call that Apple Sauce.
00:48 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> ... Mashed apples? Like what is it meant to be
00:48 <Cepheid> Here in Canada, anyways.
00:48 <Verandure> Apple sauce?
00:48 <FN> Yeah that fits
00:49 <Muffin_Spectacles> Reminds me of how people said 'Jellybeans' were similar to 'Jelly babies' from Europe...when they aren't.
00:49 <FN> I discovered that dried pineapple rings dipped in apple sauce are even better than sugar sweets
00:49 * Finwe noms on Sunset-Shimmer
00:49 <KooK> Finnish
00:49 * Sunset-Shimmer boops
00:50 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Um so my phone (lg g3s) that I'm using to chat right now, when you turn it off and turn it on you have to take the battery out and turn it on again
00:50 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> It does a hardware update that doesnt work
00:50 <Cepheid> Speak with your carrier.
00:50 <Cepheid> They can replace the phone.
00:51 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> It tries anyway... We came back after three hours to find 0%
00:51 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> So it works fine it just does thay
00:51 <Cepheid> That's not working fine.
00:51 <Cepheid> That's a damaged or broken phone.
00:51 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> And sometimes the led has a mind of its own
00:51 <Cepheid> Take it in and get it replaced.
00:51 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Why? How is it broken?
00:51 <FN> SkippeZ_ShadoW, bring it into any shop that sells phones: the workers should know the code for disabling autoupdate
00:52 <Cepheid> You shouldn't have to remove the battery randomly to turn it back on again.
00:52 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> It's not random
00:52 <Schism> Well, that was wonderful. And it cements the whole idea that S5 is about cutie marks.
00:52 <Cepheid> It still sounds like a hardware problem if you have to remove the battery.
00:53 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Its when you turn it on every time it does this screen where it says don't remove USB even if there isn't one there
00:53 <Cepheid> ...
00:53 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> So... Ech
00:53 <Cepheid> For gods sake, take it in.
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00:53 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> I guess it is damamged
00:53 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> I canf
00:53 <Cepheid> It's likely covered by your contract warranty.
00:53 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Can't right now
00:54 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> I've had it less than 6 months I doubt my warranty is shorter than thay
00:54 <Cepheid> And when you bring it in, don't just tell them "Oh it doesn't work." Explain what it is doing in clear detail.
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00:55 * Finwe hats on Cepheid.
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00:56 <Cepheid> There. Sunset now knows all her basic skills. So, what should I take next..?
00:56 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Oh yeah who said about the jelly beans and jelly babies)?
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00:56 <Cepheid> ... Probably HP Up.
00:56 <Finwe> Cepheid: Magic!
00:56 <Muffin_Spectacles> SkippeZ_ShadoW: That would be me.
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00:56 <Finwe> Who needs HP when they can do magicks?
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00:57 <Cepheid> Magic is fine, but right now, the party needs to survive insanely strong hits.
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00:57 <Cepheid> Like, 600+ damage.
00:57 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Ugh
00:57 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/Jellybabies.jpg is jelly babies Muffin_Spectacles
00:57 <Finwe> Oh, well, then you take hit points.
00:57 <Finwe> Mr SkippeZ_ShadoW.
00:57 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> http://fabricalo.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/jelly_beans-2880x1620.jpg jelly beans
00:57 * Finwe doffs himself.
00:57 <Cepheid> I got one person dedicated on magic anyawys.
00:58 <Cepheid> Well, two people if you include the healer.
00:58 <Finwe> Healing is magic as well.
00:58 <Cepheid> And then there's Faraday, who no longer resides in this channel unfortunately, who performs songs.
00:58 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Finwe how do you doff yourself
00:58 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Oh yeah just now i had to restart my phone coz the input froze
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00:58 <Finwe> I was in hatted form on Cepheid's head.
00:58 <Finwe> o3o
00:59 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> I wonder if I can get an upgrade from my warranty
00:59 <Finwe> So I just briefly lift myself in a greeting.
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00:59 <Cepheid> Generally no. Just a replacement phone. I can guarantee there's something wrong with yours though, based on what you said. What model is it?
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01:00 <FN> Jelly bears http://www.keepitsweet.co.uk/images/Jelly-Bears-2HAR-JEL-JTB.jpg
01:00 * Finwe noms on ThatAnonPony.
01:00 <Cepheid> We call those Gummi Bears.
01:00 <ThatAnonPony> o3o
01:00 <Finwe> o3o
01:00 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> No gumming bears are different
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01:01 <FN> Gummies can also be jelly o3o
01:01 <Cepheid> In Canada, those are gummi bears.
01:01 <Finwe> o3o
01:01 <fyrepony> 20mins to finish downloading episode
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01:01 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/51718df9ecad044801000007/amazon-reviews-of-haribos-sugarless-gummy-bears-are-terrifying.jpg
01:01 <Cepheid> What model of phone are you using, SkippeZ_ShadoW?
01:01 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Lg g3s
01:02 <FN> Vegan food is a nice thing
01:02 <Cepheid> Admittedly, I like properly prepared tofu.
01:03 <FN> I discovered recently that you can eat meat balls with vegan meat balls, and it's like you eat meat with slightly different meat!!!
01:03 * fyrepony drops FN some good apple meal
01:03 <KooK> Razzle Dazzle
01:03 <fyrepony> are you fruit bat or vampire bat FN?
01:04 <FN> FruitNibbler nick doesn't tell you?
01:04 <Cepheid> ....
01:04 <Cepheid> Okay, so the Troubadour has a skill..
01:04 <Cepheid> It's called "Frightful Yawl." It reduces the encounter rate.
01:04 <Cepheid> For some reason, I envision a chibi dancer going through the dungeon going "Rar! Rawr! Raaar!" the entire time it's in effect.
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01:05 <DARK> re =)
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01:06 <Muffin_Spectacles> ....ok...rented and played a bit of FAllout 4 last night...and suddenly...all that Fallout:Equestria stuff...is starting to make a little sense.
01:06 <Sunset-Shimmer> lol
01:06 <fyrepony> fallout:equestria music
01:06 <fyrepony> best kind of music
01:07 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxWXaHG5jI This song... It starts off all nice, but then it jumps straight into defining the feel of the Claret Hollows.
01:07 <fyrepony> also there is texture pony packs for fallout 4
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01:07 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
01:07 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Etrian Odyssey Untold: TMG - Labyrinth VI - Claret Cavern
01:07 * Muffin_Spectacles didn't get FAllout 4, but is focusing on Lego Dimensions, and STar Wars Battlefront first...maybe will do Transformers: Devastation for my Birthday.
01:08 <Cepheid> I wish I could stream this game..
01:08 <fyrepony> i just got that assassin's creed syndicate
01:09 <fyrepony> 25euros
01:09 <fyrepony> sadly downloading over 40gb of files on my internet is....hard
01:09 <Cepheid> I wonder how it runs on PCs.
01:09 <Cepheid> Is it like the botched mess Unity was?
01:09 <fyrepony> people say its running good
01:10 <Cepheid> Perhaps Ubisoft is learning their lesson somewhat.
01:10 <fyrepony> and game is aparently step foward from earlier series
01:10 <fyrepony> think gta like step, its totally open world
01:10 <Cepheid> Oooh, now THAT is a grimoire stone worth keeping.
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01:10 <Cepheid> My healer generated a stone with Revive level 5. I can slap this on someone and they'll gain access to that skill.
01:11 <fyrepony> and you can do side missions even during main mission
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01:12 <Cepheid> SON OF A- I had a rare monster there and it ran off.
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01:14 <Cepheid> Hmm.. TP Up or Party Cure for the protector..?
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01:16 <Cepheid> Sunset's level 50, at last.
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01:19 <Cepheid> Schism: Oh yeah, floor B28F. Fun place, that.
01:20 <Cepheid> Entire floor is covered in damage panels, and has a roaming FOE that can hit for 600+ damage to the entire party.
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01:20 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_PVPyn6n8
01:20 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
01:20 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about [IOSYS] F O E! (English subtitles)
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01:28 <ProjectCarthage> That was freaking amazing! great way to end the season!
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01:30 <Sunset-Shimmer> And yet I see such rage over it. xD
01:30 <Sunset-Shimmer> Not the whole fandom, but select folks just absolutely loathing Starlight
01:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: GIANT Story Updates - November 28th [ http://tinyurl.com/ht47jbe ]
01:31 <Tirek> Everybody Hates Starlight would be a great sitcom.
01:31 <ProjectCarthage> Well, some people are tired of the whole "Reformation" thing.
01:32 <Tirek> But that's what made the show so grand.
01:32 <Tirek> Turning enemies into friends.
01:32 <Tirek> Dragon Ball did it, and everyone loves that show!
01:32 <ProjectCarthage> "Yeah, but it's been done so many times over, she didn't deserve it" someone says.
01:32 <Sunset-Shimmer> Oh this is more than that. XD
01:33 <Sunset-Shimmer> The fact that, in a few select peoples eyes, she wasn't punished but rewarded for her actions
01:33 <Tirek> Retort with "I'll keep that in mind if you ever make a mistake."
01:33 <Tirek> Ah, now that's a thing worth being upset about.
01:33 <ProjectCarthage> I personally don't mind, and the way they did it where Twilight's going to be taking her under her wing. (Pfffft)
01:33 <ProjectCarthage> It was done in a unique way.
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01:35 <ProjectCarthage> And the people who wanted to see Sombra and Chryssi return finally got what they wanted!
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01:36 <ProjectCarthage> Albiet, Sombra still had no lines xD
01:36 <ProjectCarthage> Atleast he got to be cool for, like, 5 minutes.
01:39 <ProjectCarthage> Lots of fanfics will be born now, thanks to the alternate timelines. I'm very intrigued by the Crystal War one to be honest.
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01:41 <Sunset-Shimmer> I wonder who'll get the 30+ chapter of THAT one out first
01:41 <Cepheid> Cats, why are you doing this?
01:42 <KooK> Because cats
01:42 <Sunset-Shimmer> ^
01:42 <Nuclear> Hi, Cepheid, KooK, everyone else.
01:42 <KooK> soup
01:42 <Nuclear> Oh, nothing much. I just got from work.
01:42 <ProjectCarthage> There's just one thing I wish we could have seen in this episode, it was alluded to with what NMM did, but unfortunately, wasn't here.
01:43 <Nuclear> How's you?
01:43 <ProjectCarthage> I still want to see Nightmare-Celestia.
01:44 <Sunset-Shimmer> That was a card exclusive, betcha anything
01:44 <Sunset-Shimmer> And Celestia was banished to the sun before, too - this wasn't about a nightmare celestia, it was about NMM wanting her gone
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01:45 <KooK> TIRED, just finished installing a radon system in my house
01:45 <ProjectCarthage> I mean, heck, they always could have ended up in an entirely non-series timeline, like when Nightmare Sol becomes a thing, I just want to see it.
01:45 <Cepheid> Dang Sunset, hurry up and reach level 60...
01:45 <Cepheid> I want to get down to floor B30F.
01:45 <Sunset-Shimmer> I'm TRYIIIING, but you suck at levelling me up! ;.;
01:45 * Sunset-Shimmer hoofstampies
01:46 <Cepheid> I'm sorry that the best I can manage right now are enemies that won't horribly mutilate us in a single turn.
01:47 * Cepheid goes down a floor anyways. Maybe there will be easier-to-kill enemies that don't inflict every status ailment under the Celestia-danged sun.
01:48 <ProjectCarthage> I guess it would make more sense for Tia to be banished to the sun to become Nightmare Sol/Solar Flare/Whatever, actually.
01:49 <Cepheid> OOH! New items!
01:49 <Sunset-Shimmer> Nah, NMM just wanted her gone. :P
01:49 <fyrepony> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sa8FJ_5n3U
01:49 <fyrepony> geet inspired
01:49 <ProjectCarthage> ...And now the year-long hiatus starts :/
01:50 <Cepheid> And they result in items that are completely useless.
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01:51 <PinkieShy> When did they add discord the mlp intro?
01:51 <PinkieShy> http://prntscr.com/985jas <- at that part he is there.
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01:52 <Sunset-Shimmer> They added him in season 4
01:53 <ProjectCarthage> I wonder if S6 will actually change the intro again.
01:54 <Sunset-Shimmer> Probably
01:54 <Sunset-Shimmer> if Starlights gettin' in on actions
01:56 <PinkieShy> sunset-shimmer what if they make the mane 6 not the mane 6 no more but its the mane 7.. (twilight, apple jack, rarity, pinkie pie, rainbow dash, fluttershy, and starlight glimmer)
01:56 <Sunset-Shimmer> I'll tell you this - I've seen people deciding to walk out on the show if they see her in it season 6. XD
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01:56 <Sunset-Shimmer> People being silly.
01:56 <ProjectCarthage> -_-
01:56 <Cepheid> Good news: We're barely good enough now to explore B27F. Bad news: It's a nightmare.
01:57 <ProjectCarthage> Drama and nonsense, same as usual.
01:58 <ProjectCarthage> How does that make sense anyway? You enjoy this show as much as you do, then this one thing happens and you're like "Nope, I ain't having that, forget this junk I'm out."
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01:59 <Sunset-Shimmer> Folks are mad she didn't get punished
01:59 <ProjectCarthage> Why? I don't understand.
01:59 <FN> Weird
01:59 <Sunset-Shimmer> <Lapis-Lazuli> Discord got turned to stone, Chrysalis gets blasted-off-again and Tirek is imprisoned in HELL, and this chick who enables ALL of them gets... nothing.<Lapis-Lazuli> Not even a stern talking to, really.
01:59 <Cepheid> ... @.@; Grimoire Stone was made, it's got Holy Gift 8.
02:00 <Cepheid> It's a good thing I left the dungeon upon making that sucker.
02:00 <FN> It is not that cold in here, but I get excessive chills
02:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Toy Review: 4th Dimension (4DE) Rarity Plushie [ http://tinyurl.com/qa78lwt ]
02:00 <ProjectCarthage> I guess some people just like to get mad over stupid stuff.
02:01 <Sunset-Shimmer> Yep
02:01 <ProjectCarthage> Nothing could make me leave this show, I've had too much fun to give up on it now ^^
02:01 <Sunset-Shimmer> For some people, I fear fun is not enough
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02:03 <ProjectCarthage> Honestly, what happened to wathcing stuff for fun and entertainment? We don't need the complaints and petitions and Tumblra drama and stuff in FiM, or any show's fandom. I don't get it.
02:04 <MarsToSirius> There are people that take this show way too seriously
02:04 <ProjectCarthage> ^ That can be said about a lot of the more recent popular cartoons.
02:04 <MarsToSirius> And in regards to the people who're wondering why Starlight got redeemed... they really don't get what happened, do they?
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02:04 <ProjectCarthage> She saw the consequences of her own actions, right?
02:04 <MarsToSirius> Context doesn't exist with these people
02:04 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.
02:04 <MarsToSirius> Yes, but no.
02:05 <MarsToSirius> She still wasn't convinced that it was because of her actions that the future of Equestria would've gone straight to hell
02:05 <MarsToSirius> It took her until the end of the episode to realize that her actions really did have consequences, that it got so many ponies into such a mess and she was about to commit the ultimate atrocity by... well, stopping the butterfly from flapping her wings
02:06 <Sunset-Shimmer> I liked the subtlety in the fact she was sat on Fluttershys throne at the start.
02:06 <ProjectCarthage> People just don't understand how a good story works.
02:06 <Sunset-Shimmer> They're a fanfic writer. :P
02:06 <Sunset-Shimmer> So probably not, lol
02:06 <Sunset-Shimmer> <j/k>
02:07 <MarsToSirius> Officer, we have a code 618
02:07 <MarsToSirius> Shots were fired at the scene
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02:08 <Sunset-Shimmer> well its the fimfic spoiler channel...so yeah, lol
02:08 <Sunset-Shimmer> mixed bag of proverbial nuts
02:08 <MarsToSirius> ... which now that I think about it
02:09 <MarsToSirius> Wow, somehow this finale got even better
02:09 <MarsToSirius> The theme for Twilight this season has been the consequences of her actions
02:09 <Sunset-Shimmer> x3
02:09 <Sunset-Shimmer> Yep
02:09 <MarsToSirius> o3o
02:09 <MarsToSirius> I dunno if it was COMPLETELY intentional, but it's a very nice coincidence otherwise
02:09 <MarsToSirius> And extremely clever if it was
02:09 * Cepheid traverses some of B27F. Misses a pit trap, falls. AGAIN.
02:09 <ProjectCarthage> I just really hope that the hiatus isn't going to actually be a year long, that's going to suck.
02:10 <MarsToSirius> It most likely won't be, but it's going to be quite a wait
02:10 <ProjectCarthage> If that is the case, S6 might be the last season. As much as I hate to bring up the whole "2017 movie might be the End of G4 thing"
02:11 <wobniaR> The end is neigh
02:11 <Sunset-Shimmer> Pffft, nah
02:11 <Tirek> G5 - CMC all grown up
02:11 <Tirek> That's basically what I want.
02:11 <MarsToSirius> You know?
02:11 <MarsToSirius> I actually kind of want that now
02:11 <Thelema5> That's what I've expected, too
02:11 <MarsToSirius> G5 or not... passing the torch onto the CMCs full time doesn't really sound like a bad idea at this point
02:12 <Muffin_Spectacles> Tirek: I see that as being like the 86 Transformers movie- 95% of the cast killed off, and a new line of 'toys' all set up.
02:12 <MarsToSirius> We were all kind of meh about it when theyw anted to do it as a preschool special sorta dealio like four years ago, but I think they've become good enough characters onto themselves
02:12 <Thelema5> My Little Pony: Cutie Mark Coucilors
02:12 <ProjectCarthage> Yeah, they could make a nice adventure series, what with their newfound "Finding other ponies' marks" thing.
02:12 <MarsToSirius> MY LITTLE PONY: Cutie Mark Crusaders
02:12 <wobniaR> Yaayyyyyy
02:12 <MarsToSirius> Coming Soon(T)(R)(C)(TM)(PG)
02:12 <Muffin_Spectacles> Thelema5: Applebloom coming home to some alcoholic applecider going, 'Forever...what were we thinking!?"
02:13 <Tirek> Featuring Uncle Discord. Same as usual.
02:13 <Thelema5> :P
02:13 <Thelema5> The big conclusion of season 1: The CMC help Princess Skyla come to terms with her newfound special abilities
02:14 * Muffin_Spectacles waits for someone to explode over that Skyla stuff.
02:14 <Sunset-Shimmer> Already happened long ago
02:14 <Tirek> Yep
02:14 <Tirek> Doesn't mean there won't be an after-shock.
02:14 <MarsToSirius> We're just waiting on whether or not Skyla is born an alicorn.
02:14 <Sunset-Shimmer> I mean it'll happen again when the show makes it canon, but still
02:14 <Muffin_Spectacles> But everyone keeps going crazy about that name...me? I have no clue why.
02:14 <ProjectCarthage> ...Implying the ShiningCadance foal is going to adapt Skyla.
02:14 <Sunset-Shimmer> Skyla was a toy marketed in 2012
02:14 <ProjectCarthage> It could be something totally different.
02:14 <Tirek> Yep.
02:14 <Sunset-Shimmer> Its not the name, its the fact it existed
02:15 <MarsToSirius> Then we need her to be tutored by alicorn pony Sunset Shimmer, which will also require the attention of another of the Mane 6, so we need someone to fill that slot... oh, look at that, Starlight Glimmer is right there!
02:15 <Tirek> Same as usual.
02:15 <MarsToSirius> It's simple. We kill the fandom.
02:15 <Muffin_Spectacles> Wait for Sunset to get super jealous...I thought I was your friend, Twilight...guess I'll have to use my Equstria-destroying magic instead!
02:16 <Sunset-Shimmer> Oh wait, franchise divisions...so sad, too bad
02:16 <Sunset-Shimmer> sorry brah
02:16 <Thelema5> It's just a convienient reference point
02:16 <MarsToSirius> I used to wonder what friendship could be - until you almost tore a scroll at me
02:16 <MarsToSirius> Franchise divisions? Starlight Glimmer is going to be part of the NFC North?
02:16 <Muffin_Spectacles> MarsToSirius: If it's so easy to kill the fandom, why haven't you done it yet?
02:16 <Sunset-Shimmer> Talking to muffin. XD
02:16 <Sunset-Shimmer> EQG exists outside FIM, sunsets stayin' put...at least for the time being.
02:17 <Muffin_Spectacles> Sunset-Shimmer: Well, so many online want it to happen...but then again, they somehow seem to think Trixie is more than a one-trick pony, and keep thinking she has character.
02:17 <Sunset-Shimmer> We don't run the show
02:17 <MarsToSirius> Don't tell that to Sethisto
02:17 * wobniaR tears MarsToSirius' headcanons up
02:17 * MarsToSirius rifles through the pieces. "LyraBoooooon!"
02:18 <Sunset-Shimmer> Trixie DOES have character though. XD
02:18 <Muffin_Spectacles> Sunset-Shimmer: Really?...online, so many seem to think they hold sway over Hasbro.
02:18 <Sunset-Shimmer> Yup
02:18 <Muffin_Spectacles> Sunset-Shimmer: Yeah, in the same way Boba Fett 'had' character in his minor first appearances.
02:18 <MarsToSirius> No, see, they OK'd Episode 100 and wanted it to happen, thus they don't care about the core audience anymore and are making The Brony Show
02:18 <MarsToSirius> totally
02:18 <wobniaR> God that would be an awful show
02:19 <Sunset-Shimmer> I disagree...I feel trixie has value.
02:19 <wobniaR> I'd only watch it for the memes
02:19 <Sunset-Shimmer> at least as a reccurring character from time to time.
02:19 <Muffin_Spectacles> I see Trixie as being like Boba Fett - they were created for a specific purpose, and fulfilled it, end of story...but suddenly, hundreds go, 'no way! She was super-awesome, and deserves more!'
02:19 <Sunset-Shimmer> Ehhhh...
02:19 <wobniaR> Cause the rest would be self-insert shipfics with large amounts of unnecessary violence and romance
02:20 <wobniaR> Kinda like the rest of popular entertainment
02:20 <Muffin_Spectacles> "Well look Twilight, a new pony in town. We have never met him/her before, but something tells me, they are super-special."
02:21 <Muffin_Spectacles> "Yes, Applejack...and for some reason, I be-lieve they can help us, with our new problem...and maybe, even be a new member, of our special group!"
02:21 <Muffin_Spectacles> "But Twilight...our group is very special...how can we allow a new pony, to be-come a-part of it?"
02:21 <Cepheid> How I mine for math? *Mined a Calculus in the Claret Hollows* o.O;
02:22 <Muffin_Spectacles> "My magic, feels like it is very given, that he/she is super-special...and therefore, it must be so!"
02:22 <Muffin_Spectacles> (me, writing super-bad like fanfic)
02:23 <wobniaR> Rule #15 of fanfiction: No matter how bad you think your fanfic is, there's guaranteed to be worse out there
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02:29 <Cepheid> So B27F has FOEs on it, but because the floor is dark, the FOEs can't see me. If I light up a torch nearby though, they can see me and will pursue.
02:29 <PinkieShy> I wonder if there is going to be a Princess Starlight glimmer.. o.o
02:29 <Thelema5> Very doubtful.
02:30 <wobniaR> Depends who has to write the episode
02:30 <wobniaR> And what Hasbro says
02:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Kansas City Welcomes Starlight Glimmer and Director Extraordinaire [ http://tinyurl.com/hm4n9z8 ]
02:31 <Sunset-Shimmer> MA Larson will take it, betcha. :P
02:31 <Muffin_Spectacles> Ok Whinny City, you're gonna have to step up big time. Kansas City and even Milwaukee are beating your flank for big-guests.
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02:35 <Cepheid> Much as I'd prefer to have those torches active to see a bit better... *Keeps the torches unlit so he can locate the FOEs.*
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02:38 <Cepheid> I'm glad this game doesn't go "Hardcore mode only." otherwise this stratum would be impossible.
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02:40 <Cepheid> Case in point, team wipe.
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02:44 <Cepheid> ...
02:44 <Cepheid> And another wipe, because apparently enemies with instant death regular attacks are okay.
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03:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Applejack Sneaks into Littlest Pet Shop Episode [ http://tinyurl.com/q28tvhk ]
03:02 <Cepheid> Whelp, most of the floor is almost mapped out.
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03:09 <MarsToSirius> I'm so sorry
03:11 <CocoPommel> Where? How?
03:12 <CocoPommel> I've seen most of it
03:12 <CocoPommel> Not in its entirety though, I don't believe
03:12 <SgtPinkie> 'Tis okay, MarsToSirius. I have Rifftrax
03:15 <CocoPommel> That's what I've seen of it, a highlight reel of with rifftrax
03:16 <Sunset-Shimmer> thats all you need
03:17 <CocoPommel> *best of rifftrax moments
03:17 <CocoPommel> Sounds about right
03:17 <Cepheid> FINALLY. I mapped out the floor.
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03:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Overmare Studios Releasing Series of Fallout Equestria Game Podcasts [ http://tinyurl.com/hw45bze ]
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03:37 <fyrepony> maybe i should just never watch the final episode until 2016 end, that way ponies can continue forever rigth?
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03:39 <MDP> Hello everypony
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03:40 <Sunset-Shimmer> It's...not over though. :P
03:40 <MDP> ?
03:45 * Noodles rolls around sleepily - soooo much good food
03:46 <Noodles> Did I mention this meal has been lasting me three days
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03:46 <wobniaR> It's over, it's all over
03:47 <Noodles> Mmm I think two more days... most epic thanksgiving ever
03:47 <Noodles> One minimum
03:47 <Noodles> No, definitely two
03:48 <MDP> Oh thanks giving?
03:48 * aqualycool22 His favorite food IS pasta...
03:48 * aqualycool22 Attempts to eat Noodles.
03:48 <Noodles> > .>
03:48 * aqualycool22 Rolls for Combat Damage.
03:48 <Twilight_Shimmer> Pizza = Food of the gods
03:48 <Twilight_Shimmer> as does many other foods
03:48 * Noodles is too floppy to resist
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03:49 <Noodles> Oh Heya Twilight didn't see you
03:49 <Noodles> Blinded by deliciousness
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04:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Music of the Day #592 [ http://tinyurl.com/n99euc4 ]
04:06 <AcerP> hi MDP
04:09 <Verandure> Why did Sethisto think Trixie would be in one of the alternate futures? Seems a bit weird.
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04:10 <MDP> No clue. Nit much if a villian
04:10 <Verandure> Wouldn't have ever been a villain in a future where Twilight doesn't go to Ponyville.
04:11 <Verandure> I guess because Flim and Flam got an apocalyptic future, he assumed Trixie could, as well?
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04:16 <Cepheid> It's Sethisto. He fawns over Trixie.
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04:16 <Cepheid> Hum. I need some anti-instant-death gear.
04:17 <Cepheid> Hmm. Shiny Seeds come from Stratum 5 mining spots.
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04:20 <MarsToSirius> She WAS in one of the futures - the Chrysalis one, to be precise
04:27 <MarsToSirius> https://twitter.com/scopeguardpony/status/670695883261001728/photo/1
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04:34 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Mars...
04:34 <MarsToSirius> ...to...
04:34 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> When will the Hiatus end...
04:34 <MarsToSirius> When I say it does.
04:35 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Aw.
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04:44 <TuxRug> Well, I just finished playing Arkham City. And playing Undertale before it has got me looking for options in Arkham City that probably aren't there :P
04:44 <Gigabit> Laggy lag
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04:57 <Roseluck> I didn't wanna feel left out.
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05:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #546 [ http://tinyurl.com/oyzlyfl ]
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05:01 <wobniaR> I can do pony names too
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05:02 <Roseluck> Actually, hold on
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05:02 <Sunburst> Yoink!
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05:06 * Thelema5 glances around
05:06 <Thelema5> Anypony here?
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05:06 <MarsToSirius> maybe
05:06 <Thelema5> I just rewatched the finale
05:07 <Thelema5> Nightmare Moon refered to Equestria as a Kingdom. I found this a bit odd.
05:07 <Thelema5> Is this the first time the word was used?
05:07 <MarsToSirius> Well... yeah. Because it's hers now. She can call it whatever she wants.
05:07 <MarsToSirius> I want to say no, but I can't think of a specific example offhand
05:08 <MarsToSirius> I /believe/ Equestria is a kingdom already?
05:08 <Thelema5> I don't think they've really used the phrase outright
05:08 <Scootaloo> No
05:09 <Scootaloo> I mean no to Thelema5's question about anyone being here
05:09 <Thelema5> It's a matriarchal society, so a kingdom would be out of place
05:09 <Thelema5> "King" Sombra is a bad guy, someone to be defeated
05:09 <MarsToSirius> I will say this much
05:09 <MarsToSirius> Had Lauren had her way, Celestia would've been a queen.
05:10 <Thelema5> True.
05:10 <Thelema5> But, it didn't test well.
05:10 <Thelema5> Disney baddies and all
05:11 <Scootaloo> Princess is more of an honorary title anyway, she acts more like a queen
05:11 <MarsToSirius> It's kinda hard to quantify what exactly Equestria /is/, whether it encompasses the entire planet/world they're on or if it's just a really large region
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05:11 <MarsToSirius> What complicates matters is the Crystal Empire
05:11 <Thelema5> But a kingdom implies a patriarchal society, where a male ruler commands his domain
05:11 <MarsToSirius> No?
05:11 <Scootaloo> It's whatever's on the size of the map
05:11 <Verandure> They went to the edge of Equestria and there was still land beyond it.
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05:12 <Verandure> Ergo, Equestria is a country/kingdom.
05:12 <Thelema5> Equestria is a country, yes. A domain.
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05:13 <Thelema5> KINGdom, though, is different. It suggests a patriarchal monarchy, which Equestria isn't. It's ruled by two sisters
05:13 <Scootaloo> Loose definition
05:15 <Thelema5> Either way, it was awkward for nightmare Moon to use it in reference to her own governance.
05:16 <Thelema5> She certainly isn't a king.
05:16 <Thelema5> Queendom would have been prefered
05:16 <Scootaloo> Pre-princess equestria was patriarchal
05:16 <Scootaloo> Just carried it over and was like "we ruled by two princesses now, deal with it"
05:17 <Thelema5> Source?
05:18 <Scootaloo> Closest source to canon that would suggest that is the journal of the two sisters
05:18 <Thelema5> The sisters were asked by Starswirl to serve as Princesses, that doesn't imply that he had any power prior to that point
05:19 <Thelema5> He was just a founding father
05:19 <Scootaloo> The different races each had their own rulers
05:19 <Thelema5> He abdigated any power he might have had to them.
05:19 <MarsToSirius> Wait, what?
05:19 <MarsToSirius> Starswirl asked them to be princesses? When was this?
05:19 <Thelema5> In the journal of the two sisters
05:20 <MarsToSirius> Oh, hot damn
05:21 <Thelema5> Meh, Nightmare Moon's useage just bugged me. Not a big deal, I just think she'd be ruling over an Empire rather than a Kingdom/
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05:23 <MarsToSirius> She's goddamn Nightmare Moon, she can call it whatever the heck she wants. :p
05:24 <Thelema5> :P
05:24 <Thelema5> But, she wouldn't have ever known a "kingdom"
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05:24 <Thelema5> Being as strong willed as she is, one would think she's say "Queendom".
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05:25 <Thelema5> But, writers are gonna write.
05:25 <Scootaloo> If you want a more canon reference to "kingdom" Thelema5 there's the hearth's warming eve episode
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05:25 <Scootaloo> Rarity played daughter of the unicorn king as Princess platinum
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05:26 <Scootaloo> The pegasi were military ruled by a commander
05:26 <MarsToSirius> Oh riiiiite, best princess did that
05:26 <Scootaloo> And the earth pones had an elected official
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05:27 <Thelema5> That was all before the founding of Equestria, though
05:27 <MarsToSirius> true
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05:28 <MarsToSirius> But that doesn't mean Luna would be completely ignorant of the existence of kingdoms
05:28 <MDP> made it home from work, what did i miss
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05:28 <Thelema5> Equestria was a social experiment, a new model. Kingdoms would exist, but they would be seen as oppositional to the new model
05:29 <wobniaR> Yep when they founded Equestria they essentally united all the kingdoms and empires across the land
05:29 <Thelema5> Under the Princesses, yes
05:29 <Thelema5> That's more of an empire.
05:29 <Thelema5> Or even a coalition.
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05:30 <MarsToSirius> So if it's the Equestrian Empire, what of the Crystal Empire? Is that not Equestria?
05:30 <wobniaR> It's part of it
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05:30 <Thelema5> So NMM was sort of undermining herself by calling her domain a kingdom...
05:30 <MarsToSirius> Or
05:30 <Thelema5> Because she's not a king, and Equestria doesn't need one.
05:31 <wobniaR> One nation, united under NMM
05:31 <MarsToSirius> Or she's using a batpony as a shadow puppet and she's the one pulling the strings. o3o d
05:31 <MarsToSirius> King Batpone!
05:31 <Thelema5> lol
05:32 <ThunderPie> I guess the count down to december 9th has began for me XD
05:32 <Thelema5> What is happening on Dec. 9th?
05:32 <ThunderPie> I turn 22! :D
05:32 <Thelema5> My Birthday is on Dec. 6th!
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05:32 * Thelema5 (\
05:33 <PinkieShy> /)
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05:33 <Sunburst> Wonder what happened to that colt.
05:34 <Thelema5> Are you doing anything special for your birthday, PinkieShy?
05:34 <Thelema5> I'm probably not.
05:35 <PinkieShy> nope as usual
05:35 <Thelema5> Yeah...
05:35 <MDP> I am so bored. and sad that the season is over.
05:35 <Thelema5> But still, happy early birthday!
05:36 <Thelema5> MDP, don't be sad! Lets celebrate the season instead!
05:36 <MDP> it was awesome
05:36 <Sunburst> Don't worry! In three months, they'll air another five episodes of Steven Universe!
05:36 <Sunburst> Half-finish another storyline then put in another five month hiatus!
05:37 <Verandure> Just imagine how long this hiatus would be if that mid-season hiatus hadn't happened
05:37 <Thelema5> Gah, in 10 minute episodes
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05:37 <Thelema5> Steven Universe is killing me
05:38 <PinkieShy> I have a feeling in my gut that tells me STarlight will be on more episodes soon and might end up being the princess of cutiemarks or something in the end.
05:38 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 was there a new episode yet?
05:38 <PinkieShy> of steven universe
05:38 <Thelema5> Of SU? No, not in more than a month.
05:38 <Thelema5> Nor will there be.
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05:39 <Thelema5> Last we heard, they were going to build a machine to destroy the cluster
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05:43 <Sunburst> I'm almost certain they're withholding their princess cards reeeeeally closely, Twilight will probably be our only one
05:45 <Thelema5> I feel like a horrible person... I was at a restaurant today, and saw a woman waiting to be seated just openly sucking her thumb. I thought, is she doing what I /think/ she's doing, and perhaps glared at her for too long. She glanced at me, and then instantly, instinctively, and shamefully stopped what she was doing
05:46 <Thelema5> So now I feel like I made her too self-aware of a private behavior, like I shouldn't even have noticed... and she's like embarrassed because of it
05:46 <Thelema5> This happened like 5 hours ago, and it's still bugging me
05:47 <Thelema5> It was awkward in any event.
05:48 <Cyan_Spark> Goodness, already we have someone named Sunburst
05:48 <Sunburst> No one took it...
05:48 <MDP> meow
05:48 <ADragonDreaming> Well, it's Mars AKA Lenfant.
05:48 <ADragonDreaming> I'm hardly surprised.
05:49 <ADragonDreaming> Also, everyone, Red Letter Day, I watched a pony episode the day it came out.
05:49 * Cyan_Spark facehoofs
05:49 <Sunburst> WOOP WOOP, dat's the sound of the channel police
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05:50 <ADragonDreaming> I've discovered what I need in order to do the episodes.
05:50 <ADragonDreaming> Apparently it's other people to watch it with.
05:51 <MDP> so watching a livestream?
05:52 <wobniaR> Watching pony with other people is always more fun
05:52 <MDP> agreed' to bad i only know digital bronies
05:53 <wobniaR> There's always livestreams and sync video sites
05:53 <MDP> yep, ive been using bronytv
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05:55 <MDP> im bored. wish i had another commission to do.
05:55 <Nicktendonick> Commission of what?
05:55 <MDP> I draw stuffs
05:56 <MDP> im also broke so need money lol
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06:00 <KooK> Razzle Dazzle
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06:01 <Gladiolus> so that finale
06:01 <Gladiolus> good lord
06:01 <FN> Haven't seen it yet
06:02 <Gladiolus> go
06:02 <Gladiolus> gooooo
06:02 <Gladiolus> it's everything i ever wanted
06:02 * FN sticks hooves in the ears and goes "lalalalalalalala"
06:02 <KooK> I don't think it's on Google Play yet
06:02 <Gladiolus> you should probably just /part FN
06:02 <Gladiolus> 'cause i wanna talk about it
06:02 <Gladiolus> but i dont wanna be rude to friend f
06:02 <Gladiolus> fn
06:02 <KooK> I can't see it until it comes up on das googles
06:03 <FN> That is not a problen, talk away
06:04 <Gladiolus> well
06:04 <Gladiolus> I like how in every alt-universe the mane six are all badasses
06:05 <Gladiolus> Metal As Heck Rarity, Amazon Fluttershy, Captain Rainbow Dash, etc.
06:05 <MDP> yup
06:05 <Gladiolus> Not sure what happened to the last alt-universe, nuclear war?
06:05 <Gladiolus> geez
06:05 <MDP> loved the scene of starlight clapping to mock twilight
06:05 <ADragonDreaming> I'm not into livestreams. That's /too/ many people.
06:05 <ADragonDreaming> So, incidentally. That final bad future.
06:06 <ADragonDreaming> The one where everything is simply gone.
06:06 <MDP> that's a world completely devoid of all friendship
06:06 <ADragonDreaming> I think that one specifically follows after Twilight accidentally crystal-prisons filly RD.
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06:06 <ADragonDreaming> I think the implications are clear.
06:07 <Gladiolus> What are the implications.
06:07 <ADragonDreaming> Either that RD became the villain...
06:07 <Gladiolus> I couldn't figure it out other than "What, nuclear war?"
06:07 <ADragonDreaming> or that she wasn't around when whatever happened, happened...
06:07 <Gladiolus> also everyone seemed to be fine under Nightmare Moon
06:07 <Gladiolus> happy even
06:07 <ADragonDreaming> I wouldn't say happy.
06:07 <Gladiolus> That was actually the best of all worlds.
06:08 <Gladiolus> I would, or else NMM will have you dungeoned
06:08 <MDP> zecora was pretty boss
06:08 <Gladiolus> EVERYONE IS HAPPY
06:08 <ADragonDreaming> I would say, willing to live with it.
06:08 <Gladiolus> PRAISE LUNA
06:08 <Gladiolus> I was surprised by the song.
06:08 <ADragonDreaming> Notably Nightmare Moon was the least threatening of all the villains that got real presence.
06:08 <Gladiolus> Well that was because she already won I guess.
06:09 <Gladiolus> She wasn't expecting a fight, the fight was over.
06:09 <ADragonDreaming> Yes, she also didn't have any idea of what Twilight was capable of.
06:09 <ADragonDreaming> At will teleport was not planned for.
06:09 <Gladiolus> Well she couldn't've
06:09 <ADragonDreaming> (incidentally, at will teleport is OP, pls nerf)
06:09 <Gladiolus> Twilight has been op for seasons now.
06:10 <Verandure> I also can't help but notice that the implication is that somebody was able to stop the villains that don't appear in each future. Sombra stopped NMM, Chrysalis, Tirek, and dead planet.
06:10 <Gladiolus> I love Starlight by the way, holy monley she owns.
06:10 <ADragonDreaming> Uh, no, not so much Tirek.
06:10 <ADragonDreaming> I think more the implication with Tirek not being a problem in the ones he wasn't a problem in is that the sequence of events that led to his release from Tartarus ddid not occur.
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06:11 <ADragonDreaming> specifically that occurred when Cerberus went for a walk. In Sombraverse, I can see that not happening given Equestria is at war, they're making damn sure Tartarus stays closed.
06:12 <ADragonDreaming> Additionally, Tirek is very weak when he first gets out. I rather doubt that Chrysalis, Nightmare Moon, or Sombra would be particularly tolerant of him.
06:12 <nightowl> hoot-hoot!(awsome!!)
06:13 <ADragonDreaming> Also note that in Sombraverse, Celestia leads the charge. Luna... nowhere to be found.
06:13 <ADragonDreaming> Potentially, she got sent back to the moon in that one.
06:14 <Sunburst> Or never left.
06:14 <ADragonDreaming> Mmm... no, I'd argue she did, given that event, much like Crystal Empire, was very much on a timer.
06:14 <Gladiolus> Maybe she got added to the statue garden
06:15 <Gladiolus> Another thousand year time out!
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06:21 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
06:22 <Dash> hello!
06:22 * Sunburst wiggles at Dash.
06:22 <Dash> oh hey you!
06:22 <Dash> your nick is ringing a bell
06:22 <Dash> are you someone i know?
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06:22 <Sunburst> Nah. I've had this nickname for like twenty minutes.
06:23 <Dash> ahh
06:23 <Dash> well in any case, hello!
06:23 <Dash> nice to meet you ^.^
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06:24 <nightowl> if the rainboom never happened how is twilight still an alicorn?
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06:25 <Sunburst> Because it's the Twilight tied to the current timeline visiting other timelines. We never see any other Twilights.
06:25 <Sunburst> By that logic Spike would instantly vanish.
06:25 * ConfusionRift stares seriously, and sighs.
06:25 <Dash> heh
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06:26 <nightowl> I thought she would lose her wings since she never became the princess of friendship.
06:26 <Sunburst> Nope.
06:26 <ConfusionRift> No idea where this is even coming from.
06:27 <Sunburst> Because he's thinking that anyone that travels through time must instantly incorporate all the effects of the timeline they visit
06:27 <Dash> woah woah is this finale talk?!
06:27 <Sunburst> You didn't read the topic, did you?
06:27 <Dash> i didnt XP
06:27 <Sunburst> rekt
06:27 <Dash> its fine
06:27 <nightowl> is that a problem with you?
06:27 <Dash> its gonna be a while till i get to that finale anyways XP
06:28 <ConfusionRift> Oh... well... I guess the episode can wait a week or so for me.
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06:29 <nightowl> how long must we wait now for a new season
06:29 <Gladiolus> 2020
06:30 <nightowl> !!!!!!!
06:30 <nightowl> I'd lose intrest by then......
06:31 <Gladiolus> Good, it'll come back for G5
06:31 <Gladiolus> GET HYPE
06:31 <Gladiolus> MLP: STARLIGHT'S GLIMMERS
06:31 <nightowl> ?
06:32 <Gladiolus> Starlight becomes the protagonist.
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06:32 <ConfusionRift> Well, I suppose I can burn time by watching it.
06:32 * Sunburst immediately nibbles on ALi's ears.
06:32 * Gladiolus licks the ame ears.
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06:32 <Gladiolus> oooo
06:32 <nightowl> yes what's next for our mane 6 or is this the end.
06:32 <Gladiolus> it's the elephant sausage
06:33 <MarsToSirius> Our Mane 6 will move on, and Season 6 will become...
06:33 <MarsToSirius> GENERATION 5. My Little Pony: THE CUTIE MARK CRUSADERS
06:33 <MarsToSirius> /o/
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06:33 <ConfusionRift> Well, I guess I should disappear for a bit.
06:33 <nightowl> bye
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06:34 <nightowl> season finale = epic
06:35 <MarsToSirius> yus. o3o
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06:44 <MDP> meow
06:45 <nightowl> lonely:(
06:46 <MDP> indeed
06:46 <nightowl> eating toast....
06:46 <MDP> hope it doesnt get too quiet around here durign the hiatus
06:46 <nightowl> how long do you think it will last
06:49 <nightowl> hello?
06:49 <MarsToSirius> foreeeeeeeever
06:50 <Mystic_Rebel> lol
06:51 <MDP> no. bad pinkie. no forever
06:52 <nightowl> propably get another eqg movie before season 6 (maybe)
06:53 <MDP> it is pretty quiet in here lately.
06:53 <MDP> does it normally get fairly quiet around here once the hiatus hits?
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06:57 <nightowl> don't know realy.......
06:58 <nightowl> maybe since there's no new episodes people don't have much reason to come here very much.
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06:59 <MDP> maybe, theres still tons of fan content
06:59 <nightowl> maybe.......
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07:00 <nightowl> wonder what they have in store for season 6
07:00 <MDP> other than starlight being twilights pupil... not sure.
07:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: <unspecified> [ http://tinyurl.com/ndemqjg ]
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07:09 <nightowl> wonder if the map will still serve a purpose.
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07:10 <MDP> i dunno, im so eagor for the next season
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07:15 <nightowl> me too I want it now!!!!!!!!
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07:15 <MDP> I wonder how long till it comes out, im also awaiting the season 5 dvd, so i can binge watch the whole series to refresh for the 6th season
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07:16 <ConfusionRift> That's done.
07:17 <MDP> What's done?
07:17 <ConfusionRift> Finished watching the finale.
07:18 <MDP> indeed
07:18 * Cepheid takes a break from EOU to play Etrian Mystery Dungeon instead.
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07:21 <nightowl> hey MDP
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07:22 <MDP> yes?
07:23 <MDP> yes nightowl?
07:23 <nightowl> ever play any of the professor layton games?
07:23 <MDP> nope
07:25 <nightowl> phoenix wright?
07:26 <MDP> nope. im not much of a nintendo gamer to be honest
07:26 <MDP> I was a sega sony kid
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07:27 <ConfusionRift> Ha-haaa! (smiles and flails)
07:27 <MDP> ?
07:28 <nightowl> sega? so you've played sonic the hedgehog?
07:29 <MDP> yep
07:29 <ConfusionRift> If you haven't, I would be very disappointed.
07:29 * ConfusionRift coughs.
07:29 <MDP> I've been a sonic fan a lot longer than a brony
07:30 <nightowl> meh. sonic's okay.
07:30 <MDP> he's.... seen better days
07:31 <ConfusionRift> Indeed. Not saying it's terrible now, but it used to be better.
07:31 <Ali> SANIC
07:31 * Ali goes fasta on MDP
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07:33 <nightowl> yeah... what happened?
07:34 <MDP> straight up, sega was notariously bad at decision making.
07:34 <MDP> now most of the original people that made the first few games are no longer with sega... sega it's self is not doing very well lol
07:35 <ConfusionRift> Group started breaking apart, focus was starting to sway, and Sega is no longer its own solid company. It's just basically a company that drained itself out.
07:35 <MDP> pretty much
07:35 <MDP> the might has fallen...very far.
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07:36 <MDP> real shame what sonic is now
07:37 <MDP> I still collect the comic books but im starting to lose interest in it becuase it's nothing even close to resembling the sonic i grew up with
07:38 <ConfusionRift> Hey, I did enjoy Generations and Colors. Now, I'm behind on Lost World. It did felt odd to play, and not exactly something I would go back and play for hours.
07:38 <ConfusionRift> Funny enough, the older games do that.
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07:38 <MDP> the last game I bought myself was generations....which i 100% in 2 days.
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07:39 <nightowl> you ever see sonic boom?
07:39 <Gladiolus> anyone know much about the might and magic series
07:40 <MDP> unfortunately.
07:40 <MDP> I pretty much despite all things boom
07:40 <MDP> despise
07:40 <nightowl> yeah especially what they did to shadow.
07:41 <nightowl> he was my favorite!!!!!!!!!
07:41 <nightowl> favorite!!!!!!!!!!!!
07:41 <Gladiolus> sonic 2006
07:41 <MDP> I regard boom as worse than sonic 2006
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07:41 <MDP> and 2k6 was abysmal
07:42 <Ali> Sanic 06 is worst game
07:42 <MDP> generations wasn't perfect... but it was the closest thing in recent years to being a good sonic game
07:42 * Ali sanic booms on MDP
07:43 <MDP> one of the thigns that really sucks about growing up is slowly watchign things you love change over time until they are completely different entitiess than what you fell in love with to begin with to a point they have to flat out reboot or kill it off
07:44 <Ali> There's still the comic!
07:45 <MDP> yeah... which ive been collectign since 1993, and after ken penders desided to crap all over it a year or so ago... it's been pretty bad.
07:45 <Gladiolus> Oh by the way, I believe MLP made a /very/ obscure politics reference today.
07:45 <Gladiolus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19ZxJVnM5Gs
07:45 <Gladiolus> WEll not /very/
07:45 <Gladiolus> But it's a wonk joke so lol.
07:45 <ConfusionRift> Upon further look, 06 is not exactly the worse. Yes, it was terrible, and glitchy. But Boom was newer, and yet managed to be just as bad.
07:46 <Ali> Funny from what I've seen of boom playthrus, I've yet to see that bad that is 06
07:46 <MDP> boom is actualyl glitchier, ugly as all get up, badly desined all around and just plain... no there realyl is virtualyl nothign remotely good about it
07:46 <Gladiolus> lol sega
07:47 <MDP> I've yet to play lost world
07:47 <MDP> tempted to try it via steam
07:47 <MDP> i played the demo on 3ds briefly and it wasn't that bad.
07:47 <MDP> other than odd parkour controlls seemed alright
07:48 <MDP> im not sure why so many loved sonic heroes, it was the first time i'd ever flat out destroyed a controller in frustration of a game i hated.
07:48 <ConfusionRift> Ali: Funny enough, 06 was a 50-50 in terms of experience with players. Some can't finish the glitchy mess, other finish it with no problems at all. Sonic Boom is terrible, glitchy, short, and newer than 06. For the time ti was released, it made no sense why it would be so... archaic.
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07:49 <MDP> boom was trash becuase they handed it out entirely to a company with virtually no experience with anything other than games like uncharted and crash bandicoot
07:49 <MDP> they handed sonic to people that basically never even heard of sonic
07:49 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, and the bad experience is consistent, while 06 just happened at intervals.
07:49 <nightowl> yeah feels like I'm watching aosth.
07:50 <ConfusionRift> And MDP is not wrong.
07:50 <MDP> i still think generations was the closest they've come to a sonic game that didn't completely suck in the last decade or so
07:51 <ConfusionRift> They got it right. Classic played like its retro version, and modern played like the faster speed modern version.
07:51 <MDP> the problem is that most people today never played the originals, and they all grew up during sonics identity crisis
07:51 <Cepheid> I think a lot of the problem with more recent games too is that PSO2 is currently Sega's money maker, so they put all the focus in that at the expense of EVERYTHING ELSE.
07:51 <MDP> so you get a lot of people that basically know fanfiction sonic
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07:52 <nightowl> besides boom watch all if any of the others
07:53 <MDP> i also think im just too close to sonic personally. I mean I've been a fan since 1991... im totalyl biased. and it's just changed so much now that it's so different to me now you know? probably much the same way that g1 mlp people would view mlp today
07:53 <ConfusionRift> Finally, Fallout! (sighs in relief)
07:53 <nightowl> ever watch sonic x?
07:53 <ConfusionRift> 4 hours on nothing but installations!
07:54 <MDP> yeah. i remember sonic x, it was great until the second episode
07:54 <MDP> then chris shows up and craps all over the show
07:54 <nightowl> sonic underground?
07:54 <MDP> yeah sonic underground was ...okay. it was just a badly done retool of SatAM
07:55 <nightowl> still wish it was completed though.....
07:55 <MDP> SatAM was my favourite. AoSth was just...too goofy but most seem to remember it more fondly than I do.
07:55 <Ali> Sonic X ewww
07:56 <MDP> Satam lived on through archie comics up until about a year ago when ken penders decided he wanted to be a wanker and screw them over. now we have a psuedo reboot going
07:56 <Ali> DOWN WITH CHRIS THORNDIKE
07:56 <Ali> hey the crossover was fun
07:56 <Ali> Though the Unleashed tiein is a bit confusing.
07:57 <nightowl> think sonic boom went back to the roots of aosth?
07:57 <MDP> I just don't understand why sega can't figure out what sonic fans want. it's VERY simple. We want a sonic game with out lame whiny mundane cliche characters, that are multi pathed levels, with a decent enough story, with some speed but good platforming. Let us control him through the level gimics rather than watch the game play itself
07:58 <MDP> FIX.THE. GLITCHES
07:58 <MDP> stop trying to make sonic in to other games.
07:59 <MDP> Boom failed cuz it tried to be uncharted. 2k6 failed because they tried to make a cartoony world realistic.
07:59 <MDP> unleashed failed becuase warehog.
08:00 <nightowl> lost world failed how?
08:00 <MDP> i dunno never played it
08:00 <MDP> I own around 50 to 60 sonic games.
08:01 <Cepheid> Hum... Etrian Mystery Dungeon's boss theme.. Huzzah for awesome music.
08:01 <MDP> I think they've just become to convoluted and try to be too complicated. i think they need to simplify it down to being speed run obsticules courses with multiple paths wher he player controls absolutely everything
08:03 <MDP> on another note i think i give up trying to get my art on the drawfriend posts, I submit every eek and never get anywhere
08:04 * Gladiolus hugs MDP
08:04 <Gladiolus> Your art is good and you're talented though.
08:04 <ConfusionRift> ^
08:04 <MDP> I know.
08:04 <Gladiolus> gud
08:05 <MDP> still it'd be nice if id at least get a reply as to why i never make it on. seriously the onyl time i ever made it one was the single one picture i didn't submit.
08:05 <Gladiolus> sonic 2006 also failed because he tried to be some sort of weird ~the most epic game ever~ and ended up with a plot out of fanfiction and ungodly horrible gameplay due to too-wide a scope.
08:05 <MDP> becuase apparently someone else suggested it to them
08:06 <MDP> I've kind of just accepted tha tthey pretty much instantly reject Equestria girls fan art, was realyl hopign that commission i did for wobniar with scootaloo and diamond tiara would make it on the draw friend.
08:07 <Gladiolus> EQD's moderators for fanfiction and art are weird.
08:07 <Gladiolus> They once turned down a fic of mine and I asked why- I ended up with some sort of head mod emailing both me and the mod asking for a short explanation.
08:07 <Gladiolus> I got nothin', ever.
08:07 <Gladiolus> All I want is like, a single sentence. I mean like geez.
08:07 <Gladiolus> Even "The title sounded disinteresting" is enough.
08:08 * ConfusionRift shrugs.
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08:08 <MDP> yeah. i mean im no special snowflake or anything and i know they get tons of submitions
08:08 <MDP> but at least reply to ONE OF THEM
08:08 <StormDashNLR> !hug
08:08 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3
08:08 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around StormDashNLR in a tight embrace
08:08 <ConfusionRift> I wouldn't make it my objective then. Instead, do it for your own principles and practice.
08:09 <MDP> its more or less that I want the influx of people on my channell lol
08:09 <MDP> im trying to get more commissions goign as im trying to save up for some expensive dental work
08:10 <MDP> I already miss watching new pony and we've been on hiatus for only a few hours lol
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08:17 <MDP> yeah
08:17 <MDP> wonder how tlong the hiatus will really be
08:17 <MDP> once i can get the season 5 dvd, to make the wait easier i plan to binge watch the whoel serious again for a refresher
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08:25 <Cepheid> Hum. That's an interesting concept. Kind of makes extra characters worthwhile..
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08:25 <Cepheid> So, Etrian Mystery Dungeon, who wants on my team as a guard force?
08:25 <Cepheid> Slash rescue team.
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08:32 <nightowl> never heard of it
08:34 <Cepheid> Take Etrian Odyssey's concept, apply it to a Mystery Dungeon game. It's basically a roguelike with parties.
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08:35 <Cepheid> Anyways, the thing about the rescue party is that if my main party bites the dust in the dungeon, I'll need a separate team to go rescue their butts.
08:35 <nightowl> mystery dungeon? like pokemon?
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08:36 <Cepheid> Presumably like the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games, yes. I've never played them, myself.
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08:38 <nightowl> I have.
08:39 <Cepheid> In this case, it's basically you enter randomly generated dungeons with a top-down view, and kill stuff.
08:39 <nightowl> gotta go now got nightowl stuff to do (bye-bye)
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09:05 <Tirek> I have been summoned.
09:05 <SugarWing> cool
09:06 <Tirek> A little less than three hours ago.
09:06 <SugarWing> can i dissummon you? :P i dont want to just saying
09:06 <Tirek> And my friend had just informed me that there's a Twitch Plays Earthbound thing going on.
09:06 <Tirek> This ought to be interesting.
09:09 <SugarWing> ?
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09:15 <Tirek> http://www.twitch.tv/razorsharpfang
09:15 <Tirek> Behold, nonsense and intense tomfoolery.
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09:18 <Cepheid> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.D.C._Willard This seems like something I'd do.
09:20 <Cepheid> Actually.. That *IS* something I'd do.
09:21 <Cepheid> Given I have a bad habit of writing in a similar manner. "We need X to do Y." in my project documents.
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09:28 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Cepheid?
09:32 <Cepheid> Yes?
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09:56 <SugarWing> :P
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10:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: Season 5 In A Nutshell [ http://tinyurl.com/qgcwk8j ]
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10:12 <Schism> While we're at it, Cepheid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_with_fraudulent_diplomas
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10:14 <Cepheid> I saw that, yeah.
10:29 * Cepheid problem solves for map rendering in an Etrian Odyssey clone.
10:31 * Schism considers a 250,000-space megamap, with the occasional healing spring tossed in (of course) and enough FOEs tossed in there to choke a reservoir.
10:33 <Cepheid> Heh.
10:33 <Schism> One thing I've always liked about EO and Monster Hunter: you don't get monsters dropping gold. They drop parts, which are then /turned in/ for gold.
10:34 <Cepheid> 500x500 cell map.
10:34 <Cepheid> And aye. On the other hand, brutal difficulty.
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10:34 <Schism> Yup. Because it's /realistic/. Brutal, but fair as well.
10:34 * Cepheid is attempting to increase the power of his EOU team by using retiring to get a few extra stats and points.
10:35 <Schism> Pretty much essential for the endgame. And using Troubadours to powerlevel some characters.
10:35 <Schism> It occurs to me that ATLUS used precisely the same sort of mechanic in Disgaea.
10:36 <Cepheid> Aye.
10:36 <Cepheid> Although ATLUS isn't the developer of Disgaea. Just the publisher, at least for the first game.
10:36 <Cepheid> Successive games were published by the developer of the games.
10:36 <Schism> Well, okay, Nippon-Ichi.
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10:36 <Schism> But that seems to be almost exactly the same mechanic in any case. Just a lot harsher in EO.
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10:36 <Cepheid> Indeed.
10:37 <Schism> Same style in each case, too. In EO, those extra points come from tutoring and grooming by an already experienced adventurer.
10:38 <Cepheid> Aye. Next character to get a boost is likely going to be the Medic of the team.
10:38 <Cepheid> Get everyone up to speed, then go and take on the Wyvern.
10:38 <Cepheid> Now that I got that blasted Call of the Wyvern quest.
10:38 <Schism> Very good plan. And heh. Maybe you can paralyze it this time.
10:38 <Schism> Ahh.
10:38 <Cepheid> Call of the Wyvern is the precursor to the Wyrm fight.
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10:40 <Schism> Ohh, right.
10:41 * Schism looks at the conditional drop for the Wyrm, and facehoofs. "Now, that is simply unfair."
10:41 <Cepheid> Cepheid's pretty much prepared for all the Dragons.
10:41 <Cepheid> Ice/Volt/Fire Wall. Negates the specified damage.
10:41 <Cepheid> Useful for fighting the elemental dragons.
10:42 <Schism> Yeah, this mook's Fire Torrent is evidently overwhelmingly painful.
10:43 <Cepheid> 800 damage to the entire party unresisted.
10:43 <Schism> First turn it always does it. Because, hey, makes sense. What kind of chump goes into a battle with their weakest attacks first? </sans>
10:43 <Cepheid> It can be mitigated by either using Fire Wall, which negates it, or using appropriate items and skills that boost fire resistance.
10:44 <Cepheid> I've fought the dragons in Etrian Odyssey 4, and killed them, so...
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10:48 <Cepheid> Anyhow, what I'm working on in my project is mostly about rendering the world. At the moment I just got placeholder checkerboard walls and floors.
10:49 <Cepheid> http://i.imgur.com/sZXCepM.png This is what it looks like at the moment as a result.
10:49 <Cepheid> But the approach I'm using for rendering won't work in the long run. Turns out I need a 3D model quivalent of a ninepatch.
10:54 <Schism> I've heard that most cloth retailers sell those.
10:55 <Schism> Anyway, hmm. Yes, for a start, the black and white leads to .. inconsistencies. Where the mind sees a spot that's not there.
10:56 <Schism> Useful in game, blasphemous for playtesting. Have you attempted vertical stripes instead, randomly placed for your walls? Nothing that'll cause you to gouge your eyes out, but cyan, aquamarine, viridian, that sort of thing, which'll differentiate the walls.
10:58 <Cepheid> Eh. It's not something I'll be using in the final version. It's temporary, so it's irrelevant.
10:58 <Schism> ...
10:58 <Cepheid> The walls and flooring I have in place now are for testing other things.
10:58 * Schism baps Cepheid. "If it makes your job easier without downsides, or harder without upsides, it's not irrelevant."
10:59 <Cepheid> Namely, creating maps and such.
10:59 <Cepheid> All of that stuff is going to be scrapped later on. Though I'll likely still use the same texture for a bit as a placeholder.
11:00 <Schism> If it causes you fewer headaches in the long run, why not replace it now?
11:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Early Morning Discussion #355 [ http://tinyurl.com/hj657js ]
11:00 <Schism> With the caveat, of course, that you're not sure it'll be the right texture for later production.
11:02 <Cepheid> True.
11:03 <Schism> I suppose the white-and-black checkerboard pattern does have a benefit - you look at the product and you can definitely spot inconsistencies, like that bowed-in 'wall' on the right. But... ehh...
11:03 <Cepheid> As for the ninepatch I need to implement, envision looking down on a square. Split that square into 3x3 subsquares. You now have a centre region, side regions, and corner regions.
11:04 <Schism> I am familiar with the concept of a quilt, thank you.
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11:04 <Cepheid> The side regions are walls. They can have different appearances on either side. The corner regions are used for connecting adjacent cells seamlessly regardless of what the walls look like.
11:04 <Cepheid> The approach I'm using now is just "Render a full floor model. Render wall models. Render ceiling model.
11:05 <Cepheid> Works for simple designs, it'd break when aesthetic designs are implemented though.
11:06 <Schism> Gotcha. So you want a model which creates specific results when two different 'biomes' are side by side.
11:06 <Cepheid> Something like that.
11:07 <Cepheid> See, with the current approach right now, the walls would have to be modeled in a certain way for cases like exterior and interior corners, pillars, and so on.
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11:07 <Cepheid> And that "certain way" is a considerable restraint.
11:08 <Schism> You could go with beacons - not sure what they're actually called - which change the modeling in a certain set of mannerisms as you approach them. Then you can have the walls react depending on how far they are from a beacon.
11:09 <Cepheid> Not quite what I mean. I'd have to diagram it to show what I mean.
11:09 <Schism> Not the best way to describe that... alright. Sorry, my metaphor chamber has run dry.
11:10 <Cepheid> Imagine that the model for a wall segment is slanted up and out away from the open areas. Like so: \_/ Where the \ and / are walls, the _ is floor.
11:11 <Cepheid> At an exterior corner, which is a common case, such as when a hallway opens up into a room, try placing two of those slanted walls at perpendicular angles to one another.
11:12 <Cepheid> To represent the wall of the room and the wall of the hallway meeting.
11:12 <Schism> Ahh, gotcha.
11:12 <Cepheid> The wall models will intersect, and there will also be a discontinuity.
11:12 <Schism> That'd weird things out considerably, I must admit.
11:13 <Cepheid> By changing it to a ninepatch, I can create a special model for joining the wall of the hallway and the wall of the room, and render that in the appropriate corner.
11:14 <Cepheid> Pretty sure this is how the Etrian Odyssey games work.
11:14 <Schism> Got it. Though I think Etrian Odyssey games have one benefit over yours, in terms of ease of coding.
11:14 <Cepheid> Oh?
11:15 <Schism> They're hard-coded. You're setting things up to be a flexible project where, in the end, anyone can create levels which fit. EO games have a set of levels which WON'T change like that, and expose flaws in their design.
11:16 <Cepheid> Yeah, but I'm pretty certain that each floor isn't just one large model.
11:16 <Schism> Oh, well, yes.
11:16 <Cepheid> It's a tileset-like system, as in many other games. It's just you can't create custom maps.
11:17 <Schism> I think it runs deeper than that, and they used a lot of tricks... I think I'm just arguing past you. Either way, sounds sane.
11:17 <Cepheid> Oh, I won't deny that they use tricks.
11:18 <Schism> The trick is to find those tricks, trickily, with tricky tricks.
11:18 * Schism facedesks.
11:20 <Cepheid> I'm pretty certain that the approach above is what the games use though. Because otherwise the complexity actually gets WORSE.
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11:23 <LunaticHell> mornin' equestria
11:24 <LunaticHell> Oh boy, I had some dream, I blame the enegy drink I drank at midnight.
11:24 <Cepheid> You too huh? I had a heck of a pair of dreams last night. First one was wierd, and I don't recall all the details. Second one was more... unique.
11:25 <Cepheid> I remember it quite clearly, and I guarantee that if I recited the details of it, at least one of you would argue that it has some sort of profound meaning to it.
11:25 <LunaticHell> So I was working in some secret service bureau, but somehow everyone was singing.
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11:26 <Schism> No dreams for me last night, but we'll see what nightmares today brings. It's the Sunday after Black Friday and the crazies are prepping.
11:26 <LunaticHell> I realised the reason after I found someone who could not make audible and/or musical sounds.
11:26 <LunaticHell> Guess why.
11:26 <Schism> Stolen everyone's voice?
11:27 <Schism> or, rather, the inverse.'
11:27 <LunaticHell> [brotip: I ALSO was watching the final episode at midnight]
11:27 <LunaticHell> What are the chances that I'd dream of it the same day I watch it? *wink wink*
11:28 <Schism> Of course. Also, LunaticHell, the current storyline of 'Widdershins' involves a person who can steal others' talents. This started WELL before S5 got underway.
11:29 <LunaticHell> Way wrong direction.
11:29 <Schism> No, literally the opposite direction.
11:29 <LunaticHell> From what?
11:29 <LunaticHell> The thing I dreamed or the show?
11:29 <Cepheid> In my case, the more vivid dream I recall, consisted of a strange crystaline spire or pillar(Not sure which) springing up somewhere. Bunch of people try to climb it, fail. I give it a shot, using a grappling hook in an intuitive way due to the spire's slightly conical shape. After a kilometer up, passing several thin ledges a person can stand on, I reached the top.
11:29 <Schism> I get it. They were either exuding the ability to sing, or their ability - despite being deaf - was to inspire song.
11:30 <LunaticHell> What? No.
11:30 <Cepheid> At the top was darkness around me and a strange light shining from above.
11:30 <LunaticHell> It was a changling.
11:30 <Schism> Go ahead then, LH. >.>
11:30 * Schism blinks.
11:31 <Double> Or A siren
11:31 <LunaticHell> The agents had the order to sing songs from their youth, changling youth songs don't sound very human.
11:31 <LunaticHell> (never said the agents were ponies, did I?)
11:32 <Schism> That sounds like some of the riddles I foisted upon folks in a game the other night, for prizes.
11:32 <LunaticHell> xD
11:32 <LunaticHell> By the by, I've been playing FFXIII all day, yesterday
11:33 <Schism> Water lifts me, air betrays me, fire destroys me, earth carves me, void sustains me. What am I?
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11:33 <LunaticHell> I can understand why people say that Lightning is the best waifu, her actual first name also is delicious.
11:33 <Cepheid> Schism: A tree?
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11:34 <Schism> Nope...!
11:34 <LunaticHell> In the english version it's "Claire", but in the japanese...
11:35 <Cepheid> Anyhow, my other dream was less disturbing. Basically a case of "What if Van Helsing met Castlevania?"
11:35 <LunaticHell> ...kinda sounds like part of a pony name, "Eclair".
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11:35 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Ugh
11:35 <Cepheid> And Eclairs are tasty.
11:35 <Schism> Cepheid: Oh, yes. They're almost... cloud-like.
11:36 <LunaticHell> hehehe
11:36 <Schism> And 'Ferron' brings to mind images of lightning.
11:36 <LunaticHell> If you eat too many of those, you won't me "light" any more.
11:36 <LunaticHell> be*
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11:36 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Cepheid my phone is weirding out
11:36 <Cepheid> I figured as such.
11:37 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Im using my tab now
11:37 <Schism> But yes, éclair are so named because they're eaten in a flash.
11:37 <Schism> Literally means 'flash of lightning'.
11:38 <LunaticHell> Well anyway, I managed to get to the Grand thingy place, now it's time for hunting...not yet the big game, because even their walking causes heavy damage to the entire team.
11:38 <LunaticHell> Yes, they are THIS BIG.
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11:38 <Cepheid> Yeah, Gran Pulse has some devestatingly dangerous monsters.
11:40 <Cepheid> In other news, I think I developed carpal tunnel.
11:42 <Cepheid> Lately, my left wrist has been sore when I move my hand around. Especially just after waking up.
11:48 <LunaticHell> That's not good.
11:48 <LunaticHell> By the by: is it just me or do the prices for the advance grid thingy go to crazy high numbers?
11:50 <LunaticHell> "you can now asign every member to every cass" sounds great "oh well, the inital cost for the first skill will be 3000 points and everything above will go up to 12000 and higher"...wait what?
11:50 <Cepheid> Yeah. Anything other than their primary grids is expensive as all hell.
11:52 <LunaticHell> Say, do you know a good source of income?
11:52 <Cepheid> It's been so long I don't recall.
11:52 <LunaticHell> I want to level up my equipment, but all components I find are rubbish and worth nothing.
11:53 <Cepheid> And the components you do need are expensive as all hell, right?
11:53 <LunaticHell> Yup.
11:53 <Cepheid> Yeah, unfortunately I can't help you there.
11:53 <LunaticHell> At least I got my gladius to maximal level and converted it into something better.
11:54 <LunaticHell> No biggie, I'll figure something out, eventually.
11:55 <Cepheid> Schism: Oh yeh, speaking of games. Etrian Mystery Dungeon is an interesting diversion from the base series. But you can tell it was done by another developer, one that likes particularly strong Japanese themes.
11:57 <LunaticHell> sometimes strong japanese themes aren't that bad
11:59 <Cepheid> Nah, it's interesting.
12:00 <Cepheid> As for the gameplay itself, it's not bad. Different from the typical Etrian Odyssey fare.
12:00 <Cepheid> Given that it's a top-down party-based roguelike and all.
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12:05 <ConfusionRift> Oooh, should had been asleep long ago! Laters everypony.
12:05 <LunaticHell> I already can slaughter King Behemoths....but only if I get first strike....^^'
12:05 <LunaticHell> nights confi
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12:06 <LunaticHell> The only other time I manage to beat a king behemoth was thanks to alexander's being crazy powerful.
12:17 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS47v1j29ec Have a heart attack. SCHISM!
12:17 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Kitten Train
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12:28 <FN> I fail
12:28 <FN> http://imgur.com/a/7pg6B
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12:29 <Finwe> o3o
12:30 <FN> But hey, at least it was just a few hours of thinking
12:30 <Finwe> Lt Cdr Colgate u
12:30 <Finwe> Hmm...
12:30 <CleverDerpy> hiya~
12:31 <CleverDerpy> good morning~
12:31 <Finwe> Oh, he left.
12:31 <Finwe> SLt CleverDerpy.
12:31 <Finwe> o7
12:32 <CleverDerpy> RAdm. Finwe
12:32 * CleverDerpy salutes
12:32 * Finwe is hopelessly drunk.
12:32 * CleverDerpy cuddles next to Finwe
12:33 <CleverDerpy> i'll help you around, muffin
12:33 <Finwe> There's a brunch served upstairs, I should probably go there.
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12:34 <Finwe> Bacon and herring will put things straight.
12:34 <Finwe> !seen straight
12:35 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw....will you cut that out already?!
12:35 * Finwe cuts that out already.
12:36 <Schism> Yesterday, by the way, I found myself with a legitimate Android virus.
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12:37 <Schism> The application ONChat has been shut down for quite some time, but is now a reservoir of false patches. When my customer's Android device downloaded the patch in question, it resulted in a ransomware page every time they brought it up.
12:38 <Schism> Some Android devices have that installed by default - a Samsung Tab 2 did, for example - and you need to boot in safe mode to remove it.
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12:40 <Schism> ChatON, sorry.
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13:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comic: Rookie Mistake / Starlight Glimmercomic / Fallout: Regime of Equality / Diamond and Dazzle - Sleepover [ http://tinyurl.com/jjnwdsv ]
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13:18 <DerpyBot> *derp*
13:21 <fyrepony> http://tinyurl.com/hp63hxy
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13:22 <Heartbreak> Lime Pie.
13:23 <Tirek> Sounds good, let's eat.
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13:30 <Heartbreak> ... What was that you just added?
13:30 <Divide|TechSupport> Dragonfire pepper extract.
13:30 <Divide|TechSupport> One drop.
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13:58 <Heartbreak> ...
13:58 <Heartbreak> Nooooo.
13:58 <Heartbreak> Just ... noooooo
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15:41 <SugarWing> hi
15:42 <SugarWing> is it really true that we have to wait 1 year 'til the next episode?
15:42 <Electron> Yes.
15:42 <SugarWing> : P
15:43 <SugarWing> is there someone who learned Italian by the way?
15:43 <Electron> I can see no fun in this. :(
15:44 <SugarWing> i didnt mean for that
15:44 <SugarWing> i put spase in between
15:44 <Electron> Well, if one year hiatus means a good quality of the new season, I would wait gladly.
15:44 <SugarWing> http://www.coolebaytools.com/tips/add-mood-to-facebook-updates-with-emoticons#.VlsdcXYvfDc
15:45 <SugarWing> so it looks more like the tounge one
15:45 <SugarWing> but theres another one then
15:45 <SugarWing> D:
15:47 <MarsToSirius> It probably won't be a full year. But we'll see.
15:47 <SugarWing> i can just hope it doesnt
15:48 <SugarWing> and now i see why they put the hearts warming episode earlier
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15:49 <SugarWing> what a cool name Noodles :D
15:49 <SugarWing> and hi ;)
15:49 <SgtPinkie> Is it just me or do the season premieres/finales get more maturesque with each season (Not counting season 3)
15:49 <Noodles> hi
15:49 <SgtPinkie> Well, maybe not mature
15:50 <Noodles> ty
15:50 <SugarWing> can you tell me whats a maturesque?
15:50 <SgtPinkie> ...More complex maybe?
15:50 <SugarWing> oh okay
15:50 <SgtPinkie> No
15:50 <Noodles> Refined
15:51 <SugarWing> i asked it because im learning english
15:51 <SgtPinkie> Ah
15:51 <SugarWing> i dont know that many words yet
15:51 * Sour_Sweet waves at SugarWing and Electron
15:51 <SgtPinkie> Where are you from?
15:51 * SugarWing waves back and fly to Sour_Sweet
15:51 <SugarWing> from hungary :D
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15:53 <SugarWing> hiya KooK
15:53 <KooK> Soup
15:54 <KooK> yawnage
15:55 <SugarWing> just woke up?
15:55 <KooK> yeah, I didn't get much sleep the other day
15:55 <KooK> Then my girlfriend ended up talking to me until around midnight last night
15:57 <SugarWing> :P
15:57 <KooK> I need to drill a hole in my basement floor today and light a match
15:58 <SugarWing> why do you have to light a match?
15:58 <KooK> I installed a system that creates a vaccum under the house and I need to make sure it's stretching to the corners.
15:58 <SugarWing> or i just misunderstanding?
15:58 <KooK> To test it you light a match, blow it out and see if the smoke goes in the hole.
15:59 <SugarWing> why would you create vaccum under your house if i can ask?
15:59 <KooK> here in Iowa we have a radon issue that affects a lot of homes, mine included. The levels weren't absolutely terrible but they were bad enough that I needed a system installed.
16:00 <KooK> So what you do is, you create a vaccum under the house and that will suck up almost all of the radon gas itself and push it out before it gets a chance to come inside the house.
16:02 <SugarWing> because the radon is deadly?
16:02 <SugarWing> it was long ago i learnt chemics
16:02 * Heartbreak looks at SugarWing in the eyes.
16:02 <KooK> Yeah, radon isn't good for anybodies health
16:02 <SugarWing> i dont have in pre-intermediate
16:02 <SugarWing> 'sup Heartbreak ?
16:02 <Heartbreak> I have blue sparkling eyes.
16:03 <Heartbreak> Other than that? Nothing much. Sleeping soon.
16:04 <SugarWing> why do you always make that pun with me?
16:04 <Heartbreak> ... How is that a pun?
16:04 <KooK> I was thinking there must be an inside joke here I'm not getting
16:05 <SugarWing> no
16:05 <SugarWing> because i dont get that too but its the second time he tells me this
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16:05 <SugarWing> ah!
16:05 <Heartbreak> Cause of the picture you did for me...?
16:06 <SugarWing> i dont get the italian homework
16:06 <Heartbreak> You made my eyes brown.
16:06 <SugarWing> oh
16:06 <SugarWing> :P
16:06 * Heartbreak ruffles SugarWing's mane.
16:06 <Heartbreak> Silly mare.
16:07 <SugarWing> poor hungarian friend in the hungarian brony team
16:07 <SugarWing> i just told him that the mlp will be delayed for a year
16:07 <SugarWing> he meant that it wont come back forever
16:07 <SugarWing> :P
16:08 * Heartbreak boops SugarWing.
16:08 <SugarWing> you know what will happen if you boop my nose...
16:09 <KooK> craaaaaaaaap, what's that photography website I always used back in the day...
16:09 <Heartbreak> SugarWing, You'll explode?
16:09 <SugarWing> no
16:09 <Heartbreak> That's what sheep do.
16:09 * SugarWing lick Heartbreak's hoof
16:09 <SugarWing> *licks
16:09 <Heartbreak> Ewwwww!
16:09 <SugarWing> i did that before
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16:10 <SugarWing> i tought you will remember
16:10 <Heartbreak> Nope...
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16:11 <Heartbreak> But I will now...
16:11 <Heartbreak> Ewwww.
16:11 <SugarWing> a min please
16:11 <SugarWing> ill be back in a dash ;)
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16:16 <KooK> I'm thinking about spending $155 on a camera lens...
16:16 <KooK> For what it is, it's super cheap
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16:16 <SugarWing> back
16:16 <SugarWing> 155 dollars?
16:17 <SugarWing> wow
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16:17 <SugarWing> here it would be more that 33000 forint
16:18 <KooK> They went for almost $400 new and they are really a great setup
16:18 <SugarWing> if it worth for you... ;)
16:19 <SugarWing> is there anyone who learnt italian?
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16:19 <KooK> My mother
16:19 <KooK> :P
16:19 <SugarWing> :D
16:20 <KooK> I'll be back later, I need to wash the night stank off me
16:20 <SugarWing> ?
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16:28 <Sour_Sweet> So Electron, did you manage to watch the finale already?
16:30 <SugarWing> Electron ?
16:31 <Sour_Sweet> The higsest forint coin I could find is like 6 cents :P
16:31 <Sour_Sweet> highest*
16:31 <SugarWing> where did you get forints?
16:32 <SugarWing> cents are reallly really old
16:32 <SugarWing> older than me :D
16:32 <Sour_Sweet> I meant euro cents. I looked and an old table. There are new coins
16:33 <Sour_Sweet> at* silly me
16:33 <SugarWing> oh
16:33 <SugarWing> we dont use euro
16:33 <SugarWing> yet
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16:34 <MarsToSirius> ... yey.
16:34 <MarsToSirius> yet*
16:34 <MarsToSirius> *ominous music*
16:34 <Sour_Sweet> I know. I meant the value of the highest old forint coin is 6 euro cents (20 forint), however there are new coins I didn't saw at first up to 500 forint
16:35 <Sour_Sweet> Which is about 1.60 euros
16:36 <SugarWing> ?
16:36 <SugarWing> i think im done with the hw
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16:37 <SugarWing> a minute
16:37 <SugarWing> a want to make ... make..
16:37 <SugarWing> uh
16:38 <SugarWing> gingerbread
16:39 <SugarWing> and i want to see if there spice at home for it
16:41 <SugarWing> no
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16:58 <MDP> hello everypony
16:58 <SugarWing> hi
16:58 <MDP> how goes
17:00 <SugarWing> good
17:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Spotlight Music: Friends are always there for you (JoinedTheHerd Remix) / [ http://tinyurl.com/nfka8z7 ]
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17:12 <Future> yo yo yo!
17:13 <MDP> sup
17:13 <Future> :p
17:13 <Future> I just came back from Mammoth mountain
17:13 <SugarWing> wow
17:14 <MDP> fun?
17:14 <Future> Yup!
17:14 <Future> I drew 2 pics on my way back, still have to post them
17:14 <Future> wait, brb
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17:25 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> HAI
17:25 <SugarWing> what a name :D but hii
17:25 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> did u see the part 1 and 2 yet???
17:26 <SugarWing> yep in stream
17:26 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> i swear if that was the final season....
17:26 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> o wait no its not
17:26 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> so how are you?
17:27 <SugarWing> pretty good but a bit disappointe
17:27 <SugarWing> s
17:27 <SugarWing> d
17:27 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> mmm hmmmm
17:27 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> so do you know how to draw ponies?
17:27 <SugarWing> i was talking to someone here but he disconnected without a goodbye
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17:28 <MarsToSirius> It's not the final season.
17:28 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> i knoow
17:28 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> THANK U GOOGLE
17:28 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> soooooooooooooo
17:28 <SugarWing> hungarian pony podcast :3
17:29 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> huh?
17:29 <KooK> Work it do it overtime
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17:29 <Future> Ok, Im back!
17:29 <SugarWing> 4 man talking about ponies in every sunday in 6 pm
17:29 <SugarWing> cool
17:30 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> do any of u play agario
17:30 <Future> ???
17:30 <Future> I Do!!!!
17:30 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> YAY
17:30 <SugarWing> yes me too
17:30 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> its sooooooooooooo addicting
17:30 <Future> Not yet though
17:30 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> but im good at it
17:30 <Future> I have to finish a science project
17:30 <SugarWing> lets play together
17:30 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> so do i
17:30 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> YA
17:31 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> mkay im getting a server, brb
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17:32 <Future> http://futuritsiccrystal.deviantart.com/art/Look-what-I-found-574086127
17:32 <Future> this is my newest pic
17:32 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> mkay ill check it out
17:32 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> @sugarwing got it... agar.io/#SSYMZ
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17:34 <SugarWing> wait... i forgot hw to join one
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17:34 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> JUST copy and paste
17:34 <SugarWing> but where?
17:34 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> agar.io/#SSYMZ
17:34 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> do that whole thing in a url box
17:35 <SugarWing> oooh
17:35 <SugarWing> okay got it
17:35 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> wat ur name be
17:36 <SugarWing> SugarWing
17:36 <SugarWing> yours?
17:36 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> hmmm... a very important choice...
17:36 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> ill beeeeeeeeeeeeee.........
17:37 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> starlightsparkle i guess :P
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17:37 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> mkay, so....... bottom right corner?
17:38 <Future> Still playing?
17:38 <Future> :p
17:38 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> ?
17:38 <SugarWing> yes
17:38 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> k lets go
17:38 <Future> I'll join you soon
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17:39 <MDP> what you playing?
17:40 <SugarWing> agario
17:41 <SugarWing> i cant get to it :/
17:41 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> and im glitching too much
17:41 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> oh well
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17:41 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> do u like pewdiepie
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17:42 <SugarWing> i give up
17:42 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> same
17:42 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> do you like pewdiepie?
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17:43 <SugarWing> hmm...
17:43 <SugarWing> neutral
17:43 <SugarWing> do you want to play other online games?
17:44 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> sure
17:44 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> like what
17:44 <SugarWing> dunno
17:44 <SugarWing> all i know is animal jam
17:45 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> i really dont play too many games
17:45 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> mostly a roleplay thing with my friends
17:45 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> its not dorky
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17:46 <Coco_Nut> Definitely doesn't sound it
17:47 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> is that sarcastic?
17:47 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> its hard to tell in chat rooms
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17:47 <Coco_Nut> It was, but in a jokey way I assure you
17:48 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> i know
17:48 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> but its fine
17:48 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> i am kinda dorky
17:48 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> but mostly akward
17:51 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> ....
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17:59 <Divide|Supporting> yaaaaay. split shift between 9 AM and 10 pm. The equivalent of working 11 hours.
18:00 <SugarWing> cool podcast :P
18:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: Should Starlight Be Redeemed? [ http://tinyurl.com/ohokd9q ]
18:05 <I_Ship_StarlightSparkle> for a while no, but slowly, and if she makes up for it, instead of throwing a pittyful "sorry" and actually doing something, then she could earn back her honor and redemption.
18:06 <Sour_Sweet> Raritea time https://derpiboo.ru/1032995
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18:12 <MarsToSirius> She kind of already was-ish
18:12 <MarsToSirius> And that poll was made beore the episode aired
18:19 <Pony_25986> /me looks around
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18:20 <MDP> sup
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18:21 * Socksies looks around
18:21 * Dash sees Socksies
18:21 <Dash> Haaaaiiii
18:22 <SugarWing> hi
18:22 <Dash> Ello
18:22 <Dash> How goes you?
18:22 <Socksies> I'm high.
18:23 <SugarWing> wut?why?
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18:33 <Socksies> !link socks
18:33 <DerpyBot> http://derpiboo.ru/582044
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18:36 <ArchPegasusMichael> !link https://derpibooru.org/1027303
18:36 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about blushing solo female featureless crotch oc:eclipse oc only (and 12 more)
18:36 <wobniaR> "Suggestive" "Featureless crotch" "All ages chat"
18:37 * ArchPegasusMichael hides
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18:47 <SgtPinkie> Featureless crotch doesn't sound too bad
18:48 <SgtPinkie> It /is/ featureless
18:48 <KooK> The house has been aired out, it's now 58 degrees in here
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18:50 <ArchPegasusMichael> johnsey: I have a suggestion for DerpyBot's new function - imperial/metric calc ;p
18:51 <ArchPegasusMichael> And °C/F
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18:54 <SugarWing> can i have an art question??
18:55 <Twilight_Shimmer> XD
18:55 <SugarWing> :P
18:55 <MDP> ?
18:55 <SugarWing> some hungarians who made pony pics (including me) created a deviantart group
18:56 <MDP> cool
18:56 <SugarWing> and we are wondering what our logo should be like?
18:56 <wobniaR> A pony
18:57 <SugarWing> haha
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18:57 <Twilight_Shimmer> an Alicorn version of Snowdrop?
18:57 <Coco_Nut> A Hungarian pony
18:58 <SugarWing> how should we do a hungarian pony?
18:58 <SugarWing> what would be the difference between it and other ponys?
18:59 <wobniaR> Usually hair style and cutie mark represenative of something that you would consider hungarian
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18:59 <Coco_Nut> I don't know enough about Hungarian culture.
18:59 <KooK> Happy little tree
18:59 <Coco_Nut> But please have it eating "Buda-paste"
18:59 <SugarWing> Xd
19:00 * wobniaR paints Sunset-Shimmer a beautiful landscape made of nothing but john cena
19:00 * Sunset-Shimmer cues the trumpets and music
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19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Cereal Velocity: "The Cutie Re-Mark", Parts I & II: Episode Followup [ http://tinyurl.com/qalo8by ]
19:01 * Twilight_Shimmer goes back in tme and prevents cena from ever becomming a wrestler, and instead places him on the path of a Genetic Scientis
19:01 <wobniaR> We just had an episode why changing the past is a bad idea
19:01 <Twilight_Shimmer> aahh much better
19:01 <wobniaR> You will destroy everything we love
19:01 <Twilight_Shimmer> the time loop also offically makes WQG cannon
19:02 <Twilight_Shimmer> err EQG
19:02 <wobniaR> EQG is still a spinoff
19:02 <Twilight_Shimmer> its still cannon
19:02 <ArchPegasusMichael> Boom.
19:03 * Socksies misses her friends
19:03 <Twilight_Shimmer> also i think that time travel scrolls gonna come back to haunt twi and glimmer later
19:04 <MDP> thatd be interesting
19:04 <MDP> cuiz we need a new villian now
19:05 <Twilight_Shimmer> that made Zekura into a badass
19:06 <MDP> yeah
19:09 <Twilight_Shimmer> i mean the Scroll of Time DID enter the time hole before it closed
19:09 <Twilight_Shimmer> so it could be anywhen
19:10 <MDP> yeah. makes you wonder what may have happened with the alternate timelines, nightmare moon did want that magic
19:10 <Twilight_Shimmer> eeyup
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19:11 <Twilight_Shimmer> heh
19:11 <Twilight_Shimmer> and stil yet all the villieans have been horny as the fanfic says
19:11 <Twilight_Shimmer> each having a horn and magic
19:12 <MDP> 0.0
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19:15 <MarsToSirius> How does it "officially" make EQG canon?
19:15 <Twilight_Shimmer> simple
19:16 <Twilight_Shimmer> at the end of friendship games twi mentioned time loping/traveling
19:16 <Twilight_Shimmer> the season finale was about time travel/looping
19:16 <MarsToSirius> That just means time travel is possible in both canons. It doesn't make it officially canon in the show.
19:17 <MarsToSirius> It doesn't make EQG canon*
19:18 <Twilight_Shimmer> besides from what i have heard the writers have also stated its cannnon
19:18 <Twilight_Shimmer> :)
19:18 <MarsToSirius> Not as far as I know. They just reflect that it's not an impossibility.
19:19 <MarsToSirius> The show never references EqG and when incidental characters come forth (Flash Sentry, for one) important characters related to them take absolutely no notice.
19:19 <Twilight_Shimmer> i ersonally love the idea of it as cannon XD
19:19 <MarsToSirius> I think it creates too much of a mess.
19:19 <MDP> consittering the end of friendship games directly mentions the finale.. its cnnon
19:20 <MarsToSirius> It's like when they did the Power Ponies episode
19:20 <MarsToSirius> Uh, how?
19:20 <Twilight_Shimmer> btw MDP http://www.fimfiction.net/story/268566/all-our-villains-are-horny
19:20 <Divide|Supporting> Haaaaaaaaaaaate.
19:20 <Twilight_Shimmer> the story is SFW
19:20 <Twilight_Shimmer> aka Safe For Woona
19:21 <Twilight_Shimmer> on another note i look forward to EQG4
19:21 <MDP> ditto
19:22 <SugarWing> yup
19:22 <MDP> sup divide
19:22 <SugarWing> huh?
19:23 <Divide|Supporting> Eh.
19:24 <Divide|Supporting> Today is terribad. Lots of three-computer cleanups, VOIP failures, security systems which refuse to work with our stuff, et cetera.
19:24 <Divide|Supporting> I have a particularly long break now which is better described as 'oh hi, split shift'.
19:25 <MDP> yup
19:26 <Divide|Supporting> And that's without getting into customers I want to punch in the face, like the one who says, 'MY INTERNET IS DOWN' when the issue is 'the website you have as your home page has the connectivity of a stalk of celery'.
19:26 <Sunset-Shimmer> I DO have one thing to say about the EQG/FiM canon thing...and that's Mccarthys own tweet on it: https://twitter.com/MMeghanMcCarthy/status/372926669180264448
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19:27 <MDP> ive pretty much accepted that serving people in a business environment is the bane my existance
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19:31 <DerpDerpowski> hi
19:31 <MDP> mew
19:31 <MarsToSirius> o3o
19:32 <DerpDerpowski> That's the end of grinding for this month
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19:35 <DARK> hello =)
19:35 <DerpDerpowski> hi
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19:37 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.
19:37 <MDP> hey
19:37 <Tirek> Greetings.
19:37 <Tirek> And salutations.
19:37 <Tirek> And possibly dark mutations.
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19:39 <Thelema5> What's new?
19:39 <MDP> the hiatus boredom
19:40 <Thelema5> So soon?
19:40 <Tirek> Thanksgiving's 5 hour shift, leaving two and a half hours early on Friday, and not having work on Saturday is going to make my transition back to standard work-load excrutiating.
19:40 <DerpDerpowski> end of grinding
19:40 <Tirek> But I got a little mini vacation, so I'm happy for a change.
19:40 <Schism> Whew. You and I have different situations, Tirek.
19:40 <Schism> The last two days have been outstanding in regards to output.
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19:41 <Schism> And by outstanding, I mean that I hate everything and everyone responsible therefor.
19:41 <Tirek> Sorry for your terrible week.
19:42 <Schism> Oh, the week's not terribad, just these past two or three days.
19:42 <Tirek> Ah.
19:42 <Tirek> I've gotten to relax and play some games again.
19:42 <Tirek> Been a while since I had the motivation to dedicate to such things.
19:42 <Thelema5> Nice!
19:42 <Tirek> Allow me to welcome you to my electrical engineering nightmare: http://i.imgur.com/GrB6BNd.png
19:43 <Schism> Let's start with the Android virus which hit a customer out of the blue, and then move onto the number of printers I've dealt with, followed by the man who refused to learn how to print pages himself, and then the one who somehow connected his printer through an Ethernet-USB Cable...
19:43 <Tirek> Breaker switches. Breaker switches everywhere.
19:43 <Tirek> Hm.
19:43 <MarsToSirius> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2oyNYzbHD3A/VloDj1PV8qI/AAAAAAAAO1M/fYOc6cQ4P8w/s640/vlcsnap-2015-11-28-13h42m04s563.png Princess Purple Smart doesn't get how Venn diagrams work.
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19:44 <Schism> Tirek: And the wide and vast array of customers connected through VOIP systems who DON'T INFORM ME THEREOF.
19:44 <MarsToSirius> Unless someone can glean more meaning out of that.
19:44 <Schism> No, that's not a Venn diagram, that's just... things.
19:44 <Schism> Though maybe it's not meant to be.
19:44 <Thelema5> MarsToSirius, it's funny, I was just thinking the same thing about the diagram. Doesn't make much sense.
19:45 <MarsToSirius> Cause I was kinda thinking "OK, Apple Bloom's kind of been shown to be a decent singer, Scootaloo's the definite odd one out there, that makes sense... but a wing and a lightning bolt for Scootaloo and Sweetie Belle? And does Sweetie Belle not feel love? How does Scootaloo...?"
19:46 <Schism> I think we can agree that Scootaloo can't sing, though.
19:46 <Thelema5> Right
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19:47 <Schism> Then again, maybe Twilight just has absolutely no idea what she's talking about. And if I don't mistake it, that scene literally had Twilight saying, 'sometimes, it makes no sense' or something.
19:49 <wobniaR> If it doesn't make sense, we must science it at once
19:49 <MarsToSirius> "Sometimes it makes no sense" is a rather odd thing to make a lecture about
19:49 <MarsToSirius> It's like presenting the Higgs boson by saying "Well, we know it exists, but uh... we have no clue how it works!"
19:49 <MarsToSirius> And then walking out
19:49 <wobniaR> Doesn't science do that sometimes?
19:49 <MDP> scoots can sing... but(shameless plug: http://artponymdp.deviantart.com/art/Commission-New-Friends-DT-and-Scoots-574625352) she can be cute
19:49 <wobniaR> We know this thing works, how exactly we can't explain yet but it does
19:50 <MarsToSirius> They don't frontload the lecture with *shrug*
19:50 <wobniaR> She can sing
19:50 <Schism> No, they frontload it with 'we're looking up how this makes sense'.
19:58 <Schism> Wow, I'm trying to figure out what makes an Irish Brogue and I've gone through at least ten different accents so far.
20:00 <Schism> I might, later on, have to - and I'm serious - create a stream where folks ask me to do accents.
20:01 <Thelema5> I'd watch
20:01 <Schism> What accent would you request?
20:01 <Thelema5> Cantonese
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20:01 <Thelema5> :p
20:02 <Schism> Yeah, no.
20:02 <Thelema5> Mandarin?
20:02 <Schism> No, it's just... I haven't heard enough of that to pull it off, and I only speak English.
20:03 <Schism> At least, not enough to pull it off convincingly.
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20:04 <Thelema5> XD
20:04 <Thelema5> How about Southern American?
20:04 <Schism> I can throw you a German, French, Irish, eastern Canadian, Mid-Atlantic, Spanish, Texan...
20:05 <Schism> ... no, I can't throw a continent at you. ... actually, I probably could.
20:06 <Firestar> Is he Goku?
20:07 <Schism> Yanno, I can also Russian. (This is, of course, proper syntax.)
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20:17 <Schism> I can do a lot of accents, but some... I haven't heard enough of to actually portray, not beyond an enormously racist portrayal.
20:17 <Thelema5> :P
20:18 <Schism> Pretty good at a mid-Atlantic accent, though...
20:18 <Schism> If anyone desires, at any point, for me to perform something in a mid-Atlantic accent... well, I might be willing to do so in about 7 hours.
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20:21 <Thelema5> I'll check back.
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20:24 <Thelema5> Ah ha ha, this guy is awesome
20:24 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/iXuc7SAyk2s
20:24 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
20:24 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Weather map goes crazy live on the air
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20:25 <Schism> Thelema5: I'll provide a dramatic reading for you of ... any SFW fic you desire. Even Eye of Argon.
20:25 <Thelema5> Awesome.
20:26 <Schism> 20 minutes thereof.
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20:26 <Schism> That having been said, if you choose one which is /particularly/ bad...
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20:27 <Schism> I make no promises about stray giggles, or splorts.
20:27 <Thelema5> I'll start finding a good candidate.
20:27 <Schism> Bear in mind, this'll be at about 10:30 EST.
20:27 <Schism> The other half of my shift starts in an hour thirty.
20:28 <Thelema5> Perfect.
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20:33 <Oshoku_Darkness> Hello
20:33 * MarsToSirius waves at Oshoku_Darkness.
20:33 <Thelema5> Hello! Welcome to a chat.
20:33 <Oshoku_Darkness> Thank you, hows it going?
20:34 <Thelema5> Pretty well.
20:34 <Thelema5> Just hanging out.
20:34 <Thelema5> Did you enjoy the season 5 finale?
20:35 <Oshoku_Darkness> Cool I just got done watching the final episode to season 5
20:36 <Thelema5> Did you enjoy it?
20:36 <Oshoku_Darkness> It was awesome X3
20:37 <Sunset-Shimmer> It was - despite all the little flaws and niggles, and the rushed flashpoint of starlights redemption, it was a really fun slice of adventure
20:38 <Sunset-Shimmer> Time travel eps for most shows tend to be tricky beasts generally though
20:38 <Oshoku_Darkness> I loved it regardless
20:39 <Sunset-Shimmer> Absolutely - it's sad I saw a few tweets and comments stating they were done now that starlight was likely showing up as a part timer for season 6, but whatever...I really liked it, and have to commend Josh Haber for really having some good writings this year
20:39 <Thelema5> I thought it was a lot of fun.
20:40 <Sunset-Shimmer> And those who were expecting sunset to appear really don't get that there's a solid divide between the franchises. XD At least at the current time
20:40 <Oshoku_Darkness> I'm curious if there'll be a season 6
20:40 <Sunset-Shimmer> It's being made
20:40 <Sunset-Shimmer> Absolutely confirmed
20:40 <Thelema5> Were there people expecting Sunset to appear?
20:40 <Sunset-Shimmer> Yep
20:41 <Thelema5> That's new to me.
20:41 <Sunset-Shimmer> I saw many reactors disappointed about it somewhat. XD
20:41 <Sunset-Shimmer> I think that speaks volumes about her as a character though
20:41 <Thelema5> Season 6, yes- definately happening. Jaysen Thessien, however, seems to be diverting his attention to the film
20:41 <Oshoku_Darkness> Oh well then sweet, I came here looking for closure because I thought the franchise was done for.
20:42 <Sunset-Shimmer> He's been shipped off to the Allspark Hasbro movie studios for it, yesh
20:42 <Thelema5> I personally feel that season 6 will be the last of G4, and that the film will be a bridge to the new generation.
20:42 <Thelema5> I have no reason to suspect this, though.
20:42 <Sunset-Shimmer> Everyone says that each season. :P
20:43 <Sunset-Shimmer> I don't make a call on that, I just enjoy the ride until the fat lady says its over
20:43 <Thelema5> It's just a feeling. I think it's time for a reboot of the franchise- the kids who grew up on the first seasons are grown out of the demographic now...
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20:43 <wobniaR> I'm not
20:44 <Thelema5> So they'll need to freshen things up a bit.
20:44 <Sunset-Shimmer> Thelema5: They don't have to worry about retaining, just the acquiring of new kids watching
20:44 <Thelema5> Exactly.
20:44 <Sunset-Shimmer> so either situation works
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20:44 <Sunset-Shimmer> nothing NEEDS to change, technically
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20:45 <Sunset-Shimmer> But certainly the idea of a fresh approach is valid
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20:45 <wobniaR> CMC for new mane 6
20:45 <wobniaR> Do eettt
20:45 <Thelema5> Historically the show has been revamped every 4-5 years, no?
20:45 <Oshoku_Darkness> Your a CMC :3
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20:46 <wobniaR> Shh
20:46 <PostNinja> glimmer's heel turn was so fast that it made trixie dizzy though
20:46 <Sunset-Shimmer> Well, they didn't want to leave it ambiguous, I guess...and there wasn't time to expand much
20:47 <Sunset-Shimmer> for the sake of the kids watching, you gotta make that point absolutely crystal.
20:47 <wobniaR> Curse the 16 minutes of commercials required for television broadcast
20:47 <Sunset-Shimmer> sometimes it works, soooometimes it doesn't
20:47 <wobniaR> Oh wait that's the beat part
20:47 <wobniaR> Best*
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20:47 <aqualycool22> Cutiemark Champion. <U> <1> Creature - Warrior. Vigilance. Haste. Deathtouch. Cutiemark Crusader gets +2/+2 for each Warrior on the battlefield. 3/3.
20:47 <Oshoku_Darkness> Scootaloo is best CMC
20:47 <aqualycool22> .D.
20:47 <Sunset-Shimmer> What?
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20:48 <aqualycool22> It's a Magic card!
20:48 <aqualycool22> .3.
20:48 <aqualycool22> It's not real.
20:48 <Thelema5> I think it's a CCG reference
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20:48 <aqualycool22> But it would be cool.
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20:49 <PostNinja> it is also funny how glimmer is actually not as tall as twilight, and she feels much younger and less mature from the start of the season
20:49 <Oshoku_Darkness> Wait do we do shipping in here?
20:49 <wobniaR> I ship bloomberg & the tree of harmony
20:49 <Sunset-Shimmer> Shipping is a fun little pasttime here sometimes
20:49 <Oshoku_Darkness> I ship the map and the tree of harmony
20:49 <Sunset-Shimmer> xD
20:50 * Sunset-Shimmer is all about the SunLight
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20:50 <wobniaR> Shipping nerds
20:51 <PostNinja> the amount of twilight x glimmer ships in fimfiction will probably soon flood the place
20:51 <Oshoku_Darkness> Shrek is love Shrek is life
20:51 <PostNinja> if something, this season finale probably inspired more fanfics than last three season finales combined
20:52 <Thelema5> Likely
20:52 <Sunset-Shimmer> Considering the nature of the content, I'd not be surprised
20:52 <Thelema5> I expect about 500 fics explaining how Dash got that metal wing
20:53 <PostNinja> that has been the theme of the whole season really, character pieces, and canon versions of most popular fanfiction tropes
20:53 <Sunset-Shimmer> Maud needs to be the fandom one punch pony
20:53 <wobniaR> I'm sick of the alternate universe fan art already
20:53 * aqualycool22 Holds up a little Maud Pie.
20:53 <Sunset-Shimmer> Oh hush, wobniaR. xD
20:53 <wobniaR> U
20:53 * aqualycool22 "Your hoof is a strong equivelant to a rock..."
20:53 * aqualycool22 Tosses the small Maud Pie in his sink.
20:53 * Electron ( 'ω')
20:53 <PostNinja> Dark dystopian future of warn torn equestria? Done. Changeling invasion future? Done. Eternal Night, that turned out not to be an ice age after all? Done
20:54 * Thelema5 writes an alternate wobniaR who LURVS alternate universe fan art because reasons
20:54 <Thelema5> :p
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20:54 <Oshoku_Darkness> I grossly expect Twilight x Filly Dash cause you know this wrold is terribal
20:54 <Sunset-Shimmer> zecora is pretty awesome
20:54 <Sunset-Shimmer> I loved her as a tribal warrior leader, lol
20:54 <PostNinja> if anything, the dark futures make all those fanfics which do the same thing but go completely overboard look silly in comparison
20:55 <Oshoku_Darkness> lol
20:55 <wobniaR> Because they always were
20:55 <Sunset-Shimmer> Well, to be fair...that's the point of them
20:55 <Sunset-Shimmer> taking the concept and just going nuts with it. :P
20:56 <PostNinja> also, Nightmare Moon was actually capable of running a state and inspire actual loyalty, and even had her castle of doom open to tourism at times, who knew
20:56 <matttheshadowman> More like this ultimately the show is about friendship and not about post-apocalyptic futures and non-remptions.
20:56 <wobniaR> ^
20:57 <matttheshadowman> *non-redemptions
20:57 <wobniaR> Because nmm didn't want to destroy equestria, she was just mad jealous and angry at her sister
20:57 <MarsToSirius> I do kinda agree, this was really cool to see but I am kinda afraid that fans are gonna take it too far and now it'll be all they want to see from now on
20:57 <matttheshadowman> MarsToSirius You mean like when we saw Twilight vs Tirek?
20:57 <MarsToSirius> yes and no
20:57 <Oshoku_Darkness> I just wanna see the CMC actually do what their cutie marks say -_-
20:58 <wobniaR> Yeah what's slice of life? Give me violence and blood and grimdark space marine pony future
20:58 <MarsToSirius> because it'll now drape over to Starlight's situation and they'll abjectly refuse to accept her redemption and want her "destroyed", etc
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20:58 <Thelema5> I have to wonder how many little kids will actually know enough backstory to the show for the finale to make any sense.
20:58 <Oshoku_Darkness> My man boob itches
20:58 <PostNinja> Does Celestia open her castle for tours? Haven't seen any.
20:58 <matttheshadowman> I think you have to take these "future" events much like how you would the Anthology of Interest episodes of Futurama, What if? scenerios that would never happe in canon with the show proper
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20:59 <Sunset-Shimmer> They're plausible mistake pasts and presents - they happened and didn't happen all at once
20:59 <Sunset-Shimmer> but the status quo, mostly, prevails
21:00 <MarsToSirius> As long as the Mane 6 stick together, they'll avoid the perilous future that could await them
21:00 <MarsToSirius> i.e. there is still actual danger in the world ahead of them
21:00 <PostNinja> And one guy at tv tropes did already throw around a theory that all of those alternate futures didn't cease to exist, Twilight and Spike just vanished from them, I'm sure many fics will run with that idea.
21:00 <matttheshadowman> Well you'd imagine the uproar had they rewritten the events explained in The Cutie Mark Chronicles
21:00 <Oshoku_Darkness> OMG new ship!
21:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: 4DE Plushies Pop Up On Amazon - Free Shipping on Orders Over $35 [ http://tinyurl.com/zcp292y ]
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21:01 <MarsToSirius> "didn't cease to exist"... I don't think they really get how time travel works
21:01 <matttheshadowman> Yeah this was time travel, not universe hopping
21:01 <Thelema5> Has anypony ever actually received anything from 4DE?
21:01 <MarsToSirius> Yeah, the plushies have actually gone out
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21:02 <Oshoku_Darkness> Apprently people are shipping Filly Fluttershy and Filly Rainbow Dash
21:02 <Thrackerzod> They've gone out Thelema5
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21:02 <Thelema5> Wow.
21:02 <Thelema5> I'm shocked.
21:02 <wobniaR> If you ordered from 4de directly that is
21:02 <MarsToSirius> People've been doing that for like four years
21:03 <PostNinja> and we did also see screw ball or whatever her name was in Discord's future, I got a chuckle out of that.
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21:04 <Oshoku_Darkness> Also I was right people are shipping Grown Twilight with Filly Rainbow dash because of the season final
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21:05 <Tirek> What horrible curse befell the fandom this time?
21:05 <wobniaR> Shippers gonna ship, don't go looking for the material
21:05 <wobniaR> The ability to find anything on the internet is a blessing and a curse
21:06 <PostNinja> well, it is your hand that types the google search words
21:10 <Oshoku_Darkness> I'm open to any ships really, I'm not one to judge
21:11 <Sunset-Shimmer> Ships are just for fun anyway, most of them will never be canon...but that doesn't stop me from staying firmly on the HMS SunLight! XD
21:11 <Tirek> Initiating ice berg torpedos.
21:12 <SgtPinkie> A character can get married to a female, and people will still ship them with their male best friend
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21:14 <SgtPinkie> A character can stand next to a random bystander, and guess what, that means they're in love apparently
21:14 <SgtPinkie> My point is: shipping's weird
21:14 <Sunset-Shimmer> Hey, it's worked for lyrabon
21:14 <Sunset-Shimmer> :P
21:14 <wobniaR> People live out their romantic fantasies through fictional characters
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21:15 <wobniaR> It's normal
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21:15 <SgtPinkie> Hey, no. Canonically, they're just /really/ /good/ friends.
21:15 <SgtPinkie> :P
21:16 <Sunset-Shimmer> :P
21:16 <MarsToSirius> Just like Lyra and Bon-Bon are
21:16 <MarsToSirius> B E S T F R I E N D S
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21:17 <Sunset-Shimmer> Octavia Bedroom eyed Vinyl during the dying seconds of the song.
21:17 <Sunset-Shimmer> those were totally bedroom eyes
21:18 <wobniaR> Best part about shipping is you can believe what you want to believe
21:18 <wobniaR> Even after the ship is sunk by canon, you can still sail it
21:18 <MarsToSirius> And I believe that I am right
21:18 <MarsToSirius> :V
21:18 <Sunset-Shimmer> You always believe you're right
21:18 <Sunset-Shimmer> even when you're wrong! :3
21:18 <MarsToSirius> o3o
21:19 <wobniaR> Except when your opinion is wrong
21:19 <Thelema5> I think people just want their favorite fictional characters to be happy with a very-special somepony
21:19 <Sunset-Shimmer> Yesh
21:20 <SgtPinkie> I guess
21:20 * Twilight_Shimmer pokes her head out of Sunset-Shimmer mane
21:20 <Sunset-Shimmer> it's the same with any fandom - the Ace attorney fans have many, many ideas of shipping
21:21 <Sunset-Shimmer> Crazy bunch. xD
21:21 <wobniaR> Well the ace attorney series is already crazy, it's murder case after murder case
21:21 <wobniaR> Why can't we have a nice parking violation case?
21:21 <Twilight_Shimmer> not as exciting
21:22 <Sunset-Shimmer> How would that even be worth it :P
21:22 <wobniaR> True
21:22 <Twilight_Shimmer> hehehe
21:22 * Sunset-Shimmer snugglies Twilight_Shimmer
21:22 <wobniaR> Or a company settlement case
21:22 <Twilight_Shimmer> Discord as a prosicuting atterny
21:22 <wobniaR> It would probably get phoenix wright more money than he gets from murder cases
21:22 <Sunset-Shimmer> Pfffft
21:22 * Twilight_Shimmer snuggles the Sunset-Shimmer back
21:22 <Sunset-Shimmer> Phoenix has problems getting paid, period
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21:22 <wobniaR> Exactly
21:23 <PostNinja> phoenix is not a very good lawyer, period xD
21:23 <Sunset-Shimmer> Well, in-universe, he is. XD
21:23 <wobniaR> Yeah he's too honest and nice
21:23 <Sunset-Shimmer> Reality...yeah, wouldn't fly
21:23 <wobniaR> Real lawyers lie to make the big bucks
21:23 <Twilight_Shimmer> ironic
21:23 <wobniaR> Cause law school usually leaves you in a huge amount of debt
21:24 <Twilight_Shimmer> when in corent they are "sworn to tell the truth"
21:24 <Twilight_Shimmer> err court
21:24 <wobniaR> Welcome to the American judicial system
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21:25 <Twilight_Shimmer> "Do you swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth while lying through your teeth so help you god?"
21:25 <PostNinja> well, all stories make jumps of logic to tell a better story. This season's finale is a good example. Time travel doesn't really make sense, no matter how much you poke it
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21:25 <Twilight_Shimmer> i found Zekuras lines kinda say
21:25 <Twilight_Shimmer> err sad
21:26 <wobniaR> Cause they were
21:26 <Twilight_Shimmer> "in truth we are the ones who should not be"
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21:26 <PostNinja> there are only so many things you can say in rhyme
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21:27 <Twilight_Shimmer> true
21:27 <wobniaR> A world where everyone is stalked by changelings and either imprisoned or worse sucks
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21:27 <Twilight_Shimmer> despite that I STILL have a soft spot for em
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21:28 <SabSparrow> I'd have liked to see one world where all the villains were, I think... That'd have made more sense, right?
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21:28 <Sunset-Shimmer> I reckon that was the wasteland. :P
21:28 <PostNinja> most likely
21:28 <SabSparrow> I guess
21:28 <Twilight_Shimmer> question
21:29 <Valiant> Wasteland was weird.
21:29 <Valiant> Maybe that's from... THE SEASON SIX VILLIAN
21:29 <Valiant> ooooOoooOoooo
21:29 <Twilight_Shimmer> had twi shown chrissy or NMM the Wasterland how do you think theyd react
21:29 <Valiant> "Wasn't my fault."
21:29 <Twilight_Shimmer> XD
21:29 <Valiant> Nightmare Moons reality was a paradise >.>
21:29 <SabSparrow> Can't be, it was the present
21:29 <PostNinja> and one villain ruling doesn't mean that the others wouldn't exist. Changelings just would have no reason to come to Chaos Land, nor would Sombra really see much of a point to invade a ruined Equestria filled with bugs
21:29 <Sunset-Shimmer> Of course it was, she pretty much combined the sun and the moon
21:29 <Sunset-Shimmer> so everything could live!
21:30 <wobniaR> Eternal night isn't so bad when you consider the other possibilities
21:30 <Valiant> In that canon Luna probably killed Chryssi and Sombra 'cause she's badass.
21:30 <Valiant> oh and discord, all dead, thEY ALL GET REKT
21:30 <PostNinja> well, Discord being freed from his statue was a pure coincidence
21:31 <Sunset-Shimmer> I loved how NMM just lasered Timberwolves to death
21:31 <Sunset-Shimmer> ' yeah, get outta my face. '
21:31 <wobniaR> They're just skrubby animated pieces of wood
21:31 <Sunset-Shimmer> x3
21:31 <SabSparrow> Right, Discord was freed in part because the elements became linked with the mane6
21:31 <Valiant> I don't know why Twilight was so scared of them, she had lasers too.
21:32 <wobniaR> She was outta magic
21:32 <Twilight_Shimmer> the funny thing is time travel can still come back later on
21:32 <Valiant> The magic fights between unicorns are
21:32 <Valiant> oh right
21:32 <Valiant> yeah I forgot
21:32 <Valiant> Anyway unicorn fights are /really/ cool now.
21:32 <Twilight_Shimmer> becasue we dont know where or wehn that scroll vanished to
21:32 <Valiant> PEW PEW PEW PEW
21:32 <wobniaR> Star swirls spell is gone, so most likely not
21:32 <Sunset-Shimmer> I DID like how starlight managed to get a shot off at twi even when she was visibly exhausted
21:32 <Valiant> Starlight owns I love her.
21:32 <PostNinja> she is the new Sunset
21:32 <SabSparrow> Perhaps a villain will come from past or future in the next season...
21:32 <Twilight_Shimmer> BLASPAMHY
21:33 <Valiant> Applejack's pragmatic "Well sure she might be kinda evil but she's REALLY POWERFUL so let's use her" owned.
21:33 <Sunset-Shimmer> I saw somebody literally declare they would only watch EG after this episode
21:33 <Valiant> Some people are whining but no, it was a good smart move.
21:33 <SabSparrow> A villain who found the scroll, I mean
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21:33 <Valiant> She's like, potentially more powerful than Twilight.
21:33 <wobniaR> Better than letting starlight run wild, or imprisoning her
21:33 <Valiant> Keep her close!
21:33 <PostNinja> well, Glimmer reedemed was a plot point that you either love or hate
21:33 <Sunset-Shimmer> It's a 50/50 thing at the moment
21:33 <Valiant> Using ~friendship~ to redeem her was a little cheesy but man, it's MLP.
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21:34 <SilverString> yooo
21:34 <Valiant> Destroying the world over friendship and being redeemed over it is par for the course.
21:34 <Sunset-Shimmer> If you complained at the friendship element, you still don't get the show. :P
21:34 <wobniaR> Whoever's doing the season 6 opening has their work cut out for them
21:34 <Sunset-Shimmer> thats basically it
21:34 <PostNinja> it was rushed, but much like with alicorn Twilight, it might turn out that the show wasn't RUINED FOREVER like so many people yelled back then
21:34 <Sour_Sweet> They should have troller her. "Well Glimmer, we made decision to send you to the moon, but only for the next thousand years"
21:34 <Valiant> I have thus far involved every single plot point in the finales and intros lol.
21:34 <Sunset-Shimmer> people still hate twilicorn, of course, but c'est le vie
21:34 <Sunset-Shimmer> *some people
21:34 <wobniaR> Yes cause moon imprisonment worked so well
21:34 <Valiant> Alicorn Twilight? Yes. Starlight good and evil? Yes.
21:34 <Valiant> Giant death castle? Oh my yes. THE BOX? Yes.
21:35 <Sunset-Shimmer> lol
21:35 * Valiant suddenly goes all derpy-eyed and starts shaking Sunset-Shimmer!
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21:35 <Valiant> WHAT'SINTHEBOX
21:35 <SabSparrow> I still miss Golden Oak Library, but I imagine everyone does
21:35 <PostNinja> Moon has her castle open for tourism, that was funny to me
21:35 <Sunset-Shimmer> She's not afraid to flaunt
21:35 <aqualycool22> Tirek doesn't.
21:35 <Sunset-Shimmer> she's a classy villain
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21:36 <Valiant> She loves flaunting.
21:36 <Oshoku_Darkness> Flanks
21:36 <Sunset-Shimmer> Her smug smile as she sat on the throne owned
21:36 <Valiant> I love her so much which is why I keep saying that reality was paradise.
21:36 <Valiant> TWILIGHT YOU HAD THE BEST ONE.
21:36 * Valiant angrily writes fanfiction.
21:36 <SgtPinkie> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hJBL1SePzY
21:36 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about WHAT'S IN THE BOX?!
21:36 * SilverString angrily reads that fanfiction
21:37 <PostNinja> "and over there is the throne hall of our immortal, eternal overlord who rules over us and controls the skies, now to see the tapestries..."
21:37 <Tirek> That tree has lived far too long.
21:37 <Tirek> I put it out of it's misery.
21:37 <wobniaR> And the beehive
21:37 <Tirek> I hate bees.
21:37 <Tirek> Remember when I hallucinated about one?
21:37 <Tirek> Yeah.
21:38 <PostNinja> Tirek's downfall was that he messed up with Twilight's books. No one does that
21:38 <Tirek> They weren't her books, really.
21:38 <MarsToSirius> Press F to Pay Respects
21:38 <wobniaR> F
21:38 <Tirek> They belonged to the town.
21:38 <Tirek> And no one reads anyway.
21:38 <Tirek> They're tiny horses.
21:38 <Tirek> Neigh they say to books.
21:39 <SgtPinkie> Oh, also, everyone, did you hear that Gak is back? Along with TruMoo, Secret butt fun, and...... uh.....
21:39 <MarsToSirius> O L D M E M E B O Y S
21:39 <SgtPinkie> Other commercial reference
21:39 <Tirek> Old memes?
21:39 <PostNinja> also, all other villains built empires, ruled lands...Tirek just kept blowing up more trees, he seems to really hate them.
21:39 <MarsToSirius> Yeah... Gak, 20% cooler, etc
21:40 <Sunset-Shimmer> I love how they kept that going
21:40 <wobniaR> Trees have bees
21:40 <wobniaR> Must destroy them all
21:40 <Sunset-Shimmer> 'Well, he blew up crap in the other ep, lets keep this!'
21:40 <Tirek> If we're going to do old memes, then let me bring back this classic: http://lemondemon.bandcamp.com/track/the-ultimate-showdown-of-ultimate-destiny
21:40 <Oshoku_Darkness> Plots
21:40 <SilverString> !plot
21:40 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
21:41 <Divide|Supporting> *wigglewiggle*
21:41 <SgtPinkie> wobniaR: why would you destroy barry bee benson he's only from the most buzzmazing mov-bee ever bee movie. i don't understand how this was ever a meme
21:42 <SgtPinkie> i'm pretty sure i'm doing it wrong
21:42 <MarsToSirius> I imagine they were trying to make another Shrek and it just didn't really fire
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21:42 <SilverString> *wigglewiggle*
21:43 <PostNinja> and the wasteland future was probably just all villains of the show having the ultimade showdown of ultimate villainy
21:43 <Oshoku_Darkness> *Boops a plot*
21:43 <PostNinja> I'm sure there will be an youtube video about it in a month
21:43 <Tirek> NO GOOD GUYS, JUST BAD GUYS AND EXPLOSIONS AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE
21:43 <Oshoku_Darkness> *Boops Fluttershys plot*
21:44 <Tirek> And only one will survive, but you won't live to see, this is the ultimate showdown of ultimate villainy.
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21:45 <PostNinja> either that or the villain of the next season will be Colttulhu, the eater of worlds
21:45 <Tirek> I'm predicting Grogar's return first.
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21:45 <Tirek> The Goat Necromancer's gotta show up some time.
21:45 <Tirek> In whatever incarnation they decide to make of him.
21:46 <SgtPinkie> Really, I don't get why NMM is considered a villain
21:47 <PostNinja> at least they didn't try to outdo the amount of explosions and lasers from the last finale, and took entirely different route. There was so much fanfiction fuel thrown to our faces that no one noticed how mild twilight's and glimmer's duel was in comparison
21:47 <Tirek> I still haven't seen the episode.
21:47 <MarsToSirius> I really did like that
21:47 <Tirek> I probably won't.
21:48 <Electron> This finale is something.
21:48 <SgtPinkie> Calling it: they're saving the explosions and lasers for the movie
21:48 <Electron> It shows that just ONE unicorn can screw the future and every pony's life. D:
21:48 <SilverString> exactly
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21:49 <PostNinja> and I'm sure there will be furious flamewars between those who think that NMM is the best ruler, and those who think she is a power crazed alter-ego of Luna
21:51 <wobniaR> I'll be sure to stay away from those
21:52 <Sour_Sweet> Electron: Don't get racist here. Poor unicorns
21:54 <PostNinja> I still would like to know is Glimmer older or younger than Twilight though
21:55 <Sour_Sweet> I'd like to know how old Twili is in general 6_9
21:55 <PostNinja> she is not as tall as Twilight, but her voice sounds more mature
21:55 <Sour_Sweet> Imagine all the akward things fanfics / drawings / head canons
21:56 <SilverString> I'd like to know how old Granny Smith is
21:56 <Sour_Sweet> Imagine Twili is a minor *horse noises*
21:57 <Sour_Sweet> EqG would somewhat suggest that (keeping in mind that ages are all over the place in EqG anyway)
21:57 <PostNinja> teenager? I think that is the best we are going to get
21:57 <Electron> That's not me, that is the finale doing, Sour_Sweet. ( ._.)
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21:58 <Sour_Sweet> But silly that's not how magic works. You need a talent for magic to do such things. Regular old unicorns can't do that
21:59 <Sour_Sweet> Also the reason Celestia recruits every little poor filly for her school and own needs
21:59 <Sour_Sweet> She sure doesn't want to share that magic with the world
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21:59 <Electron> Bad things happen anyway, Sour_Sweet. :(
22:00 <Electron> That Twi's line about "we stuck in this loop forever" was scary.
22:00 <PostNinja> glimmer has just as much magical potential as Twilight does, who is a once a generation prodigy, I'm surprised she wasn't sent to magic school
22:00 <Sour_Sweet> Yeah because Celestia is a bad ruler. *waves The New Lunar Republic flag*
22:00 * Sunset-Shimmer snerks
22:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: GIANT Drawfriend Stuff #1727 - EPIC PONY BATTLE [ http://tinyurl.com/zcsssvk ]
22:01 <SilverString> Maybe Celestia using her magic is the reason Nightmare Moon exists in the first place.... Celestia is just afraid that she'll hurt more ponies if she uses her magic again
22:01 <Electron> We didn't see Luna ruler.
22:01 <Electron> What is Luna ruler would be even worse?
22:01 <Electron> *if
22:01 <Sour_Sweet> Impossible
22:01 * SilverString 's quilt has a sunbutt cm on it
22:02 <Sunset-Shimmer> She's the younger sister - it's hard to imagine her having the same wisdoms as celestia
22:02 <Sunset-Shimmer> She has plenty, for sure, but she's not her sister.
22:02 <Sour_Sweet> They're both over a thousand years old hehe
22:02 * Sour_Sweet also is just trolling
22:02 * Sour_Sweet ... because Luna is best pony
22:03 * SilverString looks at Sour_Sweet
22:03 <SabSparrow> Perhaps, but Luna didn't have much of an opportunity to learn how to become a better and wiser ruler while imprisoned on the moon
22:04 <SabSparrow> Celestia had a thousand extra years to learn that from experience
22:05 <Electron> I'm just saying that Equestria is a dangerous place because of... *Drums*... magic.
22:06 <PostNinja> anything that can make laws of physics roll over and play dead on command is dangerous
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22:07 <Electron> Indeed.
22:07 <SilverString> hmmhnn
22:07 <PostNinja> although Bearded should really have learned not leave his spells of cosmic power laying all around the place
22:07 <Sour_Sweet> We don't need magic for a dangerous world though. Our's isn't that much better. Intelligent beings always find a way to screw up every utopia
22:08 <Sour_Sweet> The spell was probably stolen
22:08 <Electron> Indeed. x2
22:08 <Sour_Sweet> I'd imagine there is more coming on that topic
22:08 <Sour_Sweet> *caugh* Movie or S6 start *caugh*
22:09 <SilverString> You okay Sour?
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22:09 <SilverString> you sound a little horse
22:09 <PostNinja> also, I think Twilight could really use a guard or two in that castle. Chrysalis could camp in it for weeks without being noticed
22:09 <Gladiolus> YEah that was my immediate comment.
22:09 <Gladiolus> "You didn't lock the door?"
22:09 <Sunset-Shimmer> She's probably never seen need for it
22:10 <Sunset-Shimmer> Ponyville has always been a safe place, she's likely never even thought about it
22:10 <Electron> The Bearded could be just an original character of Celestia and Luna, when they were practicing in real powerful magic.
22:10 <Sunset-Shimmer> at least casually.
22:10 <SabSparrow> Oh my, my first really long hiatus is coming up... I've only been a fan for a year and a bit
22:10 <FloppyChiptunes> Twilight talking to Pinkie in 05x22: "Time travel is not something to be messed with!"
22:10 <Electron> Welcome to the club.
22:10 <FloppyChiptunes> ;D
22:11 <FloppyChiptunes> In that same scene, Starlight Glimmer is hidden in the background. Notbad
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22:12 <PostNinja> then again, Glimmer casually came up with a spell that removed cutie marks and store them in a bottle, and Bearded, as in the greatest mage of all time, could only come up with a spell that randomly changed their owners
22:12 <Midnight> Oh lawd. I'm finally back.
22:12 <SilverString> YAY
22:12 <Midnight> Lol. Hai. XD How is everyone?
22:12 <SilverString> cold
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22:12 <SabSparrow> There was nothing casual about Starlight's spell, I imagine
22:13 <PostNinja> staff of sameness
22:13 <Sour_Sweet> That was a fake ^^
22:13 <PostNinja> she probably spent like, four seconds coming up with the name though xD
22:13 <Electron> Starlight CAN levitate all the time without even bothering. Too OP.
22:13 <SabSparrow> She must've worked quite some time on it, probably
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22:14 <Electron> MLP writers, what are you doing?
22:14 <SabSparrow> Though she did alter Star Swirl's spell awfully quick
22:14 <Electron> Stahp making overpowered ponies.
22:14 <Midnight> @Silverstring I'm cold too. :( It's been frozen here the past few days. >.<
22:14 <Sunset-Shimmer> the same thing fanfic writers do. :P
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22:14 <Electron> Exactly, Sunset-Shimmer.
22:14 <Electron> That's a bit spooky.
22:14 <Sunset-Shimmer> except more approvable
22:15 <PostNinja> well, to be fair, Glimmer didn't even try to defeat Twilight in their duel, just stall her. Much easier not to lose than win
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22:16 <PostNinja> And Twilight would never use overwhelming force against another pony.
22:17 <SabSparrow> Twilight was also the one who had to repeatedly use the time-travel spell, which may have drained her magic
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22:18 <Sunset-Shimmer> I think the map technically powered that spell
22:18 <SabSparrow> Fair enough
22:18 <Electron> The question is: if all of Equestria was at stake, why Twilight didn't call other princesses?
22:18 <Sunset-Shimmer> HOW could she?
22:18 <PostNinja> when stuck in a time loop?
22:18 <Pepple> she had to do it on her own
22:18 <Sunset-Shimmer> She didn't even get a chance to do anything
22:18 <Pepple> it was her problem
22:18 * SilverString picks up ponyphone
22:19 <Sunset-Shimmer> Spike touched the scroll and started her being involved
22:19 <Sunset-Shimmer> she had no options
22:19 <Electron> There were princesses in a "time when a race is happening", right?
22:19 <Sunset-Shimmer> Wut?
22:19 <Pepple> well either way she was probably going to go back in time either way
22:19 <Sour_Sweet> But it would be to late than
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22:20 <Sour_Sweet> Also any involvement of them would have changed the upcoming events
22:20 <Sunset-Shimmer> Yeah, the princesses would have been entirely out of the question
22:20 <PostNinja> and Twilight was always sucked back to the present whenever glimmer changed the past, she couldn't had left if she wanted
22:20 <Electron> Why it would be too late? There is no such thing for the immortals as "too late".
22:20 <Sunset-Shimmer> It was too late for twilight to do anything
22:20 <Sunset-Shimmer> you're looking at it too closely
22:21 <Electron> Just send a letter with the help of Spike right away.
22:21 <Electron> Immediate response.
22:21 <Sunset-Shimmer> Celestia was occupied and unavailable the whole time
22:21 <Sunset-Shimmer> in each timeframe
22:21 <Sunset-Shimmer> It would have not worked.
22:22 <MarsToSirius> How are they supposed to do any of that without Starlight being able to interfere?
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22:22 <PostNinja> also, in the past, spike was still in his egg, the whole eating scrolls mail service had not even been done yet
22:22 * Night_Blitz nests on Sunset-Shimmer
22:22 <Electron> I think Twilight has more magic than Starlight. Just create a bubble or something.
22:22 <MarsToSirius> ... ... oh wow
22:22 <Sunset-Shimmer> Did you not really pay attention to that at all?
22:22 <MarsToSirius> That's actually a good point
22:22 <SabSparrow> Perhaps the letter thing requires preparing some kind of link, which might not have been ready on Celestia's end before Spike's birth
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22:23 <SabSparrow> Curse, I'm slow
22:23 <MarsToSirius> nice one, PostNinja
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22:24 <Pepple> y would they try to ask celestia for help? this was a friendship problem, which meant this whole thing was for the princess of friendship
22:25 <Electron> No, Twilight said it herself, this was the whole Equestria problem.
22:25 <Sunset-Shimmer> But you miss the point
22:25 <Electron> But the option with Celestia was blocked, I guess.
22:26 <PostNinja> and again, she had neither time or means of getting help from other princesses
22:26 <Sunset-Shimmer> Yes.
22:26 <Pepple> but the whole reason tied to her friends never meting
22:26 <Pepple> *meeting
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22:26 <Pepple> I mean like knowing who they are
22:26 <SilverString> protagonists
22:27 <SabSparrow> Celestia was in Canterlot at the time, Luna was in the moon, and Cadence was who-knows where
22:27 <Electron> Distance is not the matter for alicorns.
22:27 <Sunset-Shimmer> But the ability to contact IS
22:28 <Electron> It is.
22:28 <SilverString> cause Twi was probably in Magic Kindergarten, and two Twi's would be illogical to Tia
22:28 <SilverString> tadaaaaaaaa
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22:29 <Sunset-Shimmer> Naaah, Celestia was occupied in the first timestream anyway
22:29 <SabSparrow> Twilight was having her test, remember?
22:29 <Sunset-Shimmer> battling Sombra
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22:29 <MarsToSirius> You also assume one important thing that hasn't been demonstrated otherwise in the series
22:29 <SabSparrow> Entrance exam, I mean
22:29 <PostNinja> I think Electron's point was the time when they were in the race track, when everything was still peaceful
22:29 <SilverString> "Battling" Sombra
22:29 <MarsToSirius> i.e. that Celestia has enough power to best Starlight, when she hasn't been able to handle the likes of her sister or Discord or any other villains in the show.
22:30 <Sunset-Shimmer> Celestia was battlng sombra, it's assumable
22:30 <Sunset-Shimmer> I'll say that much
22:30 <SilverString> "battling"
22:30 <Sunset-Shimmer> Yes.
22:30 <Sunset-Shimmer> Battling.
22:30 <Electron> Celestia lives for we-don't-know-how-long and I'm sure she saw everything in her lifespan. Including two copies of a pony.
22:30 <Sunset-Shimmer> She was on the field, and she was doing things with the soldiers...
22:30 <Sunset-Shimmer> I'd call that being part of the battle
22:31 <Sunset-Shimmer> Electron, thats a massive assumption
22:31 <PostNinja> it required both celestia and luna to defeat sombra, and it seems that with just celestia, all she could do was to force sombra into a draw where neither of them could win, otherwise they would have resolved the war with a duel years ago
22:32 <Sunset-Shimmer> exactly
22:32 <SilverString> well yes, but Celestia is over ONE THOUSAND years old, and a princess, so there would be stress
22:32 <Pepple> yes both leaders were on the battlefield fighting with thier armies
22:32 <SabSparrow> The other villains weren't defeated by Twilight alone, so Starlight being able to prevent her from stopping her doesn't really help to compare her with villains who were defeated by the whole Mane 6 and the powers of harmony
22:32 <Sunset-Shimmer> Technically Starlight stopped herself. :P
22:33 <Divide|Supporting> Oh, hi, SabSparrow. Long time no see.
22:33 <Sunset-Shimmer> Twilight was just a catalyst
22:33 <Divide|Supporting> I think.
22:33 <SilverString> yes
22:33 <SabSparrow> I never said that Starlight didn't stop herself
22:33 <Electron> What if Starlight ruined the scroll and didn't let the Rainboom to happen? D:
22:33 <SabSparrow> I said that Starlight prevented Twilight drom stopping her
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22:34 <SabSparrow> *from
22:34 <PostNinja> starlight's entire plan was flawed, she intentionally gave Twilight a chance to stop her, and the ability to repeat her attempt again and again. She could had just torn the scroll the first moment she got.
22:35 <PostNinja> and fighting twilight forever on a cloud doesn't make all that much of sense as an end goal to a master plan
22:35 <Sunset-Shimmer> She probably was in denial and frustrated/in despair at the situation...but didn't know how to stop
22:35 <PostNinja> exactly
22:35 <Pepple> well she really didnt mind going back to the past and fighting with twilight for ever
22:35 <Electron> But the sweet taste of revenge telling about your winning right in the face of your opponent?
22:35 <PostNinja> coming from the practical planner and pragmatist from the season start?
22:36 <PostNinja> who took no risks whatsoever, and always had a back up plan
22:36 <Sunset-Shimmer> that doesn't really sound like starlight. :P
22:36 <Sunset-Shimmer> She barely had a backup plan, just an escape plan
22:37 <SilverString> but she wouldn't have known...she...won...every...time...
22:37 <PostNinja> it probably never occured to her that she wouldn't
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22:37 <MarsToSirius> Why would she tear the scroll and remove her method of escape?
22:37 <wobniaR> Because anger
22:37 <Pepple> so she could have her revenge
22:38 <Pepple> idk
22:38 <MarsToSirius> Right, which is why she was going to do it as her last resort after even she realized she wouldn't technically "win" either
22:38 <Electron> She almost did it anyway. D:
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22:38 <Pepple> she was very determined to ruin Twi's friendship
22:38 <MarsToSirius> Besides, it's a spell that she crafted, with plenty of use to her
22:38 <Sour_Sweet> Oh reminds me: Did you get my lovely letters?
22:38 <SilverString> She can't remember a moment in time that technically didn't happen right?
22:39 <PostNinja> glimmer and twilight both remembered everything
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22:39 <MarsToSirius> Glimmer sort of blinked backwards in time as soon as Twilight returned from whichever future she dove into
22:39 <MarsToSirius> That was part of the spell
22:39 <SilverString> well yeah
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22:40 <PostNinja> but glimmer never left the past, she was just summoned into a new instance to it, the spell always brought her there good half a minute before twilight
22:40 <SilverString> The only one that could have memory of both past and possible present is the "Time Traveller" that Twi was
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22:40 <Sunset-Shimmer> Starlight NEVER went to the times Twi did
22:41 <Sunset-Shimmer> thats the thing here
22:41 <SilverString> So she is IN the PAST
22:41 <Sunset-Shimmer> she likely was able to leave, but the spell brought her back everytime it was used
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22:41 <Sunset-Shimmer> as per her explanation
22:41 <Seoson> I doubt so. The spell was just written in a way to take her back as well whenever Twili used it
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22:42 <Seoson> She wasn't in the past all the time
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22:42 <SilverString> Starlight was only in the past, so how would she remember anything if the past is reset to one point?
22:42 <Pepple> magic
22:42 <PostNinja> because the past around her was reset, but not her?
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22:42 <MarsToSirius> Yes
22:42 <Seoson> MAGIC! I think it was metnioned as well that the spell took her back as well
22:43 <MarsToSirius> Whenever Twilight triggered the spell, Starlight sent herself backwards to the point where Twilight returned; she and Twilight were linked in this fashion by Starlight's doing
22:43 <Electron> Darn magic.
22:43 <PostNinja> besides, if glimmer would had really wanted to just fix all her problems, she would have used the spell to prevent her friend from getting his cutie mark. But she was so blinded by anger that she just wanted her revenge
22:43 <SilverString> or was she just forced backwards by the timeline?
22:43 <Electron> That was kinda mockery plan of Starlight.
22:44 <MarsToSirius> ACtually...
22:44 <MarsToSirius> I don't think that would work either
22:44 <MarsToSirius> Because I don't think they're allowed to interact with the past, only the future
22:44 <SilverString> but they did....
22:44 <MarsToSirius> Think of the Starlight flashback
22:44 <SabSparrow> Starlight and the spell were linked, technically, I think, if someone else used the spell to return Starlight may have been pulled back the same way
22:45 <Pepple> i dont think glimmer though about fixing the problem with her friend, she just wanted everypony to be equal but twi took that away from her and all she can think of is revenge revenge revenge
22:45 <Seoson> Also: What happens if Starlight would transfer a magic cutiemark on an earth pony /pegasus?
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22:45 <PostNinja> you interact with the future by interacting with the past^^
22:45 <MarsToSirius> Probably like trying to install a Windows game on a Linux OS
22:46 <SilverString> Floppy disk to CD drive
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22:46 <Seoson> That actually wokrs under certeina Intelligent (Wine)
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22:46 <MarsToSirius> The map isn't a TARDIS. It'll let them see what will become and let them interact with the future, but it will only show images of the past.
22:47 <SilverString> What about it being like the Time Displacement equipment?
22:47 <SilverString> no it is not a TARDIS
22:47 <PostNinja> um, wasn't the whole point of the spell to travel back in time through a magical clock tick vacuum portal to change the past, and then come back to the new present?
22:47 <SilverString> like Terminator
22:48 <MarsToSirius> Wait a second
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22:48 <MarsToSirius> No, you're right, but I thought of something else
22:48 <Mike_Coltfield> Hugs?
22:48 <MarsToSirius> Time travel backwards has limits - Twilight could do three days, Starswirl a week, this spell about a year or so
22:48 <MarsToSirius> Sorry, about 5-7 years or so
22:48 <PostNinja> yes, but we don't know was that the limit, glimmer merely chose that time because it was convenient
22:48 <MarsToSirius> Depending on how old Starlight is, travel even FARTHER back may have not been possible
22:48 <SabSparrow> Not like Terminator, because in Terminator they weren't sent back to where they came from after the change
22:48 <Pepple> wasnt the map there just so u can go anywhere in equestria?
22:49 <Pepple> and the spell to go back in time
22:49 <Pepple> so you have the spell for time travel and the map for the world or something like that
22:50 <PostNinja> glimmer explained it, using the map with the spell allowed you to go any place, and also suck extra magical juice to be able to go further back, since the map was powered by three of harmony, the thing that stomped over tired like nothing
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22:50 <PostNinja> *tree of harmony
22:50 <SabSparrow> Twilight might have been able to go back a week, but she had a specific destination in mind
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22:51 <Electron> Tree of Harmony is like an All Knowing God.
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22:54 <Pony_34223> Ack i forgot my password -.-
22:54 <SilverString> But the Rainboom was the target and Starlight went back to stop it from happening, and when it finally happened at the end she couldn't stop it anymore
22:54 <PostNinja> well, she didn't even try, because twilight finally convinced her that having them fight forever in a time loop was literally a dead end
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22:56 <Pepple> unless glimmer used a spell for immortality, in the end twilight would have won because shes an alicorn
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22:56 <SilverString> not correct
22:56 <SilverString> no aging in a time loop except the traveler
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22:57 <Pepple> oh yeah
22:57 <SilverString> Twi is the "time traveler" per se
22:57 <PostNinja> well, eventually one of them would maybe had fallen asleep out of exhaustion
22:58 <PostNinja> and from glimmer's mildly insane expressions, she had probably drank more coffee that morning out of two of them
22:58 <Pepple> that true they cant stay awake forever, they would also have to eat something sometime
22:58 <SilverString> but only Twi
22:59 <SabSparrow> Twilight could've decided to rest in one of the less immediately threatening futures
22:59 <SilverString> Starlight technically doesn't move back or ahead in time
22:59 <Pepple> yeah she could have gotten a cider or something in the future with the brothers
22:59 <Electron> Starlight's plan is weird.
22:59 <PostNinja> it was flawed, most likely intentionally
22:59 <SilverString> So she has as much "age" or energy
22:59 <Pepple> its revenge she was really mad
23:00 <Seoson> Pony_34223: There is a NickServ command to reset your password
23:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Reminder: AJ Day in Two Days, November Banner Event and NaPoWriMo Deadlines [ http://tinyurl.com/jd6bfra ]
23:02 <PostNinja> that probably was why glimmer made such a sudden turn in her mindset, much like Tiara, she knew what she was doing was wrong, but didn't know how to change
23:02 <MarsToSirius> Basically, yeah
23:02 <Sunset-Shimmer> She was like moondancer, just with a really bad attitude problem
23:02 <SilverString> but....but...time
23:02 <Pepple> magic
23:03 <PostNinja> time travel stories never make complete sense. This one made more sense than any of the terminator movies ever did :P
23:04 <SilverString> nah
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23:04 <SilverString> they all make no sense
23:05 <Electron> Yeah. :(
23:05 <Electron> Not a good sign when writers choose to use a time travel plot.
23:06 <PostNinja> but a good sign when they are not using it to reset the setting and render everything that happened moot
23:06 <Sunset-Shimmer> Time travel plots have been used well many times
23:06 <Sunset-Shimmer> they AREN'T a bad sign of anything. o.o
23:06 <Electron> I wouldn't know what to say if they would have done this.
23:06 <SilverString> *cough* terminator and such
23:07 <PostNinja> just google fan reactions to DC comic reboots, you will get pretty close
23:08 <Electron> I'm gonna get tons of results, and I don't want to dig in this heap.
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23:12 <PostNinja> the point is, Glimmer was desperate and angry, trying to convince herself that the world was being wrong, not her.
23:12 <Sunset-Shimmer> https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2015/11/29/1032790.jpg - Still...if only this had been the last shot! ;3
23:12 <wobniaR> You wish
23:12 <Sunset-Shimmer> I do
23:12 <Sunset-Shimmer> XD
23:12 <wobniaR> Dat edit tho
23:13 <Divide|Supporting> Why haven't I learned that the Ironic Overpower has its eye on me?
23:13 <Divide|Supporting> "Chats aren't totally swamped." *bing bing bing bing* "Weren't totally swamped."
23:14 <PostNinja> Glimmer seems to be the kind of person who dedicates herself completely to whatever she believes in.
23:14 <FN> http://rottenpanda.com/uploads/gallery_images/a56f87127b56147c7496c90b0421630d.jpg
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23:14 <FN> http://rottenpanda.com/uploads/gallery_images/21baa9142c71b84d3cf5fa102c293f9b.jpg
23:14 <PostNinja> I would guess that her utter dedication to her ideals will eventually shift into utter dedication towards Twilight, or at least her ideals
23:16 <FN> http://rottenpanda.com/uploads/gallery_images/2b1f50f94b22e43df1174372a99f288f.jpg
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23:16 <MarsToSirius> horses!
23:16 * Sunset-Shimmer horsenoises
23:17 * Divide|Supporting [horse noises intensify]
23:18 <Electron> That reminds me of Starlight's friend's reaction when he get's his cutie mark.
23:18 * SilverString wraps in Sunbutt quilt
23:19 <FN> http://rottenpanda.com/uploads/gallery_images/17f390d10e7ad78406ef8ac7c084bd0f.jpg
23:19 <MarsToSirius> Sunburst confirmed kyoot
23:20 <FN> http://rottenpanda.com/uploads/gallery_images/29691ba9573379a2585a5dacc91a1285.jpg
23:21 <FN> http://rottenpanda.com/uploads/gallery_images/b9b5b32cae536e0843c760dffada64f7.jpg
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23:21 <MarsToSirius> We get it'
23:21 <MarsToSirius> horses
23:22 <Electron> Get what?
23:22 <PostNinja> you are not seeing the constant spam of horse pictures?
23:22 <Insidious_Lars> don't need to spam the chat
23:22 <Insidious_Lars> god
23:22 <Electron> I like those pictures.
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23:23 <Insidious_Lars> you can ask to have them personally mailed to you, y'know?
23:24 <Electron> And? I didn't ask to post them in the first place.
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23:30 <Future> yo yo yo!
23:30 <Future> :P
23:30 <Future> how's everpony?
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23:31 <mniip> how's Future
23:31 <Future> great! It's not like Twilights bad ones!
23:31 <Future> :p
23:31 <Sunset-Shimmer> Badumtsssh
23:31 <mniip> absolutely nothing to worry about?
23:31 <Future> yup
23:32 <SabSparrow> Technically that was the present
23:32 <Gladiolus> Again, NMM's universe was totally the best of all worlds.
23:32 <Gladiolus> I will never let that go.
23:32 <Gladiolus> NEVER.
23:32 <Future> Well..... it's just a TON of Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey
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23:36 * Divide|Supporting hats on Gladiolus, goes buzzzzzz.
23:36 * Gladiolus is quite okay with this, goes eeeee
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23:36 * Divide|Supporting serves Gladiolus a slice of butterscotch-cinnamon pie!
23:37 * Gladiolus nibbles happily :>
23:37 <Divide|Supporting> Obviously the best universe was the one with Chrysalis, though.
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23:43 <Future> OK! I'm Back!
23:43 <Future> What'd I miss?
23:44 <Future> ????????????
23:44 <SilverString> MARTY
23:44 <Future> AAGGHHH!!!
23:44 <Future> As in Madagascar?
23:44 <SilverString> no
23:44 <Future> oh
23:44 <SilverString> Marty McFly
23:44 <Future> Ah! OK
23:45 <Future> I'm working on a drawing right now
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23:46 <Future> It's a pic of Rainbow dash in that war scene in the fibale
23:46 <Future> *finale
23:47 * Cepheid awakens.
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23:49 <KooK> Nah I ain't sayin' she a gold digga
23:50 <SilverString> ???
23:50 <KooK> kids these days
23:50 * MarsToSirius waves at Cepheid.
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