Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Thursday, 2015-12-03

00:00 <CocoPommel> :3

00:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Ratings Are In For The Cutie Re-Mark [ http://tinyurl.com/q8b5pga ]

00:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Gameloft Reveals the Moondancer Model  [ http://tinyurl.com/qf6hcn2 ]

00:01 <SilverString> I'm sorry that depression is a thing I do, and I'm sorry if it's put anyone off

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00:03 <CocoPommel> Huh?

00:03 <Sour_Sweet> SilverString: It's not like you're the only one here going through difficult times. Don't worry

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00:03 <CocoPommel> Now I feel bad, I wasn't laughing at you earlier

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00:03 <CocoPommel> I thought it was a comment related to the subject

00:03 <Sour_Sweet> Even though that message appeared a bit out of context imho

00:04 <CocoPommel> Not to me

00:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Ratings Are In For The Cutie Re-Mark [ http://tinyurl.com/q8b5pga ]

00:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: IDW Comic MLP Holiday Special Also Appearing in Stores Early!  [ http://tinyurl.com/njraehn ]

00:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1730 - Always Dresses in Style  [ http://tinyurl.com/jjmlxos ]

00:04 <Electron> DAT bass ( o_o): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjieN7XP7Xo

00:04 <CocoPommel> Wait, I'm confusing myself again

00:04 <CocoPommel> Anyways, don't feel bad SilverString you didn't bother me

00:04 <Sour_Sweet> Derpy rages again :P

00:04 <CocoPommel> Sorry you don't feel good *hugs*

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00:05 <Daring-Do> Schism, Schism.

00:05 <Daring-Do> I just found an *amazing* fanfic writer. He's got the best grasp of English I've seen in an MLP fanfic so far.

00:05 <Daring-Do> He's so... eloquent. Even more than you!

00:06 <Daring-Do> (and not in the "clunky" way)

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00:07 <CocoPommel> When did eloquent stop being elegant and become an actual word? I keep seeing it used

00:08 <Daring-Do> The Middle Ages, according to the internet

00:08 <CocoPommel> Hmmm my client is getting crashy brb

00:08 <CocoPommel> Ahh, well that would explain it

00:08 <Daring-Do> (seriously though, they're 2 different words, I think)

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00:19 <Electron> We got a great season after all.

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00:28 <Daring-Do> Well. Since Schism isn't here(?), I guess I'll be going now.

00:28 <Daring-Do> See ya, guys!

00:29 <Electron> Bye.

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00:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Gameloft Reveals the Moondancer Model  [ http://tinyurl.com/qf6hcn2 ]

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00:49 <SuperBrony> hi

00:49 <CocoPommel> Hello

00:50 <SuperBrony> Im new here

00:50 <SuperBrony> I just found this site a couple of days ago

00:50 <SuperBrony> Im excited for s6 of MLP

00:51 <SuperBrony> :D

00:51 <DerpyHooves> Good to hear

00:52 <CocoPommel> :) welcome

00:52 <CocoPommel> !flip

00:52 * DerpyBot flips a muffin

00:52 * DerpyBot catches the muffin with her hoof, upside down

00:52 * Gladiolus hugs SuperBrony tightly.

00:52 <Gladiolus> :>

00:52 <SuperBrony> :)

00:53 <SuperBrony> i dont know what to talk about

00:53 <SuperBrony> lol

00:53 <Gladiolus> https://derpiboo.ru/1035660

00:53 <Gladiolus> have this

00:53 <Gladiolus> o3o

00:53 <SuperBrony> ok

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00:54 <SuperBrony> lol

00:56 <CocoPommel> SuperBrony that's ok, conversations tend to just pop up randomly at times

00:56 <SuperBrony> ok

00:56 <SuperBrony> good to know

00:56 <CocoPommel> But you're more than welcome to stick around and make yourself comfortable

00:57 <SuperBrony> thx

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00:59 <SuperBrony> is the list of usernames on my right the list of people who are on this chat bubble

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01:00 <wobniaR> The nick list is the people who are in this chat but 95% of them are afk

01:00 <SuperBrony> ok

01:00 <SuperBrony> thx

01:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Crazy Effects PMVS: Search Inside, Bombastic, Like You Do  [ http://tinyurl.com/jv6xoc9 ]

01:01 <Gladiolus> IRC is fluid yes

01:01 <Gladiolus> just ride the waves

01:04 <SuperBrony> I dont know much about mlp but who is the evil pony that attacked with the other shapechanger ponies

01:06 <Gladiolus> wat

01:06 <Gladiolus> oh

01:06 <Gladiolus> chrysalis, season 2 finale

01:07 <SuperBrony> thx

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01:11 <Kalastraer> hi.

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01:15 <CocoPommel> My great grandfather has a Wikipedia page...

01:15 <Finwe> o3o

01:16 <CocoPommel> /random

01:16 <Finwe> Who is he?

01:16 <CocoPommel> Hi Kala

01:16 <CocoPommel> He was a bank owner.

01:17 <CocoPommel> Had multiple banks in San Diego

01:17 <CocoPommel> Back in the day..

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01:19 <CocoPommel> Oh yeah he used to own the San Diego Padres baseball team too

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01:21 <DerpyHooves> Nice for him

01:21 <CocoPommel> My life sure has changed a lot lol

01:22 <CocoPommel> I'm just reminiscing, don't mind me. Sometimes I miss my family.

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01:23 <CocoPommel> !muffinkiss

01:23 * DerpyBot regurgitates a whole, fresh looking muffin and approaches CocoPommel, showing her most adorable kissing face

01:23 <SuperBrony> lol

01:23 <CocoPommel> :)

01:23 * CocoPommel eats the muffin

01:25 <CocoPommel> Where is everybody? I can't take up the slack tonight

01:25 * CocoPommel makes loud noises

01:25 <SuperBrony> O_O

01:26 <CocoPommel> What... I like slightly digested muffins...

01:26 <CocoPommel> > .>

01:26 <SuperBrony> ok...

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01:26 * CocoPommel shrugs

01:26 <SuperBrony> lol

01:26 <CocoPommel> :3

01:29 <SuperBrony> check this out, I think its really funny

01:29 <SuperBrony> https://youtu.be/lK-3Cq0hvTY

01:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: Heather Breckel MLP: Friends Forever #25 SPOC Sneak Peek! [ http://tinyurl.com/hpkgd46 ]

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01:31 <User_1359> I've been thinking of doing an MLP:FIM retrospective

01:31 <User_1359> Would Saturday be good timing for it?

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01:32 <Umekile> WAAAAGGHHH!!!... Ten thousands Yeeeaars!~ Can give you such a Crik in the NECK. -3-

01:34 <CocoPommel> Heh :3 cute

01:34 <SuperBrony> gtg

01:34 <User_1359> Oh and do you think a focus on the show's messages or its style would be a better chance of a Nostalgia Critic feature?

01:34 <SuperBrony> might get on later

01:34 <CocoPommel> Bye

01:34 <CocoPommel> K

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01:35 <CocoPommel> Oh looks it's the genie

01:35 <CocoPommel> Um, hmm.

01:35 <CocoPommel> Idk

01:36 <CocoPommel> Seriously is everyone on vacation or something? Ah oh well. Good luck room. Have to be distracted for a while

01:37 <CocoPommel> !play

01:37 <DerpyBot> You're not my muffin!

01:37 <Cyan_Spark> Play?

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01:49 <SgtPinkie> !play

01:49 <DerpyBot> You're not my muffin!

01:49 <SgtPinkie> Ooooooooooooh

01:49 <SgtPinkie> I get it

01:49 <SgtPinkie> I think

01:52 <Noodles> SgtPinkie it's actually command that works in a different room, that's her default message when the other bot isn't around

01:52 <Noodles> !seen dinkybot

01:53 <DerpyBot> Dinky?! Where's my muffin?

01:53 * DerpyBot looks behind every cloud

01:53 <Noodles> a*

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01:55 <Finwe> Lt The_Nostalgia_Mare.

01:55 <Finwe> _o7

01:56 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Radm. Finwe. (Salutes)

01:56 <Finwe> I'm about to retire to my boudoir, so you're in charge, Lt.

01:57 <Finwe> Good night.

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01:57 <Finwe> !lullaby

01:57 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed

01:57 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby

01:57 <Finwe> !sunshine

01:57 <DerpyBot> I'm walking on sunshine!

01:57 <DerpyBot> I'm walking on sunshine!

01:57 <DerpyBot> and don't it feel good!

01:57 <Cyan_Spark> Dem secret commands

01:57 <Noodles> There's a lot of them

01:58 <Noodles> That's the fun part, trying to remember them all

01:58 <Noodles> !facehoof

01:58 * DerpyBot puts her hoof in Noodles's face

01:58 <DerpyBot> Now lick it.

01:58 <Noodles> :3 *licks*

01:59 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yay!

01:59 * The_Nostalgia_Mare noms Noodles.

01:59 <Finwe> o3o

01:59 * Noodles is pleased by this

02:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #550 [ http://tinyurl.com/jg3fw6a ]

02:00 <Noodles> I try to be delicious

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02:03 <Cyan_Spark> XD

02:04 <CrassyPaddles> does anyone here still think Celestia is some super powerful pony or some master planner after this finale?

02:05 <Noodles> Well she has her limits, just like any entity

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02:07 <CrassyPaddles> And her limits are clearly that she's not all that powerful and she's not all that smart

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02:10 <Shieldbreaker> I am Shieldbreaker, the seeker of power!

02:10 <Shieldbreaker> Doth thou desire the power?

02:11 <Gigabit> nope

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02:14 <Daniel_Waterhorse> Hello folks and folkettes

02:17 <Shieldbreaker> One should engage in studies of necromancy, to be able to bring this chat back from death.

02:18 <Noodles> Or, maybe she's powerful and smart enough to know the mane 6 keep Equestria in balance...

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02:20 <Noodles> I already said I'm not taking up the slack tonight, but yeah, ghostsville

02:20 * Noodles shrugs

02:21 <Noodles> Besides you guys probably need a break from me anyway, I know I would

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02:23 <CrassyPaddles> Noodles, have you seen the last episode? She has no contingency planned if the Mane 6 aren't there!

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02:24 <Noodles> That's a fair point, but those were only hypothetical timelines

02:24 <CrassyPaddles> No mane 6 = No equestria. It's a miracle that it even exists!

02:24 <Noodles> Hmm

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02:24 <CrassyPaddles> Noodles, it's not some sort of rarified abstract thought experiment.

02:25 <Noodles> Yeah I see what you're saying

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02:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony: Friends Forever Volume 5 Officially Released! [ http://tinyurl.com/j3fw7m3 ]

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02:40 <CrassyPaddles> literally farting in the wind at the the crucial race in RD's past leads to different villains taking over, but in each case, Equestria is boned.

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02:43 <Noodles> Still, I would think things would turn out slightly different if the timeline took place in real time, and wasn't the result of some magical trickery

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02:44 <Noodles> Like, fiddling with the past isn't exactly the same thing as events unfolding over a period of decades or moreso

02:44 <CrassyPaddles> Why do you think that? What's the "real timeline"?

02:44 <Noodles> Idk that's my opinion

02:44 <Noodles> I'm saying in real time

02:44 <Noodles> Um, how do I say it

02:45 <Noodles> Actual measured time

02:45 <Noodles> Like, 'real time' is a term used a lot

02:46 <Noodles> As opposed to taking a piece out of a puzzle and having the whole thing collapse

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02:46 <Noodles> Idk if this is making any sense

02:46 <CrassyPaddles> it's not

02:46 <Noodles> To you

02:46 <Noodles> I'm aware

02:46 <CrassyPaddles> which is to whom you're talking to, so explain a bit more.

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02:47 <Barry_From_Mars> Might anyone here know of a hotel in Springfield, Missouri that allows pets (in this case, a rabbit) to stay and takes checks? Maybe a long shot but I ask anyway...

02:47 <CrassyPaddles> "actual" means "real", so you're using the word in the definition of the word

02:47 <Noodles> But I'm saying, those alternate timelines where Equestria was doomed were the result of instantaneous magic, and not the result of years and years of actual time passing

02:48 <Noodles> (I'm typing on a phone, so, sorry it's slow)

02:48 <Noodles> I don't Barry

02:48 <Noodles> I don't know how to say it more clearly than that

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02:49 <CrassyPaddles> instantaneous magic? As opposed to magic you have to charge up?

02:49 <Barry_From_Mars> Thanks anyway. Anyone else know of a hotel like that? Not looking for me.

02:49 <Barry_From_Mars> Checking GOogle Maps...

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02:49 <Noodles> That's not how I meant it

02:49 <CrassyPaddles> And magic gets used ALL the time. Everything you see in the main timeline is due to magic.

02:49 <Noodles> I meant the results were instant

02:50 <Noodles> You're not getting my point or you're being stubborn

02:50 <CrassyPaddles> the results of what?

02:50 <Noodles> The spell

02:50 <CrassyPaddles> I'm not getting you're point, I'm trying to get it.

02:50 <Noodles> And Starlight's intervention

02:51 <Noodles> Well I don't want to repeat myself, that would just be spammy.

02:51 <CrassyPaddles> I'm confused by how you mean "instant". Isn't shooting a laser beam also instant magic?

02:52 <Noodles> You're focusing on the wrong thing

02:52 <Noodles> I'm talking more about time, less about music

02:52 <Noodles> Magic**

02:52 <Noodles> More of a theory on time travel itself

02:52 <Noodles> Well anyways

02:53 <CrassyPaddles> it takes years for the results of Starlight's intervention to play out though. It's not like she causes RD to fail the rainboom and then NMM IMMEDIATELY takes over afterwards.

02:54 <Noodles> I was saying, if Celestia actually lived those events, second by second, minute by minute, things might have turned out differently than just suddenly altering events from the past. That's where I'm coming from

02:54 <Barry_From_Mars> bye now

02:54 <Barry_From_Mars> good bye

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02:54 <CrassyPaddles> but the Tia of that timeline WAS living those events.

02:54 <Noodles> *theoretically

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02:55 <CrassyPaddles> The Tia of the NMM timeline WAS living those events.

02:55 <Noodles> Idk, different opinions I guess

02:55 <CrassyPaddles> what do you mean theoretically living those events?

02:55 <Noodles> Well, look at it this way

02:55 <Noodles> None of that stuff ACTUALLY happened

02:55 <Noodles> That's kind of my point

02:55 <Noodles> Just time travel trickery

02:56 <Noodles> Just an idea anyway

02:56 <CrassyPaddles> Spike was enchaind by a NMM. Those weren't real chains?

02:56 <Noodles> More like an alternate reality

02:56 <Noodles> So maybe starlight created alternate dimensions with her spell, who knows?

02:57 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight and spike of the "real timeline", which is the one we've been following this series, were interacting on a pretty real level with all these theoretical ponies.

02:57 <Noodles> Ok

02:57 <CrassyPaddles> by alternate dimensions, you think that SS sent the duo to some sort of illusionary world?

02:58 <Noodles> Well, I think that would be a fair assessment.

02:58 <Noodles> Tbh

02:58 <CrassyPaddles> like SS crafted this illusion for the duo to see Equestria ruled over by these different villains?

02:59 <Noodles> How meta

02:59 <Noodles> 9 _6

02:59 <CrassyPaddles> So what the duo saw wasn't what would have happened had Starlight and the duo messed around the past in this or that way, but just an illusion that SS wanted them to see?

03:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Jenn Blake Lays It All Out For Everfree Northwest! [ http://tinyurl.com/hcjalbb ]

03:00 <Noodles> Well starlight altered the spell

03:00 <CrassyPaddles> Do you think that the three even time travelled, or was young RD's race an illusion as well?

03:01 <Noodles> Wait, first, I misread the first mention of SS as SG

03:01 <Noodles> So, there's a little confusion there

03:01 <CrassyPaddles> shoot you're right

03:02 <CrassyPaddles> By SS I meant SG, starlight glimmer

03:02 <Noodles> But basically what your days is how I kind of view it, except, the illusion would become permanent one the damage was done

03:02 <Noodles> Oh ok

03:02 <Noodles> You said* not your days

03:03 <CrassyPaddles> so let me see if I got this straight

03:03 <Noodles> But I could be totally wrong, just my headcanon

03:04 <CrassyPaddles> there isn't a wrong or right when it comes to interpretations, outside of coming up with contradictory ones

03:04 <CrassyPaddles> but your interpretation, as I think I understand it, doesn't explain any of the events of the finale, and seems to be refuted by them.

03:05 <CrassyPaddles> In the main timeline, SG traps Twi and Spike in some illusion. They don't actually travel back in time.

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03:06 <CrassyPaddles> And then SG has the power to change the main timeline to match the illusion?

03:06 <Noodles> I wasn't explicitly saying it was an illusion, you brought that up

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03:06 <Noodles> I'm talking about the mechanics of time travel

03:06 <CrassyPaddles> well, do you think there was time travelling?

03:06 <Noodles> Yes

03:07 <Noodles> I just don't think Celestia and everypony else for that matter lived out each and every timeline in full time. That just doesn't make any sense

03:08 <Noodles> Like, they would have lived full lives and died like five times over,

03:08 <Noodles> Doesn't really work logically

03:08 <CrassyPaddles> do you think what we saw of the young RD* (I'll use '*' to designate characters from these alternate timelines from characters of the main one) events, was that an illusion, or was that really SG and TS and S there?

03:10 <Noodles> Hard to say. Not really sure illusion is exactly what I mean more that I think about it

03:10 <CrassyPaddles> Noodles, it wouldn't, if they were the same characters. They're not. The Celestia in the NMM timeline is not the same as the one in the Tirek timeline, nor the sombra timeline etc.

03:11 <CrassyPaddles> Noodles, by illusion, I mean were the events we saw b/t TS, S, and SG in young RD*'s race, was that all in TS's head and she's lying knocked out on the floor of her castle or something?

03:12 <Noodles> No noo

03:12 <Noodles> This is getting confusing

03:12 <CrassyPaddles> you mean illusion to refer to alternate timelines besides the main one, or the real one?

03:13 * Twilight`Sparkle sips on an illusory milkshake

03:14 <Noodles> Honestly my roommate just got home and I can't concentrate right now sorry

03:14 <Noodles> But I think you know what I mean

03:15 <Noodles> I would say they were really there

03:15 <Noodles> But that RD's memory of the event probably remains the same, unless I'm missing something

03:16 <CrassyPaddles> I think I know what you don't mean, but I'm still confused as to what exactly you do mean.

03:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> The real question is, do those alternate timelines have any permanence?

03:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> Or did they vanish with each iteration of the time portal?

03:16 <Noodles> My only point was Celestia didn't live through an Equestria without TS and the mane 6

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03:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> The Celestia in the timeline the show stays with didn't, certainly.

03:17 <Noodles> It was only though a spell we saw some possible outcomes of what could potentially hasten without the mane 6

03:17 <Noodles> Through

03:17 <Noodles> Happen*

03:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> Sure. Which is why the question is whether those timelines we saw have any permanence.

03:18 <CrassyPaddles> The celestia in each of those alternate timelines lived through an equestria with the mane 6 of those alternate timelines, they just weren't the same ponies as the mane 6 in the main timeline.

03:18 <User_6151> Think a retrospective on the show's messages or on its visual/musical style is more likely to get featured on Nostalgia Critic

03:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> No clue, don't follow Nostalgia.

03:18 <Noodles> If they're alternate dimensions, they could be permanent I suppose

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03:19 <User_6151> Anyone else?

03:19 <Noodles> The spell could have birthed these dimensions, idk if I mentioned that before or not

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03:19 <Noodles> User_6151: it's worth a shot

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03:19 <CrassyPaddles> Well by "birthing" those dimensions, what do you mean?

03:19 <Noodles> Might as well try if you want to

03:20 <Noodles> Creating

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03:20 <Noodles> Brining into existence

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03:20 <CrassyPaddles> So in each iteration of the loop, TS gets sucked to the exact same spot in the main timeline, of young RD's race.

03:20 <CrassyPaddles> She and SG go at it, then TS gets sucked back to the "present time".

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03:20 <Noodles> Yeah but, the same space? Maybe not

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03:20 <User_6151> Which one though, the one on the messages or on the visuals/songs?

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03:21 <CrassyPaddles> the same space as in the same dimension, same timeline?

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03:21 <Noodles> Possible

03:21 <CrassyPaddles> Same timeline as the main timeline?

03:21 <Twilight`Sparkle> User_6151: the one you like better.

03:21 <Noodles> ^

03:21 <User_6151> May as well, I guess

03:22 <User_6151> Would linking to it here be appropriate when it's done?

03:22 <Twilight`Sparkle> Will the thingy be appropriate for all-ages?

03:22 <User_6151> Pretty much, about PG

03:22 <Twilight`Sparkle> Then you've answered your own question.

03:23 <User_6151> There we go, then

03:23 <Noodles> Well I don't want my dinner to get cold :< talk to ya later

03:23 <Twilight`Sparkle> Go eat, silly pickle.

03:23 <Noodles> :>

03:23 <CrassyPaddles> time travel stuff is mind boggling.

03:24 <Noodles> Same time, different space. S'wut I meant

03:24 <Twilight`Sparkle> Which is why Doctor Who established that it's more a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.

03:24 <Twilight`Sparkle> That way continuity is less important.

03:24 <Noodles> I still haven't seen that show

03:24 <Twilight`Sparkle> I've only seen bits.

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03:24 * Twilight`Sparkle raises an eyebrow.

03:25 <Twilight_Sparkle_is_Hot> :I

03:25 * Twilight_Sparkle_is_Hot sweats

03:25 <Twilight`Sparkle> Uh ... huh.

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03:26 <Twilight_Sparkle_is_Hot> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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03:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: Agnes Garbowska MLP: FiM #39 SPOC Sneak Peek! [ http://tinyurl.com/oq6yo4g ]

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03:35 <Twilight`Sparkle> woof

03:35 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

03:35 <Twilight`Sparkle> hello, mr. pickle.

03:38 <Thelema5> Am I Mr. Pickle?

03:38 <Twilight`Sparkle> Probably.

03:39 * Thelema5 That's i-dill.

03:40 <Noodles> Hmm, so at the end of the finale, everything was as it was before, right? Like, nothing in the past was actually changed, correct?

03:40 <Thelema5> As far as we know.

03:40 <Noodles> k

03:40 <Noodles> Ty

03:41 <Thelema5> Although Pinkie Pie may or may not have wings now.

03:41 <Noodles> Lol wut, that would be awesome

03:41 <Twilight`Sparkle> Thanks Josh Haber

03:42 <Thelema5> Noodles, check her out in the the first two seconds of this clip from the finale: https://youtu.be/IsvAq_jzRU0?t=25m3s

03:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> and they vanish by the next time you get the full body shot.

03:43 <Thelema5> Yup

03:44 <Noodles> How does anybody notice that 0_0

03:44 <Noodles> Someone is messing with the fandom heh heh

03:44 <Twilight`Sparkle> Well, there's folks as go out of their way to find all the errors.

03:44 <Noodles> True

03:45 * Noodles noms chili fries

03:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> I'm inclined to believe that one is not an error so much as an easter egg.

03:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> AKA /that/ Pinkie Pie is a changeling.

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03:48 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> Hello everypony

03:49 <Twilight`Sparkle> Hello, Sir Pickles.

03:49 <MarcusGarciaWulfric> No. I am the walrus.

03:49 <Twilight`Sparkle> Goo goo ga joob.

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03:49 <CrassyPaddles> I can't believe how much thought I've spent thinking about time lines

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03:50 <TheWalrus> Thelema5: sup

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03:50 <Thelema5> Hello, TheWalrus

03:51 <TheWalrus> It's me iandalton/Marcus

03:51 <Thelema5> So I see!

03:51 <TheWalrus> I just learned some bad news, I'm going to have to retake probability and statistics next fall, again

03:51 <Thelema5> Blech

03:51 <Thelema5> Sorry to hear it!

03:52 <TheWalrus> I'm trying to take it in stride but it's a big failure on my part

03:52 <Thelema5> Stuff is hard.

03:52 <TheWalrus> I just didn't do the work

03:52 <CrassyPaddles> Time travel shouldn't be thought as travelling back in time, but travelling across dimensions or worlds.

03:54 <CrassyPaddles> And each time traveller should be viewed as having his own timeline, separate from those of general world timelines.

03:55 <TheWalrus> I came to the opposite conclusion after It's About Time

03:56 <CrassyPaddles> And there's nothing that that time traveller can do to alter events in his own past. So for instance, Twilight couldn't go back in time and murder a baby twilight.

03:57 <Twilight`Sparkle> Right up until a story actually does that.

03:57 <CrassyPaddles> Wait, I mean she couldn't time travel to kill herself as a baby. She could kill A baby Twilight, but it wouldn't be herself when she was a baby that she'd kill, but a DIFFERENT baby twilight.

03:58 <TheWalrus> Any event in the past during the time you're alive is an event in your past, especially when it affects your life, like making a war between Equestria and Sombra that everypony contributes to

03:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yeah. Until a story actually does that.

03:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> Case in point, Back to the Future.

03:58 <CrassyPaddles> we shouldn't think of simply a solitary timeline, because that makes time travel impossible.

03:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> Marty manages to actually affect his own past. Oddly not his memories, but he does almost erase himself from existence.

03:58 <Thelema5> Theories aout how we should think about time travel are all fun and games, but the fact is that it's just silly conjecture because we have no evidence to form conclusions around.  For all we know going back in time makes everything in the future turn into circus clowns.

03:58 <CrassyPaddles> when talking about past, present, future, we have to also mention WHICH timeline's past, present, and future.

03:58 <CrassyPaddles> Timeline 1, 2, 3, etc?

03:59 <Thelema5> We have only linear datasets. If time travel exists, they cease to apply

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04:00 <TheWalrus> Thelema5: looking for planets that can support life has a similar obstacle: we only have a single example to extrapolate from

04:00 <fyrepony> http://gfycat.com/PoliticalBothCowrie

04:00 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, I'm trying to come up with a way to have a consistent idea of time travelling in MLP. It works very differently in BtoF

04:00 <Thelema5> True

04:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Background Music and Song for Cutie Re-Mark 1 & 2 Released! [ http://tinyurl.com/prv4s3f ]

04:00 <CrassyPaddles> for instance, if there's just this one solitary timeline, then the events in MLP are impossible.

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04:01 <TheWalrus> Well, they are impossible.

04:01 <CrassyPaddles> impossible in the realm of MLP, in the world of MLP

04:01 <Twilight`Sparkle> Unless there's one solitary timeline that erases abberant timelines with each loop.

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04:01 <Vulpor> Hey all

04:02 <TheWalrus> Hi

04:02 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, I'm proposing more of a multiverse, branching timeline hypothesis.

04:02 <Thelema5> Hey, Vulpor!

04:02 <TheWalrus> Multiverse is the most boring kind of time travel

04:02 <Vulpor> So I have discovered something wonderful about my beloved recently

04:02 <CrassyPaddles> each instance of a explorer time travelling sends him to a different timeline.

04:03 <TheWalrus> Then Twilight's not trying to fix time, she's just trying to find a timeline to live in that she likes

04:03 <Twilight`Sparkle> CrassyPaddles: sure! I'm just pointing out that a singular unified timeline works too.

04:03 <Vulpor> She is a anime fan but has yet to watch a Mecha series

04:03 <CrassyPaddles> TheWalrus, or, she may be trying to get back to her original timeline

04:03 <CrassyPaddles> which, I suppose is one that she likes to live in, but that's a fact that applies to ALL theories of time travel, I suspect.

04:04 <TheWalrus> Well fine, but that still makes it about her, not about saving the world

04:04 <Vulpor> Which means I, the great and powerful Vulpor get to introduce her to an entire genre!

04:04 <TheWalrus> It's not as important as ensuring the only timeline doesn't get screwed up

04:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> Vulpor: start with the most depressing one you can find, then switch to the cheesiest and goofiest one ever, and then do Gurren Lagann.

04:05 <Vulpor> And I have chosen a dandy to get her into it

04:05 <CrassyPaddles> I started with TTGL

04:05 <TheWalrus> Celestia bless Gurren Lagann

04:05 <CrassyPaddles> I ended with TTGL

04:05 <Vulpor> All of you have forgotten the big bad booty daddy of mecha

04:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> Simon the hobo.

04:05 <Vulpor> Gundam Wing!

04:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> Voltron?

04:06 <TheWalrus> Robotech?

04:06 <Twilight`Sparkle> Urutora Man?

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04:06 <TheWalrus> Oh, angsty teen boys sulking

04:06 <Twilight`Sparkle> JET JAGUAR

04:06 <TheWalrus> I watched all but the last two episodes of Wing

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04:06 <Vulpor> Curse backspace

04:07 <TheWalrus> Maybe I'd get more out of it now, but I never understood Heero's motivations for anything he did

04:07 <Vulpor> Anyway she loves romance stories

04:07 <Twilight`Sparkle> Start using a dedicate client that isn't on a web browser and you won't have to worry about backspace

04:07 <Vulpor> and this gots one plus the bots

04:08 <Vulpor> no girl can resist zechs marquise!

04:08 <Vulpor> lol

04:08 <TheWalrus> He's just a Char

04:08 <Vulpor> plus I know the series very well

04:08 <Twilight`Sparkle> Who?

04:08 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, what's this unified timeline theory?

04:08 <Vulpor> Yeah but I am not gonna show her original gundam

04:09 <Vulpor> that thing was a slog

04:09 <Vulpor> even for me

04:09 <Vulpor> Code Geass might be good for her too

04:09 <CrassyPaddles> Also, the time travelling in the finale is quite complex, because you have multiple travellers undergoing multiple instances of time travelling.

04:10 <Vulpor> But of course all of this is leading somewhere else

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04:10 * Vulpor eyes his Evangelion boxset lovingly

04:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> Vulpor: gigantor?

04:10 <Vulpor> Soon my pet

04:10 <CrassyPaddles> made even weirder by the fact that somehow SG carries some sort of memory of what happened in previous instances of Twilight time travelling.

04:10 <Vulpor> Evangelion

04:10 <CrassyPaddles> like how does that work?

04:11 <Twilight`Sparkle> CrassyPaddles: they are clearly linked via the spell.

04:11 <TheWalrus> Evangelion was so weird, I did not get it at all

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04:11 <Vulpor> I was 14 when I saw all 26 episodes and both movies

04:11 <fyrepony> http://www.twitch.tv/iesf_tv

04:11 <Vulpor> It changed my life

04:12 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, when Twi uses the spell, she always goes back to the same moment and the same place, but Starlight behaves different each time.

04:12 <TheWalrus> Can you explain why it's so great to me

04:12 <Vulpor> Its a deconstruction of mecha

04:12 <CrassyPaddles> One time she freezes SG, then the next time, she does the same thing, but SG is ready with a dodge.

04:12 <TheWalrus> CrassyPaddles: of course she does, just as Twilight does

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04:13 <TheWalrus> Vulpor: it's from 1997, I haven't seen any of the show's they're critiquing

04:13 <CrassyPaddles> but how though?

04:13 <TheWalrus> because when Twilight used the spell they both got hurled back to that moment and chose to act differently

04:13 <CrassyPaddles> she's arriving into the the timeline AFTER starlight arrives.

04:14 <TheWalrus> No they arrive at the same moment

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04:14 <TheWalrus> or maybe Starlight set it so she'd arrive a few seconds eralier

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04:14 <CrassyPaddles> hurled back from where? And how does SG end up there to be hurled back? When the spell activates, it only sucks in Twi and Spike into the future.

04:14 <BerryPunch> I hope something is permanently changed in their world

04:14 <BerryPunch> I wanna see some Rick and Morty level stuff going on in Equestria

04:15 <TheWalrus> CrassyPaddles: listen to her exposition again

04:15 <TheWalrus> she gets sent back, doesn't matter from where or when

04:16 <BerryPunch> I am the egg man

04:16 <TheWalrus> Dr. Robotnik, you fiend!

04:16 <CrassyPaddles> but back from where?

04:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> From wherever/whenever she was at the time the spell was recast.

04:16 <TheWalrus> The same moment as Twilight, I assume

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04:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> The point is, the spell pulls /both/ of them back to the entry point, each time.

04:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> Where they start is irrelevant.

04:17 <CrassyPaddles> TheWalrus, when twi and spike gets sucked into the future, does SG get sucked in as well?

04:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> Only the one time.

04:17 <MDP> hello everypony

04:18 <TheWalrus> CrassyPaddles: maybe not. She might just live her life from that point that she travelled to.

04:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> The key thing to realize here is that we don't actually know the mechanics of the spell. Everything is conjecture based on observation of the effects.

04:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> Starlight Glimmer and Twilight Sparkle appear to be moving in lock step with each other, and remember each trip.

04:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> Since the common thread there is the spell itself, clearly it has something to do with that spell.

04:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> Asking "how does this happen?" has only one answer. Literally, magic.

04:20 <Schism> Hmm.... Just Cause 3 was released a few days ago.

04:20 <Schism> So, of course, the answer is 'Just 'cause!'

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04:21 <TheWalrus> Oh, we do know that Starlight doesn't travel to the future/present with Twilight, because she doesn't know what they're like till Twilight shows her.

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04:22 <Barry_From_Mars> So a friend of mine is looking for a place to stay for the night that allows rabbits and takes personal checks for payment...

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04:22 <Barry_From_Mars> Who I sent over 20 phone numbers to hotels and none did...

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04:32 <Schism> Personal cheques are of ... /extremely/ limited use nowadays.

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04:35 <Verandure> Best Buy sold me a Spanish version of windows 10...

04:36 <TheWalrus> Can't you choose the language at install time?

04:37 <Schism> Yes, usually you can...

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04:38 <Thelema5> Hi, Ali.

04:38 * Schism buzzes over and hats on Ali comfortably, offering a bowl of chicken mushroom and cheddar rice.

04:38 * Ali squeaks at ponies

04:38 <Barry_From_Mars> AFK time

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04:39 <Thelema5> I still want a Sweetie Belle Plush with a squeaky toy squeaker even though Claire can't squeak anymore

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04:39 <TheWalrus> How come Rainbow Dash can squeak but Sweetie Belle can't?

04:39 <Thelema5> She told me it was because of puberty, TheWalrus

04:40 <TheWalrus> Ah, I remember that. That was when my voice broke the most :P

04:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> Define "squeak"

04:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> Are you talking about that squeaky toy sound the ponies make some times?

04:40 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, I'm not asking for some mechanistic causal explanation of the time travel spell, what I'm asking for is the the rules the govern its effects.

04:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> Because I'm pretty sure that's not made by human voice.

04:40 <CrassyPaddles> An analogy.

04:40 <Thelema5> Volice cracking

04:41 <TheWalrus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLTdueVxwk4

04:41 <Thelema5> *voice

04:41 <TheWalrus> Voice cracks are magic!

04:41 <Thelema5> Ah ha ha, I was about to link that same video

04:41 <CrassyPaddles> I'm not asking how pulling the trigger causes a bullet to be fired, but once that bullet is fired, what rules govern the trajectory of that bullet.

04:42 <Thelema5> "I really like her MAne!

04:43 <Thelema5> Best squeaky belle ever

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04:47 <Thelema5> ... how the heck is something as barbaric and, well, just plain icky, as a fecal transplant proceedure considered a sound modern medical proceedure?

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04:48 <TheWalrus> Because doctors care about what works, not what's icky

04:48 <wobniaR> Bacteria is important for your digestion tract

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04:48 <Thelema5> Can't they just make a pill or something?

04:49 <Barry_From_Mars> ... Like eat sauerkraut?

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04:49 <Thelema5> I just fermented my own Sauerkraut!  It wasn't icky at all

04:49 <wobniaR> Most things get destroyed in the digestion process

04:50 <wobniaR> There are probiotics but their effects are not scientifically proven to be beneficial yet

04:50 <Schism> Did ferment, or are fermenting?

04:50 <Thelema5> You and TheWalrus made a good point.  But still... eeewww

04:51 <Schism> Also, sauerkraut is absolutely delicious.  <.<

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04:51 <Thelema5> Schism, I cold-crashed the Kraut tonight

04:51 <Thelema5> It is ceasing to ferment as we speak

04:51 * Schism offers Thelema5 a bacon, tomato and sauerkraut sandwich. With cheddar.

04:51 <Thelema5> Yum!@

04:52 <KooK> Thelema5 - You have to either kill a fox, or remove your left foot by yourself, what do?

04:52 <Schism> KooK: 'Would you rather'?  Really?

04:53 <KooK> Yes

04:53 <Thelema5> Kill th fox.  Self preservation is a prime motivator.

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04:53 <Schism> I'm afraid that I have to agree.

04:53 <KooK> But then would you eat the fox and keep the hide?

04:53 <Thelema5> I'd make a hat.

04:54 <KooK> and a fox steak?

04:54 <Schism> Predators are well known not to be healthy to eat.

04:54 <Thelema5> Sure?  Not much meat on a fox.

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04:54 <Thelema5> I'd have to cook the living crud outta it.  Literally

04:54 <Thelema5> Parasite city

04:55 <Muffin_Spectacles> REminds me of Fishy Joe: "The only reason we don't eat people is because it tastes lousy!"

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04:55 <TheWalrus> "The English country gentleman galloping after a fox - the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable" -- Oscar Wilde

04:55 <CrassyPaddles> okay, so when twilight gets sucked into the portal to the future, SG stays behind

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04:55 <Verandure> That seems to be the case.

04:56 <CrassyPaddles> wait, foxes are full of parasites?

04:56 <CrassyPaddles> compared to other wild animals?

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04:56 <Thelema5> Compared to herbivores

04:56 <KooK> The wild turkey hunts and eats foxes though

04:57 <Thelema5> Wild turkeys are stupid.  I can't believe they hunt anything.

04:57 <CrassyPaddles> Thelema5, you've got some sauce for this?

04:57 <Thelema5> I have a flock of wild turkey on my property.  They're the dumbest animals I've ever seen.

04:57 <KooK> Wild turkeys are amazing hunters

04:57 <Thelema5> Naaaaah.

04:57 <KooK> they're sly and cunning

04:58 * wobniaR gobbles

04:58 <Thelema5> They drown themselves looking at the rainclouds

04:58 <CrassyPaddles> Thelema5, I don't know. Those crows and ravens man

04:58 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: Well, if you really look at the episode, there's a lot of time holes.

04:58 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: For example: how are they able to come back to the same time/place, and not run into their 'other selves?'

04:58 <CrassyPaddles> Muffin_Spectacles, if you assume one view of time travel, it's inconsistent, but then just assume another.

04:58 <Thelema5> CrassyPaddles, certainly scavengers are worst of all

04:59 <Verandure> They're never in Canterlot and Spike wouldn't even know Twilight in any of the futures.

04:59 <CrassyPaddles> Thelema5, would they?

04:59 <Thelema5> Yes

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04:59 <Muffin_Spectacles> Verandure: Yeah...and much like 'where is Marty McFly in 1985-A,' I did wonder where Twilivght was in her alternate futures.

04:59 <Verandure> That would probably be an extremely heartbreaking scene.

04:59 <Thelema5> Sauce?  Here, have the godmother of rock n roll

04:59 <Verandure> Never became anything.

04:59 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/SR2gR6SZC2M

04:59 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Sister Rosetta Tharpe - Didn't It Rain

05:00 <CrassyPaddles> on the one hand, they eat rotting meat, but on the other hand, maybe they have really robust immune systems

05:00 <Thelema5> Oh wait what?  A middle aged black woman invented rock n roll?  Oh heck yeah.

05:00 <Muffin_Spectacles> Yep: "Ms Sparkle failed to hatch the egg...well, chuck it out the window- SPLAt/CRACK!"

05:01 <StormDashNLR> !hug

05:01 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3

05:01 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around StormDashNLR in a tight embrace

05:02 <TheWalrus> Verandure: Spike? He still wouldn't be hatched

05:02 <Verandure> That's indeterminate.

05:02 <TheWalrus> Also no one person invented rock n roll

05:02 <Verandure> If that was the test for getting into magic school, the chances are very high that he'd be hatched by somepony.

05:02 <Muffin_Spectacles> Some even pointed out, how would we know if the ponies would even have the same cutie marks without the rainboom helping them find their special talent?

05:03 <CrassyPaddles> Muffin_Spectacles, we see them get it though. don't we? NMM's Rarity

05:03 <Muffin_Spectacles> Also, one has to wonder: was there some alternate 'Mane 6' that Celestia recruited that managed to find the elements and finish off Nightmare Moon, before the Sombra invasion?

05:03 <KooK> Pretty - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139055

05:03 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: Well, they get cutie marks, but one has to wonderif they would even be the same...or for that matte,r why would Pinkie have curly hair?

05:04 <Verandure> Or why Applejack wouldn't be with the Oranges.

05:04 <CrassyPaddles> dunno. Butterfly effect

05:04 <Verandure> In multiple futures, Fluttershy stays in Cloudsdale instead of falling to the ground and staying there.

05:04 <CrassyPaddles> If your a fan fic writer, fill in the gaps yourself

05:04 <Thelema5> The ponies would /still/ have the same special talents... they just wouldn't be bonded by getting their marks together at the same time.

05:05 <CrassyPaddles> it's not inconsistent that they do

05:05 <CrassyPaddles> it's not a contradiction that somehow they mane 5 end up with the same cutie marks.

05:05 <Verandure> Like Thelema5 said.

05:05 <Barry_From_Mars> Bye now.

05:05 <Muffin_Spectacles> But one has to also think of the CMC: it was a special coming together that managed to get them their special marks. I doubt they would have had such specific marks is they had never formed their group.

05:06 <Thelema5> Other scenerios would have played out for them to find their special talent.

05:06 <Muffin_Spectacles> ...plus, why isn't there a larger outcry that they didn't just outright say Granny Smith was killed in the Sombra universe, since the fandom just loves to know who is dead-dead-deadsky.

05:06 <Verandure> They aren't shown in any future, it's unclear if they even exist.

05:06 <CrassyPaddles> we never see the CMC in any of the alternate timelines.

05:06 <CrassyPaddles> Muffin_Spectacles, people really care that much about it?

05:06 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: So, most likely, their parents were killed.

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05:07 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: Well, I heard people go nuts when AJ said 'if Mom and Dad were here' in 'Crusaders.' The fandom seems to be out for unseen blood, as if to say, "don't make us assume the parents are dead, I want proof that their corpses are wormfood!"

05:07 <Verandure> There's a lot of interesting possibilities with the episode. Did Sombra defeat Nightmare Moon, himself? How did Discord turn Luna good?

05:07 <CrassyPaddles> also, maybe in the NMM timeline, or the chrysalis timeline, or the Tirek timeline, sombra and discord never happened.

05:07 <TheWalrus> Muffin_Spectacles: the fandom loves to know who is dead? only references I can think of to dead characters ar AJ's parents

05:08 <CrassyPaddles> heavily implied

05:08 <Muffin_Spectacles> TheWalrus: Feels that way...that, or any strand of proof regarding pony lesbianism.

05:08 <CrassyPaddles> not verified or proven in a rigorous way though

05:08 <TheWalrus> on which note http://lavendire.tumblr.com/post/134220459769/this-was-my-boyfriends-idea-im-not-sure-what

05:08 <Verandure> It's funny, 'cause there were also a large number of possible futures where Equestria turns out just fine.

05:10 <CrassyPaddles> TheWalrus, that's a beautiful comic

05:10 <CrassyPaddles> Verandure, are there?

05:10 <Muffin_Spectacles> I was surprised why Starlight just didn't go back to her childhood and kill her former friend's parents. "They took him away from me...so I made THEM...go away!!"

05:10 <CrassyPaddles> well, sombra, nmm, and FF, it's not complete crap

05:10 <Kalastraer> hi

05:10 <Verandure> It's possible that without the race, there'd be another factor that drew them together and gave them simultaneous marks.

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05:11 <CrassyPaddles> Muffin_Spectacles, it's not surprising. SG was driven mostly by spiteful revenge when she came up with the time travelling spell.

05:11 <Verandure> It's possible that another set of simultaneous mark acquisition would lead to a different group of elements of harmony.

05:11 * Sour_Sweet snuggles the sleeping Electron^Napping. "No pony will ever know about it!" ;-)

05:11 <CrassyPaddles> Verandure, they don't need to be simultaneous mark getting to have the same marks in different time lines.

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05:12 <Verandure> The point of the speech at the beginning was to show that them getting their marks at the same time was what was important.

05:12 <CrassyPaddles> in terms of their collective friendship magic? yes.

05:12 <CrassyPaddles> but not important to them getting the marks they have.

05:12 <Muffin_Spectacles> I feel what could have made the ending stronger, woulod be if Starlight left, but left a note saying she was definitely going to think about what Twilight told her...like she had to go off and think about this herself.

05:12 <Verandure> And the collective friendship magic is what stopped all those future events from happening.

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05:12 *** Twilight_Sparkle_is_Hot is now known as GoS

05:12 <GoS> :I

05:13 <Muffin_Spectacles> Verandure: And cemented Rainbow DAsh now having a forever-after ego about how super-important she is. "Yeah, without my super-awesome birth, Ponyville would be toast!"

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05:13 <CrassyPaddles> Verandure, without the collective friendship event, equestria is screwed.

05:13 <Verandure> Yes.

05:13 <GoS> RD is cute when she's egotistic

05:14 <CrassyPaddles> it's just weird how we see different villains take over though in each of the timelines.

05:14 <Muffin_Spectacles> "I think I know what led us down this path?" "What?" "I'm not sure yet, but I only heard one word...Faust."

05:14 <CrassyPaddles> yet we see that their cutie marks are the same.

05:14 <CrassyPaddles> Muffin_Spectacles, what's that from?

05:14 <Verandure> That's just a narrative device, the different futures are just an escalation.

05:14 <Verandure> Though the Flim Flam brothers are an enigma.

05:14 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: I made it up...but I'm waiting for someone to put something like that into a fanfic, because they surely will.

05:14 <GoS> There's a good chance they didn't need the rainboom to get the same CMs

05:15 <GoS> They already had the talent before hand

05:15 <Verandure> Their purpose is industrialization which is portrayed as apocalyptic?

05:15 <GoS> sonic rainboom just helped it happen

05:15 <Thelema5> Old people were freaking crazy party animals back in the day:

05:15 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/3svvCj4yhYc

05:15 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

05:15 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Flappers - The Roaring Twenties

05:15 <Muffin_Spectacles> Verandure: Obviously, Dash has become a Jabba the Hutt-like Cider tyrant, forcing them to make her gallons of the stuff.

05:15 <GoS> before hoof*

05:15 <CrassyPaddles> Verandure, it's not that bad. If you look at the flim flam scene, the pollution is local.

05:15 <CrassyPaddles> there's also no reason to believe that they took over the world,

05:15 <CrassyPaddles> just that they're industrializing ponyville

05:16 <Schism> Okay, yes, this tomato, bacon, sauerkraut and cheese sandwich is pure awesome...!

05:16 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: Flim and Flam have become 'The 1 %!!"

05:16 <GoS> Flim and Flam are the evilest villains confirmed by twilight

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05:16 <Verandure> The color pallet still suggests that it's some horrific event along the lines of the Tirek future, the dead planet future, or the Sombra future.

05:16 <Thelema5> Schism, I'll have to try that once my Sauerkraut stabilizes.

05:16 <Schism> Yus, without a doubt.

05:17 <Thelema5> Would you suggest a sourdough bread, as well?

05:17 <GoS> The last future was probably due to derpy turing into princess and ruling over Equestria

05:17 <CrassyPaddles> I guess the finale says that all the villains in MLP so far are pretty evenly matched, and it's just the smallest of margins that determines who edges out who

05:17 <Schism> Thelema5: Yes... sourdough sounds right for this.  This one's just on white bread, though toasted.

05:17 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> !link https://youtu.be/yzIxLwVwtiQ

05:17 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Jack is Back | Samurai Jack | Adult Swim

05:17 <Muffin_Spectacles> GoS: No, it was Faust suffering a fatal Heart Attack.

05:17 <GoS> :(

05:17 <CrassyPaddles> Verandure, the color pallet only if you look in the direction of F and F. If you look away from them, you see nice bright colors.

05:17 <Thelema5> Toasted sourdough with butter is simply divine

05:17 <Schism> ...

05:18 <Schism> I am saddened by the fact that the top Google search results for 'The Lorax' are related to the 2012 movie.

05:18 <Muffin_Spectacles> I now have ACRaceBest in my head again: "...we're going to forgive her, aren't we?"

05:18 <GoS> Rarity calls everything divine

05:18 <Verandure> I'd need to go back and look into it.

05:18 <Muffin_Spectacles> Schism: Well, it is the internet: people search out what they hate moreso than love.

05:18 <Verandure> I'd still like to know how Luna is good in Discord's future.

05:18 <CrassyPaddles> https://youtu.be/2EbxYC1Sl6Y?t=11m20s

05:18 <CrassyPaddles> there you go

05:18 <Thelema5> I knew someone once who had a 120 year old sourdough starter under her care- she offered to send me a portion, and I stupidly declined.

05:18 <Verandure> Could it be that the mane 6 just lost against him and didn't become friends, again?

05:18 <CrassyPaddles> Verandure, tia manages to talk Luna down.

05:19 <GoS> there's the possibility of Celestia using the EoH herself to cure Luna

05:19 <Schism> Thelema5: Eeee, that IS a shame.  @_@

05:19 <CrassyPaddles> Verandure, or that.

05:19 <Muffin_Spectacles> Maybe in one of the alternate futures, it was Sunset Shimmer and another 'MAne 6 that did the trick.

05:19 <Thelema5> I was young and dumb, Schism.

05:19 <CrassyPaddles> or that

05:19 <Schism> We were all young and dumb.

05:19 * Muffin_Spectacles still believes Celestia has a horrible character flaw of only wanting to train pupils with names about light at the end of the day, due to the trauma of sending her sister away.

05:19 <GoS> Starlight is the new Twilight

05:19 <Thelema5> Her family had kept the same culture going for 3 generations

05:19 <Verandure> Celestia lost the ability to use the EoH after banishing Luna to the moon.

05:19 <Verandure> She says as much in an earlier episode.

05:19 * CrassyPaddles still believes that celestia is a horrible character period.

05:20 <Schism> Thelema5: That's absolutely insane and awesome.

05:20 <CrassyPaddles> this episode super confirms that.

05:20 <Thelema5> Right?

05:20 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: Well, "you either die a hero...or you live long enough for the fans to claim you to be a villain."

05:20 <GoS> I think they ran out of ideas for the Mane 6 and now we're going to witness a new pony learning about the same lessons of friendship

05:20 <Verandure> Maybe we should come up with <celestial body>light <Synonym for flicker> names and send them all to the writers so they can't use them in the show.

05:20 <CrassyPaddles> Muffin_Spectacles, except it's not even what she did now, but what she did in the past.

05:21 <Snapai> Starlight needs some siblings

05:21 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, I'd like to see them redeem tirek

05:21 <Snapai> Starlight, Starbright, First Star, and Icy Tonight.

05:21 <GoS> Celestia could be a good character if they wrote an episode for her

05:21 <GoS> at least

05:21 <Muffin_Spectacles> Tirek reminds me of the oen guy i saw on a bus - he kept repeating racial slurs every 5 minutes, like it was his credo.

05:21 <GoS> CrassyPaddle Tirek is beyond halp

05:21 <KooK> I need some egg nog

05:22 <GoS> Starlight wasn't truly evil

05:22 <Thelema5> Eww, egg nog...

05:22 <KooK> wut

05:22 <KooK> How can you not like egg nog?

05:22 <Verandure> Starlight was really quick to give up her philosophy, though.

05:22 <Snapai> My mom doesn't like eggnog. She also doesn't like egg anything.

05:22 <Verandure> Everypony seems to be really open minded with that kind of thing.

05:22 <GoS> cuz writers rished the ending

05:22 <GoS> They ran out of time in the finale

05:22 <Muffin_Spectacles> Verandure: Well, usually most megalomaniacal crazies are waiting for someone to go, "you want to know my story!? About time you understood my brilliance!"

05:23 <GoS> and needed to wrap things up

05:23 <KooK> I drink probably a gallon of the stuff a week starting Thanksgiving

05:23 <Thelema5> A guy I knew once drank a half gallon of the stuff in one sitting, like chugged the stuff.  This happened underground, in an abandoned mine.

05:23 <KooK> By the time December is done, I'm sick of it

05:23 <Cocobed> Eh, I like mine with ice cream and nutmeg

05:23 <Thelema5> He puked for 10 minutes afterward, and I had to drag him towards the light.  It wasn't a good christmas.

05:24 <GoS> does egg nog taste like egg?

05:24 <KooK> Not at all

05:24 <Verandure> By the time Thanksgiving gets here, I'm sick of Christmas.

05:24 <Cocobed> Getting a friends puke on you can be a drag

05:24 <Muffin_Spectacles> At this time, it's hard for me to find 'Christmas Cheer' with the insanity at this time.

05:24 * Verandure noms on Cocobed.

05:24 <Thelema5> For real.

05:24 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, they didn't even try with tirek?

05:24 <Verandure> but not on the parts with vomitus.

05:24 * Cocobed noms Verandure

05:24 <GoS> CrassyPaddle they couldn't even find him.

05:24 <Cocobed> x3

05:25 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, he was in tartarus.

05:25 <KooK> Egg nog is hard to describe, it's thick and sweet, kind of like drinking a cheese cake

05:25 <Muffin_Spectacles> Tirek was like Zod in 'Man of Steel,' pretty much unable to move outside of his own mindset of who is superior.

05:25 <Snapai> I am in the Christmas spirit!

05:25 <Snapai> Know how I know?

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05:25 <Verandure> They only seem to work to redeem ponies.

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05:25 <Thelema5> KooK, admit it- it's gross thick slime

05:25 <CrassyPaddles> Verandure, discord?

05:25 <GoS> CrassyPaddles The Mane 6 didn't know he existed, and Celestia isn't as soft as them

05:25 <Verandure> Isn't redeemed, he was always chaotic and continues to be.

05:25 <Muffin_Spectacles> Though one has to wonder: did Discord's rampage happen prior to being imprisoned?

05:26 <KooK> Thelema5 - I don't know what egg nog you've had but some of it really is crap, some of it's good

05:26 <Verandure> I kid, you got me.

05:26 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, but she's getting a lot softer now. She's trying to make friends with everyone.

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05:26 <Muffin_Spectacles> And of course the fans will go, "no sign of Cadance, I TOLD YOU she was useless!"

05:26 <Thelema5> KooK, I guess just crap

05:26 <CrassyPaddles> Verandure, he's not turning the world into crazy town. That's reformed enough.

05:26 <Snapai> The other day I was driving to work, and realized the song stuck in my head - o/~ Remember when we first met John McClane? Argyle picked him up from the plane, and took him down to Nakitomi Tower... to meet with Holly! o/~

05:26 <Snapai> Die Hard is always the true sign of the holidays ;p

05:26 <CrassyPaddles> Muffin_Spectacles, which discord rampage?

05:26 <Cocobed> I just noticed the second K is capitalized..

05:26 <GoS> CrassyPaddle Yeah but it's obvious to see who's truly evil or not, like Discord or Sombra

05:27 <Verandure> Muffin_Spectacles, would Shining Armor have made royal guard if Twilight wasn't hoof-picked by Celestia?

05:27 <Thelema5> lol

05:27 <KooK> http://www.aedairy.com/images/products/Egg_Nog_Classic.JPG

05:27 <KooK> This is where it's at

05:27 <GoS> Discord is only chaotic and is capable of reasoning

05:27 <Schism> Snapai: But does your mom eat eggplant?

05:27 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: Whether if what we saw was his rampage the first time when his brother called on StarSwirl, or if somehow he escaped after imprisonment.

05:27 <GoS> Sombra won't even spare you a minute to talk to you

05:27 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, so is Tirek.

05:27 <KooK> I live about 15 minutes from the Anderson Erickson factory

05:27 <Thelema5> Nope, nuh uh, not happening.

05:27 <Verandure> Sombra still has no lines.

05:27 <CrassyPaddles> Muffin_Spectacles, discord has a borther?

05:28 <GoS> CrassyPaddles Remember he had his chance. Back then his brother tried t befriend ponies

05:28 <Verandure> Best character.

05:28 * Cocobed add vanilla ice cream and brandy, and sprinkles a little cinnamon and nutmeg on top.

05:28 <Snapai> o/~ We're gonna Die (DIE!) Die (DIE!) Die (DIE!) Die Hard! We're gonna Die (DIE!) Die (DIE!) Die as Hard as we can! Yippie-kay-yayyyyy, motherbuckers- o/~

05:28 <GoS> CrassyPaddles he just plain hated them for whatever reason

05:28 <Thelema5> I mentally smell vomit and mildew

05:28 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, so did Discord have his chance then he betrayed everyone.

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05:28 <CrassyPaddles> as did Luna

05:28 <Snapai> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTyw6cq86kY

05:28 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Die Hard - Music Video - NEW 4th Verse!

05:28 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: I meant Tirek...it's late and I was partying during a NBA game with workmates...I have my excuses.

05:28 <Twilight`Sparkle> no excuses.

05:28 <Thelema5> My friend ruined eggnog for me forever.

05:29 <CrassyPaddles> so the rampage that we saw of Tirek in the finale?

05:29 <Twilight`Sparkle> What about it?

05:29 <GoS> CrassyPaddles Discord like I said never hated them. He was just chaotic.

05:29 <CrassyPaddles> Was his first rampage way back then in the past?

05:29 <Cocobed> I have to admit I would never want to try egg nog straight up by itself without adding anything, that does gross me out

05:29 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: Yeah, trying to figure if it was his first Equestrian rampage, or the return of the red-skinned demon.

05:29 <Verandure> How could it be the first?

05:30 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, You don't think Luna hated Celestia and the ponies?

05:30 <KooK> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ioVmUgaBM

05:30 *** Eventide is now known as Eventide|Sleepies

05:30 <Verandure> That happened before any of the mane 6 were born

05:30 <Muffin_Spectacles> Verandure: Well, the timeline was pretty messed up - in the one, Discord seemed to already be in fulll control of Ponyville just as Twilight and Spike arrived.

05:30 <CrassyPaddles> You don't think being imprisoned for eons would make discord hate them as well?

05:30 <Twilight`Sparkle> CrassyPaddles: we have basically no context for the rampage as shown in the Season Finale.

05:30 <Snapai> Notice with the season finale, they kept to their rule of not bringing EQG into the main storyline.

05:30 <GoS> CrassyPaddles Luna hated being in the shadow of her sister.

05:30 <Twilight`Sparkle> One assumes based on what little context we have that it is occurring in roughly the present.

05:30 <Twilight`Sparkle> But, hey.

05:31 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: Maybe they figured it'd work like the Kryptonians in Man of Steel felt about 'imprisoning Zod in the Phantom Zone would make him see the light.'

05:31 <GoS> CrassyPaddles And Luna only turned evil with the help of dark magic

05:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> It coould be whenever!

05:31 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, It's said as much in the show by twilight.

05:31 <Snapai> Would be interesting if they did an EQG short that tied into the finale, with Sunset having broken the barriers between worlds or whatever.

05:31 <CrassyPaddles> The spell brings them back to the corresponding present time of that timeline.

05:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> Thus, the rampage is occuring in the present.

05:31 <GoS> CrassyPaddles Tirek had no reason to hate equestrians. He just wanted to rule

05:31 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, the dark magic? Talking about the comics?

05:32 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, so did NMM.

05:32 <GoS> CrassyPaddle Nope. From season 4.

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05:32 <Verandure> It goes the other way. EqG3 references the finale of S5 with the time loop

05:32 <CrassyPaddles> there's no argument you can make for the irredeamability of Tirek that can't be made for Luna, Sunset, Discord, and Starlight.

05:32 <GoS> CrassyPaddle I don't fully remember, but it was some black seed sprout spreading across the land

05:32 <Twilight`Sparkle> Season 4 opener.

05:33 <Twilight`Sparkle> Twilight drinks a potion that lets her see the past.

05:33 <Thelema5> Seeds of Discord

05:33 <Twilight`Sparkle> Luna takes on NMM form by casting a spell.

05:33 <GoS> Ah right

05:33 <GoS> That

05:33 <GoS> So tell me CrassyPaddles

05:33 <Twilight`Sparkle> CrassyPaddles: Here's my argument for the irredeemability of Tirek.

05:33 <GoS> Why do you think Tirek is evil in the first place?

05:34 <Twilight`Sparkle> Tirek didn't repent.

05:34 <GoS> Everyone else had some sort of motive

05:34 <GoS> even if it wasn't that reasonable

05:34 <Twilight`Sparkle> Can't be redeemed if you don't repent.

05:34 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, I don't see Tirek as being any more messed up as Luna and Discord after being imprisoned for years.

05:34 <GoS> Because Tirek is unchangable

05:34 <GoS> Do you really think

05:34 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, that's bad reasoning.

05:34 <GoS> They could negotiate with him

05:34 <CrassyPaddles> Luna didn't repent once. Can't be redeemed

05:34 <Twilight`Sparkle> What do you mean, it's bad reasoning?

05:34 <CrassyPaddles> Neither did Discord, can't be redeemed

05:34 <Twilight`Sparkle> Luna totes repented.

05:35 <GoS> It wasn't about repenting

05:35 <Verandure> Luna was magicked out of Nightmare Moon.

05:35 <CrassyPaddles> Not right after she turned. She was given a chance. Didn't take it.

05:35 <GoS> It was about the motive behind why they were doing what they did

05:35 <Verandure> Tirek was magicked out of magic but was still evil

05:35 <GoS> Tirek didn;t have any other motive but for destrution

05:35 <Twilight`Sparkle> You think you only get one chance to repent?

05:35 <CrassyPaddles> Discord as well. He was given a chance and then BETRAYED them, not repenting.

05:35 <GoS> Repent had nothing to do with it

05:35 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, if you get multiple chances for repenting, why not for Tirek?

05:36 <GoS> But when i said Tirek had his chance, it was just to show he could care less about being good ever

05:36 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, the repenting thing is with Twilight`Sparkle. I'm not addressing your claims atm.

05:36 <Twilight`Sparkle> Incarceration is a consequence of his continued stance of "I will rule"

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05:36 <CrassyPaddles> and iirc, Tirek wasn't even given a CHANCE to repent.

05:36 <GoS> That's why i said

05:36 <GoS> Celestia isn;t as soft

05:36 <GoS> as the mane 6

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05:36 <Twilight`Sparkle> Well, let's be clear

05:36 <CrassyPaddles> He was just blasted w/ rainbows, turned into a tiny man, and then locked right back up.

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05:37 <GoS> and the Mane 6 didnt know of him

05:37 <Twilight`Sparkle> we don't know how Tartarus works and whether the rulers can visit.

05:37 <Verandure> Luna was blasted with rainbows and turned good.

05:37 <Twilight`Sparkle> I'd imagine that, yes, they can.

05:37 <Muffin_Spectacles> "MArk my words, inferior ponies, I will get out of here, and conquer you...and you TOO, Canada!"

05:37 <Verandure> Ergo getting blasted with rainbows makes you good, otherwise you're irredeemable.

05:37 <GoS> Luna wasn't originally evil she had a bit of jealousy

05:37 <Twilight`Sparkle> wouldn't be beyond the possible for Tirek to be let out on parole.

05:37 <CrassyPaddles> Verandure, nope. Discord.

05:37 <Verandure> Turned to stone

05:38 <Verandure> Because he is neither good nor evil

05:38 <Verandure> He's chaotic.

05:38 <CrassyPaddles> or...EoH users have no control over the effects, or maybe they do.

05:38 <Twilight`Sparkle> Eh, seems like they don't.

05:38 <Verandure> Celestia and Luna turned him into stone, too.

05:39 <CrassyPaddles> Verandure, the effects of the EoH could be quite random.

05:39 <GoS> He's a chaotic being who is negotiable

05:39 <Twilight`Sparkle> Tree of Harmony, and it's offspring/byproducts, seem to have a mind of their own.

05:39 <Verandure> It's called the Script!

05:39 <CrassyPaddles> what if we say that the EoH effects ARE controlled by the users?

05:39 <GoS> ahaha

05:39 <CrassyPaddles> could that work?

05:39 <Twilight`Sparkle> What is the purpose of doing so?

05:39 <GoS> Hmmm if they were

05:40 <CrassyPaddles> could such a hypothesis work though?

05:40 <GoS> I;m sure Celestia would've cured Luna

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05:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> Well, think about it and let me know.

05:40 <GoS> but maybe it can

05:40 <GoS> Maybe The mane 6 had better controll of it

05:40 <CrassyPaddles> GoS, are we sure that Celestia would have wanted to cure Luna?

05:40 <GoS> so yeah it's a possibility

05:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> Based on all available evidence, yes.

05:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> She would have.

05:40 <GoS> Well she is her sister

05:40 <Verandure> Luna and Celestia wouldn't have known that turning Discord to stone would do anything.

05:40 <CrassyPaddles> It's clear through the finale that ALL that initial banishment was is just a power strugle.

05:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> ...All?

05:40 <CrassyPaddles> A power struggle pure and simple. Politics.

05:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> You sure 'bout that?

05:40 <GoS> Yeah Celestia is just weak

05:41 <GoS> I don;t like how they made her so weak lol

05:41 <CrassyPaddles> Luna wanted more power, and Tia wasn't having any of that.

05:41 <Twilight`Sparkle> You absolutely, one hundred percent positive that's /all/ it was?

05:41 <GoS> or maybe rusty

05:41 <Twilight`Sparkle> Willing to swear before a court of peers?

05:41 <CrassyPaddles> consider the common argument used to justify Tia's banishing of Luna.

05:41 <Twilight`Sparkle> Tears notwithstanding?

05:42 <CrassyPaddles> something about eternal night meaning the death of everything.

05:42 <GoS> Ehhh

05:42 <CrassyPaddles> As we can see in the NMM timeline, flat out wrong.

05:42 <Twilight`Sparkle> Sure, that's the common explanation given by the fandom, but that's not ever presented in the show itself.

05:42 <CrassyPaddles> It's been at least 2 years since NMM took over, and Equestria is fine.

05:42 <GoS> It just means a more tyranic ruler over Equestria

05:42 <CrassyPaddles> She's a hard ruler, but the ponies are pretty well off.

05:42 <KooK> I wonder what goose burgers taste like

05:42 <Twilight`Sparkle> From what tiny little bit we see... perhaps.

05:43 <GoS> KooK like goose

05:43 <KooK> You sure?

05:43 <GoS> Nope

05:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> But, let's be clear, we see NMM and some of the mane 6.

05:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> That's all.

05:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> We get nothing on the rest of Equestria. That's a big ol' question mark.

05:43 <KooK> I bet goose burgers would taste like A1 with a little A1 on them :P

05:43 <GoS> Yeah. There wasn't enough time to show everything in that world

05:43 <CrassyPaddles> the everfree looks fine, so do the woods surrounding the castle.

05:43 <GoS> at that timeline

05:43 <GoS> the only problem would be

05:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> Sure. But that means that the everfree is fine.

05:44 * Cepheid returns!

05:44 <Muffin_Spectacles> NMM seems to rule through Tyranny, but seems to willingly let there be creativity, given Rarity's fahsion sense.

05:44 <GoS> it's dark

05:44 <Twilight`Sparkle> The rest is still a big ol' question mark.

05:44 <GoS> and more crimes

05:44 <GoS> idk

05:44 <CrassyPaddles> https://youtu.be/2EbxYC1Sl6Y?t=7m12s

05:44 <GoS> is there ever any crimes in EQ

05:44 <Twilight`Sparkle> Should be noted, also, that the ponies we see don't really look happy. Resigned, basically.

05:44 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, you're going to operate off the assumption that any part of the show you're not seeing is in chaos?

05:44 <Twilight`Sparkle> No.

05:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> But I'm also not going to say that it's clearly fine, either.

05:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> I'm saying it's a question mark. We don't know.

05:45 <GoS> NMM is only tyranny and not total destruction of their world. Which is probably the best world to live in ruled by a villain

05:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> Therefore, the state of Equestria under Nightmare Moon cannot be considered.

05:45 * Cepheid flops.

05:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> We don't /know/ what it is.

05:45 <CrassyPaddles> The same argument could be applied to any part of equestria we don't see in each episode.

05:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> So in the original altercation between Celestia and Luna, it doesn't really help to give more context.

05:46 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yes, that is true.

05:46 <GoS> But it's stated that they sometimes have tourists

05:46 <Twilight`Sparkle> I don't see the problem with that.

05:46 <GoS> in the castle

05:46 <GoS> Meaning NMM isn't all that bad

05:46 <Verandure> So... why does nightmare moon have the power to banish Celestia to the moon without the use of the elements of harmony?

05:46 <Twilight`Sparkle> Dunno.

05:46 <MarsToSirius> Oooh boy, a finale discussion!

05:46 <Verandure> Is she that much stronger than Celestia just through hatred?

05:46 <GoS> The moon is her specialty

05:46 <MarsToSirius> ... Yes.

05:47 <Twilight`Sparkle> Entirely possible!

05:47 <GoS> She dont need no helements

05:47 <MarsToSirius> It's been well establishedmultiple times that, well, Celestia is not as strong as she used to be.

05:47 <CrassyPaddles> the problem is that it's strange to say that in other episodes, we assume that the rest of equestria is fine, even though we can't see it, but then to adopt this skepticism in the same scenario for the NMM timeline.

05:47 <Cepheid> Hum...

05:47 <GoS> The only reason i could think of for why elestia is weak, is because she used her powers making the EoH

05:47 <Cepheid> I should purchase some RAM for my PC.  So I can move the 8GB I got in it into the server machine.

05:47 <Twilight`Sparkle> MMmmm... no, I'm not seeing a disconnect here.

05:47 <GoS> Celestia*

05:47 <Verandure> Celestia didn't make them, though.

05:47 <GoS> downloadmoreram.com

05:48 <Verandure> They just took them from the McGuffin tree.

05:48 <GoS> she didn't?

05:48 <GoS> oh

05:48 <MarsToSirius> GoS - that's not a bad conclusion tbh. And honestly, why else do you appoint other princesses as proteges besides naming successors after you pass on?

05:48 <GoS> hmmm i remembered that wrong

05:48 <MarsToSirius> ya that's true

05:48 <GoS> well she materialized them into a useable magic. how about that?

05:48 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, why do you think the rest of equestria IS NOT fine after seeing the good condition the land next to the castle is in?

05:48 <Twilight`Sparkle> I don't think it isn't.

05:48 <Twilight`Sparkle> I don't think it is, either.

05:48 <Twilight`Sparkle> I'm saying we don't know what state it's in.

05:48 <CrassyPaddles> okay

05:48 <MarsToSirius> It most likely isn't "fine" because of eternal night, but Nightmare Moon didn't want to destroy anything.

05:49 <MarsToSirius> SHe's just the Emperor Palpatine of Equestria.

05:49 <Twilight`Sparkle> And thus we should not be considering it as evidence towards Nightmare Moon having done nothing wrong.

05:49 <GoS> It's not fine. But for a world ruled by a villain, it's pretty darn decent

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05:49 <MarsToSirius> It's no hellhole a la Sombra or... uh... nothingness

05:49 <CrassyPaddles> then in the lady gaga episode, you only see a PART of equestria. Do you adopt the same dual skepticism about the state the rest of equestria is in as well?

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05:49 <Twilight`Sparkle> Basically, to base an argument on the idea that the world is fine under Nightmare Moon is flawed.

05:49 <GoS> Sombra is a slave driver

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05:50 <MarsToSirius> But it's not exactly Shangri-La either

05:50 <Gladiolus> i don't cae i like nmm

05:50 <GoS> Tirek kills all da trees

05:50 <Gladiolus> I wanna live under her.

05:50 <Gladiolus> NMM world best world, forever.

05:50 * Gladiolus crosses arms.

05:50 <MarsToSirius> It's night 24/7, it's a powerful despot ruling the land instead of a wise pacifist

05:50 <CrassyPaddles> Gladiolus, NMM's scene is literally my favorite scene in the series

05:50 <Twilight`Sparkle> CrassyPaddles: ah, but you see, Mane Attraction is an episode that was preceded by many other episodes showing multiple parts of Equestria.

05:50 <Twilight`Sparkle> And all within the same timeline and system of government.

05:50 <CrassyPaddles> definitely my favorite villain scene of the series.

05:50 <Gladiolus> She can rule o... wait a second there's no way to finish this in a PG13 manner.

05:50 <GoS> Man i wish they had invovled NNM more into the plot. She seemed like she was going to get in on the main storyline

05:50 <CrassyPaddles> https://youtu.be/2EbxYC1Sl6Y?t=8m5s

05:51 <Muffin_Spectacles> I just wish something else could have come close to Starlight telling the kids about how 'equality is good.'

05:51 <Twilight`Sparkle> All evidence up until Mane Attraction points to Equestria being a well-adjusted society of fairly happy ponies.

05:51 <Gladiolus> Season Six!

05:51 <CrassyPaddles> Gladiolus, just that atmosphere, dat music, DAT ANIMATION.

05:51 <GoS> Like wanted to use the time traveling spell for herself

05:51 <MarsToSirius> That would have made the story just one gigantic mess, and it was already about to burst

05:51 <Twilight`Sparkle> The clip with NMM, on the other hand, does not have /any/ of that context for that particular setting.

05:51 <Twilight`Sparkle> There are no other episodes set within the world in which NMM rules.

05:51 <Gladiolus> Season Six!

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05:52 <Gladiolus> Go all Star-Trek alt reality on this business

05:52 * MarsToSirius noms on Season six.

05:52 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, yet all the evidence that we DO see shows that Equestria is fine.

05:52 <Gladiolus> muuu

05:52 <Muffin_Spectacles> I still felt that Chrysalis' return was moreso fanservice...then again, maybe they cut an alternate future where Trixie did take over everything...since everyone seems to think she's the greatest sub-character of all time.

05:52 * Gladiolus baps MarsToSirius

05:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> And that evidence is extremely limited.

05:52 <MarsToSirius> The evidence of... a walk in the forest.

05:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> We see the castle, adn the woods.

05:52 <MarsToSirius> k

05:52 <GoS> Season 6 Mane 7 ponies galore

05:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> That's it.

05:52 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, then you can't make sweeping claims either for normal equestria.

05:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> I'm not.

05:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> Normal Equestria, we have seen:

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05:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> Cloudsdale, Ponyville, Appleloosa, Crystal Empire, Everfree, Canterlot, Manehattan...

05:53 <MarsToSirius> Equestria, in its normal form, is peaceful and tranquil, until such threats arise for the girls to combat, beat back/solve, and for the status quo to reestablish itself

05:53 <Twilight`Sparkle> And some more, I think.

05:53 <CrassyPaddles> if you wanted to be consistent with your skepticism, you'd have to say that only the places we HAVE seen in normal equestria we can say are fine. The MANY MANY spots we haven't seen? We'd have to adopt the SAME skepticism that you adopt for the rest of Equestria in NMM's timeline.

05:53 <MarsToSirius> Define "fine".

05:53 <CrassyPaddles> not apocalyptic.

05:53 <MarsToSirius> Because I know you by now. Obviously Twilight and you are not seeing eye to eye on this.

05:53 <Twilight`Sparkle> Mmmm... I see what you're saying, but you're also ignoring that conclusions can be drawn from the weight of evidence and pattern recognition.

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05:54 <Twilight`Sparkle> Ponyville is doing well, as are those other places that are shown within the show.

05:54 <MarsToSirius> So because we don't see all the world at once we can safely assume everywhere other than Manehattan and Ponyville is being sucked into a singularity?

05:54 <Twilight`Sparkle> It can be logically inferred that the rest of Equestria follows this pattern, with outliers, of course, such as the hills.

05:54 <Twilight`Sparkle> The problem with the NMM scenario, however...

05:54 <CrassyPaddles> there are spots in ponyville that we haven't seen, and plenty of spots in cloudsdale, canterlot, etc.

05:54 <Twilight`Sparkle> is that we have a single point of data.

05:54 <MarsToSirius> I imagine there'd be a /bit/ more chaos and commotion in the streets of Equestria if next door was the end of all days

05:54 <Twilight`Sparkle> From which we cannot draw any conclusions.

05:55 <MarsToSirius> No one's saying every single square mile of Equestria is perfectly fine\

05:55 <Twilight`Sparkle> A data /set/ allows for extra conclusions to be drawn.

05:55 <MarsToSirius> But *overall* it's at a good state

05:55 <MarsToSirius> Celestia reigns, peace prevails, blablabla

05:55 <Twilight`Sparkle> A single point of data... well, all you can say is that the everfree appears to be alive.

05:55 <Gladiolus> The single pooint is that Luna is ruling.

05:55 <Gladiolus> Therefore it is the best world.

05:55 <Gladiolus> Because Luna is best pony forever.

05:55 <Gladiolus> So there.

05:55 <MarsToSirius> And Rarity is a lieutenant of hers in a fancy get-up.

05:56 * MarsToSirius eyebrow-wiggles.

05:56 <Gladiolus> mmm night maid rarity.

05:56 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, then you're making a sweeping claim about all of equestria, i.e. generalizing from the sample to the poopulation.

05:56 <Twilight`Sparkle> I don't believe so.

05:56 <CrassyPaddles> Gladiolus, unbeatable reasoning. Winner.

05:56 <MarsToSirius> What's even the point of this argument anymore? Are we still trying to prove Luna-verse was "fine?"

05:56 <Gladiolus> You don't have to.

05:56 <MarsToSirius> Because it clearly was not.

05:56 <Muffin_Spectacles> MarsToSirius: And Rarity is a Dragon-racist.

05:56 <Twilight`Sparkle> I believe I am drawing a reasonable conclusion based on the data.

05:57 * MarsToSirius frowns at Muffin_Spectacles. "Yeah... :<"

05:57 <Gladiolus> this convo is weird, you're all weird

05:57 * Gladiolus licks MarsToSirius

05:57 <CrassyPaddles> So you're making a statistical argument then?

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05:57 * MarsToSirius shivers.

05:57 <Gladiolus> o3o

05:57 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yes. I always have been.

05:57 <Twilight`Sparkle> My objection is that the NMM world /lacks enough data/

05:57 <Gladiolus> ur going in circles

05:57 * Gladiolus spins around

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05:57 <MarsToSirius> when in trouble, when in doubt / run in circles scream and shout

05:57 <CrassyPaddles> I thought what you were saying is that we can only make claims about the parts of the world we HAVE seen.

05:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> No.

05:58 <MarsToSirius> lolwut

05:58 <CrassyPaddles> but you mean that since we have seen so much of the world, we can make claims about the parts we haven't seen, based on statistics.

05:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> I'm saying that the NMM scenario does not work as evidence towards NMM being a good ruler because it is not a comprehensive look.

05:59 <MarsToSirius> We can draw

05:59 <MarsToSirius> r e a s o n a b l e   c o n c l u s i o n s

05:59 <CrassyPaddles> but that there's not enough of the world we've seen in the NMM world to be able to make the same claim about the rest of equestria?

05:59 <MarsToSirius> about the rest of the world, based upon the overall state of what we CAN see

05:59 <Twilight`Sparkle> "Celestia vs. Luna was a pure power struggle because in the Finale the Everfree was alive" does not make a good argument.

05:59 * Thelema5 seconds Gladiolus because he can't even make heads or tails of it from reading a log archive

06:00 <MarsToSirius> In the Lunaverse, there's a castle and then the Everfree. Our information about the world thus must come from how Luna and her servants, including Rarity, act.

06:00 <Muffin_Spectacles> Well, hasn't it already been established that Ponyville is pretty much the center of the world? It's the equivalent of a big city that never acknowledges this.

06:00 <MarsToSirius> No.

06:00 <Muffin_Spectacles> "Ponyville: Home of the World's saviors!" "...yawn..."

06:00 <MarsToSirius> Ponyville is the Anytown USA that everything just seems to happen in.

06:00 <Twilight`Sparkle> It's literally Smallville.

06:00 <Twilight`Sparkle> Just in pony world.

06:00 <CrassyPaddles> it's like what Baghdad is now.

06:01 <MarsToSirius> Sorry?

06:01 <Twilight`Sparkle> Except Baghdad is an urban center and Ponyville is more like ruraltown.

06:01 <CrassyPaddles> Used to be a shining become of civilization, but it's been vastly outstripped by other metropolises.

06:01 <Twilight`Sparkle> ...ponyville was never a metropolis.

06:01 * Thelema5 goes elsewhere for awhile

06:01 <Twilight`Sparkle> Frontier town.

06:01 <CrassyPaddles> well, the analogy isn't equivalence, hence why it's an analogy.

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06:02 <CrassyPaddles> The thrust of it is that Ponyville was once the center of the nation, i.e. Castle of the 2 sisters, and isn't now. So the same for Baghdad.

06:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> Well, yes, analogies are never the same, but I don't think baghdad and ponyville are analogous in any form.

06:02 <MarsToSirius> Baghdad is just like Ponyville, except in the parts where it's basically not like Ponyville at all

06:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> When it was the center?

06:02 <CrassyPaddles> MarsToSirius, exactly!

06:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> The everfree was the center.

06:02 <MarsToSirius> . _.

06:02 <MarsToSirius> </sarcasm>

06:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> Ponyville didn't exist until a long time after that castle was abandoned.

06:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> Remember that the town was founded within Granny's lifetime.

06:02 <CrassyPaddles> okay, I'll concede that point. Ponyville has never been a major town.

06:03 <CrassyPaddles> I conflated Ponyville with the everfree.

06:03 <Twilight`Sparkle> tsk tsk.

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06:04 <CrassyPaddles> the whole reason I brought up Lunaverse is b/c it refutes the idea that NMM taking over equals apocalypse for ponies.

06:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yes.

06:04 <CrassyPaddles> the whole "no sun means no photosynthesis, means everyone starves"

06:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> But on the other hand it doesn't mean that life is good, either.

06:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> Not like Sombra is an apocalypse scenario either.

06:04 <Midnight_Lilly> Luna taking over would just be less bright out

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06:05 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, do you think everyone away from the castle are starving or dead from starving?

06:05 <Midnight_Lilly> Because you know magic would stop ice age of course

06:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> No.

06:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> But I doubt they're necessarily happy with life.

06:05 <nightowl> hoot-hoot!

06:05 <Midnight_Lilly> Because magic!

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06:05 <CrassyPaddles> Midnight_Lilly, that's right.

06:05 <Muffin_Spectacles> They're probably subsisting on...muffins?

06:06 * Muffin_Spectacles still likes how Becca Shoichet voiced that line.

06:06 <CrassyPaddles> Maybe Luna is like the Roman Empire, who didn't care what you did so long as you paid taxes and bowed to the authority of the ruler.

06:06 <Midnight_Lilly> Can agree on what would happen? Magic is the the awnser! A awnser for everything!

06:06 <Twilight`Sparkle> And who also never let you see the sun.

06:07 <CrassyPaddles> I never see the sun anyways...

06:07 <CrassyPaddles> I stay in my basement all day

06:07 <Twilight`Sparkle> That explains it.

06:07 <Midnight_Lilly> Rome did ok Twilight`Sparkle

06:07 <CrassyPaddles> who needs it?

06:07 <CrassyPaddles> the ponies don't seem to.

06:07 <Midnight_Lilly> Sure a little more law would have been nice but as a citizen at the time you had a lot of freedoms

06:08 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yeah, but then, none of them were smiling, either.

06:08 <CrassyPaddles> without the apocalypse argument, Celestia's actions in the banishment don't seem NEARLY as selfless.

06:08 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, a lot of Roman subjects were smiling. B/c they weren't being brutalized by some savage.

06:08 <MarsToSirius> I want you to try to grow crops in pure moonlight.

06:08 <CrassyPaddles> MarsToSirius, magic

06:09 <MarsToSirius> Yeah, no.

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06:09 <CrassyPaddles> <Midnight_Lilly> Because you know magic would stop ice age of course

06:09 <Twilight`Sparkle> CrassyPaddles: I'm not talking about Rome, though, I'm talking about the ponies.

06:09 <MarsToSirius> That's not how magic works.

06:09 <Twilight`Sparkle> Who weren't smiling.

06:09 <CrassyPaddles> MarsToSirius, MLP verse plays pretty loose with the physics

06:09 <Midnight_Lilly> I agree with CrassyPaddles on the smiling thing Twilight`Sparkle. Not having to worry about a barbarian pillaging your town is a plus

06:09 <Twilight`Sparkle> Midnight_Lilly: true!

06:09 <Twilight`Sparkle> Buuuuuuut that's Rome.

06:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> And as I said.

06:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> I'm talking about ponies.

06:10 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, can you point to examples of Celestia's guards smiling?

06:10 <MarsToSirius> Physics != biology. And open-ended magical laws essentially means you cannot write a story because there are infinite solutions and obstacles to everything.

06:10 <GoS> poe knees

06:10 <CrassyPaddles> or her handmaidens?

06:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> She has handmaidens?

06:10 <Midnight_Lilly> Well you could use magic to alter plants to instead use moonlight instead of sunlight

06:10 <MarsToSirius> No, you can't.

06:10 <Muffin_Spectacles> "Spike, what are you doing?" "I'm sending a note to Celestia to give us some guards. AFter how easy it was for STarlight to get in he-" "Spike, no! I will have no such thing done!"

06:10 <Midnight_Lilly> Celestia is not a KoTOR Jedi her met CrassyPaddles

06:11 <GoS> MLP had a bunch of holes because it was a brand new, slice of life children's show that centered on the friendship on neighboring ponies. Now there's world exploring and adventure!!!

06:11 <CrassyPaddles> what

06:11 <MarsToSirius> Unless that was a specific spell written before, no unicorn could possibly be able to hold that power, especially when farmers tend to all be earth ponies due to the rigorous nature of the job and their connection with the earth.

06:11 <Midnight_Lilly> You don't get the reference you won't understand

06:11 <GoS> Pone adventure!

06:11 <Twilight`Sparkle> I like the think the only reason that stuff still grows is beause Celestia is locked in the moon.

06:11 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, I mean her secretary, the inkbutt pony. She never smiled either

06:11 <Twilight`Sparkle> Heyo, Power of the Sun!

06:12 <CrassyPaddles> and a lot of canterlot types and upper class ponies are pretty sniffy as well in the main equestria.

06:12 <Twilight`Sparkle> Sure.

06:12 <Midnight_Lilly> Why not Mars? Are you magical expert? Can you cast spells and so know what it can and can not do?

06:12 <Twilight`Sparkle> The question here is...

06:12 <Twilight`Sparkle> what is the point?

06:12 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, that's now my headcanon

06:12 <CrassyPaddles> the moon provides sunlight b/c tia is locked there

06:12 <CrassyPaddles> that's an awesome headcanon

06:12 * Thelema5 practices walking on his hindquarters

06:12 <CrassyPaddles> thanks for that.

06:12 <MarsToSirius> Basic cantrips can be recited from the mind - teleportation, telekinesis, light, etc. Advanced spells require scrolls in the MLP universe.

06:12 <Twilight`Sparkle> Fight between Luna and Celestia went down like this:

06:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> Luna: I RULE NOW, NIGHT FOREVER!

06:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> Celestia (tearfully): Sister no!

06:13 <Midnight_Lilly> Also if you can make bats hat feed on apples not eat apples. Surely you can make plants that eat sunlight eat moonlight?

06:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> Luna tries to kill Celestia.

06:13 <MarsToSirius> Moonlight isn't even light at all in the first place, but a reflection of pure light from the sun.

06:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> Celestia busts out Elements.

06:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> Elements banish Luna to moon.

06:13 <CrassyPaddles> MarsToSirius, explain tricolored moon in tia's hair.

06:13 <Midnight_Lilly> Not in Equestria most Likly mars

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06:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> tricolored moon in hair? what now?

06:14 <Twilight`Sparkle> There's a moon in Tia's hair?

06:14 <MarsToSirius> You're completely rewriting the laws of biology for what would probably amount to hundreds of acres of farmland at once. Magic of that extreme would either be completely impossible, incredibly hard, or ... even in that case, completely under the control of a tyrant like Luna.

06:14 <CrassyPaddles> I mean the moon in the colors of Tia's tricolored hair.

06:14 <Twilight`Sparkle> ...there's a moon in Tia's hair?

06:14 <CrassyPaddles> MarsToSirius, are you an expert in EQUESTRIAN biology?

06:14 <Midnight_Lilly> The fact that the moon and the sun orbit the planet changes things up most Likly mars

06:14 <MarsToSirius> Granted, but you have to think of the grand scale of things when you're thinking about magic

06:14 <nightowl> :|

06:15 <CrassyPaddles> MarsToSirius, I understand, I think, where' you're coming from, we expect certain rules when we watch shows, that they conform to our reality in certain ways.

06:15 <MarsToSirius> If you could just say "Well then just make the plants work with moonlight instead of sunlight" then you completely negate any weight to the Lunaverse

06:15 <Midnight_Lilly> I'm following a rule here Mars

06:15 <CrassyPaddles> MarsToSirius, so what?

06:15 <MarsToSirius> "Oh well we can just magic the problem away whenever we want"

06:15 <Midnight_Lilly> To give you must take

06:16 <MarsToSirius> That's open-ended magical laws, and also terrible writing

06:16 <CrassyPaddles> This is my point in the thread. There's no danger to lunaverse.

06:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> In other news!

06:16 <MarsToSirius> Based on an assumption.

06:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> Jack is back.

06:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> WHACHAK!

06:16 <CrassyPaddles> MarsToSirius, why is it so hard to believe?

06:17 <Kalastraer> hi

06:17 <Midnight_Lilly> Like the vampire bats bats the need to feed on apples was swapped. And again with the paraprites. Complete opposite energy source

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06:17 <Midnight_Lilly> So it can be done.

06:17 <CrassyPaddles> and again with the magic of friendship stopping an ice age caused by MAGICAL windigos?

06:17 <CrassyPaddles> Or ponies manipulating weather to their hearts content?

06:17 <MarsToSirius> We're talking about the sun and moon here, though, cosmic forces that we've been told required the efforts of all the unicorns in pre-Equestria times, or the efforts of Celestia and/or Luna to accomplish

06:18 <CrassyPaddles> sure.

06:18 <CrassyPaddles> So get NMM to do something fancy with the moon to allow it to radiate nourishing light to plants.

06:18 <MarsToSirius> Also, if the ponies don't need sunlight to live, if plants don't need sunlight to live, then there is absolutely no reason the pilot can even exist because Luna is just very arrogantly turning off a light switch. o no

06:18 <CrassyPaddles> I suppose so.

06:18 <nightowl> lol:)

06:19 <CrassyPaddles> Which I'm fine with.

06:19 <MarsToSirius> THAT is more reasonable, but that puts it fully under Nightmare Moon's control. And she's not going to be SO kind as to just... leave things as they were, if just a bit less brighter.

06:19 <CrassyPaddles> The ponies want their princess, not some weirdo from the moon.

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06:19 <Midnight_Lilly> That's just it. Mars I can understand ponys can't cast that spell. I'm sure nightmare moon or Luna could do it with ease

06:19 <Midnight_Lilly> Especially if they don't have to move the moon anymore

06:20 <MarsToSirius> "Moonlight instead of sunlight", I dunno. CHANNELING what power that has now been brought INTO the moon - i.e. Celestia - or drawing the sun's energy even if it's not visible in the sky? That can work, but again would probably reuqire power that only NMM can possess.

06:20 <Midnight_Lilly> Luna is pretty powerful

06:20 <MarsToSirius> Helps to think a bit more three-dimensionally.

06:20 <Midnight_Lilly> Not the pure power celestia or nightmare moon had but more subtle

06:21 <CrassyPaddles> sure...I realize that my interpretation that Equestria isn't starving requires that Luna do some magics to the moonlight, and not that normal ponies are somehow powering along in the absence of nourishing light.

06:21 <CrassyPaddles> but I see nothing inconsistent or even very implausible about such.

06:21 <Muffin_Spectacles> And many are just wondering if Dashie has gone full on lesbo with her butch haircut and raspy voice. :P

06:21 <Twilight`Sparkle> These people are silly.

06:21 <Midnight_Lilly> Lol

06:22 <Twilight`Sparkle> She's always had the raspy voice.

06:22 <CrassyPaddles> and the consequences I fully standby. There's nothing too terrible that would happen to your average joe in Equestria had NMM took over.

06:22 <Muffin_Spectacles> ...and for that matter, why were there specks of green in her hair? Was her rainbow do going moldy?

06:22 <Twilight`Sparkle> The haircut is just military fashion.

06:22 <MarsToSirius> I'm just saying there's probably nota  solution as super-simple as "Welp, I'ma just rewrite the rules so now that MOONLIGHT works instead! Bing!"

06:22 <Midnight_Lilly> Always Muffin_Spectacles

06:22 <CrassyPaddles> Muffin_Spectacles, green in her hair?

06:22 <Twilight`Sparkle> Wasn't there always green in her hair?

06:22 <Twilight`Sparkle> roygbv, guys.

06:22 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: Or little specks, when I saw the ep earlier today. It could have been colored dandruff.

06:22 <CrassyPaddles> https://youtu.be/2EbxYC1Sl6Y?t=8m40s

06:22 <Midnight_Lilly> She grew bat wings guy

06:22 <MarsToSirius> Or it could've been messy.

06:22 <Midnight_Lilly> Guys*

06:23 <Midnight_Lilly> That's clearly what should have been seen not green in her hair!

06:23 <nightowl> how long will the hiatus be?:'(:(

06:23 <Muffin_Spectacles> nightowl: FOR-Eh-VUH!

06:23 <nightowl> :'(:'(

06:24 <Midnight_Lilly> Tell me I'm not the only one that noticed the batwing's?

06:24 <Twilight`Sparkle> the hiatus, like the night, shall last ...

06:24 <Twilight`Sparkle> until the next season premiere.

06:24 <MarsToSirius> What, in the Sombraverse?

06:24 <Midnight_Lilly> 12 hours?

06:24 <CrassyPaddles> Midnight_Lilly, she didn't have to grow batwings.

06:24 <Midnight_Lilly> No Mars in the Luna one

06:24 <MarsToSirius> oh, right

06:24 <MarsToSirius> Um... yeah. Everyone saw those.

06:25 <Midnight_Lilly> In the final

06:25 <CrassyPaddles> the "batwings" could just be armor OVER her normal wings

06:25 <Midnight_Lilly> I don't buy it....

06:25 <Midnight_Lilly> Bat ponies are real!!!

06:25 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: ...naw, that's too tame for people that want super-coolness.

06:25 <CrassyPaddles> they are, but RD isn't one

06:25 <MarsToSirius> Larson has said they're a distinct race.

06:25 <CrassyPaddles> look very closely at RD's ears. Then look at the other guards.

06:25 <CrassyPaddles> The others have that distinctive bat pony ear fluff. RD doesn't

06:26 <Midnight_Lilly> I know.

06:26 <Midnight_Lilly> Go Larson!

06:26 <GoS> oh yeah she joined da shadows bolts in season 1. Or were those shadow bolts fake?

06:26 <CrassyPaddles> also, if you don't buy that it's armor over her wings.

06:26 <Twilight`Sparkle> the Shadow Bolts were just Nightmare Moon.

06:26 <GoS> ah ok

06:26 <CrassyPaddles> although I think it is armor over there wings.

06:27 <CrassyPaddles> Because the color of the wings matches the color of the armor and DOES NOT match the color of their furs.

06:27 <GoS> Prosthetic wings sounds cooler though

06:27 <CrassyPaddles> but if you don't buy that it's armored wings, it could be a disguise.

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06:27 <Muffin_Spectacles> Plus, in the Sombraverse, Dash got to fly with the Wonderbolts, if you think of it. She was in formation with Spitfire during the aerial portion of the battle.

06:27 <CrassyPaddles> yep

06:28 <CrassyPaddles> <MarsToSirius> Or it could've been messy.

06:28 <CrassyPaddles> what could have been messy?

06:28 <Twilight`Sparkle> her hair.

06:28 <CrassyPaddles> ah

06:29 <Muffin_Spectacles> So, can we just assume the Crystal Empire are 'the sheep' of the world? They seem to largely be group-thnk.

06:29 <CrassyPaddles> they had brainwashing spells cast on them

06:30 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: They remnded me a bit of the docile crowds in 'Atlantis: The Lost Empire,' who largely seemed to stand around, even when stuff oculd endanger them.

06:30 <Twilight`Sparkle> Muffin_Spectacles: but there are actual sheep.

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06:30 <Muffin_Spectacles> Twilight`Sparkle: Yeah, and AJ ain't havin' none of day lip they give.

06:30 <Muffin_Spectacles> "You could have just asssked." *KASLAM*

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06:31 <CrassyPaddles> what?

06:31 <CrassyPaddles> where's that quote from?

06:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> I think it was from one of the rodeo episodes.

06:31 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: Sisterhooves social, when they round up the sheep.

06:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> Ooooor that.

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06:31 <CrassyPaddles> the atlanteans from the disney movie were sheep? actual sheep?

06:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> No.

06:32 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: No, but they were about as docile as the Crystal ponies. At one point, their Princess is being taken away, and they all just stand there, watcing, doing nothing.

06:32 <CrassyPaddles> when?

06:32 <CrassyPaddles> comics?

06:32 <Muffin_Spectacles> I guess years of time doing nothing just makes one bored.

06:32 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: The Disney film from 2001, 'Atlantis: The Lost Empire.'

06:32 <CrassyPaddles> ah yes.

06:33 <CrassyPaddles> but the crystal ponies? Brainwashing spell

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06:33 <CrassyPaddles> iirc, in the crystl empire episode, one even says that they're memories been tampered.

06:33 <CrassyPaddles> *their

06:33 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yeah, by Sombra.

06:33 <CrassyPaddles> I'm not wording make very good

06:33 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: "It's Kurns!"

06:34 <CrassyPaddles> so yes, Muffin_Spectacles they are docile, and I claim it's b/c of brainwashing spell

06:34 <CrassyPaddles> don't think it's the crystal ponies' fault

06:34 <Muffin_Spectacles> "Hello Mr...Kurns? I bad need...mo-ney now. Me sick." "Ooo, he cards reads good!"

06:34 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: I guess so, just like Twist didn't mean to be the worst filly in the whole of the fandom.

06:35 <MarsToSirius> wow

06:35 <MarsToSirius> w  o  w

06:35 <CrassyPaddles> what

06:35 <MarsToSirius> these shots that're being fired right now

06:35 <Twilight`Sparkle> Probably the Twist thing.

06:35 <CrassyPaddles> why does everyone hate twist?

06:35 <MarsToSirius> I don't know! \D:/

06:35 <Muffin_Spectacles> But, I thought the general consensus that Twist was the anti-Celestia...I have no idea why, but I hear it a lot.

06:36 <CrassyPaddles> wtf lol

06:36 <Muffin_Spectacles> It reminds me of how every other person hates Cho Chang in the Harry Potter series.

06:36 <MarsToSirius> The same people that want Prince Blueblood to suffer awful consequences for being kind of a dick in one whole episode?

06:36 <CrassyPaddles> my roommies says it's b/c Twist left AB after getting her CM?

06:37 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: Yeah, I get the 'Judas' angle from quite a few people.

06:37 <MarsToSirius> THey were planning her cuteceanera!

06:37 <MarsToSirius> holy cannoli

06:37 <Muffin_Spectacles> I guess cutie marks are like 'pieces of silver.' The betrayal stings deeply.

06:37 <Twilight`Sparkle> The short answer is:

06:37 <Twilight`Sparkle> people are batty.

06:37 <CrassyPaddles> hey, if AB didn't bond with twist, tht's on her.

06:37 <MarsToSirius> (also I swear in Lost Mark they say "quinceanera" instead)

06:38 <Twilight`Sparkle> EVERYPONY IN THIS TOWN IS CRAZ

06:38 <Twilight`Sparkle> y.

06:38 <MarsToSirius> so, uh, what sort of nefarious thing in my system32 is taking up 1.3gig of memory right now

06:38 <Muffin_Spectacles> Well, they do focus on flanks a lot.

06:38 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, do you still think that everyone in the Lunaverse isn't happy b/c we didn't see any smiles on anyone's faces there besides NMM?

06:39 <MarsToSirius> Meanwhile, back to an argument we finished

06:39 <Midnight_Lilly> Luna had happy ponies!

06:39 <Midnight_Lilly> It's the bat ponies! Obviously

06:39 <Twilight`Sparkle> CrassyPaddles: I think that calling it the Lunaverse is a misnomer.

06:39 <Twilight`Sparkle> Call it the Nightmareverse.

06:39 <CrassyPaddles> I don't think we did, we got derailed by yours

06:39 <MarsToSirius> Lunaverse sounds cooler though.

06:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> But the Lunaverse, to me, is the verse where Luna and Celestia have swapped roles.

06:40 <MarsToSirius> they

06:40 <MarsToSirius> kinda have

06:40 <MarsToSirius> actually

06:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> As opposed to where Nightmare Moon won.

06:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> So, to me, Lunaverse is where you had Nightmare Sol, or whatever you want to call it, and Luna banished Celestia.

06:41 <CrassyPaddles> NMM's TL, howabout that?

06:41 <Twilight`Sparkle> what?

06:41 <CrassyPaddles> NMM's TimeLine.

06:41 <Twilight`Sparkle> who?

06:41 <CrassyPaddles> b/c I'm lazy and like abbrevations.

06:42 <Twilight`Sparkle> what is abbrevation.

06:42 <Cepheid> NightMare Moon

06:42 <CrassyPaddles> the timeline where Nightmare Moon took over, let's call it NMM's TL

06:42 <Twilight`Sparkle> Hmmm...

06:42 <Muffin_Spectacles> Ug, We had a manager who always swore by abbreviations...got tiresome quickly.

06:42 <Twilight`Sparkle> I have consider your proposal, and rejected it.

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06:42 <Twilight`Sparkle> I prefer Nightmareverse.

06:42 <CrassyPaddles> NMV then?

06:42 <Twilight`Sparkle> Mmm...

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06:42 <Twilight`Sparkle> I feel stubborn.

06:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> So, no.

06:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> :D

06:43 <CrassyPaddles> So in NMV, you're saying everyone's sad or not happy b/c we didn't see any smiles.

06:43 <Muffin_Spectacles> How about Mooniverse?

06:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> No.

06:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> I'm saying that nobody looks happy.

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06:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> And that's all.

06:43 <Muffin_Spectacles> I figured it out: Rarity isn't happy with the tapestries...therefore, everyone is miserable.

06:43 <Twilight`Sparkle> (aside from Moonie herself, but that's more an evil gloating thing)

06:44 <Twilight`Sparkle> (plus she's definitely not happy at the end when Twilight blindsides her with Teleport At-Will)

06:44 <Twilight`Sparkle> ("TWILIGHT, YOUR BUILD IS OP!")

06:44 <CrassyPaddles> pretty much

06:44 <Twilight`Sparkle> ("Hey, you approved it, mister DM!")

06:44 <CrassyPaddles> but for the average joe in Nightmareverse, how do they fare?

06:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> No clue.

06:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> Insufficient data provided to answer question.

06:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> You can speculate, of course.

06:45 <CrassyPaddles> so the fact that no one looks happy means nothing to you?

06:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> My speculation would be that, on average, people aren't that happy.

06:45 <Muffin_Spectacles> Only one thing to do kidnap Haber and demand answers!

06:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> If only because sunlight is good for ponies.

06:46 <CrassyPaddles> I see.

06:46 <Twilight`Sparkle> But that's speculation.

06:46 <CrassyPaddles> I thought you were going from "no happy ponies in the scene" to "no happy ponies in Equestria"

06:46 <Twilight`Sparkle> No.

06:46 <CrassyPaddles> well, nvm then.

06:46 <Muffin_Spectacles> "That makes me a saaaaadddddd poneeeee."

06:46 <Twilight`Sparkle> You are a silly pony.

06:47 <CrassyPaddles> I read implications that aren't there, apparently

06:47 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yes.

06:47 <Twilight`Sparkle> You do.

06:47 <CrassyPaddles> that's why it's good to double check

06:47 <Twilight`Sparkle> I am going to try to sleep now.

06:47 <CrassyPaddles> one last cute thing I noticed in the episode

06:47 <Twilight`Sparkle> I had a three hour or so unplanned nap earlier.

06:48 <CrassyPaddles> https://youtu.be/2EbxYC1Sl6Y?t=7m12s

06:48 <MarsToSirius> Just tell us, m8

06:48 <Twilight`Sparkle> We'll see if body agrees that sleeping again is a good idea.

06:48 <CrassyPaddles> headcanon: NMM has a observatory so close to her castle JUST to use it to see Tia imprisoned on the moon.

06:49 <Twilight`Sparkle> That's petty of her.

06:49 <CrassyPaddles> of course. NMM is a petty villain

06:50 <CrassyPaddles> just seeing Tia looking miserable on the moon probably satisfies some incredible need for revenge.

06:50 <Muffin_Spectacles> Or she goes off on 15 minute laughing binges, like how she seemed to laugh for over a minute in front of Spike and Twilight.

06:50 <CrassyPaddles> upon seeing trapped Tia?

06:50 <CrassyPaddles> sure. Both could work.

06:50 <Twilight`Sparkle> Nah.

06:51 <Twilight`Sparkle> Just every so often.

06:51 <Twilight`Sparkle> For no discernible reason, sometimes.

06:51 <Twilight`Sparkle> Of course, nobody /else/ ever laughs. They don't get the joke.

06:51 <Twilight`Sparkle> Also, the last time someone did get the joke, they ended up like those timber wolves.

06:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> It was not a good ... er...

06:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> period of time between bouts of slumber.

06:52 <CrassyPaddles> I don't get the joke. Why would NMM be laughing?

06:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> Only she knows, friend.

06:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> And some people think even /she/ doesn't know.

06:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> We learned to stop questioning it.

06:52 <Muffin_Spectacles> "You're insane." "nonono. Say what I want to hear, come on." "Celestia wil-" "WRRROOONNNGGG!!!!""

06:54 <CrassyPaddles> Muffin_Spectacles, what?

06:54 <Muffin_Spectacles> Geez, noone is getting my references. I really am old.

06:54 <MarsToSirius> I got it!

06:54 <Muffin_Spectacles> It's like when someone mentioned the group Wilson phillips at work, and someone goes, "Who is Wilson Philips? I've never heard of him before."

06:55 <Twilight`Sparkle> Hmmm. I am probably old enough to get those references, I just haven't seen the things being referenced.

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06:57 <MarsToSirius> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVUOGUmxJI

06:57 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Lex Luthor - WRONG!

06:58 <Muffin_Spectacles> I still wish my crazy time-canon was true: my original thinking was that Starlight was Cadance and Shininig's daughter, who time-jumped back into the past after getting upset with future Twilight's teachings.

06:58 <Muffin_Spectacles> Just imagine how crazy that would have been: "Geez, even in the past you're a buzzkill...Aunt Twilight." "...!!?"

06:58 <Midnight_Lilly> Uhhhh

06:59 <MarsToSirius> Skyla... Skylight... the sky has stars... star...light...

06:59 <Twilight`Sparkle> "Fanfic plotlines that are rather silly for $200, please."

06:59 <MarsToSirius> ILLOOMEENAUGHTY

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07:00 <Muffin_Spectacles> If people can turn Pinkie Pie into a pony-butcher, I can imagine things like Starlight being a future Niece."

07:00 <MarsToSirius> I can also imagine Rarity having a discussion about politics with Jay Leno, doesn't mean it works. :p

07:00 <Muffin_Spectacles> "Darling, that chin! We have to find something to make it...less, prominent."

07:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yeah, but, uh...

07:02 <Muffin_Spectacles> Haber it feels, has a bit of a problem juggling big stories. It feels like he gets a few things okay, but as a collective whole, it starts to fall apart.

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07:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> I never thought the Serial Killer Pinkie thing was good.

07:02 <Twilight`Sparkle> It's definitely a thing that exists.

07:03 <MarsToSirius> Actually, I felt this was a well-put together story.

07:03 <Twilight`Sparkle> But, then, that My Immortal fic exists, too.

07:03 <CrassyPaddles> that's a strange headcanon that explains nothing, Muffin_Spectacles

07:03 <Twilight`Sparkle> MarsToSirius: this, meaning ... what?

07:03 <Twilight`Sparkle> the finale?

07:03 <MarsToSirius> yeah, in response to Muffin.

07:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> Okay then!

07:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yes, I agree.

07:04 <CrassyPaddles> best 2 parter

07:04 <CrassyPaddles> although

07:04 <Muffin_Spectacles> I feel that in the case of say, Friendship Games, the ending actually seemed to be the only thing I could get behind (with Sunset going against Twilight), and the first 2/3 was rather messy. But in the case of Remark, the first 2/3 were good, but then it just fumbled in the end.

07:05 <CrassyPaddles> was there any tension in the scene where SG was about to tear the spell?

07:05 * Muffin_Spectacles still feels that the Season 2 opener is his favorite 2-parter.

07:05 <Muffin_Spectacles> CrassyPaddles: I didn't feel any.

07:05 <MarsToSirius> There was plenty, because it meant that any change they made to the past was irreversible and any of those nightmare scenarios could've played out.

07:05 <CrassyPaddles> like, so what if she rips it? SG can still time travel

07:06 <CrassyPaddles> and then Twi could just convince SG later to change her mind

07:06 <MarsToSirius> No, she couldn't.

07:06 <CrassyPaddles> and bring them back to the present.

07:06 <MarsToSirius> The reason Starlight could time-travel was because of Starswirl's spell, written on the scroll. It's not a spell they could commit to memory and cast as a cantrip of sorts.

07:07 <MarsToSirius> Ripping it ends the loop entirely, and it gives Starlight the complete victory because then Twilight has no method of fixing the screw-up that Starlight causes by somehow altering Dash's Rainboom.

07:09 <CrassyPaddles> https://youtu.be/IsvAq_jzRU0

07:09 <CrassyPaddles> this I think refutes you

07:09 <MarsToSirius> What would better refute me is TYPING OUT YOUR STATEMENTS

07:09 <CrassyPaddles> whoops

07:09 <MarsToSirius> I am not in a position to be watching Youtube videos right now because of the state of my computer

07:09 <CrassyPaddles> supposed to have time stamp

07:09 <Twilight`Sparkle> ...this is the changeling video.

07:10 <CrassyPaddles> okay, first time in the finale that Twi and Star confront each other

07:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> Scroll is intact.

07:10 <CrassyPaddles> Star crumples up the spell, tosses it, then says "won't be needing that anymore"

07:10 <Muffin_Spectacles> Well, I am off. NEed sleep, to actually go into work competently after the partying tonight.

07:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> Sure, and the scroll still existing allows Twilight to follow her.

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07:10 <MarsToSirius> Yeah, she crumples it. Crumpling doesn't seperate it into pieces.

07:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> Scroll is intact. Where is refutation?

07:12 <MarsToSirius> Imagine if magic in FIM was runes instead of words. You draw a complicated rune on a piece of paper, but some idiot steps on it, putting folds and creases into the paper. The shape you make, however, is still going to be whole, and leylines followed properly, etc. It just won't look pretty in your spellbook.

07:12 <MarsToSirius> Ripping that shape in half, however...

07:12 <CrassyPaddles> no other spell works this way that we've seen

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07:13 <CrassyPaddles> all magic we've seen is removed from the spell books you learn the spells from

07:13 <MarsToSirius> The spell that sent Twilight back a few days in It's About Time?

07:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> There is one other spell that was written down.

07:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> Magical Mystery Cure.

07:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> ...of course that spell is very very mysterious.

07:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> Incidentally, that spell that was in It's About Time is apparently the same spell that Starlight modified for the finale.

07:14 <CrassyPaddles> so like if all papers with the levitation spell on them were destroyed, unicorns can't levitate?

07:14 <Twilight`Sparkle> No.

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07:14 <Twilight`Sparkle> Once again you seeing implications that aren't being made.

07:14 <MarsToSirius> No, because there are most likely different schools and branches of magic.

07:14 <Twilight`Sparkle> What is being stated here is simply this:

07:14 <CleverDerpy> look, I found a ham~

07:14 <CleverDerpy> https://derpibooru.org/1035872

07:14 <Twilight`Sparkle> If that scroll right there is destroyed, the time travel loop that Starlight and Twilight are in ends.

07:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> And the changes become permanent.

07:15 <CrassyPaddles> what about It's about Time leads to the conclusion that the actual physical paper is required to perform the spell, and not simply knowledge of it?

07:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> While the scroll still exists, the spell is still in progress.

07:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> Not much.

07:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> But that's not the point.

07:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> The finale implies it.

07:15 <MarsToSirius> Clearly the two sorceresses battling it out in Cloudsdale know a little bit more about the laws of magic than we do.

07:16 <MarsToSirius> What incantations can and can't be recited from pure memory.

07:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> The simple fact that Starlight was about to destroy the scroll gives weight to the destruction of the scroll having an effect.

07:16 <MarsToSirius> Whether it's possible for a scribe to control the catalyst of a spell, if he or she must require the use of said scroll

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07:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> This is very basic reasoning.

07:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> I don't understand what is hard about it.

07:16 <CleverDerpy> good morning~

07:17 <CrassyPaddles> sure, but it's not supported by anything in the episode prior to that event.

07:17 * MarsToSirius boops CleverDerpy with a plastic ham shank.

07:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> So?

07:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> Do you think Starlight's actions have reasons behind them?

07:17 <CrassyPaddles> just seems pulled out of the hat, and thus leaving you going, "what?"

07:17 * CleverDerpy giggles

07:17 <CleverDerpy> thank you~

07:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> Also, there is support.

07:17 <MarsToSirius> It does if you're convinced you know everything about how magic works in the show.

07:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> Every single time that Twilight takes herself back in time

07:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> EVERY. SINGLE TIME.

07:18 <MarsToSirius> "Wait, you mean THIS extraordinary spell that Starlight rewrote is somehow DIFFERENT? whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"

07:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> She uses the scroll.

07:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> She never casts that magic without it.

07:18 <CleverDerpy> you know, the whole magic debate is moot because of this...

07:18 <MarsToSirius> ^

07:18 <MarsToSirius> ^

07:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> Would this not be evidence that the scroll is necessary to the casting of the spell?

07:18 <CleverDerpy> it's magic, the whole definition is pretty much cannot be defined

07:18 <MarsToSirius> Wrooooooooooong.

07:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> Notably, Starlight needed the scroll to make it happen, too.

07:19 <MarsToSirius> Absolutely wrong.

07:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> Would /this/ not be evidence that the scroll is important?

07:19 <CleverDerpy> were you saying I was wrong?

07:19 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, okay, I've rewatched the scenes where Twi goes back in time

07:19 <CleverDerpy> or they were

07:19 <MarsToSirius> You cannot have magic without laws and limitations, or else you cannot hope to hold a magical universe with any ounce of meaning to it.

07:19 <CrassyPaddles> every time she does so, she uses the scroll

07:19 <CrassyPaddles> blasts it first with magic

07:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> Indeed.

07:20 <CleverDerpy> maybe the scroll is like a key, and the magic is the ignition, the time portal is a car, and the timestream isa  road

07:20 <Twilight`Sparkle> I still don't see what's so hard about this

07:20 <CleverDerpy> and the map is home

07:21 <Twilight`Sparkle> Is it why Starlight crumpled up the scroll and tossed to the side? PErhaps she did that because she wanted Twilight to follow! After all, she definitely was /expecting/ Twilight to show up.

07:21 <Bubble-Berry> Hello?

07:21 <Twilight`Sparkle> Hello.

07:21 <MarsToSirius> Hellew.

07:22 <MarsToSirius> And she specifically wrote in a connection whereby everytime Twilight went back to try to undo Starlight's sabotage, Starlight would be put in a rewinded state back to the origin point

07:22 <Twilight`Sparkle> So that she could undo the undoing.

07:23 <Twilight`Sparkle> (and also torture Twilight it seems)

07:24 <CrassyPaddles> ugh, the show isn't consistent about it though

07:24 <Twilight`Sparkle> about what?

07:24 <CrassyPaddles> there are instances where twilight doesn't shoot the scroll with magic, but shoots the table with magic

07:24 <Twilight`Sparkle> Eh.

07:25 <Twilight`Sparkle> Scroll, map, and magic portal thingy are all involved still.

07:25 <CrassyPaddles> then there's the fact that nothing seems to cause the portal that sucks twilight BACK into the present

07:25 <Cepheid> ... Right, Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold.  Apparently someone on the dev team had been reading Cthulu Mythos stories when they designed one of the DLC.

07:25 * Twilight`Sparkle shrugs.

07:25 <Twilight`Sparkle> Can't help you there.

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07:25 <Twilight`Sparkle> On /that/, draw your own conclusions.

07:26 <MarsToSirius> What, when everything's finally settled and Starlight is redeemed?

07:26 <Twilight`Sparkle> And every time the portal that takes her to a bad present shows up.

07:26 <CrassyPaddles> ^

07:27 <Twilight`Sparkle> I mean, it is clearly tied, somehow, to the Sonic rainboom and it's existence or lack of existence.

07:27 <MarsToSirius> But the last time they use it, after she's been redeemed, it's the only time in the past where Dash does perform her Rainboom

07:27 <CrassyPaddles> The reason I say there's little tension in the paper ripping scene is because mostly of this:

07:27 <MarsToSirius> So the present they come to is the one where all "correct" events have followed

07:27 <CrassyPaddles> MarsToSirius, they don't even use it then, a portal just opens up

07:27 <Twilight`Sparkle> MM... I'll have to disagree with you a priori.

07:27 <Twilight`Sparkle> Because I felt tension.

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07:27 <CrassyPaddles> https://youtu.be/IsvAq_jzRU0?t=36m42s

07:27 <MarsToSirius> Stop

07:27 <MarsToSirius> using

07:27 <Twilight`Sparkle> Stop.

07:27 <MarsToSirius> timecodes

07:28 <Twilight`Sparkle> Using. Videos.

07:28 <CrassyPaddles> well, it's the scene showing SG using the time travelling spell WITHOUT the paper OR table.

07:28 <CrassyPaddles> she just straight up casts a time travelling spell

07:28 <Twilight`Sparkle> Nah, she's clearly triggering the exact same spell.

07:28 <MarsToSirius> From the Apocalypseverse?

07:28 <Twilight`Sparkle> Just a shortcut version.

07:29 <Twilight`Sparkle> That portal looks just like all the other ones.

07:29 <CrassyPaddles> She can cast the portal without the table or spell then.

07:29 <MarsToSirius> Maybe she can.

07:29 <Twilight`Sparkle> It makes far more sense that she has a shortcut trigger on hand than that she's casting a separate time travel spell.

07:29 <MarsToSirius> But Twilight can't.

07:29 <CrassyPaddles> All other times the spell is cast, the paper or the table is involved, except for this one time.

07:29 <Twilight`Sparkle> Regardless, the destruction of the scroll locks Twilight out from being able to fix things.

07:29 <MarsToSirius> This is a totally new spell for Twilight, and it'd be hopeless to think she could memorize what's probably incredibly complex incantations.

07:30 <Twilight`Sparkle> So, yeah. Tension.

07:30 <MarsToSirius> What she might be doing with her blasting magic at the table/scroll is some sort of ... I dunno, "compiler" spell that bypasses the necessity of reciting words in your head.

07:30 <Twilight`Sparkle> Or at least I felt it.

07:30 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, yes, until she convinces starlight to take them back

07:30 <MarsToSirius> Starlight, however, having INVENTED the spell and perhaps having had plenty of time to hone it and memorize it, would not need it.

07:30 <CrassyPaddles> which was what she was trying to do anyways.

07:30 <MarsToSirius> Convinces her how?

07:31 <CrassyPaddles> the way she did in the show, but maybe after the spell paper is ripped?

07:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> mmm, TWilight convinces Starlight to stand down.

07:31 <MarsToSirius> DO you honestly think

07:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> But, bear in mind...

07:31 <MarsToSirius> After Starlight successfully gets her revenge

07:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> Twilight would probably have been kicked to the present.

07:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> That's what happened each other time.

07:31 <CrassyPaddles> hmmm

07:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> And now there would be no rewind function.

07:31 <MarsToSirius> That Twilight would not only be unsullied by Starlight afterwards, but would have ANY opportunity to be able to contact Starlight again?

07:32 <MarsToSirius> "HAHA! I've got my revenge!.................... so uh bye I guess" and then just kinda walks away awkwardly

07:32 <Twilight`Sparkle> Anyway.

07:32 <CrassyPaddles> Twilight`Sparkle, yeah you're right

07:32 <Twilight`Sparkle> This is getting tedious. I need sleep.

07:32 <Twilight`Sparkle> Good night.

07:33 <CrassyPaddles> the back to the present portal would have opened up, twilight gets sucked...

07:33 <MarsToSirius> And then game over

07:33 <CrassyPaddles> then she has no spell to go back to SG.

07:33 <MarsToSirius> Yep!

07:33 <MarsToSirius> gg no re

07:33 <CrassyPaddles> maybe she could have stalled SG until the portal opened?

07:34 <MarsToSirius> pfffft

07:34 <Twilight`Sparkle> does it matter?

07:34 <MarsToSirius> It really doesn't

07:34 <CrassyPaddles> All the interference happens BEFORE the portal opens. The thing seems to be on a timer.

07:34 <Twilight`Sparkle> I know /you/ know that.

07:34 <MarsToSirius> The deed is done as soon as Dash fails to perform her Rainboom in time.

07:34 <Twilight`Sparkle> But crassy's who I'm asking.

07:34 <Twilight`Sparkle> Does it matter, CrassyPaddles?

07:34 <CrassyPaddles> is it? Maybe it's some sort of tree sentience thing?

07:35 <CrassyPaddles> Twi even says as much. THat's the reason the table teleports with them.

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07:35 <Twilight`Sparkle> Eeyup. Goodnight.

07:35 <CrassyPaddles> MarsToSirius, I'm saying what if Twi stalls SG enough for Dash to do the rainboom, and then the portal opens to suck her back to the present?

07:35 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

07:35 *** Twilight`Sparkle is now known as Princess_Dreamer

07:35 <Cocobed> *these fifty videos that aren't commercially available for purchase by any normal means are blocked in your country... we still listed them in your search results anyway tho *squee*   T .T grrr

07:36 <MarsToSirius> Great idea.

07:36 <MarsToSirius> Except that's exactly what she did.

07:36 <MarsToSirius> Like four times.

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07:36 <MarsToSirius> Or however many it was.

07:36 <CrassyPaddles> she only succeed on the last time, and then got SG to go back with her.

07:36 <CrassyPaddles> I'm saying what if she stalls SG, but doesn't reform her, and then only Twi and Spike get sucked back to the present.

07:37 <MarsToSirius> The biggest issue with any solution regarding "stalling Starlight" is that Twilight has to come up with a solution that COMPLETELY negates ANY interference by Starlight of Dash.

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07:38 <bms2993> Hello

07:38 <MarsToSirius> Twilight is a very smart pony but undoubtedly doesn't know enough to be able to do this. She could, somewhat feasibly, come up with solutions for a very long time ("We could be doing this for eternity!") but the Ultimate Solution of Ultimate Destiny is clearly beyond her immediate grasp.

07:38 * MarsToSirius waves at bms2993.

07:38 <bms2993> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCY0UFf7qG0 I just animated Princess Luna doing Shila's "Just do it!" using nothing but a whiteboard a pack of markers and a $20 webcam I all got from Walmart XD

07:38 <CrassyPaddles> do you think it's a time thing when that portal appears, or like some sort of fail/win condition that causes it to appear

07:39 <MarsToSirius> The fact that she's allowed to interact with the new paths in time suggests it's a time thing.

07:39 <MarsToSirius> "fail/win" would just be like "Here, let me just show you what nonsense will happen if you fail this time... try again"

07:39 <CrassyPaddles> I don't think so, I think it's a fail win thing.

07:40 <CrassyPaddles> You can't see timestamps, otherwise this would be easy.

07:40 <ConfusionRift> This is why time travel in... anything is not a good idea.

07:40 <MarsToSirius> There's a whole two points in time.

07:40 <CrassyPaddles> But there's a loop where twi's in the past for all of 5 seconds.

07:40 <MarsToSirius> Dash-time, and present-time.

07:40 <CrassyPaddles> compared to minutes in other instances spent in dash time

07:40 <Princess_Dreamer> Narrative effect speeds up time.

07:41 <MarsToSirius> pretty much

07:41 <Princess_Dreamer> AKA don't forget it's a TV show.

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07:41 <Princess_Dreamer> also, go to bed.

07:41 <Princess_Dreamer> it's 2:41 am, why are we awake.

07:41 <CrassyPaddles> I can account for the narrative. Twi gets sent back before RD even takes off

07:41 <ConfusionRift> 12:41am on my end. Pffffttttt.

07:41 <Princess_Dreamer> You're in mountain time, you don't count.

07:41 <MarsToSirius> I need to restart my computer.

07:41 <Princess_Dreamer> Also, you're nocturnal.

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07:42 * ConfusionRift raspberries towards Princess_Dreamer intensify.

07:42 <CrassyPaddles> She pops into dash time, tries to blast SG, SG dodges and the spell freezes RD, then while SG gives her sarcastic slow clap, the portal appears.

07:42 * Princess_Dreamer raspberries back.

07:42 <CrassyPaddles> that's not just narrative effect speeding up the time.

07:42 <ConfusionRift> Time travel. All is valid, and invalid.

07:42 <Princess_Dreamer> CrassyPaddles: Mars is not here at the moment.

07:44 <CrassyPaddles> and we have good reason to believe its failure states as well from the other map episodes. Their butts glow when the succeed, and don't when they haven't.

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07:44 <CrassyPaddles> *believe it is failure states

07:45 <Princess_Dreamer> Pickles and ice cream.

07:45 <ConfusionRift> Okay? What seems to be causing the headaches?

07:45 <Princess_Dreamer> ConfusionRift: for reference, the discussion of everything regarding everything to do with the finale has been going since, uh ...

07:45 <Princess_Dreamer> 10:30 pm or so.

07:45 <Princess_Dreamer> So four hours?

07:45 <CrassyPaddles> we've been at it for just that long?

07:46 <Princess_Dreamer> Something like that.

07:46 <ConfusionRift> No. It's been going since it ended. People keep asking, but the thing is it's not a consistent subject.

07:46 <Princess_Dreamer> ConfusionRift: I meant this particular discussion.

07:46 <Princess_Dreamer> Not all of them.

07:46 <Princess_Dreamer> Silly pony.

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07:47 <CrassyPaddles> okay, here's a scene where there's really no tension. WHen they pop into the Chrysalis timeline and FS and PP threaten them with spears.

07:47 <ConfusionRift> Thing is, again, we're talking about a show that is not consistent, using a concept that is absolutely not consistent at all.

07:47 <CrassyPaddles> Uhh, Twi. You have the time travel spell. Just use it again.

07:47 <Princess_Dreamer> ...why do we care?

07:47 <CrassyPaddles> she's firstly and alicorn, and secondly, she has the spell.

07:48 <Princess_Dreamer> why do we care?

07:48 <CrassyPaddles> we care b/c there's no tension! She has no reason to be so scared.

07:48 <Princess_Dreamer> I don't care.

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07:48 <ConfusionRift> I dunno, really. Twilight has made some rather dumb decisions before.

07:48 <MarsToSirius> "She's firstly an alicorn" which means?

07:48 <Princess_Dreamer> The scene was fine.

07:48 <CrassyPaddles> just shield the spears away

07:48 <CrassyPaddles> or

07:48 <CrassyPaddles> use the time travel spell to gtfo

07:48 <Princess_Dreamer> The scene was fien.

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07:49 <Princess_Dreamer> Why nitpick.

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07:49 <CrassyPaddles> that scene made everything look so tense, that Twi was screwed w/o Zecora coming in.

07:49 <CrassyPaddles> Compare it to the timberwolves scene, which had tension

07:49 <Princess_Dreamer> ...why. nitpick.

07:49 <CrassyPaddles> b/c we saw that Twi had exhausted her magic supply

07:49 <MarsToSirius> I'll agree that the Crysalis universe was the weakest one but I really don't think that's enuogh of a plothole to go on and on about

07:50 <Princess_Dreamer> no. Not why is the scene wrong. I'm asking, why are you nitpicking it?

07:50 <CrassyPaddles> i dunno. It's fun to analyze the crud out of pony?

07:50 <MarsToSirius> When it can be easily explained away by a number of plausible explanations

07:50 <Princess_Dreamer> This isn't fun now.

07:50 <Princess_Dreamer> This is now tiresome.

07:50 <CrassyPaddles> well it's only a little issue I have with the finale.

07:50 <CrassyPaddles> Overall I think it's great

07:50 <Princess_Dreamer> So why nitpick?

07:51 <Princess_Dreamer> Why not talk about what you liked?

07:51 <CrassyPaddles> it's not all good though, and maybe people'll discover more. or maybe somebody has a view that explains away the flaw?

07:51 <MarsToSirius> To be fair... this has helped me sorta centralize my thoughts on how magic has to work in MLP

07:52 <MarsToSirius> FIM* rather

07:52 <Princess_Dreamer> Oh, sure.

07:52 <MarsToSirius> But when every bullet point requires a half-thesis from the audience it gets to be a little much

07:52 <Princess_Dreamer> But that was all earlier stuff.

07:52 <Princess_Dreamer> This is now just nitpick.

07:52 <ConfusionRift> Aaargh. Twilight has proven that she can't multitask. She got distracted, and couldn't do it. Heck, she forgot she had wing in one of the scenes.

07:52 <CrassyPaddles> ConfusionRift, perhaps

07:52 <Princess_Dreamer> She forgot she had other wing, too.

07:53 <MarsToSirius> It's also not very often Twilight has very pointy sticks aimed in her direction.

07:53 <CrassyPaddles> maybe it's not so unbelievable after all

07:53 <Princess_Dreamer> She also forgot Spike didn't have wing.

07:53 <CrassyPaddles> she did drop the spell in fright, and those spears were awfully close

07:53 <Princess_Dreamer> Not even one.

07:53 <MarsToSirius> She's freaking like... twenty or something. She's not Dumbledore.

07:53 <Princess_Dreamer> The falling scenes were hilarious, honestly.

07:53 <Princess_Dreamer> ALSO when Starlight is monologuing at crystalled Twilight.

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07:53 <Princess_Dreamer> "Ugh!"

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07:53 <Princess_Dreamer> Flip to underside.

07:53 <CrassyPaddles> okay nvm

07:54 <MarsToSirius> Hell, speaking of Dumbledore, ther'es a scene in the last book where Hermione forgets she's a witch at one point and it's Ron that has to remind her that she's kind of like a spellcaster person dudette

07:54 <Princess_Dreamer> On point scene, there.

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07:54 <CrassyPaddles> She's in shock at seeing FS wielding a spear and covered in maybe changeling blood

07:54 <Princess_Dreamer> "ARE YOU A WITCH OR NOT?!"

07:54 <Princess_Dreamer> Anyway.

07:54 <CrassyPaddles> so she's not thinking straight.

07:54 <CrassyPaddles> Nitpick explained away.

07:54 <MarsToSirius> (Great callback to the Whomping Willow scene in Book 5 btw)

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07:54 <Princess_Dreamer> I vote you all talk about the funny/awesome bits.

07:55 <Princess_Dreamer> I am closing IRC.

07:55 <MarsToSirius> (Or no wait Book 7, because Ron had to use a stick to prod the Whomping Willow to get to where Snape and Voldemort were hiding)

07:55 <CrassyPaddles> see? That's why I nitpick. Other people smarter than me can point out my ignorance and correct it.

07:55 <Princess_Dreamer> Goodnight.

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07:55 <Princess_Dreamer> CrassyPaddles: yeah, but bear in mind it gets very. very. very annoying.

07:55 <CrassyPaddles> headcanon, the green paint is changeling blood

07:55 <ConfusionRift> Laters Princess_Dreamer.

07:55 <MarsToSirius> Or just, you know, paint from foliage.

07:55 <Princess_Dreamer> when people start getting annoyed, it's probably time to change subjets.

07:55 <MarsToSirius> As a lot of paint was in older days.

07:55 <Princess_Dreamer> but yes.

07:56 <Princess_Dreamer> closing IRC.

07:56 <Princess_Dreamer> goodnight.

07:56 <MarsToSirius> Crushed up leaves and petals liquefied.

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07:56 <CrassyPaddles> but it'd be super cool as changeling blood

07:56 * MarsToSirius actually kinda wants to go to bed too

07:56 <CrassyPaddles> and I wouldn't put it past the ponies to do such a thing

07:56 <ConfusionRift> Actually... she used the same thing to identify Twilight. Hmmm. Don't think it's just paint.

07:56 <CrassyPaddles> I mean, Fluttershy was about ready to murder the two ON THE SPOT.

07:57 <CrassyPaddles> these ponies HATE changelings.

07:57 <MarsToSirius> That could contribute too

07:57 <MarsToSirius> The sheer shock of Fluttershy staring down Twilight with murder in her eyes

07:57 <CrassyPaddles> so changeling blood?

07:57 <MarsToSirius> no

07:57 <CrassyPaddles> maybe the blood of murdered brethren is what causes disguised changelings to turn?

07:58 <MarsToSirius> it's grim, not freaking fimfiction

07:58 <CrassyPaddles> I dunno

07:58 <CrassyPaddles> war?

07:58 <CrassyPaddles> amputees?

07:58 <CrassyPaddles> Implied murder of Zecora?

07:59 <CrassyPaddles> apocalyptic wasteland?

07:59 <MarsToSirius> That's a bit different than "we wear the gore of our foes as warpaint"

07:59 <CrassyPaddles> this finale was ridiculously grim.

07:59 <MarsToSirius> It is, but here's something to think about, and I'm giong to make a kind of whacky comparison

07:59 <CrassyPaddles> I like whacky comparisons

07:59 <MarsToSirius> Death metal.

08:00 <MarsToSirius> two popular subject matter: gore, and the apocalypse/end times/end of humankind.

08:00 <MarsToSirius> The latter is often done in a very "awe-inspiring" way, where nothing is laid out in detail but it invokes impending doom and the belief that you should respect the direness of the situation.

08:01 <MarsToSirius> The former is mostly Cannibal Corpse-grade stuff, but that's not what I listen to.

08:02 <MarsToSirius> You can have a war and still have it be ... well, PG. That there's /clearly/ bad stuff going on, to the point where ponies are fighting amongst themselves, but it's cartoony violence and stuff like Dash's metal wing and ear-mark are bloodless reminders of battlescars.

08:02 <CrassyPaddles> sure, the idea is the latter, war, that's something that people are forced to take part in, forced to be brutal.

08:03 <CrassyPaddles> but wearing your enemy's blood? that's some sort of sadism.

08:03 <MarsToSirius> The thing is... those two could also be interpreted, especially by younger kids, as just being cosmetic things. Dash decides she wants one of her wings to be armored, and the clipped ear is merely some form of braggadocio.

08:03 <MarsToSirius> Right.

08:03 <MarsToSirius> Very decidedly not in the spirit of FIM.

08:03 <CrassyPaddles> unless wearing the blood is necessary as well

08:04 <CrassyPaddles> like it's required as a spychecking mechanism.

08:04 <MarsToSirius> FIM isn't the sugarbowl series it used to be. But it always maintains an overall tone of the heroes maintaining their... humanity, as it were

08:04 <CrassyPaddles> then it's not sadism, but survival that motivates the violence.

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08:05 <CrassyPaddles> but it's just a silly headcanon of mine that could work

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08:05 <MarsToSirius> War involves vanquishing the foe. Sadism involves mutilation of the foe.

08:06 <MarsToSirius> FIM is fine with vanquishing, but heroes stop there, because their enemy has been defeated in whatever way the universe requires.

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08:07 <CrassyPaddles> but if the blood is necessary for spy checking, then the blood paint is not motivated by sadism

08:07 <CrassyPaddles> changeling blood also explains why it's good for spy checking changelings.

08:08 <CrassyPaddles> makes a little more sense than just random herbs

08:08 <MarsToSirius> We had enough of a discussion on how magic works, who the hell knows how herblore and shamanry works

08:08 <CrassyPaddles> I mean it just makes more intuitive sense I suppose

08:09 <CrassyPaddles> also, the stuff about it not fitting the tone of MLP, that's an out of universe explanation.

08:09 <CrassyPaddles> It's the same class of explanations that "it's just a kid's show" falls under.

08:10 <MarsToSirius> We've spent five seasons watching our six heroines stop at the point where their enemy either is defeated or escapes.

08:10 <CrassyPaddles> I don't think any stock should be given for out of universe explanations, only in universe.

08:10 <MarsToSirius> meh. bedtiem.

08:10 <CrassyPaddles> yeah, but that FS and PP, they aren't the ponies we saw for those seasons?

08:10 <CrassyPaddles> These are ponies hardened by seeing the beloved homes destroyed and pushed to the brink of extinction.

08:11 <CrassyPaddles> these are ponies about to murder what they think are changelings.

08:11 <CrassyPaddles> sure there's no way that the creators will say that it's changeling blood, but it's not implausible that it is.

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08:12 <ConfusionRift> Huh. This is sorta drowning out.

08:13 <CrassyPaddles> what is drowning what?

08:14 <Cocobed> !link https://youtu.be/qREKP9oijWI

08:14 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Relaxing 3 Hour Video of A Tropical Beach with Blue Sky White Sand and Palm Tree

08:14 <ConfusionRift> Here's the thing. Zecora uses a similar (or the same) paint like substance on Twilight to identify her. Chances are, this reacts negatively on changelings. So, I'm not sure it's their blood.

08:14 <CrassyPaddles> ConfusionRift, I'm not saying it is. Just that there's good reason to believe it is.

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08:15 <CrassyPaddles> And there's nothing in universe that would refute it.

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08:16 <ConfusionRift> Eeerm... sure.

08:17 <CrassyPaddles> it explains certain things well, I think

08:17 <ConfusionRift> I just mentioned a good reason why it wouldn't be, but okay.

08:18 <CrassyPaddles> eh?

08:18 <CrassyPaddles> where

08:18 <ConfusionRift> then again, it probably changes color or shines when used on a changeling.

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08:22 <CrassyPaddles> changeling blood seems more likely to do the trick than some random plant out there.

08:22 <CrassyPaddles> it's also explain the green

08:25 <ConfusionRift> Green. I don't think green changeling blood was established. Anyways, there is flora that is reactant to specific species. And yes, this is real. Which would present a change for there to be a plant in the Everfree forest that could do this. Considering that barely anything in that forest is explained, I say the chance is very high.

08:25 <Cocobed> !link https://youtu.be/m29Xcea1ZSs

08:25 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Chip 'N Dale: Rescue Rangers Full Intro HD

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08:27 <TheWalrus> Wow this has been going on for hours

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08:28 <CrassyPaddles> sure, there are plenty of other explanations.

08:28 <CrassyPaddles> But if someone told you that changeling blood was green, or you found out, you'd go "Makes sense."

08:28 <ConfusionRift> Yes, that's true. Alas, we don't know.

08:28 <CrassyPaddles> If you found out that it was red, you'd go "uhhh...sure. Fine."

08:29 <CrassyPaddles> Likewise

08:29 <ConfusionRift> In other words, it's a 50-50 whether it's true or false.

08:29 <CrassyPaddles> If you found out that zecora used some random magical flower to make the paint, you'd shrug it off as some random macguffin they conjured up for plot convenience.

08:30 <ConfusionRift> Maybe we're all wrong and it's just latex paint.

08:30 <CrassyPaddles> if you found out that it was actual changeling blood, you'd go "as messed up as that is, I can see it working like that."

08:30 <ConfusionRift> We're sorta falling on redundancy here.

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08:32 <TheWalrus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ugebzq3juE

08:33 <Cocobed> Heheh

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08:34 <CrassyPaddles> hey, maybe that's even how Chryssie found the hideout

08:34 <CrassyPaddles> the ponies killed so many of her scouts there that she grew suspicious as to why no scouts returned from that part of the everfree

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08:42 <ConfusionRift> Wait. Another thing doesn't make sense. There are so many changelings, yet they can't carpet search the whole forest to find this large clearing with ponies?

08:42 <ConfusionRift> There were sentries within them too.

08:45 <CrassyPaddles> these ponies were effed from the beginning

08:45 <CrassyPaddles> all Chryssie has to do is to keep track of each place she sends the changeling, and then when one doesn't come back b/c the scout is killed, she sends a bunch more to investigate that spot

08:45 <ConfusionRift> I think changelings have the numbers, but not the smarts.

08:47 <CrassyPaddles> you just have changelings pretending to be captured ponies to get the sentries to lead them back to their camp, and then once they do, escape and report, or if you get killed, now Chryssie knows where to look

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08:58 * ConfusionRift looks around.

08:58 <ConfusionRift> Buuuaaaahahaaah!

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09:53 <bms2993> I did an animation thing :3

09:53 <bms2993> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCY0UFf7qG0

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10:42 <Midnight_Lilly> Flip

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10:43 <Cocobed> There's actually some things you're doing pretty nicely there bms2993 not bad

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10:44 <Cocobed> Mostly the way you vary the timing is nice, I like it

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10:47 <Cocobed> I'm pretty sure that wasn't an accident, but overall I like the timing in general

10:47 <Cocobed> As well

10:48 * Cocobed noms some noodles~ maybe I can sleep now

10:50 <Cocobed> Ew, those noodles were stale D:

10:50 * Cocobed has nightmares :<

10:50 <Cocobed> !lullaby

10:50 * DerpyBot carries Cocobed off to bed

10:50 * DerpyBot tucks Cocobed in and hums a lullaby

11:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Early Morning Discussion #359 [ http://tinyurl.com/ne9g4le ]

11:06 <Finwe> o3o

11:11 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

11:12 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

11:12 <Finwe> _o7

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11:45 <PostNinja> hello to you too xD

11:45 * Finwe puts a "Not A Ninja" T-shirt on PostNinja.

11:45 <Finwe> That should make you more inconspicuous.

11:56 <PostNinja> best way to hide is to hide in plain sight!

11:58 * ConfusionRift has been staring at the whole commotion.

12:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Awesome PMV: Mystery of the Missing Diamond  [ http://tinyurl.com/zsnet8d ]

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12:14 <Grogar> I hurt like hell.

12:14 <Grogar> As usual.

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12:15 <Schism> Ah yes - the Wubmachine in episode 100 jumped over this.  http://i.imgur.com/XIpRxql.png

12:16 <ConfusionRift> Okay?

12:17 <Tirek> The shark's been jumped. It's all downhill from here.

12:20 * ConfusionRift nods.

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12:21 <S_B> hello

12:21 <ConfusionRift> Hello there.

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12:21 <S_B> hi ConfusionRift

12:22 <S_B> ive been away for some time and in that time ive changed my name lol

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12:33 <AndroUser2> Hello

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12:34 <S_B> hi Who_Known

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12:46 * ConfusionRift sighs in relief. "Got.. all the armors."

12:49 <Schism> Ooh.

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12:49 * Schism also notes, "Pinks gotta pink." http://i.imgur.com/KbsBbtp.gif

12:50 <ConfusionRift> Pinkie made of Lego confirmed.

12:53 <Schism> And how did I miss this bit?  http://i.imgur.com/IwmiqHI.jpg

12:54 <Schism> If that doesn't look familiar to you, IT SHOULD.

12:55 <ConfusionRift> But it doesn't.

12:55 <Schism> It's one of the more recognizable album covers ever.

12:55 <Schism> Tirek probably recognizes it.

12:55 <ConfusionRift> ....hmmm...oooh...Ooooh... Nope, got nothing.

12:56 <Schism> Bah, here you go.  http://d817ypd61vbww.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/tile/image/original_460.jpg

12:57 <ConfusionRift> Thank you, sir. :P

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13:03 <ConfusionRift> Didn't followed the Beatles, hence why I didn't know.

13:05 * ConfusionRift puts a silly hat, on silly Schism. It's a shoe.

13:08 * Schism peers at ConfusionRift. Points at a sign reading 'Silly Hats Only'.

13:09 * ConfusionRift points at the cooking pot on his head.

13:09 <Schism> Very well, then.

13:10 * Schism puts a pot on the head of every NPC in Whiterun, and uses that to powerlevel Sneak.

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13:12 <ConfusionRift> Oh, I saw that.

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13:14 <ConfusionRift> "Hello there, sir. How can I help you?" (sees a pot reaching his head) "What are you doing? You know I can't see, right? Well, I hope I don't get robbed. I could remove it, but I trust you." (pot falls off, sees his home gone) "Oh..."

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13:19 <Schism> ConfusionRift: Yeah, it's a mean thing to do for many shopkeepers, but some... well.

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13:22 * ConfusionRift pokes Schism with a flower.

13:23 * Schism peers at the flower. "Howdy!"

13:23 <ConfusionRift> Why are you talking to the flower? :P

13:23 <Schism> Just in case.  Flowers can be dangerous, you know.

13:24 <ConfusionRift> Especially those in caves. Right?

13:24 <Schism> Yus.

13:24 * Schism adds, "Or, at least, the Underground."

13:24 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, caved in. And... yeah... goooot iiiiiiit.

13:24 <Schism> Oh, there's another game that provided the feels.  Cave Story.

13:24 <ConfusionRift> But not playing it today. Will be later in the evening.

13:25 <ConfusionRift> Got a bit stuck in Cave Story.

13:25 <Schism> Lemme guess: the Island Core?

13:26 <ConfusionRift> Did get a bit jammed there, but did beat it. It was between the final fights. Or should I say, "final fight".

13:26 <Schism> Ah, Misery and the Doctor, yes.

13:27 <ConfusionRift> The second phase of it.

13:27 <Schism> Those fights /are/ hard, but they're as nothing compared to what you've got coming next - well, if you saved Curly.

13:27 <ConfusionRift> That's the thing...

13:27 <Schism> But the second phase of the Doctor, where he rushes you - yeah, that's a pain.

13:27 <ConfusionRift> I had no idea...

13:28 <Schism> Oh well, a second playthrough awaits.  I missed her the first time, too.

13:28 <ConfusionRift> Parameters that I was not aware of. Like MMX5. Speaking of which... (points at Sigma)

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13:33 <DARK> hello =)

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13:34 <Who_know> Hello

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13:40 <ConfusionRift> And that's the end of the game. Guuuuh. I didn't know the last part was gonna be this cheap.

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13:42 * ConfusionRift patpats Schism's hat, and flops. "Will probably try to beat one of those games."

13:42 <ConfusionRift> Not now though, it's late and misa is tired.

13:43 <Schism> Yes, sleep is of the good there.

13:44 <ConfusionRift> Wow, the game was shorter than I thought. Wait... that makes no sense.

13:47 <ConfusionRift> Beat MMX5 in less than two hours.

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13:51 <Schism> That's about the right length for a Megaman game.

13:51 <ConfusionRift> "There's a very rare chance of destroying the colony with the enigma even with all the parts. All you can do is gather all 4 parts and hope it works."

13:52 <ConfusionRift> Reaaally? Shesh. That sucks.

13:52 <ConfusionRift> It's a change that you can get certain things in the game.

13:53 <ConfusionRift> I got an unlucky-lucky outcome this time.

13:53 <ConfusionRift> Phase 1 failed, but phase 2 was a complete success. So I was able to get all the armors.

13:55 <ConfusionRift> At one point... One point, long ago, I got lucky in the first phase, and I basically could skip part of the second half of the game.

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13:57 <ConfusionRift> I really hate time limits. This is one of the reasons why I was hesitant to play Majora's Mask back then.

13:57 <ConfusionRift> Anyways, sleep time. Laters.

13:57 <Schism> Thankfully, Majora's Mask isn't really a /time limit/ so much... oh well!

13:58 <Schism> Sleep well.

13:58 <ConfusionRift> True, but still. It's the anxiety issue.

13:58 <Schism> That's reasonable.

13:59 <ConfusionRift> I have 72 hours? Cool! I can beat this.... (looks at the clock fly by) No I don't!!!

14:01 <Schism> Heehee.  Well, then you learn the Song of Time, and then the Slow-Time song, and things get a bit less frantic.  A LOT less frantic.

14:01 <ConfusionRift> Not sure why they made that pretty obscured.

14:02 <ConfusionRift> And a friend told me about the song to skip half a day.

14:02 <ConfusionRift> I still beat it. I just... keep hesitating to go back to it.

14:03 <ConfusionRift> Anyways, will talk later. Gotta sleeeeep.

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14:42 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

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14:45 <DataByte> Thelema5, looking for some advice..

14:45 <Thelema5> Sure?

14:45 <DataByte> it seems as though the finance department is trying to deny me payment for my overtime last bi-week period, because i took a sick day

14:45 <DataByte> do you know anything about these things?

14:45 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Hi.

14:46 <Thelema5> I do, although laws vary by state and other circumstance.  Are you a salaried employee, or do you charge your time hourly?

14:46 <DataByte> hourly

14:47 * The_Nostalgia_Mare noms DataByte.

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14:47 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Guys.

14:47 * wobniaR slaps The_Nostalgia_Mare with unbridled amounts of nostalgia

14:47 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> You remember Samurai Jack?

14:47 <wobniaR> Yes new series 2016

14:48 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> !link https://youtu.be/yzIxLwVwtiQ

14:48 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Jack is Back | Samurai Jack | Adult Swim

14:48 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> New season.

14:48 <Thelema5> Generally speaking, overtime is paid at time and a half for actual hours worked in excess of 40 hours, accrued weekly- so if you worked 45 hours one week, and 32 hours the next (with 8 hours of sick pay) you should get your overtime for the first week... at least in New York.

14:48 <Thelema5> I think this is standard under FLSA, so it should apply for you as well.

14:49 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> wobniaR, We need Megas XLR now.

14:50 <wobniaR> Probably not gonna happen

14:50 <Thelema5> Here's a useful FLSA factsheet, DataByte http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs23.pdf

14:50 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Let me dream, wobniaR!

14:50 <DataByte> i would understand if i was trying to claim overtime /on/ a sick day, but i'm not

14:50 <Who_Know> Hello Thelema5 :)

14:51 <wobniaR> I'll make your dreams into memes

14:51 <Thelema5> Was the sick time taken in the same workweek as the overtime?\

14:51 <Thelema5> Hello, Who_Know

14:51 <DataByte> i was sick-normal-overtime-holiday-holiday (thanksgiving)

14:52 <wobniaR> I'm not sure if overtime kicks in if you take a sick day/holiday, i haven1t had the opportunity to work overtime yet

14:52 <Thelema5> On, then you probably don't qualify because overtime is based on actual hours worked in a workweek, not based on an 8 hour day

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14:52 <wobniaR> But on my timesheet i don't mark hours worked for holidays and sick days

14:52 <ADragonHoarding> Throw pickles at the problem.

14:53 <wobniaR> So i still get paid for those days, but it's not technically working hours

14:53 * wobniaR tosses fermented cucumbers at ADragonHoarding

14:54 <DataByte> i'm still paid 8 hours for sick days, vacation days, holiday, etc

14:54 <Thelema5> You could technically work two 20 hour days in a row followed by three sick days (paid at 8 hours each) and still not get overtime.

14:55 <Thelema5> Even though you're being paid for 56 hours, there was no actual time worked in excess of 40 hours.

14:55 <DataByte> but that would also mean overtime during a week with a holiday would be pointless..

14:55 <ADragonHoarding> not necessarily.

14:56 <DataByte> it's not time worked

14:56 <wobniaR> It's still more money

14:56 <ADragonHoarding> It all depends on how things are calculated.

14:56 <Thelema5> Pretty much.  I think the problem here is that you're thinking in terms of an 8 hour day, which isn't standard.  Many people have a 10 hour day, 4 day workweek.  They don't receive overtime for the "extra" 2 hours each day...

14:57 <ADragonHoarding> at the shop I used to work at, if you worked on day you would get holiday pay, you got double time for the actual time worked.

14:57 <wobniaR> I wouldn't mind 10 hours 4 days, that's one less day i have to get out of bed

14:57 <DataByte> the spreadsheet we turn in for timecards includes slots for daily overtime

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14:57 <Thelema5> Policies vary by company, but the Federal Labor Standards Act don't require it.

14:58 <ADragonHoarding> My current job treats planned overtime hours as time-and-a-half.

14:58 <Thelema5> Do you have an employee handbook, DataByte?

14:58 <DataByte> yep.. looking through it now

14:59 <ADragonHoarding> If you happen to get a call just before your shift is up and therefore have to stay another half hour, you get paid normal rate for that, because unplanned overtime.

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14:59 <Thelema5> That is really the letter of the law- if your company has established a policy which ammends federal standards then they are legally obliged to follow it.

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15:00 * Thelema5 goes to get coffee

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15:01 <DataByte> "The basic day work for a full-time employee is eight hours, excessive of the one (1) hour meal period. Employees may be required to work overtime or hours other than those normally scheduled when business necessitates."

15:01 <wobniaR> Coffee is evil

15:01 <DataByte> right there - any time more than 8 hours a day is overtime

15:02 <ADragonHoarding> So then you have find how they compensate for overtime.

15:02 <ADragonHoarding> *have to

15:02 <Princess-Luna> Coffee is wonderful!

15:02 <wobniaR> Lies

15:02 <ADragonHoarding> Coffee is wonderful lies?

15:02 <wobniaR> Especially black coffee with no sugar or milk

15:02 <Princess-Luna> xD

15:07 <Thelema5> "Overtime /or/ hours other than those scheduled" to me suggests that they mean "time in excess of your regular full-time schedule"

15:07 <DataByte> which is 8 hours

15:07 <DataByte> i have no changing schedule

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15:07 <Thelema5> In other words, you may be asked to work more, or different hours

15:07 <DataByte> yep

15:07 <wobniaR> Woo ambiguously worded policies

15:08 <Thelema5> Don'tcha just love those?

15:12 <Thelema5> Oh for crying out loud: http://mashable.com/2015/12/03/hoverboards-seized-uk/

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15:12 <Schism> "Many of the seized devices were at risk of exploding or catching fire. "

15:12 <Thelema5> Perfect.

15:13 <Princess-Luna> lol

15:13 <Princess-Luna> Oh dear

15:13 <Thelema5> Last nail in the coffin for these ever becoming accepted.

15:14 <wobniaR> Those things aren't real hoverboards anyway, just lies

15:14 <wobniaR> Back to the future lied

15:14 * Princess-Luna baps wobniaR

15:14 <Electron^Napping> Sour_Sweet, what did you do to me this time? ( -_-)

15:14 <Thelema5> "You're not getting one of those!  You'll put your eye out, or worse- burn the house down!  Don't you know they're illegal in many cities?"

15:14 *** Electron^Napping is now known as Electron

15:15 <Thelema5> wobniaR, I agree- calling them hoverboards is just silly.

15:15 <Thelema5> They're still supercool.

15:15 <wobniaR> It makes them sound kooler for the kool kids

15:15 <Thelema5> I want teh b a kool kidz!

15:15 <wobniaR> This kids riding a hoverboard he so kool

15:16 <wobniaR> Meanwhile i'm gonna be swaggin down the block with my razr scooter

15:16 <Thelema5> Heh.

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15:17 <Sour_Sweet> Nothin' ^o^

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15:18 <SilverString> yaaawwwwnnn

15:18 <Librarian> owo

15:18 <Librarian> hai

15:18 <SilverString> hey

15:18 <Electron> What kind of "nothing", Sour_Sweet? ( -_-)

15:18 <Electron> Hello.

15:19 <wobniaR> Sweet nothings

15:19 <SilverString> Hi Electron

15:20 * Electron waves to SilverString

15:21 * SilverString waves back with wing

15:22 <SilverString> How is everypony doing?

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15:22 <Electron> I'm trying to figure out what Sour_Sweet did to me while I was asleep.

15:23 <SilverString> Reversed your polarity?

15:23 <Thelema5> I'm doing okay.  Just working, about to (shudder) head down to speak with our maintenance manager about reported safety deficiencies.  That'll be fun.

15:23 <Electron> !mbox

15:24 <Electron> I have 2 mails. And?

15:24 <Librarian> im having health issues owo

15:24 <Electron> How do I read them?

15:24 <Librarian> tummy hurts

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15:25 <mniip> welp, I just watched the season finale

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15:25 * Sour_Sweet 's tail swipes of Electron's nose multiple times. "Don't know what you're talking about"

15:26 <SilverString> awright I'll be back later!

15:26 * Thelema5 pattypats librarians tummy

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15:32 <Electron> !mbox list

15:33 <Electron> !mbox read 1

15:33 <Electron> !mbox read 2

15:33 <Electron> Gah! D:

15:36 <Schism> Boops by mail, free of charge.

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15:37 * Thelema5 gathers everypony up and hugs!

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15:42 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/aCg6FdvTUgA?t=5m33s

15:42 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

15:42 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about SPIKE JONES: Poet and Peasant Overture

15:43 <Thelema5> Now /that's/ entertainment

15:43 <Thelema5> O.o

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15:45 * Electron gives Thelema5 20 bonus points

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15:46 <FN> http://9gag.com/gag/aBrpMrP

15:46 <FN> Adowable wabbit

15:46 * Thelema5 juggles the bonus points while riding a unicycle through a pool filled with little pickles

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15:52 * Cepheid flops into the room.

15:53 * Electron throws a big blanket over Cepheid

15:59 * Electron holds a banana like a gun, points it at Sour_Sweet

16:01 * Sour_Sweet takes a bite of the banana.

16:01 <Electron> ¬('-' )

16:01 <Electron> Shucks.

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16:09 * Sour_Sweet applies Minions to Electron.

16:10 <Electron> Minions? Meh...

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16:16 <Daring-Do> Hey, guys.

16:18 * FlutterButter glomps Daring-Do

16:19 * Schism offers Cepheid some fried noodles with bok choi and beef, along with insanely spicy sauce.

16:19 <Daring-Do> Hey, Schism.

16:19 <Daring-Do> Did you see what I said before?

16:19 <Schism> Hihi.  Nope.

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16:19 * Cepheid noms.

16:19 <Daring-Do> Found a great fanfic writer, really good with language. Eloquent and it flowed really nicely.

16:20 <Schism> Oh?  Who is it?

16:20 <Daring-Do> Skywriter.

16:20 <Schism> Yup, Jeffrey Wells.  :D

16:20 <Schism> The writer of Skin Horse, a comic you may be familiar with.

16:20 <Cepheid> Fun note about Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold, Schism.  Apparently during the development of the DLC, one of the developers was apparently reading Cthulhu mythos stuff.

16:21 <Schism> Iiiinteresting, Cephy.

16:22 <Cepheid> One of the DLC is a fight against one of the Hounds of Tindalos.  Or appears to be, anyways.  The DLC introduces a boss called Tindalos.

16:22 <Schism> Daring-Do, 'Contraptionology' remains one of my favourites.  As well as 'Shipping Sickness'.

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16:22 <Daring-Do> I read the first two fics of the Cadance of Cloudsdale cycle.

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16:22 <Daring-Do> And the first.. chapter of the third fic.

16:23 <Daring-Do> It made me uncomfortable and I don't want to go on.

16:23 <Schism> I haven't really read those ones myself... and ah.

16:23 <FlutterButter> ?

16:23 * FlutterButter boops DataByte

16:23 <DataByte> can't you ever decide on a name? :P

16:24 <GigaWork> Obviously a changeling ;p

16:24 <Daring-Do> I recommend the first 2, though.

16:24 <FlutterButter> No DataByte

16:24 * DataByte boops FlutterButter with a bubble-flavored muffin

16:24 <Thelema5> Eww

16:24 <FlutterButter> I RP so I change nicks

16:25 * FlutterButter turns into a muffin

16:25 <Cepheid> Yes, Tizzy, I'm not paying attention to you, go and bite me very hard, that'll make me pay attention to you.  =.=;

16:25 <Schism> It generally does...

16:25 <GigaWork> Lol

16:25 <DataByte> my cats would discover that flying through the air to land on the other side of the room is the attention they get for biting

16:26 * Thelema5 bites DataByte

16:26 * DataByte nips Thelema5 on the ear

16:26 <Schism> "That gum you like is coming back in style."

16:26 * Thelema5 flies through the air!

16:26 <DataByte> lol

16:27 <Thelema5> Sometimes, do your arms bend back?

16:29 <Thelema5> I heard that David Lynch is backing out of doing season 3 of Twin Peaks

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16:31 <Thelema5> Ah!  Apparently that is outdated information- looks like he's back on the project http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/aug/11/twin-peaks-david-lynch-long-movie-episodes

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16:34 <Schism> Ahh, excellent.  And it's a full reboot.

16:34 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/neo_touj0u/status/672079818112937985

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16:34 <ModernChic01> hello

16:35 <Cepheid> Dang, that link doesn't link to the right post..

16:37 <Thelema5> Hello, ModernChic01

16:38 <Electron> Hello.

16:39 <Thelema5> Thanks Cepheid- I will now have nightmares about children having their teeth ripped out by motorbikes.  O.o

16:39 <Thelema5> Not really, but eww.

16:40 <wobniaR> I don't even have nightmares anymore, it's boring

16:40 <Electron> A crossover of MLP and WarCraft.

16:40 * Electron snickers

16:40 <Thelema5> I never remember my dreams at all, wobniaR.  I could have nightmares every night, for all I know, or never.

16:41 <Thelema5> :P

16:41 <wobniaR> I have lucid dreams with some control and knowledge over them but lately i can't remember much

16:41 <wobniaR> Work and 6 hours of sleep a night really hurts my ability to dream

16:42 <Cepheid> Yeah, I know.

16:42 <Cepheid> Wrong video, Thelema5.  I didn't realize the tweet I linked was part of a long chain of videos.

16:43 <wobniaR> At least i can sleep in on saturdays now that we're on hiatus

16:43 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlmAAdtLrKg Here, this is the video I intended to link.

16:43 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

16:43 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Cat With A Ribbon On Its Head

16:43 <ADragonHoarding> You know what I absolutely love?

16:43 <ADragonHoarding> I love it when the tools I need to do my job are on the fritz.

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16:44 <Thelema5> D'aw, silly kitty

16:44 <Thelema5> :P

16:44 <Schism> Anyway, yes.  If you haven't read Skin Horse, Daring-Do, then do so!  ...just be prepared for a long, long time spent reading it.

16:44 <Thelema5> That can be very frustrating, ADragonHoarding

16:44 <ADragonHoarding> I stopped somewhere after the werewolf town.

16:44 <ADragonHoarding> Thelema5: yep.

16:45 * FlutterButter hats on ADragonHoarding

16:45 <Schism> Adra: Ah yes, the Alaska storyline.

16:46 <Cepheid> Hum, because I got all the chores done yesterday, there's nothin' for me to do today.

16:47 <FN> I ate a burger and now I have no will to move...

16:47 <FN> Ugh

16:49 <FN> I. Need. To muster. Strength. To complete. My chores.

16:50 <FlutterButter> No..

16:52 <Cepheid> FN, drop and give me 20 push-ups.

16:52 <FN> I'm afraid that would make me puke

16:52 <FN> ANd the burger was too tasty to go to waste like that

16:53 <Cepheid> Fair enough.

16:53 * Cepheid does 20 push-ups.

16:54 <Cepheid> Hey Schism, you're better at preparing food and stuff than I am, I have a question for you.  If I were to take a coffee filter, put it over a glass, fill it with ground coffee beans, then pour boiling water over it, would that have the same effect as a coffee making machine?

16:54 <Cepheid> I mean, I guess I can always TRY and see what happens, but yeah.

16:55 <FN> Nope

16:55 <FN> That would be the same effect as so called "coffee dripper" machine

16:55 <Kalastraer> hello friends

16:55 <Schism> Only to a /small/ extent.  What I would suggest doing is having the hot (not quite boiling!) water percolate with the grounds, then use a filter to strain the result.

16:55 <MarsToSirius> You're going to have cold, coffee-flavored water.

16:55 <Cepheid> Ah.

16:55 <FN> Which is regarded as the crappiest of all the coffee machines

16:55 <Cepheid> Okay then.

16:56 <Cepheid> Just thought I'd ask.

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16:57 <FN> Cooking coffee on the stove is the best way to extract the flavour still

16:57 <FN> But it requires copper container and a bit of skill to know when it is done

16:58 <Thelema5> I find that stovetop percolation yields a bitter brew- I strongly reccommend that anypony who likes coffee should buy a so-called "french press"

16:58 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/HT24uR8kh6A?t=3m8s Man, Tindalos looks CREEPY.

16:58 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

16:58 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold - Tindalos (新・世界樹の迷宮2 追加DLC ティンダロス)

16:58 <FN> My stepdad knows how to do it, I have no cle

16:58 <FN> clue*

16:58 <Cepheid> Definitely an eldritch beast.

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17:00 <Cepheid> ... Wait wait wait.  Did that player just deal 4,700 damage to Tindalos and it only removed a SMALL FRACTION OF HIS HEALTH?

17:00 <FN> That looks counter-productive to have a teethed maw that has a thing which prevent it from closing

17:00 <Cepheid> It's an eldritch being.

17:00 <Cepheid> They generally don't make sense.

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17:01 <Cepheid> Heck, the Hounds of Tindalos apparently haunt and taunt their victims, driving them insane over time.

17:01 <Cepheid> And the victims usually start doing weird things like applying plaster of paris to all corners to "keep them out."

17:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Story: So Her Legacy Will Endure [ http://tinyurl.com/j73bllj ]

17:01 <Cepheid> Because sharp angles are apparently a way for the creatures to get in.

17:01 <MarsToSirius> We need to make our bunker child-safe

17:03 <wobniaR> That's like trying to make a room cat-proof

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17:03 <wobniaR> It's unpossible

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17:04 <Cepheid> Besides, I think the weird designs of eldritch beings are supposed to be due to the fact that the brains of living creatures are literally folding in on themselves in attempting to perceive what they're seeing.

17:05 <Kalastraer> hi

17:06 <Cepheid> That said, I've seen weirder than Tindalos.  Hold on.

17:07 <Electron> Hi.

17:07 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Z0UWULXl0

17:07 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

17:07 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Etrian Odyssey IV: Warped Savior [No Chemicals]

17:07 <Cepheid> Warped Savior, true final boss of Etrian Odyssey 4.

17:08 <Schism> No chemicals, either.

17:08 <Schism> (The boss requires -- SUGGESTS, rather -- that you press several chemical dispensers on the map to weaken it in various ways before you fight it.)

17:09 <Cepheid> Aye.

17:09 <Cepheid> But that only works on the first form.

17:09 <Cepheid> Second form, it has no effect.

17:09 <Cepheid> At least, from what I saw.

17:10 <Thelema5> The details coming out about yesterday's tragic shooting event in California are just... so strange strange that it requires a real leap of faith to accept the narrative as given.

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17:11 <Cepheid> Hum, actually no I'm wrong.

17:11 <Thelema5> A mild mannered middle class married couple with an infant daugter attend the husband's office party, leave it after a minor dispute, and return armed to the teeth with body armor, assault rifles, and pipe bombs?

17:12 <MarsToSirius> People be super cray cray.

17:12 <Cepheid> According to the wiki I'm reading, the chemicals halve it's HP, reduce it's damage output, and allows Ragnarok.

17:12 <Daring-Do> Why you actin' so cray cray?

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17:12 <Schism> Prevent Ragnarok, you mean.

17:12 <Schism> Thelema5: I don't even know....

17:12 <Thelema5> A lone wolf thing I could understand and dismiss as cray-cray.  But two people working in tandem, with a child?

17:13 <Cepheid> Right, prevents.

17:13 <Thelema5> It just doesn't make sense.  I guess that's what they mean by senseless violence.

17:13 <Cepheid> Alas, I killed it with chemicals.  Mind you there's no reason to not use the chemicals other than a hard challenge.

17:17 <Schism> Hummm, Geo Impact is the only way to prevent its use of Ragnarok?  Nasty.

17:17 <wobniaR> That does sound unbelievable Thelema5, what source is it from?

17:17 <wobniaR> Cause i know they killed one suspect but i don't know what happened to the other

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17:18 <Thelema5> wobniaR, it's on every news outlet

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17:19 <Librarian> hewwo teach

17:19 <Librarian> good morning

17:20 <Daring-Do> Morning, Librarian.

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17:20 <Librarian> more random shootings

17:20 <Librarian> what a world

17:21 <MDP> mornin everypony

17:21 <Thelema5> Morning.

17:22 <Cepheid> Schism: One trait bothers me about the Warped Savior.

17:23 <Cepheid> Etrian Odyssey 4 had the feel of it being "easier" than the previous games.  And given I killed every enemy in that game at least once(Including the Fallen One), and the fact that they allow you to weaken the Warped Savior...

17:23 <Cepheid> Just... how hard is the Primevil or Ur-Child?

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17:25 <Schism> Iiiinteresting question...

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17:31 <Librarian> its vewy vewy quiet

17:32 <Librarian> are we hunting wabbits?

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17:32 <Daring-Do> Welsh ones, maybe.

17:32 <Electron> Wat wazzat?

17:33 <DataByte> Thelema5: talked to my boss about it.. apparently, he' on a 40-hour-based salary, and hasn't ever been paid for overtime

17:36 <Thelema5> He is likely FLSA exempt, being both salaried and in a supervising managerial role.

17:37 <Thelema5> Exempt employees receive the same salary whether they work 10 hours, or 70 hours.

17:37 <DataByte> what are the exemptions?

17:37 <wobniaR> Yep

17:37 <Electron> Librarian, https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/74/d7/b1/74d7b171231c861be17cc9c60f51886a.jpg

17:37 <Thelema5> So it's a totally different ballpark.

17:37 <Thelema5> There's a checklist- hang on

17:37 <wobniaR> You can be made to work for 70 hours and only get paid for 40

17:38 <wobniaR> But that's salary

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17:38 <Thelema5> http://www.nibmimages.com/nibm/Audit-TestYourCompliance.pdf

17:38 <Daring-Do> Well, I'm off for now. See you, guys.

17:38 <Thelema5> bye!

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17:38 <DataByte> thanks, Thelema5

17:39 <DataByte> looking over that..

17:39 <Thelema5> wobniaR, it's a common misconception that salried people shouldn't be paid overtime- many people on salary do not meet the FLSA exemption guidelines, and must be compensated for overtime just like anyone else.

17:39 <Thelema5> *salaried

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17:41 <DataByte> he fits 3/4 of the requirements for an exempt executive employee

17:41 <wobniaR> They should be paid overtime, but some salary employees don't

17:42 <Thelema5> DataByte, in that case your company is technically in violation of the federal guidelines.

17:42 <DataByte> which is not a first

17:43 <Thelema5> To be fair, though, I've /never/ worked for an employeer who followed overtime laws to the letter.

17:43 <wobniaR> If that's true he could try to fite it, but depending on how often you work overtime it might not be worth it

17:43 <DataByte> apparently, he doesn't want me telling anyone that we've been in violation of this and several other things for the past decade

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17:43 <Thelema5> You have to choose your battles wisely.  It  often doesn't pay to rock the boat.

17:44 <Thelema5> Or more to the point, the boat is likely too big for your rocking to sway it much.

17:45 <DataByte> if i were to leave, they'd have a hard time were anything to go wrong

17:45 <wobniaR> This is nice to know though, i'll be sure to ask HR some questions before i go salary

17:45 <Thelema5> :P

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17:45 <Thelema5> I hate that I do this kind of stuff as part of my job

17:45 <wobniaR> That or ask my co-workers who have been here

17:46 <wobniaR> Do what? Management?

17:46 <DataByte> part of my overtime was spending 15 minutes fixing a database issue - on my PHONE in a store parking lot while i was ill (sister drove me) - fixing what an outside company wouldv'e charged $200 and 4 hours to fix

17:46 <Thelema5> HR, payroll, and management

17:46 <wobniaR> Someone's gotta do it

17:46 <DataByte> but they won't pay me for it, as i just found out

17:46 <wobniaR> You are doing way too much for one person though

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17:47 <Thelema5> Well, I work in a very unstable company, wobniaR- it's wise to make yourself as essential of an employee as posssible.

17:47 <wobniaR> True, especially if you value your employment

17:48 <Thelema5> None of those are even what I was hired for- I'm technically the digital marketing director.

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17:48 <wobniaR> If it ever stabilizes, delegation of duty should occur so you can focus on your actual job title

17:48 <Librarian> owo

17:48 <DataByte> quite a span of responsibilities, though.. here, (possibly because of the horrible management the finance director shows) we have 4 people to do payroll and etc

17:48 <Librarian> sounds important thelema

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17:49 <DataByte> plus hr, plus management, plus another manager..

17:49 <Thelema5> But, people leave and jobs get consolidated.  We have a new owner now who will be making changes soon- I just hope I remain in at least one job.  :p

17:49 <wobniaR> But we both know things never work as they should in companies

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17:50 <Thelema5> I'm sure your company is a lot larger and better funded that mine, DataByte.  We can barely pay the electric bills.

17:50 <Librarian> my company is tiny but well organized

17:51 <Librarian> its a well oiled disaster but it works fine

17:51 <Thelema5> Small companies are the best to work for, in my experience.

17:51 <DataByte> better funded only because of government.. it's awful

17:51 <SugarWing> hii

17:51 <Thelema5> Hello, SugarWing

17:51 <Librarian> hewwo

17:51 <SugarWing> :P

17:51 <SugarWing> i think im going to so a comic

17:51 * Thelema5 now suspects DataByte of working in a microbiological weapons lab

17:51 <maybebrony7> hi

17:51 <Librarian> i myself will inherit the office, and i will work with millions of dollars worths of money for insurance

17:52 <Librarian> good thing im honest

17:52 <Thelema5> That's awesome, Librarian

17:52 <Thelema5> Hello, maybebrony7!

17:52 <Librarian> i get a 10 percebt owo

17:52 <Thelema5> Welcome to a chat.

17:52 <SugarWing> :P

17:52 <maybebrony7> hi:)

17:52 <SugarWing> welcome!

17:52 <DataByte> Thelema, i'm sure they don't let IRC (or chatrooms in general) in places like that.. but who knows xD

17:52 <maybebrony7> thanks

17:52 <SugarWing> i still have the starlight feeling when i write welcomw

17:53 <wobniaR> Buenos dias

17:53 <maybebrony7> but just to be sure yure all bronies/pegasisters here?

17:53 <Schism> Welcome :)

17:53 <SugarWing> i did a generous thing

17:53 <wobniaR> What's a brony

17:53 <Schism> "Welcome." :) "Welcome." :) :)

17:53 <wobniaR> Is it a type of food?

17:53 <maybebrony7> a fan of my little pony you silly:)

17:54 <SugarWing> bro+pony

17:54 <wobniaR> Nope not me, i'm a fan of dora the explorer

17:54 <DataByte> small enough for a desk, or like a large box fan?

17:54 <maybebrony7> good for you

17:54 <maybebrony7> i think Diego is cooler

17:54 <wobniaR> Leggo my eggo diego

17:54 <Thelema5> Bronies sound delicious.

17:55 <maybebrony7> not bronies bronys

17:55 <Thelema5> maybebrony7, we're fooling around.  Yes, most of us are bronies.

17:55 * Cepheid throws Schism at the Blizzard King.

17:55 <maybebrony7> yes

17:55 <maybebrony7> :)

17:55 <Princess-Luna> xD

17:55 <maybebrony7> i maybe want to become one

17:55 <Librarian> im a bunch of things

17:55 <Librarian> its a good thing to be

17:55 <Princess-Luna> Starting is easy, all you have to do is enjoy pony!

17:55 <SugarWing> :P be one

17:55 <SugarWing> join the herd

17:55 <wobniaR> Except Princess-Luna, just a nerd there

17:55 <Thelema5> You think you can survive the initiation ceremony?

17:55 * Princess-Luna baps wobniaR

17:56 <Librarian> we get apple pie ebvery fiscal year

17:56 <maybebrony7> well i want to know a little bit more of the show!

17:56 <Librarian> ask away

17:56 <Princess-Luna> What would you like to know?

17:56 <Thelema5> !link welcome cider

17:56 <maybebrony7> what is a cutie mark?

17:56 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/2604

17:56 <SugarWing> its a magical tatto

17:56 <Thelema5> That link is for you, maybebrony7

17:56 <Princess-Luna> Cutie mark is a representation of a ponies talent/ability

17:57 <wobniaR> !link forever

17:57 <DerpyBot> http://derpibooru.org/203532

17:57 <maybebrony7> thanks:)

17:57 <Princess-Luna> usually comes when a pony realises their talent or particular ability in something

17:57 <maybebrony7> okay

17:57 <Thelema5> "butt mark"

17:57 <wobniaR> Butt tattoo*

17:58 <Thelema5> maybebrony7, have you watched many episodes of the show?

17:58 <maybebrony7> and how can a earth pony become a macical pony?

17:58 <maybebrony7> and no i dont sorry

17:58 <Princess-Luna> An earth pony IS a magical pony. :P

17:58 <Thelema5> All ponies have their own kind of magic.

17:58 <maybebrony7> o okay then

17:58 <mniip> remember: friendship is maaagic

17:58 <Librarian> earth pony are strong

17:58 <Librarian> unicorns command magic

17:58 <Princess-Luna> Earth ponies are the cultivators of the land and general growers of crops, food and whatnot

17:58 <wobniaR> Stronk and make fod grow from dirt

17:58 <Thelema5> Earth magic is strength, stability, and the power to grow- like the earth itself

17:58 <mniip> earth ponies can't into space

17:59 <maybebrony7> so it are unicorns

17:59 <Librarian> pegasi can fly and command the weather

17:59 <wobniaR> Spess

17:59 <Princess-Luna> Yep

17:59 <wobniaR> Want to go to spess

17:59 <maybebrony7> i Always thought they where something else

17:59 <Princess-Luna> ...I can help you with that, wobniaR! :3

17:59 <Princess-Luna> !moon wobniaR

17:59 <DerpyBot> Grab my tail, wobniaR!

17:59 <wobniaR> Pls

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17:59 <Librarian> lol

17:59 <maybebrony7> lol silly me!

17:59 <wobniaR> I should've seen that coming

17:59 <Librarian> you can moon others?

17:59 <Librarian> yay

18:00 <mniip> I suppose it's related to them being op

18:00 <Thelema5> Ah ha ha ha

18:00 <SugarWing> i'll be back soon

18:00 <Princess-Luna> x3 I'm an op, it's part of my reportoire

18:00 <wobniaR> Only if you're a half op and above

18:00 <maybebrony7> what is moon othres?

18:00 <Thelema5> Original Pony

18:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Whinny City Pony Con Announces Andrea Libman, Needs Volunteers [ http://tinyurl.com/po8oxb9 ]

18:00 <Sour_Sweet> Robomod is more fun ;-)

18:00 <Princess-Luna> Mooning is essentially just a kick from the channel, maybebrony7

18:00 <maybebrony7> thanks

18:00 <wobniaR> !seen urmom

18:00 <DerpyBot> wobniaR: The last time I saw urmom was 2015-10-08 20:32:19 UTC

18:01 <Princess-Luna> a reference to when Luna was banished to the moon via her sister in the show

18:01 <Thelema5> Woona

18:01 <wobniaR> And another not safe for woona video

18:01 <Princess-Luna> Wooooona

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18:01 <wobniaR> A really poorly animated one at that

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18:01 <Princess-Luna> you're poorly animated.

18:02 <wobniaR> Tru

18:02 * wobniaR moves at 3.8 fps

18:02 <maybebrony7> do you guys know where i can watch any episodes\

18:02 <maybebrony7> ?

18:02 <wobniaR> Dailymotion has more than youtube

18:02 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/Mt2mCq5sntc

18:02 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

18:02 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Oooooooooh

18:02 <wobniaR> Other than that you'll have to go to unlegal sources

18:03 <maybebrony7> oh

18:03 <Sour_Sweet> There are a few special sites. Also Netflix.

18:03 <maybebrony7> i dont like unlegal things!

18:03 <Thelema5> Unless you have Netflix

18:03 <wobniaR> Or pay an absurd amount of monies, oh yeah and netflix

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18:04 <Thelema5> Or have the TV channel Discovery Family (on demand)

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18:04 <GigaWork> Netflix is a half season behind for the episodes just fyi

18:04 <maybebrony7> do you know on witch channel it is?

18:04 <Princess-Luna> They go up this month, giga

18:05 <Thelema5> maybebrony7, why are you so interested in a show you've never seen?

18:05 <Thelema5> How did you hear about it?

18:05 <wobniaR> Discovery family is meh, they air 3 episodes a day

18:05 <Sour_Sweet> I want pone with audio description. "As the Rara starts to sing her butt magically glows"

18:05 <wobniaR> Flank*

18:06 <maybebrony7> i found a site but they look weird

18:06 <Sour_Sweet> -the*

18:06 <ADragonHoarding> Definitely flank.

18:06 <ADragonHoarding> maybebrony7: do you have netflix?

18:06 <maybebrony7> no

18:07 <maybebrony7> but on that site it's called my little pony tales

18:07 <maybebrony7> strange!

18:07 <wobniaR> That's not g4

18:07 <MarsToSirius> Yeah, that's not G4

18:07 <ADragonHoarding> If you want legal sources, there's Discovery Family itself, and there's also iTunes.

18:07 <maybebrony7> what's G4?

18:07 <ADragonHoarding> G4. Generation Four.

18:07 <maybebrony7> o thank you:)

18:07 <MarsToSirius> Generation 4, i.e. this current generation of MLP

18:07 <wobniaR> Pone has been around since 1980

18:07 <ADragonHoarding> AKA the current iteration of the show. My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

18:08 <wobniaR> Current show is the 4th generation ^

18:08 <maybebrony7> it does look very old!

18:08 <ADragonHoarding> It's specifically /this version/ that people are all agog over.

18:08 <MarsToSirius> Also, if you haven't even watched the show before I would rather you watch it via Netflix instead of paying for the iTunes versions so that you're not dumping money on something you might not like

18:08 <Thelema5> I just realized that it would take an EPIC marathon viewing to watch all of the episodes in a weekend.  There's 43 hours of content, which leaves only 5 hours for sleeping, bathroom breaks, etc

18:08 <wobniaR> Hey there are pre-g4 fans in here

18:08 <wobniaR> Somewhere

18:08 <Sour_Sweet> Ewwwh

18:08 <MarsToSirius> There's a fair few

18:08 <MarsToSirius> They're not the majority though

18:09 * Thelema5 raises his hoof halfway

18:09 <maybebrony7> sound's great Thelema5!:D

18:09 <Sour_Sweet> Pinkie's G3 face ^^

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18:09 <Thelema5> I liked the toys, but only the g1 catroons

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18:09 <wobniaR> My sister watched g1

18:10 <ADragonHoarding> If you only want to see if you like the show, then I have a download site I can recommend. Alternately, try to find them on dailymotion.

18:10 <wobniaR> It was only recently she recognized i watch g4

18:10 <MarsToSirius> My sister had toys from G1 that she passed on to her niece and I assume she caught some of the shows and movies

18:10 <SilverString> yo

18:10 <maybebrony7> i have heard that the g1 is really girly is that true?

18:10 * MarsToSirius waves at SilverString.

18:10 <Thelema5> Not at all.

18:10 <Tirek> Yes and no.

18:10 <Princess-Luna> G1 is...a mixed bag

18:10 <wobniaR> People die in g1

18:10 <Tirek> I have been summoned.

18:10 <MarsToSirius> G1 is a mixture of sugarbowl sweetness and Satan

18:10 <Princess-Luna> it depends on what you might enjoy - it has good and bad qualities

18:10 * SilverString waves wing at MarsToSirius

18:10 <wobniaR> Tirek's our resident g1 fan

18:11 * ADragonHoarding snickers

18:11 <Thelema5> G1 was fine- it was the subsequent versions which were "girly"

18:11 <ADragonHoarding> "Not at all!"

18:11 <MarsToSirius> G3 and G3.5 are what's typically known as the reeeeally girly seasons, since it's basically pure slice-of-life with essentially no conflict whatsoever

18:11 <ADragonHoarding> "Yes and no."

18:11 <ADragonHoarding> Let's be clear.

18:11 <MarsToSirius> iterations, rather, not seasons

18:11 <ADragonHoarding> They're not so much girly, as they are what marketing thinks is girly.

18:11 <Thelema5> I guess it depends on how one defines "girly".

18:11 <Librarian> pink and frilly

18:12 <Librarian> like a cake

18:12 <SilverString> Pinkie pie

18:12 <Tirek> Various episodes are, indeed, girly, but there are also quite a few that I'd say aren't safe for little girls.

18:12 * Thelema5 is often pink and frilly

18:12 <maybebrony7> really

18:12 <Tirek> The pilot episode of G1 is probably one of the most terrifying pony episodes.

18:12 <Thelema5> It's horrifying.

18:12 <Tirek> It has me in it.

18:12 <maybebrony7> should i watch it?

18:13 <Princess-Luna> Try G4 first

18:13 <Tirek> That's up to you.

18:13 <Tirek> G4 is the superior generation.

18:13 <maybebrony7> shouldint i start at the beggining?

18:13 <Librarian> yes

18:13 <wobniaR> The more popular one for sure

18:13 <MarsToSirius> No, because G4 is so vastly different from the other generations that it doesn't matter

18:13 <Tirek> Yeah.

18:13 <MarsToSirius> NOTHING from any previous generation carries over,e xcept for names

18:13 <Thelema5> The beginning of Friendship is magic.

18:13 <maybebrony7> so it's like a whole different show?

18:13 <Thelema5> And spike.

18:13 <Tirek> Each generation is a separate continuity.

18:13 <ADragonHoarding> Yes.

18:13 <wobniaR> Rainbows darling rainbows

18:14 <ADragonHoarding> There may be shared names, but the ponies are definitely not the same.

18:14 <Tirek> Rainbow Dash, for instance, does NOT love polishing her nails.

18:14 <MarsToSirius> G4 has a /few/ recurring characters from G1, and some names are shared, but they're completely seperate entities

18:14 <ADragonHoarding> Start with Friendship is Magic.

18:14 <Princess-Luna> ^

18:14 <Princess-Luna> Get a taste for the good first

18:14 <maybebrony7> ive heard that applejack is in g1 too

18:14 * wobniaR polishes Tirek's nails black

18:14 <Tirek> Applejack is in 3 generations.

18:14 <ADragonHoarding> Yes, there is a pony named Applejack in G1.

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18:14 <Princess-Luna> Applejack is just a name used

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18:14 <Princess-Luna> not the same pony

18:14 <Tirek> Same with spike.

18:14 <ADragonHoarding> She is not the same as the G4 Applejack.

18:14 <maybebrony7> is it the same one?

18:14 <Tirek> No.

18:14 <ADragonHoarding> No.

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18:15 <SilverString> Surprise?

18:15 <wobniaR> They're all silly ponies

18:15 <Librarian> as a general rule, nothing of previous generation is carried to g 4

18:15 <maybebrony7> that's true:D

18:15 <maybebrony7> witch one is better?

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18:15 <SilverString> but Surprise..

18:15 <Tirek> Surprise is in G4.

18:15 <wobniaR> By the way the nick Applejack is public for everyone to use now

18:16 <Tirek> She's a Wonderbolt!

18:16 <maybebrony7> what's a Wonderbolt?

18:16 <Tirek> Or something.

18:16 <ADragonHoarding> Well. It's a pegasus with the right color combination.

18:16 <ADragonHoarding> I don't think she's ever named, though.

18:16 <Librarian> its a pegasus acrobatic team

18:16 <Librarian> the wonderbolts

18:16 <maybebrony7> o okay

18:16 <ADragonHoarding> Thing the Blue Angels, only with flying ponies.

18:16 <Tirek> Nah, unless you count the Equestria guidebook.

18:16 <Princess-Luna> do you have access to netflix, maybebrony7?

18:16 <maybebrony7> no i dont....):

18:16 <Tirek> The Equestria guidebook calls her Surprise.

18:17 <ADragonHoarding> (asked that already cough cough)

18:17 <wobniaR> Go watch the season 1 pilot dude so you at least get an idea what it's like

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18:17 <maybebrony7> well it doesent mattr

18:17 <Princess-Luna> He won't do it illegally.

18:17 <maybebrony7> no i wont

18:17 <Princess-Luna> so it seems that he can't watch any pony. XD

18:17 <ADragonHoarding> maybebrony7: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiT97i3psDJAhUCyWMKHRvVDTAQtwIIIDAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymotion.com%2Fvideo%2Fxsky32_my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-season-1-episode-1-the-mare-in-the-moon-captioned_shortfilms&usg=AFQjCNFYZPWRZvonIlE8BbcrLHkjEbDhAw&sig2=z05ikC_4APfmZ1_2jbDiRw

18:17 <maybebrony7> and i'm a she bdw

18:17 <ADragonHoarding> oh god

18:17 <wobniaR> Plss

18:17 <ADragonHoarding> what is that

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18:17 <Princess-Luna> lol

18:17 <Princess-Luna> ADragonHoarding, you derp'd

18:17 <maybebrony7> it's okay

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18:17 <ADragonHoarding> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsky32_my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-season-1-episode-1-the-mare-in-the-moon-captioned_shortfilms

18:18 <ADragonHoarding> use that instead

18:18 * wobniaR tempts maybebrony7 to committ unlegal acts

18:18 <Princess-Luna> Adra: They won't use online illegal sources

18:18 <wobniaR> Do your math homework, toss a pie at Princess-Luna's face, watch pone on dailymotion

18:18 <ADragonHoarding> Yes, and?

18:18 <Princess-Luna> That's sorta the same thing there

18:18 <ADragonHoarding> I am aware.

18:18 <ADragonHoarding> I have chosen to provide the link anyway.

18:19 <maybebrony7> that isint legal at all!

18:19 <MarsToSirius> You're... um... kinda running out of options then

18:19 <maybebrony7> it doesent look like it anyway

18:19 <ADragonHoarding> Do you have your own money?

18:19 <FN_away> Watch a show online, buy merchandise from Hasbro

18:19 <maybebrony7> well i just go to my frend who is a HUGE fan

18:19 <FN_away> That should compensate

18:19 <maybebrony7> she has all the dvd

18:19 <ADragonHoarding> Well there you go then.

18:20 <FN_away> Aren't you watching it for free in that case too?

18:20 <maybebrony7> thanks for all your help:)

18:20 <FN_away> I don't see the difference honestly

18:20 <maybebrony7> no she has buy it legally

18:20 <ADragonHoarding> FN_away: it's a matter of legality. Not ethics.

18:20 <MarsToSirius> It's about ethics in pony viewership.

18:20 <ADragonHoarding> The two are not necessarily the same thing.

18:21 <MDP> i just order the  season dvd when they become available, until then i just watch it online

18:21 <FN_away> LOL MarsToSirius

18:22 <Thelema5> The license for DVD ownership allows for private home screenings, I believe

18:22 <FN_away> I see no wrong with watching series online to evaluate it and then paying those that you found worthy of support

18:22 <maybebrony7> well i got to go so bye:)

18:22 <FN_away> Bye

18:22 <Thelema5> Bye!

18:22 <SilverString> bye

18:22 <ADragonHoarding> cya!

18:22 <maybebrony7> nice talking to ya

18:22 <ADragonHoarding> May you enjoy the show.

18:22 <maybebrony7> thanks

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18:23 <CocoPommel> SilverString um if I lol'd at you yesterday I didn't mean to I thought you were joking

18:23 * wobniaR disregards the constabulary, acquires pony!

18:23 <SilverString> it is over

18:23 <CocoPommel> Ok

18:23 <SilverString> it is yesterday

18:24 <Tirek> Ugh, I should be sleeping.

18:24 <Tirek> Can't sleep.

18:24 <MarsToSirius> Fool witches, get friendship.

18:24 <Tirek> All hail Lord Smooze!

18:25 <CocoPommel> Sounds like a messy kingdom to me

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18:27 * MarsToSirius np: LOGIC - Soul Food

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18:27 <SilverString> Hello

18:27 <MarsToSirius> olleH

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18:27 <Thelema5> Maybebrony7 didn't ever mention why he was so keen to join a fandom for a show he's never watched...

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18:28 <Thelema5> My guess is that he's trying to get an "in" with the girl he mentioned.

18:28 <wobniaR> Sounds about right

18:28 <Thelema5> That's a first.

18:28 <MarsToSirius> Then why wouldn't he be like "hey, can I watch this show with you?"

18:28 <SilverString> Tail makes men do things..depends on the man

18:28 <Thelema5> Maybe he wanted to learn as much as he could to impress her.

18:29 <MarsToSirius> Why would he root around for an obscure chatroom?

18:29 <MarsToSirius> I guess...

18:29 <wobniaR> Cause you know, chicks dig guys who watch MLP

18:29 <Thelema5> Truf

18:29 <Thelema5> XD

18:29 <MarsToSirius> New-age atheist bronies with fedoras pull in all the girls

18:29 * wobniaR is a #bronie4lyf m'lady

18:29 <SilverString> Then I'm out

18:30 <wobniaR> Also that person clarified she was a she

18:30 <wobniaR> : [13:17] (maybebrony7) and i'm a she bdw

18:30 <MarsToSirius> ah

18:30 <Thelema5> Doesn't really change much.

18:30 <MarsToSirius> nah

18:31 <Princess-Luna> Chicks dig chicks who dig mares.

18:32 <Thelema5> Although, judging by her general approach and language, I'm guessing she's young, probably in middle school... so she's probably just trying to fit in

18:32 <Thelema5> Poor kid.  I hope she gets what she's after.

18:32 <wobniaR> Shouldn't force herself to like something she doesn't

18:32 * SilverString starts nomming a giant cookie

18:32 <wobniaR> That's the quickest way to not like something

18:33 <Princess-Luna> Well she doesn't know if she doesn't like it.

18:33 * wobniaR slaps the cookie out of SilverString's grip and replaces it with oatmeal cinnamon raisin

18:33 <Princess-Luna> she just wants to check it out

18:33 <wobniaR> Tru

18:33 <wobniaR> We'll see

18:33 <Thelema5> That's my relationship with seitan, wobniaR

18:33 <SilverString> It was a flax seed cookie...

18:34 <wobniaR> Well now it's oatmeal raisin

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18:34 * Librarian slaps cookie again and switcs it with pizza

18:34 <Librarian> now its pizza

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18:34 <Thelema5> Check out the upgrades, dang!

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18:34 * Thelema5 waits to see what's next

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18:34 * SilverString nods at Librarian

18:35 <Schism|Nocturne> Hum...

18:35 * Cepheid goes back to work on game.

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18:36 <Cepheid> This floor is going to be impossible to map out.

18:36 * SilverString noms on pizza

18:36 <Thelema5> http://time.com/4134976/pentagon-combat-women/ I don't know how to feel about this

18:36 <Schism> Eh, I fail to see a problem.  So long's they're qualified and they want to work on the frontlines, what's the issue?

18:37 <Thelema5> One the one hoof, yay!  On the other, do we really want more soldiers on the frontlines?

18:37 <Princess-Luna> Equality for all!

18:37 <Librarian> yay

18:37 <Schism> MORE soldiers, no, but those who are best prepared for the position as opposed to needlessly limiting options?  Absolutely.

18:37 * SilverString ends up pasting the pizza on face

18:37 * Kalastraer tacklehugs Librarian

18:38 <Librarian> ahh!

18:38 <Thelema5> The problem isn't gender based, it's military industrial complex based.  It doubles the available standing army the US could potentially draw upon in dire times

18:38 * Librarian rolls around

18:38 * Kalastraer tacklehugs Thelema5

18:38 * ADragonHoarding growls at link for having a video/audio ad.

18:38 <Thelema5> What's next, lowering the age of enlistment to 14?

18:39 * Thelema5 Oopfs

18:39 * Thelema5 huggles Kalastraer

18:39 <Kalastraer> hats up?

18:40 <Thelema5> About to head into another long, boring, pointless meeting

18:41 <Cepheid> Oh, right.  Max level is 80.  So everyone is gaining experience again.  Huzzah.

18:41 <Librarian> huzzah!

18:42 <SilverString> Hazzuh

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18:44 <Thelema5> Hello, bro1dash

18:45 <Cepheid> Huzzah, a teleport maze with not enough map icons to make traversing it viable.

18:46 * Schism hands Cepheid a piece of graph paper.

18:46 <Cepheid> At this point that seems more reliable, yes.

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18:47 * Cepheid prints up a 30x35 grid.

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18:47 <Schism> Incompetech are useful in many a way, ne?

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18:48 <Cepheid> Almost makes you wonder if it was intended for this stratum.

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18:49 <Cepheid> Also sparked an idea for me, with my Etrian Odyssey clone.  "Paper Map Mode."  Where instead of a digitally provided map, you have to use actual pen and paper instead.

18:49 <Schism> Possibly with a graph paper layout included alongside the game?

18:50 <Cepheid> Sure, why not?

18:52 <Cepheid> Speaking of that game, I need to make a few 3D models.

18:52 <Cepheid> Simple ones, for implementation purposes.

18:52 * Schism offers Cepheid a 3D model of a sphere, to represent the FOE.

18:52 <Cepheid> Heh.

18:53 <Cepheid> In this case, it's a tileset I need to model.

18:55 * Electron counts days till the MLP Movie

18:56 <Schism> !movie

18:56 <Schism> Aw, not there yet.

18:56 <Schism> !s5

18:56 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 1d:20h:33m:33s

18:56 * Schism waves a hoof. "Liiiiies!"

18:56 <Electron> DerpyBot is neglected. :<

18:56 <Scuta> the lost episode O.o

18:58 <Electron> "The story centers on Twilight Sparkle, Applejack, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Fluttershy and Raritye."

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18:58 <Electron> > Raritye

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18:59 <wobniaR> DerpyBot is not neglected, she is perfect the way she is

18:59 <wobniaR> !derp

18:59 <DerpyBot> http://mlfw.info/f/345

19:00 <Cepheid> Right then, time to duplicate the map I hav.

19:01 <Electron> Whatever you say, wobniaR.

19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony: Lyra and Bon Bon and the Mares from S.M.I.L.E. - New Book Appears!  [ http://tinyurl.com/jps37b8 ]

19:02 <wobniaR> Another book already huh

19:02 <Schism> Heh, that's a cute image.

19:02 <wobniaR> Inb4 a derpy book

19:04 <ADragonHoarding> the book of derp!

19:05 <wobniaR> Muffins and the case of the missing muffin box

19:05 <wobniaR> It will be a thriller for the century

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19:09 <Sour_Sweet> So if friendship is magic, what is the very best friendship? ;-)

19:09 <Schism> What is best in friendship?  To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you--er, wait...

19:10 <ADragonHoarding> Love.

19:10 <Princess-Luna> So now we know who BonBon works for. xD

19:10 <Princess-Luna> that's great

19:10 <ADragonHoarding> We do?

19:10 <ADragonHoarding> Oh, wait, right.

19:10 <Princess-Luna> :P

19:11 <ADragonHoarding> Agent Sweetie Drops.

19:11 <Electron> But friendship is impossible without any love.

19:13 * wobniaR blends into the background as to not attract any attention

19:14 <Princess-Luna> When she did that in slice of life, I immediately heard in my mind the crowd blending sound from Assassins creed

19:14 <Princess-Luna> it just fit. xD

19:14 <fyrepony> http://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-warhammer-campaign-interview/

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19:15 <Sour_Sweet> Having seen how amusing it is how Twili got her wings I'd really like to see a Cadance with her new horn flashback.

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19:15 * wobniaR applies an unsuspicious trenchcoat and trilby to Princess-Luna

19:16 <wobniaR> Now you can blend in too

19:16 * Schism peers at wobniaR. "The Art of the Thief really is a fun little game by Yahtzee."

19:17 <Cepheid> This is... insane.

19:17 <Cepheid> I'm up to 13 teleport destinations.

19:17 <Cepheid> Unique ones.

19:17 <Schism> I hate teleport mazes too, but that seems particularly painful.

19:17 <Cepheid> That doesn't include the various teleporters that go back to mapped spots.

19:17 <Schism> Maybe if you put that on a corkboard and illustrated the teleports with coloured string?

19:17 <Scuta> Sour_Sweet i can already imagine Cadance first night with a horn and she uses it as a reading light and then it wont turn off and it keeps her awake :>

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19:22 <Cepheid> Schism: I'm using a drawn map.  For teleporters, I mark the cell in the corner with an X, and write down the number it teleports to.  For the destinations, I mark with a circle, and the number of the first teleporter that I find that goes to it.

19:22 <Schism> Ah.

19:22 <Schism> That's sensible enough.

19:23 <wobniaR> Full alicorn backstories for season 6 opener please

19:24 <wobniaR> Flashback format for all four princesses, so dictator horse can learn

19:24 <Schism> I want more information on Starswirl the Bearded.

19:24 <Cepheid> Hello, Dinolich.  First time I've seen you.

19:24 <wobniaR> Starswirl will never appear, he's just a thing to use that doesn't need explaining

19:25 <Schism> The character equivalent of a MacGuffin?  Ehh, maybe.

19:25 <wobniaR> Well he did appear in rainbow rocks as a storybook flashback

19:25 <wobniaR> That's the closest

19:25 <Schism> Ehh, still doesn't quite fit.  Ah well.

19:25 <Schism> "Now that Twilight and crew have learned how to use a time machine..." No, no no no no.  Bad idea.

19:28 <Princess-Luna> <wobniaR> Starswirl will never appear, he's just a thing to use that doesn't need explaining - I reckon he'll be a movie appearance

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19:28 <Princess-Luna> That's the one platform you can really go to town with his idea as a characer

19:28 <Unixkitty> wobniaR and Schism confirmed nerds

19:28 <Schism> That actually makes a TON of sense.

19:29 <Unixkitty> Just throwing that out there

19:29 * Unixkitty runs

19:29 <Schism> Hey, don't pigeonhole me, Unixkitty.  I'm also a geek.

19:29 <Unixkitty> "Pigeonhole"? What in the world is that supposed to mean

19:30 <Unixkitty> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjSQUx-k1co

19:30 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

19:30 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about [Electronic] - Pegboard Nerds - New Style [Monstercat Release]

19:30 <Schism> To pigeonhole someone is to throw them into a neat little slot in one's perception.

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19:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Sunset Shimmer Simulator [ http://tinyurl.com/nqls9qx ]

19:31 <Schism> In mail sorting rooms, the various places for mail to be placed were often called 'pigeonholes', because they were more or less the right size for the minute birds to roost.

19:31 <El> Whoops.

19:31 * Schism boops the El.

19:31 <El> Oi!

19:31 * Unixkitty also boops the El

19:31 <El> Gah! D:

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19:31 * El hides his nose and rubs it

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19:32 <wobniaR> Press f to pay respects

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19:33 * El applies a big square plaster to his nose

19:33 <El> You boopers!

19:33 * Unixkitty presses f and El's nose gets booped somehow

19:33 * Cepheid runs into a Dinolich by mistake. AAAHHHH!!!

19:34 * El rolls his eyes

19:34 <Unixkitty> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGEkP7Nru-I

19:34 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

19:34 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Ivan Carsten - Bazooka Girl [HD] [320 Kbps]

19:34 <CleverDerpy> good afternoon~

19:35 <El> Hello, CleverDerpy. Please, don't boop me. :<

19:35 * Schism offers CleverDerpy a cutting from his own muffin tree, this one producing lemon muffins.

19:36 <CleverDerpy> oh my, thank you~

19:36 <Schism> Cranberry lemon muffins, in fact.

19:36 * Sour_Sweet jumps on El and boops from above.

19:36 <Sour_Sweet> Ninja boops best boops

19:36 <CleverDerpy> this'll look great from my old oak tree

19:36 * El falls on the ground and eeps

19:37 * CleverDerpy licks Schism's cheek and giggles

19:37 <CleverDerpy> thanks again, imma go hang it now

19:37 * Schism blinks. "Um." He buzzes off, and hats on Unixkitty, in chibiling form.

19:37 * El flails his four hooves while lying on the ground

19:38 * Unixkitty uses a temporal shift to immediately counter-hat on Schism's head instead. Darn those magic users!

19:38 <CleverDerpy> you never got a derpykiss before, have you?

19:38 <El> This room is full of boopers, I swear! >:|

19:38 * Schism is squished. Is a chibiling!

19:38 <wobniaR> RP intensifies

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19:38 <Schism> !link chibiling

19:38 <DerpyBot> Twilight says she doesn't have anything in the library about that

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19:39 <Schism> Okay, okay, let's move on, I suppose.

19:39 * Unixkitty doesn't really know what a chibiling is supposed to be

19:39 <CleverDerpy> I love you guys

19:39 * CleverDerpy gives everyone a hug

19:39 <Cepheid> #20...

19:40 * El is hugged while lying on the ground apparently

19:40 <Unixkitty> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgVWOCwKJcM

19:40 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

19:40 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MDK ft. Nick Sadler - Phoenix [Free Download]

19:41 <Schism> Unixkitty: A tiny little changeling, with big eyes.  Chibi + Changeling.

19:41 <Unixkitty> How tiny?

19:42 <Cepheid> Most of the map is covered thus far, but geeze.  This place is nuts.

19:42 <Tirek> Small as your thumb and twice as dumb.

19:42 <Tirek> :v

19:42 <Schism> Enough to hat upon someone's head.

19:42 <CleverDerpy> small enough to be hurt by a kitteh, it seems

19:42 * Schism looks at Tirek, "Oh, you're back."

19:42 <Tirek> Yup.

19:42 <Tirek> I couldn't sleep.

19:42 <Tirek> So I've been up for the past three hours.

19:42 <Tirek> Tonight's going to suck.

19:43 <CleverDerpy> Tirek, I hope you get well soon

19:43 <CleverDerpy> it's no fun having insomnia

19:43 <Cepheid> ... Did... Did that FOE just kill the enemy I was fighting?

19:43 <Schism> Tirek: Please tell me that you at least recognize this pose.  http://imgur.com/IwmiqHI

19:43 <Tirek> It's not necessarily insomnia this time.

19:44 <Tirek> 'Fraid not.

19:44 <Schism> Bah!

19:44 <Tirek> I'm an uncultured swine, Schism.

19:44 <CleverDerpy> it looks like the beatles

19:44 * Schism flailyhooves, such as it were. "Thank you, CleverDerpy."

19:44 <CleverDerpy> yay~

19:44 <Tirek> I've only listened to the Beatles in passing.

19:44 * CleverDerpy feels proud to know her musical history~

19:44 <Tirek> Much like most music, really.

19:45 <Schism> The Beatles' "Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band".

19:45 <Tirek> I only collect my essoteric and possibly hipster music and listen to that regularly.

19:45 <wobniaR> You have a whole archive of music you've made Tirek

19:45 <Tirek> That too.

19:46 <Tirek> But I don't listen to my music very often, because it's garbage.

19:46 <CleverDerpy> what's funny is those words were used in starfox as a character name, and a villain gang in my life as a teenage robot

19:46 <Tirek> Anyway, reason I couldn't sleep is probably because I'm feeling intense soreness.

19:46 <wobniaR> The beatles are old anyway

19:46 <wobniaR> There's kooler music out these days

19:46 <Unixkitty> I feel like arguing, does anyone have anything to argue about?

19:46 <wobniaR> Yes ur a nerd Unixkitty

19:46 <Schism> Tirek: Hope you feel better soon.

19:46 <Tirek> I won't.

19:46 <Unixkitty> wobniaR: pls

19:47 <wobniaR> Fite me 1c1 m8

19:47 <Unixkitty> There is nothing to argue :P

19:47 <wobniaR> Tru

19:47 <Tirek> A is objectively better than B, Unixkitty.

19:47 * Unixkitty headtilts to wobniaR nonetheless

19:47 <Unixkitty> Why is that, Tirek?

19:47 <CleverDerpy> Unixkitty, it's not worth fighting over, be merry~

19:47 <Tirek> Because A is a vowel, and the sound you associate with screaming. And everyone loves to scream.

19:48 <Tirek> Especially for Ice Cream.

19:48 <Tirek> Which I just had a hearty amount of.

19:48 <wobniaR> I scream for ice cream

19:48 <CleverDerpy> I see what you did there

19:48 <Unixkitty> Um... I actually agree with you, Tirek

19:48 * Unixkitty flails

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19:49 <Tirek> I am the winner. It is me.

19:49 <Unixkitty> Yes yes :P

19:49 <Schism> Y is a vowel.  Discuss.

19:49 <Unixkitty> Schism is a nerd, discuss

19:49 <wobniaR> Yes

19:49 <Tirek> We're all nerds. End of discussion.

19:49 <Schism> Hrmf, not JUST a nerd.

19:49 <DataByte> Uber Nerd!

19:49 <Schism> For example, Tirek's a nerd and a jerk too.

19:49 <Unixkitty> Haha

19:49 <Tirek> No argument here.

19:49 <Unixkitty> Tirek is not a jerk

19:50 <Tirek> Go back to your box.

19:50 <DataByte> hahahah

19:50 <Unixkitty> If you can't understand some of his jokes, that's not his problem

19:50 <Tirek> I agree there.

19:50 <Schism> Hey, absolute agreement there.

19:50 <wobniaR> Über

19:50 <Unixkitty> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP_1ld-t4u0

19:50 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

19:50 <CleverDerpy> yay~

19:50 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MDK - Rise [Free Download]

19:51 <Tirek> If I offend you, it's time to put on your big boy pants and take it with a grain of salt.

19:51 <Cepheid> Though examination of the map pattern, I can conclude that the exit teleporter is at... 18/8.

19:51 <Tirek> Or big girl pants.

19:51 <Tirek> Or whatever it is you care to wear.

19:51 <Schism> Hey, Tirek, if your jokes are all mean, and you lift, and you enjoy smoked meats, does that makes you a jerky jerk-joke jock?

19:51 *** Mongoose is now known as Mongoosie|Shower

19:51 * Unixkitty puts big girl pants on Tirek!

19:51 <Tirek> Yes.

19:51 <Tirek> And these colors match my eyeliner.

19:51 <Unixkitty> What are "big girl" pants anyway?

19:52 <Tirek> The pants a woman wears when she's in charge of the family, probably.

19:52 <Schism> I'm not even going to think of touching that question.

19:52 <Tirek> I provided an innocent explanation, so now you don't have to think about it.

19:52 <wobniaR> Jeans obviously, all people in charge wear jeans

19:52 <Unixkitty> That makes no sense, but I laughed nonetheless

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19:53 <Tirek> Glad to know I'm funny occasionally.

19:53 <Tirek> I didn't even make a terrible pun this time.

19:53 <Unixkitty> :P

19:54 <Schism> Paranomasiacs are terrible persons.  I should know, being one myself.

19:54 <ADragonHoarding> wat

19:54 <ADragonHoarding> oh

19:54 <Tirek> I had to look that up.

19:54 <Unixkitty> !mail LunaticHell Schism

19:54 <DerpyBot> Thank you for using the.. Uhm..ah..what did you want me to do again? 6_9

19:54 <DerpyBot> I just don't know what went wroooong!

19:54 <Unixkitty> !mail LunaticHell Schism

19:55 <DerpyBot> Thank you for using the Derpy Mail Service 6_9

19:55 <Unixkitty> !missile DerpyBot

19:55 <Unixkitty> Fail?

19:55 <Schism> Heehee.  I only know the term due to reading some of Callahan's.

19:55 <Princess-Luna> !missile Unixkitty

19:55 * DerpyBot picks up Tirek and aims carefully for Unixkitty

19:55 * DerpyBot throws Tirek towards Unixkitty with all her might

19:55 *** Unixkitty was kicked by DerpyBot (Incoming!)

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19:55 <Princess-Luna> Oh well then

19:55 <Unixkitty> What if I missed a few log lines!?

19:55 <ADragonHoarding> Derpy won't missile herself, it seems.

19:55 <ADragonHoarding> You didn't.

19:55 <Princess-Luna> x3

19:56 <Schism> Kinda hard to - unless you throw the missile straight up.

19:56 <Unixkitty> Only because I saw it coming!

19:56 <Princess-Luna> We'd have given you the lines missed

19:56 <Sour_Sweet> You only missed all the fun :P

19:56 <Unixkitty> And I'm sure it would have been most exciting trying to fit them into a running daemon's log file

19:56 <ADragonHoarding> it's not like the !log s are pristine.

19:56 <Princess-Luna> x3

19:56 <ADragonHoarding> there's netsplits, after all.

19:56 <Unixkitty> !missile ADragonHoarding

19:56 * DerpyBot picks up Tirek and aims carefully for ADragonHoarding

19:56 * DerpyBot throws Tirek towards ADragonHoarding with all her might

19:57 *** ADragonHoarding was kicked by DerpyBot (Incoming!)

19:57 <wobniaR> Pls

19:57 <Unixkitty> Tirek confirmed best missile

19:57 <Princess-Luna> lol

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19:57 <El> What you are doing, guys?

19:57 <Schism> That sounds about right.

19:57 <wobniaR> Twice in a row geez

19:57 <fyrepony> its full muffin war?

19:57 <Princess-Luna> We're having fun

19:57 <ADragonHoarding> !moon Princess-Luna

19:57 <DerpyBot> Grab my tail, Princess-Luna!

19:57 <Unixkitty> Well he did that once, I thought I would once too :P

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19:57 <Schism> I mean, /I/ certainly wouldn't want a centaur leveled at me.

19:58 * Unixkitty flailypaws for no particular reason

19:58 <Tirek> I've had a nice bowl of magic this morning for breakfast too

19:58 <wobniaR> Derpy also won't kick another person in here, and i don't think she targets johnsey either

19:58 <Tirek> So, you know, I'm probably pretty big too.

19:58 <Tirek> No, wait, nevermind, I had lucky charms instead.

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19:58 <Tirek> Magic, Magically delicious. Same thing.

19:58 <fyrepony> http://www.equestriadaily.com/2015/12/the-brony-fandom-will-never-die-why.html

19:58 <wobniaR> Everyone else is fair game

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19:58 <Schism> And tragically malicious, in your hands.

19:58 <Tirek> Certainly.

19:58 <Gigabit> Well since johnsey made Derpy..I don't think he would let himself be kicked :p

19:59 <Unixkitty> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WZJIlQ6ZdZo/Vl4WmSC5wFI/AAAAAAACdH8/PqdDXbS74Xw/s640/ANOTHER%2BWING.png

19:59 <Unixkitty> 10/10

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19:59 <Tirek> She needs more wings.

19:59 <Unixkitty> !missile johnsey

19:59 * DerpyBot picks up Unixkitty and aims carefully for the moon

19:59 * DerpyBot throws Unixkitty towards the moon with all her might

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19:59 <wobniaR> Rekt

19:59 <ADragonHoarding> you missed /everything/ Unixkitty .

19:59 <Unixkitty> Haha clever

19:59 <Tirek> She is become Aerodynamics! Soarer of skies!

20:00 <Sour_Sweet> Hehe

20:00 * El hums: "You're my heart, you're my soul! That's the only thing I really know."

20:00 <ADragonHoarding> a civilization rose and fell in your absence.

20:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Cups: Magical New Card Combos in MLP: CCG High Magic [ http://tinyurl.com/z36bfgx ]

20:00 <Tirek> Yeah, quickest game of Civ 5 I've ever played.

20:00 <Tirek> I suck at the game so much.

20:00 <Unixkitty> :P

20:01 <Unixkitty> I am probably much worse, Tirek

20:01 <FN> Damn you El, now I need to listen to the song!

20:01 <Tirek> Well, it'd help if I actually owned the game :v

20:01 <FN> I can not not do it, because it would create a temporal pair-o-socks!!!

20:01 <ADragonHoarding> Doma iesu iesu...

20:01 <Tirek> I hope I don't have another rough work day today.

20:01 <Tirek> Yesterday sucked.

20:01 <ADragonHoarding> overloaded?

20:02 <Tirek> Yep.

20:02 <FN> I want to get leg prosthetics

20:02 <Tirek> But besides that, I just had an awful experience doing my task.

20:02 * El pats FN

20:02 <FN> My biologial rear tentacles with bones seem to be broken

20:02 <ADragonHoarding> Did you break your ankle?

20:02 <Tirek> No

20:02 <FN> No, I have flat feet type 3

20:02 <Unixkitty> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jt10MW1mFU

20:03 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

20:03 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MDK - Frostbite [Free Download]

20:03 <Tirek> Oh, wait.

20:03 <Tirek> In any case.

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20:03 <ADragonHoarding> Case any in.

20:03 <FN> In this case you have muscles placed in such a way that they routinely overextend

20:03 <Tirek> I was palletizing boxes, one of the rated functions (and it's not usually so bad, really. )

20:03 *** Reia is now known as Pony_62673

20:04 <Tirek> But I was assigned to a specific location with another person who was absolutely AWFUL at the job. Missing counts, not actually scanning boxes to pallets, building them poorly.

20:04 <FN> So you have them either cramped because they are used too much or cramped because you bent your limb too far and they contracted too strongly and can't go back

20:04 <Tirek> So, most of the time I was dealing with his mistakes.

20:04 <FN> Ah that is aggravating indeed

20:05 <FN> My stepdad is like that

20:05 <ADragonHoarding> Ah. It's always fun fixing someone else's... er...

20:05 <Tirek> I had to rebuild four pallets, recount six pallets, and overall.

20:05 <ADragonHoarding> fails.

20:05 <FN> Ever time someone ends up re-doing his attempted job

20:05 <Tirek> I was under rate.

20:05 <Tirek> Again.

20:05 <Cepheid> Finally!

20:05 <FN> Like he even manages to assemble ikea wrong!

20:05 <FN> That's like talent, but inverse

20:05 <Tirek> Seems every time I do that specific task, things just conspire against me.

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20:06 <Tirek> If that trend continues, I'll likely be fired for production.

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20:06 <ADragonHoarding> Seems like the rating should take into account the necessity of recounting or rebuilding.

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20:06 <Tirek> Here's another idea - actually train your employees.

20:06 <FN> What? Tirek it's the other guy that does the stupid should lose the job

20:06 <ADragonHoarding> And if you have to rebuild a pallet, that should count towards your rate and be taken off the other guys.

20:07 <ADragonHoarding> Underperforming should be grounds for investigation only.

20:07 <ADragonHoarding> Never for actual termination.

20:07 <Tirek> Well, I can't be fired yet.

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20:07 <Sour_Sweet> Genna Bain liked MLP. I wasn't aware

20:07 * Cepheid explores a bit of B30F. Suddenly a FOE spawns nearby. "Nope nope nope." *Ariadne Thread*

20:08 <ADragonHoarding> FallOut Equestria spawned?

20:08 <Tirek> They give write-ups. I think up to 5. 6th issue is termination.

20:08 <Tirek> No.

20:08 <Cepheid> FOEs are super enemies.

20:08 <Cepheid> That you can see on the map.

20:08 <FN> Tirek, why don't you let that guy fail his palettes and let him have the consequences???

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20:08 <Tirek> Because they collapsed when -I- was dealing with them.

20:09 <ADragonHoarding> Well, you certainly shouldn't receive a write-up for having to fix someone else's mistake.

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20:09 <FN> Like Napoleon said: "never correct enemies in their mistakes"

20:09 <Tirek> Rate's the important thing. Regardless of what's hindering you.

20:09 <Tirek> And

20:09 <Tirek> This guy was actually bad enough at the job that it was hindering me regardless of whether I fixed his issues or not.

20:09 <FN> Welp that is plain framing then

20:10 <Tirek> Infact, if I -didn't- fix them, my rate would have been significantly worse.

20:10 <Tirek> Basically, in the area I was working, there were 6 pallets, each with a different destination.

20:10 <Cepheid> Finally, the Great Dragon has shown up.

20:11 <Tirek> But only three destinations were fairly busy.

20:11 <Tirek> If the errors weren't corrected quickly enough, then we wouldn't be able to start new pallets for those specific destinations, which would hurt our rates.

20:11 <ADragonHoarding> Which just means the system is flaweed.

20:12 <FN> Cepheid, that sounds like some innuendo XD

20:12 <ADragonHoarding> Rate shouldn't be the be-all end-all.

20:12 <Tirek> Well it is.

20:12 <ADragonHoarding> That leads to people half-assing the job.

20:12 <ADragonHoarding> I'm sure it is, I'm just pointing out that it's a short-sighted system.

20:12 *** Thelema5|away is now known as Thelema5

20:12 <Tirek> The rate isn't actually that bad.

20:12 <wobniaR> That's how amazon works

20:12 <Tirek> It's just low enough that you can take your time.

20:13 <ADragonHoarding> Yes, and I have issues with how amazon works.

20:13 <ADragonHoarding> I think they're straight nuts.

20:13 <Gigabit> You work for amazon?

20:13 <Tirek> But if things get held up, then you're in for a bad time.

20:13 <ADragonHoarding> No.

20:13 <Tirek> Yeah, an Amazon distribution center.

20:13 <ADragonHoarding> Tirek does.

20:13 <rela> amazon is the best

20:13 <Gigabit> Sorry, should have directed my question better.

20:13 <Tirek> Not really.

20:13 <Gigabit> Thata who I meant it for.

20:13 <FN> Yaaay my lockpics arrived

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20:13 <Thelema5> I've worked in pick and pack operations, and loading operations.  The rate is all that matters at all of them, it's not limited to amazon.

20:14 <Gigabit> I heard amazon was terrible to work for. But I love shopping from them.

20:14 <FN> Pick all the looocks!

20:14 <ADragonHoarding> Yes, and I'm holding to the stance that it's bad system.

20:14 <ADragonHoarding> Regardless of who uses it.

20:14 <rela> i buy almost everything at amazon

20:14 <FN> I may get a part time job as a locksmith

20:14 <FN> It is a fun job

20:14 <Tirek> Aside from other employees being completely incompetent, working at the distribution center is not that bad.

20:14 <ADragonHoarding> That system is how fragile boxes get smashed around.

20:15 <Tirek> Oh yeah.

20:15 <Thelema5> This is driven by consumer demand, though.  The reality is that it's logistically nearly impossible to offer next day shipping.

20:15 <Tirek> Things break a lot at Amazon!

20:15 <Thelema5> But it has to get done.

20:15 <ADragonHoarding> Yeah. I never order next-day shipping.

20:15 <ADragonHoarding> Screw that noise.

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20:15 <wobniaR> Yeah the times i tried next day it arrived in two

20:16 <wobniaR> So i'm probably better off sticking with two day

20:16 <FN> Blegh

20:16 <FN> The lockpicks have rough edges

20:16 <Tirek> Anyway, the job itself is manageable most of the time, it's just I've been very unlucky with the circumstances handed to me when I end up doing that one specific job.

20:16 <FN> That's quite a lot of sandpaper-ing

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20:16 <Tirek> I still prefer loading trucks.

20:16 <Gigabit> I love the 2 day shipping. But really its more like 3 day if you don't get the order in quick enough

20:17 <Tirek> I'm fast, I'm furious, and I get trucks sent out by lunch.

20:17 <Tirek> Or else.

20:17 <Tirek> :v

20:17 <wobniaR> You da bes Tirek

20:17 <Gigabit> Tirek confirmed for street racer

20:17 <Unixkitty> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxPFyu5AGng

20:17 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

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20:17 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MDK & Neowing - Boss Rush [Free Download]

20:17 <Tirek> Well, I'm usually always furious.

20:17 * wobniaR buries Unixkitty under a giant pile of cardboard boxes

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20:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +ao Fall Fall

20:17 <Tirek> I'm a generally angry individual.

20:18 * Unixkitty Boss Rushes Tirek, violently explodifying all the cardboard boxes in her wake

20:18 * Thelema5 "oooohs" at the spectacle

20:18 <Tirek> I'm telling mother.

20:19 <Unixkitty> Hahahahaha

20:19 <Thelema5> Ah ha ha

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20:19 <Unixkitty> I can't even

20:19 <Unixkitty> I can't breathe Tirek

20:20 <Tirek> Mom! She broke my beautiful wall of boxes!

20:20 <Tirek> It collapsed on another associate!

20:20 <Unixkitty> Goodness my stomach

20:20 <Tirek> Now -I'm- going to get fired!

20:20 <ADragonHoarding> Why is she choking, Tirek?

20:20 <ADragonHoarding> You know what we've said about the choking.

20:20 <Tirek> Who do you think I am? Darth Vader?

20:21 <Unixkitty> I haven't laughed this intensely in months Tirek, thank you

20:21 <ADragonHoarding> Exactly. There's supposed to be actual physical contact.

20:21 <ADragonHoarding> For shame.

20:21 <Unixkitty> I still can't stop

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20:21 *** Mom is now known as Pony_26243

20:21 *** Quits: SuperBrony (cyvmjgyjhuc@Pony-8bk9ub.k12.ne.us) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)

20:21 <Pony_26243> So ask her to stop!

20:21 <ADragonHoarding> Alright, who stole mom's screenname?

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20:21 <Unixkitty> Nelly

20:21 <Unixkitty> Woah nelly

20:22 <Tirek> Deep breaths, Unixkitty.

20:22 * Thelema5 applies paper bag

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20:22 <Unixkitty> What's the paper bag for?

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20:22 <Schism> Hyperventilation?

20:23 <Thelema5> http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/using-a-paper-bag-to-control-hyperventilation

20:23 <Schism> Though for Tirek, hyperventilation is when you blast a wall to smithereens.

20:23 <Unixkitty> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgi2GDirk7U

20:23 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

20:23 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MDK & Daniel Tera - Moonshine [Free Download]

20:23 <Unixkitty> Is that an actual thing, Thelema5?

20:23 <Schism> It's actually a thing, yes.

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20:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +ao Fall Fall

20:24 <Tirek> This is glitchhop, right?

20:24 <Tirek> Not really a fan.

20:24 <Unixkitty> I have no idea

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20:24 <Tirek> Oh, it phases between genres.

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20:25 <Thelema5> I think it's actually a thing, but I've never tried it

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20:25 <Tirek> It starts out as glitchhop and then goes into dubstep.

20:25 <Tirek> And I didn't listen long enough to see where else it goes, because I hate dubstep.

20:25 <Unixkitty> MDK has varying style, I can't really tell what it is

20:26 <Unixkitty> Here is something completely different

20:26 <Unixkitty> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuwrQ_RtkGI

20:26 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MDK & Evan King - Valhalla [Free Download]

20:30 * Cepheid flops.

20:30 <Tirek> Don't flop Cepheid, that encourages the FOEs!

20:30 <wobniaR> I'm not much of a dubstep or glitch hop version either but i don't mind a few songs

20:30 <wobniaR> Person not version*

20:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: IDW's San Diego Comic Art Gallery to Host Sara Richard and Kevin Eastman Signing Event! [ http://tinyurl.com/pwyxub2 ]

20:30 <Tirek> I am very adamant in my dislike of dubstep.

20:30 <Tirek> You might even call it hate.

20:31 <wobniaR> I can see why one would dislike it

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20:32 * Princess-Luna enjoys it, but this is clearly obvious

20:32 * Unixkitty boopsteps Princess-Luna

20:32 * Princess-Luna wubbuzzes Unixkitty

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20:32 * Unixkitty squeakyflails to Princess-Luna once again

20:33 <Tirek> Now I could probably fall asleep with ease.

20:33 <Tirek> I wish I had the time now.

20:33 <wobniaR> I could use a midday nap

20:34 <Tirek> I guess, since I have the time, I could take a shower.

20:34 * wobniaR applies progressive big deep room house to Princess-Luna

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20:34 <Cepheid> To be honest, flopping would encourage a FOE, yes.  WAlking near one encourages it.  Looking at one encourages it.  Breathing near one encourages it.  Just existing near one encourages it.

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20:34 <Cepheid> And all of the FOEs in the Claret Hollows are impossibly strong.

20:34 * Princess-Luna has no idea about genre differentials of electronic music most of the time. XD

20:35 <Tirek> I misread that as Clarinet Hollows and now I'm imagining a group of Squidwards brutally assaulting you with terrible music.

20:35 <wobniaR> It's okay, mainstream just categorizes it as electronic or dance music

20:35 <wobniaR> Only the hipsters and kool kids use genre labels

20:36 <Thelema5> Some of the musicians do, too.

20:36 <wobniaR> Most of the sub genres are just slight variations of sounds or instrumental anyway

20:36 <Cepheid> Tirek:  Funny thing that...

20:36 <Cepheid> That may as well be what's happening. :P

20:36 <Cepheid> Turtles, Birds, skeletal T-rexes.

20:37 <Tirek> All I really know about dubstep is that it uses extremely harsh, offensive sounds. The sounds and patterns the sounds are used in just... really make me angry.

20:37 <Cepheid> And of course, the core of the labyrinth, if I even get that far.

20:37 <Cepheid> As it is, killing the Great Dragon is an easier task than killing a Claret Hollows FOE.

20:37 <wobniaR> Yeah dubstep is all about the w0bz

20:37 <wobniaR> Some people like those sounds

20:37 <Tirek> Those sounds REALLY REALLY boil my blood.

20:38 <Tirek> And I don't even know why.

20:38 <wobniaR> Some sounds just do that

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20:39 <Princess-Luna> like some faces

20:39 *** Reia_Hope is now known as Reia_Away

20:39 *** Mongoosie|Shower is now known as Mongoosie

20:40 * wobniaR makes a silly face at Princess-Luna, smooshed faic

20:41 * Princess-Luna banishes wobniaR's face to the moon

20:42 <wobniaR> My beautiful face, locked away for no one to ever see again

20:43 <Princess-Luna> And nothing of value was lost

20:43 * wobniaR has a sad

20:44 <Princess-Luna> <3

20:45 <Unixkitty> Princess-Luna!

20:46 <Unixkitty> How could you do such a thing

20:46 <Princess-Luna> Easily?

20:46 * Unixkitty banishes wobniaR to Princess-Luna instead

20:47 <wobniaR> Sweet i could use an assistant to delegate unwanted work to

20:48 <Princess-Luna> >.>

20:50 * Cepheid pets Spitfire.

20:51 * Unixkitty pets Cepheid

20:51 * Unixkitty is expecting the universe to implode

20:55 * Cepheid pets Unixkitty.

20:55 * Unixkitty gasps and faints on Cepheid.

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20:56 *** Gigabit is now known as Gigaway

20:56 * Cepheid steals away Unixkitty.

20:57 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/G3iD4fK

20:59 <Schism> I love how when I contact my ISP for technical support issues (like a phone being down), and I reference internal tools, they always go, 'Wait, what?'

20:59 <Unixkitty> "Internal tools"?

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20:59 <Cepheid> Tools available to the company only.

21:00 <Schism> Cepheid sums it up.

21:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Weird Al Expresses Interest In More Cheese Sandwich Roles  [ http://tinyurl.com/zb3zb7y ]

21:00 <FN> Applebucks! I can't apply a tension wrench to a lock properly :/

21:01 <Sour_Sweet> I did something similar when my bank account manager told me he wouldn't be able to cancel a recurring wire transfer

21:01 <FN> The whole picking is pointless if you are not turning the core with the wrench

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21:01 <FN> You might as well just push lock in any other direction

21:02 * Unixkitty picks FN's lock and instantly levels up.

21:02 <Thelema5> It's a very light, barely perceiveable tention until the last pin clears the chamber

21:03 <Schism> Isn't it a torsion wrench?

21:03 <man_who_want_die> Hi...

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21:03 <Thelema5> Just enough to nudge the barrel enough to stop the pins from reseating

21:03 <FN> Well, I have only 12 o'clock tension renches, and this particular keyway is not really good for this type

21:03 <Thelema5> What kind of lock?

21:04 <FN> I need to make a few 6o'clock wrenches

21:04 <FN> Oh that's a term for the location of the wrench

21:04 <Sour_Sweet> I personally think key impressioning is more interesting than picking. I didn't have the chance to do any of the two until now sadly.

21:04 <FN> 12 o'clock is the wrench you stick in the furthest from the center part of the lock, closest to the edge

21:05 <Thelema5> Is it a padlock, or a fixed position lock?

21:05 <FN> 6 o'closk is at the part where all the key bidding slides into the lock

21:05 <FN> Those are usually thicker

21:05 <FN> Door lock

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21:05 <El> LOL, dat comic about Sunset.

21:05 <Thelema5> Have you tried a bump key?

21:06 <Princess-Luna> You mean the sunset simulator? XD

21:06 <El> Yeah.

21:06 <FN> I don't have a bump key

21:06 <FN> I need to open lock to take it out and replace with one I have a key for

21:06 <Thelema5> You should make one.  They're much easier than picking, and they work 80% of the time

21:06 <FN> Easier to just buy a set of those

21:07 <Thelema5> I wasn't sure if there were regulations in your area which would prevent ordering a set.

21:07 * Cepheid switches to Etrian Mystery Dungeon.

21:07 <FN> I just haven't seen a good one (there are a lot of questionable ones, and the good, respected company names go away in no time)

21:08 <FN> Thelema5, in most of the world owning any kind of lockpick is not illegal

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21:08 <FN> What is illegal is use them in a crime

21:08 <wobniaR> That dude's simulator comics are always weird

21:08 <wobniaR> It's like half waifu half weird simulator

21:09 <FN> I need to make a "claw" tension wrench

21:09 <wobniaR> I carry around lockpicks all the time

21:09 <wobniaR> Nothing wrong with possessing them

21:09 <Thelema5> In my state owning any kind of lockpick becomes illegal if you are caught using them in the commission of a crime (any crime, including minor violations)

21:09 <FN> Those are much better because they apply torque to the top and bottom of the keyway

21:10 <FN> Yeah here too

21:10 <Schism> Thelema5: A baseball bat is legal to carry around, until they find you beating people with it.

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21:10 <FN> Like if you have a balaclava and lockpicks on you: that's preparation for a crime

21:10 <wobniaR> Man who want die? Interesting name

21:11 <Thelema5> I doubt you'd be charged with posession of a deadly weapon if you beat someone with a bat, though.  You'd just be charged for the actual act of violence.

21:11 <FN> Ok, I have polished a lockpick, I'll go try again

21:11 <Schism> True, true.

21:11 <FN> In russia you will be charged as assaulting with weapon no matter what you use

21:11 <Cepheid> It's worth noting that Vinyl is wrecking everything we come across in this game..

21:12 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> Ech

21:12 <SkippeZ_ShadoW> I spent 200 after two years to get something broken

21:12 <FN> Also russian law is so backwards that majority of self defence are interpreted as an assault

21:12 <wobniaR> Yet in american law you can get away with murder

21:12 <Thelema5> That's nuts.

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21:15 <FN> Well in russia the court ruled "running over was done correctly" when a politician ran the red light and hit pedestrian to death

21:16 <FN> Moneys and connections set you free there

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21:16 <wobniaR> Does the same in murica

21:17 <Thelema5> Faster than a speeding Rainboom, More powerful than an Alicorn Amulet,  Able to leap tall horses in a single bound, Look, up in the chat! It's a bird, it's a changling... it's Superbrony!

21:17 <wobniaR> I bet i can outbrony all of you together

21:17 <Thelema5> Come fite me

21:17 * Thelema5 flailyhooves

21:17 <Tirek> I know the Smooze recipe.

21:18 <wobniaR> Let's go 1292 1st avenue 10018 behind mcdonalds

21:18 <Tirek> Beat each other up and then buy each other a burger.

21:18 <Tirek> Best date.

21:18 <ArchPegasusMichael> XD

21:18 <wobniaR> Exactly

21:18 <wobniaR> Or burger first then fite

21:19 <Tirek> Why not a burger fight?

21:19 <wobniaR> Waste of good burgers

21:19 <wobniaR> Oh wait it's mcdonalds

21:19 <Thelema5> Yo I don't see you, bro https://goo.gl/a1i2IJ

21:19 <man_who_want_die> Hi guys...

21:20 <Thelema5> Hello, man_who_want_die

21:20 <wobniaR> Yes i made up that address, 1st avenue is on the east side

21:20 <Princess-Luna> Well thats an interesting name choice

21:20 <wobniaR> 10018 is west side times square

21:20 * CocoPommel grumbles

21:21 * wobniaR applies blankets to CocoPommel

21:21 <Tirek> Man, I want to go back to New York City.

21:21 <Thelema5> Oddly, there is still a MacDonald's there.

21:21 <Thelema5> lol

21:21 <man_who_want_die> Thanks Princess Luna

21:21 <wobniaR> There's a mcdonalds everywhere

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21:21 <Tirek> Maybe I'll take a bus up there some day next year, after I've gotten enough hours to take a 2 week vacation.

21:21 <Thelema5> It takes me 25 minutes to drive to my nearest MacDonalds

21:22 <wobniaR> It takes me 25 minutes to walk to mcdonadl

21:22 <Thelema5> :P

21:22 <wobniaR> Order and get back home

21:22 <Thelema5> I've eaten at MacDonalds exactly once in the past 4 years.

21:22 <wobniaR> Bring lots of money Tirek, everything is expensive

21:23 <Thelema5> It was extremely salty.

21:23 <wobniaR> Mcdonalds is terrible

21:23 <wobniaR> I go to shake shack

21:23 <Princess-Luna> EU McDonalds is great

21:23 <Princess-Luna> Much less salt and such

21:23 <wobniaR> Because stricter local health regulations

21:23 <FN> Applebucking razzle dazzle cider barrels!!!

21:23 <Thelema5> I don't mind McDonalds, some of their food is yummy.  At least, as I remember it.

21:24 <Sketchy_Sounds> I must admit to being a fan of the Five guys we have here in my town now.

21:24 <Thelema5> I don't know if that one time was a fluke, or if my tastes have just changed,

21:24 <wobniaR> Five guys is good too

21:24 <FN> I picked the lock, but I spun it the wrong way!

21:24 <Cepheid> I want to go to the Mandarin here in Ottawa.

21:24 <FN> So I locked the door on one more turn!

21:24 <wobniaR> Both five guys & shake shack have nice greasy burgers

21:24 * FN facehooves and facedesks

21:24 <Thelema5> Five Guys is amazing, until you read the nutrition facts.

21:25 <wobniaR> The more calories the better right?

21:25 <Sketchy_Sounds> Lolz. that and the premium you pay for the food is why it's an occasional treat :p

21:25 <CocoPommel> I've never heard of this five guys establishment

21:25 <FN> Ok that's enough for today, I'll pick it tomorrow

21:25 <Tirek> wobniaR, I know.

21:25 <wobniaR> Yeah five guys is more expensive than cheap food

21:25 <Tirek> I've been to New York twice.

21:25 <Thelema5> I ate a burger there which had more than 2200 calories

21:25 <Tirek> Hung around Manhattan for about 8 hours both times.

21:25 <Sketchy_Sounds> But yeah I certainly loved it last time I went. I had one of their cheeseburgers with bbq sauce. Best decision I ever made, it was amazing.

21:25 <wobniaR> Delicious

21:26 <Thelema5> Maybe I'll go on my birthday as a special treat

21:26 <Thelema5> I don't suppose they have anything my vegetarian partner would eat other than fries, though

21:26 <wobniaR> Their fries are fried in peanut oil

21:26 <Princess-Luna> they do

21:27 <wobniaR> It's delicious

21:27 <Princess-Luna> I believe they have vegetable and fish options...not much though

21:27 <Thelema5> I'll have to check out the menu

21:28 <wobniaR> Http://www.fiveguys.com

21:28 <wobniaR> ALL the toppings

21:28 <wobniaR> Five guys has cheese sandwiches

21:28 <wobniaR> And a cheese veggie one

21:30 <Thelema5> Hmm.  I mis-remembered my 2200 calorie burger- I just recalulated, that was for the whole meal, including fries.

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21:30 <Schism> Mmm.

21:30 <Cepheid> So ya know how my sister's been suffering from allergic reactions to something?

21:30 <wobniaR> Tfw the cajun fries have more calories than the bacon cheeseburger

21:30 <Cepheid> Well, after her last attack they expedited her allergy test.  She got it done today.

21:31 <Cepheid> She's not allergic to anything.

21:31 <Schism> Now that the oven is working again, I have decided to make up a lasagna.

21:31 * Schism rolls over to Thelema5 and offers a particulary spicy Italian pepper lasagna with some extra cheddar.

21:31 <Schism> Ahem, particularly*

21:32 <Cepheid> They suspect it may be a reaction between aspirin and tylenol.

21:32 <wobniaR> Eis

21:32 <Schism> NSAIDs influence each other in that way?  Yeesh.

21:33 <wobniaR> Says it on the bottle

21:33 <Cepheid> I've not had any such reaction, myself.

21:33 <wobniaR> Don't take a NSAID if you're currently taking another

21:33 <Cepheid> Little late for that.

21:33 <CocoPommel> I like Aleve

21:34 <Cepheid> Nowadays, so do I, but I sometimes take other medications alongside it.

21:34 <Schism> Store-brand ibuprofen is more my style.

21:35 <Thelema5> bacon cheeseburger with mushrooms, onions, jalapenos, lettuce, tomato, and hot sauce is... 951 calories, plus a large fries (1314 cal) is 2265 calories overall

21:35 <Schism> I like how the large fries is more calorific than the bacon cheeseburger.

21:35 <Thelema5> And a whopping 115 grams of fat, geez

21:36 <Thelema5> Why does she take both?

21:36 <Cepheid> Dunno.

21:36 <wobniaR> Oh hey i didn't notice that was regular fries calories

21:37 <wobniaR> 1314 for large hahahaha

21:37 <Thelema5> Yeah, I was shocked to see that... although really, they give you enough fries for 4 people

21:37 <wobniaR> Buy like 2 of those and you have enough calories for a day

21:37 * El note to self: eat large fries to gain more weight

21:38 <wobniaR> It's a big cup full of fries

21:38 <wobniaR> FREEDOM fries are my fav

21:38 <Thelema5> Ah ha ha

21:38 * Schism sets a lasagna in the oven.

21:38 <CocoPommel> I love fries, had some chili fries last night. And noodles in fact. Noodles were stale though :/

21:38 * wobniaR sets the outside of Schism's oven on fire

21:38 <CocoPommel> Heh freedom fries

21:39 <CocoPommel> I love making lasagna

21:39 * Schism makes use of that fire to cook his food. o3o

21:39 <Schism> Mm, delicious vegetable and eggplant lasagna.

21:40 <Thelema5> So fruit and veggies

21:40 <Thelema5> :P

21:41 <wobniaR> Heresy

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21:44 <El> http://t-3000.deviantart.com/art/Gothic-Celestia-528102670

21:44 * El goes :I to this comic

21:45 <CocoPommel> I don't mind some eggplant

21:45 <Sour_Sweet> McFlurry + hot applebag = YUMMY

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21:45 <CocoPommel> Sounds..

21:45 <CocoPommel> Interesting.

21:46 <Sour_Sweet> nvm, I looked at old lines ;-) My client was lagging

21:46 <CocoPommel> What's a hot apple bag :)

21:46 <CocoPommel> Oh nvm pie lol sorry

21:46 <Sour_Sweet> http://www.mcdonalds.ch/sites/default/files/des-applepie-big.jpg

21:47 <Sour_Sweet> Yeah I just noticed the english name is different :P

21:47 <CocoPommel> Wait.. That wasn't a typo o _0

21:47 <Sour_Sweet> Silly languages

21:47 <El> Poor Vinyl — http://bobthedalek.deviantart.com/art/Tea-Party-Of-Terror-528096282

21:48 <CocoPommel> Huh, I kind of remember something about large Apple pie from McDonald's

21:48 <CocoPommel> Those are pretty good..

21:49 <Sour_Sweet> I only eat them in combination with ice cream ;-)

21:49 <Cepheid> Bleh.  I am suddenly exhausted.

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21:51 <CocoPommel> Only with ice cream? Talk about living it up, some folks get to have all the fun

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21:54 <FN> My finger starts to hurt from picking that lock

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21:55 <FN> The edge of the pick handle has too square of ametal edge

21:55 <mniip> [00:43:09] <El> http://t-3000.deviantart.com/art/Gothic-Celestia-528102670

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21:55 <mniip> I wonder how does one dye that fancy mane

21:55 <FN> It has a spool in it, I guess I have picked it on pure luck the first time (but I turned the wrong way)

21:56 <wobniaR> Very carefully

21:57 <FN> Emo-lestia looks kinda cool though

21:57 <CocoPommel> Honestly I always wanted to learn lock picking as a hobby but I never had the tools.

21:58 <FN> CocoPommel, Southord C2010 is a reasonably affordable quality starter set on amazon (it's what I have now)

21:59 <CocoPommel> Heh too lady gaga or whatever but I like her dialogue. She sounds adorable in my imagination~

21:59 <FN> It needs some finishing touches with sandpaper: the handle edges too sharp and the edge of the pick hook has a rough edge which makes it hard to push through pins

21:59 <CocoPommel> For me*

22:00 <CocoPommel> Huh, cool, ty :)

22:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1731 - Necromorph Slayer  [ http://tinyurl.com/h8szxdh ]

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22:03 *** CocoPommel is now known as Tree-Hugger

22:03 <FN> There are other sets from them but I don't really know which of them are the barn-lock sets (thick and wide sturdy picks for heavy spring locks) and which are american (thinner but still wide blade) or european lock sets (thinner and narrower than previous two)

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22:03 <FN> You can pick a barn lock with european pick, but there is a chance to bend or even break it

22:04 <Thelema5> FN, have you tried back-shimming the lock with a string or wire?

22:04 <FN> So eu ones are the most versatile

22:04 <Tree-Hugger> This is all news to me :)

22:04 <FN> Thelema5, I just picked it, but I spun it the wrong way

22:04 <Thelema5> Won't work on a dead-bolt, but it's super effective on a door-knob lock

22:04 <Schism> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq6h85VFfEU

22:04 <FN> I have locked on the second spin :/

22:05 <Schism> Ahem...

22:05 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq6h85VFfEU

22:05 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Skyrim Lockpick (Animation)

22:06 <Tree-Hugger> I never fully understood the skyrim lock picking system. The oblivion/eso makes more sense to me, I see where they were going with it though.

22:06 <Tree-Hugger> one*

22:06 <Thelema5> If you can thread a string or wire around the back of the catch, then gently apply pressure on the door in the direction it opens while pulling the loop forward it'll spring the lock

22:07 <FN> Mafia 2 makes a fine mini-game out of it

22:07 <Thelema5> That's my most reliable means of gaining access to abandoned buildings- it works well on them because older structured generally have enough play to manage it.

22:07 <Schism> No minigame can really capture the whole idea.

22:07 <FN> Thelema5, nu, that's a modern lock

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22:08 <FN> After all it has a spool in it: I can feel the lock spinning back when I press on one pin

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22:09 <Schism> Okay, things are getting ridiculous around here.

22:10 <Schism> Youtube's pushed me down to 144p, and our phone service is offline for some reason.

22:10 <Thelema5> 144p, guh

22:11 <Schism> There's stupidity, and then there's THIS.

22:11 <Midnight_Lilly> Sounds like you got it better then me.

22:12 <Tree-Hugger> Yeah YouTube can get in a mood sometimes

22:12 <Schism> No, this is entirely due to construction in the area.

22:12 <Tree-Hugger> I've had it give me problems before, and I'm in silicon valley or whatever

22:13 <FN> 144p = laap?

22:13 <Schism> FN: 25% packet loss.

22:13 <FN> I am being deliberately obtuse for the sake of 1337 joke o3o

22:14 <Schism> Pff.  :<

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22:18 <Finwe> o3o

22:18 <Finwe> Messrs Schism, Thelema5 and FruitNibbler.

22:18 * Finwe doffs his hat.

22:19 <Thelema5> Hello, Finwe

22:19 <Thelema5> Folks, I'm heading home.  Bye, everypony!

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22:19 * Finwe snuggles a Tree-Hugger.

22:20 <fyrepony> Finwe:  when you think we will finally get some snow?

22:20 <Finwe> I don't know.

22:20 <fyrepony> not that i would mind if whole winter would be like this...

22:20 * Tree-Hugger snugs~ Hi Finwe

22:21 <Finwe> Yesterday it was -3°C, but today it has been +6°C.

22:21 * Schism doffs his shoe. "rAdm. Finwe."

22:21 * Schism offers Finwe also a slice of lasagna...

22:21 <Schism> Finwe: Yes, today's been the same.  Unseasonably warm.

22:22 * Finwe noms on the lasagne and offers some home-made chorizo sausages in exchange.

22:22 <Sour_Sweet> Can you believe it? Silly pones complaining a warm day

22:23 <Schism> Who's complaining?

22:23 <Schism> It was a beautiful day to go out for a walk.

22:23 <Finwe> It's not supposed to be warm in the winter.

22:23 <Sour_Sweet> It's getting cold probably soon enough

22:23 <Finwe> It's supposed to be cold and snowy.

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22:25 <Finwe> I'd rather walk in a snowstorm than in close-to-freezing rain showers.

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22:27 <Schism> Yes, but tonight I walked through a wonderfully light shower, just a gentle mist.

22:27 <Sour_Sweet> I have to say though I'd prefer to have snow on x-mas. Apart from that I don't need it ;-)

22:28 <SilverString> hello

22:28 <Finwe> Last year the midsummer was colder than midwinter.

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22:29 * Gladiolus rolls clockwise

22:29 <Finwe> Mr Gladiolus.

22:29 * Gladiolus soffs Finwe

22:29 <Gladiolus> doffs

22:29 <Gladiolus> softly doffs

22:29 * Finwe doffs his hat.

22:30 <Finwe> Softly does off = soffs?

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22:33 <Librarian> mistah finwe

22:33 * Librarian doffs an insurance olicy

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22:35 <Librarian> mooo

22:35 <Librarian> yay

22:35 <Librarian> great name

22:42 * SilverString tppbbths

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22:53 <Heartbreak> asdffdsaasdaf

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22:54 <PegasistersUnite> hey pplz

22:54 * Heartbreak boops PegasistersUnite.

22:55 <PegasistersUnite> lol;)

22:55 <PegasistersUnite> so...season 5 is over:O

22:56 <Princess-Luna> Yep, season 6 is on the way

22:56 <PegasistersUnite> the holiday special is in 5 days

22:56 * Cepheid flops after a shower.

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22:59 <Princess-Luna> There's not really a holiday special tho'. :p

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23:00 * Cepheid is debating picking up FF14 sometime this month.

23:00 <Gladiolus> holiday special? wat

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23:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 3D Animation - Mikakunin de Shinkoukei [ http://tinyurl.com/zqgyfz7 ]

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23:05 <Librarian> holiday special?

23:05 <Librarian> what are we doctor who?

23:05 <Finwe> Mr Librarian.

23:05 <Librarian> mista finwee

23:05 * Finwe doffs his hat while watching The Walking Dead.

23:06 * Librarian doffs an insurance policy

23:06 <Librarian> want insurance

23:06 <Librarian> ?

23:06 <Librarian> i have a lot of them

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23:07 * Finwe already has an assurance.

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23:07 <Librarian> wrong button owo

23:08 <Finwe> o3o

23:08 <Finwe> Librarian: I already have an assurance.

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23:09 <Librarian> i can probly beat it in price

23:09 <Librarian> im good at it

23:10 <El> Herpa derp.

23:11 <Librarian> derpus maximus

23:12 * El plumps Librarian

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23:17 <Finwe> El: Greetings, O supreme god.

23:17 <Cepheid> B29F seems to be the "safest" place for me to murder stuff without too much risk of death.

23:18 * Heartbreak laughs insanely.

23:18 * Schism flies in and flops on Heartbreak.

23:18 <Heartbreak> Gah!

23:18 <Finwe> Cepheid: You murderer!

23:18 <Cepheid> Gives me an insane amount of XP per battle too.

23:18 <Cepheid> 170,000+

23:18 <Schism> Huuuugggggsss...!

23:18 <Heartbreak> Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

23:18 * Finwe snoogles Heartbreak.

23:18 * Heartbreak mares Schism.

23:18 * Schism has already been mared!

23:18 <Heartbreak> Finwe, you have an unhealthy obession with that doll that looks like me.

23:18 * Divide|TechSupport boops Heartbreak.

23:19 <Heartbreak> Stop it.

23:19 <Finwe> Night-mared?

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23:19 <Heartbreak> The mare has been doubled!

23:19 <Finwe> Heartbreak: What are you babbling about? I have no doll.

23:19 * Finwe re-snoogles a Heartbreak.

23:20 * Heartbreak shoves a doll in Finwe's face and pushes him away!

23:20 <Heartbreak> You Do Now!

23:20 * Finwe noms on the doll and on the real Heartbreak.

23:20 <Finwe> o3o

23:20 <Heartbreak> No You Don't!

23:21 <Finwe> Yes, I do.

23:21 <Finwe> *omnomnom*

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23:21 <Heartbreak> No you don't.

23:22 * Schism passes Heartbreak a slice of eggplant lasagna, with extra cheddar, slices of tomato, parmesan, and breadcrumbs atop, all the better to render it utterly delicious.

23:23 <Finwe> Cheddar in lasagne?

23:23 <Finwe> Blasphemy. o3o

23:23 <Schism> Cheddar and parmesan /atop/ lasagne.

23:23 <Finwe> Iconoclasm.

23:23 * Heartbreak nom nom nom noms.

23:24 <Heartbreak> Daus guud.

23:24 <Schism> Yus...

23:24 <Finwe> Parmesano Reggiano is acceptable, but cheddar? D:

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23:24 <Finwe> Mr Jon-The_Bronynerd.

23:24 <Schism> More a casserole, less a lasagne.

23:24 * Finwe doffs his hat and hugs a Jon-The_Bronynerd.

23:24 <Cepheid> 240,000 EXP...  Sheesh.

23:24 <Schism> Which renders it in no way less tasty.

23:24 <Midnight_Lilly> ?

23:25 <Jon-The_Bronynerd> Mr. Finwe.

23:25 <Heartbreak> Hey, the cows that make that kind of cheese are snooty and pepper-jack up the prices.

23:25 * Jon-The_Bronynerd doffs his muffin hat and returns the hug to Finwe.

23:25 <Finwe> Pecorino Romano might also be acceptable.

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23:25 <Finwe> Hello, Midnight_Lilly.

23:25 <wobniaR> Pecorino romano is MOre than acceptable Finwe

23:26 <Heartbreak> Just like those Saddle-Arabians who harvest saffron. Good gawds that stuff is expensive.

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23:26 <Schism> Most expensive spice in the universe.

23:27 <Finwe> Is it now?

23:27 <Schism> The spice melange ain't got nothing on saffron.

23:27 *** OctaveSymphony is now known as Octave|Bed

23:27 <Heartbreak> Twenty bucks on earth, and you don't want to know how much in Equestria.

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23:28 <Schism> Anyway, be back soonish.  At least our internet services are running fine, just... eghh...

23:29 * Cepheid abuses Grimoire Stone mechanics.

23:29 <Schism> Failure to have home phone, that really puts a spike in my water main.

23:29 <Schism> Back in a few hours, we'll see how things go.  Eughrng.

23:29 <Sour_Sweet> Have a good night everypony!

23:29 <Finwe> Eughrng, Mr Schism.

23:30 * Finwe waves his hoof to Schism.

23:30 <Finwe> That Canadian word for farewell sure is weird.

23:30 *** Sour_Sweet is now known as Seoson|BNC

23:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Balloon Pony Finishes Up Season With A Blast! [ http://tinyurl.com/p82mgp3 ]

23:30 <Finwe> Eughrng.

23:32 <Cepheid> That's not a Canadian word.

23:33 <Cepheid> And thus, with abuse of game mechanics, I got a strong shield equipped on a squishy healer.

23:36 <El> > [04:16] Finwe: El: Greetings, O supreme god. — Are you okay, Finwe?

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23:44 <Librarian> head is killing me

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23:44 <Librarian> much math is bad for the head

23:45 <Cepheid> So, got an idea as to what's going on with my sister.

23:45 <Librarian> owo

23:45 <Tree-Hugger> I've had a headache since yesterday

23:45 <Cepheid> She's suffering from extreme hives, which is triggering an asthma reaction that strangely is affecting her face as well.

23:45 <Cepheid> Apparently, what brings on the hives in the first place is any NSAID.

23:45 <Librarian> hives freak me out

23:45 <Librarian> i feel for her

23:45 <Tree-Hugger> Good to know, glad you guys are making progress turn

23:46 <Tree-Hugger> Then*

23:46 <Cepheid> It's not anaphylactic shock either, so she doesn't need an epipen.

23:46 <Tree-Hugger> Well that's good

23:46 <Cepheid> It's just really bad cases of hives.  So long as she avoids any NSAIDs(Naproxen/Aleve, Tylenol, etc.) she'll be fine.

23:46 <Tree-Hugger> Those sound kinda scary

23:46 <Tree-Hugger> Hmm seems simple enough

23:47 <Librarian> those are good pills

23:47 <Librarian> hope she doesnt het much headaches

23:47 <Cepheid> Indeed.  Naproxen/Aleve, I need to function.

23:47 <Cepheid> And not in a "druuuugggs!" manner.

23:48 <Cepheid> It's the best treatment for my daily headaches.  Keeps them away.

23:50 <El> http://i49.tinypic.com/idbv61.gif ?

23:52 <Tree-Hugger> I'm reporting that as offensive material

23:53 <Librarian> why?

23:53 <Tree-Hugger> Cause I felt like it

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23:54 <Tree-Hugger> It offends my delicate sensibilities, need I say more?

23:54 <Tree-Hugger> :3

23:54 <Librarian> nuuu

23:54 * Tree-Hugger shrugs

23:54 * Princess-Luna offends Tree-Hugger

23:54 <Tree-Hugger> How dare thee!

23:54 <Librarian> your offense offends me

23:54 <Tree-Hugger> Oh.. princess.. eh heh

23:54 <Tree-Hugger> Excuse me

23:54 <Librarian> dont mess with the princess

23:54 <Librarian> she os da boss

23:54 <Tree-Hugger> Well excuuuuse me!

23:55 <Librarian> no zelda reference

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23:55 <Librarian> 1000 years dungeon!

23:55 <Librarian> on the moon

23:55 <Librarian> with an angry donkey

23:55 <Tree-Hugger> But.. https://youtu.be/FPxY8lpYAUM :<

23:55 <Tree-Hugger> No fair!!

23:56 <Tree-Hugger> *pouts*

23:56 <Librarian> its da rules

23:56 * Librarian gives the silly rules book to tree-hugger

23:56 * Tree-Hugger listens to the audio book instead

23:57 <Librarian> other rules is no audiobooks

23:57 <Librarian> no hats on sunday

23:57 <Librarian> and no icecream on days thta start with w

23:58 <El> https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8574218752/hAAE5B9B2/

23:58 <Librarian> owo

23:58 <Librarian> that is allowed

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23:59 <Librarian> anyone here play starcraft?

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23:59 <El> I watch it.