00:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Legends of Everfree GEO Dolls Now Listed for Pre-Order on Entertainment Earth [ http://tinyurl.com/zpwgdjo ]
00:02 <Cepheid> Mmm, new bullets workin' well.
00:03 <RomTheBronyGuru112> new animeme rap battle is out. my little pony vs pokemon. it has cuss words though
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00:13 * Cepheid murders a Kongou and a Chi-You.
00:14 <Fall> You're not playing Pomeon Go right
00:14 <Cepheid> No.
00:15 <Fall> How the hell did I mangle the word Pokemon so badly?
00:16 <SunsetShimmer> lol
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00:16 <SunsetShimmer> Gokumon!
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00:20 <Cepheid> http://gawker.com/9-tips-for-mastering-pokemon-go-1783333597
00:20 <Cepheid> Something about this is off.
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00:22 <Schism|Tech> dead, I'm dead, that's it I'm completely murdered.
00:23 * Cepheid calls Schism for tech support.
00:23 <Cepheid> My cup holder is broken.
00:23 <Schism|Tech> Forget everything, Vinyl has obliterated me.
00:23 <Schism|Tech> Sunset has rendered my corpse to ashes.
00:24 <Schism|Tech> And Unixkitty has levied at me a kill -9.
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00:30 <Cepheid> Whee, killed a Borg Camlann at last.
00:32 <Fall> They have multiphasic shielding. They'll adapt.
00:32 <Cepheid> Ironically it does actually have a shield.
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00:39 <Librarian> bye by
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00:53 <Cepheid> Wait, ZeroParadox?
00:53 <ZeroParadox> Yo.
00:55 * SunsetShimmer chuckles
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01:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1949 - Ponymon Go [ http://tinyurl.com/zfa6gms ]
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01:15 <DARK> hellooo
01:15 <Cepheid> "Yep, just another day at the ol' Aragami killing office." "Hey, get back here and keep dying!"
01:15 <Cepheid> This voice for my God Eater character is the best. It suits me \so well.
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01:48 <Cepheid> "My chances of hitting the target rises astronomically if I don't close my eyes out of fear before I fire!"
01:48 <Cepheid> You... don't sayl.
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02:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Vs. Pokemon Rap Battle (Mature Themes) [ http://tinyurl.com/zl6vewp ]
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02:08 <Cepheid> The lactaid, it does nothing!
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02:24 <PrincessLightning> Guess who's back
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02:39 <MisterRogers> Guys I'm not good with relaxing, I need some tips.
02:40 <Cepheid> Honestly? Read a book, play a video game, watch some anime or cartoons or some other type of TV show, watch a movie. There are other choices I can also suggest, but I am not allowed to suggest them here.
02:43 <PrincessLightning> Sleep
02:43 <PrincessLightning> With calming music in the background
02:43 <MisterRogers> Luna radio it is then.
02:44 <Nicktendonick> Link?
02:44 <MisterRogers> http://ponyvillelive.com/
02:45 <MisterRogers> There, most mlp radio stations.
02:45 <MisterRogers> Also thanks for the tips PrincessLightning, Cepheid.
02:45 <PrincessLightning> <3
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02:49 <PrincessLightning> Np qt
02:51 * Cepheid pets cat that has come to seek attention.
02:57 <Cepheid> Quiet evening.
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03:02 <PrincessLightning> Let's liven it up then
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03:04 * Cepheid takes a glass of motts clamato lime, and adds a full shot of sriracha sauce to it and mixes.
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03:05 <Cepheid> .... My lips are burning.
03:05 <Cepheid> Whee, 7 days until I head to Toronto.
03:07 <PrincessLightning> Ooh for what?
03:07 <Schism> Bleh. Thinking.. I might need to take some of this salami and fry it up.
03:08 <Cepheid> Visiting my sister. Will also try to pop over to Kitchener to harass Schism and his brother.
03:09 <PrincessLightning> Lol
03:09 <Schism> Remember, if you have the opportunity, I'll be giving you my work hours so that you don't wind up waiting outside in 90-degree heat.
03:09 <Cepheid> Right.
03:09 <Cepheid> I'd advise you give me your work hours prior to my trip. Say on Thursday or Friday morning.
03:09 <Schism> THIS week, I've been working 11-7 on a daily basis, but it really depends.
03:10 <Schism> And aye.
03:10 <Cepheid> Right, I'll be in Toronto from Friday morning to late Monday evening.
03:10 <Schism> Funfun; I usually work Wednesdays through Sundays, with Mondays and Tuesdays off.
03:11 <Cepheid> Monday morning then, perhaps.
03:11 <Schism> Mayhaps, yea.
03:12 <Schism> ... my, my, oh me oh my, but I'm seeing a lot of burning bridges over at Murdochs News. That's all I'll say, but the smile on my face could fill an encyclopedia.
03:13 <Cepheid> Hmm?
03:13 <Cepheid> Oh.
03:13 <Schism> Yyyyyyup. That.
03:14 <Cepheid> Huh. Someone searching for a pokemon in Pokemon Go found a dead corpse instead.
03:15 <Cepheid> Gotta catch 'em all, I guess.
03:15 <Schism> How utterly Gastly.
03:15 <Cepheid> I really hope the pokemon they were chasing was a ghost type.
03:15 <Cepheid> It'd make it several levels more screwed up.
03:16 <Science_Woona> WAAH
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03:16 <Schism> You're going to get a lot of stories like this, TBH. It happens with virtually every game with RL aspects.
03:16 <Cepheid> http://i.imgur.com/4Ubaske.jpg Ahahahaha!
03:17 <Cepheid> Schism: Indeed, especially since it forces people to explore areas thatn o one ever traverses.
03:17 <Cepheid> In a way, it's a boon. But at the same time, it's a curse. Too many people are also trespassing on locations.
03:17 <Schism> That's horrible, Cepheid, and augh.
03:17 <Schism> And gods, but it's as old as the hills: remember the D&D scares from the 1980s.'
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03:18 <Cepheid> I was not alive for that.
03:18 <Cepheid> In fact, I was -6 years old.
03:18 <Cepheid> Well, if we count from 1980, anyways.
03:19 <Schism> I caught the end of that; Patricia Pulling kept ranting against it until 1997.
03:19 <PrincessLightning> Brb fam
03:20 <Cepheid> Schism, this reminds me.
03:20 <Cepheid> Just how old ARE you?
03:20 <Schism> 29, born in 1986. We're not too far removed, as age is concerned.
03:20 <Cepheid> Aye.
03:21 <Cepheid> I was born in 1986 as well, but there was no way you "caught the end of that" because you were a total of ONE YEAR OLD.
03:21 <Schism> 19/9/7, I said I caught the tail end, and she never gave up the fight until she passed on.
03:22 <Schism> Besides, she was just the most well-known advocate of the "D&D IS EVUL" crowd, and there were quite a lot of others sparking the moral panic.
03:22 <Cepheid> Heh.
03:22 <Cepheid> Ah.
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03:22 <Cepheid> "It's working! Yay!" - Hibari, "Hey, where do you think you're going? Get back here and keep dying!" - Me
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03:23 <Schism> Meanwhile, there are genuinely sick people like us...
03:23 <Cepheid> Wait, what?
03:23 <Cepheid> Oh, you mean mental health issues? :P
03:24 <Schism> Well, yes, by which I mean we have been given to burn an antagonist to death once or twice.
03:25 <Schism> (Red from Penumbra: Overture does not count.)]
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03:29 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #768 [ http://tinyurl.com/hh4yr4d ]
03:32 * Schism considers buying some foodstuffs for to fill his stomach...
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03:34 <Princess-Lightning> back
03:34 <Princess-Lightning> I forgot my password
03:34 <Surreal_Nightmares> Lol
03:35 <Princess-Lightning> My phone usually auto-does that for me
03:35 <Schism> Sorry, but that's a Google account, I'm unable to help you recover it at this time.
03:35 <Princess-Lightning> thanks
03:36 <Schism> ( This is the polite way to say 'die in a fire'. )
03:37 <Cepheid> XD
03:37 * Cepheid goes to bust up Basement Croc again. Needs it's horn.
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03:43 <Cepheid> There we are. Hammer did a good job.
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03:49 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.
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03:53 <Cepheid> ... Holy hell, is that a breeze coming through my WINDOW?
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04:01 <Thelema5> http://county10.com/201021174044426240/teen-playing-new-pokemon-game-on-phone-discovers-body-in-wind-river
04:01 <Cepheid> Gotta catch them ghost types somehow.
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04:02 <Thelema5> :P
04:04 <Schism> There, THERE, thrice accursed store.
04:05 <Schism> Pepperoni, pepperoncini, spicy/sweet pickles, milk, ice cream bars and soda and a hundred freezy pops.
04:05 <fyrepony> Schism: im coming over...let me just book my 800euro tickets
04:06 <Schism> Don't bother yet, the freezy pops aren't frozen yet.
04:07 * Schism flops on Cepheid.
04:07 <Cepheid> http://gawker.com/9-tips-for-mastering-pokemon-go-1783333597 There's something wrong with this article.
04:08 <Schism> I'm kind of generally disturbed by these articles.
04:08 <Schism> That, and the person who wrote that article is... ... clearly not a fan.
04:10 <Cepheid> Indeed.
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04:11 <Gladiolus> I giggled.
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04:14 <KooK> So many poops
04:14 <Cepheid> ... ... What.
04:15 <Cepheid> Oh, it's my GST returns.
04:15 <Cepheid> $360.
04:15 <Divide> One week until I buy Monster Hunter... also, lucky. I JUST passed over the limit on taxes... so owed the government $10.
04:16 <Cepheid> Ow.
04:16 <Cepheid> You're getting MHGens?
04:16 <Divide> I think I can splurge enough to pick that up. Though I'll be using my brother's 3DS and Nintendo account for now.
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04:17 <Cepheid> Given it's cheaper than a majority of major games being released in Canada these days...
04:17 <Cepheid> $50 over $80.
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04:17 <Divide> Certainly superior, that.
04:17 <Divide> I suspect that'll result in higher sales, too.
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04:20 <Cepheid> Another Monster Hunter-styled game actually has a much cheaper game on sale on PSN at the moment. Assuming you got a PS4 or a PS Vita.
04:20 <Cepheid> God Eater Resurrection is $20. A grand, glorious remake of God Eater Burst.
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04:21 <Schism> I haven't bought a Sony console since the PS2, I'm afraid.
04:21 <Cepheid> Heh.
04:21 <Cepheid> Well, lemme stream it then so you can watch. :P
04:21 <Schism> I /have/ heard good things about the God Eater series...
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04:21 <Schism> Also, I'm going to get sleep soon I'm afraid.
04:22 <Cepheid> Ah, nevermind then. Sleep well!
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04:23 * Cepheid makes note to check see if this inhaler's counter can be reset or set to an arbitrary value.
04:27 * Schism briefly boops Cepheid with a chocolate-coated vanilla ice cream bar.
04:28 * Cepheid noms.
04:35 * Renny gives Cepheid a shot with medicine equal to 15 benadryl
04:36 * Cepheid yays!
04:36 <Renny> :P
04:36 <Renny> How do today, silly pon?
04:38 * Schism rolls over to Renny and offers a slice of chocolate cherry cheesecake, with dulce de leche icing.
04:40 * Renny also eats part of Schism's hoof
04:40 <Renny> Since vacation I think I can eat two cows after I already eat a meal :l
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04:57 <Cepheid> Ah, that's a nice sight. "Total: $1,258"
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05:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Simple PMV Compilation #161 [ http://tinyurl.com/hyzbp29 ]
05:02 * Schism listens to some songs. Jethro Tull, Yes, David Bowie, Steely Dan...
05:05 <Schism> Come to think, it's kind of strange how I listen to the last generation of music, rather than what was released during my youth...
05:08 <Pony_20410> What sort of music do you enjoy?
05:08 <Pony_20410> Oh, I'm a pony now. Thant's fun.
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05:09 <Thelema5> Storms are derping my connection.
05:09 <Schism> Thelema5: Oh, I'm very much a fan of prog rock.
05:09 <Schism> Right now I'm listening to Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick.
05:10 <Thelema5> Good stuff, that album has passed the test of time.
05:10 <Schism> But of course you also have your Led Zeppelin, Guess Who, The Who, and let us never forget Queen, Pink Floyd, and all so many others.\
05:10 <Schism> -\
05:10 <Thelema5> Are you familiar with King Crimson?
05:11 <Schism> Golly gee yes, I am. :3
05:11 <Schism> Really, I mentioned Steely Dan earlier, how can I be familiar with /them/ and not with King Crimson?
05:11 <Thelema5> I wasn't paying attention.
05:12 <Schism> Well, there you go.
05:12 <Thelema5> In The Court Of The Crimson King has been one of my favorite albumns since childhood.
05:12 <Thelema5> It's the one thing I am /always/ looking for in vinyl bins- I would love to own an analog copy.
05:13 <Schism> Oh man, I wish I still had my LP player. Need to pick up a new one.
05:14 <Thelema5> I picked one up at a yard sale not long ago, it's actually a decent model and I only paid $5
05:14 <Schism> My parents had a whole box of LPs. I don't think they had In the Court of the Crimson King, but they /did/ have the LP of 'Thick as a Brick', and I have to have listened to that like a thousand times.
05:15 <Schism> And /nice/. Can you still get needles for that?
05:15 <Thelema5> Yeah, it's not that old- they still sell the unit on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Sony-PSLX300USB-USB-Stereo-Turntable/dp/B0015HOFZI
05:15 <Thelema5> And yes, I got a hell of a deal.
05:15 <Schism> That is one helluva steal at $5.
05:16 <Thelema5> The guy thought it was broken because it wouldn't output sound to the audio plug- 2 minutes of playing with it at home revealed a switch hidden unter the urntable to toggle the output.
05:16 <Schism> Be honest, Thelema5. You have a horseshoe buried in your rear end, don't you?
05:17 <Schism> And a birthmark shaped like a four-leaf clover or something...
05:17 <Thelema5> Nah, it's just about being persistant. I've gone to a hundred yard sales looking for one (among other things on my wish list) and have walked away empty handed until then.
05:18 <Schism> Well. Even then, that was one heckuva lucky find.
05:19 <Thelema5> It was, I'm pretty pleased. My last big score was....
05:19 <Thelema5> (looking for photo)
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05:22 <Thelema5> http://i.imgur.com/aQLkvwx.png and http://i.imgur.com/Ys60VtM.jpg
05:22 * Snapai yawns
05:22 <Snapai> I am awake again @.x
05:23 <Thelema5> Found in a carboard box outside, under a firewood tarp, filled with old leaves and squirrel crap. Pay $5 for the lot.
05:23 <Thelema5> Took it all home, took it apart, cleaned everything, and left it in a room with a humidifier running for 24 hours. Reassembled it all, and it works to this day.
05:24 <Thelema5> A few of the games were shot, but not many.
05:24 <Schism> While you say that's mere perserverence, I call bull. You are INCREDIBLY lucky.
05:24 <Schism> Also, ooh, Warlords.
05:25 <Schism> My favourite Atari game ever.
05:25 <Thelema5> The folks didn't even have that stuff out for sale, I asked if they happened to have any old video games, and they poked around in their yard for a while before locating the box.
05:25 <Thelema5> Warlords was a great game.
05:26 <Schism> Impressive...! And yes, it still is. Pong, with style. :3
05:27 <Thelema5> And as you may have figured out by now, yard-sales / garage sales / rummage sales / tag sales are among my dorkier hobbies.
05:27 <Schism> I dunno, you seem to be profiting immensely thereby.
05:28 <Thelema5> I sometimes map out hours long routes to hit as many as I can. It's fun seeing what crap people have laying around. It also gives me an excuse to get out and explore.
05:29 <Schism> Seven birds with one stone, or something like that.
05:31 <Schism> If I weren't given to working during Saturday and Sunday, I'd probably hit a lot more garage sales in the neighborhood...
05:31 <Thelema5> I got two 6 gallon vintage fermenting vessels from the 1930's at one, I paid two dollars each for them. They routinely sell on ebay for $70 each, if you can find them. http://i.imgur.com/ES9Bsj5.jpg
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05:32 <Thelema5> They were filthy when I found them- the owners were using them as candle holders and they were covered in old wax and grime. I spend more than 3 hours cleaning and sanitizing them, and those are my main cider fermentors now.
05:34 <Schism> They were using /those/ as candle holders?! By the Nine, that's practically criminal.
05:35 <unicodingunicorn> using what may I ask?
05:35 <Thelema5> Quite. I would guess their hippie parents had started using them in the 70's, judging by how much wax had accumulated on them.
05:35 <Thelema5> Hiya, unicodingunicorn
05:35 <unicodingunicorn> heya!
05:35 <Thelema5> These beautiful fermenting vessel from the 1930's http://i.imgur.com/ES9Bsj5.jpg
05:35 <Schism> Wow. What did you use to actually clean the things, sulfuric acid?
05:36 <Thelema5> Bleach, boiling water, and a blend of phosphoric acid and dodecylbenzenesulfonic acid.
05:37 <unicodingunicorn> oh my that looks fancy
05:37 <Cepheid> "Everyone good? All fingers? All toes? Nice."
05:37 <Schism> I'm just trying to take a moment to envision that molecular chain, and I think I twisted my brain in doing so.
05:38 <Thelema5> :P
05:38 <Schism> And I have assembled aqua regia in my head.
05:39 <Schism> Actually, the mixture of those two acids seems like a cousin of aqua regia, come to think.
05:40 <Thelema5> It's actually a common industrial sanitizer used in food production facilies. The commercial preparation is sold as: http://www.northernbrewer.com/star-san
05:40 <Thelema5> *facilities
05:40 <Schism> Oh right, you've mentioned that a couple times!
05:40 <Thelema5> :P
05:41 <Thelema5> Mostly, the hard part of cleaning them was mechanical. A lot of scrubbing.
05:41 <Schism> I knew I'd seen it before, it just didn't click. Well. Though... bringing that into contact with bleach seems mildly problematic.
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05:42 <Thelema5> No, no... it was scrubbing with detergent and bleach, rinse with boiling water. The soak in sanitizer. Then rinse. Repeat.
05:42 <Thelema5> *then
05:43 <Schism> I had a suspicion that's what you did. Well, it seems like it did the trick... those look like they just came from the factory.
05:44 <Thelema5> Yup! I just know I'll wind up breaking them now that I've moved all my cider making stuff down into the (concrete block) cellar.
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05:45 <Schism> Well, I hope you can put that inevitability off for a couple more years, because those carboys look exceedingly useful.
05:47 <Thelema5> Cleaning and sanitizing that space to make my cider cellar was quite a bit more work than just the carboys- here's a before and after http://i.imgur.com/lR3kXRO.jpg
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05:48 * Schism whistles.
05:48 <Schism> That right there is a job and a half.
05:48 <Thelema5> All that stuff had been down there since before I bought the house 12 years ago. I never went in my cellar unless I have to reset a breaker.
05:48 <Schism> And now you have it set up as a laboratory.
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05:49 <Cepheid> How did your partner initially respond to the idea of using the basement for making booze?
05:49 * Schism cracks RIGHT up at Cepheid's question.
05:49 <Thelema5> We make cider together, and she was happy to get some space back in the studio.
05:49 <Cepheid> Schism: It's a valid question.
05:49 <Schism> Oh, I know, but I like the way you phrased it.
05:50 <Thelema5> It is. But we weren't using the spacefor anything.
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05:50 <Thelema5> *space for
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05:50 <Schism> Yea, might as well make use of the locale...
05:50 <Schism> That's one heckuva job you did on cleaning up the floor, too.
05:51 <Thelema5> Plus, the cooler, more regulated underground temps will allow me to produce cider in the summer now. :P
05:51 <Schism> Better than trying to work with 90 degree rooms.
05:52 <Thelema5> It took a full weekend, yeah. I hosed down the floor and all surfaces with 160 degree water I drew straight from the hot-water tank down there.
05:52 <Thelema5> Also mopped everything down with star san, lol
05:53 <Schism> From what I'm seeing, I'd not have been surprised if you took a steel wool implement to the floor.
05:54 <Schism> Just buff the damn thing out, sweep what remains, et cetera.
05:54 <Schism> Er, sorry. I don't mean to curse.
05:54 * Schism hangs his head.
05:54 <Thelema5> I actually didn't. Just a lot of scrubbing.
05:54 <Renny> Gasp, I am such offend
05:55 <Schism> Ridiculous amount of scrubbing, looks like.
05:55 <Renny> You should have a shame Schism :v
05:55 <Schism> I am. ;-;
05:55 <Thelema5> :P
05:55 <Renny> :PP
05:56 * Surreal_Nightmares scarfs on Thelema5
05:56 <Surreal_Nightmares> Hold me. I'm too tired to do anything.
05:56 * Thelema5 is now stylish
05:56 <Surreal_Nightmares> Woo, 0 seconds of sleep.
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05:57 <Schism> Randomly, Thelema5: Are your chives failing to grow properly this year?
05:57 * Snapai flail
05:57 <Snapai> I slept through my evening, now what D:
05:57 * Surreal_Nightmares holds Snapai still.
05:57 * Snapai writhe.
05:57 <Schism> Snapai: We be discussing culture. Well, types of culture...
05:58 <Schism> Horticulture, herbiculture, viticulture...
05:58 <Snapai> Aquaponics? :v
05:58 <Thelema5> Only because of lack of rain. My chives are very well established, though- been growing for 12 years. I usually just leave them alone until I need some, and there always seems to be more.
05:58 <Schism> And the like, yus.
05:58 <Snapai> I discovered that turmeric makes a much larger initial plant than ginger :x
05:59 <Snapai> They both sprouted the same time, from the same size roots. Ginger is maybe an inch tall, with three leaves on it.
05:59 <Schism> We only have a balcony garden, sadly... but our chives are taking a long, long time to grow.
05:59 <Snapai> Turmeric has two leaves and a third starting, reaching up to 18" tall.
05:59 <Schism> Nice!
05:59 <Thelema5> Yay!
06:00 <Schism> Our tomatoes and peppers are starting to get going... and the spinach is almost 7" at this point.
06:00 <Snapai> All this in a 12" deep 14"x9" aquaponics bin.
06:00 <Snapai> I got a tiny schefflera which had three little plants in the pot, so I rinsed them clean and stuck them in too.
06:01 <Cepheid> Hmm..
06:01 <Cepheid> I need a Lucifer Shell.
06:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1347 [ http://tinyurl.com/h4jhps5 ]
06:01 <Snapai> And I have a venus flytrap sitting in its pot on top of the hydroton - its soil is absorbing sufficient moisture through the base of the pot to keep it happy, without fertilizer-burning it.
06:01 <Thelema5> Awesome! I'm already harvesting green beans, and my cherry tomotoes will begin yielding next week. Unfortuntely, my peppers area dying.
06:01 <Thelema5> *are
06:01 <Snapai> I need a nerite shell.
06:01 <Snapai> Also the snail inside it ;p
06:02 <Snapai> Fishtank is healthy water, but I can hardly see into it except on the top because algae :p
06:02 <Schism> So, you need to set up an ecosystem.
06:02 <Snapai> Unfortunate side effect of aquaponics- the water condition you want is ok for the fish, but it looks like crap.
06:02 <Snapai> Coz you need to leave the nitrate in the water for the plants' benefit.
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06:03 <Snapai> I suppose I could turn the light off to the fishtank - the algae might get little enough light to die off and be converted back to nitrate..
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06:03 <Thelema5> What sort of fish? Tilapia?
06:04 <Snapai> Haha, no.
06:04 <Snapai> It's a 10 gallon aquaponics thing
06:04 <Thelema5> I've wanted to set up an aquaponic system for a while, but I hate seafood.
06:04 <Snapai> I have a single king betta
06:04 <Thelema5> Ah.
06:04 <Snapai> Unfortunately, only LFS that had snails they were kinda'....dead? And some of them looked fuzzy in the water. D:
06:05 <Thelema5> Yuck
06:05 <Schism> Kind of not the sort of thing you want to spend money on.
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06:06 * Schism listens to the song "In the Court of the Crimson King" again.
06:06 <Snapai> Schism - yeah, I suspect it would do more damage than benefit to my tank's ecosystem.
06:06 <Snapai> I got a snail from them before when they weren't all dead, but it died a week or so later.
06:07 <Snapai> They also sold me an oto....which unfortunately I fell for.
06:07 <Snapai> Otos are FRAGILE fish and need to be in a school. So it also failed to thrive =P
06:07 <Thelema5> Schism, have you seen the excellent film 'Children of Men'?
06:08 <Snapai> Fragile as in- you'll be lucky if they can survive transferring to your aquarium without dying within a few weeks.
06:08 <Schism> Thelema5: Yes, but haven't watched it for a couple years.
06:08 <Thelema5> Fantastic freaking movie, probably one of my favorites ever. There's a memorable scene set to that song which is just /perfect/.
06:08 <Schism> I remember that scene. :3
06:09 <Schism> The film itself was spectacular, and darnit, now I need to rewatch it, thanks. :S
06:10 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/3VbR6AM0ft8
06:10 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
06:10 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Children Of Men- Court of the Crimson King
06:12 <Schism> Yes, a magnificent scene and a perfect reference to how corrupt everything is.
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06:13 <Thelema5> The long format tracking shots in that film are simply beautiful.
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06:19 <Schism> Hahaha. John Scalzi writes, 'He allowed me to get out of the car, and when he did, I leaned in close and said, βthe people with me in the car have not stopped arguing since I picked them up. I need a break from them. Write me up, and please, take a long time doing it.β'
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06:24 <Schism> Anyway, Thelema5: It's a simply wonderful movie, one of the best I've seen.
06:24 <Snapai> I have never heard of that movie before, Schism, but I'll ahve to check it out o3o
06:24 <Schism> Children of Men? Yeah, it's really, really good.
06:25 <Snapai> Schism, I want to do something important. \D:/
06:25 <Snapai> Halp plz
06:25 <Schism> Sorry, can't help, I've never done anything important myself. :< Though maybe I can give a little bit of info...
06:26 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Anypony got Pokemon GO?
06:26 <Schism> I hear that's a thing... but I've yet to actually play it.
06:27 <Nicktendonick> Hear it's really fun
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06:29 * Snapai pokepokepokes Schism
06:29 <Schism> I haven't a tablet with mobile access anyway, so.
06:29 <Snapai> Help me take over the world.
06:30 * Schism boops Snapai in return, with some jalapeno poppers. "No, I'm already doing that on my own. I fear it's going to be a race."
06:30 <Snapai> But I actually have sort of a plan!
06:30 <Snapai> It involves making an animation studio.
06:32 <Snapai> I need help getting people invested in actually making said studio.
06:32 <Snapai> Whether it's artists or backers or clients or whatever.
06:32 <Schism> Hmm... not sure if I'd be of much use there. Certainly I could mess about with FLStudio...
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06:33 <Snapai> It's not the art I have issues with :p
06:34 <Snapai> It's the networking/community building side of thigns.
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06:34 <Schism> But hmm. Well, it'd be my pleasure to provide a sort of a signal boost, what little I can.
06:34 <Snapai> Like. An animation studio needs SO much more than just talent- it needs to fill the business equation, and then talent can be gotten easily.
06:35 <Schism> And in that sense, there has to be an acknowledgement that said studio exists...
06:36 <Snapai> As in: a business needs customers to buy the services it sells for more than it costs to make them.
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06:37 <Snapai> I am a decent animator, I know enough about animation production to put all the pieces together for projects. And I know how to work with other artists in order to make a project larger than myself.
06:37 <Snapai> (since I can't do everything, and am CERTAINLY not the best at everything or anything)
06:37 <Schism> So getting the signal out, that's the primary goal?
06:37 <Snapai> It's more complicated than that.
06:38 <Snapai> What I need is marketing, not advertising, I guess?
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06:39 <Snapai> I need to be able to convince people with the means to do so, to buy what I have to sell.
06:39 <Snapai> At the same time, I need a way to convince other artists that this is a Real Thing That Can Happen, not just a pipe dream =P
06:39 <Schism> Ahh. Less convincing them that you actually exist, more convincing them to part with their money - or, in the case of fellow artists, their time and effort.
06:40 <Snapai> Right
06:40 <Snapai> Like- one way to bootstrap this would be to pitch an animated series.
06:40 <Snapai> To kickstarter, for example.
06:40 <Thelema5> You could try Shark Tank XD
06:41 <Snapai> But I really want to embrace the concept of workplace democracy, and so I haven't come up with ideas for an animated series, coz I want people to join the team with the idea of co-creating the project, rather than making MY project awesome.
06:41 <Thelema5> If you have a viable business model that is.
06:41 <Snapai> Absolutely note
06:41 <Snapai> *not
06:41 <Schism> Which I can imagine would be viable - you certainly have the talent - but would be a long-term situation which is extremely difficult to get folks together for...
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06:41 <Snapai> Shark tank is anathema to the whole concept of bootstrapping a cooperative @_@
06:42 <Thelema5> Heh.
06:42 <Snapai> Shark Tank is venture capital. Basically, they offer you money at payday-lending rates, in exchange for owning a big chunk of your company, that if they don't like what you're doing, can sell off to someone else (or possibly fire you)
06:42 <Thelema5> And it works, for viable businesses.
06:42 <Schism> Frankly, the phrase 'shark tank' seems appropriate. They'll chew up anything you propose.
06:43 * Thelema5 is a capitalist
06:43 * Snapai stabs Thelema5
06:43 <Thelema5> O.o
06:43 <Snapai> eeevil! :v
06:43 <Thelema5> That's a bit inappropriate, don't you think?
06:44 <Snapai> It was a friendly stab. >:|
06:44 <Thelema5> Huh.
06:44 * Snapai flail!
06:44 <Schism> So let's see. What you're proposing is a sort of animated series which requires the participation of a few other folks - and in order to produce it, you need a few fellow animators, at least one or two musicians, as well as the standard team of writers and producers.
06:44 <Snapai> What I'm proposing is a *pitch* of an animated series.
06:44 <Snapai> In order to kickstart the pilot.
06:44 <Schism> And everyone would need to be on board with the central idea.
06:44 <Thelema5> And they'll all work for free, I guess?
06:45 <Schism> Thelema5, please stop being disingenuous.
06:45 <Snapai> No they'll work for membership in the cooperative. :v
06:45 <Schism> I mean, really. :P
06:45 <Thelema5> No, I'm wondering where the revenue is coming from.
06:45 <Snapai> From the kickstarter.
06:45 <Schism> That's where the Kickstarter comes in, yeah.
06:45 <Thelema5> How do people buy groceries?
06:45 <Snapai> And merchandising.
06:45 <Thelema5> Ah ha.
06:46 <Schism> Of course, in order to create such a Kickstarter, you need to have the idea set out and a few things set up ahead of time.
06:47 <Snapai> See, Thelema5, it's okay for an artist to ask another artist to work for free, but when business people do it it's a little... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca0hvVLWIAApxS6.jpg
06:48 <Snapai> In the art world we call it collaboration. ;)
06:48 <Schism> Collaboration is a wonderful thing, and perfectly grand. Snapai, do you have an initial idea, a 'big picture' sort of thing, an elevator pitch to get folks to join your team?
06:49 <Snapai> For the business yes, for the kickstarter project no.
06:49 <Thelema5> :P Business is /also/ an art.
06:49 <Snapai> It's an animation studio worker cooperative - a studio owned and operated collectively by its member-employees.
06:49 <Schism> Start with that. You can't just say, 'this team is going to be awesome', you have to have a good first project, a starting point.
06:50 <Schism> That will get your coworkers, your fellow artists, interested in starting. Once you have /that/, you can move onto other goals.
06:50 <Snapai> That's what I've been talking to people about! @_@
06:51 <Schism> Come up with an elevator pitch! Something you can explain in thirty seconds, some idea for a story that might actually draw talent TO you.
06:51 <Snapai> Most people I know worth their salt seem to think the only way to make money in this industry is to become a Youtube superstar, or get a job with Nickelodeon or Disney. Then they get overworked until they burn out.
06:52 <Schism> Okay, then. Try this. Ask folks you talk to about what THEIR pet project would be. What sort of cartoon do they want to create? What sort of thing are they interested in doing?
06:52 <Snapai> Cooperatives can operate happier and more nimbly than their corporate counterparts, when they are established. And they grow organically.
06:52 <Snapai> Which is why this is my project for taking over the world. :B
06:52 <Schism> And that's great. But you need to eventually have an actual project you're going to be creating.
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06:53 <Schism> Cooperative - that's perfect, and I really want to SEE what that looks like - but it's pointless unless you have some goal, and you need to get everyone pointed in that direction.
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06:55 <Thelema5> Oh hi, Ali!
06:55 <Schism> It doesn't even have to be anything serious. Imagine a cola executive who wants to take over the world by putting mind-control chemicals into his drinks, and the Heavy Water Team needs to stop him. Or something equally ridiculous!
06:55 * Ali wavies and curls into a corner for painful headaches.
06:56 * Schism snugs an Ali, and offers some coffee and aspirin...?
06:56 * Ali blehs at coffee and can't take pills.
06:57 * Schism frowns, and simply offers some Buckley's, then.
06:57 <Schism> (It's a liquid syrup primarily derived from Eucalyptus and tastes like tree sap and death. But darned if it's not effective.)
06:57 <Thelema5> Snapai, who is going to clean the toilets in this business? Who is balancing the books?
06:57 <Ali> I'd rather not taste death
06:58 * Thelema5 was at a wake a few hours ago. I'm done with death for the day
06:58 <Snapai> o.O
06:59 <Snapai> Thelema5, that....is usually contracted out in ALL businesses and startups.
06:59 <Snapai> Not just cooperatives.
07:00 <Snapai> But good job attempting to strawman the idea. :p
07:00 <Thelema5> But again- it's contracted out for money. You say that " it's okay for an artist to ask another artist to work for free", but I doubt you'll have the same luck with the maid.
07:00 * Ali throws straws at Snapai. She doing it right?
07:01 <Snapai> Oh you mean during the bootstrapping phase?
07:01 <Snapai> I would presume each person would clean their own bathrooms.
07:01 <Snapai> Unless they like living in filth.
07:01 <Snapai> I clean my bathroom when it gets dirty <.<
07:01 <Thelema5> O.o
07:02 <Snapai> As for bookkeeping, typically projects have someone who does that, and they get equal share in the work. You don't JUST get artist-only people in this sort of endeavor. Even Double Rainboom had someone managing the spreadsheets o3o
07:02 <Schism> Gotta account for your things. o3o
07:03 <Snapai> I will be happy to use a freshbooks or quickbooks account and do that sort of stuff, if no-one else shows up where that's their thing. :p
07:03 <Snapai> Or even a shared google spreadsheet.
07:03 <rela> i greet each and everyone here in this channel
07:03 <Snapai> Seriously, bathrooms, for an entrepreneurial endeavor that will start online?
07:03 <rela> may your day be great
07:04 <Schism> On a project like this, it'll probably be a bit more complicated than most, especially if you're creating a cooperative amongst numerous countries.
07:05 <Snapai> Well for tax and pay purposes, yeah. That sorta stuff will involve working with a CPA and possibly a business lawyer, but only once money gets involved.
07:05 <Thelema5> Have you ever actually worked with a group of people in a professional enviroment? If there's no revenue, there's no pay. No pay = no work. People gotta eat, regardless of your business model. It can be fun to think about pulling people together under a common ideal, but realistically it's not sustainable until you have a product, a market, and a revenue flow.
07:06 <Snapai> Of course.
07:07 <Snapai> That's why Linux and Wikipedia don't exist.
07:07 <Snapai> 9_9
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07:08 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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07:08 <Snapai> Also why no-one who wasn't already filthy rich ever started anything in the history of mankind.
07:09 <Thelema5> Wikipedia exists from user donations because they have a huge user base- that's their revenue stream. Do you think a small animation studio can do the same?
07:09 <Snapai> That's not how it started.
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07:09 <Snapai> And we're talking about bootstrapping an animation studio.
07:09 <Thelema5> It started with free crowd-sourced labor.
07:10 <Snapai> It will of course have funds once operating.
07:10 <Thelema5> Not working talent.
07:10 <Snapai> Oh there's no such thing as free labor
07:10 <Snapai> If there's no pay, there's no work.
07:10 <Snapai> I know coz Thelema5 told me.
07:11 <ConfusionRift> I would say there is free labor. But there will always be some sort of cost.
07:11 <Snapai> Right. I never said I was demanding people work a regular schedule to get this thing bootstrapped. o3o
07:11 <Thelema5> People will only give until their belly is empty.
07:11 <Snapai> Says the hungry ghost.
07:11 <Snapai> It has to start as a collaborative project for the mutual benefit of those involved.
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07:12 <Snapai> As we collectively produce something of value, and can leverage that, we can pay ourselves back for our initial investment of time and effort, as well as save additional revenue to make future work less burdensome.
07:13 <Thelema5> Heh, good luck with it.
07:13 <Snapai> As every person who ever started a business ever did. The only difference here is that everyone is expected to share in building it, rather than one person with the resources starting it then owning everyone else's profits.
07:13 <Thelema5> Someone in china will do it for pennies on your dollar.
07:13 <Thelema5> Because labor there is cheaper than tech.
07:14 <Snapai> And theirs will suck, as all the dreamworks knockoffs that show up on Netflix do.
07:16 <Muffin_Spectacles> Well, Dremworks knockoffs are meant to prey on the stupid persons who don't care about animation quality. You know, like Grandparents.
07:17 <Muffin_Spectacles> They'll expect Grandma in line to say, "Oh! 'The Little Panda' for only $3? The kids will LOVE this!"
07:17 <ConfusionRift> Hahahaaa!
07:18 <Snapai> Yeah. Sides which, Asia doesn't typically compete on animated series. They offer outsourcing options that make it cheaper for the big studios, but that's still a different property. o.o
07:18 <Thelema5> But dreamworks is an enormous international corporate entity with relatioships with Paramount, who signed a $1.5 billion deal to produce films with India's Reliance ADA Group. Reliance provided $325M of equity to fund recreating DreamWorks into SKG into DreamWorks Studios, an independent entity. Clark Hallren, former Managing Director of the Entertainment Industries group of J. P. Morgan Securities, and Alan J. Levine of J. P. Morgan Entertainme
07:18 <Thelema5> Hardly the collective you were discussing.
07:18 <Snapai> Go drunk, Thelema5, you're home.
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07:19 <Snapai> At this point, you're talking about how to introduce properties to an internet audience, and you really don't know what you're talking about.
07:19 <Muffin_Spectacles> Dreamworks has been struggling to even stay relevant it feels. To me, Illumination is what Dreamworks and Blue Sky were doing, but the Despicalbe Me Franchise pushed Illumination into the 'mediocre audience loving' realms.
07:20 <Muffin_Spectacles> Though once Universal bought up Dreamworks, I had a feeling they'd try to bring Shrek back, and in recent months, word is that's in the cards. Shrek is to DW what Mickey is to Disney: no way Universal could let a property like that just sit.
07:20 <Snapai> A half dozen people can make a short that goes crazy on the internet, and generate - maybe not as much buzz and revenue as the next Pixar short, but proportionally enough for those people.\
07:20 <ConfusionRift> The Little Panda, Kun-Fug Mermaid, Shriek, Tin Dwarf, Respectable Me, Stward Big...
07:21 <Muffin_Spectacles> Though you want pain? one word: Ratatoing.
07:21 * ConfusionRift pukes oil... maybe.
07:21 <Thelema5> :P
07:21 <ConfusionRift> Oh look, it's cooking oil. What a ripoff!
07:22 * Thelema5 fries some flautas
07:22 <Muffin_Spectacles> I remember when Blue Sky came on the scene, I was ready to support them, but after 'Robots,' I wrote them off, and Ice Age 2 kept me away...well, except for Horton Hears a Who.
07:23 <Thelema5> <Snapai> As we collectively produce something of value, and can leverage that, we can pay ourselves back - Great! Do that, I'd love to see it.
07:23 <Muffin_Spectacles> I think Blue Sky's problem is, they can adapt pretty well, but when coming up with their own properties, they don't go far enough. "The Peanuts Movie" worked in a way, because you had Schulz's family and a number of people who cared about the property, not willing to have Snoopy speak, or Charlie Brown get into a rap battle.
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07:23 <ConfusionRift> I did enjoy Robots. I just wish they did more with it.
07:23 <Muffin_Spectacles> ConfusionRift: The visuals were what drew me in...but the story, yeah, it was so pedestrian.
07:24 <ConfusionRift> It was okay. Just kinda predictable, but could had been worse.
07:24 <Muffin_Spectacles> That to me is Blue Sky's great strength: they really can build worlds, like their Seussian research and design on Horton.
07:24 <ConfusionRift> But I agree that world needed more. So much more.
07:25 <ConfusionRift> They made a whole civilization of mechanical crazy contraptions, and 90% was background.
07:25 <Muffin_Spectacles> ConfusionRift: I felt the dark underbelly and Madame Gasket had potential, this darkness that the average robot had no idea of.
07:25 <ConfusionRift> Agree.
07:25 <Muffin_Spectacles> Robots almost felt like they were trying to be frenetic/kinetic like Hercules with all the puns.
07:26 <Muffin_Spectacles> I know Blue Sky attempted to do their own thing with 'Epic,' but after seeing it, it also didn't go far enough to be anything more than a CG rehash of 'Ferngully' at times.
07:27 <Muffin_Spectacles> I'm also hearing Illumination's 'The Secret Life of Pets' is like 'Toy Story,' but without the heart to make you really care.
07:28 <ConfusionRift> Well, so much for that curiosity.
07:28 <Coco|Mobile> Still funny
07:28 <ConfusionRift> Then again, I expected it.
07:28 <Snapai> Thelema5 at any rate, if I can get any sort of group with any reputation for making anything at all, then we should be able to get a side revenue of advertising or music video work.
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07:28 <ConfusionRift> A Toy Story, but more topical.
07:28 <Muffin_Spectacles> ConfusionRift: Well, we all knew you were going to see it for that Minions short. :P
07:28 <Snapai> Where people say "You make cool stuff, can we give you money to make our cool stuff?"
07:28 <Snapai> But they don't say that until they see stuff you've done that looks like it's worth paying.
07:28 <ConfusionRift> Wait waiwaiwait... I'm no Minions fodder. :P
07:28 <Muffin_Spectacles> Though there always is the downside of business, known as 'Faster, Better, Cheaper.'
07:29 <ConfusionRift> ^
07:29 <ConfusionRift> My most hated three.
07:29 <Snapai> Oh yes. Pick two.
07:29 <Muffin_Spectacles> My animation internship supervisor told me about it, how companies want all three, but you can never have all three. So you choose 2, and forego the third.
07:29 <ConfusionRift> Remember the triad. Cost, Quality, and Time.
07:30 <Schism> Choose any two.
07:30 <ConfusionRift> Which do you like the most.
07:30 <Schism> Time, Cost, Quality.
07:30 <Coco|Mobile> Cost and quality
07:30 <Schism> In the case of Microsoft: Pick any one.
07:30 <Thelema5> Snapai, awesome. Let me know when your staff has a living wage.
07:31 <Thelema5> Or you, for that matter.
07:31 <ConfusionRift> Actually, it's one. Want things fast? Will cost more and reduce quality. Want things done right? Will cost as well, and will take more time. Want things cheap? Will probably take longer, and quality is down the drain.
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07:32 <Snapai> Nice thing about the cooperative structure is, it eliminates both the issues of unions and capitalists from business.
07:32 <Muffin_Spectacles> It still upsets me that most people assume that effects and animation can be done really quickly. WEll, it can be, if you don't really care about qality.
07:32 <Coco|Mobile> Take a look at the new Top Cat film
07:32 <Muffin_Spectacles> Like people will ask voice actors about what they did. "Well, I came in 3 times to read lines, and did 2 of those in my PJ's.
07:32 <ConfusionRift> You could, but where's the heart in it?
07:32 <Thelema5> Animation is hard!
07:32 <Snapai> The unions want every benefit no matter how much it costs, the capitalists want every profit no matter how much it screws the workers.
07:33 <ConfusionRift> Also, animation is very expensive and time consuming.
07:33 <Muffin_Spectacles> ConfusionRift: But I heard Top Cat went over big in Mexico, which I guess is a bit like China: they're all about the movie but don't care about story?
07:33 <Snapai> Cooperatives basically are telling the union "Okay, you want to run everything? Fine, balance the books too."
07:34 <Muffin_Spectacles> Snapai: Reminds me of the baker's union trying to play hardball with the Hostess company a few years ago. And Hostess just basically said: "you know what? WE're shutting down!"
07:34 <ConfusionRift> Muffin_Spectacles: You have no idea how much it happens there. There's a reason why in our Walmart near the border the budget movies are always empty.
07:34 <Snapai> You can have your union but you have to run the company too.
07:34 <Snapai> Muffin_Spectacles, it's actually neat how many cooperatives were started from situations like that
07:34 <ConfusionRift> You have to remember that some can't (or just won't) afford the AAA titles. So they have to settle with a bunch of knock-offs.
07:35 <Snapai> Company and workers get in a squabble, or company decides to shutdown, and the workers (typically ones with a long career there who have some houses to borrow against or whatever) put up the funds to buy the factory (it's historically been factories) from em.
07:35 <Snapai> And then basically resume doing business, except EVERYONE is happier.
07:35 <Muffin_Spectacles> I see that China's biggest moneymaking film 'The Mermaid' is out for rent. I'm curious to see it and if it could possibly have crossed over ( I doubt it).
07:35 <Snapai> Like....when Kshama Sawant was talking about encouraging workers in Seattle to seize the means of production from Boeing. She almost certainly wasn't talking about a riot and stealing property.
07:36 <Muffin_Spectacles> Snapai: Well, Hostess just went private, and didn't go back with the union. They then were like, 'if you guys want back in, you can come, but for what we will pay, no bargaiuning.'
07:36 <Snapai> More likely, Boeing was threatening to walk out of Seattle and build a plant anywhere....but if all the factory workers and engineers quit and bought the hardware, that's both the labor and brain necessary to make an employee owned aerospace company there, with the facilities to do it.
07:37 <ConfusionRift> Not really.
07:38 <ConfusionRift> They would have to jumpstart another company.
07:38 <Snapai> I mean that's what she was actually suggesting I believ.e
07:38 <Snapai> I would have loved to see that.
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07:39 <Snapai> (And actually, Seattle could have helped bootstrap that new company, coz they were paying all kinds of breaks and benefits to keep Boeing from leaving. If they no longer had to deal with that, they'd have quite a bit left over)
07:39 <Thelema5> ... I was under the impression that the general rules for this channel (rule #6) prohibits the discussion of religion or politics...
07:40 <ConfusionRift> Where's the religion and the politics?
07:40 <Coco|Mobile> Is this politics?
07:40 <ConfusionRift> We're discussing business management.
07:40 <Muffin_Spectacles> You mean how the Equestria Games infringed on Unicorn rights for the right to keep their magic without having it stifled during sporting events?
07:41 <Thelema5> Economic policy is certainly a political discussion
07:41 <Thelema5> Especially when pertaining to certain regions.
07:41 <Muffin_Spectacles> But still, it is 141 in the morning where I am, and usually this room is dead. I've come in here and noone is talking.
07:41 <Snapai> picard_facepalm.gif
07:42 <Thelema5> O.o
07:42 <Muffin_Spectacles> Of course, we could always fall back on talk about how any male charactes that take an interest in the MAne 6 in Equestria Girls, are pure scum.
07:42 <ConfusionRift> ...huh? The laws and policies in regards to business planning and their economics? I'm not sure I can follow. But okay. The business discussion is overflowing anyways.
07:43 <Muffin_Spectacles> My bank did the most cruel thing imaginable. The raised my credit card limit.
07:44 <ConfusionRift> But you know what that means, right, Thelema5? That means that ANY discussion in regards to business is strictly forbidden.
07:44 <Muffin_Spectacles> I could actually fulfill my dream and travel to China...but my brain has to be logicak.
07:44 <Thelema5> I'm here to talk about ponies.
07:45 <Coco|Mobile> You have to live beyond your means out banks will never respect you.
07:45 <Coco|Mobile> *or
07:46 <Thelema5> !link socks
07:46 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/999942
07:46 <ConfusionRift> Alright. Let's talk about ponies.
07:46 <Coco|Mobile> So PokΓ©mon Go huh?
07:46 <Coco|Mobile> Those servers keep crashing
07:46 <ConfusionRift> I wonder whyyyyyyy.
07:46 <Thelema5> I would love to see a ponified version of pokemon go
07:46 * ConfusionRift keeps biting cables.
07:47 <rela> this might be a dumb question but: does a RTC in a pc have any other benefits besides keeping the time while the device is turned off?
07:47 <ConfusionRift> Pony Encounters? Yes!
07:47 <Coco|Mobile> I don't mind too much, but I did miss out on a Polywhirl
07:47 <Thelema5> That game is dominating headlines right now.
07:47 <Coco|Mobile> They've delayed the EU release which is sad
07:48 <Thelema5> :(
07:48 <Thelema5> I fear that kids are going to get hurt playing it.
07:48 <Coco|Mobile> Oh definitely
07:48 <Muffin_Spectacles> I will admit so far this season, season 6 has not really impressed me, and i've found my interest, waning a bit.
07:48 * Coco|Mobile may have walked into a tree branch
07:49 <Thelema5> I've found it lacking too, Muffin_Spectacles
07:49 <Muffin_Spectacles> It's had its little moments, but I haven't had a full episode just knocki me for a loop.
07:49 <ConfusionRift> rela: It's very crucial the system can keep track of timing, even when there's no connectivity. Also, the PC will give you a friendly, not annoying, warning when the battery is out or gone.
07:49 <Thelema5> There were a few standout episodes, but most were lackluster
07:50 <Thelema5> I really enjoyed Flutter Brutter
07:50 <rela> ConfusionRift: i am thinking about the raspberry pi which does not have any rtc and still works fine (connectivity and configured NTP needed of course)
07:50 <Muffin_Spectacles> Thelema5: It was one of the 'better' ones, though it does almost make one think Fluttershy is a bit of a hypocrite.
07:50 <Muffin_Spectacles> Thelema5: She tells her brother to 'get a job,' but, what does SHE do for a job?
07:51 <Thelema5> She raises animals a adopts them out
07:51 <Thelema5> *and
07:51 <Thelema5> Seems to pay the bills, at least.
07:51 <ConfusionRift> There you have it. Raspberry Pi is meant to forgo most of the hardware requirements (like a thin client), especially when dependencies are modular.
07:51 <Muffin_Spectacles> Thelema5: Well, Fluttershy to me seemed to scream 'non-profit.'
07:52 <Thelema5> Regardless, she has a place to stay and food to eat.
07:52 <ConfusionRift> She could work locally as pest control or something of that nature.
07:53 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and she has to feed her animals too.
07:53 <Coco|Mobile> She's got chicken eggs to sell right?
07:53 <ConfusionRift> She does have a coop.
07:53 <Muffin_Spectacles> i will admit that the situation with zephyr reminded me of an ex_gf< who attempted to take her brother in and help him get back on his feet>
07:54 <Thelema5> Non-profit doesn't mean "losing money"... it just means that all the revenue is reinvested into the business... includng employee salaries.
07:54 <ConfusionRift> No gain, and no lose.
07:54 <Thelema5> Yep.
07:54 <Thelema5> She seems to be doing okay for herself.
07:54 <Muffin_Spectacles> My ex got her brother to move out of their parent's house where he did nothing, and she attempted to help him find a job, but he ended up usually just going to the casinos on th e weekend, seeming to think he could strike it rich.
07:55 <Muffin_Spectacles> Though the Hearth's Warming Tale ep is still an enigma to me. It just doesn't push my buttons like most. It feels like it's too peddesstrian.
07:56 <Thelema5> I didn't care for it either.
07:57 <Muffin_Spectacles> Thelema5: Plus people were going nuts for the songs, but they don't relly seem to have a hook that made any of them memorable.
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07:58 <Thelema5> Were there songs? I seem to remember one or two.... /me goes all derpy eyed/
07:59 <Muffin_Spectacles> Thelema5: It was a musical-based episode, but the rhythms just didn't seem to make them stand out to me. I think mostjust got super-excited because, 'Luna sang!'
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08:00 <Muffin_Spectacles> Thelema5: Most of the songs felt like if they had pulled back by one syllable per line of song, it might have been good.
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08:01 <Thelema5> Luna's song was really the only thing which stood out for me.
08:03 <Thelema5> Starlight Glimmer was /awesome/ in the episode, though
08:03 <Muffin_Spectacles> Thelema5: Though in a sense, the Trixie episode has some merits, but for being somewhat logical, Starlight ignoring the dinner really seemed like a bad move.
08:03 <Muffin_Spectacles> Thelema5: Starlight ignoring an important dinner like that, was almost like one ignoring the second part of a job interview.
08:04 <Thelema5> :P
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08:06 <ConfusionRift> "Attend to a tea party with the Princess? Screw that. Going to a magic show."
08:06 <Snapai> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwuCQ3u2N_A
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08:10 <Muffin_Spectacles> ConfusionRift: Yeah. I mean, this wasn't a simple 'hi how are you,' this is a meeting where your Mentor is being seen by her Mentor, and they're going to see how your lessons are going.
08:10 <Muffin_Spectacles> ConfusionRift: It really doesn't look goot when you speak so well about your student, and then...they don't show up on time, or at all!
08:11 <ConfusionRift> In Starlight's defense... Celestia didn't seem to want to be there.
08:11 <ConfusionRift> I don't know. He impatience irked me a bit.
08:11 <ConfusionRift> *Her
08:12 <Muffin_Spectacles> ConfusionRift: Well, it is Ponyville. It is the Iowa of the pony world, compared to the Washington DC of Canterlot.
08:13 <ConfusionRift> It felt a bit childish, really. Then again, I would be bored to death if I was to attend the such.
08:14 <ConfusionRift> Would be funny if Celestia rescheduled another boring dinner with an old student, just to land in the same. :P
08:19 <Muffin_Spectacles> Though I still stand by my thought that Trixie is the Boba Fett of the universe.
08:19 <Muffin_Spectacles> She has a small role, and suddenly, she's seen as The Greatest Background pony of all!
08:21 <Muffin_Spectacles> Well, I'm off. Got places to go in the morning.
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08:24 <ConfusionRift> I was gonna say that I thought that was the case already.
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08:44 <ConfusionRift> Hallooo.
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11:33 <LunaticHell> gooooooood morning, equestria.
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11:36 <LunaticHell> Wait, I forgot, you're that gal that isn't intrested in idle banter, is that correct?
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11:41 <unicodingunicorn> /me idly banters LunaticHell
11:41 <LunaticHell> Uni-cod!
11:41 * LunaticHell hugs unicodingunicorn
11:41 <LunaticHell> Finally someone who apprichiates the small things in life.
11:41 * unicodingunicorn squeaks and gently snugs back
11:41 <LunaticHell> ...like small chat!
11:42 <DARK> helo
11:42 <LunaticHell> hi dark
11:43 <LunaticHell> So, what's up?
11:52 * fyrepony yawns and tugs LunaticHell
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12:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #550 [ http://tinyurl.com/j26n7h9 ]
12:03 * LunaticHell hugd fyrepony "hi"
12:05 <LunaticHell> fyrepony: How do you do?
12:06 <fyrepony> meh karma must be against me
12:06 <LunaticHell> How so?
12:07 <fyrepony> my house got broken into, my sister got teased...well i took care of teasing part but still
12:08 <LunaticHell> I'd rank the broken in house higher, but then again teasing isn't actually very telling of exactly what happened.
12:09 <LunaticHell> Well, what's missing?
12:09 <LunaticHell> I hope you already reported it. o. o
12:11 * LunaticHell boops fyrepony
12:11 <fyrepony> LunaticHell: 2000οΏ½ tv
12:12 <LunaticHell> Owch. o. <
12:12 <LunaticHell> Well errr...
12:12 <LunaticHell> chin up?
12:12 <LunaticHell> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBgKP5erzWQ
12:12 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Sinking Ships
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12:28 <LunaticHell> Hello Pinki Pi
12:28 <Pi> Ahoy
12:28 <LunaticHell> How is the you doing?
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12:32 <Pi> finishing a paintinf
12:33 <LunaticHell> oooooh fancy~
12:35 * unicodingunicorn flops back in
12:46 <Bubs> `qqqw3s2wwww2wq2wwqqwweede3wrreertgttttttttttttttttttyhyt6tttt7yyyyyyyyyujuuuuuuuuuikuikoooooooop-;pppppp[='[-[[[[[[[[]==][]
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12:53 <LunaticHell> Bubs: Cat got your board?
12:59 <Fn> Le chat a ta planche
12:59 <Fn> Actually wrong
12:59 <Fn> That would be the general "board"
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13:00 <Fn> "Le chat a ton klavier" would be the meaning with "keyboard" in mind
13:00 <Fn> LunaticHell, could be the butt-chatting too
13:01 <Fn> I have sent SMS and chatted like that before
13:01 <LunaticHell> But chat? So like...a fart?
13:01 <Fn> Nuuu
13:02 <Fn> You walk with your phone in the pocket and the touch screen gets activated by your butt typing all kinds of nonsence
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13:02 <LunaticHell> What sane person puts the cell in the butt?
13:02 <LunaticHell> ...wait
13:04 <LunaticHell> Bad phrasing. o. o
13:08 <hawthornbunny> Too late that's your IRC quote now
13:09 <LunaticHell> What what? In the IRC quote.
13:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: SFM: Doors 2 [ http://tinyurl.com/zo7w5dg ]
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13:55 <Fn> I have spotted a calligraphic crime
13:55 <Fn> http://imgur.com/okIRBgr
13:55 <Fn> I hate when people can't distinguish their u and n in their handwriting
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13:57 <Fn> My mother does that. But. But at least she puts a line over n and under u to help people distinguish between the two
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14:27 <fyrepony> http://behind-space.deviantart.com/art/Request-Romance-Heart-and-Honey-Ella-555915057
14:28 <Verandure> Cute
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14:32 <FN_away> http://imgur.com/b4NTZEh
14:32 <FN_away> This is sad
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15:00 * unicodingunicorn noses LunaticHell
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15:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Wave 17 My Little Pony Blindbag Ponies Revealed! [ http://tinyurl.com/z3xq47p ]
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15:45 <Divide> Those are some very sparkly variants.
15:46 <Divide> And some weird ones. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wXAK4haIP1s/V4DuOuXLVtI/AAAAAAACm1k/GqfwX5xz350nnwhqgNFuMjatdRsgjXOQACLcB/s320/20.jpg
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15:50 <Coco_Nut> Divide, something went wrong with the painting process and to save money they made it official. XD
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15:56 <Cepheid> !log
15:56 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
15:57 <Cepheid> I'm gonna have to go with Coco_Nut on this one. Some of those are painting processes gone wrong.
16:00 <Coco_Nut> Every problem is an opportunity XD
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16:11 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/p8bAwpV
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16:29 <Divide> "It's just that... well... when you're covered in bright yellow, to other ponies, you're a beacon of Don't Hurt Me. And to monsters? Also a beacon, which generally comes across as Open Package To Access Flavor."
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16:58 <LisaSquarePants> hello
16:58 <LunaticHell> Hi lis.
16:58 <LisaSquarePants> hey my name is red now!\
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16:59 <LunaticHell> K, hi Red.
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16:59 * LisaSquarePants yay's a little bit ''still better than green'' :P
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16:59 * LisaSquarePants giggles
16:59 * LunaticHell faceplams.
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16:59 <Pony_63787> oh noez
16:59 <LunaticHell> For a second I really thought you meant it literally.
17:00 <LisaSquarePants> what's wrong?
17:00 <LisaSquarePants> nah
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17:00 <LisaSquarePants> like youre green
17:00 <LisaSquarePants> and i'm red
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17:00 <LunaticHell> k
17:00 <ZeroParadox> I did a McSilly is what's wrong
17:01 <Tracer> What kinda mcsilly?
17:01 <ZeroParadox> The kinda McSilly that involves forgetting IRC commands
17:01 <LunaticHell> There was a changling in here that pretended to be you, ZeroParadox.
17:01 <ZeroParadox> Why would anyone pretend to be me
17:01 <LunaticHell> Ask the changeling. o. o
17:01 <ZeroParadox> That doesn't sound like a productive use of time
17:01 * LunaticHell hugs Tracer, by the way.
17:02 <ZeroParadox> They should really stop, for their own good
17:02 <LisaSquarePants> how do you know it wasent him?
17:02 <LunaticHell> Him?
17:02 <LunaticHell> Doomy?
17:02 <LunaticHell> Doomie*
17:02 <Cepheid> I need to discuss with my cat about shedding over humans.
17:02 * Cepheid is covered in itchy.
17:02 <LisaSquarePants> outch
17:02 <LisaSquarePants> my cat does that too
17:02 <LisaSquarePants> if it doesent want me to pet him
17:03 <Cepheid> Mine sheds all over the place. Both of them do, in fact.
17:03 <Cepheid> It results in large clumps of fur just sitting on the floor.
17:03 <LunaticHell> That is one...
17:04 <LunaticHell> ...furry problem.
17:04 <FruitNibbler> Uhm, comb them with the fur glove?
17:04 <FruitNibbler> lol LunaticHell
17:04 <MisterRogers> Well there goes my entry into this conversation
17:04 <Cepheid> Fur glove might work with Tizzy.
17:04 <Cepheid> Not so much with Spitfire.
17:04 <Cepheid> He doesn't like being brushed, for some weird reason.
17:04 <LunaticHell> Oh right, the vomit cat.
17:05 <Cepheid> Vomit cat dislikes brushing.
17:05 <ZeroParadox> That sounds like an adorable combination
17:05 <MisterRogers> Context?
17:05 * LunaticHell giggles
17:05 <LisaSquarePants> iewww
17:05 <MisterRogers> Nevermind...
17:05 <LunaticHell> I still remember. xP
17:05 <Cepheid> MisterRogers: My cat likes to gorge himself on food.
17:05 <Cepheid> It's a known problem with this breed of cat.
17:05 <FruitNibbler> Ah the food type
17:05 <MisterRogers> I regret asking.
17:05 <FruitNibbler> We had a dog like that
17:05 <Cepheid> The end-result is vomiting due to over-eating.
17:05 <MisterRogers> Pffff
17:06 <Cepheid> Including from seven feet up.
17:06 <FruitNibbler> One day my stepdad left a dog food bag in the hallway (accessible to dogs)
17:06 <Cepheid> That can only lead to unhappiness, FruitNibbler.
17:06 <FruitNibbler> She tore the bag open and ate, ate, ate then vomited and then ate again
17:07 <Cepheid> Yep, sounds about right.
17:07 <FruitNibbler> As we came back she made several piles of "processed dog food and was eating again
17:07 <Cepheid> XD
17:07 <MisterRogers> FruitNibbler: Is it bad for me to find this absolutely hilarious?
17:07 <FruitNibbler> The other one was laying in her bed without a care
17:07 <FruitNibbler> MisterRogers, nope
17:07 <Cepheid> But yeah, it's apparently part of the breed.
17:07 <LunaticHell> Cats do the darndest things.
17:08 <FruitNibbler> Mind you the dog food bag was the size of half-of a grown human
17:08 <Cepheid> That said, he has other more interesting quirks.
17:08 <MisterRogers> Such as?
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17:08 <MisterRogers> I mean more interesting??
17:08 <FruitNibbler> If we would come home about a half day later, it would be a a horrible sight
17:08 <FruitNibbler> And stinky
17:08 <FruitNibbler> Cepheid, not really
17:08 <Cepheid> If he deems me to be moving towards the living room, he'll run off ahead of me and flop over onto his side, stretch out, and start meowing at me.
17:09 <Cepheid> FruitNibbler: I was referring to my cat. The overeating is a part of his breed. It's a common trait.
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17:09 <FruitNibbler> Breed can lean towards a type, but it is not a strict rule
17:09 <FruitNibbler> Cats and dogs get distinct body types and personalities
17:09 <Cepheid> true.
17:09 <MisterRogers> Cepheid: Ya think he actually blames you?
17:09 <FruitNibbler> And "food type" is not a breed thing
17:09 <FruitNibbler> From all the dobermanns we had only one was like that
17:09 <Cepheid> Arguably, he could be over-eating due to Tizzy's presence.
17:10 <Cepheid> He's jealous of the other cat being around, or protective of his food. One or the other. Either way, he solves the problem by eating as much of it as possible.
17:10 <FruitNibbler> Now we have a shepherd that is the "play type" - that is she will ditch any activity she is doing to go play
17:10 <Cepheid> MisterRogers: Doesn't blame me. No, the behaviour of running to the living room is to get attention.
17:11 <Cepheid> I'm also the only one who can hold him in various ways.
17:11 <MisterRogers> Oh.
17:11 <FruitNibbler> Our cats had always food accessible at all times
17:11 <FruitNibbler> Never had any foodie cats
17:11 <Cepheid> http://i.imgur.com/QkS3cMK.jpg
17:11 <Cepheid> FruitNibbler: We initially started off that way.
17:12 <LisaSquarePants> daww that's so cuute :)
17:12 * LisaSquarePants dawwwws
17:12 <Cepheid> We reduced the vomiting issue by restricting the amount of food he has access to.
17:12 <Cepheid> http://i.imgur.com/aHj2wNq.jpg Here's me holding him in a common position that he'll only let me hold hm in.
17:12 <Cepheid> Anyone else, he squirms almost instantly.
17:12 <FruitNibbler> What lens strength do you have Cepheid ?
17:13 <LunaticHell> LAZOR EYES! Oh my celestia. o. o
17:13 <Cepheid> FruitNibbler: Glasses, you mean? -5.5 Diopters.
17:13 <FruitNibbler> Seems to be a strong one (but there is always a lens of a camera that can make it look different)
17:13 <LunaticHell> FruitNibbler: I like you meat colored hat.
17:13 <MisterRogers> Cat: yeah let me just reflect all the light coming in.
17:13 <Cepheid> I'm particularly blind without my glasses.
17:14 <FruitNibbler> LunaticHell, I think you meant Cepheid
17:14 <Cepheid> I can't read anything more than a foot away from my face.
17:14 <LunaticHell> My bad
17:14 <ZeroParadox> Glasses people
17:14 <LunaticHell> I meant Cepheid.
17:14 <ZeroParadox> My brothers and sisters
17:14 <FruitNibbler> I had a Lasik eye surgery for my short sight in right eye and astigmatismus (the reason for that) in bot eyes fixed
17:15 <FruitNibbler> My sight is not perfect, but it is above "good"
17:15 <Cepheid> Mmm. Problem is, my eyes continue to worsen, so I'm not sure it's worth it.
17:15 <FruitNibbler> 120% out of 150% possible
17:15 <FruitNibbler> Shucks
17:16 <Cepheid> Apparently the cause of the vision loss in my case is due to the eye socket shape. It's causing my eyeballs to take a more oblong shape.
17:17 <FruitNibbler> Ooooh I heard about that one
17:17 <FruitNibbler> Something cylindrical something syndrome
17:17 <Cepheid> Apparently, this is also resulting in an increased risk of retina detachment.
17:17 <FruitNibbler> Yeah that one is not fixable until it stops changing the sigh value
17:18 <FruitNibbler> That is: there is no point in performing operation if the values will change after it
17:18 <Cepheid> Aye.
17:18 <Cepheid> As it is, I'm at -5.5, it's slowing down though.
17:19 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/FZNRNt0
17:19 <Cepheid> XD
17:21 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfl33Tn0pYc
17:21 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
17:21 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Skate 3 Funny Stuff Compilation #1
17:24 <MisterRogers> Anyone else remembers battlebots?
17:25 <MisterRogers> <.<
17:25 <MisterRogers> >.>
17:25 <Cepheid> Skate 3. Glitchy as all get-out, but famous for it.
17:25 <MisterRogers> T_T
17:25 <Cepheid> Because the glitches make NO SENSE.
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17:30 <LunaticHell> Cepheid: Glitches usually make none.
17:31 <Cepheid> Hmm?
17:31 <Cepheid> Oh.
17:31 <Cepheid> Lack of sense, right.
17:31 <Cepheid> But seriously, come on. Apparently you can fall through the floor by holding your skateboard above your head when you jump. How do you screw up collision detection THAT BADLY?
17:33 <LunaticHell> It's in the history of game production.
17:33 <Cepheid> So someone screwed up.
17:34 <LunaticHell> Even newbies usually don't screw up that badly, it's usually problems in the company that forces the game to be rushed.
17:34 <Reia> Probably lots of different coders as people quit/were fired, and the new people didnt know what the previous code did
17:35 <Cepheid> Probably, yeah.
17:35 <Cepheid> Because it's a well-known fact that no one comments their code.
17:35 <Cepheid> Anyone who claims otherwise is lying.
17:35 <Cepheid> WIth that in mind, I comment all my code. >.>
17:35 <LunaticHell> Skateboard games amount to the lowest form of entertainment, imo.
17:36 <Cepheid> They are, but Skate 3 is special due to it's glitches.
17:36 <Reia> Cepheid, I do honestly know someone who does comment their code thoroughly
17:36 <Cepheid> Reia: I know. I was joking. :P
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17:42 <LunaticHell> oh hello, Fallen Fellow, LocoCoco and HD.
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17:42 <Fall> Hellew
17:43 <Coco_Nut> LocoCoco isn't bad
17:43 <Cepheid> Anyawys, I shall be back in a bit. Shopping stuffs.
17:43 <LunaticHell> It's my hobby to come up with names.
17:43 <Coco_Nut> Seeya Cephied, good luck.
17:44 <Coco_Nut> One of your many
17:44 <LunaticHell> Everytime I have to make up a name in a game, my brain works hard and long to get the perfect name for a given character. o. o
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17:45 <Fall> Name the yellow dog in Stardew Valley.
17:46 <LunaticHell> Wotan.
17:46 <Coco_Nut> I've already called it Wakka
17:46 <LunaticHell> It's the Germanic name of Odin.
17:46 <Coco_Nut> There's no going back
17:46 <Fall> Wotan is remarkably close to Wakka.
17:46 <Fall> Nobody thinks he looks like a Gunther?
17:46 <Coco_Nut> It begins with "
17:46 <Coco_Nut> *W
17:47 <Coco_Nut> And has an "a" in it.
17:47 <LunaticHell> Oh yeah, Wednesday was named in honor of Wotan/Odin.
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17:47 <Coco_Nut> But surely it would make more sense to name it after one of the wolves
17:47 <LunaticHell> Germanic Mythology has some really flank kicking names.
17:47 <LunaticHell> Coco_Nut: Fafnir?
17:47 <Coco_Nut> Like Fenrir, but not Fenrir because that's the most dramatically overuse name in the world.
17:47 <Coco_Nut> *overused
17:48 <Coco_Nut> Is Fafnir, Germanic Fenrir?
17:48 <LunaticHell> Good, because Fafnir is not Fenrir.
17:48 <LunaticHell> You know what name I really like?
17:49 <LunaticHell> "Blutgang", it's the name of the sword of a hero.
17:49 <Divide|Tech> Hm. Network name: 'humanityfirst'. Why does this sound like either a Deus Ex or a Whateley Universe reference?
17:49 <LunaticHell> It roughly translates to "Bloodwalk".
17:49 * Fall names his rabbit Beowulf
17:49 <Divide|Tech> Woden's Day, Thor's Day, Freya's Day... >.>
17:50 <LunaticHell> Sounds more like X-Men to me.
17:50 <Coco_Nut> Julius Caesar got July though
17:50 <LunaticHell> And his "son" got August.
17:51 <Coco_Nut> Was Augustus not his son?
17:51 <Coco_Nut> I'm a bit behind on current events.
17:51 <Fall> I got a whole season. In AMERICA.
17:51 <LunaticHell> Not biological.
17:51 <LunaticHell> He was his adoptive son.
17:52 <Coco_Nut> Oh fair enough, I feel like son doesn't need to be in quotation marks.
17:52 <LunaticHell> Good point, I was too lazy to write out "adoptive".
17:52 <Coco_Nut> Fair enough, I mean it's over 6 letters.
17:54 <LunaticHell> Yeah, but I ended up with more than 20 for making the point and more than 30 to comment on it. *sigh*
17:54 <LunaticHell> I fail at being lazy. o. o
17:55 <Fall> Still prefer Gunther.
17:55 <LunaticHell> Gunther is the name of a hero.
17:55 <Coco_Nut> The dog is not a Gunther
17:56 <LunaticHell> The dog is too lazy for that name.
17:56 <Divide|Tech> Aww... LunaticHell, Wolfram Siebeck has passed on.
17:56 <LunaticHell> Shame.
17:57 <LunaticHell> If I remember correctly, Gunther was the name of the spoony Bard in the story of the Nibelungen saga.
17:59 <Divide|Tech> Was Gunther actually lovestruck?
18:00 <LunaticHell> Don't ask me for details. o. o
18:00 <LunaticHell> But he had a good swordarm.
18:00 <Divide|Tech> But that's what spoony means! Foolishly sentimental, lovestruck.
18:00 <LunaticHell> I know. o. o
18:00 <LunaticHell> He was pretty foolishly sentimental, so that's that.
18:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Pictures of Cheese Sandwich GoH Figure Appear! [ http://tinyurl.com/zuj3c8p ]
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18:01 <LunaticHell> The highlight of the saga was a giant amazing last stand-ish battle in the hun's castle.
18:02 <LunaticHell> Enough men died that the survivors had to walk knee deep in blood.
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18:03 <Divide|Tech> Really, the Ring of the Nibelungen is a remarkable tale. :3
18:04 <LunaticHell> Caused by the wrath of a lover scorned.
18:05 <Divide|Tech> Well, remember of course the Wedding of Paris... :S
18:05 <Divide|Tech> In THAT case, it wasn't even a lover, it was a goddess spurned.
18:06 <LunaticHell> Did you just rate the wrath of a lover higher than one of a goddess?
18:06 <Divide|Tech> All of the yes.
18:07 <LunaticHell> So where would the wrath of a goddess lover be?
18:07 <LunaticHell> aka Hera.
18:08 <Divide|Tech> Oh, you know that one. Zeus had a tendency to be violent. Hera had a tendency to be /vile./
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18:37 * Cepheid tries to keep this place appropriate for fillies by cleaning it up and leaving sharp objects everywhere.
18:37 <LunaticHell> hey JonBro
18:38 * LunaticHell adds swords and loaded questions lieing around.
18:38 <LunaticHell> Cepheid: Tat good?
18:38 <Cepheid> Hmm?
18:38 <Cepheid> Oh, of course. Yeah.
18:39 <LunaticHell> Watch out or you step in a "Does this make me look fat?"
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19:19 <Cepheid> They aren't kidding about the camera. But meh, I can deal with it.
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19:27 <FruitNibbler> Someone stolen my Rosetta Stone account
19:28 <FruitNibbler> I never changed the password
19:28 <FruitNibbler> And now it was rejected every time
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19:28 <Cepheid> ...
19:28 <Cepheid> Why the hell would anyone even want to steal something like that?
19:28 <FruitNibbler> Someone so desperate to learn languages they are willing to commit fraud
19:28 <FruitNibbler> I don't know really
19:29 <FruitNibbler> I have recovered it, so it's no biggie
19:29 <Cepheid> Some people just want to watch the world learn, I guess.
19:29 <FruitNibbler> Will have to change that password on other services though
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19:30 <FruitNibbler> (I have many passwords, but since I am lazy I tend to have the same on say, three at once)
19:30 <FruitNibbler> Mostly on insignificant things like this language learningapp
19:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Comic #44 3 Page Preview [ http://tinyurl.com/hegxfe7 ]
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19:36 <FruitNibbler> Cepheid, maybe the company had an insecure way of storing passwords and some "hacker" took that as an exercise
19:37 <Sour_Sweet> That'd have been in the news though
19:37 <Sour_Sweet> Most of the time they just recycle credentials from older breaches.
19:38 <Sour_Sweet> The only solution to the problem is unique passwords and a password manager.
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20:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Animation: Bungie Jump [ http://tinyurl.com/zyapqv4 ]
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20:09 * Cepheid returns as a ghost and haunts Gladiolus. "I wanted to be donated to scieeeennncce!"
20:09 <Gladiolus> You are!
20:09 <Gladiolus> Crop sciences
20:09 <Gladiolus> :p
20:09 * Gladiolus plants a tree on Cepheid
20:09 <Gladiolus> also Iβm a bat you canβt spoop me
20:09 * Gladiolus boops Cepheid spoopnose
20:10 * Cepheid haunts. "That doesn't stop me from tryiiiiing~!"
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20:27 <MarsToSirius> Um, is anyone here actually AT Bronycon?
20:27 <MarsToSirius> Shot in the dark I know but
20:33 <Sour_Sweet> Brushie Horse is
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20:36 * MarsToSirius is snom'd.
20:36 <MarsToSirius> OK, cool. Because I'm hearing word that this Mic impersonator is /still/ at the con, still wearing his badge. Wondering how the hell this has allowed to happen
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20:37 * MarsToSirius braces himself, gets into a catching stance. Preps for many snugs.
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20:39 <Princess-Luna> It's ridiculous and shows up the constaff like nothing else.
20:39 <Gladiolus> whatβs a mic, whoβs a mic
20:39 <Gladiolus> is he horse famous
20:39 <Princess-Luna> Mic Da Microphone
20:39 <Princess-Luna> made various pon'tunes
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20:43 * MarsToSirius giggles happily. Returns all snugs with equal value.
20:44 <MarsToSirius> What's even stupider is that the Twitter account yesterday was responding to a claim that people should've figured out that he didn't look much like Mic that "Yeah, well not all of our staff and customers would know." So someone obviously *knows* about the situation but
20:45 <MarsToSirius> And hell, it's not like he would've been hard to pick out of a crowd, he was wearing a T-shirt with "TRIVIUM" emblazoned in quite large print
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20:47 <Divide|Tech> I HATE THIS WEEKEND. I hate it so very much, because I keep getting connectivity failures based on Windows 10.
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20:53 <MisterRogers_> brb
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20:57 <FruitNibbler> LOL there is a "Royal privileged sniper Society" in Germany
20:58 <FruitNibbler> That is literally the name of the shooting range/society
20:58 <FruitNibbler> Actually, wrong
20:58 <FruitNibbler> It's "Royally privileged sniper Society"
20:58 <FruitNibbler> I want to be a member of it
20:58 <FruitNibbler> Just because of the name
20:59 * Gladiolus snipes FruitNibbler
20:59 <HyperDash> Our HAHcon Panel is about to start
20:59 <HyperDash> picarto.tv/flyingweaselman
21:00 <FruitNibbler> I spent an hour on-and-off trying to find the long sniping range 300m+ that we have visited
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21:00 <FruitNibbler> I am 100% it is in Germany, but I can't find it in googlz
21:01 <FruitNibbler> In fact there are no ranges of this distance on googles other than the range of the Bundewehr (german army)
21:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Livestream Saturdays and Drawfriend [ http://tinyurl.com/jqk8lh4 ]
21:01 <FruitNibbler> Can it be the case that I was on a private range that isn't even advertising???
21:02 <FruitNibbler> Was I a member of some illerminati snipers accidentally?
21:02 <FruitNibbler> So many questions
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21:04 <Cepheid> "Cathedral of Oblivion" "Don't go in unless you're confident with your skills." Well that sounds ominous.
21:05 <LunaticHell> FruitNibbler: Not everything is represented on google. Yes, you can be on a rpivate range that isn't advertising (online). No, you were not a member of some illuminati snipers, I would know if you were.
21:05 <LunaticHell> Ignore the last bit.
21:05 <FruitNibbler> XD
21:05 <FruitNibbler> Illuminati is in Bavaria
21:06 <FruitNibbler> I hardly ever was there
21:06 <LunaticHell> And that's why the BND is moving from Bavaria to Berlin.
21:06 <LunaticHell> You didn't know that, right?
21:07 <LunaticHell> The German secret service is mooving it's HQ from Pullach [Bavaria] to Berlin [Berlin].
21:07 <FruitNibbler> Let's assume I was not aware of it
21:08 <LunaticHell> Now you are. ;)
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21:10 <FruitNibbler> http://www.nervenkritzel.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/schafschuetze_kleiner_relaunch.jpg
21:10 <FruitNibbler> I had a badge with this joke
21:10 <FruitNibbler> Bought it in my range's shop
21:10 <FruitNibbler> I can't find it though :(
21:10 <FruitNibbler> Possibly lost in the moving
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21:23 <Divide|Tech> More shrieks.
21:31 <CleverDerpy> I finally got pokemon go to work
21:31 <FruitNibbler> Let it go, let it go!
21:32 <CleverDerpy> FruitNibbler, you need to focus more on the... bare nessecities
21:36 <|-e|> CleverDerpy! \o/
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21:36 <e> o3o
21:37 <|-e|> ( 'Ο')
21:41 <CleverDerpy> hiya
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21:45 * Bubs rolls in
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21:45 <Bubs> well.. that was unintended
21:45 <Bubs> anyway. hiya!
21:48 <|-e|> Hi, Bobs.
21:48 <|-e|> Eeerrr... Bubs.
21:48 <Bubs> hey elektron :)
21:51 <hawthornbunny> Is anyone at HAHcon? XD
21:51 <hawthornbunny> It's been a blast so far
21:52 <Coco_Nut> HAHcon?
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21:52 <Bubs> I wish I could be at bronycon now
21:52 <fyrepony> im in mehcon
21:52 <fyrepony> gonna game soon
21:52 <|-e|> I wish I was too.
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21:53 <fyrepony> no honestly who is responsible for these con names
21:53 <hawthornbunny> fyrepony: it's Horses At Home Con, happening right now :) http://www.hahcon.online/
21:53 <Fn> Said fyrepony to shift the blame from themself
21:53 <Bubs> but it would have been ridiculously expensive to go there just for the con itself
21:54 <Bubs> maybe I'll try to go to babscon next year
21:54 <Bubs> that one is cheaper to go to anyway
21:56 <fyrepony> 2:30 - 3:00
21:56 <fyrepony> How to clean your Plushies G
21:56 <fyrepony> I will be going over how to clean a plushie, whether it is mlp or other type of plushie. I will also go over what not to use on your plushies.
21:56 <fyrepony> i think i have too dirty mind...
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22:01 <Bubs> noooo
22:01 <Bubs> I just wanted to ask her something
22:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Prolonged Dream 4 / BoE 4:23 / Magical Loyalty 32 / Star Mares 2.2.21 [ http://tinyurl.com/jykw2ct ]
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22:50 <Finwe> o3o
22:50 <Finwe> Mr Renny.
22:50 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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23:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony: Anime Opening (AWESOME SFM) [ http://tinyurl.com/hedeehq ]
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23:05 <Renny> Hi hi!
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23:06 <Finwe> !s6
23:06 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 6d:17h:23m:25s
23:06 <Finwe> Somehow I don't think so.
23:12 <Renny> Lol
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