Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Wednesday, 2016-07-13

00:00 <Schism> Meh, most botnets tend to be run by them.  Kids using other folks' programs and not quite recognizing that maaaaaaaybe they're opening their computers up to other, smarter people.

00:00 <RazorSharpFang> But in that case, it's no longer their machine.

00:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1953 [ http://tinyurl.com/j9agpaq ]

00:00 <Schism> True.  Granted, the danger is somewhat mitigated by the fact that if you're running a Windows XP machine with 256 MB of RAM in this day and age, any attempts to use you as part of a botnet will be slightly slowed down by the inference that your Ethernet cables might as well be filled with cheez-whiz.

00:01 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: They'll just bitcoin crunch and rack-up the power-bill.

00:01 <Schism> Really?  Bitcoin crunching on a Pentium 3 with 256 MB of RAM?

00:02 <Schism> I have an abacus you might want to look at, I've heard it has ransomware on it.

00:02 <RazorSharpFang> XD

00:02 <RazorSharpFang> Every cent earned for free is a cent of profit.

00:03 <Schism> This is true.  And that /is/ what most botnets do these days, isn't it?  (When they're not breaking open customers' and hospitals' computers to install ransomware...)

00:04 <RazorSharpFang> I'm not too familiar myself. My unit was only introductory.

00:04 <Schism> Just work tech support.  You'll get a master class.

00:04 <RazorSharpFang> But I have seen the rabbit hole, and it is wide.

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00:05 <Schism> You know that sinkhole which devoured a pretty good portion of Ottawa's CBD?  Yeah, it's bigger than that.

00:07 * Schism randomly snickers. "I have a friend where we simply try to come up with new ways to hurt each other linguistically."

00:10 <RazorSharpFang> I'm gonna make some food, brb

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00:21 * Phantasma_Eeria sings at Heartbreak "Don't go breaking my heart~"

00:22 <Phantasma_Eeria> What's this about 'The Horse Awakens 30th of June' Tracer

00:23 <Tracer> *Jult

00:23 <Tracer> *July

00:23 <Phantasma_Eeria> That one

00:23 <Tracer> It's a pun on the fact pony returns that date.

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00:23 <Tracer> the horse awakens = star wars: the Force awakens

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01:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Live Comment Q&A, Suggestion, and Compaint Answering Time!  [ http://tinyurl.com/jjnqldq ]

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01:08 <Fn> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxXcByAHTV4

01:08 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

01:08 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Ultimate Hamburger Challenge with Hydraulic Press Channel!

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01:15 <Schism> So, folks, RSF is looking for tips on a resume!  And I suggested that maybe we can help him out.

01:15 <Schism> I suspect that more than a few of us have gone through the pain and hatred that is a job hunt, after all.

01:17 <Schism> So, first things first.  Always tailor your resume to the employer.  You don't want to print off 20 copies thereof and then send them to, say, a cafe, a restaurant, an ISP, a hairdressing salon, and so on.

01:18 <Gladiolus> Modern job hunting is a depressing experience.

01:18 <RazorSharpFang> "Back in my day, I marched up to the local %employer% and demanded a job, and got a job. You're all just lazy!"

01:19 <Fn> You still can do it

01:19 <Fn> But that won't likely to be a high paying job

01:20 <Schism> Second point.  Make a list of ALL your skills.  Not just the ones which are applicable to the job you're hunting for.  A list of ALL of them.  Then, for each job for which you're hunting, come up with 5 or so which match the employee you think they'd look for.

01:21 <Schism> Looking for a secretarial/clerical position?  Literacy and numeracy score high.  Retail or support?  Customer service scores highest, a good voice and a confident tone.

01:21 <Schism> Arrange them so that the first thing the employer sees is what they're looking for.

01:22 <Gladiolus> Man I applied for a basic job at the local beach club (This residential neighborhood has a man made beach) and cited my police record check, army aptitude test, and census worker stuff

01:22 <Gladiolus> didn't even get a call back

01:23 <Schism> You were probably 'overqualified'.

01:23 <Schism> Which is possibly the /stupidest/ idea ever, but honestly.

01:23 <Fn> Oh, oh, there is one "workaround"

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01:24 <Schism> Underpromise, overdeliver, FN?

01:24 <Fn> You say "I am interested in the position to gain experience, because I have a vested interest"

01:24 <Schism> That occurs at the interview.

01:24 <Schism> Or I /suppose/ in the cover letter.

01:25 <Schism> Third point.  If you haven't got a degree, or you're limited in degrees concomitant with the job itself, don't bother with education.  Put the employer's focus on actual experience and your skills, instead.

01:27 <Schism> Point of note.  You people know me.  You know how I work, and that I put forth a very good face which leads folks to say, 'holy crap, this guy knows everything'.  While I sure as heck do not.  That aura of confidence I try and exude is a big part of what makes me good at my job.  You would not look at me and say, 'This guy graduated with a GED.'

01:28 <Schism> A spectacular valedictorian I am NOT.

01:28 <RazorSharpFang> GED?

01:29 <Schism> General equivalency degree.  The rough equivalent of 'this guy couldn't cut it in high school, so he tested out.'

01:30 <Schism> The upper forms for you British and Australian folks.

01:31 <RazorSharpFang> So I see.

01:32 <StormDashNLR> its better than just being a complete drop out i have a GED too Schism

01:32 <Schism> That is indeed true.

01:33 <Schism> Kinda funny.  I can decipher Latin, Swedish and French (though I certainly can't /speak/ them without sending the listener into paroxysms), I've the ability to grok high end logical and mathematical concepts, I've actually gone through a few of Victor Hugo's books WITHOUT collapsing into a snoring session... but yup.

01:33 <RazorSharpFang> I did well in high school, so that doesn't particularly apply to me, but I do see your point about exuding confidence.

01:34 <Fn> Confidence never hurts

01:34 <RazorSharpFang> I am not a confident person. : /

01:34 <Schism> Like I said, tailoring a resume to the people you're looking to work for is vital.  You want to say, "I can do this job, I KNOW how to do this job, hire me!"  (Though I've heard that using a particularly esoteric cipher on your resume will get Google to hire you on the spot.)

01:36 <Fn> Or you can hack one of their services

01:36 <Fn> That is also an insta-hired thing

01:36 <RazorSharpFang> This can backfire

01:37 <Schism> Kind of.  If you manage to do so in a non-malicious way, do not publish the hack, and actually give Google the details, I'm given to understand that they'll offer you a job.  If you break any of those three, they'll send a prosecutor to your door.

01:38 <RazorSharpFang> Even though it's still illegal.

01:38 <Schism> Yes and no.  It depends upon the legal codes, so it can certainly fall under such statutes.

01:40 <Fn> WHat Schism said

01:40 <Schism> It certainly breaks the contract provided by Google in their EULAs, which are as boilerplate as they get... also, Google like to hire groups of hackers to find zero-day exploits.  I know they've, in the past, provided massive cash prizes for folks who can BREAK THEM.

01:40 <Schism> Which a lot of other companies have followed suit in doing.  :3

01:40 <RazorSharpFang> '); drop table ITEMS; --

01:41 <Schism> https://xkcd.com/327/

01:42 <RazorSharpFang> Bobby tables, the classic.

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01:47 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: Hang on, do you work at home, or do you go to a callcenter or similar

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01:49 <Schism> I actually work at home, here.

01:50 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: Do you use a headset or similar, or is it like, text-chat, or...

01:51 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Vulpor!

01:51 <Vulpor> yo

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01:52 <Schism> I do use a headset and a home phone, which give me the option to mimic an actual work set.

01:53 <Gladiolus> EQD mods!

01:53 <Gladiolus> It's Nossy's birthday!

01:53 <Gladiolus> Do the thing with the topic thing o3o

01:53 * Gladiolus boops Tracer

01:54 <Tracer> OH righto

01:54 <RazorSharpFang> So, when you say you need a phone line throughout, would a mobile qualify?

01:54 *** Tracer changes topic to 'Welcome to #EquestriaDaily! This channel is rated All Ages. | Guide and rules: http://derpy.me/EqDRules | The Horse Awakens July 30th, actually.. -HAPPY BIRFDAY. NOSSY!-'

01:54 <Gladiolus> y3y

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01:55 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

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01:56 <Surreal_Nightmares> Murry burthmis The_Nostalgia_Mare.

01:56 * Surreal_Nightmares hats on Thelema5

01:56 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Thanks.

01:57 * Schism boops The_Nostalgia_Mare with a cheesecake. It's dark chocolate raspberry and lemon granola, and topped with a whipped butterscotch icing.

01:57 * The_Nostalgia_Mare noms. "Thank you, Schism."

01:58 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: Would a cellular phone count, or must it be a home-phone?

01:59 <Schism> No, it has to be a wired phone.

02:00 <RazorSharpFang> I do have a home phone, but I don't live alone.

02:00 <Schism> After all, if you're going to use a cell phone for 8 hours, it'd probably run out of battery, and even then there are security issues to consider.

02:00 <Schism> A second line is what they suggest.  But since I'm in my own apartment...

02:00 <RazorSharpFang> Req: "Subscription to a reliable, high-speed, hard-wired, bi-directional Internet connection, DSL or Cable"

02:00 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm.

02:01 <RazorSharpFang> 99% uptime is good enough, right?

02:01 <Schism> You might get a ding for being in Australia, but I think they can set that aside.  Besides, I drop often enough...

02:02 <RazorSharpFang> What happens if you lose it whilst on your scheduled shift?

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02:02 * Schism gives a gimlet eye to his router.

02:02 <Schism> Hmm... damnitall.

02:02 <Schism> I want cheesecake, but the store is so far... (5 minutes away, but who's counting?)

02:04 <RazorSharpFang> Cordless phones are not permitted?

02:05 <Schism> Correct.

02:05 <Schism> Primarily because if they cut out, it causes all manner of grief.

02:05 <Schism> And remember, being on the phone for 4-8 hours drains the battery significantly.

02:06 <RazorSharpFang> I wasn't aware corded phones had a headset jack.

02:06 <Schism> Most do not.  You'd have to pick up a business phone.

02:07 <Schism> The variant I use is a two-line one with a speakerphone attached and, yes, a 2.5mm headset jack.

02:07 <Schism> Also, be right back.  I demand cheesecake.

02:07 <RazorSharpFang> Alrighty

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02:13 <Oddity> Hi I

02:13 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #772 [ http://tinyurl.com/zfkrkzt ]

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02:17 <MistyEmerald> Hi room

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02:29 <Thelema5> Hello

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02:39 * Schism returns. With macaroni salad, and ice cream, and CHEESECAKE.

02:40 <Schism> Thelema5: Hi!  I was instructing Fangy on the creation of a useful resume.

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02:42 <Schism> Say, by Apple OS 12, I bet they'll be using volcanoes or asteroid craters for their version names.  I can't wait for OS Chicxulub.

02:43 <Schism> And three years from now, Android will abandon their candy-themed names and go with ponies.  Android Lyra Heartstrings, here we are.

02:43 <Gladiolus> you mean macOS 12 :p

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02:43 <Schism> Eh, yes, Mac OS.

02:43 <Gladiolus> 10.12 is Sierra and they rebranded to macOS

02:43 <Gladiolus> osx is DEAD

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02:43 <Schism> They'd gone with that before anyway, with El Capitan.  But okay, okay.

02:44 * Schism peers at the cheesecake in the fridge.

02:44 <Gladiolus> El Cap was still OSX :p

02:44 * Schism wants cheesecake, but it'd be bad, but he wants it, but it'd... augh!

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02:51 <Fayth> I know them feels

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02:55 <iandalton> Hello everypony

02:56 <RazorSharpFang> Heya

02:56 <iandalton> What's good?

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02:57 <Thelema5> Hi there, iandalton

02:58 <Thelema5> What's good?  I'm researching things to do on my upcoming vacation.  Have to do it now because I'll be staying in an off-grid cabin on a lake with no internet or cell service

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02:58 <iandalton> That sounds like an excellent vacation

02:58 <Thelema5> I'm a bit scared to be disconnected for a week, though

02:59 <iandalton> Beware people violating your solitude in their hunt for pokemon

02:59 <Thelema5> Ah ha ha ha

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02:59 <Nicktendonick> download fanfics to read?

02:59 <Thelema5> I nearly ran some trainer over today, they were just wandering, zombie like, on the roadside

03:00 <Thelema5> Staring at their phone

03:00 <Thelema5> Not a bad idea, Nicktendonick

03:00 <iandalton> Wow

03:00 <iandalton> I've heard a few crazy stories

03:00 <Schism> Thelema5: Why did you miss?

03:00 <Thelema5> Heh

03:00 <iandalton> Like some guy wandering along a river and coming upon a body

03:00 <Schism> Some girl, in fact.

03:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: Panini Comics Mexico Releases Issue 3 of Translated Comic Series [ http://tinyurl.com/zakrn6b ]

03:00 <Nicktendonick> I recommend "Hard Reset" and it's sequels.

03:01 <Schism> That's a good one.  Twilight's time loop...

03:01 <Thelema5> Yeah, I read that.  And some folks being lured to getting mugged

03:01 <Nicktendonick> Who goes out at 2 am at night?

03:01 <Schism> Nicktendonick, check out 'The MLP Loops'.

03:01 <Nicktendonick> Honestly, common sense.

03:01 <Thelema5> Read the news story, not the fanfic

03:01 <iandalton> How does pokemon help luring people?

03:01 <Thelema5> I'm not sure

03:01 <Schism> iandalton: Because people will set up 'gyms' or something similar to lure people inwards, in hopes of securing badges.

03:02 <iandalton> Oh

03:02 <iandalton> Wow

03:02 <Nicktendonick> You can place items that pokemon to gather at certain points. Criminals did that, and lie in wait to mug them.

03:02 <iandalton> That's brutal

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03:02 <Schism> Granted, there is a positive side.

03:02 <Thelema5> Oh?

03:02 <Schism> Some folks set up such a locale right outside the WBC in Kansas.

03:02 <iandalton> WBC?

03:02 <Tracer> <Nicktendonick> download fanfics to read? - I will always and forever reccomend Fractured Sunlight if you like EG fics at all. ;3

03:03 <Schism> Westboro Baptist Church.

03:03 <iandalton> Oh

03:03 <ADragonHoarding> I feel the need to correct you.

03:03 <ADragonHoarding> Westboro "Baptist Church"

03:03 <Schism> Point.

03:03 <iandalton> No true Scotsman

03:03 <Sombra> There are far worst things.

03:03 <Schism> Either way.  Hmm, fanfics...

03:03 <Nicktendonick> Well, it's not them doing it, it's the creators of the game, aren't the spots automatically generated. It's not them doing it, it's just them rolling to the punches

03:03 <Nicktendonick> *rolling with the punches

03:04 <Schism> Nicktendonick, I suggest anything and everything by Estee, but that should come as no surprise.  You may also like Skywriter's "Contraptionology", if you're in any way interest in mad science.

03:04 <ADragonHoarding> Not quite applicable to this, iandalton.

03:04 <iandalton> Contraptionology!

03:04 <iandalton> ADragonHoarding why not?

03:04 <Schism> Yes, you're right, that exclamation mark really means something.

03:04 <iandalton> Schism maybe I should have said

03:04 <iandalton> Contraptionology!!

03:04 <Schism> "Contraptionology!"

03:04 <iandalton> To convey my enthusiasm

03:04 <ADragonHoarding> A Scotsman is a nationality and a genetic heritage, rather than a set of beliefs.

03:04 <Schism> Either way, it's awesome.

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03:05 <Schism> Others... lessee...

03:05 <Thelema5> I read an article about the American National Holocaust Museum (or something similar) posting "no pokemon go" signs on their property today

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03:06 <ADragonHoarding> To be Christian, you have to actually follow a set of beliefs, not just be born to the right people.

03:06 <Schism> I'm not surprised.  I'm certain they've also blacklisted their locale on the application.

03:06 <Thelema5> Can places do that?

03:07 <Tracer> It's their right to, sure

03:07 <ADragonHoarding> Why wouldn't they be able to?

03:07 <Schism> Yes, there can be blacklisted locales.

03:07 <Tracer> I don't see a big issue with it

03:07 <iandalton> ADragonHoarding just what beliefs you need to follow depends on who you ask. If you stipulate that you need certain beliefs about the nature of the trinity, Mormons aren't Christian. I don't think we can go too deep into this topic though

03:07 <ADragonHoarding> You don't catch Pokemon inside Pokemon Centers.

03:07 <Schism> Private buildings are generally blacklisted, but some issues /have/ arisen based on GPS issues.  One family's home was broken into when someone mistook it for a public location in search of... I don't even know what.

03:08 <Schism> Probably turned out to be a Magikarp.

03:08 <ADragonHoarding> iandalton: basically, let me put it like this.

03:08 <ADragonHoarding> If you maintain that WBC is Christian, I will literally fight you.

03:08 <Nicktendonick> Here's a bunch of audiobooks I recommend "Pinkie Pie vs the Soufle" http://www.mlpaudiobooks.net/story/369/Pinkie-Pie-vs-The-Souffl  "Night Guards" http://www.mlpaudiobooks.net/story/286/Night-Guards and "Chess" http://www.mlpaudiobooks.net/story/278/Chess BBBFFBR http://www.mlpaudiobooks.net/story/335/B-B-B-F-F-B-R  http://www.mlpaudiobooks.net/story/338/Do-Not-Serve-These-Ponies and http://www.mlpaudiobooks.net/story/323/In-Wh

03:08 <Nicktendonick> ich-Twilight-Sparkle-Attempts-to-Eat-a-Sandwich

03:08 <Schism> I will happily maintain that they /purport/ to be Christian, despite all evidence to the contrary.

03:08 <Tracer> I feel like maintaining this discussion is too much of a fight in itself

03:08 <Nicktendonick> http://www.mlpaudiobooks.net/story/323/In-Which-Twilight-Sparkle-Attempts-to-Eat-a-Sandwich

03:08 <iandalton> ADragonHoarding well if I wasn't convinced before I am now

03:09 <Nicktendonick> Chess is Amazing

03:09 <ADragonHoarding> Nicktendonick: that kind of got broken to hell.

03:09 <Thelema5> WBC is about as Christian as ISIS is muslim.

03:09 <Schism> Nicktendonick, please don't do that again... it's painful.

03:09 <Tracer> ^

03:09 <ADragonHoarding> Use link shorteners and the like.

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03:10 <ADragonHoarding> Or provide a pastebin with the links, and just mention what's linked, etc.

03:10 <Nicktendonick> (okay. Night Guards, Pinkie Pie vs the Soufle, BBBFFBR, Do not serve these ponies, In which Twilight Sparkle attempts to eat a Sandwich, and Chess, one of my favorites.

03:10 <Schism> Nicktendonick, also, 'Pinkie Pie vs. the Souffle' is part of Estee's Triptych saga, all of the stories within I highly recommend.

03:10 <SleepFrame> Ugh, move prepping. yay.

03:10 <Sombra> Well

03:10 <Sombra> Last I checked WBC don't kill people...

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03:10 <ADragonHoarding> That we know of.

03:11 <ADragonHoarding> But I suggest we move on from that.

03:11 <Sombra> But let's not talk about that.

03:11 <iandalton> Another good fanfic, if it hasn't been mentioned, is Progress

03:11 <Tracer> Yes

03:11 <Schism> Luna vs. the Microwave!

03:11 <Sombra> Lets talk about when science is going to clone the Tazmanian Tiger

03:11 <Tracer> Progress is fantastic

03:11 <Sombra> Because I very much need one as a pet.

03:11 <Schism> Progress is magnificent.

03:11 <Nicktendonick> Yes yes, that was my first entry into them

03:11 <Nicktendonick> *into pony-fics

03:11 <Tracer> Abacus and Luna 4 lyfe

03:11 <iandalton> Although it was written as a gagfic, I like its characterizations

03:11 <Tracer> legit

03:12 <ADragonHoarding> Mmmmm...

03:12 <Schism> Ooh, ooh, here's one for you.  S2-canon fic: "Earth & Sky".

03:12 <iandalton> !!!

03:12 <iandalton> Another good one

03:12 <Sombra> I think it's called a... Thylacine?

03:12 <iandalton> By SkyWriter, IIRC?

03:12 <ADragonHoarding> Progress was alright, but I got annoyed with the secondary characters.

03:12 <Schism> No, Warren Hutch.

03:12 <Schism> Skywriter wrote "Contraptionology" and "How to Pull a Unicorn Tooth".

03:12 <iandalton> oH ok

03:13 <iandalton> right right

03:13 <Schism> Oh, and "On a Cross and Arrow" is a cute little short one.

03:13 <iandalton> sounds familiar

03:13 <ADragonHoarding> Not very good on a second read, though.

03:13 <Schism> Mane 6 get pulled into an alternate universe where everypony's the opposite gender.  And yeah, it's just a neat one-shot.

03:13 <iandalton> One with a similar title to E&S is Where Earth Meets Sky

03:13 <Tracer> Collection of my centrerpiece/centrepiece of my collection are two very wonderful fics on the topic of Spikity.

03:14 <iandalton> One of the few shipping fics I got into, I thought it did something cool and different

03:14 <Schism> There's a whole hoofful of Dresden Fillies fics, too... hmm.

03:14 <iandalton> It starts where most fics end, with the characters proposing

03:14 <Nicktendonick> https://www.fimfiction.net/story/304458/entry-649  ,  https://www.fimfiction.net/story/295605/to-try-for-the-sun (VERY GOOD)  and https://www.fimfiction.net/story/206382 , https://www.fimfiction.net/story/289410/ , https://www.fimfiction.net/story/235070/anarchive-reigns (Lawl)

03:14 <Nicktendonick> Okay, was that one broken? (last one anyway)

03:14 <Schism> Okay, please, please stop that.

03:14 <ADragonHoarding> okay, no, the problem is the link spam.

03:15 <Tracer> ^

03:15 <Tracer> Very much

03:15 <Nicktendonick> Oh...

03:15 <Nicktendonick> doh.

03:15 <Schism> Spamming links all over the place, NO.  If nothing else, add the link to a bit of information as to why you're interested in it.

03:16 <iandalton> One thing you can do is link to your FIMFic account's favorites page

03:16 * Thelema5 spams Lynx all over the place, watches the chaos

03:16 <ADragonHoarding> Okay, which Lynx though?

03:16 * iandalton is inundated with text-only browsers

03:17 <Schism> For example < http://orig10.deviantart.net/d993/f/2011/311/f/a/briefcase_full_of_moons__by_warrenhutch-d4fgi9n.jpg < I now want to see John Belushi and Dan Akroyd voicing Luna and Celestia.

03:17 <Tracer> Pffft, only text? Boooring

03:17 <Thelema5> I was thinking of large carnivorous felines

03:17 <Schism> Thelema5: No, no.  You want to spam bobcats.

03:17 <iandalton> Construction vehicles?

03:17 <Tracer> The animal.

03:18 <Schism> "Package contained bobcat instead of computer.  Would not purchase again."

03:18 <iandalton> Schism I was expecting "We can't stop here, this is bat country"

03:18 <Schism> Totally different film/book/whatever.

03:19 <iandalton> Speaking of movie references, The Best Night Ever is good

03:19 <ADragonHoarding> So, Narwhals are the only animal in nature known to have a horn similar to those within legend of the ones that adorn unicorn heads.

03:20 <iandalton> ADragonHoarding goats

03:20 <ADragonHoarding> Narwhal horns are teeth.

03:20 <ADragonHoarding> Ergo, Unicorns cast with their teeth.

03:20 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> ...

03:21 <RazorSharpFang> Are we talking about fanfiction again?

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03:21 <ADragonHoarding> Equestrian Dentistry is a very important trade.

03:21 <Thelema5> Are their horns actually chitinous?

03:21 <ADragonHoarding> ...teeth are chitinous?

03:21 <Schism> Oh, right!  The Best Night Ever and This Platinum Crown are both exceptional.

03:21 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> ADragonHoarding, Imagine shooting Magic Lasers out of your mouth...

03:21 <Schism> Especially if you liked Hard Reset.

03:21 <ADragonHoarding> Schism: I got to talk to CapnChryssalid at BronyCon.

03:22 <Schism> Niiice.  :3

03:22 <Thelema5> The_Nostalgia_Mare: Happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy birth-day to you!

03:22 * Thelema5 partycannons

03:22 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Thanks, Thelema5.

03:22 <ADragonHoarding> Apparently Best Night Ever was prompted by frustration.

03:22 <Schism> Uergh.  It's 11:30, and I fear I need to get some sleep or I'm going to be useless tomorrow.

03:22 <Schism> But oh?

03:22 <Thelema5> Sleep?  pls.

03:23 <ADragonHoarding> A) at the Blueblood fics in existence at the time, and B) by the time loop fics in the existence at the time.

03:23 <iandalton> The_Nostalgia_Mare shooting magic laz0rz out of your mouth? http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/175/719/1155844718213mp8.jpg?1316405983

03:23 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yeah pretty much.

03:23 <Schism> Ahh.  So a different look at them, then.  Oh, and 'The Elements of Harmony and the Savior of Worlds' is magnificent if you hate Tirek.

03:23 <ADragonHoarding> Like Tirek does?

03:23 <iandalton> I love Tirek

03:23 <iandalton> He's the best villain

03:23 <Schism> Well, it features one Megan Richards, a farmgirl from Kentucky...

03:24 <iandalton> But only the original

03:24 <Schism> Who just may or may not have slaughtered Tirek in G1 with a rainbow of light.

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03:24 <Sombra> The best villain is...

03:24 <Schism> Derpy Hooves!

03:24 <iandalton> Trixie

03:24 <Thelema5> Megan

03:25 <ADragonHoarding> Faust.

03:25 <iandalton> DT

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03:25 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Gary Oak.

03:25 <Sombra> MA larson

03:25 <Schism> Okay, one more.  "Cultural Artifacts", by dans_comments, is pretty palatable; it's incredibly dense and confusing, but tends to be frequently amusing.

03:25 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Weird Al.

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03:26 <iandalton> Schism what is it?

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03:27 <Tracer> As I said before, though... Fractured Sunlight is probably my all time favourite fic, a very delightful little encounter between HumaneTwi and Sunset in Human world that is set before EG3 was released and touches on some very interesting things, as well as being genuinely delightful to read.

03:28 * Tracer will peddle that one as hard as she can whenever the chance arises, dangit!

03:29 <iandalton> My favorite is definitely The Sisters Doo

03:29 <iandalton> Not wholly for itself

03:29 <ADragonHoarding> because Sunlight OTP?

03:29 <iandalton> It affected my life outside of pony

03:29 <Tracer> because Sunlight OTP

03:29 <ADragonHoarding> Eeyup.

03:29 <Tracer> xD

03:29 <iandalton> Got me on a Lewis Carroll kick which spun off a whole bunch of things, possibly set me on a new life course

03:29 <Tracer> I can't help iiitttt!

03:30 <ADragonHoarding> I had to explain to a few people that I don't ship.

03:30 <ADragonHoarding> And that yes, this does mean that I can still read and enjoy shipping fics.

03:30 <Thelema5> I'm a huge Carroll fan.  Should I read that fic?

03:31 <iandalton> Thelema5 I would recommend it

03:31 <iandalton> And there's a sidefic that's even more Carrolly

03:31 <iandalton> Through the Looking-glass and What Pinkie Found There

03:32 <iandalton> But that's more for fun, the main fic is where the author talks through Daring Doo about their love for Carroll

03:32 <Thelema5> Does a vorpal blade go snicker snack?

03:32 <iandalton> Mmmmmaybe

03:32 <ADragonHoarding> apparently the majority of Carroll's literature was dry, technical textbook stuff. I mean like literally scientific studies and the like.

03:32 <Thelema5> He was a mathematician, yeah

03:32 <iandalton> ADragonHoarding Carroll made even his academic work fun

03:32 <iandalton> I have a book of his on education reform, it's written as a play

03:32 <ADragonHoarding> Not according to QI.

03:32 <Schism> Oh, 'Cultural Artifacts' is an HiE story - but... the main character cannot speak Equestrian and is quickly handled as a precise threat to the nation.

03:33 <Thelema5> *mathematician

03:33 <Sombra> And burned at the stake as a witch.

03:33 <Schism> Very nearly.

03:33 <iandalton> And there's his famous dialogue on logic, "What the Tortoise Said to Achilles"

03:34 <iandalton> We read it in an epistemology class, and it's used as the jumping off point for the excellent book Gödel, Escher, Bach

03:34 <ADragonHoarding> "Stop trying to ride me, I can't learn Surf."

03:34 <iandalton> ADragonHoarding I don't watch QI but if they're calling his stuff dry and stuffy maybe they are just party poopers :-P

03:34 <Schism> The one I mentioned is also a story which features the pony tribes being absolute MONSTERS to one another.  For example, in 'Cultural Artifacts', the 'Want It, Need It' spell derived... from gladiator tournaments.  The Earth Pony who won it would keep the ridiculously low-valued doll for himself.

03:34 <ADragonHoarding> No, they're simply pointing out that the /majority/ of his work is not what's remembered.

03:35 <Schism> All that was missing from the Ponyville event were the pitchforks and spears.

03:35 <ADragonHoarding> People remember Alice, the education reform thing, etc.

03:35 <ADragonHoarding> But mostly he wrote dry math stuff.

03:35 <iandalton> ADragonHoarding I have read a fair selection of his works, they always manage to be clever even while being academic

03:35 <iandalton> Unless you find academic stuff inherently boring, in which case, fine

03:35 <Schism> Mm, I seem to recall that Carroll's "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" were simply a series of stories he made up to his niece.

03:36 <ADragonHoarding> Take it up with Stephen Fry!

03:36 <ADragonHoarding> In any case.

03:36 <iandalton> I have here a copy of Euclid and His Modern Rivals, where he talks about the points in favor of keeping Euclid as the textbook for geometry instead of new-fangled replacements, it's academic but not dry and stuffy

03:36 <Schism> Also, oh man oh man, there are a LOT of otherwise-dry scientific and legal works which are sublimely comedic.

03:36 <ADragonHoarding> I could see myself being interested in an HiE fic where the person finds themself amongst Minotaurs.

03:37 <iandalton> He wrote a textbook on term logic which uses a method of teaching no one else has anything like, and is said to be enjoyable

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03:37 <iandalton> He has another dialogue on logic other than the Tortoise and Achilles one that I found pretty fun

03:37 <Thelema5> I enjoyed the relatively unpopular "Sylvie and Bruno" as much, if not more than his Alice works

03:37 <Schism> Actually, in "The Wanderings of a Non-Brony", TD finds himself in Minotaur lands.  He immediately winds up in massive trouble.

03:37 <Schism> Like, 'life-threatening' trouble.

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03:38 <ADragonHoarding> Mmm...

03:38 <ADragonHoarding> My issue with that is "non-brony"

03:38 <Thelema5> The time/perspective/reality shifting narative was ahead of its time

03:38 <ADragonHoarding> I prefer HiE where the show is not a thing.

03:38 <iandalton> I'm a math and logic guy myself, so I haven't just been looking to read his non-technical stuff. So I find it hard to believe that everything I've read of his has been the exception to the rule

03:39 <Schism> ADragonHoarding, a fanfic where the main character was /aware/ of Equestria, but wasn't a fan and watched maaaaybe one episode.

03:39 <ADragonHoarding> ian: you /like/ math.

03:39 <Schism> He flips his lid when he recognizes the setting.

03:39 <ADragonHoarding> Schism: yes.

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03:39 <ADragonHoarding> I still would prefer it to be a story in which the show is a not a thing.

03:39 <Schism> Fair enough.  Then you might want to check out 'Unity'.

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03:40 <Schism> Um, this one.  http://www.fimfiction.net/story/241989/unity

03:40 <iandalton> ADragonHoarding is that a crime?

03:41 <Schism> Oh, finally: Project Sunflower.  http://www.fimfiction.net/story/5170/project-sunflower

03:41 <ADragonHoarding> iandalton: and the point was not so much that Carroll was boring in his other writing, but rather that the stuff he is best know for was not the stuff he did primarily, and the rest of his work is not nearly as accessible to the average reader.

03:41 <Tracer> then why not just read a non-pony fic about the topic? :P

03:41 <iandalton> ADragonHoarding oh ok

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03:42 <Sombra> People don't read fanfics anymore

03:42 <Sombra> Didn't you know?

03:42 <ADragonDreaming> Tracer: because then it wouldn't have ponies.

03:42 <Schism> Aaaand, I suppose last of all, 'Stardust', if you like X-COM.

03:42 <Tracer> "  a story in which the show is a not a thing. " - might as well NOT have ponies. :P

03:42 <iandalton> well I accept that the less accessible stuff he wrote was technical, but I don't accept that it was dry

03:42 <ADragonDreaming> No, that's not what is meant.

03:43 <Schism> Therein, Twilight Sparkle is captured by X-COM forces and subjected to the kindly attentions of a certain Dr. Vahlen - as well as the somewhat kindlier attentions of the rest of the staff.

03:43 <ADragonDreaming> What is meant is that, to the characters in the story, the show itself is not a thing that they would be able to watch.

03:43 <ADragonDreaming> Equestria exists, etc., but there is no such thing as the TV show Friendship is Magic.

03:43 <Sombra> A story about Twilight sparkle being magically transported to WW2 in Nazi germany where she becomes part of Hitler's inner circle

03:45 <iandalton> well that escalated qiuckly

03:45 <ADragonDreaming> hm.

03:45 <ADragonDreaming> Who wrote Stardust?

03:45 <iandalton> Gaiman

03:45 <ADragonDreaming> Not that one.

03:45 <Sombra> And the title of it is...

03:46 * ADragonDreaming pokes Schism

03:46 <Sombra> ... Mein Twilight

03:46 <iandalton> Thelema5 you might like http://fair-use.org/mind/1894/07/notes/a-logical-paradox or you might not :P

03:46 <iandalton> Carroll

03:47 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: SFM Short: Hard Labor [ http://tinyurl.com/hozuwz8 ]

03:50 <Thelema5> I'll take a look at it, thanks iandalton!

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03:57 <Thelema5> Schism, thank you for redirecting my focus on King Crimson the other day.  I had forgotten how perfect this track is:

03:57 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/eTAYEC2l2dI?list=RDeHJ7An2CMB4

03:57 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

03:57 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about King Crimson-Epitaph

03:58 <Thelema5> It certainly deserves a spot in my top ten songs of all time

03:58 <iandalton> The album it's from, The the Court of the Crimson King, is pretty good

03:59 <iandalton> Thelema5 have you seen Children of Men?

03:59 <Thelema5> I have, it's one of my favorite films.

03:59 <Thelema5> The scene featuring "In the court of the crimson king" is beautiful.

04:00 <iandalton> Yeah, that's a movie that would be worth me rewatching

04:00 <Thelema5> I honestly feel it's one of the best films of the last 50 years

04:00 <iandalton> I was much younger when I saw it, was just getting into appreciating film, and didn't really appreciate it at the time

04:01 <Thelema5> Watch it again, it's heartrending

04:01 <Thelema5> The tracking shots are magic.

04:01 <Thelema5> Like seriously, the best long tracking scenes ever

04:01 <Sombra> I remember this one guy used to write fanfics that were bad... fek what was his name though...

04:01 <iandalton> Yeah, that movie was probably my first exposure to the magic of long cuts

04:01 <iandalton> Now I've seen Tarkovsky, and he is truly the master of them

04:02 <Sombra> One was about shdfmgrggm

04:02 <Sombra> Um, Starswirl the bearded

04:02 <Thelema5> I've never seen Tarkovsky's work

04:02 <iandalton> Stalker is my favorite so far

04:03 <Sombra> And then one was a wierd crossover fic with mass effect

04:03 <iandalton> Here's a long cut from fairly early in the movie, it spoils nothing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk1PxpZ-hfE

04:04 <Thelema5> The long-shot street battle scene in Children of Men will be etched in my memory forever

04:04 <RazorSharpFang> Stalker is a good FPS

04:04 <Thelema5> Absolutely one of the most intense scenes ever filmed

04:04 <ADragonDreaming> You see, comrade, when hold peestol like rifle, you will never shoot the inaccurate for fear of hitting fingers.

04:05 <Sombra> What did you guys think of hardcore henry?

04:05 <ADragonDreaming> of what?

04:05 <Sombra> The movie, Hardcore Henry, shot entirely in first person?

04:06 <ADragonDreaming> Never heard of it prior to now.

04:06 <Sombra> caca why has no one heard of it.

04:06 <jimm> what happened to this buckshot card game thing?

04:06 <ADragonDreaming> How new is it?

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04:07 <Sombra> Hold on

04:07 <Thelema5> Sombra, I've heard of it.  Seemed very... actiony.

04:07 <ADragonDreaming> Because seriously I don't pay attention to media much.

04:07 <Sombra> April 8th 2016

04:07 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, that explains why.

04:08 <ADragonDreaming> I don't watch TV, so I don't see TV ads, I browse the internet with adblock, I don't go onto blogs and etc. etc. etc.

04:08 <Sombra> I only see ads on my phone since youtube adblock doens't work for that

04:08 <iandalton> same here, that's why I didn't hear about Pokemon Go until a friend of mine told me about how someone's phone went off in class and the TA asked if he just caught a pokemon

04:10 <Widowmaker> There is an adblocker for smartphones too

04:10 <Sombra> iphones?

04:10 <Widowmaker> Even better with no-script

04:10 <Widowmaker> That I don't know

04:10 <Sombra> I mean I do have an adblocker turned on... but, i still get ads on youtube.

04:11 <iandalton> Thelema5 for the flavor of some one Carroll's dry technical works, here's the first stage direction of Act II of Euclid and His Modern Rivals:

04:12 <iandalton> [Minos sleeping. To him enter, first a cloud of tobacco-smoke; secondly the bowl, and thirdly the stem, of a gigantic meerschaum; fourthly the phantasm of Heer Niemand, carrying a pile of phantom-books, the works of Euclid's Modern Rovals, phantastically bound.]

04:12 <Sombra> Is it bad that everytime in a youtube I hear that scene from 30 rock where the guy goes, "Ha GAAAYEEE!!" I still find myself laughing?

04:12 <iandalton> Rivals*

04:12 <Thelema5> "phantastically bound" XD

04:12 <ADragonDreaming> Are you seriously still on about that?

04:12 <iandalton> Wel lhe is a phantasm

04:13 <iandalton> ADragonDreaming the discussion inspired me to draw out my book and enjoy it agian

04:13 <ADragonDreaming> I apologize for Stephen Fry's wording.

04:13 <RazorSharpFang> Who's Stephen Fry?

04:13 <iandalton> some wanker

04:13 <RazorSharpFang> A bit rude, ain't that?

04:14 <Sombra> No that's a term of endearment over the pond.

04:14 <ADragonDreaming> Depending on context and who's saying it

04:14 <iandalton> I was not saying it rudely

04:15 <RazorSharpFang> This confuses me a lot.

04:15 <iandalton> RazorSharpFang where are you from?

04:15 <RazorSharpFang> Australia

04:15 <Thelema5> I just re-watched that epic award-winning long-shot 7 minute street battle scene from Children of Men and... my god!  What an accomplishment!  What a scene!  Holy, moley, I'm literally on the edge of my seat.  Best 7 minutes of cinema ever.  I would link it here but it's DEFINATELY not "all ages"

04:16 <iandalton> I showed a Chinese guy a clip from 8 Mile where people are having a rap battle in front of a lunch truck, he was totally confused why these guys were trading insults then laughing together

04:16 <Widowmaker> You australian Emanuel

04:22 <RazorSharpFang> Emanuel?

04:23 <Widowmaker> It was a pun reference between an aussie cussword and a philosopher's surname

04:23 <RazorSharpFang> I haven't a clue what cussword that references, nor the surname referenced.

04:24 <ADragonDreaming> Emu and Manuel?

04:24 <RazorSharpFang> Emu is an animal.

04:25 <iandalton> I can only think of a philosopher whose FIRST name is Emmanuel

04:26 <iandalton> Who, coincidentally, was just brought up by Mr. Carroll in his book that I'm reading

04:26 <RazorSharpFang> iandalton: I can't think of any either

04:27 <ADragonDreaming> I Kant either.

04:27 <Thelema5> XD

04:28 * Gladiolus slides in, throws around a few volumes of utterly incomprehenslible Hegel, slides back out.

04:28 * iandalton sics the emu on Gladiolus

04:28 <iandalton> I'll phenomenalize YOUR spirit!

04:28 * Gladiolus is dead

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04:29 <Gladiolus> The night in which all cows are black

04:29 * Tracer busts dem ghosts!

04:29 <Gladiolus> except they arent'

04:29 <Gladiolus> ~hegel~

04:29 <Gladiolus> man

04:29 <Gladiolus> i wish i hadn't been kicked out of school

04:29 <Gladiolus> it doesn't depress any more but ;-;

04:29 <iandalton> Marx found Hegel standing on his head, and turned him over and set him properly on his feet

04:30 <iandalton> Gladiolus do you plan to go back some day?

04:30 <Gladiolus> yes

04:30 <Gladiolus> hopefully next jan

04:30 <Gladiolus> i want dat degree

04:30 <iandalton> o3o

04:31 <Gladiolus> Irony of actually focusing on getting my degree and taking things seriously and then immediately getting expelled for things I had done months before was not lost on me

04:31 <Gladiolus> "Hey guys I'm less of a buckup!" "TOO LATE"

04:31 <Thelema5> The past is a grotesque animal

04:32 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/gWIwe4Bu86A

04:32 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

04:32 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about of Montreal: The Past Is A Grotesque Animal

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04:33 <Gladiolus> I did something weird this week.

04:33 <Gladiolus> Traded my macbook for a ~super specced out~ older model mac pro :p.

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04:33 <Gladiolus> It's silly and stuff but I'm having a bit of fun, I think I'll keep it this way.

04:34 <Thelema5> Yay

04:34 <Gladiolus> It's so quieeeet, makes a very nice room-computer for writing and chat.

04:34 <iandalton> Have you written much lately?

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04:38 * RazorSharpFang is watching DBZAbridged.

04:38 <Gladiolus> Not really.

04:38 <Gladiolus> I plan on doing some tonight- but I always seem to.

04:38 <Gladiolus> I'm just sort of in a rut. The lack of employment isn't helping.

04:38 <iandalton> I remember a while ago you saying you think you write as well as early Arthur C. Clark?

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04:38 <Gladiolus> Believe me I'm trying.

04:39 <Gladiolus> I do yes.

04:39 <Gladiolus> At my best anyway :p

04:39 <iandalton> That's not half bad

04:39 * Thelema5 I believe in Gladiolus!

04:39 <iandalton> I admit Clark is the one I've read least of the three

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04:40 <iandalton> It has been forever since I've read much sf

04:40 <iandalton> It used to be all I'd read

04:41 <iandalton> I wanted to branch out but always found myself reading sf anyway. Now it's the opposite, I miss reading sf but I still end up reading something else

04:41 <Thelema5> It happens.  I find that I mostly just read current events these days.  Stranger than fiction, anyway.

04:42 <Gladiolus> lol poli sci wonks have been having a non-stop drunken party this year

04:42 <iandalton> Indeed. Did you hear about the explosion on a train in Taiwan?

04:43 <Gladiolus> what isn't exploding at this point

04:43 <iandalton> Truly a strange case

04:44 <Thelema5> Reading accounts, it sounds like a nightmare

04:44 <iandalton> The culprit was a man in his 50s who was having trouble finding work beyond odd jobs, and was estranged from his family. He lived out of his car with his dog. He wrote a note putting his affairs in order, then put a bunch of fireworks in a steel tube and boarded a train. No one died, and the police eventually tracked him down to a hospital where he and other passengers were being treated.

04:46 <Sour_Sweet> "I plan on doing some tonight" Does it involve ... cuddles?

04:46 * Sour_Sweet is being silly

04:47 * Thelema5 needs cuddles, as assumes that everypony else does too!

04:47 <Thelema5> *and

04:47 * Renny puts cuddles on Thelema5

04:47 <Thelema5> :P

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04:54 <iandalton> I read something good recently, The Jungle Book. I was inspired to after seeing the new movie.

04:54 <iandalton> Kipling is not at all what I expected. I thought he'd be a stuffy Victorian gentleman

04:54 <Sour_Sweet> Turns out classics are quite good

04:54 <iandalton> Like all too many characters in a Sherlock Holmes story

04:54 <Thelema5> I actually really enjoyed the new animation....

04:54 <Sour_Sweet> Don't go back too far though - you'll be shocked

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04:55 <Thelema5> I didn'texpect to.

04:55 <iandalton> Sour_Sweet I've read the Iliad, that's pretty far back :P

04:55 <Sour_Sweet> iandalton: I meant like the original Hansel and Gretel. Very dark ...

04:55 <iandalton> ah, I've read some original folktales anyway

04:56 * Thelema5 eats the characters up

04:56 <iandalton> They inspire the magical creatures in my D&D games

04:56 <iandalton> My elves are more folktale elves than Tolkien elves

04:57 <iandalton> chaotic, always up to some mischief, possibly that will bode ill for common folk

04:57 <Thelema5> Like Wood Elves?

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04:57 <iandalton> Wood elves?

04:58 <RazorSharpFang> Implying that elves aren't 'common folk'

04:58 <iandalton> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulduf%C3%B3lk

04:58 <iandalton> They're the hidden folk

05:00 <Thelema5> Wood Elves: g that elves aren't 'common folk'

05:00 <Thelema5> [00:57] <iandalton> https://en.wiki

05:00 <Thelema5> er, that's not at all what I meant to paste.

05:00 <iandalton> I don't know why my whole link didn't appear, but look up Huldufólk

05:00 <Thelema5> Silly client.

05:01 <Sour_Sweet> Looks fine to me ;-)

05:01 <Thelema5> Wood elves: http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Wood_elf

05:01 <iandalton> A good example of elves causing mischief is the English folktale adaptation of the story of Orpheus in the underworld, called Sir Orfeo

05:01 <iandalton> His wife, Heurodys, is taken by the Elf king

05:02 <iandalton> They appear at noon while she is taking a nap under an imp-tree, meaning a tree with grafted branches. Noon is the fairy witching hour

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05:04 <Thelema5> so salacious

05:04 <Thelema5> XD

05:05 <iandalton> Looks like Forgotten Realms lore is very intricate, does that come from both game books and novels?

05:06 <Vulpor> Hey chumps and chumpettes

05:06 <Vulpor> whats the happs

05:06 * Vulpor is feeling very Bender tonight

05:07 <iandalton> on a bender?

05:07 <Vulpor> Bender Bending Rodriegez

05:07 <iandalton> Thelema5 I've got a good D&D story. I ran a game for my sister (now 12) and her friend last night

05:07 <Vulpor> from Futurama

05:07 <Vulpor> lol

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05:13 <Vulpor> holy crap

05:13 <iandalton> I guess the story will have to wait till another time

05:13 <Vulpor> someone cracked the Sega Saturn's DRM

05:13 <iandalton> better late than never

05:14 <Vulpor> get ready for some roms people

05:14 <Vulpor> Nights can live on

05:14 <Vulpor> lol

05:14 <RazorSharpFang> Why would the sega saturn have DRM?

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05:15 <iandalton> same reason any other games do?

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05:39 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

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05:46 <RazorSharpFang> Hey ConfusionRift

05:46 * ConfusionRift waves.

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05:54 <Not-Renny> How goes, ConfusionRift?

05:55 <ConfusionRift> It was an alright day.

05:55 * Surreal_Nightmares scarfs on ConfusionRift

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06:13 <RazorSharpFang> Just finished watching the recent DBZAbridged episodes. Good stuff.

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06:27 <Schism> Hum.  Box of KD, can of tuna, can of peas.  Good stuff.

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06:28 <RazorSharpFang> Canned peas? Huh. I'd thought peas would be best frozen in bags.

06:28 <Schism> They are, but eh, canned peas are fine for something as small as this.

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06:31 <unicodingunicorn> whatcha doing, Schism?

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06:31 <Gladiolus> SRQ would like to apologize for cussing in his quit message >.>

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06:32 <ConfusionRift> Denied! (destroys with solar beam)

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06:33 <Schism> unicodingunicorn: Making some macaroni and cheese with tuna and peas.

06:33 <Sombra> I think I'm gonna buy back my cz-75

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06:34 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Wat.

06:34 <ConfusionRift> ...why did you sell it?! ;_;

06:35 <RazorSharpFang> Maybe a bill needed paying?

06:35 <RazorSharpFang> Credit card bills are the classic

06:37 <Sombra> That, also to buy a russian VEPR

06:37 * Sleeping_Nightmares climbs onto ConfusionRift's head and uses one of his ears as a pillow

06:37 <Sombra> Which I in turn sold to buy a 1911 commander

06:38 <ConfusionRift> But... the... then... how... ugh.

06:38 <Schism> Sombra: I'm chuckling at the whole CS:GO gambling situation...

06:38 <Sleeping_Nightmares> It's so stupid...

06:39 <Schism> Oh, it really is.

06:39 <RazorSharpFang> People are stupid in the general case.

06:39 <ConfusionRift> And old.

06:39 <RazorSharpFang> That's why casino's work

06:39 <Sleeping_Nightmares> I'm just gonna stick with skin trading...

06:39 <RazorSharpFang> Casino's don't make money by consistently filling people's coffers.

06:39 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Sleep time.

06:40 <Sombra> I swap things often.

06:41 <ConfusionRift> Laters Sleeping_Nightmares.

06:41 <Sombra> Get something, get excited, get bored, sell it to get something else.

06:41 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait... ooooh. Never mind.

06:42 <RazorSharpFang> Sombra: That sounds like a significant capital sink.

06:42 <Schism> RSF: Casinos actually /do/ get richer, no matter who wins - the house is always, in the long run, making money, even if it's on the order of 1-2%.

06:43 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: Hence, my statement stands.

06:43 <Sombra> A bit yes

06:44 <Sombra> Except luckily for me I sold my CZ to a friend, and he's willing to sell it back to me for the same price.

06:47 <Schism> Hum... macaroni and cheese has an expiry date.  Well, I mean, of course it does, but still.

06:47 <unicodingunicorn> freeze dried?

06:47 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: Very few things don't have an expiry date.

06:47 <RazorSharpFang> Even plastic expires.

06:48 <Schism> Well, yes, RSF.  And no, boxed pasta with cheese powder next to it.

06:49 * Heartbreak starts booping Schism.

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06:49 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: I mean, even frozen meat won't last forever.

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06:51 <iandalton> Hello, HB

06:51 <iandalton> System won't let me just say 'Hi' to you

06:52 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: Even canned food will last at least 5 years, according to the USDA.

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06:54 * Schism nods to RSF. "Well, yah. And as for MREs..."

06:54 <Schism> https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2008-03-09

06:56 <RazorSharpFang> MRE?

06:57 <iandalton> meals ready to eat

06:58 <Schism> Whether this acronym is a case of severe irony depends on who you ask.

06:58 <RazorSharpFang> I haven't heard of that one.

06:58 <RazorSharpFang> Does baked beans count as MREs?

06:58 <Schism> RSF: MREs are military rations, actually.

06:59 <ConfusionRift> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/MRE_20071124.PNG

06:59 <iandalton> that's what they are, but not what it stands for

07:00 <RazorSharpFang> "Commercial resale is unlawful"

07:00 <Schism> I know, but you already said what the acronym stands for.  Many do contain baked beans, but most are simply carefully packed nutritional rations for troops.

07:00 <iandalton> MREs are for when you are out of reach of normal military food preparation facilities

07:00 <Schism> Yeah, MREs tend to wind up at surplus stores a lot.

07:00 <iandalton> they're higher calorie than the regular meal because they're for when you're stuck in extreme conditions

07:00 <Schism> While /technically/ illegal, nobody looks too hard at them.

07:01 <RazorSharpFang> I don't understand the irony of the acronym.

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07:01 <Schism> "Meals, rarely edible."

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07:01 <iandalton> Most recently, MREs have been developed using the Dietary Reference Intake, created by the Institute of Medicine (IOM). The IOM indicated servicemembers (who were classified as highly active men between the ages of 18 and 30) typically burn about 4,200 Calories (kcal) a day

07:02 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: Oh, so they probably taste awful?

07:02 <iandalton> so if you're just going backpacking you probably shouldn't eat those MREs sold in the surplus store

07:02 <ConfusionRift> MRE = Meal Ready to Eat. Meals which are NOT to just be eaten as they stand.

07:02 <iandalton> I've heard MREs aren't bad tasting, I guess it depends on the meal and the person tho

07:02 <Schism> RSF: It's a long-running joke that you only eat MREs when you absolutely have to.  Whether or not this still applies is hard to say.

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07:03 <iandalton> it's not a joke, it's how they're designed

07:04 <Schism> (In Estee's fanfics, there's a similar substance by Celestia from olden times, called 'hurry-up mix', so called because, 'We'd better hurry up and find a restaurant, or she'll make THAT mix again.')

07:04 <iandalton> in ordinary conditions you should be eating from the mess

07:04 <Schism> And actually, hm, makes sense.

07:04 <Sombra> Depends

07:04 <RazorSharpFang> mess?

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07:04 <Schism> Mess hall, military kitchen.

07:04 <iandalton> where the troops eat

07:05 <ConfusionRift> They're meant as emergency food anyways.

07:05 <Schism> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mess

07:05 <Schism> Yeah, cheaper to feed your troops all at once via kitchen.

07:05 * ConfusionRift makes a mess in Schism's kitchen. "Dinner's ready!" :P

07:06 <Schism> No, no, that would be 'a mess /of/'.  <.<

07:06 <Schism> Hum, nom.  Mac 'n' cheese and peas and tuna.

07:07 <ConfusionRift> Yeah! Chikin and rice!

07:07 <Schism> I should make that again sometime.  Chicken and rice and mushroom soup and cheddar cheese.

07:07 <ConfusionRift> Not sure I should just continue The Division, or Aquaria.

07:07 <Schism> !flip

07:07 * DerpyBot flips a muffin

07:07 * DerpyBot catches the muffin with her hoof, correct side up

07:08 <Schism> The Division, I guess.

07:08 <ConfusionRift> ...guess so.

07:08 * ConfusionRift sighs and prepares the console.

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07:26 * Schism hums, "Same as it ever was, same as it ever was..."

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07:29 <iandalton> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9CjnDufqeQ

07:29 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

07:29 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Talking Heads Don't Worry About The Government (HQ)

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07:44 <Schism> "Please.  Ponies suddenly bursting out into song?  Who /does/ that?"

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07:50 <iandalton> Schism read anything lately? or did I already ask that

07:50 <Schism> Well, the fanfic 'All-American Girl' is one I'm trying to refresh my memory of, because it's been quite a while since it last updated.

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07:51 <NewNickName> hood day lads

07:51 <iandalton> Oh, wasn't it Princess_Twilight who recommended it?

07:52 <Schism> Dunno, maybe?

07:52 <iandalton> that was a long time ago

07:52 <iandalton> 2013 I believe

07:52 <iandalton> unfortunately due to a system failure I lost my logs

07:52 <iandalton> or rather an error in my backup setup

07:54 <Schism> Alas.  But yeah, old old fic, but still a good one.

07:54 <iandalton> what is so good about it?

07:55 <Schism> Eh, pretty strong characterization and problems which don't automatically get solved by good luck or deus ex machinae.

07:57 <iandalton> that would be di ex machinis

07:57 <Schism> True, ah well.

07:58 <iandalton> I had to look it up

07:58 <Schism> Also, I'm dead.  http://theglen.livejournal.com/389635.html

07:59 <Schism> "Using my animal influence ability to send countless animals on a suicide attack is fine, but not to form a chorus line."

07:59 <iandalton> this is a long post, will you point out any particular section?

07:59 <Schism> Oh, there's a lot of them.

08:00 <Schism> Seriously, so very many laughs.  Mr. Welch is a lunatic.

08:00 <iandalton> The ability to calculate Thaco in your head does not increase attractiveness.

08:00 <iandalton> I'd find it attractive

08:02 <Schism> "Despite its tremendous cost to benefit ratio, bubblewrap is not a staple of black ops."

08:02 <iandalton> Last night I was explaining to my players how alignment worked in original D&D. there is a cosmic conflict between the forces of law and chaos, and then there are those in the middle. My elf player said she was lawful, but later passed me a note saying she was secretly siding with chaos

08:03 <Schism> Certainly sounds like the work of a chaotic character.

08:03 <iandalton> yeah, it was great

08:03 <iandalton> and totally what I'd expect of an elf

08:04 <Schism> Bahahahaha.  "I will remember that if any samurai sounds like Takeshi Shimura, we will all end up sounding like Takeshi Shimura."

08:05 <iandalton> who's that?

08:06 <Schism> One of the greatest actors of all time, mostly.

08:06 <iandalton> "Well if he's so great, then why haven't *I* heard of him?"

08:07 <Schism> Harrumph.  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0793766/

08:08 <iandalton> sure that's the same guy? his name is spelled different

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08:11 <Not-Renny> Finwe, åååååå

08:12 <iandalton> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f488uJAQgmw

08:12 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Kollektivet: Music Video - ÆØÅ (Size Matters)

08:12 <iandalton> ohh wait

08:13 <iandalton> It's been a while since I listened to that, it has profanity

08:13 <iandalton> my apologies

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08:37 <Finwe> Mr Not-Renny.

08:38 * Finwe doffs his å.

08:38 <Finwe> Also, Messrs iandalton and Schism.

08:38 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.

08:38 * Not-Renny puts Finwe on an ö

08:38 * Finwe doffs his hat.

08:38 * Schism doffs his mac 'n' cheese.

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08:39 * RENSleep sover brevdid Finwe

08:39 <Finwe> *bredvid o3o

08:39 <RENSleep> My dyslexia transcends language barriers o3o

08:40 <RENSleep> God natt, Finwe~

08:40 <Finwe> Bagaren Bengt Bengtsson bor bredvid berget; bakar bara bruna, brända bullar.

08:40 <Finwe> o3o

08:40 <Finwe> God natt, RENSleep.

08:40 <Schism> Oh dear.  You know about 'Blink Dogs' in D&D, yes?

08:41 <Finwe> Schism: Yup.

08:41 <Finwe> Not very surprisingly, they're dogs that "blink".

08:41 <Schism> "I will not finish any sentence containing the phrase 'Blink Ferrets'."

08:42 <iandalton> Finwe that is not to say that they posses the unremarkable ability to close and then reopen their eylids (but nor is it to say that they don't)

08:42 <Finwe> Indeed-

08:43 <RENSleep> I forget those exist in other languages, Finwe :P

08:43 <Finwe> s/-/\./

08:43 <Finwe> The D&D blink is random teleport over a short distance, eeenope?

08:44 <iandalton> Sounds about right

08:44 <iandalton> let me take my Monster Manual in hand

08:45 <iandalton> "These brown and yellowish creatures are as intelligent as normal humans and have a fairly complex language consisting of barks, yaps, whines, and growls. They are also able to use a limited form of teleportation (the blink). In attack, pack members will blink in and out in a random fashion at random intervals, teleporting individuals having a 75% chance of appearing behind the opponent. Blinking is an inborn instinct, and it never

08:45 <iandalton> allows the animal to reappear in a space already occupied by a solid object. If seriously threatened, the entire pack will blink out and not return. There is a great enmity between blink dogs and displacer beasts and the two creatures will always attack each other. If encountered in their lair there is a 50% chance there will be from 3-12 pups. These young are worth from 1000 to 2000 gold pieces on the market as they can be tamed and

08:45 <iandalton> trained."

08:46 <Schism> And so then you have Blink Ferrets.  Nasty little variant.  <.<

08:46 <iandalton> Monster Manual: the original Pokédex

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08:54 * Finwe releases a pack of blink ferrets into Schism's apartment.

08:54 <Finwe> Mr Pony_69313.

08:54 * Finwe doffs his hat.

08:54 * Pony_69313 pouts, nickserv is being silly

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08:54 <unicodingunicorn> hah yay!

08:55 * Finwe has no option but to boop the pouting unicodingunicorn.

08:55 * unicodingunicorn eeps and scrunchy-muzzles, and counterboops Finwe!

08:56 <Finwe> *scrunch*

08:58 <iandalton> Finwe and earlier discussion in here led me to reuptake Lewis Carroll's Euclid and his Modern Rivals. Have you ever heard of it?

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09:08 <Finwe> iandalton: It was published under his real name, I think.

09:08 <Finwe> Charles Dodgson.

09:09 <iandalton> Maybe so, but my edition lists Lewis Carroll on the cover, probably in deference to his current fame under that name

09:10 <iandalton> his legal name only parenthetically appears on the title page

09:10 <Finwe> https://archive.org/stream/euclidandhismode000469mbp#page/n5/mode/2up

09:10 * Schism also boops the Finwe with some stroopwafels with coffee.

09:11 <iandalton> https://www.amazon.com/Euclid-Modern-Rivals-Dover-Mathematics/dp/0486495663

09:11 <Finwe> iandalton: I haven't read the book, but it sounds quite interesting.

09:11 <iandalton> pity, mine omits that quote from the title page

09:12 <iandalton> I'm finding it quite interesting

09:12 <iandalton> The original Wikipedia logo included a quote from the preface, which shows that he conveyed the same wit in his technical writing as he did in his popular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_logos#The_first_official_logo

09:13 <Finwe> Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?

09:14 <iandalton> no, not that, but a selection from within the preface

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09:15 <iandalton> But that does encapsulate his own words in shorter form

09:15 <Finwe> That was the quote in the beginning of the first chapter.

09:15 <Finwe> o3o

09:16 <iandalton> Yeah, I see

09:17 <Schism> Well, the preface.

09:17 * Schism giggles his way through the first few pages.

09:23 <iandalton> Sticking to Euclid would certainly solve the problem of the endless proliferation of expensive textbooks, but I hear that's mostly an American problem. How is it with you, Finwe?

09:23 <Schism> iandalton: Recall that Lewis Carroll was English.

09:24 <iandalton> I didn't say that HE complained about the rising cost of textbooks, his problems are more ideological than financial

09:25 <Finwe> iandalton: Elementary school textbooks are free for pupils. In college/high school/upper secondary, depending on your system, we had to buy textbooks.

09:26 <iandalton> And did they ever cost over a hundred Euro?

09:26 <Schism> In the US and Canada, in upper secondary school, books are still provided free of charge to pupils, but a replacement cost is incurred if they are damaged.

09:26 <Finwe> No, not really. More like €20 to €30.

09:26 <Schism> (Same for primary, really.)

09:27 <Schism> College textbooks, meanwhile, go for something like $100 a pop.

09:27 <iandalton> Here, only the classics can be got so cheap

09:27 <iandalton> My math textbooks were often nearly $200

09:27 <Schism> And most notably, said textbooks change - just barely! - on common occasion, leading the students to require new ones for their courses rather than buying them secondhand.

09:28 <iandalton> well, I see that my calculus textbook is $300 MSRP

09:28 <Schism> Knuth, for all that his books cost a pretty penny, at least publishes errata and changes on his website free of charge.

09:28 <iandalton> Like I said, I heard this is an American problem

09:28 <iandalton> I don't know why though

09:28 <Finwe> University textbooks are a completely different thing, but then again not necessarily needed.

09:28 <Schism> But then, Knuth is a class act... yeah, it does seem more and more like a uniquely American/Canadian problem.

09:29 <Finwe> The most expensive one ever was the book in theoretical mechanics, €140 or so.

09:30 <Schism> Not exactly the kind of field that you get a lot of folks in, though.

09:30 <Finwe> My first university math books cost €20 apiece and were written by the lecturer himself.

09:30 <iandalton> Yes, I do recall hearing that being more common in Europe

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09:31 <Finwe> In the foreword he stated that "This is not and will not become Yankee-Calculus. The texts are compact in a small country."

09:31 <CleverDerpy> hiya

09:31 <Finwe> Lt CleverDerpy!

09:31 <Finwe> _o7

09:31 * Finwe glomps the CleverDerpy.

09:31 <CleverDerpy> RAdm Finwe!

09:31 * CleverDerpy salutes and eeps

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09:31 <iandalton> haha

09:32 <CleverDerpy> I got some news

09:32 <Finwe> :0

09:32 <Finwe> What news?

09:32 <CleverDerpy> i was playing pokemon go, i caught one of the rarest types

09:32 <CleverDerpy> ghost~

09:32 <Finwe> Yay!

09:32 <CleverDerpy> i caught a ghastly

09:32 <Schism> That must have been a gastly chase.  o3o

09:32 <CleverDerpy> it came out of nowhere

09:32 <CleverDerpy> i think the little guy was lonely

09:32 <Schism> As they're wont to do.  Now, find yourself an Abra.

09:33 <CleverDerpy> got one of those too

09:33 <Schism> Oh, cool.  I wonder if it follows Gen1 rules and Kadabra only evolves upon a trade.

09:33 <CleverDerpy> nope, it's all by cnadies

09:34 <CleverDerpy> you get 3 each one you catch

09:34 <unicodingunicorn> ooh

09:34 <CleverDerpy> and 1 more if you trade it to the professor

09:34 <Finwe> iandalton: And indeed, where any American calculus book uses several pages to explain matrix multiplication, in his book there was a box with the definition "If C = AB, then c_{ij} = \sum_{k=1}^{n}a_{ik}b_{kj}."

09:34 * unicodingunicorn yays for CleverDerpy!

09:34 <CleverDerpy> most 2 stage evoes are 25 candies, then 50

09:34 <Finwe> And one example. o3o

09:34 <CleverDerpy> 1 stage evos can be 50 or 80

09:35 <CleverDerpy> although eevee is 25

09:35 <CleverDerpy> it's the only need to evolve

09:35 <iandalton> Finwe oh dear, if the whole book goes on like that, I can see why he was unable to make it long enuf to justify charging $300

09:37 <Finwe> His books were Principles of Real Analysis (abbreviated [RealAnal]) and Principles of Algebra and Geometry (abbreviated [AG]).

09:38 <Schism> "There is nothing men object to so emphatically as being transferred by ghosts from place to place."

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09:39 <Finwe> Neither was hardback, and they were printed at our own university press to make them as affordable as possible for students.

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09:41 <CleverDerpy> Schism, i have a ghost

09:41 <Finwe> And for the second basic course in math he published another one, called Multivariate Calculus.

09:41 <iandalton> A few years ago our math department made a collective decision to switch to a new calculus textbook for reasons I forget, this was in the middle of me taking calculus classes so I had to buy a second textbook. This is referring to 'baby calculus' (as they call it), of course. I also have a book for calculus with proofs

09:41 <CleverDerpy> and i'm carrying it from place to place

09:42 <Schism> But you're not being transported /by/ the ghost.

09:42 <iandalton> $134 new

09:43 <Schism> In the /middle of a semester?/

09:43 <iandalton> no, between semesters

09:44 <Schism> Well, that's somewhat better, but yeesh.

09:44 <iandalton> There are three 'baby calculus' courses

09:44 <iandalton> I think it was between 1 and 2

09:44 <iandalton> but the price tag is for the textbook I bought for the subject variously known as 'calculus with proofs,' 'advanced calculus,' and 'advanced analysis'

09:45 <iandalton> which is a further two classes

09:45 <Finwe> What is advanced analysis? Mesure theory?

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09:46 <iandalton> Finwe I don't know how your university does it but at mine, in the first three calculus classes, theorems are presented without proof. They're required for many non-math majors.

09:46 <RazorSharpFang> Sleepy time, cyas everyone.

09:46 <Finwe> Good nigh, RazorSharpFang.

09:47 <RazorSharpFang> Byees

09:47 <iandalton> The advanced calculus courses prove everything from the axioms

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09:47 <Finwe> iandalton: Umm, we always did the proofs, possibly skipping the parts that required some advanced matters.

09:47 <iandalton> this should link to the table of contents https://www.amazon.com/Working-Analysis-Jeffery-Cooper/dp/0121876047/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468402928&sr=8-1&keywords=working+analysis+cooper#reader_0121876047

09:48 <iandalton> Finwe did even engineering students have to take a class involving proofs?

09:49 <iandalton> either this increased the workload, reduced the amount of practice they got with using the results, or reduced the amount of material covered

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09:52 <MisterRogers> Dreams are weirds

09:52 <CleverDerpy> Schism, true true~

09:53 <Finwe> I'm not sure, we had several sets of basic courses. The L series was for engineering physics and mathematics (that's us) and those intrested or called, the C series was for surveyors, CS and industrial management, the S series was for electrical engineering, the K series for mechanical and civil engineering and the P series for chemical engineering and woodworking; each series tailored for the students who would attend it.

09:53 <iandalton> Finwe oh, I guess that's one advantage of a large university. We just don't have the volume.

09:54 <Schism> Randomly: ... the creators of the Gears of War series, 'Splash Damage', have been bought out by Leyou, a Chinese company which supplies... chickens.

09:54 <Finwe> We're not very large, 12,000 students at that time.

09:54 <iandalton> The same problem appeared when I was a CS major taking a database course, GIS majors also had to take it so it omitted some important topics

09:54 <Finwe> University of Helsinki is tree times that.

09:55 <iandalton> we have ~7k undergrads

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09:56 <Finwe> When Helsinki School of Economics was incorporated to our university the number of students went up to 15,000.

09:57 <Schism> ... well, I'm not sure if this is the greatest hack I've heard of this year, but it's certainly up there.  Mappers in the Faroe Islands, a northern Atlantic archipelago, have grown weary of Google not providing them with Street View pictures.  So they decided to do things in a different way, by attaching 360 degree cameras and GPS units to... sheep.

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09:58 <MisterRogers> I just had a dream about floating around on a giant book with 4 of the mane six on a quiet ocean where we used load balancing and friction tension to keep it floating, I also saw my mathematics teacher from 1-2nd grade high school  on her desk on the ocean smiling at me while I floated past her.

09:58 <MisterRogers> Odd..

09:59 <iandalton> It's an omen

09:59 <MisterRogers> That was all info from 3 days ago.

09:59 <MisterRogers> Why process it now?

10:01 * Finwe noms on Schism's sheep.

10:01 * Schism sets a slice of raspberry chocolate cheesecake on Finwe's nose.

10:02 <MisterRogers> I can actually recall where I got that info from, which is pretty cool..

10:02 * Finwe saves the cheesecake for dessert.

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10:12 <Finwe> Hello, CleverYuki.

10:14 <Schism> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_QEybrMMs - Hee.  (And you can drag the video around to see other angles.)

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10:21 <Finwe> Forget Goat Simulator, here comes the SheepCam (TM).

10:22 <Finwe> Umm... SheepView 360°, that is.

10:30 <iandalton> Schism When a dwarf goes to the surface for the first time, I can't cast levitate on him.

10:36 <Schism> Hehe.

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10:53 <ConfusionRift> That's awesome. (notices how it works)

11:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #554 [ http://tinyurl.com/j4redlh ]

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11:03 <Schism> The Derpiest batpone.

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11:19 * ConfusionRift pets Unixkitty. :P

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11:20 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah! :P

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11:46 <Schism> Snrk.  "What castle?  I've been standing here so long, my whole world has become this door and this bit of hallway."

11:54 <fyrepony> http://mvlehti.net/2016/07/13/video-kun-rekkamies-ei-usko-tai-ymmarra-selvaa-varoitusta-kieltoa-ja-kehotusta/

11:57 <ConfusionRift> And sleepy time. Laters.

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12:13 <Electron> Nerds.

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12:41 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Gigantic 718 Pokerap Pony PMV [ http://tinyurl.com/gv32d5d ]

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12:45 * Electron peeks into the chat wondering what all ponies are doing

12:46 * unicodingunicorn noms on BaconHair!

12:48 * SunsetShimmer noms back

12:49 * fyrepony is gaming and watching pictures of oc's

12:50 <fyrepony> i should commission another

12:53 <Not-Renny> I haven't done one in forever fyrepony, but I'm cheap ._.

12:53 <fyrepony> how much in dollars?

12:53 <fyrepony> also your devian art page would be cool

12:53 <Not-Renny> It depends on the piece. Something real simple's like $5

12:54 <fyrepony> yeah thats cheap as hell

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12:56 <Not-Renny> Well, if it's simple enough >_>

12:57 <Not-Renny> My Tumblr is renissancebrony.Tumblr.com or something close to that, that's where I keep most of the pictures.

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12:59 <Not-Renny> Here's this, fyrepony http://alesmuller.deviantart.com

13:00 * Not-Renny flops at Electron

13:00 <Electron> Oi.

13:01 <Not-Renny> How goes, silly pon?

13:01 <fyrepony> Not-Renny:  http://alesmuller.deviantart.com/art/Jungle-Sketch-Do-397961874   o3o

13:01 <fyrepony> this needs to be on reddit

13:02 <Not-Renny> Reddit?

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13:03 <fyrepony> https://www.reddit.com/r/mylittlepony/

13:03 <Not-Renny> I guess that would be a thing.

13:03 <Not-Renny> I've not ever Reddit though. :l

13:04 <Not-Renny> This has more silly schtuff https://derpibooru.org/profiles/R3nny

13:07 <Electron> I'm enjoying my day off, Not-Renny.

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13:19 <Not-Renny> That is good, Electron c:

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13:31 <Jellara> HoI

13:31 <SunsetShimmer> Aloha

13:32 <unicodingunicorn> heya

13:33 <Jellara> Just saying. This is Jellara :P - http://i.imgur.com/yUqO6gX.png

13:34 <Jellara> Goop of Strawberry Jelly.

13:34 <unicodingunicorn> d´aww

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13:45 <Electron> Hi, Jellara.

13:45 <Jellara> HoI

13:45 <Jellara> I am going to play Rejuvenation.

13:45 <Jellara> If you want to join to watch me, You can :P

13:46 <Jellara> I am screensharing the game.

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13:52 <Not-Renny> Why would this be on reddit, fyrepony? :p

13:53 <fyrepony> its cool art

13:54 <Not-Renny> Oh

14:01 * Electron volumes up some hard rock

14:01 * Electron head-bangs

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14:04 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

14:04 * Not-Renny rocks back and forth in time to Electron's rock

14:04 * Electron blasts hard rock to Thelema5's ears

14:04 <Not-Renny> Hi hi, Thelema5~

14:04 <Electron> Hi.

14:08 <Thelema5> What's new?

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14:13 <Finwe> o3o

14:14 <Finwe> Messrs Electron, fyrepony, Not-Renny, SunsetShimmer and Thelema5.

14:14 * Finwe doffs his gorgonzola sandwich.

14:15 <Thelema5> Hiya, Finwe

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14:16 <NewNickName> guys

14:16 <NewNickName> who is lotus and who is aloe

14:17 <Finwe> Le lotus bleu. o3o

14:17 <NewNickName> le

14:18 <Finwe> http://entredeuxguerres.e-monsite.com/medias/album/le-lotus-bleu.jpg

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14:22 <SunsetShimmer> !link aloe

14:22 <DerpyBot> https://derpiboo.ru/772494

14:22 <SunsetShimmer> Thats no help. x3

14:23 <NewNickName> lol

14:23 <NewNickName> :D

14:23 <fyrepony> troll derpy

14:23 <NewNickName> very helpful :D

14:23 <fyrepony> !link lotus

14:23 <DerpyBot> http://derpiboo.ru/523550

14:23 <SunsetShimmer> https://derpiboo.ru/523047 - anyway, there

14:23 <Finwe> Troller Derpy

14:23 <SunsetShimmer> aloe.

14:23 <NewNickName> thanks

14:23 <NewNickName> always wondered

14:23 <NewNickName> wich is who

14:24 * Thelema5 makes a lotus blossom sandwich

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14:28 <Thelema5> !log

14:28 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html

14:38 <Divide[Alt]> I swear to Eris, if I ever get my hands on a security support scammer I will take a cheese grater and acetic acid to them, dance on their hipbones, throttle them to an inch of their worthless little lives, AND THEN I'LL GET STARTED.

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14:39 <Electron> Howdy, Finwe.

14:41 * Finwe boops Divide|Tech with a gorgonzola sandwich.

14:41 * Divide|Tech applies marmite to the sandwich. o3o

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14:41 <Finwe> Lt The_Nostalgia_Mare!

14:41 <Finwe> _o7

14:41 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Radm. Finwe. (Salutes)

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14:55 <Not-Renny> Ohey Crimson_Tail

14:56 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: New Character And Guest Star For Upcoming Episode Revealed [ http://tinyurl.com/j8qpzpq ]

14:56 <SunsetShimmer> Man, even the guest star this season is underwhelming.

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14:56 <SunsetShimmer> I don't even know who they are, THAT'S how underwhelming it is there. x3

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15:15 <Divide|Tech> ... oi.  "I store things in my Recycle Bin, but they keep getting cleared out!"

15:16 <Finwe> "Stop using the 'Empty Recycle Bin' function."

15:17 <Finwe> Ok, I moved the files to /tmp/, but they still keep disapperaring.

15:17 <Finwe> o3o

15:17 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> SunsetShimmer, Its Patton Oswalt..very under the Radar VA...

15:17 <Electron> "I installed a virus and now my free space is getting bigger and bigger."

15:17 <SunsetShimmer> Yes, I saw who it WAS, and the comments section was very informative. :P

15:18 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yeah..

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15:18 <Finwe> Lt MarsToSirius!

15:18 <Finwe> _o7

15:18 <MarsToSirius> o3o7

15:18 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> MarsToSirius, New Hero.

15:18 <MarsToSirius> RAdm. Finwe.

15:18 * Finwe glompsnuggles MarsToSirius.

15:18 * MarsToSirius boops The_Nostalgia_Mare with grandma sniper.

15:19 <MarsToSirius> Gonna be interesting to see how the meta develops once people get better with her grenade and dart. The Zenyatta buff's kinda stepping on her toes tho

15:19 <MarsToSirius> Her scope needs to add more of a benefit rather than just making the dart hitscan

15:20 <iandalton> Finwe that chinese character on the Tintin cover looks ghastly

15:20 <Finwe> o3o

15:20 <iandalton> someone without a knowledge of the principles of character creation tried copying the character for 'lotus'

15:20 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Mars, you saw her Skins?

15:21 <iandalton> 蓮

15:21 <Fayth> Someone buy me overwatch. XD

15:21 <MarsToSirius> Yep!

15:21 <Finwe> iandalton: On the paper lantern?

15:22 <MarsToSirius> I haven't played the PTR, but I was watching someone stream the game. I'm liking the Young Ana ones, though her tuskan raider-esque ones... I'm not 100% sold on

15:22 <iandalton> Finwe yeah

15:22 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Those Steven Universe referances, MarsToSirius.

15:22 <MarsToSirius> They're just gems

15:23 <MarsToSirius> Garnet and Peridot are actual gems. o3o

15:23 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Mmm.

15:23 <MarsToSirius> Though yeah, I'll admit that was the first thing I thought of when I saw those names o3o

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15:25 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Still, I'm waiting for a WatchPoint Antartica Map, MarsToSirius..

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15:26 <MarsToSirius> I'd assume it'd be indoors while a storm rages outside.

15:26 <unicodingunicorn> iandalton, I don´t see what´s wrong

15:26 <MarsToSirius> Imagine Junkrat trying to fight in -40 degree weather ;-;

15:26 <SunsetShimmer> MarsToSirius: You have to admit, it's likely the idea was a subtle wink to SU fans there

15:26 <MarsToSirius> I wouldn't put it past them ;p

15:26 <SunsetShimmer> it's not entirely impossible considering.

15:27 <MarsToSirius> Thing is, there are four slots for Rare skins for every character - you could've easily gone with Amethyst, Pearl, Garnet, and Peridot for all four, just make Pearl grayish instead of Watchful's white motif

15:27 <SunsetShimmer> I may never get another timesplitters, but Overwatch scratches my itch for a FPS with some interesting backstory and quirky elements.

15:27 * The_Nostalgia_Mare smiles evily at MarsToSirius, Dressed as Mei. "YESSSSSS....ALL JUNKRATS DESERVE TO FREEEEZE!!"

15:28 <MarsToSirius> but Mei is cute and adorable and not evil ;-;

15:28 <unicodingunicorn> hehe

15:28 <unicodingunicorn> Mei in Egypt

15:28 <iandalton> unicodingunicorn the 艹 on top should not be connected to the 車 below, and in that 車, the top line should be narrower, not wider, than the bottom on, and the botom one should not be connected to the 田 above it

15:28 <SunsetShimmer> Tell that to anyone playing against her, mars. :P

15:28 <MarsToSirius> tru

15:28 <unicodingunicorn> nah looks more like a stylised version

15:28 <MarsToSirius> Freeze a player, stop in place, line up a shot, fire a headshot, and in that time you're just looking into the cutest face of terror

15:29 * The_Nostalgia_Mare giggles as she boops her freeze gun at MarsToSirius and SunsetShimmer.

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15:29 * MarsToSirius ded. x3x

15:29 <iandalton> apparently when making The Blue Lotus he was making friends with a Chinese artist named Chang Chong-jen though, maybe I'm the ignorant one here

15:29 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yay!

15:30 <iandalton> unicodingunicorn the 'stylizations' here don't make sense to me, there's lots of ways to stylize a character but this seems to ignore principles of balance and stroke order in bizarre ways

15:30 <unicodingunicorn> ah I dunno, my calligraphy sense is terrible

15:31 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> MarsToSirius, I wished Mei's Yay Emote was fast or the freeze duration was longer.

15:31 <MarsToSirius> If you make Mei's freeze longer you'd need to cut her offensive capability down

15:31 <MarsToSirius> It's a twoish second slow followed by a one second stun, tha'ts pretty good CC even at close range

15:33 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Hehe.

15:33 <MarsToSirius> Something I'm REALLY digging about Ana though... she's an Arabic woman, acted by a Middle Eastern actress, who speaks Arabic with the correct dialect and even has rhyming phrases with some of her Arabic voice lines

15:34 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yeah.

15:36 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Still, the backstory for Ana...

15:37 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Widowmaker is bad..

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15:42 <iandalton> unicodingunicorn to construct the 車 you'd go top to bottom, left to right. You'd draw a 一、田、丨、一, and the 田 would be the left 丨, top , right 丨, middle 一, and finally the bottom 一. Finally, as far as 車 deviated from equal length strokes, I'd think to see it looking upside down from how it is there, more like data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAA1wAAANcCAYAAABL5a7EAAAgAElEQVR4nOzdW6xtd133/z0Oc8611i673W

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15:42 <iandalton> W+7LjykkOGTHABEQQXkE5wrS87qFZ51uvkyZPZlwueQHABEQQXkE5wrS87pNaZ3/WiLwQXEEFwAekE1/qy42nTZ70gk+ACIgguIJ3gWl92NLUVXh/72MeyLyUTJLiACIILSCe41pcdS22H18tf/vLsS8qECC4gguAC0gmu9fXxbeHbCK/Pf/7z2ZeWCRBcQATBBaQTXOsryzI9kLoML+iS4AIiCC4gneBa39/93d+lh1HX87e86IrgAiIILiCd4NpMdhBFra7r7EvNyAguIILgAtIJrs2M8fe4Dps/oExbBBcQQXAB6QTXZn7qp34qPYKiVxRF841vfCP70jNwgguIILiAdIJrc9kBlDW/38UmBBcQQXAB6QTX5sb8boXL7D3veU/2l4ABElxABMEFpBNc7ciOnuxVVZX9JWBgBBcQQXAB6QRXO6b25h

15:42 <iandalton> n7zd/uYhWCC4gguIB0gqsds9ksPXj6MNHFsgQXEEFwAekEV3uyY6cvE10sQ3ABEQQXkE5wtcfLCkUXyxNcQATBBaQTXO35sR/7sfTQ6dNEF4cRXEAEwQWkE1ztyo6cvs27F3IQwQVEEFxAOsHVLi8rvHB/+Id/mP1loYcEFxBBcAHpBFe7XvziF6cHTt/mpYXsR3ABEQQXkE5wtS87cPq4yy+/PPvLQs8ILiCC4ALSCa72eVnhhfMsF+cTXEAEwQWkE1ztK8syPXD6uHvvvTf7S0OPCC4gguAC0gmu9j3yyCPpcdPHeZaLvQQXEEFwAekEVzey46avg12CC4gguIB0gqsbfo9LcHE4wQVEEFxAOsHVjbqu0+Omj7v66quzvzT0hOACIgguIJ3g6k523PRxVVVlf1noCcEFRBBcQDrB1Z3suOnjFotF9p

15:42 <WorkingData> ..

15:42 <unicodingunicorn> oh my

15:42 <iandalton> eFnhBcQATBBaQTXN3xe1wXDnYJLiCC4ALSCa7u+HtcT5y3hWcvwQVEEFxAOsHVnTvvvDM9cvq02WyW/SWhRwQXEEFwAekEV7eyI6dPg70EFxBBcAHpBFe3siOnLyvLMvtLQc8ILiCC4ALSCa5ueeOM/x6cT3ABEQQXkE5wdcsfQPZmGexPcAERBBeQTnB1Lzt4svfQQw9lfwnoIcEFRBBcQDrB1b3s4PHsFn0kuIAIggtIJ7i6lx09mTt+/Hj25aenBBcQQXAB6QRX96b8xhlwEMEFRBBcQDrB1b2yLNPDJ2PeCp7DCC4gguAC0gmu7l122WXp8ePZLfpGcAERBBeQTnDFyI6f6HmzDI4iuIAIggtIJ7hiZAdQ9Oq6zr7k9JzgAiIILiCd4IqRHUDRg6MILiCC4ALSCa4Y2QEUOS8nZBmCC4gguIB0gi

15:42 <Lumin> ahahaha

15:42 <Coco|Mobile> Nice link

15:42 <iandalton> vGlN4a3rsTsgzBBUQQXEA6wRVjSsEFyxBcQATBBaQTXDGqqkoPIcFFnwguIILgAtIJrhg7OzvpIRQxv7/FsgQXEEFwAekEV5zsGIrYbDbLvswMhOACIgguIJ3gipMdQxGDZQkuIILgAtIJrjjZMSS46BPBBUQQXEA6wRUnO4a6nt/fYhWCC4gguIB0gitOdhB1vaqqsi8xAyK4gAiCC0gnuOJkB1HX+8pXvpJ9iRkQwQVEEFxAOsEVZ+x//BhWIbiACIILSCe44ggueJzgAiIILiCd4Ioz5uDyhhmsSnABEQQXkE5wxSnLMj2Mulpd19mXl4ERXEAEwQWkE1xxxhxcsCrBBUQQXEA6wRWnqqr0MBJc9IXgAiIILiCd4Iozn8/Tw0hw0ReCC4gguIB0givO8573vPQw6mLeMIN1CC4gguAC0gmuWNlx1M

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15:42 <Lumin> '-'

15:42 <Lumin> thanks

15:43 * unicodingunicorn squeaks and hides under Lumin

15:43 <Electron> Japanese is hard.

15:43 * unicodingunicorn boops Electron aggresively

15:43 <unicodingunicorn> not Japanese!

15:43 <Electron> So much symbols for one hieroglyph.

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15:43 <iandalton> AlT3/60y94Fir7wGVm49/eZ6ze8IY3tPJ4JriACIILJu69732vgDKz3mz396yOHz/e+eOf4AIiCC4YsbNnzzaz2UxMmVnvtvcZq4ceeijlMVJwAREEFwzY/fff7536zKzX2+R3rLomuIAIggsG4Oqrr/bHes2st9uNqrIsm9lslv2QuTTBBUQQXNBDn/3sZ8WVmfVme99ptKqq5gd/8AezHyZbIbiACIILeqYsy/TDlZlNa3tj6sSJE9kPg2EEFxBBcEGPXHfddekHLzMb1/a+3G9rayv7Ya5XBBcQQXBBj3gZoZmtsr0xtVgssh/CBkdwAREEF/SI4DKz3Z3/RhR/+qd/mv0QNTqCC4gguKBHqqpKP+SZWffbG1NVVTXf//3fn/3wM0mCC4gguKBnsg+CZrb59r4JxcmTJ7MfVjiA4AIiCC7oGS8rNO

15:43 <Electron> Ah! Aaaaah!

15:43 <iandalton> v3zv+9qe985zvZDxusSXABEQQX9Mwb3/jG9AOl2dQ31D/ky2oEFxBBcEEPeZbLrPvtfdnfTTfdlP1tTwLBBUQQXNBDjz76aPph1GwM242quq6bL3zhC9nf2vSM4AIiCC7oKe9YaLbc9kbVt7/97exvXQZEcAERBBf0mJcWml04f+CXtgguIILggp4TXWZPHLRFcAERBBcMQPYB16xPg7YILiCC4IKB8EyX2X8P2iK4gAiCCwakLMv0w65Z9qAtgguIILhgYO6//37PdtmkB20RXEAEwQUD5dkum+qgLYILiCC4YOCEl+233b9NVZZls1gsmv/8z/88d89kf2ybfl7QFsEFRBBcMBLCa3rbjaqqqprnP//5S98r2R/3pp8ztEVwAREEF4zMXXfd5Xe8RrK9z1K95CUvae0eyf68Nr0m0BbBBUQQXDBiVV

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15:43 <WorkingData> really?

15:43 <unicodingunicorn> *eep*

15:43 * Electron slaps unicodingunicorn's head

15:44 * unicodingunicorn squeaks and falls over

15:44 <Unixkitty> What in the world happened to him

15:44 <SunsetShimmer> Does he NOT realise how IRC functions? o.O

15:44 <Lumin> คคคคคคคคคคคคค

15:44 <SunsetShimmer> I think he tried posting something that disagreed with his IRC client or something...he was typing legibly

15:44 <Lumin> hmm

15:45 <Lumin> looks like he tried pasting the raw text content of an image file

15:45 <SunsetShimmer> I don't know why anyone would.... *Sigh* Silly derp.

15:45 <Unixkitty> Encoded in base64

15:45 <Unixkitty> Not raw

15:45 <Lumin> well you know what I mean

15:45 <Lumin> ILiACIILSCe4gAyCC4gguIB0ggv is repeated quite a few times

15:45 <WorkingData> and he was not even 1/3 done with the image

15:46 <Unixkitty> I wouldn't be surprised if he'd get a timeout from the network for flooding

15:46 <SunsetShimmer> He did

15:46 <Lumin> ahahahaha

15:46 <SunsetShimmer> well, from the chat

15:46 <unicodingunicorn> oh pfft I just got it

15:46 <WorkingData> it's a 860x860 image

15:46 <unicodingunicorn> ^C image ^V in text bar

15:46 <Lumin> How are you finding this out?

15:46 <unicodingunicorn> metadata?

15:47 <Lumin> his client must be worse than mine

15:47 <Lumin> and I use Icechat

15:47 <Lumin> it doesn't do that for me

15:48 <WorkingData> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/110667610/iandalton.png

15:48 <Lumin> wow

15:48 <Lumin> that's impressive that you managed to piece together that from that jumble of text

15:48 <unicodingunicorn> ooh

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15:49 <unicodingunicorn> did you just copy it into text editor and save it as an image?

15:49 <WorkingData> sortof

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15:50 <Lumin> wb

15:50 <roflin> did you have to pad the file with zeroes to get a valid png?

15:50 <Surreal_Nightmares> Nice one.

15:50 <iandalton> If you go to https://www.moedict.tw/%E8%93%AE then click the pencil icon on the upper right you'll see the image I was trying to link

15:51 <Unixkitty> There is no image

15:51 <Surreal_Nightmares> I saw it.

15:51 <WorkingData> doesn't look like the one I got from your wall of text

15:52 <Lumin> http://puu.sh/q0mVy/887c948d3f.png

15:52 <Lumin> something like that?

15:52 <iandalton> well I linked the page for 車 which is a component of that character

15:52 <iandalton> you can go to https://www.moedict.tw/%E8%BB%8A to see it by itself

15:52 <Thelema5> Or here: http://imgur.com/KvHRYJ4

15:53 <WorkingData> yep, that looks like it

15:53 <Surreal_Nightmares> Wait, what the heck is going on?

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15:53 <Lumin> http://puu.sh/q0mZY/5af773cd18.png

15:53 <Lumin> so that's what youw ere trying to post?

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15:53 <WorkingData> doesn't help that the encoded you sent was 860 pixels square, but the image formatted is 211 xD

15:54 <Librarian> kanji?

15:54 <iandalton> I asked a Chinese person and they said " especially when it appears as an art, it won't surprise me no matter how unusual it looks,  especially when it appears as an art, it won't surprise me no matter how unusual it looks"

15:54 <iandalton> oops

15:54 <Surreal_Nightmares> Wat.

15:54 * Thelema5 the confusion doubles

15:54 <iandalton> the first part should have pasted as this does not look strange to me, as I think that there are many writing styles and very few rules on them

15:56 * Surreal_Nightmares is still a bit confused.

15:56 <Librarian> two days to monster hunter!

15:56 <Librarian> yay

15:56 <unicodingunicorn> well it´s art

15:57 <unicodingunicorn> art is strange

15:57 <unicodingunicorn> also for some reason that does not say ¨wrong¨ to me

15:57 <Surreal_Nightmares> Nukes.

15:57 <Surreal_Nightmares> Nuclear snuzzles.

15:57 <Librarian> art is fun

15:58 <iandalton> well my experience with Chinese characters is limited, in class we were told that it's important to follow certain character composition rules

15:58 <iandalton> but as the guy says, there are actually many writing styles, and then in art things will look unusual

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16:00 <Surreal_Nightmares> What is normal is unusual.

16:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: GalaCon Cosplay Announcements [ http://tinyurl.com/hp6gzs5 ]

16:01 <Lumin> so question for ryou FTB players: Who has played with Unstable 1.10?

16:01 <Librarian> chinese is hard

16:01 <iandalton> Librarian it is, but I think the characters are beautiful

16:02 <Surreal_Nightmares> I actually have a grandfather who won a few contests by doing something with the characters...

16:02 <Librarian> i prefer kanji myself, but you are quite right

16:02 <Surreal_Nightmares> I don't remember since it's been so long.

16:03 <unicodingunicorn> there are what now?

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16:03 <iandalton> Librarian don't get me wrong, I think the roman alphabet is beautiful too, they're just beautiful in different ways from each other

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16:04 <Fayth> So I guess there is a yuigoh AR game in the works now too

16:05 <unicodingunicorn> well goodnight everyone

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16:11 <Surreal_Nightmares> Nose scrunch slider...

16:14 <Finwe> iandalton: Yup, it's art, and the picture is from 1936.

16:14 <Finwe> Typography might have changed since then.

16:14 <Fn> No way!

16:15 <Finwe> I spent a good while reading about the changes.

16:15 <iandalton> Finwe this isn't typography but writing, but as I said in a Chinese channel, who knows what he learned about Chinese characters before drawing that comic

16:15 <Finwe> Umm, calligraphy?

16:16 <iandalton> By changes, are you referring to the simplified characters used in the People's Republic of China?

16:16 <Fn> ... My neighbour had a cough attack from smoking and I laughed at the joke in youtube video, and now the neighbour is cussing at me (window is open so there is not much sound separation between my room and their balcony)

16:16 <Finwe> It is also highly probable that Hergé had no knowledge of writing Chinese.

16:16 <Fn> I find it funny, this whole thing

16:16 <Finwe> iandalton: Older things, like how the cock became sparrow.

16:16 <iandalton> Finwe he made friends with a Chinese art student in Brussels before making this comic, it was somewhat of a collaborative work

16:17 <Finwe> I see.

16:18 <iandalton> ah, well the character itself is quite old, as are the general composition principles. The regular script is over 2000 years old, and the Sung style seen in the image is over 1000

16:19 <Surreal_Nightmares> Anyone here play Insurgency?

16:20 <Fn> I do

16:20 <Fn> But stats are wiped because of steam bug

16:20 <Surreal_Nightmares> Rip

16:20 <Fn> So I basically have a shiny new clean Insurgency account

16:20 <Surreal_Nightmares> Wow

16:20 <Fn> And CS:Go

16:20 <Surreal_Nightmares> I just stopped playing CS.

16:21 <Fn> I don't mind though

16:21 <Fn> I had a few VAC bans on the old one for being a jerk

16:22 <Surreal_Nightmares> I'm still clean...

16:22 <iandalton> see you at tonight's CS Anonymous, Surreal_Nightmares

16:23 <Fn> Surreal_Nightmares, my old account borked, and Steam gave me a new one instead with codes to get almost all the games I had for free or 0.99Eur

16:23 <Fn> And then the old account got gud

16:24 <Fn> So I didn't bother to be "sportsmanly" on my old account, treating it as a throwaway

16:24 <Fn> And whenever I encountered a cheater I was mean mean pone to them

16:24 <Fn> Well deserved, but I don't really care

16:25 * ADragonHoarding bonks Fn with the squeaky hammer of shame.

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16:29 <DARK> hello =)

16:31 * MarsToSirius noms on DARK.

16:33 <DARK> =o

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16:37 <Surreal_Nightmares> I'm always friendly, even if the other person is annoying.

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16:44 <MisterRogers> Ehh, question is Twilight actually immortal like Luna is?

16:44 <Surreal_Nightmares> Nah.

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16:45 <MarsToSirius> Technically none of them are immortal. There's theories as to why Luna and Celestia have lived for so long but it's already been stated that Twilight isn't immortal

16:45 <Surreal_Nightmares> ^

16:45 <iandalton> MarsToSirius why do you think none of them are?

16:46 <MisterRogers> That begs the question if spike will outlive Twilight.

16:46 <iandalton> and what's actually been stated, IIRC, is that she won't outlive her friends

16:46 <iandalton> you know what that means...they're all gonna become alicorns!

16:46 <Finwe> o3o

16:46 * MarsToSirius flailyhoofs.

16:46 * Surreal_Nightmares Explodeds!

16:47 <MisterRogers> Or they're going to be in stasis.

16:47 <iandalton> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYjAZExjWOA

16:47 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

16:47 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Pinkie Pie - "Alicorn Party!"

16:47 <Finwe> Magic cake conferring longevity.

16:47 <MarsToSirius> in any case, immortality is kind of a finicky thing to do in fiction - normally in magic-based settings like that, it's some sort of catalyst that keeps the being going past their normal terminal age

16:47 <Finwe> Nom on the cake, live long and prosper.

16:47 <MarsToSirius> Instead of "oh btw I can't die because lol"

16:47 <iandalton> MarsToSirius what's this "normally in magic-based fiction" based on?

16:48 <Finwe> And Princess Luna was conserved in a vacuum for 1,000 years or so.

16:48 <Surreal_Nightmares> She's a zombie!

16:48 <MarsToSirius> The comparison I most often like to make with stuff like this is Harry Potter. Lord of the Rings works as well, but it's the most recent and most popular magical universe we have to look towards

16:49 <MarsToSirius> Voldemort was trying to achieve immortality by, essentially, becoming a lich. Nicolas Flamel from the first book used the Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone to create a lifegiving elixir

16:49 * Finwe noms on Voldemort's phylactery.

16:49 <MisterRogers> A lifegiving elixir a day keeps the doctor away.

16:49 <MarsToSirius> But there isn't a spell or object that's known that'll just ... cancel out death. It's an abhorration of nature.

16:50 <MisterRogers> Life without death seems ever so painful if you were to remember everything.

16:50 <MarsToSirius> Magic - or at least, well-constructed magic - has laws. Pure, ageless immortality with no catalyst or resource is nigh unheard of except in either EXTREMELY well-thought out series... or fanfiction.

16:50 <iandalton> MarsToSirius there are plenty of stories with immortal non-human beings though

16:50 <iandalton> not because they took some elixir

16:50 <iandalton> but just because that's how they are

16:50 <MarsToSirius> Sure, but they're typically not biological beings, or they're gods, or whatnot.

16:51 <iandalton> and Voldemort isn't trying to become a lich, if by that you mean the D&D "transfer your soul to a more durable object" concept

16:51 <MarsToSirius> Or maybe they are, maybe they're like lobsters. But in nature, everything has a beginning and end, and what magic does is augment the rules, not break them in two.

16:51 <Surreal_Nightmares> Lobsters...

16:51 <Surreal_Nightmares> Heh

16:51 <MisterRogers> Some jelly fish don't actually age, essentially immortal really..

16:52 <MarsToSirius> It's a tweaked version of lichdom, and I'd say a fair few of those objects were a lot more durable than skin and flesh.

16:52 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: Discovery Family Celebrate's Second Half of Season 6's Premiere!  [ http://tinyurl.com/j7lzorv ]

16:52 <Surreal_Nightmares> Isn't there this one animal that actually ages backwards?

16:52 <MisterRogers> What makes us think it can't happen with some alicorns?

16:52 <iandalton> Tolkien's elves are naturally immortal. This isn't a violation of nature, it *is* their nature

16:53 <Surreal_Nightmares> I don't think it's right to compare the properties of a universe with another.

16:53 <ADragonHoarding> It depends on the purpose of the comparison.

16:53 <ADragonHoarding> For example, you actually can compare apples to oranges, with the point being that the two are different.

16:54 <iandalton> Surreal_Nightmares he already compared it to Harry Potter

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16:54 <MarsToSirius> I will say this: Tolkien's universe is quite old. Future versions of elves typically place their lifespans in centuries; pure immortality with a race just doesn't really work well as a concept.

16:54 <MisterRogers> I bet Celestia doesn't want everypony to be immortal cause that'd end the cycle of life and death. And stop the transformation of pony DNA.

16:54 <iandalton> MarsToSirius it works fine for Tolkien

16:54 <ADragonHoarding> Assuming ponies have DNA.

16:54 <Finwe> MarsToSirius: It must've been quite crowded in the Halls of Mandos.

16:54 <iandalton> ponies are made of pixels, not DNA

16:54 <MarsToSirius> Some would argue it doesn't. Tolkien is not without his detractors.

16:54 <iandalton> didn't you know?

16:55 <iandalton> MarsToSirius you among them

16:55 <ADragonHoarding> AU in which ponies are actually a fungus.

16:55 <MarsToSirius> Yeah.

16:55 <Surreal_Nightmares> Lol

16:55 <MisterRogers> ADragonHoarding: Well we're assuming a lot here so I might put some comparisons from our reality in there.

16:55 <MarsToSirius> Tolkien was hugely valuable to the concept of fantasy. He's also... kinda flawed. BUt that's a discussion for another time.

16:55 <iandalton> Also what future versions of elves? Let me know when the future gets here, then I'll read those stories

16:55 <Finwe> Horses don't exist. What we know as horse is actually a fruit.

16:56 <ADragonHoarding> Well much of what Tolkien wrote wasn't fully intended for publication, so yes, but yes, discussion for another time.

16:56 <MarsToSirius> With Celestia and Luna... there's nothing that explicitly says they aren't immortal, this is true. But then that brings into question what exactly Celestia *is*, and whether or not anything came before them, which is actually highly likely, considering the universe can't only be a thousand years old.

16:56 <iandalton> And do you think immortality wasn't a common trope before during and after Tolkien?

16:56 <Thelema5> Horses /are/ a fruit, yes.  But like tomatoes they are usually treated as vegetables.

16:57 <ADragonHoarding> I don't think that was ever stated or implied, iandalton.

16:57 <MarsToSirius> It wasn't, and I certainly don't think it wasn't a common trope - it's the wish of almost any human to be able to cheat death, or to have mastery over death in some capacity. I'm only talking from a narrative, storytelling standpoint.

16:57 <MisterRogers> All this fan theorizing made me hungry BRB

16:57 <iandalton> he seems to be mainly attributing the idea of immortal races to Tolkien, although I just raised him as a single example

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16:58 * Surreal_Nightmares is unable to follow along since she's doing some work right now.

16:58 <Fn> Wat? Hoers is a fruit?

16:58 <MarsToSirius> You brought up elves. I was merely following it up. :p

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16:59 <Surreal_Nightmares> Horses are butts.

16:59 <MarsToSirius> To this much we know: Celestia has reigned for a thousand years and is looked upon by her subjects with love and adoration. Whatever her accomplishments in the past, however, she's not the mare she used to be - every time we see her in some sort of combat, she's struggled.

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16:59 <iandalton> I thought she just never had to face any major challenges

17:00 <MarsToSirius> Chrysalis and Tirek would speak otherwise.

17:00 <iandalton> I mean before the show

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17:00 <MarsToSirius> She was wielding the Elements for some time, we know this

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17:01 <Thelema5> Well, her sister did blast her from the sky

17:01 <Finwe> MarsToSirius: And did she not state that Cadenza's foal was the first born alicorn ever?

17:02 <MarsToSirius> That's kind of the rub, ain't it

17:02 <Finwe> So either Celestia and Luna have always existed or they become alicorns after their birth.

17:02 <iandalton> Yeah, headcanon of them starting as earth ponies or something confirmed

17:02 <MarsToSirius> Twilight and Cadance are, VERY likely, the first actual alicorns in existence post-Luna.

17:02 <Finwe> *became

17:03 <Lumin> and that thing Cadance gave birth tyo

17:03 <Lumin> and that thing Cadance gave birth to*

17:03 <MarsToSirius> Prince Blueblood unfortunately makes the entire question about alicorn parentage a bit complicated, considering he's supposed to be Celestia's fifties-great nephew to a sister or brother that has never been mentioned, unless alicorn genes are not guaranteed to be passed on

17:03 <Thelema5> To be fair, celestia specified that the birth of an ailicorn is something which /Equestria/ has never seen.

17:03 <MisterRogers> You guys should read the comics, and I've and should buy physical copies cause they're awesome..

17:04 <iandalton> MarsToSirius maybe nephew is being used loosely

17:04 <Thelema5> Equestria hasn't existed forever, and there is propably a Ancestral Alicorn land

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17:05 <iandalton> Like "bro"

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17:07 <Fn> I touched my eye with salycillic acid on my finger

17:07 <Fn> I am not smart

17:07 <ADragonHoarding> You are not.

17:07 <iandalton> acne stuff?

17:07 <ADragonHoarding> Go wash your eye.

17:08 <Fn> Yes iandalton

17:09 <ADragonHoarding> AU where Alicorns are the result of an alien infestation.

17:09 <Surreal_Nightmares> Riperoni.

17:09 <iandalton> still a pimply-faced youth?

17:09 <Finwe> Salicylic acid. o3o

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17:09 <Finwe> Mr Not-Renny.

17:09 * Finwe doffs his hat.

17:10 <MarsToSirius> It's a royal family though, they'd take those titles pretty seriously

17:10 * Surreal_Nightmares hats on Finwe.

17:10 <Finwe> :0

17:10 <Not-Renny> Herr Finwe

17:10 * Not-Renny doffs Finwe's hat

17:10 * Finwe has a rather surreal hat.

17:11 <Fn> iandalton, no, just my nose decided to do something funny

17:11 <Fn> I have it on and off

17:11 <Fn> My skin is not the best

17:11 <Not-Renny> You clean turn your nose on and off? O3o

17:11 <iandalton> I sympathize

17:12 <iandalton> Not-Renny no he can take it on and off

17:12 <Not-Renny> Whoo

17:12 * Surreal_Nightmares wears Not-Renny as a hat

17:12 * Not-Renny is not a very good hat but tries anyway

17:12 <iandalton> there are some limericks about detachable body parts

17:13 <Finwe> How about the poem about teleportation?

17:14 <Fn> Nose is useless enough part to not mind having a prosthetic instead

17:14 <Finwe> “I teleported home last night with Ron and Sid and Meg

17:14 <Fn> I mean you can pick your style and have one less part to freeze in winter!

17:14 <Finwe> Ron stole Meggy's heart away and I got Sidney's leg.”

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17:17 <ADragonHoarding> Fn: provided you can still smell with your prosthetic nose.

17:18 <Fn> Why wouldn't you?

17:18 <ADragonHoarding> Depends on what happened to cause your original nose to need replacing.

17:18 <Fn> External nose doesn't do that, it's the inside lining of it that does

17:18 <iandalton> ADragonHoarding if you get sprayed by a skunk you'll still smell

17:18 * Thelema5 rimshots

17:19 * ADragonHoarding bads iandalton with the squeaky hammer of deliberate misinterpretation

17:19 <ADragonHoarding> *baps

17:19 * Schism yawns. Bleh. Then curls up for to nap.

17:19 <ADragonHoarding> Nose hairs and etc. are also a portion of the immune system.

17:20 <ADragonHoarding> plus help to act as filters against airborne irritants.

17:20 <Schism> My dog has no nose.

17:20 <SunsetShimmer> Yet he smells.

17:20 <Schism> Terribly.

17:21 * Not-Renny does from pun overdose

17:21 <ADragonHoarding> Body part I wouldn't mind losing? Small toe.

17:21 <iandalton> appendix

17:21 <Surreal_Nightmares> I like my body parts. :U

17:21 <Not-Renny> That is actually important for balance, ADragonHoarding :v

17:21 <ADragonHoarding> Only if I had to, you realize.

17:21 <Schism> "It was clear that the joke... was lethal."

17:21 <Fn> You can have full on replaceable air filters in the prosthetic nose

17:22 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: GalaCon Cosplay Announcements [ http://tinyurl.com/hp6gzs5 ]

17:22 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: New Character And Guest Star For Upcoming Episode Revealed [ http://tinyurl.com/j8qpzpq ]

17:22 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: PMV: Broken Record / Edge Of The World [ http://tinyurl.com/z5rkt4c ]

17:22 <Lumin> whoa there derpy

17:23 <iandalton> !muffin

17:23 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3

17:23 <iandalton> yes

17:23 <DerpyBot> Thank you!!

17:23 * DerpyBot glomps iandalton

17:23 <Thelema5> "Iss not fair.... his girlfriend gave up her toe!"

17:24 <iandalton> haha

17:24 <iandalton> Not that they should believe in fairness

17:24 <Thelema5> Would derpybot automod herself for shotgun posting if equestriadaily posted a dozen new articles at once?

17:27 <SunsetShimmer> I doubt it

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17:27 <Surreal_Nightmares> Lol

17:27 <Not-Renny> The same concept is true for many bionic parts

17:28 * Finwe noms on Not-Renny's bionic parts.

17:28 <ADragonHoarding> Not-Renny: the little toe is a lot less noticeable visually and fairly simple to prothetic.

17:28 <Not-Renny> Lol

17:29 <Not-Renny> I have no bionic parts Finwe :v

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17:33 * Finwe attaches some bionic parts to Not-Renny, then noms on them.

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17:55 <Electron> I just received moneys on my debit card. The thing is I don't know where did they come from. :|

17:56 <Not-Renny> Does the description say anything?

17:57 * Not-Renny puts a bit on Electron's nose

17:58 <Finwe> Electron: Your account transcript should indicate whence the money originates.

18:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Spotlight Electronic Music: Perception / Cantatic  / Adrift  [ http://tinyurl.com/hv86kgh ]

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19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: EQDs Guide to MLP at SDCC 2016 - Exclusives, Events, and More! [ http://tinyurl.com/heyxmgd ]

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19:16 <Electron> I should check it in my back website account, Finwe.

19:16 <Electron> And nope, I do not see who sent it to me, Not-Renny.

19:17 <Electron> That's really weird.

19:20 <Thelema5> Don't crimminals sometimes make small deposits to compromised accounts in order to verify its authenticity?

19:22 <Sour_Sweet> Never heard of that :P

19:22 <Sour_Sweet> Except for you mean Paypal by criminals which is totally valid

19:23 * Sour_Sweet throws a pokéball at Electron and rapidly presses A and B

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19:26 * Electron is looking at Sour_Sweet

19:26 <Electron> Are you okay there?

19:27 <Sour_Sweet> Of course

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19:33 <Sour_Sweet> !link https://derpiboo.ru/1185145

19:33 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about artist:eternallyignorant pikachu pokémon ponified solo (and 1 more)

19:33 <Sour_Sweet> DerpyBot is really good with Unicode/UTF-8 6_9

19:43 <Surreal_Nightmares> Lol

19:50 <MisterRogers> I wonder if we will have internet history in the future.

19:50 <MisterRogers> And or meme class.

19:50 <MisterRogers> That'd be beyond stupid.

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19:51 <SunsetShimmer> " Write an essay on the contributions to society that the Doge, Grumpy cat and Bert & Ernie gave us! "

19:52 <ADragonHoarding> Rampant silliness, grumpy hilarity, and terrible, terrible people destroying beloved childhood experiences.

19:52 <SunsetShimmer> You pass!

19:54 <Thelema5> I'm sure that there will be some mention of the beginning of the worldwide digital social era and the culture it spawned.

19:55 <Thelema5> It will likely focus on more significant social and politican influences than Grumpy Cat

19:55 <MisterRogers> The future is ahead and it's really weird, but we'll accept it one way or the other I think.

19:56 <Thelema5> "In the early 21st century, the people of the world started to really talk with one another for the first time.  It became increasingly difficult for the states to demonize each other when the people could meet without borders"

19:57 <MisterRogers> Cause we developed this new way of interaction called language which fixes tons of issues...

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19:58 <MisterRogers>   Though there are still some bugs with certain languages which will get fixed in the next era.

19:58 <Thelema5> And then skynet became self aware, and the people of the world united world against a new foe: Giant mecha monsters with brains the size of a galaxy

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19:59 <MisterRogers> Mecha corporations ruling the galaxy.

19:59 <Thelema5> Planet Starbucks

20:00 <MisterRogers> FacePlanet

20:00 <MisterRogers> And then you have the google galaxy..

20:00 <SunsetShimmer> Youniverse

20:01 <SunsetShimmer> the next step up from youtube

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20:01 *** Equ is now known as Librarian

20:01 <Librarian> hoi

20:02 <Librarian> internets was bads, but it gots bettah

20:02 <MisterRogers> Hai Temmie?

20:02 <Librarian> im the librarian of temmies

20:02 <Surreal_Nightmares> Someone snuzzle me. I am sad. D:

20:02 * Librarian vibrates a lot

20:03 <MisterRogers> *Puts vibrating on Surreal_Nightmares*

20:03 * Surreal_Nightmares starts to vibrate

20:03 <MisterRogers> *Puts vibrating Librarian 0on Surreal_Nightmares***

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20:04 <MisterRogers> Sometimes my brain fragments things to work more quickly, but forgets to put everything correct together.

20:04 <Thelema5> Discovery family is going to be running a pony marathon leading up to the new episode, and is going to start an online poll for the three "fan favorite" episodes to run immediately before its premiere

20:05 <Thelema5> http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/article/Discovery-Family-to-Present-MY-LITTLE-PONY-FRIENDSHIP-IS-MAGIC-Marathon-723-20160713#

20:05 <Thelema5> Neat.

20:05 <MisterRogers> That's rad.

20:05 <MisterRogers> Surreal_Nightmares: Why so sad?

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20:06 <Thelema5> Ooo

20:06 <Thelema5> DOn't read that.

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20:06 * Electron brushes Surreal_Nightmares' mane gently

20:06 <Thelema5> Sorry, I didn't know it has a spoiler hidden in the text

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20:06 * Electron pouts at Thelema5

20:07 <Librarian> i multiplied there for a sec

20:07 <Electron> Damn spoilers.

20:07 <Librarian> im hungriess

20:07 <Librarian> feed mee

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20:08 <SunsetShimmer> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMbJ1Uf8lMI

20:08 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

20:08 * Thelema5 dumps a barrel full of tiny pickles over Librarian

20:08 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about This Instrument Makes Horror Movie Soundtracks

20:09 <SunsetShimmer> And now you know what makes that noise! :P

20:09 <Thelema5> XD

20:09 <Thelema5> How fun!

20:10 <MisterRogers> Just imagine scaring Pokemon go players with that thing.

20:10 <MisterRogers> In the middle of the night.

20:10 <SunsetShimmer> xD

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20:12 <MisterRogers> Studying is easy when you distribute the workload.

20:13 * Surreal_Nightmares snuzzles Electron

20:13 <MisterRogers> I knew this, yet I wasn't aware of it until now. I am almost 18.

20:13 <MisterRogers> How come.....

20:13 <MisterRogers> Guess I'm just growing up.

20:14 <MisterRogers> Into a bigger child that is.

20:14 <Librarian> i am 26 and i still dont know how to organize

20:14 <Librarian> owo

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20:14 <MisterRogers> When I grow up I want to beat skeletor and be a Wizard.

20:15 <MisterRogers> Dreams status: safe

20:15 <MisterRogers> What were your dreams that are now crushed by the weight of reallity?

20:17 * Electron yays to Surreal_Nightmares' face

20:17 * Thelema5 ponders the irony of a Librarian who can't organize

20:18 <Electron> Do you even, Librarian?

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20:22 <MisterRogers> BRB, putting a streetlight straight.

20:25 * Surreal_Nightmares snuzzles Thelema5

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20:27 * Thelema5 purrs

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20:30 <fyrepony> i think im gonna convert my pony oc to anthro pony too :O

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20:35 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Josh Haber and Mike Vogel Are Writers for Episode 13 [ http://tinyurl.com/guuoqxl ]

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21:02 * Surreal_Nightmares super snuzzles fyrepony and Gladiolus

21:02 * Gladiolus floofs at the snuzzles.

21:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by We Are Borg: Toy Review: Guardians of Chocolate Milk or Disappointment of a Demigod [ http://tinyurl.com/hk27h3h ]

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21:14 <Thelema5> !seen We_Are_Borg

21:14 <DerpyBot> Thelema5: Sorry, I haven't seen We_Are_Borg lately.

21:16 <Librarian> !seen straight

21:16 <DerpyBot> Librarian: The last time I saw....will you cut that out already?!

21:16 <Librarian> owo

21:16 <Librarian> never gets old

21:17 <Librarian> i has building problems

21:18 <Librarian> they are buidling a new apartmanet building right besides my house

21:18 <Librarian> they are kinda noisy, but today they used a really annoying machine

21:18 <Librarian> we asked them nicely and they did stop using it

21:18 * Gladiolus builds a pillow fort and pulls Librarian inside.

21:19 <Librarian> there are a lot of builingd under cosntruction around

21:19 <Librarian> its a pain on the proverbial plot

21:20 <Thelema5> People have to have a place to live, I guess.  I'm sure they'll be finished soon.

21:20 <Gladiolus> There's a catholic school going up across from us.

21:20 <Gladiolus> I swear it gets bigger every time I look out the window.

21:21 <MisterRogers> Librarian: It's so quiet in the neighborhood I live in, it's scary.

21:22 <Librarian> i prefer quiet

21:22 <Librarian> i can deal with must noise, but todays was increibly bad

21:22 <Thelema5> Gladiolus, I'd be surprised if it looked smaller

21:22 <MisterRogers> Also I've a streetlight which shines almost directly into my room. Creating a nice atmosphere, though can't see the stars from my window cause of it :C

21:23 <Thelema5> I don't even have a neighborhood :P

21:23 <Librarian> i can never see the stars, light and pollution

21:23 <Librarian> im not complaining, i have it nice here

21:23 <MisterRogers> Thelema5: Ya live in a barn?

21:23 <Librarian> he is a cow actually

21:23 <Librarian> dont tell the feds

21:24 <MisterRogers> Ah.

21:24 <Librarian> owo

21:24 <Thelema5> I live here: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8492959,-74.2336943,14956m/data=!3m1!1e3

21:24 <Thelema5> Nothing around but mountains, trees, apple orchards, and a few small farms

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21:25 <Thelema5> No problem seeing the stars, though.

21:25 <MisterRogers> The perfect place for a badass hideout for superheroes.

21:25 <Thelema5> :P

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21:28 * Gladiolus boops WuBzY repeatedly owo

21:29 <Gladiolus> everyone check out Surreal_Nightmares new vhost owo

21:30 <Thelema5> Can't I'm leaving work right now.  Bye!

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21:32 <MisterRogers> Darn it, was about to ask how late it was there.

21:32 <MisterRogers> It's almost 12 o' clock here.

21:32 <MisterRogers> Do all adults work that long >.>

21:32 <MisterRogers> ???

21:35 <Gladiolus> generally 8 hours

21:36 <MisterRogers> That's not more than I'm on school on average..

21:36 <MisterRogers> Guess they did that for a reason.

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21:39 <Librarian> i was having fun watching my house on google earth

21:39 <Librarian> you can watch up to 2008

21:39 <Surreal_Nightmares> Wat, Gladiolus

21:39 <Gladiolus> your hostmask o3o

21:39 <Gladiolus> i approved it and it's cute

21:39 <Surreal_Nightmares> Lol

21:39 <Librarian> owo

21:40 <Electron> http://i.imgur.com/hfQSgUQ.jpg

21:40 * Electron chuckles giggle-y

21:41 <Librarian> my litlle compress horse

21:41 <Librarian> friendhsip is squishy

21:45 <Surreal_Nightmares> XD

21:45 <Electron> Who is NOSSY by the way?

21:45 <Librarian> the nostalgia mare

21:46 <Surreal_Nightmares> ^

21:46 <fyrepony> http://akatsukikun.deviantart.com/art/MLP-GO-620451926

21:46 <Electron> Oh, okay.

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21:58 *** SunsetShimmer changes topic to 'Welcome to #EquestriaDaily! This channel is rated All Ages. | Guide and rules: http://derpy.me/EqDRules | The Horse Awakens July 30th, actually.'

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22:13 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

22:17 <MisterRogers> Hi there Thelema5!

22:18 <MisterRogers> Thelema5: You and I are six hours apart from each other.

22:19 <Thelema5> Or 18 hours.  Depends on which way you're facing.

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22:23 <Thelema5> Does anypony know if businesses can sponsor Pokemon Go to feature valuable items / pokemon in their location?

22:23 * Gladiolus nomfs on Thelema5

22:23 <Gladiolus> I don't think they can but Nintendo would be daft to turn them down.

22:23 <Thelema5> Seems like a no-brainer to generate more foot traffic.

22:23 <Gladiolus> That's an amazing money making plan.

22:24 <Gladiolus> Wanna get millenials into your store?

22:24 <Gladiolus> We've got you covered!

22:24 <Thelema5> Yep.

22:25 <Thelema5> It's to obvious for it to not already be planned for the games revenue model

22:25 <Thelema5> *too

22:25 <Gladiolus> Nintendo gonna end up with a market cap bigger than "All the oil put together"

22:25 <Thelema5> Ah, here we go: http://www.polygon.com/2016/7/13/12171920/pokemon-go-businesses-pokestops-sponsored

22:25 <Thelema5> It's in the works.

22:26 <Gladiolus> Of course we could end up with like, all the  businesses doing it.

22:26 <Gladiolus> But that's just great for Nintendo :p

22:26 <Thelema5> :P

22:28 <Librarian> its not yet out in mexico

22:28 <Librarian> i wanna try it

22:28 <Gladiolus> I used the fake-app store account work around to install it in Canada :p

22:28 <Gladiolus> I.E crate a one-time american app store account

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22:29 <MisterRogers> So far, I've heard only bad reviews about the game, though the idea is good, it only needs time and tons of work.

22:30 <MisterRogers> And not greedy people who would do anything to make a profit of the game.

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22:33 <Thelema5> It's the most successful mobile app launch in history, can't be that bad.

22:33 <Thelema5> I think it has more users now than twitter

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22:34 <Thelema5> Ah, yes.  It does https://techcrunch.com/2016/07/13/pokemon-go-tops-twitters-daily-users-sees-more-engagement-than-facebook/

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22:38 <MisterRogers> Ehhhh

22:38 <MisterRogers> waty

22:38 <MisterRogers> I mean wat

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22:38 <MisterRogers> invest in Nintendo stocks.

22:39 <Thelema5> I can't- it's time for me to do chores.

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22:39 <MisterRogers> It's time for napping time.

22:39 <MisterRogers> Naaaps

22:40 * Gladiolus tucks MisterRogers in :3

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22:40 <MisterRogers> Goodnight.

22:40 <Librarian> oyasumi

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22:45 * Electron yawns widely ¦( )

22:46 * Gladiolus tucks Electron in.

22:47 <Electron> Hey, wait! I'm cooking meat.

22:47 <Electron> I can't leave it at the stove.

22:47 <Electron> *on

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22:49 * Gladiolus takes care of Electron's cooking

22:49 <fyrepony> dear diary:   hiatus has gone too far, salvation is behind the corner for us all.....

22:49 <fyrepony> http://mushroom-cookie-bear.deviantart.com/art/WHAT-HAS-SCIENCE-DONE-476769557

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22:59 <Electron> But I'm hungry.

23:00 * Electron is looking at Gladiolus with his pleading eyes

23:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Hasbro Acquires Animation Studio Boulder Media [ Error ]

23:00 <roflin> it's 1 AM and I too, am hungry :(

23:00 * Gladiolus makes Electron dinner and serves.

23:01 <Electron> Midnight "dinner", yay!

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23:04 * Schism has a touch of leftover mac 'n' cheese.

23:04 <roflin> well i'll just make myself a sammich

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23:17 <Librarian> i tried pokemon go owo

23:18 <Librarian> its fun

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23:18 <Librarian> if i lived in a safer country it would be fun

23:18 <Librarian> but i cant go wandering around, ill get robbed

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23:20 <fyrepony> Librarian: where you live

23:20 <Librarian> mexico city

23:21 <fyrepony> ok then

23:21 <fyrepony> i think robbing is least of your conserns if you live there

23:21 <Surreal_Nightmares> Chicken.

23:21 <Sombra> Whew

23:21 <Sombra> Good luck kiddo

23:22 <fyrepony> hell even malta is more safe then that

23:22 <fyrepony> or going a hike to savanna

23:24 <Sombra> Might want to look into getting a visa.

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23:47 <Librarian> i rather play monster hunter form the comfort of my home

23:49 <Librarian> getting a visa is not that hard depending on looks and income

23:49 <Librarian> i have a visa since i was a baby

23:50 <Librarian> time to go

23:50 <Librarian> see ya

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23:56 <Schism> Heh.  I'd do this exact same thing.  http://www.tigerknight.com/ss/ss10-20.jpg

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