Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2016-08-23

00:01 * Sour_Sweet curls up on Surreal_Nightmares

00:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Design Philosophy / Intimate Strangers / Everfree 46 / Before the Fall 6 / Growing Pains 2 [ http://tinyurl.com/hsftp7z ]

00:01 * Surreal_Nightmares pats Sour_Sweet

00:01 <Unixkitty> Nooo my iPad's battery is dying

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00:02 <Surreal_Nightmares> Charge! Yaaaaaaaahhhhhh!

00:02 <Unixkitty> How am I going to continue wasting my time instead of sleeping

00:02 <Sour_Sweet> Sleeping is overrated :P

00:02 <Unixkitty> Stupid apple charger wires are way too short

00:02 <Surreal_Nightmares> True.

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00:03 <Unixkitty> Sleeping is among my most favorite things to be doing at any given moment

00:03 <Sour_Sweet> I'm currently suffering from symptoms of light sleep deprivation. Can't recommend it. Don't you have a power bank Unixkitty?

00:04 <Unixkitty> "Power bank"?

00:04 <Sour_Sweet> A portable battery with USB ports

00:05 <Unixkitty> I have a socket in a wall 78cm from me

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00:05 <Sour_Sweet> I have one as an emergency backup when I travel because last thing I want it my phone going dark in the middle of nowhere

00:06 <Sour_Sweet> I guess they became /trendy/ thanks to Pokémon Go, but yeah for smartphones they makes sense at least if you travel a lot

00:06 <Sour_Sweet> s/it/is/

00:06 <Unixkitty> Unfortunately I do not, so for me it would be a waste of money

00:06 <Verandure> They've been trendy for a bit.

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00:07 <Verandure> Small usb battery banks became fairly common about 2 years ago.

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00:07 <Unixkitty> If I had to buy one that is, but I believe I have one somewhere stored away

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00:08 <Sour_Sweet> The small ones are sometimes even given away as ad gifts here. Wouldn't trust them though

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00:08 <Sour_Sweet> Last thing you want is a lithium cell blowing up anywhere near you.

00:09 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Hi, Vulpor.

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00:45 <RazorSharpFang> Sour_Sweet: All lithium cells okayed by the FCC should have the necessary checks to prevent that from happening.

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00:46 <Sour_Sweet> FCC say what now? I'm not in the U.S. shady imports are a thing

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00:48 <Sour_Sweet> (They are of course also a thing in the U.S. I'm quite certain)

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01:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Plushie Compilation #227 [ http://tinyurl.com/z4nfo6h ]

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01:31 <Pony|91655> Did anyone notice that in rainbow rocks that twilight and sunset are pretty much sex messaging each other with books, when rainbow dash makes a comment about equestria having no cell phones?

01:32 <Pony|91655> I apologise for the typo, it's text messaging

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01:33 <SunsetShimmer> ...

01:33 * SunsetShimmer just blinks

01:34 <unicodingunicorn> good morning!

01:34 <StormDashNLR> !hug

01:34 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3

01:34 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around StormDashNLR in a tight embrace

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02:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #812 [ http://tinyurl.com/jjk96nb ]

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02:06 <Schism> LunaticHell, you may as well show yourself, I know you're watching.

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02:06 <Schism> Close, but no cigar.

02:06 * Cepheid can be seen being dragged along by an Ogretail, but he's fine. He's just attached to the Ogretail like a lamprey going "NOMNOMNOMNOMNOM~"

02:07 * Librarian gives cigar

02:07 <Librarian> better?

02:07 <Schism> So, Cepheid, what would /you/ call a whale with excellent dental hygiene?

02:08 <Librarian> colgate whale

02:08 <RazorSharpFang> I'd call it 'whale-kept'

02:08 <Schism> Painful, but you're not quite there.

02:09 <Librarian> im tired

02:09 <Librarian> hate being tired, so much to do

02:09 <Cepheid> .... White whale?

02:09 <Schism> Well, do you give up?

02:09 <Cepheid> Or white-toothed whale?

02:09 <Schism> An orcadontist.

02:10 <Cepheid> I hate you.

02:10 <Schism> Ah, that delicious hatred...~

02:10 <RazorSharpFang> I thought mine was a fair attempt

02:11 <Schism> I'm going to nap, but be sure to tell that one to Lunatic.

02:11 <Cepheid> Ye know, I thought of an interesting twist for Torchlight.

02:12 <Cepheid> Make a mod that limits the amount of potions that are for sale in town.  IE:  They restock every now and then, etc.

02:12 <Cepheid> Then play Torchlight on normal-high difficulty, with hardcore mode enabled.

02:13 <Librarian> imma tell you a story

02:13 <Librarian> there was once a bear called pritt, he fell down from a swing

02:13 <Librarian> and hit the ground

02:13 <Librarian> did you like the story?

02:14 <Dream_Chaser> I expected something more.

02:14 <Cepheid> What was the point of it?

02:14 <Librarian> i was expecting a no

02:14 <Librarian> its a joke

02:15 <Librarian> punchline being you say no and i say neither did the bear

02:15 <Librarian> its a bad one

02:16 <Librarian> got a better one, whats green and flies around?

02:16 <Cepheid> Boogers.

02:16 <Librarian> nuuuu

02:16 <Cepheid> XP

02:16 <Librarian> super letucce

02:17 <Cepheid> Mine's better. :P

02:17 <Librarian> mine is  sillier

02:17 <Librarian> here another one

02:17 <Cepheid> Also, it's interesting how God Eater handles it's damage system.  You can have the right element for an enemy, but still have attacks be utterly useless.

02:17 <Librarian> whats yellow, you press a button and it becomes red

02:17 <Cepheid> A yellow button that turns red.

02:18 <Librarian> nope

02:18 <Librarian> a small chick in a blender

02:18 <Librarian> OwO

02:18 <Cepheid> That one's a bit morbid.  I like it.

02:18 <RazorSharpFang> Quite dark

02:18 <Librarian> i heard it in a camp like 20 years ago

02:19 <Librarian> whats black and white and rolls?

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02:20 <Cepheid> As I was saying...  Damage in this game is split up into 3 physical types and 4 elemental types:  Slashing, Crushing, Piercing are the physical types, Blaze, Freeze, Spark and Divine are the elemental types.  Enemy could be weak to spark element, but only if it's combined with crushing or slashing damage, etc.

02:20 <Librarian> penguin falling down the stairs

02:21 <Librarian> i got a really dumb one

02:21 <Librarian> why did the chicken cross the road?

02:21 <Cepheid> What starts with the letter 'c' and ends in the letters 'at'?

02:22 <Librarian> cat

02:22 <Cepheid> Yeah, I guess that was kinda sad for me.

02:22 <Cepheid> Everyone knows I love 'dem kitties.

02:22 <RazorSharpFang> catarat

02:22 <RazorSharpFang> Oh wait, that's cataract

02:23 <Librarian> i know a lot of really bad puns. but they only work in spanish

02:23 <Cepheid> Dyaus Pita, I do not recall you doing that before.

02:23 * Cepheid watches the monster sproute bloodied wings.

02:23 <Librarian> like this one

02:23 <Librarian> there were two ballons in the desert

02:24 <Librarian> one says to the other, eatch out for the cactus!

02:24 <Librarian> watch out i mean

02:24 <Librarian> what cactussssssss

02:24 <Cepheid> Cute.  The wings are weak to divine, but strong against piercing.  I am only dealing 16 damage to them.

02:25 <Librarian> cepheid, schism, would you mind helping me in my project as a fpcus grpup of sorts?

02:25 <Librarian> i would like to know what you always wanted to see in a game

02:25 <Librarian> specifically in a rpg

02:26 <RazorSharpFang> fpcus grpup?

02:26 <Librarian> focus group XD

02:26 <RazorSharpFang> lulz

02:27 <RazorSharpFang> I love RPGs myself.

02:27 <Cepheid> I have way too many ideas I'd want to see in an RPG.  Narrowing them down is a bit much.

02:27 <Librarian> for that matter, anyone interested plz pitch in

02:27 <Librarian> gimme your favorites

02:27 <RazorSharpFang> For instance, I loved the Dark Souls series.

02:28 <Librarian> for the difficulty?

02:28 <RazorSharpFang> I loved the way you can customise your characters and build who you want, wearing what and doing what.

02:28 <Cepheid> Aye, it'd be interesting to see a turn/real-time based game using multiple characters that you can build that way.

02:28 <RazorSharpFang> As for the difficulty, I got through it (eventually)

02:28 <RazorSharpFang> But damn I was WAY overlevelled to what others were!

02:28 <Librarian> ummm

02:29 <RazorSharpFang> I did not get good. XD

02:30 <Librarian> i wonder if i could do that on rpg maker

02:30 <RazorSharpFang> I especially like how you have the ability to re-spec your character if you change your mind. That was really good.

02:30 <Cepheid> I actually had the startings of a roguelike that used a Dark Souls leveling system.

02:30 <Cepheid> I scrapped it 'cause it was written in Java. >.>

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02:31 <Cepheid> So, I'm rebuilding it in C++.

02:31 <Librarian> i have the story more or less set up

02:31 <Librarian> gameplay is harder to do

02:31 <RazorSharpFang> Librarian: Another thing I liked was the lack of rigid classes. You can totally have a do-anything character.

02:31 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid: Better not leak memory.

02:32 <Librarian> i could actually do that razor

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02:32 <Librarian> ifonly for the protagonist

02:33 <RazorSharpFang> You should also make weaponry functionally different. I really like that in Dark Souls. Every weapon class felt like it had its place and was unique.

02:33 <Librarian> i could very well do a system where you could change classes depending on the need

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02:34 <Librarian> i coul aslo offer some weapon names to backers in kickstarter

02:34 <Librarian> and a charcter on the game for the really genrous people

02:34 <RazorSharpFang> yay for kickstarter

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02:34 <Librarian> only way to do it right

02:34 <KooK> Hey baby

02:35 <RazorSharpFang> You should output a small demo to 'demo-strate' that you know what you're doing.

02:35 <Librarian> that could be done

02:35 <Librarian> something like a mini prequel

02:36 <Librarian> to demosntarte the basics

02:36 <Librarian> i have a lot of woork ahead of me

02:36 <Tirek> I am here now.

02:36 <Cepheid> Indeed.  Always helps to have something to show before you show it.

02:36 <Cepheid> Makes it more likely that people will support you.

02:36 <RazorSharpFang> One of the things I disliked about dark souls was the way it softcaps oddly. For instance, str(39->40) was a big jump in damage. str(40->41) was a tiny increase in damage.

02:36 <Tirek> You pinged me earlier librarian, did you want something?

02:36 <Librarian> yes

02:36 <Cepheid> Less a soft cap and more diminishing returns, RazorSharpFang.

02:37 <Cepheid> But yeah, they could have graded it a bit better.

02:37 <Tirek> You can't have my expensive gold plated NES Legend of Zelda cart.

02:37 <RazorSharpFang> I'm okay with diminishing returns, but damn there's a lot of dissonance there.

02:37 <Librarian> still up for making game music?

02:37 <Tirek> Kinda sorta.

02:37 <Librarian> i have a game on the works

02:37 <Tirek> I'm going to be away for up to 3 weeks soon. I'm moving in with my grandomother.

02:38 <Librarian> its going to be done in 3 years, lotsa time

02:38 <RazorSharpFang> Furthermore, I dislike how they tied physical defense to STR, DEX, VIT, and VGR. I'd prefer it to be not tied to the offensive stats.

02:38 <Tirek> Ah.

02:38 <Tirek> Didn't you tell me about this before?

02:38 <RazorSharpFang> If someone wants to build a defensive character, they'd get less defense than an offensive character. Because... reasons?

02:38 <Librarian> yes and no

02:38 <Tirek> Ah.

02:38 <Librarian> this one is more serious

02:39 <Librarian> its a full rpg

02:39 <Tirek> I'll reiterate what I said at the time. Once you have something that's playable, like a short demo of some kind, let me know.

02:39 <Librarian> im going to use kickstarter, i can pay you

02:39 <Librarian> probably

02:39 <Librarian> ok

02:39 <Tirek> Don't do kickstarter unless you have an actual demo.

02:39 <RazorSharpFang> Tirek: Do you do music?

02:39 <Librarian> i know

02:40 <Tirek> Like at the very least 30 minutes to an hour of gameplay.

02:40 <Tirek> And yes, I do do music.

02:40 <Librarian> ok, i can do that

02:40 <Tirek> Not so much recently, but maybe I can rekindle that hobby.

02:40 <RazorSharpFang> Do you have anything I could listen to? Out of curiosity.

02:40 <Librarian> by the way,  do you know a spriter/artist?

02:40 <Tirek> I am a spriter/artist.

02:40 <Tirek> http://tindeck.com/listen/stvv

02:40 <Tirek> This is something rpg-y.

02:41 <RazorSharpFang> wow my internet sucks

02:41 <RazorSharpFang> I mean, I knew that already, but...

02:42 <Tirek> Can't believe it's been 3 years since I wrote this.

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02:42 <Tirek> It's probably one of my best themes.

02:42 <RazorSharpFang> Time flies, huh?

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02:42 <Tirek> Yeah.

02:42 <Librarian> you are hired XD

02:42 <RazorSharpFang> 'castle' huh?

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02:42 <Tirek> I originally wanted to make a pony rpg.

02:43 <Tirek> This was written for said pony rpg.

02:43 <Tirek> It would have been the castle ruins in the everfree.

02:43 <Tirek> Now I don't care enough to go through with that, both in ponies and rpgs.

02:43 <Tirek> So it's a good thing that I had these disambiguous.

02:45 <RazorSharpFang> Dat 320kbps audio

02:46 <Tirek> Yeah, I dunno why I uploaded at 320 kbps.

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02:46 <Tirek> I usually only uploaded 128 kbps before.

02:46 <RazorSharpFang> Eh, there's no harm in giving out more bytes.

02:46 <RazorSharpFang> I don't suppose you have anything... spoopy?

02:47 <Tirek> Spoopy?

02:47 <Tirek> I have the opposite of spoopy right here first

02:47 <Tirek> http://tindeck.com/listen/ahzz

02:47 <Tirek> Let me see if I can find something spoopy.

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02:47 <RazorSharpFang> Something to make your skin crawl. Something to heighten your senses.

02:48 <Tirek> I don't have anything that spooky.

02:48 <Tirek> I have eerie.

02:48 <Tirek> http://tindeck.com/listen/ddok

02:48 <Tirek> This was a proposition song for a Legend of Zelda fangame called Mirror of the Moon.

02:48 <Tirek> It never got off the ground.

02:48 <RazorSharpFang> So many things never seem to get off the ground.

02:49 <Tirek> The lead programmer vanished, leaving his very complicated legacy behind for nonprogrammers to try and make sense out of.

02:49 <RazorSharpFang> And by spoopy, I meant something like this.

02:49 <RazorSharpFang> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or1yVwOf6EY

02:49 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

02:49 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about OFF OST: Not Safe (Extended)

02:49 <Librarian> im going to make mine fueled just by will and soda

02:49 <Librarian> mostly soda

02:49 <RazorSharpFang> Soda is expensive. Water for me.

02:50 <Tirek> I've never done anything like that.

02:50 <RazorSharpFang> It's quite a unique track

02:50 <RazorSharpFang> I absolutely loved OFF to bits. Great game, imo.

02:50 <RazorSharpFang> I suppose I just have a thing for surrealist horror.

02:51 <Tirek> http://tindeck.com/listen/jprn

02:51 <Tirek> I tried once.

02:51 <Tirek> This was during my early experimental phase.

02:51 <Tirek> And the vast majority of "music" that came from that stage is awful.

02:52 <RazorSharpFang> Experimenting is how you find out what works and what doesn't.

02:53 <Tirek> Right, and I kind of figured out what works for me.

02:53 <Tirek> Though I do try to branch out still.

02:53 <RazorSharpFang> What do you use to produce your music?

02:53 <Librarian> it took me 20 years to figure my best idea

02:53 <Tirek> FL Studio.

02:54 <Tirek> There are many better programs I'm told, but I like what I use and don't really see myself changing that any time soon.

02:54 <Tirek> And furthermore I am not a great or even good musician by any stretch of the imagination.

02:55 <RazorSharpFang> I'd like to compose myself, but I have trouble just generating short tunes. I tend to dislike what I create, or it tends to be overly simple. (C A F G)

02:55 <Librarian> i find you to be a great one

02:56 <Librarian> i think im a great writer or at least world maker

02:56 <Tirek> Research is key.

02:56 <RazorSharpFang> What, listen to other music for inspiration?

02:56 <Tirek> Learn some theory.

02:56 <Librarian> yeah that helps

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02:57 <RazorSharpFang> I know enough theory to play piano.

02:57 <Librarian> i read losta writing theory in my case

02:57 <Tirek> It's very important to know the rules and psychology behind what human beings find melodically pleasing.

02:57 <RazorSharpFang> But you probably mean compositor theory, not playing theory

02:57 <Tirek> Yep.

02:57 <Tirek> You could find resources online, and learn it for free.

02:57 <RazorSharpFang> But a spooky tune should sound NOT nice, surly.

02:57 <RazorSharpFang> C F#

02:58 <Tirek> Well knowing what sounds nice tells you what doesn't.

02:58 <Tirek> Ah, here's my most recent piece.

02:58 <Tirek> http://picosong.com/2y9s/

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02:58 <Tirek> and here's something for you, fang

02:59 <Tirek> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9911045/Music%20Writing%20PDFs.zip

02:59 <RazorSharpFang> What lead instrument is that? Sounds like a weird synth

02:59 <Tirek> It's an emulation of the ym2612.

02:59 <RazorSharpFang> Is that a sine synth derivative?

03:00 <Tirek> A pretty prolific fm synth chip used in many arcade cabinets and even home video game consoles.

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03:00 * Cepheid gets back to coding.

03:00 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm.

03:00 <RazorSharpFang> Quite possibly then

03:00 <Tirek> All of the instruments are presets that were from Castlevania: Bloodlines.

03:00 <RazorSharpFang> It might even be a square synth then

03:01 <Tirek> That's the PSG, that's square.

03:01 <RazorSharpFang> I shall place these PDFs in my book archive.

03:01 <Tirek> FM is sine, though.

03:01 <SunsetShimmer> A sine of the tiimes, that

03:01 <Tirek> Each instrument is a combination of up to 4 sine waves modulating each other.

03:01 <RazorSharpFang> Ah, that's why i was unsure.

03:02 <Tirek> Aside from the PSG square.

03:02 <RazorSharpFang> Which book would you recommend to start with?

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03:04 <Tirek> No clue. I got them for myself but my attention span is so abysmally small I couldn't get through a single one.

03:04 <Tirek> They might be duds.

03:05 <RazorSharpFang> Here's another one I like the sound of. Totally spoopy.

03:05 <RazorSharpFang> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EepNi6ceUBs

03:05 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

03:05 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about OFF - Tender Sugar [Extended]

03:06 <Tirek> I'm not a fan of this kind of music.

03:06 <Tirek> I like very prominent themes and motifs.

03:06 <RazorSharpFang> To each their own I suppose.

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03:06 <Tirek> This is likely a product of the fact that I was raised mostly on 80s rock and roll and 80s and 90s video game music.

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03:07 <RazorSharpFang> Me, I have an appreciation for all musical genres to some degree. I've found that what I like/dislike varies with my mood and feelings.

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03:08 <Tirek> http://picosong.com/2KVM/

03:08 <Tirek> Every time I try to write more atmospheric pieces, you can hear what I mean.

03:09 <Cepheid> o/~ I'm okay, I'm alright, I'll find my way again as I fall~ o/~

03:10 <Tirek> This was a revisit of one of my earliest songs, and I really like how this one came out second time around.

03:10 <Tirek> But it doesn't sound like a Zelda theme at all.

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03:10 <Tirek> Aside from the fact that I have rips of the sound bank from OoT.

03:10 <RazorSharpFang> It does feel different.

03:11 <Tirek> Dungeon themes in that game are rarely melodical.

03:11 <RazorSharpFang> It might be due to the way you're changing tempo.

03:11 <Tirek> The tempo doesn't change, just the beat becomes more prominent and there's more going on.

03:11 <Tirek> I think.

03:11 <Tirek> I lost this project file a while ago.

03:12 <RazorSharpFang> If the beat's becoming more prominent in such a way, it feels like a change in tempo anyway

03:12 <Tirek> Fair enough.

03:14 <RazorSharpFang> Speaking of music, what's your favorite instrument, Tirek ?

03:14 <Tirek> I started this song in February 2015

03:14 <Tirek> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9911045/fafnir%20mountains%20wip.mp3

03:14 <Tirek> Also I dunno. I tend to use a lot of synths in my work.

03:14 <Tirek> I never could finish this damned thing.

03:14 <RazorSharpFang> Synths are still instruments, but you should probs specify a bit.

03:14 <RazorSharpFang> For me, my favorite instrument is the Xenon pad.

03:15 <Tirek> Oh, you mean physical instrument.

03:15 <Tirek> I actually don't use one.

03:15 <Tirek> I pencil in the notes.

03:15 <RazorSharpFang> Not necessarily physical instruments.

03:15 <Tirek> Well then the VOPM.

03:15 <RazorSharpFang> The xenon pad is a synth for instance

03:16 <Tirek> Ah.

03:18 <Tirek> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9911045/fafnir%20mountains%20wip%202.mp3

03:18 <Tirek> Ended up having to rewrite that piece later because I lost the project and I really want to finish this song one day.

03:19 <RazorSharpFang> I'll see if I can record a xenon pad on a short piece so you can hear.

03:19 <Tirek> That'd be interesting.

03:20 <Tirek> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9911045/fafnir%20mountains%20a2%20wip%202.mp3

03:22 <Tirek> As for examples of my favorite instrument, you really just gotta play any SEGA Genesis game and you got a good example.

03:22 <Tirek> Unless they're bad at using it which they most certainly are.

03:23 <Tirek> I did one mashup as a joke once.

03:23 <Tirek> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9911045/fafnir%20mountains%20a2%20wip%202.mp3

03:23 <Tirek> Er wait.

03:23 <Tirek> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9911045/Temple%20of%20Stone%20Droplets.mid

03:23 <Tirek> That.

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03:24 <Tirek> I'm part of a zelda fan game community, and both Stone Tower and Temple of Dropplets are used in every project.

03:24 <Tirek> So I mixed them into one song for people to laugh at/use ironically/use unironically

03:25 <Tirek> And people still use MIDIs.

03:26 <RazorSharpFang> lulz midis

03:26 <Tirek> Another joke

03:26 <Tirek> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9911045/kkbouncer.mp3

03:27 <RazorSharpFang> That one does sound quite funny

03:27 <Tirek> The K.K. Slider soundfont might be my second favorite instrument.

03:28 <Tirek> At at least one other person agrees: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9911045/Allstar.mp3

03:29 <Librarian> time to sleep

03:29 <Librarian> see ya tommorow

03:30 <Librarian> !moon

03:30 <DerpyBot> Grab my tail, Librarian!

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03:31 <Tirek> Although whoever did that mix screwed up the one last verse before the ending chorus.

03:31 <Tirek> http://tindeck.com/listen/wsae

03:31 <Tirek> I tried my hand at sanic music before.

03:33 <Tirek> And back to the rpg I mentioned much earlier.

03:33 <Tirek> http://tindeck.com/listen/slps

03:33 <Tirek> And last one.

03:34 <Tirek> And after much thought I think my favorite physical instrument would have to be the saxophone.

03:35 <Tirek> If you're feeling brave, I have nearly 200 songs in my tindeck library.

03:35 <Tirek> Weeks of music, and 90% of it is trash.

03:36 <RazorSharpFang> I'm gonna use my laptop to record the music, but that'll involve killing my internet, be back in a bit.

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03:38 <Tirek> Ah, I'm going to sleep now.

03:38 <Tirek> Sorry for the crap music spam.

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03:41 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

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03:42 <KooK> Hey baby

03:42 <Cepheid> Hullo.

03:42 <KooK> Let me drive my van into your heart

03:43 <Cepheid> Please don't.

03:43 <Changeling_Nightmares> Ded.

03:44 <KooK> Let me drive my dog into your heart?

03:44 <Sombra> I love dogs

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03:45 <KooK> *Vroom and woof*

03:46 <Cepheid> getUser("KooK")->explode()

03:46 <KooK> *poof*

03:47 <KooK> getUser("KooK")->cookies()

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03:47 <KooK> You mean MissPommel...

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03:48 <SunsetShimmer> She's still coco to those who know her as such! :P

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03:49 <Scootaloo> A great coco and thorax comic is out

03:50 <Scootaloo> Lemme switch

03:50 <Thelema5> Eww

03:50 <Thelema5> Worst ship ever

03:50 <SunsetShimmer> is nooottt

03:50 <KooK> Thelema5: I'm 4 episodes away from being caught up, but I don't feel like buying them atm

03:50 <KooK> Next week I will

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03:50 <KooK> I got caught up on SU in 3 days :P

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03:51 <Scootaloo> http://foudubulbe.tumblr.com/post/149327417669 Here it is, it's not even a ship

03:51 <Scootaloo> You know I'm not the shipper in here Thelema5

03:51 <RazorSharpFang> Tirek: here's my best attempt.

03:51 * Scootaloo glares at SunsetShimmer menacingly

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03:51 <RazorSharpFang> Tirek: http://razorsharpfang.com/DefinitelyNotASong.mp3

03:51 <Thelema5> KooK, that's quite a binge!

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03:54 * Cepheid hisses at everything.

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03:58 <Scootaloo> It's okay you two, there's plenty more shipping you can do elsewhere

03:59 <KooK> Butts

04:01 <Thelema5> Butts for everypony!

04:01 <Thelema5> (How else would they sit?)

04:01 <SunsetShimmer> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqgPRJMWEAAZOaY.jpg - like this, for example

04:02 <Thelema5> XD

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04:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Newbie Artist Training Grounds VI: Day 9 [ http://tinyurl.com/j87t9gj ]

04:03 * Cepheid is just hissing for the sake of hissing.

04:03 <Sombra> unacceptable

04:03 * Cepheid also rave-dances to Beat of the Rising Sun.

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04:05 <Scootaloo> Go to bed all of you

04:05 <Scootaloo> Especially you shippers

04:06 <RazorSharpFang> Scootaloo: Go to bed? It's noon!

04:06 <Sombra> Snipers/

04:06 <Thelema5> Bed?  It's only midnight.

04:06 <Cepheid> Huh?  What time is it?  *Checks clock* ... 12:09.

04:06 <Cepheid> Eh.

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04:10 <Cepheid> You know, I just realized something.

04:10 <Cepheid> FPS games and such that attempt to replicate the visual effect of being drunk..

04:10 <Cepheid> AKA:  Excessive blurring and such.

04:10 * Changeling_Nightmares sits on Cepheid.

04:10 <Cepheid> That's how my vision is without glasses.

04:10 <Changeling_Nightmares> If you have motion blur, it's worse.

04:11 <Cepheid> There's no motion blur.

04:11 <Cepheid> It's just excessive blurring of my vision.  I look at something at a distance, and it blurs up considerably to the point that I can't make out simple shapes.

04:12 <Cepheid> I should make a simulator game that involves near-sighted and far-sightedness, which asks the player to do something which requires good vision.

04:12 <Cepheid> The effect would be easy to implement.  It'd just use the depth buffer to determine how far something is, and then blur it accordingly.

04:12 <Scootaloo> When first playing FPS games in general there's an adjustment period

04:13 <Scootaloo> Because of how motion works in it your eyes have to adjust

04:13 <Scootaloo> It'll become normal after a little while

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04:13 <Schism> Sigh.  Waking up - at midnight - with a blood sugar of ONE POINT THREE and my brother has tossed a freaking post-it note on my desk telling me to wake him up.  Yeah.  Ya-huh.  Sure.

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04:13 <Scootaloo> Increase the sugars!

04:14 <Cepheid> Motion blur actually bothers me in games.  It's done in an unusual manner which is inconsistent with what one sees in real life.

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04:14 <Cepheid> Plus how accurate it is, is entirely dependent on the framerate.

04:15 <Cepheid> Schism:  What the hell man?

04:15 <Cepheid> 1.3 is getting close to "I'm about to be unconscious."

04:15 <Schism> 1.3 is close to "I'm about to die."  I subsequently drank around 60g of sugar.

04:16 <RazorSharpFang> I didn't realize liquid sugar existed.

04:16 <Schism> It's called fruit juice.

04:16 <RazorSharpFang> Oh

04:16 <Schism> And by 60g, I mean two cups of 30g/250oz.

04:16 <RazorSharpFang> I thought you were gonna say cordial or something.

04:17 <RazorSharpFang> How does your blood sugar get that low?

04:17 <Schism> Overshooting during dinner.

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04:17 <Cepheid> In other news, I am now at a risk of developing diabetes.  I have to manage my diet and exercise.

04:17 <Cepheid> Granted, I was at an increased risk regardless because both of my parents have diabetes, but yeah.

04:18 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: I don't understand what you mean.

04:18 <Cepheid> He takes insulin.

04:18 <Cepheid> He used too much.

04:19 <RazorSharpFang> I don't remember what insulin does.

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04:20 <Cepheid> Breaks down sugars.  It's what our bodies produce to do that.

04:20 <Schism> When you eat food, you have carbohydrates, yesno?

04:20 <Schism> There are sugars, complex carbs, fibers, and the like.

04:20 <Cepheid> Diabetes is basically a case where our body cannot produce insulin for whatever reason.

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04:20 <Schism> Yea.

04:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o VinylScratch

04:21 <Schism> And I wound up taking a bit too much, and crashing, as they say.

04:21 <Cepheid> So to account for that, a synthetic variety of insulin is produced and injected at various doses.

04:21 <Schism> Crash, bang, boom, at that level I'm lucky I wasn't hospitalized.

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04:21 <RazorSharpFang> Managing that manually sounds problematic.

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04:22 <Schism> There are devices and mechanisms by which to simplify management, as well as a number of synthetic insulin types which take effect throughout the day.

04:22 <Schism> Speaking of which, pardon me, Cepheid, my ketchup just beeped, need to throw it on my cheese and mac.

04:23 <Thelema5> Schism, I'm glad you didn't die o.o

04:23 * Cepheid injects a ton of insulin into Schism.

04:23 * Cepheid trots off to check blood-sugar.

04:23 * Schism grumps, and isn't eating KD. Just a sidekick thingy.

04:23 <RazorSharpFang> Hang on, what happens when you don't take insulin?

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04:24 <VinylScratch> They die

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04:24 <SunsetShimmer> dammit trillian, lol

04:24 <Thelema5> Schism, as much as I enjoy our friendship Schism- this ketchup-on-mac-and-cheese routine hs to stop ( ._.)

04:24 <Thelema5> It is madness.

04:25 <SunsetShimmer> I encourage this habit

04:25 <SunsetShimmer> stop cramping his stttyyylee

04:25 <Thelema5> nuuuuu

04:25 <Schism> <.< >.>

04:25 <RazorSharpFang> SunsetShimmer: That sounds bad

04:25 <Schism> RSF: If I don't take insulin, then my blood sugar goes up enormously.  After a time, I go into what's called 'diabetic ketoacidosis', where I am unable to digest food, or any liquids whatsoever.  I vomit, I become dehydrated, and after a time, I perish.

04:25 <SunsetShimmer> Them dying?

04:25 <SunsetShimmer> it's basically a really, really unpleasant endgame scenario

04:25 <RazorSharpFang> That sounds very bad.

04:25 <SunsetShimmer> it is

04:26 <Schism> Yup.

04:26 <SunsetShimmer> because death and sickness.

04:26 * Thelema5 cans Schism to make him non-perishable

04:26 <Schism> The sickness part isn't very enjoyable.

04:26 <Schism> Anyway, Thelema5, I refuse.  I will eat ketchup on my macaroni and cheese for as long as I'm around.  Bwahaha.

04:26 * Thelema5 flailyhooves

04:26 <Thelema5> As you wish

04:27 * SunsetShimmer will also do this...with either ketchup or hot sauces!

04:27 <Thelema5> Hot sauce, yeah.  100%

04:27 <Thelema5> I can support this

04:27 <StormDashNLR> hot sauce sounds better than ketchup

04:28 <Schism> What about ketchup... /with/ hot sauce?

04:28 <StormDashNLR> no

04:29 * Cepheid returns.

04:29 <Cepheid> Blood-sugar is 10.9.  Bleh.

04:29 <Schism> Better than 1.3.  *gluh*  So see!  See!  I have a reason to be having ketchup!  Low BG, that's enough.

04:29 <RazorSharpFang> How do you check your blood sugar levels?

04:30 <Cepheid> Small meters.

04:30 <Schism> RSF: In most places, you can actually get a free blood sugar monitor, at least in Canada.  The strips are a bit pricy, but not too much...

04:30 <Cepheid> You prick yourself with a needle, bleed a bit, and apply it to a test strip attached to a meter.

04:30 <Thelema5> Yeah

04:30 <Cepheid> The meter measures your blood-glucose levels.  10 is on the high side, but not quite diabetic side.

04:30 <RazorSharpFang> Hang on, if you have low blood sugar, wouldn't bleeding make it slightly worse?

04:30 <Cepheid> It's not that much bleeding.

04:30 * Schism levels his eyes at RSF.

04:30 <Cepheid> You're talking maybe a teardrop worth maximum.

04:31 <Schism> Get the heck outta here, ya darn Aussie, until you vote someone different into office.

04:31 <Cepheid> And that's in extreme cases.  Like "The first few times didn't draw enough blood."

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04:31 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: to be fair, I failed biology.

04:31 <Cepheid> But yeah, Schism.  A1C and Blood-Glucose are a bit high, alas.

04:32 <Schism> Well, A1C is more of an over-time thing.  BG, though, hmm.  Eat a salad.

04:32 <Cepheid> While I am not diabetic, my blood sugar is going up and down, I am borderline.  If I don't cut the sweets or start exercising.

04:32 <Cepheid> Schism:  This was after a 13-hour fast.

04:33 <Schism> Hmm.  I still iterate that a salad will help.  :S

04:34 <Cepheid> Aye.  Eating healthier would be a good start. :P

04:34 <Cepheid> Should learn to cook some foods other than pasta.

04:34 <Schism> This isn't just a joke, either.  A salad will help clear up those food cravings while also causing your body to produce more insulin, especially with sweet salad dressings like a Russian.

04:34 <Thelema5> I've been trying to eat healthier lately but it's haaaard

04:34 <Cepheid> Ah.

04:34 * Cepheid goes to eat a salad then? >.>;

04:35 <Schism> Make sure you add tomatoes and broccoli!

04:35 <Cepheid> Simple salad.  Lettuce, salad dressing.

04:35 <Schism> Cheese is good.

04:35 <Schism> If you can get it.

04:35 <Schism> Harder cheeses have next to no lactose.

04:37 <Thelema5> I had a salad for dinner tonight, with homegrown lettuce and tomatoes.  Perhaps this is a healthy choice?  It was topped with a grilled chicken breast and some Blu Cheese Dressing

04:38 <Cepheid> This salad dressing is terrible.  *Noms anyways.  Lettuce, at least, is good for me.  And I don't want to waste it.*

04:39 <Thelema5> What sort of salad dressing?

04:39 <Cepheid> I forget, it's a custom mix from a local produce store.

04:39 <Cepheid> It's got too much of that natural sweetness though, the same kind that turns me off watermelon and melon in general.

04:40 <Thelema5> Fructose, perhaps

04:41 <Cepheid> Seriously though, I should learn to cook more foods.  Especially ones with tofu.

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04:42 <Cepheid> Right, 'nuf coding for now.

04:43 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT0WpdrCJYE I dunno... for a state of being called "Blood Rage", this song doesn't feel too appropriate.

04:43 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

04:43 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about God Eater 2 Rage Burst OST - Blood Rage

04:44 <Thelema5> Cepheid,my partner cooks tofu like... every day.  I've probably seen a hundred different preparations.

04:44 <Cepheid> Heh.

04:44 <Thelema5> I'd be happy to share experiences

04:44 <Cepheid> Yeah, I like tofu, to a degree.  No fruit-flavoured tofu.

04:44 <Cepheid> I tried that once, I promptly ran to the nearest bathroom and vomited.  Only thing to ever cause that.

04:44 <Thelema5> Sounds gross

04:45 <Cepheid> Like chewing into an extremely squishy block of sugar.

04:45 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACSTZDCmgmU

04:45 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

04:45 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Patapon OST (Full) - Complete Soundtrack

04:45 <Cepheid> Pata Pata Pata Pon~

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04:46 <Thelema5> The best tofu recipe I've tried was a sesame coated fried tofu strip.  Really good.

04:46 <Thelema5> Also very unhealthy

04:46 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

04:46 <Thelema5> Heya, ConfusionRift

04:47 * ConfusionRift waves.

04:47 <Cepheid> Thelema5:  All I've tried in regards to fried tofu was just... plain fried tofu.

04:47 * Cepheid plays some drums near ConfusionRift. Pata Pata Pata Pon~!

04:48 <Thelema5> This was extra firm tofu coated in egg, and then rolled in sesame seeds and fried in oil

04:48 <Thelema5> yum!

04:48 <ConfusionRift> Thank you for reviving an old torment. :P

04:48 <Cepheid> XD

04:48 <Cepheid> Thelema5:  Yeah, that sounds good and unhealthy.

04:49 <Thelema5> Quites

04:49 <Cepheid> Mine was just firm tofu fried on a frying pan.  Had the texture of chicken.

04:49 <Cepheid> FLavour, not so much.  But I like the flavour of plain tofu.

04:49 <Thelema5> It's not bad

04:49 <Thelema5> It's fine on it's own

04:49 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift:  I've been playing the series again as of late.  Ever since I found out the entire series is available for $5.99 CAD each on the PSN store.

04:50 <Cepheid> My first introduction to tofu was actually a thai curry that had tofu in it.

04:50 <Cepheid> After that, my next experience with it was in the miso soup I made.

04:50 <Thelema5> Miso soup is a lovely thing

04:51 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: My cousin used to play it non-stop. So... yeah... it got a bit stuck.

04:51 <Cepheid> Heh.

04:51 <Cepheid> It's strangely... intoxicating.

04:54 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePk0DxzPGI Patapon, for reference.  Well, Patapon 2, but the mechanics are the same.

04:54 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

04:54 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Patapon 2 - Ice Dodonga Battle

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04:59 <ConfusionRift> The only thing that I liked is when the game gets very tribal and hectic when it gets most frantic.

05:00 <Vulpor> Hey everyone

05:00 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.

05:01 * Cepheid finds it enjoyable due to music and WALKING EYEBALLS MAN!

05:06 <Vulpor> Everyone I do not know if I mentioned here but my mother has passed as of the 16th of August she fought hard against various problems in her body. My mother was the one who tought me of magic and to believe in things that to this day make me who I am

05:07 <Vulpor> If you ever look up in the sky during the evening and see pink or purple with a orange or yellow inside my mother called those plumb skies

05:08 <Vulpor> She loved life and her family and will never be forgotten

05:09 <Vulpor> and that's about it

05:10 <Vulpor> you all are great people and I love you all

05:13 <Vulpor> hugs everypony

05:14 * Cepheid puts on some Persona 3 music.

05:15 * ConfusionRift hugs Vulpor.

05:15 <Vulpor> Cepheid Poem of all our worlds?

05:15 <Vulpor> souls I mean

05:15 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, got one song stuck in my head. Ain't going away. :P

05:15 <Vulpor> its a good song

05:16 <Cepheid> Going back and forth between Burn My Dread and Battle for Everyone's Souls.

05:16 <Vulpor> and thank you ConfusionRift

05:16 <Vulpor> god I remember that intro so well

05:16 <Cepheid> "The Arcana is the means by which all is revealed..."

05:17 <Vulpor> it was like a friend from highschool stopped by

05:17 * Vulpor was a bit of a otaku in highschool

05:17 <Cepheid> Really should play Persona 3 again.

05:18 <Vulpor> they need to add it to ps2 to ps4

05:19 <Vulpor> i would buy it for 20 bucks

05:19 <Cepheid> Emulation is pretty viable at this point.

05:20 <Vulpor> yeah but I prefer to buy games

05:21 <Cepheid> Fair enough.

05:21 <Vulpor> ill emulate things I cant get legit like stuff from japan or dead consoles

05:22 <Vulpor> i.e. Wind Jammers

05:22 <ConfusionRift> I would emulate, if the system was capable of withstanding it.

05:22 <Cepheid> As it is, I'll only emulate stuff I own.

05:23 <ConfusionRift> Somepony is playing it safe. :P Just kidding.

05:23 * Cepheid shrugs.

05:24 <Vulpor> i just bought deus ex mankind divided

05:24 <ConfusionRift> Some games no longer exist and aren't on virtual console/PSN/XBox Arcade, so pfffftttt.

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05:24 <Cepheid> In those cases, I consider the games to "no longer be maintained" and under the label of "fair game."

05:24 <Vulpor> very few modern games do I feel like going back to though

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05:25 <ConfusionRift> Yeah. I gotcha there. I can go back easy on older games. New games... meeeeeh.

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05:25 <Vulpor> I keep looking at skyrim for ps4 and think "I already did everything in that thing"

05:26 <Vulpor> I loved my time with skyrim but its not worth restarting

05:26 <Cepheid> Feel sorta the same way about God Eater Resurrection.  Yet here I am, in Rank 6 and getting my butt kicked nine ways to Saturday.

05:27 <ConfusionRift> Kirby Super Star. I think it's my most beaten game.

05:27 <Vulpor> never played any god eater

05:27 <Vulpor> is it a RPG?

05:27 <Cepheid> Sort-of-a-clone of Monster Hunter.

05:29 <Vulpor> do I have to have played the other games to get the one on PS4

05:29 <Vulpor> not the new one the older one

05:29 <Cepheid> Nah.

05:29 <Cepheid> God Eater Resurrection is an upgraded version of God Eater and God Eater Burst.

05:30 <Cepheid> It takes the additions made to the series in God Eater 2 Rage Burst and adds them to the first God Eater game.

05:31 <Cepheid> So the new weapons, which are hammers, spears and scythes.  Otherwise, it retains all of the base content, has all the DLC from the previous games as far as I can tell, and also has a mode that replicates the anime storyline.

05:32 <Vulpor> cool

05:32 <Vulpor> watching a review

05:32 <Vulpor> this is for burst\

05:32 <Vulpor> but its a cool idea

05:32 <Cepheid> It's basically a much faster-paced Monster Hunter, set about 40 years in the future, and with different weapon mechanics.

05:33 <Vulpor> japan has cool ideas lol

05:33 <Cepheid> If anything, I'd argue that Monster Hunter Generations actually took a few ideas from God Eater.

05:33 <Vulpor> my next biggie is final fantasy 15

05:33 <Cepheid> It's crazy-freaking hard later on in the game, too.

05:34 <Cepheid> The difficulty starts off a little on the easy side.  But by around rank six, it just suddenly jumps.

05:34 <Cepheid> Rank 10 and beyond are absolutely insane.

05:34 <Vulpor> so was persona 3

05:34 <Vulpor> screw that fortune wheel boss

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05:37 <Cepheid> Heh.

05:41 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TvPzpLke3Q

05:41 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

05:41 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about God eater blitz Hannibal is fun

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05:48 <Cepheid> Essentially, any variant of the Hannibal is the God Eater equivalent to ConfusionRift's favourite Monster Hunter monster.

05:48 <Cepheid> AKA:  The Akantor.

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05:55 <ConfusionRift> Araaagaaaahpffffffffffttth!

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06:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1359 [ http://tinyurl.com/jhwu29u ]

06:03 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!

06:03 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

06:03 <Finwe> Lt Cdr AraaagaaaahpfffffffffthRift.

06:03 <Finwe> _o7

06:03 <Cepheid> o/~ Oooh I've got a girl named Rama Lama Lama Ding Dong~ o/~

06:06 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah!

06:07 <Finwe> o3o!

06:07 <Cepheid> I cannot code anymore for this day.  I am too exhausted to think and type.

06:08 <Finwe> Time for a nap, or even a good night's sleep?

06:08 <ConfusionRift> Same here. Been tired for the longest time.

06:10 <Cepheid> When I am exhausted, I feel like pressure is being applied to every part of my body.  As if the air pressure around me has increased a bit.

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06:17 <RazorSharpFang> What is "Information Technology" ?

06:17 <Cepheid> I honestly don't know at this point.

06:17 <Cepheid> It's a catch-all phrase for a lot of things.

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06:18 <RazorSharpFang> I just realised I don't have a formal definition for that term

06:18 <ConfusionRift> It's still anything system related.

06:18 <Cepheid> Define a system.

06:19 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid: A set of inter-related objects interacting together with an outer limit defining the system.

06:19 <ConfusionRift> Well, it used to be about computers and anything held in. But nowadays, anything can be a system.

06:20 <RazorSharpFang> I'd argue that not everything IS a system, but that systems encapsulate everything.

06:20 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: ... Good definition, but you know what that covers? :P

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06:23 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid: All composite entities I guess?

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06:23 <Cepheid> It covers a whole lotta everything, yes.

06:24 <RazorSharpFang> Some sources say that IT: "The set of tools and practices used for storing retrieving or sending information"

06:24 <ConfusionRift> Sounds about right.

06:24 <Cepheid> And others say that "IT" is a type of department that handles technical problems.

06:25 <RazorSharpFang> IT department would be an IS specific problem solver.

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06:25 <Cepheid> We know that, but the rest of the world doesn't.

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06:26 <Cepheid> Yeesss!  I finally got a picture of Spitfire curled up and asleep!

06:27 <ConfusionRift> By "handling technical problems", it can be vague. But most tend to associate technical problems with IT, despite it not being true all the time.

06:27 <RazorSharpFang> There's a problem with the mains power, you can fix it right? "I'm a computer scientist"

06:27 <Cepheid> Heh.

06:27 <ConfusionRift> "So, that means yes?"

06:28 <Cepheid> In any case, I'm gonna run off and get some of that thing we call "sleep"

06:29 <Cepheid> So see you at some arbitrary point in time tomorrow.

06:29 <ConfusionRift> See ya laters.

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06:30 <PinkieShy> Do any of you use any TracFone based service like simple mobile, net10, page plus, etc?

06:32 <RazorSharpFang> I've never heard of any of those

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06:37 <DashedRainbows> Good night pony folk

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07:30 <RazorSharpFang> It's quiet in here

07:31 <ConfusionRift> Well, I'm kinda playing a game. :P

07:33 <Gladiolus> Baldurs Gate 2 made me cry in the epilogue screen ;3;

07:33 <Gladiolus> Viconia was too good for this woooorld.

07:33 * Gladiolus latches onto CocoPommel

07:33 <Gladiolus> I meant ConfusionRift but w/e

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07:33 <LisaSquarepants> better! :P

07:33 <LisaSquarepants> helloww

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07:36 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.

07:36 <LisaSquarepants> for some reason when i type my name it doesent work

07:36 <Finwe> Miss LisaSquarepants.

07:37 * Finwe doffs his hat.

07:37 <LisaSquarepants> but typing something silly does work for some reason

07:37 <LisaSquarepants> heyy Finwe

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07:46 <roflin> Typing something silly always works.

07:47 <LisaSquarepants> well atleast for me :)

07:47 <LisaSquarepants> so what where you talking about?

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07:53 <CleverDerpy> good morning~

07:53 <LisaSquarepants> hiii :D

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07:54 <CleverDerpy> how are you, LisaSquarepants?

07:55 <LisaSquarepants> a bit bored and you?

07:55 <CleverDerpy> same

07:56 <LisaSquarepants> what are you doing now then?

07:59 <LisaSquarepants> i'm playing the sims

08:00 <CleverDerpy> which one?

08:01 <LisaSquarepants> 4

08:01 <LisaSquarepants> but i'm doin it sneaky >:)

08:01 <LisaSquarepants> doing

08:01 <LisaSquarepants> because it's 12+

08:01 <CleverDerpy> hey, at least it's not 18+

08:02 <LisaSquarepants> meh

08:02 <CleverDerpy> then I might be concerned

08:02 <LisaSquarepants> i dont really like 18+ games

08:02 <CleverDerpy> good, you're a smart kid

08:02 <LisaSquarepants> why would you be concerned then?

08:02 <LisaSquarepants> i can play gta

08:03 * CleverDerpy ponyshrugs

08:03 <LisaSquarepants> my brother downloaded it on the pc

08:04 <LisaSquarepants> i once clicked on it by accident

08:04 <CleverDerpy> ah, so you have a family computer

08:04 <LisaSquarepants> i played it for about 8 seconds

08:04 <LisaSquarepants> yep

08:05 <LisaSquarepants> and you?

08:06 <Finwe> Lt CleverDerpy!

08:06 <Finwe> _o7

08:06 <CleverDerpy> I have a personal computer

08:06 <CleverDerpy> RAdm. Finwe

08:06 * CleverDerpy salutes

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08:07 <LisaSquarepants> what does Lt and RAdm mean?

08:07 <CleverDerpy> military ranks

08:08 <LisaSquarepants> oh okay

08:08 <LisaSquarepants> my computer is being so weird

08:09 <LisaSquarepants> when i type it is very slow and i get alot of weird ads

08:09 <CleverDerpy> sounds like a virus

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08:09 <ger\v> see and this happnes too

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08:10 <CleverDerpy> you have a dynamic IP

08:10 <CleverDerpy> based on everything you told me

08:10 <LisaSquarepants> and sometimes it opens the page where i was in another window and the old one becomes an ad

08:10 <LisaSquarepants> sorry for all the text at once :P

08:10 <CleverDerpy> that's adware, which is a kind of virus

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08:11 <LisaSquarepants> that probbally didint make any sence

08:11 <LisaSquarepants> that doesent sound good!

08:11 <LisaSquarepants> poor computer!

08:11 <CleverDerpy> I wish I could help you

08:12 <CleverDerpy> but it would be hard to expalin

08:12 <LisaSquarepants> try it

08:12 <LisaSquarepants> pleeaase...

08:12 <LisaSquarepants> it's so annoying1

08:12 <LisaSquarepants> !

08:12 <CleverDerpy> hold on

08:12 <CleverDerpy> let me get my stuff

08:12 * LisaSquarepants grabs her pc tight

08:12 <LisaSquarepants> :P

08:13 <LisaSquarepants> brb

08:14 <LisaSquarepants> backsies

08:14 <CleverDerpy> ok, there's a program that can get rid of viruses, it's called an anti-virus software

08:14 <LisaSquarepants> sounds good

08:14 <CleverDerpy> I have the link to this particular one that works very well

08:14 <ConfusionRift> Sleep time. Laters.

08:14 <CleverDerpy> all oyu have to do is download and run it

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08:15 <LisaSquarepants> but my dad says downloading stuff makes it worse

08:15 <CleverDerpy> but before you do anything, imma give you the link, let your parents look at it,

08:15 <LisaSquarepants> okay

08:16 <CleverDerpy> it does, but if it fixes the problem, then it's not a bad idea to try

08:16 <CleverDerpy> at least in this case

08:16 <LisaSquarepants> so it doesent make it worse?

08:16 <CleverDerpy> I have fixed many computers with this

08:16 <LisaSquarepants> can i have the link?

08:16 <LisaSquarepants> oh yeah thank you :D

08:16 <CleverDerpy> it's not so much how you download, but rather what you download

08:17 * LisaSquarepants hugs CleverDerpy

08:17 <LisaSquarepants> does spongebob games count too?

08:17 * CleverDerpy hugs back and purrs

08:17 <LisaSquarepants> :3

08:17 <CleverDerpy> make sure you ask your parents if you need permission

08:17 <LisaSquarepants> i will

08:17 <LisaSquarepants> (probbally...)

08:18 <CleverDerpy> https://www.malwarebytes.com/mwb-download/ select free download at the bottom, the file is called mbam

08:18 <LisaSquarepants> thanksies

08:18 <LisaSquarepants> but i gtg :(

08:18 <CleverDerpy> i'll see ya then

08:18 <LisaSquarepants> byeee

08:18 <CleverDerpy> bya~

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08:19 * PinkieShy screams madly

08:19 <PinkieShy> sans in undertale keeps killing me!

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08:23 <unicodingunicorn> !seen ChaosDragoness

08:23 <DerpyBot> unicodingunicorn: The last time I saw ChaosDragoness was 2016-05-04 18:08:15 UTC

08:23 <unicodingunicorn> aww...

08:40 <Finwe> o3o

08:40 <Finwe> Mr unicodingunicorn.

08:40 * Finwe doffs his hat.

08:40 <unicodingunicorn> RAdm. Finwe

08:40 * unicodingunicorn hats on Finwe

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09:10 <RazorSharpFang> !seen RazorSharpFang

09:10 <DerpyBot> RazorSharpFang: Silly filly, your eyes are all derpy. RazorSharpFang is in the channel.

09:10 <RazorSharpFang> As I thought!

09:14 <Ali> !seen straight

09:14 <DerpyBot> Ali: The last time I saw....will you cut that out already?!

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09:16 <RazorSharpFang> Has anyone with the username straight come to the channel yet?

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09:29 <Pony_8> hi i come here from gupshupcorner and we are appalled by your servers oppression toward muslims so we will be protesting canternet for your suppression of our people and please vote for saddam hussein for president 2016 does anyone agree?

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09:30 <RazorSharpFang> I disagree

09:30 <Pony_8> why do u disagree?

09:30 <RazorSharpFang> You claim oppression. Please supply evidence of your claim.

09:30 <RazorSharpFang> How have we wronged you?

09:31 <Pony_8> if u go to the gupshupcorner site u will see our chat and it is connected to the server

09:31 <WuBzY> Just someone kick this guy

09:31 <Pony_8> but we were not allowed to join other channels

09:31 <WuBzY> He's annoying

09:31 <Pony_8> fuk you wubzy racist 2 iraqis

09:32 <Pony_8> stop oppressing iraqis

09:32 <RazorSharpFang> Please watch your language. This is a family friendly channel.

09:32 <Pony_8> and stop your hte again muslims

09:32 <WuBzY> Shots fired!!!

09:32 <Pony_8> wubzy stop being racism to muslim pls

09:33 <Pony_8> and vote for saddam 2016

09:33 <RazorSharpFang> Pony_8: I don't see why you can't join other channels. You can even make your own channels here if you want on canternet.

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09:33 <WuBzY> lmao

09:33 <Pony_8> we couldnt on the gupshupcorner chats

09:33 <RazorSharpFang> We don't have any affiliation on those chats.

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09:33 <RazorSharpFang> Those are literally other people.

09:33 <WuBzY> You're the worst troll ever

09:33 <Pony_8> and then u ppl ban us from theservers

09:33 <RazorSharpFang> Pony_8: We're not them.

09:34 <Pony_8> gupshup is part of canternet

09:34 <RazorSharpFang> I think you have the wrong server.

09:34 <WuBzY> I think you're on the wrong world

09:35 <Pony_8> then why are gupshup chat on server?

09:35 <RazorSharpFang> Pony_8: Hang on, Isn't gupshup a bot deployment mechanism? https://www.gupshup.io

09:35 <Pony_8> #gsc

09:35 <RazorSharpFang> Pony_8: We don't control gupshup. It's something anyone can setup whenever they want on any channel really. It's just a bot.

09:36 <Pony_8> then why are muslims banned outside gsc?

09:36 <WuBzY> Pony_8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z48NmdWbquw

09:36 <RazorSharpFang> They are not. We don't have any restrictions like that.

09:36 <RazorSharpFang> We do not discriminate based on religion.

09:37 <Pony_8> this would not happen if saddam president we have air control in americca if saddam president

09:37 <RazorSharpFang> Look, we have no such restrictions like that. People of all religions can join whatever channels they please.

09:38 <Pony_8> trump flew airplane in tower clinton flew another plane in other tower and saddam ban air travel to prevent more 9/11

09:38 <RazorSharpFang> If that's what you want to believe, Pony_8, you can believe that.

09:38 <RazorSharpFang> No thought police around here.

09:39 <Pony_8> i believe allah ackbar

09:39 <RazorSharpFang> Doesn't that literally translate to "God is great?"

09:39 <Coco_Nut> Yeah

09:39 <RazorSharpFang> You can totally believe that.

09:39 <RazorSharpFang> That's fine.

09:40 * Ali sniffs the air, she smells a troll

09:40 <Pony_8> will u vote saddam hussein? he will make iraqi america great again

09:40 <Pony_8> saddam 2016

09:40 <RazorSharpFang> I don't think he's even running.

09:41 <Pony_8> he is write in candidate

09:41 <RazorSharpFang> Those don't count for much.

09:45 * Ali noms on the RazorSharpFang

09:45 * RazorSharpFang is nommed on apparently.

09:45 <Pony_8> saddam make america great

09:45 <RazorSharpFang> Ali: I myself think it's a troll.

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09:46 * Ali thought she smelled a troll

09:46 <WuBzY> https://youtu.be/z48NmdWbquw?t=1m25s

09:46 <WuBzY> They dun staph comming

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09:47 <RazorSharpFang> There have been quite a few good iterations of that song.

09:47 <WuBzY> Ye

09:47 <Pony_8> wubzy is fuk stupid

09:47 <WuBzY> k

09:47 <djazz> xD

09:47 <Pony_8> raism wubzy hating iraqi

09:47 <WuBzY> Oh no what I do

09:47 <WuBzY> I got burned

09:47 <RazorSharpFang> WuBzY: My favorite one is "♫ Somebody once asked could I spare some change for cash I need to get myself away from this place. I said no. ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪"

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09:48 <WuBzY> rekt

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09:49 <RazorSharpFang> WuBzY: Here's a funny (sorta) one http://spacehunter-m.tumblr.com/post/142886578296/re-creation-of-one-of-my-favorite-audio-posts

09:49 <WuBzY> XDD

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09:50 <RazorSharpFang> I don't know if I just like it ironically or if I just like it.

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09:58 <RazorSharpFang> I'm off to sleep guys, cya later

09:58 <Fn> Bye

09:59 <Finwe> Sweetish dreams, RazorSharpFang.

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10:14 <Night_Blitz> Finwe: *swedish dreams

10:19 * Schism rolls into the channel, and takes a food processor to some basil, parmesan and asiago cheeses, olive oil, pine nuts, and a bit of kosher salt.

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10:25 <Pony_1> vote for saddam hussein 2016 and make iraqi america great again this message is sponsored by #gsc and fuk the racism in the server

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10:27 <Finwe> Mr Schism.

10:27 <Lumindia> kek

10:27 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.

10:27 * Schism doffs his pesto.

10:27 * SunsetShimmer feeds Schism a ghysahl green!

10:27 * Schism wark!

10:27 * Finwe doffs his bratwurst and sauerkraut.

10:28 <Finwe> Three sausages left from yesterday, they shall be part of my lunch today.

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10:42 * Finwe noms on the aforementioned sausages served with Dijon mustard, garlic sauerkraut and salad.

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10:43 * Finwe ear-wiggles.

10:43 <Finwe> !plot

10:43 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*

10:43 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*

10:44 <Lumindia> !plot

10:44 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*

10:44 * Lumindia wigglewiggle

10:44 <Lumindia> <3

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10:46 <Schism> *wigglewiggle*

10:46 <Finwe> :3

10:46 * Finwe hugs Lumindia and Schism.

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11:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #595 [ http://tinyurl.com/ho5f8w6 ]

11:06 <Schism> Anyone here from .au?  If so... what in the name of all that is good and holy have your Queensland voters done?

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11:10 <Fall> That's a good question.

11:11 <Schism> They voted in Malcolm Roberts, a known holocaust-denying, anti-semite, anti-tax, anti-climate-change sovereign citizen to the Senate, that's what they've done.

11:11 <Coco_Nut> Also apparently a pointless question

11:12 <Fall> 2016 is apparently the year for election results that somehow nobody who voted actually agrees with.

11:13 <Schism> Yes, well, I just have to stare, shake my head, and remind myself that we're the country that had Harper as our PM for so long.

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11:14 <Schism> But yes, the guy evidently believes that climate change is an international conspiracy foisted upon unwitting parties by the United Nations - which, of course, is a Zionist conspiracy.

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11:26 <allahsnackbar> attention canternet due to your ongoing oppression of gupshupcorner users we are now declaring holy war again canternet until saddam hussein is president of america or the oppression ends whatever comes first

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11:26 <Schism> Welcome to the channel!  Here's a life.  Please apply it to yourself and return thereupon.

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11:35 <Schism> So, Fall, that was two in an hour.

11:35 <Schism> The kiddies must be really bored this morning, eh?

11:35 <Fall> This particulay hour, yes

11:35 <FreezeFrame> That troll decided to pop into Discourse as well.

11:36 <Cyan_Spark> Pretty much every channel they fancied upon, actually

11:36 <Schism> Probably my fault, sorry FF.

11:36 <WildSoft> he's been in many channels and with other names

11:36 <Schism> Though not surprising if they're just going down the /list.

11:36 <FreezeFrame> Eh, I don't get to use my op powers enough there.

11:37 <WildSoft> Fall: It's 13:37 here

11:37 <Schism> Totally 1337, d00d.

11:38 * Schism rolls over to Heartbreak, and boops with some soft Italian bread filled with sour cream and topped with orange preserves.

11:38 <Schism> (Wait, not sour cream.  Cream cheese.)

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12:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Guardians of Harmony UK Pre-orders Available Now  [ http://tinyurl.com/znqa34n ]

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12:11 <Schism> I'm not sure if this is the coolest Tumblr I've ever seen, or the weirdest.  Probably both.  http://andyweir.tumblr.com/

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12:31 <Schism> Pfff.  X3  http://www.thegamercat.com/

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13:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Art Talk: Twilight's Castle  [ http://tinyurl.com/heda3c6 ]

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13:22 <DARK> hello

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13:33 <wobniaR> !wave

13:33 * DerpyBot waves frantically at wobniaR \6.9

13:33 * DerpyBot is pulled back behind the curtains \6.||

13:33 <SunsetShimmer> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bdYLxSp8rU

13:33 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

13:33 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Deus Ex: Mankind Divided - Opening Credits

13:33 <wobniaR> Shhhh

13:33 <wobniaR> I have the game preloaded but I'm at work :(

13:34 <SunsetShimmer> xDDD I dont even have it so...blah!

13:34 <wobniaR> And all the spoilers everywhere

13:34 <wobniaR> Told you I'd gift it to you if you glob ban all chicken variants silly

13:35 <Sour_Sweet> Nuuu

13:35 <SunsetShimmer> xD I'm not even sure what glob ban is defined as

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13:36 <wobniaR> The +g thing

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13:36 <wobniaR> But too late i retract my offer!

13:36 <SunsetShimmer> xD

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13:37 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony.

13:38 <God_of_Puns> greetings

13:38 <wobniaR> Radem and whatnot

13:40 <Sour_Sweet> The question is: If you ban all variants of chicken do you also need to ban all variants of Scoots?

13:40 * Sour_Sweet giggles

13:41 <wobniaR> No

13:42 <wobniaR> I would bap you but you've had enough for now

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13:43 <Sour_Sweet> He run. Like a chicken xD

13:44 <Sour_Sweet> He ran*

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13:44 * Sour_Sweet snuggles wobniaR

13:44 <wobniaR> Androirc likes to disconnect me when my signal strength dips too low

13:44 <wobniaR> Even if I'm still connected

13:45 <Sour_Sweet> Suuure. That's what happened.

13:49 <wobniaR> I assure you it is

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14:01 <God_of_Puns> oh yes its spareribs time

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14:04 <wobniaR> Mmm spareribs

14:05 <Sour_Sweet> I actually had some just yesterday.

14:05 <Sour_Sweet> Though those were not the best ones I had :P

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14:10 <LisaSquarepants> heyy

14:11 <God_of_Puns> hi

14:11 <God_of_Puns> i have returned with a full stomach boy these were good

14:12 <LisaSquarepants> is CleverDerpy still here?

14:12 <LisaSquarepants> yay

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14:12 <LisaSquarepants> i'm gonna try to download that progam now

14:13 <LisaSquarepants> so wish me luck :P

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14:25 <lisasquarepants> ehmm CleverDerpy?

14:25 <lisasquarepants> can you help me with something?

14:28 <Thelema5> !log

14:28 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html

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14:33 <God_of_Puns> whats the log thing bout ?

14:34 <lisasquarepants> it's really funny!

14:34 <lisasquarepants> you can see what everyone said

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14:36 <SunsetShimmer> Logs are basically a text 'recording' of conversation previously held

14:37 <God_of_Puns> hm

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14:46 <wobniaR> The logs contain all of the nerdery of this chat

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14:47 <Thelema5> NOTHING can contain the nerdery of this chat... it shall break free and consume the planet

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14:52 <LisuarePant> CleverDery help!

14:52 <LisuarePant> CleverDerpy

14:52 <LisuarePant> my computer has refreshed itself 2 times now!

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14:55 <LisuarePant> i gtg

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15:05 <God_of_Puns> Thelema5

15:05 <God_of_Puns> pls

15:09 <wobniaR> He's right tho

15:09 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony.

15:10 <Finwe> Messrs God_of_Puns and wobniaR.

15:10 * Finwe doffs his hat.

15:10 <God_of_Puns> howdy

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15:12 <Finwe> Lt CleverDerpy!

15:12 <Finwe> _o7

15:13 <Finwe> and Mr Thelema5.

15:13 * Finwe doffs his hat.

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15:13 <Finwe> It's rather silly not to have noticed before that "alarm" means "to the arms".

15:13 <Thelema5> Hiya, Finwe

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15:14 <Thelema5> Hi there, Vulpor!

15:14 <Vulpor> Hey Thelema5

15:14 * Thelema5 hugs

15:14 <Finwe> Comes from old Italian "all'arme".

15:15 <Vulpor> So, aparently today is the Internet's birthday

15:15 <Vulpor> 25 years ago today

15:15 <Finwe> Vulpor: Yes!

15:15 <Finwe> And Linux turns 25 as well.

15:15 <Finwe> Muffins to everypony!

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15:16 <Vulpor> I am so glad for the internet I would not have met my friends on here with out it!

15:16 <Finwe> Mr Renny.

15:16 * Finwe doffs his hat.

15:17 <Thelema5> It was a different world back then, the internet has caused a worldwide revolution

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15:17 <Fn> Finwe, Lyra would appreciate all'arme

15:18 <God_of_Puns> its a scary place thoe

15:18 <Renny> Ohey, Finwe

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15:40 <Finwe> Be doubly greeted, Double.

15:40 <Double> Yes

15:40 <Double> Hello Finwe

15:40 <Finwe> Hello, Double.

15:40 <Finwe> Hello, Double.

15:40 <Finwe> :3

15:40 <Double> Pff

15:41 <Double> Oh you

15:41 <Finwe> A Double greeting, as promised.

15:41 <Finwe> o3o

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15:47 <Librarian> i got a potential deal to et publicity on a gaming show here

15:47 <Librarian> owo

15:49 <Librarian> mista finwe!

15:49 <Finwe> Mr Librarian.

15:49 <Finwe> _o7

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15:49 * Librarian doffs double

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15:55 <God_of_Puns> nicre

15:55 <God_of_Puns> nice

15:57 <God_of_Puns> well gotta go now see ya

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16:07 <Thelema5> ... I just received a flyer for a memorial golf tournament typed up entirely in comic sans

16:07 * Thelema5 facehoof

16:08 <wobniaR> Comedy like that just writes itself

16:09 * Double doffs Librarian

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16:09 <GreatPakistani> hello from pakistan i have a request and that is have the tally banned party elected as the majority of your american congress pls consider this pls mohammed omar elected as ur president too thank you

16:09 <Thelema5> "in memory of our son who tragically lost his life at the young age of 20 as the result of a farm accident"... in comic sans. Gross

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16:10 <Librarian> wut

16:10 <Thelema5> GreatPakistani, I think political commentary is discouraged in this channel.

16:10 <Librarian> sunset!

16:10 <OctaveSymphony> Thelema5, don't feed the troll

16:11 <OctaveSymphony> It's been coming back all day it seems

16:11 <GreatPakistani> are u voting trump or clinton?

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16:11 *** GreatPakistani was kicked by SunsetShimmer (THOU ART NO LONGER DESIRED HERE!)

16:11 <SunsetShimmer> he just changes IP, btw

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16:11 <GreatPakistani> why u kick me?

16:11 <SunsetShimmer> Why do you think?

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16:11 <GreatPakistani> not nice

16:12 <GreatPakistani> i am from #gsc

16:12 <OctaveSymphony> So stay there.

16:12 *** GreatPakistani was kicked by SunsetShimmer (Stop.)

16:12 <SunsetShimmer> We don't discuss this here

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16:12 <GreatPakistani> why cant i be around americans? this is racist

16:12 <SunsetShimmer> This isn't about racism

16:12 <SunsetShimmer> this is about trolling.

16:13 <SunsetShimmer> MASSIVE difference

16:13 <GreatPakistani> im not trolling

16:13 <SunsetShimmer> Then leave the topic alone

16:13 <SunsetShimmer> this isn't the place

16:13 <GreatPakistani> i get it u like trump ok

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16:14 <GreatPakistani> still racist

16:14 * Double again, doffs Librarian

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16:15 <GreatPakistani> my people in gupshup are being oppressed by racism pls be nice

16:15 *** SunsetShimmer sets mode: +b *!WebChat@Pony-1eruqp.cg-dialup.net

16:15 *** GreatPakistani was kicked by SunsetShimmer (Go away.)

16:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Synopsis for "Pony Point of View" Appears! [ http://tinyurl.com/jtzb2uu ]

16:15 <SunsetShimmer> Dangit, forgot to remove that part

16:15 <wobniaR> Haha

16:16 <wobniaR> You told him

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16:16 <wobniaR> Also dat episode title

16:17 <Librarian> is it over?

16:17 *** DerpyBot sets mode: -b *!WebChat@Pony-1eruqp.cg-dialup.net

16:17 <SunsetShimmer> He'll be back

16:17 <SunsetShimmer> IP changer type, so there's no real permadeath for it

16:19 <Sour_Sweet> Took them some time though to realize this channel is a nice target

16:19 <Sour_Sweet> Compared to other channels it has been quiet here yesterday

16:19 * Schism sighs.

16:19 <Librarian> nuuuu

16:19 <Schism> Dialup, as it happens.

16:20 <Librarian> use them techie magic

16:20 <SunsetShimmer> I'm not a magic techie. :p

16:21 <Librarian> regular magic

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16:21 <Librarian> maybe call big boos colgate?

16:21 <LisSquarepants> hello

16:21 <Librarian> hoi

16:21 <Sour_Sweet> Librarian: He's aware

16:22 <SunsetShimmer> All of the staff are aware

16:22 <LisSquarepants> CleverDerpy?

16:22 <SunsetShimmer> there's just...nooot a lot doable.

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16:22 <Librarian> ohh

16:22 <Sour_Sweet> Yeah they're on it since way too long

16:22 * Librarian gives moral support

16:23 <wobniaR> I've always been curious where that gushup corner channel came from, it's being advertised as some Pakistani and Indian chat but why choose Canternet as a place to settle?

16:23 <Sour_Sweet> ~Nopony knows~~~ *spooky sounds*

16:23 <wobniaR> They're not openly advertising for bronies or fans of the show on their site

16:24 <Sour_Sweet> Mind you though those are not really people from #gsc

16:24 <wobniaR> Yeah i know

16:24 <Sour_Sweet> I figured. Just for the rest :P

16:24 <wobniaR> The regulars i saw in there were speaking either completely broken english or some other languahe using english vowels and letters

16:25 <Sour_Sweet> We just keep throwing SunsetShimmer at them. Nopony can take that for long.

16:25 <Librarian> one punch mare

16:26 <Sour_Sweet> They're .... weird. I had an extended chat with one some time ago. Also their questions in #help are beyond silly

16:26 <wobniaR> Nah it's not in SunsetShimmer's nature to kickban every misbehaving skrub, look at all those warning kicks before the ban

16:26 <Sour_Sweet> I meant that in a more literal way 6_9

16:26 <SunsetShimmer> :P

16:27 <wobniaR> Oh i do agree then

16:27 <wobniaR> We can do the good old wife toss

16:27 <Schism> SunsetShimmer: I still say that Luna is best princess.

16:27 <SunsetShimmer> sure, you CAN say that

16:27 <Sour_Sweet> My Cadance, my love song ...

16:28 <SunsetShimmer> I mean, you'd be wrong, but...still

16:28 * SunsetShimmer is best princess...one day. >.>

16:28 <wobniaR> Love's in bloom everywhere you go

16:28 <wobniaR> Yes i know all the horse musics especially that "old" one

16:29 <Sour_Sweet> I appreciate it. Makes me less of a nerd

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16:30 * wobniaR patpats Sour_Sweet

16:30 <wobniaR> There there, one day you'll be as big of a nerd as me

16:30 <SunsetShimmer> Two days until AA6 demo! ^-^

16:30 <Sour_Sweet> It's one of the first pony songs I bookmarked.

16:31 <wobniaR> Only -30 minutes until mankind divided release on steam!

16:31 <SunsetShimmer> Son of a... >.> *raspberries*

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16:32 * Finwe hats on SunsetShimmer.

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16:33 <Finwe> SunsetShimmer: Silly filly, raspberries is plural, so it's "Son of raspberries", not "Son of a raspberries."

16:33 <Finwe> o3o

16:33 <SunsetShimmer> Your sarcasm is noted!

16:33 <rela> man, that universal championship looks bad

16:34 <SunsetShimmer> Its a shame, yeah

16:34 <SunsetShimmer> looks like a strawberry and blackcurrent twizzler

16:34 <rela> i first thought it was the womans title

16:34 <SunsetShimmer> lol

16:34 <lisasquarepants> if anyone sees CleverDerpy could you tell her i need help please?

16:34 <Sour_Sweet> "Buy this bundle to save 0% off all 1 items!" lol Steam

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16:35 <wobniaR> What a deal I'll take 5

16:35 <rela> to whom it may concern: Inside is released on PS4

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16:36 <SunsetShimmer> Eh, pass. :P If I was gonna buy a PS4 game right now, it would be deus ex or overwatch

16:37 <rela> two days ago i first played Journey

16:37 <rela> man, that was awesome

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16:38 <Schism> Finwe: Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

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16:42 <Sour_Sweet> Now you scared him again.

16:42 <Sour_Sweet> Good job -.-

16:42 * Sour_Sweet giggles

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16:42 <Finwe> Schism: I fart in your general direction, you wiper of other people's bottoms!

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16:43 <Schism> You empty-headed food trough wiper!

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16:44 <Finwe> I burst my pimples at you and call your daughter an unrequested silly thing!

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16:46 <Finwe> Schism: I wave my private parts at your aunties, you heaving lot of second-hand electric donkey bottom biters.

16:46 * Schism also hums the Galaxy Song.

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16:47 <SunsetShimmer> Finwe, go easy with that. :P

16:47 <Finwe> Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving, and revolving at 900 miles and hour...

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16:57 <wobniaR> I like to spi

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16:58 <wobniaR> !link spin

16:58 <DerpyBot> http://derpiboo.ru/349694

16:58 <Schism> !link vinyl scratch spin

16:58 <DerpyBot> https://derpiboo.ru/551042?scope=scpeb9160f64b83ac1b76cc5f7fc31cd62f7f902076d

16:58 <wobniaR> Pls

16:58 <Schism> Here, this is better.  https://derpiboo.ru/1001398

16:59 <Not-Renny> Yusssss

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17:01 <Cepheid> Hullo, pone pones.

17:01 * Schism wavewaves to the CephyCephy.

17:02 <Cepheid> Blood-sugar's a bit better today.  8.7

17:02 <Schism> Good to hear.  o3o  I woke up in the middle of the night with a BG below 2.

17:03 <Cepheid> Yes, I remember.  I was there.

17:03 <Cepheid> You said it was 1.3.

17:03 <wobniaR> You should eat a light snack before going to bed

17:03 <Schism> Yeah.  Memory of last night is a bit fuzzy, as you might expect.

17:03 <Cepheid> I can imagine, yes.

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17:05 <Schism> Oh, found an interesting fic/manga.  "Tales of Demons and Gods".  A guy winds up in a Peggy Sue situation, returning to the start of his schooling, and uses the abilities and knowledge he got while traveling the world after the fall of his hometown in order to save it.

17:05 <Scootaloo> Cheater!

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17:06 <Schism> Oh yes, he cheats in /every way he can./

17:06 <Finwe> Scootaloo: Cluck! Cluck!

17:06 * Schism offers Finwe a bowl of Cream of Scootaloo soup.

17:06 <Scootaloo> I had to earn my wisdom the hard way, through many painful failures and embarrassments

17:06 * Finwe nosm on the Scootaloo soup. o3o

17:07 <Finwe> "noms"

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17:07 <Schism> Scootaloo: Oh, so did he.  The fall of his hometown, the death of his family, his beloved, everyone he knew.

17:07 <Scootaloo> Yeah but he gets a startover

17:07 <Schism> And then he got a second chance, though he had to start back at a power level of 5 - when everyone around him was at least 50.

17:07 <Scootaloo> We don't

17:07 * Surreal_Nightmares nomfs on Finwe

17:07 <Schism> Yup.  This type of fic is commonly called a 'Peggy Sue'.

17:07 <Cepheid> That sounds something like an anime I once watched.

17:08 <Scootaloo> There is no new game+ in real life

17:08 <Schism> Cepheid: Oh?

17:08 <Cepheid> Guy had this weird form of precognition.  But instead of seeing the future, he'd jump back several minutes into the past, to stop a negative event of some sort from happening.

17:09 <Cepheid> Later in the series, he ends up jumping TEN YEARS INTO THE PAST to save his own mother.

17:09 <Schism> Cepheid: There's also the film 'Next', which was received to middling reviews.  The man in question can see two minutes into the future.  The FBI wants to capture him to use his powers of precognition for their own end.

17:09 <Cepheid> Heh.

17:10 <Schism> Cepheid: And heh, remember that scene in Chrono Trigger, where the party camps out in the forest and Lucca goes back in time to save her mom?

17:10 <Cepheid> Alas, his precognition is only in the sense of "jumping back."  He knows something bad is going to happen, but doesn't know what, and has to look around for something that's "out of place."

17:10 * Schism has a twitchy tail.

17:10 <Cepheid> Schism:  Heh, I remember that.  Except in this case, he goes back 10 years in time because in the present time, his mother was just murdered.

17:10 * Schism nods. @_@

17:11 <Cepheid> So 10 years to stop a crime in the making for 10 years.

17:11 <Schism> Indeed.

17:12 <Schism> Boku dake ga Inai Machi sounds similar...

17:12 <Finwe> Sounds like Japanese. :3

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17:12 <Cepheid> It is.

17:14 <Cepheid> Alas, translating it isn't exactly easy.  Romaji is harder to translate than Japanese script.

17:14 <Schism> Heh.  One of the first things this protagonist does is find a common, generally 'worthless' herb, buy up enormous quantities of it (all that's in the city), and then submit a report to the Alchemists' Guild detailing 60 different and enormously beneficial ways to use it.

17:14 <Schism> "A town which is only missing me."

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17:17 <Thelema5> That's still a surprisingly effective tactic.  Think: kale.

17:17 <Scootaloo> Yuck kale

17:17 <Schism> Indeed.  And so, with such a hot commodity, he leverages a few thousand into millions.

17:18 <Cepheid> o/~  Ain't no rest for the wicked, money don't grow on trees, I got bills to pay, I got mouthes to feed, there ain't nothing in this world for free. o/~

17:18 <Schism> ("Haven't you heard?  It makes a bath which has a restorative property on skin!  Noblewomen all over the city are crazy over it!")

17:18 <Cepheid> Kale is... It's disgusting.

17:18 * Schism puts on Cage the Elephant again.

17:18 <Cepheid> I'd rather eat seaweed.

17:18 <Schism> It's alright.  Just gotta prepare it right, same for any sort of collard greens.

17:19 <Cepheid> Or cabbage.  Or lettuce.  Or Okra.  or Spinach.

17:19 <Thelema5> Prior to it being promoted as a superfood, something like 90% of the kale produced went to use as decoration for salad bars and deli cases.

17:20 * Schism offers Cepheid a casserole with kale, eggplant, ricotta and parmesan, a bit of thin-sliced chicken, tomatoes, and carrot shavings.

17:20 <Cepheid> I seriously cannot stand kale, Schism.

17:20 <Schism> (Also pasta.)

17:20 <Cepheid> It's extreemly bitter.

17:20 <Cepheid> It's overpoweringly bitter.

17:20 <Schism> Fair enough, though I find that lends to the flavour of a larger mixed salad.  Avoid endive too, then.

17:20 <Schism> Or chard.

17:21 <Renny> Cepheid, you must try proper kale, then

17:21 <Cepheid> I've tried fresh kale, prepared kale, even kale chips.

17:21 <Cepheid> The bitterness is so overpowering that nothing can mask it.

17:21 <Schism> Kale chips are a thing.  Never tried them myself; I prefer nori slices with wasabi.

17:21 <Cepheid> I would rather eat brussel sprouts, which are also incredibly bitter.

17:22 <Schism> Brussels sprouts are delightful, marinaded in garlic and butter.

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17:22 <Cepheid> I prefer them steamed and nothing on them.

17:22 <Cepheid> Probably ruins all the nutrients in them though.

17:23 <Schism> Nah, that's a good way to eat them.  Try streaming them until they're just slightly tender, then chopping them in half and saute'ing them like that.

17:23 <Schism> Streaming?  Steaming.

17:23 <Cepheid> That's usually how my parents prepare them.

17:23 <Cepheid> Though I prefer them simply steamed.

17:23 <Cepheid> Same with spinach and many other greens.

17:23 <Cepheid> The way my parents prepare greens just... ruins them.  Or makes them unhealthy.

17:23 <Schism> Fair enough.  Though with broccoli, you need a good cheese sauce to ladle atop them.  <.< >.>

17:23 <OctaveSymphony> I've heard it said that steamed/boiled vegetables are very healthy

17:23 <Cepheid> My parents like to bake/broil asparagus doused in garlic, salt and oil.

17:24 * Finwe transports Schism amidst the cabbage fields of Sto Plains.

17:24 * Schism watches them explode as Vimes' carriage rushes past at 88 MPH.

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17:25 <Thelema5> Roasted veggies of all sorts are delightful with just a bit of olive oil, garlic, and cracked pepper

17:25 <Finwe> I had sauerkraut today. o3o

17:25 <Schism> Hmm, Cepheid: Eh, steam some asparagus and give me some lemon and butter.  And then a slab of salmon steak and a bit of rice.

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17:25 <Finwe> with bratwurst and salad

17:25 * Cepheid prefers cod.

17:25 <Schism> Leftovers again?  o3o

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17:25 <Cepheid> But yeah, that works.

17:25 <Cepheid> Steamed asparagus, some cod, and good long-grain rice.

17:26 <Schism> Cepheid: Now, for cod, you need to bread it, and serve with a heap of fries and some malt vinegar and kosher salt.

17:26 <Finwe> Schism: The bratwursts come in packages of 5 sausages.

17:26 <Schism> Aha.  o3o

17:26 <Finwe> So it's 2 and 3.

17:26 <Finwe> I had 2 yesterday and 3 today.

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17:26 <Cepheid> I prefer cod plain.

17:27 <Cepheid> Strangely, I have a preference for a lot of "plain" prepared foods.

17:27 * Schism rolls over, and boops sofapone with a bowl of veggie crackers and some cheddar and tomato dip.

17:27 <Cepheid> ... That song name I just saw reminded me of an ooooold comic I once saw.

17:27 <Schism> Hmm, that reminds me, I should make up some of our ever-popular seven layer dip.

17:27 <Cepheid> Alas, I can't show the comic due to nudity in it.

17:29 * Schism sets down a layer of sour cream, then some refried beans, then some salsa, then some bacon bits, then some more onions, then some sliced avocadoes, then some cheddar cheese.

17:29 <Cepheid> Oh for the love of-  *Wishes he hadn't clicked "Moments" on Twitter, as it pointed out yet *ANOTHER* stupid cop shooting.*

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17:38 * Cepheid blares Rabi-Ribi - RFN - III

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17:41 * Schism loops that Alice theme.

17:42 * CocoPommel steals all seven layers

17:42 * Schism offers CocoPommel some chips to go with that.

17:43 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TvPzpLke3Q

17:43 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about God eater blitz Hannibal is fun

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17:44 * Renny offers Schism thick cut, kettle cooked crisps!

17:45 * Schism headshakes! "No, no. For a dip like this, you need tortilla crisps."

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17:52 * Schism places a Scootaplush on wobniaR's head.

17:54 <Finwe> Schism: Oh, one of these? http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m-ZyPU41Hy43tYw9QKsCsEw.jpg

17:55 <wobniaR> I already have a perfect Scoots plush

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17:55 * CocoPommel applies lime flavored tortilla chips to the dip

17:56 <Cepheid> http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/godeater/images/0/05/GER_Shio_1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151030061604 Hmm...  You think she can pass for a human being? :P

17:56 <CocoPommel> *crunch crunch*

17:56 * Schism notes, "Hence, the famous seven-layer dip."

17:56 <wobniaR> http://nazegoreng.deviantart.com/art/Scootaloo-Custom-Plush-579381878

17:57 <Cepheid> I'll be back in a bit.  Grocery time.

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17:58 <wobniaR> As you can see she's absolutely adorbs

17:58 <Schism> Indeed.

18:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Changeling Remixes! -  UndreamedPanic Remix  / Elias Frost Cover [ http://tinyurl.com/gu7uaew ]

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18:07 * God_of_Puns says hello to everypony

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18:07 * Finwe hays cello to everypony.

18:07 <Finwe> o3o

18:08 <God_of_Puns> 6.9

18:09 <God_of_Puns> how do you do the derp eyes ?

18:09 <Finwe> !wave

18:09 * DerpyBot waves frantically at Finwe \6.9

18:09 * DerpyBot is pulled back behind the curtains \6.||

18:09 <Finwe> 6.9

18:10 <Finwe> !seen Finwe

18:10 <DerpyBot> Finwe: Silly filly, your eyes are all derpy. Finwe is in the channel.

18:10 <Thelema5> !mlfw

18:10 <DerpyBot> http://mylittlefacewhen.com/f/436

18:10 <Finwe> !seen DerpyBot

18:10 <DerpyBot> Look into my eyes.. 6_9

18:10 * DerpyBot puts her front hooves on Finwe's shoulders.

18:10 <Finwe> 6.9

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18:10 <Finwe> Mr KooK.

18:10 <God_of_Puns> :P

18:10 * Finwe doffs his hat.

18:10 <KooK> Finnish

18:11 <Finwe> Can I interest you in some reliable ISP services?

18:11 <God_of_Puns> Thelema5 are you working every day ?

18:11 <KooK> I have a pretty reliable ISP service...

18:12 <Finwe> Guaranteed to reset the connection every 5 minutes?

18:12 <KooK> Eh?

18:12 <Thelema5> God_of_Puns, I generally work Monday - Friday.  Why do you ask?

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18:13 <God_of_Puns> oh just asking because swag

18:13 <KooK> Swaaaaaag

18:14 <KooK> Should I order some food or stay in and make something?

18:14 * Finwe gives some swag and bling to God_of_Puns.

18:14 <KooK> I'm tired, is the issue

18:14 <Finwe> So it should be something comfortable to fall asleep in.

18:14 * God_of_Puns has an unidentified ammount of swag

18:14 <KooK> Swag

18:15 <God_of_Puns> KooK cookinf by yourself is more healthy

18:15 <Sour_Sweet> Finwe: But does it come with a modem capable of Blast Processing?

18:15 <Finwe> I once fell asleep in a plate of lasagne.

18:15 <Finwe> Must've been terribly tired.

18:15 <KooK> God_of_Puns: that depends on where you get your food from, but from this place, yes, yes you would be correct.

18:15 <Librarian> finwe is garfield

18:15 <Finwe> Meow.

18:16 <God_of_Puns> what do you want to cook ?

18:17 <KooK> Nothing

18:17 <KooK> So tired...

18:17 <God_of_Puns> Finwe you could say that lasagne was the meal of your dreams

18:17 <God_of_Puns> oh yes i got this

18:19 <Finwe> God_of_Puns: Approximately so.

18:19 <God_of_Puns> Librarian he how was that pun he he

18:20 <God_of_Puns> i think it needs to be a little cocked up

18:20 <God_of_Puns> :D

18:22 * God_of_Puns drops mice

18:22 * KooK drops fish

18:25 * Finwe KooKs the fish.

18:28 <Schism> "What's the best revenge?" "Living well." "Close.  The best revenge is living well, while your enemy knows you're doing so.  And so, with that, we go."

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18:33 <wobniaR> I'm eating burger noodles right now, living the life

18:34 <Finwe> Schism: What's best in life?

18:34 <Sour_Sweet> I didn't even know such a thing exists

18:35 <God_of_Puns> this is the meaning of life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1bpLH1oyg

18:36 <Thelema5> I'm not clicking that... I hate spoilers.

18:36 <Thelema5> :P

18:37 <Thelema5> !link burger noodles

18:37 <DerpyBot> Twilight says she doesn't have anything in the library about that

18:37 <Librarian> the meaning of life is 42

18:37 <Thelema5> !link https://derpibooru.org/260636

18:37 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about plate telekinesis safe picnic hot dog (and 37 more)

18:38 <Thelema5> !link burger noodles

18:38 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/260636

18:38 <Thelema5> That's better.

18:39 <Thelema5> ... why in the heck is that image tagged "lesbian"? O.o

18:40 <Finwe> If it originates from the island of Lesbos?

18:40 <SunsetShimmer> I guess because of the potential shipping fuel?

18:40 <Thelema5> Silly.

18:40 <wobniaR> Derpibooru is a silly place

18:41 <SunsetShimmer> ^

18:41 <wobniaR> And so are you!

18:41 <Thelema5> It's only a model

18:41 <wobniaR> Yeah but people don't care

18:41 <Finwe> On second thoughts, let's not go to Derpibooru, it is a silly place.

18:41 <wobniaR> If fictional characters next to each other for one second they're shipped

18:41 <God_of_Puns> its not a spoiler by the way

18:41 <God_of_Puns> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1bpLH1oyg

18:41 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Cartoon Horse Clip Clop Clap Real Deal Winner Hee Haw MLP Pony Music Videoooo Thing thing

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18:42 <RazorSharpFang> Hey everypoiny

18:42 <Finwe> I'm surprised. With OTT, a plain old text editor gets blackletter text right.

18:42 <Finwe> https://www.niksula.hut.fi/~vhalkola/untergang.pdf

18:43 <Thelema5> God_of_Puns, I was making a joke- suggesting that your video actually /did/ contain the meaning of life, and therefore I wouldn't view it because I don't want the meaning of life spoiled for me.

18:43 <Librarian> i insist its 42

18:43 <Finwe> The ligatures, the difference between final and medial s, it's all there. o3o!

18:43 <God_of_Puns> oh :D

18:43 <SunsetShimmer> !link https://derpibooru.org/1201505?scope=scpe36be8c86186530514ecd852c5f253282af9f6bbe - all of the adorable. ;3

18:43 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about lesbian dialogue comic sunset shimmer drink (and 17 more)

18:44 <SunsetShimmer> huh...I didn't actually see that tag, I was following the shimmerbetes.

18:44 <wobniaR> Why do you have to link more shipping fuel you sillu

18:44 <Thelema5> XD

18:44 <SunsetShimmer> wobniaR: You know meee and my shipping habituals!

18:44 <Finwe> What does the Twilight-y girl say in the last square?

18:45 <wobniaR> Books

18:45 <Finwe> Books?

18:45 * Finwe ships SunsetShimmer to Indo-China.

18:45 <God_of_Puns> i thought scoots cant fly https://derpibooru.org/images/118643

18:46 <Finwe> It is a known fact that chickens can fly short distances.

18:46 <Finwe> o3o

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18:47 <Thelema5> ... are colors not suppressed on quit message text?

18:47 <Sour_Sweet> Nope

18:47 <Thelema5> Weird.

18:47 <Thelema5> 3 years and I've never noticed.

18:49 <Sour_Sweet> God_of_Puns: I'd argue that's walking on clouds

18:50 <God_of_Puns> :p

18:50 <Finwe> o3o

18:52 <God_of_Puns> we are such a silly groupo

18:52 <God_of_Puns> group

18:54 <Sour_Sweet> The corresponding tag is heresy though

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18:55 <wobniaR> !link heresy

18:55 <DerpyBot> http://derpiboo.ru/430797

18:56 <Finwe> Hearsay.

18:56 <Schism> So, if you were an alien attempting to give proof of intelligence to a native species, what would /you/ do?  My brother and I discussed an example of Pythagoras' theorem, Pi, and of course the Golden Mean.  Mathematics, after all, have to be universal.

18:57 <wobniaR> Something less boring than math

18:57 <Schism> Please, the Golden Mean is /fascinating./

18:58 <Schism> wobniaR: You know the Fibonacci Sequence, right?

18:58 <Finwe> The golden mean of Aristotelianism?

18:58 <Finwe> Oh, that golden mean.

18:58 <Finwe> Schism: Indeed.

18:58 <Schism> 1.6180339 etc. etc.

18:59 <SunsetShimmer> " So, if you were an alien attempting to give proof of intelligence to a native species, what would /you/ do? " - Give them a rubiks cube.

18:59 <Finwe> Recall the picture of a woman evicting a cat from her row of tomatoes?

18:59 <Schism> Yup.  X3

18:59 <Schism> Even better.  Finwe, as the Fibonacci Sequence carries on, if you divide the last number in the set by the previous one, it approaches the ratio.

18:59 <Finwe> A good example of the harmony immersed in the golden ratio.

19:00 <Finwe> Of course it does. o3o

19:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: PMV: Equestria of the Dead / Academy [ http://tinyurl.com/gptvbah ]

19:00 <wobniaR> Free your mind

19:01 <Bubs> in a situation like that, mathematics needs a big assumption: base 10

19:02 <Schism> Certainly not. An iterative sequence like this doesn't depend on the base: it can be happily run in base 8, base 3, or base 25.

19:02 <Finwe> But not in base 0.

19:02 <Bubs> sure, you can use other bases as (although every base is base 10 in its own base). but we're used to explaining them in base 10

19:02 <Finwe> o3o

19:04 <Schism> You can't take two from three, two is less than three..

19:05 * Fn applies Schwäbisch to Finwe

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19:06 <Finwe> o3o?

19:06 <Fn> I wedde, du verschdehschd ned vil davo

19:07 <Finwe> Schwaben hasn't been quite the same since the frogs took Alsace.

19:07 <God_of_Puns> Fn close enough

19:07 <Sour_Sweet> Good enough so it doesn't go through a translator :P

19:07 <Fn> I have discovered that baeryth and shwaben language are only 40% intelligible with german

19:07 <God_of_Puns> :D

19:07 <Thelema5> You can probably determine the base of an alien's number system by counting their gripping digits

19:07 <Fn> Which is lower csore than Dutch and German!!!

19:08 <Thelema5> Or tenticles, in certain cases.

19:08 <Fn> I kann do Swäabish, Mo

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19:09 <Fn> I kann di mol

19:09 <Fn> Baeryth is a foreign language for me though

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19:10 <Fn> I live in Stuttgart, so I can into shwaben dialect

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19:11 <Finwe_> o3o

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19:13 <Finwe> I'm only used to standard Hochdeutsch.

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19:14 * Finwe is smooshed.

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19:14 <Fn> I find it weird that Schwaneb and Bavarians are so alien to other german dialects

19:15 <Fn> Usually they merely deviate in little things like "Ich -> Ik" or "der -> de"

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19:15 <Fn> But these two are like entire languages

19:17 <Finwe> Well, Friesisch is quite different from the mainline German as well.

19:17 <Finwe> Very close to Dutch.

19:17 <Finwe> And closer to English than English itself. :D

19:18 <Fn> Really?

19:18 <Fn> I need to check that one out

19:18 <Finwe> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friesische_Sprachen

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19:20 <Finwe> https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haadside

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19:21 <Finwe> Mr Not-Renny.

19:21 <Not-Renny> Herr Finwe!

19:22 * Finwe doffs his Frysk Wikipedy.

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19:31 <Fn> German is such a Clustersprache!

19:35 <Thelema5> Finwe, have you ever made wine?

19:37 <Finwe> No, grapes don't grow this far north.

19:37 <Thelema5> I have been harvesting wild grapes from my property with the intention of making an unusual wine, but they are super acidic.  I'm curious how it'll turn out.

19:38 *** Cephy-AFK is now known as Cepheid

19:38 <Finwe> All grapes are acidic.

19:39 <Finwe> One of the reasons not to eat them before tasting wine.

19:39 <Thelema5> Yeah, but these doubly so.  They're a wild variety, never cultivated.  They're very small, about the size of blueberries- and not especially sweet.

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19:39 <Finwe> Mr Coco_Nut.

19:39 * Finwe doffs his hat.

19:39 <Thelema5> I guess I'll give it a shot and see how it comes out.

19:39 <Finwe> That's about the only way to find out.

19:40 <Finwe> Unless you find someone who has tried already.

19:40 * Cepheid flops about.

19:41 <Coco_Nut> Finwe, It's Ms. or Miss. if you'd rather.

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19:41 <Finwe> Oh, I apologise for my crass mistake.

19:41 <Finwe> Miss Coco_Nut.

19:41 * Finwe bows.

19:41 * SunsetShimmer snerks

19:41 <Cepheid> It's not that crass.  Given we can't identify everyone's gender on IRC.

19:42 <Finwe> On the average there are more males than females, so my guess was a justifiable one.

19:42 <Coco_Nut> It's quite all right

19:43 <Coco_Nut> The demographics of the chat room were against you.

19:43 <Finwe> o3o

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19:44 * Finwe waves his hoof at Coco_Nut: "Mit dem Angriff Steiners wird das alles in Ordnung kommen."

19:44 <Thelema5> I made this mistake in a business email- the client's first name was Toby, so I assumed the masculine pronoun would be appropriate.  She responded rather crossly.  Now I'm in the habit of checking email addresses on social media to determine the best one to use.

19:45 <Cepheid> ...

19:45 <Cepheid> People are too sensitive.

19:45 <Finwe> Well, it's a vernacular form of "Tobias", which is a male name.

19:45 <Schism> I think that's an honest mistake.

19:45 <Finwe> Would be illegal here in Finland to give that to a baby girl.

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19:46 <Schism> Thelema5: I've had female coworkers with the name "Ed" before, and there are lots of names like that, such as Jean.

19:46 <Cepheid> ... It's illegal to give a child a name that isn't associated with the gender?

19:46 <Finwe> I recall so.

19:47 <Cepheid> Not going to ask how that came about.

19:47 <Schism> Not, really, that I've ever had a client or coworker with the name 'Edward Wong Hau Pepelu Tivrusky IV'.

19:47 <Finwe> http://www.finlex.fi/en/laki/kaannokset/1985/en19850694.pdf

19:48 <Cepheid> I prefer to go by Andrew Richard Dionne.  My full name includes a baptismal name, which I shun.

19:48 <Finwe> Chapter 6, section 32.

19:48 <Thelema5> Shun the nonbeleiver

19:48 <Schism> Shuuuunnnn

19:48 <Schism> And while I've had several nommes de plume, I tend to go by 'Dennis' for my professional name, and 'Kyle' for my personal.

19:49 <Cepheid> I generally go by Andrew.  I dislike nicknames based on that.

19:49 <Cepheid> So if you call me "Andy" I will gut you.

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19:49 <Schism> And if we call you 'Drew'?

19:50 <Thelema5> "I didn't know you were called Denis!"

19:50 <Cepheid> No, Schism.

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19:50 <Finwe> Dennis the Menace. o3o

19:50 <Cepheid> For that, I'll kick you in the crotch area.

19:50 <Schism> Thelema5, well, at least that's better than --

19:50 <Thelema5> Tim?

19:50 <Schism> Finwe: Damnit, every single time.

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19:50 <roflin> when suddenly highlights :+

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19:52 <Finwe> There it is, Section 32b, subsection 2, subsubsection 2: "A name cannot be approved as a forename without a reason specified in subsection 3 if [...] 2) the name is a woman's name given to a boy or a man's name given to a girl"

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19:53 <Schism> What I want to know is, how do they discern which gender belongs to which name?

19:53 <wobniaR> Probably based on old names or some outdated feminine association with names

19:54 <Schism> Probably.

19:54 <Thelema5> I've used the feminine form of my name since gradeschool

19:55 <Schism> Can't do so here.  Denise and Kayla are undeniably feminine.  Ah well.

19:55 <wobniaR> My name is associated with both sexes and has variants

19:55 <Thelema5> So I sometimes confuse people, but I don't mind being addressed by any particular pronoun.

19:56 * Cepheid bops and dances to Bad Apple!!

19:56 <wobniaR> So I'm just like whatevs

19:56 <wobniaR> You guys can call me wob, wobniaR, wobbykun whatever you prefer

19:56 <Cepheid> A co-worker of mine has a name that is regularly mispronounced due to the way it's written.

19:56 <Cepheid> Kyla.  Take a guess how it's pronounced.

19:57 <Finwe> Schism: I believe that they know it by subsection 1, which states that if "the form or spelling of the name is contrary to the naming practices in Finland" it can't be given to a child.

19:57 <Thelema5> Is that Klingon, Cepheid?

19:57 <Cepheid> Nah.

19:57 <Finwe> In addition, it's forbidden to give exactly the same name as a sibling or stepsibling has.

19:58 <wobniaR> Name your kids Goku guya

19:58 <wobniaR> Goku is a perfectly respectable nane

19:58 <Cepheid> The first syllable rhymes with sky.  The rest is as you would expect.

19:58 <Schism> Finwe: Bureaucratic logic.  But... that's almost reasonable.

19:58 <Cepheid> Finwe:  Please tell me it's also illegal to name your child <YourNameHere> Junior.

19:59 <Thelema5> I had a coworker named Kari, pronounced "car-ee", she frequently got annoyed with people pronouncing it the way one would expect.

19:59 <Fn> Rififi is a very nice movie

19:59 <Fn> Can't get more classic than this

20:00 <Finwe> In Norwegian Kari is a woman's name, but in Finnish it's a man's name. o3o

20:00 <Schism> I have a lot of French customers all of a sudden.  I try my best, but I don't always get it right.

20:00 <Finwe> Cepheid: Well, you can't have exactly same name as your father or mother.

20:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Story: At the Riverside [ http://tinyurl.com/zklwsz2 ]

20:01 <Schism> One of my finest moments was when I pronounced a customer whose name is 'Guy' correctly.

20:01 <Finwe> Or at least I believed so.

20:01 <Cepheid> Finwe:  Yeah, it's just that the whole <YourNameHere> Junior thing is a bit more common over here than I'd like.

20:01 <Schism> He congratulated me on it.

20:01 <Sour_Sweet> wobniaR: What about chicken? 6_9

20:02 <Cepheid> Nothing says egotism like naming your child exactly after yourself.

20:02 <Finwe> Now that I check, it doesn't say so in the Names Act.

20:02 <Fn> Did you pronounce it as "Güy"?

20:02 <Schism> 'Gee', with a soft G.

20:02 <Finwe> Like the French name Guy?

20:02 <Schism> Exactly.

20:02 <Fn> Like "Julien"?

20:02 <Thelema5> I work with two Fathers / sons with Senior and Junior names... it gets confusing.

20:02 <Schism> Fn: Precisely.

20:03 <Sour_Sweet> That is still pretty common in /blue blood/ families in Europe Cepheid expect for they add a unique first name and append the others.

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20:03 <Schism> I do my best when my customers call in from other locales. I know that many of them get fed up with English pronounciations for French words.  So I make it a point to learn some measure of French...

20:03 <wobniaR> Phillipe Guy Gustave L'Grand the 25th

20:04 <Fn> I assume, tu ne parle pas tres francais, Schism

20:04 <Fn> ?

20:04 <Schism> Non.

20:04 <Finwe> "français"

20:04 <DashedRainbows> Good afternoon ponies. What's up?

20:04 <wobniaR> I like my internet alias more than real names

20:04 <Finwe> Hello, DashedRainbows.

20:04 <Fn> I don't have that weird c ready on my keyboard

20:04 <DashedRainbows> Pronouncing French is hard

20:04 <unicodingunicorn> ć?

20:05 <Finwe> It's so late afternoon here that it's already past 11 p.m.

20:05 <Fn> très très dur

20:05 <Thelema5> Hi, DashedRainbows.  Up is a direction relative to the predominant pull of gravity.

20:05 <Schism> I can, in some circumstances, comprehend French.  However, many customers offer a dialect which is so thick and fast that I can't even decipher the bare minimum.

20:05 <DashedRainbows> Hey Finwe

20:05 <Finwe> unicodingunicorn: No, with cedilla.

20:05 <Finwe> ç

20:05 <Schism> And that's fine.  That's their language.  But all I can do is help them along to another department.

20:05 <roflin> wait, Finwe you are on GMT+2, I thought scandinavia were also in +1.

20:05 <Finwe> On mine it's AltGr + accent key followed by c.

20:05 <DashedRainbows> Thelema5: yeah I always day that, but it's a metaphor

20:06 <Thelema5> :P

20:06 <Finwe> roflin: GMT+3 at the moment.

20:06 <unicodingunicorn> ooh

20:06 <Finwe> East European Summer Time.

20:06 <roflin> ow yeah because of DST :(

20:06 <Fn> Schism, french can understand italians, but not the other way around

20:06 <Finwe> Finland uses GMT+2 as normal time.

20:06 <Fn> Just because of the way french contort the sounds of the same words o3o

20:06 <Sour_Sweet> Finwe: Doesn't work for me ;-(

20:07 <Finwe> This was in a XFCE4 terminal with Swedish keyboard layout.

20:07 <Schism> That is because French is a language composed by sadists and the full hatred of the Roman Empire.

20:08 <DashedRainbows> Hmm

20:08 <Cepheid> Schism:  I've reached a point where I no longer care for dealing with the French Language.

20:08 <Finwe> Schism: And Frankish.

20:10 <Schism> ... And?

20:10 <Finwe> The way to count in multiples of 20 is of Germanic origin.

20:10 <Schism> Cepheid: Starting to wonder why you cared about it in the first place.

20:10 <Cepheid> Because I need it to get a job in this city.

20:10 <Schism> Ah right.

20:11 * Finwe boops Schism quatre-vingt-dix-neuf times.

20:11 <Fn> quatre vingt... Pourquoi, pourquoi il devrait exister ???

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20:11 <Cepheid> But I've reached the point of insanity and depression over it that has caused me to just go *YAY* it.  Screw the French language.  Screw the hypocritical and pushy French who refuse to learn English while pushing French on everyone else.  Also, screw many parts of Quebec.

20:11 <Schism> You could have toned that down and just led with the last.

20:11 <Cepheid> True.

20:11 <Cepheid> Actually, I technically did tone it down.

20:12 <Schism> Well, that's encouraging.

20:12 <Cepheid> The actual statements I made during my breakdowns were much worse.

20:12 <Schism> I think we can agree.  Can we just say that when next the Quebecois decide to secede from Canada, we can just say, "Go RIGHT AHEAD"?

20:12 <Finwe> You can lay the blame on the rebellious British colonies who did not take part in the war to drive the French out.

20:12 <Cepheid> There are good French people, I'll acknowledge this.  In France.

20:13 <Finwe> Quite on the contrary, they fraternised with them.

20:13 <Fn> Pourquoi ne pas "octante" ou "huitante"???

20:13 <Fn> Est-ce trop dur, est-ce???

20:13 <Schism> Seriously.  They want to be their own country?  Let them be.  Let them deal with their own stuff.  Goodbye, let them deal on the international stage while you're surrounded by US.

20:13 <Cepheid> Quebec is full of people who are just stuck-up jerks.  With the occasional bilingual and English-only individual who lives in Quebec for the beauty of it.

20:13 <Finwe> Qu'est-ce que c'est?

20:14 <Schism> No.

20:15 <Schism> THough, yes.

20:15 <Fn> Finwe, I meant to use the "street" thuggish one

20:15 <Schism> Finwe: Let them police themselves.

20:15 <Fn> I know it is not correct, but that's how they actually speak in france now

20:15 <Schism> Let them have everything they want.  Let them have each and every item they desire.  And then LET THEM DEAL WITH IT.

20:16 <Cepheid> A lot of the problem with Quebec is something about cultural preservation.  Apparently the influx of English-speaking people is a problem for them.  It also applies to other foreign languages, though to a lesser degree.

20:16 <Finwe> Fn: The "official" way is awfully redundant.

20:16 <Cepheid> The fun thing is, even though Quebec and France have a common ground in language..

20:16 <Fn> I will never use the "quatre vingt"

20:17 <Schism> Cepheid: Which is funny!  Because if a French nationalist heard Quebecois French, they'd spit out their wine.

20:17 <Fn> I will go either with swiss "huitante" or belgian "octante"

20:17 <Finwe> Imagine saying "Is it so that it is red?"

20:17 <Cepheid> I can guarantee you that France would not want Quebec.  And even if Quebec did join with France, there'd be demands up the wazoo to protect Quebec's language, among other things.

20:17 <Finwe> instead of just asking, "Is it red?"

20:18 <Finwe> or this "What is this, what it is?"

20:18 <Schism> The four reds... hm.

20:18 <Cepheid> Essentially, any country that Quebec joins up with, or is forced to join for whatever reason would be getting nothing but a big headache out of it.

20:18 <Fn> lol Finwe I'll just use "y en rouge"

20:18 <Schism> If Quebec leaves, let whoever gets them have much joy of it.

20:19 <Schism> And let the rest of us settle back in our chairs, steeple our fingers... and have a nice glass of wine.

20:19 <Finwe> If Scotland leaves, we're likely to get them with us in the Nordic countries. o3o

20:19 <Cepheid> Enforcing any sort of federal laws upon Quebec isn't viable.  They won't listen.  I mean for heaven's sake, English and French are the official languages of Canada, but every single sign in Quebec is French and only French.  And the exceptions to that have strict regulations and rules.

20:20 <Cepheid> The French has to be several times larger than the English, and has to be the focus of the sign.

20:20 <Cepheid> They even enforce rules regarding language in menus of restaurants.

20:20 <Schism> Cepheid: Yup.  So.  Once Quebexit hits, let's drink to them - with some Ontario cider.

20:20 <Cepheid> There was a restaurant a while back fined because they didn't use the French word for various Italian dishes.

20:20 <Finwe> We can have unilingual street signs if the other language has at least 90% majority.

20:21 <Cepheid> We have bilingual signs here in Ontario.

20:21 <Fn> Je veux un menu anglais, s'il vous plaît

20:21 <Cepheid> It's kind of forced.

20:21 <Schism> It is.

20:21 <Cepheid> But they're not required in Quebec.

20:21 <Cepheid> Which seems a little... one-sided to me.

20:21 <Schism> In Quebec, everything literally /has/ to be French.  English can only be minimal.

20:21 <Cepheid> Even the International Airport that I visit regularly has all it's signs in French, no English.

20:21 <Cepheid> Or any other language for that matter.

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20:22 <Finwe> Unless there were bilingual street signs originally, in which case they may be changed to unilingual if the majority language reaches 95% majority.

20:22 <Cepheid> The language enforcement is so strict there, I'm actually terrified of the idea of visiting a store in Quebec.

20:22 <Cepheid> Out of fear that I'd be refused service or fined for speaking English.

20:22 <Cepheid> Even if I have a legitimate reason for doing so besides "not knowing the language."

20:22 <Schism> Or overcharged.

20:22 <wobniaR> You could say Cepheid is....peeved

20:22 <Cepheid> A tad, yes

20:23 <Schism> Frankly, that's one reason I'm never going to head up to Ottawa, or any locale near Quebec.

20:23 <Fn> *gasps*

20:23 <Cepheid> Schism:  It's... not THAT bad in Ottawa.

20:24 <Cepheid> Same in Gatineau.  Hence why I said some places aren't too bad.

20:24 <Schism> Considering the airports in this area, I'd probably have to take a connecting flight thereupon.

20:24 <wobniaR> I only speak high elf around others

20:24 <Schism> Kitchener to Quebec to Ottawa.

20:24 <wobniaR> All signs must now be in Sindarin

20:25 <Finwe> wobniaR: Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo!

20:25 <Cepheid> It's just what's got me peeved off among other things is that ever since the whole government-office push for bilingualism(Which isn't both ways, by the way.  Quebec government offices are not required to speak English.), they're pushing for more and more bilingualism in everything while not enforcing any such thing in Quebec.

20:25 <Fn> Klingon ought to bring you places

20:25 <Schism> That'd be nice.  I should cultivate a goodly understanding of D'ni.

20:25 <Finwe> wobniaR plz, don't try that on me.

20:25 <Finwe> Everypony knows that Sindarin is Grey Elven.

20:25 <wobniaR> Yes of course

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20:25 <Cepheid> Want to work along the border to Quebec?  Gotta know English and French.  Want to work in Quebec, even along the border to Ontario?  Only need to know French.

20:25 <Thelema5> Filthy sticking Greys

20:26 <wobniaR> Oh boy here we go

20:26 <Thelema5> *stinking

20:26 <Finwe> Yup.

20:26 <Thelema5> XD

20:26 <Fn> I will invent my own language and force all signs in the world to be in it

20:26 <Finwe> Quenya ftv!

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20:26 <Schism> Cepheid: That is just it.  It's the imperalism and the required language.

20:26 <Fn> Because I am the most correct

20:26 <Finwe> Fn: Like Esperanto?

20:26 <Fn> Better!

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20:26 <Schism> Cepheid: ... Say.  I should know this.  Did you ever solve all the puzzles in URU?

20:27 <Fn> Esperanto ne estas tiel bona

20:27 <Finwe> I still haven't noticed everyone in the world speaking Esperanto, even though they've tried to make the breakthrough for quite a long time.

20:27 <Cepheid> Schism:  Fun thing, one of the many things that stresses me out is the required language thing.  Since I can't speak, read or write French, I feel inferior and useless.  Never mind the fact that it's not exactly my fault I don't know the language.

20:27 <Fn> Mi ne renkontis ajnan tiel

20:28 <Fn> Esperanto lingvo estas stranga

20:28 <Thelema5> http://lernu.net/en

20:28 <Schism> Cepheid: That... yeah.  You're functionally illiterate.

20:28 <Thelema5> Cepheid, can't you get by with a real-time translate app?

20:28 <Schism> And that's horrific.  You don't have a means by which to readily fix that.

20:28 <wobniaR> Khazâd ai-mênu!

20:29 <Cepheid> Doesn't work that well, Thelema5.  And it's generally considered unacceptable for work situations.

20:29 <Schism> wobniaR: I will cut you..

20:29 <Cepheid> Plus it'd offend the nationalist French.

20:29 <Cepheid> See, it's not just enough to know the language fluently.

20:29 <wobniaR> Right that's not elf my bad

20:29 <Schism> Oh gods, that would be hilarious.

20:29 <Cepheid> You have to speak it in a certain way.

20:29 <wobniaR> Got some hardcore tolkien fans here i see

20:29 <Cepheid> There are people who will get offended if you mispronounce a French word.

20:29 <Finwe> Baruk Khazâd! Khazâd ai-mênu!

20:29 <Schism> That would be BRILLIANT.  Throw the French a translator app.

20:30 <Schism> I think they'd explode.

20:30 <wobniaR> I need an al bhrd translator app

20:30 <wobniaR> Al bhed*

20:30 <Schism> Al Bhed.

20:30 <Cepheid> One of my mother's co-workers went on a tirade about her French, which is fluent enough for employment purposes, but she doesn't speak it "correctly" all the time.  Then it sorta just degraded into downright sexism.

20:30 <Thelema5> I use a translator app fairly frequently at work for communicating with native spanish and ukrainian workers

20:30 <Thelema5> It's much more effective with Spanish

20:31 <Cepheid> Oh yeah, speaking of my mother's work.

20:31 <Cepheid> She visited her old workplace because her brother works there, right?  The place that fired her for "not being fluent in French" even though she was sufficiently fluent in French.

20:32 <Schism> Everyone: Pause.  I want everyone to think on this.

20:32 <Cepheid> They can't retain any French workers.  They don't want to do anything, and don't want to converse with English-speaking people.  Her position was a front-desk security guard job for the RCMP college.

20:32 <Fn> ro'oi medomoi bangu tolba'i xo'o

20:32 <Cepheid> An organization that, by law is BILINGUAL.

20:32 <Fn> (that's lojban btw)

20:32 * Finwe noms on Fn's lojban.

20:32 <Schism> I want you to think about everytime you've grown annoyed at a technical support agent who doesn't speak English as their first language.

20:33 <Cepheid> They actually tried to offer my mother her old job back when she visited.

20:33 <Cepheid> Because she was the only one willing to do the job right out of all the French-speaking employees the college hired.

20:34 * Fn darxi lo Finwe ku sufti uau

20:34 <Schism> Not every coworker of mine has English as a first language.  Every. single. one. of them is trying to do the job, regardless.  And they're doing a damned sight better than that bored little 18-year-old who says 'welcome to mcdonalds how can i dake ur ordr'.

20:34 <Fn> (^ act of baps in angry manner)

20:35 <Fn> Thelema5, spanish is more translator-friendly

20:35 <Thelema5> Schism, I /always/ use live chat for support because language and other communications barriers are much more easily overcome (and I have a written transcript afterward of exactly what actions where taken)

20:35 <Schism> Cepheid, your mom actually put effort into her job, and that makes a world of difference.

20:35 <Fn> Ukraininan, like russian has way too many subtleties and meant-but-not-spoken constructs it is hard to translate

20:35 * Finwe duckar Fn:s klatsch.

20:35 <Schism> Thelema5: I haven't that option.  I only have phones.

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20:36 <Schism> Holy /crud/, Ukrainian?  What the heck...?

20:36 <Fn> Uke is easy

20:36 <Thelema5> I also manage my company's inbound chat, I would estimate that a quarter of the people who choose to use it have a non-english native langauge set on their browsers

20:37 <Fn> It just has a huge thesaurus

20:37 <Schism> Browser settings are easy...

20:37 <Fn> Well, and grammar is like 30% more complicated than russian

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20:38 <Fn> I can understand 97% ukrainian

20:38 <Fn> And I never learned it o3o

20:38 <Finwe> Fn: How about Polish?

20:38 <Fn> It is that close to russian

20:38 <Finwe> o3o

20:38 <Cepheid> Anyhow, sorry for my rant there

20:38 <Fn> Yeah polish too, but I am learning it

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20:39 <Finwe> Zal, zal, za zielona, za zielonej Ukraina...

20:39 <Fn> Polish is much less intelligible for a russian (although when written it is far more recognisable)

20:39 <Fn> Polish is like french- very mispronounced language

20:39 <Fn> A lot of psh bzh psh

20:40 <Finwe> Bitte, Fn, jetzt beruhig dich doch.

20:40 <Fn> Belarus and Ukrainian are very very understandable for russians and vice-versa

20:41 <Fn> Polish is more intelligible by ukrainians actually

20:41 <Thelema5> There is a large Ukrainian population in my local area, a ukrainian owned resort and cultural center; the hotel I work at hosts an annual Ukrainian festival, and roughly 15% of my coworkers are native ukrainian speakers.  We also have one native russian speaker, and I /still/ can't tell the difference by ear

20:41 <Fn> They are pretty close, especially for an untrained ear

20:41 <Finwe> This is how civilisation entered Ukraine: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Varangian_routes.png

20:42 <Fn> Bulgaria seems to have drifted a lot through the years

20:43 <Finwe> Not as much as Poland.

20:43 <Finwe> A great part of the original Poland was in modern-day Ukraine.

20:43 <Thelema5> Well, at least I have a killer perogie place nearby

20:43 <Finwe> Piroger!

20:44 * Finwe boops Thelema5 with karelska piroger served with butter-and-egg mixture: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Karelsk_Pirog_med_%C3%A4ggsm%C3%B6r.png

20:48 <Fn> Finwe, welp. Lithuania/Latvia drifted all the way from India

20:48 <Thelema5> Yum!  Oddly, the local perogi and keilbasa shop operates through a literal hole in the wall located at the back of a tool rental shop- goo.gl/7mf1Mh

20:48 <Fn> They owned the Ukraine almost in its entirety at one point

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20:49 <Fn> I'd eat a pierog right now

20:49 <Finwe> http://www.truelithuania.com/Nuotraukos/PolandLithuaniaTodayEurope.jpg

20:49 <Finwe> Fn: Like that?

20:50 <Finwe> ...except that they have the Belarus there.

20:50 <Fn> Oh, I mixed up

20:50 <Fn> They owned Belarus

20:50 <Fn> My bad

20:51 <Finwe> And Poland is at least 50% in Ukraine.

20:51 <Fn> The current Voronezh was Lithuania before that

20:51 <Finwe> And Livonia shared with Sweden.

20:51 <Fn> Funny how a Sanskrit-speaking folk drifted so far west

20:52 <Fn> If they wouldn't hit the Baltic Sea, they would probably be Portugal of today XD

20:53 <Finwe> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/LithuaniaHistory.png

20:54 <Finwe> Oh, it was actually the Grand Dutchy of Lithuania that drove the Poles out of Ukraine.

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20:55 <Thelema5> This still doesn't explain how Yakyakistan and the Crystal Empire share a common language

20:57 <Fn> I am not a history buff

20:57 <Thelema5> Granted, there is a distict difference in dialect, but that's likely due to geographical and temporal seperation.

20:57 <Cepheid> Well, the renderer for my roguelike engine's... done, in a sense.  The core renderer, anyways.  Currently uses SDL, but I've utilized an interface for dealing with the renderer itself.  So as long as the basic operations are implemented, the system can use any graphics API it wants.

20:57 <Fn> I just recall that Lithuanian kingdom was pretty big at one point

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20:58 <Thelema5> Congrats, Cepheid

20:58 <Finwe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balts#/media/File:East_europe_5-6cc.png

20:58 <Cepheid> Just need to get the tile-based rendering in place, come up with a platform-independent input handling system, and I'm good to go.

20:59 <Finwe> Quite confusing, with lots of peoples moving to and fro.

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21:00 <Finwe> Fn: What are the Bulgarians doing around river Volga?

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21:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Cups: Free Trading Cards for Pony Groups Worldwide [ http://tinyurl.com/jqe5zg9 ]

21:01 <Fn> The volga bulgarians used to be a thing

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21:02 <Fn> They assimilated into locals over time though

21:02 <Finwe> Rhubarb has been named after barbarians of Volga.

21:02 <Fn> Same as volga tatars actually

21:02 <Finwe> The Latin name is rheus rhabarbarum.

21:02 <Finwe> Herb of the barbarians of river Rha.

21:03 <Fn> Neat

21:03 <Fn> Etymology is an interesting thing

21:03 <Finwe> They were called barbarians because their language sounded like barbarbarbar in the Greco-Roman ear.

21:04 <Thelema5> ... I just got an email from a guy whose address is a 12 digit string of numbers @gmail.com  O.o

21:04 <Thelema5> I've never seen that before.

21:04 * Finwe hats on Thelema5.

21:05 <CleverDerpy> Thelema5, I wouldn't open that

21:05 <CleverDerpy> it might be an auto generated virus or scam

21:06 <Thelema5> Nope, it's a client asking about meal options.

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21:07 <Fn> maybe 13375p34k ?

21:08 * Thelema5 shrugs

21:09 <Thelema5> It probably has some obscure kabbalistic meaning

21:09 <Finwe> Lt CleverDerpy!

21:09 <Finwe> _o7

21:09 <CleverDerpy> RAdm Finwe

21:09 * CleverDerpy salutes

21:09 <Finwe> Fn: Oh, I'm not sure if I was ever told that the Prussians were a Baltic tribe.

21:10 <Finwe> Well, now I know it.

21:10 <Fn> They are also slavic btw

21:10 <Fn> Slavs that spoke germanic languages

21:11 <Fn> It's complicated

21:11 * Cepheid flops and flails.

21:11 <Cepheid> Bleh, my head is feeling heavy and warm.

21:11 <Finwe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balts

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21:13 * Librarian dances funkee

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21:14 <Finwe> Mr Librarian.

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21:14 * Finwe noms on Librarian's L-space.

21:15 <Librarian> dont go there

21:15 <Librarian> ypu might get sucked in

21:15 <Librarian> we have wild dictionaries in there

21:16 <Finwe> D:

21:16 * Librarian shows a wild dictionary

21:16 <Thelema5> I'm heading home.  Bye, everypony!

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21:16 <Finwe> Is it a Hungarian dictionary?

21:16 <Librarian> it can eat a man in 10 words or less

21:17 <Finwe> Wait, that was a phrasebook, wasn't it?

21:17 * Finwe approaches Schism: "I won't buy this record, it is scratched!"

21:18 <Librarian> you can say its vinyl

21:18 * Librarian puts sunglasses

21:18 <Librarian> scratch?

21:18 <Librarian> yeahhh!

21:18 <Finwe> http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/mlp/images/c/cc/FANMADE_Pinkie_glasses_by_j_brony-d4da2zl.png/revision/latest?cb=20120211030601

21:18 <Finwe> Yeaaaaahhh!

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21:28 * Librarian gives wobniaR augmentations

21:29 <Finwe> He needs quite badly an opinion augmentation.

21:29 <Finwe> Or, rather, an upgrade.

21:30 <Finwe> To agree with these facts: 1) Scoots is chicken and 2) Luna is best princess.

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21:32 * Cepheid FLOPS.

21:33 <Cepheid> Oops, activated capslock.

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21:34 * Fn addressess Finwe: I would like to scratch your leg

21:35 <Finwe> o3o

21:36 * Cepheid looks into applying to university.

21:37 <Cepheid> It's $218 just to put in an application.

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21:37 <Finwe> :0

21:38 <Finwe> It's €0 to study at any university in this country.

21:38 <Fn> It is 193Eur in Stuttgart

21:38 <Fn> Per semester

21:39 <Cepheid> And that's just for the application.

21:39 <Cepheid> Tuition is $4,000 CAD a year, minimum.

21:39 <Fn> Includes a ticket, library and materials

21:39 <Fn> ticket for public transportation that is

21:39 <Cepheid> Finwe:  Would your universities accept someone who's not fluent in Finnish, and is a Canadian? :P

21:39 <Cepheid> Fn:  That's included in Tuition here.

21:39 <Cepheid> Even if we don't use it.

21:39 <Cepheid> And that was only just recently in the last 2 years.

21:39 <Fn> Yes Cepheid you would be accepted

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21:40 <Cepheid> The biggest issue is travelling to Finland and finding a place to live.

21:40 <Fn> Accommodation is not cheap though

21:40 <Cepheid> :P

21:40 <Cepheid> Yeah.

21:40 <Librarian> stop!

21:40 <Cepheid> Probably cheaper than here.

21:40 <Phantasma_Eeria> Hi

21:40 * Librarian time

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21:40 <Cepheid> What's the cost of accomodations there Finwe?  Give an average estimate.

21:40 <roflin> Fn: but wouldn't you have to stay for x years after finishing? or otherwise pay the government back?

21:41 <CleverDerpy> hiya Librarian

21:41 <roflin> whelp nevermind

21:41 <Cepheid> ... Wait.

21:41 <Cepheid> Tuition's gone up at Carelton.

21:41 <CleverDerpy> before you log out randomly, are you ever gonna pay me for the work I did for you?

21:41 <roflin> got Finwe and Fn mixed up:+

21:41 <Cepheid> It's now $7000 minimum.

21:41 <Finwe> Cepheid: The university dorm rooms are about 10–15 m² and cost something like 250 € per month.

21:41 <Cepheid> Yeah.

21:42 <Cepheid> Room and Board here is $10,000 a year.

21:42 <CleverDerpy> tell us why not, sir

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21:42 <Librarian> im sick of school

21:42 <Cepheid> Total cost of on-campus living overall is $20,000 to $28,000 a year.

21:42 <Librarian> i wouldnt go to a live school even if it was free

21:42 <CleverDerpy> Librarian, that isn't an answer

21:42 <Fn> roflin, it depends: in Germany you don't need to pay back at all

21:43 <CleverDerpy> why did you steal art from me...?

21:43 <Fn> I am not sure about Finland

21:43 <Phantasma_Eeria> This reminds me of the "where's my money" scene in family guy

21:43 <roflin> yeah it might have been Norway. I'm not sure.

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21:43 <roflin> one of those cold countries up north :+

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21:44 <Cepheid> Librarian, answer CleverDerpy's question.

21:44 <Scootaloo> I did ask for this!

21:44 <DARK> hello =)

21:44 <Librarian> cant see here

21:44 <roflin> hehe reverse memes

21:44 <Scootaloo> Finally home time for DEUS E X BOIz

21:44 <Librarian> i mean her

21:44 <Finwe> Cepheid: Moreover, the study grant covers 80% of the rent and in addition you get about €400 per month.

21:45 <Finwe> Plus government-backed loan.

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21:45 <CleverDerpy> he's blocking me because he knows he took from me, then turned around and refused to pay for something

21:45 <Cepheid> Librarian:  CleverDerpy is asking why you have failed to pay her for the artwork she did.

21:45 <CleverDerpy> I just want my 20 bucks so I can get on with my life.

21:45 <Librarian> nope

21:46 <Finwe> This of course requires higher taxation that what you have in Canada.

21:46 <Phantasma_Eeria> Librarian: you kinda suck now....

21:49 <Finwe> Cepheid: Practically all exchange students (and international students) take their courses in English.

21:49 <Finwe> To your earlier question.

21:49 <Phantasma_Eeria> CleverDerpy: can I see the art?

21:50 <Finwe> What art are we talkin of?

21:51 <Phantasma_Eeria> The one the CleverDerpy - Librarian argument is ensuing over

21:51 <CleverDerpy> one second

21:51 <CleverDerpy> he asked me for a character art,

21:52 <CleverDerpy> which I designed for him, then he kinda got sour

21:52 <Cepheid> Oh gods, the cost for university is going to put me in considerable debt.

21:52 <Cepheid> $40,000 minimum.

21:52 <Phantasma_Eeria> RIP in pepperoni

21:52 <Sour_Sweet> Scootaloo: Don't play Deus Ex yet. I don't have my copy. That's not fair.

21:53 <Phantasma_Eeria> Dammit all the pepperoni rips are gunna tear a hole in the meat-time continuum

21:53 <CleverDerpy> here was the character art in question: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23909525/stuff/FA%20Stuff%203/Character%20Demo_00001.png

21:53 <CleverDerpy> it was meant to be a base model

21:54 <Phantasma_Eeria> And when did you say you wanted money for it

21:55 <Cepheid> Actually, I got the full story.

21:55 <CleverDerpy> yeah, talk to Cepheid, it's hard to expalin

21:55 * Phantasma_Eeria subs Cephy in for Derpy

21:55 <Phantasma_Eeria> Do tell Cepheid

21:56 <Cepheid> Check PM.

21:56 <Phantasma_Eeria> Just did

21:57 * Scootaloo disregarda Sour_Sweet

21:57 <CleverDerpy> ijust wanna be fair here

21:57 <CleverDerpy> but at the same time, I don't appreciate a snatch and run

21:58 <Phantasma_Eeria> Librarian: from what I've heard my hooves are tied, were this the actual workplace you'd be legally obliged to pay severance, unless CleverDerpy quit, so at least give her that

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21:58 <Phantasma_Eeria> CleverDerpy: it'd be fun to do a collab with you

21:59 <CleverDerpy> thank you~

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22:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #1995 [ http://tinyurl.com/hbkop82 ]

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22:07 <Sour_Sweet> wobniaR: And I thought you liked me ;-/

22:07 <wobniaR> Sure when you stop calling me poultry

22:08 <Phantasma_Eeria> Hey chicken

22:09 <Sour_Sweet> But but butt ... You have to accept your destiny!

22:09 * Sour_Sweet is being silly

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22:15 <wobniaR> Yes i know you are

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22:16 <LunaticHell> gooooood morning, equestria

22:17 <LunaticHell> I just heard a hileriously missguided argument.

22:17 <Cepheid> Sometimes I wish I could draw.  I just realized that my unusual dream from the other night would be a perfect source for a shoot-em-up game.

22:18 <CleverDerpy> Cepheid, maybe if you got the code an idea,

22:18 <CleverDerpy> we could try it?

22:18 <CleverDerpy> my friend on skype can do doom mods

22:18 <LunaticHell> Basically boils down to "ban on specific weapons is stupid, because there are things in daily life that can be used the same way." like "nunchucks are made for choking someone, but I can use my key chain to do the same, so banning nunchucks is stupid" and I was "wat?"

22:19 <CleverDerpy> with his help, maybe we can make your game some kind of reality

22:19 <Cepheid> Not that kind of shoot-em-up.

22:19 <CleverDerpy> oh, oki

22:19 <Cepheid> Think Touhou.

22:19 <LunaticHell> Yukari shitte ne

22:19 <Librarian> yukuri

22:19 <LunaticHell> yeah that

22:19 <Librarian> yukuri shittete nee

22:19 <Cepheid> Heh, ironic.  Listening to a remix of Necrofantasia, Yukari's theme.

22:20 <LunaticHell> But yukari needs to take it easy, too, she's old.

22:20 <LunaticHell> hehehe

22:20 <LunaticHell> About the wall of text I presented

22:20 <Cepheid> I'm not sure youkai can die of old age.

22:21 <LunaticHell> But she is old. o. o

22:21 <Cepheid> Indeed.

22:21 <Cepheid> Older than Gensokyo apparently.

22:22 <Finwe> Good night, everypony. I'm going home and to bed.

22:22 <LunaticHell> nighty finwy

22:22 <Cepheid> CleverDerpy:  As for implementation, it's... It's actually no problem at this point to do a simple game like Touhou.

22:22 * Surreal_Nightmares blankets on Finwe.

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22:22 * Finwe hugs LunaticHell.

22:22 <CleverDerpy> ooh, you mean like endless flyer shoot em up

22:22 <Cepheid> I'm past that point in skill.  I'm well past it.

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22:22 <Finwe> Lt CleverDerpy, you have the bridge.

22:22 <Finwe> _o7

22:23 * CleverDerpy salutes

22:23 <CleverDerpy> aye  aye sir!

22:23 * LunaticHell hugs a Finwe

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22:23 <LunaticHell> hey derp

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22:23 <CleverDerpy> hiya LunaticHell

22:24 * CleverDerpy sits in the idea of patrotlling

22:24 <Cepheid> And at this point, much of the graphics and UI stuff I'd need for a danmaku is easy peasy.  Simple 2D textures for bullets and entities.  Some font rendering for the UI.  Most of the difficulty is in creating the stages.

22:24 <Cepheid> And the AI development.

22:25 <Cepheid> But even that's simplified in a danmaku game.  Most of the AI consists of "Move this way through the field when you spawn."  "At this point in time, start firing."

22:25 <Cepheid> And each bit of AI is self-contained.

22:26 <CleverDerpy> Cepheid, I can do pretty good scrolling textures

22:26 <Cepheid> I don't need scrolling textures, except for backgrounds.

22:26 <CleverDerpy> i have made dynamic parallaxes before

22:26 <Phantasma_Eeria> Like the teostra's supenova, "beat the bejesus out of the hunters" "100 seconds after they annoy you blow them to pieces"

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22:27 <CleverDerpy> here, check this out

22:27 <CleverDerpy> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23909525/stuff/FA%20Stuff%203/Background%20Setup.gif

22:28 <CleverDerpy> i made that

22:28 <Cepheid> Really, the most complicated part of the entire project would not be the graphics, input, etc.

22:28 <Cepheid> It'd be the optimization.

22:28 <Cepheid> Danmaku games have a trait about them that makes them particularly complicated for implementation:  The number of bullets.

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22:30 <RazorSharpFang> You mean the touhou series and whatnot?

22:30 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6FRp7-oBq4 This demonstrates the basic problem.

22:30 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

22:30 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Touhou 07 PCB - Yukari Yakumo Ultra Mode

22:30 <KooK> http://i.imgur.com/MWUIr4w.jpg

22:31 <Cepheid> The number of bullets on screen is excessive.

22:31 <Cepheid> And collision detection has to occur each frame.

22:31 <Cepheid> Derpdog, KooK.

22:31 <RazorSharpFang> That's a lot of bullets

22:32 <Cepheid> Yeah.

22:32 <RazorSharpFang> What system was that game for?

22:32 <Cepheid> PC.

22:32 <Cepheid> There were 3 earlier games for the PCEngine, but the "main series" as far as players are concerned are all PC and other consoles now.

22:32 <RazorSharpFang> That's gonna be so CPU intensive

22:32 <Cepheid> It can be managed.

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22:32 * DerpyFIM4-public is in an airplane

22:32 <Cepheid> What you want is to ensure that all the bullet data is consistently packed into a small region of RAM.

22:33 <Cepheid> You want to utilize locality as much as possible.

22:33 <RazorSharpFang> Sounds like C/C++ work

22:33 <Cepheid> Plus you can simplify collision detection by being aware of the fact that bullets fired from enemies can only hit the player.

22:33 <RazorSharpFang> The lead programmer would need to really know their stuff.

22:33 * DerpyFIM4-public is still in an airplane

22:34 <Cepheid> Go from O(n^2) to O(n) by only doing bullet->player collision detection for the enemy bullets.

22:34 <Cepheid> And vice versa for player bullets.  Becomes O(n + n), which is simplified to O(n).

22:34 <Cepheid> Well, O(n + ny) where y is the number of enemies.

22:34 <Cepheid> But it's still smaller than n^2

22:34 * DerpyFIM4-public does not have a phd in math

22:35 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah

22:35 <RazorSharpFang> DerpyFIM4-public: This is more applied logic.

22:35 <LunaticHell> CleverDerpy: A word if you please?

22:35 <Cepheid> So if you can allocate a good chunk of contigious memory ahead of time for the bullets, and then find a way to keep access sequential for all bullets on the screen, the performance will be good.

22:35 * DerpyFIM4-public understands

22:35 <CleverDerpy> oki

22:35 <Cepheid> Therefore, a stack approach.

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22:36 <Cepheid> Allocate N bullets, say, 2048 ahead of time.  Then put all the indices for those bullets in a stack.

22:36 <Cepheid> Want a bullet?  Pop an index off the stack.

22:36 <Cepheid> Ideally, the indices should be ordered from highest at the bottom to lowest at the top.

22:36 <Cepheid> When a bullet "dies", the index is pushed back onto the top of the stack.

22:36 <RazorSharpFang> Why a stack?

22:36 <Cepheid> Makes allocation easier.

22:37 <RazorSharpFang> Than an array?

22:37 <Cepheid> The stack is for indexing into the array.

22:37 <Cepheid> When a bullet is created, an index is taken off the stack.  When it dies, either by hitting something or going off screen, the index is pushed back onto the stack.

22:38 <RazorSharpFang> So the stack is used as a "I need a bullet, give plz"

22:38 * DerpyFIM4-public should come back later, people who are not geniuses are clearly not welcome here

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22:38 <Cepheid> Aye.  It just returns an index into the array.  You then initialize the object at that index and do with it as you need.

22:38 <Cepheid> ...

22:38 <Cepheid> Derpy... =.=;

22:38 <Phantasma_Eeria> Dammit Cepheid

22:39 <RazorSharpFang> Applied logic isn't really that complex a topic. it just needs a lot of prior knowledge.

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22:39 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang:  The pre-allocated array and stack-of-indices approach basically makes it easy to get the first available slot for use.

22:40 <Cepheid> And ideally, you want to keep as much contigious memory in use as possible.  Having to skip over portions of memory screws with the cache.

22:40 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, that sounds like that might happen.

22:40 <RazorSharpFang> My stomach is growling, I'll be back later.

22:40 <Cepheid> Say you access item 0 in an array.  When you do so, and there's a cache miss, a chunk of memory is pulled into the cache.  Thus, if you iterate over the array in sequence, further cache accesses will get a hit instead of a miss.

22:41 <Cepheid> Hits > Misses in terms of cache.

22:42 <Cepheid> That's why doing allocations and de-allocations all over the heap can lead to all sorts of slowdown.  Ideally you use memory allocation and usage techniques which take the cache into consideration.

22:46 <Cepheid> So I went downstairs to get some food.

22:47 <Cepheid> My dad made a smart-aleck remark.  So in response, I decided I'd aggravate his back injury.  I poked him.  "Ooh, that feels good."

22:47 <Cepheid> Apparently his back pain can be relieved by poking his spine.

22:47 <RazorSharpFang> That sounds normal

22:48 <Cepheid> I expected it to hurt, to be honest.

22:48 *** FallenSilent is now known as Fall

22:48 <Cepheid> As for his injury, torn ligaments/tendons in his back.  Idiot one day at a paper mill decided to lift up a 20-foot steel rolling pin by hand.

22:50 <Cepheid> He no longer gets treatment for it because apparently it doesn't work very well.  Turns out injecting various things into your spinal column region is painful.

22:51 <Cepheid> That said, it sounds like a good massage now and then might help.

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22:53 <Phantasma_Eeria> Watching s6e16 thorax is ace

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23:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: EXCLUSIVE: My Little Pony: Friends Forever #34—Synopsis, Artists, and Writer! [ http://tinyurl.com/hqefpfr ]

23:02 <Phantasma_Eeria> Sweet celestia, a spike song that doesn't make you cringe

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23:10 <Librarian> we fixed things up

23:10 <Librarian> friendship is magic owo

23:11 <Cepheid> That's good to hear.

23:11 <Librarian> yes, i didnt really wanted to go away

23:11 <Librarian> i would miss this palce a lot

23:12 <CleverDerpy> yeah,

23:12 <CleverDerpy> it's ok, we reached a mutal agreement

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23:13 <CleverDerpy> *mutual

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23:19 <LunaticHell> I thought the spike song drag'd out a little bit.

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23:21 * Cepheid blares Break the Chain by A-One.

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23:24 * Cepheid copies some code over from another project and repurposes it.

23:25 <LunaticHell> Wanna hear something funny about Thorax?

23:25 <LunaticHell> CleverDerpy: ready for a giggle?

23:25 * Surreal_Nightmares sits on CleverDerpy

23:26 <LunaticHell> So Thorax is now taken in by the christal empire and Cadance will make sure that he is fed, right?

23:26 <LunaticHell> So that means.

23:27 <LunaticHell> Illegal alien imigrating into a country where he is welcome with government welfare?

23:27 <LunaticHell> Where is that crystal wall when you need it?

23:28 * Cepheid pokes LunaticHell in the eye.

23:29 <LunaticHell> Ay

23:29 <Librarian> i just imagined cadance with trump hair

23:29 <Librarian> look weird

23:29 <LunaticHell> Make the Kingdom Crystal, again.

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23:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: EXCLUSIVE: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic #48 [ http://tinyurl.com/jshu75y ]

23:35 <Cepheid> LunaticHell:  Nah, "Make the kingdom shine again!"

23:36 <Cepheid> Or "glitter"

23:36 <LunaticHell> In a Cadance, please.

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23:38 <Librarian> brb, goota move

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23:39 * Cepheid picks up a class, and divides it into two.

23:40 <LunaticHell> Cepheid: Meaning: only every 4th changling will be let in.

23:40 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7-pJbIoZds

23:40 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about [GE2 & GE2RB OST] 3-11 NEO Briefing / NEO ブリーフィング

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23:58 <Cepheid> Flandre, Remilia, Ran, Yukari, Rin, and Nue.  These are my favourite Touhou characters.

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