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00:03 <Librarian> hewwo
00:05 <Princess-Luna> Aww, I missed Mccree/Winston VO streaming of overwatch
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00:10 <wobniaR> Sadface
00:11 <Not-Renny> Why is my internet so butts
00:11 <CleverDerpy> Librarian, it explicitly states you can be banned for accessing online features
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00:11 <CleverDerpy> i don't think playing it offline will do any harm
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00:12 <Librarian> umm
00:12 <Librarian> ill just wait
00:12 <CleverDerpy> probably better, yeah
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00:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #2079 [ http://tinyurl.com/zscwkjq ]
00:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Evil SFM/GMod Celestia and Luna (From the MLP Comics) Now Available [ http://tinyurl.com/zxvj5pp ]
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00:22 <RazorSharpFang> I got an exam soon...
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00:29 <Sombra> Why google? Why...
00:30 <Princess-Luna> Why google what? o.o
00:31 <Sombra> You don't know about the google, pregnant pony thing?
00:31 <Princess-Luna> Oh right
00:31 <Princess-Luna> meh
00:32 <Sombra> I recently discovered it, and had a number of lols.
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00:56 <wobniaR> I've seen worse
00:57 <wobniaR> I have a DeviantArt account
00:57 <wobniaR> !link you need me
00:57 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/563983
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00:57 <wobniaR> That's..not at all what i was going for
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00:58 <Jet_Cirrus> Hello?
00:58 <wobniaR> !link xk class end of the world scenario
00:58 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/917913?scope=scpecfcc01a8c0ade0a0aa535b2d1c3c37dfb6bcc16f
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00:58 <wobniaR> No please anything but that
00:59 <Vulpor> aww little derpies
00:59 <Jet_Cirrus> haha
01:00 <Jet_Cirrus> wobniaR long time no see
01:00 <wobniaR> Princess-Luna you Overwatching right now?
01:00 <wobniaR> Hi there Jet_Cirrus
01:00 <Jet_Cirrus> Hows it going
01:00 <wobniaR> About to Overwatch
01:01 <Jet_Cirrus> Csgo?
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01:01 <Jet_Cirrus> or actual overwatch
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01:02 <chatter> allah is doing
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01:02 <Jet_Cirrus> Anyone playing battlefield 1?
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01:10 <wobniaR> Actual Overwatch
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01:12 <wobniaR> https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/career/pc/us/wobniaR-11528 here's my profile
01:14 <Finwe> o3o
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01:14 <Finwe> Good evening, everypony.
01:14 <Thelema5|noms> Hiya, Finwe
01:14 <saltwater_coleslaw> hoi
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01:14 <Finwe> Messrs Thelema5 and saltwater_coleslaw.
01:15 * Finwe doffs his hat.
01:15 * saltwater_coleslaw is unconfortable
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01:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Negotiations / Neighilism / Royal Sisters 15 / Beginnings 17 / Star Mares S2.10 / FIC 1 / Find Yourself 194 / Monster 11 / Longest Night 2 [ http://tinyurl.com/hcuak4u ]
01:20 <saltwater_coleslaw> o
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01:22 <saltwater_coleslaw> yo
01:22 <BronyDee> yo
01:23 <BronyDee> sup
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01:26 <Finwe> Lt The_Nostalgia_Mare.
01:26 <Finwe> _o7
01:26 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Radm. Finwe.
01:26 <Finwe> That's it, enough of troll solitaire for tonight.
01:27 * The_Nostalgia_Mare heals Finwe with her Healing Broom.
01:27 * Thelema5 deals a fresh hand of troll solitaire
01:27 <Finwe> Playing druid was the key to success.
01:28 <saltwater_coleslaw> I kau Rick Harrison, a me keia no koʻu pawn Shop. I hana nei au me koʻu elemakule kanaka, a me kaʻu keiki, Big Hoss. Na mea a pau i loko o nei He moʻolelo, a me ka uku. Hookahi mea I Awareness aoia ma hope o 21 makahiki - ia oukou, aole ike i ka mea gonna hiki mai ma ka puka.
01:28 <saltwater_coleslaw> omg that took a long time
01:28 <Finwe> Hawaiian?
01:28 <saltwater_coleslaw> i did the entire pawn stars intro in hawaiian lmao
01:28 <saltwater_coleslaw> ye
01:28 <Finwe> I should go to bed.
01:29 <Finwe> Fare ye well, everypony.
01:29 <Finwe> !lullaby
01:29 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed
01:29 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby
01:29 <Finwe> !shoo
01:29 * DerpyBot sways from side to side, quietly humming "shoo be doo shoo shoo be doo"
01:29 <Thelema5> G'night!
01:30 <BronyDee> nighty
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01:38 <saltwater_coleslaw> ka iwi kaua, ua make
01:38 <saltwater_coleslaw> decipher it ^
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01:46 <saltwater_coleslaw> koʻu kittens ua make
01:46 <saltwater_coleslaw> (my kittens are dying)
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01:51 <saltwater_coleslaw> 'x'
01:52 <KooK> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWa4nW7wlcY
01:52 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
01:52 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Billy Bob Thornton Is a My Little Pony Fan
01:52 <saltwater_coleslaw> ...
01:58 <Golden> Hm
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02:00 <KooK> hm
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02:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #898 [ http://tinyurl.com/jb6j7tx ]
02:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Fluffle Puff Joins Ponycon as FluffyMixer Attends! [ http://tinyurl.com/hztjhl2 ]
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02:51 <KooK> Somebody take my test for me tomorrow, please.
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02:57 <Asoka> that a test?
02:57 <KooK> eh?
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03:00 <Asoka> i need a workshop asap
03:00 <Asoka> but yeah problem to become all the neded ressorces for this workshop...
03:04 <KooK> What kind of workshop?
03:04 <KooK> wood? metal? electrical?
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03:15 <CleverDerpy> hiya
03:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: TLC's "Cake Boss" Shows Off Pinkie Pie Cake to His 5 Million Followers [ http://tinyurl.com/j5kou5k ]
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03:24 <wobniaR> !wave
03:24 * DerpyBot waves frantically at wobniaR \6.9
03:24 * DerpyBot is pulled back behind the curtains \6.||
03:25 * Schism rolls over, and boops CleverDerpy with a small froot loop muffin with crushed raisin bran atop.
03:25 <wobniaR> That's a cool cake
03:25 * CleverDerpy noms it and laps up some milk to go with it
03:26 <CleverDerpy> they had cup cakes, then they had hot cakes, now they got cool cakes
03:26 <Schism> Hotcakes sound delicious...
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03:27 <Schism> With extra maple surple.
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03:27 <wobniaR> We got rekt hard today as predicted
03:27 <wobniaR> DPSwatch
03:28 <S0mbra> That was pretty awful, lol - but I did have a nice win just this moment
03:28 <S0mbra> pretty nice round, lotsa hackin'
03:28 <CleverDerpy> S0mbra
03:28 <S0mbra> CleverDerpy
03:28 <CleverDerpy> have you seen sunset?
03:29 <CleverDerpy> Derpy misses her...
03:29 <S0mbra> She's jus' lookin' after folks at CHS. ;3
03:29 * CleverDerpy whimpers
03:29 <CleverDerpy> Derpy really misses her
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03:30 * SunsetShimmer pounces and cuddles a CleverDerpy from the shadows. x3
03:30 * CleverDerpy purrs
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03:31 <CleverDerpy> I missed you
03:31 * CleverDerpy hugs you really tight
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03:31 * SunsetShimmer cuddles a CleverDerpy and grins.
03:31 <CleverDerpy> tomorrow at midnight sun and moon come out
03:32 <SunsetShimmer> It's one of those days.
03:32 <CleverDerpy> at the same time~
03:32 <CleverDerpy> how can both sun and moon come out at the same time?
03:32 * CleverDerpy wonders if celestia and luna have big plans
03:33 <CleverDerpy> SunsetShimmer, you should play with luna
03:33 <CleverDerpy> it would be fun to see you each play one of them
03:34 <CleverDerpy> and I can see my favorite ponies together at last~
03:34 * CleverDerpy gets all shimmer eyed
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03:39 <Thelema5> !link shimmer eyes
03:39 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/828613
03:43 * SunsetShimmer chuckles and petpets the adorbs derpyone! ^-^
03:43 <SunsetShimmer> Silly thing
03:47 <wobniaR> Can't wait till Shimmy and Flash get back together in the upcoming shorts
03:48 <wobniaR> Flash is really into them horse girls
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03:50 <wobniaR> Curious what he'd think if he saw their horse forms, they're not the same as human world horses
03:51 <wobniaR> "wow look at their anatomy their eyes are huge and their muzzles are so smol and look at how tiny they are"
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03:56 <Thelema5> Something tells me that Flash Sentry would be all about dem frogs
03:57 <wobniaR> Pls look at him, he's practically the brony of human world
03:58 <Jet_Cirrus> back
04:00 <Thelema5> Back to the front
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04:04 <Thelema5> So Brad likes ponies in socks
04:05 <Sombra> why is rarity used as an example...
04:07 <Thelema5> An example of what?
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04:11 <Thelema5> An example of frogless marshmallow hoofs
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04:14 <Sombra> Nothing!
04:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Low Effect PMV Compilation #165 [ http://tinyurl.com/hy6yf2h ]
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04:35 <SunsetShimmer> Sombra, just leave that alone
04:35 <SunsetShimmer> the google search thing is dumb.
04:40 <Thelema5> I've seen a couple of references to "the google thing" in the past 12 hours, but I have no context. Can somepony clue me in?
04:41 <Thelema5> Googling google is obviously useless
04:44 <Vulpor> I have no idea because I use Yahoo lol
04:46 <Thelema5> :p
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04:50 <Thelema5> SunsetShimmer, could your PM me a hint or something? It may be dumb, but it has evaded my radar
04:50 <SunsetShimmer> Rarity and pony pregnancy search results
04:52 <Sombra> There's nothing non PG about it, it's just goofy.
04:52 <Thelema5> Hmm. Thanks.
04:52 <Sombra> If you google "how long are ponies pregnant for" the first google answer has a picture of rarity next to it.
04:55 <Thelema5> Aah, I see. Thanks!
04:55 <Thelema5> This solves a great mystery, I appreciate the information
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05:02 <Thelema5> I go for a walk each day during my working hours; I walk to a lake on the property which is owned by my employer. The round trip takes about 20 minutes, which is nearly my whole lunchtime... but the psychological rewards are beyone anything https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOc7Vs1Q0WvQonG4trs9Plo_2Kty64ZYvKssve6
05:02 <Thelema5> *beyond
05:03 <Thelema5> This place is my calming center
05:06 <Golden> Good night everypony
05:10 * Surreal_Nightmares blankets on Golden.
05:11 <KooK_> I was going to ate 1 doughnut before I went to bed
05:11 <KooK_> Then I ate 9
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06:16 <Electron> :З
06:17 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1381 [ http://tinyurl.com/hcaymch ]
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06:21 <Starwatcher> hia electron
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06:26 <PKid> just popping in for a moment
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06:35 <PKid> tomorrow i'm going to put in extra effort at work to dig myself out of a small pit before it gets even worse, then do some training on friday to get better
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06:42 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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07:04 * Electron waves to ConfusionRift in greetings :З
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07:08 <ConfusionRift> Well, I'm now sleep depraved by other reasons aside from a destroyed sleep schedule... so yeah.
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08:09 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
08:10 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
08:10 <Finwe> o7
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08:11 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
08:11 <Finwe> A bit silent here, is it not?
08:12 <ConfusionRift> Yep.
08:12 <Ali> Its G7 Eve
08:12 <ConfusionRift> Huh?
08:12 <Finwe> Bedtiem for 'Murrica or something.
08:12 <Ali> Pokemon Sun/Moon Eve
08:12 <Finwe> Miss Ali.
08:12 * Finwe doffs his hat.
08:12 * Ali doofs a ConfusionRift onto Finwe
08:12 <ConfusionRift> It's 1:12am. So yeah, it kinda is.
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08:17 <Finwe> Ali: Pocket monsters? Would not know about them.
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08:18 <Finwe> Although I have to admit that I watched Twitch Plays Pokémon a couple of years ago.
08:19 * Finwe polymorphs Cyan_Spark into a hat and places him on Ali's head.
08:19 * Cyan_Spark is unicorn, magics back to normal
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08:52 <LisaSquarePants> heyyy :P
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08:59 <Finwe> Miss LisaSquarePants.
08:59 * Finwe doffs his hat.
08:59 <LisaSquarePants> helloww
08:59 <LisaSquarePants> how are you today?
09:04 <Finwe> Fine, thank you.
09:04 <Finwe> I'm expecting two important shipments today.
09:04 <LisaSquarePants> shipments?
09:05 <Finwe> One should be delivered by mail, and the other by DPD.
09:05 <Finwe> Yes, shipments.
09:05 <LisaSquarePants> ohh do you know what's in them or is it still a suprise?
09:05 <Finwe> Goods being shipped from the seller to the buyer.
09:05 <LisaSquarePants> ohh okay
09:06 <Finwe> One keyboard and lots of brewery equipment.
09:06 <LisaSquarePants> cool!
09:10 <LisaSquarePants> i hope you have fun with them! :)
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09:15 <Finwe> Well, I called the corier service. They're going to deliver my goods tonight between 4 and 9 p.m.
09:16 <LisaSquarePants> wow that's reeaally late!
09:16 <Finwe> And the postal service says that my keyboard is expected to be delivered prior to 6 p.m.
09:16 <Finwe> o3o
09:17 <Finwe> Hmm, and I should get ready for lunch soon.
09:17 <LisaSquarePants> wait i'm bad at digital time
09:17 <LisaSquarePants> is that in the evening or in the morning|?
09:17 <LisaSquarePants> ?
09:17 <ConfusionRift> ...
09:17 <LisaSquarePants> :P
09:17 <ConfusionRift> PM = Evening to night.
09:17 <Finwe> 18:00 in the civilised world.
09:17 <ConfusionRift> AM = Midnight to morning.
09:18 <LisaSquarePants> yeah i Always get confused with AM's and PM's
09:18 <Finwe> Post meridiem and ante meridiem.
09:18 <LisaSquarePants> ???
09:18 <LisaSquarePants> youre silly!
09:18 <LisaSquarePants> oh brb
09:18 <Finwe> They're Latin abbreviations.
09:18 <ConfusionRift> That's what the initials mean.
09:18 <Finwe> "After noon" and "before noon".
09:19 <LisaSquarePants> back it was my mom :)
09:19 <LisaSquarePants> oh nevermid
09:19 <LisaSquarePants> hmm
09:19 <LisaSquarePants> oh okay thank you :D
09:19 <LisaSquarePants> so what are you gonna do today?
09:20 <Finwe> Have lunch with my friend, process the shipments and buy some vampire teeth.
09:21 <Finwe> Apart from that, some routine stuff.
09:21 <LisaSquarePants> but didint the sip thingies come reeaally late?
09:21 <Finwe> They might arrive in the afternoon or in the evening, who knows.
09:22 <Finwe> They could only give me a time interval.
09:22 <LisaSquarePants> that is pretty late from now! :P
09:22 <Finwe> How the delivery route is arranged varies from day to day.
09:22 <Finwe> 5 to 10 hours, yes.
09:25 <Fn> am pm is kinda confusing tbh
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09:25 <Fn> 24 hour is far easier to grasp
09:25 <ConfusionRift> Whatever.
09:26 <Finwe> In everyday conversation I use the modulo 12 system without reference to either half of the day.
09:27 <ConfusionRift> And when you have spent basically your whole life using the 12-hour module, it's just natural.
09:28 <Finwe> "Let's meet at the railway station at three o'clock."
09:28 <Fn> Well, both am and pm span several day cycles and overlap at "day" and "night" bits
09:28 <Finwe> It's usually clear that it's 15:00 and not 3:00.
09:29 <Fn> Really? So the train at 3:00 is not possible?
09:29 <ConfusionRift> Besides, it's the same garbage. On one, you count over the 24 hours of the day, and the other you split them between midnight and midday.
09:29 <Fn> At three at night is a better descriptor
09:29 <Fn> At three daytime as the opposite
09:29 <Fn> Same with eight in the morning/evening
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09:31 <Fn> 24 hour is the least ambiguous and self contained
09:32 <PostNinja> what are you talking about?
09:33 <Fn> am/pm vs 24h
09:33 <LisaSquarePants> about time stuff
09:33 <LisaSquarePants> it's really boorriingg!!
09:33 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "Whatever makes you feel comfortable."
09:33 <Fn> That means it is a grown-up stuff
09:34 <Fn> It is a bit counterintuitive for me that time happened to be split in mid-day and mid-night
09:35 <Fn> Because natural cycle is night, morning, day, evening
09:36 <Finwe> Fn: There are no trains leaving at 3:00 and I'm usually asleep at that time.
09:36 <Fn> So you have half of night morning and half of day in one cycle
09:37 <ConfusionRift> 6am = morning, 12pm = day, 6pm = evening, 12am = night.
09:37 <Fn> Although I get that those were just easily measureable constants
09:38 <Fn> Well, actual daylight only meets these values twice a year, and the rest is off either way in winter or summer
09:38 * LisaSquarePants falls asleep
09:38 <ConfusionRift> After years of it, it's natural.
09:38 <Fn> You mean habitual?
09:39 <LisaSquarePants> i regret that i ever asked it! ._.
09:39 <LisaSquarePants> yaya i made a funny face!
09:39 * Finwe patpats LisaSquarePants.
09:39 <LisaSquarePants> yay
09:39 <LisaSquarePants> can we talk about something not boring now please?
09:39 <ConfusionRift> Oh, don't you worry. This is normal chat conversation.
09:40 <LisaSquarePants> if that's true i'm gonna go :P
09:40 <ConfusionRift> And I agree. To something else!
09:40 <LisaSquarePants> there are alot of things more fun to talk about
09:40 <ConfusionRift> Liiiike?
09:40 <Finwe> Ponies?
09:40 * Finwe boops ConfusionRift.
09:40 <LisaSquarePants> yess!
09:41 <Fn> Define "fun"
09:41 <LisaSquarePants> what does my computer mean with == Your message cannot contain more than 60% capital letters if it's longer than 5 characters?
09:41 <ConfusionRift> That maybe you're using too many caps within one small sentence.
09:42 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait...
09:42 <ConfusionRift> Actually, yes. That's about it.
09:42 <LisaSquarePants> i did 3 times this :D
09:45 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "Noooo idea."
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09:46 <Fn> It's 2.56 Greenwich time in Pi
09:47 <LisaSquarePants> Fn please no more!
09:47 <LisaSquarePants> my brains start to boil
09:47 <ConfusionRift> Brains? You got more than one?!
09:48 <LisaSquarePants> yep!
09:48 <Fn> Oh cmon time in radians is fun
09:49 <LisaSquarePants> do you even know what fun means? :P
09:49 <Fn> Only you start at 4Pi and then wind down to 0
09:49 <ConfusionRift> It's as fun as stepping on a lego brick. :P
09:49 <LisaSquarePants> ouch
09:49 <LisaSquarePants> Lucky i dont like lego
09:51 <Finwe> Alright, time for lunch.
09:51 <Finwe> See you later, everypony!
09:51 <LisaSquarePants> bye byeee :D
09:52 * Finwe gets his coat and bike and heads for Hagalund.
09:53 <ConfusionRift> Laters.
09:53 <ConfusionRift> Actually, I should crash about now.
09:54 <ConfusionRift> Laters everypony.
09:54 <LisaSquarePants> byee :)
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09:55 <LisaSquarePants> i gtg too
09:56 <LisaSquarePants> by
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10:06 * Schism sips this Crystal Pepsi. "Well, that's... different, I won't deny."
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10:07 <Schism> Not sure how else to phrase it. It's alright, I don't think I'm much of a fan.
10:11 <Schism> Absolutely worth a try, just... yea.
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10:29 <Electron> !link https://derpibooru.org/1297629
10:29 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about derpibooru exclusive artist:xxthehtfgodxx pinkie pie solo diapinkes (and 5 more)
10:31 <Schism> !link https://derpibooru.org/1241839
10:31 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about big ears chest fluff artist:heir-of-rick fluffy safe (and 4 more)
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11:02 <RazorSharpFang> Far out, the 4 kings in Dark Souls 1 are stupid. Because there's 5 of them.
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11:05 <PostNinja> they just figured that 4 is a more badass number?
11:05 <RazorSharpFang> I've managed to take down every boss easily so far. The 4 kings is the only one giving me a hard time.
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11:16 <PostNinja> I applaud the fact that you even have enough willpower to play a game that is intentionally as frustrating and unfair as possible
11:16 <RazorSharpFang> I've beat it multiple times lmao
11:17 <RazorSharpFang> Every time though, I struggle on this boss. This one specific boss.
11:17 <Schism> It's kind of funny, because Dark Souls is nothing if not brutally fair.
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11:18 <RazorSharpFang> Schism: To an extent. Falling through the ground and dying? Not fair.
11:18 <Schism> True, but a bug isn't part of the game's design.
11:18 <RazorSharpFang> But Dark Souls exists including its bugs.
11:18 <Schism> That it does, and that's why Nexus exists to provide mods and patches.
11:18 <RazorSharpFang> As it stands, the bugs are part of the game and the experience.
11:18 <RazorSharpFang> XBox360 ;-;
11:18 <PostNinja> with dark souls 1, half of the difficulty was because of bugs and glitches
11:19 <Schism> Ah. ;-; Not that the PC port was in any way a good one, at least to start, but at least it was moddable...
11:19 <RazorSharpFang> Worst part is that the Xbox had to `shutdown` to prevent over heating... during a boss fight.
11:20 <RazorSharpFang> I died.
11:22 <Schism> Yeesh.
11:22 <PostNinja> I don't even know who are more screwed these days when it comes to ports, pc or xbox players
11:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #678 [ http://tinyurl.com/hqwlwrw ]
11:23 <RazorSharpFang> The worst part is that there are invisible walls. INVISIBLE WALLS.
11:24 <Schism> Frankly speaking, I think PC players are a little further up the creek made of ordure, as developers assume that they can provide day-one patches, and that the playerbase and modding community will take care of a lot of the issues.
11:24 <Schism> See also: Skyrim and Fallout 3.
11:25 <Schism> (Though, admittedly, that's all on Bethesda.)
11:25 <Schism> Microsoft and Sony at least provide a level of oversight when it comes to their games.
11:28 <RazorSharpFang> I was really mad when I couldn't run away, because there happened to be an invisible wall behind me.
11:28 <RazorSharpFang> There shouldn't BE invisible walls. Those are the hallmarks of bad video games.
11:28 <PostNinja> well, dark souls 1 one is oldish at this point
11:29 <Schism> True. As game design goes, that's right up there with untelegraphed instakills.
11:29 <RazorSharpFang> *boss starts charging up a big attack* "I should run away" *is running into invisible wall that I can't see and getting nowhere* *dies*
11:30 <RazorSharpFang> Who thought invisible walls was a good idea?
11:37 <Schism> There /are/ times and places for invisible walls to be used, rarely, but they exist.
11:37 <Schism> That's not one of them.
11:38 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, it makes me sad.
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12:01 <Finwe> Messrs RazorSharpFang, Schism and PostNinja.
12:01 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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12:07 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
12:07 * Schism doffs his ramen.
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12:33 <LisaSquarePants> hi
12:34 <Finwe> Hello again, LisaSquarePants and FruitNibbler.
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12:35 <LisaSquarePants> again hi
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12:35 <LisaSquarePants> or whatever
12:35 <Finwe> Why does a Scootaloo coop only have two doors?
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12:36 <LisaSquarePants> i dont know
12:37 <Finwe> Because if it had four doors it would be a Scootaloo sedan. o3o
12:37 <LisaSquarePants> :p
12:37 * Finwe hides under Schism.
12:38 * LisaSquarePants finds a Fimwe
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12:39 <Finwe> Just that coop and coupé are not homophones.
12:39 * Electron doffs his charge pre-emptively
12:39 <Finwe> Mr Electron.
12:39 * Finwe doffs his hat.
12:39 <Electron> Mister Alicorn Finwe.
12:39 <LisaSquarePants> what's a coop and a coupe anyway?
12:40 <Finwe> A Scootaloo coop is where you keep your Scootaloos.
12:40 <Finwe> Also known as henhouse.
12:41 <Electron> Chicken jokes in 2016? Seriously?
12:41 <LisaSquarePants> okay
12:41 <Finwe> Hmm, or a henhouse might be a bit larger than a Scootaloo coop.
12:41 <Electron> They don't deserve even a slightest groan.
12:41 <Finwe> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/10/0c/36/100c36d6ef310e05071c003a2d9272e0.jpg
12:41 <Finwe> That's what we're talking about.
12:41 <LisaSquarePants> : p
12:44 <LisaSquarePants> can i ask a little bit of a weird question?
12:45 <Finwe> You're welcome to ask, the increase in weirdness of this channel will probably stay within feasible limits.
12:45 <LisaSquarePants> how do you know if someone is too sick to go to school?
12:48 <Finwe> If it's some contagious disease it's always, otherwise it depends on the physical condition of the person in question.
12:49 <LisaSquarePants> ehmm...
12:49 <LisaSquarePants> wait let me ask it again
12:49 <LisaSquarePants> how do you see if someone is too sick to go to school?
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12:53 * Finwe noms on LisaSquarePants.
12:53 * LisaSquarePants tastes like muffins
12:56 <LisaSquarePants> but do you know it?
12:56 <LisaSquarePants> brb
12:56 <Finwe> Fever is usually one of the signs that one is not fit for school.
12:57 * Electron thinks that Finwe is smart
12:58 <Finwe> o3o
12:59 <LisaSquarePants> oh okay thank you! :)
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12:59 <LisaSquarePants> how do you know again if someone has it
12:59 <LisaSquarePants> ?
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13:00 <Finwe> It's quite personal.
13:00 <LisaSquarePants> oh sorry to ask it then
13:00 <LisaSquarePants> :)
13:00 <Finwe> Some people turn a bit pale when they have fever, others might not show any outside signs.
13:01 <LisaSquarePants> i gtg
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13:01 <Finwe> Measuring the body temperature is the best way to know.
13:05 <Finwe> The ops are asleep. Let's post ponies!
13:05 <Finwe> http://www.oversodoinverso.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/poneis-1.jpg
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13:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Top 10 Fandom OC's [ http://tinyurl.com/hsrvkwx ]
13:23 <Finwe> Actually, let's post bat ponies!
13:24 <Finwe> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a7/43/2c/a7432cddfd93252d31f71c473aa2a12b.png
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13:28 <Schism> !link https://derpibooru.org/1265081 < There's a bat pony here. Though okay, I'm slightly trolling.
13:28 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about fluttershy race swap applejack flutterbat transparent background (and 12 more)
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13:29 <Schism> !link https://derpibooru.org/1233466 < Also, a batpone here. And a Derpybat.
13:29 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about duo upside down original species night sky hanging (and 23 more)
13:30 <wobniaR> Top 10 oc's horse wife and richard better be up there
13:32 <wobniaR> Oh it's a video nevermind
13:32 <Schism> Yes, Horse Wife is on there.
13:32 * Electron plays along the familiar songs
13:33 <wobniaR> Good good
13:33 * Electron feels very FUNdamental
13:33 <Electron> If you know what I mean.
13:33 <wobniaR> I'm sure they have some silly choices given thr suggestive warning
13:34 <Schism> Snowdrop and Nyx are on there as well, naturally.
13:34 * wobniaR takes Electron's fun away
13:34 <wobniaR> Snowdrop is okay, i actually never read past sins
13:34 <Schism> Oh, and of course, Fluffle Puff.
13:35 * Electron generates more FUN
13:35 <wobniaR> I know Nyx is some abomination Twilight adopted after defeating nightmare moon or something
13:35 * Finwe outnavigates Schism.
13:35 <Finwe> https://www.newscientist.com/article/2113094-worlds-best-navigators-mostly-come-from-nordic-countries/
13:35 <wobniaR> And Fluffle puff is given
13:35 <wobniaR> You have like 8 year old kids ans stuff who know fluffle puff
13:35 <wobniaR> Probs the most popular OC I'd say
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13:36 <Schism> I concur, but for some reason the creator of that vid named #1 as Blackjack.
13:36 <wobniaR> Bull
13:36 <wobniaR> Fallout equestria is not that popular
13:36 <Electron> Who is Blackjack?
13:36 <wobniaR> It's a niche fandom within a fandom
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13:37 <wobniaR> Fallout equestria spinoff main character
13:37 <Schism> Electron: Main character of Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons.
13:37 <Electron> Oh my...
13:37 <wobniaR> I disagree with that 100℅
13:37 <Electron> It's that monstrous fanfic of 1.5+ mln words?
13:38 <Electron> Jeez...
13:38 <wobniaR> Project horizons is 294842x longer than the original fix
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13:38 <Schism> There're a lot of fics set in the FoE universe. Project Horizons is without a doubt the longest.
13:38 <wobniaR> It spans multiple stories and has spinoffs of itself
13:40 <PostNinja> I'm amazed that a fic that requires a person to be both a fan of mlp and of fallout can have such a huge audience
13:41 <wobniaR> The fallout equestria fics are barely like the actual fallout games
13:41 <Electron> I guess a lot of bronies are Fallout fans as well.
13:41 <wobniaR> It mashes the two aesthetics together into a monstrous abomination
13:41 <Electron> What wobniaR said.
13:41 <wobniaR> Which is, what all crossover fics are lol
13:42 <wobniaR> But some do it better than others
13:42 <wobniaR> The Fallout hook is like futuristic america stuck in 50's culture, and pony is like fantasy steampunk
13:43 <wobniaR> There are a lot of things you can do with those themes that appeal to people
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13:46 <PostNinja> contrast is appealing I guess
13:47 <Schism> I rather liked the original FoE, to be honest.
13:48 <PostNinja> never read it, but for it to be as popular as it is, it has to be good
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13:49 <LisaSquarePants> helloww again :)
13:49 <Schism> It is, but remember that popularity is never an indication of quality. See also: Stephanie Meyer.
13:51 <Schism> Or Laurell K. Hamilton, who did it first - and better, until her writing took a steep curve right off the edge of a rather dubious cliff. I suspect editorial pressure and heavy drinking were involved.
13:52 <Finwe> Schism: The Stephanie Meyer who's actually called Stephenie Meyer?
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13:53 <SquishidySquash> ayy
13:53 <LisaSquarePants> hiii :D
13:53 <Finwe> Twilight and so on?
13:53 <Schism> Er... yes. My apologies.
13:56 <Finwe> o3o
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13:59 <LisaSquarePants> :P
14:00 * LisaSquarePants dderps
14:00 * Schism decides to cook up a lasagna for breakfast. o3o
14:01 <Finwe> Mmmm, lasagne.
14:01 <Finwe> I've never tried to cook lasagne myself.
14:03 <Schism> Well, this is a premade one, so I'm just throwing it in the oven to cook.
14:03 <LisaSquarePants> i did with my dad!
14:06 <Finwe> Schism: Lasagna is singular, it means one pasta sheet.
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14:07 <Schism> Ah, lasagne, then. >.>
14:07 <Schism> Though it could refer to the casserole itself, e.g. one slab of lasagna.
14:08 <Finwe> The dish is called lasagne because there are multiple layers of pasta sheets alternating with layers of ragù, bechamel and Parmigiano.
14:08 <wobniaR> Mmm lasagna
14:08 <Schism> Ricotta and ground beef, here, too.
14:08 <Schism> Well, ground beef and pork.
14:09 <LisaSquarePants> now i wanna eat lasanga!
14:09 <wobniaR> Same
14:09 <Finwe> Hmm, in the traditional recipe even chopped hard-boiled eggs are used.
14:09 <Schism> Changelings who eat different emotions... some eat curiosity, some love, some fear, some hunger... >.>
14:09 <LisaSquarePants> oh really?
14:10 <LisaSquarePants> i never knew that :P
14:10 <Schism> Not canonically, but that's my headcanon.
14:11 <LisaSquarePants> a headcanon?
14:11 <LisaSquarePants> that sounds dangerous
14:11 <Finwe> Headcannon. o3o
14:12 <LisaSquarePants> isint this a cannon? http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/scribblenauts/images/b/bf/Cannon_SU.png/revision/latest?cb=20130510190738
14:13 <Schism> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/headcanon
14:13 <Finwe> Eeeyup, it's a cannon.
14:13 <Schism> See also: http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b25/presidentshinra/funny-puns-i-had-to-google-headcanon-for-this-to-make-sense_zps5d7782a0.png
14:15 <Finwe> Canonical things are those accepted by the Catholic Church.
14:15 <Finwe> When someone is made a saint he's canonised by the Pope, for example.
14:16 <Finwe> A collection of canonical things is a canon.
14:16 <LisaSquarePants> oh no not this again!
14:16 <Schism> More generally, in fiction, canonical things are those which fit within the rules of the universe as defined by the author.
14:16 <Finwe> The use of the word has just spread to other contexts.
14:16 <LisaSquarePants> nevermind this is gonna get comfusing!
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14:16 <Schism> For example, in The Lord of the Rings, a canonical fact is that there are Nine Walkers, to fit the mold of the opposition against the nine formerly human kings.
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14:17 <Finwe> Nazgûl D:
14:17 <LisaSquarePants> see my computer cant even take it!
14:18 <LisaSquarePants> but i gtg anyway
14:18 <LisaSquarePants> byeee everybody!!
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14:18 <Finwe> Fare thee well.
14:19 <wobniaR> Ah yes the Nazgûl and Witch King and stuff
14:19 <Schism> Ignoring established canon solely for the sake of plot contrivances is a sign of bad fanfic, and something the PPC frowns greatly upon.
14:19 <wobniaR> Suillad randir. Suillad mellon, shine oh elbereth star-kindler
14:20 <wobniaR> See i know LOTR stuff
14:20 <Finwe> Sí man i yulma nin enquantuva?
14:20 <Schism> Princess Celestia confirmed for Varda. *sagenod*
14:21 <wobniaR> No hablo espabol Finwe
14:22 <Finwe> wobniaR: Pffft, it's a row from what Galadriel recites when the Fellowship rests at Laurelindórenan.
14:23 <Finwe> Or Lothlórien, as it was know in later, less illuminated times.
14:23 <Schism> I should reread the Silmarillion sometime.
14:24 <Schism> It's quite dense, however.
14:24 <wobniaR> Funny thing is, despite my intricate knowledge of the universe I've only read parts of the silmarillion and the children of hurin
14:24 <Finwe> Namárië, or Farewell, it was called.
14:24 <wobniaR> I've only watched the movies for lord of the rings and the hobbit
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14:25 <wobniaR> Some people would consider this heresy I'm sure
14:25 <Finwe> Ai! laurië lantar lassi súrinen, yeni únótime ve rámar aldaron &c.
14:25 <PostNinja> when I read it as a kid, silmarillion felt like a way more interesting version of the bibble
14:25 <wobniaR> Pretty much what it is anyway
14:25 <wobniaR> It's a mixmash of random lore
14:26 <wobniaR> They tried to make sense of it and put it in some sort of chronological order then released it
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14:27 <Schism> It is a whole lot of apocrypha. Which isn't bad! It's basically notes about a whole universe.
14:29 <wobniaR> Yeah i never said it was bad, it's just not a stand-alone story like the other books
14:30 <wobniaR> If you're already a fan it's great, if not it's confusing
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14:32 <PostNinja> your irc client doesn't like you
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14:35 <wobniaR> No it does not
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15:00 * Schism finishes baking the lasagna, letting it sit for a few minutes.
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15:02 <Schism> Well, lasagne, if you insist...
15:02 * Schism boops Princess-Luna with a slice of the lasagne casserole.
15:02 <Princess-Luna> I do like lasagne
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15:04 <Schism> Everyone likes lasagne. *sagenod*
15:04 <wobniaR> But do you like lasagna on your face?
15:04 <wobniaR> Big differencd
15:04 <Finwe> o3o
15:04 <Finwe> wobniaR: Lasagne is best injoyed internally.
15:05 <wobniaR> I agree but booping someone with lasagna is a quick way to get tomato sauce and cheese all over their facw
15:06 <Schism> Well, it's on a plate...
15:06 <Finwe> Is facw some kind of an euphemism for a more vulgar expression?
15:06 <wobniaR> It's a result of poor screen keyboard typing
15:06 <wobniaR> Unfortunately it would take me a significant amount of time to correct every spelling mistake i make as a result of a touch screen keyboard
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15:10 <wobniaR> Either way, plastic, paper, glass, ceramic or other plate?
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15:11 <Finwe> You hear the wailing of Cwn Annwn.
15:12 <wobniaR> Lovely, i do love a good wail
15:12 <wobniaR> Slightly above harsh noise in my music playlist
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15:13 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony
15:15 <wobniaR> Hi there Thelema5
15:16 <wobniaR> Happy day before friday
15:16 <Finwe> Mr Thelema5.
15:16 <Schism> Oh, it's stoneware.
15:16 <Finwe> !isit
15:16 <Finwe> Hmmm...
15:16 <Finwe> Is it Friday? No.
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15:22 * Finwe hats on Night_Blitz.
15:32 <Finwe> http://time.com/4574226/man-dissolved-yellowstone-park/
15:32 <Finwe> Man dissolved Yellowstone Park?
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15:32 <Finwe> Reading the article, one notices that this was actually not the case.
15:39 <Finwe> Hmm, some tapping needs to be done.
15:40 * Finwe gathers his things and gets ready for a short hike to the brewery.
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15:45 <FruitNibbler> Finwe, make sure you won't dissolve too much beer
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15:48 <Lumindia_> Guess who has Overwatch now
15:48 <Lumindia_> o 3o
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15:51 <wobniaR> Yay welcome to the fun Lumindia_
15:51 <wobniaR> You can join Princess-Luna and i in getting rekt
15:52 <Princess-Luna> Soldier 76 has become beast also
15:53 <wobniaR> Yep the damage increase on his rifle is great
15:53 <Princess-Luna> I mean sure, he's cheap but he melts people easily now
15:53 <Princess-Luna> it's kinda great
15:54 <wobniaR> Not as easy as others but he's better
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15:55 <wobniaR> It's gonna take some getting used to the new meta
15:56 <Princess-Luna> x3
15:56 <wobniaR> Aka 5 DPS 1 support
15:57 <Lumindia_> '-'
15:57 <Lumindia_> Just remember
15:57 <Lumindia_> Heroes never die!
15:57 * Lumindia_ is a graet Mercy
15:57 <wobniaR> Servants*
15:57 <Lumindia_> I like Mercy in how straightforward as a healer she is
15:57 <Lumindia_> point at an ally, click button, heal
15:57 <PostNinja> it's high noon somewhere in the world, once a hour
15:57 <wobniaR> She's the classic tether healer
15:58 <wobniaR> Just like medic from tf2
15:58 <Lumindia_> She also has fairly good mobility
15:58 <wobniaR> Only if your allies are around
15:58 <Surreal_Nightmares> Yis
15:58 <Lumindia_> well yeah...
15:58 <wobniaR> I get left to die alone many times
15:58 * wobniaR glares at Princess-Luna
15:58 <Lumindia_> plz
15:58 * Princess-Luna whistles innocently
15:58 <Surreal_Nightmares> I wanna play with you guys...
15:58 <Surreal_Nightmares> D:
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15:59 * Filly_Nightmares floofles.
16:00 * Lumindia_ headpats Surry
16:00 * Filly_Nightmares noms Lumindia_
16:02 * Lumindia_ squeaks
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16:08 <Finwe> Messrs KooK_ and Lumindia_, Miss Filly_Nightmares.
16:08 * Finwe doffs his hat.
16:09 * Filly_Nightmares is Finwe's hat.
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16:09 <Finwe> o3o
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16:10 <FruitNibbler> Nuuuu
16:10 <FruitNibbler> I has stomach flu
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16:15 <KooK_> Finnish
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16:19 <Finwe> Lt Nossy|School.
16:19 * Finwe doffs his hat.
16:19 <Nossy|School> Radm. Finwe (salutes)
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16:37 <Schism> <Pinkie Pie> ...Twilight, was this the kitchen you had all throughout school? <Twilight> Yes...? Is there something wrong? <Pinkie Pie> Well... I can see you're /alive/, but I'm not sure /how/...
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16:42 <wobniaR> Rude
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16:55 <Electron> Right in the feels, Pinkie.
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16:56 <FruitNibbler> !link https://youtu.be/q20yauJateE?t=333
16:56 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
16:56 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 5 Horrifying Shark Encounters Caught On GoPro
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17:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: ShinZm - A Contrived Sporadic (SDreamExplorerS Cover) [Metal] [ http://tinyurl.com/zzukfca ]
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17:28 <wobniaR> Got another meeting at 2:30 this is not gonna be fun
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17:43 <Librarian> hoi
17:43 <Librarian> morning
17:43 <wobniaR> 🍙
17:43 <Librarian> tis an onigiri yes
17:44 <Bastion_1800> mornin
17:46 <wobniaR> No it's a jelly donut
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17:55 * Princess-Luna gives wobniaR some [Hamburgers!]
18:00 <Lumindia_> plz
18:00 * Lumindia_ boops Luna repeatedly
18:00 <Lumindia_> atatatatatatata
18:01 * wobniaR eats his hamburgers
18:01 <wobniaR> Ah i love living in America Los Angeles
18:01 <wobniaR> Just kidding, East coast best coast
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18:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Story: First Pony Plural [ http://tinyurl.com/hf52txn ]
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18:25 <Thelema5> I've never been to any other coast than the east
18:26 <Thelema5> I hear that the weather is more mild on the west coast
18:27 <wobniaR> It always rains in Seattle
18:27 <wobniaR> California is desert
18:28 <wobniaR> Mild is a nice way to put it
18:29 <Thelema5> Maine is a frozen wasteland, Florida is a steaming jungle. It's relative
18:30 <Thelema5> Of all the places I hope to never visit, Florida seems like the worst
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18:34 <Finwe> o3o
18:34 * Finwe noms on his new 30-litre fermenters.
18:34 <Thelema5> How unsanitary
18:35 <Thelema5> :p
18:35 * Finwe boops the Thelema5.
18:36 * Thelema5 scrunchynoses
18:36 <Finwe> It was of course allegorical nomming.
18:37 * Thelema5 admires Finwe's shiny fermenters
18:37 <Thelema5> What are you going to brew in them first?
18:38 <Finwe> Breakfast Stout, I believe.
18:38 <Thelema5> o3o
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18:39 <Finwe> Mr Magnus.
18:39 * Finwe doffs his hat.
18:40 <Magnus> Finnish
18:40 <Finwe> For some reason, no transparent fermenters are in the market anymore.
18:40 <Finwe> So we shall try and manage with translucent instead.
18:40 * Lumindia_ boops wob
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18:42 <wobniaR> Florida has alligators, which they seem to love
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18:52 <Finwe> wobniaR: Who would not love having alligators?
18:53 <Finwe> The last time I had alligator was many years ago.
18:53 <Finwe> In a restaurant that happened to serve alligator.
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18:53 <Finwe> Tasted like the proverbial chicken.
18:53 <Librarian> tastes like chicken
18:54 <Finwe> Mr Librarian.
18:54 <Librarian> mista finwe
18:54 * Finwe doffs his hat.
18:54 <wobniaR> Poor alligators
18:54 * Librarian doofs an mimikyu
18:54 <LisaSquarePants> hello
18:54 <Finwe> wobniaR: Of course they are poor. Alligators have little use for wealth.
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19:05 <Bastion_1800> sup
19:06 <Finwe> Hmm, supping is not completely out of question.
19:06 <Finwe> But what should I have for supper in that case?
19:13 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Recall the Time 194 / Monster 12 / Star Mares S2.11 / STARS 4:62 / Brave and the Bold / Doomsday [ http://tinyurl.com/gqe6syx ]
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19:14 <wobniaR> Burgers
19:15 <LisaSquarePants> patties?
19:15 <LisaSquarePants> oh whatever
19:16 <wobniaR> Yes burger patties
19:16 <LisaSquarePants> yum
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19:21 <LisaSquarePants> hi Wobniar
19:22 * wobniaR waves
19:22 <Lumindia_> I wonder how overwatch determines what gets play of the game
19:23 * LisaSquarePants sorta waves back
19:23 <wobniaR> Different actions are given a weight value
19:23 * Lumindia_ also boops Lisa
19:23 <Lumindia_> Boop!
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19:23 <wobniaR> If you perform.a number of actions within a certain time period and whatever scores highest gets play of the game
19:23 * Finwe boops LisaSquarePants with a freshly appeared Cepheid.
19:23 <Lumindia_> hmm
19:23 <LisaSquarePants> whatever
19:24 <Lumindia_> so I guess that says something about your team if you get play of the game as Mercy for ressing
19:24 <wobniaR> Mercy's res was given more value recently, then reduced
19:24 * Cepheid is made as a tool?
19:24 <wobniaR> 3-5 man resses have a pretty decent chance of getting play of the game
19:25 <Lumindia_> yeah, that's usually what I try and save my resses
19:25 <Lumindia_> either that or bringing back a tank character during a push
19:26 <wobniaR> The res is more to use as you see fit, it builds fast
19:27 <Lumindia_> personally I try and save if for when it'll actually make a difference
19:27 <Lumindia_> not just to revive a wayward teammate that did something stupid and died
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19:38 * LisaSquarePants is done being grumpy now
19:38 * Lumindia_ boops Lisa's nose
19:39 * LisaSquarePants boops Lumindia's nose
19:39 <LisaSquarePants> how are you?
19:39 <Lumindia_> good
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19:39 <LisaSquarePants> yay!
19:40 <Finwe> Yay?
19:40 <DARK> hello
19:40 <Finwe> Hello, Mr DARK.
19:40 * Finwe doffs his hat.
19:41 <LisaSquarePants> heyy :)
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19:43 <LisaSquarePants> i kinda need help
19:43 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story Updates - November 17 [ http://tinyurl.com/j9kjewa ]
19:43 <LisaSquarePants> my mom thinks i'm better enough to go to school tomorrow!
19:43 <LisaSquarePants> how do you look not better enough?
19:44 <LisaSquarePants> in a pretty short time from now
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19:48 <Bastion_1800> !link hardcore
19:48 <DerpyBot> http://derpibooru.org/618901
19:49 <LisaSquarePants> DerpyBot that didint work sorry :)
19:50 <LisaSquarePants> but you dont know how to look less better?
19:50 <LisaSquarePants> i gtg go to bed now so please
19:51 <LisaSquarePants> if you dont know that would be okay too
19:53 <LisaSquarePants> no one?
19:53 <LisaSquarePants> CleverDerpy?
19:53 <LisaSquarePants> Librarian?
19:53 <LisaSquarePants> yay youre here!
19:54 <LisaSquarePants> youre really smart do you know how too look less better?
19:57 <Bubs> first things first: *are* you better?
19:57 <Bubs> or do you just don't want tot go to school?
19:58 <LisaSquarePants> ehmm you wouldent tell anywone right?
19:58 <LisaSquarePants> anyone
19:58 <Bubs> who could I tell? only the people in here.
19:58 <LisaSquarePants> good point :P
19:58 <Bubs> but asking that question is already answering mine ;)
19:59 <LisaSquarePants> it could also be the first one
19:59 <LisaSquarePants> you can never be sure...
19:59 <Bubs> both boil down to the same point: you're mother would be correct in here assessment
20:00 <LisaSquarePants> but how do i make her think she's wrong?
20:00 <Bubs> you don't
20:00 <LisaSquarePants> hey!
20:00 <LisaSquarePants> that is not the awnser i wanted!
20:00 <Bubs> though luck. lying to your parents is bad
20:01 <LisaSquarePants> well that stupid school is even badder!
20:01 <Bubs> in 10 years time you'll think different about that
20:01 <LisaSquarePants> how do you know?
20:02 <LisaSquarePants> but Librarian do you know anything better?
20:02 <Bubs> in the western world there aren't many kids who'll want to go to school. parents know this: they have been kids as well ;)
20:03 <wobniaR> School sucks
20:03 <wobniaR> Stay in school kids
20:03 <LisaSquarePants> Bubs please isint there anything i can do?
20:03 <LisaSquarePants> Librarian help!
20:03 <Bubs> yes. go to school tomorrow
20:03 <Bubs> I'm sorry it's not the answer you're looking for, but that is reality
20:03 <LisaSquarePants> that isint what i mean!
20:04 <wobniaR> Oh look less better i see what you mean now
20:04 <LisaSquarePants> silly
20:04 <wobniaR> Lisa, school is rough and it sucks and many times i felt sick just thinking about going back
20:05 <LisaSquarePants> but come on!
20:05 <wobniaR> We don't know how tough it is exactly for you now or what situation you are in
20:05 <LisaSquarePants> would not sleeping tonight help?
20:05 <LisaSquarePants> please tell me it does!
20:05 <wobniaR> You're better off getting the rest and going to school
20:06 <wobniaR> Cause your parents will make you go regardlwss
20:06 <LisaSquarePants> youre mean!
20:06 <Bubs> you'll just feel miserable tomorrow and your mother will still force you to go to school
20:06 <LisaSquarePants> and so are they
20:06 <wobniaR> Pls I'm being realistic, i was your age too not too long ago
20:06 <Bubs> no, actually they're very caring.
20:06 <wobniaR> My parents forced me to go even when i pulled all nighters
20:07 <LisaSquarePants> >:(
20:08 <wobniaR> I understand how you're feeling
20:08 <Bubs> trust me. your school-years are probably the best years of your life. they'll certainly be the most care-free
20:08 <wobniaR> Lies Bubs
20:08 <wobniaR> My school years were not the best
20:09 <wobniaR> Less cares yes but they ain't the best
20:09 <LisaSquarePants> well you didint have that mean stupid ugly boy in youre class!!!!
20:09 <LisaSquarePants> so you dont even know!
20:09 <LisaSquarePants> i give up
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20:12 <Cepheid> So, checking out The Darkening of Tristram in Diablo 3. I'm sorry, but they have to keep this implemented. They can't just let it be a timed event.
20:12 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: Episode Battle Season 6 Part 1! [ http://tinyurl.com/gqwo7c6 ]
20:13 <wobniaR> People did not like Flurry heart or the initial 2 parter much
20:13 <wobniaR> Forced alicorn babby yay
20:13 <wobniaR> Break all the lores
20:14 <LisaSquarePants> i got to sleep now
20:14 <LisaSquarePants> i hope you all turn into a big smelly pile of poop!
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20:14 <Cepheid> ...
20:15 <wobniaR> Haha rekt
20:15 <wobniaR> Princess-Luna will be the smelliest that's for sure
20:16 <wobniaR> I will smell like roses in comparison
20:16 <Cepheid> Oh gods it's the butcher! *Murders*
20:17 <Lumindia_> Luna smells like ink
20:17 <Lumindia_> because her butt is inky
20:19 <Sour_Sweet> You silly filly
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20:29 <wobniaR> Heh Sour_Sweet ncmares posted that Luna pic with the whole crushing thing edited out
20:29 <Sour_Sweet> Nice
20:33 <Sour_Sweet> It's hard to follow NCMares. Too many accounts on too many platforms.
20:33 <wobniaR> Not really, tumblr is where he publishes it the fastest probz
20:34 <Sour_Sweet> Yeah and he has like 3 accounts there alone
20:34 <wobniaR> Stop using derpibooru to follow artists
20:34 <Sour_Sweet> Plus exclusives on /mlp/
20:34 <wobniaR> Oh right you like all his "other" art
20:35 <wobniaR> Well you have fun with that
20:35 <Sour_Sweet> "Other" Shhhh. Just because I like my ponies cuddle sized :P
20:35 <wobniaR> Sureee
20:36 <Sour_Sweet> (It really is only about his artstyle though)
20:36 <wobniaR> See you at the next artist alley after dark then
20:37 <wobniaR> It's more than that haha
20:37 <wobniaR> But sure whatevs you say
20:38 <Sour_Sweet> See I didn't even find that edited moon horse on first glance.
20:38 <wobniaR> https://twitter.com/YoHomeboyNC/status/799348332006998016
20:38 <Sour_Sweet> Oh Twitter
20:38 <Sour_Sweet> Yet another account :P
20:38 <wobniaR> Cause he probably posted the original elsewhere and curated it for a different site
20:39 <wobniaR> Dude expands his audience but it sounds like his core is /mlp/
20:40 <wobniaR> I'd like to say i can't wait till 4chan dies but it's just a site and people will find another
20:40 <Sour_Sweet> This is why I user derpibooru btw. usually all the stuff is posted there eventually
20:40 <Sour_Sweet> use*
20:41 <Sour_Sweet> 4chan will last for quite some time and the people using it won't just vanish once it's gone
20:41 <wobniaR> I have conflicted feelings about derpibooru, it's a good source of memes but they got some bad rap with artists
20:41 <Cepheid> 4chan is like a bacterial infection. It won't go away easily, and may even become resistant to attempts to get rid of it.
20:42 <wobniaR> They're out of money to fund it
20:42 <Sour_Sweet> I'm glad a few of the very questionable things are no longer as present on 4chan
20:42 <Sour_Sweet> It used to be a lot worse than it is now
20:43 <wobniaR> Cause people left and moved on to other fads
20:43 <wobniaR> And some of the worst stuff moved to onion sites
20:43 <Divide|Tech> Guh. Tonight's gonna suck: there's a Leafs game tonight.
20:43 <wobniaR> Onion as in Tor
20:44 <Sour_Sweet> People overestimate the popularity of hidden services outside of drugs though
20:44 <wobniaR> They do i can confirm
20:45 <wobniaR> The "dark web" is full of as many stupid posts as the regular web
20:45 <Sour_Sweet> Even more
20:45 <Sour_Sweet> There are interesting forums dedicated to conspiracy theories
20:45 <wobniaR> In fact we do monitor popular dark web sites for mentions of certain things
20:45 <wobniaR> Most of it is junk lol
20:46 <Sour_Sweet> I still don't know what you do for a living.
20:46 <wobniaR> Cyber security analyst
20:46 <wobniaR> White hat hacker? I don't know what terminology you want me to use here
20:47 <wobniaR> I work for an organization rather than as a consultant
20:47 <Sour_Sweet> Depends. If you do actual hacking then yes.
20:47 <Divide|Tech> "Tor (n): A protocol for the internet which includes features such as onion routing, garlic salting, and celery seeding."
20:47 <wobniaR> Yeah i do pen testing
20:47 <wobniaR> Mostly on web apps
20:48 <Sour_Sweet> Heh
20:48 <wobniaR> Occasionally i get to test thick clients or mobile apps
20:50 <Sour_Sweet> I once said my special talent is breaking stuff. I'm really good at that. ;-)
20:51 <wobniaR> I know you talk a lot about web dev work
20:51 <Sour_Sweet> Yeah
20:51 <wobniaR> Whether you're a consultant, an individual or work for a company i don't know
20:51 <Sour_Sweet> I do web application security for the lulz
20:51 <wobniaR> Heh black hat then?
20:52 <Sour_Sweet> I started writing web apps at the age of like 12 or something. Security just got in my focus in the past couple of years
20:52 <wobniaR> Do you make any monies off of it or is it all the lulz?
20:52 <Sour_Sweet> I'm mostly a white hat. I report stuff and sometimes make a small profit of that. However black hat stuff sometimes is more fun
20:53 <wobniaR> Then you'd be labelled a grey hat, it's weird how they label these things
20:53 <Sour_Sweet> That troll we had here found a pink pone on his index.php. Have no idea how it got there 6_9
20:53 <wobniaR> Outdated WordPress most likely
20:54 <Sour_Sweet> Heh no. Insecure web server installation
20:54 <wobniaR> Ah yes those are fun too
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20:54 <wobniaR> Upload a nice reverse shell, profit
20:54 <Sour_Sweet> I XSSed it first I think like twice until he fixed that. After that I digged a little deeper and ended up with an "admin" shell (Mac)
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20:55 <wobniaR> If you're gonna put time into that stuff you might as well get paid for it
20:55 <Sour_Sweet> What I never do though is anything that'd hurt an end user
20:56 <wobniaR> No but what you're doing still isn't legal
20:56 <Sour_Sweet> The whole lulzsec stuff is just silly
20:56 <wobniaR> I have to get permission before i do the silly stuffs
20:56 <wobniaR> And limit the scope of my tests, communicate it to the vendor etc
20:57 <Sour_Sweet> It's not, but the damage is low. Can be fixed in little time and I only do something like that once someone seriously annoys me.
20:58 <wobniaR> We just finished testing a system over here, stored and reflected XSS everywhere, CSRF on everything, blind sql injection
21:00 <wobniaR> https://blog.netspi.com/advisory-xxe-injection-oracle-database-cve-2014-6577/ it took advantage of this, cause unpatched Oracle installation
21:00 <Divide|Tech> Niiiiice.
21:00 <Divide|Tech> Who runs an unpatched Oracle install? Seriously?
21:00 <wobniaR> We only found this one by pure luck, the application does not return anything that would hint at sql injection
21:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff #2080 [ http://tinyurl.com/hqnoero ]
21:01 <wobniaR> You actually have to enter in some xml code and sql statements into a function in the application, and if you point it at an ip it'll force the db server to make a http request
21:02 <wobniaR> To a server of your choosing, and the resource it will try to get will be according to what yo pull via SQL
21:03 <Sour_Sweet> The problem is that when you only go through the legal channels nobody is going to respect your work more often than not. As I said some time ago I've worked for the 2nd largest German financial service provider (Outside of IT). Found a SQL injection vulnerability that'd have allowed me to bypass almost all security checks including limits on what I could do and the 4 eye principle.
21:03 <Sour_Sweet> Could have authorized payments up to a few million if not billions of euros. Reported it. Got a nice message back forcing me to stay silent and threatening to get lawyers involved from my own bucking employer.
21:03 <Sour_Sweet> The SQLi vulnerability in a smaller CMS got fixed after my report, but was never credited to me.
21:04 <wobniaR> Yeah which is why working for a company is great, we have lawyers too if the vendor is a jerk
21:04 <wobniaR> We've been threatened with legal action for using qualys sslscan on a site
21:04 <Sour_Sweet> Retailers I contacted about flaws in their systems were a little better. I got a couple of coupons of those worth a few hundred bucks
21:05 <Bastion_1800> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwj9YPmrLsQ&list=RDUMI1g8dovQ0&index=8
21:05 <wobniaR> Freelance work like that is riskier cause they'll strongarm you like that
21:05 <Sour_Sweet> I'd really like to do more closer to the actual hardware, but I lack the required bare metal skills still
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21:06 <wobniaR> Yeah i don't get to work with the hardware, hell i barely get access to some systems sometimes
21:06 <Sour_Sweet> What I mean by that is buffer overflows and similar
21:08 <wobniaR> Buffer overflows are a software vulnerability though
21:08 <Sour_Sweet> What I do is basically logic flaws. Devs forgetting or messing up user input validation, ...
21:08 <wobniaR> That's no different from what i do
21:09 <wobniaR> I spend a lot of time using burpsuite, have a pro license for work
21:09 <wobniaR> The free version is good enough but the scanner and spider tool are occasionally useful
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21:12 <Sour_Sweet> I mostly work with the extensive suite of web dev tools FF provides (which is the reason I still use it despite FF being broken as hell) plus shell utils (curl, openssl, ...), a packet sniffer and when I do closed apps a MITM proxy which I believe is what burp does
21:13 <Sour_Sweet> I think I've actually worked with burp suite some time ago, but I don't remember much.
21:13 <wobniaR> Yep burpsuite is a proxy, most of the web app testing i do with that
21:13 <wobniaR> I use a VM with kali linux as it comes pre installed with tools like openssl and curl
21:14 <wobniaR> And many other things, i think the only dev tool i use for firefox is firebug
21:14 <Sour_Sweet> My primary server host doesn't let me do port scans which is really annoying
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21:15 <Sour_Sweet> I do have a VPS in the U.S. for that purpose (and as a secondary nameserver). The rest of the traffic I don't need just goes to Tor.
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21:16 <AppleDash> Sour_Sweet: What's broken about firefox?
21:16 <Sour_Sweet> What isn't?
21:16 <AppleDash> Everything
21:16 <Sour_Sweet> The thing is crashing more often than any other piece of software I have
21:16 <AppleDash> It launches successfully, navigates to web pages, loads the extensions I want it to
21:16 <AppleDash> Seems fine to me
21:17 <AppleDash> I have had it crash exactly 0 times, and I use Aurora.
21:17 <Sour_Sweet> Search in the dev tools is broken for quite some time,
21:17 <Magnus> I have a sizeable math test today and I'm in the middle of being super dyslexic
21:17 <Magnus> Super screwed
21:17 <AppleDash> Search for what?
21:17 <Sour_Sweet> They recently changed the APIs for the password manger, so my addon for that broke too
21:17 <Sour_Sweet> Zoom on mobile is broken since forever
21:18 <AppleDash> I have just tested, search in dev tools works fine
21:18 <AppleDash> I zoom on mobile every day so no complaints there
21:18 <AppleDash> This sounds like a "your devices" issue :P
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21:18 <Sour_Sweet> Hey: They fixed that bug that made FF launch without bookmarks
21:18 <Sour_Sweet> That one was only broken for like 2 years
21:18 <Sour_Sweet> Good job mozilla.
21:19 <AppleDash> Definitely blaming you here, I've never had such a bug
21:19 <Sour_Sweet> It's not unique to me
21:19 <Sour_Sweet> Nor is the opinion about FF's state
21:20 <Sour_Sweet> I have 2 particular websites I know of I cannot open in FF right now because it will freeze.
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21:21 <Sour_Sweet> Oh and e10s works so great: When your tabs freeze and your UI remains usable you need to kill the process. Like restoring your session? Nope. Since the UI didn't freeze it can't restore your session
21:22 <Sour_Sweet> Disabling e10s forcefully gets rid off most crashes as a bonus.
21:23 <AppleDash> Don't use an alpha feature and expect it to work well :P
21:24 <Sour_Sweet> Like HTML5 video? I hope you don't use Windows' screen magnifier (Yes people with low vision are a thing) because good luck finding the fullscreen button without it.
21:25 <Sour_Sweet> Closing the Windows' magnifier closes HTML5 fullscreen video because Mozilla thought it would be a good idea to bind to ESC regardless of the modifiers pressed
21:25 <Sour_Sweet> Reported as a bug since quite some time. Will probably never see a fix because only a small number of people (with low vision) are affected.
21:27 <Sour_Sweet> Oh if you have a low vison don't use FF for mobile because zoom there is so utterly broken you can't even click links on most websites when zoomed in(Not even mentioning their messed up layout).
21:29 <Sour_Sweet> In a nutshell: Chrome does _everything_ better except for customizability and privacy.
21:29 <wobniaR> My adblocker usually doesn't work for firefox lol
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21:44 <Sour_Sweet> It's a sad development. Firefox used to be my favorite browser. I don't even remember when things started to get worse instead of better with almost every version, but it can't be much after they started with the rapid release nonsense.
21:46 <saltwater_coleslaw> yo
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21:50 <Goatroth> I'll take the privacy of Firefox over the "everything" of Chrome.
21:51 <saltwater_coleslaw> ...
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21:51 <hawthornbunny> I'm not finding Firefox to be too bad at the moment. I'm having to use it because my Manjaro isn't playing well with Chromium
21:51 * Princess-Luna uses chrome, has always done...life goes on.
21:51 * saltwater_coleslaw can't use firefox
21:52 * saltwater_coleslaw hates school computers
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21:53 <Sour_Sweet> As a non professional user who doesn't require a few very specific features you probably won't notice what I'm talking about
21:54 <Sour_Sweet> Non the less it's concerning: They're changing what keeps a good number of people using Firefox: The AddOns
21:55 <Sour_Sweet> The APIs will change soon(tm) and dedicated themes will no longer be supported. There is a good chance that this is going to be the nail in the coffin for me.
21:56 <Goatroth> What I don't like about Chrome is the fact that their addon rules are too strict, and some addons won't work fully as a result.
21:57 <Goatroth> For example you're not allowed to upload an addon that rips youtube videos, but it's fine with Firefox.
21:57 <Sour_Sweet> Then I'm glad to inform that this is the direction Mozilla is heading.
21:58 <Goatroth> You're "glad"?
21:58 <Goatroth> Who pissed in your cheerios?
21:58 <Sour_Sweet> Singed addons are required now outside of Dev/Alpha/Beta editions of FF and the API is going to change to a more restricted version very similar to Chrome's.
21:59 <Goatroth> That says nothing about Mozilla enforcing the "this can't download from youtube" rule that Google does.
21:59 <Sour_Sweet> The only thing they don't do is police the AddOns Store - yet.
21:59 <Goatroth> It's not an API issue, it's simply something Google disallows.
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22:01 <Sour_Sweet> Yeah and if someone would put lawyers behind it Mozilla would probably be required to remove the AddOns from their store.
22:01 <Goatroth> Therefore, I am VERY glad to rain on your schadenfreude parade.
22:01 <Goatroth> Lol, k.
22:01 <Sour_Sweet> Didn't happen yet but probably will quite soon considering the many court sessions we have involving adblockers.
22:02 <Goatroth> My adblocker isn't limited in any way.
22:02 <Sour_Sweet> That's not what I said, is it?
22:02 <Goatroth> You implied it.
22:03 <Sour_Sweet> Publishers are trying to ban adblockers here and in many other countries
22:03 <Goatroth> Won't happen.
22:03 <Sour_Sweet> If they succeed - and that will likely happen in some country - Mozilla will be forced to remove the addons effectively geo blocking users
22:04 <Goatroth> Even if by some miracle it does, enough people will be outraged that there will be ways around it.
22:04 <Sour_Sweet> And since signatures are required alternative sources for addons might not be available depending on how Mozilla has to implement that feature.
22:04 <Sour_Sweet> Sure I'll always find a way around that, but the average user won't and that's the point
22:05 <Goatroth> It won't take long for the solution to become mainstream.
22:06 <Sour_Sweet> Even if it does: Auto-update might break, distribution is going to be more painful, ...
22:06 <jimmt> the signature requirement seems really unfortunate to me
22:06 <Sour_Sweet> Addon blocking might not work which even more problematic.
22:06 <jimmt> it's ostensibly to prevent malware addons being put there by other programs
22:06 <Sour_Sweet> is*
22:07 <jimmt> but I think the real purpose is just giving the vendors more control over what the user is allowed to do
22:07 <Sour_Sweet> It's a good idea very badly executed
22:07 <jimmt> which is the direction web browsers have been going for a long time
22:07 <Princess-Luna> *Everything has been going.
22:07 <jimmt> it's going to serve its real purpose very well, limiting user freedom
22:08 <Goatroth> Until a suitable alternative is created.
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22:28 <Divide|Tech> Unless I mistake things, there is no circumstance under which publishers can utterly block users from using adblockers, because the difference between an adblocker and a DNS failure can't be determined on the server side.
22:31 <Divide|Tech> There are adblockers which are kind enough to tell the server itself that yes, they're in use. In return, server owners usually provide a notification which says, "Look, we appreciate that you hate ads - everyone does - but may you please whitelist us?"
22:32 <Divide|Tech> And that's nice, a gentleman's agreement of sorts.
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22:33 <Tirek> I wish advertisers would have that level of an agreeable nature.
22:33 <Sour_Sweet> Divide|Tech: I can detect any adblocker with 10 lines of JS 6_9
22:34 <Sour_Sweet> Or a few static resources
22:34 <Sour_Sweet> It's extremely simple actually
22:34 <Tirek> If ads weren't completely obnoxious, intrusive, and even dangerous, I wouldn't have to block ads as a whole.
22:35 <Divide|Tech> Sour_Sweet, browser-based adblockers, certainly. What about a local proxy?
22:35 <Sour_Sweet> Same
22:35 <Sour_Sweet> No difference
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22:35 <Divide|Tech> One which doesn't actually affect the web page, but simply blocks the DNS servers leading to advertising networks?
22:35 <Sour_Sweet> DNS based blocker are a little harder, but those can be easily fooled so they're useless
22:35 <Sour_Sweet> blockers*
22:36 <Divide|Tech> Fair enough, then consider me edumacated. Tirek has it right, though. If advertisements weren't so obnoxious, perhaps we wouldn't feel forced to block them.
22:36 <Princess-Luna> Of course, the logic is that the adverts have to be obnoxious to get attention/stick in the head
22:37 <Sour_Sweet> Obnoxious ads came first though
22:37 <Divide|Tech> Punch the advertiser and win $100!
22:37 <Sour_Sweet> I remember not knowing where to click to download stuff because there were 5 download buttons on one site
22:38 <Sour_Sweet> Popups existed far before any adblocker for example
22:38 <Sour_Sweet> Popup blockers are the first adblockers if you want.
22:38 <Sour_Sweet> Integrated directly into every modern browser because they were that annoying.
22:39 <Goatroth> When I see the little notifications that ask me to turn off my adblock I see it as a challenge to remove those too, and I usually succeed.
22:39 <Sour_Sweet> If a website claims in their notification or in the text behind it that they use "fair" ads I give 'em a chance
22:39 <Goatroth> It's when they start randomizing the code that it becomes next to impossible.
22:40 <Sour_Sweet> This is why I have adblock disabled on EqD for example.
22:41 <Divide|Tech> Yup, there are a few networks which are sane. EqD, some tech news sites like Boingboing, Wired, et cetera. For those, sure.
22:43 <Divide|Tech> I operate on a whitelist system because while they have the technical know-how to weed out the problems, sites like CNN, CBC, and - oh, half the ones out there - do not have the slightest clue.
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22:53 <Magnus> とても休み
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23:05 *** Princess-Luna is now known as SunsetShimmer
23:05 <PonyZX> Hi
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23:06 <SunsetShimmer> Aloha, Scoots
23:06 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
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23:15 <PonyZX> I like trains
23:16 <SunsetShimmer> Trains are kinda neat
23:17 <PonyZX> Why?
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23:19 <SunsetShimmer> They take you places at high speed, and make loud noises :P
23:19 <Thelema5> They're the most efficient means of transporting cargo over land by far
23:20 *** TimidTanuki|Work is now known as Timid|Away
23:20 <Thelema5> I'm pretty sure they're among the safer forms of travel, as well
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23:22 <PonyZX> How about horses?
23:23 <Thelema5> Horses produce far too many greenhouse gases to be considered as an alternative.
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23:23 <Magnus> Thelema5 - I found you a new guitar
23:24 <Thelema5> Oh?
23:24 <Magnus> http://gittlerinstruments.com/product/gittler-guitar-armed-forces-model
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23:24 <Thelema5> Metal
23:25 <Magnus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eEB-vJic_o
23:25 * Thelema5 headbangs
23:25 <Magnus> Really weird thing
23:25 <saltwater_coleslaw> i can headbang
23:25 <Vulpor> What's good pony people?
23:25 * saltwater_coleslaw headbangs
23:25 <Thelema5> Hiya, Vulpor
23:26 <Vulpor> hiya Thelema5
23:26 * Thelema5 is just procrastinating
23:26 <Thelema5> Kook, that guitar is really cool
23:26 <PonyZX> Since when Harley Queen is a heroe? xux sorry, i dont know i can translate my question
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23:27 <Vulpor> I am prepping for my trip to charokee
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23:27 <Thelema5> I hope you win big!
23:27 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Wallpaper Compilation #156 [ http://tinyurl.com/gpa5puc ]
23:28 <PonyZX> https://legionofcollectors.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/SuperHeroGirls-BatmanPops-Nov-2016.png.png
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23:28 <CleverDerpy> where is luna?
23:28 <CleverDerpy> princess luna~?
23:29 <PonyZX> Luna is like Gaster
23:30 <CleverDerpy> she builds death canons that can decimate a heart in under 2 seconds
23:30 <PonyZX> Yep o,o you can only find cheating
23:30 <CleverDerpy> SunsetShimmer
23:30 <CleverDerpy> Derpy has a delivery
23:31 <CleverDerpy> I also have mail for Thelema5
23:31 <CleverDerpy> it's a package and I need a signautre
23:32 * Thelema5 ears prick
23:32 * Thelema5 scratches out a squiggly line
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23:33 * SunsetShimmer cuddles a CleverDerpy
23:33 * Librarian opens the package
23:33 <Scootaloo> Wait what about me?
23:33 <Librarian> tis a wiriri
23:33 <PonyZX> Oh mistic and swetty CleverDerpy, tellme all your secrets
23:34 * CleverDerpy gives Thelema5 a small square pakcage
23:35 <CleverDerpy> PonyZX, try asking again later~
23:35 <Scootaloo> Here Sour_Sweet this is relevant to your interests http://aurelleah.tumblr.com/post/153312888048/overlooking-her-subjects-3-time-taken-75h
23:35 * Thelema5 shakes it gingerly, trying to guess whats inside
23:35 * CleverDerpy gives SunsetShimmer a copy of pokemon sun
23:35 <SunsetShimmer> Sweet~
23:35 * Thelema5 opens the package and finds.... a thing!
23:35 <CleverDerpy> and one for luna
23:35 <Librarian> i want moon owo
23:35 * Thelema5 glomps CleverDerpy
23:35 <Librarian> its not a thing
23:36 <Librarian> its a wiriwiri
23:36 * CleverDerpy inside of Thelema5's package is a... very fancy muffin
23:36 <Thelema5> Thanksie for the fancy muffin thing!
23:36 * CleverDerpy giggles and hugs
23:36 <Librarian> what about the wiriwiri i ordered?
23:36 <Twilight`Sparkle> fnarfle.
23:36 <CleverDerpy> SunsetShimmer, give this to luna
23:36 * CleverDerpy gives her a copy of pokemon moon
23:37 <CleverDerpy> I got my shipment about 6 hours early
23:37 <Librarian> pokemon?
23:37 * CleverDerpy gives Librarian a moon cake
23:37 <Librarian> i wants to play
23:37 <PonyZX> Hi Librarian
23:37 <Librarian> greetings and salutations
23:38 <PonyZX> o,ob
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23:39 <CleverDerpy> Librarian, I just happen to have a spare copy
23:39 <Librarian> code or physical?
23:39 <CleverDerpy> pretend copy~
23:39 <PonyZX> o,o i want a cookie
23:39 <Librarian> ohhh
23:39 * CleverDerpy gives PonyZX a big cookie
23:39 <Librarian> ill give you ponyzx for it
23:39 <PonyZX> yay o,o
23:40 <CleverDerpy> Librarian, maybe if I save some money, i'll buy you a code
23:40 <CleverDerpy> but I got a few things to take care of
23:41 <Librarian> owo
23:41 <CleverDerpy> Derpy really doesn't have a lot of bits atm, irl
23:41 <Librarian> i has the money,
23:41 <CleverDerpy> Librarian, I can help
23:41 <CleverDerpy> hold on
23:41 <CleverDerpy> got a 3ds ready with about 3.2 gb of space?
23:41 <saltwater_coleslaw> anyone play Prodigy?
23:42 <Librarian> sure
23:42 <CleverDerpy> http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/pokemon-moon-3ds click "pre purchase"
23:43 <CleverDerpy> then enter your Nintendo network id and a usable credit or debit card there, it will auto load it onto your system
23:43 <Librarian> .....
23:43 <Librarian> nuuuu
23:43 <Librarian> i have the money on hold
23:43 <CleverDerpy> darn
23:44 <Librarian> bank is being bad on me
23:44 <CleverDerpy> well, if I had the money
23:44 <CleverDerpy> i would give you the code
23:44 <Librarian> its ok
23:44 <Librarian> i can give you a wiriwiri
23:45 <Thelema5> Librarian, what the heck is a wiriwiri?
23:46 <PonyZX> o,o
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23:49 * Librarian applies a wiri wiri to fall
23:50 <Librarian> fall has become a wiriri
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23:50 <Librarian> a wiriri is a walla walla
23:50 <Fall> Stop appropriating my culture!
23:50 <Librarian> ?
23:50 <Librarian> its actually a thing?
23:51 <Fall> Haven't the foggiest
23:51 <Librarian> ok
23:51 <Thelema5> :p
23:51 <Librarian> wiriwiri is a mexican slang for talking a lot
23:52 <Librarian> i find it funyy
23:52 <Thelema5> XD
23:52 * CleverDerpy spins around a lot
23:52 <CleverDerpy> wiri wirl~
23:53 * Thelema5 stops procrastinating and goes to do chores
23:53 * CleverDerpy gets dizzy and fall over, giggling
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23:59 <Divide|Tech> Plan (n): The thing which first starts to deteriorate.
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