00:02 <Sombra> A little sore
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00:03 <Cepheid> That was a useless lecture.
00:03 <Gladi-Colt> 4 hours until Bioware's Facial Contortion Simulator 2017
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00:03 <Cepheid> We spent most of the lecture listening to the professor question whether or not he got the answers to some example questions he wrote down on the blackboard.
00:04 <SaultSteMarie> I had this one class where I always showed up 10 minutes late because I literally was missing nothing
00:05 <SaultSteMarie> I mean hopefully the prof wasn't waiting on me that would've been dumb
00:05 <SaultSteMarie> like one time he was showing baby pictures of his son
00:05 <SaultSteMarie> This other class I had with him one of the lectures was like just an advertisement for the NVIDIA TITAN or something
00:05 <Cepheid> Heh.
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00:06 <Cepheid> It's unfortunate. The guy has the right personality for teaching, but given it's his first year teaching, he hasn't quite figured out the basic techniques to expressing knowledge, nor does he have confidence in himself.
00:06 <SaultSteMarie> Ah.
00:06 <SaultSteMarie> Yeah that's not good :<
00:07 <Gladi-Colt> hug he
00:07 <Cepheid> Also, I shushed the first group of students for the first time this semester.
00:08 <Cepheid> Trio of students on the far-left side of the lecture hall were talking loud enough to distract a number of students. I got up, walked over, and quietly told them that many of us are there because we paid to be there, and that if they want to talk, that the door is right behind them and they can talk outside the lecture hall.
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00:11 <SaultSteMarie> Nice.
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00:12 <Cepheid> o/` Triangle man, Triangle man, Triangle man hates particle man. o/`
00:13 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhb33u-XZLY
00:13 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Particle Mare
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00:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> "Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople..."
00:17 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/animoosucks/status/843973270584135682 Arachnopobes should not click this link. I just find spiders cute.
00:18 <SaultSteMarie> https://curiouscat.me/bombsfall/post/111185007
00:18 <SaultSteMarie> Only 1 in 1000 people getting a TMBG reference? >:T
00:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: After the Fact: Studying Starlight [ http://tinyurl.com/mgw8sar ]
00:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> ...what bird night light?
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00:25 <nyditch> o.o
00:25 <Twilight`Sparkle> O.O
00:25 <Twilight`Sparkle> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3oSyr8mHY4
00:25 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Mairzy Doats (Mares Eat Oats)
00:27 <nyditch> hehe
00:28 <nyditch> I would. Wooden shoe?
00:28 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yes.
00:30 <SaultSteMarie> alright, got the dried rice defrosting in the pantry. Maybe I should walk out to the grocery store and get something a little more caffeinated than this Moxie.
00:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> Get pure caffeine.
00:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> Add it to stuff you consume in small amounts.
00:31 <nyditch> 100% caffeine, 200% sugar
00:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> Become a shivering wreck.
00:32 <SaultSteMarie> couldn't i just get adderall at that point
00:32 <SaultSteMarie> make various micro-foods, such as a single cheerio with a carrot sliver stuck out the center, dusted with powedered adderall and multivitamin
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00:32 <Twilight`Sparkle> I don't think so.
00:32 <Twilight`Sparkle> Hello
00:33 <Cepheid> Why are we discussing ways to kill one another via caffiene?
00:33 <DARK> hell // re
00:33 <SaultSteMarie> easy way to kill someone via caffeine: get a giant caffeine pill. sharpen it. stab.
00:33 <nyditch> THat works I guess
00:34 <nyditch> Sounds like you have more experience with killing people than I.
00:34 <SaultSteMarie> method 2: get a caffeine pill and write "smoke the cigarettes" on it. the person will start smoking and then die after they get stabbed to death with a giant sharp caffeine pill because they blew smoke in someone's face
00:34 <Cepheid> ...
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00:35 <Twilight`Sparkle> Method 3: use a gun.
00:35 <nyditch> Is it possible to confound someone to death?
00:35 <SaultSteMarie> you are in a room. There are hundreds of sapient, animated caffeine pills holding guns at your head.
00:35 <Vulpor> So......is it sad I like to listen to old cartoon themes sometimes? lol
00:35 <Cepheid> Canadian, can't get a gun. What do you suggest I do? Throw a pissed off cat at someone?
00:35 <Twilight`Sparkle> Confound those Dover Boys!
00:35 <Cepheid> And hope that cat scratch fever kills them?
00:35 <Twilight`Sparkle> Nah.
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00:35 <Twilight`Sparkle> You're Canadian. Use a moose.
00:35 <SaultSteMarie> Cepheid: Maple Beaver Tim Hortons.
00:36 <Cepheid> Though, I guess I *CAN* get a hunting rifle or crossbow legally.
00:36 <Vulpor> A room with a moose!
00:36 <Cepheid> Just have to argue I'd use it entirely for hunting. And not state what species I am hunting.
00:36 <nyditch> Hold on, let's back up a second..... who is it we need to kill anyways? I mean, it's good info to have.
00:36 <Cepheid> Everyone?
00:36 <SaultSteMarie> Couldn't you just send whoever it is to like rural Manitoba.
00:36 <nyditch> Oh..... that's too easy
00:36 <SaultSteMarie> Isn't that BASICALLY being dead
00:37 <Cepheid> You raise a valid point.
00:37 <Cepheid> Could also send them up north to the territories.
00:38 <SaultSteMarie> maybe set them up on a date with Harper???
00:38 <nyditch> I found a good way to eliminate about half the population of California....
00:38 <SaultSteMarie> Weaponize all the nerium oleander that grows there?
00:38 <nyditch> Send them to New York and tell them to cross the street.
00:38 <Cepheid> nyditch: That one might actually work, if what I've seen of the few cities I've been to in the US is any indication.
00:38 <nyditch> Probably only half of them would make it. The other half would assume cars stop for them.
00:38 <Twilight`Sparkle> New York is worse.
00:39 <Cepheid> Traffic in said cities was considerably worse compared to here. And- What Twilight`Sparkle said.
00:39 <Twilight`Sparkle> What cities have you been to?
00:39 <SaultSteMarie> I'm in Columbus, OH and people do not yield to pedestrians here.
00:39 <Cepheid> Seattle, Washington. San Francisco, California.
00:39 <SaultSteMarie> anyway imma go grab me a yerba mate
00:39 <Twilight`Sparkle> It depends on the city.
00:39 <Twilight`Sparkle> And the Pedestrian.
00:39 <Cepheid> Both were reasonably bad in terms of traffic. Closest city in Canada I know of that came close to them was Montreal.
00:40 <Cepheid> Even Toronto is safer.
00:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> Though I also don't know what you mean by "bad"
00:40 <nyditch> I have a feeling Toronto is a nice place
00:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> Toronna
00:40 <SaultSteMarie> you can go underground in toronto
00:40 <SaultSteMarie> stay there
00:40 <Cepheid> "Trying to cross the street seems dangerous to me. Even at the crosswalks."
00:40 <Cepheid> That's what I mean by bad.
00:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> Ah.
00:41 <Twilight`Sparkle> I just made sure to look right at the driver's face when I crossed in Philadelphia.
00:41 <Cepheid> You get the occasional red-light runner, or people who brake at the last second here in Ottawa, but these problems seemed to be far more frequent in those cities.
00:41 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yeah, I haven't been to those cities.
00:41 <Cepheid> There's a higher density of cars on the road compared to here, so it's to be expected.
00:41 <SaultSteMarie> also smart phone users
00:41 <SaultSteMarie> behind the wheel
00:41 <Cepheid> Yes.
00:41 <Cepheid> Those ones are troublesome these days.
00:41 <Cepheid> We keep racking up the fine for people doing that, but it doesn't seem to be deterring them.
00:42 <SaultSteMarie> iPhones are like paper thin, just snap 'em in half >:C
00:42 <Twilight`Sparkle> Because not enough people get actually stopped for it.
00:44 <Cepheid> Probably.
00:44 <Cepheid> That said the number of people being caught and the number of charges are rising.
00:44 <Cepheid> So the police *ARE* trying. But even then, people don't want to listen.
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00:45 <nyditch> There are people who are unhindered talking on the phone while driving, but there are many more who drive terrible when doing so
00:45 <SaultSteMarie> just crank the data charges when caught.
00:45 <nyditch> Ooh, nice idea
00:46 <nyditch> Except they'll switch carriers
00:46 <SaultSteMarie> Eh there's only like two carrires in the US with decent coverage. Wouldn't help.
00:47 <nyditch> Many years ago one of my cousins said, "There should be the same penalty for everything. You get arrested and charged wit ha crime, you get shot in the arm.
00:47 <Twilight`Sparkle> Nibelsnarf.
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00:48 <Cepheid> I have not hunted one in a while.
00:48 <Cepheid> I think I may spend some of my free time between semesters hunting stuff.
00:48 <Twilight`Sparkle> Not a bad plan.
00:49 <Cepheid> And intermix that with actually writing some danged code for some project I intend to complete.
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01:06 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/t/caturday/zbZJrsC
01:06 <Cepheid> Apparently cats will lick even velcro constantly, even if their tongue gets stuck to it.
01:10 <Cepheid> Right, time for me to get some sleep.
01:11 <Cepheid> See you nutjobs tomorrow. Preferably after I finish my stats homework.
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01:29 * Tempo has a cute on his face! Oh the horror?
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01:34 <Filly_Nightmares> !hug
01:34 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3
01:34 <Filly_Nightmares> Yis
01:34 <Filly_Nightmares> Yes
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01:36 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Art Gallery) #2204 [ http://tinyurl.com/mw69zk4 ]
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01:37 <Gladiolus> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkEXjD1znAU
01:37 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
01:37 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Tiberian Sun Soundtrack - Scouting
01:40 <SaultSteMarie> Wonder if my rice's ready
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02:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1022 [ http://tinyurl.com/kae2kve ]
02:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Starlight Glimmer Day - More Glimmy Comics! [ http://tinyurl.com/nxjljk9 ]
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02:26 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony
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02:57 <Thelema5> !link cute ponies
02:57 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/472151?scope=scpe38de75009ae1b73235cbc9f0cd215795932f7d79
02:58 * Gladiolus hugs Thelema5
02:58 <Thelema5> Happy first day of spring, everypony!
02:58 * Thelema5 counterhugs!
02:58 <Gladiolus> bioware's facial oddity simulator in one hour
02:58 * Gladiolus vibrates
03:05 <VinylScratch> Meme Effect: Apocalypto
03:06 <SaultSteMarie> Panzer Dragoon is good :>
03:11 <SaultSteMarie> gladiolus who needs mass effect when you haaaave https://www.gog.com/game/starflight_1_2
03:11 <Gladiolus> lol
03:12 <RazorSharpFang> Gladiolus: From what I've seen it looks really really weird.
03:12 <Gladiolus> yeah it has some issues
03:12 <Gladiolus> but i played and enjoyed the trial
03:12 <Gladiolus> the facial issues are... there, but it's still enjoyable and they aren't like, constant or in your face
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03:15 <RazorSharpFang> It just confuses me, it looks weirder than Oblivion's faces, man. Oblivion.
03:16 <Gladiolus> You're seeing specifically the worst of them for comedic value.
03:16 <Gladiolus> Which are pretty bad yes but that's not representative of the whole or enjoyment of said whole.
03:17 <RazorSharpFang> Gladiolus: Even when people also pick out the worst of Oblivion's for comedic value, even so.
03:17 <Gladiolus> Oblivion was also more basic and less could go wrong.
03:18 <Gladiolus> Basically my idea is that Andromeda has a very good /system/ and the team was not... good.
03:18 <Gladiolus> So some things look fine, and others were slapdashed and when your system is so complex welp.
03:18 <RazorSharpFang> Basically handing a novice a complicated tool.
03:19 <Gladiolus> Sometimes it does actually work /very/ well, there's some bits where Daddy Ryder is giving speeches and it looks fantastic.
03:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Starlight Day - Open Art Submissions! [ http://tinyurl.com/kx2qae7 ]
03:19 <Gladiolus> Too bad they didn't have a better team, the news around it is hecka weird.
03:19 <Gladiolus> Some said she was the lead, but Bioware said not, and she has no experience... who is right? I dunno.
03:19 <SaultSteMarie> Oblivion's problem was that they bought face middleware and it was like, GOOD middleware, but they left all the faces on stock or something
03:19 <RazorSharpFang> Bioware has a troubled history, so this is just par for the course.
03:19 <SaultSteMarie> So everyone looked weird
03:19 <Gladiolus> The fact idiots have decided to send someone /threats/ over a goddamn video game just makes it all more awful.
03:20 <SaultSteMarie> It's like the thing with Radiant AI where in and of itself it worked really well but the game barely had any radiant AI scripts in place.
03:20 <Gladiolus> like wtf even the worst video game messup isn't worth threatening someone what even
03:20 <RazorSharpFang> Gladiolus: People send death threats for bad reviews on BoTW, so no duh.
03:20 <SaultSteMarie> It's like they go through all this trouble implementing these complex systems they /never use/
03:20 <RazorSharpFang> SaultSteMarie: They had high anticipations.
03:20 <SaultSteMarie> ???
03:21 <RazorSharpFang> "Oh man, this is going to be so cool, we're going to make a great scripting engine, and all sorts of cool stuff and .... where'd our budget go?"
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03:23 <Librarian> i got a writing contract oportuniity sort off
03:23 * Gladiolus noms Librarian
03:23 <Librarian> i also got nagged to death over it owo
03:23 * Gladiolus nomf noms!
03:24 <Librarian> owo
03:25 <SaultSteMarie> Razor: Their budget went to patrick stewart.
03:25 <RazorSharpFang> Who's that?
03:25 <SaultSteMarie> a stew artist.
03:25 <SaultSteMarie> the guys that make the stew at Stewway.
03:26 <RazorSharpFang> Which NPC did Patrick voice?
03:27 <SaultSteMarie> the king that dies after five minutes
03:27 <Librarian> final fantasy?
03:27 <RazorSharpFang> It can be a lot longer if you're grinding skills
03:28 <SaultSteMarie> there are no skills to grind at that point????
03:28 <RazorSharpFang> Restoration
03:28 <RazorSharpFang> Athletics
03:28 <RazorSharpFang> Acrobatics
03:28 <RazorSharpFang> Sneak
03:28 <RazorSharpFang> Bro.
03:28 <SaultSteMarie> Bro isn't a skill
03:28 <RazorSharpFang> BRO.
03:29 <Librarian> bro
03:31 <KooK> Brah
03:31 <VinylScratch> bruh
03:31 <SaultSteMarie> brerb
03:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> Brau
03:31 <Twilight`Sparkle> SIEGBRAU
03:32 <SaultSteMarie> i'm kilroy
03:32 <SaultSteMarie> i killed roy
03:32 <SaultSteMarie> roy rogers is dead
03:32 <SaultSteMarie> roger waters was the second member of pink floyd named roger.
03:33 <Librarian> wasnt kilroy here?
03:33 <SaultSteMarie> oh anyway so hofbrau actually has an umlaut over the a so it's pronounced like it rhymes with roy
03:33 <Twilight`Sparkle> No.
03:33 <Librarian> kilroy was everywhere
03:33 <Twilight`Sparkle> But also nowhere.
03:34 <Librarian> owo
03:34 <Librarian> like my owo
03:34 <Twilight`Sparkle> Kilroy does not exist.
03:35 <Librarian> who says we exist?
03:35 <Librarian> what is real anyway
03:35 <Librarian> baboso ergo sum owo
03:35 <Twilight`Sparkle> ME.
03:35 <SaultSteMarie> Windows ME was very real, yes.
03:35 <SaultSteMarie> A little TOO real.
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03:36 <Gladiolus> I have a computer beside me running 98SE
03:36 <Gladiolus> lmao
03:36 <Gladiolus> ME wasn't that bad if you... didn't use any of things it actually added over 98.
03:36 <SaultSteMarie> or just didn't use it period
03:36 <Gladiolus> In which case it was just 98SE without real-mode and better USB support.
03:36 <Librarian> this is going to be hard, i need to write a book and deal with the insurance nonsense
03:36 <Gladiolus> Do it!
03:37 <Librarian> yay
03:37 <Thelema5> Librarian, you can do it!
03:37 <Thelema5> Grind through it one step at a time
03:37 <Librarian> its the same book i didnt finish before
03:38 <Librarian> you are in it. finwe is in it
03:38 <Librarian> gladiolus has to be in it
03:38 <Gladiolus> dew it
03:38 <Gladiolus> gasp
03:38 <Gladiolus> the hugbat?
03:38 <Gladiolus> owo
03:38 <Librarian> ummm
03:38 <Librarian> you can be a navigator
03:38 <Gladiolus> o3o yus
03:38 <Librarian> a hugbat navigator
03:38 <Gladiolus> c:
03:39 <Librarian> got a drawing of you bat?
03:39 <Librarian> thelema is the right hand mand of the worlds most powerful businessman
03:40 <Librarian> finwe is a smith that brews beer
03:40 <Gladiolus> https://derpibooru.org/1383997?q=oc%3Agladiolus
03:40 <Gladiolus> 3rd from the right
03:40 <Gladiolus> http://saxopi.deviantart.com/art/a-gleeful-glady-653857522
03:40 <Gladiolus> also me :3
03:41 <Librarian> ok. you will be the navigator of the protagonist after some stuff happens
03:41 <Librarian> its like a videogame adevnture
03:42 <Librarian> what does gladiolus means anyway?
03:42 <Gladiolus> It's a flower o3o
03:42 <Librarian> o3o
03:43 <Gladiolus> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Gladiolus_imbricatus1002.jpg/220px-Gladiolus_imbricatus1002.jpg
03:43 <Librarian> ohh
03:43 <Gladiolus> http://media.americanmeadows.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x/2664a1c26d20ff89f08769f165108d16/g/l/gladioluspastelmix1.jpg
03:43 <Gladiolus> they are toxic, don't eat! :p
03:43 <Librarian> i need more charcters
03:43 <Librarian> anywant wanna volunter?
03:44 <SaultSteMarie> plamps
03:44 <Librarian> plamps indeed
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03:49 <RazorSharpFang> Gladiolus: That's just your opinion
03:49 <Gladiolus> wut
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04:44 <Starwatcher> hello little one
04:44 <Starwatcher> how are you?
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04:48 <Starwatcher> mrr?
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05:09 <Golden> Good night ponies
05:09 <nyditch> g'night
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05:20 <DashedRainbows> Good evening everypony
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05:47 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
05:47 <nyditch> hola
05:47 * ConfusionRift waves.
05:48 <nyditch> This town.... has almost nothing for late night food.
05:49 <nyditch> Can get a pretty good burger, but that's about it.
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05:53 <nyditch> Arite, guess I'm gonna o burger myself. *afk for a bit*
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06:01 <JackieSleep> Is cyber bullying prohibited
06:02 <ConfusionRift> In here? Yes. Generally, it is. But we have no control over it.
06:02 <JackieSleep> Like you can ban users from it
06:02 <JackieSleep> In #derpibooru, I got cyber bullied
06:03 <ConfusionRift> I have no control over that channel.
06:04 <Schism> "My deepest heart's desire is pie?" "Yep. Pretty much everyone's is, really, though most don't realize it. It's the simple pleasures, you know?"
06:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Starlight Day - Analysis and Random Videos! [ http://tinyurl.com/l59trum ]
06:06 <JackieSleep> I just think there's harassment not allowed in Canternet
06:07 <ConfusionRift> There is, but mods are not the same among channels.
06:08 <Mike_Coltfield> Except for my goldfish. It sees - and eats - all.
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06:09 <ConfusionRift> Indeed it does.
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06:14 <KooK> butts
06:15 <nyditch> Booting up meal.... Meat patty sandwich.... Loaded Toppings.... Loaded Beverage.... Loaded Fries.... Loaded Consumption Processes.... Initiated
06:16 * Schism sips his bowl of tomato and rice soup with cheddar cheese.
06:17 <nyditch> More tomato soup
06:17 <nyditch> From a can?
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06:18 <Schism> Sadly so, but I added a few things to make it somewhat more palatable.
06:18 <nyditch> 'tis the way to do it.
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06:20 <nyditch> The Campbell's tomato soup says add water, but my dad taught me long ago to do half water half milk. It's better.
06:21 <nyditch> and I'm sure it's good with rice, no?
06:22 <RazorSharpFang> nyditch: That's just up to personal taste.
06:22 <Schism> Indeed, if you don't just do it with all milk. Also, cheddar cheese, hot sauce, a few vegetables, and some rice.
06:22 <nyditch> Nice
06:23 * nyditch subjects others to objective personal taste shenannigans.
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06:25 <nyditch> Yellow mustard is no good. Objective fact. Scientifically proven by my mouth with many trials to back it up.
06:26 * ConfusionRift grabs the bottle of mustard, and drinks from it.
06:27 <nyditch> Some folks are okay with bad food. I can't help that.
06:27 <nyditch> =P
06:27 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh! Oh boy.
06:27 * ConfusionRift empties the bottle on nyditch's food as well.
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06:28 <nyditch> Nooooo! Ruined! Radioactive mustard contamination detected!
06:28 <Schism> There is also the question of macaroni and cheese.
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06:31 <nyditch> *muffled mumble through suit* Mac n' Cheese ish good, but fresh ish better
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06:36 <WildStar> Howdy
06:36 <nyditch> Heyhey
06:36 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.
06:36 <WildStar> How is everyone?
06:37 * ConfusionRift blows up the bottle of mustard. Now it's everywhere.
06:37 <nyditch> Noooo! Mustard contamination everywhere! I..... i don't think I'll make it out alive....
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06:39 <WildStar> huh
06:39 <nyditch> I'd go to my fallout bunker.... but I locked the keys inside... and AAA doesn't service IRCland. T_T
06:39 <RazorSharpFang> Time to train your lockpicking skill
06:39 <WildStar> heh
06:39 <WildStar> so
06:39 <WildStar> What's up?
06:40 <nyditch> What lockpicking skill. XD
06:40 <RazorSharpFang> Well, it's 2017 now.
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06:41 <nyditch> WildStar: I was just preaching the good news of how yellow mustard is bad. Then ConfusionRift went and created a hazardous mustard environment.
06:42 <nyditch> .... is what's up
06:42 <nyditch> XD
06:42 <RazorSharpFang> WildStar: Oh, and in recent news, some scientists think that when you calculate the cost of both manufacture, maintenance and destruction/recycling in terms of energy requirements, solar panels actually cost more energy than they provide.
06:42 <WildStar> well ok then
06:42 <WildStar> RazorSharpFang: Well is that for the expected lifespan of the solar panels?
06:43 <RazorSharpFang> WildStar: Yeah, entire expected lifespan of the panels.
06:43 <WildStar> hm
06:43 <WildStar> well lets hope they study/evaluate it more if that's valid
06:43 <RazorSharpFang> My father who's an engineer told me about it
06:43 <nyditch> Can't say I know about solar panels for sure, but there are some solar options that generate much energy with very little infrastructure and manufacture.
06:43 <WildStar> nyditch: Are you a New Vegas fan?
06:44 <WildStar> ah
06:44 <nyditch> I played Fallout 1, 2, and a bit of 3. Ain't played any newer tha nthat yet.
06:44 <WildStar> ah
06:44 <SaultSteMarie> that kind of sounds like it'd be an isuse more with like personal use soloar panels what get put on the houses
06:44 <nyditch> I liked 1 and 2
06:44 <WildStar> There's a song I know that would be great for New Vegas
06:44 <WildStar> *because of the radioactive Western theme
06:44 <SaultSteMarie> like I'd imagine tyou have some really shbad com panies that make tbad tones
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06:45 <RazorSharpFang> SaultSteMarie: I don't think they'd be specifically going for shoddy ones.
06:45 <RazorSharpFang> Unfortunately, the paper hasn't been published yet so.... *shrug*
06:45 <nyditch> Here's some cool alternative solar tech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_updraft_tower
06:45 <RazorSharpFang> Bleeding edge research lol
06:45 <SaultSteMarie> new vegas is neat
06:46 <SaultSteMarie> rex is cute
06:46 <RazorSharpFang> nyditch: That's kinda cool.
06:46 <WildStar> RazorSharpFang: Well if it's a concern then maybe people will try harder to make them efficient
06:46 <RazorSharpFang> WildStar: Hopefully as well, there'll be government regulation about how honest companies have to be about their products.
06:47 <WildStar> competion and scrutiny help push people to make change. When things are unchalleged people get lazy
06:47 <WildStar> I wish all products were mandated to be honest
06:48 <ConfusionRift> /me notices, and flops in tiredness.
06:48 <nyditch> Then outside Southern Las Vegas are some solar towers that use a field of mirrors reflecting onto a collector, which uses a molten-salt type of heat pipe system to transfer the heat to a power plant of some sort.
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06:48 <WildStar> SaultSteMarie: I never beat it though. I started modding N.V. but then had other thigns to do
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06:49 <WildStar> Anyone a fan of the NCR?
06:49 * ConfusionRift hides his Euclid C Finder. "Huh?"
06:50 <nyditch> Here's the solar towers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_tower
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06:51 <RazorSharpFang> "There is evidence that such large area solar concentrating installations can kill birds that fly over them." LMAO
06:51 <nyditch> Yes
06:51 <ConfusionRift> Yep.
06:51 <nyditch> Bird just flying along, then *FOOF*
06:51 <RazorSharpFang> That is both hilarious and terrible.
06:52 * ConfusionRift laughs. He shouldn't laugh. He's a bad pony.
06:53 <WildStar> hmm
06:53 <ConfusionRift> Well, solar panels are known to concentrate that solar energy, and at times get very hot. So fauna can get affected by large solar fields.
06:53 <RazorSharpFang> Also, speaking of renewable energy, there's talk about installing/developing wave energy on the southern coast of Australia.
06:53 <WildStar> So what are your guy's fav chars?
06:53 <RazorSharpFang> WildStar: The null character
06:54 <WildStar> null?
06:54 <WildStar> from..?
06:54 <ConfusionRift> What's that character? | "Exactly."
06:54 <RazorSharpFang> You know, 0x0, \0
06:54 <RazorSharpFang> NULL, null, Null
06:54 <RazorSharpFang> nul
06:54 <ConfusionRift> Referred to as... nothing.
06:55 <WildStar> I wasn't sure if that was an actual chars name
06:55 <WildStar> instead of just nothing
06:55 <ConfusionRift> Oh right. So, do you mean from the show?
06:55 <RazorSharpFang> It's mostly a programming joke, you said "char"
06:55 <ConfusionRift> Took me a bit, but caught it.
06:56 <nyditch> Null character is like the number zero. We have a name for it, a way to identify it, a symbol, but it literally means nothing.
06:56 <WildStar> I am really behind on internet stuff/pop culture/something (not sure) so I wouldn't put it past people to mention characters i don't know
06:56 <Fn> Depends on the solar panels
06:56 <WildStar> ConfusionRift: I mean in mlp atleast
06:56 <ConfusionRift> nyditch: However, in programming, 0 is something.
06:56 <WildStar> idk I'm new to the fandom
06:57 <WildStar> 'nothing is something' as well
06:57 <WildStar> in concept that is
06:57 <ConfusionRift> I have no favorites! (looks at the Flutters plush) ... (hides it)
06:57 <nyditch> Yeah, though in the physical world 0 is a representation of nothing.
06:57 <Fn> If they are the heat solar, then yes the birdy will "FOOF" while flying through a concentrated beam
06:58 <nyditch> In fact, in programming it is, as well, and electronics. It's useful to have nothing sometimes, though.
06:58 * Schism equips duct tape pants. These are an excellent idea.
06:58 <nyditch> We're just very good at using nothing to do something.
06:58 <Fn> It is the most useful in trinary computers
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06:59 <WildStar> ConfusionRift: Fluttershy is a pretty good char
06:59 <nyditch> That is an objectively true statement
07:00 <nyditch> XD
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07:03 <WildStar> I made a digital NCR flag a while back, if anyone cares to see
07:03 * nyditch doesn't know what NCR is
07:04 <Fn> I wonder if there is a bird dumb enough to fly through a heat beam of solar array?
07:05 <ConfusionRift> New California Republic, a faction from New Vegas.
07:05 <WildStar> nyditch: New California Republ-
07:05 <WildStar> yeah that
07:05 <WildStar> nvm me
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07:05 <ConfusionRift> :P
07:05 <Fn> I mean you can't even look at the "target" it's so bright
07:05 <nyditch> Ah hah
07:05 <ConfusionRift> Post it if you want. No harm on it.
07:05 <Fn> What bird would dare to fly near it?
07:06 <WildStar> I don't want to bother people with my junk
07:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Starlight Glimmer Day is Over! [ http://tinyurl.com/kxddn73 ]
07:06 <WildStar> ConfusionRift: http://i.imgur.com/8fZj1nX.png
07:06 <Fn> lol WildStar that could be understood two ways
07:07 <WildStar> Fn: also true
07:07 <nyditch> Ah hah
07:07 <WildStar> Maybe I shouldn't add that some of my friends compare me to Krieger
07:07 <WildStar> (for those that have seen Archer)
07:08 <WildStar> *ahem* anyways sorry I'm bad at humor online
07:08 <ConfusionRift> That's a nice looking version of it.
07:09 <ConfusionRift> Fn: Bird are not exactly... clever at times.
07:10 <WildStar> I tried doing Fallout Equestria art back then too - but I wasn't sure how to do the style yet and hadn't seen the show yet either...
07:10 <Tirek> Greetings, I am here.
07:10 <Fn> ConfusionRift, evolution will sort it out then.
07:10 * Schism disbelieves that Tirek is here.
07:11 <Tirek> I will prove that I am here by presenting a new painting I've done.
07:11 <Tirek> http://i.imgur.com/T8XEV3F.png
07:11 <Fn> Shuun, shuuun the disbeliever!
07:11 <nyditch> Ooh
07:11 <ConfusionRift> Evolution gave us the largest chicken. Praise be the chicken god!
07:11 <ConfusionRift> Oooh, that's nice.
07:12 <Tirek> I found a really cool painting app.
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07:12 <Tirek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x6r1S8MotI
07:12 <Tirek> Here is a demonstration of said app.
07:12 <WildStar> Tirek: I like the lighting you have going there
07:12 <Tirek> Thank ya.
07:13 <WildStar> I'm trying to do more pony art
07:13 <ConfusionRift> The light, the shading, the far blur effect... looks nice.
07:13 <WildStar> but I am never sure of what people will really like - cause I don't do it in the show's style
07:13 <Tirek> I just stick to what I'm decent at, which is landscapes I guess.
07:14 <Tirek> The fluid dynamics for paint is a really gimmicky way to do it but
07:14 <WildStar> landscapes are nice
07:14 <nyditch> Whoa, cool flow effect
07:14 * Sleeping_Nightmares migrates to Tirek's head and sleepies
07:14 <Tirek> It feels really nice to use it.
07:15 <WildStar> I use photoshop :/
07:15 <Tirek> It's kinda like using water color, or if the viscosity of the paint is really high, its probably like using oils.
07:15 <WildStar> huh
07:15 <WildStar> I love oils
07:15 * Sleeping_Nightmares grabs one of his ears and snuggles
07:15 <Tirek> http://www.taron.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6
07:15 <Tirek> Its free
07:15 <WildStar> huh
07:15 <Tirek> But, it uses hardware accelleration to do its thing, so
07:16 <Tirek> You need a decent graphics card to use it.
07:16 <ConfusionRift> Makes sense.
07:16 <Tirek> But the program is SUPER small and really responsive on my machine.
07:16 <nyditch> Nice
07:17 <Tirek> I think the program is a stand-alone app that requires no installation, and its something like half a meg.
07:17 <WildStar> http://i.imgur.com/hojZT7o.png
07:17 <nyditch> Heh, I never got past doodling in Flash.
07:17 <Tirek> This you?
07:17 <Tirek> er yours?
07:18 <WildStar> I try to do cartooning but idk it feels alien to me
07:18 <ConfusionRift> Never got pass pencil and paper... oh wait, I did try vectoring. But that was more like tracing.
07:18 <WildStar> Tirek: My attempt at funny art
07:18 <Tirek> Ya do gud pony
07:18 <nyditch> Never got too into attempting to animate stuff
07:19 <nyditch> but I do feel like trying my hand at it
07:19 <WildStar> I practiced animating for a short while but I don't have the programs for it anymore
07:19 <WildStar> Tirek: Thank you. Idk on that pic per sa
07:19 <Fn> nyditch, Ghost in the Shell
07:19 <Fn> Must watch
07:20 <WildStar> ConfusionRift: Vector can be pretty amazing
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07:20 <nyditch> Fn: Of course
07:20 <Fn> Especially if you have seen matrix movies
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07:20 <Tirek> Here's another thing I did in this program
07:20 <Tirek> http://i.imgur.com/ct0P3w5.jpg
07:20 <Tirek> I don't really like how it turned out, but.
07:20 <nyditch> I watched all of the original GITS series/movies
07:21 <WildStar> well the feel is really nice
07:21 <nyditch> it's bee na while, but they were great.
07:21 <WildStar> I like the atmosphere - I think I can see what you were going for
07:21 <WildStar> I did a really nice AJ pic
07:22 <Tirek> Last time I drew pony stuff was years and years ago.
07:22 <WildStar> cause I swear I don't draw her 400% more than the other chars >_>
07:22 <Tirek> (3 to be exact)
07:22 <WildStar> huh
07:22 <ConfusionRift> Tirek: You know, this would look nice as a water effect of a city drawing, or maybe underwater.
07:22 <Fn> My faves are Ergo Proxy, Texhnolyse and Samurai Champloo
07:22 <ConfusionRift> I know that's kinda the gimmick, but still. Me likes it.
07:22 <WildStar> Tirek: That around when I started watching - cause my gf loves the show etc
07:22 <nyditch> Ergo Proxy was marvelous
07:22 <Fn> Also "Cowboy Beebop" is a classic must-watch anime
07:23 <nyditch> Loves Samurai Champloo
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07:23 <nyditch> Loved*
07:23 <WildStar> I don't watch anime anymore thoguh
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07:24 <nyditch> and haven't seen much of Texhnolyse
07:24 <WildStar> well
07:24 <WildStar> I guess I should go sleep now
07:25 <WildStar> it was nice chatting with you all. I'll be back around sometime, idk when
07:26 <nyditch> Laters, Wild
07:26 <Fn> nyditch, texhnolyse is even slower pace than GitS
07:26 <WildStar> adios
07:26 <Fn> Intentionally so
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07:26 <ConfusionRift> Laters, and have a good one.
07:26 <ConfusionRift> Blarg.
07:26 <nyditch> Fn: I started it, but got distracted and forgot to pick it back up. Happens sometimes.
07:27 <Fn> Not surprised
07:27 <Fn> There is a lot of "nothing happens" inearly episodes
07:27 <nyditch> It's interesting, but yeah slow at first. I gotta pick it back up.
07:27 <Fn> I also got impatient ans skippedy-skipped them
07:28 <nyditch> Ergo Proxy had such a wonderful atmosphere
07:28 <Fn> Fun fact: pacing of the Texhnolyse episodes is based on a particular classical music pace
07:28 <nyditch> It was beautiful
07:29 <nyditch> Intersting
07:29 <Fn> It has a "crescendo" in 3rd quarter
07:29 <Fn> Ergo Proxy is based of greek mythos
07:30 <Fn> And spliced with christian religion here and there a bit
07:31 <nyditch> I could see that
07:32 <Fn> Ergo Proxy also has a lot of references to works of philosophy
07:32 <nyditch> Yup
07:33 <Fn> It has an unusually deep philosophical layering for an anime
07:33 <Fn> Texhnolyse is more psychological, very mush asking the same question as GitS
07:34 <Fn> What is "I" if all my body parts are mechamical
07:34 <nyditch> Aye
07:35 <nyditch> <3 philosophical anime.
07:35 <Fn> They are rare though
07:35 <nyditch> Lain was a bit philosophical
07:35 <Fn> Most anime is pretty shallow
07:35 <nyditch> It depends where ya look
07:36 <nyditch> Most mainstream, yeah.
07:36 <Fn> Lain is, but it is not my cup of tea
07:37 <nyditch> Sword Art Online was entertaining but pretty shallow. Visually pleasing, for sure. Log Horizon, however, took almost the same concept and added a whole other layer of philosophical depth to it
07:38 * ConfusionRift does a slow shrug.
07:38 <nyditch> Sry, nerding ou about anime
07:38 <ConfusionRift> It's fine.
07:38 <nyditch> Psycho Pass was pretty philosophical, too
07:39 <ConfusionRift> Just remember that kids venture here too.
07:40 <nyditch> Aye
07:43 <nyditch> don't think I've said or mentioned anything that would be inappropriate for a 10-year-old. Most younger kids may not be interested in a lot of those shows.
07:44 <ConfusionRift> Just letting that out. Especially... when I have no idea. (shrugs)
07:45 <nyditch> Aye. Psycho Pass may be a bit violent, but none of those have lewdness.
07:49 <nyditch> Heh, nothing even close to Fallout: Equestria. =P
07:50 <nyditch> Amazing writing, though a bit beyond my own comfort zone.
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08:02 <Fn> US of A, where brutal cartoons are fine, but oh mai pls no lewds
08:02 * ConfusionRift sighs.
08:02 <Fn> That is such a weird thing for an european
08:02 <ConfusionRift> Even "brutal" cartoons got a bad rep and became tame overtime.
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08:03 <Fn> Tom and jerry are over the top for my taste
08:03 <ConfusionRift> And that's one example.
08:04 <Fn> Slapstick in general is just weird for the parts I am from
08:04 <nyditch> Daria = 2nd best American cartoon
08:04 <nyditch> >_>
08:04 <Fn> It does have a audience now too in europe though
08:04 <ConfusionRift> ...and we're done here.
08:04 <Fn> Globalisation, yay
08:05 <nyditch> \o/
08:05 <Fn> Daria = Maud Pie (to me)
08:05 <Fn> The resemblance is striking
08:05 <nyditch> .... yeah.
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08:06 <nyditch> Watched it a bit over a year ago and was like, "How did this evade me for all thse years?!?!"
08:07 <nyditch> I guess Daria is a bit more morbid-minded, whereas Maud is single-minded.
08:07 <nyditch> or like.... morbidly realistic.
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08:09 <nyditch> but centered, knows who she is and who she isn't, doesn't need the approval of others.....
08:10 * Fn [annoyance intensifies]
08:11 <nyditch> ?
08:11 <Fn> Why the hek "custom" keyboards means putting some picture ans emojis on it and blargh....
08:11 <nyditch> Hah, keyboards......
08:12 <JackieSleep> I wonder if i payed a non-pony artist to draw pony art
08:12 <Fn> I wan't a keyboard where I can rearrange letters as I please gosh piping durnit
08:12 <Fn> On3 can say I am ...
08:12 * nyditch is still using an old HP keyboard gotten fro ma garage sale for a buck 10 years ago
08:12 <Fn> ...peeved.
08:13 <Fn> nyditch, imean androit on-screen keyboard
08:13 <nyditch> Ah, gotchya
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08:13 <Fn> It shouldn't be hard to make them customisable to the n-th degree
08:15 <nyditch> What bugs me is not having an easy way to change "Okay Google" to something like, "Hey computer...."
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08:23 <Jackie> Anyone here know how to use assembly?
08:24 <nyditch> Can't say that I do.....
08:25 <Jackie> or c/c plus plus
08:25 <RazorSharpFang> Jackie: For what purpose are you inquiring?
08:25 <Fruitnibbler> Oh mai
08:26 <Fruitnibbler> Whywould you want to torture yourself with assembly?
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08:26 <Jackie> it looks enticing for me
08:27 <Fruitnibbler> nyditch, there is a game out there that teaches you how to assembly
08:27 <RazorSharpFang> Assembly is a lot of trouble for not much gain.
08:27 <nyditch> Interesting
08:27 <RazorSharpFang> Modern compilers almost always write better code than people do.
08:27 <nyditch> Valve does optimization in assembly
08:27 <nyditch> Well, at least they did for the HL2 engine
08:28 <RazorSharpFang> Many companies do, when the time calls for it.
08:28 <nyditch> EA does not
08:28 <Jackie> getting myself pyasm
08:28 <RazorSharpFang> I mean, if you're writing your code is Python, clearly you don't care about execution speed so.... ;)
08:28 <Jackie> a module written in assembly
08:29 <Jackie> RazorSharpFang i'm thinking to build a small kernel written in python
08:30 <Jackie> pure python tho
08:30 <RazorSharpFang> An entire kernel, in python.
08:30 <RazorSharpFang> For your own custom operating system?
08:31 <Jackie> no, somewhat going to add a terminal
08:31 <RazorSharpFang> Are you sure you know what a kernel means?
08:33 <Jackie> yes, it's a piece of software that controls hardware and software
08:33 <RazorSharpFang> Right, so what hardware is this kernel going to run on?
08:35 <Jackie> typically on the ram and processor
08:36 <RazorSharpFang> I meant more specifically.
08:40 <Jackie> reason i want to build a kernel: it might have a huge impact in my coding career and it's awesome that i'm building something big
08:41 <RazorSharpFang> I don't think there's all that much to be gained from reinventing the wheel again.
08:41 <nyditch> Well I'm sure deeper understanding is to be gained
08:41 <RazorSharpFang> Perhaps, but you could just look through the linux source code
08:42 <RazorSharpFang> It's all right there open source
08:43 <Jackie> am i even allowed to make my own distro
08:43 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, it's all FREE, as in freedom
08:44 <nyditch> Kinesthetic learning is often much stronger than visual, also
08:45 <RazorSharpFang> You could make your own custom tailored operating system based on linux for whatever you want.
08:45 <RazorSharpFang> You could even make it look and feel just like windows. XD
08:45 <nyditch> lol
08:45 <RazorSharpFang> iirc there's ElementaryOS which tries its best to be a mac.
08:46 <nyditch> To make something just like Windows is like re-inventing the square wheel.
08:46 <nyditch> =P
08:47 <Jackie> well i like making an old fashioned gui style
08:48 <nyditch> Sweet. Beyond what I ever expect to do. XD
08:48 <Jackie> similar to 3.0
08:48 <RazorSharpFang> Well you can do that without needing to make a kernel
08:48 <RazorSharpFang> That's just stuff that sits atop with tkernel
08:50 <Jackie> well i use something like kernel.org and idk if i should get the oldest one
08:51 <Fruitnibbler> So nice to have 20ms ping
08:51 <Fruitnibbler> wifi I wuv u
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08:57 <Jackie> You will understand this
08:58 <Jackie> 98 > 95 > XP > 8 > 7 > 10
08:58 <nyditch> 2000 > 98
08:59 <Gladiolus> wait what's lal this
08:59 <Jackie> You're older when you use 3.0
08:59 <ConfusionRift> 2000 should be between 95 and XP. :P
08:59 <Jackie> Or even MS-DOS
08:59 <Gladiolus> 98SE is the superior 9X but, are you kidding me, XP > 7? lmao no
08:59 <Gladiolus> or is this a dating
08:59 <Gladiolus> no it can't be because 98 is first
09:00 <Jackie> No, 1.0 is first actually
09:00 <Gladiolus> In any case, I have a computer running 98SE beside be and given the choice of that or 7 for daily tasks dear god you're gonna hate your life if you pick 98
09:00 <Gladiolus> I mean in your silyl list.
09:01 <nyditch> Win 2k was most stable
09:01 <Gladiolus> It 100% was not until SP3 or 4.
09:01 <Jackie> Also
09:01 <nyditch> I'll accept that
09:01 <Gladiolus> Ya'll got rose-tinted glasses, as much as I love my vintage computers and stuff don't forget how crap it was to have thsoe old OSes as your only one.
09:01 <Jackie> Windows 7 is the only OS that didn't have a logo at startup
09:02 <Jackie> Nothing else
09:02 <Jackie> Just a progress up
09:02 <Gladiolus> uh, what
09:02 <Gladiolus> the startup for win7 is the windows logo
09:02 <Gladiolus> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/095XUlKnQSY/hqdefault.jpg
09:02 <nyditch> I downgraded from XP to 98SE once, long ago. I realized how much better XP was.
09:02 <Gladiolus> wat
09:03 <Jackie> When It was on construction
09:03 <Gladiolus> They all have their eras and sometimes I yearn for the simplicity of 98SE or something but then again, remember what simplicity entails.
09:03 <Gladiolus> "Ah crap I need the CD again to install a driver."
09:03 <nyditch> "Agh! I need to dig out a floppy drive?!
09:03 <ConfusionRift> Floppy 1 of 297.
09:03 <Gladiolus> viruses that literally just added a line to autoexec.bat lmao
09:03 <nyditch> ".... can't be a USB one either"
09:04 <Gladiolus> win2k forever and XP until at least SP2 were also /wide/ open/
09:04 <ConfusionRift> Gladiolus: Or just changed a sys32 file name slightly.
09:04 <Gladiolus> MSFT didn't really realize what 80% of the population online entailed until around 2003 and they kinda crapped themselves.
09:04 <Gladiolus> "Security?!? oh god how many systems did we just ship to old people."
09:05 <Jackie> https://mcintyre.itch.io/pc-building-simulator
09:05 <nyditch> Hah
09:05 <Fruitnibbler> Whoever named "KK Keyboard" didn't think it through...
09:05 <ConfusionRift> The same people who used CD trays as mug holders.
09:05 <Jackie> God itch.io is beating steam
09:05 <Gladiolus> i mean it took them until vista to really lock down root privlidges and even then it was still, to this day, not quite
09:05 <ConfusionRift> ...are you sure?
09:06 <nyditch> Still liking 7 quite a bit.
09:06 <Gladiolus> XP had no lock for root and often installed a secret passwordless admin account.
09:06 <Gladiolus> Win10 still has no unix-esque root privlidges seperation.
09:06 <Gladiolus> It's better, and it works in my opinion, but not quite the same if you really need ~secure~
09:06 <Fruitnibbler> Gladiolus XP also has a guest account backdoor
09:07 <nyditch> That was super handy for me as a PC tech
09:07 <Fruitnibbler> If you need secure, go Linux
09:07 <Gladiolus> yeah and it was handy for botnets too :p
09:07 <Night_Blitz> "backdoor"
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09:07 <Fruitnibbler> Or etter yet, learn Linux and mod your distro
09:07 <Night_Blitz> Guest and Administratpr accounts have been since forever
09:07 <Night_Blitz> you can lock the admin account with a password and disable it
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09:08 <Fruitnibbler> Viruses can't attack a system that is too customised at the very structure
09:08 <Jackie> Windows doesn't have anything like root etc
09:08 <Fruitnibbler> And Linux allows it
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09:08 <Gladiolus> not everyone can or needs to do that
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09:08 <Gladiolus> balance in all things
09:09 <Night_Blitz> you can have viruses attack very customized systems, see STUXNET
09:09 <Fruitnibbler> MS balance
09:09 <nyditch> I tend to be pretty chill about security stuff, just making sure to keep basic protection and use smart browsing + noscript to keep nasty stuff out.
09:09 <Fruitnibbler> Comming to your PCs with next forced update
09:09 <Night_Blitz> again, STUXNET was a government level attacb program that has been widely researched
09:09 <ConfusionRift> Blarg. That reminds me...
09:10 <nyditch> Vulnerable against a direct attack, sure, but I tend not to keep much important info on my computer. Nothing people would be particularly interested in.
09:10 <Fruitnibbler> Night_Blitz, if you have an access to a custom system, you can write a custom virus for it
09:10 <Gladiolus> write a virus for aliens with your powerbook
09:10 <Night_Blitz> the average user will be relatively safe if they keep everything up to date and pay some attention to where they browse to
09:11 <Fruitnibbler> Just don't let spies near your pc and you'll do just fine
09:11 <Gladiolus> aliens apparently used ppc systems, ibm confirmed for not of this earth
09:11 <Fruitnibbler> nyditch, best strategy
09:11 <nyditch> NoScript I attribute to keeping me safe when I do make a mistake going somewhere. If I don't specifically allow it, it doesn't do it's thing.
09:11 <Fruitnibbler> Just keep sensitive stuff offline and encrypted
09:12 <Night_Blitz> Fruitnibbler: technically, every system and virus are custom, there is no such thing as a standard virus
09:13 <ConfusionRift> I forgot Win 7 was running on life support at the moment... kinda.
09:13 <Fruitnibbler> Night_Blitz, relative to most popular OSes, there are viruses that are attacking indiscriminantly
09:13 <Gladiolus> i'm sure they is 'standard' malware, liek batnet tools for windows
09:13 <Gladiolus> botnets
09:13 <Fruitnibbler> STUXNET ran only on the types on that particular powerplant
09:13 <Fruitnibbler> It was very specific
09:14 <Gladiolus> stuxnet is an amazing feat and kinda scary
09:14 <Night_Blitz> Fruitnibbler: because they are either different variants of the same family or complwte rewrites for another platform
09:14 <Gladiolus> you name it, they can do it- and probably already did.
09:14 <Fruitnibbler> A trojan for winders sill infect any PC
09:14 <Fruitnibbler> Will*
09:14 <Gladiolus> the code for killing the internet itself is probably sitting on some nsa server somewhere
09:14 <Gladiolus> or maybe some chinese server
09:14 <Night_Blitz> STUXNET was very specific on what it wanted before it activated
09:14 <Night_Blitz> Gladiolus: just take down the internet exchanges and you're effectively done
09:14 <ConfusionRift> "The code to kill the Internet"... okay.
09:15 <Gladiolus> well yeah exactly, something that could manage to do that in such a way that the backups would be unusable
09:15 <Fruitnibbler> Hmm, If I'd be a hacker, those codes would be my holy grail
09:15 <Night_Blitz> Back in the days during the Spamhaus DDOS, the backbone eas close to saturation at some links
09:15 * Schism rolls over to Heartbreak, and offers some sushi with dragonfish roe and eel sauce.
09:15 <nyditch> Ya'll should read the short story, "When Sysadmins Ruled The Earth"
09:15 * Heartbreak noms!
09:15 <Fruitnibbler> Imagine the powwer to ahut down innenets
09:15 <Gladiolus> well i'll bet anything that code exists somewhere, the biological warfare of cyberwar
09:16 * Heartbreak starts booping Schism!
09:16 * Schism wahs! and spills his tea a little.
09:16 * Gladiolus boops Heartbreak!
09:16 <Jackie> Hmm
09:16 <Heartbreak> Gaaaaah! *cough coughs!*
09:16 <ConfusionRift> I thought the Internet was a communications medium, but okay.
09:16 <Jackie> I'm a bit of an sysadmin
09:17 <Fruitnibbler> Celestia is to sysadmin us all!
09:17 <nyditch> An excerpt I particularly like.....
09:17 <nyditch> "Whatever had hit Queen Kong’s workplace—power failure, worms, another quake—she had fixed it. He snorted when he saw that they’d replaced the O’s in the Google logo with little planet Earths with mushroom clouds rising from them."
09:17 * Gladiolus boop boops Heartbreak!
09:17 * Heartbreak blows her nose on a tissue.
09:18 <Gladiolus> The internet is a communications medium, and one based on physical interlinkings.
09:18 <Heartbreak> Soooooooooo much mucus...
09:18 <Gladiolus> It ultimately wouldn't be hard to at least temporary shut the thing down if you're a major government and also want to commit economic suicide.
09:18 <Fruitnibbler> Hmm. What if internet will produce a scentient AI? Would it try and destroy the "interner killswitch codes" out of rational self-preservation?
09:18 <Gladiolus> Maybe it already did....
09:18 <Gladiolus> owo
09:19 <nyditch> One thing's for sure, though. People would find workarounds.
09:19 <Fruitnibbler> I was to chat with that AI
09:19 <Heartbreak> Indeed.
09:19 <Fruitnibbler> Want*
09:19 * Heartbreak pies nyditch.
09:19 <Fruitnibbler> Durn autocorrect
09:20 <ConfusionRift> Machines can work fine on their own, but they will always be a middleman.
09:20 <Gladiolus> They would, but it would take those people time.
09:20 <Gladiolus> The thing is though, if a government has gone this far?
09:20 <Gladiolus> It's probably, y'know, world war 3.
09:20 <Fruitnibbler> I also misspelled sentient I think
09:20 <ConfusionRift> *there will
09:20 <nyditch> *pie dripping down face* Some would figure it out quick. It would be some time before becoming widespread.
09:20 <Fruitnibbler> Scentient is like aware of the smells.... I think
09:21 <Fruitnibbler> Or just smelly
09:21 <Gladiolus> because blowing up the internet is economic suicide for everyone at once so nobody is going to pull that unless they're gonna follow up with ~other things~
09:21 <ConfusionRift> We have always been self-reliant. I don't see how all this has no workaround. In any case, it's just unneeded panic talk.
09:21 <Gladiolus> I'm not saying it's gonna happen now :p
09:22 <Gladiolus> I'd say if it did we'd be both more boned than you think yet not totally boned.
09:22 <Gladiolus> Mostly boned.
09:22 <ConfusionRift> It may not even happen at all.
09:22 <Gladiolus> I didn't say it would.
09:22 <Fruitnibbler> Gladiolus is in a positive mood today .~
09:22 <Gladiolus> Although with China and America constantly escalating against eachother who even knows.
09:22 <Gladiolus> I'm a political scientist, cynicism is in my blood and my cold, metal, heart.
09:22 <ConfusionRift> Bah.
09:22 <nyditch> I was in a 401k meeting at work once. Somebody asked, "What if the stock market crashes? Like, completely, and all of the mutual funds are worth nothing." The speaker for the meeting said, "Well then money is the least of your concerns. Stock up on food and guns."
09:22 <Gladiolus> It's the only field in the world where you want most of all to be proven wrong.
09:23 <Fruitnibbler> Preppers ain't wrong in some ways
09:23 <ConfusionRift> A reversing reversal... of course. Anyways, food time.
09:23 <nyditch> Bed time for me
09:23 <Fruitnibbler> I mean, if not war, at least they are set in case of natural disasters
09:24 <Gladiolus> Nuclear preppers are hilarious.
09:24 <Fruitnibbler> That is worth something
09:24 <Gladiolus> Protip: You don't want to survive a nuclear war.
09:24 <Gladiolus> Move to a blast zone, take the easy way out.
09:24 <nyditch> Isn't it just like Fallout though? XD
09:24 <Fruitnibbler> NO!
09:24 <Fruitnibbler> I will die on my terms!
09:24 <Gladiolus> Maybe in a hundred years but not right after, that won't be fun.
09:25 <Jackie> Is there a way to make low specs on a unity game?
09:25 <Jackie> Like command line wise
09:25 <Gladiolus> Although if it's limited scale you could just get to the mountains or some spots where the climate doesn't drag fallout over you and enjoy the good life.
09:25 <nyditch> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTbYUd1jUc4
09:25 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
09:25 <Fruitnibbler> There is, Jackie, but I forgot
09:25 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Are Violent Video Games Preparing Kids For The Apocalypse?
09:25 <Fruitnibbler> Sowwy
09:26 * Fruitnibbler applies Merkel pony plush to Gladiolus
09:26 <Gladiolus> Just use low res models and limit your polygon count I guess.
09:26 <Gladiolus> wait that's both the same thing
09:26 <Gladiolus> :p
09:26 * Gladiolus cuddles it!
09:26 <Gladiolus> I wonder who will succeed her.
09:26 <Gladiolus> Nobody as good, that's impossible.
09:27 <Gladiolus> Thatcher? Get out, there's only one true Iron Lady
09:27 <Gladiolus> <3 <3 <3
09:27 <Fruitnibbler> Polygon count, texture depth and sampling, texture resolution
09:27 <Fruitnibbler> Those three can be reduced in unity
09:27 <Gladiolus> static lightmaps only
09:27 <nyditch> Okey doke, laterfolks
09:27 <Jackie> Like make the textures crappy looking
09:28 * nyditch climbs into the loft to sleep
09:28 * Gladiolus gives nyditch a blanket.
09:28 <Gladiolus> Sleep good!
09:28 <Fruitnibbler> Gladiolus, Martin Schulz looks like the lead so far
09:28 <nyditch> Nainai
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09:30 <Fruitnibbler> Jackie, sampling doesn't make textures crappy, just reduces the number of types used (it shows you different texture resolutions at different distances from an object)
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09:30 <Fruitnibbler> Lower sampling means you'll ses more big pixels that will disappear as you come closer
09:30 <Fruitnibbler> See*
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09:51 * Finwe noms on Gladiolus.
09:52 * Gladiolus enjoys noms
09:53 * Schism waits patiently for Heartbreak to return, hovering above the door. o3o
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10:01 * ConfusionRift hovers Schism towards Heartbreak.
10:01 * Heartbreak dodges!
10:01 * Schism flops down upon Heartbreak! In chibiling form, though, so as not to hurt. Offers a cup of serendipitea.
10:02 * Gladiolus throws mangoes at Heartbreak
10:03 <Heartbreak> Oooo! Mangoes.
10:06 <Gladiolus> o guys! new hugbat art!
10:06 <Gladiolus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/220401350821806081/293626948347756544/59.png
10:09 * ConfusionRift yawns and crashes asleep.
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10:12 <Electron> Yay!
10:13 <Lumindia> o 3o
10:13 * Lumindia applies hugs to the hugbat
10:13 * Gladiolus hugs Lumindia!
10:15 *** Gladiolus is now known as batp0ny
10:16 <batp0ny> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkEXjD1znAU
10:16 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Tiberian Sun Soundtrack - Scouting
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10:21 *** batp0ny is now known as Colt-Gladi
10:28 <Heartbreak> Colt-Gladi: Did you do that?
10:28 <Colt-Gladi> nope
10:28 <Colt-Gladi> unicoding unicorn
10:28 <Colt-Gladi> http://unicodingunicorn.tumblr.com/
10:37 * Schism also offers Heartbreak a pizza... with pineapple on it. This is clearly the best topping for pizza.
10:37 <Heartbreak> ... But... I -like- pineapple on pizza...
10:37 * Schism nods, "Like I said!" It also has fake ham.
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10:51 <Heartbreak> Oooooo.
10:51 <Heartbreak> Schism: My stomach just made a noise like a creeking door.
10:55 <Schism> Clearly, it wants food inside.
11:13 <Fruitnibbler> I just have seen "key remapper for android"
11:13 <Fruitnibbler> I am done with humanity
11:14 <Fruitnibbler> Remapper for a virtual on-screen keyboard...
11:14 <Fruitnibbler> What next? Zoom assist?
11:15 <Fruitnibbler> Maybe volume shortcut button app?
11:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #802 [ http://tinyurl.com/lmtyv6y ]
11:22 <Fruitnibbler> All I need is a durn keyboard where I can set any symbol at any screen spaec! How hard can that be?
11:29 <Braixen> very
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12:10 <Cepheid> Morning loonies.
12:18 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Starlight Glimmer Music: A Symphony Of Two - Introspections [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/kktfgay ]
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12:25 <Fruitnibbler> Moin moin, Bursche.
12:26 <Fruitnibbler> Cepheid why is it impossiburu for andro devs to make a keyboard that /lacks/ a preset
12:27 <Fruitnibbler> Just a customisable grid where you can shove any symbol from any table
12:27 <Cepheid> Hell if I know.
12:27 <Fruitnibbler> Like I am wanting something that has /less/ in it actually
12:28 <Fruitnibbler> I wish I could code for android
12:28 <Fruitnibbler> But then again my device is not rooted, so meh
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12:42 <Cepheid> Don't need root to do Android dev.
12:43 <Cepheid> You lose out on some features without rooting, sure, but you can still develop applications and keyboard stuff.
12:47 <Fruitnibbler> I need a blank keyboard layout with customisable keys from any keymap table, +save that layout for use +transition method
12:47 <Fruitnibbler> Nothing else
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12:57 <Cepheid> So essentially a typical keyboard layout, but in the configuration, you can configure each key to have a unique appearance and send a specific key code of your choosing?
12:57 <Fruitnibbler> Yes
12:58 <Fruitnibbler> Most I tried either have a fixed qwerty azerty qwertz layouts...
12:59 <Fruitnibbler> Or if they allow for any key bind, but then the character set for those is limited to a rather small set
12:59 <Fruitnibbler> I want to create a charset layout for french I
13:00 <Fruitnibbler> IPA*
13:00 <Fruitnibbler> I have an IPA keyboard but poking a key for a cascade menu every time to type gets old pretty fast
13:01 <Cepheid> Heh.
13:02 <Fruitnibbler> I am learning french through songs, by writing an IPA transcription for them
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13:13 <Cepheid> Well, if I ever find the time in my busy schedule to look into it(Speak to me after April 24th or so), I'll look into it.
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13:26 <Jackie|Sleep> Night
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13:43 <DARK> hello
13:44 <Braixen> hi
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13:51 <Schism> How to tear down the Equestrian government: buy Luna, Cadence, Shining Armor, Twilight, Celestia and many of the others in the bureaucracy a set of roller skates.
13:54 <Fruitnibbler> Cepheid, you don't need to, I was venting for the most part
13:55 <Cepheid> Ah, okie.
13:56 * Schism offers FruitNibbler some yogurt raisins, and Cepheid some sriracha popcorn.
13:56 <Fruitnibbler> I wish FrankieNL would be here too
13:56 <Fruitnibbler> He could help me with that one
13:56 <Fruitnibbler> He is an Android dev after all
14:06 <Cepheid> Tutorial is done and was quick, yay.
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14:21 <Librarian> morning
14:22 <Librarian> had to get up early
14:23 <Electron> Evening.
14:25 <Librarian> im going to renovate my spanish passport
14:25 <Librarian> owo
14:25 <Librarian> lotsa waiting
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14:29 <Schism> "A fairly large people apparently thought it was your birthday, and decided to get you drunk as a kitten. Wait, scratch that. Drunk and a kitten."
14:31 <Librarian> drunk kitty!
14:32 <Schism> Librarian: There's a particular mode slash method in this game where your active helper is a Black Cat. It does all sorts of useful things! Things like distracting you from using skills with its cute antics, or rubbing up against you to siphon your MP, or batting dropped items down drainpipes.
14:33 <Librarian> i aproove
14:33 <Schism> Even just /getting/ the Black Kitten (which turns into the Cat) results in the player not being able to drink anything else on that day. And the helper needs to remain active throughout the /whole/ run.
14:35 <Schism> http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Black_Cat
14:36 <Cepheid> I literally have no idea what these two sub-questions are asking, and I lack time to figure it out, so... *Uses answers he assumes are correct.*
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14:38 * Schism provides VinylScratch with a cup of dragon tea.
14:39 * VinylScratch sips and rawrs!
14:40 <Librarian> by the way
14:40 <Librarian> wanna be charcters in my book?
14:40 <Librarian> ii could use the extra cast
14:40 * Schism is already a real character! But wonders what Librarian means.
14:41 <VinylScratch> Suuuure
14:41 <Librarian> i got an offer of sorts to write a book and see if i get a contract
14:41 <Librarian> so im finishing one of my histories
14:41 * Cepheid does quick research for those questions, was actually right, it seems.
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14:42 <Librarian> im asking if you would like to be in it, as the equivalent of npc in a game
14:42 <Librarian> to add flavor
14:42 <Schism> Ah, no thank you.
14:42 <Librarian> owo
14:43 <Librarian> anyone interested?
14:45 <Twilight`Sparkle> I'm confused as to how it would work.
14:45 <Librarian> leeme explain
14:46 <Librarian> you strike me as the owner of an item shop, so i could add you as one+
14:47 <Librarian> its easier than making charcters from the start to use an existing personality
14:47 <Twilight`Sparkle> I mean, you can base personalities of characters off of real people...
14:47 <Twilight`Sparkle> that's a thing people do.
14:48 <Librarian> yep, but its nicer to ask first
14:48 <Librarian> or so i belive anyway
14:48 <Twilight`Sparkle> Sure, base a dude off me if you like. Anyway. Time for work.
14:48 <VinylScratch> Well, TBH The best you can really hope for in a book is a reasonable facimile.
14:49 <Librarian> the thelema one came out the same
14:49 <Librarian> the finwe one too owo
14:50 <Librarian> i think i must go to my passport thing, see ya later
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14:52 * Cepheid stretches and yawns. Exhausted as he didn't sleep well last night.
14:52 <LisaSquarePants> helloo :D
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15:01 <Cepheid> I want to sleep.
15:01 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid: sleep aid then sleep?
15:03 * Sleeping_Nightmares blankets on Cepheid
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15:06 <Cepheid> I'm going to do that in a few hours, yes.
15:06 <Cepheid> Unfortunately I am stuck at school until psychology class passes.
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15:10 <Cepheid> But yes, when I get home, I'm going to sleep, and after I wake up, finish the last of my stats assignment.
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15:31 <Cepheid> I'm gonna wander off and get some food.
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15:42 <SaultSteMarie> i should go do laundry and then maybe go somewhere
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15:54 * Schism cannot finish spaghetti! He sells the rest to a pile of batling fluff for 32 meat.
15:58 * Filly_Nightmares noms noms!
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16:05 <SaultSteMarie> there's this like one brand of jarred pasta sauce
16:05 <SaultSteMarie> called Rao's
16:05 <SaultSteMarie> and I love it so much
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16:09 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/16v2eojZ_l8 Schism.
16:09 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
16:09 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about The Most Unsatisfying Video in the World ever made
16:09 * Schism starts a-twitching at the video. "Why would you."
16:10 <Schism> Hah.
16:10 <Cepheid> It gets worse for those who are picky about things being done right, even simple things.
16:11 <Schism> I see. @_@;
16:11 <SaultSteMarie> how is the world going to explain mid-2010s humor to its children
16:11 <Schism> That video is like the antithesis of OCD.
16:11 <Cepheid> "Meet me outside howbowdat!?"
16:11 <Cepheid> That's how, SaultSteMarie.
16:12 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Volume 13 Cover Revealed! [ http://tinyurl.com/k2nb6sl ]
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16:16 * Cepheid wonders if Schism is still sane after that video.
16:16 <SaultSteMarie> SpottieOttieDopaliscious is such a good song
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16:19 <Schism> Oh, I'm still fine. And what's this 'still' thing?
16:20 <Cepheid> I presume all people are sane until proven otherwise.
16:20 <Schism> I'd thought that ship had set sail long ago.
16:21 <Cepheid> Nah.
16:21 * Schism shrugs. "Anyhow, evidently there's this 'most satisfying video' meme going around?"
16:21 <SaultSteMarie> yeah but that was years ago wasn't it
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16:23 <Schism> Not sure, it certainly seems to be ongoing.
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16:23 * Cepheid gets started on roguelike engine while waiting for psych class.
16:23 <Cepheid> I need something to keep me awake, so..
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16:26 <SaultSteMarie> Cepheid, challenge mode: write something that'll work on a 486 8]
16:26 <SaultSteMarie> (extreme challenge mode: write something that'll work on a PC-88)
16:27 <SaultSteMarie> ... i wonder what kind of PC-98 homebrew scene there is now this suddenly sounds appealing to me.
16:28 <Schism> Considering, I wouldn't be surprised if there's still a significant homebrew scene out there.
16:33 * Cepheid can make it run on a 486. Won't, since that's silly.
16:33 <Cepheid> Though I do have to decide between OpenGL or Software rendering.
16:34 <Cepheid> Pros and cons of software: Pros, it runs on practically anything. Cons, it's slow, especially for large window sizes.
16:35 <Cepheid> Pros and cons of OpenGL: Pros, it's fast. Cons: May not be supported by all hardware. I'd stick to OpenGL 2.1 at a maximum to ensure support.
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16:37 <Cepheid> In either case, the difficulty of rendering a 2-bit bitmap isn't all that difficult, so supporting colored text on top of colored squares is easy in either case. Just the approach is different.
16:38 <Cepheid> Then again, nothing says I can't do both approaches, just do one now, and then write the other one at a later date. Just write the core to support swapping out the renderers with ease.
16:39 <Cepheid> Use an abstraction of the screen for internal stuff. Game writes to a buffer of glyphs, which are just individual characters with associated fore/background colours and any other attributes I decide to implement. Renderer looks at this text buffer and does appropriate stuff to draw it out.
16:40 <Cepheid> There'd also have to be an abstraction of input events. The game doesn't see individual keys, but rather named events like "MoveNorth", "MoveEast", "OpenInventory" and such.
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16:43 <Cepheid> Only problem with this approach is making bindings is a pain in the rear.
16:49 <Cepheid> Almost time for lecture. Be back later.
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16:57 * Schism offers Heartbreak one of these! http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Cuppa_Insani_tea
17:00 * Filly_Nightmares licks Schism.
17:00 <Schism> Though there's no creativi-tea. http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Specifici_Tea
17:01 * Schism boops Filly_Nightmares with a marshmallow! and goes to nap for a little.
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17:08 <LunaticHell> goooooooood morning, equestria
17:10 * Schism flops aside LunaticHell, and pokes him during a sword except inappropriate prepositions. He also curls over, through some blankets among form a burrito-esque shape.
17:10 <LunaticHell> huh...ok o. o
17:10 <Schism> ( http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Sword_behind_inappropriate_prepositions )
17:12 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Apple Blossoms / Top Mares / Shades 19 / Cherry 1:21 / Star Mares 3.3.11 / Healing / Temple 17 / Pinkie 4 [ http://tinyurl.com/kcmljls ]
17:12 <LunaticHell> ok
17:13 <LunaticHell> Welp, today I continue my search for a pony teamspeak to poni poni.
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17:14 <Braixen> hi NossyRyder
17:14 <NossyRyder> Hello.
17:15 <Schism> LunaticHell: There is also this. http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Staph_of_homophones
17:16 <LunaticHell> neat
17:16 <Schism> Yes.
17:16 <LunaticHell> hello NoseRycer and Braxen
17:16 <LunaticHell> pardon, I meant NoseRyder
17:17 * Schism feeds LunaticHell some mushroom ravioli with a nice tomato sauce and parmesan cheese, as well as a glass of sweet iced lemon tea.
17:17 <LunaticHell> what kind of mushrooms?
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17:17 <LunaticHell> hi matt
17:18 <Schism> Portobello, in this regard.
17:18 <matttheshadowman> hey
17:18 <LunaticHell> Good, if it was anything bigger, there'd be no room in the mush.
17:19 <LunaticHell> How do you do, matt?
17:20 <matttheshadowman> Ok I guess, trying to sort out my garbage trash that is my internet
17:20 <matttheshadowman> How are you LunaticHell?
17:21 <LunaticHell> A bit drunk trying to find a fun pony voice chat, failing.
17:21 <LunaticHell> I guess the tl;dr would be "same old"
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17:24 <NossyRyder> !link https://imgur.com/a/HPK9O
17:24 <DerpyBot> Twilight says the library only has pictures from e621 and derpibooru, videos from youtube and books from google docs.
17:24 * NossyRyder noms LunaticHell.
17:24 <NossyRyder> I made this.
17:25 <LunaticHell> it looks better than the default
17:25 <LunaticHell> good job, I still don't think it'll save the animation
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18:18 <Pony_56350> http://i.imgur.com/qen3Kfr.jpg A-MEI-ZING
18:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: GalaCon 2017 Announces First Community Guest [ http://tinyurl.com/l6c5ybn ]
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18:52 <Librarian> chubby mei is bae owo
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18:53 <Librarian> i knew a dr generic once
18:54 <Librarian> he ran for president of mexico
18:55 <DashedRainbows> Afternoon pones
18:59 * Tempo waves
19:01 * DashedRainbows waves back
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19:06 <Sour_Sweet> I need sad pony songs ;-(
19:06 <Librarian> andromeda ended up being bad owo
19:06 <Librarian> shame
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19:14 <Electron> Howdy.
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19:19 <Electron> Sour_Sweet, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5gxlrnn5LQ
19:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Another Page Revealed from Friendship is Magic #52 [ http://tinyurl.com/myj6e5c ]
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19:22 <Sour_Sweet> Reminds me I need an alternative YT client for my phone
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19:29 <Cepheid> Psych lecture was about as expected.
19:29 <Cepheid> "Most of you did okay. Those of you not here today did horribly and I don't know how or why, especially given I gave hints about questions in *OTHER* questions."
19:30 <Cepheid> 30% of the class failed the second midterm. 96 students.
19:42 <Librarian> it most be bad luck for boware to put out a bad game at the same time as zelda and horizon
19:43 <Librarian> considering mass effect was good
19:44 <Sour_Sweet> That happens when you outsource work to a studio that never worked on a project of that scale
19:45 <Librarian> they outsorced it?
19:45 <Sour_Sweet> Plus a lack of quality control, optimistic schedules ...
19:45 <Librarian> makes sense
19:48 <Electron> Plus pushing some sort of ideology.
19:49 <Sour_Sweet> My source on that would be TotalBiscuit. He mentioned it on a stream or the co-optional podcast iirc
19:50 <Sour_Sweet> http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spng4a
19:50 <Sour_Sweet> there we go
19:51 <Sour_Sweet> Welcome to the so called AAA gaming industry aka We take all your money in advance and screw you
19:51 <Sour_Sweet> I get angry if I think about what they did to Mirrors Edge
19:52 <Cepheid> I really can't complain. I got Andromeda for free.
19:52 <Sour_Sweet> Such a promising IP and they open worlded it.
19:52 <Sour_Sweet> Cepheid: How comes?
19:53 <Cepheid> Contact within EA/Bioware.
19:55 <Cepheid> Basically they offered. I accepted. *Shrugs*
19:56 * Colt-Gladi appears
19:56 <Colt-Gladi> you lucky nerd
19:57 <Colt-Gladi> anyway who's sayind andromeda is.. like, legit 'bad'?
19:57 <Colt-Gladi> It has some asinine problems because Bioware can't make a game without them since 2010, but it's not 'bad'.
19:57 <Colt-Gladi> a solid B- of a video game
19:57 <Cepheid> A lot of people. I think the issues stem from a vocal minority who don't like the idea of EWW GIRLS WORKING ON GAMES.
19:57 <Colt-Gladi> those nerds?
19:58 <Cepheid> They're in an uproar over that fact, and making a big fuss about it.
19:58 <Colt-Gladi> The facial animation problems are a legit major problem that ruins some scenes but it doesn't ruin the entire game.
19:58 <Colt-Gladi> why can't people chill out
19:58 <Cepheid> Which leads to a lot of negative opinions about it. Word gets around of those opinions, and yeah. People just assume.
19:58 <Cepheid> Colt-Gladi: Because EWW! Girl cooties in my game!
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19:59 <Colt-Gladi> There is the mysterious case of a cosplayer with no experience saying she was a lead dev.
19:59 <Colt-Gladi> Which Bioware said she wasn't.
19:59 <Colt-Gladi> So somebody is lying?
19:59 <Cepheid> Looks that way.
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19:59 <Colt-Gladi> The lead dev for facial animation too so naturally people jumped on it, and stupid stupid stupid people /threatened/ her over it.
19:59 <Colt-Gladi> what's wrong with you people settle down
20:00 <Cepheid> Literally though, while the facial animations are an issue for some, the majority of the bad press has literally to do with "A woman worked on this game." Nothing more, nothing less. It's all I've been seeing down at the core of all these complaints.
20:01 <Colt-Gladi> Regardless, my personal 6 hour gameplay opinion is "It's good but not full price good."
20:01 <Colt-Gladi> EA offers a trial, which they should be given credit for because who else in the industry does?
20:01 <Cepheid> The idea that a woman worked on this game is so traumatizing to some people they're willing to ruin it for everyone else, apparently.
20:01 <Colt-Gladi> So go play the trial and see if you like it.
20:01 <Colt-Gladi> yeah gamergate nerds are horrifying
20:01 <Sour_Sweet> The footage of the game I've seen didn't very impressive. Nothing to do with the people working on it
20:02 <Sour_Sweet> ... look ..*
20:02 <Cepheid> I think the remainder of it is that aside from the world, it doesn't have a tie in with the original series.
20:02 <Colt-Gladi> Visually it both is and isn't impressive.
20:03 <Cepheid> I think people were expecting like, a direct sequel to the original Mass Effect series.
20:03 <Colt-Gladi> It's not set in the same galaxy either, the only real tie in is the "pulp sci fi" setting.
20:03 <Colt-Gladi> Which I am perfectly fine with.
20:03 <Colt-Gladi> Me3 blew it all up on purpose because Bioware didn't want 8000 sequels.
20:04 <Colt-Gladi> Funny, Planet of the Apes tried the same thing.
20:04 <Cepheid> Agreed.
20:05 <Cepheid> Basically, with Andromeda, we're back to Mass Effect 1 quality. Pretty sure that game had it's fill of problems when it was released.
20:05 <Colt-Gladi> So again, from a critical perspective- pretty good idea, solid but not perfect. B-
20:05 <Colt-Gladi> I was honestly /astounded/ by the sound design if anything.
20:06 <Colt-Gladi> Which is an odd point to bring up but it's very good. "Cinimatic" if I can throw in a dumb term
20:06 <Colt-Gladi> cimeatic
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20:09 <Sour_Sweet> Colt-Gladi: Cinematic sound? So does it have a low sample rate? 6_9
20:10 <Sour_Sweet> Name changes are uncool
20:10 <Sour_Sweet> The one time I click a name instead of hitting tab :P
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20:11 <Sour_Sweet> Cinematic has become a synonym for black bars and FPS locks for me..
20:12 <Gladiolus> I just mean like, it sounds really good. Lots of subtle background sounds, very good echo and reverb.
20:13 <Gladiolus> Not the usual video-gamey lack of uh, that sort of thing, because it's obviously more difficult to make proper metal echoing working in a video game versus a sound stage
20:13 <Fruitnibbler> Cynematic ==30fps
20:14 <Fruitnibbler> 10/10 rating from IGN "bestest framerate"
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20:15 <Gladiolus> pfff
20:18 <Cepheid> Strangely, all the complaining of the game "being bad" all started immediately around the time the game was due to release. Which is kind of odd, given that people have had access to a trial of it, and when *THAT* was out and about, no one complained. Other than wacky, inflatable, flailing-arm balloon man facial work.
20:20 <Sour_Sweet> To my understanding the concerns started with a bad trailer
20:20 <Gladiolus> lmao people
20:20 <Gladiolus> EA is one of few people to give out a trial and you won't use it
20:20 <Gladiolus> man i hate this industry sometimes
20:21 <Gladiolus> EA can do no good, Valve can do no wrong, everyone is paid off.
20:21 <Cepheid> Ah, the wonders of bias.
20:22 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Baby Flurry Heart’s Heartfelt Scrapbook Episode 6 - Hearth's Warming Eve [ http://tinyurl.com/lr2ayqo ]
20:22 <Cepheid> But what I meant more of is that people who have access to the trial haven't really said anything negative or positive about the game, which is suspicious given that now all of a sudden there's tons of negativity about it. So yeah. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I'm under the impression that someone or some people are coordinating an effort to ruin the game for others.
20:22 <Sour_Sweet> I'm all in favor of demos and refunds
20:23 <Sour_Sweet> And actually EA has been a lot better at that
20:23 <Sour_Sweet> Historically anyway
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20:25 <Sour_Sweet> That being said outside of customer support and support for TOTP instead of proprietary crap I can't see how Origin is anywhere near the quallity of Steam
20:25 <Sour_Sweet> Like my CnC Collection shipped broken installations
20:25 <Sour_Sweet> They simply forgot to include the registry entries in their installer so you couldn't play multiplayer
20:25 <Cepheid> My experience with Origin has been about as expected. Same as Steam. But meh.
20:26 <Cepheid> In any case, again, regarding Andromeda, whether good or bad I can't really complain. Got it for free. Actually was a bit of a surprise, as the contact made it sound like it'd just be a 50% off coupon when ordering. Lo and behold, I submit the key and the game is just straight up added to my collection.
20:27 <Gladiolus> Origin offered refunds first. I've had no complaints with it.
20:27 <Gladiolus> It's worse than steam due to a worse library and not just /being/ steam, but w/e
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20:27 <Sour_Sweet> Well Steam makes a lot of things easy
20:28 <Sour_Sweet> Migrating games between machines for example
20:28 <Sour_Sweet> (If you know what you're doing anyway)
20:28 <Gladiolus> That's easy with Origin too, I've done it.
20:28 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'ma head off. I am exhausted, I need sleep.
20:28 <Sour_Sweet> It's been some time since I've used Origin for extensive amounts of time
20:28 <Cepheid> I've been awake since 6 AM with only a couple hours of sleep.
20:28 <Sour_Sweet> Back then it was a mess
20:29 <Sour_Sweet> Because again registry entries were nor preserved
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20:29 <Sour_Sweet> not*
20:30 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o
20:31 <Sour_Sweet> For being DRM Steamworks is also very unintrusive. The only complaint I had with it was that it required you to explicitly go into offline mode because otherwise session tokens for games might not be available
20:31 <Sour_Sweet> I remember how messed up Origin's first EULA was
20:33 <Sour_Sweet> They got a lot of flak for that and I believe a lot of people still have that image of Origin
20:33 <Sour_Sweet> That and EA being the worst anyway :P
20:33 <Gladiolus> EA is bad but they deserve a few points, like, again, the 10 hour trial man.
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20:33 <Gladiolus> Who the heck offers anything close to that? PRe release too.
20:34 <Fruitnibbler> ЕА is evil
20:34 <Sour_Sweet> Yeah I already said they're better at that
20:35 <Gladiolus> yes well
20:35 * Gladiolus butts around.
20:35 <Gladiolus> EA is evil and so are the rest.
20:35 <Gladiolus> ubisoft is the worst atm imo
20:35 <Sour_Sweet> Evil is good <3
20:35 <Gladiolus> And Valve needs to catch more flak for how bad greenlight is/was and for not actually making games now.
20:35 <Sour_Sweet> But does it have radio towers?
20:35 <Gladiolus> does what
20:36 <Fruitnibbler> Valve is not obliged to make gaems
20:36 <Sour_Sweet> VALVe can buck off for not releasing HL3
20:36 <Fruitnibbler> They will release it...
20:36 <Fruitnibbler> In year 3000
20:36 <Gladiolus> Valve is not obligated to do anything but they are supposedly a games company.
20:37 <Fruitnibbler> Only appropriate date
20:37 <Gladiolus> they've become like, video game microsoft.
20:37 <Sour_Sweet> As far as Greenlight goes I don't really care. They should remove obvious stolen content and stuff that doesn't work. Outside of that I actually like a free marketplace
20:37 <Gladiolus> Everyone has steam, so they don't have to actually /do/ anything.
20:37 <Fruitnibbler> Yip
20:37 <Fruitnibbler> I would not do things either
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20:37 <Sour_Sweet> I mean their employees must be doing something
20:38 <Sour_Sweet> They have quite a few :P
20:38 <Sour_Sweet> Approving CS:GO skins is a lot of work
20:38 <Sour_Sweet> </sarcasm>
20:38 <Fruitnibbler> Also if you know how valve works internally, you'd realise that they are not in a hurry
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20:39 <Gladiolus> I do know how valve works internally.
20:39 <Fruitnibbler> Sour_Sweet the popular sarcsm sign is .~
20:39 <Gladiolus> IT does not appear to be working but they have enough money rolling in to allow it
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20:39 <Fruitnibbler> That's what you think
20:40 <Sour_Sweet> All Gabe is bathing in money all day. Someone needs to keep all the money warm :P
20:40 <Fruitnibbler> They may be rolling in munies /because/ of the way the are set up
20:40 <Gladiolus> something can be good once and bad later
20:40 <Gladiolus> the monies means none of the teams or people have a heavy push to actually /make/ anything
20:41 <Sour_Sweet> Well Steam hasn't really changed all that much. I still prefer it over any other platform
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20:42 <Sour_Sweet> And I love how they brand cheaters
20:42 <Sour_Sweet> Makes them more money too. Win - Win :P
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20:55 <Gladiolus> i don't even get mad at cheaters that buy the gaem several times
20:55 <Gladiolus> like, what, are you kidding me how are you that pathetic.
20:56 <Gladiolus> i'll take a loss if it means you have to pay 30 dollars for it :p
20:58 <VinylScratch> it's more irritating on Overwatch anyway
20:58 <Gladiolus> i have yet to see a hacker in ow and i have 200 hours
21:00 <VinylScratch> Not really hackers, just smurfs who get multiple accounts
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21:07 <Fruitnibbler> Gladiolus low fov aim autocorrect would be hard to detect anyhow
21:07 <Fruitnibbler> Map hacks can be plain impossible to detect at all
21:07 <Fruitnibbler> And then there are macros
21:09 <Librarian> owo
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22:11 <Starwatcher> hi everypony
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22:41 <Finwe> o3o
22:41 <Finwe> Good evening, everypony.
22:44 * Finwe hats on a Gladiolus.
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22:46 <SleepFrame> Evening
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23:45 <LunaticHell> Holy damn, Rockefeller is dead? o. o
23:47 <Librarian> he was alive?
23:47 <Librarian> rockeffeler as in rockfeller chesse seafood rockefeller
23:48 <LunaticHell> David Rockefeller, as in "so freakin' rich, that Bill Gates envies him"
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23:48 <Librarian> i know him for these and the money
23:49 <Librarian> http://lossaboresdemexico.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Ostiones-a-la-rockefeller.jpg
23:49 <Librarian> ostiones i dont know how to translate
23:49 <Librarian> sort of seafood
23:50 <SaultSteMarie> oysters
23:50 <LunaticHell> oh...kay
23:50 <SaultSteMarie> ... wait is that oysters
23:51 <LunaticHell> Actually I heard of the news from a tweet from Bill Gates
23:51 <Ali> I see nothing here yet on that.
23:51 <Ali> Local News nor CNN have said anything?
23:52 <LunaticHell> He died yesterday
23:52 * Ali nod nods.
23:52 <LunaticHell> monday, to not confuse folks about timezones
23:53 <LunaticHell> it's already updated when you look up his name on google
23:53 <Librarian> it its oysters
23:53 <Librarian> yay
23:54 * Filly_Nightmares uses Sour_Sweet as a blanket!
23:54 * Ali uses Filly_Nightmares as a blanket!
23:55 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Ali! She kneads Ali on the head!
23:55 * Ali flailyhooves!
23:55 * Filly_Nightmares grabs Ali's ears! Another vroom!
23:56 <Librarian> im sincerly impressed rockefeller was alive
23:56 * Ali sits Filly_Nightmares down, little one a bit too active for her to use as a blanket.
23:56 <Librarian> i thoght he died like 50 years ago or something
23:56 <LunaticHell> Yes, he died at the age of 101
23:57 * Filly_Nightmares plushies for Ali!
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23:59 <Librarian> he was a descedant of the orginal
23:59 <Librarian> or all of them have been stupid rich?
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