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00:12 <KooK> The Soggy Bottom Boys
00:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Flurryheart / Biplane / Slaves / Narrated / In Blue 5 / Star Mares 3.4.6 / Spa 1 / Cherry 1:27 / AoS 1:4 [ http://tinyurl.com/m84p5fg ]
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00:53 <Cepheid> The sheer number of corpses left after that war for coal is just too insurmountable to count.
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01:07 <Sombra> What was the leaked episode?
01:08 <Cepheid> If there was a leaked episode, you are ill-advised to talk about it here.
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01:10 <Sombra> Well don't tell me about it, just the episode number.
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01:13 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Thailand Pony Con Event Followup! [ http://tinyurl.com/mdrj86x ]
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01:24 <Cepheid> Twilight`Sparkle: I have no words for what just happened.
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01:38 <RazorSharpFang> So, has anyone been watching Samurai Jack?
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02:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1063 [ http://tinyurl.com/mc5xuga ]
02:02 <Cepheid> You know why I have trouble sleeping with my computers on?
02:02 <Sombra> y greg
02:02 <PowerPlay> Because the blue light screws with your brain?
02:02 <Cepheid> Because in the hum of the computers, I start hearing voices. I'm not joking. I hear what sounds like whispering just out of inaudible range.
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02:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Get Ready to Shake Your Flank at Everfree Northwest 2017!! [ http://tinyurl.com/mny4r3f ]
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02:45 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
02:46 <StormDashNLR> howdy Thelema5
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02:46 <Thelema5> What's up?
02:46 <StormDashNLR> nm
02:49 <Thelema5> Cool
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03:04 <Cepheid> Right, I'm off to bed now.
03:04 <Cepheid> G'night folks.
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03:14 <KooK> yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
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03:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Vocal Music: Lectro Dub - King Of Monsters [Electro Rock] / Luck Rock - Altius Volantis [Rock] [ http://tinyurl.com/lchcfvj ]
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04:06 * Schism wakes up. Gahs.
04:06 <Power-Play> *pokes Schism*
04:08 * Schism pokes Power-Play with some cola-flavoured gummies.
04:08 <Power-Play> o_O *is weirded out*
04:10 <Schism> What? Cola-flavoured gummies are delicious.
04:14 <Power-Play> *was never booped with gummies before*
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05:39 <Starwatcher> <poof>
05:39 <Starwatcher> hi everypony
05:44 * Schism passes Starwatcher some grilled tuna fish and cheese sandwiches.
05:48 <Starwatcher> ohh?
05:48 * Starwatcher noms happily
05:48 <Starwatcher> thanksies ^_^
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06:20 * Schism places a grilled tuna melt on Filly_Nightmares' head.
06:21 * Filly_Nightmares becomes the grilled tuna melt!
06:30 * Schism also passes Filly_Nightmares a plush sperm whale and a bowl of petunias.
06:34 * Filly_Nightmares chews on the whale and balances the bowl on her nosie.
06:34 * Filly_Nightmares pushes Schism over and lays on him
06:34 * Ali boops the Filly_Nightmares nose!
06:35 * Filly_Nightmares eees loudly and turns into a floof planet!
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06:36 <Nible> Hello!
06:37 * Ali pat pats Filly_Nightmares
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06:37 <KooK> Ali - http://imgur.com/a/AWzdI
06:37 <KooK> Big Mac came in
06:37 <Nible> Rawr nice
06:38 <Ali> That's more BAB plushies than I have
06:38 <Ali> I have the mane 6 the princesses, Zecora, Derps, and Glimmer
06:38 <KooK> I started buying them as they came out and just keep getting them as they keep coming out. That's the complete collection that BAB put out
06:38 <Nible> Grawr nib has none
06:39 <Schism> Ah, you did manage to get Big Mac to fit on the shelf.
06:39 <KooK> barely
06:39 <Schism> I also see you have Lyra and Bonbon next to one another.
06:39 <Nible> Nib hasn't seen since two got wings
06:40 <Nible> Twi*
06:40 <KooK> wat
06:40 <Nible> Nib hasn't watched mlp in awhile o3o
06:40 * Filly_Nightmares crashes into Ali
06:40 * Ali oofs as Filly_Nightmares crashes into her.
06:41 <Nible> o3o you two okay?
06:41 * Filly_Nightmares is a giant ball of pure floof!
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06:46 <Schism> Snrk. Eventually, Twilight creates a list of loops she likes. Then she creates a list to keep track of lists of loops she likes. This... ends about how you'd expect.
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06:53 * uni squeaks
06:53 * Schism brings uni along on a trip with a bunch of teenagers from Earth into the Forgotten Realms.
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06:56 <uni> *eep!*
06:57 <Schism> This show. http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cavernDandD.jpg
06:58 * uni pouts, is in tty
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07:13 * Filly_Nightmares is sad. :<
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07:14 <Starwatcher> they have come to destroy you.
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07:15 * Schism looks up uni butter, and considers how that would taste atop a steak.
07:17 <Starwatcher> Centrifugal force reacts to the rotating frame of reference.
07:18 <Golden> Good night everyone
07:18 <Schism> "You mean centripetal force. There's no such thing as centrifugal force."
07:18 <Starwatcher> neuronal network run fifty-two percent of heat exchanger cross-collateralized with hyper-dimensional matrix, upper senses, repair ordered relay to zero zero zero zero.
07:19 * Filly_Nightmares buries herself into Butter Uni's floof and sleepies.
07:19 * Schism accordingly provides Starwatcher with a hot cup of tea.
07:20 <Starwatcher> Assume the relaxation length of photons in the sample atmosphere is constant. No ceremonies are necessary.
07:20 * Golden boops Starwatcher good night.
07:21 * uni squeaks and curls around Surry, is sorry, was away from his computer
07:22 <Starwatcher> See you on the other side.
07:22 * Schism also provides Filly_Nightmares with some cola gummies to nom upon in sleep.
07:22 * uni pouts at Schism, is also not food
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07:23 <Starwatcher> Two protons expelled at each coupling site creates the mode of force, the embryo becomes a fish that we don't enter until a plate, we're here to experience evolve the little toe, atrophy, don't ask me how I'll be dead in a thousand light years, thank you, thank you.
07:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: <unspecified> [ http://tinyurl.com/mtkxy9e ]
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07:26 * Schism asks, "Put bread into the toaster, toast comes out. Where does the bread go?"
07:30 <uni> somewhere in the multiverse, there is a machine which turns toast into bread
07:36 <Schism> Hah. "Nightmare Moon had the stars aid in her escape to Equestria. The moon itself kicked Blueblood out."
07:41 <Starwatcher> why was luna forgiven for what she did?
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07:41 <Starwatcher> lots of ponies and people have been condemned forever for lesser evils, so why is she so special?
07:41 <Starwatcher> what entitles luna to our acceptance?
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07:49 <uni> Connections. That's what life is all about really. You see that mare over that? She may not know it yet, but to escape from the moon eternal, she needs to be sisters with that guy.
07:49 <uni> ANZ~
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08:02 <LisaSquarePants> hello
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09:44 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
09:46 * Schism waves to ConfusionRift, and offers a grilled cheese sandwich with ketchup.
09:47 * ConfusionRift noms the sandwich. He is satisfied with the offering.
09:48 * uni waves at ConfusionRift!
09:48 * ConfusionRift waves.
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10:43 * ConfusionRift pokes Schism, for no reason.
10:46 <Schism> Hmm. So Professor Oak has a level 66 Tauros, a level 67 Exeggutor, a level 68 Arcanite, a level 70 Gyarados, and the fully evolved form of one of the starters, at level 69.
10:47 <ConfusionRift> Yep.
10:47 <ConfusionRift> He has the third unchosen starter.
10:47 <Schism> Makes sense. Pity that he wasn't in the original, save via glitch: it'd have been fun to fight him.
10:48 <ConfusionRift> And that would be Arcanine, I think.
10:48 <ConfusionRift> Yep.
10:48 <Schism> Er, yes, Arcanine.
10:48 <ConfusionRift> He was supposed to be the final FINAL fight, I think.
10:49 * Schism nods, "Wouldn't be surprised."
10:51 <Tirek> Neat.
10:52 <Tirek> I spent 4 hours working on Zodiac today. I didn't do any actual coding though.
10:54 <ConfusionRift> Niiice.
11:21 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #841 [ http://tinyurl.com/leggznj ]
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11:28 <ArchPegasusMichael> Derpibooru is down :<
11:28 <ArchPegasusMichael> 404 on all pages
11:29 <ConfusionRift> "Come on down to the other side"?
11:29 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, yep. It's down alright.
11:30 <ConfusionRift> Oh, they're doing some maintenance work.
11:31 <ConfusionRift> And it's back.
11:31 <ArchPegasusMichael> !link yay
11:31 <DerpyBot> http://derpibooru.org/309851
11:55 <Fn> Hello uncanny valley, my old friend...
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12:05 <Midnight_Lilly> Hi guy
12:05 <Midnight_Lilly> Just woke up to have a random. Ping to my name by a pony|# nick
12:06 <Midnight_Lilly> Asking for my fav pony lol. Like 8 hours ago
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12:08 <Pony|4767> hi
12:09 <Midnight_Lilly> Hi
12:09 <Pony|4767> how did you like the episodes
12:09 * Midnight_Lilly anyone interested in playing eve online with me? It's free to play now.
12:10 <Pi> ooo?
12:10 <Pony|4767> oh wait, are we not supposed to talk about the fluttershy one lol
12:11 * Midnight_Lilly yes pi?
12:11 <Midnight_Lilly> Game with me?
12:11 <Pi> I don't have it downloaded soz
12:11 <Pony|4767> Pi how are you
12:11 <Midnight_Lilly> Oh
12:12 <Midnight_Lilly> Yeah eve is a big file. I think the first time download like 15 gb
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12:15 <Pony|4767> Pi what did you think of the Maud episode
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12:16 <Midnight_Lilly> Also Pony|4767 it is Monday :p
12:16 <Pony|4767> yes it is
12:16 <Pony|4767> so?
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12:44 <Midnight_Lilly> I thought we where allowed to talk about all the episode s on monday
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13:02 * Schism hums, and makes more grilled cheese sandwiches with just a little mayonnaise instead of butter.
13:02 * DataByte is appalled
13:04 <FreezeFrame> Nah, mayo actually makes a pretty good grilled cheese
13:04 <FreezeFrame> It's essentially a different oil to lube up the bread
13:06 <Schism> And for the dipping sauce, a mixture of ketchup with a little bit of worchestershire sauce and ghost pepper salsa.
13:14 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comic Dubs - It's All in the Wings / Lift Off! / Anger Management / Losing It [ http://tinyurl.com/lufg562 ]
13:16 <Schism> Whew... though I might have made that sauce a bit too spicy. Definitely delish, tho.
13:17 * Schism sweats.
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13:55 <Schism> ... yeah, this is about right. https://tapas.io/episode/677016
14:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Tribute to FLUTTERSHY [ http://tinyurl.com/n2jskjg ]
14:33 <SaultSteMarie> wrud
14:35 <SaultSteMarie> schism my terrible idea is that nintendo finally releases mother 3 in the us
14:36 <SaultSteMarie> as part of a GBA plug in play
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15:53 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: (Parody) Everything Wrong With Three's A Crowd in 3 Minutes [ http://tinyurl.com/k748hbs ]
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16:02 * uni eeps and squishies!
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16:06 <Twilight`Sparkle> mowr
16:07 <Schism> Mowr?
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16:23 <SunsetShimmer> Woof
16:27 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: (Rumor) Synopsis for Episode 10 - A Royal Problem- Appears, Celestia and Luna! [ http://tinyurl.com/mhrk7w2 ]
16:30 * SunsetShimmer reads that synopsis...wholly approves. Says no more.
16:40 <SaultSteMarie> so the us release schedule is still saturday's only right
16:43 <SaultSteMarie> in any case, i'm totally down for more episodes that aren't as centered on the mane six
16:43 <SaultSteMarie> and, in an alternate universe where we're talking about the hit cartoon series my little lobster
16:43 <SaultSteMarie> episodes not so centered on the *maine* six
16:49 <Schism> No, no, an MLP series taking place in Maine would likely, eventually, involve the Six following a much darker-themed Braeburn through the multiverse to climb the Dark Tower.
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16:57 <SaultSteMarie> "Oh my god! The lobsters ate half of my fingers while I was asleep! And seeing as I was a horse, I only had like four in total to begin with!"
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17:04 * Filly_Nightmares chews on Uni's snoot
17:09 * uni nyuuuus!
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17:14 <roflin> that multiverse talk made me think of a crossover.
17:14 * Filly_Nightmares suckles on it.
17:15 * Schism tries distracting Filly_Nightmares with a bowl of cauliflower cheese.
17:15 * uni flails!
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17:24 <Schism> Hmm... [Thought+Emotion < Darkness]: Background Pony spell... while [Thought+Emotion < Light] would be the Want-It, Need-It spell. Proper applications of the aspects of light and darkness could be utterly broken.
17:26 <Schism> Fire and Air are of course intricately tied to Light, Water and Earth to Dark... while Earth and Air tend to be tied to Creation, Fire and Water to Destruction.
17:27 * Filly_Nightmares eats existence.
17:27 <Schism> And Fillies are intricately tied to tree sap.
17:30 <SaultSteMarie> what if actual science ponies and instead of the elements of harmony
17:30 <SaultSteMarie> just regular elements
17:31 <Schism> https://www.fimfiction.net/story/267226/the-elements-of-elements
17:31 <SaultSteMarie> everyone's always shipping Oxygenhooves and the Hydrogenjack twins, gawsh!!!
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17:33 <Cepheid> I have learned an excrutiatingly painful lesson today.
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17:34 <Cepheid> I'm sitting on the couch, legs stretched out and resting on the ottoman. I have a freshly-brewed cup of near-boiling-hot coffee in my right hand. Spitfire jumps up and nudges me in the hand, I tell him not to do that, pet him, and he lays down.
17:34 <Cepheid> Five minutes later, he nudges my hand again. Hard.
17:35 <Cepheid> Cue coffee splashing all over my shirt, and me screaming in pain because of minor burns from extremely hot coffee.
17:35 <SaultSteMarie> i'm pretty sure cats know.
17:35 <Cepheid> Lesson learned: When I drink coffee, the cat stays off my lap. If I want him on my lap, I use a cup with a large lip to it.
17:36 <Cepheid> 'Nother update I see. *Goes to update*
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18:05 <Schism> One sec, I'm beating myself about the head and neck as I recognize that '$368.55' does not mean 'Three Hundred and Sixty-Five Dollars and Eighty-Five Cents'.
18:05 <Cepheid> No biggie. I'm examining something anyways.
18:06 <Cepheid> Given the resource generation of the world, I'm checking to see just how badly we're screwed.
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18:08 <Cepheid> Right.
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18:08 <Cepheid> We got plenty of coal around us, and large patches of iron, but..
18:08 <Cepheid> Oil? Oil's quite far.
18:08 <Librarian> evening
18:09 * Cepheid sits atop Twilight`Sparkle.
18:10 <Schism> Cepheid: Dense, medium fields far apart?
18:11 <Cepheid> Very Low Frequency, Medium Size, Poor Richness.
18:11 <Cepheid> That said, due to their distance, the richness of the oil fields are quite high.
18:11 <Cepheid> That said, they're quite far. We'll need to bust through several bases, at least.
18:11 <Cepheid> We can do it, but it'd be a minimum two-man job.
18:12 <Cepheid> One person takes point with a machine gun and ammo. Another does turret bunny-hopping. The person taking point protects the turrets being set up, while the other person sets up the turrets and loads them with ammo, then deconstructs previous turrets and moves those forward towards bases.
18:13 <Cepheid> A single person can do it alone, but it'd be costly and slow to do.
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18:14 <Schism> Mmm. Might drop in later then. I'm dealing with a few things around the apartment right now.
18:14 <Cepheid> That's fine.
18:14 <Cepheid> I'm actually gonna experiment with a few new maps, in the event that we all decide to just start over.
18:16 <Schism> Might not be a bad idea, all things considered. Most of us have at least some familiarity with the new patch now, so we can probably get things into place a bit faster to avoid the instant 'pollution = aliens' thing. That and a larger starting size for the home base should help.
18:16 <Cepheid> Indeed.
18:17 <Cepheid> I also want to scale the evolution back a bit anyways.
18:17 <Schism> Can we maybe have that requirement for materials scaled back to 3x instead? If at all possible.
18:18 <Cepheid> I'm thinking scaling it to just 2x.
18:18 <Cepheid> 4x is viable, but after what I saw last night..
18:18 <Schism> Might as well give it a go... yee?
18:18 <Cepheid> Me and ADra set up a mine covering an entire 841k iron patch.
18:18 <Cepheid> By the time I stopped last night, it had already been drained to 400k.
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18:19 <Cepheid> Hum. The game only lets me select "Normal" and "Expensive" for recipe difficulty and technology difficulty. I can only set the tech price multiplier to a number.
18:19 <Schism> Yeah, if you're going to run that, you can't do it at 4x.
18:19 <Cepheid> Schism: That said, on the map..
18:19 <Schism> That actually seems sane. Set the tech research to 4x, leave the recipe stuff alone.
18:19 <Cepheid> To the far south-west, there's a patch of iron with 7.1m
18:20 <Schism> A dizzying patch of iron.
18:20 <Cepheid> The farther you get away from the starting point, the better the yield.
18:20 <Schism> How much do you want to bet that the whole thing was under a forest, tho?
18:21 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: PMV: I Am A Rock / Aftermath [ http://tinyurl.com/lkqrgju ]
18:21 <Cepheid> Hum, where does the game keep it's settings files? I'd like to tweak them by editor rather than in-game stuff.
18:21 <Cepheid> Schism: Judging from the map, it was in the middle of a desert.
18:21 <Schism> %appdata%\Factorio - on Windows, anyway.
18:21 <Schism> Er, %appdata%\Factorio\config
18:22 <Schism> Or \saves.
18:22 <Cepheid> I checked.
18:22 <Cepheid> I'm looking for the presets.
18:23 <Cepheid> Only one way to find 'em I guess.
18:24 <Schism> Looks like it might be I:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Factorio\data\base - adjusted as appropriate.
18:25 <Schism> It's all Lua, though, and I'm not entirely sure you're skilled enough with scripting to play around with that. Be careful, Cephy!
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18:25 <Cepheid> Yep.
18:27 <Schism> Well, actually, data without the \base, but yeah.
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18:32 <Schism> Reading that line, I'm not entirely sure why I feel a distinct sense of unease. Filesystems should inCorpor@te the backslash, $houdn't they? I mean, if they sho*ld, th@t would a||93certainly ca###an un|n7t!edn 5y57333333333 CORE DUMP AT SEGMENT FAULT
18:33 <Cepheid> ...
18:33 <Cepheid> One, that's creepy. Two, it looks like the presets are built in?
18:33 <Cepheid> There's still a way to generate maps using a file, though.
18:34 <Schism> That kind of makes sense, in a twisted way. Set the presets to X, let players load whatever mods they want atop those presets.
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18:34 <Schism> Also, I feel happy knowing that I managed to creep you out.
18:36 <Cepheid> Yeah, they're all built in. The only way to generate a new map outside of the game is to use the executable and pass a config file for generating a map.
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18:38 <Schism> Why... does that sound like the developers intended for players to do things the hard way /just/ because it's entirely what their intended playerbase would do?
18:38 <SaultSteMarie> o/` Doin' everything the haaaard way, doin' everythiiiing the hard way o/`
18:39 <Cepheid> On the up side, I won't blister. On the downside, my chest freakin' hurts still.
18:39 <Schism> If so, that's a great little metagame.
18:39 <Schism> Cepheid: Bwargh.
18:39 <Cepheid> Right, so I wonder what happens if I set "recipe difficulty" to 3 or 4.
18:39 <Cepheid> Are the difficulties built into the game, or..?
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18:40 <Schism> It's just another multiplier, isn't it?
18:40 <Cepheid> No idea.
18:40 <Schism> Just one which doesn't affect recipes...
18:41 <Cepheid> Game spazzes when I set the difficulty higher than 2.
18:42 <Cepheid> Which implies it's some sort of built-in or mod-based thing.
18:42 <Schism> Darn.
18:42 <Cepheid> So normal recipes then, with 4x tech multiplier?
18:43 <Cepheid> Hmm. There's a lot of extra settings not available ingame that can be set.
18:43 <Schism> Hrm... I'd say 3x if you can do it. Lets us get some initial setup going fast, but without getting locked down by resources.
18:44 <Schism> In the latter game, that is.
18:44 <Cepheid> It seems that pollution maxes out at 7000 per chunk in default settings.
18:44 <Schism> Also known as 'clicking on the pollution map returns a screen full of red'.
18:45 <Cepheid> As for enemy evolution, I cut that in half.
18:45 <Schism> Might want to check on enemy spreading too.
18:46 <Cepheid> I'd say leave the size expansion to normal, but double the minimum cooldown.
18:47 <Cepheid> For mapgen settings, there's only one extra field.
18:47 <Cepheid> "Terrain Segmentation"
18:47 <Schism> Deserts vs. forests vs. plains, that is... hmm.
18:47 <Cepheid> I set it to very high, to see what it does.
18:48 <Schism> Segfault continent?
18:49 <Cepheid> And now to very-low with the same seed, to see the effect.
18:49 <Schism> Hope you like trees.
18:50 <Cepheid> Yeah, looks like it affects the biome size.
18:51 * Schism nods, "I imagine very-high covered the entire area with that."
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18:51 <Cepheid> Very-low resulted in a massive forested/grasslands region.
18:51 <Cepheid> Very-high resulted in a mixture of desert, forested/grasslands, etc.
18:52 <Cepheid> We'll leave that at normal, I think.
18:52 <Schism> We're going to start in a forest anyway.
18:52 <Cepheid> Probably.
18:53 <Cepheid> Let's see.. resources were reasonable for the game, but could stand to be a bit richer for us to survive.
18:53 <Cepheid> So I'll keep them at their frequency-size settings, and increase the richness to normal.
18:53 <Schism> There probably needs to be more than just a pollution on/off meter.
18:53 <Cepheid> Exception to the rule in frequency is oil.
18:54 <Cepheid> Due to the way it's generated, I'm setting it's frequency to normal.
18:54 <Schism> Might want to bump that to high.
18:54 <Cepheid> I'm gonna be generating and then checking what effect my settings have on generation.
18:55 * Schism nodnods.
18:57 <Cepheid> Huh. The config file says that all three values use the range "very-low, low, normal, high, very-high" but when I set the sizes to those..
18:57 <Cepheid> It didn't generate anything for those fields.
18:57 <Cepheid> And it accepted very-small, so..
18:57 <Schism> very-big?
18:58 <Cepheid> Normal puts oil within reasonable distance.
18:58 <Cepheid> Within ~20 chunks distance from the centre, there's like, four or five fields.
18:58 <Schism> Common distribution, then. Huh.
18:58 <Cepheid> Holy cripes. There's an oil field far away that has 3800% yield total.
18:59 <Schism> Gotta do a freakin' ton of a lot of work to get there, though.
19:00 <Cepheid> Yeah, the initial map gen shows some... fun patches of aliens.
19:00 <Schism> Well, now I'd like to see a secreenshot.
19:00 <Schism> Ahem. Screenshot.
19:01 <Cepheid> Okay, I have no idea what the hell this map generator things "very-small" is, but it's clearly different than the ingame setting.
19:01 <Schism> Probably .15 weirdness going on.
19:02 <Cepheid> Gimme a few minutes and I'll get you a screenshot. It's... silly, this map.
19:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Fluttershy Leans In: Episode Followup and Canada hates Rectangles! [ http://tinyurl.com/l9sjs3j ]
19:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> mowr
19:04 <Cepheid> http://i.imgur.com/Ru170Vv.jpg
19:04 <Cepheid> There is nothing, NOTHING for miles.
19:05 <Cepheid> Also, that's very-big for starting area.
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19:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> what's goin' on?
19:06 <Cepheid> Our current map has... problems.
19:06 <Schism> Cepheid: ... that is... one empty space.
19:06 <Cepheid> The nearest oil is over 1,300 or so tiles. And is blockaded by massive, MASSIVE enemy bases.
19:06 <Twilight`Sparkle> that is a problem.
19:06 <Twilight`Sparkle> also are we 15.5 now?
19:06 <Cepheid> I'm thinking of drawing up a new map with regular recipes and techs, but with increased tech cost, and changes to the map gen to balance things out.
19:07 <Cepheid> Yes.
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19:07 <Twilight`Sparkle> should I just put my download for the server games on 15.x?
19:07 <Cepheid> Hmm? What do you mean?
19:08 <Schism> You might as well create a second instance of the installation to 15.x, either way.
19:08 <Twilight`Sparkle> If I put my beta on .15.x it'll auto update to the latest version of the beta, whereas if I put it on 15.4 ot 15.5 etc.
19:08 <Cepheid> I use 0.15.x
19:08 <Cepheid> It auto-updates to the latest.
19:08 <Twilight`Sparkle> k
19:09 <Cepheid> Very-low frequency is dangerous all of a sudden
19:09 <Cepheid> Nothing generates ore-wise for miles.
19:09 <Schism> Let's just... avoid that. Though alien bases at very-low sounds very nice.
19:09 <Twilight`Sparkle> well then don't use that?
19:10 <Cepheid> Not going to.
19:11 <Cepheid> I've bumped it up to Low. Oil's at normal, alien bases at normal. I've retained the rest of the settings for oil and alien bases. Especially the bases. Didn't think they'd get THAT large.
19:11 <Cepheid> Very-big for starting area seems a bit excessive, though.
19:11 <Cepheid> Big seems to be a good happy-medium betweenm medium and very-big.
19:12 <Twilight`Sparkle> the other question is, do you want them regrow?
19:13 <Schism> Also, going to nap for a short while but should be back by 4...
19:13 <Schism> Regrow?
19:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> expansion.
19:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> they'll recolonize cleared out areas.
19:13 <Schism> Ah, right.
19:14 <Cepheid> http://i.imgur.com/najlpbx.jpg Here's an example of the map I just generated.
19:14 <Schism> Without robots to clear out the areas.
19:14 <Schism> That... does not look very playable.
19:14 <Cepheid> Yeah, the starting area's a bit barren.
19:15 <Cepheid> I think part of that may be due to the "starting area" setting.
19:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> how big is it?
19:15 <Cepheid> I think the game enforces a rule wherein new resources spawn around or in alien bases.
19:15 <Cepheid> That's Big.
19:15 <Cepheid> Very big is much, much larger.
19:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> try normal?
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19:15 <Schism> Might be that starting area size limits how many resources spawn within.
19:15 <Cepheid> Will do.
19:15 <Cepheid> That's another way of rewording what I said, Schism. :P
19:16 <Schism> No, how many resources spawn in the /starting camp/.
19:16 <Schism> But I guess you're right.
19:16 <Cepheid> Yeah, it does affect starting resources to a degree. Most new resource patches appear out in the alien bases areas.
19:17 <Schism> Mnfeh. I'll be back after a quick nap, but you're right.
19:17 <Cepheid> Okie.
19:17 <Cepheid> Sleep well.
19:17 <Cepheid> http://i.imgur.com/Bo7o6RK.jpg
19:17 <Cepheid> That's normal starting area.
19:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> I will help get the base back to snuff.
19:18 <Pony|56351> Hey everybody
19:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> That looks playable, actually.
19:18 <Cepheid> Starting area gets a good buch of resources, and to expand we have to fight.
19:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> and will need rails.
19:18 <Cepheid> So, expansion on or off? Your choice. Either way I want the aliens in to have some sort of combat fun.
19:18 <Schism> Looking, that does seem viable.
19:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> well, if it's on, they'll grow into us
19:19 <Schism> Expansion off, I'd say...
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19:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> and they'll fill in the current gaps
19:19 <Cepheid> True.
19:19 <Cepheid> Very well, expansion off.
19:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> there might be an exclusion zone in the starting area, but yeah.
19:19 <Cepheid> I'll keep that seed and configuration.
19:20 <Schism> I'll join up after my nap. .-.
19:20 <Cepheid> We'll probably have a small factory up by then, nothing major though.
19:20 <Cepheid> If we're not gonna use expansion either, I'm gonna restore the settings for pollution.
19:22 <Cepheid> Right then..
19:24 <Cepheid> New map started up.
19:26 <Cepheid> Wait hold on.
19:27 <Cepheid> Had expensive recipes on.
19:27 <Cepheid> There we go.
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20:29 <SaultSteMarie> yeah so i was working from home because i have a cold but like I didn't really do anything because I don't... have much work right now :I
20:29 <SaultSteMarie> guess i'm a sinner.
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20:30 <Librarian> i got an otomatone!
20:31 <Librarian> must awesome thing ever
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20:36 <SaultSteMarie> !!!
20:36 <SaultSteMarie> those are cute!
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20:38 <Librarian> and they souns like a weird vuvuzela
20:38 <Librarian> i love it
20:40 <SaultSteMarie> I sort of wanted one but I already have too many plastic... creatures.
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20:41 <Fn> https://i.imgur.com/cahJdq8.gif
20:43 <SaultSteMarie> but yeah i was alseep for like a dozens of hours last night and having weird fever dreams and now everything sucks :D
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21:35 <SaultSteMarie> okay i should do launcry
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22:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: GIANT Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2246 [ http://tinyurl.com/lubl57x ]
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23:04 <SaultSteMarie> erf. suddenly crashed
23:07 <Twilight`Sparkle> Schism!
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23:27 <SaultSteMarie> i want caffeine but caffine is not amicable with cold medicines. argghf
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23:51 <Cepheid> You're waking up, we're just about to go to sleep. :P
23:51 <Schism> Sorry. My schedule's been really, really wonky.
23:52 <SaultSteMarie> i caught the plague from one of my coworkers. i don't even know where i am right now
23:52 <SaultSteMarie> been sleeping so much
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23:54 <Cepheid> In any case, I'll be on tomorrow, early, hopefully.
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23:54 <Schism> Daresay I should be as well.
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