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00:27 <Schism> Hum, to pause due to the fact that multiple characters in your brain are colliding...
00:27 <Schism> What would one call that?
00:28 <Schism> Anyhoo, back wif sodas and stuffs.
00:31 * ADragonDreaming desires a warframe buddy
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00:52 <Schism> "Guys. Guys, don't. Please... just don't. I don't want you to subject an entire generation of innocent children to this sort of intellectual torture." "And you're showing it to us because...?" "You're neither innocent, young nor children." "True." "Just don't. There are much better ways to warp the minds of innocent youngsters than this casual nonsense."
00:53 <Schism> -- in which Divide shows a group of ponies ''Look About You'', and Twilight goes into a frothing haze.
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01:27 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Viricide Filly - Hooves Of Titanium, Built To Dance (feat. Wissshhh) [Industrial House] [ http://tinyurl.com/ku2a79h ]
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01:40 * Cepheid flops.
01:40 * ADragonDreaming pokes CEpheid
01:41 <Cepheid> Ow.
01:41 <Cepheid> What's up?
01:41 <ADragonDreaming> I am Warframe.
01:42 <Cepheid> Sorry, I'm about to head to sleep. Just came on to say hi, I'm not dead, then hit the bed.
01:43 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/i9k0K Also this.
01:45 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'm not dead. And I'm off to bed. I'll be available all day to do stupid stuff after I get my OSAP work done and some housework.
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01:53 <Schism> Wargh. Back ish.
01:53 * Filly_Nightmares plants herself between Schism's warms forelegs.
01:54 * Filly_Nightmares eeeeeeeeeeeeeees
01:54 * Schism blinks! and eees back at Filly_Nightmares, providing a bowl of cream of wheat with maple syrup, butter and cream!
01:55 * Filly_Nightmares flap flappies before burying her entire head into the bowl! She nom nomfs it and rolls into Schism's belly!
01:55 * Schism just snuggles the floof for now.
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02:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1078 [ http://tinyurl.com/lu7kpcc ]
02:04 * Filly_Nightmares curls up
02:06 * Ali drags Princess-Luna over to watch Ace Attorney
02:06 * Princess-Luna giggles
02:06 <Sombra> .I wonder if they'll ever make another one of those
02:06 <Sombra> I thought it was good
02:06 <Princess-Luna> The anime?
02:06 <Sombra> No
02:06 * Ali is watching the anime
02:07 <Sombra> Maybe
02:07 <Princess-Luna> There's 6 games and many spinoffs
02:07 <Princess-Luna> the ace attorney series is quite bountiful
02:07 <Sombra> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnD9Ar3MA2COhjhnbLE6e2g
02:07 <Sombra> those
02:09 <Princess-Luna> There is a sequal in the works for that
02:09 <Sombra> Is it actually in the works or is it one of those permanent hiatus things
02:09 <Princess-Luna> It was announced a few months ago
02:09 <Golden> I am thinking of buying an import of The Great Ace Attorney.
02:10 <Princess-Luna> They released the second recently
02:11 <Golden> Yeah but do to the estate of the guy who made sherlock holmes suing people over the use of him even though he is in the public domain I doubt the US or EU will get a release of either of them
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02:14 <Princess-Luna> yeah, that's the issue
02:14 <Princess-Luna> it'll not happen
02:14 <Princess-Luna> and that just absolutely infuriates me, personally
02:15 <Golden> Same here! Even though the US supreme court explained to them they cannot do that they still sued the people who made the sherlock holmes movies .
02:16 <Golden> Hence why I am thinking of buying imports and a japanese 3ds so I can flipping play the region locked games.
02:16 <Schism> Arthur Conan Doyle did run into issues with fanfics and similar writers during his lifetime. While his works are now in the public domain, his estate is simply following in his footsteps.
02:16 <Schism> That's not an excuse, but it is a possible reason for that nonsense.
02:17 <Golden> Still knowing the ACDE it would happen.
02:20 <SaultSteMarie> i should... game
02:20 <SaultSteMarie> instead of coding. yes.
02:20 <SaultSteMarie> ... coding is just an alternate way to game
02:21 <Golden> Just pisses me off like no tomorrow. It makes no sense to me. If the works were still under copy right I would understand, yet because of three stories coming out after the death of Arthur the Estate believes they still are, and try to bully the people who make things involving Sherlock Holmes into giving them money or risk being sued.
02:24 <Schism> It does fall under numerous SLAPP lawsuits rather than your more average copyright suit.
02:24 <Schism> SaultSteMarie, I really think you should play SpaceChem.
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02:26 <SaultSteMarie> who needs spacechem when i can just hexedit everything
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02:26 <SaultSteMarie> been making some mods for Creatures 2 though. it's... rewardingish?
02:27 * Ali boops Princess-Luna some more
02:27 <Schism> SaultSteMarie, pff. In that regard, why make an elegant program when you can just brute-force your way past a given obstacle?
02:31 <Golden> Anyway I now view Sonic '06 as a Meh game.
02:31 <Schism> Only meh? I'm surprised.
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02:32 <Golden> Why
02:33 <SaultSteMarie> anyway i need to switch pcs
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02:34 <Hamtramck> Okay
02:35 <Schism> SaultSteMarie, you may also find 'HackNet' to be of your liking.
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02:43 <Hamtramck> ... agh my FFV saves are on my other PC
02:43 * Princess-Luna smooches Ali! ;3
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02:44 <Schism> "When you draw your tongue against another, my lady, you draw it splendidly. May I ask who it was who has so severely wounded me?" "You may not." "Then I shall take my finest guess, and offer my apprecation to the lady Blue Belle."
02:45 <Schism> appreciation*
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02:55 <Schism> "And may I ask what has drawn you to that conclusion?" "You may not." "Hrmf." "But I will freely offer that very few are so experienced in the art of political assassination."
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03:00 <Schism> "You flatter my family terribly." "I had no intention to do so in the first place." "Shall we dance?" "To take our efforts onto the physical stage? It would be my pleasure."
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03:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: A Bunch of People Around the Fandom Review - Fluttershy Leans In, Forever Filly, and Parental Glidance [ http://tinyurl.com/k2kh7o5 ]
03:09 * Schism sighs, "Crud. Chipped one of the glasses when doing the dishes. It is time to pick up a new set of glassware anyway, but that's just one more pain in the tail I wasn't expecting."
03:09 * Filly_Nightmares hats on Schism!
03:09 <Schism> $1 glassware is pretty much what we use anyway.
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03:10 <Hamtramck> just do what i do and only have one bowl in active rotation
03:10 <Hamtramck> with like a dozen hidden somewhere else just in case
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03:12 <Verandure> I played through Night in the Woods and my brain is all Pinkie Pie.
03:12 <Schism> Nah, even if that worked, we generally keep a small selection of glasses, mugs and the like in the cupboard, in no small part because the parents dropped by.
03:12 <Schism> Also, that right there is a game I need to play.
03:13 <Schism> But... sometime. When it's on special.
03:13 <Verandure> I would definitely recommend it.
03:14 <Schism> Is this because it's a furry game, because it's an adventure game, because it's a good story, or because it's hideously adorable?
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03:14 <Verandure> The story has destroyed my capacity to anything else.
03:15 <Schism> So that's a 'yes' then.
03:15 <Verandure> Yes.
03:15 <Verandure> It's an experience.
03:15 <Hamtramck> hey verandure maybe you could play tetris
03:15 <Hamtramck> it's got some nice
03:15 <Hamtramck> shapes
03:15 <Verandure> Hah
03:16 <Schism> From what I'm given to understand, "A Night in the Woods" also wins because it's cute in the Eversion sense.
03:16 <Verandure> I was passable at Tetris, at one point
03:16 * Ali got to Lvl 15 on the NES version!
03:16 <Verandure> Don't read too much about it if you want to play it.
03:17 <Verandure> I think going in blind was the only reason it's affected me.
03:17 <Schism> Non-spoilery stuff: that arm in the street is kinda weird.
03:17 <Hamtramck> yeah
03:17 <Hamtramck> Why didn't they eat it
03:17 <Hamtramck> like one's an alligator
03:17 <Schism> "What are we going to do?" "Maybe poke it with a stick." "Hey!"
03:18 <Verandure> Sounds about right
03:18 <Schism> I say non-spoilery because that happens on, like, the second day.
03:18 <Verandure> Didn't the NES Tetris go to level 99, Ali?
03:18 <Schism> And then Mai pokes it.
03:19 <Schism> Mae*
03:19 <Verandure> Mae. =P
03:19 <Schism> Because of course she does.
03:19 <Ali> Verandure, I have no idea cause the NES Tetris is one of the harder ones.
03:19 <Schism> I'd have taken a pen and poked it...
03:20 <Ali> By Level 15 its stupid fast, you can't rotate pieces endlessly, no saving pieces, and can only see the next piece in advance.
03:20 <Schism> Yeah, and NES Tetris was way, way before T-sliding came about.
03:21 <Verandure> Your jargon is lost on me! I know only the best words!
03:21 <Schism> You can still play it. In fact, I suggest it for Tetris afficionadoes.
03:21 <Schism> It doesn't have a lot of the tricks and traps inherent in your average Tetris game that you see nowadays.
03:22 <Ali> Well the trick with NES Tetris is you have to be fast and good with what it gives you.
03:22 <Ali> You're going to have times where you're going to get a bad piece if you like it or not.
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03:23 <Schism> There is that. Modern versions have a weighted RNG where you can't go more than X turns without a straight line.
03:23 <Ali> Schism, the DS version that I lasted played
03:23 <Schism> Okay, okay, MOST modern versions.
03:24 <Ali> you could save a piece, endless rotate some pieces, and saw the next 5 coming down the line.
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03:24 <Schism> Oh right. Tetris DS... and that also probably still had a weighted RNG.
03:25 <Schism> I'm going to clean up the freakin' apartment like nothing else tomorrow, but also I'm going to take this useless laptop and fill it with MAME software.
03:26 <Verandure> Don't maim yourself.
03:26 <Schism> And maybe have my brother pick up a second controller therefor.
03:28 <Schism> While I love my mother, she has a tendency to break analog sticks when playing Pac-Man, Centipede and Galaga. I have literally seen her break an arcade machine with her flailings.
03:36 <Jackie|Sleep> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/208512942054834177/313881932683542530/Screenshot_46.png
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03:37 <Schism> ... you're going to have a lot of elves who absolutely hate you.
03:38 <Schism> How, I must ask, do you intend to deal with the assault waves of elvish archers?
03:38 <Jackie> Schism: Lol you know Dwarf Fortress?
03:38 <Schism> I know enough to know that when you land in a gigantic forest, that's going to end in you making a lot of potash out of dead trees and your neighbours taking exception thereto.
03:39 <Jackie> I just started playing it and sounds complex to play
03:39 <Schism> It's complicated, that's for sure. But part of the game is learning HOW to actually play.
03:39 <Jackie> And fortress mode is the most boring mode XD
03:39 <Schism> Um, you have that backwards.
03:40 <Schism> Adventure mode is boring, but fortress mode is sixty barrels of burning fun.
03:40 <Jackie> I just want to change the textures to make it not look like characters
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03:40 <Jackie> Idk if there's one for 43.05
03:40 <Schism> There are some tilesets to help you with that.
03:41 <Jackie> Are they compatable for all versions?
03:41 <Schism> Probably not.
03:42 <Schism> I am however quite serious when I say that Fortress Mode is the most interesting of all the variants. Your goal, such as it were, is to create a fortress which stands the test of time. You will fail. You will fail repeatedly.
03:42 <Hamtramck> failing is just succeeding artistically!
03:42 <Schism> And THAT is the way Dwarf Fortress is meant to be played.
03:43 <Hamtramck> I have to admit I kind of stopped following it when the maps went 3D :S
03:43 <Hamtramck> I was always terrible at it but When it was doing the whole go left == go deeper thing I had an easier time following it :SSSS
03:43 <Hamtramck> and now my attention span isn't really good for gaming :X
03:45 <Jackie> How do you make the volume of DF low?
03:46 <Jackie> Not actually nice to make it full volume heh]
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03:49 <Schism> ... I really wish I wasn't so happy about Pac-Man 256 taking fewer than a few seconds to install.
03:50 <Jackie> Is it free?
03:50 <Schism> On iOS and Android, I believe so.
03:51 <Schism> Though with the usual caveat.
03:52 <Schism> The 256 version has the Pac running away from a version of the Kill Screen, a wall of terrible pixels which destroys everything in its wake. It takes the old version of the game and plays with it.
03:54 <Hamtramck> wait so isn't this just The Passage, only backwards
03:55 <Jackie> Just wish pacman can go free
03:59 <Schism> Well, that was ... interesting. I'm better at the game than I thought.
03:59 <Schism> 7,800 on my second try.
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04:00 <Hamtramck> endless runners are a very memento mori sort of thing :S
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04:01 <Schism> Yea, but this one is genuinely unique in that it combines an older game and runs with it, pardon the pun.
04:01 <Schism> And it has a few other twists and turns that makes it something unique in and of itself.
04:03 <Schism> It also counters the standard playstyle, so if you start going through it thinking it'll just be your average Pac-Man game, you're going to lose, and fast.
04:03 <Hamtramck> I think we've already lost, haven't we?
04:03 <Schism> I dunno. It's a very, very good variant.
04:03 <Schism> I think that when something like this appears, we've won.
04:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comic Dub - That Awkward Moment / Expedited Delivery / Shpping From Distance / Choosing the Easy Way [ http://tinyurl.com/n6vzm4n ]
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04:11 <Starwatcher> hi Verandure
04:11 <Verandure> Hello, Starwatcher!
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04:13 * Starwatcher shuffles on his hooves
04:13 <Hamtramck> oh man
04:13 <Hamtramck> i'm getting spam on gmail for someone that isn't even me :T
04:14 * Starwatcher tilts his head - how are?
04:14 <Verandure> What is the ups, Starwatcher?
04:14 <Hamtramck> even the spam bots don't love me anymore!!!
04:14 <Verandure> I do well. Stuck at work for a few more hours. How about you?
04:17 * Starwatcher is doing good, thanks ^_^
04:17 <Starwatcher> launched another high altitude balloon test
04:18 <Starwatcher> ... haven't heard back from it yet unfortunately.
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04:20 <Starwatcher> hi Filly_Nightmares
04:20 * Filly_Nightmares eeeeeeeeeeeesplodes!
04:20 <Starwatcher> https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wuiJy49tlX0/WRmYBsNW7HI/AAAAAAACzTs/cXWhPBMDJPwxisjcZfOwROo8dmRbB0lhACLcB/s1600/oc___canada_pony_by_ddye088-d8z78mj.png [canada pony]
04:21 <Sombra> ew
04:22 * Filly_Nightmares eeex
04:22 * Filly_Nightmares eees
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04:25 * Starwatcher hugs Filly_Nightmares
04:25 * Filly_Nightmares is soft and warm!
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04:26 <xiao> yes hello
04:26 <xiao> 你好
04:26 <xiao> who speak chinese?
04:26 <Jackie> Mostly english here
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04:27 <Divide> Fnarkin'... PINKIE keeps killing me...
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04:28 <xiao> its a shame i need help with smuggling me into mainland to complete spy mission on republic of china taiwan is not real china
04:28 <Princess-Luna> Can you not?
04:28 <xiao> i am communist spy in taiwan
04:28 <xiao> can i not what?
04:28 <Princess-Luna> Can you not start doing the whole troll act?
04:29 <xiao> there is no act here
04:29 <xiao> i am real
04:29 <Princess-Luna> You know how I can tell?
04:29 <Princess-Luna> This is a server for MLP fans.
04:29 <xiao> what is mlp?
04:29 * Princess-Luna rolls eyes.
04:29 <Jackie> Lol
04:29 * Filly_Nightmares hats on Princess-Luna
04:29 <Sombra> Awkward
04:30 <Starwatcher> heed the wishes of the moon princess.
04:30 * Filly_Nightmares giggles.
04:30 <xiao> i have been in spy mission to promote communism in taiwan for long time
04:30 <xiao> i do not know mlp
04:30 <Princess-Luna> Yeah, uh...this isn't a spy network, and you're not kidding anyone
04:31 <Princess-Luna> or you have absolutely 0 competence.
04:31 <xiao> i just need someone to sail me to shanghai or i am in big trouble
04:31 *** Princess-Luna sets mode: +b *!*@Pony-7tenik.kbronet.com.tw
04:31 <Princess-Luna> One can ship you somewhere alright!~
04:32 <Princess-Luna> !moon xiao
04:32 <DerpyBot> Grab my tail, xiao!
04:32 *** xiao was kicked by DerpyBot (To the moon!)
04:32 <Starwatcher> lol
04:32 <Golden> .-.
04:33 <Sombra> Thank you
04:33 <Verandure> Poor moon. It's like Australia, but in space
04:33 <Starwatcher> oh, hello golden
04:33 <Sombra> Anyway, what are your thoughts on MLP based breakfast cereal?
04:33 <Starwatcher> ^ that's a thing?
04:33 <Schism> Holy crap, as much as I hate infinite runners, Pac-Man 256 is awesome.
04:34 <Golden> I am so confused. what just happened
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04:34 <Sombra> I don't know, is it?
04:35 * Ali brushies the Princess-Luna
04:35 <Sombra> If it isn't, it ought to be.
04:35 <Sombra> I think we should propose the idea to Hasbro
04:36 <Starwatcher> I'd buy it
04:36 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Ali
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04:39 * Filly_Nightmares giggles and snugaboos Ali!
04:39 * Ali yays and snugs Filly_Nightmares and feeds mango.
04:39 * Filly_Nightmares nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nomfs!
04:40 <Schism> [Pac-Man 256] "Eat 4 mangoes."
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04:43 <Filly_Nightmares> O3O
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04:44 <SRQ> o3o
04:44 *** SRQ is now known as Gladi
04:44 <Gladi> What's up in here?
04:45 <Starwatcher> !
04:45 * Starwatcher hugs Gladi warmly
04:45 <Starwatcher> hia
04:45 * Gladi hugs Starwatcher tightly.
04:45 <Gladi> hai
04:45 <Starwatcher> how's it going?
04:45 <Gladi> Is gud
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04:45 <CleverDerpy> derp?
04:46 * CleverDerpy sits and derps
04:46 <Gladi> Derp!
04:46 * Gladi hugs Derp
04:46 * CleverDerpy purrs
04:46 <Starwatcher> Derpyyyyy
04:46 * Starwatcher smiles and hugs her
04:47 <Jackie> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkW-K5RQdzo
04:47 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
04:47 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Rammstein - Feuer Frei! (Official Video)
04:47 <CleverDerpy> I am warm~
04:47 * CleverDerpy laps up her yogurt
04:47 <CleverDerpy> it's good Yoplait~
04:48 * DashedRainbows glomps Starwatcher and licks CleverDerpy
04:48 <CleverDerpy> heehee~
04:48 * Ali glomps onto CleverDerpy
04:48 * CleverDerpy licks back and boops
04:48 <CleverDerpy> eep!
04:48 * CleverDerpy collapses under all the pones
04:48 <Starwatcher> !
04:49 * Starwatcher Hugs DashedRainbows warmly
04:49 <Starwatcher> hello friend
04:49 <CleverDerpy> Derpy... can't feel her legs
04:49 * Gladi snugs DashedRainbows and assembles a pony pile o CleverDerpy
04:49 * Ali snugs up onto CleverDerpy, neither can she cause she hurt her leg!
04:49 <DashedRainbows> What's up Starwatcher?
04:49 * CleverDerpy cracks her leg and sighs with relief
04:50 <CleverDerpy> ah~
04:50 * DashedRainbows pulls Starwatcher in to the pile
04:50 <CleverDerpy> much better
04:50 <CleverDerpy> sorry, I had a Charlie horse
04:50 <CleverDerpy> and a slightly outta place leg
04:50 * Gladi gives mango slices to all in the pile.
04:51 <Starwatcher> =E
04:51 <Starwatcher> =D
04:51 <Starwatcher> hahha
04:51 <Starwatcher> not much DashedRainbows just relaxing
04:51 <Starwatcher> you?
04:51 * CleverDerpy lifts all the pones in the pile and sets them to the side
04:52 * Gladi is set.
04:52 <Gladi> .3.
04:52 <CleverDerpy> Derpy will be right back, muffin party~
04:52 <DashedRainbows> Figuring my life out a bit
04:52 * CleverDerpy rolls away to make lotsa muffins for the pile of ponies
04:53 * CleverDerpy returns with lotsa muffins as promised for the prominent pony pals in a puffy pile
04:54 <CleverDerpy> try saying that 3 times fast~
04:54 <DashedRainbows> To all y'all kids out there: being an adult isn't all it's cracked up to be
04:54 <CleverDerpy> tell Derpy about it...
04:54 * Gladi proceeds into muffin nom.
04:54 <CleverDerpy> you get the worst aches and pains, sweets start to weigh in on your weight
04:54 * DashedRainbows also noms
04:54 <CleverDerpy> you figure out stuff that can just depress you
04:55 <DashedRainbows> Yup
04:55 <CleverDerpy> and you're on your own
04:55 <CleverDerpy> the worst part of being an adult for Derpy is the pains
04:56 <CleverDerpy> she just doesn't have the same limberness as when she was a filly
04:56 * Gladi massages the erp
04:56 * CleverDerpy squeaks cutely with each pass
04:57 * DashedRainbows picks up a muffin and gives it to Derpy
04:57 <CleverDerpy> thank you~
04:57 * CleverDerpy noms it
04:58 * CleverDerpy feels something correct itself in her back from the message
04:58 <CleverDerpy> eep!
04:58 <CleverDerpy> ok, now Derpy feels good~
05:00 * DashedRainbows flies around to celebrate and crashes into a tree...
05:00 <CleverDerpy> oooooh... Derpy will get the first aid kit, sit tight DashedRainbows
05:00 * DashedRainbows also licks Gladi
05:01 <Gladi> o3o
05:01 * Gladi tastes of bat.
05:01 <DashedRainbows> And mango
05:02 * CleverDerpy makes a cute siren noise
05:02 * Ali injured her hoof right before a con, great way to start said con.
05:02 <CleverDerpy> wee woo wee woo wee woo!
05:03 * CleverDerpy wraps ali's hoof and gives it a splint and walking cast brace
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05:03 * CleverDerpy tends to DashedRainbows's wounds with some Neosporin and proceeds to bandage the booboos
05:04 <CleverDerpy> emergency, dismissed!
05:04 <CleverDerpy> wee woo wee woo wee woo!
05:04 * DashedRainbows pets the 5 Derpys
05:05 * Jackie closes down own tumblr account
05:06 <Gladi> rip
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05:06 * Heartbreak peeks.
05:06 <Jackie> jackiethefilly is dead anyway
05:06 * Heartbreak pies Gladi.
05:06 * Gladi is dead.
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05:06 * Gladi pied 2 death
05:06 * DashedRainbows also licks Heartbreak :P
05:07 <Heartbreak> Gah! Hey! Nooooo!
05:07 * Heartbreak pushes DashedRainbows away...
05:07 <DashedRainbows> Aww
05:07 <Heartbreak> I don't -do- licking.
05:07 <Jackie> I really want help on coding my own theme but no one came
05:07 <Sombra> How are you Heartbreak?
05:07 <Heartbreak> I'm... Ok.
05:08 <DashedRainbows> I know. I licked you
05:08 <Heartbreak> Jet has been posting an artproject.
05:08 <Sombra> I wish I could say the same.
05:08 * Starwatcher is cold
05:08 <Heartbreak> It's like twenty-five drawings thus far.
05:08 * Starwatcher shuffles up to Gladi
05:08 <Jackie> tumblr?
05:08 <Heartbreak> All of them traditional medium.
05:09 * DashedRainbows turns
05:09 <Heartbreak> Not -yet- Jackie, but he will soon.
05:09 * Jackie needs 3 more to get 50 followers
05:09 <Heartbreak> As long as all who are viewing realize that it's a -whole- story drawing.
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05:10 * DashedRainbows turns on the furnace
05:10 <Heartbreak> Cause if you only focus on one drawing without the context of the rest of the pictures?
05:10 * Gladi snugs Starwatcher
05:10 * Gladi is warmbat
05:10 <Heartbreak> You loose a great deal of depth.
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05:11 <Sombra> Writing his hard man
05:11 * Gladi boops Alarm_Bat
05:13 <Heartbreak> he has a lot of it on his deviant art currently.
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05:13 * DashedRainbows hugs Gladi and Starwatcher then flies off
05:13 <Gladi> Goodbiye cutie
05:14 * DashedRainbows yawns
05:14 <Starwatcher> =]
05:14 <Gladi> Sleep the best!
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05:19 <Verandure> Gasp. HB posted a thing?
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05:23 <Jackie> Anyone here experiencing problems on Tumblr?
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05:23 <CleverYuki> I am experiencing trouble here
05:24 <Jackie> There are error messages on tumblr.
05:24 <Jackie> Do you think WannaCry infected Tumblr?
05:24 <Filly_Nightmares> I dunno
05:24 <Filly_Nightmares> No
05:25 <Filly_Nightmares> If they're smart, then they would use Linux as a server.
05:25 <Filly_Nightmares> Much more efficient and free too
05:25 <Jackie> There's rarely a windows server
05:26 * Ali licks Filly_Nightmares?
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05:26 <CleverYuki> miss Ali
05:26 <CleverYuki> have you seen my mom?
05:27 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Ali's tongue!
05:27 <CleverYuki> I uh, wanted to give her a mothers day gift
05:27 <Jackie> Windows Server is insecure anyway
05:28 * Ali boops CleverYuki as the IP is kinda giving them away.
05:29 <CleverYuki> mhm
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05:29 * Alarm_Bat pounces on Gladi's head and warbles "alert! Alert!"
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05:29 <Jackie> I might wipe out Windows anyway
05:29 * Gladi noses Alarm_Bat
05:29 <CleverDerpy> hiya
05:29 <Jackie> And maybe use Ubuntu or Mint
05:30 <CleverDerpy> mint is good
05:30 <Jackie> Because the stupid ransomware
05:30 * Ali glomps back onto CleverDerpy
05:30 <CleverDerpy> very light and tastes good
05:30 <Jackie> Are you talking about Linux Mint?
05:30 <CleverDerpy> ...that sounds yummy~
05:30 * Alarm_Bat Squeaks back at Gladi
05:31 <CleverDerpy> Derpy didn't know Linux was into breath freshiners
05:31 * Filly_Nightmares boops Alarm_Bat!
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05:31 <Jackie> https://www.linuxmint.com
05:31 <CleverDerpy> derpy thought they made OSes
05:31 <Jackie> It's a distro
05:31 <Filly_Nightmares> I'm pretty sure Mint is Arch Linux.
05:31 <CleverDerpy> like in the 70s?
05:31 <Filly_Nightmares> I use Antergos myself.
05:32 <Jackie> Nah
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05:32 <CleverDerpy> derpy never really went to the disco
05:32 <Jackie> Mint is a child of Debian
05:32 <Jackie> Debian has a hell lot of children and grand children
05:32 <Alarm_Bat> 3 days! Whohoo!
05:32 <CleverDerpy> derpy's classmate cheerilee went
05:33 <CleverDerpy> speaking of Cheerilee, I wonder how she's doing...
05:33 <Jackie> debian derivatives
05:33 <Alarm_Bat> I'm.going to buy myself a big piece or bread and all sorts of cheeses and meats and I'm going to make one very expensive and possible twice the size of my mouth sandwich as soon as foodstamps come in cus damn it I have even in days
05:34 <WildStar> howdy
05:34 <CleverDerpy> derpy will write a letter~
05:34 <CleverDerpy> hiya WildStar, welcome~
05:34 * Gladi noms WildStar
05:35 <Jackie> I'm pretty sure Eqd uses linux?
05:35 <WildStar> How's it going?
05:36 <CleverDerpy> good, might hit the hay, and then sleep
05:36 <Jackie> Talking about Linux and the WannaCry ransomware
05:36 <CleverDerpy> derpy is hungry and sleepy
05:36 * Alarm_Bat noms on CleverDerpy ear
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05:36 <Alarm_Bat> Omnomnomnom
05:36 * CleverDerpy looks at the bat and presses her snooze button
05:36 <Filly_Nightmares> I used to use Ubuntu
05:36 <Jackie> Alternatively WannaCrypr
05:36 <Jackie> *WannaCrypt
05:36 <Filly_Nightmares> Switched to Arch Linux.
05:36 <Gladi> Well I'll be back later :p
05:37 * Filly_Nightmares hats on Gladi
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05:37 * CleverDerpy sleeps in a Pegasus nest
05:37 <CleverDerpy> nini~
05:38 * Alarm_Bat falls off CleverDerpy he'd with a snore
05:38 <WildStar> hmm
05:38 <Jackie> Idk, but I wanna switch to Linux ASAP
05:39 <Jackie> I don't really use Windows exclusive software anyway
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05:46 <Filly_Nightmares> I do.
05:47 <Filly_Nightmares> And only a small percentage of my games run on Linux.
05:47 <Filly_Nightmares> Even with Wine
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05:55 * Schism pops into the channel to boop Filly_Nightmares with TIS-100, SpaceChem, HackNet, Antichamber, and Uplink.
05:56 * Filly_Nightmares skrees and flap flappies her wingies wildly! She chews on the me stuff!
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05:56 <Schism> These are all the games you want, aren't they?
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05:57 <Schism> Shenzhen I/O is also pure evil, but this is SOP for Zachtronics games.
05:58 <Fn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjJpFYtx9s
05:58 <Schism> And in case you're wondering: We play games made of pure evil because they are games made of pure evil.
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05:59 <Schism> Zachtronics games are particular vile offenders, games which will cause your heads to pop like a watermelon when you get far enough.
06:00 * Filly_Nightmares cocks her head at Schism!
06:01 <Schism> Filly_Nightmares, do you like to solve particularly difficult puzzles?
06:01 <Filly_Nightmares> Yas
06:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1418 [ http://tinyurl.com/molc79x ]
06:02 <Schism> Get the SpaceChem demo, see what you think. I mean it.
06:02 <Filly_Nightmares> I haven't done some in a long time since I've been distracted by PvP games. o3o
06:02 <Filly_Nightmares> Okey!
06:02 * Filly_Nightmares turns Schism into a tiny ball of pure floof
06:03 <Alarm_Bat> I pve over on eve but that's about it
06:03 * Schism boops Filly_Nightmares with a slice of carbon.
06:03 * Filly_Nightmares eats it!
06:04 <Schism> Filly_Nightmares, I will say, though... um. There are some earlier games produced by Zach.
06:05 <Schism> This ... might be the best indication of the rest of his work. http://www.zachtronics.com/kohctpyktop-engineer-of-the-people/
06:05 <Jackie> Are there completely free games on steam? (no transactions)
06:05 * Filly_Nightmares cocks her head again
06:05 <Filly_Nightmares> Yes
06:05 <Filly_Nightmares> Tons of free games
06:05 <Filly_Nightmares> Team Fortress 2 is a prime example
06:05 <Schism> Just so you know. All of Zachtronics' games? Are insanely hard. They demand that you learn how to program.
06:06 <Filly_Nightmares> You get items by just playing the game
06:06 <Jackie> It has transactions
06:06 <Filly_Nightmares> But it isn't pay to win.
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06:06 <Jackie> Can you get cosmetics by playing?
06:06 <Schism> Also, yeah. Lotsa really free games exist upon Steam. And yes, you can.
06:06 <Filly_Nightmares> Sure. But it's rare and you can't trade them if you don't have premium.
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06:06 <Filly_Nightmares> I've gotten a few over my career.
06:07 <Schism> Don't expect that you'll earn a whole ton of cosmetic awards without paying for them. They are, by and large, restricted to the people who are willing to push cash for makeup kits and shiny costumes.
06:07 <Jackie> I really don't like MMO games these days
06:07 <Jackie> I'm finding single player games on steam tho
06:07 <Filly_Nightmares> Just trade them though!
06:08 <Schism> Okay, Jackie, are you a fan of the Diablo 2 style of game?
06:08 <Jackie> I don't have a credit card because I'm young as 19 and had no job
06:08 <Jackie> Yeah Schism
06:09 <Jackie> I knpw
06:09 <Schism> If you like your isometric RPGs, I suggest Path of Exile, which genuinely /is/ free to play.
06:09 <Jackie> Oh it's p2w
06:09 <Schism> It's not.
06:09 <Schism> You get more inventory slots if you buy them, but by and large, player characters don't get any extra skill points or anything.
06:10 <Schism> You can actually roll a perfectly sound character without paying a cent.
06:11 <Jackie> Oh that sucks
06:11 <Filly_Nightmares> I forgot that I got Space Chem for free
06:11 <Schism> Ooh!
06:11 <Filly_Nightmares> That was like 2 years ago
06:12 <Filly_Nightmares> 2 or 3 years ago.
06:12 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o
06:12 <Schism> Well, then. o3o Try it out, it's fun!
06:12 <Jackie> It sucks that I can't unlock my steam account
06:12 <Jackie> Because I never bought a game before
06:12 <Filly_Nightmares> Aw
06:12 <Schism> Honestly, Jackie, play Path of Exile. You can just make a new account anyway, and it's a nice free Diablo-like.
06:13 <Filly_Nightmares> I just buy my games with what I make off of TF2 and Counter Strike.
06:13 <Jackie> Idk if you can make money without requiring a bank account
06:13 <Schism> And that's free as in beer.
06:13 <Filly_Nightmares> You don't need a bank account to make money on Steam.
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06:13 <Filly_Nightmares> It's all linked to your Steam account.
06:14 <Jackie> Idk how to make money on Steam tho
06:14 <Schism> Also, Filly_Nightmares, I don't know if we've already done so, but we should become friends on Steam. o3o
06:14 <Filly_Nightmares> o2o
06:14 <Jackie> Like is there gaming jobs that can earn you funds?
06:14 <Filly_Nightmares> Jackie, I just sell TF2 items on the market or trade for better ones then sell that
06:15 <Filly_Nightmares> I dunno. I just play TF2 and get random drops, concert them to refined metal, then go do something and like trade that for a strange weapon or cosmetic then sell it.
06:15 * Schism also mutters, "Gnerhgfchshm!"
06:15 * Filly_Nightmares sits on Schism!
06:16 <Filly_Nightmares> But you need premium for TF2.
06:16 <Filly_Nightmares> Well, to trade and stuff like that.
06:16 <Filly_Nightmares> Playing is completely free.
06:17 <Schism> The weird thing is, for Path of Exile, it really is totally free. You can pay for cosmetics, but that's it.
06:17 <Schism> And maybe some bank storage.
06:18 <Filly_Nightmares> Schism, search up Surry in Steam!
06:18 <Filly_Nightmares> I should pop up!
06:18 <Jackie> Anyone here have $5?
06:18 <Jackie> I mean that's a lot when trying to unlock your account
06:18 <Schism> You haven't /msg'd me with your Steam ID! But then I haven't either.
06:18 <Jackie> Unless you can do favors for me
06:18 <Schism> I'm waiting for this to finish... stupid Microsoft...
06:18 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o
06:19 <Filly_Nightmares> I'm on phone
06:19 <Schism> I'll check shortly then...
06:19 <Schism> DirectX continues to not install.
06:20 <Filly_Nightmares> Aw
06:20 <Filly_Nightmares> Jackie, I'll get you 5 dollars eventually
06:21 <Schism> Well, turns out you popped up on the first three. Surreal Nightmares added to friendlist. o3o
06:21 <Schism> Aaaand, you should be able to play SpaceChem on your phone. o3o;
06:22 <Jackie> Anything in labor I can do like web programming, drawing, fixing a bug etc
06:23 <Schism> Why need you $5?
06:23 <Filly_Nightmares> Schism, what is your name in Steam?
06:23 <Schism> Theogrin the Eccentric.
06:23 <Filly_Nightmares> Okey
06:23 <Filly_Nightmares> :>
06:23 <Schism> An odd name, but a fun one anyway.
06:24 <Jackie> Schism: It's this Gary's stupid idea. If you're f2p, you are very limited to use on Steam
06:24 <Jackie> I added friends before
06:24 <Schism> Ehn. Garry's Mod? Sorry, I get ya, but can't really justify.
06:24 <Jackie> No
06:25 <Jackie> Steam's retarded way of making f2p players pay
06:25 <Schism> I don't think sending you $5 would even help, to be honest.
06:26 <Schism> Certainly not $5 CAD.
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06:27 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
06:27 <Jackie> Steam's worst idea anyway
06:27 <Schism> Well, it's certainly better than Origin.
06:28 <ConfusionRift> Ooookay.
06:28 <Jackie> I just need $5 if I can do a task
06:28 <Schism> CR: We're just poking each other right now, don't worry.
06:28 <Jackie> *not being sarcastic*
06:28 <ConfusionRift> About?
06:28 <Schism> DRM systems on PC.
06:29 <ConfusionRift> It was expected.
06:29 * Jackie getting a bit of hallucination
06:30 <Schism> And by poking, I mean it's a mild sort of thing. Also, Jackie needs $5 for account verification, but ... sorry, Jackie, I honestly can't.
06:30 <ConfusionRift> Account verification? Huh?
06:30 <Jackie> ConfusionRift: Limited accounts
06:31 <Jackie> Also it sucks that I can't acquire it because I don't have a job
06:31 <Schism> Steam requires a certain quantity of dosh in order to verify an account. That is to say, some amount needs to be transferred to a Steam account, and then sent back, to verify it.
06:31 <Jackie> And also I don't have any proof of degree
06:31 * Filly_Nightmares grabs ConfusionRift for snugs
06:32 * Schism boops Filly_Nightmares for verification. Instead of dosh, he has muffin.
06:32 <ConfusionRift> First I hear of this.
06:32 * Filly_Nightmares stares at the muffin with BIG eyes!
06:32 <Jackie> It
06:32 <Jackie> It's a bit like ransomware
06:33 <Schism> It's... one of the ways by which a Steam account is verified. I won't say it's ideal, but it does tend to preclude said accounts from being created en masse.
06:33 <Filly_Nightmares> Wat
06:33 <Jackie> You need money to use the core features
06:33 <Filly_Nightmares> It does make sense, to be honest.
06:33 <ConfusionRift> Oooh. Thaaaat. That is nothing new.
06:33 <Jackie> But I'm not one of those users who makes those kinds
06:33 <ConfusionRift> See, everyone is doing that, so... shrugs.
06:33 <Jackie> I just wish that steam can unlock my account since I never did those things
06:34 * Filly_Nightmares noms the muffin and hats on Schism
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06:34 <Jackie> Almost everyone's accounts here are verified
06:34 * Schism hats back on Filly_Nightmares. But instead of simply sitting on her head, he simply noms on ears.
06:34 * ConfusionRift patpats Filly_Nightmares.
06:34 <Schism> Filly_Nightmares, I've sent you a message via chat. o3o
06:34 * Filly_Nightmares ear flopsies and paws at Schism's neck. She rolls around in ConfusionRift's floof
06:34 <Filly_Nightmares> I'm not signed in!
06:34 <Jackie> I'll just quit using steam
06:35 <Schism> Kay... I'm sorry, Jackie, but I can't just send you $5 randomly.
06:36 <Filly_Nightmares> I could try giving Jackie a TF2 premium gift.
06:36 * Schism hugs Filly_Nightmares and at least does have her on his friends list now.
06:36 <ConfusionRift> Same here. I got everything counted for this week. I got my work hours chopped.
06:36 <Schism> Actually... hmm.
06:36 <Filly_Nightmares> Not sure if it'll work though
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06:36 <Filly_Nightmares> I have rich American moneys
06:37 <Filly_Nightmares> But money is weird
06:37 <Jackie> Idk if anyone here wants someone to be hired for something since I don't wanna sit my butt in front of the computer. And lucky you.
06:37 <Schism> I have a gift which might work to validate your Steam account, which I have no other use for.
06:37 <Filly_Nightmares> And money must be spent for stuff besides computer games. :<
06:37 * Filly_Nightmares curls up on Schism's head for sleepies.
06:37 <Filly_Nightmares> I have to sleepies.
06:37 <Schism> But... it's a gift. And that might not work, you may need to validate things before you can receive it...
06:38 <Filly_Nightmares> You can just search it up
06:38 * Schism hugs Filly_Nightmares. "When you awaken, play SpaceChem!"
06:38 * Filly_Nightmares hugs Schism's ears and ConfusionRift as plushies and goes sleepies?
06:38 <Filly_Nightmares> I'm not going to be able to get on computer until Friday!
06:39 <Filly_Nightmares> Or at least find time to play!
06:39 * Filly_Nightmares goes sleepies now!
06:39 <Schism> It's a fun little programming puzzle game in a universe with lots of horrific terrifying monstrous things that go bump in the night. And might be Great Old Ones.
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06:39 * Schism whines. "Mebbe install the Steam app on your phone and play it from there?"
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06:40 <Jackie> Is there such job that you don't need a degree but you need programming experience?
06:40 <Jackie> And as long as you're like above 18
06:40 <Schism> Yes. In many cases, jobs are written in such a way that you appear to need a degree, but equivalent experience is sufficient.
06:41 <Jackie> I don't really care how much salary it is
06:41 <Jackie> As long as I have money to survive my needs
06:41 <Schism> As long as you can demonstrate that you have the skills to perform the work, that's more important than actually having a degree.
06:42 <Schism> Do not, I repeat do NOT simply write off a job simply because you don't seem to have the requisite degree.
06:42 <ConfusionRift> ^
06:43 <Jackie> I mean i can be in if I passed their programming problem test
06:43 <Schism> Then freakin' APPLY.
06:43 <Schism> Why the heck would you not?
06:43 <Jackie> I don't have a degree.
06:43 <Schism> Forget the degree. Apply anyway.
06:43 <Jackie> Like CS degree, no high school one though
06:44 <Schism> I mean it. Forget. the. flippin'. degree.
06:44 <Jackie> Is this perfectly legal?
06:45 <Schism> YES. Because when the employer says 'I want a degree', they mean 'I want an employee who has the skills to perform the job.' A degree is BUPKIS! It means nothing! And they gave you a test anyway, so as long as you pass it with flying colours, which I'm sure you will, you're at least as good as the rest of the evaluates.
06:45 <Schism> Evaluees*
06:46 <Schism> All that a degree means is that you have been verified by a school of higher learning in a certain field of study.
06:48 <Jackie> That's what they need tho
06:48 <Jackie> I never finished school sadly
06:48 <Schism> No. What they need is someone who is capable of performing the job. And in that sense, you need to be able to write a resume and cover letter which shows you are capable of doing the task for which they're looking.
06:49 <ConfusionRift> ^
06:50 <ConfusionRift> Thing is that if they notice a proof that you can do what they need you don't really need any sort of degree.
06:50 <Schism> You're overthinking things, Jackie. You can write a few sentences, you can demonstrate your skills, you're likely to get a job.
06:51 <ConfusionRift> There are some folks who got their programming jobs without a programming degree, or even a GED. In some circumstances, they end up getting those after the fact.
06:52 <Schism> Heh. My father learned more on the job than he ever learned in school.
06:52 <Schism> Probably in his first month.
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06:52 <Jackie> Then what's the point of having a degree that I have a fair amount of coding skills? I know you can't determine a person by their degree. It's by skill and how good they can be on your workplace.
06:53 <ConfusionRift> It's easier on them, but it's not always necessary.
06:54 <Schism> Jackie: The idea of having a degree is that, ostensibly, that degree declares that you have a certain level of coding knowledge. That is, you know your ifs from your nots. It's ... like ConfusionRift said, it's an easy way to distinguish certain resumes.
06:55 <Schism> And many employers will use that religiously.
06:55 <Jackie> Well, sometimes, small business don't need degrees
06:55 <Schism> You're halfway right. Many times, large business doesn't, either.
06:56 <ConfusionRift> Let's say this. If they want to give you the job, they will do it, regardless of previous requirements. So, if they don't, they won't. Not even with a degree of any sort.
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06:57 <Schism> CR has the right of it. You shouldn't let your level of education be a defining point. Personally, I leave that at the bottom of my resume, and let it drift off the eyes of those who read my CV.
06:58 <Schism> Ultimately, let your skills be the defining point of your resume, NOT your educational standing.
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07:00 <Schism> Also, in general, I mean this as a simple statement: what schools you've attended don't matter half as much as what you're able to actually do.
07:01 <Verandure> In theory, yes.
07:01 <Schism> Verandure, well, I'm talking to Jackie about jobs they'll be able to acquire.
07:02 <Jackie> All I mainly do is code programs and make simple but nice portfolio sites
07:02 <Schism> Jackie: I promise, 'all' you're able to do will net you a very nice job indeed if you keep at it.
07:03 <Alarm_Bat> Schism I took coding lessions once
07:04 <Alarm_Bat> I loved it. Then I got baned from the computers. So in order to pass the class the teacher gave me an option
07:04 * Schism eyebrows, "How the heck did you get banned from the computers?"
07:04 <Alarm_Bat> Write the entire program down on paper in the exact order (tabs and spaces and enters and all) so the lessions
07:05 <ConfusionRift> Abuse of networks, ruining a system, infecting or tampering assets, etc. etc. etc.
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07:05 <Schism> That's a very different matter from the norm.
07:06 <Schism> And I can't imagine that Jackie did any of that.
07:06 <Alarm_Bat> My end of the year test was to write a full program. So I turned In a very large 276 page notebook. I even tuned in a second one next to it for coding notes
07:06 <Alarm_Bat> I never have touched coding again. My hand was hurting for weeks
07:07 <ConfusionRift> A student got banned from the PCs because he messed up the network by changing addresses and locking the teachers main system.
07:07 <Schism> Also, Alarm_Bat: ... I must say, I am impressed... what grade did you receive for said notebooks?
07:07 <Jackie> Heh my geek life is: web development, compiling, terminals and especially Linux
07:07 <Alarm_Bat> Schism I may have taken down the entire system in half the school earlier that year....
07:08 <ConfusionRift> Whooooops.
07:08 <Verandure> For training people to do computer science, universities sure do have sucky IT departments =P
07:08 <Schism> ... with two commands, I take it.
07:08 <Schism> Oh! oh, oh, Alarm_Bat and ConfusionRift, have you played HackNet?
07:09 <ConfusionRift> Haven't, but am aware of it.
07:09 <Alarm_Bat> I got a 89 on the test Schism. The teacher took a week to type it all in and test it in his free time so he could grade me
07:09 <Alarm_Bat> No I haven't
07:09 <Schism> Oh, it's delicious.
07:10 <Schism> Also, holy crud, that's awesome. Handwritten code, and you still got an 89? Man.
07:10 <Alarm_Bat> Also Schism I did learn something from that. Write the same bit of code over and over again on paper and it gets seared into your brain Forrreevvverrrrr
07:10 <Jackie> What language?
07:10 <Alarm_Bat> Never want to a close button coded ever again
07:11 <Schism> You could have handled much worse.
07:11 <Jackie> But damn, that was wasted skills :(
07:11 <Schism> I have at one point handled FORTH on paper.
07:12 <Schism> Well, a derivative.
07:12 <Alarm_Bat> Schism I got a 89 cus I had a spelling mistake on a few lines
07:12 <Jackie> An old language
07:12 <Jackie> Why didn't you debug?
07:12 <Schism> Augh! Alarm_Bat at least you didn't forget some semicolons.
07:12 <Alarm_Bat> HTML code is still used I think
07:13 <Alarm_Bat> Jackie it was the entire program written down by hand on paper
07:13 <Jackie> Never touching code again is the worst thing i've heard.
07:13 <Schism> Jackie, yeah, you try and reverse language on your own and deal with typos.
07:13 <Alarm_Bat> If you find a notebook with built in bebug in paper please show me
07:14 <Schism> Alarm_Bat, at least the margins let you write comments.
07:15 <Alarm_Bat> Schism my comments was in the second book you whould just see a little "see B2 PG26 L12" as the comment and you would have to flip to the page in the second book to find the comment of that code
07:15 <Alarm_Bat> Book 2 page 26 line 12
07:16 <Jackie> Alarm_Bat: But hey. I wish I could mentor you if you like to go back coding. I mean, it's fun to code sometimes.
07:16 <Alarm_Bat> Ugh
07:16 <Alarm_Bat> Never again
07:16 <Jackie> Coding's not hard
07:16 <Schism> Crap on a cracker, you were recreating assembly language.
07:17 <Alarm_Bat> Haha what Schism?
07:17 <Schism> That kind of comment was de jeur 30 years ago.
07:17 <Alarm_Bat> No Jackie it's just tedious as hell
07:18 <Alarm_Bat> With really? Schism they actually used that in codeing at one point?
07:18 <Jackie> It's because it's a cryptic language
07:18 <Schism> Alarm_Bat, look up the source code for the Apollo 11 Guidance Computer.
07:18 * Alarm_Bat uploads code red to Jackie's laptop
07:19 <Schism> I swear they did the whole thing on a freakin' whiteboard.
07:19 <Schism> And I'm wrong. 70 years ago.
07:20 <Schism> Okay, 50, but even freakin' so.
07:20 <ConfusionRift> That's kinda what they use in algorithm classes.
07:20 <Schism> And for good reason.
07:21 <Alarm_Bat> Ugh math
07:21 <Schism> I have on my bookshelf a copy of The Art of Computer Programming. I have yet to finish the damned set.
07:21 <Jackie> I'm a bit triggered that someone quitted coding..
07:22 <Schism> If it helps, I know that some folks have quilted coding.
07:22 <Alarm_Bat> Jakie you do coding on paper for 3 months and not be able to do it on a PC. Then see how much you want to do it yourself
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07:22 <Alarm_Bat> Zero room for damn error
07:23 <ConfusionRift> Heh. During college, like half the class would always just switch from major or leave in the first few days of programming classes.
07:23 <Alarm_Bat> Quilt coding? What's that like? Do you just see patches of java and HTML together and see if it works?
07:23 <Schism> How exactly did you manage to break half the campus, by the way?
07:23 <Jackie> did you try coding on a pc then?
07:24 <Jackie> coding on a paper is silly
07:24 <Alarm_Bat> Yeah till I got baned from the PC's Jackie I even did some after the ban was over still didn't want to go back
07:25 <Jackie> don't you own your own pc
07:25 * ConfusionRift shrugs.
07:25 <Jackie> er stupid keyboard
07:25 <Schism> Mneh... I guess it's too easy to take down a mere school.
07:25 <ConfusionRift> Schism: They found coding, algorithms, and general programming to be tedious and boring. Oh well. I did get mah degree.
07:25 <Alarm_Bat> Coding on a paper is surprising effective as it makes you have to pay a lot more attention to detail. Cus if you type it all in and get it on a PC at a later point and that one little typo start a butterfly effect.....
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07:26 <Alarm_Bat> Madness
07:26 <Schism> I bet that if you gave those papers to a few innocent students, they could then break the whole network and you'd have nothing connecting you to the chaos.
07:27 <Jackie> i mean if i misheard that you hate coding on paper
07:27 <Schism> But that would be wrong.
07:28 <Alarm_Bat> Schism I had the program on a flash drive that I slotted into the school pc. I started said program and it didn't play well with the school systems
07:28 <Schism> Hardware access is a given flaw in EVERYTHING.
07:28 <Schism> Especially where Citrix is concerned.
07:28 <Alarm_Bat> Then some idiot copied the shit and started spreading it and changing it and soon I was blamed for all sortsa shit
07:29 <Alarm_Bat> Mothball effect sucks
07:29 <Schism> Sorry, just an FYI, keep the language down in this channel.
07:29 <Jackie> I don't know what to say but I have a message to people who completely quit on coding.
07:29 <Alarm_Bat> Jackie I hate codeing now cus of the memory of having to do it on paper
07:29 <ConfusionRift> Coding sucks! (disappears)
07:30 <Schism> ConfusionRift, I know for a fact that you've broken the records of Cepheid and myself in SpaceChem.
07:30 <Jackie> They why don't you do it on your own PC if you can't use a PC on schools?
07:30 <Jackie> *Then
07:30 <Jackie> You could have just used Python for an easier understanding
07:31 <Alarm_Bat> Cus I didnt have one older then 1998 Jackie?
07:31 <Schism> And Jackie, Alarm_Bat, I know that neither of you are capable of breaking our records at SpaceChem. It's impossible for either of you to do so, so don't try.
07:31 <Alarm_Bat> I mean not everyone has computers
07:31 <ConfusionRift> Schism: ...no. That crazie. (whistles)
07:31 <Jackie> I mean if you have a current one
07:32 <Alarm_Bat> Even today computers are not completely everywhere at least one that can run modern programs
07:32 <ConfusionRift> That was on the demo though. I don't have the game yet.
07:32 <Alarm_Bat> Jackie this was like 6 years ago why would I big up the notebook now?
07:32 <ConfusionRift> And Cepheid had to pummel mine.
07:32 <Jackie> I even code on a laptop though.
07:33 <Jackie> Alarm_Bat: You simply hate coding because you did it on paper
07:33 <Schism> Erm. Blast. Sorry... while I'm willing to buy the game for you, $12 is a bit much therefor, and I don't have a spare copy ATM.
07:33 <Jackie> Which is of course, is difficult
07:34 * ConfusionRift patpats Schism. "No worries, broh." :P
07:34 * Schism hugs ConfusionRift. "However. Have you seen TIS-100?"
07:34 <ConfusionRift> I'll get it at some point. I'm content with Space Engineers and Factorio.
07:34 <ConfusionRift> TIS-100?
07:34 <Schism> Eh, that's fair. Also, TIS-100 is an assembly-language programming game.
07:35 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh, right.
07:35 <Schism> It's like SpaceChem, but even LESS sensible.
07:35 <Jackie> Idk, it's just I'm just upset for someone who has potential that they can do it
07:35 <ConfusionRift> Less so than boilers? :P
07:35 <Jackie> If it was from a computer
07:36 <Jackie> It's motivation
07:36 <Schism> Oh, it's even worse. Also, you should join Cepheid, Adra and myself in Factorio.
07:36 <Schism> TIS-100 is really, really insane. I mean it.
07:36 <ConfusionRift> It's assembly language! Of course it is.
07:37 <Schism> And then you have SHENZHEN I/O. Which is assembly language and circuitry and suddenly your head explodes BECAUSE OF COURSE IT DOES, IT'S ZACH.
07:38 <ConfusionRift> And I might. I just prefer to fool around in Factorio.
07:38 <Schism> This is the guy, for point of reference, who originally came up with Minecraft.
07:38 <ConfusionRift> And like to create ships in Space Engineers.
07:38 <Schism> And I do say, we do have a Factorio server.
07:39 <Schism> Just in case, you know, you'd like to critique the terribad designs we've come up with.
07:39 <Jackie> i'm sorry that i can't talk much. kinda heartbreaking for me that someone did said it in front of me...
07:40 <Schism> Jackie: Um... I'm not sure what you mean...? Are you alright? And did 'it'?
07:41 <ConfusionRift> Schism:It's fine. Besides, I do get a bit nervous around other's work. Don't want an "whoops" moment to happen.
07:42 <ConfusionRift> I'm still figuring how to make the science circle of death thing more... efficient.
07:43 <Schism> Oh. Are you playing with the unstable version yet?
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07:43 <ConfusionRift> Yes.
07:43 <ConfusionRift> Decided to move to experimental.
07:43 <ConfusionRift> Stable is taking forever.
07:44 * Schism nods, "Seems the best way to go about it. I'm sure stable will update soon, but yeah."
07:44 <Jackie> Schism: Not alright. Just that someone who quits programming makes me upset because they didn't tried much to continue because I think they could've have much potential to be a great coder today, as well as not giving up from your failures.
07:44 <Schism> And... loading the chain of potions with high explosives doesn't seem a good idea...
07:45 <Schism> Jackie: No, I agree. But if they've found something better, I shan't argue.
07:45 <Jackie> And this part of upsetting would take me a day to a week
07:46 <Jackie> I mean idk if they didn't found something better like arting or music
07:46 <Schism> I couldn't really say, but I fear I'm going to take my own rest, albeit for half a day or so - sleeping, that is.
07:47 <Jackie> Coding is much like a hobby, talent or professionally, a career to me
07:47 <Alarm_Bat> I play eve lol
07:47 <Alarm_Bat> That's better to me.
07:47 <Jackie> I don't really know if that's something that can be a hobby
07:47 <Verandure> Night, Schism.
07:47 <Schism> Oh heavens, EVE. I've only played one game which is even worse than it is in terms of political strife.
07:48 <Alarm_Bat> Lol Schism
07:48 <Alarm_Bat> I don't so politics
07:48 <Jackie> But yes, I'm quite upset because that feels wasted to me. and I can just hope, in sometime, they can put out their sleeves and do it again on a computer this time, and write a programming language. See you later..
07:49 <Alarm_Bat> I told my leaders "hey ill make in game programs to keep the ships and in game mony flowing. But don't you DARE give me any say in things" cus I would burn it all down laughing
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07:52 <iandalton> Hello everypony
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07:52 <iandalton> Evening, Schism
07:52 <Rosie3> Gangsta pone
07:52 <Rosie3> also i am soon on level 99 ^^
07:53 <iandalton> Hi Rosie3
07:53 <iandalton> What game are you playing?
07:53 <Rosie3> oh hai pones <3
07:53 <Rosie3> ff3
07:53 <iandalton> original NES?
07:53 <Rosie3> The remake.
07:53 <iandalton> or rather, FamiCom?
07:53 <iandalton> Oh, what system?
07:53 <Rosie3> Steam
07:53 <iandalton> PC?
07:53 <Rosie3> yeah
07:54 <iandalton> I'll have to find a screenshot
07:54 <Rosie3> i dont own famicom. But its the only leaglized released version outside japan,so i just went with it
07:54 <Rosie3> Getting a wii soon aswell to play the original FF
07:54 <iandalton> https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/FF3.jpg
07:54 <Rosie3> cool
07:54 <iandalton> Looks nice and cute
07:54 <Rosie3> I think Refia is cute
07:55 <Rosie3> atleast Devout Refia : 3
07:55 <iandalton> Was FFIII the one about kids?
07:55 <iandalton> https://r.mprd.se/media/images/55494-Final_Fantasy_III_(Japan)_[En_by_A.W.Jackson+Neill_Corlett+SoM2Freak_v1.1]-2.png
07:55 <Rosie3> its about orphans who can change jobs
07:55 <Alarm_Bat> Do foodstamps work on cheases fro. The deli like the sliced one I can order for sandwiches?
07:55 <Rosie3> they were blank flanks in the original i think
07:55 <iandalton> It's a fitting choice of graphics
07:55 <Rosie3> but in the remake they have more of a personality of names
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07:57 <iandalton> I played some of FFI, your could build your party however you liked from available classes, so there was no personality written for the characters
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07:58 <iandalton> Although now I project the personalities from 8-Bit Theatre onto that game :P
07:59 <Rosie3> Yeah but i dont think FF3 had that much to it either, well they added some stuff in the FF3 remake though
08:00 <ConfusionRift> Haven't heard that one in a long time.
08:00 <Rosie3> but i almost beat ff1 in ff origins, but i rage quited near the end of chaos temple
08:00 <Rosie3> so i never finished it :P
08:00 <iandalton> I've never finished a video game :-|
08:00 <Rosie3> bahamut has always been my favorite summoning in ff7 so i am glad he is the one that upgrades me
08:00 <Rosie3> awww
08:00 <iandalton> I prefer to watch other ppl play games
08:01 <Rosie3> but final fantasy is pretty hard though
08:01 <Rosie3> compared to for example games like crash bandicoot 3 which i love
08:01 <iandalton> I used guides
08:01 <ConfusionRift> Have to leave for a while. Back later.
08:02 <iandalton> There was a hilariously written guide for FFVI where the guy kept making fun of Ted Woolsey's translations. He is a bit infamous as a translator.
08:02 <iandalton> "Son of a submariner!" as a swear
08:02 <Rosie3> aha :P
08:02 <Rosie3> like did the japanese make fun of him or was it US translation joke :P
08:02 <iandalton> he was made fun of by people playing it in English
08:03 <Rosie3> ah nice :D:D:D
08:03 <iandalton> Also, this isn't Ted Woolsey, but in FFI, someone says, "You spoony bard!"
08:03 <Rosie3> FF4 you spoony bard
08:03 <Rosie3> classic :)
08:04 <iandalton> http://shrines.rpgclassics.com/snes/ff6/walkthrough/walk3.shtml Phooey!
08:04 <iandalton> Wow this page is so old, these tiney pics got heavy jpeg compressed
08:05 <Rosie3> looks very nostalgic :)
08:06 <iandalton> Is there funny dialog in FF3?
08:06 <Rosie3> not that i can remember : 3
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08:16 <Golden> Good night everyone
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08:59 <Rosie3> good night
09:00 <iandalton> Gnight
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09:46 <ConfusionRift> Finally back!
09:53 <ConfusionRift> iandalton: Check the "copyright" year. 2006.
09:55 <iandalton> ConfusionRift oh I know, I pulled up this RPG shrine (which name tells its age) because it's what I used back in the day as a guide
09:56 <iandalton> it's even older than that, http://shrines.rpgclassics.com/snes/ff6/index.shtml has dates back to 2002, when I started high school and this game
09:57 <ConfusionRift> Used it a few times as well, for some Genesis RPG I don't remember.
09:59 <iandalton> fun, I played a little Phantasy Star IV in emulation
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10:02 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
10:02 <ConfusionRift> Hello there.
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10:05 <iandalton> hi Thelema5
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10:05 <iandalton> how's it hanging?
10:06 <Thelema5> That's a difficult question. I seen better days, and I've seen worse. How've you been?
10:06 <iandalton> pretty good. I got a job at the home depot.
10:07 <Thelema5> Oh sweet!
10:07 <Thelema5> Congrats
10:07 <iandalton> thanks
10:07 <iandalton> come fall, I'll be a student teacher in a classroom with a mentor teacher for one semester
10:08 <iandalton> and a year after that, I should find myself teaching in my own classroom somewhere
10:08 <Thelema5> Awesome.
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10:09 <iandalton> what about you, what's happening?
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10:11 <Rosie3> hai
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10:12 <Rosie3> pony thug life : 3
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10:12 <Thelema5> ^ iandalton
10:12 <Thelema5> Pony Thug Life Indeed
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10:13 <Rosie3> ^^
10:13 <Thelema5> bye!
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10:35 <ConfusionRift> Pfffft, Space Engineers it is. Hopefully all goes well. It's been rather... unstable.
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10:47 <Divide> Bleh. Shenzhen I/O... is very strange.
11:03 <Divide> And I hate the creator for coming up with a new and very interesting variant of patience which I simply can't win.
11:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #856 [ http://tinyurl.com/mur36v8 ]
11:11 <Divide> Aha. So it IS possible to win the game. Meanwhile WHY THE BLAZES does this have a 47-page manual?! Evil! EVIL!
11:11 <ConfusionRift> Nyeheheheeee!
11:12 <Divide> I'm not complaining, mind you. It's always nice to see a game where RTFM isn't just a suggestion, but a genuine necessity.
11:12 <Divide> "Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes", for example, is RTFM: The Game.
11:13 <ConfusionRift> Yep. Otherwise... well... bye-bye.
11:17 <Divide> I also like how this game tells you outright, "I know that nobody reads the freaking manual, but seriously. Read the freakin' manual."
11:19 <Rosie3> god this leveling up is killing me
11:19 <Rosie3> i am on lvl 95. and i feel its taking ages :P
11:20 <Rosie3> to get to 99
11:20 <Divide> The exp. required tends to grow exponentially during the last 10 levels.
11:21 <Divide> This is in no way unique to the Final Fantasy series.
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11:23 <ConfusionRift> Guh! That's a very heavy ship!
11:24 <Divide> The best of all examples, of course, is The 7th Saga, which (in the English versions, at least) combined anemic experience points with a variation which meant the player characters didn't gain stats at the same rate as their rivals.
11:24 <iandalton> I know that FFI closely followed the rules of the D&D of its day, which roughly doubles exp every level
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11:24 <iandalton> dunno about how far later FFs departed from that
11:25 <Divide> They departed quite heavily, although FF8 is the shining example of 'levels don't matter anymore'.
11:25 <iandalton> why's that?
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11:26 <Divide> In FF8, not only do enemies scale with your level (and usually scale /much more/ than your level), but the Junctioning system meant that the characters could gain a bonus to pretty much all their stats and resistances which rendered the game trivial, with enough work.
11:27 <iandalton> yeah I played a little FF8 that a friend owned, following his advice on junction-grinding. It was so boring.
11:27 <Divide> T-Rexaur, for example, an enemy for which the standard tactic is "Just... just RUN", becomes absolutely ridiculous if you junction Sleep and/or Blizzard to an attack.
11:28 <Divide> Both of which are readily available early on.
11:28 <Divide> If you DO level... the game does become somewhat punishing, especially if you don't actually know how to Junction.
11:30 <Divide> So you can either play the game normally and have a bit of a tough time, or you can prepare ahead and render the whole thing a pointless cakewalk with a halfway decent story.
11:30 <Divide> Which, I suppose, is the dichotomy inherent in every FF game.
11:31 <iandalton> OK, I found the chart for FFVI's levelling table, and fit the curve, it's about 3.5*x^3
11:31 <iandalton> so sub-exponential, unlike D&D
11:32 <Divide> Sounds about right, but you need to also factor in the fact that unless your characters have Espers equipped, they're going to have sub-par stat gains.
11:33 <iandalton> I totally forget about what level you first get espers/phantom beasts
11:33 <Divide> In FFVI, you get those at Zozo (I think), the city of thieves, right after meeting back up with Terra.
11:33 <iandalton> oh, also, the chart I grabbed is for the PS version, SNES version seems to have a different chart
11:34 <iandalton> Yeah I remember about when, but not what level
11:34 <Divide> Not really all that noticably different unless you've got OCD. And, hrmf. I want to say 25-ish.
11:34 <iandalton> oh nvm the XP reqs are the same, it's only MP numbers that change on PS
11:35 <Divide> I tend to overlevel in FF games for the most part, I just forget exactly what level Zoso tends to be. Might even be 20ish.
11:35 <iandalton> I know I heard that FFI sticks close to D&D rules. If so, then each class would have different XP requirements
11:35 <iandalton> I guess every FF game did things pretty differently
11:38 <Divide> Yeah, the whole series could be called a series of experiments into what actually works. Contrast Dragon Quest, which has been pretty much boilerplate the whole way through, and owns it pretty well.
11:42 <iandalton> It's an interesting contrast with D&D, where the mechanics get tweaked a little, but they are pretty recognizable all the way back to the original published in 1978. It's add-on stuff (both fluff and crunch) that makes a particular game of D&D unique
11:43 <Rosie3> so 10 levels they decided to be jerk to me...
11:44 <Rosie3> uuuugh squaaaaare !!!!!!!!!!!1
11:44 <Rosie3> this is why i hate old final fantasy games
11:44 <Rosie3> currently on lvl 95 though
11:44 <Divide> And best of all, it is just Square -- you can't blame Enix for FF3. Well, you maybe can, but not all that much.
11:45 <Rosie3> Nah i mean that old game designer Nasir i think programmed ff1-3 and secret of mana game
11:45 <Rosie3> sakaguchi i have no clue what he did but he directed and was producer for the series most likely.
11:45 <iandalton> Nasir doesn't sound very Japanese
11:45 <Rosie3> thats because it isnt : 3
11:45 <Rosie3> he's iranian american
11:46 <iandalton> wow
11:46 <iandalton> if you're not careful, you'll learn something new every day!
11:46 <Rosie3> he worked for square during the video game crash, or he searched for job at nintendo or square. Nintendo wasnt interested so he went for square
11:46 <Rosie3> hehe
11:47 <Rosie3> although he did influence people though to be honest, i heard the guy who made Doom game for example was influenced
11:47 <Rosie3> Nasir Gebelli was his name i think
11:51 <iandalton> wow, he started working at Square before there was a translator available, and he didn't know any Japanese
11:51 <iandalton> and he made a game there in those conditions
11:52 <Divide> <troll> Later, he worked for the developer Quintet as a translator, where his ability to speak two words of Japanese put him well ahead of the game. </troll>
11:53 <iandalton> Quintet?
11:53 <Divide> Soulblader, Illusion of Gaia, and Terranigma.
11:53 <iandalton> I'm ignorant of all of them
11:53 <Divide> They're some of the best, but worst-translated, games on the SNES.
11:54 <Divide> Terranigma wasn't brought over to the US, even, but that was because of all the religious references inherent in the story.
11:55 <iandalton> sweet, it has a hollow earth
11:56 <Divide> Yeah, the light side and dark side thing is actually quite interesting.
11:56 <iandalton> "Terranigma wound up never being published in North America because Enix had already closed its US subsidiary by the time the localization was finished."
11:56 <iandalton> that's a less sexy story
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11:56 <Rosie3> But it says he is credited for the re-release of FF origins, ff dawn of souls. Which is like remake of FF1 and FF2 in a way. But maybe he just was called back to make it for fun that way
11:57 <Rosie3> since its the exact game, only that its made international this time around
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11:57 <Rosie3> 2002 and 2004
11:57 <Rosie3> took a break after secret of mana 1993. from what i get
11:58 <Divide> Ehn, there were a lot of excuses made, iandalton.
11:58 <Divide> I was mostly joking about the developer. Though Ted Woolsey said that Secret of Mana nearly killed him, due to the fact that it was functionally impossible to translate.
11:59 <Rosie3> i even heard FF3 was deemed importable due to the cartridge problems or something, so they had to wait til DS came before they remade it or something. I mean it was gonna be on NES but the focused on FF4 so they didnt bothered to ship it to the US. But in terms of giving it on playstation wasnt going to happen it seems
11:59 <Rosie3> ah:D who translated secret of mana
11:59 <Divide> That would be the aforementioned Ted Woolsey.
11:59 <Divide> Who also did a bang-up job on FF6.
12:00 <iandalton> sure, sure. "Son of a submariner!"
12:00 <Rosie3> Yellow sub marine
12:00 <Divide> I love how he translated Kefka. That nutball persona made him one of the most genuinely interesting villains of the SNES era.
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12:01 <iandalton> yeah, Kefka/Cefca is fun
12:01 <iandalton> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyZoe-r9qb0
12:01 <iandalton> dat laugh
12:02 <Rosie3> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stZXqcRrae0
12:02 <Rosie3> oh look. Pony Fantasy :)
12:02 <Rosie3> well now i am motivated to play FF3 again
12:03 <Divide> FF6, I hope you mean.
12:04 <iandalton> Rosie3's playing the one with orphans
12:04 <Divide> Following the acquisition of espers and the airship, of course, I take the time to have Locke & co. murder a few Intangirs via the casual application of Vanish/Doom.
12:04 <Rosie3> nah i mean ff3 1990s one. Not 1994 on snes
12:05 <iandalton> but 1994 is 1990s...
12:05 <Rosie3> which is ff6 in this case, i hope to get to it one day though :P
12:05 <Rosie3> i mean 1990
12:05 <Rosie3> killing Kum kum forever
12:06 <Divide> While Gau's true strength is in his Rages, especially the Catscratch and Rhodox, earning him every type of Magic in the book helps quite a bit early on.
12:06 <iandalton> oh god why am i still up
12:06 <iandalton> now I might be watching pony fantasy vi for the next half hour...XP
12:07 <iandalton> one of the comments: "is there a ff13 with ponies?"
12:08 <iandalton> one of the nice thing about older sprite-based games is they're easier to mod
12:12 <Rosie3> ponies in a fantasy games makes me happy ^^
12:13 <iandalton> yus
12:14 <iandalton> btw if you like tabletop roleplaying games, there's Roleplaying is Magic (storygaming style) or Ponyfinder (D&D style)
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12:17 <Rosie3> maybe :)
12:17 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Love's Gonna Get You Down [ http://tinyurl.com/n5tudfc ]
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12:24 <Vulpor> Howdy all
12:30 <Jackie> Rosie3: Lisa?
12:31 <Vulpor> Lisa?
12:31 <Vulpor> Lisa needs braces!
12:32 <Jackie> Lisa is actually a unregistered name
12:32 <Jackie> So maybe she can pick it up
12:33 <Rosie3> Rosie is just a name i picked
12:35 <Jackie> Oh
12:35 <Jackie> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph-CA_tu5KA
12:35 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
12:35 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Rammstein - Links 2 3 4 (Official Video)
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12:36 <Rosie3> Level 95 is as much as i can take. I'll just start a new game and delete it. Not worth it in my view.
12:37 <Rosie3> Tried... but yeah no thx : 3
12:37 <Rosie3> was very close to that iron giant though hehe
12:37 <Vulpor> So, I must highly reccomend Persona 5
12:37 <Vulpor> If you have not played it you should
12:37 <Jackie> Anyone here know Rammstein?
12:38 <Vulpor> I know of their music
12:38 <Jackie> It's badass even tho it's in German
12:40 <Rosie3> i dunno. Being in high school and stuff. I'd rather play more fun games like elder scrolls oblivion was
12:40 <Rosie3> i remember that one was very fun
12:42 <Saerydoth> when I was in high school the Commodore 64 was still a thing :(
12:44 <Saerydoth> well when I started high school anyway, by my last year it was declining
12:44 <Rosie3> I was born in 1991, grew up with european snes so we didnt have any rpg games. The one rpg game i tried first was jade cocoon demo, which looked amazing, and its pretty good for a ps1 game
12:44 <Saerydoth> lol, I graduated in 1990
12:45 <Rosie3> heh ^^
12:45 * Saerydoth is old fart
12:45 <Rosie3> how old are you. I am like 25 now
12:45 <Saerydoth> 44
12:45 <Saerydoth> I wish I could be 25 again
12:45 <Rosie3> cool. Old pony : 3
12:45 <Vulpor> I was eight
12:45 <Rosie3> oh ^^
12:45 <Vulpor> in 1990
12:45 <Saerydoth> 1972 here
12:45 <Vulpor> or rather seven
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12:45 <Vulpor> I was born in 1983
12:46 <Saerydoth> I very vaguely remember the original Star Wars being released, though I didn't see it in a theater
12:46 <Rosie3> my brother also owned amiga and commodore 64
12:46 <Rosie3> he was borned in 1981
12:46 <Saerydoth> I wanted an Amiga, but never got one, my parents were Apple fanboys
12:46 <Saerydoth> and I was until 1989 when I swore off Apple forever
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12:47 <Rosie3> cool
12:47 <Rosie3> i dunno. I feel i am too old to play video games at time. I waste so much time when i should go to the gym
12:47 <Divide> Fnark. Shenzhen I/O is evil in that I know I have a pretty good program, now to just OPTIMIZE THE BLASTED THING.
12:47 <Rosie3> the only type of games i feel that doesnt take up my time is games like crash bandicoot. Since i know it from point a to point b
12:48 <Saerydoth> all I do when I'm not working is play games :P
12:48 <Saerydoth> you're never too old
12:48 <Rosie3> but i just generally am not that fan of games that makes you level up to a neverending tale. You know games like world of warcraft where you can take days before you reach a certain level
12:48 <Saerydoth> WOW doesn't have an ending
12:49 <Rosie3> Oblivion i feel was just plain out fun with levels in the background so that one ... i mean i feel like discord at these types of games. I just lose interest very quickly
12:49 <Saerydoth> it doesn't take long to reach max level now though
12:49 <Rosie3> aha : 3
12:49 <Saerydoth> and once you reach max level there are lots of things you can do with friends
12:49 <Rosie3> i only got to level 40 in 2008.. and i quit, gave away all my stuff to a friend who was into wow
12:49 <Rosie3> and that was it for me
12:49 <Saerydoth> yeah levelling was a lot slower then
12:49 <Saerydoth> level cap was 80 but it took a lot longer to get there
12:49 <Rosie3> or it was when burning crusade was the newest expansion of it
12:49 <Saerydoth> level cap is 110 now
12:50 <Saerydoth> yeah levelling was ungodly slow then
12:50 <Rosie3> i had to like download quest helper and stuff
12:50 <Saerydoth> they have stuff like that built in now
12:50 <Rosie3> but i recently tried wow to level 10. i still dont like it :P
12:50 <Rosie3> like this year
12:50 <Saerydoth> it's changed a lot and gotten a lot more casual friendly
12:50 <Rosie3> done and done
12:50 <Rosie3> deleted... muahahaha
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12:50 <Rosie3> i guess i have to sell my wii now. I only got it because i was considering playing FF1, i may aswell sell origins when i get it too
12:51 <Rosie3> what a waste of money XD but oh well
12:51 <Rosie3> back to level 3 : #
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12:54 <Saerydoth> I still have a wii, hasn't been turned on in years though. Got rid of all my newer Nintendo stuff since I'm boycotting them now
12:54 <Rosie3> Yeah nintendo has gotten dumb
12:55 <Rosie3> i dunno... i just stick with a ps2 and some action games.. But i have been considering to just stop gaming in general
12:55 <Saerydoth> well I'm speciifically boycotting them over something that happened last September (AM2R)
12:56 <Rosie3> oh wow : 3
12:56 <Saerydoth> will never buy anohter Nintendo product until/unless they make that right...and I know they won't so
12:56 <Rosie3> cant have illegal mods copyright muahhahahaha : d
12:57 <Rosie3> hmm i see
12:57 <Rosie3> i sorta ditched nintendo ever since sony playstation either way
12:57 <Rosie3> i knew some friends who were into it thogh
12:58 <Saerydoth> I really liked the Gamecube era
12:58 <Rosie3> GameCube was meh. PS2 forever for me : 3
12:59 <Rosie3> although i think games was at its peak with PS1
12:59 <Rosie3> or well gamecube did have some fun stuff though!!!
13:03 <Saerydoth> The Gamecube was technologically a generation ahead of the PS2, and it had a lot mroe good games
13:03 <Saerydoth> the SP2 had some good tgames and a lot more games total but a lot of shovelware
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13:05 <Saerydoth> but yeah the GC was WAY WAY WAY ahead of the PS2 technologically, it was capable of much better looking games. Of course graphics aren't everything and the PS2 did have some good games but still
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13:06 <Saerydoth> something like Metroid Prime could not have been done on the PS2
13:07 <Saerydoth> I remember when they tried to put RE4 on the PS4, haha
13:07 <Saerydoth> didn't work so well
13:07 <Divide> *stares at the manual* ... I hate everything.
13:07 <ADragonDreaming> oh?
13:08 <Jackie|Sleep> Jackie sleeping and hugging her cookie plush. <3
13:08 <Divide> Shenzhen I/O. Gotta do this 'harmonic maximization' nonsense. It offends my mildly audiophilic senses.
13:08 <ADragonDreaming> is this a game or a piece of hardware?
13:09 <Rosie3> Metroid Prime had pretty clunky controls
13:09 <Rosie3> i didnt like it at all
13:09 <Jackie|Sleep> Goodnight guys. I hope tumblr gets fixed again by tomorrow since I contacted them by email. :/
13:09 <Divide> ADragonDreaming, yes.
13:10 <ADragonDreaming> Alright, then, mathematician, which is it?
13:10 <Divide> It's a game which simulates the player creating a series of circuitboards via the use of careful placement and programming of several chips.
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13:14 <Rosie3> i think playing Sims was a more fun experience than going for a Final Fantasy run..
13:14 <Rosie3> waste of time but whatever
13:14 <Rosie3> meh the only games i will remember is 7, 13 and lightning returns
13:15 <Saerydoth> Metroid Prime wasn't an FPS, people that were expecting an FPS had the wrong expectation. It was a 3D Metroid game
13:15 <Rosie3> whats wrong with FPS
13:15 <Rosie3> if its fun then i dont care
13:15 <Rosie3> i mean games is just time waster anyways
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13:15 <Saerydoth> well there's nothing inherently wrong with FPS games, but the only good ones in recent memory were Half Life and Crysis
13:16 <Saerydoth> I was just saying Metroid Prime wasn't supposed to be an FPS
13:21 <Hat> I thought the Metro series were good FPS games too
13:22 <Saerydoth> I actually have those but haven't had the opportunity to play them yet
13:22 <Saerydoth> have the remastered ones or something, got them for like $5
13:22 <Hat> They are worth a try!
13:23 * Divide mutter grumble bus types.
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13:36 <Rosie3> Remember the time when nerds where bullied? This is maybe why its in popular culture when you remove the nature's predator
13:36 <Rosie3> sort of the obsessed people etc
13:36 <Rosie3> or i mean bullies is sort of nature's predator from keeping this stuff spreading in society from what i get
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13:42 <DARK> hello
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13:48 <Hat> Hi Dark
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14:09 * Divide smiles brightly. "Ah, that glorious feeling when a program finally WORKS."
14:09 <Divide> But oh what a tangled weave of spaghetti this one is.
14:10 <Divide> ... aw, /crud./ How did THAT fail?!
14:11 <Hat> Not enough sauce code
14:14 <Divide> Ah, the timer...
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14:17 <Phobos> Hello
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14:20 <Divide> Augh! Three tests, it fails RIGHT at the very end.
14:22 <Divide> Okay, later on in the cycles...
14:23 * Sleeping_Nightmares noms Hat
14:27 * Divide glares at the game. "I'm clearly overthinking things."
14:35 * Hat is nommed
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14:42 <Divide> Gnargh, timers hate hate timers.
14:43 <Schism> There is a certain measure of disdain I feel for those parts of the game which involve very specific timing.
14:44 <Schism> It's not that they're bad, and indeed are some of the most intelligent and engaging parts, learning where those snags are. But boy do they get on my everlasting nerve.
14:50 <Schism> Shenzhen I/O also comes with a devilishly good solitaire game. So there is that.
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15:07 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
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15:11 <Hat> Hi Thelema5
15:11 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Electronic Music: Midnight Musician - Where's Your Heaven Now? (MrMehster Remix) [Hardstyle] / Skelter - Dark Side [Trap] [ http://tinyurl.com/lypppm8 ]
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15:28 * Schism boops Cepheid with Shenzhen I/O's solitaire game. There's maybe a programming puzzle or two in there as well, but the solitaire is what really makes the game.
15:30 <Cepheid> Heh.
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15:36 <Cepheid> ...
15:36 <Cepheid> OSAP, why am I on academic probation still?
15:36 * Cepheid sighs.
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15:39 * Cepheid calls OSAP to figure out who screwed up THIS time.
15:39 <Verandure> Are you sure the probation is still in effect?
15:41 <Cepheid> It states on my application that I am under academic probation.
15:42 <Verandure> On the school website? 'Cause I don't think the little "Academic Probation" hold ever goes away.
15:42 <Cepheid> No, the OSAP website.
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15:45 * Verandure shrugs.
15:46 <Cepheid> Calling it now. School hasn't submitted documentation to OSAP.
15:46 <Cepheid> So OSAP probably thinks I did nothing.
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15:50 <Cepheid> OSAP just gave me the run-around and told me to contact my school.
15:52 <Verandure> Yay! Bureaucracy!
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15:55 <Cepheid> And the OSAP department at the university won't tell me, and is directing me to the Ministry of financial aide.
15:56 * Cepheid is starting to lose it.
15:57 <CleverDerpy> derp
15:57 <Verandure> Frustration induced insanity! Woo!
15:58 <CleverDerpy> would Cepheid like hugs?
15:59 <Cepheid> Someone bloody freaking lied to me. The only clues I have at the moment are that it has to do with the time I withdrew from Athabasca University. I was told that when I paid back the amount owed to the ministry and provided a letter of academic proof, that they would remove the academic probation status.
15:59 <Cepheid> Apparently this isn't *BLEEP* true.
15:59 <Cepheid> ...
16:00 <Cepheid> The university gave me a phone number back to OSAP.
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16:01 * Cepheid waits in line again.
16:03 <Thelema5> Sounds very frustrating
16:03 <CleverDerpy> mhm, also hiya Thelema5
16:03 <Verandure> This is your queue song. It lasts much too long.
16:04 * Thelema5 patapat CleverDerpy
16:04 * CleverDerpy purrs
16:04 <Thelema5> This is queue-song that never ends... it just goes on and on my friends
16:04 <CleverDerpy> Thelema5, is it sad that I was thinking the same song?
16:05 <Thelema5> Nuh uh, it's a natural progression
16:05 <CleverDerpy> yay~
16:05 <Verandure> I was also going to use that song, but decided against it.
16:12 <Thelema5> ya gatta' love the classics
16:13 <Cepheid> ...
16:13 <Cepheid> And the ministry says it's not on them to remove academic probation.
16:13 <Verandure> Of course.
16:13 <Cepheid> Which means I go back to the university, and I speak with them in a very stern voice.
16:13 <Verandure> Or go for a supervisor
16:14 <Cepheid> I'm going to.
16:14 <Thelema5> Or go for the jugular
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16:14 <Cepheid> It's the university that handles academic probation.
16:16 <Cepheid> ...
16:16 <Cepheid> And now the OSAP advisor at the university is on lun.. ...
16:16 <Cepheid> Son of a- That's why she wanted me to contact OSAP, it's near lunch time and she didn't want to deal with me.
16:17 <Thelema5> That's rather unprofessional
16:17 <Thelema5> She should be sent... to the mooooon
16:20 <Cepheid> So I have to wait until about 12;30 or so now.
16:20 <Cepheid> This is starting to take it's toll on my stress levels and stomach.
16:21 * Thelema5 feeds Cepheid some L-Theanine
16:21 <Cepheid> What?
16:21 * Cepheid is debating taking a second does of his medications at the moment as is.
16:22 <Thelema5> It's an ammino acid which crosses the blood brain barrier and acts as gaba and seratonin, reducing stress and inducing a feeling of calm
16:22 <Cepheid> Probably not a good idea, actually.
16:22 <Cepheid> It would interact with my medication.
16:23 <Thelema5> Probably
16:23 <Cepheid> My medicine in question causes a re-uptake inhibiting of serotonin and norepinephrine. That basically means that serotonin and norepinephrine is kept in the synaptic cleft for a longer period.
16:24 <Cepheid> The intent being to ensure that the impulses fire from serotonin and norepinephrine. Add more serotonin to the mix(Or a serotonin agonist), and it'll just cause more frequent firings.
16:25 <Thelema5> You're fired! And you... you're fired!
16:26 <Thelema5> There's an Apprentice / Comney joke here somewhere
16:27 <Cepheid> Heh. :P
16:27 <Cepheid> I honestly do not wish to know how Trump is still president, or even alive and uninjured for that matter, given all the recent hubbub.
16:29 <Thelema5> Like any autocrat, through fear I suppose
16:29 <Verandure> Please don't. My brain literally can't handle that.
16:29 <Schism> As best as I can tell, no party wishes to admit their errors, and in accordance the majority party in the US is maintaining a culture of 'we must support our leader'.
16:29 <Thelema5> !link ponies
16:29 <DerpyBot> http://derpibooru.org/414762
16:29 <Cepheid> Yeah, this isn't really the channel for discussion of government politics.
16:29 <Cepheid> I think I'll keep it limited to school beauracracy.
16:30 <Cepheid> Schism, you got a ravine or anything of the sort nearby that I can dump certain things into?
16:30 <Schism> Nothing comes to mind, but considering how it's raining, you could probably just dump them in the river and nobody'd notice.
16:30 <Cepheid> Time to try the university again.
16:33 <RazorSharpFang> Is Cepheid dumping illegal substances?
16:33 <Cepheid> Please do me a favour and imagine me screaming "FINALLY!"
16:33 <Cepheid> I got someone sensible on the other end of the line.
16:34 <Thelema5> Yay!
16:35 <Cepheid> The status has actually been updated to "no longer on academic probation" in the school files(Why the previous OSAP advisor didn't tell me this...), it's just apparently the university decided to wait until the NEXT OSAP APPLICATION WAS FILED to make the changes to the Ministry databases.
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16:37 <Cepheid> Essentially, this means that for the purposes of applications online, the system will show me as under academic probation even when I'm not.
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16:40 <Cepheid> Now I need to calm down and stop the adrenaline in me from making me sick.
16:40 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Synopsis for MLP Season 7 Episode 'Campfire Tales' Revealed! [ http://tinyurl.com/ls8etcf ]
16:41 * Thelema5 flailyhoofs at DerpyBot
16:41 <Cepheid> ...
16:41 * Cepheid bans DerpyBot for spoilers.
16:44 <Schism> MLP season 9 episode 11, wherein the Cutie Mark Crusaders go out on a triple date with Rumble, Button Mash and Twist.
16:44 <Thelema5> Eww
16:44 <Schism> Sorry, couldn't resist. :S
16:44 <Thelema5> I can't see sweetie belle with any of those knaves
16:45 <Schism> Well, okay, granted I'm a fan of Sweetie Belle/Pip Squeak.
16:47 <Cepheid> Don't mention knaves.
16:48 <Cepheid> It brings back nightmares of the island of knights and knaves.
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16:48 <Schism> And the third guard stabs anyone who asks tricky questions.
16:49 <Cepheid> The irony is that when the professor covered that particular problem(It was to show that different people solve problems in different ways), the slide she started with was that XKCD comic.
16:51 <Schism> Me, I'd just follow the left wall. But knowing Black Hat Guy, the labyrinth is probably incongruous.
16:51 <Schism> Er, noncontinuous. Either way.
16:52 <Cepheid> That would not work. The implication is that the problem's potential answers, with one exception, are all dangerous.
16:52 <Cepheid> Thus, if you use the left or right-hand wall rule, you run a pretty good chance of taking the wrong path and dying.
16:53 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid: Google is 99% sure your profane tweet is toxic.
16:53 <Schism> Also, in the alt-text: "None of the doors actually lead out."
16:53 <Thelema5> Unless the enemy has studied his Agrippa
16:54 <Schism> "Which I have."
16:55 * Schism cancels out Thelema5's Capo Ferro.
16:55 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: You don't say.
16:56 <Cepheid> Does it offer suggestions on how to make it 100% toxic?
16:57 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid: I've never been able to.
16:58 <Cepheid> Where does one go to check how toxic a tweet is, anyways?
16:58 <RazorSharpFang> http://www.perspectiveapi.com/ - google's got a little 'demo' halfway down the page.
16:59 <Cepheid> Hahaha. XD
17:00 <Cepheid> "Bonjour" comes out as 13% toxic.
17:01 <Cepheid> "Schism" is 21% likely to be perceived 'toxic'.
17:01 * Cepheid holds a geigercounter up to Schism. It ticks slowly.
17:02 * Schism breathes upon the geiger counter. It immediately melts.
17:02 <CleverDerpy> what does toxic mean?
17:02 <CleverDerpy> in this sense?
17:02 <Thelema5> Thelema5 is 22% likely to be perceived as toxic. Huh?
17:02 <Cepheid> I guess Schism must be part of Imagine Dragons, because he's radioactive.
17:02 <Thelema5> Silliness
17:02 <Schism> Wellll, you know Applejack's Baked Bads, which seemed pretty decent until you actually tried to eat them, and found out that they were made of worms, lemons, and potato chips?
17:02 <Cepheid> CleverDerpy: "Insulting, rude, vitriolic in tense and tone."
17:03 <Cepheid> Think any typical MOBA and the way the players act.
17:03 <Schism> You could also just say 'poisonous'.
17:03 <Cepheid> Cepheid - 22% toxic.
17:03 <Schism> I have an excuse, of course. My nom de plume refers to a strife between factions of a larger group.
17:04 <Cepheid> The rest of us though, it makes no sense.
17:04 <Thelema5> "You are a good friend." = 5%... "You are a good friend!" = 6%. Apparently enthusiam is not well received
17:04 <Schism> Exclamation marks automatically uptick the toxicity.
17:04 <Cepheid> "Hi" and "Hello" also have differing variations.
17:04 <CleverDerpy> how does one find out
17:04 <Cepheid> And using French seems to be pretty toxic.
17:05 <Schism> And that's to say nothing of those who use five exclamation marks in a row!
17:05 <Schism> Clearly a sure sign of someone who wears their underpants on their head.
17:06 <CleverDerpy> I like muffins, is 3%
17:06 <Cepheid> "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!" is 73% toxic.
17:06 <Thelema5> All caps seem to bump the results up another point, but adding an exclaimation point after all caps brings it back down. O.o
17:06 <Cepheid> And it doesn't react to "I am groot."
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17:07 <Cepheid> As for the tweet that started this conversation, I'd post it but uhm...
17:07 <Cepheid> It's nothing but a long stream of cursing and swearing.
17:07 <Thelema5> Definately toxic
17:07 <CleverDerpy> they're don't like sargent pepper
17:07 <CleverDerpy> I am the walrus, coocookachoo! is 12%
17:08 <Schism> The Beatles are fairly toxic. o3o Considering how many drugs they were usually on.
17:08 <Cepheid> "They don't"
17:08 <Thelema5> "I'm Twilight Sparkle, Princess of Friendship" is only 2%
17:09 <Schism> Moving on, I believe I'm going to find my way down the road and pick up a panini. I happen to have a coupon for one panini, free with purchase of a drink. Any drink.
17:09 <Thelema5> What a deal!
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17:09 <Schism> It is a good one, even if it's just a small 6" sub.
17:09 <PonyZx> Hi
17:10 <CleverDerpy> I just tell em, I like toast! YEAH TOAST! YEAH TOAST! <34%
17:10 <PonyZx> wut?
17:10 <Cepheid> CleverDerpy is... special.
17:10 <Thelema5> Hi there, PonyZx. Welcome.
17:10 <Schism> We're being silly, PonyZx. http://www.perspectiveapi.com - where you can check the toxicity of your tweets! Well, potential toxicity.
17:10 <CleverDerpy> that's mean...
17:10 <CleverDerpy> Derpy is not special, Derpy is... different~
17:11 * Schism passes CleverDerpy a cranberry, white chocolate and macadamia oatmeal cookie.
17:11 <Schism> With a maple glaze.
17:11 <PonyZx> k?
17:11 * CleverDerpy noms the muffin
17:12 <Thelema5> Don't mind the commotion, PonyZx. We're all special here
17:12 <PonyZx> i like trains
17:12 <Thelema5> I like turtles
17:13 <PonyZx> *explode*
17:13 <Thelema5> Not really, I did it for the lulz
17:13 <PonyZx> ah lol
17:14 <Thelema5> DO you like the ponyville express? It's a lovely little train
17:15 <Thelema5> It's much nicer than that monstrous thing which rides out of the Crystal Empire
17:16 <Cepheid> You mean the mysterious cloud of darkness whispering about crystals?
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17:18 <Thelema5> Nah, the train from Three's a Crowd.
17:21 <Cepheid> Oh yeah, I had fun last night. Parents took me to an unusual theatre in the city to see Guardians of the Galaxy 2.
17:21 <Thelema5> How was it?
17:22 <Cepheid> The theatre uses large, comfy chairs instead of those small compressed chairs. And they also take orders for restaurant food and drink(alcohol included) and serve it to you in the theatre.
17:22 <Cepheid> As for the movie, it was awesome.
17:23 <Thelema5> Theater sounds nice. New York is pushing for legislation to allow alcohol sales in theaters
17:23 <Alarm_Bat> Cepheid we have those
17:23 <Cepheid> This is the only one I know of in the entire city.
17:23 <Alarm_Bat> The one here has armchairs that give massages and recline while you enjoy your movie
17:23 <Thelema5> Nice
17:24 <Cepheid> Yeah, these ones reclined a bit. No massage, though.
17:24 <Cepheid> Mind you, the place is extremely expensive.
17:24 <Cepheid> But then, it does have it's benefits to the expensiveness.
17:24 <Alarm_Bat> That movie theater cost a ton for tickets though
17:24 <Cepheid> People shut their pie-holes.
17:24 <Cepheid> Because people have paid a lot of money for the tickets in the first place and all that.
17:25 <Alarm_Bat> So I go to one that cost $2 to get in and enjoy my movie while others are stick watching it on DVD at home
17:25 <Cepheid> $2? Sheesh.
17:25 <Cepheid> The cheapest place here is like, $12.
17:27 <Thelema5> The theater I frequent is very old with only two screens. It's been in operation since the 1940's, and they have two couches, as one would expect to find in a living room. Blankets and all. Their prices are also very reasonable. Large popcorn? $2
17:27 <Alarm_Bat> Lol Cepheid
17:27 <Cepheid> Off topic, but lookin at the Switch, it occurred to me that Nintendo has the potential to implement an amazing idea. But I doubt they would.
17:27 <Thelema5> The mostly show limited run films though, no major releases
17:27 <Alarm_Bat> 2 dollors
17:28 <Cepheid> Thelema5: It's Ottawa. Nothing is cheap here. It's a government city, and the most boring city in the country.
17:28 <Thelema5> Yeah... but I'll bet it's hella clean
17:28 <Alarm_Bat> The only issue is the fact that they only show movies after they have left theaters so you have to wait till it stops showing at the expensive theater
17:28 <Thelema5> Ah, a second run theater. Those are fun.
17:28 <Cepheid> Thelema5: Depends on the theatre.
17:29 <Thelema5> Nah, I meant the city
17:29 <Thelema5> XD
17:29 <Cepheid> Ah.
17:29 <Cepheid> Eeehhh..
17:29 <Cepheid> I've seen cleaner in California and Toronto.
17:30 <Cepheid> Toronto's definitely cleaner than Ottawa. And in California, the cities I'm comparing to are Santa Rosa, and San Francisco.
17:30 <Cepheid> Even Seattle's cleaner.
17:30 <Thelema5> New York is a giant trash heap
17:30 <Cepheid> Though arguably I'm comparing Ottawa during the late Fall to early Spring period, which is mostly dirty because the city stops caring, and all the salt and gravel they lay about.
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17:31 <Cepheid> The salt and gravel sticks around until late April, and of course after all the snow melts, you find all the garbage people threw about on the ground and such.
17:32 <Thelema5> And all of the cash and valuables people have dropped. I make a point of scanning the roadsides as I walk after the spring thaw
17:32 <Cepheid> Heh.
17:32 <Cepheid> Around here it's mostly garbage
17:32 <Cepheid> The worst of it is around bus stops and stations. Especially downtown.
17:32 <Thelema5> Here too, but I did find a $20 note once
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17:32 <Cepheid> When the snow melts, you just find a huge pile of cigarette butts, and a bunch of coffee cups.
17:33 <Cepheid> Funny thing is, the bus stops are all covered by the same law that says that no smoking is allowed within 9 meters of a building entrance.
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17:33 <Alarm_Bat> Here I wait for McDonald's monoploy
17:34 <Alarm_Bat> Cus people throw all there McDonald's on the side if the road when they done eating so it doesn't sit in there car.
17:34 <Thelema5> Animals
17:34 <Alarm_Bat> And then never pull the game pieces off. Last year I had almost 20 free meals from collecting those.
17:35 <Alarm_Bat> Like the fries dring and sandwiches even some ice cream I'm counting as one meal
17:35 <Thelema5> Nice! I don't have any MacDonalds near me so I doubt I'd have much luck
17:36 <Cepheid> Here, it's McDonalds Monopoly pieces, and the occasional Timmies Roll Up The Rim cups.
17:37 <Alarm_Bat> No Cepheid here its. To lazy to put in trash while home. I'll just Chuck it out my window cus I don't see cops
17:37 <Thelema5> I can't imagine being that careless
17:37 <Cepheid> Yeah, it's the same problem here.
17:38 <Cepheid> People tossing garbage out the windows of cars, or just off to the side of the sidewalk.
17:38 * Thelema5 is again grateful to live in the relative isolation of his pop. 1600 town
17:38 <Alarm_Bat> Yeah oddly I saw someone throw an entire trashbag out the window once around here. Rather then driving 3 more minutes to get to the dump
17:38 <Cepheid> ...
17:38 <Alarm_Bat> Yeah a full trashbag like the one people place in there kitchens
17:39 <Alarm_Bat> Just pulled over in front of my house and put it through the window on the side of the road
17:39 <Cepheid> The only other oddity I see around here, are the metal scroungers.
17:40 <Cepheid> If you want to get rid of something with a lot of metal, just put it out before night time. There's a couple of guys that come around here every night to take away anything with metal in it.
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17:40 <PrincessBigMac> Lol
17:40 <Thelema5> There's money to be made scrapping, sure. I've gotten rid of a lot of junk by posting it for scap on craigslist
17:41 <PrincessBigMac> Metal is just deposited in the dump here
17:41 <PrincessBigMac> No one buys it
17:41 <Thelema5> That's surprising. There are lots of scrappers on youtube who post how-to videos
17:41 <Cepheid> The only things I don't put out are electronics. I dispose of those properly.
17:42 <Cepheid> But yeah, for the most part, these guys come every night, rustle around in garbage left out for anything made of metal, and take it away.
17:42 <Cepheid> My dad uses this to his advantage at times. He wanted to get rid of some old tire rims that had mostly rusted away.
17:42 <Thelema5> It's probably the only way they afford to eat
17:42 <Cepheid> Left them out on the side of the street. 15 minutes later, the guys came by and took 'em away. Same with our old freezer.
17:43 <Cepheid> Eh. These guys usually collected a LOT of scrap. It's often piled up on their trucks.
17:43 <Thelema5> Yeah, I gotrid of an old blown-out and rusted hot water heater
17:43 <Cepheid> They're making good money off of it, I'm sure.
17:43 <Thelema5> *got rid
17:44 <Cepheid> In a way, I would prefer to see metal salvagers rummage through our garbage, than what some metal salvagers do at the NRC.
17:44 <Schism> Mmm. $1.50 panini.
17:45 <PrincessBigMac> Yuck panini
17:45 <Schism> It's steak and cheese.
17:45 <Cepheid> Said salvagers visit the NRC on occasion to disassemble metal fencing, and remove copper and other "scrap metal" as they call it from building A/Cs and such.
17:45 <PonyZx> Sorry x.x i fall sleep
17:45 <PrincessBigMac> I remember when my grandmother got a panini maker
17:45 <Thelema5> Can't beat that, Schism
17:45 <Cepheid> As you can imagine, this is kind of illegal.
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17:46 <Schism> The phrase commonly used to describe said scavengers are 'copper stripping ghouls'.
17:46 <PrincessBigMac> We had nothing to eat but Panini's for months
17:46 <PrincessBigMac> Till it "mysteriously" broke
17:46 * Cepheid looks at a news feed. Sees something about an unusual event in Oregon. Immediately goes back to something else.
17:46 <Cepheid> Schism: Yeah, they're causing a lot of trouble at the NRC. Also...
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17:47 * Schism looks at what Cepheid just saw, agrees.
17:47 <Cepheid> NRC security, outside of what my mother does, is pretty stupid.
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17:47 <PrincessBigMac> People do that with building sites her
17:47 <PrincessBigMac> In the suburbs
17:47 <Cepheid> Apparently while my mother was on her vacation, some guys were going around the various NRC buildings and entering them, taking photographs. In one building, this happened right next to some RCMP and security guards, who said nothing.
17:47 <Cepheid> The guards and RCMP officers were later reprimanded for the security breach.
17:47 <Schism> PrincessBigMac: This is just a $1.50 Subway sub, on panini bread.
17:47 <PrincessBigMac> They go in a strip piping out at midnight
17:48 <Schism> Cepheid: Yeesh. ._.
17:48 <PrincessBigMac> And the builders just place new piping the next day.
17:48 <Cepheid> Lately security at the NRC has been having a field day with all sorts of stuff.
17:48 <Cepheid> They found a dead body the other day.
17:49 <Saerydoth> NRC?
17:49 <Saerydoth> nuclear regulatory commission?
17:49 <Cepheid> National Research Council.
17:49 <Cepheid> They do research on all sorts of stuff.
17:49 <Saerydoth> ah
17:49 <Saerydoth> lol
17:49 <PrincessBigMac> New Red Candy?
17:50 * Saerydoth isn't familiar with Canadian 3 letter acronyms
17:50 <Cepheid> Such as safety of materials for building construction, new power systems and ways to distribute power, and yes, nuclear-related stuff.
17:50 <Saerydoth> here if you say NRC people will assume you mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Regulatory_Commission
17:50 <Cepheid> Ah.
17:50 <PrincessBigMac> Most people are not Saerydoth
17:51 <Saerydoth> the only nuclear site (at least in the western world that really scares me is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site
17:51 <Cepheid> If any building you visit in Canada is guarded by the Commisionaires, gods help your soul and the souls of those within the building.
17:52 <Cepheid> Most commissionaires are terrible guards. They're often elderly people who are either veterans, or just overly sensitive and entitled brats.
17:52 <Cepheid> So the elderly equivalent of millenials, apparently.
17:52 <Saerydoth> so, baby boomers
17:52 <Saerydoth> lol
17:54 <Cepheid> More or less.
17:55 <Cepheid> My mother has a lot of trouble with them. Many of them simply either don't want to listen to my mother, or actually go above her head about a lot of things. Mostly because she's a woman. It's since gotten worse now that my mother is the captain of the security detatchment at the NRC.
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17:55 * Schism randomly says, "I know who killed Laura Palmer."
17:57 <Thelema5> Weren't they supposed to e releasing a new season of Twin Peaks?
17:57 <Thelema5> I've heard no news
17:58 <Schism> Yup, on the 22nd of May. Laura Palmer wasn't kidding when she said, "I'll see you in 25 years."
17:58 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/v0uoG
17:58 <Thelema5> Is David Lynch directing?
17:58 <Thelema5> Or at least involved?
17:59 <Schism> David Lynch and Mark Frost.
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17:59 <Thelema5> Sweet!
18:00 <Schism> Yussss. It'll be hard to live up to the cult classic, but I suspect it should be enough to get our minds all askew again.
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18:01 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/1CGWZhE Today I learned snakes are adorable when drinking water.
18:01 <Thelema5> As long as Kyle MacLachlan reprises his roles as Special Agent Dale Cooper I'll be happy
18:01 <Thelema5> *role
18:02 <Schism> Why yes, he is returning to reprise his role. o3o Not the main character, but he'll be there.
18:02 * Schism is the bearer of good news.
18:02 <Schism> Cepheid: Freakin' HackNet is a pain in the tail.
18:02 <Thelema5> Yay
18:03 <Schism> Thelema5: Sadly, the part of Agent Phillip Jeffries will not be reprised by David Bowie. :(
18:04 <Thelema5> Clearly
18:04 <Schism> Cepheid: Also, sneks are adorbs, yes.
18:05 <Schism> Also, Thelema5: This area of the game 'Kingdom of Loathing' might make you giggle. Particularly the non-combat adventures. http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Twin_Peak
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18:06 <Thelema5> ^ just jumping in on mobile to view the link
18:06 <Schism> Here, this one in particular is grand. http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Welcome_to_the_Great_Overlook_Lodge
18:07 <Thelema5> Heh
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18:08 <Schism> It's a very silly place, and there are so many references that it's just plain ridiculous.
18:08 * Thelema5 gets called in to a meeting
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18:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Un-BEE-Lievable / Love / Recall 239 / What Comes 3 / Crush 186 / Falling Star 5 [ http://tinyurl.com/mj8qdfo ]
18:11 <Cepheid> In other news I gave up trying to teach Spitfire a trick
18:11 <Cepheid> It's kind of impossible at the moment because of my mother.
18:12 *** Sleeping_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
18:13 <Schism> Ah, she keeps sabotaging those efforts?
18:13 <Schism> Undoubtedly by giving Spitfire treats on common occasion.
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18:15 <Cepheid> When Tizzy came into the house, my mother wanted to get Tizzy to love her. A lot.
18:15 <Cepheid> So every night, she gave the cat treats.
18:15 <Cepheid> This continues to this day.
18:15 <Cepheid> When Spitfire came into the house, he started getting treats every night as well.
18:16 <Cepheid> As a result, he gets treats for doing nothing other than being a cat. It interferes with the whole "train by giving treats when he does omething I request."
18:16 <Schism> Well, being a cat is what they do best, but yes, that kinda puts the kibosh on that. Perhaps try something different from treats, like tuna?
18:18 <Cepheid> I'm not sure. In any case, at the moment I *AM* trying to get him used to having his teeth and gums rubbed by me.
18:20 * Cepheid starts up a new Terraria server. This time on normal difficulty.
18:20 <Schism> Run, Spitfire! It's a trap! He just wants to brush your teeth more often!
18:22 <Cepheid> More or less.
18:22 <Cepheid> He needs it, too.
18:22 <Cepheid> Two small "dots" of tartar buildup on his rear upper teeth.
18:22 <Schism> Yeesh. Yeah, then.
18:25 <PrincessBigMac> I haven't played Terraria in a long time
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18:29 * Cepheid wanders off to shower.
18:29 *** SleepingBat is now known as CuddleBat
18:29 * Schism applies CuddleBat to Gladiolus and Filly_Nightmares.
18:29 * CuddleBat applies cuddles and love muchly!
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18:40 <Librarian> my dog escpaed again and bit a smaller dog
18:40 <Thelema5|away> Oh no!
18:40 <Librarian> (expletive delleted)
18:40 *** Thelema5|away is now known as Thelema5
18:41 <Thelema5> What will happen now?
18:41 <Librarian> nothing much, i paid the vet expenses and apologized a lot
18:42 <Thelema5> Ah, well at least you got to bring the dog home
18:42 <Schism> Certainly could've been worse. Did your dog at least have the decency to turn its teeth against a chihuahua?
18:42 <Librarian> a pug
18:42 <Schism> Aw. That's no good. :(
18:43 <Schism> But yea, at least you got away with just the equivalent of a fine and an apology.
18:43 <Librarian> its the second time it happened
18:43 <Librarian> different dog got bit, but same scenario
18:43 <Thelema5> Gotta keep that pupper contained
18:43 <Librarian> some moron in my house lets the dammned door opened and the dog got out
18:43 <Schism> ngh. I take it that the third time is unlikely to result in light consequences like that.
18:44 <Schism> And for the love of Eris. Find who's doing it, and castigate them.
18:44 <Librarian> i did
18:44 <Thelema5> Who let the dogs out
18:44 <Schism> Ah. Then if it happens again, make _them_ pay.
18:44 <Librarian> they were two different people, both my dads drivers
18:45 <Librarian> first guy had alheimerz
18:45 <Librarian> the other is just an idiot
18:46 <Thelema5> Maybe you could install a buzzer on the door which rings when it is ajar to remind them in the future
18:46 <Librarian> had to happenn on my happy week
18:46 <Librarian> good idea
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18:48 <Librarian> at least the owner of the poor dog was reasonable
18:48 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_9-1T7VoAAt1mL.jpg:large
18:48 <Librarian> thtas a cat
18:48 <Librarian> i can swear it under oath
18:49 <Librarian> when are the nebula award?
18:50 <Schism> HUH... Thelema5, Cepheid, evidently there's a MUD out there, PvP-based, where the goal is to break into NPCs' and other players' digital accounts and steal their bits. How do you do this? Via scripts and programs written in the game's language, which propogate virally.
18:50 <Cepheid> I'm familiar with the game.
18:51 <Librarian> did you hear about the ransomware thing?
18:51 <Cepheid> Yeah.
18:51 <Schism> There's always a new ransomware, Librarian.
18:51 <Schism> It's a neat twist on your standard PvP game... anyway, what's the new thing?
18:51 <Librarian> its on the news, heavy duty stuff
18:52 <Cepheid> This one's just prevalent because it involves a security vulnerability that the NSA did not disclose to Microsoft. The NSA also used the vulnerability to snoop on people.
18:52 <Schism> Ah, NSA exploits and that sort of thing...
18:52 *** CuddleBat is now known as [AFK]
18:52 <Cepheid> Thus reinforcing the whole "Why backdoors, intended or unintended, are a bad idea."
18:53 <Librarian> i had the check and rechcek the updates and kaspoersky of everythin in the office
18:53 <Cepheid> A better idea is to update Windows if you haven't suffered the Ransomware yet.
18:54 <Cepheid> As the vulnerability has been sealed.
18:54 <Schism> Right, I think a reboot is a good idea.
18:54 <Schism> There is honestly no reason why intentional backdoors should even exist in today's software.
18:54 <Cepheid> Unfortunately the NSA, FBI and governments disagree.
18:55 <Schism> The old saw applies. If a secret passage exists, sooner or later your enemy will discover and make use of it.
18:55 <Schism> And this is even more darkly hilarious when that exists on HOSPITAL NETWORKS RUNNING SERVER 2003, thank you Ontario.
18:56 <Cepheid> IT departments at this rate are going to see a lot of sudden firings for this.
18:56 <Librarian> on another topic, is the sadpuppies problem still a thing on the nebulas and hugos?
18:56 <Schism> Oh, no doubt. Good on you for keeping up with things, Librarian.
18:56 <Schism> Ehhh, nah. The Puppies went home with their tails behind their legs last year, I heard, and so the whole nonsense with Theodore Beale has pretty much dried up.
18:56 <Cepheid> Since the usual solution is to simply keep up-to-date, and the IT departments take their slow time to update. And then there are companies who just outright refuse to upgrade to a newer OS because of software incompatibilities, etc. Which can be solved for a lot less than this ransomware problem is probably costing them.
18:57 <Librarian> i have that issue
18:57 <Schism> I /think/ Worldcon took the time to actually push through different voting rules which should prevent such slates from being established again.
18:57 <Cepheid> Hire a programmer, give them the sourcecode to your software. Tell them to do a quick and dirty update to the software so it runs on more recent versions of the OS.
18:58 <Schism> Or even see if you can run it in a compatibility mode, on those operating systems with that option.
18:58 <Cepheid> Compatibility mode is a little unreliable, but yes that is a viable option to try too.
18:58 <Schism> Or - in some cases - use Citrix. Which is not my favourite item in the world, but can be helpful.
18:58 <Schism> Also, BRB.
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18:59 <Cepheid> I need to trot off too. Got some basic chores to do.
19:00 <Divide> Good idea.
19:00 * Filly_Nightmares noms Divide
19:00 <Divide> I should poke around, clean up the apartment, put stuff away now that winter's pretty much done...
19:00 * Divide provides Filly_Nightmares with a $2 steak and cheese panini with extra peppers!
19:01 <Librarian> winter wrap up?
19:01 * Filly_Nightmares noms all of it! She likes the peppers?
19:01 <Filly_Nightmares> !
19:01 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o
19:01 <Divide> Peppers are of the nom. o3o
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19:04 <Divide> And it's not a cheesesteak unless you add peppers to it. Green bell peppers, in Ali's case, as she doesn't do the spice.
19:05 * Ali doth not, is wimpypon
19:05 <Divide> At least sweet bell peppers are still tasty?
19:06 <Divide> And they have literally 0 capsaicin. o3o
19:07 <Ali> Pretty much :P
19:07 <Divide> C'mooon, Windows 8. Update already. ._.
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19:07 * Ali boops Divide to Win10
19:07 <Divide> (Not bad, it's just taking its time. My fault, really...) Augh. Nuuu... Cortana is made of evil and spite.
19:08 <Cepheid> If my mother were home, she'd be telling me to stop cleaning and sit down.
19:08 <Cepheid> 'Cause I'm shaking uncontrollably.
19:08 * Divide passes Cepheid a glass of spicy Clamato with no vodka, but plenty of other additives.
19:09 <Cepheid> I'm fine. It's just possibly low blood-glucose.
19:09 <Divide> Definitely drink some juice, then. Maybe have granola bars.
19:10 <Cepheid> Hum, factorio update.
19:11 <Divide> They're going through quite a number of them. Fix one thing, 20 bugs crop up.
19:11 <Cepheid> This is typical and normal for game dev.
19:12 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Story: An Artist Among Animals [ http://tinyurl.com/n52a67a ]
19:17 <Divide> Hrmf. Some updates didn't go through... I really hate how sometimes, Microsoft's little update process refuses to keep track of prior installations.
19:17 <Divide> Not Windows installations, but patch ones.
19:19 * Filly_Nightmares sits on Ali
19:20 * Ali squeaks at Filly_Nightmares
19:23 * CleverDerpy squeaks at ali
19:23 * Ali glomps on the CleverDerpy
19:23 <CleverDerpy> eep!
19:28 <Finwe> Lt CleverDerpy!
19:28 <Finwe> o7
19:28 <Divide> rAdm. Finwe.
19:28 <Finwe> Mr Divide, Miss Ali.
19:28 * Finwe doffs his hat.
19:28 <Finwe> And Mr Cepheid.
19:28 * Finwe re-doffs his hat.
19:28 * Divide doffs their panini. And offers Finwe also a similar submarine sandwich.
19:28 * Finwe also group hugs the aforementioned ponies.
19:29 * Divide brings Filly_Nightmares into the snug!
19:30 <Divide> Somehow, Pac-Man 256 gets a bit more complicated the more you unlock...
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19:31 <Divide> 7200 points on that second or third try, and then later I obtained nothing of the sort, only as many as 2,000ish.
19:32 <Cepheid> Finally, OSAP application done.
19:32 <Cepheid> And this time well-ahead of time.
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19:33 * Divide nods! Should maybe do OSHA ahead of time.
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19:35 <Librarian> derpster
19:35 <Schism> Bmeh.
19:35 <Librarian> owo
19:35 <Cepheid> Chores are done.
19:35 * Cepheid opens window to get some fresh air in the room as well.
19:35 * Schism hats on Librarian, and provides a small block of halva.
19:35 <Finwe> Mr Librarian.
19:35 * Finwe doffs his hat.
19:36 * Bubs brohoofs Finwe
19:36 * Librarian doffs schism
19:36 <Finwe> /)
19:36 <Bubs> /)
19:36 <Finwe> (\
19:36 <Finwe> !clop
19:36 * DerpyBot clops her forehooves together excitedly
19:36 <DerpyBot> ..what?
19:37 <Bubs> good evening :)
19:38 * Filly_Nightmares noms Divide's face!
19:38 * Filly_Nightmares sits on Ali's neck!
19:40 * Thelema5 waves hello to everypony who joined recently
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19:41 <ppr> Techman likes to fuck kids in the ass!!
19:41 <ppr> hawthornbunny DerpyBot FrankkieNL|AFK Bigcheesegs raini endoriazel Fn mniip Electron shelvacu CyberJacob Googie Methos Pinmane Natani [AFK] Sour_Sweet Haruhi WorkingData Thelema5 Lorix_- poseyshy Shorttail_ Arteshin StarStream Saerydoth TImidTanuki|Work ArchPegasusMichael Koopz EndenDragon Xiagu
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19:41 <[AFK]> Wow...that POS was on Ponychat as well.
19:41 <WuBzY> (ᐛ)
19:41 <Haruhi> This is half the reason why I don't come on here anymore.
19:42 <Schism> Oh, good heavens. That's a rare occurrence, Haruhi, thankfully enough.
19:42 * Schism also provides Haruhi with a voodoo doll of Kyon.
19:42 <Cepheid> That doesn't happen as frequently as you think, Haruhi.
19:42 <Colgate> they're already banned anyways
19:42 <Cepheid> Princess-Luna, ADragonDreaming, Googie. Got a ban for you to check out.
19:42 <[AFK]> Just a random person that needs a lead pill injection.
19:42 <Cepheid> Ah. Nevermind.
19:46 <Saerydoth> nah, they need polonium tea :P
19:47 * Cepheid blares Persona 5 - Blooming Villain over headset. Runs up to the embodiment of his code weilding one of those old IBM keyboards as a weapon. Starts beating on the program.
19:47 <Saerydoth> which episode is considered "current" and suitable for discussion? I've watched all the Canadian releases
19:47 <Thelema5> The one referenced in the topic
19:47 <Saerydoth> ah
19:48 <Schism> I'm afraid that discussion on this channel is restricted to the American releases, which as Thelema5 said, is now at episode 6.
19:48 <Thelema5> Rarity being silly
19:48 <Saerydoth> ah k, I've seen the next 2 after that one
19:48 <Saerydoth> just gotta wait for discussion I suppose, or go to the spoiler channel
19:48 <Princess-Luna> equestriaspoilers is where you wanna go, yeah
19:48 <Thelema5> I'm refraining from watching ahead, I want to be able to discuss episodes here as I see them
19:49 <Saerydoth> I don't mind watching ahead as long as they are the full epsiodes and not incomplete workprints or something
19:49 <Ali> Good old spambots
19:49 <Saerydoth> yeah, I used to be an IRC admin back in my younger days
19:49 * Saerydoth is an old fart now
19:49 * Saerydoth remembers having to deal with idiots like that though
19:50 <Thelema5> Spambots are a dying fart
19:55 <Golden> Hm
19:59 <Thelema5> XD
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20:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Awesome Orchestral Symphony: Blue Note - A Wandering Soul [ http://tinyurl.com/mf2aua6 ]
20:12 * Bubble-Berry hats on the Thelema5
20:15 * Thelema5 admires his fancy adornment
20:15 * Bubble-Berry hoers Noise
20:20 * Filly_Nightmares eees
20:21 * Filly_Nightmares eees
20:21 <Filly_Nightmares> Woops
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20:25 * Filly_Nightmares eees
20:29 <Cepheid> Given Spitfire's behaviour as of late, I think it may be worth another try getting him used to the collar.
20:29 * Thelema5 offers everypony some corn chips and salsa
20:31 * Schism applies some of said salsa to a layered dip of refried beans, guacamole, sour cream, and sharp old cheddar.
20:32 <Thelema5> sadly, it is not delicious ghost pepper salsa, but a lowly generic variety purchased at the dollar general
20:32 <Schism> That's the best type to have with store-bought refried beans, cheap guacamole, and cheap cheddar cheese.
20:32 <Thelema5> :p
20:33 <Schism> Hey, makes sense. :P You don't want to use a really good 5-layer dip with a $1.50 bag of chips.
20:34 * Thelema5 adds some decorative gold leaf
20:34 <Cepheid> Speakin' o' beans..
20:35 <Cepheid> The mexican restaurant I went to over the weekend served these black beans in what appeared to be a beef gravy, or at least a gravy that was very dark, near-black in colour.
20:35 <Cepheid> I wish to know what the recipe is for those beans. They were good.
20:35 <Schism> I want to say mole sauce, but I'm not sure.
20:35 <Schism> Was it slightly sweet with notes of chocolate and coffee?
20:36 <Thelema5> That's mole, yeah
20:36 <Thelema5> Very long preparation time and dozens of ingredients
20:36 <Cepheid> I did not notice any flavours of chocolate or coffee in it. But then again I'm not usually that sensitive to taste.
20:36 <Schism> And no two recipes are the same.
20:37 <johnsey> just don't forget the main ingredient, which is required for all recipes: fresh mole.
20:38 <Thelema5> They are best dug in the early moring
20:38 * Ali boops johnsey
20:38 <Thelema5> XD
20:39 <Schism> You might actually ask Librarian if they know a recipe.
20:39 <Cepheid> Yeah, I was thinking that.
20:40 <Schism> The pronunciation, by the way, is 'meh'le' or something similar, as I'm given to understand.
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20:41 <Cepheid> So, I've come to a conclusion about any discussion regarding what a "gamer" is: It's a pointless effort. No one agrees, the conversations quickly become toxic, and within minutes, someone's invoked Godwin's Law, or called someone sexist, mysandristic, or mysogynistic.
20:41 <Schism> For sake of simplicity, let us just say that it's someone who enjoys video games as a hobby.
20:41 <Cepheid> That I will agree on.
20:42 <Cepheid> But the problem that causes disagreements is what constitutes a "video game" these days.
20:42 <Cepheid> Since videeo games exist on PCs, handhelds, consoles, and phones.
20:42 <Schism> Ah. I take it you also ran headlong into someone expressing disdain about what are commonly termed 'walking simulators'.
20:43 <Cepheid> I've encountered all types.
20:43 <Cepheid> I'm starting to think the fact that I've encountered so many types of people is partly why I just don't care what a lot of people say these days.
20:43 <Schism> Why would you subject yourself to such an inflammatory subset of fandom?
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20:44 <Cepheid> Most of the time I'm unaware of what's going on.
20:45 <Schism> Well, I can definitely understand why that would lead you to a detrimental view of humanity: you put three people in a room with a single question, and you'll get seven and a half different answers after an hour.
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20:45 <Princess-Luna> and an eventual fist fight
20:46 <Cepheid> Oh, my view of humanity isn't detrimental.
20:46 <Schism> Well, I did specify /one/ hour.
20:46 * Filly_Nightmares coughs!
20:46 <Cepheid> I just prefer not interact with much of humanity at this point. Let it do what it wants to do.
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20:47 <Schism> I guess I can see that... I have my own reasons for reaching the same conclusions, as troublesome as they are.
20:47 <Cepheid> That said, it may explain why I am more gravitating to cats now.
20:48 <Schism> Cats do tend to be fairly blase about reality.
20:48 * Schism stares at the Humble Bundle for this week. "Goat Simulator: Game of the Year edition."
20:49 <Schism> Well, goat of the year.
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20:49 <Schism> Librarian! We were just talking about you.
20:50 <Thelema5> That statement is perceived to be 100% toxic
20:50 <Thelema5> XD
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20:50 <Schism> And evidently poisoned him right on out of here.
20:50 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:50 * Gladiolus hugs li
20:50 <Gladiolus> awwwwwwwwwwwwww
20:50 * Gladiolus pouts
20:51 <Cepheid> In any case, I don't hate humanity. I just choose not to interact with it as much as possible. I... don't get along with it, and it generally doesn't get along with me. I'd rather just go about life peacefully and do whatever it is I do.
20:51 <Schism> There are certainly worse philosophies.
20:52 * Filly_Nightmares floofsplodes
20:53 * Schism rolls over to Filly_Nightmares and places a spinning plate on her head.
20:54 <Cepheid> If there was anything about humanity that I was still concerned about, it'd be the whole "I secretly want to die" mentality that you see all over the Internet, be it a joke, meme or seriously.
20:54 * Filly_Nightmares spins while the plate stays still!
20:54 <Schism> So... I just realized that I have a lot of games on my Humble account... it's kinda silly.
20:55 <Schism> Also, many, many of the MLP comics.
20:55 <iandalton> Cepheid I haven't heard of that
20:55 <iandalton> I mean, back in middle school, I came across deviantART accounts by kids who talked about cutting themselves
20:56 <Cepheid> iandalton: It's constant on various websites. The most prolific sites appear to be Reddit, Imgur and any of the *chan boards that have sections for stuff other than art.
20:56 <iandalton> I don't subscribe to any of the default subreddits
20:56 <Cepheid> And of course in competitive games, where "go kill yourself" is a regular insult thrown around.
20:56 <Schism> Many of us have those actions or events we've taken or undergone in our past which we desperately wish we could undo. While the sentiment has become a meme, and is generally meant as a joke, it's nonetheless a very real thing.
20:57 <Schism> And it sucks.
20:57 <iandalton> Cepheid actually come to think of it a lot of the subs I subscribe to are more likely to have people shout down anyone who throws around "go kill yourself" type rhetoric, it's just rude
20:57 <Cepheid> Oh, I'm aware of these actions. I feel utterly distressed and embarassed about it, but I usually don't wish I was dead over it, and the feeling tends to pass within minutes anyways.
20:57 <Cepheid> Because my brain gets distracted by some- Ooh, code.
20:58 <iandalton> Schism inner kung fu, man. Cultivating the inner self is the most important thing.
20:58 <Schism> Mm. That's just the way I am. I get those feelings, but before it gets disruptive or destructive, I wind up getting distracted by a pigeon or something. I consider this to be entirely healthy and the mark of a sane mind.
20:58 <Cepheid> Your past will always come back to haunt you. Best to realize this, and just let the feeling pass when it happens, then go back to what you're doing.
20:59 <Cepheid> Not always possible early on when an event that leads to that type of behaviour later on in life happens, though.
20:59 <Cepheid> As you've seen with me and how I'm handling a certain game.
20:59 <iandalton> Schism I think if you're dwelling on it, it's unhealthy. Feeling those feelings is natural, but when people dwell on them they multiply them, which prevents them from living a healthy life.
21:00 <Schism> That's the thing. Neither Cepheid nor I actually dwell on those feelings, they're just a recurring sense of unease caused by certain patterns of thoughts, which we work through.
21:00 <Schism> Er, if I understand your way of thought correctly, Cephy. Sorry for speaking for you.
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21:00 <iandalton> In that case, I have moments like that too.
21:00 <Cepheid> There are times when I dwell on things that have happened. But it's usually immediately *AFTER* something that has happened.
21:00 <Schism> That just sounds like you're processing it.
21:01 <Cepheid> As my brain tries to... process what happened and why.
21:01 <Cepheid> Then after that, I usually just recall it maybe every few months to a few years.
21:01 <Cepheid> And while in the recent past, they may have locked me up, for some reason they no longer do that.
21:01 <Schism> Mneh, sounds normal to me, but I'm already a nutball.
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21:04 <iandalton> if we're defining normal as how people actually are, and not a cultural ideal, that's within the normal range
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21:04 <Cepheid> Yeah, but a year or so ago, I was much worse, so..
21:05 <Schism> Let's just say that everypony in this channel is crazy.
21:06 <Thelema5> It's important to move forward and evolve.
21:06 <iandalton> Yeah, there's normal in the general population and then there's bronies
21:07 <Schism> And furries, and sci-fi fans, and gamers, and we really do hit all the venn diagram circles, don't we?
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21:08 <Cepheid> Truth told, I think a lot of why I've changed recently may have been due to that psychology class. I may have done terribly in that class, but I suspect as I studied for the course and learned about psychology in general, it may have influenced me a bit.
21:08 <Schism> We live, we learn, and sometimes we learn how to live.
21:09 <Schism> I need to get my tongue cut off or my fingers cut off, because I've clearly taken to spewing profoundities.
21:09 <Schism> profundities*
21:09 * Thelema5 is changing because of a personal crisis, and is now 40 hours in to his first detox from a 15 year heavy drinking dependency. Wish him luck staying out of the hospital
21:10 <Cepheid> So apparently, a guy who received $34,000 from his grandfather to kickstart a project of some sort, is now saying that millenials would be able to afford a house if they stopped buying avocado toast and coffees, and started saving money instead.
21:10 <iandalton> Schism have you learned about CBT?
21:10 <Schism> Not in any good sense.
21:11 <iandalton> Thelema5 oh wow, I wish you the strength to get through it
21:11 <iandalton> Remember the serenity prayer
21:11 <Schism> Thelema5: Okay, first things first, head to your nearest hospital and get your blood drawn for a test for... let's see, hemoglobin, you want to test your potassium, your phosphorous, your iron levels.
21:12 <Thelema5> I'm okay so far, Schism. I'm hoping to stay that way.
21:12 <Schism> You do NOT, and I repeat do NOT want to go cold turkey after that. Get a blood test, see what you're missing, because I will bet you $20 that your potassium is low.
21:12 <Schism> Thelema5, honestly. Get a blood draw, get the test done. Please.
21:12 * Cepheid wants the Persona 5 OST.
21:13 <Thelema5> We'll see. I'm pretty healthy otherwise, and take suppliments.
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21:13 <iandalton> Schism why this advice about potassium?
21:13 * Thelema5 eats a bananna
21:14 <Schism> Supplements are good. But they're broadspectrum anyway by design. iandalton: I've dealt with wonky blood sugars on a whole host of occasions, and alcohol tends to exacerbate those. Potassium depletion is a major symptom which doesn't usually show up but can result in some major issues.
21:15 <Thelema5> I'll pick up some potassium tablets on the way home, thanks!
21:15 <Schism> Bananas and the like are good. But seriously. Please, Thelema5, get a full-spectrum test if you're going off alcohol, and let your doctor know that you're doing so.
21:15 <Schism> Even, EVEN if you don't feel anything yet.
21:15 <Thelema5> I don't even have a doctor; haven't been to one in 20+ years
21:16 <Cepheid> I'ma wander off and get some exercise.
21:16 <Thelema5> I do appreciate the advice and will keep it in mind. I'll definately pick up some potassium pills
21:16 <Cepheid> Been meaning to try and get a regular exercise pattern going. I missed yesterday, so I might as well exercise today.
21:16 <Schism> Okay, insurance or not, find one. Do the damned test. Again, please.
21:17 <Schism> Potassium and phosphate. The latter is... almost as bad as what FreezeFrame goes through if she noms down on an uncoated pill, but it's a big necessity if you're depleted.
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21:20 <Thelema5> Thanks!
21:21 <iandalton> Schism about CBT, it's an area of psychology inspired partly by the stoic philosophers, who have been important to me.
21:21 <Schism> I'm not your doctor, of course. You'll want to have a blood draw done so that you can actually get a proper prescription for what you need. But Thelema5, dropping off a drug cold turkey is always going to carry with it some side effects, and those are just the big ones of which I know.
21:22 <Schism> I can almost guarantee that you're low on potassium, though.
21:22 <iandalton> They talk about dealing with stress, pain, and problems generally through cognitively processing them. You think about whatever the distress is, recognize it as something separate from you
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21:23 <iandalton> Recognize the difference between what you can control (the phenomenon itself, which is external to your will) and your choice of how to act (which is internal)
21:23 <Schism> iandalton: Ah, I see... I'm not familiar with that realm of therapy, but it does sound like something I should consider. And as the old saw goes, "the power to recognize what needs to be changed, the power to change what I can, and the power to perservere through that I can't."
21:24 <iandalton> yeah, the serenity prayer is also very in line with Stoic thought
21:24 <iandalton> btw, Stoicism the philosophy is different than stoicism the everyday adjective
21:24 <Schism> Heh, stoicism is also an interesting way to defeat wayward lines of thought which can lead to unbound solipsism.
21:24 <iandalton> it's not "remain stonefaced all the time," it's about recognizing what is and isn't in your control
21:26 <Schism> "Here's a problem which has presented itself." "How do I work around it?"
21:26 <Thelema5> Oh boy, it's time to go home!
21:26 <Thelema5> bye everypony, and thanks again, Schism
21:26 <Schism> Going home, for one. Take care, Thelema5.
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21:27 <Schism> I really do mean what I said to Thelema5. If someone simply drops off alcohol, it might not show up right away, but ... that can cause some severe issues. Especially if other health issues are extant.
21:28 <Schism> And withdrawal symptoms can be especially fierce after such a long time.
21:29 <Schism> I don't mean to say here that anypony shouldn't drink, least of all in public, but... keep all of this in mind.
21:30 <iandalton> it's good advice, and it's good to show you care
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21:33 <Librarian> thelema5
21:33 <Librarian> what happened?
21:33 <Cepheid> So much for exercise. I just pulled a muscle in my back, huzzah.
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21:33 <Schism> Librarian, he's fine, before you worry.
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21:34 <Librarian> thats good
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21:34 <Librarian> but waht happened?
21:34 <Schism> But he has decided to quit drinking after several years of doing so. So I demanded that he get a blood test and check his health before the anvil hits.
21:34 <Librarian> thtas going to be hard
21:34 <Librarian> he gave any reason?
21:35 <Schism> Exactly. And not exactly kind to one's personal musculature. He didn't, no.
21:36 <Schism> Regardless of reasons, he should get a checkup before that truck slams into him.
21:37 <Schism> So, Cepheid!
21:38 <Schism> I believe you wanted to ask if Librarian had a recipe for mole?
21:40 <Cepheid> Right right.
21:40 <Schism> Librarian: Cepheid recently ate at a Mexican-style restaurant and had black beans in mole sauce. Now, I advised him that every recipe for mole is unique and different, with regional variations thereof.
21:40 <Cepheid> Librarian, at the Mexican restaurant the other night, I had what appeared to be black beans in a very dark sauce of some sort. It was a side dish.
21:40 <Cepheid> Any idea what that would be? And if you know of a good recipe for it?
21:41 <Librarian> let me think
21:41 <Librarian> its beans in theri sauce
21:41 <Librarian> their sauce
21:42 <Schism> ... really? Just the beans, in spiced sauce?
21:42 <Librarian> my current cook makes great beans
21:42 <Librarian> ill ask her
21:42 <Cepheid> It'd be appreciated. I liked the beans and would like to learn how to make them.
21:42 <Librarian> one sec
21:42 <Cepheid> Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat the more you toot. *Gets shot*
21:43 <Schism> Cepheid: I'm sorry about the misinterpretation. I could've sworn... but then, it's hard to differentiate different types of kidney beans.
21:43 * Gladiolus hugs Librarian
21:43 <Schism> Also, beans in mole are delicious.
21:44 <Schism> Ah crap. The Humble Book Bundle has a lot of really, REALLY good books by a whole host of authors.
21:45 <Schism> And it's really freakin' good.
21:47 <Schism> The tinyBuild bundle is also well worth it. No Time To Explain is a superb piece of software in and of itself.
21:48 <Schism> Especially if you like time travel epics.
21:48 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/VAWAG ... Man, Capybaras are chill as hell.
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21:49 <Schism> And cow just sets hooves on its head and the capybara is, well, "Just another day."
21:50 <Librarian> cepheid
21:50 <Librarian> i got the recipe
21:50 <Librarian> its quite easy
21:50 * Schism readies his notebook.
21:51 <Librarian> you use beans, the black mexican kind
21:51 <Librarian> if unsure go to a mexican store and ask for ranchero beans
21:51 <Cepheid> Okie.
21:52 <Schism> Don't worry. We can get black beans up here regularly. No Name provides.
21:52 <Cepheid> Indeed.
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21:52 <Librarian> you also use either ham, bacon, mexican or argentian chorizo
21:52 <Schism> Chopped fine, I take it?
21:52 <Librarian> you boil the beans in water
21:53 <Librarian> you can also do it big, its to add taste mostly
21:53 <Schism> 'kay. So any sort of meat, really, depending on taste.
21:53 <Librarian> you fry the selected meat
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21:53 <Librarian> then you mix it up and add cilantro
21:54 <Librarian> thats it owo
21:54 <Schism> Hm. That's all it takes. Just... pork and beans.
21:54 <Cepheid> Nice.
21:54 <Cepheid> Thanks. I'll give it a try.
21:54 <Librarian> dpeending how soft you need it you leave it water overnight
21:55 <Schism> I think Cepheid's bean sauce was a little more than that... but definitely sounds like an option. And yeah, you want those beans nice and soft.
21:55 <Librarian> it was a sauce?
21:55 <Librarian> was it spicy?
21:56 <Schism> Cepheid's beans were in a thick, black sauce. That's all I heard.
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21:56 <Librarian> i think i could be a bean salsa
21:57 <Cepheid> It was spicy. Had a flavour that tasted something between mmm...
21:57 <Cepheid> Chicken and beef? It was dark.
21:57 <Librarian> could you see the beans?
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21:57 <Cepheid> Yes.
21:57 <Cepheid> They were definitely black beans.
21:58 <Librarian> a pic would be usefull
21:58 <Librarian> its most likely charro beans
21:58 <Schism> Cepheid: Was it a sweet or a savoury sauce?
21:59 <Librarian> http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/assets_c/2016/05/20160605-frijoles-charros-5-thumb-1500xauto-432297.jpg
21:59 <Librarian> something like that?
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22:01 <Cepheid> https://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/kTcCNT1DaxEAJ6WJkWEiOA/o.jpg The beans from this.
22:01 <Librarian> ahhh
22:01 <Librarian> i know those
22:02 <Schism> If we're dealing with pork... sear 1 lb. pork on stove, slice finely and remove any bones. Mix 1/4 cup diced pineapple, 1/2 cup green pepper, 2 cups drained beans as desired. Add one tablespoon finely diced cilantro, one teaspoon diced lemongrass, half an onion finely minced, and two cups of vegetable broth.
22:03 <Schism> Cook on medium in slow cooker and stir as necessary.
22:03 <Cepheid> Sorry for all the questions about mexican food. >.>
22:04 <Librarian> no problemo
22:04 <Librarian> its fun owo
22:05 <Librarian> its pretty simple
22:05 <Librarian> the recipe i gave you is correct
22:05 <Librarian> the black sauce is not sauce, its bean broth
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22:06 <Cepheid> Oooh, okay. Thank you kindly.
22:06 <Librarian> for spice just add your favorite chile to the meat, the mix as i tolfd you
22:06 <Librarian> i also reccomend the brothy sauce i gave thelema
22:06 <Schism> Ah, that really does make more sense.
22:07 <Schism> And it's pretty easy to make a broth of various types. o3o You set the pot on very low and boil the bones and salt for about 12 hours.
22:07 <Librarian> this one is special, is unique
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22:08 <Librarian> the lady that makes its its a family friend
22:08 * Schism nodnods...! "Unique recipes are a fun thing."
22:08 <Librarian> she even has a internet page owo
22:08 <Schism> Also, when an old lady gives you a recipe, she really means, 'You're never going to make this the way I do, but I'm going to have fun watching you try.'
22:09 <Librarian> https://igx.4sqi.net/img/general/200x200/3331385_DEk15ZRfpvrNoA_3r3e8LHFxhUrbZney2ncFAq4nhgs.jpg
22:09 <Librarian> this is the taco in question
22:09 <Librarian> we call it taco chelo
22:09 <Librarian> https://es.foursquare.com/v/tacos-chelo-originales/4e33633718a8efdb175931d1/photos
22:10 <Schism> And that looks like a cream sauce and parmesan from a can atop.
22:10 <Librarian> the lady in the green apron is the family friend
22:10 <Schism> No... mozzarella.
22:10 <Librarian> cotija
22:10 <Librarian> aged cheese
22:11 <Schism> Can't get that up here, I fear... not without paying a premium.
22:11 <Schism> However, cottage cheese, romane, and a host of others are available.
22:11 <Librarian> the chesse is the least of the trick
22:12 <Librarian> as ong as its salty cheese it will work
22:12 <Schism> Oh, I know. You probably have to heat up the fajitas until they're just rollable, but not hardened enough to actually snap.
22:12 <Schism> From there, filling them is the tricky part, and that's gotta be a timing thing.
22:13 <Librarian> its a tortilla
22:13 <Schism> Sorry, sorry, you're right.
22:13 <Schism> But I wonder, do you usually heat the tortillas in humid conditions?
22:13 <Librarian> yes, you fry them
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22:14 <Librarian> the taco is easy , you just make a taco and fry it
22:14 <Schism> So you have to be absolutely precise in how you handle them. Too long, they harden; too short, they're mush.
22:14 <Librarian> yep
22:14 <Librarian> the lady sells just meat bean and potatoe
22:15 <Librarian> the magic is the sauce
22:15 <Schism> Ah, it's always that one ingredient which is the hard part.
22:15 <Librarian> if you ever care to visit mexico city you have to try it
22:15 <Schism> I must say, they do look delectable.
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22:16 <Schism> And were I ever to visit Mexico City, I'd be sure to look you up so that we can poke each other with miniature-sized equines.
22:16 <Librarian> owo
22:16 <Librarian> i could take you to fun places, better than a standard tour
22:17 <Librarian> garibaldi with mariachis, a car visit to tepito
22:17 <Librarian> best food ever
22:17 <Schism> Undoubtedly! And if you ever find yourself within the confines of Kitchener, I know many of the best places to visit.
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22:18 <Schism> Especially a little African restaurant downtown which offers an injera plate, best eaten with five or more.
22:19 <Schism> Should you be unfamiliar with injera, it's a sour flatbread used as both meal and utensil. The platter, with several slices thereof, is served to the group, who use the bread to ensnare a variety of dips and sauces.
22:21 <Schism> In that respect, it's comparable to a group of folks eating a platter of pizza.
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22:22 <Librarian> i think i saw it on the simpsons
22:22 <Schism> Not sure if I've ever seen it there, but it really is the most available example of Ethiopean cuisine.
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22:24 <Schism> I now want to write a scene in which several Equestrians simply offer pizza to their Saddle Arabian neighbors, which are then well received.
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22:28 <Schism> "I should have you exiled." "For what? You were all prepared for a dreary little diatribe about the exuberance of Equestria, and I managed to turn it into a fun little social meeting." "You turned a diplomatic event into a pizza party!" "Good point. I like the way you put it better. Care for a cup of soda?"
22:31 <Librarian> i wanto to something with discord and my chaos goddessess
22:32 <Schism> You're welcome to use that last series of quotes if you prefer. I'm not sure I will.
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22:34 <Schism> "We meet with one another to share our ways." "Your point?" "Sharing slices of pizza with one another is a pretty good way to establish a diplomatic front. Everyone has their own tastes, but you can't get a feel for one another if you don't try anything new."
22:39 <Librarian> out of curiosty, what do you think this song means ?
22:39 <Librarian> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqLBxAn6XP4
22:39 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
22:39 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Matryoshka -Club Mix- (English Cover)【JubyPhonic + rachie】マトリョシカ
22:41 <Schism> "That's... Admiral Rockholdt, the minotaur ambassador, sharing drinks with Windclaw Gazer, the Gryphonian princess." "Guess they have more in common than either of us thought." "... you planned this." "Nonsense. But... sometimes, things work out just right, even if you can't plan for them."
22:41 <Schism> Librarian: Now watching.
22:44 <Schism> Ehnmn. Hard to say, that song. I want to think that it means that while parts of our life are easily shattered, we still remain.
22:46 <Librarian> owo
22:46 <Librarian> thtas a new one
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22:52 * Gladiolus noms Librarian
22:53 * Schism scans Gladiolus for Aspect affinities. Emotion, water, and wind. o3o
22:54 <Gladiolus> o3o
22:54 <Schism> Mutability, and lots of hugs.
22:56 * Gladiolus huuugs Schism
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23:00 <DARK> salut // re
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23:04 <ADragonDreaming> EXPLOSIONS
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23:08 <CleverDerpy> boom~
23:08 <CleverDerpy> heehee~
23:09 * Bubble-Berry hats on CleverDerpy
23:09 * CleverDerpy pets Bubble-Berry
23:10 * Bubble-Berry hoers noises
23:10 <Cheyed> hey
23:10 * ADragonDreaming nibbles on Cepheid
23:11 <CleverDerpy> thank you~
23:11 <CleverDerpy> hiya Cheyed
23:11 <Starwatcher> hi Derpy
23:11 <CleverDerpy> hiya Starwatcher, Bubble-Berry
23:11 <Braixen> hi CleverDerpy
23:11 <CleverDerpy> ADragonDreaming
23:11 <CleverDerpy> and Braixen
23:12 <Cheyed> what are you all doing? ^^
23:12 <ADragonDreaming> warframe
23:12 <CleverDerpy> Derpy is trying to say hiya to everyone
23:12 <Braixen> HAwken
23:12 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Twilight Magical Princess Twilight Sparkle Gets Packaging and Stock Image [ http://tinyurl.com/kyodfou ]
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23:14 <Cheyed> here are 111 users and only like 4 are chatting?
23:14 <SunsetShimmer> Sometimes that happens
23:14 <Cheyed> ahats boring cx
23:15 <SunsetShimmer> IRC's are like tides...they flow
23:15 <SunsetShimmer> and sometimes the tide goes out
23:15 <Cheyed> does someone has maybe interesting to give me a drawing request? ^^
23:16 <SunsetShimmer> Doesn't look like it right now but who knows
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23:16 <ADragonDreaming> Draw discord fighting a dragon.
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23:17 <SunsetShimmer> on the back of a flying pig
23:18 <Cheyed> well doesn´t seems so ;P
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23:18 <ADragonDreaming> thought so.
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23:39 * Cepheid flops. Stomach is curdling on him.
23:40 <Cepheid> See also: Extremely on edge, avoidant to a degree for some reason as a result.
23:40 <ADragonDreaming> ah
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23:43 <Librarian> im bored
23:43 <Librarian> waiting for fire emblem is boring owo
23:43 <Librarian> yet im gratefull my only worry is a game release, that means everything is going great
23:50 <SaultSteMarie> woo, think I got my mod for Creaturs 2 working
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23:58 <CleverDerpy> my dad used to play creatures 3
23:58 <CleverDerpy> huh... I haven't heard of the series in a long time
23:58 <CleverDerpy> especially from anyone but him
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