Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2017-06-13

00:01 <Cepheid> I'ma trot off for a bit.  Be back later.

00:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Grab Fab / Apple / Makeup / Royal Problem / Rye 2:19 / I Do Now 1 / Arrival 3 / Reality 55 / Wind Mage 97 / Rogue Diamond 9:1 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9fad2ug ]

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00:06 <Vulpor> sony begins now

00:08 <Vulpor> Sony gots to bring the surprises

00:08 <Vulpor> c'mon Santa whatchya got in dat bag

00:12 <Ali> NADA :P

00:15 <Vulpor> Shenmue 3 lol

00:16 <SunsetShimmer> I just want RE2 remake details. D:

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00:25 <Vulpor> knack 2

00:25 <Vulpor> september

00:27 * Ali sits on SunsetShimmer

00:29 <SunsetShimmer> x3 *Cuddles an Alipon'*

00:41 <Chaosweaver> What I want will never happen. Bloodborne on PC>

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00:48 <Tirek> I'm around now, Schism.

00:49 <Schism> Twilight`Sparkle and I are discussing similarities in parts of Undertale's soundtrack.  Leitmotifs and their association with the story itself.

00:51 <Schism> And how those motifs carry on through various areas, such as those before facing Undyne.

00:51 <Lumindia> yeah, Toby Fox loved using the same base melody for a lot of things

00:51 <Lumindia> like all of Mettaton's themes end up being reused in "Death by Glamour"

00:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> Also Core and Hotland

00:52 <Twilight`Sparkle> Undyne combines ruins and waterfall and a couple other things.

00:52 <Schism> Lumindia: That doesn't count.  "Death by Glamour" was more a medley of all of Metatton's appearances, a climactic example.

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00:53 <Twilight`Sparkle> why doesn't that count?

00:53 <Lumindia> It totally counts. :V

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00:53 <Schism> Well... okay, it counts, but at the same time, Mettaton was responsible for all of those songs in the first place, and... okay, it counts.  :<

00:53 * Cepheid flops back in.

00:53 <Schism> Mettatton cheats the fourth wall anyway.

00:54 <Schism> Cepheid: One of these days we're going to get you to play that damned game.

00:54 <Cepheid> No.

00:54 <Schism> I deny your denial!

00:54 <Twilight`Sparkle> Eh. Play it if you want.

00:54 <Verandure> Undertale is overrated. =P

00:55 * SunsetShimmer never cared for it

00:55 <Schism> Curse you all, curse youuu!

00:55 <Twilight`Sparkle> Everything is overrated.

00:55 <Twilight`Sparkle> By someone.

00:55 <Verandure> That is true.

00:55 <Verandure> Everything is overrated, by me.

00:55 <Verandure> Especially me.

00:55 <Schism> But honestly, Metatonnn was a pretty great character.

00:55 * PowerPlay flops on Cepheid

00:56 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up.

00:56 * Filly_Nightmares floofsplodes!

00:56 <Lumindia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_1648912627&feature=iv&src_vid=zjk0r0hyid0&v=XmVYtOmCQqU

00:57 <Twilight`Sparkle> There is, however, a reason that I'm conversing on these things with Schism in a query instead of here.

00:57 <Twilight`Sparkle> Which is basically that the rest of y'all aren't as into it.

00:58 <Verandure> I'm just teasin', anyways.

00:58 <Schism> And we aren't spoilin' too much.  Even if Metaaton is weird.

00:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> I do very much enjoy reading this analysis of /how/ all the musical parts are put together, though.

00:58 <Twilight`Sparkle> It shows some real thought went into it.

00:59 <Schism> That much I'll happily appreciate.  But the best part is that such an analysis is a spoiler in and of itself.

01:02 * Filly_Nightmares noms air

01:02 <Tirek> I agree with Verandure's assessment. Undertale is highly overrated.

01:02 <Tirek> Except the soundtrack. The soundtrack's fun.

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01:03 <Twilight`Sparkle> See, statements like these are why I always keep my displays of intense enjoyment subdued.

01:03 <Cepheid> Let's see how hot my room gets with just the server machine running.

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01:04 <Tirek> Furthermore, the game combines two of my least favorite genres of video game into one monster.

01:04 <Tirek> JRPG and bullet hell.

01:04 <Tirek> No thank you.

01:04 <Lumindia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ReuchSYXJM&index=17&list=PLuA-xLy_5rzcZTEy9XaHGVYRsAknT_VBI WELL THEN

01:04 <Cepheid> Is it fall yet?

01:05 <Lumindia> So that's a thing

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01:05 <Lumindia> "The Choice" is actually part of "Undertale" slowed down by a lot

01:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> ...it's a JRPG?

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01:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> I mean I guess...?

01:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> Sort of?

01:06 <Tirek> Of course it is.

01:06 <Vulpor> super hot coming to ps4 VR

01:06 <Tirek> It doesn't have to be Japanese to be a JRPG.

01:07 <Twilight`Sparkle> I guess I'm not parsing the meaning of JRPG in this sense.

01:07 <Tirek> Turn based combat. Lots of walking around. Random battles.

01:08 <Tirek> Fight, Spells(or Action in this game, I guess), Items, Run.

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01:08 <Tirek> This gets turned on its head near the end of the game and becomes a straight up bullet hell, yeah.

01:09 <Twilight`Sparkle> >.>

01:10 <Tirek> I just don't like games like that and I never will, because the gameplay just gets in the way of my enjoyment of the story, even so far as preventing me from progressing the story sometimes.

01:10 <Tirek> ESPECIALLY with the bullet hell stuff, which I'm even worse at.

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01:10 <Twilight`Sparkle> I get what you mean but if you're using Act and Mercy each fight is more of a puzzle.

01:11 <Tirek> Its still BORING

01:11 <Tirek> Give me a book instead, sheesh.

01:11 <Twilight`Sparkle> Sure, but I wouldn't call it JRPG in that sense.

01:12 <Cepheid> Sekai Project bundle.  Humm.

01:12 <Vulpor> Undertale coming to ps4

01:12 <Vulpor> yay

01:12 <Twilight`Sparkle> Sekai?

01:12 <Cepheid> Company that is primarily known for visual novels.

01:12 <Cepheid> Often of a certain type.

01:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> ...

01:15 <Cepheid> As I understand it though, they're mostly just focused around cute scenarios and have censorship switches for anything offensivev.

01:15 <Vulpor> ninu kuni 2 november 10th

01:17 <Cepheid> At the moment, the cat-ice-cubes have a thin layer of ice.

01:17 <Schism> By the way.  Some players treat Undertale as though it's something unique, but I wonder how many of you have played Iji?  And managed to pull off pacifist runs therein?

01:21 <Verandure> Not I, said the fly.

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01:21 <Verandure> Not many things are actually unique.

01:22 <Heartbreak> Narf!

01:22 <Verandure> Nearly everything is derivative.

01:22 <Verandure> Yolah, Heartbreak.

01:22 * Heartbreak noogies Verandure!

01:22 * Cepheid melts.

01:22 * Cepheid becomes a multicolored pool of marshmallow goo.

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01:23 <Schism> Cepheid: You should play level 1 of Iji on 'Reallyjoel's Dad' mode.  It's entirely possible to beat.

01:23 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Monster Hunter World!

01:23 <Twilight`Sparkle> you liar.

01:23 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> On Ps4

01:23 <Schism> No, you can do it!  Kill everything there and unlock everything...

01:23 <Schism> ... grnhmnhr.  But you can't continue.

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01:24 * Verandure explodes in a whirlpool of things 'n' stuff.

01:25 * PowerPlay reforms Cepheid into a pony again*

01:26 * Heartbreak boops PowerPlay.

01:28 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pinkie Pie #9 on WatchMojo's Top 10 Cartoon Characters Destined to be Iconic [ http://tinyurl.com/y8w2k3o6 ]

01:30 <Cepheid> That Monster Hunter game looks interesting.

01:30 * Filly_Nightmares noms herslef

01:31 <Cepheid> PC version is coming, it seems.

01:35 <Cepheid> With it being on the PS4 and XBoxOne, the fandom will be split once more, warring for which platform the series should be on.

01:39 <Vulpor> monster hunter for ps4

01:39 <Vulpor> looks dope

01:39 <Vulpor> dlc for horizons

01:40 <Vulpor> uncharted thing coming

01:42 <Cepheid> Vulpor:  Also XBoxOne and PC, apparently, Monster Hunter.

01:42 <Twilight`Sparkle> PC Mastah Race

01:42 <Vulpor> I never played one before

01:42 <Schism> Cepheid: I want to see you stream Iji.

01:42 <Cepheid> On one hand, I'm curious as to how it will do, given it seems to have an open-world-like appearance, and lots of new mechanics.  But on the other hand, I prefer the existing mechanics.

01:42 <Twilight`Sparkle> but that's moslty because I own neither PS4 nor XBONE.

01:43 <Cepheid> Twilight`Sparkle:  Heh.

01:43 <Cepheid> I'm also concerned about multiplayer.  None was shown, and if it's multiplatform, how's multiplayer going to be handled there?

01:44 <Vulpor> shadow of the colosus remake thing

01:44 <Cepheid> I'm meh about that.  I've already killed all the collosi several times now.  I'd be more fine with it if it's going to have new collosi.

01:45 <Cepheid> And then a bunch of VR [REDACTED], because why not?

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01:46 * Lumindia highfives Twilight`Sparkle

01:46 <Lumindia> PC Mastah race~!

01:46 <Vulpor> story demo for marvel vs capcom infinite

01:46 <Vulpor> available tonight

01:47 <Vulpor> call of duty trailer now

01:47 * Cepheid melts.

01:49 <Vulpor> damn giant bomb

01:49 <Vulpor> their stream died

01:49 <Vulpor> i got nothing right now

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01:51 <Cepheid> If I try to maintain another Starbound server, I think I shall spawn a bunch of stuff to help get us building a starting base.

01:53 <Filly_Nightmares> I can host a Starbound serber. o3o3o3o3o

01:53 * Twilight`Sparkle will possibly attempt another undead core run in cave story.

01:53 <Filly_Nightmares> Doesn't Starbound have unlimited planets?

01:54 <Vulpor> god of war

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01:54 <Schism> Yes, but only those plants on which have been landed are actually active.

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01:55 <Schism> Pillow nom ahoy.

01:55 <Cepheid> Yeah, the server only keeps the planets that have players on them active.

01:55 <Cepheid> I think there's a workaround via mods to prevent this, for certain types of applications, though.

01:56 <Twilight`Sparkle> ...well, that's a good start.

01:56 * PowerPlay boops everypony

01:56 <Cepheid> Twilight`Sparkle:  Word of advice, don't die.

01:56 <Twilight`Sparkle> I just beat Misery with no damage.

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01:57 <PKid> ohio

01:58 <Lumindia> new jersey

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01:59 <Twilight`Sparkle> Adn the doctor with... much less damage than my last attempts.

02:00 <Schism> Blast you, brain.  Still awake.  That's an excellent start!

02:01 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/multitask_ryu/status/873934149274394626 Interesting use of a fidget spinner.

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02:02 <Schism> I am not joking about the Fireball against Corrupted Sue.  It's a useful counterpoint, and if you can then make use of the drops, that's a great way to regen at that point.

02:02 <Schism> The Bubbler, level 3, if you can spin it, is also a great counterpoint to Corrupted Misery.

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02:03 <Lumindia> SO

02:03 <Lumindia> I depart for bed

02:03 <Lumindia> but before I go, I leave you with this

02:03 <Lumindia> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/48/33/4e/48334e58e355da2a7c27011919ad89a2.jpg

02:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1106 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycev5p7y ]

02:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> Hm.

02:04 <Twilight`Sparkle> That went much more smoothly than in past attempts.

02:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> I think because I was less adrenalined.

02:05 <Schism> Were you able to take down the Core?

02:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> Yes.

02:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> In a single run.

02:05 <Schism> Excellent.  And now to enjoy the fun that is the Sacred Ground.

02:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> Maybe.

02:05 <Lumindia> Welcome to hell

02:05 <Schism> You CAN return from there after saving.

02:05 <Cepheid> This TV stand my parents bought has the worst design ever.

02:06 <Cepheid> The devices in it are overheating because there's no ventilation in the back, and has two doors you close around the devices.

02:07 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Cepheid, Ye got ps4?

02:10 <Cepheid> Yes.

02:10 <Cepheid> I'm aware.

02:10 <Cepheid> I am very aware of Monster Hunter World.  I'll likely go with the PC version.

02:10 <Filly_Nightmares> PC is gud.

02:10 <Filly_Nightmares> PC is floof.

02:10 <Filly_Nightmares> Floof is me.

02:10 * Filly_Nightmares floofs

02:10 <Filly_Nightmares> !hug

02:10 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3

02:10 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around Filly_Nightmares in a tight embrace

02:11 * PowerPlay floofs up Filly_Nightmares

02:11 <Cepheid> Only concerns I have with PC version are "Is it gonna be a poor port?" and "Players are gonna cheat like hell."

02:11 <Cepheid> Granted, as it is, players can cheat like hell on the console MH games now.

02:12 <Cepheid> Not hard to make use of an application to modify your save file, or to create a quest to give you the exact parts you need in return for killing a Felyne.

02:12 <Twilight`Sparkle> man that spike intro to sacred grounds.

02:12 <Twilight`Sparkle> you have /just barely/ enough booster.

02:13 <Cepheid> Yep.

02:15 <Schism> That's just the intro, too.  If you're really, really good you can get through room two with very careful use of booster - those boulders only hit you on the way down, not after they've bounced.

02:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> yeaaaah, alright.

02:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> we're not doing that tonight.

02:15 <Schism> Yeah, Sacred Ground requires a lot of patience and a lot of awake.

02:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> I've beaten it once before, I'll do it again at some point.

02:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> I'm just happy I rocked Misery, Doctor, and Undead Core so hard.

02:16 <Schism> Good enough.  o3o  If you've saved, you can return to the ending - the normal one - by reading the bookshelf.

02:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> Like I'd tried to beat them something like 20 times or so?

02:16 <Twilight`Sparkle> this last run, I should say.

02:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> Then I let it lie for a couple days and picked up tonight and breezed through.

02:17 <Schism> Congrats on that one!  And Sacred Ground is... well, it's Hell.

02:17 <Twilight`Sparkle> yes.

02:17 <Schism> That 2'57" one I am so happy to brag about?  Luck.  Sheer, idiotic luck.

02:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> The first booster sequence I can do now, I'm just needing to get used to the logn fall past all the triangle capsules and then actually get to the life capsule foothold.

02:18 <Schism> And maybe abuse of the super missiles when I got to Ballos.

02:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> well, yes, that's what they're FOR.

02:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> Also the knife.

02:18 <Twilight`Sparkle> when you can stand next to his eye.

02:18 <Cepheid> The Sacred Grounds are, in my opinion, harder than an Edmund McMillen level.

02:18 <Schism> Knife is... another option, yeah.  Knife level 2.

02:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> yes.

02:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> rack up the damage like no tomorrow.

02:19 <Schism> No kidding.  I make extensive use of that in a 3HP run.

02:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> Whne I first got access to Sacred Grounds the first tiem I played this game

02:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> I was like "whoah where'd this come from"

02:19 <Twilight`Sparkle> "sudden difficulty jump what the hell pixel"

02:20 <Twilight`Sparkle> and no I did /not/ get the tow rope on my very very first playthrough.

02:21 <Schism> Nobody does.

02:21 <Schism> Unless they're explicitly using a walkthrough, of course.

02:22 <Cepheid> Hum.  Pre-ordered Stormblood, still haven't gotten early-access key.  Poked Square about it.  "We ran out of a stock of early-access keys and will be restocking in a few hours."  *E-mail was received this morning at 1 AM, still doesn't have key.*

02:22 <Schism> Tha heck?

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02:23 <Schism> Twilight`Sparkle, on the other hand -- what was your reaction when you first went through the true Final Cave?

02:23 <Schism> With those delightful acid blood drops and the golem who ate your head for breakfast.

02:24 <Cepheid> I'm pestering Square about it.

02:25 <Schism> One does have to wonder how they run out of early-access keys for a primarily digital product.

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02:27 <Schism> There are admittedly retailers and resellers who have a certain limited supply of keys, provided by the company themselves.  Me, I generally use prepaid credit cards.

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02:28 <Schism> Which requires the use of a reseller, I fear, but one which is so tightly bound to Squeenix that I can't imagine they've run out of stock.

02:28 <Cepheid> This was directly from their store, mind you.

02:29 * Filly_Nightmares kneads wuv into Schism's floof

02:29 <Cepheid> And the explanation that they ran out of keys is ridiculous.

02:29 <Twilight`Sparkle> Key or money plox

02:29 * Schism doesn't nom on wuv! But provides Filly_Nightmares with some snuggles anyway.

02:29 * Twilight`Sparkle kneads LOVE into Schism's floof.

02:30 * Filly_Nightmares eats the love!

02:30 * Filly_Nightmares noms Schism next!

02:30 * Schism also does not nom upon love. But also drags Cepheid into Filly_Nightmares' snugs.

02:30 <Vulpor> ok overall sony did good

02:30 <Schism> The notion that keys are somehow in limited supply is... difficult to parse.

02:31 <Cepheid> Especially for digital orders.

02:31 <Cepheid> I would imagine the system just generates a new key when an order is processed.

02:31 <Schism> I can see a ... couple of different ways in which it makes a sort of sense.  Mind, this is so cross-eyed that it doesn't even fit the basis of reality.

02:32 <Twilight`Sparkle> Don't try to justify it on their behalf.

02:32 <Cepheid> The e-mail itself even goes "Below you will find an 18-digit key for your early-access, and how to redeem it." and the spot it mentions is blank.

02:32 <Twilight`Sparkle> Just ask them: "How did you run out of keys for a digital distribution?"

02:32 <Twilight`Sparkle> "Also, may I please have the key that I paid for?"

02:32 <Schism> No, I'm not justifying.  A key should have been created for every single paid account.

02:32 <Cepheid> And if I go into my account information to check the order, which is validated(paid for), and click "Unlock Code" and it just shows a generic "How to redeem your code" page with no code.

02:33 <Schism> Not /currently/ paid, but-- um... Cepheid.  Ypi

02:33 <Schism> You're using an ad blocker, right?  And flashblocker?

02:33 <Cepheid> Tried that.

02:34 <Schism> Other browsers too?

02:34 <Cepheid> Tried Firefox, same thing.

02:34 <Cepheid> And that was a fresh install.

02:34 <Schism> You're going to loathe me for this, but... IE/Edge?

02:35 <Cepheid> Just to satiate your irritating suggestion, I'll go try it.

02:35 <Schism> Not honestly trying to troll, I just figure, hey!  Maybe Squeenix picked the STUPIDEST possible option.

02:38 <Schism> Please tell me that high-pitched tone I'm hearing is just my imagination.

02:38 <Cepheid> Same case.  E-mail and Store still don't show a key.

02:39 <Cepheid> I also checked the invoice/receipt on the store, no key.

02:39 <Schism> So, going to give them about 24 hours before you start chewing their ears off?

02:39 <Cepheid> Already started.  It's been 18 hours since I received their automated response, which is longer than their advised "couple of hours"

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02:40 <Schism> Mmhmm then.  How exactly do you not overpopulate the key registry when you're an industry leader who have created one of the most popular games on the market?

02:40 <DinkyDoo> Only an hour left and my phone service dies

02:41 <Cepheid> How do you only have a limited number of keys for a digital-order product?

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02:41 <PowerPlay> Because buck you, give them bits.

02:41 <Schism> Then again, Squeenix have an ... interesting relationship with their products and the science of supply and demand, almost as interesting as Nintendo's.

02:42 <Cepheid> And maintenance, if some of their recent PC ports are any indication.

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02:44 <Schism> It sounds ridiculous.  It is ridiculous.  And yet... at the same time, I can almost, almost comprehend why Squeenix has a limited number of keys.  Hear me out, please.

02:44 * Cepheid sighs. "Fine."

02:45 <Schism> A variety of keys, which - by design - are created via an algorithm rather than made up out of whole cloth - are provided to each of Squeenix's resellers.  For physical copies, this is a given quantity which can be readily tracked from the moment of sale.

02:45 <Schism> This is a given, and a well-established reason for keys to exist.

02:45 <Cepheid> This is Square-Enix's store, it's a digital order, they already know that the order has been completed.

02:46 <Cepheid> It's taken my money already.

02:46 <Cepheid> Any amount of justification you can give me is just grade-A [REDACT] and, in all honestly, just going to piss me off further.

02:46 <Cepheid> So please, ENOUGH.

02:46 <Schism> Sorry.  Okay, done, done.

02:48 * PowerPlay comforts Cepheid

02:48 * Filly_Nightmares noms Cepheid

02:50 <Schism> You are right, of course, and I'm sorry for being ... well, frankly, obnoxious.

02:51 <Schism> I sincerely hope they get their act together and throw you the flippin' key soon.

02:52 <Cepheid> They have four days left, really, so...

02:53 <Schism> Two of which are server maintenance (ahem).  Which is its own 10,000 needles.

02:54 <Schism> ... oh gods.  I just imagined what Everybody's Grudge must look like.

02:54 <Schism> *doink* 999,999,999.

02:57 <Schism> Huh.  And now ... damnit, brain, stop doing this to me.  Gilgamesh using 100,000 Needles, because he somehow managed to survive the onslaught, and he is the ultimate Blue Mage.

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02:58 <Cepheid> I haven't seen it personally, but the one place you're likely to see it, I have seen, and it was a nightmare to heal the final boss of that place.

02:59 <Cepheid> Because most players just choose to burn the boss and ignore the adds.  But that results in the tank's HP dropping progressively faster and faster.

02:59 <Schism> For a moment, I parsed that as 'to heal the final boss'.

02:59 <Cepheid> When we finished, the tank was less than a second away from death.

02:59 <Cepheid> Ah, yeah, I could have worded that better.

02:59 <Cepheid> "Heal for the final boss" or "Heal the party during the final boss" would have worked better.

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03:00 <Schism> No, I got it... though you have to wonder.  That would be an interesting boss, one which you have to keep alive lest the adds wipe the party.

03:00 <DinkyDoo> What are you talking about? Gilgamesh? Needles?

03:00 <Cepheid> There is actually a battle where you have to heal an NPC continuously.

03:00 <Schism> DinkyDoo: Gilgamesh is a recurring foe within the Final Fantasy series.  He wanders through the multiverse in search of his eternal foe and ally, collecting weapons and generally being very, very silly.

03:00 <Cepheid> It's also a "boss" of a sorts.

03:01 <Cepheid> It's implied the NPC target you are healing is summoning monsters to kill you.

03:01 <DinkyDoo> Oh

03:01 <Schism> Like, Gilgamesh is very silly indeed.  Derpy silly.

03:01 <DinkyDoo> So he is like Gilgamesh from fate? The infanate storeroom of weapons to use in combat?

03:02 <Schism> Cepheid: That's interesting.  And the end run is to exhaust him, but not to let him perish?

03:02 <DinkyDoo> God that guy was over powered.

03:02 <Cepheid> More or less.  Keep it alive while the NPC keeps summoning.

03:02 <Cepheid> If it dies, you lose.

03:02 <Schism> DinkyDoo, Ermmm, not so much the Gilgamesh from SMT, no.  Though there are similarities, as they're both based off the Sumerian legend.

03:03 <Cepheid> No idea, DinkyDoo.  I've not actually fought Gilgamesh in FF14.  Yet.

03:03 <DinkyDoo> Ugh FF14

03:03 <Schism> Neither have I, Cephy, of course - but I've seen the run.  He likes to use Toad Song.

03:03 <Cepheid> It appears it involves the Hildibrand set of quests.

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03:04 <DinkyDoo> I already don't like that game. And I've never played it. Like you can have two classes on a character? Without dual classing? That defeats the whole purpose of the class system

03:04 <Schism> Hjildebrand?  Or Hildebrand.  Either way... he is a pain.

03:04 <Schism> Um, no.  Nonono.

03:04 <Schism> Each character has one singular class - at a time.

03:05 <Schism> You CAN take certain skills, but only certain ones, from other classes, and that's usually heavily restricted.

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03:05 <Schism> Much like how, in FF5, if you've mastered it, you can use white magic on a Black Mage class.

03:05 <Cepheid> The intent is basically to allow players to do whatever they want on a single character.

03:06 <Cepheid> That said, the best implementation of multiclassing I've ever seen would have had to be the system used in the MMO Rift.

03:06 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, that game became free-to-play, pay-to-win.

03:07 <Schism> I haven't seen that one, but I'm personally still a fan of Tabula Rasa despite its sudden nonexistence.

03:07 <Schism> It had a few points, but one of the big ones is that each character could be self-sufficient.

03:08 <Schism> That... didn't work out so well in actual play.

03:08 <Cepheid> Rift uses a system wherein you select a set of three souls, each representing a class, and then spending points on the skills within each soul to unlock various skills.

03:09 <Cepheid> You can change the set of souls at any time, and even make quickgroups to switch between.

03:10 <Schism> With the exception of that latter - which sounds like a very good way to make money - that almost sounds like Path of Exile.

03:11 <Cepheid> Except the respeccing is free, so can be done an infinite number of times to create whatever setups you want.

03:11 <Cepheid> Because of the pay-to-win stuff though, the game has been ruined.

03:12 <Cepheid> Two classes are literally behind a non-expansion-related pay wall, and boost potions are cheap.

03:12 <Cepheid> Among other issues.

03:12 <Schism> I'm a horrible person, Cepheid, because I'm now looking at that idea and saying, 'sure, you can respec everything, except THESE CERTAIN SKILLS except with a nice paid potion what's this Ragnarok Online thing never heard of it'.

03:13 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Wildstar, another decent MMO that was buggy for a while, but has since improved, also went free-to-play, with a pay-to-win nature about it as well.

03:13 <Cepheid> Two decent MMOs ruined by pay-to-win, in my opinion.

03:13 <Cepheid> In fact, Wildstar may very well have been the most fun one I've played, especially as a healer.

03:14 <Schism> I've a friend who plays that.  I am very quietly ignoring their request that I join them in the game, because A. NCSoft and B. FtP.

03:14 <Schism> Admittedly, the fact that it's NCSoft might have a teensy bit more to do with it than anything rational.

03:14 <Cepheid> Admittedly NCSoft's reputation is questionable when it comes to MMOs.

03:15 <Schism> ... yes.  Questionable.  Much like [insert political diatribe here] and [ctd.]

03:16 <Schism> I remain primarily upset at their handling of Paragon Studios.

03:17 <Schism> And, well.  Most of the other properties that have come into their wayward hands, but Paragon really gets under my tail.

03:17 <SaultSteMarie> I'm being stalked by the song Seven Nation Army>:t

03:18 <Schism> It's not like you're being stalked by the Queen of England, or the hounds of Hell.

03:19 * Schism sends a message back and forth behind a cigarette.

03:19 <Cepheid> I do not know why, but I feel irritable tonight.

03:19 <SaultSteMarie> dehydration! heat! general malaise from that... awareness of how mutedly terrible everything is and how you're never going to achieve your dreams!

03:20 <SaultSteMarie> ... er wait no that's me, nevermind

03:20 <Schism> Cepheid: Refill your water bottle?  Heat exhaustion is insidious.

03:20 <Schism> It /will/ creep in and it's a pain in the tail to deal with, I know.

03:20 * Cepheid sends the 203rd Air Batallion after SaultSteMarie.

03:21 <Cepheid> Schism, I ended up hospitalized for it.

03:21 <Cepheid> My mother's grating on my nerves about drinking water all the time because of the heat.

03:21 <Schism> Dehydration sucks.  Cepheid, you're lucky you didn't wind up hospitalized with worse... and I know that's not what you want to hear, but I'm serious.

03:22 <Schism> Also... Cepheid, when you found yourself with high blood glucose, did you acquire ketone strips?

03:23 <Cepheid> I was unable to stand, unable to sit.  I wasn't sweating because there wasn't anything to sweat.  When I arrived at the hospital, severe constant vomiting had set in, and the intravenous gravol didn't help.

03:23 <Cepheid> I did not.  My blood-sugar has since returned to normal though.

03:23 <Schism> That... is ketosis.

03:23 <Cepheid> Nah, dehydration.

03:24 <Schism> Dehydration, particularly severe, is one of those signs of ketosis.  I'm glad you're back to normal, but you should probably keep an eye on it.  A pack of ketone strips OTC is, like, $20 if that.

03:24 <Cepheid> The night before, I had been sitting in a room with no air conditioning, five high-speed scanners(which generate a LOT of heat) running, five computers, five monitors, all turned on, there was no window in the room, and we weren't allowed to have a fan running, have liquids in the same room, or leave too frequently to drink water.

03:24 * Ali boops Cepheid for getting dehydrated, then hugs them carefully.

03:24 <Cepheid> I was also wearing a full suit, and the next morning a massive heatwave hit and I had to walk for half an hour in it.

03:25 <Cepheid> Temperature was over 40 degrees with the humidity factored in that morning.

03:25 <Schism> Okay, that's gotta have some huge concerns... and okay.  You might want to try something besides just plain water, which I've done before.  Gatorade, powerade, or eating while you drink water.

03:25 <Cepheid> This was years ago, mind.

03:25 <Cepheid> Back then, my blood sugar was always between 3 and 5.

03:25 <Cepheid> My blood sugar only started acting up within the last year and a half.

03:25 <Schism> And now, between 3 and 10?

03:26 <Cepheid> 7 and 10, actually.

03:26 <Schism> That's ... hmm.  Within range for a T1 diabetic, but within the range where you might find yourself with the signs of T2 diabetes... but I remember you said you've seen an endo.

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03:27 <Cepheid> Trust me, they checked me at the hospital, my blood-sugar was fine that day as well.  They declared it just dehydration and gave me intravenous saline.

03:27 <Schism> And stress and all those factors and your general health situation... yeah.

03:27 <Cepheid> Yes.

03:27 <Cepheid> Most of my current health problems are likely due to a lot of the stress over the last two years, to be honest.

03:27 <Schism> Not surprising.  And of course there's the ENT thing.

03:28 <Cepheid> I reached some new, incredible lows with my depression over the last 2 years.  The last four or five months though I've improved considerably.

03:28 <Cepheid> That's not to say it's perfect, though.  I still occasionally have emotional flares that make me want to snap necks.

03:28 <Schism> You really are a lot higher and more positive than you used to be.  And Mr. Dionne, WELCOME TO LIFE!

03:29 <Cepheid> Really my biggest problems as of late are needing to see an ENT, and a psychiatrist to deal with my mania.

03:29 <Schism> Come freakin' on, who hasn't wanted to snap a few necks?

03:29 <Cepheid> Yeah, but in my case it just comes out of nowhere.

03:29 <Cepheid> Most of the time when people are bugging me, I'm usually calm and reserved about it.

03:30 <Cepheid> But every now and then, like maybe once every one or two months, my mind's just all "I've had enough of this."

03:30 <Cepheid> And even the slightest little problem is treated as provocation and pushes my temper to flare.

03:30 <Schism> ... I still don't understand how that's not a normal thing.  Especially when dealing with people at large.  The important thing is that we haven't actually taken that angry, petty voice to heart.

03:30 <Cepheid> I've punched a few walls in recent months.

03:30 <Cepheid> Fortunately no injuries.

03:31 <Cepheid> When I return to school I plan to pay for the gym membership so I can just go by every now and then and vent on a punching bag.  Alongside exercising.

03:31 <Schism> I have, and this is not actually a joke, come close to choking out a light fixture.  We deal with these things in constructive ways instead of destructive ones.

03:32 <Schism> It sucks... badly.

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03:33 <Cepheid> 'Cept the problem is that it happens over anything.  Not just dealing with other people.  Even small things, like finding lint or something in my room can poke me the wrong way when I'm in that mood.

03:33 <Cepheid> I honestly think it's more my temper just getting antsy for no reason, because it comes out of the blue for no reason, and basically makes me look for a fight.

03:34 <Cepheid> And deep down there is actually a small part of me that wants to get into a fist fight with someone.

03:34 <Schism> We are in... very much the same position here.  It doesn't matter how miniscule the trigger is, or how much of it is actually us versus someone else.  For me, I look at the carpets to my immediate right, and the fact that they are never, never in order is enough to give me a small twinge of anger.

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03:35 <Schism> Right now, exhaustion is a part of what's keeping me from spiraling into that.

03:36 <Schism> It's really, really hard not to start swinging, and not just physically, but verbally as well.

03:36 <Cepheid> As for why I'm like this, no idea.  I wasn't raised to fight, like my mother was.  It just seems to be an inherent part of me.

03:36 * Ali hugs the Cepheid and Schism

03:37 <Cepheid> I've always had it.  I am a terrifying person when pissed off, as I learned very acutely two decades ago.

03:37 * Schism hugs the Ali back. "Thanks. And I don't think there's any real cause. Some of us just got a little more chimpanzee in our monkey genes, I guess."

03:37 <Cepheid> Truth told, part of me wants to have my brain analyzed and compared against an analysis of my mother's brain, and that of her siblings, to see if there are any similarities or patterns somewhere.

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03:39 <Cepheid> We acquire traits partly from our DNA.  Can learned traits be transmitted this way?  For example, my mother and her siblings were raised as fighters by her father, solve problems by fighting and all that.  Is it possible for that behaviour to be passed on genetically?

03:39 <Schism> Here's the worst part of it all, and I don't have any proof of this, or any reason to believe this is true, but... for some reason it feels correct, and it's a damnation if ever there were.  You wind up in precise, locked, repeating patterns of thought a lot, Cephy?"

03:39 <Schism> Like one pattern of thought digs in like a tick?

03:41 <Cepheid> Yep.  That's actually what happens when my depression hits hard.

03:41 <Schism> And that has to keep you up, too, now and again.

03:41 <Cepheid> My brain begins focusing on one thing, trying to analyze it from as many positions as possible, in order to either try and see where I made a mistake, or how I could have done things differently.

03:42 <Schism> But no matter how much you analyze it, the knowledge remains that you did it, at some point.

03:42 <Cepheid> Doesn't happen as much anymore.  Last time it happened was back in March, I think.  And it was sparked by another classmate.

03:42 <Schism> Then good, that's definitely a step forward.  I do the same thrice-accursed thing from time to time.

03:42 <Cepheid> They started grinding me on something, can't remember what.  We went back and forth with words.  Eventually I just had enough and told him to shut his trap as he was going on and on and on.  He took one look at me, quieted down and backed away.

03:43 <Cepheid> He glared at another student who decided she'd step in and comment on the incident.

03:43 <Cepheid> Who then shut up.

03:43 <Schism> And that third student... was what sparked it, I guess.

03:43 <Cepheid> Five minutes later, I got up and walked away to another building, called my dad and had a psychotic break because I thought my reaction was inappropriate.

03:43 <Cepheid> I was on the verge of vomiting over it.

03:44 <Schism> I wouldn't call that a psychotic break.  A meltdown, yes.  A break, no.  Your response to an incredibly stressful situation was just that.

03:44 <Schism> But... I'm not the best person to tell you that.

03:44 <Cepheid> In any case, I've tried to avoid situations like that when I can.

03:44 <Schism> As have I...

03:45 <Cepheid> Usually I do this simply by not speaking about anything that might be construed as controversial.  I avoid religion and polotics for this reason, and I don't speak of anything regarding the administration of the university, except maybe when I'm venting about something.

03:45 <Cepheid> I keep my distance from people intentionally, as well.  That's for a different reason though, but a sufficient reason regardless.

03:46 <Cepheid> Sounds like I'm just trying to run away from my problems.  Perhaps I am, but at the same time, I don't feel bad for it, I'm not really hurting others, and I find my mood has improved considerably because of it, so no one else really has to deal with my negative mood all the time anymore.

03:46 <Schism> I dunno.  What's the old saying?  There are three topics to be avoided around the dinner table.  As for avoiding people... that's tricky.

03:46 <Cepheid> Oh, I don't avoid people.

03:47 <Schism> Yeah.  Avoidance is easy.  Handling things is hard.

03:47 <Cepheid> I mean keeping them at a distance in the sense of "acquaintances versus friends."

03:47 <Schism> What is avoidance but keeping people at a distance?

03:47 <Cepheid> I don't really do the friendship thing.  At least locally anyways.

03:48 <Cepheid> Keeping people at a distance, can be interpreted in a minimum of two ways.

03:48 <Schism> This is pretty much similar to my own situation.  Maybe I should poke at that game store just downtown more often...

03:48 <Cepheid> Keeping them socially at a distance, so that there are no major "connections" between the two of you.  Or physically keeping them at a distance.

03:48 <Schism> And yeah, I know.

03:48 <Cepheid> Mine is mor ethe former than the latter.

03:48 <Cepheid> I have non-mental reasons to do it, as well.

03:48 <Schism> That's... what I was going to get to.  Keeping people at a distance, so that just as they're not beholden to you, nor are you to them.

03:48 <Cepheid> I do not do well in groups of people, because of my hearing.

03:49 * Ali brushies Cepheid and Schism for no reason.

03:49 <Schism> That can't help either, no.

03:49 <Cepheid> I don't even do well one-on-one sometimes because of my hearing.

03:49 <Cepheid> People like to do one of two things when talking.

03:49 <Cepheid> They either like to talk extremely loudly, or they mumble.  It's never anywhere in between.

03:49 <Ali> Or they're on their phone not paying attention!

03:49 <Schism> This is going to seem ... probably slightly insulting.  Are you okay with that?

03:50 <Cepheid> In one-on-one situations, it's usually mumbling.  In group situations, it's extremely loud conversation.

03:50 <Cepheid> Mumbling just... makes it impossible for me to understand what's being said, especially since in most social situations, you're walking alongside someone, or you're behind them, or in front of them, etc.

03:50 <Cepheid> Loud situations actually stress my ears.

03:51 <Cepheid> Both from the noise, and the strain of trying to single out a single voice.

03:51 <Cepheid> And I'm fine with that, Schism.

03:51 <Cepheid> I've since calmed down from earlier.

03:51 <Schism> Cepheid, I don't want to insult you, but... a huge part of social interactions are body language and facial expressions.  Would I be wrong in saying that you have a hard time looking someone in the eyes?

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03:52 <Schism> I have the same concern, by the way.  I swear it's like I'm staring into an abyss.

03:52 <Cepheid> Given I read lips to understand even the most basic of conversations, yes.

03:52 <Cepheid> I'm always eyes on the lips.

03:52 <Cepheid> I combine lip, teeth and tongue visual information with the mumbling to better understand what people are saying.

03:53 <Cepheid> And you are right about that social issue.

03:53 <Cepheid> Because when I bring it up with people, they often react in a better mood to me after that.

03:53 <Schism> Okay, that's part of it.  Here's the issue, though.  What about your handling of gestures, expressions, body language?  Do you know how peoples' shoulders define their posture?

03:54 <Cepheid> I am familiar with body language.  I observe people far too much to be able to ignore it, outside of conversations.

03:54 <Cepheid> But when I'm conversing, usually my focus is mixed between the topic, and reading lips.

03:54 <Cepheid> I miss body language because of it.

03:55 <Cepheid> I am also aware of my own body language.

03:56 <Cepheid> If anything, I probably tend to look particularly tired all the time.

03:56 <Schism> Okay, that's definitely the hard part.  Focusing on a person's eyes and then using that as a bellwether for the rest of their language, I think that might be helpful in general.  You say you have a hard time focusing on a single person in the crowd, even when you're using their lips as an impression of what they're saying.

03:57 <Cepheid> That's because multiple audio signals are being processed at the same time.

03:57 <Schism> Sometime, you might want to go out and try focusing on a person's eyes - not, of course, like staring at them, but rather like reading them from that instead - and seeing if that helps you read what they're saying better.

03:57 <Cepheid> And usually in group situations, the voices around me are loud.  Painfully loud.

03:57 <Schism> It sounds absurd, and it is.

03:57 <Cepheid> I've tried.  I actually find I misunderstand a lot more frequently.

03:57 <Schism> But... I think that's kind of how our brains are wired... oh.  Well, darn.  So much for that idea.

03:58 <Cepheid> And not in a "I don't understand the undertone or meaning of your message."

03:58 <Schism> More misunderstanding what they're saying.

03:58 <Cepheid> I mean in a "Did you just say garbleflarbleflox or 'I need your help with this.'?"

03:59 <Cepheid> The "reading lips helps understanding" thing with vocal communication does help, and is a well-known psychological thing.

03:59 <PowerPlay> Garbleflarbleflox? :?

03:59 <Cepheid> As our brain processes visual information at a higher priority than auditory information.  Hold on a moment, I got an example somewhere of this.

03:59 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0

03:59 <Schism> That... well, might just be a matter of practice, but I certainly shan't push you on that one.  I don't have anything like a basic knowledge of ASL, let alone other choices for linguistic replacements.

03:59 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

03:59 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Try The McGurk Effect! - Horizon: Is Seeing Believing? - BBC Two

04:00 <Cepheid> Your brain will spazz from this.

04:00 <Schism> Oh.  SunsetShimmer... probably isn't here, neermind.

04:02 <Cepheid> Essentially, I am combining auditory information with the visual information of the mouth to discern what is being said.

04:02 <Cepheid> If a person is speaking to me face-to-face, I understand them with 100% clarity.

04:03 <Schism> Cepheid: I'm afraid that I'm a sheet to the wind, which clashes with the visual illusion of that video in such a manner that the dissonance doesn't take effect.  I do think I see what you mean, though.

04:03 <Cepheid> If a person is turned away from me and speaks, I will miss a good portion of what is said simply because my brain is trying to make sense of sounds.

04:04 <Cepheid> That audio and video of that clip is particularly distinctive for me.  When he's doing the "fa" motion, with the "ba" audio, I hear it as "fa".  The moment I turn my head away, I hear it as "ba".

04:04 <Cepheid> It's a fun little effect.

04:05 <Schism> Egh.  Body language, as well as the careful conjunction of person to voice, plays such an enormous role in what we see and hear that it truly is its own language...

04:05 <Cepheid> And since people aren't about to go abusing the McGurk effect in a conversation, when they speak to me face-to-face, it benefits me to watch the mouth.

04:05 <Schism> Do you have issues also matching person to voice?

04:05 <SaultSteMarie> sometimes when i hear people talking i feel like I'm just hearing a sequence of sounds that aren't coalescing into any meaningful discourse

04:05 <Cepheid> I do, yes.

04:06 <SaultSteMarie> like i'm parsing speech as a markov model sort of

04:06 <Cepheid> There are numerous scenarios where I've heard multiple voices speaking, one after the other, and I cannot separate them and associate them to people.

04:06 <Cepheid> Especially if I can't see them physically.

04:07 <Schism> That sounds like it could very well be a part of it.  So you can't quite associate Bubbles with Twilight Sparkle, despite the inflections being similar.  (Of course, nobody can match Raven to Twilight Sparkle.)

04:08 <Cepheid> If I see the source of the voice, then it's no problem differentiating between multiple voices. If I can't see the source, then the voices sort of blend together.

04:08 <Cepheid> It's lead to me concluding that everyone born in the US has the same bloody voice.

04:09 <Schism> That's probably why you haven't been able to learn French, either...

04:09 <Cepheid> Obviously amongst the specific gender.  Women do sound distinct enough from men for me to differentiate them.

04:09 <Cepheid> No, that was because I was pulled out of all my classes.

04:09 <Schism> Well, okay, there is that.

04:09 <Cepheid> Doctors specifically told my parents to pull me out of the French language classes.

04:09 <Cepheid> That said, attempts to learn now are tricky, yes.

04:10 <Schism> French isn't a tonal language like Chinese, but it does have very specific pronounciations unless you want to sound like HAL.

04:10 <Cepheid> I've even asked my dad, who can speak French with ease, to try and train me to speak some of the harder French sounds.

04:10 <Cepheid> I can't do it.  Not sure if it's because of the structure of my mouth, or because I am not hearing the sound right.

04:10 <Schism> I'd put my bits on the latter.

04:11 <Cepheid> Given that my hearing is unbalanced, it probably is the latter.

04:11 <Cepheid> There is a distinct downward curve regarding hearing in the lower frequencies in my right ear.

04:11 <Cepheid> The left ear is fine, and on top of that sounds "clearer and louder" so to speak.

04:11 <Schism> I'm not sure I'd even call it unbalanced, just... indiscriminate.

04:13 <Cepheid> I call it unbalanced because as stated, I hear noises in the left ear "louder and clearer" than I do through the right ear.

04:13 <Cepheid> Though hearing tests suggest other than the lower frequencies, the hearing functionality of it is fine.

04:13 <Cepheid> ... Other than the fact that under sufficient strain, it suddenly stops working on me.

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04:14 * Schism nods...

04:14 <Cepheid> THe longer I deal with loud noises or conversations, the quicker my right ear just quits and I hear static in it.

04:14 <Schism> Huh...Static, or a high-tone ring?

04:14 <Cepheid> Static.

04:15 <Cepheid> It sounds like the TV static you'd hear on old TVs

04:15 <Cepheid> Just it continually pops in and out as external stimulus continues to strain my ear.

04:16 <Cepheid> Longest it's gone was like, 5 minutes.  That happened last time I was in Toronto.

04:16 <Schism> White noise, of course, with external stimuli.  Blast it.  You should have mentioned that to the ENT, I bet she could have scheduled you in a lot earlier.

04:18 <Schism> If you didn't, that is.

04:19 <Cepheid> The ENT is aware of the issue, and presumes it has to do with medical history.

04:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Bonus Music #62 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8vxa8pd ]

04:19 <Cepheid> When I had the chronic ear infection, the infection ate away at the mastoid of my right ear.  So badly that they had to go in and do their best to "clean it up and fix it."

04:19 <Schism> That's a ... *urgh* sane presumption.

04:20 <Cepheid> The problem actually started *AFTER* the surgery,

04:21 <Schism> I know we are in Canada, where doctors are limited in their handling, but under what possible circumstances would that not warrant a follow-up appointment?

04:21 <Cepheid> Because it was several months after that surgery.

04:21 * Schism desks. "Of course."

04:21 <Cepheid> Plus, I don't think there's anything that can be done.

04:22 <Cepheid> If it happened due to the surgery, it happened because material was scraped away.  Whatever that material was, it was important.  It's gone now.

04:22 <Cepheid> And if it was scraped away, it's probably because it was damaged from the infection, or, it was infected material.

04:23 <Schism> Never say never.  I wouldn't be surprised if the sudden lack of hearing was due to a buildup of some fluids which can be drained, however infrequently, or generally removed via some manner or another.  Considering the close relationship which sinuses have with ears, well.

04:24 <Schism> Certainly, the surgery might have done more harm than good, but I wonder about the permanence.

04:25 <Cepheid> It's entirely probable that there's a fluid or buildup of something inside my ears.  I'm almost 100% certain at this point that the nerve endings responsible for feeling pain in my ears are atrophied or dead.

04:26 <Cepheid> I do not feel pain from ear infections, inner or outer.

04:26 <Schism> That sounds very much like, even before you see the ENT, visit a doctor who can check up on your ears.

04:27 <Cepheid> I just feel a bit of dizziness and that's it.  I don't even hear the sound of fluid swooshing around inside my ears.  I do feel pressure, but so little that I barely notice it.

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04:27 <Schism> That's still nine kinds of bad.  You KNOW exactly what happens to people with leprosy, and why.

04:28 <Schism> Get some sleep, and then go to the damned doctor before that metastisizes.

04:28 <Schism> metastacizes*

04:28 <Cepheid> ...  What have you been drinking?

04:29 <Cepheid> You make it sound like I'm describing something right now.

04:29 <Cepheid> Er, something happening right now*

04:30 <Cepheid> The hearing loss thing in my right ear is easily managed.  It's also been with me since I was like, sixteen.

04:30 <Schism> I have clearly not been drinking enough.  I'm honestly really, really worried.  ... though that helps.  When was that aforementioned surgery performed?

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04:30 <Cepheid> I was sixteen.  It was shortly after the ear infection just up and vanished.

04:31 <Cepheid> They wanted to go in and clean up the damage it caused to the right ear.

04:31 <Cepheid> The simplest way to manage the hearing loss is to simply avoid being around loud conversations or loud, continuous noise for too long.

04:32 <Schism> Now, here, knowing that ahead of time would have resulted in a lot less concern.  Here I'd worried that Spitfire had rubbed up against your ear and infected you with felinarcosingulus.

04:32 <Cepheid> You know how they say "look away from your computer every hour for about 15 minutes, get up and walk around, etc"?

04:32 <Cepheid> It's the same thing here.  "Get away from loud noise after an hour or two, for a little bit."

04:32 <Schism> They say a lot of things.

04:33 <Schism> Though... yeah.  I have never been able to stand a club environment for more than 40 minutes.

04:33 <Cepheid> Basically, the gist of it is to take a break from whatever is putting strain on your body.

04:33 <Cepheid> This applies to the ears as well.

04:33 <Cepheid> If anything, the strain is the ONLY thing I can feel in my ears.

04:34 <Cepheid> It feels like something is pressing down on my ears.  Not the eardrums, my ears.

04:35 <Cepheid> This is actually why I don't like conversations in groups.  They often devolve into people trying to talk over the voices of everyone else.  It eventually reaches a point where the volume of all the conversations exceeds the limit of what my ears can and want to deal with.

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04:37 <Cepheid> And the longer the strain goes, the worse the sensations I feel.  Eventually it goes from something pressing on my ears, to what feels like something "tightening" around my ear, underneath my skin.

04:37 <Schism> That... is pretty much the same here.  I think a part of why I get along with kids so well at family reunions is because their voices actually cut through the buzz and the constant murmur.  That and I'm a kid at heart.

04:37 <Cepheid> Which I feel primarily when I go from a loud sound to silence

04:37 <Cepheid> I don't hate people, or hate socializing.

04:37 <Schism> Oh my god.  There's nothing so loud as a sudden silence.

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04:38 <Cepheid> I just have physical and mental issues that makes it hard for me to socialize.  And even if I dealt with the mental issues, I'd still have the physical issues.

04:38 <History21> people scare me

04:38 <Cepheid> So, fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you want to look at it, socializing isn't something I can, or should do.

04:38 <Schism> Just, bam.  All of a sudden, your ears are ringing, and your throat goes dry as you realize that there are no more voices, that there's just the pull of the wind.

04:39 <Schism> And it is glorious.

04:39 <Cepheid> I treat everyone like they are acquantances.  No talking about the weather, or the sports game, or what we're gonna do on the weekend.  Just "I need help?" and "What do you need help with?" type stuff.

04:39 <Schism> But yeah...

04:40 <Cepheid> At best, if you want to get any closer than that, know then that I am more a listener than a speaker.

04:40 <Schism> When those people meet with you, they exist.  When they go away, ... not so much.

04:40 <Cepheid> You have a problem, and want someone to listen to it?  I'm your man.

04:40 <Cepheid> More or less.

04:41 <Cepheid> In person, I can't go any further than acquantances.  I've tried.

04:41 <Schism> I fear I'm not quite the same... via circumstance or intervention, I'm afraid that I just can't quite grok your situation.

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04:41 <Cepheid> We get "close", in however you want to define closeness for a short while.  Then we drift for no apparent reason.  Then we're back to the situation we started in.

04:42 <Cepheid> I think this is why I befriend cats.

04:42 <Schism> Cats don't care.  We are their pawns.

04:42 <Schism> Though... despite the odd situation, Cephy, I still like to think we resonated for a bit.  And now, Cepheid, I think it's time for you to sleep.

04:42 <Cepheid> There's no vocal barrier.  There's only the way they act, the way they move, and the fact that they use variations in a single sound to indicate distress, happiness, etc.

04:42 <Cepheid> There's no "words" to it.

04:43 <Cepheid> I'm tired, yes.  I'm not *THAT* tired though.  I woke up at 5 PM.

04:43 <Cepheid> Though a nap might not be a bad idea.

04:44 <Schism> Hmm... Cepheid, do you have a pocketwatch with a vibration function?

04:44 <Cepheid> Best I have in that regard is a smartphone.

04:46 <Cepheid> I'm starting to suspect I know why I am "happy" these days.

04:46 <Schism> well, I won't have you use masking tape to set it to yourself, but - and this sounds insane, but hear me out - if you want to wake up in an hour or two, why not set it alongside your calf with a small strip of tape?

04:46 <Cepheid> It's becomming more and more clear what it is I want from life, while at the same time, what I have to give in return.

04:46 <Schism> Cats.

04:47 <Schism> All of it makes sense now.  Cepheid is entirely comprised of cats.

04:47 <Cepheid> ...

04:47 <Cepheid> You've finally gone off the deep end.

04:47 <Schism> He wants to obtain cats.  He wants to give cats.  He wants... cats.

04:47 <Cepheid> (*PSST*  Send the assassin.  *MROW!*)

04:48 * Schism lays out catnip in a perfect circle around his hideout.

04:48 <Cepheid> As for my wants, it's basically how I described my social life above, to keep people around me at a distance.  And yes, cats factor in too.  As for what I have to give?  Training, knowledge, skills.  And the occasional application here and there.

04:49 <Schism> Okay, we're becoming very silly.  And ah!  To become a master - and one cannot become a master, truly, without a pupil.

04:49 <Schism> And, no matter what, no master is complete without a masterwork.

04:50 <Cepheid> Indeed.

04:50 <Cepheid> That said, being a master and having a pupil these days usually means being a teacher or a professor.

04:50 <Cepheid> The latter of which I can do if I acquire a masters.

04:50 <Schism> And, evidently, drool over a sheet of paper.

04:51 <Schism> But you have to do it in the right way.

04:51 <Schism> I'll brook no spelling mistakes, and you put that tongue away, Mr. Edwin, you know full well what we do to them here.

04:52 * Cepheid nudges Ali. "I think he's gone crazy."

04:53 <Schism> I've gone to snores.  They're like smores, but with more pillows involved.

04:53 * Ali squeaks?

04:53 * Schism wraps Ali's tail in graham crackers and chocolate, and nomfs on the end.

04:54 * Ali squeaks louder!

04:54 * Schism provides some of this s'more to Filly_Nightmares.

04:54 <Cepheid> It's a good think we're marshmallows that reproduce via mitosis.

04:54 <Schism> Cepheid: Oh, did I provide for you the great Octavia explanation?

04:56 <Cepheid> Nope.

04:56 <Schism> Okay, here's the gist, shortish.

04:57 <Schism> Octavia is an Earth Pony who plays the cello.  The cello is a lower-toned stringed instrument.

04:57 <Schism> I hope you're carrying along with my terribly, terribly obtruse language.

04:57 <Schism> Octavia also has very well-oiled, even waxed hair, long and very straight.

04:58 <Cepheid> Okay.

04:58 * Filly_Nightmares noms the s'more and noms Ali!

04:58 * Ali now whines cause 3 squeaks turns into a whine.

04:59 * Filly_Nightmares stuffs her floof into Ali's mouf.

04:59 * Filly_Nightmares tastes like wuv

04:59 * Ali still whines!

04:59 <Schism> In regards to horsehair, which - by the way - cello and stringed-instrument bows are made of, after treatment in rosin - black horsehair is usually used for the heavier-toned instruments, while white or even palomino is used for the lighter-toned ones.

04:59 * Filly_Nightmares wuuuvs at Ali!

05:00 <Schism> Octavia is a cello player with waxy hair and a very dark tone.  Consider this.

05:01 <Cepheid> So she uses her own hair for the bow.

05:01 <Schism> And to superb effect.

05:02 <Schism> This is all just headcanon, naturally.

05:02 <Cepheid> By the by, I am aware bows are made of horse hair.  I've seen stringed instruments.  Even held one and played one for a bit.

05:02 <Schism> Never had the opportunity here.  I'd like the chance to, sometime.

05:04 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, that memory is slightly tarnished due to recent events.  The violin belonged to a step-cousin of mine, and she was a nice person.  In recent years, she's been turned into a drug-abusing, alcholic baby machine for my step-grandmother's purposes.

05:04 <Cepheid> Last I saw her before my family disconnected itself from that step-family, she wasn't doing too good.

05:06 <Cepheid> All I remember about the violin was that I was terrible at using it.

05:14 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1423 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybaq4435 ]

05:14 <Schism> That...

05:16 <Schism> There is a certain classification of rage which I reserve for those who are truly deserving.  Cepheid, I believe I begin to approach it in regards to your step-grandmother

05:16 <Schism> But I believe that you yourself have first blush in regards to this.

05:16 <Cepheid> Trust me, the family's opinion of the stepmother and her family is...

05:17 <Cepheid> I learned a story a few months back.

05:17 <Schism> Before you share it: is it sane for this channel?

05:18 <Cepheid> Safe for the channel, sane?  That depends.  It involves my mother punching someone, having the cops called on her, and getting away with it.

05:18 <Cepheid> It happened shortly after my mother's brother had passed away due to an aneurysm.  It was at a family gathering going on.  They got to discussing my mother's brother, and then one of them suggested that perhaps he died because he didn't follow God's word, etc.

05:18 <Cepheid> Fast forward three seconds, the person who said that had a bloody nose, and the cops were being called.

05:19 <Cepheid> Cops came, they explained the story.  Cop said my mother had justifiable reason and refused to press charges.

05:20 <Schism> It undoubtedly helped that the only evidence of ... malfesance .. was a bloody nose.  Which, I should say, was not the worst attempted injury of the evening.

05:21 <Schism> Was your mother's pursuit into violent action a family trait, I wonder?

05:22 <Cepheid> Probably.  She has a temper just as bad as mine.  Push it far enough, violence results.

05:22 <Cepheid> Everyone on my mother's side is that way.

05:22 <Schism> I'm not sure I consider that an ill trait.

05:22 <Cepheid> Her father raised all his kids to be fighters, solving problems with violence.

05:23 <Cepheid> Became so well-known that the entire town they lived in knew the Kuhn name.

05:23 <Schism> Or, perhaps, more appropriately: "If you push me..."

05:23 <Cepheid> The biggest stories I've ever heard about that behaviour involved Mike, the brother that passed on.

05:24 <Schism> He sounds like the kind of guy who was very quiet for the most part, right up until push came to shove.

05:24 <Cepheid> He had a particularly fiery temper.  Enough that his father, who's a [REDACTED] was terrified of it.  And apparently my temperamental behaviour resembles his a lot.

05:24 <Cepheid> More or less.

05:24 <Cepheid> His push-came-to-shove was often insults against his siblings or himself.

05:24 <Schism> The sleeping giant...

05:24 * Schism nods.

05:25 <Cepheid> He was known to clear bars during bar brawls.  And at one point, knocked out a peeping tom in a neighbourhood.

05:25 <Schism> Six foot two and simply there?

05:25 <Cepheid> Also broke his hand at one point.

05:25 <Cepheid> Yep.  He was a hockey player, too.

05:25 <Cepheid> So he had a considerable build on him.

05:25 <Schism> Why am I singularly unsurprised?

05:26 <Cepheid> Fun note about the breaking-his-hand story.

05:26 <Cepheid> When he broke his hand, he had a cast put on it.  The next day, he goes to shop class, and with a buddy's help, used a bandsaw to cut the cast off.

05:27 <Cepheid> Why's this funny?  Few years back, I broke my hand, right?  I destroyed the cast in the days following.

05:27 <Ali> Stupid

05:27 <Cepheid> It's stupid, yes.

05:27 <Cepheid> I just find it funny because I behaved similarly to him.  Broke the cast off, more or less.

05:27 <Cepheid> Strangely, removing the cast did little to affect the healing of the bone.

05:27 <Schism> Utterly ridiculous.  But ... at the same time, I bet your mom simply started laughing, right before she smacked you upside the head.

05:28 <Cepheid> More or less.

05:28 <Cepheid> I had to go back to the hospital and sit around for five or so hours.

05:28 <Schism> Did they leave you a book, at least?

05:28 <Cepheid> A clinic doctor was concerned that by breaking the cast, I unset the bone.

05:29 <Cepheid> Turns out that the bone was still set, and healing faster than expected.

05:29 <Schism> Turns out, nothing of the sort, your arm was half-healed and they were staring at it for an hour wondering what--

05:29 <Ali> You're lucky she didn't just slap that bad arm

05:29 <Cepheid> She's used to me and my dad being stupid with injuring ourselves and not taking care of ourselves.  Hell she does it herself, so..

05:30 <Schism> Cephy's mom might be a few things, and I am not going to speculate, but willfully stupid ain't one of them.

05:30 <Cepheid> I dunno about that.

05:30 <Schism> Well, aside from the fact that she'll put herself in harm's way now and again.

05:30 <Cepheid> Every few months, she goes to get some nerves burned in an attempt alleviate back pain caused by a car crash a few years back.

05:31 <Cepheid> The doctor tells my mother not to do anything strenuous for several days.

05:31 <Cepheid> Literally the moment she comes home, she's cleaning the house.

05:31 <Cepheid> This happens *EVERY TIME*.  I keep fighting with her to sit down and let me do the housework.

05:31 <Cepheid> And then she goes into work and does patrols on foot.

05:31 <Schism> I'm not sure I'd call that strenuous, except that it's Cephy's house.

05:31 <Schism> And you have two cats, Cepheid.

05:31 <Cepheid> Strenuous means "no bending, crouching, kneeling repeatedly."

05:32 <Cepheid> As in, "lay in bed and try not to move too much"

05:32 * Schism checks off the list. "... I do hope they don't expect her to follow those ridiculous instructions."

05:32 <Cepheid> The entire family is guilty of being willfully stupid.

05:32 <Schism> I mean, honestly.

05:33 <Schism> "Lie in bed and do nothing."  What are they EXPECTING?

05:33 <Cepheid> My sister a few months back had a severe allergic reaction to something, nearly being unable to breathe.  She just waited it out at home for about half an hour before going to the hospital.

05:33 <Cepheid> Schism:  THe problem is that by moving, she aggravates the nerves, which in the end results in further long-ternm pain.

05:34 <Cepheid> At this point in time, my mother's not able to stand up or sit down for too long, and bending and kneeling are painful.

05:34 <Schism> Pain is just your body telling you that you're still alive.

05:34 <Schism> But... ow.  ._.

05:34 <Schism> Also... okay, your sister's not alone.  I've had some ketoacidosis situations where I wasn't willing to go to the hospital because I'd felt that it was just a stomach bug which was close to passing.

05:34 <Cepheid> My dad, on the other hand, suffered a permanent back injury from work when he was young.  It's why he's a technician now.

05:35 <Cepheid> Amazingly, he's got permanent workmans comp because of it.

05:35 * Ali feels like she can't work cause the government tells her she can't.

05:35 <Schism> My own dad... well, he's in a bad way.  A few decades of abuse caught up to him all at once.  He is currently very close to liver, kidney, pancreas and lung failure.

05:35 <Cepheid> Geezus.

05:36 <Ali> Smoke n booze?

05:36 <Cepheid> We're all falling apart!  \o/

05:36 <Schism> He was very close to having a stomach stint put in.

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05:36 <Schism> Ali: Yeah... to the point of absurdity.  And a poor diet didn't help.  But yeah.  We are all dying by inches.

05:37 <Schism> So give two fingers to the world, let's live life to the fullest and laugh at how stupid everything's gotten.

05:37 <Cepheid> Or in my case, just ignore what's going on, keep doing what I like doing, and live my life. :P

05:38 * Filly_Nightmares eats Schism

05:38 <Schism> Where does the one preclude the other?  :P  Anyway.

05:38 * Schism nomfs on Filly_Nightmares' ears, and provides with a bowl of macaroni and cheese with extra cheddar and a sprinkling of black pepper and paprika!

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05:39 * Filly_Nightmares eats her new food and foods on Schism!

05:39 <Heartbreak> Eeep!

05:39 * Schism places Filly_Nightmares atop Ali!

05:39 <Heartbreak> What?!

05:39 * Schism then reconsiders, takes Filly_Nightmares from Ali and places atop Heartbreak!

05:39 <Heartbreak> Hey!

05:39 <Heartbreak> Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

05:39 <Schism> Because HB is best filly repository.

05:40 * Filly_Nightmares noms Heartbreak's wuv!

05:40 <Heartbreak> That's a horrible description of me...

05:40 <Heartbreak> Gaaaaaaaaah!

05:40 <Heartbreak> Stop eating my hat!

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05:41 <Heartbreak> Filly_Nightmares have this green and caramel lollipop instead.

05:41 <Cepheid> Anyways, as per Schism's suggestion earlier, I am going to go get some sleep.

05:41 <Cepheid> I've reached "I can't focus my eyes" level of exhaustion.

05:42 * Filly_Nightmares usckles on!

05:42 <Schism> I believe I should probably follow along. Soonish.

05:42 <Ali> LUNADON'TGOTOBED!!!

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05:43 <Heartbreak> Filly_Nightmares: It's green apple and caramel.

05:43 * Filly_Nightmares suckles on it!

05:43 <Heartbreak> I love green apple.

05:44 * DinkyDoo noms on Heartbreak

05:44 <Hickory_Shot> How do you group a nick, when you're not logged into your current nick?

05:44 <DinkyDoo> Wants new chapter

05:44 <DinkyDoo> Group a nick?

05:44 * Heartbreak boops DinkyDoo.

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05:45 * Heartbreak puts DinkyDoo and Filly_Nightmares next to each other.

05:45 * DinkyDoo scrunchies nose and boops back

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05:45 * Filly_Nightmares noms DinkyDoo's head

05:45 <Cepheid> ... I was gonna tell him.

05:46 <Schism> Tell who?

05:46 *** Sombra is now known as Hickory_shot

05:46 <Cepheid> Tell Hickory how to group a nickname.

05:46 *** Hickory_shot is now known as Hickory_Shot

05:47 <TheHistroy21> The show scares me some times and I think that's because of show being more relatable

05:47 <Schism> Oh.  Well, I'm sure they'll figure it out, with /ns help group or something.

05:47 <Hickory_Shot> Gotte

05:47 <Hickory_Shot> Guess that's the only way we can do it

05:47 <Cepheid> It's pretty straightforward.  Just login with your primary nickname, then switch to a new nickname, then do /ns group or /msg nickserv group

05:48 <Cepheid> That's literally all there is to it.

05:48 <Hickory_Shot> I was hoping there was a way to do it without switching to my old nick

05:48 *** TheHistroy21 is now known as History21

05:49 <Schism> You can leave every channel and remain connected to the server.

05:49 <Schism> Then you can switch to your old nick, and enjoin your new ones appropriately.

05:49 <Schism> That having been said, you can /also/ register a new identity upon the server if you have a different e-mail address.  This is generally contraindicated, though.

05:50 <Cepheid> In any case, I'm off.  Laters nutjobs.

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05:51 * Filly_Nightmares floofsplodes!

05:51 <Schism> I suggest linking and grouping those nicks to an active account.  Less headaches and you're more likely to get a hostmask of your very own if Gladiolus doesn't have to sort through the logs.

05:51 * DinkyDoo puffs up and conter noms Filly_Nightmares

05:52 * Schism encapsulates Filly_Nightmares' floof into the form of a batling. Puts that batling in the careful hooves of DinkyDoo and the Cutie Mark Crusaders.

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06:01 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

06:02 <History21> hi

06:04 <Schism> Hiyas.

06:06 <ConfusionRift> Okay, Cutie Mark... Procrastination? | "Crusaders." | Right. Anyways, the other two are gone, and I need someone to keep guard of this box. What it contains is... none of your business, but it's important that someone watches over it. And no matter how morbidly one gets, one cannot open it, as it may just destroy everything. (puts it down) Have fun, and thank you. (leaves)

06:07 <ConfusionRift> Little did they know, it was a confetti bomb. And it went off about 2 minutes after leaving. :P

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06:11 <ConfusionRift> That would be a pretty interesting trust exercise, to see if the CMC can still be trusted with more important tasks.

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06:12 <History21> do you love season 7 so far

06:12 <ConfusionRift> I'm a bit behind, but it's been alright for me.

06:13 <History21> I'm on the disappointed side

06:16 <DinkyDoo> I found the first episode so very meh

06:16 <DinkyDoo> But my laptop died before I could watch the others

06:16 <Hickory_Shot> Perhaps the world

06:17 <Hickory_Shot> Would be better off, without snakes...

06:18 <ConfusionRift> We don't need mosquitoes.

06:20 <ConfusionRift> They just spread deceases.

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06:22 <Heartbreak> DinkyDoo, a new chapter will come when it comes.

06:22 <Heartbreak> In the mean time...

06:22 <Heartbreak> Spot the easter eggs in Jet's drawings!

06:22 <Heartbreak> He says that there's stuff in there.

06:22 <Heartbreak> But like magic eyes, some viewers just can't see it.

06:24 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmm...

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07:23 * Filly_Nightmares lays on ConfusionRift for snugs.

07:23 * ConfusionRift snugs Filly_Nightmares.

07:23 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up and suckles on ConfusionRift's neck floof

07:25 * ConfusionRift allows it. Nothing is really happening. :P

07:29 * Filly_Nightmares chews on ConfusionRift's cheeks

07:29 * ConfusionRift patpats Filly_Nightmares.

07:30 * Filly_Nightmares rumble purrs

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08:14 <kitkat47> good morning

08:15 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.

08:17 <Tirek> Welcome to the Tireckoning.

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08:30 * ConfusionRift hacks... using a grinder.

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08:54 <kitkat47> hello

08:54 * kitkat47 snuggles ConfusionRift

08:56 * ConfusionRift patpats kitkat47.

08:57 * ConfusionRift tries to get into Tirek's fort... with a grinder. Rather pointless, huh.

08:58 <Tirek> I've been playing tf2 a lot again.

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08:58 <Tirek> And every time I do, I lament that I don't know how to play Spy and I want to learn, but its incredibly difficult to get a footing.

09:08 <ConfusionRift> Haven't played it yet. Have been burning time with Space Engineers.

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09:40 * kitkat47 *hugs* ADragonDreaming_ in c old embrace

09:40 <kitkat47> how are you?

09:47 <kitkat47> !hug

09:47 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3

09:47 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around kitkat47 in a tight embrace

09:47 <kitkat47> !muffin

09:47 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3

09:47 <kitkat47> no

09:47 * DerpyBot walks away with a drooping tail

09:47 <kitkat47> wait i actually do have one

09:47 <kitkat47> derpy

09:47 <kitkat47> !muffin

09:47 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3

09:48 <kitkat47> yes of course i just said

09:48 <DerpyBot> Thank you!!

09:48 * DerpyBot glomps kitkat47

09:48 <kitkat47> hnng :3

09:49 <kitkat47> i wonder what you can do derpybot

09:49 <kitkat47> !hi

09:49 <kitkat47> !flip

09:49 * DerpyBot flips a muffin

09:49 * DerpyBot catches the muffin with her mouth and eats it before anyone can see which side is up

09:49 <kitkat47> !spin

09:49 <kitkat47> !sad

09:50 <kitkat47> !moon

09:50 <DerpyBot> Grab my tail, kitkat47!

09:50 <kitkat47> no

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09:50 <ConfusionRift> ...

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09:50 <ConfusionRift> Lucky that was no atomic flip traversal.

09:50 <kitkat47> hi ConfusionRift

09:51 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.

09:51 <kitkat47> yall need a smarter bot

09:51 <kitkat47> shes cute tho

09:52 <kitkat47> so what do you do confusion?

09:53 <ConfusionRift> I'm just playing a game.

09:55 <Golden> Good night everyone

09:56 <ConfusionRift> Laters, Golden.

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09:57 <Tirek> Put way too much cinnamon in my french toast mix

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10:00 <kitkat47> love the cinnamon

10:05 <Tirek> Cinnamon is de winner, mon.

10:05 <Tirek> But only in moderation.

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10:43 * Schism chugs a quantity of soda in a futile attempt to wake right the heck up.

10:44 <Schism> Tirek: Alas, yes... I go for a teaspoon per two eggs.

10:45 <Schism> Did you try adding some clove?

10:46 <Finwe> Messrs Schism and Tirek.

10:46 * Finwe doffs his hat.

10:47 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.

10:48 * Schism doffs his nanaimo bar.

11:09 <Tirek> I don't have clove at the moment, so nah.

11:09 <Schism> Ah, alas.  A little clove, a bit of orange oil, those really spice up some French toast nicely.

11:10 <Schism> And maybe a touch of rum.

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11:18 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #884 [ http://tinyurl.com/y86ka874 ]

11:21 <Schism> For the love of sweet candy apples, CNN, why do you insist on imbecilic autoplay vids?

11:22 *** Lumindia is now known as Star_Sapphire

11:23 <SunsetShimmer> because CNN?

11:24 <Schism> Yeah, yeah, I guess that sums it all up.

11:25 * SunsetShimmer dons a cowboy hat, whistles to self and heads on down to overwatchin' - it ain't quite high noon, but its close enough pardnah

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11:28 <Schism> Hmm.  There is a scene, at the beginning of King Lear, where the eponymous king gestures around the table, and his staff members take their turns praising him with unabashed, overadorned affection and such repetition of the word 'love' that it no longer sounds like an actual word.

11:28 <Schism> In turn, the king provides them with gifts befitting far more than their stations.

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11:42 <CleverDerpy> hiya

11:43 * Schism rolls over to CleverDerpy and offers her a carrot, apple, coconut, raisin and walnut muffin!

11:44 * CleverDerpy noms it and smiles, hugging Schism

11:44 <CleverDerpy> thank you~

11:44 * Schism hugs back! and looks around for an Ali to place CleverDerpy upon the head of. No such Ali appears to exist. Hmm.

11:45 <CleverDerpy> Derpy is excited

11:45 <CleverDerpy> Nintendo's E3 is today

11:46 <Schism> Eeee!(3)

11:47 <Schism> Hope it goes well, despite the aspersions I'm sure it's likely to draw.

11:47 * Lumindia gives Derpy a kiss on the cheek! Morning Derps!

11:47 * CleverDerpy wags her tail and licks Lumindia back

11:47 <Lumindia> hehehe

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11:49 <Schism> Also, my mistake.  It's not his advisors, per se - but more his children.  Who probably advise him on matters most dear.

11:52 <CleverDerpy> lumi?

11:52 <CleverDerpy> where' you go?

11:52 * CleverDerpy looks around, whimpering

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11:54 <CleverDerpy> lumi~

11:54 * CleverDerpy huggles

11:57 <Lumindia> ( I poffed for a channel elsewhere for a moment)

11:57 <Lumindia> I'd never leave you for long, my dear. <3

11:59 <CleverDerpy> eee~

11:59 * CleverDerpy huggles tight

11:59 * Lumindia squeak

12:00 * CleverDerpy huggles tighter

12:01 <CleverDerpy> Derpy wubs you~

12:01 * CleverDerpy sets him down

12:04 * Lumindia squeaks more, then breathes

12:04 <Lumindia> you've got quite a bit of strength

12:10 <CleverDerpy> Derpy delivers mail

12:10 <CleverDerpy> some of it can be quite heavy

12:11 <CleverDerpy> you ever carried a paino to the top of a building by flying before?

12:11 <CleverDerpy> Derpy has~

12:11 <Lumindia> Surely that wasn't by yourself

12:11 <CleverDerpy> ...we were understaffed, of course it was

12:11 <Lumindia> that's actually quite impressive

12:12 <CleverDerpy> it was painful, but Derpy had to do it, cuz rain or shine, tornados are fire, derpy's mail carrying is always for hire~

12:12 * CleverDerpy smiles

12:13 <CleverDerpy> it might also explain why Derpy can eat muffins all day and not gain too much weight

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12:20 <Finwe> Lt CleverDerpy!

12:20 <Finwe> o7

12:21 * Schism derps, and provides a foot-tall supermuffin made with cranberries, raspberries, blueberries, dried apples, figs, raisins, and plenty of spices.

12:21 <Finwe> Spice? Does it give you azure eyes?

12:22 <Schism> No, no, it's a melange of spices, not a spice melange.

12:22 <Finwe> o3o

12:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: CMC vs. Nazgul  [ http://tinyurl.com/y7e5d8np ]

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12:32 <PKid> hello

12:45 <Schism> Hmmm, gonna be a new Supreme Court chief justice in Canada soon.

12:45 <PKid> icy

12:46 <Schism> Trudeau's decided to take the selection process out of his own hands and nominate a well-rounded committee, a rather savvy move politically as it distances himself from allegations of putting a 'stamp' on them.

12:47 <Schism> Anyway, hihi.

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12:57 <PKid> i think it's time to stop browsing /mlp/ for a while

12:57 <PKid> too much drama

12:59 <Schism> To take your mind off it, have a bouncing Starlight Glimmer.  https://derpibooru.org/1448277

13:02 <PKid> Seems legit

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13:11 <Schism> I suppose I should watch those specials sometime, if only do the presence of baconmane.

13:11 <Schism> Er, due to the presence*.  Gah, I'm slipping.

13:11 <PKid> Without any spoilers, they were super good

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13:12 <Schism> Good to know!  I suppose I should also watch Legend of Everfree one of these days.

13:12 <PKid> Oh dang go watch it

13:12 <PKid> It's got some super catchy music

13:12 <PKid> Also watch the 3 specials in order

13:12 <PKid> Dance -> Movie -> Mirror

13:12 <PKid> Movie and Mirror especially share continuity

13:12 <PKid> Dance continuity is kinda loose with them, but still there

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13:51 * Finwe hats on Pi.

13:52 * Pi nuzzes Finwe

13:52 * Finwe hugs the Pi.

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13:59 <Lumindia> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcaej-i3QQo

13:59 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

13:59 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Last Train To Awesome Town - Parry Gripp

14:01 <RazorSharpFang> Finwe: What's happened to the Finnish government recently? I heard something had happened.

14:02 <Finwe> Nothing yet.

14:02 <RazorSharpFang> I thought a coalition had been disbanded

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14:02 <Finwe> One of the parties in the council of state has been torn apart, though, so something is bound to happen.

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14:06 <Finwe> Their party meeting last Saturday elected right-wing extremists to all key positions, which made 20 of their MP's to leave the party.

14:07 <Schism> Hmm, thought.

14:08 <Schism> The reason that the torch has been passed from the Mane Six over to other characters is that the six have... grown up.  They've self-actualized to a strong degree, and so the story has to focus on those who haven't.

14:09 <Schism> Finwe: ... oh, that's going to be fun to watch from the other side of the world.

14:11 <Finwe> The PM says that there is no need to rearrange the council of state, but many experts think that a new cabinet is inevitable.

14:12 <Schism> I most assuredly hope so.

14:13 <Schism> Do you think that this is going to result in the dissolution of the party in and of itself?

14:14 <Finwe> Probably not, but the dissidents are most likely to form a new party.

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14:15 <Finwe> Mr Thelema5_.

14:15 * Finwe doffs hat.

14:15 * Thelema5_ salutes

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14:16 <Schism> While on the one hand this will weaken their voting stock in terms of seats, I think that'll actually lend them a sense of legitimacy which wouldn't otherwise be available.

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14:16 <Schism> The question from there is whether they can stop the same thing from happening again.

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14:19 <Finwe> They haven't been discharged by the party yet, so for the time being they're only a rebellious group of members of parliament who refuse to vote in line with their party.

14:19 <Schism> Considering how you've described the party, I call this a win/win situation.

14:21 <Finwe> It takes some time to get a party assembled and registered, which means that they're going to be on their own for a while.

14:21 <Schism> For the most peculiar reason, I suspect that despite them all being 'Independent', they'll somehow manage to form a bloc anyway.

14:22 <Finwe> A block, yes, that much they've announced already.

14:22 <Schism> Oh, Finwe, have you heard how Trudeau is handling the whole Supreme Court situation here in Canada?  I think you'll like this one.

14:23 <Finwe> Haven't been following Canadian headlines much lately, I have to confess.

14:24 <Schism> Okay, so there are three Justices in charge of the highest court here.  Generally speaking, these judiciaries are from Eastern, Central, and Western Canada, thus providing a fairly reasonable blend.

14:24 <Schism> This is unlikely to change.

14:25 <thelema5> Political parties need more balloons and cake

14:25 <Schism> One justice, Beverley McLachlin, is due to retire.  Now, this very rarely happens, and people are already a-bubble about whether Trudeau is going to put his stamp of approval upon someone who tacitly supports him.

14:26 <Schism> This is normal.  It's a very charged situation.

14:26 <Schism> Trudeau has cut the knot, and instead appointed a committee of neutral judges from that region to decide for him.

14:27 <Schism> "I don't know anything about this, you guys do it."

14:27 <thelema5> Sounds reasonable

14:28 <Finwe> That's how it works here. The courts are politically neutral and independent.

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14:28 <Schism> It's eminently reasonable and a surefire way to not only make sure that he doesn't get any of this on him in the end.  I'm actually genuinely impressed by his political savvy for once.  (Not that I have a crush on him or anything.)

14:29 <Finwe> Except for the fact that the jury is appointed by the town or community council.

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14:30 <Schism> Finwe: When you play at the national level, the rules differ a little.

14:31 <Finwe> Not in Finland.

14:31 * Schism briefly contemplates moving to Finland, but alas, he isn't able to speak the local tongue.

14:32 <Finwe> Politicians have no say in the composition of the supreme court.

14:33 <Schism> Ostensibly, the Prime Minister is meant to appoint judges to the three-person Supreme Court.  His tacit statement that he is willing to take the advice of the judges in general is not merely a smart political move in and of itself, but also thumbs the nose at certain... politically motivated courts.

14:33 <Finwe> The judges are formally appointed by the president, but it's the judiciary who elects them.

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14:33 <RazorSharpFang> Finwe: Some people say that Halla-aho is trying to collapse the EU from the inside.

14:34 <Schism> I would very much like to see that plan.

14:34 <Schism> Not to see it realized, but just to see the ostensible plan itself.

14:34 <Finwe> RazorSharpFang: Probably, he thinks that the union gives raise to uncotrolled immigration.

14:35 <RazorSharpFang> There might be a case for that.

14:35 <Finwe> *rise

14:35 <RazorSharpFang> But that's not a discussion to be had here.

14:35 * Thelema5 looks at schism

14:35 * Schism looks at Thelema5.

14:36 <Finwe> We have nine judges in the supreme court.

14:36 <Finwe> Historically, there are nine provinces in Finland, but I don't know whether that has anything to do with the number of the judges.

14:37 <Schism> Three here, as mentioned, but they don't really handle a lot of cases because there are far, far better venues and if you bring your case before them, you'd better have a darned good reason.

14:38 <Schism> Like, beyond good.  They will put your appeal under a microscope.

14:38 <Finwe> Finland Proper, Satakunta, Nyland, Karelia, Savo, Tavastia, Bothnia, Lapland and Åland.

14:39 <Schism> Nine is a nice number... and, well, who can argue tradition?  If they're nine, they're nine.

14:40 <Schism> It might be a sop to provinciality?  I don't know enough of Finnish politics to say for sure.

14:41 <Finwe> We have three levels of courts, the lowest being the thing court, the middle one is called court court and the topmost the supreme court.

14:41 <Schism> 'Thing Court' is the name of my hair metal Dr. Seuss cover band.

14:42 <Schism> But I know what you mean.

14:42 <Finwe> It comes from the Old Norse word thing, meaning an assembly of the elders of the people.

14:42 <Schism> English being English, I wonder if we stole that word from you.

14:43 <Finwe> The Norwegian Parliament is called The Great Thing, or Stortinget in Norwegian.

14:43 * Schism wonders, "And in that regard, what are the members of the Parliament called?"

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14:45 * Schism smiles at Finwe, innocently. "Is Finland ruled over in perpetuity by the Great Old Ones?"

14:45 <Finwe> Schism: The Norwegians call them representants.

14:46 <Schism> Aw, that's not as much fun.

14:46 <Finwe> And it's the same in Finnish, they're representants of the people.

14:46 <Finwe> Kansanedustaja.

14:46 <Schism> Poli-ticians.

14:47 <Schism> I know that makes more sense, but I remain disappointed.

14:47 <Finwe> In Swedish, though, they're called riksdagsman.

14:47 <Finwe> Or riksdagsmän in plural.

14:48 <Schism> One of these days I really have to grok the roots of non-Germanic and non-Romantic languages.

14:48 <Finwe> Men of the realm-days.

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14:49 <Schism> Hmm.

14:50 <Schism> I'm not even going to guess at the etymology, that would be a futile exercise which would lead to me going all Sparklebutt.

14:51 <Finwe> From old Swedish custom, where the representatives for the four estates of the state assembled to make decisions on the affairs of the state, this all taking place in a given number of days.

14:51 <Schism> Days of the realm, where the laws and duties of those assembled would be set.

14:52 <Schism> So a yearly caucus.  Hmm.

14:53 <Schism> I believe another term is also similar: a moot.

14:53 <Finwe> The four estates being, of course, the noblemen, the clergy, the peasants and the burgesses.

14:54 <Finwe> Schism: Yup, a moot.

14:54 <Finwe> Möte in modern Swedish.

14:54 <Finwe> Meaning a meeting.

14:54 <Schism> Oh neat.  I didn't think that actually parsed so neatly.

14:55 <Schism> And by peasants, I take it you mean smallfolk, landholders with a certain claim.

14:56 <Schism> The landowners and the mayors, in modern terms, regarding the peasants and the burgesses.

14:56 <Schism> Landholders, rather.

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14:58 <Schism> This is all difficult to come to terms with from an American or Canadian perspective.  Bureaucracy is one giant inertia engine.  But it is helpful, and thank you for your explanation.

14:58 <Finwe> Schism: Yup, those farming the crown's land had no representatives in the riksdag.

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14:59 <Schism> Not terribly surprising.  (How d'ya know he's a king?  He ain't got (#$* all over imself!)

15:00 <Finwe> Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!

15:00 <Schism> Now we see the violence inherent in the system!

15:01 <Finwe> The burgesses were townsfolk who usually manufactured somehing like shoes or furniture or whatnot.

15:02 <Finwe> Merchants also counted as burgesses.

15:02 <Schism> Cool story, burough.

15:02 <Finwe> Borough.

15:02 <Schism> Oh fine, ruin a terrible joke why don't you.

15:03 <Finwe> Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea.

15:03 <Schism> Burgh in Scotland, but Scottish pronunciation is weird anyway.

15:03 <Finwe> Aye, ya ken.

15:04 <Schism> So then, burgesses were people who might or might not own land, but rather than working under someone else, they were self-sufficient.

15:04 <Schism> For the most part, that is.

15:05 * Schism looks outside at the tree. "Boids. Piss off."

15:05 <Finwe> Had they owned land, they would automatically been peasants.

15:05 <Finwe> Noblemen were basically just landowners who did not pay the land tax.

15:06 <Finwe> Even in modern Finland, they're still exempt of the land tax.

15:07 <Schism> Oh, like certain orange chimpanz--*DONK* self, stop it, I mean, um.  Hmm.  'Freehold' is a specific term, but I suppose that 'micronations' might apply in this day and age?

15:08 <Schism> They don't /have/ to pay the tax, on the understanding that the government carefully leaves them alone if they do?

15:08 <Finwe> It was handled by superseding the land tax by real estate tax, of which the nobility is not exempt.

15:08 <Schism> Ahh, a fine workaround and worthy of toasting.

15:09 <Schism> Speaking of toast, I should probably float over to the store and find some food before it begins to pour...

15:09 <Finwe> The only legal privilege the nobility has left is that if they're arrested they have the right to get fresh straw to sleep on.

15:09 <Schism> Remind me to mention that to Celestia.  Surely some nobles would be grateful for a bed and a meal in the same place.

15:09 * Finwe noms on the remainders of Schism's toast supply.

15:10 <Schism> Welcome to it, I'm buying more bread.  >.>

15:10 <Schism> You should have waited, though.  French toast is a thing.

15:10 <Finwe> Uhh, I should have been on my way to a meeting for some time ago.

15:10 <Finwe> See you later, everypony.

15:10 <Schism> Take care.

15:11 * Finwe zooms towards the inn where the meeting is held.

15:11 * Thelema5 waves g'bye

15:11 * Schism shouts after Finwe, "Turn TIMESTAMPS on!"

15:12 <Schism> Honestly, I have the time at the bottom right of my screen, sure, but having chat timestamps helps a lot more to keep me grounded in reality.

15:19 <Vulpor> hey everyone

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15:20 <CleverDerpy> derp?

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15:20 * DerpyHooves derps also

15:20 * CleverDerpy sits and derps

15:21 * CleverDerpy sniffs the new derp

15:21 <CleverDerpy> you smell just like me~

15:22 * CleverDerpy nuzzles

15:22 * Thelema5 waves hullo to vulpor and cleverderpy

15:22 <CleverDerpy> hiya Thelema5, today's the big day

15:22 <CleverDerpy> the Nintendo e3

15:22 <CleverDerpy> so excited, in less than 1 hour~

15:23 <Vulpor> my big e3 thing happened

15:23 <Vulpor> Sony did great

15:23 <Vulpor> I actually may get gran turismo sport

15:23 <CleverDerpy> Derpy heard sony didn't do so well

15:24 <CleverDerpy> but she also didn't watch, so... maybe she's wrong.

15:24 <Vulpor> It depends on what you really want

15:24 <CleverDerpy> good point

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15:25 <Vulpor> it had some cool announcements

15:25 <Vulpor> god of war looks good

15:25 <Vulpor> monster hunter for ps4

15:25 <CleverDerpy> Derpy hopes Nintendo does e3 right

15:25 <Vulpor> undertale

15:26 <CleverDerpy> what about undertale?

15:26 <Vulpor> coming to ps4

15:26 <Vulpor> ive never played it

15:26 <Vulpor> so this is good for me

15:26 <Schism> Oh, that will be interesting.

15:27 <Vulpor> also coming to vita if you got one of those

15:29 <CleverDerpy> hah, that commercial\

15:29 <CleverDerpy> that wasn't half bad

15:30 <Schism> Hmmm, I believe... I shall be picking up a lasagna.

15:30 <Schism> Why, you ask?  Because lasagna, that's why.

15:30 <Schism> But not just yet.

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15:33 * Thelema5 informs Garfield

15:33 <Schism> It's almost tempting to pick up some cabbage rolls instead, but... nah.  Though...

15:34 <Schism> Jalapeno poppers sound like a possible choice.

15:34 <Thelema5> Mm mm

15:34 <Schism> Or of course I can pick up some chips, cheddar curds and gravy.

15:36 <Schism> And fry up some bacon and onions to sprinkle atop.

15:39 <Vulpor> yeah..........

15:40 <Vulpor> I think Grand Turismo is gonna be good

15:40 <Schism> Darnit.  I'm going to have to load up Gran Turismo 2 again.

15:41 <Vulpor> For me I cant drive in real life

15:42 <Vulpor> so if this allows me to drive real cars

15:42 <Vulpor> like what forza did

15:43 <Thelema5> Could Be fun!

16:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Epic Daybreaker Music: Elias Frost - the better, the prettier and more powerful [Orchestral Metal] / Delta Brony - Daybreaker Boss Battle Theme [Orchestral Soundtrack] [ http://tinyurl.com/ya8u8r84 ]

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16:09 <Vulpor> Hey did they give Mario's hat a name in Mario Oddyessy yet?

16:09 <Vulpor> I got one for it

16:09 <Vulpor> Lids

16:09 <Vulpor> its got eyes and its a hat

16:19 <Schism> hmm.  "A dumb person watches their wristband to count the seconds.  A smart person ties a coin to a string and uses that against heartbeats.  We're looking at around 160 BPS, very thready."

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16:20 <Schism> At which point she bucked a patient in the chest.

16:20 <Librarian> owo

16:20 <Librarian> its a me Librarian

16:20 <Schism> BPM*

16:27 <Librarian> mario oddysey looks amazing owo

16:27 <Sleeping_Nightmares> I'm tired of Mario stuff. o4o

16:27 <DerpyHooves> Yes it does

16:27 <DerpyHooves> Nintendo may have stolen E3, lol

16:28 <DerpyHooves> Mario isn't going away, and the new stuff is often fun

16:28 * DerpyHooves shrugs

16:28 <Librarian> i hope they announce something cool as available right now

16:28 <Librarian> like the mario and luigi remake

16:28 <DerpyHooves> Nope, lol

16:29 <Librarian> dont crush ma dreams o3o

16:29 <Sleeping_Nightmares> The new stuff is either just of things with a flashy remake of just don't have enough actual new things to make it worth it to me

16:29 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Or I just don't care about the particular series at all. O3O

16:32 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Also the fact that it's all on console.

16:32 <Sleeping_Nightmares> I know I can emulate it though.

16:32 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Well, most of it. Not the recent stuff.

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16:36 * Schism feeds Surry a slice of lasagna with extra broccoli!

16:37 * Surreal_Nightmares yawnskrees and nom nom noms!

16:39 <Schism> Broccoli is of the nom after all.  n.n

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16:44 * Surreal_Nightmares chews on Schism's cheeks

16:46 <Schism> "The best part of being mad is that you come up with some very, very fun ideas.  Most of them don't work out well, or at all.  But every once in a while you get something that clicks.  And then..." *fires death ray* "You can smile as your foes before you..."

16:46 <Schism> ... fall.

16:47 * Schism illustrates by nomming upon Surry's ears.

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16:56 <Schism> "That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life, and it's probably completely true."

16:58 * Surreal_Nightmares ear flopsies and pulls on Schism's lips

16:58 * Schism waughs!

16:59 * Surreal_Nightmares murrs

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17:12 <Vulpor> mario oddyessy looks great

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17:13 <rela> yes, the mix with reallife people worked great for sonic too

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17:19 <DerpyHooves> rela: Except it did

17:19 <DerpyHooves> and honestly, it's a level...not the full aesthetic

17:19 <Schism> Not at first it didn't.

17:20 * DerpyHooves personally disgrees.

17:20 <DerpyHooves> The differences in style is what, for me, made it an interesting game.

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17:20 <Schism> We're not having the same conversation, I take it.  I meant Sonic 2006.

17:20 <DerpyHooves> Sonic Adventure here

17:21 <DerpyHooves> since that was, ya know, the first one to have the peoples in

17:21 <Schism> Oh, that one was good.

17:21 <Schism> Okay, yeah, wrong conversation.  Sonic Adventure was superb.

17:21 <DerpyHooves> Sonic 06 was a disaster in every other area not called music

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17:22 <Schism> If nothing else, SEGA have tried to make sure the music is pretty good.

17:22 <DerpyHooves> But man am I looking forward to Mania and Forces

17:23 <DerpyHooves> Mania especially, the old school aesthetic is absolutely unbeaten for 2D style hedgie action

17:23 <Schism> I would like to draw your attention to Freedom Planet.

17:23 <DerpyHooves> Eh, I'm not shopping around for new IP's

17:24 <DerpyHooves> I get that it's more of that, but I'm sticking to my knowns for the time being

17:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: MLP Equestria Girls Minis - 'The Show Must Go On Pt.1 & 2' [ http://tinyurl.com/y8t2uro7 ]

17:24 <Schism> Well... okay, then.  Tho it really is more Sonic.

17:25 <Schism> More EQG stuff?  ... though that's on Hasbro's Youtube channel, so it's fair game.

17:26 <Schism> Yes, after the timeframe.

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17:31 <Schism> Without a-spoilin', that Glimglam/Sunset scene was adorable.

17:31 <DerpyHooves> I do agree

17:34 <Schism> ...

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17:36 <Schism> Hmm... I believe I shall heat up some pies.

17:38 <Schism> I shall cook them, and then eat them, and then I believe I shall have a tiny nap.

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17:39 <Thelema5> That sounds lovely

17:40 <Schism> It helps that they're beef pies and I have some peaches to scald.

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17:41 <Schism> Beef pies with peach and habanero jam.

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17:42 <Thelema5> Delish!

17:42 * Surreal_Nightmares curls in Schism's lap

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17:47 <Schism> <Nightmare Moon> Mr. Chamberlain.  Would you bring me... the rod?  <Chamberlain> No!  Not... the rod!  <Nightmare Moon> Did I stutter?  <Chamberlain> Yes, your highness!  <Celestia> And what, exactly, is... the rod?  <Nightmare Moon> Oh, you shall see...

17:47 <Schism> And in walks the gentleman, carefully bringing in a stick with a feather attached.

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17:48 <Librarian> owo

17:49 <Librarian> i went to the local best buy and asked for credit

17:49 <Librarian> i got a credit card for some reason

17:49 <Librarian> not sure what to do with it

17:50 <Thelema5> Buy stuff and then immediately pay it off.

17:50 <Schism> A good idea, to be sure.

17:51 <Thelema5> Repeat.  Do not buy stuff you cannot immediately pay off.  

17:51 <Thelema5> This will help build your credit

17:51 <Librarian> i could get a switch on monthly payments

17:51 <Librarian> no interest

17:52 <Schism> "Your highness, I'm truly sorry... she... she threatened me with my children...!" "WHAT?!" "She promised that if I were at all willful, that she would... she'd..." "WHAT did she promise?" "She'd give them candy at 9 PM and revoke our curfew!"

17:57 <Schism> "..." "What.  What?  You thought I'd honestly threaten foals?  This way's much better." "... you are a hideous demon."

17:58 <Lumindia> hahaha

17:59 <rela> i am looking forward to great balls of fire

18:03 <Thelema5> Librarian: that's the way credit companies lure you in to purchase stuff you can't afford while making you complacent about making timely payments.  It's the gateway drug of credit card debt

18:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Right Round / Littlest Equestria / Duet / Hope / Cyan 13 / Talisman 2:7 / Hollow Shades 74 / Chaos 89 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9a4gdgr ]

18:05 <Thelema5> If you expect to be able to afford something in X months with no interest it's probably best to save the funds yourself for that time and /then/ make the purchase in full

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18:10 <Librarian> good point

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18:38 <Librarian> okkk

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18:38 <Librarian> im really worried what my dad is gonna say when he sees the card

18:38 <Librarian> its better to tell anyway, but still

18:38 <Librarian> owo

18:39 <Thelema5> Your dad shouldn't be involved in your private affairs if they don't directly affect him

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18:42 * Ali eebounces around Thelema5. Metriod Prime 4

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18:48 * Thelema5 yays and partycannons

18:49 <Ali> And 3 ended on such a cliffhanger.

18:50 * Filly_Nightmares licks Ali and lays on face.

18:50 <Ali> And a Mon RPG on the Switch?  This hasn't happened since the Gamecube.

18:50 * Filly_Nightmares has floofbelly

18:50 * Ali raspberries floofbelly of Filly_Nightmares

18:51 * Filly_Nightmares squeals happily and wigglewaggles!

18:52 <fedoramane> is there a 5th equestria girls coming out?

18:53 <Ali> Movie this year is skipped for the MLP: The Movie.  They're doing 3 episode shorts this year for EqG

18:53 * Filly_Nightmares floofsplodes and eeeeeeees

18:54 <fedoramane> oh.

18:54 * Librarian reconstitutes the filly

18:54 <Librarian> i got away easy owo, no nagging

18:55 <Thelema5> Good, good

18:56 <Librarian> i dont even want the switch at the moment owo

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19:06 <Librarian> my card got destroyed owo

19:06 <Librarian> kinda of a shame, it was rather pretty

19:06 <Librarian> but its for the best

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19:09 <Cepheid> !log

19:09 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html

19:10 * Ali boops Cepheid

19:10 <Cepheid> Ali:  Mon RPG?

19:10 <Ali> I saw, first since the Gamecube Era

19:10 <Librarian> more mystery dungeon?

19:10 <Cepheid> No, no.  I don't know what you mean by "Mon RPG"

19:10 * Ali is more eee for Metroid Prime 4

19:10 <Cepheid> You need to be a bit clearer.

19:11 <Cepheid> I'm Eee for Metroid Prime 4, and the 3DS Metroid.

19:11 <Cepheid> Also Xenoblade 2.

19:11 <Ali> Mon is short for pokemon

19:11 <Cepheid> Ah.

19:11 <Cepheid> I'm interested in the Kirby as well, even if the series *IS* hit-and-miss.

19:12 <Ali> I'm just playing Sun/Moon right now

19:12 <Ali> And this Shelgon has me confused how ever stat it has, is better than another Shelgon I also own.

19:12 <Ali> every*

19:12 <Cepheid> Let's see, what's Capcom's schedule for E3..?

19:12 <Ali> Hear about MM Collection 2?

19:12 <Librarian> they have a sale on 3ds a t the moment

19:13 <Librarian> the best is etrian mystery dungeon i think

19:13 <Librarian> cheapy

19:13 <Cepheid> Long story short, it seems like this E3 is pretty much a win for most parties.  Microsoft seems to be taking the hardest hit in terms of questionable behaviour this time around.

19:13 <Ali> Mystery Dungeon was ok at first, but I didn't like it as it rolled along.

19:13 <Cepheid> Etrian Mystery Dungeon is a cute little game.  Not as difficult as the actual Etrian games, though.

19:14 <Librarian> games that dont show the charcters annoy me

19:14 <Cepheid> Heh.

19:14 <Cepheid> Fair enough.

19:14 <Cepheid> Myself, I'm also "eee" over Etrian Odyssey 5 for the West.

19:14 <Cepheid> Bout 'danged time.  Game's been out for over a year in the East.

19:14 <Librarian> thtas why i never could get into etrian

19:14 <Cepheid> Though it does mean I'll have to do the last bits of item collecting in 4.

19:15 <Cepheid> I want that secret passcode.

19:15 <Librarian> im excited for everoasis

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19:15 <Cepheid> It'll be interesting to see Capcom's events.  I'm betting MHXX for Switch and 3DS in the West.  We already know of MHWorld.

19:15 <Librarian> i really like fantasy life, its on the same vein

19:15 <Cepheid> There'll probably be actual demonstration of MHWorld gameplay, to boot.

19:16 <Librarian> thats looks so good

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19:17 <Ali> I still want a new Megaman game.

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19:17 <Cepheid> Heh.

19:17 <Cepheid> Librarian:  Apparently, it's open-world, with co-op gameplay being drop-in mode.

19:17 <Librarian> improbable

19:17 * Heartbreak stuffs pictures and drawings into Librarian's face.

19:17 <Librarian> owo

19:17 <Librarian> i likes

19:18 <Cepheid> Seems like Capcom's experimenting with World.

19:18 <Cepheid> I just wish they'd give an explanation for the delay for PC.

19:18 <Ali> Porting is hard

19:18 * Librarian writes pn hb face

19:18 <Cepheid> I presume "because it's going to be a console port, and we want to give it polish."

19:18 <Heartbreak> Librarian http://sabertooth1980.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/

19:18 <Cepheid> If they just up and said that, I'd be happy, but having an unexplained delay bugs me.

19:18 <Librarian> i wanted a mario and luigi remake news

19:18 <Cepheid> Schism, I finally got my key.

19:19 <Heartbreak> Librarian Start Here: http://sabertooth1980.deviantart.com/art/Project-Unwell-Opening1-680289169

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19:22 <Librarian> its good, way better than mine

19:22 <Heartbreak> Librarian: well, it's 54 pages. Where's your art?!

19:26 * Finwe noms on Heartbreak's tail.

19:26 <Heartbreak> That's not my tail. That's Librarian's tail.

19:26 <Cepheid> So, I've been playing RE7.  Essentially, for me, that game is "Resident Evil:  The house of a thousand screams of [REDACTED]"

19:27 <Finwe> President Evil

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19:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Vincent Tong Based His Feather Bangs Voicework on Justin Bieber [ http://tinyurl.com/y935fskf ]

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19:42 <Librarian> they announced mario!

19:42 <Librarian> happines i has it

19:42 <Thelema5> Yay!

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19:44 <Finwe> Messrs Librarian and Thelema5.

19:44 * Finwe doffs his hat.

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19:52 * Thelema5 salutes

19:53 <Thelema5> It is 87 degrees f in my office right now

19:54 <Thelema5> This is uncomfortable working conditions.  To make matters worse the water cooler broke yesterday o.O

19:56 <Cepheid> 22C, 23C humidex.  That translates tooooo...

19:56 <Cepheid> 72F and 74F respetively.

19:56 <Cepheid> Which, for me, is reasonable.

19:56 <Cepheid> I prefer the low 20s.

19:58 <Thelema5> Seems comfortable

19:58 <Ali> How does a water cooler break?

19:59 <Thelema5> Fan motor burned out

20:00 <Thelema5> Or so the guy from maintenance told me

20:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: NIA: Path of Light Gets a New Teaser to Celebrate Revival [ http://tinyurl.com/y9wotmnk ]

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20:08 <Cepheid> Moving parts eventually burn out and die, yes.

20:08 <Cepheid> Lubricant for bearings dries up or is expended.  Oil to cool parts rubbing against one another dries up, gets dirty or runs out.

20:09 <Vulpor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q8kzXkTl2E

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20:09 <Vulpor> this is the nintendo E3 press conference

20:10 <Librarian> ackk

20:10 <Librarian> they did not say when the superstar saga remake is coming owo

20:10 <Librarian> they just announced it on threhouse, but they forgot that bit

20:11 <Vulpor> pretty much Nintendo made E3 fun again

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20:12 <Cepheid> It seems like Sony and Nintendo have the upper hand this year at E3

20:12 <Cepheid> For whatever reason, people are unimpressed by Microsoft's show.

20:12 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Microsoft showed off their Hardwarw...

20:13 <Ali> METRIOD PRIME FOUR

20:13 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Nothing Memorable about Microsoft.

20:13 <Cepheid> In any case, I'm off for a bit.

20:13 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Cept their new console name.

20:13 <Ali> Xbone2?

20:13 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> No.

20:14 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Xbox One X.

20:14 <Vulpor> Ali I see your metroid..........and raise you a Kirby

20:14 <Ali> So Xbone 2

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20:14 <Ali> I'll see your Kirby and raise you a Switch Pokemon game

20:14 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Ali, yeah cept you can get confused by the name when used Verbally.

20:14 <Vulpor> no all the xbox one x will play everything on xbox one x

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20:15 <Vulpor> but will run the stuff in 4K

20:15 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X.

20:15 <Ali> Why can't they get creative with names anymore?

20:15 * The_Nostalgia_Mare shrugs.

20:15 <Ali> They didn't call the Switch the NES 7

20:16 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Its Microsoft.

20:16 <Ali> I'm sure Sony will just do Playstation 5 when that comes around.

20:16 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> They called their computer things by numbers.

20:17 <Ali> There's more x's in that system's name than 95% of words that have an x

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20:17 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> But Hey.

20:18 * Ali puts hay on The_Nostalgia_Mare

20:20 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Wolfenstein 2, Evul Within 2, God Of War, Beyond good and Evul 2, Shadow Of the Coloussus Remake, Spuderman, Metroid Prime 4, Rabid Vs Nintendo, and Mario Odysesy.

20:25 * The_Nostalgia_Mare noms the hay on Ali as she watches Park and Rec.

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20:28 <Librarian> im hyped for undertale vita, mario and luigi, fire emblem warriors and everoasis

20:28 <Librarian> owo

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20:32 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Undertale has me interested.

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20:49 * Lumindia boops Nossy and Ali!

20:49 <Lumindia> Ponies

20:50 * Ali boops Lumindia

20:50 <Ali> A new Mario and Luigi?

20:51 * Lumindia rolls around

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20:59 <Librarian> not new

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20:59 <Librarian> first one remastered

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21:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Community Soapbox #34 - Gender Roles, Old Vs. New Fandom, Moony, and More [ http://tinyurl.com/y72bz8d4 ]

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21:57 <Schism> So... this is a picture.  https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2014/12/26/793208.png

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22:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Plushie Compilation #244 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycfq622x ]

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22:07 <PKid> hello

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22:12 <Cepheid> Morning.

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22:18 <Librarian> i got etrian dungeon cheap

22:18 <Librarian> owo

22:19 <Librarian> and everoasis

22:19 <Librarian> thta comes out next week

22:21 <Librarian> there is also an undertale package witht them goodiesa

22:21 <Librarian> yay

22:22 * Schism savours the taste of artificial flavours and sugar-free sweeteners which have absolutely no business whatsoever masquerading as grapes.

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22:30 <SaultSteMarie> everoasis is by the mana guy :D

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22:39 <Schism> Communications Over Various Feeds Electronically For Engagement?  Really?

22:40 <Librarian> the cofveve thing?

22:40 <Schism> Evidently there's now an act named that.

22:50 <Vulpor> does anyone here play gran turismo games?

22:50 <PKid> heya vulpor

22:50 <Cepheid> Schism:  Wow, what a way to prevent making the president look like an idiot.

22:51 <Schism> Ah... not quite.  It's an act proposed by a Democratic representative in Illinois, intended to enter any presidential statements made over social media into the Presidential Record in hardcopy.

22:51 <Schism> And making it illegal to try and obfuscate them.

22:52 <Schism> Vulpor: I should play Gran Turismo 2 again sometime.

22:53 <Vulpor> I may get gran turismo sport

22:55 <Cepheid> Ah, so created to ensure that Trumps tweets are preserved for future generations who want to laugh and cry.

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23:00 <SaultSteMarie> god imagine if that passes and like

23:00 <SaultSteMarie> he tweets nudes

23:00 <SaultSteMarie> ... Oh wait sorry for the mental image i'm gonna go uh

23:00 <SaultSteMarie> cry

23:01 <Schism> ... yeah, brain bleach for everyone.

23:01 <SaultSteMarie> oh hey did i find something more powerful than godwin's law for derailing political conversations. yey

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23:11 <Heartbreak> I like turtles.

23:12 * Schism passes Heartbreak a mixture of raisins, cranberries, pepitas, sunflower seeds, peanuts, cashews, banana chips, and dried candied mangoes.

23:13 * Schism then reconsiders, and also passes Heartbreak some chocolate-covered caramel pecans. Turtles, that is.

23:17 <SaultSteMarie> it's not hard to make chocolate turtles look like turtles but like who even does that

23:17 <SaultSteMarie> wait i'm thinking of something else.

23:18 <Schism> I could also prepare a nice hot cup of turtle soup.  o3o  Nothing on a cold night than a piping hot cup of soup!

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23:18 <Schism> (Not that anyone here has ever been a fan of Psychonauts.)

23:20 <Tirek> Give me your cold night.

23:20 <Tirek> I have my AC on and its still somehow 88 degrees F in my room.

23:27 <Lumindia> http://i.imgur.com/KZ50JFn.gifv kek

23:31 <Schism> Tirek: Yeah, it's pretty toasty here, too.  I'm keeping a 2-liter of ice water on hand at all times.

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23:32 <Librarian> i have a problem

23:32 <Librarian> the dog that my akita bit (allegedly) died

23:32 <Librarian> they brought the dead dog to my house

23:32 <Librarian> and my day was going so nicely

23:33 <Librarian> (expletive deleted)

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23:52 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2289 [ http://tinyurl.com/y84brvzs ]

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