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00:03 <ADragonHoarding> DIVIDE
00:03 <CleverDerpy> !link https://derpibooru.org/1457858?q=artist%3Amomomistress
00:03 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about pegasus lesbian pony eyes closed lunaderp (and 10 more)
00:03 <CleverDerpy> so cuuuute~
00:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2295 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybx6mmoa ]
00:04 <Ali> Why, just why do people have to lable all things on there with tags like Lesbian
00:04 <ADragonHoarding> because labels
00:04 <ADragonHoarding> and shipping
00:05 <Verandure> labels are pretty important for indexing.
00:05 <Ali> I call it over tagging
00:05 <Verandure> Especially if you want to filter certain things out.
00:06 * CleverDerpy glomps Ali and noms her ear
00:06 <SaultSteMarie> why would you want to filter out lesbians though
00:06 * Ali squeaks at CleverDerpy
00:06 <Verandure> Why would you want to filter out anything?
00:06 <Ali> I would presume having a filter of lesbian might be...more of the 18+ side
00:06 <Ali> Not saying the picture is bad just
00:07 <Ali> why have so many tags.
00:07 <SaultSteMarie> filtering lesbians removes too much of the essential lesbian oils though. when I brew lesbians I usually go with an espresso system
00:07 <SaultSteMarie> ... I mean uh
00:07 <SaultSteMarie> I am a human and also not a cannibal
00:07 <SaultSteMarie> I am not a robot that eats people.
00:07 <CleverDerpy> isn't cannibal a comedian?
00:08 <SaultSteMarie> <Jerry Seinfeld> What's the deal with airline food made of people!
00:08 <Verandure> Soilent Green!
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00:09 <SaultSteMarie> Oooh, massive stormcloud outside
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00:14 <ADragonHoarding> hngnrf.
00:14 <ADragonHoarding> I want to throw a fic rec at Schism / Divide but he's not paying attention.
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00:33 <Schism> Ah, sorry - I was in the middle of Path of Exile...
00:33 <Schism> Oh blast it.
00:34 <Schism> I finish act 2, and now Adra goes away. *grump*
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01:02 <Starwatcher> who dares
01:03 <Nightsinger101> what
01:05 <Verandure> Hiya, Starwatcher.
01:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Joe Ballarini (MLP Movie Writer) Did an AMA on Reddit - Here Are the Responses! [ http://tinyurl.com/y7wa4e6m ]
01:08 * Schism flops and waves a hoof in the general direction of Twilight`Sparkle. "Adraaaaa. You promised a recommendation." Flops.
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01:09 <Nightsinger101> ????
01:09 <Schism> Sorry, I'm being my usual weird self. Hi.
01:09 <Nightsinger101> i'm used to weird don't worry about it. hi
01:10 <Thelema5> When the going gets weird the weird turn pro
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01:10 <Nightsinger101> agreed
01:10 <Schism> But yeah, one of the folks here promised me a fic recommendation for me to read/analyze/consider. So I'm waiting on eleventerhooks for them to return.
01:11 <Schism> Ideally before I become bored and start chewing on the fourth wall.
01:11 * Schism whispers to Nightsinger101, "(They just replaced it a day or two ago.)"
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01:12 * Nightsinger101 nods
01:14 <Schism> Alternately, I could serve RazorSharpFang a dish of roasted rattlesnake atop rice and spice, red beans, celery and parsley and a side of fried taters.
01:15 <Nightsinger101> that doesn't sound that bad
01:16 <Schism> Nah, so long as you deal with the venom (when applicable), snake and many additions to a herpetarium or ophidarium are rather chicken-like. The preparation is the hard part.
01:17 <Schism> Heck, velociraptor would probably be pretty good eating.
01:17 <Nightsinger101> true
01:19 <Schism> If there's one sad fact, it's that you can't really eat a wild New Orleans crocodile anymore. Not without a medical hazmat team on call, anyway.
01:20 <Nightsinger101> why is that?
01:20 <Schism> With all the pollution which drains into that area, would you want to nom down upon something which lived in it?
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01:21 <Thelema5> Speaking of medical crisis, I'm beginning to wonder if I might be suffering from some sort of advanced kidney disease after having FIVE gout attacks in as many weeks. I've not been able to stand or walk unassisted since May 12th due to significantly compromised joint function
01:22 <Schism> I think you're going to have to schedule an emergency meeting in that case with your endo. That's the sort of thing which could balloon even further out of control.
01:23 <Thelema5> At first I thought it may be the result of excessive drinking, but I've not had a drink in a month but I've had 3 attacks since stopping
01:23 <Schism> Well, probably not endo...
01:23 <Schism> Yeah.
01:23 <Schism> Could have something to do with the result of NOT drinking, but I have my doubts. Is there any way you can finagle an appointment statim?
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01:24 <Thelema5> Maybe. I've not been to a doctor in 20 years so it may be a bit of a process
01:25 <Verandure> I don't think so? Do you have your medical records?
01:25 <Schism> ... gods alive, Thelema5. Okay. Tomorrow morning, first thing.
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01:26 <Schism> Thelema5: How long has it been since you've seen your /dentist/?
01:26 <Thelema5> Verandure, none to speak of. A birth certificare and infant immunization record XD
01:26 * Ali shoves Thelema5 to a doctor
01:26 * Schism adds to Ali's shoving.
01:26 <Verandure> That seems fine for most family practice doctors, in my experience.
01:27 <Ali> 20 years for a family doc? Must be nice. I have to go 4 times a YEAR
01:27 * Schism glares at Thelema5. "Wait. ... when you were last scheduled for a physician..."
01:27 <Thelema5> Good to know. I'll look around for someone accepting new patients
01:27 <Verandure> The internet is a good place to start, on that.
01:28 <Verandure> That said, my physician hasn't updated their site in the past decade... still can't do online appointments.
01:28 <Schism> Check with your local hospital and clinics, too. They may have options on GPs.
01:28 <Thelema5> Schism, I haven't stepped foot in any sort of medical facility since I was a young teenager O.o
01:28 <Verandure> And he's an old fart, now =P
01:29 <Schism> And you're... hm, I want to say 46.
01:29 <clorox> "Any computer that works from the garbage can run with Linux."
01:29 <Thelema5> 42
01:29 * Schism snaps fingers, "So close."
01:29 <Thelema5> XD
01:29 <Schism> But FFS! GET ye to a doctor!
01:30 <Schism> I am serious. Even if you have a specialist for gout, a good GP is a godsend.
01:30 <Thelema5> I will make a point of visiting a doctor for a full evaluation as soon as I can walk in unassisted. ( ._.)
01:30 <Verandure> Get thee to a nunnery! >.<
01:30 * Schism glares at Thelema5. "Get your SO in here."
01:31 <Thelema5> O.o
01:31 <SaultSteMarie> One time I went to a dentist and he said I needed like 12 fillings
01:31 <SaultSteMarie> Mentally I was like, this seems kind of off.
01:32 <Schism> Thelema5: Okay, not really-really, but honestly, what do you think she'd say if your foot started falling off?
01:32 <Schism> "You should really take more vitamins"?
01:33 <Schism> I'm flippin' diabetic, type-1, I know how this goes. Everybody HATES going to the doctor. But please.
01:34 <Thelema5> She encourages me to see a medical practitioner daily, Schism. The fact of the matter is that my anxiety disorder is triggered more acutely by submission to authority than anything else, so subjecting myself to professional scrutiny seems an impossible tastk
01:34 <Schism> If it helps, that's a normal response to going to the doctor.
01:35 <Thelema5> I'm positive that I would have a full-on panic attack in the parking lot
01:35 <Schism> I find it helps to have something to distract me. A good book to bury my nose in.
01:36 <Schism> And sorry, I'm not trying to make light of your concerns, I'm just saying that these are things a lot of people run into.
01:36 <Thelema5> It would be easier if I had my health about me, which is why I say I would be more likely to go when I can walk in unassisted
01:36 <Thelema5> No no, I understand. I appreciate it!
01:37 <Schism> I don't mean to push, but you're 25 years off from going into the doctor's office unassisted. Can walk in unassisted is a bit different from will walk in unassisted.
01:38 <Thelema5> True-ish
01:39 <Schism> Please, Thelema5. I hate wheelchairs, walkers and IV lines too. But that's a helluva lot better than potentially losing your legs for good.
01:40 <SaultSteMarie> btw are you sure it's even gout and not just some weird injury you keep reinjuring
01:40 * Ali noses Thelema5 to the doctor some more.
01:41 <Schism> No, it's been verified, it's definitely urea crystals in Thelema5's joints.
01:41 <SaultSteMarie> how's it been verified if he hasn't been to a doctor :v
01:41 <Verandure> That's malpractice =P
01:41 <Verandure> That's a paddlin'.
01:42 <Schism> Wait...
01:42 <SaultSteMarie> also i thought gout was uh... calcium oxylate/oxalate/wevz
01:42 <Schism> That's a good point. Thelema5, if you were diagnosed properly, you should have also been referred to a GP...
01:43 <Verandure> I don't gout that you have doubt about your anxieties, but doctors are gud.
01:43 <Thelema5> I'm a terrible patient
01:43 <Schism> Nof amusing in this case, Verandure.
01:43 <Schism> Not. ...darnit.
01:44 <Schism> Thelema5: So you threw off the appointment.
01:44 * Thelema5 whistles
01:44 <clorox> Would you get mad if apple trademarks anything with a lowercase i and a word?
01:44 <Schism> Okay, I'm going to say this now and say it once. Do you WANT TO LOSE YOUR LEGS?!
01:45 <SunsetShimmer> ...What is going on?
01:45 <Schism> Thelema5, your hiking videos showed just how much you love to explore the Catskills!
01:45 <Schism> SunsetShimmer, Thelema5 hasn't been to a general practitioner in 25ish years.
01:45 <SunsetShimmer> that sounds a tad irresponsible
01:45 <Schism> And he's been diagnosed with gout in his legs.
01:45 <Thelema5> I will seriously go in for a general checkup in a couple of weeks when things clear up. I was close, REALLY close 5 days ago. I was walking just fine, had NO issues. Then on Friday I felt a minor twinge which resulted in a major gout attack on Saturday...
01:46 <Thelema5> but it'll be good in a couple of days.
01:46 * Thelema5 squees
01:46 <Schism> Thelema5: Yes. And some months ago I was perfectly fine, doing well. Then I wound up in the hospital with diabetic ketoacidosis when I didn't quite keep proper track of myself.
01:46 <Thelema5> You're right, no doubt.
01:47 <Schism> I'm sorry, I know, and it doesn't help a lot to have a bunch of strangers nosing you like this.
01:47 <Thelema5> No, it's cool. I mentioned it, obviously looking for some support XD
01:48 <Thelema5> Or at least, some strong nudging because I' a wuss
01:48 <Thelema5> *I'm
01:48 <Schism> Would you mind if I brought up a comparison?
01:48 <SaultSteMarie> I was really anxious about going to the eye doctor so I like... just scheduled an appointment for the same day :S
01:48 <SaultSteMarie> Not having any wait made it easier :SSS
01:48 <SaultSteMarie> idk if that works with leg doctors.
01:49 <Schism> Thelema5: Some guy in Finance finds an accounting irregularity. He's all set to report it, except... turns out that it's his fault. So he bites his nails and tries to bury it. It comes up again, now it's a snarl. Buried once more. Now it's turned into something hideous.
01:50 <Thelema5> I've been making major strides getting over my anxiety issues, though. Going to a doctor will be major accomplishment in a (recent) line of many minor (and a few major) accomplishments
01:51 <Ali> It took me time to get over my nerves of going to a doc
01:51 <Ali> And I hate going 4 times a year X.x
01:52 <Schism> The hard thing is this. You're afraid of what the doctor is going to turn up. Hell, so am I.
01:52 * Verandure still hasn't been back for their meds T.T
01:53 <Schism> This might be a better way to look at it. If the doctor finds something wrong, something has already gone wrong. And you were making the right choice, then, by going to the doc.
01:53 <Schism> And if they don't find anything, well, isn't that a relief, right?
01:53 <SaultSteMarie> Also if it's nothing they can probably like still give you something to help with your leg blowing up every other week
01:55 <Thelema5> Maybe, Schism. There are other anxieties at work, though... Megalophobia is a big one for me, it keeps me away from large highway structures like bridges, buildings and overpasses which might lead to a practitioner; also agoraphobia is a obvious restictor
01:56 <Thelema5> I'll get there, really. Sooner rather than later. I managed to travel to another state this past weekend, and was away from home for 48 hours. That's a huge step and another one closer to seeking professional help
01:57 <Schism> Those can be worked around in a few ways. I will admit that I have a slight sense of agoraphobia and a very huge sense of acrophobia, both of which I've worked around in the past with some other stimuli. Music helps in many a case, and I swear I could run a catwalk while reading a good novel.
01:57 <SaultSteMarie> So it sounds like they make drugs to help with gout?
01:58 <Schism> Probably helps if you can actually see a doctor.
01:59 <Thelema5> Yeah, I don't get out much at all
01:59 <Schism> Thelema5: If I have my nose buried in a good book and a pair of headphones on my ears, well, I'm not dead to the world - if someone came at me on that set of planks above a 40-floor building, I'd probably apologize, then step to the side.
01:59 <Verandure> You 'get out' more than me, Thelema5.
01:59 <Verandure> I mean, you go hiking. =P
02:00 <Thelema5> XD most of my "getting out" involves escaping from everything and retreating into the woods
02:00 <Verandure> Woods are nice, though.
02:00 <Thelema5> That's more of a regression than anything for me
02:00 <Verandure> I escape into cruddy video games that I don't like >.<
02:00 <Thelema5> :p
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02:04 <Schism> I certainly wouldn't call getting a bit back to nature a bad escape.
02:04 <Verandure> ^
02:05 <Schism> Hey, if it helps any - the sooner you get to a doctor, who can help with your prognosis and treatment, the sooner you can get back to the woods.
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02:06 <Schism> I know it's no longer the season for morels, but surely there's gotta be something out there you want to harvest right now.
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02:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1113 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybsx3vbb ]
02:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discordant Harmony and The Perfect Pair - Possible Early Airing Reminder [ http://tinyurl.com/ya64ayn9 ]
02:20 <Schism> "How...?" "If we were actually fighting, she would evaporate me. This was a sparring match, and not a particularly volatile one. She was testing me to see what I could do. I was testing her to see how she would react to surprises. We both learned something today, and so we both won."
02:22 <Snapai> beep
02:23 * Snapai beeps Schism
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02:24 * Schism rolls over to Snapai, and boops with a platter of sausage ravioli in tomato sauce with parmesan and a small platter of antipasto, as well as a spinach, feta, and olive salad in olive oil.
02:25 <Snapai> pasta and antipasta annihilate in an explosion of FLAVOR
02:25 <Snapai> Schism, help me get a life ;~;
02:25 <Schism> Or they result in STR backlash. </alt.sysadmin.recovery>
02:26 <Schism> Sorry, I'd help if I had one.
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02:27 <Schism> Snapai: This shan't help in the slightest, but I must share. https://banana.fish/sysadmin/ASR.Quotes
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02:27 <Thelema5> Nearly any sort of meager existance can qualify as a life. I think the real problem is that most people don't know what sort of life they want to live.
02:28 <Schism> I'm fine with my pseudo-life, I just like to joke about it a lot. Dunno about Snapai.
02:29 <Snapai> Well here's a thought. What if you can only get a life from others?
02:30 <Snapai> And we've all been tricked into believing that it's something we have to find ourselves?
02:30 <Schism> Certainly an interesting theme for a story, to say the least...
02:31 <Schism> I think that's been explored a couple of times, like in Pact, though I'm also reminded of the manwha DICE.
02:31 <Snapai> What do people want from a life? Love, friendship, and some sort of communal purpose. How do you get any of those without other people?
02:31 <SaultSteMarie> i don't have any particular passions and the only things I'm good at are things I'm not passionate about :]
02:31 <Thelema5> I've personally become convinced that the only sort of life I'll truely be happy with in the long run is working an orchard and producing cider on a commerical scale. It's a long shot but it's given me something to aim for. Getting a life from others? I'm not sure how that would work.
02:31 <SaultSteMarie> ... Which isn't to say I'm good at everything because I hate everything XD
02:31 <Thelema5> It's possible to live for others, but we still need to make those committments and take those actions ourselves
02:32 <Snapai> Even a job is someone asking for help, and someone else saying "I can help!" and then a series of negotiations to make sure they'll actually get along.
02:32 <Thelema5> That much is certain
02:32 <Snapai> But my point is I have lots of things I want to do in life that I can't do on my own. :\
02:33 <Thelema5> No man is an island
02:33 * Ali rolls around on her island...
02:34 <Schism> I guess I could define a live as 'something that lives the world a little better for lives in the future'.
02:34 <Schism> leaves*
02:35 <Snapai> hah
02:35 <Schism> Well, that's kinda what evolution is, ne?
02:36 <Snapai> Actually, the giant project I want to do with my life is like that, but the venn diagram of "people who can help me" and "people who are willing to help me" are two circles that hardly overlap.
02:36 <Snapai> I've rambled on endlessly at you about worker co-ops before right?
02:37 <SaultSteMarie> I have a hard time forming personal connections
02:37 <Schism> I think you have, yeah...
02:37 <Schism> But not to excess, IMO.
02:38 <Schism> Also, I want you to imagine a third circle in your little thought exercise, Snapai.
02:39 <Schism> Because... you're kind of ignoring a very big part.
02:43 * Snapai draws a third circle, fills it with bunnies
02:46 <Snapai> Schism, what is third circle?
02:47 * Thelema5 imagines a circle full of bunnies who are glad to have had Snapai in their lives
02:47 <Schism> People who actually care about your project. :P
02:47 * Nightsinger101 pets bunnies
02:48 <Schism> And alternately... people who are already helping, albeit in a relatively small way.
02:48 <Snapai> <.<
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02:48 * Schism snugs the Snapai! And puts a Judy on his nose.
02:48 <Snapai> Judy?
02:49 <Schism> A certain rabbit in blues.
02:49 <Snapai> oh
02:51 <Schism> Hmmm...
02:52 * Nightsinger101 snuggles da bunnies
02:52 <SaultSteMarie> ... You know that dissociative effect you get from listening to something with weird stereo mixing
02:52 <Schism> "Spell Chess. Nopony but a unicorn or alicorn was capable of seeing it, but what it /was/ was a gentle redirect of aspects of a central spell, a conglomerate of various parts. To anypony else, if there were a visual representation, it would have been like the Rubik's Cube from Hell, twisted endlessly by two parties. Each aspect was flipped, contorted and shifted so that the spell's energy would go to /them./ It was played in turns,
02:52 <Schism> only so that minds didn't explode."
02:52 <Snapai> binaural beats?
02:52 <Schism> Sounds about right.
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02:53 <SaultSteMarie> more like when you're walking next to a sound deadening wall such that you can only hear out of one ear
02:54 <clorox> it's kinda dark how Goombas commit suicide
02:54 <Snapai> Or when people post videos on youtube and dump mono into one stereo channel instead of actually uploading mono. :P
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02:56 <SaultSteMarie> oooooh my god
02:57 <SaultSteMarie> and then your immediate insinct is oh no my headphones are broken
02:58 <Snapai> I was watching Doctor Who and had to switch to headphones because my broken speakers....I don't know where they were mixing the audio channel but it wasn't coming out the L/R speaker channels
02:58 <Snapai> Er, the voice channel
02:58 <Snapai> Spent a couple minutes trying to figure out if they were SUPPOSED to be inaudible, since the music was perfect.
02:58 <Snapai> Eventually switched to headphones and could actually hear what was being said x.x
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03:04 <Snapai> But Schism, have I told you about my studio idea? D:
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03:05 <Schism> I haven't heard, but, um. I'm really sorry. I'm extremely tired. As in 'I'm going to hit the desk in a few minutes'. Considering it's coming from you, though, I have no doubt it'll be superb.
03:06 <Snapai> It's a business concept, so not necessarily entertaining ;p
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03:06 <Snapai> I mean I think it is, but I can imagine the potential of it to benefit human community so...
03:06 <Schism> Okay, I was thinking office studio instead of business studio.
03:07 <Schism> Still too tired, tho, I fear...
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03:09 <Cepheid> Can't sleep any more. Four hours later and I feel wide awake.
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03:11 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C7UgR_sIW0
03:11 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
03:11 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Parov Stelar - All Night (Official Audio)
03:13 <Schism> Cepheid: Got to act 3. I'm going to sleep soon. Maybe. I don't know what's up with my brain, but I both want to sleep and want to listen to more music.
03:16 <Cepheid> I got a lot of catching up to do, then.
03:17 <Snapai> Schism - basically, I just want to get a bunch of awesome artists and writers and musicians et al together to make an animation studio for "profit" - but for the group's community benefit, rather than an outside interest.
03:17 <Schism> If it helps, I think there are a few other items in the guild cache that are actually nomworthy... what class are you again?
03:18 <Schism> Snapai: So, a self-funded collective... you'll have to focus on profit at some point, but for now that does sound like a neat project.
03:18 <Snapai> Schism - oh profit is a big factor, since it's a bootstrap project. But not traditional profit.
03:19 <Snapai> In a normal business, "profit" is extra money that's removed from the business and handed to someone else.
03:19 <Schism> The profit to get the project off the ground, in this case.
03:19 <Snapai> Income.
03:20 <Snapai> Anyways, there's been a fair amount of work done on democratic/flat companies, and stuff, which is useful if it's understood.
03:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Honesty / Baker / Kill Belle / Chaos 90 / Warning / Blue 12 / Sable 23 / Star Mares 3.4.34 / Isolation 134 [ http://tinyurl.com/y95l52ba ]
03:20 <Snapai> One of the neat things is a social necessity to split it up when the number of people is between 150 and 250 people.
03:21 <Schism> That's in excess of Dunbar's Number...
03:21 <Snapai> That's the basis of Dunbar's number actually o3o
03:22 <Snapai> He was studying why a flat democratic company had picked 150 as its split point >.>
03:22 <Schism> Yea, we can't keep a monkeysphere as large as that. o3o
03:22 <Snapai> Which sounds like a limitation, but even authoritarian companies have to split into teams well before that.
03:22 <Snapai> What it actually winds up being is an excuse to make the company divide organically, like an organism growing from a single cell.
03:22 * Cepheid strikes a Diabolist repeatedly. "STOP. RAISING. THE. DEAD."
03:22 * Schism nodnods. "Odd that the number came immediately to mind."
03:23 <Schism> Okay, I'm going to have to turn off my brain before I can get some rest, I'm afraid.
03:23 <Snapai> Coz see...Dunbar had three number ranges, at least. You get logical teams of 30-50 people within an org before you hit the 150 member mark.
03:24 <Snapai> So like, when you split it up, you can just say "okay, these teams go here, and those go there" - and what you wind up with is a company that gradually grows into adjacent markets, while still being good for its community.
03:24 <Snapai> Okay, sleep good :3
03:24 <Schism> Oh, well before. And in that sense, you get a single leader at the 30-person mark, and then at the 5-person mark, and then at the 1-person mark. That's if you're paying attention...
03:25 <Schism> Because of how certain -- yeah, I'm going to have to take a moment and poke at things before I sleep for reals.
03:25 <Snapai> Both Gore and Valve have organic leadership.
03:25 <Snapai> Leaders come about naturally through dynamics, and then when they stop being a gathering point for others, people cluster around other people.
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03:34 <DashedRainbows> Good evening my little horses
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04:11 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Comic: Pinkie Pie Says Goodnight – Confusing [ http://tinyurl.com/ycvvc9am ]
04:11 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Possible Livestream Happening on Twitch of Discordant Harmony [ http://tinyurl.com/y7zk7bww ]
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04:22 <Cepheid> There's a guy who comes by every night in a fancy looking car, revving the engine. Well after the 11 PM "no noise" law kicks in. Would it be wrong of me to record the plate number and report it to the police?
04:24 <Schism> "1.1.5c" : Fixed a bug where occasionally 'Fairgraves, Never Dying' never dies.
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04:24 <Cepheid> Hell of an ironic bug, that one.
04:25 <Cepheid> Also, I'm not getting any work done, I admit, but I just solved a major problem with my roguelike project, so..
04:25 <Cepheid> Though it's not by any means an easy solution. Octtrees are a pain in the rear.
04:25 <Schism> Well, about to sleep here...just eating too much hummus.
04:26 <Cepheid> Myself, I'll leave when I've finished off Mervaile.
04:27 <Schism> I love how all those piles of gold outside her lair turn to dross upon her transformation.
04:30 <Cepheid> Dross, more like skeletons and corpses.
04:30 <Schism> And refuse.
04:30 <Schism> Waste, filth, rubbish. >.>
04:31 <Schism> Which is also a way of defining those worthless humans who sought to be her husband!
04:32 <Schism> Okay, off I go. G'night!
04:32 <Cepheid> G'night.
04:33 <Schism> Oh wait, a'fore I go...
04:33 <Schism> Cepheid, did you ever actually /talk/ to Hargraves? Asking him about X, Y and Z?
04:34 <Cepheid> Yes.
04:34 <Schism> Neat. :> Just curious.
04:34 <Schism> S'a good idea.
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04:44 *** Ali changes topic to 'Welcome to #EquestriaDaily! This channel is rated All Ages | Guide and rules: http://derpy.me/EqDRules |Episode 11 Open For Discussion. Pink Pone saves day for yaks! Yaks like | Spoilers for AU aired episodes are forbidden till aired in the US'
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05:06 <clorox> Would you prefer a villain bat pony
05:06 <clorox> Male or female
05:06 <clorox> Anyway
05:07 <clorox> Who lives in AU anyway due to the topic?
05:07 <Ali> It doesn't matter who lives where
05:07 <Ali> Its the internet age
05:07 <Ali> The episode could be up in the next hour or so
05:07 <clorox> But still
05:08 <clorox> We could know
05:08 <Ali> But the discussions here run on the US airing schedule
05:08 <Ali> So any unaired episode to the US is a banned topic.
05:18 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1424 [ http://tinyurl.com/yazprwjs ]
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05:31 <clorox> Imagine a pony eating meat
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05:40 <Sombra> Imagine a horse fly
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05:45 <LillyTheGuardMoth> Those things hurt. A lot
05:52 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: (New Episode Comfirmed) Possible Livestream Happening on Twitch of Discordant Harmony [ http://tinyurl.com/y7zk7bww ]
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07:52 <clorox> Kinda a real challenge when you use code to draw sprites to the screen
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07:55 <Golden> Good night everyone
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09:13 <CleverDerpy> derp?
09:14 * CleverDerpy laps up some orange juice from a cup
09:19 <CleverDerpy> all done~
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09:48 <CleverDerpy> aw~
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11:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #891 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7e9fzr5 ]
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11:16 <Jackie> This game engine is easy but tedious
11:16 <Jackie> It's hard to find what you need
11:16 <Jackie> Like the resolution of the window
11:20 <Jackie> Oh geez
11:20 <Jackie> You know what
11:20 * Lumindia_ snuggles Derpy!
11:20 <Jackie> http://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/classes/class_configfile.html
11:20 <Jackie> It wouldn't hurt if I used this on engine.cfg
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11:33 <CleverDerpy> Derpy has a tummy ache
11:33 * CleverDerpy lays down and whimpers
11:34 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: (AU) MLP Season 7 Episode 12 - Discordant Harmony - Stream / Discussion [ http://tinyurl.com/y7zk7bww ]
11:35 <ArchPegasusMichael> New episode? o.o
11:35 * Lumindia_ gets Derpy some gingerale
11:35 <Lumindia_> why the heck are the other countries airing before us?
11:39 <CleverDerpy> no idea
11:39 <Finwe> Lt CleverDerpy!
11:39 <Finwe> _o7
11:39 <CleverDerpy> RAdm. Finwe
11:39 <Finwe> Messrs ArchPegasusMichael and Lumindia_.
11:39 * Finwe doffs his hat.
11:39 * CleverDerpy salutes
11:39 * Finwe snuggles CleverDerpy, ArchPegasusMichael and Lumindia_.
11:39 * ArchPegasusMichael salutes o7
11:39 * ArchPegasusMichael snuggles too :3
11:40 <CleverDerpy> sir, I have been meaning to ask this
11:40 <CleverDerpy> where did you get your doffing hat?
11:43 <ArchPegasusMichael> Finally, after all those years, somebody has asked that question
11:44 <CleverDerpy> yay?
11:44 <ArchPegasusMichael> o3o
11:45 <ArchPegasusMichael> !link hat
11:45 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/691282
11:51 <Finwe> CleverDerpy: It's my grandfather's old top hat. o3o
11:52 <Finwe> Although it is a bit small for me. I should buy a new, larger one.
11:52 * Finwe top hats on ArchPegasusMichael.
11:55 * ArchPegasusMichael stands still
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13:43 <Finwe> o3o
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14:31 <Pony_34623> a Lilly appears!
14:32 * Pony_34623 pets
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14:32 <Lumin> o 3o
14:43 * LillyTheGuardMoth licks Lumin hoof.
14:43 <LillyTheGuardMoth> Hi!
14:43 <LillyTheGuardMoth> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jQ2W57Hx/Screenshot_2017-06-19-11-00-00.png
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15:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: My Little Pony Movie Trailer Likely Dropping Next Week! [ http://tinyurl.com/ycxb3lpn ]
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15:23 <ADragonHoarding> zibbidi bibbidi
15:24 * LillyTheGuardMoth slaps ADragonHoarding
15:25 <LillyTheGuardMoth> Go home. Your drunk
15:27 <ADragonHoarding> Can't, I'm at work.
15:35 <Verandure> Workin' hard or hardly workin'?
15:35 * Verandure laughs.
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15:37 <LillyTheGuardMoth> Hehehe
15:38 <LillyTheGuardMoth> Verandure: you got it wrong! It's "so you hard working? Or hardly working?" :P
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15:44 <Tahun> hello
15:44 <LillyTheGuardMoth> Hi
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15:45 <LillyTheGuardMoth> Hahahaha that was fast lol
15:45 <LillyTheGuardMoth> Might just be his Comcast though :p
15:53 <ADragonHoarding> Verandure: yes.
15:53 <Verandure> Me too.
15:53 <ADragonHoarding> LillyTheGuardMoth: it's because he's on Kiwi
15:54 <ADragonHoarding> KiwiIRC is a browser embed client and it closes easily.
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16:18 <Schism> Mmm, that restaurant to which we went was quite good. I ordered a Reuben, and got about a half a pound of meat and cheese on some decent rye. With pickles and mustard - sadly, they did not have any thousand island dressing, but really really good pastrami.
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16:22 <Librarian> i sleep a looot
16:22 <Librarian> 15 hours
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16:35 <ADragonHoarding> well that was a clusterbomb.
16:36 <ADragonHoarding> building was apparently testing fire alarm systems. Set them off in our building, didn't realize they were off...
16:36 <ADragonHoarding> meanwhile nobody knew what was going on and we got a false all-clear and were told have to walk back out again when we walked back in.
16:37 <Lumi> welp
16:37 <ADragonHoarding> yes.
16:37 <ADragonHoarding> hilarious failure.
16:38 <Librarian> like dancing owo
16:39 <Librarian> to the left, to the right
16:39 <ADragonHoarding> Schism!
16:40 <Schism> Yeeees?
16:41 <ADragonHoarding> put this one on your read list: http://archiveofourown.org/works/4942816
16:41 <Schism> Alrighty then. o3o
16:45 <Librarian> i got soething called fordyceps spots owo
16:45 <Librarian> weird points in ma lip, nothing bad but looks weird
16:51 <Librarian> on another topic
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16:52 * Surreal_Nightmares hats on Schism and noms his floof
16:52 * Surreal_Nightmares eats his floof
16:52 * Librarian removes da floof
16:53 * Surreal_Nightmares chews on Librarian
16:53 <Librarian> nuuu
16:53 <Librarian> chewing books is bad
16:53 * Surreal_Nightmares has sharp teef!
16:55 <Librarian> is it a holiday on the us today?
16:56 <Cepheid> Trying to get ahold of a doctor or the psychiatrist I was referred to. No one wants to pick up the phone.
16:57 <Schism> ... yeesh.
16:57 <Schism> Well, it is before 1. Maybe the office is closed for lunch.
16:57 <Cepheid> True.
16:59 <Schism> "What do we do with the most potentially powerful person in the galaxy if they have no ambition?" "I don't suppose threats would do anything." "Not unless 'anything' would include me rolling my eyes a lot, no."
17:01 <Schism> I love these guys. https://www.baldwinpage.com/spacetrawler/2013/04/30/spacetrawler4-5/
17:02 <ADragonHoarding> I have a soft spot for characters that have lots and lots of power and not much inclination to wield it.
17:02 <Schism> As they say, power should be invested in those who don't want it.
17:04 <Cepheid> Ah, there we go.
17:04 <ADragonHoarding> Aye, though there's also the personal physical type of power. Like Silvers Rayleigh in One Piece.
17:05 <Cepheid> Also, apparently the reason the psychiatrist hasn't called was because they're trying to set up a new way to handle appointments, and said method has yet to be set up.
17:05 <ADragonHoarding> well at least there's a reason.
17:05 <Schism> That, uh... okay then.
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17:06 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, all I need now is to get a prescription filled. Turns out my asthma medicines have run out. I hate that these canisters have no way to indicate number of uses left.
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17:07 <ADragonHoarding> ...huh. the average albuterol inhaler does.
17:11 <Cepheid> Really? Not the ones I use.
17:11 <Cepheid> Though if you're talking of the powder-based ones, then yeah.
17:12 <Cepheid> In any case, I suspect my asthma is why I'm not sleeping too well. Sleep apnea from coughing all the time.
17:12 <Librarian> have you tried slleping machines?
17:13 <Cepheid> Those are for a different kind of sleep apnea, as I understand it.
17:14 <Librarian> beats me
17:14 <Librarian> i use one and its rather effective
17:14 <Cepheid> The problem with asthma is that it leaves a web-like fluid in your wind pipe and lungs. It inhibits the ability to breathe clearly, often resulting in coughing and suffocation.
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17:15 <Cepheid> CPAP machines as far as I know are used for the type of sleep apnea caused by snoring.
17:15 <Librarian> yeah, thtas about right
17:15 <Librarian> i snore a lot
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17:16 <ADragonHoarding> (technically speaking I think the snoring is a symptom of the sleep apnea but that's somewhat semantical)
17:16 <Cepheid> Though I guess based on the description of the machines a CPAP machine could work with asthma. It forces pressurized air into the lungs, so it'd alleviate the issue of manual breathing.
17:17 <Cepheid> As manual breathing is usually "stopped" when you start to feel the asthma tickling/aggravating your lungs.
17:17 * Lumi boops Ali
17:17 * Ali squeaks
17:17 <ADragonHoarding> I do know I was on forced oxygen for a day or two back when I had serious asthmatic episodes.
17:17 <ADragonHoarding> (only happened twice)
17:18 * Lumi bellyrubs Ali lots
17:18 <Lumi> pretty pony!
17:18 <Cepheid> My asthma only really gets bad during the summer.
17:18 <Cepheid> Rest of the year, it's somewhat manageable without medication.
17:19 <Librarian> dont rub the mod!
17:19 <Librarian> might make a modexplosion
17:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Deep House Music: eksoka - Sartoria / DJRedSkY - Good Feel [ http://tinyurl.com/ybmf8fea ]
17:19 * ADragonHoarding hats Librarian on Ali
17:19 <Cepheid> No, for that we need an unconstrained female and male mod. That creates a modexplosion, similar to a catsplosion of dorf fortress.
17:20 <ADragonHoarding> ...
17:20 <ADragonHoarding> what
17:20 <Cepheid> Dorf Fortress joke.
17:20 <Cepheid> Catsplosions are where you have a female and male cat, and they just procreate like rabbits.
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17:20 * Filly_Nightmares noms Cepheid's face.
17:20 <ADragonHoarding> yes, I caught that.
17:20 <Cepheid> And because they attach to dorfs quickly, you can't do much about it, like butchering.
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17:20 <Cepheid> Catsplosion - Modexplosion/modsplosion. I was making a terrible joke.
17:21 <ADragonHoarding> I was more "watting" at, uh ...
17:21 <ADragonHoarding> well. mods.
17:21 * Ali flails at ADragonHoarding
17:21 <Cepheid> If we don't control the mods, they'll start reproducing out of control and we'll have to employ butchering or other methods to control them!
17:21 <Cepheid> Otherwise they'll slow down the world!
17:24 <Librarian> owo
17:24 * Librarian dances funkee
17:26 * Cepheid goes about implementing an octree.
17:27 <Cepheid> Hum. There's one problem I can't quite solve though.
17:27 <Librarian> word peace?
17:28 <Librarian> which is like world peace, but in a dictionary
17:29 <Cepheid> Octrees are used for spatial searches of elements using a bounded region. The alternative is to simply iterate over every single element, and check if it falls within the bound region. That problem takes more and more time as the number of elements increases. However..
17:29 <Cepheid> Octrees work under the impression that the elements don't change position.
17:30 <Librarian> i kinda sorta got thar
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17:34 <Cepheid> For the iterative approach, the problem is that it's time consuming. Let's say each element is an NPC of some sort. It doesn't have a target for combat chosen. For each game tick, the game has to iterate over each NPC. For each NPC it iterates over, it has to iterate over every other NPC to determine if A) The other NPC is an enemy, and B) If it can be seen.
17:37 <Cepheid> As the number of NPCs increases, the work increases by a power of 2 minus 1. Thus, 1 = 0, 2 = 3, 3 = 7, 4 = 15 iterations and so on. At 1000, we've 999,999 iterations. A more reasonable 100 active NPCs is is still 9,999 iterations each tick.
17:39 <Cepheid> Whereas the octree approach reduces the amount of work considerably. The only problem is octrees store information about non-moving elements. So if an NPC moves, how is the octree updated? Only idea I can come up with is "remove the NPC from the octree, do the update and move NPC, re-add the NPC to the octree."
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17:42 * Ali flops over Cepheid as her brain just stopped working reading all that.
17:42 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid: You could just deactivate instances when they're beyond X distance from the player.
17:44 <Cepheid> There is that approach, yes. It'd probably just be best to go with that approach and see how it fares.
17:46 <RazorSharpFang> But rather than a step-approach, you could always just have them on a half-second or 1/5 second timers for checking/transitioning between states or something.
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17:49 <Cepheid> It's fortunately a roguelike, turn-based, so the only time work is done is when the player performs an action of some sort. I'm just trying to keep the delay between player turns as minimal as possible.
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17:49 <RazorSharpFang> Well, there's that and you could always have the behaviours attached to events.
17:49 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: Call For Galacon 2017 Cosplay Contest Participants [ http://tinyurl.com/y9qm549k ]
17:49 <RazorSharpFang> I'm sure there's a lot of AI-shortcuts that can be taken as well.
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17:52 <Cepheid> For that, it'd be a case of splitting all the entities into groups. One group being "player", which is the player and all it's allies, another being "neutral" which are targets that can't be attacked and don't attack, and "enemy" which consist of all the attackable entities.
17:53 <Cepheid> The enemy group would only be interested in the player group, and vice versa.
17:53 <RazorSharpFang> That's pretty common, that's faction-based AI groups.
17:53 <Cepheid> Yep.
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17:55 <Cepheid> Mm, I'll just use a combination of both approaches.
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18:14 <Mike_Coltfield> Poni.
18:15 * Ali flops over Mike_Coltfield. "PONIIIIIII."
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18:21 <Schism> Poni poni poni?
18:21 * LillyTheGuardMoth sucks Ali into a game of shadowverse. Uses them to fight the powah
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18:22 * Thelema5 ponies
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18:24 * Cepheid uses Ali as a pillow.
18:26 <ADragonHoarding> Determination.
18:26 <Cepheid> Hmm?
18:26 <ADragonHoarding> In which a tree is planted.
18:27 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Story: A League Too Far [ http://tinyurl.com/ya5cde9x ]
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18:30 <Thelema5> I hear that the movie trailer is expected to drop this week
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18:30 <Thelema5> That's pretty exciting!
18:31 <Verandure> Indeed. I don't really like trailers, though. They give away EVERYTHING.
18:31 <SunsetShimmer> I disagree
18:32 <SunsetShimmer> trailers can be good or bad about plot points - many aren't great at subtlety, its true, but many of them still leave out details and elements you won't know about until you see a film itself.
18:32 <Verandure> Action trailers give away all the set pieces, comedy trailers give away the best jokes, dramas give away the twist, horror gives away the jump scares.
18:32 <Verandure> These are ostensibly all these films have going for them.
18:33 <Thelema5> But they don't offer any context
18:33 <SunsetShimmer> ...thats kinda the same about any medium, where the appeal lies in what you already know.
18:33 <SunsetShimmer> Yes, there are spoilers...but its not every single spoiler
18:34 <Thelema5> We've been waiting a very long time since the movie was first announced, it'll be nice to see firsthoof what direction they've taken it
18:34 <SunsetShimmer> a trailer gives you an idea of the quality before you see a film
18:35 <SunsetShimmer> otherwise going in blind can leave you, if the film is especially bad, with a rather awkward feeling of being cheated
18:35 <SunsetShimmer> plus its MLP - spoiler alert, they all win in the end
18:35 <Thelema5> I already have low expectations due to some spoilers, so honestly I assume that it can only get better
18:36 * Verandure is at work and can't respond in a timely fashion.
18:36 <SunsetShimmer> :P
18:36 <Verandure> Suffice to say: every trailer I've seen has been a microcasm of the movie and the experience of actually viewing the movie, afterwards, was shallow and boring.
18:37 * SunsetShimmer shrugs
18:37 <SunsetShimmer> you seem to be easily put off.
18:37 <Verandure> Yet I wasn't for Death of a Salesman.
18:38 <Verandure> The book. I don't think they made a movie.
18:38 <Thelema5> If a movie can really be condensed into 2 minutes without losing anything of value it probably wasn't worth much more of your time to begin with
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18:39 <Verandure> Indeed.
18:40 * Verandure isn't a movie-horse, at any rate.
18:41 <ADragonHoarding> I'm not so much a fan of trailers either.
18:41 <ADragonHoarding> They seem to be okay when they are the trailers that play in front of other movies.
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18:41 <ADragonHoarding> I have more issues with the cavalcade of trailers that appear on TV.
18:42 <ADragonHoarding> But, that's just my reaction to them.
18:42 <ADragonHoarding> (trailer reactions are by nature subjective and people will like or dislike them for various reasons
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18:44 <Verandure> Indeed
18:46 <Cepheid> Can't imagine the FF14 servers are holding up too well right now.
18:46 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/7jjs7
18:46 <ADragonHoarding> Different friend of mine couldn't get in to play last night
18:46 <Thelema5> I'm just excited to get a glimpse of the world art style
18:47 <Thelema5> Of the movie
18:47 <Cepheid> http://i.imgur.com/WUKt7Hs.png
18:47 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/n0Djq4b XD
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18:52 <Thelema5> Plasmacat
18:53 <Cepheid> You can tell it's not exactly the most pleasant thing in the world too. The cat shakes it's head momentarily every now and then, probably from static buildup.
18:54 <Schism> Well, who didn't lick a battery at one point or another just to feel the tingle?
18:56 <Cepheid> Heh.
18:56 <Cepheid> Hum. I should grab Cave Story+ for the Switch at some point.
18:57 * Schism wonders what Cepheid's best time on Sacred Grounds is.
18:57 <Cepheid> ??'??"
19:01 <Schism> Heh. :P
19:01 <ADragonHoarding> Fight 'dem Butes and Mesas
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19:27 <Cepheid> Hum. Mighty Gunvolt Burst looks like an interesting little game.
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19:29 <FreezeFrame> Yeah, I've debated picking it up.
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19:31 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> o3o
19:31 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I got new Glasses.
19:31 <Schism> Huzzah!
19:33 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I can see stuff.
19:33 <SunsetShimmer> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acA16XIG-Gk
19:33 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
19:33 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about John Cena: "Are you sure about that?" (Original)
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19:34 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> XD
19:34 <SunsetShimmer> x3
19:34 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> The eyes of a tiger.
19:34 <Schism> Hrm. We have been quite patient with my aunt downstairs. Certainly moreso than many. We have allowed her more than enough leeway in her affairs, though now I am sympathizing greatly with my landlord in his admittedly ascerbic treatment of her.
19:35 <Schism> This patience has now expired.
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19:37 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> So I'm watching John Wick Part 2.
19:37 <Schism> Does... does he find his dog?
19:37 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> He has a dog.
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19:37 <Schism> Sorry, anyway, boilerplate action movie aside, how is it?
19:38 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Still..the trailer included a Movie where Keanu is tormented by two young women...
19:38 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> ...
19:38 * Schism ums. "Okay."
19:39 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Considering how I'm gonna watch a movie where Keanu is an Expert Hitman...yeah...I'm not convinced about that trailer..
19:40 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Plus, I need to ask my sister to give me back my copy of John Wick 1.
19:41 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Schism, I think that Both movies are amazing.
19:41 <Schism> Might have to watch it. In unrelated news, the prequel to Hitman (2016) is free now.
19:41 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> The game or movie?
19:42 <Schism> The game.
19:42 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Blood money?
19:42 <Schism> Nah, the 2016 game, not the older ones. http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/819258/Hitman-free-PS4-Xbox-One-PC-release-time-IO-Interactive
19:43 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Oooh.
19:43 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> The boat mission I think...
19:44 <Cepheid> Apparently, one of my asthma medications, which is supposed to be cheaper than the usual medicine, is $176.
19:44 <Schism> I believe you're correct, Nossy.
19:44 * Schism blinks at Cepheid. ..."Ouch. Does Trillium cover that?"
19:44 <Cepheid> I don't have any coverage at all.
19:45 <Schism> WHY exactly are you not on the Ontario Drug Benefit Plan?
19:46 <Cepheid> I don't have a job, and beyond that I don't know.
19:46 <Cepheid> I've never been advised to it's existence.
19:47 <Schism> Seriously? It's intended for low-income folks or those who don't have an active job which pays enough to cover medication sustainably.
19:47 <Schism> Which covers your anti-asthmatics and my insulin. I'd always assumed you were on it.
19:47 <Cepheid> Yeah, but I live with my parents. Doesn't that preclude me from the plan because I'm dependent on them?
19:47 <Schism> Not to the best of my knowledge.
19:48 <Schism> https://www.ontario.ca/page/get-coverage-prescription-drugs
19:48 <SunsetShimmer> Couldn't hurt to ask
19:48 * The_Nostalgia_Mare noms SunsetShimmer. "Nom nom."
19:49 <Schism> The Trillium Drug Program: https://www.ontario.ca/page/get-help-high-prescription-drug-costs
19:49 <Schism> That having been said... you might not qualify as you're currently with your parents.
19:50 <Schism> It's hard for me to say for sure, but looking into those sorts of options is definitely a positive.
19:51 <Cepheid> Well, it may not be worth working on right now. In two month's time I'll have coverage through the school.
19:51 * Schism nods, "Then that's probably best to hold off on, I guess."
19:54 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Wow...so much training for Keanu for John Wick 2.
19:54 <Schism> Hah. A man in Pennsylvania tried lowering an alarm clock-on-a-string into his wall through a vent, hoping that the ringing noise would let him know precisely where the best place to pass a coaxial cable would be.
19:54 <Schism> The alarm clock fell off the string. And for the past 13 years, his wall has been informing him of his foolishness at precisely 7:50 PM.
19:55 <Cepheid> XD
19:58 <Cepheid> http://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/modern-cat-lady-comics-hannah-hillam-5836da74d6032__880.jpg
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20:09 <Schism> Pff. http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1497364978-20170613%20(1).png
20:12 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Isolation 135 / Help / Eat Cake / Sable 24 / Arrival 4 / Cyan 15 / Chaos 91 / Fillies [ http://tinyurl.com/y7ykqqfx ]
20:14 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:17 <Cepheid> Hum, cat is not gonna like this.
20:21 <Cepheid> Squirmy little bug. But he put up with it better than last time.
20:21 * Cepheid is going to start rubbing/brushing Spitfire's teeth every monday.
20:28 <Cepheid> Honestly it's distressing that a cat's teeth can be so painful, as when you poke 'em with a finger, they don't feel all that sharp.
20:30 * Cepheid attacks Schism with a swarm of blood apes.
20:31 * Schism casts a few Shocks, takes down the entire horde in less time than it takes to tell it.
20:31 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:31 <Cepheid> I just hate 'em, 'cause you know. "Run when one dies or is attacked."
20:32 <Schism> I know, they're basically those pygmies from Diablo 2.
20:33 <Schism> It's easy to train them so you can wipe 'em out with a nice piercing shot or three, tho.
20:33 <Schism> Or of course toss down a couple freezing traps.
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20:35 <Cepheid> True.
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20:37 <Cepheid> I need to set up an item filter.
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20:40 <Cepheid> Geezus heavens, where do you FIND this stuff, Schism?
20:41 <Cepheid> 151 Evasion Rating on chest!?
20:41 <Schism> I have some +Rarity equipment.
20:41 <Schism> Thought you'd like that one. :D
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20:49 <Cepheid> "Greystalker the Stalker" ...
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20:55 <Cepheid> Hello creepy lady with a totem made of what appear to be humanoid body parts.
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21:25 <Librarian> owo
21:25 <Librarian> i have nothing to do
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21:25 <sect0r> ,
21:25 <sect0r> http://rarbg.to/torrents.php?search=&category%5B%5D=4
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21:25 <Librarian> im charging for nothing
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21:26 <Librarian> hahahaha
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21:26 <Librarian> its a harmless link, albeit its nsfw stuff
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21:26 <Starlight_Glimmer> Then it isn't harmless, is it?
21:26 <Librarian> do ignore it
21:27 * Starlight_Glimmer floods Librarian's inbox with pony butts
21:27 <Librarian> nuuuu
21:27 * Librarian is sward by them tushies
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21:28 <Librarian> sunsetshimmer
21:28 <Librarian> a guy called sector may be causing troubles
21:28 <Librarian> just a heads ups owo
21:29 <SaultSteMarie> nobody floods my inbox with butts >:T
21:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm afraid you'll have to take the quest to find cute butts by yourself SaultSteMarie
21:32 <Pony_26499> does anyone ever truly deserve to be forgiven?
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21:33 <Starwatcher> why did they forgive trixie? why did they forgive starlight?
21:34 <Tirek> Why shouldn't people be forgiven?
21:34 <Starwatcher> I asked first.
21:36 <Starwatcher> there are a lot of people. wouldn't it be easier to just *not*?
21:37 <Librarian> if you ask me, there are some thing that should not be forgiven
21:37 <Librarian> like kidnapping
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21:39 <Librarian> on the cosideration trixie just bothered losta ponies and never actually hurt anyone
21:39 <Librarian> why not forgive her?
21:39 <Starwatcher> she came close to hurting a lot of them
21:40 <Starwatcher> luna, as well, should not be forgiven.
21:40 <Librarian> umm
21:40 <ADragonHoarding> Well this is moral question.
21:41 <Librarian> luna did not actually harm anyone think
21:41 <ADragonHoarding> The actual question is: is forgiveness a thing that should be granted to anyone?
21:41 <Librarian> she was stooped rather quicly
21:41 <Librarian> on my humble opinion, no
21:41 <ADragonHoarding> So no forgiveness ever?
21:41 <Starwatcher> I'm not sure
21:41 <Starwatcher> maybe sometimes
21:41 <Starwatcher> but luna? no way.
21:42 <Starwatcher> starting wars is not something to be forgiven.
21:42 <ADragonHoarding> Ah.
21:42 <Librarian> i believe that certain things cannot be forgiven
21:42 <ADragonHoarding> I have a question to answer this:
21:42 <ADragonHoarding> er, not answer
21:42 <ADragonHoarding> clarify
21:42 <ADragonHoarding> What war was started?
21:42 <Starwatcher> wasn't there a big fight with celestia?
21:42 <Starwatcher> or were they the only 2 involved
21:43 <ADragonHoarding> Based on what we /see/ in the show?
21:43 <ADragonHoarding> We only see the two of them fighting.
21:43 <Librarian> only them two
21:43 <Starwatcher> ok
21:43 <Starwatcher> but.. why, would celestia forgive her?
21:43 <ADragonHoarding> Celestia locked her away before there was a war, based on the episode with the tree of harmony.
21:43 <Librarian> thats easy
21:43 <ADragonHoarding> Well, Celestia is Luna's sister.
21:43 <Librarian> that
21:43 <ADragonHoarding> And Celestia clearly loves her sister.
21:43 <Starwatcher> that doesn't have to mean anything.
21:43 <ADragonHoarding> Doesn't have to, but clearly does.
21:44 <SunsetShimmer> ^
21:44 <SunsetShimmer> family means second chances most of the time, and it worked out
21:44 <ADragonHoarding> Remember that in this case, you've asked why /Celestia/ forgives her.
21:44 <ADragonHoarding> So to answer that, you examine Celestia's motivations and what we know of her.
21:44 <Librarian> would you condemned a loved one?
21:44 <Starwatcher> yes, after they did it to me
21:44 <ADragonHoarding> Potentially.
21:45 <Starwatcher> and it killed what could be described as my soul
21:45 <SunsetShimmer> Also if the show is to be believed...Lunas foray into Nightmare moon was literally fixed in a 10 minute battle
21:45 <SunsetShimmer> there was no war
21:45 <Librarian> its a hard topic
21:45 <Starwatcher> basically I had to in order to survive
21:45 <ADragonHoarding> I feel it's also important to, when discussing things in the larger sense, understand that forgiveness does /not/ mean there is no punishment.
21:45 <Starwatcher> but if I had to do it all over again, I'd take a different way out.
21:46 <ADragonHoarding> You don't erase consequences by forgiving someone.
21:46 <Librarian> yep. happened to med
21:46 <Librarian> me
21:46 <Golden> Appearently "Yellowstone will possibly erupt in 2 days."
21:46 <ADragonHoarding> It's also important to keep the separation in place between the fictional character and your own people around you.
21:46 <Librarian> is this the big one?
21:47 <ADragonHoarding> "Would you condemn a loved one?" is ultimately not really related to "Celestia forgave her sister."
21:47 <Starwatcher> in a way it is
21:47 <ADragonHoarding> In the broadest sense?
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21:48 <ADragonHoarding> But Luna is not the same person you would, hypothetically, be in the position to forgive.
21:48 <ADragonHoarding> Nor is Celestia you.
21:48 <SunsetShimmer> Luna was redeemable, and Celestia knew that
21:48 <Starwatcher> .. I have to go
21:48 <Starwatcher> I'm going to pretend to be happy to give a presentation.
21:49 <Librarian> golden
21:49 <ADragonHoarding> Work or school? Either way, good luck!
21:49 <Starwatcher> thanks for the conversation.
21:49 <Golden> Hm>
21:49 <Golden> ?*
21:49 <Librarian> where did you got the explsoive info?
21:49 <Librarian> should i start hoarding foof?
21:50 <Golden> disclose.tv
21:50 <ADragonHoarding> http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/20/dont-panic-but-theres-just-been-an-earthquake-near-the-yellowstone-supervolcano-6721638/
21:50 <ADragonHoarding> quick google search finds some stuf.
21:51 <ADragonHoarding> and that article seems to indicate it's business as usual?
21:51 <Librarian> yeah, i think we will be ok
21:51 <Librarian> the disclose thingie also has alien mummys abd voodo dolls
21:51 <Golden> I am highly skeptical of it.
21:52 <ADragonHoarding> ...news sites with auto-playing video are a stupid idea.
21:52 <Librarian> i can dispell any problems you might have with voddo owo, im quite informed on the subject
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22:04 <SaultSteMarie> Doesn't yellowstone have earthquakes a lot
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22:05 <ADragonHoarding> Yes.
22:05 <ADragonHoarding> All the time.
22:05 <ADragonHoarding> This is just a spike of them so people are freaking out despite the experts saying "this is still normal."
22:08 <Golden> Again I am skeptical
22:09 <ADragonHoarding> Skeptical of...
22:11 <Golden> Of the who freak out over Yellowstone and people claiming it's going to erupt
22:11 <ADragonHoarding> ah okay.
22:11 <ADragonHoarding> i'm more concerned about when the earth finally decides its going to swallow california into the sea.
22:11 <Golden> Yeah
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22:13 <SaultSteMarie> oh god
22:13 <SaultSteMarie> that'll be awful
22:13 <SaultSteMarie> the poor sea ;_;
22:13 <ADragonHoarding> don't worry, oregon will go too.
22:13 <SaultSteMarie> Re volcanos though isn't like Rainier erupting the really big concern
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22:15 * Verandure explodes on the scene like plasticine.
22:16 <Verandure> Is Rainier a super-volcano?
22:17 <SaultSteMarie> no but there's just a ton of people living in the damage zone
22:18 <Verandure> That is fair.
22:18 * Verandure shudders, thinking about Mt. Vesuvius.
22:20 * Golden boops Verandure.
22:20 * Verandure noms Golden.
22:20 * Golden returns the noms.
22:24 <SaultSteMarie> Vesuvius by Sufjan Stevens is a good song
22:25 <Verandure> The band piece?
22:26 <Verandure> Nope, not the one I was thinking of. Piano is nice, though.
22:28 <Verandure> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uznUeuhngkE
22:28 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
22:28 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Vesuvius by Frank Ticheli
22:28 <Verandure> Is what came to mind for me =P
22:32 <Golden> :P
22:32 <Verandure> Then there's Bastille's Pompeii.
22:33 <Verandure> You'd think that event has some significance, or something.
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22:39 <Verandure> Any of you been to Pompeii?
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22:49 <Golden> Nope
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23:11 <Librarian> fate grand order is coming to america on sunday owo
23:11 <Librarian> more ways to waste money yay
23:11 <Verandure> Woo
23:13 <Librarian> woot woot
23:15 <SaultSteMarie> fate grand order?
23:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2296 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8cgs72m ]
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23:27 <Librarian> its a game based on the fate stay night anime
23:27 <Librarian> with lottery like summoning of charcters
23:27 * Golden is saving for Danganronpa V3
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