00:03 <Cepheid> Spitfire. *Holds chewed up cable* You see this? *Tap* Bad kitty.
00:03 <Cepheid> I need to figure out what kind of rubber this is, and see if I can find a chew toy made of it.
00:04 <Lumindia> '-'
00:04 <SaultSteMarie> Rubber doesn't matter, just need to pretend you're really upset when the cat chews on the toy so they keep doing it
00:05 <SaultSteMarie> Cats are spiteful like that!
00:05 <Cepheid> The problem is that this rubber attracts the cat.
00:06 <Cepheid> It's not that he's doing it to get attention or because I dislike it.
00:06 <SaultSteMarie> I know I was joking :<
00:06 <Cepheid> It's that it's got something in it, or perhaps it's the texture, that he likes.
00:06 <Cepheid> 'Cause this is the second or third cable now with the same rubberized coating that he's chewed through.
00:07 * Schism poses for Cepheid. "A gentleman is, rather than does!"
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00:08 <Cepheid> ...
00:09 * Schism is not really a zombie.
00:10 <Cepheid> https://us1.factorio.com/assets/img/blog/fff-197-gui-graph-3.gif This is why GUI development is such a nightmare.
00:10 <Schism> Nooo kidding.
00:11 <SaultSteMarie> Factorio?
00:11 <Cepheid> Yeah.
00:11 <Cepheid> All the various widgets, GUI elements and such for Factorio.
00:13 <Cepheid> Though admittedly all of that is a bit excessive.
00:14 <Cepheid> Though the "*Gui" objects is about right. Those are the individual panes with all the widgets for that particular "window"
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00:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Amazing Life Sized Daybreaker Plushie! [ http://tinyurl.com/yd3pdexr ]
00:25 <Cepheid> ... I need to start using Netbeans instead of Eclipse. Eclipse does not work well with JavaFX and it's debugger.
00:26 <Cepheid> Eclipse's UI just freezes when the debugger halts the execution.
00:26 <nscoots> how has #eqdaily ended up as this instead of techponies
00:26 <SaultSteMarie> We're nerds basically?
00:27 <SaultSteMarie> Yeah so job was like
00:27 <Verandure> The smaller channels kinda died, because fracturing a small group is a bad idea.
00:27 <SaultSteMarie> So we get an email from corporate today telling us to sign up for some Microsoft certification exams
00:27 <Verandure> So the general channel becomes the hub for general discussion.
00:27 <SaultSteMarie> The deadline for signup was ten days ago
00:27 <nscoots> fair enough
00:27 <SaultSteMarie> Also only the exams are being reimbursed
00:27 <SaultSteMarie> The 800 dollar training is not
00:28 <nscoots> are books being reimbursed? or training time?
00:29 <nscoots> alaso what M$ certs?
00:29 <Cepheid> More or less. This is a general chat channel. Not all ponies, all the time.
00:29 * nscoots has been away for a while this chan used to be for largely younger poni
00:29 <Cepheid> Certifications to say you're certified to write applications for Windows. Mostly it's about security for software development.
00:30 <Verandure> It's still appropriate for younger ponies.
00:30 <Cepheid> Since applications are particularly prone to exploits that can get heightened access in the OS, among other things. Of course, some of that falls on the OS.
00:30 <Verandure> But the conversation rarely touches pony, anymore =P
00:30 <SaultSteMarie> These are the sort that are like really hard to pass exams for and are completely useless past the interview
00:30 <SaultSteMarie> Like just Azure Cloud Development
00:30 <Cepheid> ... It's not like talking about programming is exclusive to mature adults or anything.
00:30 <Cepheid> I was writing code at 10 years of age.
00:30 <SaultSteMarie> It's not like I'm a mature adult
00:31 <nscoots> I should certainly hope not
00:31 <nscoots> what fun would that be
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00:31 <SaultSteMarie> I mean adult, yes. Mature, no.
00:31 <nscoots> so more involved than the MSCE then?
00:32 <Cepheid> Oddly enough, you don't need to have certs to apply for Microsoft jobs.
00:33 <Cepheid> Back in 2011, I applied and I got a phone interview and an in-person interview. I didn't have any MS certs because I was just about to graduate at the time.
00:33 <nscoots> eh... I know folks with M$ jobs they know their stuff from military no certs so why require
00:33 <Cepheid> I didn't get the job because I panicked and asked too many questions.
00:33 <Cepheid> 2011 was before I was put on the right antidepressant, so..
00:33 <SaultSteMarie> Yeah afaik the certs aren't actually useful beyond making a company look good to clients for forcing their employees to get certifications
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00:34 <nscoots> I keep hearing security folks saying "don't get certs" is my concern...
00:34 <nscoots> as yeah they don't mean more than the cert
00:34 <nscoots> but do help with hr
00:36 <nscoots> that and things like "it is easier to teach a cloud poni security than a security poni cloud..."
00:36 <nscoots> which I agree may well be true
00:38 <Verandure> Yeah, general degrees are the way to go.
00:38 <Verandure> Specialized stuff goes obsolete too quickly.
00:38 <SaultSteMarie> Some people are speculating that the certification push at my company is just to annoy people into quitting.
00:39 <Cepheid> Hum, it's not Eclipse causing the problem. It's something in JavaFX
00:39 <Cepheid> Apparently when the event is emitted, just before then, the application "grabs" the mouse, and doesn't relinquish it until after the event finishes. Thus, when I place a breakpoint in a function called by the event, it breaks.
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01:11 <Cepheid> So, fun fun today. My sister is here with her pupper, and it's being a pain in the butt.
01:11 <Cepheid> I've never seen a dog with so much energy. Follows me everywhere, tail wagging, moving from side to side.
01:11 <Cepheid> Tries to approach the cats to play, gets swatted something fierce.
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01:14 <Cepheid> Schism: Patch 4.01 comes out on Monday, it seems.
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01:17 <Schism> Hmm, should be interesting to see the changes.
01:17 <Schism> Also: the Hildibrand questline does not /stop/ being silly.
01:21 <Cepheid> I'll have to check it out.
01:22 <Lumindia> National Equestrian Racing Federation
01:22 <Lumindia> or, in other words
01:22 <Lumindia> Nerf This!
01:22 * Lumindia ejects out of his mech!
01:24 * Cepheid steals the mech.
01:25 * Cepheid busts through a wall. Over a loudspeaker attached to the mech, in a monotone, computerized voice: "OH YEAH~!"
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01:25 <Schism> Cepheid: Ah, gotta love Maggie.
01:26 <Cepheid> Heh.
01:26 <Cepheid> Did you get her weapons "repaired"?
01:28 <Schism> Not yet.
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01:30 <Cepheid> They basically give mount actions. They do no real damage.
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01:45 <Librarian> Cepheid!
01:45 <Cepheid> Yes?
01:45 <Librarian> glad you ok owo
01:45 <Cepheid> I disappear for two days and you people think I fell off a cliff or something.
01:45 <Librarian> friemship is magic
01:45 <Librarian> i had a question
01:46 <Cepheid> Yes?
01:46 <Librarian> which is the best etrian game?
01:46 <Librarian> im making something of the sort in rpg maker
01:46 <Librarian> so i want to get one for reference
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01:47 <Jackie|Lonely> Yes Foxy
01:47 <Cepheid> Hmm.
01:47 <Jackie|Lonely> That was Foxy
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01:48 <Schism> I would say Etrian Odyssey 4 is considered by many to be best...? Though of course there's always Mystery Dungeon.
01:48 <Cepheid> Etrian Odyssey 4 would be my favourite as it combines many of the best traits from the games prior to it.
01:48 <Librarian> ok
01:49 <Cepheid> Besides that, Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl because the original Etrian Odyssey, for all it's greatness, needed quite a few features to make it a bit more bearable, which the Untold game does.
01:49 <Verandure> lol. You'd think you two were friends or something =P
01:49 <Librarian> beetweb 4 and untold?
01:49 <Cepheid> Honestly, the biggest two changes that made the series much better was the addition of auto-combat, and the ability to move around the field quickly.
01:49 <Cepheid> But between the two, Etrian Odyssey 4.
01:49 <Jackie|Lonely> Anyone here know who's Foxy?
01:50 <Librarian> funny thing i bought it years ago
01:50 <Cepheid> Speaking of, I have to go finish that game in a sense.
01:50 <Cepheid> I've got all but one item.
01:50 <Verandure> The Five Nights at Freddie's character? The Austin Power's character?\
01:50 <Verandure> Powers*
01:50 <Cepheid> If I can get that last item, I can get the best ending in the game, and a special code to use for Etrian Odyssey 5.
01:50 <Librarian> thx for the info, see ya đŸ‘‹
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01:51 <Librarian> iwi
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02:00 <Cepheid> Speaking of Mystery Dungeon, I should start that game over and then try to finish it.
02:00 <Cepheid> Perhaps I'll do that over the next week.
02:00 <Cepheid> I'll of course need to draw upon you misfits for characters. Parties are limited to four characters instead of five, but I suspect I'll need multiple parties anyways.
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02:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1124 [ http://tinyurl.com/yc9k2gpb ]
02:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: INTERVIEW: Penumbra Quill Sheds Some Light on Ponyville's Mysteries [ http://tinyurl.com/y8je6ya5 ]
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02:24 <Cepheid> Hmm.
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02:31 <Cepheid> I've got a faction for a game, but I need a counter faction. Neither side is truly "right" as their goals, though conflicting, involve an entity that neither faction has encountered, or even understands. They are driven by their beliefs about the entity in question.
02:31 <Verandure> So, ideologues.
02:32 <Cepheid> More or less.
02:32 <Verandure> You have a pro and an anti, yeah?
02:33 <Verandure> If both believe it exists, but that it's good or bad, you can do an existentially skeptic faction that just believes it doesn't exist at all.
02:33 <Cepheid> That'd be a third faction, yes.
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02:35 <Cepheid> Hmm, you just gave me an idea with that.
02:35 <Verandure> That was the hope =P
02:38 <Cepheid> Although there will be two main factions with conflicting ideologies, and thus they are at eternal war that never ends, creating a war field world for the player. But somewhere along the line, several smaller groups in each faction break away to create a third hide-in-the-shadows faction that has a different goal in mind, attempting to manipulate the war for their own goal.
02:39 <Cepheid> Which would make the antagonist faction for the player.
02:39 <Verandure> As well as that's kinda how perpetual wars evolve.
02:39 <Verandure> After a few generations, they don't even remember why they're fighting, but they know they have to.
02:40 <Cepheid> Oh, they remember why they're fighting. It just turns out that there's an anomaly in one of the two major factions that, to a small select few groups, is a considerable threat that needs dealing with before their initial war can continue.
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03:00 <Schism> Cepheid: You know how Godbert Manderville is just a little bit crazy?
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03:01 <Cepheid> Yes.
03:01 <Schism> You ain't seen nothin' yet.
03:04 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/7miRCLeFSJo?t=3s
03:04 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
03:04 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Bachman Turner Overdrive - You Aint Seen Nothing Yet
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03:29 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Dubstep Music: Suskii - Fate Of Equestria / GROskAr - Last Stand [ http://tinyurl.com/y7v49ayy ]
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03:46 <Cepheid> Ye know, when it comes to Vulkan..
03:46 <Cepheid> I can think of one hardware developer worse than AMD or nVidia.
03:47 <Cepheid> Intel can't for the life of it figure out how to implement OpenGL, Vulkan or D3D properly on their IGP chipsets.
03:48 <Cepheid> Vulkan's limited to 6th-gen Core i7 processors and higher, and even then it's finicky.
03:49 <Jackie|Lonely> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9EfezZPvk0
03:49 <Cepheid> As it stands, the only Vulkan-enabled system I have is my PC. My server could be upgraded.
03:49 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
03:49 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about pig eats bacon
03:49 * Jackie|Lonely widens eyes
03:50 <Cepheid> Jackie|Lonely: Chickens cannibalize each other as well.
03:50 <Cepheid> In fact they'll kill chickens in the same roost if needed.
03:50 <Cepheid> People think they're nice animals. They're not. They're vicious little creatures.
03:51 <Schism> Cuccos are the most realistic part of Zelda games.
03:51 <Jackie|Lonely> Pigs can eat dead dogs
03:51 <Jackie|Lonely> There's a video to proff
03:51 <Jackie|Lonely> *priif
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03:52 <Cepheid> Animals that we think are cute, peaceful, etc, are actually terrifying in reality.
03:52 <Cepheid> You only ever see or hear the good side of them.
03:53 <Cepheid> Many animals are cruel to other animals, or even their own species.
03:55 <Verandure> Animals are not friendly to one another.
03:55 <Cepheid> Thanks sis, for eating most of my perogies.
03:55 <Cepheid> Fresh new bag. Only 7 remain.
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03:55 * Verandure doesn't know what perogies are other than edibles that look like dumplings.
03:57 <Schism> They share some similarities to potato ravioli.
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03:57 <Verandure> Bleh... more ransomware attacks.
03:58 <Verandure> I guess this is what the script kiddies are doing, now.
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03:58 <Schism> NotPetya, eh... *checks on BleepingComputer*
03:58 <Jackie|Lonely> It's messed up
04:00 <Schism> Lots of them targeting Ukraine.
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04:01 <Cepheid> http://i.imgur.com/podp5l2.jpg
04:02 <Verandure> mmm. That's horrifying.
04:02 <Schism> My name is Kingsonnn Dededoo... and I'm here to clean your clock.
04:03 <Jackie|Lonely> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7av9VhpMBo
04:03 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
04:03 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Cannibal chickens eating chicken
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04:04 <Cepheid> Guess I'll have some peasoup and crackers on the side with the perogies I have.
04:04 <Verandure> I love how they wait for the big one to try it before they start eating.
04:12 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/0XYTf Let's assume, for the moment, he's telling the truth. Why would anyone in their right mind pay $2,000 for a pair of shoes that look like recycled rubber put into a shoe form, melted, and then given some sort of LED lighting inside the vaguely shoe-shaped blob.
04:14 <Schism> For the same reason they'd spend, what was it, $500 on what amounts to a hydraulic press for a bag of juice?
04:14 <Verandure> Ah, Juicero
04:14 <Cepheid> At least that didn't look like it was rummaged from the garbage dump.
04:15 <Verandure> Where you have to have it connected to wi-fi just to turn it on.
04:15 <Cepheid> There are reports of bluetooth-enabled fidget spinners blowing up and catching fire.
04:16 <Cepheid> I'm waiting for the bionic heart that comes with bluetooth enabled.
04:16 <Cepheid> And a password of 1234 for root access to the controlling device.
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04:17 <Schism> The frightening thing is that this is already a possibility, with diabetic insulin pumps.
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04:18 <Cepheid> True.
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04:18 <Cepheid> And after bluetooth? Wi-fi. As an access point. Using no security.
04:19 <Schism> "Hey, our beach balls are wifi enabled and pretty darn smart." "Please don't go haring off on tangents. And Mr. Kornada, your beachballs had very poor security." "Which is why we were able to market them as 'botnet ready'."
04:20 <Verandure> "The Internet of things"
04:20 <Cepheid> The Internet of Unsecured Things.
04:21 <Cepheid> It served a purpose alright. All those connected devices.
04:21 <Verandure> Privacy is dead =D
04:21 <Cepheid> Problem is, it's too late to fix the problem.
04:21 <Cepheid> The worst part is who's responsible for the Internet of Things destroying privacy.
04:21 <Cepheid> It's the average joe with enough knowledge to take over one device.
04:21 <Cepheid> Not the government like you would expect. No, it's the person who might be sitting across from you in the library.
04:22 <Verandure> And the people making a market for it on the deep web.
04:22 <SaultSteMarie> bluetooth enabled fidget spinners
04:22 <SaultSteMarie> what
04:23 <Cepheid> While the government is a dangerous entity due to the amount of power it can command, the more deadly entity is the public.
04:23 <Verandure> It gets GPS location and angular momentum. That way YOU can be on the global leaderboards!
04:23 <Cepheid> SaultSteMarie: THey glow when they spin. Apparently it uses charging over bluetooth, somehow.
04:23 <SaultSteMarie> Cepheid yeah see
04:23 <Verandure> You don't need bluetooth to wireless charge =\
04:24 <Cepheid> I dunno then.
04:24 <Cepheid> The article stated it was bluetooth-enabled. I'm gonna guess it charges via a USB cable, and bluetooth is used for something else then.
04:24 <Cepheid> All I know is that people leave the things plugged in overnight, and then they explode.
04:25 <SaultSteMarie> The internet of things bums me out and I kind of hate the modern IT industry. Maybe I'm a luddite. I don't care :T
04:25 <Cepheid> I'm not a fan of the Internet of Things either, but that doesn't make me a ludite.
04:25 <Cepheid> A ludite is one who shuns all technology
04:25 <Cepheid> On the grounds that it'll destroy us all.
04:26 <SaultSteMarie> wait it only has one d?
04:26 <SaultSteMarie> oh it has two.
04:26 <Schism> Named after Ned Ludd.
04:27 * Schism throws some wooden shoes into the machinery.
04:27 <Cepheid> Regardless of spelling..
04:27 <Cepheid> The point is that they shun technology for, among many reasons, because it'll be the doom of us all.
04:27 <Cepheid> I dunno, I've read about a lot of societies prior to ours that were destroyed for reasons unrelated to technology.
04:28 <Cepheid> Pretty sure Caesar would like to speak about the 23 stab wounds in his back.
04:28 <Verandure> If only the knife weren't wi-fi enabled.
04:28 <Cepheid> Pretty sure they didn't have wi-fi back then.
04:29 <Schism> His hands. What did you do with Caesar's hands?
04:29 <Verandure> They totally did. I mean, it was only 100 years ago =P
04:29 <Verandure> A hand tossed Caesar salad. =P
04:29 * Cepheid sends Verandure to school.
04:30 <Verandure> Et tu, Cepheid?
04:30 <Cepheid> Get an education, my good Verandure.
04:30 <Cepheid> It's clear you failed history, at least.
04:30 * Verandure has many educations.
04:31 * Verandure was being facetious.
04:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Comic: Pinkie Pie Says Goodnight – Silence [ http://tinyurl.com/yck2wtlb ]
04:31 * Cepheid still sends Verandure to school. High School in particular. Let the popularity contest begin again!
04:31 <Verandure> Nah. Nopony has time for that.
04:32 <Cepheid> In any case, I'ma go lay down. Feeling tired for some reason and in need of sleep.
04:32 <Schism> Rest well, then.
04:32 <Cepheid> Will do.
04:33 <SaultSteMarie> Also not entirely in love with how online shopping is killing retail because like... idk around here at least retail contributed to a lot of... vitality?
04:33 <SaultSteMarie> It got people out and doing things in... places where people do things?
04:33 <Schism> Junebugs all over the place... you get those up there, Cephy?
04:34 <Verandure> Congregations of humans ignoring other humans doesn't really have much appeal.
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04:39 <SaultSteMarie> Ideally people don't ignore eachother in these situations :T
04:46 <Verandure> People have a knack for ignoring people. =P
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04:51 <Verandure> Evening, Starwatcher.
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05:19 <CleverDerpy> derp?
05:19 <CleverDerpy> Ali~
05:19 <CleverDerpy> derpy's home!
05:21 <Jahnesta> Heya
05:22 <CleverDerpy> hiya
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05:23 * Schism passes CleverDerpy a lemon cranberry slice with a few sliced almonds on top.
05:23 * CleverDerpy noms the muffin and huggles Schism
05:23 <CleverDerpy> yum, thank you~
05:23 <CleverDerpy> wait a second...
05:24 <Schism> They're not muffins! https://lovinghomemade.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/cranberry-slice-1.jpg <.<
05:24 <CleverDerpy> this isn't a muffin, but it's still yummy
05:25 <Jahnesta> Gasp, no way! :0
05:25 <CleverDerpy> thank you Schism~
05:26 <SaultSteMarie> Yeah so I usually go to Starbucks for breakfast and... the Starbucks I go to is attached to this little area with some other restaurants and tables.
05:27 <SaultSteMarie> Anyway, I was eating stuff there, and a homeless guy walks in, as they do. Not usually an issue.
05:27 <SaultSteMarie> Security comes out and starts talking to the guy, trying to get him to leave for some reason. Like apparently they have his picture and he's on some do not eneter list?
05:27 <SaultSteMarie> It was weird.
05:28 <Verandure> He probably had a criminal trespass warning for the building.
05:29 <SaultSteMarie> Yeah.
05:29 <CleverDerpy> derp?
05:29 <CleverDerpy> sounds scary.
05:29 <SaultSteMarie> It's like a public space though so that makes me thing... idk, drug abuse or assault :T
05:31 * CleverDerpy hugs SaultSteMarie
05:31 <CleverDerpy> Derpy hopes you are oki
05:32 <SaultSteMarie> Oh, I'm fine.
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05:34 <Sombra> Danget
05:34 <Sombra> I guess I'm... pretty good at Sombra..
05:34 <Verandure> I thought you didn't play that?
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05:35 <Sombra> .Oh that was big news
05:35 <Sombra> About a week ago I bought it
05:35 <Sombra> It was a real dark point in my life.
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05:37 <Jahnesta> It suits yoyr name! :P
05:37 <Jahnesta> Your
05:38 <Sombra> Not that that's my favorite character.
05:40 <Jahnesta> But isn't tha game called Sombra too?
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05:50 <CleverDerpy> Jahnesta, doyou has 3ds?
05:50 <Jahnesta> 2ds
05:51 <CleverDerpy> wanna exchange friend codes?
05:51 <Jahnesta> hang on
05:51 <CleverDerpy> frands are goodles~
05:53 <SaultSteMarie> i use my 3ds primarily for youtube
05:53 <SaultSteMarie> although i did play a few minutes of space harrier the other night
05:53 <Gladiolus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/304802270665637889/330585259500371968/image.jpg
05:53 <Gladiolus> o3o
05:54 <SaultSteMarie> what's that red desktop icon second from the top
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05:56 <Jahnesta> CleverDerpy Brb
05:56 <Gladiolus> Classila
05:56 <Gladiolus> a web browser for slow ancient apple gear
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05:57 * Gladiolus is soft
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06:01 * Filly_Nightmares is playing D&D
06:01 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o
06:01 <Gladiolus> 030
06:01 * Filly_Nightmares suckles on Papa Gladiolus
06:01 * Gladiolus tastes of papa
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07:28 <Schism> Pffft. X3 'The sun was shining, the birds were singing, the clichés were in full-bloom.'
07:29 <Verandure> The cliches are always in full-bloom.
07:29 <CleverDerpy> "The floor squeaks, the roof leaks, there's a terrible draft..." "The winters are cold, the summers are brutal, there's a wild man-eating clam in the backyard"
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07:40 <ConfusionRift> Hello there.
07:41 <Verandure> Mornin', ConfusionRift.
07:41 * ConfusionRift waves.
07:42 <CleverDerpy> hiya ConfusionRift
07:42 <CleverDerpy> hiya Verandure
07:42 <Verandure> Yolah, CleverDerpy
07:43 <CleverDerpy> das a new one
07:43 <Verandure> I always say, "Yolah" =P
07:47 <CleverDerpy> it's kinda cute
07:47 * CleverDerpy patpats
07:48 * Verandure blinks.
07:49 <CleverDerpy> sorry, forcive habit
07:54 <Verandure> It's all good.
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08:34 * ConfusionRift thuds
08:34 <CleverDerpy> you oki ConfusionRift?
08:35 * CleverDerpy looks over him for injuries
08:35 <ConfusionRift> Yeah... just a bit bored I guess. And tired.
08:36 * CleverDerpy picks him up and sets him on the couch, with a blanket over him
08:36 <CleverDerpy> nopony should feel too tired,
08:36 <CleverDerpy> you can sleep here for the night
08:38 <ConfusionRift> This coming week is gonna suck too.
08:40 <CleverDerpy> not for Derpy, it's payday today
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10:47 <Finwe> o3o
10:47 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
10:47 <Finwe> o7
10:48 <Finwe> Mr Starwatcher.
10:48 * Finwe doffs his hat.
10:48 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
10:48 * Finwe hats on Sleeping_Nightmares.
10:50 * Lumindia boops Finwe
10:50 <Lumindia> Hiya!
11:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #902 [ http://tinyurl.com/yd8vo8pz ]
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12:58 <Jahnesta> Heya
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13:18 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: US - Equestria Girls Special "Movie Magic" - Stream / Discussion [ http://tinyurl.com/y7slept3 ]
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14:06 <Lumindia> !Link \https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1AaKBbNGkk I found Luna's themesong
14:06 <DerpyBot> Twilight says she doesn't have anything in the library about that
14:06 <Lumindia> !Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1AaKBbNGkk
14:06 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
14:06 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about The Prodigy - The Day Is My Enemy (Official Audio)
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14:09 * Finwe noms on a Lumindia.
14:09 * Lumindia nom'd
14:09 <Lumindia> Uwah
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14:47 <Finwe> o3o
14:47 <Finwe> Mijnheer Jahnesta.
14:47 * Finwe doffs his hat.
14:47 <Jahnesta> Haai Finwe :P
14:48 * Jahnesta Doffs his hat on Finwe
14:48 <Finwe> Shark.
14:48 <Jahnesta> Also
14:48 * Jahnesta Patpats Finwe
14:49 * Finwe is patpatted.
14:49 <Finwe> !s7
14:49 <DerpyBot> The next episode airs in 0d:00h:10m:40s
14:49 <Finwe> o3o!
14:49 <Finwe> Ponies!
14:49 <Jahnesta> No way!
14:49 <Finwe> Norway!
14:50 <Jahnesta> Coupe
14:50 <Jahnesta> Do you guys know a stream or something?
14:50 <Jahnesta> I wanna see it! :3
14:53 <Lumindia> '-'
14:53 <Lumindia> it's not for another half hour, tho
14:53 <Lumindia> that timer is lying
14:53 <Lumindia> http://www.bronystate.net/ is what I use
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14:54 <Jahnesta> CleverDerpy!
14:54 * Lumindia boops Derpy!
14:54 <Lumindia> Hiya!
14:54 <CleverDerpy> Derpy is sad
14:54 <Lumindia> awww
14:54 <Lumindia> why?
14:54 <Jahnesta> Almost new pony!
14:54 <Jahnesta> What's wromg sugarcube?
14:54 <Lumindia> Why is Derpy sad? *hugs*
14:54 <Jahnesta> Wrong
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14:54 <CleverDerpy> 24 patrons pulled out of the program today, I lost over 100 dollars
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14:55 <CleverDerpy> when I woke up, I went from 120 to 20
14:55 <Lumindia> D:
14:55 * Lumindia hugs tightly
14:55 * Jahnesta Cuddles CleverDerpy :)
14:55 <CleverDerpy> Derpy is disappointed
14:56 <Jahnesta> I dont know much about patreon so what happned?
14:56 <Finwe> Lt CleverDerpy!
14:56 <Finwe> _o7
14:56 <CleverDerpy> sorry Finwe, i'm not in the mood
14:56 <Lumindia> Patreon is a platform here you pledge a certain amount of money to a person either on a time-based thing or whenever they do stuff
14:56 * Finwe patpats the CleverDerpy.
14:57 <CleverDerpy> I was gonna save that money for something
14:57 <Finwe> Dollars schmollars.
14:57 <CleverDerpy> now most of it is gone
14:57 <Jahnesta> Cant you get it back somehow?
14:57 <Finwe> That's what we call risk.
14:57 <CleverDerpy> they never intended on paying it
14:58 <CleverDerpy> I guess Derpy is stupid for not charging upfront
14:58 * Finwe nodnods.
14:58 <Jahnesta> They are just jerks for not even paying it i think!
14:59 <CleverDerpy> well, 20 bucks is still a little helpful
14:59 <CleverDerpy> Derpy is gereatful not everyone left...
15:00 <Finwe> 20 bucks is more than $19.99, but less than $20.01.
15:00 <Finwe> What program are we talking about?
15:01 <CleverDerpy> patreon
15:02 <CleverDerpy> now what do I do?
15:03 <Finwe> "Best way for artists and creators to get sustainable income and connect with fans."
15:03 <Finwe> So you had 6 fans, but now you only have one?
15:03 <Finwe> Assuming that the membership fee is $20.
15:03 <Jahnesta> What did those 5 say?
15:04 <CleverDerpy> it's not a fee
15:04 <CleverDerpy> people have tiers,
15:04 <Lumindia> think
15:04 <Lumindia> think 'constant kickstarter'
15:04 <Lumindia> best way I can describve it
15:04 <CleverDerpy> they pay x amount for y product, they can pay more or less for certain things
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15:05 <Twilight`Sparkle> What are we talking about?
15:05 <CleverDerpy> maybe the Princess of friendship has an answer
15:05 <Finwe> "Fans pay you a subscription amount of their choice in exchange for exclusive experiences & behind-the-scenes content."
15:05 <CleverDerpy> your grace, I lost a lot of bits on patreon due to people that unsubscribe
15:05 <Finwe> Sounds like a fee to me.
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15:06 <Finwe> Mr Verandure.
15:06 <Jahnesta> But what would make them do that?
15:06 * Finwe doffs his hat.
15:06 <CleverDerpy> yes, but many didn't pay that fee at all
15:06 <CleverDerpy> they left last minute
15:06 <Verandure> Hi, Finwe.
15:06 <Twilight`Sparkle> I dunno the inner workings of Patreon too well, but... what's your page?
15:06 <Lumindia> that's an underhanded thing to do, really
15:07 <Lumindia> pulling out right before the money is due
15:07 <Verandure> If you look at the graphs, most pages have that issue.
15:08 <Jahnesta> I really wish i could help but i gtg ;(
15:08 <Jahnesta> :(
15:08 <Verandure> https://graphtreon.com/
15:08 <Verandure> For looking in on the statistics of patreon.
15:08 * Twilight`Sparkle pokes CleverDerpy for patreon link so can look at tiers
15:08 * Jahnesta Hugs CleverDery
15:08 <Jahnesta> Good luck with everything Derpy!
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15:09 * Finwe casually noms on Pi.
15:09 * Pi nuzzles Finwe
15:09 <Finwe> Sauna tiem.
15:10 <Finwe> And after that I'm having dinner with some friends.
15:10 <Pi> Can I come? o3o
15:10 <Finwe> I need to iron my tailcoat. o3o
15:10 <Finwe> Pi: Sure, we have food for eight but we're only seven.
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16:52 <Starwatcher> ug
16:52 <Starwatcher> im all torn up
16:52 * Starwatcher holds a hurted hoof close to himself
16:52 <Starwatcher> some cats were fighting and kinda got me
16:53 * Verandure offers Starwatcher a bandage with Pinkie Pie on it. =P
16:53 * Starwatcher smiles and hugs Verandure
16:53 <Starwatcher> thanksies ^^
16:53 <Starwatcher> went to the dr and got it fixed but it hurts =(
16:54 <SaultSteMarie> Ouch :(
16:54 <Verandure> They got you good, then. =\
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17:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Silva Hound - Battle Horns (feat 4EverfreeBrony) [Big Room House] [ http://tinyurl.com/ybxr7zt3 ]
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17:18 <CleverDerpy> derp
17:18 <CleverDerpy> I feel better
17:19 * CleverDerpy offers Starwatcher a home remedy drink that makes pain be forgotten temporarily
17:19 <Verandure> This is good.
17:20 <CleverDerpy> it doesn't just numb the pain, you just forget you are in pain, so it'll eliminate the pain for a bit, but only for a bit...
17:21 <CleverDerpy> Derpy learned to make this drink from zecora, who may be an enchtress, but also makes a mean wildberry muffin moka
17:21 * Verandure could go for a frappe o.o
17:21 <CleverDerpy> there is one side effect though, you become very forgetful during it's run
17:33 <SaultSteMarie> when i was a child i had a fever. my hands... felt just like tuba loons.
17:34 <Lumindia> '-'
17:35 <Lumindia> so Zecora made alcohol
17:35 <Lumindia> that sounds a lot like alcohol
17:37 <SaultSteMarie> So I'm thinking about playing some Japanese summer vacation simulator
17:37 <SaultSteMarie> in july. when I could just... go outside
17:37 <Verandure> That's unpossible.
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17:56 * Schism listens to the thunderstorm. "I suddenly suspect that I might not get out there to view the fireworks."
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17:58 <Finwe> Mr Schism.
17:58 * Finwe doffs his aperitif.
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18:00 <FreezeFrame> Time to go grab some char-grilled wings for lunch.
18:02 <Schism> Ooh, nom.
18:12 <Schism> We'll be having a roast, quartered red potatoes and a few other veggies.
18:17 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Isolation 136-137 / Recall 241 / Books 2 / Talisman 2:8 / Cyan 18 / Reality 56 / Weight / Only One 2 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybj26tfd ]
18:25 * Sleeping_Nightmares suckles on Finwe's floof
18:57 <SaultSteMarie> wouldn't hooves be covered in like ground filth and pesticides
19:00 <Verandure> Yes.
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19:12 <Schism> I've heard it projected that the same fields which ponies use to pick things up with their hooves are usually purposed to 'push away' the majority of dirt and grime.
19:12 <Schism> Certainly not in a foolproof way, but enough that, say, Rarity doesn't need to wash her hooves every time she takes a step.
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19:30 * Schism puts the great big roast in the oven. o3o
19:31 <Schism> Properly seared, of course, to form a crust.
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19:35 <RazorSharpFang> I need to file my taxes. How can I tell if money received is subject to Capital Gains tax or Income Tax?
19:37 <Verandure> Capital gains tax is for company capital. Income tax is for personal income. Are you self employed?
19:37 * Verandure is not a tax lawyer.
19:38 <SaultSteMarie> razor, where do you live?
19:38 <SaultSteMarie> in terms of like country
19:39 <RazorSharpFang> I'm in Australia, and I'm an individual, I am not a company.
19:40 <Verandure> As far as I understand, capital gains tax is for companies or investment capital.
19:41 <RazorSharpFang> Right, but I've been investing and had received proceeds from transactions.
19:42 <Verandure> Ah. Then that is in waters I have no idea on.
19:53 <RazorSharpFang> Good thing I sort my financial statements otherwise this would be hell.
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19:57 * Filly_Nightmares hats on Twilight`Sparkle
19:59 * Filly_Nightmares purrs
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20:13 <Twilight`Sparkle> Manderville/
20:14 <Twilight`Sparkle> *?
20:15 <Twilight`Sparkle> On an entirely different note, Divide, I feel like Jihan could have steamrolled that fight if he wasn't trying not to kill.
20:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Seapony Mane 6 Plushies and Other Movie Lineup On Amazon [ http://tinyurl.com/yac3pxlo ]
20:29 <Divide> Twilight`Sparkle: Oh, in FFXIV.
20:30 <Divide> And I've not read today's yet.
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20:39 <Twilight`Sparkle> Sure, but you're familiar with the fight in question.
20:40 <Twilight`Sparkle> Pretty sure if he was willing to earth spike 'em or boulder crush 'em it'd have been over..
20:41 <Divide> Ah, yes. Almost assuredly.
20:42 <Divide> On the other hand, this /is/ giving him some pretty good information about the cult.
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21:39 <Divide> Gilgamesh is such a fun character. <3
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21:40 <Jahnesta> Derpy how do you feel now?
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21:46 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
21:46 <Jahnesta> Thelema5 Guess who isn't sleeping tonight!
21:48 <Thelema5> Uh, I suppose I would have to guess that you are not sleeping tonigh
21:48 <Thelema5> *tonight
21:49 <Jahnesta> Then you will be correct! :D
21:49 * Jahnesta Gives Thelema5 an cupcake
21:49 <Jahnesta> A
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21:50 * Gladiolus hugs Jahnesta
21:50 * Jahnesta Purrs
21:51 <LillyTheGuardMoth> Ok back to shadowverse.
21:51 <Thelema5> What's keeping you up, Jahnesta?
21:51 <LillyTheGuardMoth> God the weekend players are brutal
21:51 <Jahnesta> Good luck
21:52 <Jahnesta> The curiosity if i would mentally be able to do that
21:52 <Jahnesta> You never know when it might come in handy :P
21:53 <Thelema5> You must be young. XD
21:54 <Jahnesta> Why do you think that?
21:55 <Thelema5> Because when you get older staying up all night is more of a punishment than a fun challenge
21:55 <Jahnesta> Well i'm 15
21:55 <Jahnesta> XD
21:55 <Thelema5> Makes sense.
21:55 <Jahnesta> Take that back!
21:55 * Jahnesta Never makes sence!
22:01 <Thelema5> I found a 20 inch Build-a-Bear Fluttershy plushie at a garage sale today
22:01 <Jahnesta> Nice
22:01 <Thelema5> It's in mint condition- I only paid $1 fo it :)
22:02 <Verandure> Daaang. Those Build-a-bears are expensive, too.
22:02 <Thelema5> Yeah, the only problem is that I don't really have any room for more plushies
22:02 <Thelema5> XD
22:03 * Verandure needs moar!
22:03 <Thelema5> I may install a special dedicated set of shelves
22:03 * Verandure has only a Pinkie Pie.
22:03 <Thelema5> I have some scattered about all over the house, most are in the bedroom though
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22:06 <SaultSteMarie> A have a horse shelf :I
22:06 <Jahnesta_Minion> I have 3 garbage bags filled with plushies!
22:06 <Jahnesta_Minion> B)
22:06 <Verandure> They'll suffocate! >.<
22:06 <Thelema5> Nuuuuuu
22:07 <Jahnesta_Minion> Dont wurry
22:07 <Jahnesta_Minion> They gut air holess!
22:07 <Verandure> Das good.
22:07 <Jahnesta_Minion> And i'm kinda weird with plushies
22:08 <Jahnesta_Minion> I can talk to them :3
22:11 <SaultSteMarie> Hm. Saturday evening. Wonder what I'm gonna disappoint myself doing tonight
22:11 <Jahnesta_Minion> :P
22:12 <Thelema5> SaultSteMarie, the night is young and the possibilites are endless
22:12 <Thelema5> :p
22:13 <SaultSteMarie> yeah but my city's got a heroin problem and the /arts district/ is currently under construction and all the restaurants are too busy to eat at
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22:16 <Jahnesta_Minion> Tomorrow i'm gonna see Despicable me 3!! :D
22:16 <Jahnesta_Minion> No wait today!
22:16 * Jahnesta_Minion Is increddibly Nervsited!
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22:17 <Divide> Gilgamesh is a very silly boss. Very fun, though.
22:17 <CleverDerpy> derp?
22:17 <Verandure> Yolah.
22:17 <Divide> Imagine Pinkie Pie as an 8-foot-tall Oni warrior.
22:18 <CleverDerpy> oni, oni oin
22:18 <CleverDerpy> *oni
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22:33 <CleverDerpy> Thelema5, hiya
22:34 * Thelema5 waves
22:34 <Thelema5> Jahnesta_Minion, you may get to see the MLP movie trailer on the big screen if you go
22:35 <Jahnesta_Minion> No spoilers for me!
22:35 <Thelema5> I was expecting to go tonight, but then my partner got sick so we're staying home instead
22:35 <Jahnesta_Minion> That's too bad!
22:36 <Jahnesta_Minion> Wonder if the new movie will have humans in it
22:38 <Thelema5> I seriously doubt it.
22:38 <Thelema5> That's what EqG is for
22:41 <Jahnesta_Minion> Maybe an eater egg or something?
22:41 <Jahnesta_Minion> Is it true there are newEqG shorts bdw?
22:42 <Thelema5> Yeah, I watched the 1st one and was very disappointed
22:42 <Thelema5> I think they made 3 of them, 22 minutes each
22:42 <Verandure> The second one came out, today.
22:43 <Jahnesta_Minion> Where did you watch it?
22:43 <Verandure> There was a link to the stream on equestriadaily.
22:43 <Verandure> Should still be a mirror there to get to youtube or dailymotion.
22:44 <Thelema5> Is it worth watching, Verandure?
22:44 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story Updates - July 1st [ http://tinyurl.com/ya63lofg ]
22:44 <Jahnesta_Minion> Thelema5 It's EqG!
22:44 <Verandure> I mean, I can't really say much about it for a little bit.
22:44 <Jahnesta_Minion> So yes it is!
22:44 <Verandure> I thought it was okay.
22:45 <SunsetShimmer> The shorts are fairly mediocre, but they work.
22:45 <SunsetShimmer> it is what it isd
22:46 <SunsetShimmer> *is
22:46 <Verandure> The run cycles are bad is about all I can say about it =P
22:46 <Thelema5> The only EqG content I really liked a lot was Rainbow Rocks and Legend of Everfree
22:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> SunsetShimmer: Excuse you
22:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> Best shorts ever
22:48 <Verandure> They're the only shorts. =P
22:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> Technically we had shorts before
22:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> A lot shorter
22:49 <Starlight_Glimmer> Those are more like EqG as an episodic format
22:49 <Jahnesta_Minion> The new ones?
22:49 <Starlight_Glimmer> Also they've brought to life the best gif *bounce bounce*
22:49 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yes
22:50 <Jahnesta_Minion> I always hoped for an EqG spinoff!
22:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> SunsetShimmer is just upset because she doesn't know how to horse anymore
22:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> It's true
22:50 <Verandure> ?
22:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> (Insider joke)
22:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> (You'll get it eventually. I can't explain)
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23:02 <Divide> Ahh... it is truly a sin to have roast beef without horseradish or mustard.
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23:05 <Thelema5> Maybe not a sin, but certainly a lost opportunity
23:05 <Thelema5> Roast beef fairly begs for a pungent condiment
23:07 <RazorSharpFang> Divide: Does include ground beef?
23:07 <Divide> No, ground beef is another matter entirely.
23:08 <RazorSharpFang> What would be good for ground beef that's to be made into burger patties?
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23:14 <Divide> RSF: Well, it depends, really. A splash of worchestershire is never unwelcome. Hint of mustard, too. It really depends on what you're doing with the burgers.
23:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Cardgame Seaquestria Set Listed on Toywiz [ http://tinyurl.com/yabjqker ]
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23:22 <Thelema5> Bleu cheese is a popular burger topper. Sauted mushrooms are a favorite, too
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