00:00 <Schism> Jason Stockley, a policeman who was arrested for shooting Anthony Lamarr Smith for an assault rifle, and accused of planting both a pistol and a bag of heroin on him to justify the decision, was acquitted by a judge in a non-jury trial today. St. Louis is just down the road from Ferguson.
00:00 <Schism> s/for/with/
00:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Another Advanced Screening Contest in New York and Denver for the MLP Movie [ http://tinyurl.com/y72aury2 ]
00:01 <Schism> As such, I highly suspect that there will be a backlash.
00:01 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> guess theres no real boarder between st louis and east snt louis like everyone like to believe
00:02 <Schism> Ah, and I'm evidently behind on the news. CNN reported on ongoing protests not 20 minutes ago.
00:03 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> hmm ill look it up
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00:05 <Cepheid> Bedtime for me, I think.
00:06 <Schism> Sleep well, and dream of baby Metroids.
00:07 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> nini
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00:13 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> hopefully hasbro revisits that sphinx character tho X 3
00:13 <Schism> That, and we need more Ahuizotl. o3o
00:13 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> yee
00:14 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> i think if tey really wanted to , they have reached the oint where they could release sucessfull spinof shows for several characters
00:15 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> on like amaxon prime or something
00:15 <Schism> Well, they've already got a thing going with Netflix anyway.
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00:15 <Schism> And iTunes and... well, you know the lot.
00:16 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> thats just the main show though
00:17 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> *that feeling when you have netflix and amazon prime, but the show you really want to watch is only avaliable with a hulu subscription*
00:17 * Starwatcher looks for somepony to hug
00:17 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> X 3
00:18 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> *goes to pony form and hugs so the proportioans will be better*
00:18 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> *forgot he has a feral for for a moment and goes to that instead*
00:18 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> X 3
00:19 <CladdaghRing> No hugging!
00:20 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> : /
00:20 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> whai not
00:20 <CladdaghRing> Cuz I'm feeling contrary
00:20 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> oh
00:20 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> *hugs both*?
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00:22 <CladdaghRing> Double the fine!
00:22 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> im more confuse
00:22 <CladdaghRing> You do actions by starting your sentence with /me , by the way.
00:22 * CladdaghRing does /me
00:22 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> i forgot
00:23 <CladdaghRing> Just incase you didn't know!
00:23 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> i forgot it worked here
00:23 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> i havent used irc in years
00:23 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> my appologies
00:23 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> lol
00:24 <CladdaghRing> Tis getting on a bit in years, aye
00:24 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> yee
00:24 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> very much so
00:25 <Schism> How to discomfit a werewolf: http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/2178
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00:29 <PrinceIcefrost> bye everypony
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00:30 <PrinceIcefrost> bye everypony
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00:35 <Asoka> i think this staate parlament building has something special: http://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/nordmagazin/bilderaktion/westmecklenburg9528_v-contentxl.jpg
00:37 <Scarlet_Harmony> Ooh... That looks cool....
00:40 <Asoka> yes it is 800 to 900 years old building an the federal staate parlament from mecklenburg vorpommern
00:41 <Schism> Asoka: Are you sure that's a real building and not a hand-crafted model?
00:41 <Asoka> yes im shure
00:42 <Schism> Because it looks like that would not be amiss in a particularly fantastic wargaming or fantasy set.
00:42 <Asoka> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landtag_of_Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
00:42 <Asoka> Schism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerin_Palace
00:42 <Schism> Also, what's with those spires and cornets? There's like twenty different kinds of rooftop in that thing.
00:43 <Schism> (Yes I know it's real, I'm just poking fun.)
00:43 <Asoka> this building is old and many times extended and rebuilded...
00:44 <Schism> Oh, four architects at the start. That explains a lot.
00:45 <Asoka> oh yes or this palace is one of my favorites: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Schloss_Neuschwanstein_2013.jpg/1200px-Schloss_Neuschwanstein_2013.jpg
00:45 <Asoka> https://www.urlaubsguru.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/schloss-neuschwanstein-istock_76630297_xlarge-editorial-only-bluejayphoto-2.jpg
00:46 <Schism> Asoka: See, now that palace has a defined style, very rococo but at least it's consistent.
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00:46 <Asoka> oh this picture is nice: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/e2/20/3be220ad1e313941c9bd616d44a7cd0a.jpg
00:47 <Schism> Schloss Neuschwanstein was the basis for most of the Disney model of castle design.
00:47 <Asoka> yes
00:47 <Schism> Of course, if I recall correctly it bankrupted three nobles in short order and led to the suicide of at least one.
00:48 <Asoka> or here a real castle hohenzollern: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Burg_Hohenzollern_ak.jpg
00:48 <Schism> That looks like it would be an absolute bear to besiege.
00:48 <Schism> Then again, I wouldn't want to be on the defending team, either.
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00:50 <Schism> I think my favourite castle of all in fiction or reality, though, is Dontgonearthe Castle.
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00:52 <Asoka> Schism and what you think about the welfen palace in hannover?: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Universit%C3%A4t_Hannover_-_Hauptgeb%C3%A4ude_-_B02.jpg
00:53 <Schism> Ehhhhh little bit too clean, a bit too institutional-looking.
00:53 <Surreal_Nightmares> https://lucasaldebrandi.deviantart.com/art/Filly-Nightmares-704644559?ga_submit_new=10%3A1505519509
00:53 * Filly_Nightmares goes o4o
00:53 <Asoka> it is because today it is used as university
00:54 <Asoka> oh this is the atrium: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Atrium_Lichthof_main_building_Welfenschloss_Leibniz_Universitatet_Hannover_Am_Welfengarten_Nordstadt_Hannover_Germany.jpg
00:54 * Schism nodnods, "You could see that as the basis of a reformed government or a university, but you can't really look at it and think that it's a castle."
00:55 <Schism> Okay, I really like that ceiling and floor pattern.
00:55 <Schism> Even if the full thing does really nasty things to the eyes.
00:55 * PinkieShy hands Schism the cheesecake
00:56 * Schism counters by handing PinkieShy a pot of tea and a selection of cinnamon raisin scones.
00:56 <Asoka> ok and that you think about this building her?: https://www.hcf.uni-hannover.de/fileadmin/banken_hcf/2010_SoSem/FFM_2010/Neues-Rathaus-Hannover.jpg
00:59 <Asoka> this building is only 104 years old
00:59 <Schism> Not sure if I like the aquamarine-slash-tarnished-copper colour atop. It does play nciely with the windows' shades in reflection, but for some reason it feels extraneous. The design of the building all in all does look good, holds together well.
00:59 <Asoka> yes this is the new towns hall hannover
01:00 <Schism> And of course you can walk right out of the building and sink into the pond when you're tired of the bureaucracy. Important for a civil building, that.
01:00 <Asoka> this is the old townshall: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Hannover_old_townhall_Karmarschstrasse_Mitte_Hannover_Germany_02.jpg/800px-Hannover_old_townhall_Karmarschstrasse_Mitte_Hannover_Germany_02.jpg
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01:00 <Asoka> first part builded 1410
01:01 <Schism> And now it's a shopping mall.
01:01 <Asoka> not only
01:01 <Schism> Well, yes, but I communicate primarily in snark.
01:02 <Asoka> partial still used for goverment thinks
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01:05 <Asoka> oh the building with the longest building time: http://www.ksta.de/image/3071772/max/1920/1080/47732a9200a6a42dccf6a20e98028d92/la/1485e600e255dfa0-jpg.jpg
01:05 <Asoka> they needed only 600 years to finish it XD
01:06 <Schism> I used the term 'rococo' before. I clearly didn't have an appreciation for it.
01:07 <Schism> That building is Baroque.
01:08 <Asoka> yes
01:08 <Schism> Made all the more punctual by all those other, simplistic buildings surrounding it, even those bridge arches to the right.
01:09 <Schism> (Yes, this is totally a proper use of 'punctual'.)
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01:10 <Asoka> yes and her a picture how shows the big difference between us and european citys: https://trave.de/trave-wAssets/img/Altstadt_Grundstuecksges_Trave.JPG
01:10 <Asoka> city of lübeck a very old hansa city
01:11 <Schism> I'm sorry, I still have absolutely no clue what's up with that particular colour of Lyra Heartstrings green.
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01:12 <Schism> Using it to denote public buildings is a helpful little visual aid, certainly, but why THAT shade?
01:13 <Asoka> her a city plan from 1750 from this city: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/L%C3%BCbeck_Seutter.jpg
01:14 <Schism> Oh yes, I recall those protrusions had a military purpose as they would facilitate keeping watch over the borders.
01:14 <Asoka> the strong red buildings are goverment buildings like town hall or armory
01:14 <Asoka> no not to watch the border
01:15 <Asoka> it is to defend the city
01:15 <Schism> The one implies the other.
01:16 <Schism> By providing a clear line of sight, one can more readily sight the cannons et cetera.
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01:16 <KooK> Harble
01:16 <Schism> And I'm surprised. So green would mean institutions, churches, et cetera which aren't to be targeted...
01:17 <Asoka> here nürnberg the old part of the city: https://www.nuernbergluftbild.de/images/luftbild/Q10020531.JPG
01:18 <Asoka> no the church to this was very very rich
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01:21 <Asoka> Schism her on the picture from nördlingen you can see the old city wall: http://www.familienbayern.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/noerdlingen_luftbild.jpg
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01:21 <Asoka> and tey are a symbol of power and readiness to this time
01:22 <Asoka> a big wall build arround a city symbolizeds a rich strong city
01:22 <Schism> Ah, more of an auburn shade that, very striking in turn.
01:23 <Schism> The weirdest thing is comparing these cities to those in the US and Canada, or even to Berlin.
01:23 <Asoka> berlin has to a such old core like this city
01:24 * Schism nodnods, "But the core of a city in the US and Canada looks entirely different, for any number of reasons."
01:24 <Asoka> her the old city part of berlin: http://www.floatinghouse.de/images/liegeplaetze-standorte/berlin-koepenick/berlin-koepenick-altstadt-hausbootliegeplatz.jpg
01:26 <Schism> Well, you can definitely see how they grew from highly-defensible areas with outlying suburbs into the sprawling metropoli they are today.
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01:27 <Asoka> yes and to the time of 1800 was berlin the biggest city on the world
01:28 <Asoka> and they needed such thinks like electrical trams and so
01:28 <Asoka> oh and her is the german residence for our president: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Berlin_-_Schloss_Bellevue2.jpg
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01:31 <Asoka> this is the residence in berlin but he had a second residence in bonn: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Villa_Hammerschmidt_Bonn_Seite_Adenauerallee_20080831.jpg
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01:34 <Schism> https://twitter.com/dantheshive/status/908511855261491200 < This.
01:34 <Asoka> Schism the most interesting think in german citys is you can see how the city adapted to the needs of people
01:34 <KooK> Is that so?
01:34 * Schism nodnods. "Over the course of years."
01:35 <KooK> (asoka means, ah, is that so? in Japanese)
01:35 * Golden is loving Metroid
01:35 <Asoka> KooK or is a female name
01:35 <KooK> Are you coming on to me?
01:36 <Asoka> yeah then i think how founded colonia and how this city changed other the nearly 1960 year long city history
01:39 <PinkieShy> Anybody know much about realtek?
01:40 <Asoka> nope sorry i don't use realtek side few years my actuall soundcard comes from maudio
01:41 <PinkieShy> At least does anybody know is Asus a better motherboard maker than gigabyte or other way around?
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01:42 <Schism> Oh this is neat. In Bioshock, any time an enemy gets the drop on you, their first attack always misses. Always.
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01:46 <PinkieShy> Schism which is better from your knownledge? SupremeFX audio or Realtek
01:47 <Schism> I don't have a point of reference for comparison, I'm afraid.
01:47 <Asoka> PinkieShy you need a quality soundcard?
01:47 <CleverDerpy> hey, does anyone know of a good pci card for wireless?
01:48 <PinkieShy> Asoka i can't even install it if wanted
01:48 <CleverDerpy> my birthday is coming up, family wants to get me something, i can use it
01:48 <PinkieShy> my graphics card is blocking the port needed
01:48 <PinkieShy> and the other open slot is legacy PCI
01:48 <Asoka> have you a free usb or fireport?
01:48 <CleverDerpy> ?
01:48 <PinkieShy> Here is my motherboard if you wanna have a look at it
01:48 <Asoka> i mean PinkieShy
01:48 <CleverDerpy> i have a few free USB 2 and 3
01:48 <PinkieShy> GA-78LMT-s2 REV 1.2
01:48 <CleverDerpy> dunno about a fire port
01:49 <CleverDerpy> oh, oki
01:49 <PinkieShy> I got many USB ports on here
01:49 <PinkieShy> Most is open
01:51 <Asoka> hum her 2 really good sound cards: https://www.thomann.de/gb/headrush_pedalboard.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/rme_fireface_ufx_2.htm
01:55 <Asoka> PinkieShy: this one is simular to witch i use in the moment: https://www.thomann.de/gb/m_audio_m_track_quad.htm
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01:58 * Ali pops up behind CleverDerpy and hugs~
01:58 <CladdaghRing> I said no hugs hours ago!
01:58 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> CleverDerpy, Ye tried Project Octopath Traveler demo?
01:59 * Ali hugs CladdaghRing just cause!
01:59 * CladdaghRing flails pathetically
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02:14 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> well nice to meet you all and reconnect witht he fandom alittle ^^, i think im going to head off irc
02:14 <PinkieShy> !hug
02:14 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3
02:14 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around PinkieShy in a tight embrace
02:14 <Sinth_the_Sphinx> *hugs* : p
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02:32 <Schism> "What." "What?" "I caught the barest edges of that. What did you just do?" "Chrysalis just tried to subjugate me. I taught her why that was a very bad idea." "WHAT DID YOU JUST DO." "Ever have a song stuck in your head?" "...yes." "This is worse." "WHAT DID YOU DO?!"
02:33 <PinkieShy> Thinking of going full ATX in a year..
02:33 <PinkieShy> When i do what should i use to get rid of the thermal paste on the CPU so it can be cleaned for a better heatsink?
02:34 <PinkieShy> I'll most likely upgrade that as well including the motherboard
02:34 <Schism> I generally tend to use isopropyl alcohol or nail polish remover to clean the old thermal paste off a CPU.
02:35 <PinkieShy> Alright :)
02:35 <Schism> Acetone or isopropyl tend to evaporate quite quickly and don't leave behind a lot of residue. Isopropyl is best in this regard, IMO.
02:36 <Schism> If you do go with the acetone route, be sure to pick a nail polish remover which does not contain fragrances or colours.
02:37 <Schism> PinkieShy: You know how to apply thermal paste or grease in the first place, right?
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02:40 <Schism> I'm not asking maliciously, a lot of people genuinely do not.
02:44 <Tirek> Are you referring to the GIF I think you're referring to?
02:45 <Schism> Not intentionally, but if you mean a GIF where someone puts a huge blob of paste on a CPU, then I might be.
02:45 <PinkieShy> Schism you do a pea size on the center of the CPU?
02:45 <Schism> Tiny pea size, and then I fold up a piece of printer paper several times or use an index card to spread it around.
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02:47 <Schism> Basically, just making sure that it's a smooth, complete and air-pocket-free coverage which won't leak out over the sides.
02:50 <Schism> Tirek: thanks, by the way, I'm once again seeing the grease leaking over the edge of the chip like a badly-made cheese sandwich and screaming in my mind.
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02:57 <PinkieShy> Schism i thought it was bad to spread it?
02:57 <PinkieShy> I always heard that when you apply the heatsink it spreads regardless
02:58 <Schism> I prefer to apply a very thin layer. Which prevents air bubbles from forming and ensures a pretty even distribution of heat.
03:00 <Schism> Just squeezing down a pea-sized bubble of paste seems like it might cause those concerns.
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03:03 <Schism> Ah well. We all know that thermal paste dripping over the sides of the chip is a Bad Thing.
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03:07 <PinkieShy> Schism i guess probably i should look for heatsinks with preinstalled thermal paste :)
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03:09 <Schism> That is certainly an option. Just make sure they're actually viable.
03:10 <Golden> Good night everyone
03:11 <Tirek> Ahahahahah! Good. That was the intent.
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03:11 <Inferno_Flame> Hello
03:11 <Schism> So, when /did/ you decide to become an evil overlord?
03:12 <Schism> In your wayward youth, I take it.
03:13 <Inferno_Flame> ?
03:17 <Tirek> It comes naturally.
03:18 <Tirek> Also, I'm rewatching SatAM, so drawing inspiration from the best villain.
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03:20 <Schism> One of these days I need to watch that. Eggman really is a pretty decent jerkface.
03:21 <Tirek> He's nothin' like Eggman. Eggman's a moron.
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03:42 <SunsetShimmer> <Tirek> Also, I'm rewatching SatAM, so drawing inspiration from the best villain. - Young-me was so disheartened when, 3 or so years after it ended, I realised it wasn't continuing.
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03:47 <Tirek> I need to read the comics eventually.
03:48 <Saerydoth> Eggman is his original name though :P
03:48 <SunsetShimmer> well, you'll have to pick them up on ebay or back catalogue...that ship has ended
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03:49 <SunsetShimmer> Eeehhh, but he's still robotnik to many. :P
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03:53 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
03:54 <DashedRainbows> Good evening Thelema5
03:58 <PinkieShy> hihi
04:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Bonus Music #85 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9o2ka77 ]
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04:02 <Thelema5> Oh, I missed KooK
04:02 <Thelema5> :(
04:02 <Thelema5> I do like that pone
04:02 <Thelema5> But I like you guys too!
04:07 <Tirek> I'm differentiating Eggman from Robotnik because cartoons.
04:08 <Tirek> It's easier to consider them as separate entitites.
04:08 <Tirek> The comics did it.
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04:15 <Thelema5> I missed the premiere of The Orville last Sunday
04:15 <Thelema5> I wonder where I can find it?
04:18 * Ali bets the tubes of you or motions of daily
04:20 * Thelema5 nodnods
04:21 <Thelema5> I'm pretty excited to se the show, looks like so much fun
04:21 <Thelema5> *see
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04:30 * Schism chops up some chicken breast, adds basil, onion, celery, carrot and green pepper, fries the resultant hash in butter for a little bit, then serves to Thelema5 on a sourdough bun after spicing it up with some sliced pepper rounds and a slice or two of gouda.
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04:31 <Thelema5> Thanksie, Schism!
04:32 * Thelema5 is watching The Orville, so far so good, exactly what I expected
04:33 <Thelema5> Seth Macfarlane is a huge fand of Star Trek: TNG and this project, a comedy homage to the series, seems to be right on point
04:34 <Thelema5> *fan
04:35 * Schism also steals the sandwich away from Thelema5 in order to add some baby spinach, then returns it.
04:35 * Thelema5 eeees
04:37 <Schism> Huh. o3o Um... Thelema5, do you remember an old film named "Galaxy Quest", which was very much part Star Trek, part The Last Starfighter, and part Seinfeld?
04:37 <Schism> I say an 'old' film, of course.
04:38 <Schism> ... when referencing several properties which are many times older than it.
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04:38 <Thelema5> Yes, Galaxy Quest was awesome
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04:39 <Thelema5> I can't even believe you just referenced the last starfighter XD
04:39 <Schism> What! It's a classic.
04:40 * Thelema5 snerks
04:40 <Thelema5> I don't think I've seen that film in 20 years
04:40 <Schism> Never said it was a good classic.
04:40 <Schism> But it's still one of those movies. <3
04:40 <Schism> On reading the premise of The Orville, that's kinda the vibe I'm getting, anyway.
04:41 <Schism> The best part, Thelema5? I was born in 1986. The Last Starfighter came out in 1984.
04:42 <Schism> You may now begin cracking right the heck up.
04:43 <Thelema5> Heh
04:44 <Thelema5> I was 10 in 1984- I don't think I saw that film until the 90's
04:44 <Schism> I'm now imagining Rainbow Dash performing a Death Blossom and accidentally flinging all her pinions. At which point she falls out of the sky, screaming bloody murder.
04:45 <Schism> (Fluttershy catches her, tho.)
04:46 <Schism> Thelema5: I definitely didn't, obviously -- though you might have caught TRON while it was still in theatres.
04:46 * Filly_Nightmares prods Schism
04:46 * Filly_Nightmares wonders if Schism has seen new art of floof!
04:47 * Schism puffs into a ball of fluff!
04:47 * Filly_Nightmares jumps into Schism's floof!
04:47 <Schism> Did not see new filly art.
04:47 <Thelema5> Nope. Too young
04:47 <Filly_Nightmares> https://lucasaldebrandi.deviantart.com/art/Filly-Nightmares-704644559?ga_submit_new=10%3A1505519509
04:47 <Schism> Blup. Skree!
04:48 * Thelema5 squees
04:49 <Starwatcher> you're adorable Filly_Nightmares
04:49 <Schism> So much die. https://lucasaldebrandi.deviantart.com/art/The-Die-of-Dice-626647835
04:50 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
04:52 <Schism> <Shining Armor> Spike! Stop eating all my dice! <Spike> But they're so tasty... <Shining Armor> I don't care, I paid a lot for those D6s and-- <Spike> *gulp* ... I'll, ah, pay you back?
04:58 <Schism> "What was that D20, anyway?" "Pink diamond, specifically etched, with gold-edged obsidian layered to form the numbers. It was a very specific request by Mi Amore and could sell on the market for about 5,000 bits. Well. Could have sold."
05:01 <Thelema5> ... Rose Quartz shattered pink diamond
05:01 <Thelema5> Or so we have been lead to believe
05:01 <Schism> I reject your universe made of Stephen.
05:01 <Thelema5> Nooooo
05:01 <Schism> Pink diamonds are a kinda hot property here in the real world tho.
05:02 <SunsetShimmer> So they're hot pink!
05:03 <Thelema5> XD
05:04 <Schism> They are the kinds of stones over which people commit murder, so yes. Yes, they are hot pink. o3o
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05:05 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/dtA-juh3rf4
05:05 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
05:05 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Steven Universe | "What's The Use in Feeling Blue?" Song | Cartoon Network
05:05 <Schism> "I'm sorry. Did I say five thousand? I meant five million."
05:05 <Thelema5> I'd be remiss if I failed to share
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05:08 <Schism> What's the use of feeling--
05:13 <Schism> Thelema5: And then you get a diamond coloured like this. https://www.gia.edu/images/143044.jpg
05:13 <Thelema5> Watching Rebecca Sugar (Show creator, writer, storyboard artist and composer) play these songs to demo her ideas are cathartic
05:13 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/BQRHStbwWus
05:13 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
05:13 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Steven Universe | Rebecca Sugar performs "What's the Use of Feeling (Blue)" | Cartoon Network
05:14 <Schism> And wonder what that Gem would be like in the context of Stephen Universe.
05:14 <Thelema5> Schism, that's nuts!
05:14 <Schism> Steven*
05:14 <Schism> Yes, yes it is. o.o And that is a diamond.
05:15 <Schism> That would be this one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeYoung_Red_Diamond - And it's even more evil from other angles.
05:16 <Thelema5> I'd love to see a rogue diamond appear on SU
05:16 <Schism> It'd be awesome, no argument. <3
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05:20 <Schism> By the by, I am not joking when I say that stones of this nature usually have a couple of murders attached to them. Most of the highest-grade, top-tier stones are considered cursed because their owners have died under mysterious and not-at-all-suspicious circumstances.
05:20 <Schism> This may be just a teensy bit relevant to Steven Universe. Only just a bit, tho.
05:21 <Thelema5> Yupsie
05:21 <Thelema5> According to the latest MLP movie trailer... Rarity cannot even.
05:21 <Schism> It's not like most of the Gems which the viewers have grown attached to have found themselves suddenly dead.
05:21 <Thelema5> She's soo sorry.
05:22 <Thelema5> ...but the bad guys have won
05:22 * Schism raises a flag for Tom, who perished before his time.
05:22 <SunsetShimmer> *Whining!*
05:23 <SunsetShimmer> Rarity is such a great ham, gotta love tabi'
05:23 <Schism> I still say that Coco and Marshmallow is the best ship ever.
05:23 <Thelema5> I DO love the whining sequence in the new trailer
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05:28 <Schism> "So, people don't like a perfect diamond. That's fine... I guess. Why don't I use the concept of a neural network to approximate the cracks and imperfections which normally plague a natural rock?" --a few weeks later-- "Mommy!" "OH GOD WHAT"
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06:17 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Sia's "Rainbow" Now Available on Her Official Youtube Channel [ http://tinyurl.com/y6w9dyrn ]
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06:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #979 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybenj48x ]
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07:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: MLP Season 7 Episode 19 - It Isn't the Mane Thing About You - Stream / Discussiom [ http://tinyurl.com/ybynyub2 ]
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08:12 <Starwatcher> someone rescue me
08:12 <Starwatcher> please
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08:14 <Tirek> From what?
08:15 <Starlight_Glimmer> From Tirek
08:15 <Starlight_Glimmer> Good morning ;)
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08:22 <Sleeping_Nightmares> +
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09:02 <Tirek> Well, they won't need rescuing from me now, since I'm retiring for the morning.
09:02 <Tirek> Time to snooze.
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14:25 <DashedRainbows> Good morning equines of limited size
14:43 <Pi> pone
14:43 <Pi> poneponepone
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14:55 <Pi> helly
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15:19 <Schism> Yanno, city, if you're going to dig up power lines, a little advance notice would be greeeeat.
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15:51 <Cepheid> Morning.
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15:54 <Cepheid> I had received an e-mail saying I suddenly owed the school $3,042.
15:55 <Finwe> o3o
15:55 <Cepheid> They sent an e-mail statement for the next semester in January.
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15:55 <Cepheid> The $3,042 I owe them is for next semester, and I got an OSAP deadline deferral, so I can just ignore the e-mail.
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15:59 <Finwe> Lt Cdr CleverDerpy.
15:59 <Finwe> o7
16:01 <Cepheid> In other news, I'm getting an inner-ear infection and coughing a lot again.
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16:08 <Finwe> Miss Ali.
16:08 * Finwe doffs his hat.
16:08 * Ali doffs herself over Finwe and yawns
16:08 * Finwe sticks his hoof into Ali's gaping muzzle.
16:08 * SunsetShimmer doffs ali
16:09 * Ali noms Finwe hoof and snugs on SunsetShimmer
16:09 <SunsetShimmer> <3
16:11 * Cepheid sits atop Ali as a hat.
16:14 * Ali muffledsqueaks cause she's nomming Finwe hoof still!
16:17 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/ChrisHallbeck/status/908340162349944832
16:19 <Schism> Also good: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJxmQqrU8AAjREn.jpg:large
16:19 <Cepheid> In other news, my cat is grounded and barred from my room for two days.
16:19 <Schism> Cables?
16:20 <Cepheid> He knocked over a table that my tablet and glasses were sitting on. The glasses are fine. The tablet has a 1" gouge in it's screen.
16:20 <Schism> Owwww.
16:21 <SunsetShimmer> Ouch indeed
16:23 <Ali> Things break too easily nowadays
16:24 <Ali> Also how does Apple invalidate a new phone in a record 25mins
16:25 <Cepheid> This tablet lasted me quite a bit. And resisted most accidents that should have scratched it.
16:25 <Cepheid> Why this particular accident did, I don't know.
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16:25 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI5_enwW0AIP1Ej.jpg:large I fear this, to be honest. Their kneading behaviour is troublesome for me. I've got a number of shirts with miniscule holes in them.
16:27 <Schism> You may be amused to note patent 7657849, registered to Apple.
16:27 <Schism> Or possibly 8,046,721.
16:28 <Cepheid> What is it?
16:28 <Schism> "Unlocking a device by performing gestures on an unlock image."
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16:29 <Cepheid> The unlock swipe.
16:29 <Schism> Yup.
16:29 <SunsetShimmer> the funniest thing I've seen said about this new phone is 'Apple are secretly getting people to register faces to an information database'
16:30 <Cepheid> I wonder how long it'll be before they're granted patents for all the stuff they unveiled on the iPhone X, never mind the fact that they're copying ideas from other companies.
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16:30 <Schism> Cepheid! They're not copying from other people. They're working with a proprietary mode of innovation involving social engineering.
16:31 <SunsetShimmer> Social thought Osmosis!
16:31 <Cepheid> I didn't understand what you just said.
16:31 <Ali> Face ID, so your 'friends' can unlock your phone while you sleep.
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16:33 <Cepheid> Hey Schism, did you read my little "heart jumped out of my chest" moment earlier?
16:33 <Schism> I was probably either asleep or going through a power outage.
16:34 <Cepheid> University sent me an e-statement for $3,042.
16:34 <Schism> Cepheid: Stealing ideas is so last century. We need a new paradigm, a way to diagram the process to provoke an entirely different reaction, a new look on things, which is why we've now patented Jumping In Front.
16:34 <Schism> Oh, yea. Thankfully it isn't necessary to fear just yet.
16:34 <Cepheid> Yes.
16:34 <Cepheid> It's just come ON, could you wait until it's nearly the start of the next semester?
16:35 <Cepheid> I just paid the university $6,000 two weeks ago.
16:35 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/TwoPaddocks/status/908781390174416896
16:35 <Schism> So what you're saying is that the Bursar's office is the only part of the university that actually cares about telling their students things ahead of time.
16:36 <Cepheid> Yes.
16:36 <Cepheid> But way, way, way too early.
16:37 <Cepheid> I don't have $3,042. I only have about $700.
16:37 <Schism> Too many dried frog pills.
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16:41 * Schism contemplates making up some chicken nuggets with honey mustard sauce.
16:45 * Cepheid makes a coffee.
16:51 <OctaveSymphony> Woooo, monday gonna be interesting
16:51 <Cepheid> Oh?
16:51 <OctaveSymphony> I'll know if my union rep has done what he said he was going to do
16:51 <Cepheid> Ah.
16:52 <OctaveSymphony> Got called to union related education course, in the wrong town so he was going to fix that last week, but I haven't heard a thing from him about it
16:52 <OctaveSymphony> But since he said that he was fixing it, I haven't called in myself
16:53 <Cepheid> Hum. After a week, it may be a good idea to call if nothing's happened.
16:53 <Cepheid> Just mention that you're following up on what you discussed, etc.
16:53 <OctaveSymphony> The union rep works at the same place as me ^^
16:53 <Cepheid> I suggested calling because the union rep may be too busy for you to bother in person. In a meeting, etc. With a phone, you can leave a message.
16:54 <OctaveSymphony> I'm honestly just testing them a bit because I'm getting the feeling that the local union club isn't working in a way that I actually want to get dragged into
16:54 <OctaveSymphony> And he's an ordinary factory worker, not sitting in meetings etc
16:54 <Cepheid> Right, right.
16:54 <OctaveSymphony> We don't have any full time union people, all involved work like everyone else
16:55 <OctaveSymphony> But yeah, I've heard a lot of bad stuff since getting voted into this role and if they can't solve something simple as a wrongly booked course without me badgering on about it...
16:57 <Cepheid> I know about the "quirk" of Metroid 2, but even with that knowledge..
16:57 <Cepheid> I'm 3 hours in, at 18% completion. This is gearing up to be a longer game than it makes itself out to be.
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17:07 <Cepheid> Plus that's really only as far as the in-game clock is concerned. I assume there's at least a lost hour or two there from death.
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17:17 * Schism randomly outfits Heartbreak with some cold iron raiment.
17:17 <Cepheid> This area just keeps getting deeper and deeper.
17:19 <Cepheid> Alas, the area names are reminiscent of Metroid 2: "Area 1" "Area 2" "Area 3" and so on.
17:21 <Cepheid> After this I think I'll install a GB emulator on my 3DS, and play Metroid 2. :P
17:21 <Cepheid> I've never finished it. That, or the original Metroid.
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17:23 <Cepheid> Hum. There seems to be similarities between the maps. With additions.
17:24 <Cepheid> https://i.warosu.org/data/vr/img/0025/18/1436241446622.gif I'm in Area 3. The location I'm in, relative to the original map is those three long vertical sections of Area 3.
17:24 <Schism> Those are some ridiculously long shafts.
17:25 <Schism> Albeit not quite as severe as that one in Area 6.
17:25 <Cepheid> That said, Area 3 does appear to have a theme to explain those shafts.
17:25 <Schism> Also, Cepheid: Why not instead play AM2R?
17:25 <Cepheid> I could also do that.
17:25 <Cepheid> But why not just play all 3 then?
17:25 <Schism> True. o3o
17:26 <Cepheid> AM2R is a remake in itself, it probably doesn't faithfully follow the original map like Samus Returns.
17:26 <Schism> Judge for yourself. https://i.imgur.com/D2znYJ6.png
17:28 <Cepheid> There are differences I can see already.
17:28 * Schism nodnods.
17:28 <Schism> Well, yea.
17:28 <Cepheid> But yeah, I'll play all 3 versions.
17:28 <Cepheid> Should have played Metroid 2 first to begin with.
17:28 <Schism> I guess that Samus Returns really was the main reason they shut down AM2R.
17:29 <Schism> Well, beyond that they're kinda jerks.
17:29 <Cepheid> And even then it was just the lawyers. Pretty sure the dev team didn't mind.
17:29 <Cepheid> I recall the dev team being asked about AM2R, and they thought it was cool, but unfortunate that it was shut down.
17:30 * Schism nods. "Wonder how many decided to play it."
17:30 <Schism> Heh, probably all of them.
17:30 <Cepheid> Probably.
17:30 <Cepheid> Nintendo's lawyers are stuck in the past when it comes to fanworks, it appears.
17:31 <Schism> A lot of lawyers are. They don't quite get the whole Streisand Effect, or much about media in general.
17:33 <Schism> <John Oliver> Card catalogues. Is it possible to use a metaphor more archaic than that?
17:37 <Cepheid> I wonder what kind of metroids those are..
17:37 <Schism> Babby Metroids.
17:38 <Schism> Well, not really. Probably beta?
17:38 <Cepheid> There's a fe types.
17:38 <Cepheid> This one appears to have been a Zeta Metroid.
17:39 <Cepheid> The basic one is an Alpha, the next higher up Beta. I'm at Zeta. But I've also seen another type that's not covered in Metroid 2.
17:43 <Cepheid> Hum.
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17:44 <Cepheid> The team behind this game referenced a lot of other games. Super Metroid enemies appearing in the background, along with Metroid Fusion enemies and such.
17:45 <Cepheid> One that stands out to me is that long, worm-like miniboss that moves from entranceway-to-entranceway in Meridia from Super Metroid.
17:48 <Schism> Hmm, the implication that possibly the Space Pirates imported livestock from other planets for defense.
17:48 <Schism> Or exported them, rather like they did the Metroids themselves.
17:49 <Cepheid> Hey, HEY! Get back here! *Chases after Metroid*
17:49 <Cepheid> But yeah.
17:52 <Schism> Got the Speed Booster yet?
17:52 <Cepheid> Alas, no.
17:53 <Cepheid> And for the record, yes, the bomb jump climbing DOES work as in the other games. Unlike one, which tweaked it so you could only bomb jump like once or twice.
17:54 * Schism nodnods! "How about the charge beam bomb trick?"
17:55 * Sleeping_Nightmares licks Cepheid and clambers onto Schism's head
17:55 * Schism screes.
17:55 * Schism peers at Filly_Metroid.
17:56 <Cepheid> Hum, so wait, the original game even restricts how far you can go until you've killed a certain number of metroids? Huh.
17:56 <Schism> Yup, so does AM2R - to a point, anyway. Lava and boulder blockages.
17:57 <Cepheid> Here it's purple lava. You can enter it, but it burns. It burns like lava.
17:57 <Schism> There was planned to be an 'another run' variant where those were removed, allowing complete access to the areas ahead of time.
17:58 <Cepheid> Each such area has a "gate" of sorts, that demands the DNA of a certain number of metroids to move onwards.
17:58 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Episode Promo for A Health of Information Appears [ http://tinyurl.com/yacfpnus ]
18:00 * Schism noddles. Also, peers at Reggie Fils-Aime. "It's almost impressive to see a video game executive as tone-deaf as this man is."
18:01 <Cepheid> Oh?
18:01 <SunsetShimmer> Haha. xD
18:01 <Schism> "When it turns to driving the direction of the IP, or somehow monetizing or becoming a commercial project, that's where for us, the line has been crossed." -his explanation on the DMCA against AM2R.
18:02 <SunsetShimmer> Eh, that's the way of life
18:04 <Cepheid> Were they accepting donations for the project?
18:04 <Schism> Nyope. No donations, no nothing, it was all entirely done on their own time and their own budget.
18:04 <Schism> They were very careful not to make waves in that sense.
18:05 <Cepheid> Hum.
18:05 <Cepheid> So lawyers being picky and annoying, then feeding misleading information.
18:06 <Schism> The lawyers just said, "Hey, it's our IP, we need to stop you here." Reggie Fils-Aime, on the other hand, expanded on that, calling it a commercial project -- a backhanded compliment, now that I think about it.
18:06 <Schism> Or saying that it was driving the direction of Nintendo's IP, which is another interesting sort of compliment in a way.
18:06 * Cepheid shrugs.
18:06 <SunsetShimmer> considering that they shortly after announced samus returns, this is probably why.
18:07 <Schism> Indeed.
18:07 <SunsetShimmer> Projects like that can be on a backburner for a while, so there's no telling when they decided on it
18:07 <Schism> Mind, they were at least reasonable enough to send that DMCA two days after it was released to an internet on which nothing ever truly disappears.
18:07 <Cepheid> I don't approve of it myself, to be honest, companies are allowed to protect their IP for whatever reasons, be it imagined or real reasons. That said, Nintendo's lawyers and upper management are keen on shutting down such projects, and it hurts them, but not enough for them to understand that fact, so..
18:08 <SunsetShimmer> Nintendo will do a nintendo.
18:08 <Schism> No sense passing laws against people shooting themselves in the foot.
18:08 <SunsetShimmer> Eh, it's up to them if they decide if its a benefit or not in the end
18:08 <Cepheid> Sooner or later, Nintendo will get a swift slap upside the face, and a re-arrangement will occur. When that'll happen is unknown.
18:08 <Schism> SunsetShimmer, by the way, have you played Avian Attorney?
18:09 <SunsetShimmer> Nope, lol
18:09 <Schism> Er, Aviary Attorney.
18:10 <Schism> Phoenix Wright, with birds and a superb Victorian-era art style.
18:10 <SunsetShimmer> Aaaah
18:10 <Schism> http://store.steampowered.com/app/384630/Aviary_Attorney/
18:11 <Cepheid> Six down for this area, four more to go.
18:14 <Cepheid> Yes! Energy tank! Sweet energy!
18:14 <Cepheid> Heh. I still love how that song works.
18:14 <Cepheid> If you enter heated areas in the game, the most glorious of themes plays, the Lower Norfair theme from Super Metroid.
18:14 <Cepheid> It even overrides boss battle music.
18:15 <Schism> Ahh, yes, that theme. o3o
18:16 <Cepheid> The only other theme more recognizable is the Super Metroid boss theme. Wonder if they'll try to fit it in here somehow.
18:16 <Schism> Huh. I didn't know that Danganronpa 1&2 were released for PC.
18:17 <Schism> Weird, it's also bundled with Crypt of the Necrodancer.
18:17 <Cepheid> Well, the Super Metroid boss theme, and the little audio clip that plays when you get an item. And the Metroid opening theme.
18:19 <Cepheid> ... Right, not getting through *THAT*.
18:19 <Schism> Entirely too much lava to tank?
18:19 <Cepheid> Yup.
18:19 <Cepheid> Most everything hurts really badly in this game. The lava moreso.
18:20 <Cepheid> Four tanks is not enough.
18:23 <Schism> Considering the height of that particular shaft, I doubt that ten would be.
18:23 <Cepheid> It wasn't a shaft in this case. Long tunnel. Let me see..
18:23 <Schism> Aha.
18:24 <Cepheid> I think it may not be a part of the original game, but let's see if I can place it on the map.
18:24 <Cepheid> Alpha metroid over on the far-right of the original game map.
18:24 <Cepheid> Area 3.
18:25 <Cepheid> The area is laid out differently, but it's about the right spot.
18:25 <Schism> Aha. I thought that's where you were, wasn't sure.
18:25 <Schism> For some reason I was thinking of Area 10. Not sure where I got that idea.
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18:26 <Cepheid> I should stop looking at that map. The relative locations of items is about accurate, too.
18:28 <Cepheid> Two more to go. I know where one is. The other, not so much.
18:30 <Cepheid> Got a guess as to it's location, though.
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18:39 <Schism> By the by, best ending for AM2R requires you beat it in under 2 hours. o3o
18:40 <Schism> No clue whatsoever what the requirements are for Samus Returns.
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18:40 <Cepheid> I'm well over that by this point.
18:40 <Cepheid> I'm expecting 15-20 hours minimum.
18:41 * Schism nodnods. "It'll likely take you a long while to get to the point where you can speedrun the game like that, if you decide to do so."
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18:42 <Cepheid> One more to go in this area
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18:52 <LunaticHell> goooooooooooooooooooood morning, equestria
18:52 * LunaticHell hugs SunsetShimmer
18:53 <LunaticHell> Guess who has two thum- *ahem* hooves an....*ahem* guess who has four hooves and is drinking tonight?
18:53 <Ali> Are they all left hooves?
18:54 <Cepheid> Onto area 4.
18:54 <LunaticHell> If you've seen me dancing, you'd state this as matter o' fact.
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18:56 * Schism rolls over to LunaticHell and offers a hot mixture of strong tea, lemonade, and vanilla rum with a cinnamon stick in it.
18:56 * LunaticHell snuggles Schism and accepts the gift graciously
18:56 <Cepheid> ... Large area for just one metroid needed.
18:57 <LunaticHell> oh hi ceraphim
18:57 * Schism also places a plush Surreal_Nightmares atop LunaticHell's head. "Cepheid: Sounds like a rather impressive boss will be there."
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18:57 <Cepheid> Sounds like it.
18:58 <LunaticHell> huh
18:58 <Schism> Cepheid's playing Metroid 2. Wait, no, AM2R. Wait, no, it's Metroid: Samus Returns.
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19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Pony Karaoke Online Game - Ponytone [ http://tinyurl.com/y732bcjp ]
19:02 <Cepheid> :P
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19:02 <Cepheid> Also, looking at the old map..
19:02 <Cepheid> Area 4 in Samus Returns and Area 4 in Metroid 2 are very different.
19:06 <Cepheid> *Item Get Theme plays* SPAZER BEAM!
19:07 <Cepheid> Alas, like other games outside of Super Metroid, equipping/unequipping beams is not possible. Sad.
19:07 <Schism> That is unfortunate! AM2R allows it.
19:08 * Filly_Nightmares floofsplodes!
19:08 * Filly_Nightmares does plushie!
19:09 <Cepheid> Hum. If the map is correct, the metroid is below me, but..
19:09 <Cepheid> I can't reach it?
19:12 <Cepheid> Hum, item I can't reach without an upgrade, but I *COULD* potentially bomb jump my way to it..
19:13 <Cepheid> Dangit, almost had it that time.
19:14 <SunsetShimmer> I get the feeling you're still a little bent out of shape over AM2R, Schism. :P
19:14 <SunsetShimmer> just a hunch
19:14 <Cepheid> Whee, made it.
19:15 <Cepheid> I'm inclined to agree with SunsetShimmer.
19:15 <SunsetShimmer> Yes, it's unfortunate that it got the boot...but that IS the risk of high profile fangames.
19:15 * SunsetShimmer shrugs
19:15 <Schism> Eh, I can't really deny the obvious.
19:16 <SunsetShimmer> It's really not worth the grudge, honestly
19:16 <Cepheid> There's a reason why I stopped working on anything pony-themed. Even if fangames are "fine" in a sense.
19:17 <SunsetShimmer> the moment you start tangling with something that high in nintendos echelon of game IP's, you're playing a fine game of cat and mouse
19:17 <Schism> Oh, I'm not really that upset, it's more of a low-level frustration.
19:17 <SunsetShimmer> well, it is what it is.
19:18 <SunsetShimmer> and until Nintendos japanese board of businessmen in suits changes their perspective, it's gonna be that way.
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19:19 <Cepheid> High in any company's echelon. Nintendo's most well-known, but I'm pretty sure a number of other companies would do the same if fan stuff appeared of their high-end content.
19:20 <SunsetShimmer> Well, Sega and capcom actually embraced fan efforts.
19:20 <SunsetShimmer> People were kinda hoping nintendo would follow suit
19:20 <SunsetShimmer> Capcom even going so far to pull a sonic mania of its own with Megaman x Streetfighter, I believe
19:21 <Cepheid> They may one day, but that day won't be until some of the higher ups in the company, specifically the older ones, either die, or learn to adapt to a changing economy.
19:22 <Cepheid> In any case, I kind of have to side with Nintendo somewhat. There is a legitimate concern over people monetizing things they shouldn't be.
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19:23 <Cepheid> Off the top of my head, monetizing LPs of games, for example.
19:23 <Cepheid> It is, as that one developer recently stated, only allowed because the developers put up with it.
19:24 <SunsetShimmer> nobody wants to set the precedent, that's for sure
19:26 <Cepheid> As I've stated in the past, I see monetizing LPs as making money off of someone else' work.
19:26 <SunsetShimmer> Eh, I disagree but that is life.
19:26 <Cepheid> How so?
19:27 <SunsetShimmer> I'm saying that so not to get into the discussion
19:27 <SunsetShimmer> just stating my own view. :P
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19:27 <SunsetShimmer> neither of us wanna go down that road today, lol
19:27 <Cepheid> If I, a developer, put time and effort into making something that I want to sell, and then someone tries to make money off of LPing it without my permission, that is a violation of my copyright on the product.
19:27 <Cepheid> I am using the legal road, myself.
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19:28 <SunsetShimmer> I'm free to disagree on that simply because of the fair use element - but I don't have a dog in this fight.
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19:28 <Cepheid> I'm pretty sure fair usage laws don't allow for monetizing. *Goes to read*
19:29 * SunsetShimmer shrugs - agrees to disagree and moves on.
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19:29 <Schism> Gotta remember too that laws differ enormously by country.
19:31 <Schism> For example, in the UK a few years back, it was noted that anything which is printed and defamatory, even if it's completely true, is libel.
19:31 <Cepheid> One could argue the advertisement is fair, and that increased sales are a fair deal, but as a recent case demonstrates, some developers are not keen to associate themselves with people who have particular views.
19:31 <Cepheid> At which point, it is the developer's right to rescind that individual's rights to LP.
19:31 <Cepheid> As even though sure, they are getting increased sales, allowing that individual to continue on, without making a statement on it, is often implied as the developer agreeing with said individual.
19:32 <SunsetShimmer> either way, I don't think the idea of the LP is in itself harmful.
19:32 <Cepheid> As it is, that particular individual I mention, I would rescind any right for him or her to LP any game I ever finished.
19:32 <Cepheid> Unfortunately this would probably gain me negative press.
19:33 <SunsetShimmer> Oh you'd be quite easily ostracised as a developer for that
19:33 <Cepheid> Because "FREEDOM OF SPEECH!" ... At which point I'd just point to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, regarding discrimination and how freedom of speech works with it.
19:33 <SunsetShimmer> aaaaand then your product would be pirated to all heck.
19:33 <Cepheid> And thus we get into an even more controversial topic. DRM.
19:34 <SunsetShimmer> turns out that positive press gets you more buys.
19:34 <Schism> It'd be a tangle, basically.
19:34 <Cepheid> Except that positive press can be marred by the political, personal, and moral views of individuals.
19:34 <SunsetShimmer> DRM, however, gets you the sonic mania red thumbs down
19:34 <Cepheid> And right now, it's a tricky field.
19:34 <Cepheid> I don't want to be associated with someone who, despite previous claims that they'd stop uttering racial slurs, continues to do so.
19:34 <SunsetShimmer> Oh genuine players would know who to rely on
19:35 <SunsetShimmer> Eh, Pewds is an idiot regardless
19:35 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, by freely allowing that individual to play the game, without concern for their actions, is also seem by the players as agreeing with their views.
19:35 <Cepheid> So damned if you do, damned if you don't.
19:35 <Cepheid> Developers have no rights.
19:36 <Schism> You could push that to speak of all content creators.
19:36 <Cepheid> It's an unfair situation, really.
19:37 <Schism> Poor DEC. Forever their line of fantastic minicomputers will be associated with a white supremacist.
19:37 <Cepheid> But the simplest solution is often the best. Stick to what you believe in. Sure, there will be people who pirate your game because they think you're an *YAY*, but there are those who also purchase it because they agree with you, and then those who don't care.
19:38 <Cepheid> Besides. As I said, damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you don't speak out against someone you don't agree with LPing your game, you're gonna lose people anyways.
19:38 <Cepheid> People are *YAY*holes.
19:39 <Schism> There is actually a legitimate case for straddling in this regard. "We have been contacted by several groups and must state that we do not condone, under any circumstance, the statements made by a prominent Youtube celebrity. But we will not issue a DMCA takedown request because that's also wrong. In the meantime, here are some other Youtube channels and Let's Plays you might like!"
19:40 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, based on news and media, it doesn't work.
19:40 <Schism> I know, I just wish it did.
19:40 <Cepheid> The developer behind the recent commentary has been review-bombed as a result of their comments.
19:41 <Cepheid> Therefore, again, content creators, be they developers, TV show creators, etc? We don't have any rights if we're small-time.
19:42 <Schism> Those poor reviewers, so terribly, terribly upset that their insistance that certain people are impure or subhuman is not accepted by society.
19:42 <Cepheid> Ubisoft, EA, the like, they keep using DRM because they can get away with it. If any new indie developers tried, they'd disappear.
19:42 <Cepheid> ... I do believe that this is the most stable I've been having a conversation about something controversial.
19:42 <Cepheid> What the hell did I drink today?
19:42 <Schism> Their other flaws notwithstanding, I still like how Game Dev Tycoon's folks handled that.
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19:43 <Cepheid> Right, it gets harder and you go bankrupt eventually or something, right?
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19:43 <Schism> Yup, with a statement saying that piracy is killing the studio.
19:43 <SunsetShimmer> ^
19:44 <Cepheid> Heh.
19:44 <Cepheid> Hum, walk into an area. I hear a loud roar and shaking. o3o
19:44 <Schism> Also, I think it's pretty important to remember that Steam, at its most basic, is DRM actualized.
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19:44 <Cepheid> Yes and no.
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19:45 <Cepheid> It seems to depend on whether integration with steam exists.
19:45 <SunsetShimmer> It's certainly not a guaranteed DRM in and of itself
19:45 <Cepheid> I've seen a number of modern games that don't require Steam be running in order to play them.
19:45 <SunsetShimmer> I can, for example, play all 4 FNAFS without logging into steam
19:45 <Cepheid> Aye.
19:45 <Cepheid> Plus you can force many games to run without Steam through command-line options.
19:45 <Schism> Oh, and I can definitely play more than a few games without having Steam active. Offline mode, and all that. But it is still a licensing system.
19:46 <Cepheid> It seems the deciding factor on if it's DRM or not is whether the game is embedded with Steam API stuff.
19:46 <Cepheid> Which is often the case when you implement features like "Join <X> on server" or SteamWorks multiplayer.
19:46 <Schism> As a distribution system, it's certainly more lenient than anything EA, Ubisoft or the like have ever come up with, and for that I do applaud them. But it was initially conceived as a DRM, distribution and patching solution.
19:46 <SunsetShimmer> obviously the higher the games dev status, the more likely it will be DRM'd
19:46 <Cepheid> The actual Steam in-game UI does not require steam integration.
19:47 <Schism> It's just an overlay and a piece of software telling people, "Hey, I'm playing X game".
19:47 <Cepheid> Yeah. It's like throwing a DX9, 10, 11, or 12 DLL into the game's execution directory and starting up the game.
19:47 <Cepheid> It places itself between D3D/OpenGL and the game.
19:48 <Schism> Cepheid: By the way, the counterpoint to the review bombs is actually best seen when looking at Game Dev Tycoon, which somehow has a 10/10 on Steam and is one of the most highly-rated games thereupon.
19:48 <Cepheid> It forwards receives D3D/OpenGL commands from the game, forwards them, and after a certain command has been executed, it interrupts that command, adds a few bits more of rendering, then executes the command stream.
19:48 <Schism> Good it may be, but I have a sneaking suspicion that this score may not be entirely earned.
19:49 <Cepheid> Schism: A good way to avoid review bombs is to use an old approach of gaming.
19:49 * Finwe noms on Filly_Nightmares's tail.
19:49 <Cepheid> Shareware/Demos.
19:49 <Cepheid> Good ones, at that.
19:49 <Schism> The funny thing is that's pretty much what Game Dev Tycoon's developers did. The snarky piracy message aside, what they released was pretty much a full-featured demo.
19:50 <Cepheid> A lot of games these days don't give that, and people are afraid to spend $20, $30, $40, $80 or more on a game only to find out it's trash.
19:50 <Cepheid> Or that it doesn't run on their system well.
19:50 * Schism peers with some asperity at DOOM 3.
19:50 <Schism> You do get the flip side, where the demo contains only the most positive features of the game.
19:50 <Cepheid> The demo allows them to try out the game first, and if it's a sufficiently large demo(Say, 20% of the game, as Spiderweb Software apparently did with the Exile games), it'll allow players to not only see that it runs, but get hooked on the story.
19:51 <Cepheid> Yeah, that did hurt Exile 2, in the example I gave.
19:51 <Cepheid> Apparently Exile 2's demo contained a lot of content to appeal to the player, but the full game itself, the content became more and more sparse.
19:51 <Schism> Oh yeah, Spiderweb Software are a great publisher. Even if they did kinda shoot themselves in the foot there.
19:51 <Schism> Developer, not publisher. Bleh.
19:52 <Cepheid> ...
19:52 <Cepheid> And they managed to use the SM boss theme.
19:52 * Schism provides full marks to Nintendo on that, at least.
19:52 <Schism> And to use an older example, ID Software kinda did that too, with everyone knowing exactly what the first episode of DOOM looks like, but nobody remembering more than the basics of the latter ones.
19:53 <Cepheid> Dang. And the area they use it in isn't exactly easy, either.
19:53 <Schism> Why would it be?
19:54 <Schism> Also: Cepheid, you've certainly played Commander Keen 4 many a time. Remember anything interesting about Commander Keen 5?
19:54 <Finwe> !lullaby
19:54 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed
19:54 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby
19:54 <Cepheid> I have not.
19:54 <Schism> Wait, you've not played CK4?
19:54 <Finwe> Good night, everypony.
19:54 <Schism> Rest well, Finwe!
19:55 * Finwe hits the proverbial hay.
19:55 <Cepheid> I have not. None of them, in fact.
19:55 <Cepheid> They weren't my style of game back then.
19:56 * Ali remembers Commander Keen
19:57 <Schism> You... should definitely get Commander Keen 4, then, Cepheid. And stream it. Once you're done with Metroid for now, that is.
19:57 <Schism> I want to see you go through the game on Hard, blind.
19:58 <Cepheid> Geezus game..
19:58 <Cepheid> Advancing wall of doom.
19:59 <Schism> ...yeeeees... surely no Metroid game you've ever played before has anything like that.
19:59 <Cepheid> Closest thing to it was Crocomire in Super Metroid as far as I remember. I think there was one in Fusion as well, but I can't recall.
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20:01 <Cepheid> Oh Nintendo, you magnificent [REDACTED]s.
20:01 <Schism> Huh. Oh well then. I'm surprised then that you weren't expecting a Wall of Advancing Doom to show up at some point.
20:02 <Cepheid> The path back had a lot of stuff I left behind for obvious reasons.
20:02 <Schism> And now it's closed.
20:02 <Cepheid> The path back after the whole scenario? Closed off by Super Missiles.
20:02 <Schism> You might be able to get back there the hard way, but yeow.
20:03 <Schism> Oh wait. Do you have Super Missiles yet?
20:03 <Cepheid> Nope.
20:03 <Cepheid> That's the problem.
20:03 <Schism> Oh. Then you'll get them in about a minute.
20:03 <Cepheid> I've looked around. Every path back is blocked off. Only one way to go.
20:03 <Cepheid> Hard to say.
20:03 <Schism> Well, I'm guessing.
20:03 <Cepheid> I've seen blocks of all kinds earlier.
20:03 <Cepheid> Super Missile, Speed Booster, Screw Attack.
20:04 <Cepheid> Plus some I can't identify.
20:04 <Schism> Yeah, but none of them really shut you off from getting back where you came from, right?
20:04 <Cepheid> Nope.
20:04 <Cepheid> Some block off areas of the map in general, or access to visible items.
20:04 <Schism> Yeah, super missiles shortly. Probably in the hands of a Chozo statue.
20:04 <Cepheid> Rather than getting maps from a station this time around...
20:04 <Cepheid> You get a scanner ability.
20:05 <Schism> ... AM2R was obviously a lot closer to the real thing than Nintendo actually expected.
20:05 <Cepheid> It uses a special kind of energy, but if you use it, it maps out like a 11x11 chunk of the map.
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20:05 <Schism> Not so much there tho.
20:05 <Schism> Hm, neat.
20:05 <Cepheid> It doesn't tell you what's THERE though.
20:05 <Schism> Until you actually grab it, of course.
20:05 <Cepheid> Just that there's an item, and maybe a hot area. No doors. Nothing else.
20:06 <Schism> At least it gives you an idea when you're coming close to a Metroid.
20:06 <Schism> Even if the jellyfish flee at the sight of you.
20:06 <Cepheid> Yeah, that scanner is there as well.
20:07 <Cepheid> A little icon on the bottom screen that blinks as you get close.
20:07 <Cepheid> That said, the DS/3DS is the perfect platform for a Metroid, to be honest.
20:07 <Cepheid> The map on the lower screen, larger than a 3x3 area, is NICE.
20:07 <Schism> Much like it is for Etrian Odyssey.
20:07 <SunsetShimmer> can't wait for the marketing to start on prime 4
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20:09 <Cepheid> I am admittedly very curious as to how it's going to work.
20:09 <Cepheid> Ooop, BRB. Battery is getting low.
20:09 * Schism feeds Cepheid some fooood.
20:09 <Schism> Oh wait, actual battery.
20:11 <Cepheid> I actually keep forgetting I have the Wave Beam.
20:11 <Cepheid> And can shoot through floors and walls.
20:11 * Filly_Nightmares chews on Schism and SunsetShimmer
20:12 <Schism> Cepheid: Can you stack beams now?
20:12 <Filly_Nightmares> o4o
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20:13 <Cepheid> Do you mean like, applying Charge, Wave and Spazer together?
20:13 <Cepheid> It does that automatically, yes.
20:13 <Cepheid> The Ice Beam is separate.
20:13 <Schism> Something like that... ah, good. o3o
20:14 <Cepheid> So while you can't equip or unequip beams individually, they do have the intended effect when combined.
20:14 <Cepheid> You were off by about 11 minutes.
20:15 <Schism> You were also talking here instead of just playing the game.
20:15 <Cepheid> Hmm?
20:15 <Schism> I bet you'd have been able to find the Super Missiles in just a minute or two if I weren't here, distracting you!
20:16 <Cepheid> Would have been 5 minutes then, yes.
20:16 <Schism> Were they, as I suspected, in the hands of a Chozo Statue?
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20:17 <Cepheid> Would you expect any less?
20:17 <Schism> Of course not, but sometimes...
20:18 <Cepheid> At least they're handled similarly to Super Metroid.
20:19 <Cepheid> Separate item altogether, no need to spend 5 or 10 regular missiles.
20:19 <Cepheid> I wonder if the Crystal Flash exists.
20:19 <Schism> Curse and boon both, that, when you're fighting a Metroid which can only be beaten via Super Missile spam.
20:20 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:20 <Cepheid> I wonder what sequence breakers exist.
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20:21 <Cepheid> I've already sequence broke a bit in regards to getting certain collectibles earlier than intended, using the bomb jump.
20:21 <Schism> Probably a lot, even disregarding the lava, boulders and gene doors strewn about.
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20:22 <Schism> One thing Nintendo has done fantastically right is, in the Metroid series, keep that opportunity for sequence-breaking open.
20:22 <Cepheid> Indeed. The gene doors open up paths in purple lava that, at first, appears to deal slow continual damage.
20:22 <Cepheid> The longer you stay in it, the faster your energy decreases.
20:28 <Schism> Oh. Ohhhhh.
20:28 <Schism> That's not lava. That's Phazon.
20:28 <SunsetShimmer> yep
20:28 <SunsetShimmer> phazon, of course, being a big ol' prevailing element of Met. Prime.
20:28 <Cepheid> Yeah... that would make sense.
20:28 <Cepheid> Metroid Prime is between Metroid 2 and Super Metroid.
20:29 <Cepheid> So making a reference to it here wouldn't be that unexpected.
20:30 <Schism> I'm just amazed I didn't grok that when you first mentioned purple.
20:32 <Cepheid> That's more because last I recalled, Phazon was BLUE.
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20:32 <Schism> No, you're right. Well, damn. There goes a perfectly good explanation, right out the window.
20:32 <Schism> Maybe it's lava mixed with phazon?
20:32 <Cepheid> So it's not Phazon, but it's something else.
20:33 <Cepheid> And given that the area I'm in is covered in purplish crystals..
20:33 <Filly_Nightmares> I wish Metroid was on PC.
20:33 <Filly_Nightmares> :<
20:33 <Schism> It is.
20:33 <Cepheid> It's probably something specific to the depths of the planet.
20:33 <Filly_Nightmares> :o
20:33 <Schism> >.> Filly_Nightmares: Well, kinda is...!
20:33 <roflin> or orange.
20:33 <Filly_Nightmares> Aw
20:33 <Cepheid> Yeah, there was also orange phazon.
20:33 <Cepheid> But much of it was blue.
20:34 <Cepheid> Phaaze being like, the purest source of it all. A planet made of blue phazon.
20:34 <Schism> Cepheid: Oh, I get it. It's Erchius.
20:34 <Schism> Filly_Nightmares, you might want to look up AM2R for another variant of the game Cepheid's playing.
20:35 <Filly_Nightmares> i4i
20:35 <Filly_Nightmares> o4o
20:35 <Filly_Nightmares> Okey
20:36 <Schism> It is of course entirely wrong to download AM2R, as it has been DMCA'd by Nintendo, and I provide this link only for reference purposes.
20:36 <Schism> http://pastebin.com/etxrzy3n
20:36 * Starlight_Glimmer reports Schism to the copyright gods
20:37 <Cepheid> Ow.
20:38 <Schism> Starlight_Glimmer, hey, I covered myself appropriately. Do not do this awesome thing, that's exactly what I said.
20:38 <Schism> If cigarette companies can get away with it...
20:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> Now buy me a Giddyup Buttercup
20:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> I may forget your sins then :3
20:39 <Schism> Sorry, I haven't robbed enough banks yet.
20:39 <Schism> ( https://img01.deviantart.net/f152/i/2012/269/1/a/giddyup_applejack_by_pixelkitties-d5fqmms.png )
20:40 <SunsetShimmer> <Schism> It is of course entirely wrong to download AM2R, as it has been DMCA'd by Nintendo, and I provide this link only for reference purposes. - :P laying it on a bit thick, mango.
20:40 * SunsetShimmer baps Schism! xD
20:40 <Schism> I'm sure I don't know what you're implying.
20:40 * Schism coughs.
20:40 <SunsetShimmer> Nooo, of course. :P
20:41 <Schism> "Ye've got... th' SHINNING?" "Don't you mean the shini--" "SHH, ya wanna get sued?!"
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20:42 <Cepheid> The problem is, once a thing is on the Internet, trying to scrub the Internet of it is like trying to scrub one's eyes of what they just saw without going blind.
20:42 <Schism> You can't re-can those worms.
20:43 <SunsetShimmer> Even fils ami has to know that, lol
20:44 <SunsetShimmer> he's a bright enough guy, can't be entirely blind to it
20:44 <Cepheid> At this point, they, at most, discouraged concentrated work on the project.
20:44 <Cepheid> I guarantee even the source code is probably still alive somewhere out there.
20:45 <SunsetShimmer> feeding on occasional casual updates like a metroid feeding from samus
20:45 <SunsetShimmer> shluuuurp
20:45 <Cepheid> Perhaps not on the net, but sitting on a CD or two, and a few USB keys, and maybe an SD card.
20:45 <Schism> Now, now. Samus fed that Metroid... with love.
20:45 <Cepheid> No developer worth their salt would destroy it all.
20:45 <Cepheid> Because we've seen what happens when we do.
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20:46 <Schism> I halfway expect that there was a GitHub upload along with the actual game, which was quietly removed once enough people had downloaded it.
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20:47 <Schism> Though the game was produced in GameMaker, so possibly not.
20:48 <Cepheid> The best Nintendo can do at this point, is simply file a lawsuit against the entire development team, if the source code is released publically. But given there are parts of the Internet that not even lawyers are privvy to, it's likely to exist there for their safety.
20:48 <Schism> There is also the fact that the development team exists in several countries at once.
20:50 <Schism> Milton Guasti, for example, the project lead, is or at least was in Argentina.
20:50 <Cepheid> And I'm sorry, but a company demanding that multiple countries extradite a few people just so they can charge them in Japan or the US seems excessive for a game.
20:50 <Cepheid> If it were an encryption algorithm meant to be kept secret, yeah, I can see that.
20:50 <Cepheid> But a game which isn't making anyone money? Seems excessive.
20:51 <Cepheid> Hum, yellow blocks that I can't destroy. Likely super bomb. Seen a lot of those around.
20:51 <SunsetShimmer> Nintendos board of directors in Japan are kinda...behind the times with how things are.
20:51 <SunsetShimmer> pretty sure they're the driving force here
20:51 <Schism> I'm almost certain that the development team decided to be polite and reasonable because Nintendo issued the DMCA after the release, and little else is likely to happen after 1.1. Also!.
20:52 <Schism> Milton Guasti has now been tapped for the sequel to Ori and the Blind Forest.
20:52 <Schism> Which, I guess, makes this a happy ending all around.
20:52 <Cepheid> Hum, now that I got super missiles, I should go get those items I saw.
20:55 <Schism> Cepheid: ... I'm mildly annoyed at one bit of information regarding Samus Returns.
20:55 <Cepheid> Oh?
20:55 <Schism> A separate game mode can only be unlocked with the Samus Amiibo.
20:55 <Cepheid> So I heard, yeah.
20:55 <Cepheid> I suspect that's gonna change very fast.
20:56 <Schism> I dunno, they're kinda screwed either way at this point.
20:56 <SunsetShimmer> Nintendo are a stubborn and stupid lot
20:56 <SunsetShimmer> even at their best
20:57 <Cepheid> Thankfully A) I have a modded 3DS, and B) I uh, may have ordered the Samus Aran & Metroid Amiibo pack. >.>
20:57 <SunsetShimmer> To be fair though...it's metroid merch.
20:57 <SunsetShimmer> Not a whole lot of that around
20:57 <Schism> Cepheid: Well, at least you'll possibly be getting your money's worth.
20:58 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
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20:58 <SunsetShimmer> I'll eventually get the metroid amiibo and the goomba for odyssey - I don't HAVE a switch, but I love goombas and metroids. x3
20:58 <Cepheid> And I am a huge fan of metroid. I'd have gone for the special edition of Samus Returns, but it only includes an audio CD. And to be frank.. *Looks at Youtube*
20:58 * Schism scribbles an 'a' on a piece of paper and attaches it to Jahnest with a thumbtack.
20:58 <SunsetShimmer> I'll pick up samus returns eventually
20:58 <Cepheid> I'll try to avoid spoiling it.
20:59 <Jahnest> Schism What gives??
20:59 <Schism> You're missing your 'a'. I decided to correct that.
20:59 <Jahnest> Oh
20:59 <Cepheid> Really, the biggest concern I have?
20:59 <Jahnest> I got it!
20:59 <Jahnest> x3
20:59 <Cepheid> Addition of a "Continue" option that places you near or before where you died.
20:59 <Cepheid> But I get the impression Metroid 2 may have had that, as well.
20:59 <Schism> Yeah, what's the point of save points in that case? >.> Metroid 2 probably had it because it was on the GB...
21:00 * Jahnest Takes of the A (Ouch!) and glues it to his name
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21:00 <Cepheid> As far as I know...
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21:00 <Cepheid> If you die anywhere, you'll respawn at the last save point you used. If you die at a boss, it's the door right before.
21:00 <Cepheid> That said, it's balanced out a bit.
21:00 <Cepheid> You literally restart with exactly what you had prior to going in.
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21:01 <Schism> That is how checkpoints should work, yes.
21:01 <Cepheid> Energy, missiles, super missiles. Any items you had. All the same as just before you go in.
21:01 <Cepheid> Rather than the approach I've seen in other games where everything's restored or set to 50% or something.
21:02 <Schism> Meanwhile, if you go up against Dahlia Gillespie with no ammo, she implodes.
21:02 <SunsetShimmer> Silent Hill indeed
21:03 <Cepheid> On the other hand too..
21:03 <Cepheid> This game is bloody hard.
21:03 <Schism> Metroid, at least, has no shortage of enemies and mooks who will drop ammo and health.
21:03 <Cepheid> The damage enemies deal to you is excessive. Like playing a Metroid game on hard.
21:05 <Cepheid> I've lost track of how many times I've died at around 30.
21:06 <Schism> That is pretty spectacular. Bet when you get the next suit, that damage'll be halved, tho.
21:06 <Cepheid> I died a lot at the standard suit. I eventually got the Varia Suit. I still kept dying at a pretty high pace.
21:07 <Schism> As you might kinda expect...
21:07 <Cepheid> People going in expecting a walk in the park similar to Super Metroid is these days are not going to have a good time.
21:07 <SunsetShimmer> to be fair, Super Metroid is only 'easy' to those who grew up with it
21:07 <SunsetShimmer> not everyone can get along with the game so easily
21:08 <Cepheid> Even when I first played it, I didn't do as badly as I am in Samus Returns.
21:08 <Cepheid> Nowadays I could probably complete it in a 2-3 hour sitting, I admit, but yeah.
21:09 <Schism> It takes a lot to master the idiosyncracies of a given game, especially when it's one so full of hidden tricks as most of the Metroid series.
21:10 <Schism> You know, Cepheid, I might boop you with Commander Keen 4 until you actually play it.
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21:11 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:11 <Cepheid> That said, I could make things a bit easier on myself.
21:11 <Cepheid> I got the Spazer Beam and Super Missiles. That opens a bit, now.
21:12 <Cepheid> In fact, given I'm going deeper in a bit, I think it may be worthwhile to backtrack a bit.
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21:20 <Cepheid> I hope they did something similar to Metroid Fusion. Get 100%, final boss gets harder.
21:24 <Cepheid> I need food.
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21:31 <Cepheid> If there's one good thing about living in Canada..
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21:31 <Cepheid> It's that finding stock of hard-to-find things is a bit easier. Not as much population to contend with, local to the country.
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21:42 <Cepheid> If it wasn't so bloody warm, and I had clean clothes(All in the dryer at the moment), I'd go out to Five Guys and get a burger or two. Instead, I think I'll just whip something up here.
21:43 <Jahnesta> What are you making?
21:43 <Cepheid> I'm thinking soup and kraft dinner will satiate my hunger sufficiently.
21:44 <Jahnesta> :P
21:44 <Cepheid> There isn't much in the house that I can prepare.
21:45 <Cepheid> I mean, I guess I could take a shower, get changed into decent clothing, then order out or something, but yeah/
21:45 <Jahnesta> Lazy? x3
21:45 <Cepheid> More like I've spent enough money today.
21:46 <Jahnesta> :p
21:52 <Cepheid> https://kotaku.com/the-iris-cutscene-from-mega-man-x4-is-somehow-even-bett-1818477000
21:56 <Cepheid> Aaand after doing a bit of research I see I got ripped off on that order. Oh well, also based on research, amiibos simply do not exist in Ottawa.
21:58 <Cepheid> Which is itself unusual, as I've been able to find stock of particularly rare items elsewhere. Guess it depends on current collectibility.
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22:01 <Cepheid> Hum. Google's hosting some sort of coding event at my university.
22:01 <Cepheid> I should go. Pester Google Engineers about who to talk to for co-op employment.
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22:03 <Jahnesta> :0
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22:08 <Cepheid> ...
22:09 <Cepheid> Oh dear sweet heavens, Schism, kill me now.
22:09 <Cepheid> There's a kid outside with a horn, and she's using it repeatedly.
22:09 <Ali> I would Cepheid but I think that command kicks
22:09 <Cepheid> >.> Part of me wants to give the kid an airhorn, and tell her to go back home and use it inside.
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22:09 <Cepheid> In front of her parents.
22:09 * Ali brushies Cepheid instead
22:09 <Cepheid> Heh.
22:10 * Cepheid purrs.
22:10 * Ali then sneaks off with the kittehs cause unicorn misses kittehtime
22:10 <Cepheid> Best idea: Give the kid an airhorn, tell her explicitly not to use it until she gets home, and to use it while standing behind her parents.
22:10 <Ali> Snerk
22:11 <Cepheid> Speakin' o' kitties, I ungrounded Spitfire. I can't stay mad at him forever.
22:11 <Ali> You softy~
22:11 <Cepheid> I however, am going to get a bedside drawer or something to use instead of a table with 3 legs.
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22:13 <Cepheid> For the moment, my filing cabinet will go in it's place.
22:13 <Cepheid> It's a short one, so it won't be too high above the bed.
22:19 <Cepheid> So, Phoronix posted an article about a Linux driver having been developed for PWM-controlled vibrators.
22:19 <Cepheid> You know, those little motors in your smartphones that cause it to vibrate when it's silenced.
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22:29 <SunsetShimmer> that seems like an odd thing for a discussion, lol
22:35 <Cepheid> I'll be honest, I was trying to bait one of you with the wording of the article title. :P
22:36 <Jahnesta> X3
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22:47 <Cepheid> Hum. 24 items in this area.
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22:55 <Cepheid> ...
22:55 <Cepheid> Dammit, Samus Returns, I did NOT want to hear that theme.
22:57 <Jahnesta> Stuuck in your head now? :P
22:57 <Jahnesta> Stuck
22:57 <Cepheid> More I hate the area associated with the music.
22:57 <Cepheid> The background music is a remix of the background music for Meridia's underwater sections from Super Metroid.
22:57 <Cepheid> I *HATE* Meridia.
22:57 <Jahnesta> x3
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23:08 <Jahnesta> o3o
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23:29 <Gladiolus> the gladi
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23:33 <Gladiolus> It has been too long!
23:33 <Librarian> owo
23:33 <Cepheid> You're still alive? I thought the wildfires of Alberta got you.
23:33 <Librarian> where have you been?
23:33 *** TimidTanuki|Work is now known as TimidTanuki|Gamez
23:33 <Gladiolus> I have been around and busy
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23:52 <Librarian> writing time is done, game time owo
23:52 <Librarian> see ya
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