Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Saturday, 2017-09-30

00:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Movie to Hit 2500 Theaters on USA Opening Day [ http://tinyurl.com/y7rrjucl ]

00:07 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Schism's cheeks and floofs them!

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00:24 * rhg135 sighs

00:25 <rhg135> Why is live so hard?

00:33 <Tirek> Because money.

00:34 <rhg135> Life was hard before money

00:44 * Filly_Nightmares floofs

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00:44 * rhg135 pets the Filly_Nightmares

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00:52 <Devil_Hunter> Hello friends! I'm here for no reason! Boy, I haven't said that in a while!

00:54 * rhg135 shrugs and waves

00:54 <Devil_Hunter> Something wrong? Or are you just tired?

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00:56 <rhg135> Both

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00:57 <Devil_Hunter> Ah, okay. Did you enjoy petting that floofy Filly_Nightmare?

00:59 <rhg135> My imagination did

01:00 <Devil_Hunter> And now, let's take a moment and thank Faust that I didn't make a Spongebob reference.

01:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Facebook Stickers Now Available [ http://tinyurl.com/ycf9xluo ]

01:01 * rhg135 looks for the joke there and goes oh

01:03 <Devil_Hunter> So, mister rhg135, is there a certain classic mlp villain that you'd like to see return?

01:05 <Devil_Hunter> I personally wouldn't mind seeing "Crunch the Rock Dog" make his way to the modern show, for example.

01:05 <rhg135> I never did watch pre-g4

01:07 <Devil_Hunter> Heh. Not many people have. I took the liberty watching some old G1 episodes. Crunch was, obviously, one of the older villains.

01:08 <Devil_Hunter> He "hates soft and squishy" and wants things the way he likes them: hard and rough. Thus, he turns whatever or whoever he touches into stone.

01:10 <rhg135> Sounds very villainous

01:12 <Devil_Hunter> I'll tell you this. He's not nearly as great a villain as Tirek. Oh yeah, Tirek was originally a G1 villain.

01:12 <rhg135> That I knew

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01:13 <Devil_Hunter> Hey there, Sunset!

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01:14 <Devil_Hunter> Never mind.

01:15 <Devil_Hunter> So, do you ever play Pony Town?

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01:18 <rhg135> Howdy Jahnesta

01:18 <rhg135> No, Devil_Hunter

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01:18 <rhg135> But it looks cool

01:20 <Devil_Hunter> Well, I'm gonna go. Sayonara!

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01:20 <rhg135> Tchau

01:21 <Tirek> I've been pinged.

01:22 <Jahnesta> Hey

01:23 <Jahnesta> Brb

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01:28 <Librarian> i convinced a cute girl i meet to send me a photo of her face tp draw it

01:28 <Librarian> owo

01:28 <Librarian> im damn good at convincing people

01:29 <rhg135> Dun dun dun

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01:30 <Jahnesta> Librarian Ohh

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01:31 * rhg135 flop dives onto Jahnesta

01:32 * Jahnesta Gets squeezed oWo

01:32 <Jahnesta> :0

01:32 <Jahnesta> How is it rhg123?

01:32 <Jahnesta> rhg123

01:33 <Jahnesta> rhg135

01:33 <Jahnesta> x3

01:33 <rhg135> Third time's the charm

01:33 <Jahnesta> How is you?

01:34 <rhg135> Eh, it's ok now

01:34 <Jahnesta> Ok

01:34 <Jahnesta> ?

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01:34 <Jahnesta> Could be better I hear

01:34 <rhg135> Yup

01:35 <rhg135> But alas I don't get it

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01:36 <Librarian> im hungry

01:36 <Librarian> owo

01:36 <rhg135> An hour ago I was rather down in the dumps and now I can't imagine why

01:36 <Jahnesta> Hmm

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01:37 <Jahnesta> For no specific reason?

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01:38 <rhg135> Well, I was upset about something but now it seems small

01:39 <Librarian> i have to finish work stuff

01:39 <Librarian> i dont wanna

01:39 * Librarian throws a tantrum

01:40 * rhg135 offers ice cream

01:40 <Jahnesta> rhg135 That's cool

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01:42 <rhg135> I guess

01:43 <Jahnesta> Better then the other way around

01:43 <Jahnesta> ;)

01:44 <rhg135> I guess

01:46 <Jahnesta> You're not quite sure of things, are you? o3o

01:47 <rhg135> Never am

01:49 <Jahnesta> But your oki now, and that's what counts, right? :3

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01:49 <rhg135> I was

01:49 * rhg135 sighs again

01:50 <Jahnesta> Wow, now you're sad again?

01:50 <Jahnesta> :(

01:50 <Jahnesta> PinkieShy Hey

01:50 <PinkieShy> I'm starting to dislike the usa more and more :/ and i was born in this country

01:51 <rhg135> PinkieShy: me too, but why though

01:51 <PinkieShy> "Feds demand Facebook share info on anti-Trump protesters" <- saw that on MSN.

01:51 <Jahnesta> :/

01:51 <rhg135> Oh

01:55 <Librarian> im hungryyyyy

01:55 <Librarian> food is requiered

01:55 <Librarian> feed me seymour

01:55 <Jahnesta> What's that?

01:56 * PinkieShy tells DerpyBot to feed Librarian hay and sunflower seeds

01:58 <rhg135> Maybe hay fries

01:58 <Jahnesta> Yuck

01:58 <Jahnesta> :P

02:00 <rhg135> Ponies eat what ponies eat

02:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1214 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8uyptg2 ]

02:01 <Jahnesta> They are vegetarians I know

02:01 <Jahnesta> :P

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02:01 <Librarian> i a book

02:01 <Librarian> i eat words

02:01 <Jahnesta> But so is my dad, and I don't see him eating a hay burger any time soon

02:01 <Jahnesta> What kinda words?

02:03 <Librarian> all of em

02:04 * rhg135 feeds Librarian a 'word'

02:04 <Jahnesta> So that's why you're on a chat!

02:05 <Jahnesta> It's like a all you can eat restaurant XD

02:05 <rhg135> You'd think

02:06 <Jahnesta> That sentence is soo weird if you would be to log in now oWo

02:07 <rhg135> Huh

02:08 <Librarian> owo indeed

02:09 <Jahnesta> rhg135 If you wouldn't have followed the conversation (what was weird by itself) you would just be like o.o

02:10 <rhg135> Eh, I've Seen Worse

02:11 * PinkieShy wishes he lived in Canada or Scotland

02:11 * Snapai streaming work on commissioned telegram stickers. https://picarto.tv/snapai

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02:12 <rhg135> I'm too apathetic to care about politics

02:23 <Jahnesta> I think I'm going to try get some sleep

02:23 <rhg135> Sleep tight man

02:23 <Jahnesta> It's 04:17 here

02:23 <Jahnesta> :P

02:24 <Jahnesta> Good night rhg135

02:24 <Jahnesta> And everyone else!

02:24 <Jahnesta> :3

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02:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

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02:38 <rhg135> Hello Ali

02:38 * Ali wavies

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02:39 <Thelema5> Hello everypony

02:39 <PinkieShy> heh

02:39 <PinkieShy> Just used a 3d minecraft pack on a another texture pack with it

02:39 <PinkieShy> and that thing looked ugly xD

02:39 * rhg135 flops onto Thelema5

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02:48 <Thelema5> Oh, I just remembered that the Making of the My Little Pony Movie is airing tomorrow

02:48 <PinkieShy> o.o

02:48 <PinkieShy> My dog is asleep and barking

02:50 <rhg135> Speaking of, ticket get *squeels*

02:50 <rhg135> Yay!

02:51 <Thelema5> Yay!

02:52 <rhg135> I've also rsvpd with the local group

02:52 <rhg135> It's happening

02:52 * rhg135 jumps around like an excited filly

02:53 <Thelema5> Oh, that's awesome!

02:53 <Thelema5> How many people in the group?

02:53 <Thelema5> (and how did you find them?)

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02:54 <rhg135> 457 which is oddly few

02:54 <Thelema5> Seems like a lot to me

02:54 <rhg135> But then again that's over a large space

02:57 <rhg135> Like so large that there's two meetups

02:57 <Thelema5> Ooh

02:58 <rhg135> Either way, so. Much. Hype

03:00 <Thelema5> Yus.  And they've been releasing so much pre-movie promos and material

03:00 <Thelema5> I can't even keep up!

03:00 <rhg135> I've been avoiding it like the plague

03:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Nicolas Dominique - Fast n' Magical [Synthwave] [ http://tinyurl.com/ycl4yd2q ]

03:01 <Thelema5> Oh gosh, I can't even get enough.

03:01 *** rhg135 is now known as DashedRainbows

03:02 <Thelema5> I watched season 6 blind, avoided every spoiler (to see what it's like) and I realized that I MUCH prefer spoilers over nothing

03:02 <DashedRainbows> Now I just need to buy a few things

03:02 <Thelema5> Pony ears?

03:02 <DashedRainbows> That's one thing

03:02 <Thelema5> :p

03:03 <Thelema5> I was thinking about it too

03:03 <DashedRainbows> A good pony shirt too

03:04 <Thelema5> The last movie I dressed up for in theaters was Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows � Part 2

03:04 <DashedRainbows> Nerd :P

03:05 <Thelema5> Yes?

03:05 * DashedRainbows resumes squealing

03:08 <PinkieShy> What..  :/

03:09 <PinkieShy> one of the candles we had the wax melted above the wick

03:10 <Thelema5> How does that happen?

03:10 <PinkieShy> I have no idea

03:10 <DashedRainbows> I've seen it before and whoa

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03:20 <Thelema5> Pft... a client of my ghostwriting platform is straight up asking for people to straight-out plagiarize his competitor's content

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03:21 <Thelema5> "Please rewrite this article (link) using my company name and website"

03:21 <Thelema5> Uh, no thanks.

03:21 <DashedRainbows> Lol

03:22 <Thelema5> I'm not about to break the law for a measley eight bucks

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03:23 <Thelema5> *measly

03:23 * DashedRainbows nods

03:32 <Thelema5> It's funny how one nerd pursuit leads into another... It was ponies that got me interested in cider, which got me into brewing, which got me into historic brewing, which got me into historical reenactment... I'm now fairly certain that I'll be portraying an early 18th century cider maker in living history events before long

03:36 <Asoka> Thelema5 german politics is in the moment a real good tv show

03:38 <Thelema5> I was scared to see Alternative for Germany win some parliament

03:38 <Thelema5> *seats

03:38 <Thelema5> It's practically like history is repeating itself on a global scale

03:38 <Asoka> Thelema5 they loosed on monday there party leader

03:39 * DashedRainbows wonders why there's even a rule against discussing politics

03:39 <Thelema5> Far-right parties should not have so much support in germany, considering their history

03:39 <Asoka> and some other important people in the staates parlaments oh and the best part is the possibility is high they loosing about 50% of there people XD

03:39 <Asoka> Thelema5 why it is so is complicated

03:40 <Asoka> germany is still splitted in west and east and this is the problem

03:41 <Thelema5> So is the US still split into north and south

03:41 <Asoka> and the other thing is yes they have 92 people in the parlament but te hole is about 700 people big

03:43 <Asoka> is little more difrferent they reuniting was in year 1989 and they needed to bring up the east infrastructure to west standard about 8 years

03:43 <Thelema5> ... there are nazis in german government again.  This is concerning regardless of explainations.

03:43 <Asoka> they haded problems like broken telephone and so

03:44 <Asoka> and it is the third time since 1949 they had forgotten the NPD and DVU

03:44 <Thelema5> The whole world seems to be spiraling out fo control

03:45 <Thelema5> *of

03:45 <Asoka> yes the AFD is spiraling out of control

03:45 * Ali flails at politics

03:45 <Asoka> it seems they are breaking in parts

03:46 * Thelema5 heeds the flailing Ali and shushs

03:46 <Thelema5> Here, have a pony!

03:46 <Thelema5> !link cute

03:46 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/327780?scope=scpe140a1d653e42ee5a8764c07b76af68e9474e7e58

03:46 <DashedRainbows> Ponies!

03:47 <Ali> That's four years old!

03:48 <DashedRainbows> !link rainbow dash

03:48 <DerpyBot> http://derpibooru.org/359842 -  (questionable)

03:48 <DashedRainbows> Eh

03:48 <Asoka> Thelema5 the afd mobs there member how work with there ex leader frauke petry or they are not going in distance

03:50 <Thelema5> Asoka, this is perhaps not the best venue to discuss politics.  Try #equestriandiscourse

03:50 <Asoka> the problem is the afd started not as a far right party but as a center party and drifted other the last 2 years into the right far right

03:50 <Asoka> ok

03:52 <Thelema5> Equestria politics, I suspect, are open game

03:52 <Thelema5> For starters, I suspect Starlight Glimmer has her eye on the throne!

03:52 <Thelema5> (She very well might deserve it!)

03:52 <PinkieShy> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AFHpy0tEYY

03:52 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

03:53 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about So cute!

03:53 <Asoka> but the throne is MINE!!!!!!

03:53 * Thelema5 snerks at PinkieShy's link

03:59 <Thelema5> !seen ianandriod

03:59 <DerpyBot> Thelema5: Sorry, I haven't seen ianandriod lately.

04:00 <Saerydoth> wow, Dolphin is even better with a real gamecube controller

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04:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Bonus Music #88 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8pq9wet ]

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04:07 <Schism> Saerydoth: Fair warning.  Twilight Princess is optimized in a few unconventional ways, and if you get to Hyrule Field in it, Dolphin will slow to a practically unplayable crawl.

04:07 <Schism> Oh wait, they're gone, darnit.

04:08 <Thelema5> Is Cepheid around?

04:09 <Thelema5> That chair he liked at university makes an unexpected cameo apppearance in this video

04:09 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/bP3fnsRzFhQ

04:09 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

04:09 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Penn & Teller Fool Us Javi Benitez - incredible act

04:10 <Thelema5> Odds of me finding that are off the charts

04:18 <Thelema5> Completely off topic- Cheez-Its are freaking delicious

04:18 <Thelema5> Where have they been all my life?

04:19 <Schism> Where have you been, that you've never had them before?

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04:19 <Schism> Add some chili powder to them.  You know you want to.

04:19 <Thelema5> I've seen them around, and saw their ads... but it takes a lot for me to try something new

04:20 <Thelema5> Trying them now... and I'll have to completely rethink my snacking strategy

04:20 <DashedRainbows> Gasp

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04:21 <Thelema5> Oh hi there, Starwatcher.  Feeling any better?

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04:23 <Thelema5> I was worried about you

04:23 <Thelema5> Oh, and Hi, FruitNibbler.

04:24 <Schism> Cholera cases have now been reported in Puerto Rico.  My prayers go to anyone with family and friends there.

04:24 <Thelema5> I'm not surprised considering the failure of the sewer and water systems.  It's a total mess.

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04:25 <Thelema5> Horrible, horrible news coming out of Puerto Rico

04:27 <Thelema5> I only know one woman from there, a friend of my father's lady-friend.  She's awesome and she gave me a great recipe for pigeon peas and rice which I make all the time now

04:27 * Schism nods... "Hope she's alright as can be, under these circumstances."

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04:28 <Thelema5> I think she's okay.  Hell of a recipe, though.  I make it at least once a month

04:31 <Bubble-Berry> You know, I wonder why Pacific Rim is compared to Evangelion all the time

04:31 <Schism> Coconut milk~

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04:32 <Bubble-Berry> Sure, they both have robots fight monsters, and I guess both Jaegers and EVA's are controlled via neural link, but that's it.

04:32 <Schism> Alternately, darnit, now I kinda want some red beans and rice.

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04:32 * Thelema5 goes to watch Kubo and the Two Strings again. Gosh, best movie in a LONG time

04:33 <Schism> Thelema5: A recipe like this one?  https://www.africanbites.com/jamaican-pigeon-peas-and-rice/

04:33 <Bubble-Berry> To me, Pacific Rim is closer to Mazinger Z than Evangelion. ROCKET PUNCH, cockpit in the head, the exhaust in the chest is basically Breast Fire... Pacific Rim isn't soul crushing and depressing.

04:34 <Thelema5> Nuh uh... doesn't use coconut and uses brown pigeon peas.

04:35 <Schism> Ahh, so something almost entirely different then.

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04:36 <Thelema5> More like this http://delishdlites.com/holiday-recipes/arroz-con-gandules-puerto-rican-rice-with-pigeon-peas-recipe/

04:36 <Thelema5> Except it's vegetarian

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04:37 <Schism> Pity, it'd go all the better with some bacon...

04:38 <Thelema5> Yes, but the recipe she gave us is quite serviceable

04:38 * Schism nodnods!

04:38 <Thelema5> I'd tyoe the whole thing out, except I don't know where my SO put it

04:39 <Thelema5> It uses this stuff, which is mostly MSG but also (strangely) vegan https://www.walmart.com/ip/Goya-Ham-Flavored-Concentrate-1-41-OZ/32685634?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227021652943&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=52445510415&wl4=pla-79523171295&wl5=9004813&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=32685634&wl13=&veh=sem

04:40 <Thelema5> I'd never heard of it before, apparently it's a very, very common ingregient in latino cooking

04:41 <Thelema5> *ingredient

04:43 <DashedRainbows> I've seen it before never tasted though

04:44 <Thelema5> It was a new thing for me.  VERY savory, tastes like ham

04:45 <Schism> I've seen that sort of product around and about a couple of times.  Boullion, just not.

04:45 <Schism> And you may or may not remember that I'm a fan of Marmite.  o3o

04:46 <Thelema5> I do remember.  Having tried the stuff myself- can't say I'm a fan

04:46 <Thelema5> But as far as savory salty stuff goes?  Makes sense

04:46 <Schism> Also, that stuff's not vegan.

04:47 <Schism> The pork substitute, that is to say.  http://tinyurl.com/yaypedmq

04:47 <Thelema5> It's vegetarian

04:48 <Schism> Tis that at least.  o3o  And honestly, probably kosher.

04:48 <Thelema5> I work at a hotel with many kosher clients.  Oy.  Don't get me stared on kosher.

04:49 * Thelema5 serves up a bacon cheeseburger

04:50 * Schism nomfs, and counters with a biscuit with bacon, pork gravy and a fried egg.

04:50 <Thelema5> Heh

04:50 <Thelema5> Add some shellfish and we're all set

04:50 <Schism> There is also the question of halal food.

04:50 * Thelema5 has NO experience with halal

04:51 * Thelema5 serves goat to be safe

04:51 <Schism> You're actually about halfway there, I suspect.  Just keep alcohol away from the kitchen, too.

04:51 <Schism> Depending on your waitstaff, this may be a difficult proposition.

04:51 <Thelema5> XD

04:52 <Thelema5> Does vinegar count as alcohol for halal?

04:52 <Thelema5> Because if so- that's a damned shame

04:52 * DashedRainbows goes to curl up in the corner

04:52 <DashedRainbows> Night

04:52 <Schism> Nightnight.

04:52 <Thelema5> G'night!

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04:53 <Schism> I don't think so?  I honestly don't know.

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04:54 <Thelema5> Me either.  Religious proscriptions are weird.

04:55 <Schism> The shellfish thing at least makes sense.  If you're living in a low-latitude region with high humidity, in a place with a lack of laws and understanding about food preparation, you reeeeeally don't want to be eating the shrimp or the clams.

04:55 * Thelema5 spend the past week planning for a "succus" event, where all kosher meals must be served under a temporary structure which allows a view of the stars

04:56 <Schism> Also, one of the things about Islamic dietary laws which also makes sense is that you can't eat carrion, e.g. an animal which just straight up died on its own.

04:57 <Thelema5> The basic kosher rules ALL make sense, Schism.  Pork is forbidden because it can carry Trichinellosis if undercooked.

04:58 * Schism nodnodnodnods. "Ultimately, they amount to a health and safety code, which was pretty damned important even before germ theory was a thing."

04:58 <Thelema5> But rather than being common sense with a scientific foundation, they take a fundimental religious proscription as their auhority

04:58 <Thelema5> *authority

04:59 <Schism> Which is unfortunate, and uses 'because we say so' instead of 'here's why it makes sense, don't do these things'.

04:59 <Thelema5> Yes

05:00 <Schism> And of course, the appeal to tradition, e.g. 'this is the way it's been practiced for years, what, is that not good enough for you?'

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05:01 <Schism> No, says I, it's not good enough for me, because I'm rather attached to this computer of mine.

05:01 <Thelema5> Yup.  Makes it hard to sell medium-rare pork these days, even though our agriculture practices have made it safe

05:02 <Schism> Undercooked fowl isn't much safer.  Mm-mmm, that lovely taste of salmonella.

05:02 <Thelema5> Yeah, you still want to cook your chicken past pink.

05:03 * Thelema5 's prefered protein is chicken

05:03 <Thelema5> Tiny dinosaurs deserve to be eaten

05:03 <Schism> Hmm, okay, so vinegar isn't proscribed because it doesn't addle the mind.  Which is not what I would say in regards to all those fish and chip shops strewn throughout London, but let's move on.

05:04 <Schism> (Or the kebab carts.)

05:05 <Thelema5> Tiny Dinosaurs are little monsters

05:05 <Schism> No kidding.  You ever seen a chicken eat a rat?  They pin it down and kick it to death.

05:05 <Thelema5> I've raised chickens.  They're monsters

05:06 <Schism> It's easy to forget that they're still flippin' VELOCIRAPTORS.

05:06 <Schism> On the plus side, that makes the Final Fantasy series even more awesome.

05:08 <Thelema5> Chickens will happily eat thier own young

05:08 <Thelema5> Not to mention their broodmates

05:08 <Thelema5> Monsters

05:08 <Schism> Yeah.  Chickens deserve to be devoured.

05:09 <Thelema5> Good thing they are delicious

05:10 <Schism> This is one more reason, by the way, I desire to eat alligator and/or snake.

05:10 <Thelema5> (although I suspect that they seem delicious to me due to generations of behavioral adaptation

05:11 <Thelema5> Ihad aligator jerky once, it was really greasy.

05:11 <Schism> I'm now imagining a Far Side comic with two cavemen passing the barbecue sauce between each other.

05:11 <Thelema5> heh

05:12 <Thelema5> Is Gary Larson still writing?

05:13 <Schism> He retired from the comics industry... oh gods alive, is it two decades ago now?

05:13 <Thelema5> Woah

05:13 <Schism> 1994.  Holy crap.

05:14 <Thelema5> Yer old now

05:14 <Thelema5> Welcome to the club

05:16 <Schism> I am.  At least Berke Breathed is still around.  Then again, I grew into the person I am now on a steady diet of Heinlein, Asimov, Tolkien, Thompson and Ellison, so my perspective may be just a teensy bit warped.

05:16 * PinkieShy places https://i.imgur.com/adunn3g.png on Thelema5 desk

05:17 <Schism> The cutest little nihilist.

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05:20 <Schism> (Also grew up on C.S. Lewis, but my parents didn't feel it would be responsible to subject me to The Screwtape Diaries when I was 9.)

05:22 <Schism> There was also some Anne Rice in there because you can't be a teenager without some vampire novels somewhere, and to my deep disappointment some Ayn Rand which fueled the idiocy of my teenage years before I recognized, "Wait, this isn't good."

05:23 <Schism> Also, ahem.  The Screwtape Letters.  

05:23 <Schism> Not sure where I conflated those.

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05:25 <Thelema5> For what it's worth, Schism... I still read Ayn Rand as a counter to modern media

05:26 <Schism> Ayn Rand had a lot of very interesting ideas, for all that she was a practical failure as a human being.

05:27 <Thelema5> She had some great ideas for an open market economy, which is a work of fiction

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05:28 <Schism> Her focus on individualism, which is a pretty important idea in general, remains and probably will remain a theme in things going forward, and for good reason.  There is the need for an 'ego', even in a state-sponsored system.

05:28 <Schism> It's a pity, though, that she put that above everything else ever.

05:29 <Thelema5> Unfortunately, industry without regulation is akin to fascism

05:29 <Schism> It becomes the state.

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05:30 <Thelema5> Yus

05:31 <Schism> It is vital to recognize that the human mind seeks to draw order from chaos, and there is little more chaotic than the human experience in and of itself.  An organized means of governance, be it in a moral sense or a legal one, will inevitably rise from any collective gathering of people.

05:32 <Schism> The question then is: should it be directed, or left to define itself?

05:34 <Schism> And of course, if left to define itself, isn't that just the same as changing the direction?

05:35 <Schism> It's 1:30 in the morning, now is the best time for fauxlosophical discussions.  *sip*

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05:38 <Schism> As a tangent, there's a remake of the Lord of the Flies in the works, with an all-female cast.  I personally don't think it'll work: Golding's book was at its heart a castigation of the British school system.

05:40 <Schism> Ohey, gamers, Fallout is free to install and play right now.

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05:44 <Schism> Thelema5: Interesting.  In Canada, there was a recent legal dispute involving the Popeye's chain of restaurants and their handling of poultry, specifically that the birbs were killed via machine.  The lack of oversight meant that it was impossible to verify if the birbs had been slaughtered in accordance with halal, so an ongoing legal pursuit continues.

05:46 <Schism> In Toronto, the restaurants in question are making use of their own hand-crafted ingredients.

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06:19 <Finwe> Didst thou call me?

06:19 <Finwe> Oh, and good morning, everypony.

06:21 <Schism> While ago... I do forget exactly why, I fear, though I have recently had the pleasure of reading an HiE story whose protagonist served the pones a Karelian pasty from his homeland.  o3o

06:21 <Finwe> o3o

06:22 <Schism> With the appropriate sauce, of course.

06:22 <Finwe> It seemed urgent.

06:22 <Finwe> 07:36 #EquestriaDaily: < Schism> Fiiiiinwe!  Fiwne Finwe Finwe.

06:23 <Schism> Oh, I was hungry and desired a pasty.  That's all, sorry to make you worry.

06:23 <Finwe> Oh, but that was yesterday. My backlog buffer is only 24 hours.

06:23 <Finwe> Anyhoof, I'm quite sure that I wasn't awake at 7:36 a.m.

06:24 <Schism> Mmm.  I shan't be awake in a few minutes myself, probably.

06:25 <Finwe> Roight, it's late evening there.

06:30 <Finwe> Lt Cdr CleverDerpy.

06:30 <Finwe> o7

06:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #993 [ http://tinyurl.com/yc3u7wrx ]

06:35 <Schism> "Let's start with a touchstone.  A dictionary will help, but I think we should go a little more primitive than that.  Thankfully, there's a single universal language that we all share, regardless of species."

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06:43 <Schism> Thelema5: What would you start with, if you wanted to communicate with a sapient being which is physically incapable of speaking the same language as you?  o3o

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06:45 <Finwe> Schism: Blessed touchstone.

06:45 <Finwe> Always bless your touchstone.

06:46 <Finwe> and especially your luckstone.

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06:46 <Schism> If you can manipulate BUC status, sure.  But not quite what I meant.  o3o  One example of a touchstone in history is the one which contained three instances of the Hammurabi Code.

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06:48 <Finwe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchstone_(assaying_tool)

06:48 <Finwe> That's the kind of touchstone I meant.

06:48 <Schism> Yus.  Thinking more like this, tho.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchstone_(metaphor)

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06:50 <Starwatcher> ... a disgrace to the forces of evil.

06:50 <Schism> In linguistic terms, a touchstone - like the Rosetta stone - is a means by which to find the first crack in an otherwise impenetrable wall.  In the eventuality of finding another sapient species which has nothing in common with humanity, the touchstone to which I'd turn is mathematics.

06:50 <Starwatcher> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g-i4EYj4FQ

06:51 <Schism> Every species out there, no matter what, has to have the concept that 1+1=2.

06:51 <Starwatcher> insert sarcastic remark: well, you know, that's like, your opinion dude.

06:51 <Starwatcher> ;)

06:52 <Starwatcher> aren't we living in an age where people can just make stuff up?

06:52 <Starwatcher> and facts don't matter?

06:52 <Finwe> Mr Starwatcher.

06:52 * Finwe doffs his hat.

06:52 <Starwatcher> hi

06:52 <Finwe> How are you? Hopefully not feeling ill anymore.

06:53 * Finwe hats on Starwatcher.

06:53 <Schism> Facts are just those things people make up in order to discredit the administration.  But seriously, if we ever get in touch with aliens, the first thing I'd do is show them that we understand basic mathematics.  '1+1=2' and the golden mean are a pretty good start, that's why they're on the Voyager plaque.

06:53 <Starwatcher> I agree completely.

06:54 <Starwatcher> you're right about math being universal.

06:54 <Starwatcher> not everyone appreciates this.

06:54 <Schism> And from there we might be able to leverage that into some means of understanding one another.

06:54 <Finwe> Schism: Who need Voyager when you have Discovery?

06:55 <Starwatcher> hey how is the new star trek

06:55 <Starwatcher> should I watch it

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06:59 <Finwe> Starwatcher: I've seen episodes 1 and 2, and based on them I'd say that it is worth watching.

06:59 <Schism> I've actually heard that The Orville is quite good, too.

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07:00 <Starwatcher> Finwe sweet I'm gonna try it then

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07:08 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

07:12 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

07:12 <Finwe> o7

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07:15 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe.

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07:16 * ConfusionRift salutes.

07:19 <Schism> "Y... essss?  Let us throw the unbreakable artifact powered by a spirit of rage and hatred into a volcano in an act of purest desperation and see what happens.  I'll bring the popcorn, you bring the marshmallows."

07:20 <ConfusionRift> Huh? I was already roasting them.

07:20 <ConfusionRift> Who will bring the choco bars?

07:21 <Schism> Thoughts on what might happen if you throw a freakin' phylactery into a volcano.  Also, I'd bring them, but my bag of holding is already full...

07:21 <Schism> Could be worse, though.  You could throw a phylactery into the sun.

07:26 <ConfusionRift> "What should we do with Pandora's Box?" | "I know! Throw it in a pit, with the lid open! So no one can open it ever." | "Genius!!!"

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07:29 <Schism> It's what wombats would do.  Which, on consideration, means it's probably what I'd do too.  I'm not as sensible as your average wombat, but their down-to-earth approach is something to aspire to.

07:29 <Schism> Well, I mean, throwing it into a pit.  Or encasing it in concrete, actually.

07:30 <Schism> Just seal it in concrete with a sign saying, "Look, you really don't want any part of this, just turn around and walk away."

07:31 <Schism> And another saying, "Look, this isn't gold.  You want gold, start digging anywhere but here, this is bad juju."

07:32 <ConfusionRift> Here's the problem. They're basically chucking the box in a pit no one can get to... while open. It's like put a haz-mat suit 30 minutes after bathing in radioactive waste.

07:32 <ConfusionRift> Or putting sunscreen after a wicked sunburn.

07:33 <Schism> Yeah, not all that sensible on reflection.  A sensible person would at least close the box again first.

07:33 <ConfusionRift> You're giving these wombats way too much credit. :P

07:34 <Schism> I'm giving them a bit more than you think.  The wombats would never open the box in the first place, they'd just say, "Welp, box full of evil, where's our cement mixer?"

07:35 <Schism> They might then pour the cement into a mould to create a piece of lovely artwork, that it never be destroyed at random.

07:35 <Schism> Or rather, just mould it into a brick to drop into the ocean.

07:36 <ConfusionRift> And, of course, one of them decides to put it on a map. Just so they don't lose it.

07:36 <ConfusionRift> And now the map is gone. Whoops. :P

07:37 <Schism> What, just so they can dig it back up?  No.  They'd pick a spot at random far away from civilization, go back, and then drink themselves into a stupor so they don't remember where they left the box that could end the world.

07:37 <Schism> They'd even make the cement out of mudstone so that it's not readily visible.

07:38 <Schism> Well, cover it in mudstone, anyway.

07:41 <Schism> http://diggercomic.com/blog/2008/05/11/digger-432/ - Why I mention wombats.  o3o

07:42 * ConfusionRift shrugs. he was just being silly.

07:43 <Schism> Digger - and many other wombats - are entirely sensible.  Which, of course, in a world which frequently is not, is both an asset and liability.

07:53 <Schism> Also, gods are jerks.  http://diggercomic.com/blog/2008/05/22/digger-443/

07:54 <ConfusionRift> Was reading some of it.

07:55 <Schism> You should read all of it!  Is good stuf.  Also is one of those very few works of fiction which accurately depicts vampire watermelons.

07:56 <Schism> Also, the writer is an anthropology major, and she writes a surprisingly convincing mythos regarding ... well, hyenas, and wombats, and everything else.

07:59 <ConfusionRift> "I'm a vampire orange! Fear meeeee!!!" | A vampire orange? So... you're an orange that sucks orange juice. | "...yes?" | And are still a normal orange. | "...kinda?" | Okay. (squash) Well, there goes that.

07:59 <Schism> That sounds like an episode of 'Annoying Orange'.

08:01 <Schism> "I thought emotions came from the heart?" "No, life is found in the liver." "But you can't live without your heart..." "Won't be living long without your liver, either."

08:01 <ConfusionRift> Wait, that means it's immortal? Darn it! I could have tossed it in a juicer and got infinite orange juice!

08:03 <Schism> CR: Also, Digger has the best hag.  She's 18ish, and yet she still speaks with the tone and voice of Granny Weatherwax.

08:04 <ConfusionRift> That's a dedicated hag from youth.

08:04 <Schism> Darned straight.  Some folks are just born to be that way.

08:06 <Schism> Nanny Ogg noted that some folks are just destined to be maidens, and if you cut Gytha Ogg in half, you'd see 'mum' written all the way through.

08:07 <Schism> Gytha Ogg is a professional mother.  And she was entirely upset at the thought that she might have to take on the title of... the other one.

08:07 <Schism> (Maiden, mother, and... that one.)

08:07 <Tirek> 'Mornin.

08:07 <ConfusionRift> Hallooo.

08:07 <Schism> Hihi, Tirek.  Please tell me you've at least read Digger?

08:08 <Tirek> Nope!

08:08 <Tirek> I won't tell you that and keep you guessing.

08:08 <Schism> Damn and blast.  You should if you haven't.

08:08 <Tirek> You've suggested I read a lot of things, all of which I've forgotten.

08:09 <Schism> Well, this one's particularly good, and I've suggested it to you a few times.

08:10 <Schism> It's that one with the surprisingly sensible wombat.

08:14 <Tirek> Hm.

08:14 <Tirek> Yeah, I don't remember this.

08:15 <Tirek> Right now, though, I'm in a rut musically.

08:15 <Tirek> And I hate when I'm in a rut, musically.

08:16 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, a manufacturer who sent me a recall notice wants me to fill out a form explaining their own recall. (sighs)

08:16 <Schism> Pity.  You should probably read through it.  And that's a shame... hmm.  I find that many problems are solved via careful application of harpsichord.

08:16 <Schism> Actually, Tirek, you know the Marble Machine created by Wintergaten?

08:16 <Tirek> Yes.

08:17 <Tirek> I also know he's building a new one.

08:17 * Finwe noms on Tirek's tail.

08:17 <Tirek> I've seen him cutting the gears out for the new machine.

08:17 <Schism> You seen the video where someone plays his song on the carillon in Utrecht?

08:17 <Tirek> No.

08:18 <Schism> Here you go.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CQgzqYuo04

08:18 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, how does a YouTube "company" works?

08:19 <Schism> Finwe: Actually, that was the video I was trying to draw your attention to.

08:27 <Tirek> This was neat.

08:27 <Tirek> Thank ya.

08:27 <Schism> Cheers.  I figured you might draw some inspiration, if nothing else, from that.

08:27 <ConfusionRift> A "modulin". Well, this is interesting.

08:29 <Schism> Oh yeah, the Wily theme played on that.  It's good stuff there.  <3

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08:32 <Schism> I love this dungeon, by the way, and the music just seals it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsY_ks8-yl4&t=147s

08:33 <TheNote21> can believe the year is almost over

08:33 <Schism> Wait, wait.  Wrong link.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsY_ks8-yl4 is the right start.

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08:37 <ConfusionRift> Wait wait wait... wait.

08:37 <Tirek> Not really getting any inspiration from these. Wrong style.

08:38 <Tirek> Remember, I'm working on sanic hack music. :v

08:38 <Schism> CR: Yrf?

08:39 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm... maybe Ristar, or Socket, or... i dunno, Vectorman.

08:39 <Schism> Tirek: True, I was just thinking that an upside-down world might be the right sort of idea for Sanic.

08:43 <Schism> Might still be viable, play off the minor key, dissonance in the main theme and harmony in the off sides, hmm...

08:44 <Schism> But of course the devs would have to design such a group of levels in the first place.

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08:47 <ConfusionRift> You know what Nintendo? Screw you. Going the piracy route now. You made this happen.

08:47 <ConfusionRift> I'll just get a Raspberry Pi for emulation, and get the individual USB controllers. Done.

08:48 <Schism> I take it this is in regards to the SNES Classic.

08:48 <ConfusionRift> Two things.

08:48 <Schism> And Nintendo's sheer and absolute failure to provide for their customer base.

08:49 <Schism> Pray, elucidate!

08:50 <ConfusionRift> One, the NES Classic, which I also wanted, is dead. The few you see out there will be it. Two, yes, SNES Classic became elusive overnight. And chances are they will not bother supporting it for too long either.

08:51 <ConfusionRift> They made two consoles that have the lifespam of a McDonald's happy meals toy.

08:52 <ConfusionRift> They literally just made fan toys.

08:52 <ConfusionRift> So, since I can already hear NES Classic Fiasco 2.0, I'm ditching that entirely, and just gonna improvise.

08:53 <Schism> A 2-GB flash card can pretty much carry the whole retinue of NES and SNES games anyway.

08:54 <Schism> Well, 4-GB.  And carry an OS and the emulators, at that.

08:54 * ConfusionRift shakes his head with a smile. "I'm going a bit above that."

08:55 <Schism> I have some doubts that a Raspberry Pi can run Twilight Princess.

08:55 <ConfusionRift> This is gonna be our retro arcade cabinet. So, SNES, NES, Genesis, Master System, and probably some arcade games.

08:55 <Schism> You might run into a few bottlenecks there.

08:55 <Schism> Ah!  Excellent.  And yes, MAME and/or its derivatives will be great for that.

08:56 <ConfusionRift> No no no. I'm not gonna suffocate it like that. The most it will get to is, probably, PSX.

08:56 <ConfusionRift> Forget about N64. That's a beast on its own.

08:56 <Schism> That's pretty much what I'm using an old laptop for.  It has a VGA cable, so.

08:56 <Schism> VGA port, rather.

08:57 <Schism> Funny thing is, when you put the chips down, it's probably less powerful than your average Raspberry Pi.

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08:58 <Schism> Aaaaand yeah.  N64 emulation is a monster in and of itself for a whole cavalcade of reasons.

08:59 <Schism> CR: If you find the opportunity, I maintain that you should tear apart a Gamecube.

08:59 * roflin hides his gamecube

08:59 <Schism> It's very educational.

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08:59 <Schism> Well, you know.  A spare, broken Gamecube.

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09:01 <Schism> Melt down some pen tips so that you can create some makeshift screwdrivers and then go to town on the thing.  The solid construction is something you won't usually see outside a space agency; it's pure beauty.

09:01 <DerpingAimlessly> Or get a screwdriver, but whatever floats your boat

09:01 <roflin> I might actually have the right screwbits sitting around.

09:02 <ConfusionRift> I only got one Gamecube, and it's in working order. But! I got a spare Gen 1.

09:02 <Schism> Have you seen the screws Nintendo uses on their console?  You either have to luck out or pay extra for them.  Melting some hard plastic to fit the bits is much more reasonable.

09:02 <Schism> consoles*

09:02 <roflin> now you made me curious...

09:02 <DerpingAimlessly> same...

09:03 <roflin> ah like a T6 but with a pin on them.

09:03 <ConfusionRift> You don't have the screw bits. They were a proprietary measure, which I already have a bit for.

09:03 * roflin rumages trough his bit set

09:03 <Schism> Okay, here's the trick, but do not blame me if you get your legacy equipment apart and can't fit it back together.  Take a hard plastic pen, remove the core and the inkwell.  Carefully use a lighter to soften the plastic around the tip.  Place that against the screw's head, and hold it in place to form a mold.

09:04 <Schism> Let it sit there for five minutes, maybe listen to a song while you do.

09:05 <Schism> Congratulations, you now have a pen which will no longer write and maybe, if you're lucky, something you can use to take apart Nintendo's proprietary nonsense.

09:06 <roflin> yeah I macgyvered a screwdriver like that once.

09:06 <roflin> unfortunately the bit was not in my bitset :(

09:06 <ConfusionRift> I think I got away with it with a flat.

09:07 <Schism> You can maybe pull it off with some needlenose pliers, too, but they're gonna have to be pretty slim to get into those ravines Nintendo buries their screws in.

09:08 <DerpingAimlessly> or just not try to break in to your console,

09:08 <Schism> Yeah, but where's the fun in that?

09:09 * ConfusionRift is very confused. The bolts are the same as the SNES cart ones.

09:09 <DerpingAimlessly> playing with the console

09:09 <Schism> CR: If you have a winning model...

09:10 <Schism> DerpingAimlessly, there is a certain type of person who desires to be able to tear apart any piece of hardware they own, learn how it works, and then fit it back together in working order.

09:10 <Schism> Because they need to know how it works.  It's a moral imperative.

09:11 <ConfusionRift> Since I had to fix other Nintendo products, I just bought the screwdriver bit for the cheap.

09:12 <Schism> Back me up here, Rifty.  Also, I hate you for having an easy source of such things.

09:12 <ConfusionRift> o_0

09:12 <DerpingAimlessly> savage

09:13 <Schism> Not actually hatred, just jealousy.  But yeah.  We kinda tend towards needing to know how to salvage, which - by design - means that we tear our own toys apart regularly.

09:13 <ConfusionRift> I'm sorry, the pen trick didn't work at all. And $2 for a tungsten screwdriver bit wasn't too bad, just to add a bit on an order for free shipping.

09:13 <Schism> $2 for a tungsten Nintendo-based screwdriver bit.  I think I'm back to 'hate'.

09:14 <Schism> :P

09:14 <Schism> But, you know, if you're doing it on a frequent basis, the pen trick won't work for long.

09:15 <ConfusionRift> Especially when the plastic will eventually just lose its shape with use.

09:15 <Schism> Even if it works in the first place, so, yanno.  Investment, wonk wonk yadda yadda investment.

09:17 <DerpingAimlessly> o.k

09:18 <ConfusionRift> But yeah, the Gamecube was pretty powerful for what it was, at least back then.

09:20 <DerpingAimlessly> way back when...

09:22 <Schism> I've taken a Gamecube apart, and simply boggled.  The things are built like a freakin' brick.  There is no inch of wasted space within.

09:23 <Schism> If you've ever held one in your hand, you might have marveled at how solid the console feels.  That's because it is.

09:28 <Schism> Heft a Gamecube, and you are holding in your palm a 1,000cm^3 brick of engineering.  Mind you, it then becomes an actual brick if anything so much as jostles the lens on the optical drive, but it's still pretty solid engineering.

09:29 <Schism> Sorry, 8,000 cubic centimeters.  

09:29 <Tirek> I, unfortunately, have no control over what hacker-guy does. :v

09:30 <Tirek> But upside-down was a thing done in other games already, so.

09:30 <Schism> True.  :<  The music would have really made it, tho.

09:30 <Schism> Get that whole reversal mechanic going on.

09:31 <Tirek> Heh.

09:31 <Schism> Though, come to think, you did pretty much nail that in the water level's theme.

09:32 <Tirek> I'm so tired. My body is very adamantly against trying to get off this 26 hour day thing.

09:32 <ConfusionRift> Okay. So the console does turn on, and gives some AV feedback, but there's no sign of it reading the cart.

09:33 <Schism> Tirek: You... really need to just give that up then.  Or find the time to sleep for four days straight.

09:33 <ConfusionRift> If there's a sweet spot, I can't find it.

09:34 <Schism> Find a way to ... well, Cepheid took melatonin, surely you can find something which lets you close your eyes for that long.

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09:35 <Tirek> Melatonin's a bad idea.

09:35 <Tirek> You gotta take that at a very precise time.

09:35 <Tirek> And I'm the opposite of precise.

09:35 <Schism> Actually, idea!  Tirek: I have a holistic approach which you may find workable in this situation.

09:35 <Tirek> Tell me more.

09:35 <Schism> Step 1: Find a brick wall.

09:37 <Tirek> I presume step 2 involves a concussion.

09:37 <Schism> No, the concussion is step 3.

09:38 <Tirek> I'm gonna ride this out. I prefer maintaining the last few remaining cells I might have in my brain.

09:39 <Schism> In today's political climate, that's a liability, but I salute your integrity there.

09:43 <DerpingAimlessly> understandable

09:44 <Tirek> You're implying all political climates don't favor the dumb.

09:44 <Tirek> The dumb contributes the most votes!

09:45 <Schism> Okay, that's enough brain cells for tonight.

09:45 <Schism> Wait, it's almost 6 AM.

09:45 <Schism> The moon's about to land on Clock Town.

09:46 <Tirek> It's okay, I got the fierce diety mask on my first playthrough.

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09:47 <Tirek> Oh, SAGE starts today.

09:47 <Schism> I don't believe you, but I rarely believe any tales of darring-do and heroism anyway.

09:47 <Tirek> Welp, I guess that means the hack isn't going to end up there.

09:47 <Tirek> Oh well, all that rushing for nothin'.

09:47 <Schism> SAGE?  I take it that's entirely different from SAGA, the tale of a cat who castigates liars.

09:48 <Tirek> Sonic Amateur Games Expo. Hackerman wanted to enter his hack this year.

09:49 <ConfusionRift> And how long has he been working on it?

09:50 <Tirek> Heck if I know! He just showed it off to me one day and, internally, I'm like "this is unplayable, the music makes me want to immediately destroy all traces of its existence!"

09:50 <Tirek> And, so, I'm attempting to do exactly that.

09:50 <Tirek> The music, not the hack.

09:52 <Schism> So what you're saying is 'great level design, terrible muzik'.

09:53 <Tirek> Level design is so-so. Intentionally difficult, sometimes bull.

09:53 <ConfusionRift> So none good. Hmm.

09:53 <Schism> Well, that definitely sucks.  Bull(yay) traps which Sonic has no choice but to run into unless you know they're there ahead of time?

09:54 <Tirek> I mean, its not bad! But the original soundtrack'll probably be the thing that stands out the most.

09:54 <ConfusionRift> It sure would. Those compositions were... yeah.

09:55 <Tirek> He's actually supposed to be redoing the levels to make them more fair, or he was.

09:55 <Tirek> Dunno what happened to that.

09:55 <Schism> The water level theme you've written is still superb and I love it and I wish it were used in a better scenario.

09:56 <Tirek> Maybe some day.

09:56 <Tirek> But, some day, I'll probably look at it and say "this is awful, how did I think this was good?" forgetting that my metric here was "It's better than the original."

09:57 <Schism> We make these tiny improvements, these steps towards better selves, and then we look back at ourselves when we were 16 and think, 'Man, what a jerk.'

09:58 <Schism> I mean, I look back at myself at age 14 and think, "... is he actually reading Atlas Shrugged?"

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10:00 <Schism> If we make those tiny efforts, we get better.  Or at least, that's what I dearly, dearly hope.

10:00 <Tirek> I dunno, I've kinda been stagnant.

10:01 <Tirek> Some of my best music still was from 2014/2015.

10:01 <Schism> Pff.  You'll dig your way out.

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10:02 <Schism> We all have those off times when we fall into a rut.  If you're in one, you've at least recognized it, and that's the first step to digging yourself free.

10:02 <Tirek> Like, the only major steps I've been taking, music-wise, is that I'm trying to use mode mixture more.

10:02 <Tirek> And I'm not doing well with that.

10:03 <Schism> Pretty sure you'll figure something out, even if it's a reversion to old form with some new tricks mixed in.

10:04 * ConfusionRift flops. "better than my stuff."

10:04 <Schism> Damnit, though.  I'm afraid I need to sleep -- again.  It is pretty late in the morn, and so...

10:05 <Tirek> Have a day!

10:05 <Tirek> I may just go back to sleep myself.

10:05 <Schism> It's a Saturday.

10:05 * Schism flops.

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11:54 * CleverDerpy is eating a muffin

11:55 <CleverDerpy> nom~

11:58 <CleverDerpy> good muffin~

11:59 <ConfusionRift> Hallooo.

11:59 <CleverDerpy> ConfusionRift, did you get derpy's letter?

11:59 <ConfusionRift> Did you get mine? :P

11:59 <CleverDerpy> derpy forgets how to read it

12:00 <ConfusionRift> .!mbox read #

12:00 <ConfusionRift> I think...

12:00 <CleverDerpy> !mbox read #

12:01 <CleverDerpy> nope

12:01 <ConfusionRift> ... the # is the number of the letter. this case being 1.

12:01 <CleverDerpy> just tried it, nope

12:01 <CleverDerpy> sorry about the confusion DerpyBot, have a muffin

12:01 <CleverDerpy> !muffin

12:01 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3

12:01 <CleverDerpy> yes

12:01 <DerpyBot> Thank you!!

12:01 * DerpyBot glomps CleverDerpy

12:02 * ConfusionRift noms muffin, it's all good. :P

12:02 <CleverDerpy> what did you say in da letter?

12:04 <ConfusionRift> I don't even remember right now.

12:04 <CleverDerpy> well, the topic i sent was that i got the SNES classic

12:04 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and by the way, it was !mbox read 1.

12:04 <ConfusionRift> Unless you already read it.

12:04 <CleverDerpy> yep, there's nothing in her bag

12:05 <ConfusionRift> Derpy Bot!

12:05 <CleverDerpy> maybe she eated da letter?

12:05 * ConfusionRift wonders if it got returned to sender somewhere.

12:05 <CleverDerpy> it's oki derpybot, we still wub you~

12:06 <ConfusionRift> "That's nice, and hope you did get the ride you needed earlier."

12:07 <CleverDerpy> oooh, oki

12:07 <ConfusionRift> There it was. Good thing for backlogs.

12:07 * CleverDerpy hugs ConfusionRift

12:07 <CleverDerpy> i walked there

12:07 <CleverDerpy> it was a long walk

12:07 <ConfusionRift> Oh jeez.

12:09 <ConfusionRift> Hope you're okay, and you know who is happy with the present. :P

12:18 <ConfusionRift> Schism: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81wc0PhMQvL._SL1500_.jpg It has been decided.

12:22 <ConfusionRift> Actually... (looks at the broken Genesis) I got a better idea.

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12:38 <ConfusionRift> I will call it ironic humor.

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12:52 <Jahnesta> Hey

12:52 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.

12:52 <Jahnesta> What's up?

12:52 <ConfusionRift> Tired. About to crash

12:53 <Jahnesta> What happend then?

12:53 <ConfusionRift> Just about time to sleep for me.

12:53 <Jahnesta> O3o

12:53 <Jahnesta> o3o

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14:14 <Schism> "In this timeline, Luna has not been trapped in Dalamud, so I have absolutely no clue what's going to happen.  Certain events seem to be following the course of our collective scry, but it's hard to say."

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15:29 <DashedRainbows> Good morning everypony

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15:43 <Librarian> owo

15:43 <Librarian> i have to do soo many invoices

15:43 <Librarian> i wanna rest owo

15:55 <DashedRainbows> Em ponies are off watching the episode. How nice

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16:03 * DashedRainbows makes happy horse noises

16:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> Episode over. Continue horsing!

16:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> :3

16:04 * DashedRainbows horses around

16:05 <DashedRainbows> Err, ponies around

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16:57 <Librarian> finally half done

16:57 <Librarian> owo

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17:12 <Finwe> Lt Cdr CleverDerpy!

17:12 <Finwe> o7

17:13 * Finwe hugs the CleverDerpy.

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17:29 <Librarian> derpy!

17:29 <Librarian> i made more drawings owo

17:30 <Librarian> wanna see?

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17:35 <Librarian> http://fav.me/dbp14tk

17:35 <Librarian> http://fav.me/dbp14ml

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17:42 <Librarian> time to go play a bit

17:42 <Librarian> see ya later

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17:42 <DashedRainbows> Cya

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18:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Awesome Vocal Music: John Kenza - Love (feat. 4EverfreeBrony) [Future Bass/Pop] [ http://tinyurl.com/yao4m3jt ]

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18:41 <LunaticHell> goooooooooooooooooooooood morning, equestria

18:41 * LunaticHell hugs SunsetShimmer

18:41 <LunaticHell> I am positively druuuuuuuuuunk

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18:44 <LunaticHell> hello Nuclear

18:44 <hawthornbunny> That's good. Negative drunkenness is bad

18:44 <Nuclear> Hello, LunaticHell.

18:44 <LunaticHell> How has your day been?

18:45 * Ali is negative drunk cause she never drinks.

18:46 <LunaticHell> I've been into leathal alcohol poisoning, and you, Nuclear, what has your day been like?

18:46 * LunaticHell hugs Ali, cause Ali is best princess around.

18:46 <Nuclear> I'm daydreaming about being rich.

18:46 * Ali looks on her back, still no wings, so she's not a princess.

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18:47 <Nuclear> Because I'm tired of working for crappy wages, no benefits, and no social mobility.

18:47 <LunaticHell> Daydreaming is a good motivation to do things.

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18:47 <LunaticHell> Ali is best princess in my book.

18:47 <LunaticHell> brb

18:47 <Nuclear> The USA reached its peak for the working class in 1968.

18:47 <Nuclear> It's been downhill ever since then.

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18:48 * Ali isn't working but the government keeps trying to shut off her SSDI..

18:48 <Nuclear> Shoot, I WISH I could live off SSDI.

18:48 <Nuclear> Then I wouldn't have to work anymore.

18:48 <Ali> Nuclear, its not worth it

18:48 <Ali> This entire year I've been having to fight the government from shutting me off

18:49 <Nuclear> I never fought the government, which is why I am paying back SSI overpayments.

18:49 <Ali> And just when I get it fixed, they come back and try to take half of my income away.

18:49 <Nuclear> I had to pay $685 in Obamacare tax penalties because I didn't have health insurance, and the rest of my tax return went to paying SSI back.

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18:50 <Nuclear> And at this rate, it will be at least five years before it's all paid back, especially if I have to pay $685 a year in Obamacare tax penalties.

18:50 <Nuclear> That's the most egregious thing...

18:51 <ADragonHoarding> get some health insurance that costs less?

18:51 <Nuclear> How about I get no health insurance and pay no tax penalties for choosing not to waste money on something I don't need?

18:52 <ADragonHoarding> k, but I'm not interested in arguing the state of affairs

18:52 <ADragonHoarding> was just suggesting a possible solution within the current state of affairs

18:52 <Nuclear> I see, fair enough.

18:53 * Ali flops over ADragonHoarding

18:54 <ADragonHoarding> also no health insurance leads to $4000 bill for a dislocated shoulder the treatment of which amounted to letting me use a "bed" for a bit, them rotating it back in, and then a cloth sling, so...

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18:54 <Nuclear> I would rather die than pay $4,000 to the medical establishment.

18:54 <Ali> Wee shoulder dislocations suck!

18:54 <ADragonHoarding> Technically I did have health insurance but some way the hospital wasn't tracking, I dunno how it wound up resolved.

18:55 <Librarian> insurance is a pain owo

18:55 <Librarian> is hould know

18:55 <Librarian> i should know

18:55 <ADragonHoarding> Would've honestly preferred to have dislocated the shoulder over in Ivory Coast, could've just gone to the mission hospital my dad works at had it done for a reasonable charge.

18:55 <ADragonHoarding> anyway

18:56 * Ali licks ADragonHoarding nose!

18:56 <ADragonHoarding> hi.

18:56 * Ali wavies!

18:56 <ADragonHoarding> 'sup

18:56 <Ali> Not much, lazy day is super lazy and can't think of what game to play.

18:56 <ADragonHoarding> what you got?

18:57 <Ali> Sanic Mania, Fallout 4, Motorsport Manager >.>

18:57 <ADragonHoarding> I been playing Fallout 4 again

18:57 <Ali> I'm on a stabby stabby build

18:57 * Ali sneaked an Alpha Deathclaw ded in 2 stabbies.

18:58 <ADragonHoarding> Tryna get Sanctuary and GrayGarden and Sunshine Tidings and such stored up to start cranking out adhesive

18:58 <ADragonHoarding> but need adhesive for robit provisioners.

18:58 <Ali> I haven't had too much trouble finding duck tape

18:58 <Ali> Any fun quest or area I should try?

18:59 * Ali sadly only has vanilla fallout 4 so she can't Far Harbor or Nuka World.

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19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: Equestria LA: The Final Curtain [ http://tinyurl.com/ycysk23d ]

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19:13 <ADragonHoarding> I have Vanilla+Automatron, so I don't Far Harbor orNuka World either.

19:14 <ADragonHoarding> And see I find lots of duck tape too, buuuuut

19:14 <ADragonHoarding> 75 adhesive gets used quick-like.

19:14 <ADragonHoarding> Anyway, fun quests...

19:15 <ADragonHoarding> You are sneaky stabby... I'd say Vault 81 to get Curie.

19:15 <ADragonHoarding> But you have to deal with mole rats who

19:15 <ADragonHoarding> well, if they bite you get a permanent -10 to health

19:15 <ADragonHoarding> (just once but)

19:16 <ADragonHoarding> I only did it because VATS-Enhanced Improved Gamma-wave Automatic Laser Pistol

19:16 <ADragonHoarding> and Lucky Hardened Tactical Combat Shotgun

19:17 * Ali has Pickman's Blade and a Mighty .50 Sniper Rifle

19:17 <ADragonHoarding> on this run though I got a mod for guides to all the collectibles and have been going about collecting them.

19:17 <ADragonHoarding> Sneaky stabby you probably don't bring buddies.

19:18 <Ali> Well I have Deacon right now.

19:18 <ADragonHoarding> I'm mostly playing with an eye towards becoming De Facto boss-man.

19:18 <ADragonHoarding> Like okay the BoS has their airship and the railroad might still exist and the institute might have their synths but I'm the General, mate.

19:19 <ADragonHoarding> Robits carry the goods and people make the goods and I have artillery. Everywhere.

19:21 <ADragonHoarding> Have you done Nick's quests?

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19:22 * Schism nomfs on some pepper-jack cheese.

19:22 <ADragonHoarding> Schism: lastest Gamer chapter cuts off right when getting good. Dislike shortness.

19:23 <Schism> 30 pages is insufficient, is true.  ;-;

19:23 *** solar is now known as aurora

19:24 <aurora> hello

19:24 <Ali> I haven't started on that part of the main quest ADragonHoarding

19:25 <aurora> a bit uncertain what this channel is about. is equestria a game or netflix or what?

19:25 <aurora> about horses?

19:25 <DashedRainbows> !link equestria

19:25 <DerpyBot> http://derpibooru.org/258720

19:26 <DashedRainbows> hrmph

19:26 <DashedRainbows> something is up with DerpyBot

19:26 <ADragonHoarding> you know the show My Little Pony?

19:26 <aurora> yes. and this is a 18+ channel?

19:26 <ADragonHoarding> No.

19:26 <ADragonHoarding> This is all ages.

19:27 <aurora> ok...

19:27 <ADragonHoarding> We just have the shared interest in the show

19:27 <aurora> ok. bye!

19:27 <ADragonHoarding> and like to talk to each other

19:27 <ADragonHoarding> bye.

19:27 *** Parts: aurora (solar@Pony-50b82e.tbcn.telia.com) ("Leaving")

19:27 <ADragonHoarding> Eye roll

19:27 <DashedRainbows> some people

19:28 <Schism> I... suppose that was a thing?

19:28 * Ali was expecting it to devolve into making fun of people watching ponies.

19:29 <ADragonHoarding> I think "no" after question re: 18+ may have headed that off.

19:30 <Ali> Never stopped some trolls before :P

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19:30 <ADragonHoarding> This is true.

19:30 <ADragonHoarding> That is what boots are for.

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19:30 <ADragonHoarding> ! boot to the head

19:30 <ADragonHoarding> oh right

19:30 <ADragonHoarding> !link boot to the head

19:30 <Ali> YOU SHIMER :P

19:30 <DerpyBot> Twilight says she doesn't have anything in the library about that

19:30 <ADragonHoarding> !link boot

19:30 <Ali> Wow thanks lag

19:30 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/640055

19:31 * Ali remembers the booterang from WoW

19:31 <ADragonHoarding> ...well okay boots are a tag there I guess.

19:31 <Schism> !link https://derpibooru.org/492361

19:31 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about ahuizotl safe solo simple background objection (and 4 more)

19:31 <ADragonHoarding> yes that is more what I was looking for.

19:32 * Ali bonks her pc to stop lagging by .1

19:32 <ADragonHoarding> oh that's rwby reference okay.

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19:33 * ADragonHoarding scrolls back up and clicks on the image offered by derpybot after !link Equestria and sees "suggestive" derpibooru warning

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19:33 <ADragonHoarding> no wonder they asked about 18+

19:34 <ADragonHoarding> ...image isn't even suggestive

19:34 * ADragonHoarding throws hands in air over community tagging

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19:36 <ADragonHoarding> what level u, Ali?

19:36 <Ali> ADragonHoarding, 37

19:36 <ADragonHoarding> heh

19:37 <ADragonHoarding> whatchoo been working on in it mostly?

19:37 <LunaticHell> !

19:37 <Ali> Like what?

19:37 * Ali is a Railroader

19:37 <ADragonHoarding> right, Deacon.

19:37 * LunaticHell doesn't snuggles ADragonHoarding because he remembers a thing but still greets

19:37 <ADragonHoarding> hi.

19:37 <LunaticHell> Tiamat!

19:38 <LunaticHell> I am not drunk

19:38 <LunaticHell> this was a lie

19:38 <Ali> I have 3 sneak books left to find, but they're in meh locations.

19:38 <Ali> So you are drunk

19:38 <ADragonHoarding> nah, he crunk

19:38 <LunaticHell> Super crunk.

19:38 <Schism> I should load up FO3 again sometime.  Maybe with a few good mods.

19:38 <LunaticHell> So nice to see ya, Tiamat.

19:39 * Schism also boops the LunaticHell with a slice of orange chocolate.

19:39 * LunaticHell boops a Schism with a baleys

19:39 <ADragonHoarding> tha's what I been doing in FO4, is curating mods

19:39 <LunaticHell> Or however it is spelled

19:39 <ADragonHoarding> personal curation only

19:39 <LunaticHell> I drunk a bottle of it

19:39 <Schism> Bailey's?  The liqueur?  Ah.

19:40 <LunaticHell> An entire 0.7 l bottle, yes.

19:40 <ADragonHoarding> got a mod called Easy Home and Beds or some such.

19:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> LunaticHell: I have a big bottle still almost full

19:40 <ADragonHoarding> the homes are proving obtuse to place.

19:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> Only took a glass out of it a couple of days ago

19:40 <ADragonHoarding> I think it's clipping issues with the ground. Need to figure that ou

19:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> Still have to empty it, so if you're interested ...

19:41 <LunaticHell> Starlight_Glimmer: Good thing you're not an alcoholic like me.

19:41 <LunaticHell> I'd drink it in a day.

19:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> Oh wow

19:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> I hope that wasn't serious

19:41 <LunaticHell> Actually.

19:41 <LunaticHell> When I drink, I drink.

19:42 <LunaticHell> I once drunk so much I teleported.

19:42 <LunaticHell> Because...blackouts did happen.

19:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> I rarely drink alcohol. And when I do usually shandy or something else with actual flavor ;)

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19:43 <LunaticHell> I actually managed to find myself the way to the nearest subway station without knowing how to get there

19:43 <LunaticHell> Because blackout

19:43 <LunaticHell> I was talking to a guy wearing a 2017 kinda glasses when suddenly "how did I get here?"

19:44 <Ali> Well that was anticlimatic ADragonHoarding

19:45 <Ali> I run into a Beheamoth

19:45 <ADragonHoarding> eh?

19:45 <ADragonHoarding> sneak stab?

19:45 * Ali sneaks, stabs crits, x12.6 damage, he falls over dead on first stabby

19:45 <LunaticHell> Snek?

19:45 <ADragonHoarding> a Behemoth is... Super Mutant?

19:45 <LunaticHell> I ded inside

19:46 <LunaticHell> o. o

19:46 <Ali> Yeah, the big big guys

19:46 <LunaticHell> Big boi

19:46 <ADragonHoarding> I ran into Swan accidentally.

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19:46 <Ali> Yeah he's a Behemoth

19:46 <Ali> But I thought I'd have to stabby him several times, not once.

19:46 <LunaticHell> wait

19:46 <LunaticHell> a behemoth swan?

19:47 * Ali boops LunaticHell. "Its a Behemoth named Swan."

19:47 <LunaticHell> Ooooooh

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19:48 <LunaticHell> Swanson is a way better name

19:49 <SunsetShimmer> better than bella swan!

19:49 <LunaticHell> Or hella swan

19:49 * LunaticHell boops SunsetShimmer

19:49 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> ...

19:50 <LunaticHell> hoi

19:50 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I'm in my local theater watching it.

19:50 <ADragonHoarding> I saw level 50 in VATS and was like "wut"

19:50 <SunsetShimmer> watching what?

19:50 <LunaticHell> ...you are...chatting in a theatre?

19:51 <ADragonHoarding> and then the automatic laser fire started pouring in while dogmeat distracted and it worked out well.

19:51 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> The movie hasn't started.

19:51 <ADragonHoarding> I need to utilizie the heavy metal pieces.

19:51 <LunaticHell> Maybe ask your Johnson

19:51 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I'm watching it, SunsetShimmer.

19:51 <SunsetShimmer> Oh, It

19:51 <SunsetShimmer> capitalise, bruh

19:51 <SunsetShimmer> helps differentiate the word

19:51 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> k.

19:52 <ADragonHoarding> scary clown movie?

19:52 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yus.

19:52 <LunaticHell> Or hire a decker?

19:52 <ADragonHoarding> def "It"

19:52 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> A kid is here in the room.

19:53 <LunaticHell> @Tiamat: do you want your papership back?

19:53 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I wished it was empty here.

19:53 <ADragonHoarding> what?

19:53 <LunaticHell> what?

19:53 <ADragonHoarding> papership?

19:53 <LunaticHell> Sorry, I get weired idead when I hear "it"

19:53 <LunaticHell> ideas*

19:54 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Wow, alot of people here...

19:54 <ADragonHoarding> alot of people

19:54 <ADragonHoarding> that poor alot

19:54 <LunaticHell> Nossy

19:54 <LunaticHell> Ya know me

19:54 <ADragonHoarding> it will never love itself

19:54 <LunaticHell> I am de Lunatic

19:54 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yus.

19:54 <LunaticHell> *snuggles*

19:54 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Hehe.

19:55 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Damn it, I wish there was a fucking clown in here.

19:55 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Oops

19:55 <ADragonHoarding> Oops.

19:55 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Language..sorry.

19:55 <LunaticHell> The language is english, isn't it?

19:55 * The_Nostalgia_Mare opens arms. Preparing for pickle shower.

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19:56 <LunaticHell> Sorry bad pun.

19:56 * LunaticHell turns into pickle rick

19:56 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Oh wow, why is there so many kids here?!

19:56 <LunaticHell> I know, right?

19:56 <LunaticHell> Especially since there's evil like me.

19:57 <Schism> You could always say that you're watching It.

19:57 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Man, parents want to give their children nightmares.

19:57 <LunaticHell> Yes!

19:57 <LunaticHell> good ol nightmares

19:58 <LunaticHell> I had quality nightmares

19:58 <LunaticHell> once you wake up crying

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19:58 <LunaticHell> ones*?

19:58 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Ying!

19:58 * LunaticHell hugs SunsetShimmer

19:58 <CleverDerpy> LunaticHell~

19:58 <CleverDerpy> Nossy~

19:58 <LunaticHell> derpy!

19:58 * LunaticHell hugs CleverDerpy

19:59 * CleverDerpy purrs

19:59 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I'm watching It!

19:59 <CleverDerpy> Nossy, i got a super NES classic

20:00 <CleverDerpy> ees fun

20:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: EQLA Welcomes Aynsley King! [ http://tinyurl.com/yc4w8ufa ]

20:01 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Nice, CleverDerpy.

20:03 * Ali snugs into CleverDerpy

20:04 <LunaticHell> God this episode....so good.

20:04 <LunaticHell> In a non-spoilery kinda way.

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20:05 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Ok got to go.

20:05 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Laters.

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20:08 *** Quits: [AFK] (Bat@Squeaky.Cuddly.Batpony) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)

20:11 * LunaticHell snuggles SunsetShimmer , again "how do you do?"

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20:13 <Pony|28758> Do people still use the IRC or discord is what everyone uses?

20:14 <DashedRainbows> irc 4evar

20:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> Proprietary hosted solutions? No thanks.

20:18 <DashedRainbows> I use both, but irc will forever be my love

20:18 <DashedRainbows> in chats I mean

20:18 * Schism bobbles over to LunaticHell, wearing a wig and red nose. "We all float down here."

20:18 <ADragonHoarding> I am no picky.

20:19 <ADragonHoarding> I just don't use Discord for pony.

20:19 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'll never be OK with a system where you essentially give all control away

20:19 <Schism> Also, LunaticHell, you never want to ask your Johnson for more resources, they'll happily nod, smile and install a cranium bomb.

20:19 <ADragonHoarding> IRC is hosted on servers though

20:19 <DashedRainbows> irccloud is pretty good if lazy

20:19 <LunaticHell> Indeed.

20:20 <ADragonHoarding> those who run the servers could just shut it down

20:20 <DashedRainbows> otherwise maintain a bouncer

20:20 <LunaticHell> Ain't nobody got the credits for this.

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20:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> Especially if the financing model of the company behind it is unclear und as of right now inviable

20:20 <Schism> Maybe Ghostwalker does.

20:20 <LunaticHell> Chummer needs to be less gready.

20:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> ADragonHoarding: The difference is I can setup an IRC server any time

20:20 <Schism> But drgns don't need that much in the way of deniable assets.

20:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> And the service is provided by a non profit entity

20:21 <ADragonHoarding> eh

20:21 <Starlight_Glimmer> (not by law, but practically)

20:21 <ADragonHoarding> I'm not paying anything for Discord so whatever

20:21 <ADragonHoarding> it's not my only method of contacting people anyway

20:21 <Starlight_Glimmer> If you're not paying for a product, then you ARE the product. ;)

20:22 <ADragonHoarding> I dunno

20:22 <ADragonHoarding> they don't exactly have anything from me

20:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> Sure right now Discord is aiming for growth only

20:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> But eventually they'll be aiming for profit

20:22 <ADragonHoarding> okay, but what are they actually going to sell

20:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> And that's when things get nasty

20:22 <DashedRainbows> everything

20:23 <Starlight_Glimmer> They have a ton of data

20:23 <Starlight_Glimmer> Data is very valuable and then once the product is adopted you start annoying people with ads

20:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> Facebook for example got into the ad business quite late

20:25 <ADragonHoarding> I don't click on ads

20:25 <LunaticHell> I forgot

20:25 <ADragonHoarding> basically

20:25 <ADragonHoarding> my info that can be sold

20:25 <ADragonHoarding> already has been

20:26 <ADragonHoarding> Discord has nothing different.

20:26 <ADragonHoarding> In that regard, at least.

20:27 <ADragonHoarding> in fact discord only has my e-mail address and a screen name

20:27 <Starlight_Glimmer> And access to pretty much everything you ever said or wrote

20:27 <ADragonHoarding> On Discord.

20:28 <Starlight_Glimmer> Of course

20:28 <Schism> Wow, this puts things into perspective.  Behold: the original set of the Addams Family, in beautiful colour.  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK2D7ZHW4AAzZd1.jpg:large

20:28 <LunaticHell> On a scale of 1 to 10, how drunk am I? I already forgot the first question.

20:28 <Starlight_Glimmer> The question is: Do they save it? That's a tough one

20:28 <Starlight_Glimmer> Because they might claim they don't and actually do it anyway

20:29 <LunaticHell> Always, glim glam shim sham.

20:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> Like when someone figured out through a bug he could access photos he had deleted from FB months ago.

20:29 <ADragonHoarding> But honestly

20:30 <Starlight_Glimmer> I get why people use these services: They're super convenient.

20:30 <ADragonHoarding> they can't really use what I put on Discord

20:30 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'd just rather not

20:30 <ADragonHoarding> I don't put anything monetizable there.

20:30 <LunaticHell> mon-a-what?

20:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> You can monetize basically everything. Especially something as simple as meta data

20:31 <LunaticHell> digi-mon or poke-mon?

20:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story Updates - September 30th [ http://tinyurl.com/y793ghbg ]

20:31 <ADragonHoarding> Again.

20:31 <ADragonHoarding> I don't click on ads.

20:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> I doubt they're doing much with it now

20:31 <ADragonHoarding> Someone, somewhere, loses money on me.

20:32 <Starlight_Glimmer> But the nice thing about "big data" (nice buzzword) is they might at any point in the future

20:32 <ADragonHoarding> Again. What would they do.

20:32 <LunaticHell> here

20:32 <LunaticHell> have tis rose

20:33 <LunaticHell> "big data"?

20:33 <Starlight_Glimmer> Even if they don't make money directly from you which is unlikely in the long run you still are using the system and therefor supporting it's strong userbase which attracts even more people

20:33 <LunaticHell> I could fill a presentation on this alone

20:33 <ADragonHoarding> ...which is bad why?

20:34 <LunaticHell> tl;dr when the service is "free", then you are the product

20:34 <Starlight_Glimmer> Well: Let me put it that way: They leave your soul alone and rather keep the ones from all the people that use the platform because of you :P

20:34 <LunaticHell> I need more huffle puffs brb

20:34 <ADragonHoarding> But nobody uses it because of me

20:34 <ADragonHoarding> I use it because of other people

20:34 <ADragonHoarding> also, I'm not seeing where the harm comes in

20:35 <ADragonHoarding> monetizing metadata sounds scary but what harm is actually done?

20:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> See and if you'd refuse to use it people might move away or use the platform less

20:35 <ADragonHoarding> but why is that a good thing

20:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> From meta data alone I know where you are, what you do for a living, who you're interacting with, get an estimated income, ...

20:36 <ADragonHoarding> you sure

20:36 <LunaticHell> Harm?

20:36 <ADragonHoarding> okay, and how is this harming me?

20:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> Meta data is in a sense more important than the actual content of communication

20:36 <ADragonHoarding> the government knows all of that.

20:36 <LunaticHell> That is a good question, Tiamat.

20:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> I think you overestimate the government

20:36 <LunaticHell> I would rather argue on princaple.

20:36 <ADragonHoarding> Nah, the government is more scary than Discord.

20:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> And "I have nothing to hide" is a dangerous argument

20:37 <ADragonHoarding> I'm more worried about the IRS going corrupt than Discord.

20:37 <LunaticHell> Government is scary, indeed.

20:37 <ADragonHoarding> It's not that I have nothign to hide

20:37 <ADragonHoarding> It's that Discord doesn't know what I have to hid

20:37 <ADragonHoarding> *hide

20:37 <LunaticHell> There are two major princaples in the western free world.

20:37 <ADragonHoarding> *principles

20:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> I dunno. Many of the things I say on Teamspeak should rather not be in the hand of a company

20:38 <LunaticHell> First: you own YOURSELF. Very important such wow

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20:39 <Schism> No gods or kings, only man.

20:39 <LunaticHell> Exactly.

20:39 <ADragonHoarding> I treat any voice chat thing like I do a phone.

20:39 <ADragonHoarding> Someone could be listening to this.

20:39 * Schism boops LunaticHell with a vial of EVE.

20:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> But they don't have to

20:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> There are free and open alternatives

20:39 <ADragonHoarding> I still don't understand the core problem.

20:40 <LunaticHell> And second and listen closely here

20:40 <LunaticHell> Rights are not granted by government, but just aknowledged.

20:41 <LunaticHell> You don't have the right to be alive because the government gave it to you, you own this right from craddle to grave and government only aknowledges that you do.

20:43 * LunaticHell boops Schism with a fask of bronko.

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20:44 * Schism is just sipping diet cola. o3o

20:44 <LunaticHell> ADragonHoarding: that makes sense, right?

20:44 <ADragonHoarding> yes but it doesn't feel related

20:45 <LunaticHell> as opposed to?

20:46 <SunsetShimmer> this is all perspective based anyway, there's no real way to change how we each see it fundementally

20:46 <ADragonHoarding> to what the problem is with Discord

20:46 <ADragonHoarding> which I still don't understand the fundamental issue

20:46 <LunaticHell> oh

20:47 <Starlight_Glimmer> Using a centralized system that gives too much power to a single entity is the issue.

20:47 <LunaticHell> ok hol up, I am really drunk so I am the best judge of what is going on

20:48 <ADragonHoarding> clearly.

20:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> Because that inherently creates abuse potential

20:48 <ADragonHoarding> yes, I could see that. But Discord is only one thing used.

20:48 <ADragonHoarding> It is not a monopoly in any sense.

20:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> It almost is by now

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20:48 <LunaticHell> As you can see by the tengent I went on, but yes, leaving the power to a single entetiy without oversight will do that

20:48 <SunsetShimmer> Skype is arguably more of the issue than discord

20:48 <LunaticHell> Power corrupts

20:49 <ADragonHoarding> I use many avenues of communication.

20:49 <SunsetShimmer> I'm not sure why you're taking this straight into a communications venue, LunaticHell

20:49 <SunsetShimmer> seems like a weird logic stumble

20:49 <ADragonHoarding> e-mail, phone, discord, irc, skype, ICQ, etc.

20:49 <Starlight_Glimmer> Well sure

20:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> But gaming wise they're building a monopoly

20:50 <SunsetShimmer> you're online - EVERYTHING you use is suspect

20:50 <LunaticHell> to be fair, I am drunk

20:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> Skype is a pretty bad solution for ingame communication

20:50 <ADragonHoarding> yes.

20:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> Mumble is pretty much dead

20:50 <SunsetShimmer> it's not the only option either

20:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> Which leaves Teamspeak

20:50 <ADragonHoarding> Discord provides a good service.

20:50 <SunsetShimmer> many games have inbuilt

20:51 <SunsetShimmer> discord IS nice

20:51 <ADragonHoarding> I have used it on occasion for gaming chat.

20:51 <LunaticHell> Teamspeak, as far as I remember, is good on recourses

20:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> Ingame VoIP on PC is not competitive

20:51 <LunaticHell> Unless you play counterstrike

20:51 <LunaticHell> Which I used to do

20:51 <LunaticHell> Since 1.6

20:52 <Starlight_Glimmer> Enough to throw a few insults are you team mates or to talk to strangers

20:52 <LunaticHell> You know it

20:52 <Starlight_Glimmer> You don't use in-game VoIP for usually with people you know

20:52 <ADragonHoarding> See I kind of get the sense of what your concern is but I treated Discord like a public forum anyway, and the moment I have to pay for it I'm making do without

20:52 <Starlight_Glimmer> (on PC)

20:53 <LunaticHell> I once rushed on oil rig as VIP as last suvivor

20:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> You'll probably never have to pay for Discord

20:53 <LunaticHell> And won

20:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> Outside of stuff like cosmetics

20:53 <ADragonHoarding> If ads become a thing I'll either ignore them, find a way to kill them, or again, do without

20:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> And that's the danger

20:53 <ADragonHoarding> and everything I give to Discord is public anyway.

20:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> We've lost the idea that there is no duch thing as free beer

20:53 <LunaticHell> My friend was the enemy and he was on lookout, armed with an AWP

20:53 <LunaticHell> I rished him with a pistol

20:53 <LunaticHell> rushed*

20:54 <Starlight_Glimmer> If you act upon that ADragonHoarding cool

20:54 <LunaticHell> He didn't manage to hit me

20:54 <Starlight_Glimmer> But I'm afraid most people don't

20:54 <ADragonHoarding> Sure

20:54 <Starlight_Glimmer> When a female friend asked me to fix a thing on her computer I opened her browser

20:54 <ADragonHoarding> But I don't see how that leads to Discord being evil

20:54 <LunaticHell> Wait

20:55 <LunaticHell> Glimmy, you got female friends?

20:55 <LunaticHell> I envy you so hard right now.

20:55 <ADragonHoarding> The only truly private stuff is the stuff I don't tell anyone.

20:55 <Starlight_Glimmer> She had FB open on a private conversation with her boyfriend  

20:55 <ADragonHoarding> (I don't use FB either, that community is toxic)

20:55 <Starlight_Glimmer> 3 words are all I read from that message not even realizing what was open

20:55 <LunaticHell> I cannot get any friends

20:55 <Starlight_Glimmer> All I needed to know

20:56 <LunaticHell> I should try being less weird

20:56 <LunaticHell> but meh

20:56 <LunaticHell> to much of an effort

20:56 <Starlight_Glimmer> When I told her I closed that tab she blushed

20:57 <LunaticHell> cool story, glim <3

20:57 <ADragonHoarding> (this is why at my job part of the required script is "make sure any private files or documents are closed" before we start a remote session)

20:57 <LunaticHell> I give a "why am I still alive" out of 10

20:58 <Starlight_Glimmer> And I asked her when she was so ashamed that even I who had way naughtier conversations with her read that message why she was sharing it with him over a platform selling her data potentially keeping that message forever

20:58 <LunaticHell> That sentense was way too long and complicated

20:59 <LunaticHell> APOLOGISE right now, Glimmer Glammer

20:59 <ADragonHoarding> yes, don't DM your SO on FB.

20:59 <Starlight_Glimmer> Imagine FB suffers a data breach

20:59 <LunaticHell> That would be hell

21:00 <Starlight_Glimmer> And don't tell me that's impossible because loot at Equifax

21:00 <ADragonHoarding> yes.

21:00 <Starlight_Glimmer> look*

21:00 <LunaticHell> Potentially millions of dollars in loss

21:00 <ADragonHoarding> I mentioned I don't use FB.

21:00 <LunaticHell> And that is an UNDERSTATEMENT, to be honest

21:00 <ADragonHoarding> Please explain why this makes Discord evil.

21:00 <Starlight_Glimmer> Because it's basically the same thing as FB

21:00 <ADragonHoarding> Or why the actual solution isn't to teach people how to keep shit private.

21:01 <LunaticHell> Yes

21:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2398 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7e2ch2p ]

21:01 <LunaticHell> It's simple

21:01 <Starlight_Glimmer> Teaching people is a great idea, but in reality it doesn't work

21:01 <LunaticHell> teech people how to handle data

21:01 <LunaticHell> Job done.

21:01 <ADragonHoarding> And boycotting FB and Discord is realistc.

21:02 <Starlight_Glimmer> Well at the very least it keeps my information out of it

21:02 <ADragonHoarding> But you're not using it, and I'm using it responsibly

21:02 <Schism> I personally can't stand Facebook.  *shrug*  I don't mind Discord, though, because I don't do anything private on it.

21:03 <ADragonHoarding> Teamspeak is fine but it's voicechat only.

21:03 <LunaticHell> okie dokie lokie

21:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> The problem is: If things continue in the direction they're going now you might not be able to opt out much longer

21:03 <ADragonHoarding> Discord offers searchable archives and that's the POINT OF USING IT for what I use it for

21:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> I already have problems staying away from FB

21:03 <ADragonHoarding> I don't!

21:03 <LunaticHell> Thing go in a unified direction

21:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> Because people more or less try to force you to use WhatsApp

21:03 <ADragonHoarding> People know I can't be contacted there.

21:04 <SunsetShimmer> I've...never used whatsapp

21:04 <SunsetShimmer> or had to

21:04 <LunaticHell> Tiamat

21:04 <LunaticHell> this is how technologie progresses, nowerdays

21:04 <Starlight_Glimmer> I imagine SunsetShimmer it's a regional issue

21:04 <LunaticHell> I supposed

21:04 <ADragonHoarding> So the solution is to ... just not use it, and if pressed, explain why, but if people want to use a service and are aware of the pitfalls of doing so...

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21:05 <Schism> Now, you want some really evil acts, you need to learn about how some companies are putting scripts on their webpages to force their users to mine cryptocurrencies.

21:05 <Starlight_Glimmer> Most people I know pretty much dropped SMS entirely in favor of WhatsApp

21:05 <LunaticHell> Koop!

21:05 <ADragonHoarding> NoScript

21:05 <Schism> NoScript is of the good, yes.

21:05 <ADragonHoarding> done deal, can't mine my processor.

21:05 <Starlight_Glimmer> And I get it: Carriers charged up to 20 cents per message

21:05 <Starlight_Glimmer> Still do

21:05 <LunaticHell> I am dead inside, yay.

21:05 <Starlight_Glimmer> Of course people seek out a cheaper solution

21:05 <ADragonHoarding> Yep, that's the market in action, love it or hate it.

21:06 <LunaticHell> Yeah

21:06 <ADragonHoarding> I know I'm the product.

21:06 <LunaticHell> Oh

21:06 <LunaticHell> Tiamat

21:06 <LunaticHell> a second, if you please?

21:06 <ADragonHoarding> So I define what I am.

21:06 <LunaticHell> Just a lil thing?

21:06 <Starlight_Glimmer> And to give FB some credit they implemented end-to-end encryption. With weaknesses and of course they're still collecting other data like your address book, but at least it's a start

21:06 <ADragonHoarding> I use Discord because it is useful to me. I don't use FB because it isn't useful to me.

21:07 <LunaticHell> You reading me?

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21:07 <ADragonHoarding> When something's use no longer outweighs it's inconvenience, I cease to use it.

21:07 <ADragonHoarding> Hi Lunatic, what you need?

21:07 <Librarian> lunatic!

21:07 <Librarian> long time no see owo

21:07 <LunaticHell> Today I talked about the most important difference between com and cap.

21:07 <LunaticHell> also hi Librarian

21:08 <ADragonHoarding> between what and what

21:08 <LunaticHell> com: seize the means of production cap: the means of productions belong to you

21:08 <ADragonHoarding> communism and capitalism?

21:08 <Starlight_Glimmer> Discord, and you're right in that regard, is in the grand scheme of things the smallest issue

21:08 <LunaticHell> But here is the knacker

21:09 <LunaticHell> the most basic means of production is: you

21:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> But we're loosing ownership of our data. And that is a worrying trend

21:09 <LunaticHell> yourself

21:09 <LunaticHell> com: you belong to the state cap: you belong to yourself

21:09 <ADragonHoarding> And how would you suggest fixing that, Glim?

21:09 <SunsetShimmer> It may already be too late anyway, if you look at the big pictures

21:10 * ADragonHoarding reiterates question

21:10 <LunaticHell> Librarian: how do you do?

21:10 <Librarian> quite good

21:10 <LunaticHell> Nice.

21:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> Well I personally use free software wherever possible and host all services myself while not relying on 3rd parties to protect my data

21:10 <LunaticHell> Very nice, indeed.

21:11 <ADragonHoarding> And I personally don't offer information that doesn't need to be offered to people who don't need it.

21:11 <Starlight_Glimmer> And when you use 3rd party services choose one in a competitive marketplace. Pay for it if you really value it.

21:11 <LunaticHell> Librarian: I should psysically be dead by now. haha

21:11 <Librarian> why?

21:12 <ADragonHoarding> So.

21:12 <LunaticHell> Alcohol poisoning.

21:12 <ADragonHoarding> I'm not seeing much I need to do different.

21:13 <Starlight_Glimmer> (And by free I meant as in freedom of speech, not as in free beer)

21:13 <LunaticHell> There are two things to note her, Glimmer and Tiamat.

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21:13 <ADragonHoarding> ...because Freedom of Speech was a concern with Discord.

21:13 <LunaticHell> First: if you allow your government or company to use a powerful tool: they will do it.

21:14 <Starlight_Glimmer> Uh you got that wrong

21:14 <ADragonHoarding> Clearly I'm misunderstanding something

21:14 <Starlight_Glimmer> When one says free as in freedom of speech they mean Open Source software

21:14 <LunaticHell> Second: even if you legally forbid them of using it: they'll do it

21:14 <ADragonHoarding> possibly what you actually mean by Free

21:14 <LunaticHell> What will you do?

21:14 <ADragonHoarding> No, I'm pretty sure that's not what "one" means

21:14 <ADragonHoarding> that's what you mean

21:15 <ADragonHoarding> But that's not at all what that means in common parlance

21:15 <Starlight_Glimmer> It's a quite common expression

21:15 <ADragonHoarding> Uh huh.

21:15 <ADragonHoarding> First I've heard of it, at least.

21:15 <LunaticHell> Free?

21:15 <ADragonHoarding> Mostly I've heard people refer to Open Source as ...

21:15 <ADragonHoarding> Open Source.

21:15 <LunaticHell> There are two kinds of free, Starlight_Glimmer

21:15 <ADragonHoarding> Open Source is awesome, keep politics out of it, plox.

21:16 <Starlight_Glimmer> https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/31717/what-do-the-phrases-free-speech-vs.-free-beer-really-mean/

21:16 <Starlight_Glimmer> Quite literally the first result

21:16 <LunaticHell> Free as in: you don't have to pay for this beer and "free" as in noone will stop you if you do it.

21:16 <ADragonHoarding> first result of what search

21:16 <Starlight_Glimmer> It's very common to qualify free in that way

21:17 <LunaticHell> Did I do it right or wrong?

21:17 <ADragonHoarding> First result of what search

21:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> "free as in freedom of speech"

21:17 <ADragonHoarding> common in a specific community, it appears

21:17 <ADragonHoarding> outside of that community, no.

21:18 <Starlight_Glimmer> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre#.22Free_beer.22_vs_.22free_speech.22_distinction

21:18 <ADragonHoarding> I no longer care.

21:18 <LunaticHell> Her "Are you free on Wednesday?" Him "I'm american, I'm always free" *bald eagle in background*

21:18 <LunaticHell> hold up

21:19 <LunaticHell> hoooold up

21:19 * LunaticHell pokes Starlight_Glimmer

21:19 <LunaticHell> Isn't it like the diffrence between "no cost" and "no restrictions"?

21:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> Not exaclty

21:20 <LunaticHell> Would you mind explaining it to drunken me?

21:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> Open Source software often does come with restrictions

21:21 <Starlight_Glimmer> One very common and strong restriction is the requirement to publish under the same terms as the original work

21:22 <LunaticHell> Like if you would republish the work and put a "non open-source" sticker on it?

21:22 <LunaticHell> brb

21:23 <LunaticHell> dying on the inside and smoking on the balcony

21:23 <Starlight_Glimmer> More like you have to make all the source code available under the same license as the original work if you want to publish a derivative work

21:23 <ADragonHoarding> use the same license or you can't republish is a default clause in the most common open-source licenses to my knowledge

21:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> Well I don't know if I'd quantify that in that way

21:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> But yes the GPL is very well known for that clause

21:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> The BSD license for example however does not include anything like that

21:26 <Starlight_Glimmer> And the BSD license family is also very popular

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21:37 * Schism flops before Filly_Nightmares, nomming upon macaroni and cheese with tuna.

21:38 * Filly_Nightmares sniffs Schism and eeeeeeeeees

21:51 <Schism> Tuna an' mushroom soup an' garlic.

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22:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Cosplay Compilation #76 [ http://tinyurl.com/yagvemwz ]

22:01 * Filly_Nightmares noms Schism

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22:19 <CleverDerpy> derp?

22:20 <Schism> Wurp.

22:26 <Finwe> o3o

22:26 <Finwe> Lt Cdr CleverDerpy, Mr Schism, Miss Filly_Nightmares.

22:26 * Finwe doffs his hat.

22:27 * Finwe also salutes.

22:27 <CleverDerpy> Quickly, does anyone have a very simple pony drawing made by a kid?

22:27 <CleverDerpy> the reason i am asking is cuz i was gonna do an expriement

22:27 * Filly_Nightmares nibbles on Finwe

22:28 * Finwe noms on Filly_Nightmares.

22:29 * Bubble-Berry Sentai poses at CleverDerpy

22:29 <CleverDerpy> ?

22:30 <Bubble-Berry> You know, those big dramatic poses Sentai teams do after transforming! With the explosion in the background?

22:31 * Filly_Nightmares grabs Finwe's tongue

22:33 <CleverDerpy> oooh, ok

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22:34 * Filly_Nightmares floofsplodes at Bubble-Berry

22:35 * Bubble-Berry boops Filly_Nightmares nosie

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22:35 * Filly_Nightmares chews on Bubble-Berry's hoof and wears FreezeFrame as a hat

22:36 * Finwe mumbles incomprehensibly, his tongue being stretched by a Filly_Nightmares.

22:37 * Filly_Nightmares purrrrrrrrrs and kneads Finwe's tongue

22:37 * Finwe tongue-wiggles.

22:37 <Finwe> !plot

22:37 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*

22:37 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*

22:37 * Filly_Nightmares wigglewaggles

22:37 * Filly_Nightmares rubs Finwe's tongue with her floof and floofles

22:39 * Ali tries to boop CleverDerpy

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22:44 * Schism boops the Ali with a chocolate-covered rice krispie treat!

22:44 * Ali squeakyflails

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22:51 <Thelema5> Hi everypony!

22:51 <Thelema5> Fun episode today.

22:52 <Tirek> I got an inkwell.

22:52 <Tirek> https://i.imgur.com/jR496ar.png

22:52 <Thelema5> The movie special is airing in 7 minutes

22:53 <Thelema5> That's really nice, Tirek!

22:54 * Filly_Nightmares licks Thelema5

22:54 <Tirek> I thought so too. I filled 'er up with blue ink, and I'll be using it with my dragon pen.

22:55 * Filly_Nightmares snuggles Tirek

22:56 <Thelema5> Anypony else watching the movie special?

22:56 * Filly_Nightmares hats on Thelema5

22:58 <Tirek> I'm not too interested.

22:58 * Schism then boops the Finwe with a karjalanpiirakka.

22:59 * Filly_Nightmares noses Schism for a food

22:59 * Schism boops the Filly_Nightmares with a bowl of lemon ice!

23:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Shard 15 / Sable 68 / Revenge 6 / Timey 92 / Arrival 15 / Spite 6 / Reality 60 / Worth 2:23 / Rye 2:17 / Lonely 2:85 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybye9g6m ]

23:00 * Filly_Nightmares noms the bowl and wears the lemon ice as a hat. She eeeeeeees at Schism!

23:02 * Schism eees back, and considers, then also offers Filly_Nightmares a plate of wienerschnitzel!

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23:05 <SuperSkullz> Hello, this is some guy who is looking at the probability of how much longer this thing can continue if going by the financial standpoint

23:06 <SuperSkullz> if anyone wonders

23:07 <SuperSkullz> it's been looking bleak

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23:08 <SuperSkullz> first off, besides YouTube, no promotion

23:09 <SuperSkullz> this is despite Lionsgate being the distributor

23:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/fallout-1-celebrates-20th-anniversary-is-now-totally-free-to-own-on-steam/

23:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> Until midnight Pacific Time

23:10 <SuperSkullz> in case your wondering, i'm the guy who has given financial data

23:11 <SuperSkullz> on this chatroom once

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23:16 <ADragonHoarding> ...what thing

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23:24 <SuperSkullz> MLP

23:24 <ADragonHoarding> K.

23:24 <ADragonHoarding> Majority of monetary rewards comes from the toy line.

23:24 <SuperSkullz> yeah

23:25 <ADragonHoarding> Health of the toy line is a direct contributor to health of the show.

23:25 <SuperSkullz> apparently, the toys aren't doing that well

23:25 <ADragonHoarding> Granted I haven't looked at either from a financial standpoint anyway so whatev.

23:25 <SuperSkullz> i did and it doesn't look pretty

23:25 <ADragonHoarding> K.

23:27 <SuperSkullz> the last time MLP was mentioned on the Financial Reports were all the way back to Quarter 4 2015

23:28 <SuperSkullz> and those reports were in declines

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23:30 <Pony|26641> Good night all

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23:31 <ADragonHoarding> Leaving so soon?

23:31 <Jahnesta> :D

23:31 <Jahnesta> No, but it's night here

23:31 <Jahnesta> :3

23:31 <ADragonHoarding> Ah.

23:31 <ADragonHoarding> "Good night" isn't used as a greeting really.

23:31 <Jahnesta> What's up?

23:32 <ADragonHoarding> More a farewell.

23:32 <Jahnesta> I know, I was being silly x3

23:32 <ADragonHoarding> ah

23:32 <SuperSkullz> anyway, i found the 2nd quarter 2017 report

23:32 <Jahnesta> What's that?

23:33 <SuperSkullz> it mentions MLP, though not in the financial sense talking about how its prepared for the film

23:33 <SuperSkullz> Hasbro's financial report

23:33 <Jahnesta> No spoilers!

23:33 <Jahnesta> :0

23:33 <Jahnesta> I've seen too much already!

23:34 <SuperSkullz> its just me talking about the financial data

23:35 <SuperSkullz> actually it was from before the report i think, anyway

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23:37 <SuperSkullz> and Entertainment and Licensing is not making money for them around this time

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23:39 <SuperSkullz> so it doesn't look that great

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23:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> I wonder where they take their information from

23:40 <LunaticHell> I am back

23:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> Because looking at the reports myself I can see no decline what so ever

23:40 * LunaticHell boops CleverDerpy

23:40 <LunaticHell> What I missed?

23:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> Not MLP anyway

23:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> not for*

23:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> Transformers and LPS apparently didn't grow in 2016

23:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> But that still doesn't mean Hasbro isn't performing well

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23:43 <LunaticHell> o. o

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23:44 <LunaticHell> I just failed at a task >. >

23:44 *** Pony|30786 is now known as ThatAnonPony

23:45 <LunaticHell> "Listening to Clannad's credits song after having seen the anime and not crying at least a bit"

23:45 <LunaticHell> I didn't say it was an easy task

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23:46 * LunaticHell sobs at The_Nostalgia_Mare

23:46 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> ...

23:46 <Jahnesta> I have never actually seen an anime before..

23:46 <Jahnesta> :P

23:46 <LunaticHell> That's fine by me.

23:46 <LunaticHell> You'll find something for you, one day.

23:47 <LunaticHell> It's like ice cream

23:47 <Jahnesta> But if I find and like one, I'll officially be a nerd! 🤓

23:47 <LunaticHell> You don't dislike ice cream, you haven't found your flavour, yet.

23:47 <LunaticHell> Not really.

23:48 <Jahnesta> I'm a bit

23:48 <LunaticHell> You're not a nerd for watching dragon ball z

23:48 <Jahnesta> A bit

23:48 <Jahnesta> A bit

23:48 <Jahnesta> A bit

23:48 <Jahnesta> Sorry

23:48 <LunaticHell> Three bits?

23:48 <Jahnesta> I'm laggy

23:48 <LunaticHell> A laggy bit, then?

23:48 <Jahnesta> I'm a big fan of banana flavor!

23:48 <LunaticHell> Neat.

23:48 <Jahnesta> Phew, that's out!

23:48 <LunaticHell> For context

23:48 <LunaticHell> this is the song

23:48 <LunaticHell> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP777CeUxXs

23:49 <Jahnesta> But bananas is my favorite fruit anyway

23:49 <Jahnesta> Are

23:49 <Jahnesta> ^^

23:49 <LunaticHell> cool

23:49 <LunaticHell> Bananas are tasty.

23:49 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I'm back from movie.

23:49 <Jahnesta> Hush!

23:49 <Jahnesta> Hush hush hush!

23:50 <Jahnesta> I do not want to see a SINGLE thing about that movie anymore!

23:50 <Jahnesta> And hearing counts too!!

23:50 <Jahnesta> 3:<

23:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> Jahnesta: Wait. Isn't internet supposed to be off now for you? :3

23:50 <Jahnesta> Good eye!

23:51 <Jahnesta> But I'm somewhere else now

23:51 <Jahnesta> :3

23:51 <Jahnesta> Where they are normal about WiFi

23:52 * Jahnesta Snuggles Starlight_Glimmer

23:53 <Jahnesta> I'll be back in 21:24

23:53 <Jahnesta> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LslBtE_f-wk

23:53 <Jahnesta> :D

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23:58 * Starlight_Glimmer draws a circle