00:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Followup Interview on BBC Brony Mini-Report [ http://tinyurl.com/ycq2h2tf ]
00:13 <Schism> Thelema5: Ring around the rosie?
00:13 * Schism puts on a Plague Doctor's mask.
00:14 <Schism> (I know, that's just apocryphal urban legends.)
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00:43 <Schism> "Ties. What manner of sapient came up with ties...?" "Fashionable Noose, a pony designer of some repute." "Oh. Is that pony still alive?" "No."
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01:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Rainbow Dash Sporty Beach Fashion Equestria Girls Mini Listed on Amazon [ http://tinyurl.com/ybxpqgz7 ]
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01:26 <Schism> Hmmm, some ponies know how to use the truth like a whip. Like Lady Applejack Malus of House Rosaceae.
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01:46 <DashedRainbows> Welcome back Thelema5
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02:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1250 [ http://tinyurl.com/y72pqog3 ]
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02:25 * CleverDerpy wiggles
02:27 <DashedRainbows> How's it going?
02:27 <CleverDerpy> well, a bit better than yesterday
02:28 <DashedRainbows> That's good
02:28 * Schism hugs the CleverDerpy, and this time offers some hoofprint cookies! They're like thumbprint cookies, but much larger, and filled with apple preserves.
02:29 * CleverDerpy noms the muffins and hugs Schism
02:32 * DashedRainbows hugs the CleverDerpy. Sigh
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02:52 <Librarian> Is anyone good with photoshop?
02:53 <Librarian> i could use help with editing something
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03:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: ExplodingPonyToast, LutariFan & ThatMusicBrony - Start Again (ThatMusicBrony VIP) [Future Bass] [ http://tinyurl.com/y8spl9ko ]
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03:15 * Schism splorfs at this statement. 'Dracula didn't want to drink Harker's blood, folks! Dracula was just trying to avoid paying his lawyer. ...my clients and Dracula have a lot in common, come to think of it.'
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03:22 <DashedRainbows> !plot
03:22 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
03:22 <Schism> *wigglewiggle*
03:22 <DashedRainbows> *wigglewiggle*
03:22 <Divide> *wigglewiggle*
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03:33 <DashedRainbows> !link
03:33 <DerpyBot> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw - In the Navy
03:34 <DashedRainbows> That's a bust
03:40 <CleverDerpy> *points to a priceless statue sculpted of a pony from the mid chest up* "no, that... is a bust..."
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03:40 <CleverDerpy> leonieghdo Derpvinci made that
03:41 <DashedRainbows> Yup
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03:42 <CleverDerpy> no, he was not a genetically enhanced assassin adolescent tortoise...
03:42 <DashedRainbows> No, he was a pony
03:44 <CleverDerpy> long before earth ponies found the crafting art of airships, he invented a device that could fly using earth ponies' strong legs to peddle a device that would keep them air borne
03:44 <CleverDerpy> unfortunately, the design wasn't good aerodynamically and was never really shall we say, "took off?"
03:45 * CleverDerpy squees
03:45 <CleverDerpy> derpy loves art, and studying it is fun~
03:46 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> CleverDerpy, Remember.
03:46 <DashedRainbows> Yes art can be fun
03:47 * Schism notes to CleverDerpy, "Is he perhaps related to Leonard da Quirm?"
03:47 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Education is Power, Joy is vulnerability, CleverDerpy.
03:48 <Schism> He created a transport which could be submerged, in a marine environment, and thus thoughtfully called it a 'Going-Under-The-Water-Safely Device'.
03:59 <DashedRainbows> I love the moral of this episode. Don't trust contractors.
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04:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: MLP Belt Buckles and More Listed on Buckle Down [ http://tinyurl.com/y9flecfh ]
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04:19 <DashedRainbows> Who knew ponies grew up? Not Rarity
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04:22 <KooK> Harble
04:25 <DashedRainbows> Harble
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04:30 <DashedRainbows> I don't think you ever out grow ice cream
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04:32 * Thelema5 just ate some pistacchio almond ice cream
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04:36 <DashedRainbows> Twisty X Rarity
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04:41 <DashedRainbows> Scootaloo is so smart.
04:43 <Thelema5> Evidence?
04:48 <DashedRainbows> She slingshoted to Cloudsdale without dying
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04:48 <Schism> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f7/80/39/f78039c51ca9c7f8695c6c832efc272f.png
04:49 <Schism> Alternately: http://ponyderivative.com/images/images/cmc-angry-birds.png
04:49 <DashedRainbows> Wing hands and bath time
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04:52 <DashedRainbows> How does Scootaloo know all this?
04:55 <DashedRainbows> Wing fingers 0.o
05:01 <DashedRainbows> Dashie is so cute
05:03 <DashedRainbows> Big Mac X Sugar Belle
05:03 <DashedRainbows> So much shipping this season
05:09 <CleverDerpy> derp?
05:09 <DashedRainbows> Hey
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05:12 <DashedRainbows> Feather Bangs is just ridiculous
05:18 <Thelema5> YEs
05:18 <Thelema5> He gets all the fillies though
05:21 <DashedRainbows> That face
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05:36 <Thelema5> I don't even know if I can bring myself to go in to work tomorrow
05:37 <Thelema5> There is practically no constructive reason for it; I'm just undoing work I've already done
05:40 <KooK> yawnage
05:40 <KooK> I can't sleep
05:41 <Thelema5> Me either
05:41 <Thelema5> I'm too stressed
05:41 <KooK> I found somebody, after so many years and years, I found somebody I want to be with. And they're married...
05:41 <Thelema5> Ugh, that's the worst.
05:41 <KooK> Thelema5, let's both just stay in our beds tomorrow
05:42 <Thelema5> I hope you don't have the idea that you'll somehow break them up
05:42 <KooK> Hell yes that idea has been running through my head for weeks :D
05:42 <CleverDerpy> holy mother of celestia
05:42 <KooK> haha
05:43 <KooK> I know, it's not a good idea
05:43 <CleverDerpy> I just checked my most viewed work
05:43 <CleverDerpy> it's over 7k on one work
05:43 <Thelema5> Not cool. Be there in case something does happen... but if you act to disrupt the relationship it'll come back to haunt you both
05:43 <Ali> CleverDerpy must be a good artist or something.
05:43 <KooK> Granted
05:43 <Thelema5> CleverDerpy is very clever
05:44 <Thelema5> which work is it, CleverDerpy?
05:46 <KooK> Either way, I'm picking up my motorcycle in 2 weeks so at least I got that going for me
05:46 <CleverDerpy> I dun think I can share here, it's kinda... not safe for woona
05:46 <KooK> If I can't have love, I'm just going to buy things :D
05:46 <Thelema5> Ooooh, new motorcycle? What's it like?
05:46 <Thelema5> Fair enough CleverDerpy
05:46 <KooK> Thelema5, you wouldn't approve of this bike
05:47 <CleverDerpy> it's just weird
05:47 <Thelema5> I don't force my perspective on others
05:47 <CleverDerpy> I had no idea anything I did would get 7k
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05:47 <CleverDerpy> no matter what it was
05:47 <KooK> I had one before about 5 years ago, actually I might have been in this chat when I sold it. This one I'm getting is a bit differen tthough.
05:47 <CleverDerpy> and on one of my websites, I also got almost 700k views total
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05:48 <CleverDerpy> which is 7k short of it now, acutally
05:48 <Thelema5> Wow!
05:48 <CleverDerpy> and that means I got 3 7s... do I win da jackpot?
05:48 <CleverDerpy> but if my math is correct, that puts me only 300k short of 1 million hits
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05:49 <Thelema5> My most viewed thing was a hiking video that got 1.3K views and I thought that was alot XD
05:49 <DashedRainbows> On days like this I wonder why am I here
05:49 <KooK> Long story short, it's the last year they made motorcycles that were "Unrestricted," aka this one can do 200+ mph
05:49 <CleverDerpy> cuz you get free muffins and pettings
05:49 * CleverDerpy gives him a free muffin and pets
05:49 <Thelema5> That's insanely fast, KooK
05:50 <KooK> Ah, I guess
05:50 <Thelema5> I like having you here, DashedRainbows
05:50 <CleverDerpy> you're a fast pone
05:50 * DashedRainbows sighs
05:50 <CleverDerpy> Thelema5 likes you, derpy likes you too~
05:50 <Thelema5> I don't have many friends
05:50 <CleverDerpy> you have earned a place in our pony hearts~
05:50 <DashedRainbows> I have no idea why
05:50 <DashedRainbows> I'm always so moody
05:51 <CleverDerpy> my father told me some wise words
05:51 <Thelema5> Nah, you're just honest
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05:51 <Thelema5> Most people are full of horseapples
05:51 <DashedRainbows> Honesty hasn't done much for me
05:52 <CleverDerpy> he said "now derp, sometimes it's not what you say that counts, it's what you aim to be, and you can tell it's working if people respect you genuinely for it.
05:52 <DashedRainbows> Hmm, that is wise
05:52 <CleverDerpy> you don't have to say a word, but when you speak, you choose the words that easily make you a favorite around here, derpy likes you lots
05:53 <CleverDerpy> remember, genuine means no fake liking, from either side, they genuinely feel you are just a good pone
05:54 * Thelema5 huggles the DashedRainbows
05:54 * CleverDerpy huggles the DashedRainbows too!
05:54 <DashedRainbows> Anyway, my head hurts, so I'll be going. Thanks
05:54 <Thelema5> Feel better!
05:54 <CleverDerpy> get well soon~
05:54 <CleverDerpy> I like dat pone
05:54 * CleverDerpy sits and derps
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06:01 <Thelema5> Sometimes its hard to keep going, to keep staying the course. I can feel depression creeping back in because of my job situation, but I am determined to not let it affect me
06:01 <Thelema5> I've been on the positive side of that monster for 3 years now, I really want to keep it at bay
06:01 * CleverDerpy gives Thelema5 a muffin and nuzzles her, snuggling next to her
06:02 <Thelema5> Thanks, CleverDerpy. You're a good friend
06:02 * CleverDerpy purrs
06:02 <CleverDerpy> Thelema5 has been there for derpy
06:02 <CleverDerpy> derpy needs to be there for Thelema5
06:03 <CleverDerpy> it's not rock science
06:03 * Thelema5 sniffles a bit
06:03 <CleverDerpy> it's just wub~
06:03 <CleverDerpy> why is Thelema5 crying?
06:04 * CleverDerpy tries to lick away the tears
06:04 <CleverDerpy> you're good pone, you'll be oki~
06:04 <Thelema5> I'm losing my job in a few days, I've never been unenployed, and the situation makes me feel helpless, and useless, and scared
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06:05 <CleverDerpy> derpy knows da feeling, she lost her mailmare job years ago
06:05 * Thelema5 nods
06:05 <CleverDerpy> but das oki, she is still here,
06:05 <CleverDerpy> even if things da baddles, derpy will do what it takes to make Thelema5 feel goodles~
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06:06 <Thelema5> Thanksies
06:06 <KooK> Thelema5 https://imgur.com/a/otPV4
06:06 <KooK> That's my old one, basically the same thing, different colors
06:06 <CleverDerpy> it's probably not derpy's business, but why are you leaving?
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06:06 <Thelema5> I applied for work with another company but I haven't heard back. Even if I did I'll die if I have to go through an interview process and everything
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06:07 <Thelema5> CleverDerpy, I'm not leaving- the company is. Going out of business.
06:07 * CleverDerpy whimpers and tries to comfort Thelema5
06:07 <CleverDerpy> derpy is all weirdy feeling about this, get better soon
06:07 <Thelema5> KooK, that looks super futuristic
06:08 <DashedRainbows> Ugh
06:08 <CleverDerpy> you're back?! yay~
06:08 <DashedRainbows> Can't even sleep right now
06:09 <Thelema5> Same here. Been having bad dreams
06:09 <DashedRainbows> Wonder why my head hurts so much right now
06:09 <Thelema5> Could be the full moon?
06:09 * CleverDerpy whines
06:09 <CleverDerpy> derpy is sad for her friends!
06:09 <DashedRainbows> Is it today?
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06:10 * CleverDerpy offers herself as a pillow for Thelema5 and DashedRainbows
06:10 <Thelema5> CleverDerpy, don't be sad for me! I'll be okay. It'll just take some time to get my footing I guess.
06:10 <KooK> It's an 18 year old design, at least :D
06:10 <CleverDerpy> maybe you both need sleep
06:10 <CleverDerpy> sleep on da derp, she doesn't mind!
06:11 <DashedRainbows> Honestly, as long as I don't do anything that stupid again or have to go in again I'm ok
06:12 <CleverDerpy> Thelema5, derpy has been panicked all weekend, she just wants to be happy here,
06:12 <CleverDerpy> it's hard to feel that joy when everypony is so down
06:12 <DashedRainbows> Yeah
06:13 <DashedRainbows> That weekend was fun yet horrible
06:14 <CleverDerpy> please be good, derpy is all confuzzled and tired
06:14 <DashedRainbows> Yeah, I tend to be. So I guess I'll try to sleep again.
06:14 <Thelema5> CleverDerpy, I'm fine. Don't let yourself be troubled
06:15 * CleverDerpy hugs both and licks both on the cheek
06:15 <Thelema5> Life has problems, but then we move forward and surmount them.
06:15 <DashedRainbows> Yeah
06:16 * Thelema5 has people asking what he wants for his birthday- and he doesn't really have a good answer. That speaks volumes
06:17 <DashedRainbows> Anyway I'll go try to get some sleep and let y'all enjoy the night. Have fun
06:17 <CleverDerpy> it's gotten to the point where if people ask me that, I just say money, cuz I can spend that any way I like
06:17 <Thelema5> G'night!
06:17 <CleverDerpy> Thelema5, when is your birthderp?
06:19 <Thelema5> A month from today
06:20 <Thelema5> But the important part to me is that I have people who care enough to ask
06:21 <Thelema5> Also that I am comfortable enough in my situation that I'm not sure what to tell them
06:21 <CleverDerpy> does that mean derpy is bad?
06:21 <CleverDerpy> for asking?
06:22 <Thelema5> Not one bit! I mean it's great that I have people in my life who care enough about me to ask me things like when my birthday is and what sort of things I might like
06:23 <CleverDerpy> derpy has an idea already~
06:23 <Thelema5> I've been totally alone before
06:23 <CleverDerpy> Thelema5 wants... cake~
06:23 <CleverDerpy> derpy will make a muffin cake~
06:23 <Thelema5> Cake is great, if you can keep Celestia from eating it!
06:23 <CleverDerpy> Thelema5 wants... a party~
06:24 <CleverDerpy> something nice but not too formal for Thelema5 or her guests~
06:24 <CleverDerpy> Thelema5 wants... presents~
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06:24 <CleverDerpy> so she can feel wanted and loved by the people around her, giving a purpose to the celebration outside of just being together, which is also a good present~
06:24 * Thelema5 would not be upset by a small party of friends. Presents are not needed
06:25 <CleverDerpy> is derpy right though?
06:25 * Thelema5 huggles CleverDerpy
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06:28 <Thelema5> I ate turnips for the first time today
06:29 <Thelema5> Not a vegetable I grew up with or was familiar with.
06:29 <Thelema5> But I read a bunch of recipes which called for it, so I included it in my meal...
06:30 <Thelema5> Love it. Will definately use it again.
06:30 <Thelema5> I love it when I can expand my personal worldview
06:35 <Heartbreak> Thelema5 you can also carve them for halloween.
06:35 <Heartbreak> And they look rather frightening.
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06:37 <Thelema5> So I've read
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06:42 <Thelema5> Are they a member of the Brasicae? Because that would make a lot of sense flavor/texture wise
06:43 * Thelema5 loves the Brassica
06:45 <Schism> Turnips are in fact a brassica. Turnip greens should make that clear!
06:47 <Thelema5> I've never grown them- only seem them in commerce
06:47 <Schism> Turnip greens are sold on their own, tho...
06:48 <Thelema5> Not that I've seen.
06:48 <Thelema5> They are much maligned in the US for some reason
06:48 <Schism> Northeast, maybe, but in central Ohio they were right there with other collard greens and the like.
06:49 <Thelema5> Weird. It's a totally new vegetable for me, coming out of the northeast
06:49 <Schism> Mind, if you don't know what you're looking at, this doesn't really look that appetizing. http://tinyurl.com/yd3d7v3y
06:50 <Schism> This does, tho. o3o https://granddiamondseasoning.com/images/uploads/Sauteed-Turnip-Greens_large.jpg Pancetta...!
06:51 <Thelema5> I think my older relatives liked the root, judging by their thanksgiving requests... but honestly it always seemed like a strange old-fashioned thing to me
06:52 <Thelema5> But for the record, I'm now a fan.
06:52 <Schism> Heck, slice and fry the turnips in fat. o3o
06:53 * Thelema5 has never met a Brassica he doesn't like
06:53 <Schism> Another variant of the brassica you may appreciate: mustard greens.
06:53 <Thelema5> Yus
06:53 <Schism> Oh, you've had those?
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06:54 <Thelema5> There's a jamacian restaurant in a nearby town which sells them simmered with hamhocks and other lovely things
06:55 * Schism nodnods!
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06:55 <Schism> What in the world--
06:55 <Schism> You know how 'zoom and enhance' is a ridiculous fantasy?
06:56 <Thelema5> yus?
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06:58 <Thelema5> but I have to skip out and go to bed because holy crap- I have be be alive and alert at my job in 7 hours. Sleep is required!
06:58 <Schism> http://letsenhance.io - This... is an interesting sort of thing.
07:01 <Schism> Anyhoo, sleep well!
07:01 <Thelema5> Thanksie
07:02 <Thelema5> goodnight!
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07:14 <Schism> This... is witchcraft. https://imgur.com/a/8cc62
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07:31 <Tirek> I tried using it.
07:31 <Tirek> Doesn't like Mr. Lightbulb Guy very much.
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07:42 <Schism> Ah, pity.
07:53 <Schism> Card mechanics are rare. Blind card mechanics are even rarer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwFIJyWKs1k
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08:11 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
08:11 <Tirek> Welcome.
08:15 <ConfusionRift> I is here, in tha no fun zone!
08:20 <Tirek> I got roped into a Pokemon Mystery Dungeon tabletop game.
08:20 <Tirek> It's gonna be interesting.
08:21 <ConfusionRift> "And by roped I mean they tied me to a chair and made me play it!"
08:21 <ConfusionRift> Just kidding. How is it?
08:21 <Tirek> I haven't played yet. We spent a few hours just kinda trying to figure out what the book wants us to do.
08:21 <Tirek> It's not very nicely organized.
08:21 <Tirek> It's gonna be played every Friday or Saturday.
08:22 <Tirek> Don't know which just yet.
08:22 <Tirek> The story is mostly focusing around one character, since the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series starts with you being born a human, but waking up one random day in another world as some random pokemon.
08:23 <Tirek> I decided to be a not once-human pokemon out of spite.
08:23 <Tirek> I also picked the least threatening looking beast I could for raughs.
08:23 <Tirek> So my character is Olimimi, a Buneary.
08:24 <Tirek> A flamboyant buneary, to be exact.
08:25 <ConfusionRift> "The most flamboyant... and the one with the highest strength. The heck is that all about?!" :P
08:25 <Tirek> Actually, nah, we're all weak pokemans in a lot of stats.
08:25 <Tirek> I'm the only one so far that isn't a starter.
08:26 <ConfusionRift> Should have gone for a Vanillish. No other Pokemon says EAT ME like that one.
08:26 <ConfusionRift> Normal conventions are kinda boring anyways.
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08:27 <Tirek> Actually, no, I dunno what the other player's gonna be yet.
08:29 <Tirek> But yeah, I'm not sure how this is going to go, I don't know anything about PMD aside from the protagonist was a human and now isn't.
08:29 <Schism> ...Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Koi ponds just a teensy bit expensive to create and maintain, and highly prized within Japanese culture?
08:30 <Tirek> I know nothing about that! :v
08:30 <Schism> Tirek: Good on you to play a non-human character. And Buneary is pretty awesome.
08:31 <Tirek> And can't evolve in the wild, usually!
08:31 <Tirek> Which, I didn't actually know until it was too late, whoops.
08:31 <Tirek> But I'm stickin' with it.
08:32 <ConfusionRift> Schism: By my understanding, they are VERY expensive overall.
08:32 <Schism> Tirek: That's fine, it evolves with high Friendship, which probably has some mechanic in the RPG.
08:32 <ConfusionRift> Not to mention the Koi pond has to run constantly and fluidly.
08:32 <Schism> ConfusionRift: When visiting the PM of Japan, Trump got bored and dumped a whole box of fish food into one such pond.
08:32 <Tirek> It has a mechanic in the core game, not the PMD supplement.
08:32 <Tirek> The core game has human trainers as PCs.
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08:34 <Schism> Yeah... ah. Buneary evolves based on IQ score in the PMD games.
08:34 <Tirek> Hm.
08:35 <Tirek> Neat. I dunno if that translates over into the PMD supplement.
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08:35 <Tirek> Both books are constructed in a way that utterly confused the hell out of me and they're a chore to read through because of how horribly unorganized they are.
08:35 <Tirek> Or, at least, I perceive them as unorganized.
08:38 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, the cheapest (decent) kit I see is about $100. That does not include the plants, fish, filter pads, and water costs. And that's for just fish. A Koi specific one can break bank easy. Oh, and you have to build the space and setup.
08:39 <Schism> ConfusionRift, yeah. These would be the koi at Akasaka Palace, so I'm going to go so far as to say that a koi pond which is more or less a national treasure costs a fair bit more.
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09:08 <Schism> Oh... oh god. https://xkcd.com/
09:14 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh. Oh goodness.
09:14 <Tirek> Ha.
09:20 <Schism> Reminds me of this one. https://xkcd.com/1084/
09:25 <Tirek> The problem when we computerize all of our things. No toaster is safe from the blue screen of death.
09:25 <Schism> Toasters will be used to mine for bitcoins, overheat, and burn all your toast.
09:26 <Tirek> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOgIHOtSZGo
09:26 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
09:26 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about i put spongebob music over that useless $400 juicer
09:27 <Tirek> Do you want some of this delicious FRUIT MEAT
09:28 <ConfusionRift> Yes. Let's make a very energy inefficient, expensive, and useless in its job toaster.
09:29 <Tirek> Or a Juicer with DRM fruit packs, because why not.
09:30 <ConfusionRift> "The Device Cannot Respond." | He, that's a lie. You just responded with an error.
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11:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1030 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycpaqg3b ]
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12:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Trixie Trixie Trixie [ http://tinyurl.com/ybgmu5g3 ]
12:07 <Cepheid> That the Juicer in that video?
12:07 <Cepheid> Er juicero
12:08 <Cepheid> Cause the guy that made it came out with a new product. Fresh-squeezed Spring water.
12:12 <Cepheid> I have an exam today I didn't study for.
12:12 <ConfusionRift> I just barely started watching it, and... wow.
12:13 <ConfusionRift> El Watero. A machine that squeezes water bottles into a cup, for your convenience.
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12:15 <ConfusionRift> "I have hundreds of questions, but I already know the answers to them. We can safely say that this is... uselesssssssss."
12:15 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:16 <Cepheid> He is banking on the stupidity of the people that fall for the non-GMO, organic and gluten-free fads.
12:16 <Cepheid> Which honestly isn't a bad idea from a financial standpoint.
12:18 <Cepheid> I want to order the special edition of Xenoblade 2, but I'm not sure I can anymore.
12:19 <ConfusionRift> One thing is testing one's stupidity, and another is challenging one's stupidity. This is definitely point 2. I mean, no one, NO ONE wants to spend 5-15 minutes trying to figure out how an ultra expensive juicer works when the $10 one is ready to go. Aaaand they got sliced too. Refunding everyone.
12:19 <Cepheid> Seems like it is less a special edition and more a limited-quantities edition.
12:19 <ConfusionRift> Oh, Console X Classic Edition syndrome.
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12:20 <Cepheid> Confusion, true. But the owner walks away with investment money and the money of the idiots who did in fact buy it.
12:21 <Cepheid> The fact that he is trying again implies he did actually get something out of it. Otherwise there is no point in trying.
12:23 <Cepheid> What bothers me more about his latest idea is that he convinced people to invest in it. It is even more glaring that it is a ripoff.
12:25 * ConfusionRift pukes oil.
12:26 <Cepheid> Now to wait for the next bus...
12:26 <ConfusionRift> The product was out for a year and a half, and was initially $700. Woooooah.
12:27 <ConfusionRift> Wait... haaah. That's how it works.
12:27 <Cepheid> Given people will pay $1300 without tax for a phone, 700 may as well be chump change for them. Or a better alternative to paying their monthly bills.
12:29 <ConfusionRift> That's true. (coughs) iGarbo (coughs)
12:30 <ConfusionRift> Here's the best part. They're the same people who would buy the new version as soon as it releases, even if said version is not even a year old.
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12:33 <ConfusionRift> Juicero is the kind of product that only Silicon Valley executives would greenlight, propped up by $120 million in venture capital."
12:35 <Tirek> Wait, fresh squeezed spring water? What
12:35 <ConfusionRift> People also found that hand squeezing the bags of juice was both cost effective and far more efficient than using them in the machine.
12:36 <ConfusionRift> Sorry, cost efficient.
12:36 <Tirek> Yes.
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12:40 <ConfusionRift> I'm looking for that one too. The water thing.
12:41 <ConfusionRift> I just got a kickstarter for these people trying to be resellers of natural spring water.
12:42 <ConfusionRift> Oooooooh! Same guy!
12:43 <Tirek> Link?
12:44 <Tirek> I need a taste of these morons'.
12:44 <ConfusionRift> Here's a summary. https://gizmodo.com/juicero-founder-hops-on-silicon-valleys-hot-starvation-1818583147
12:45 <ConfusionRift> here's the starter. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fresh-living-spring-water-as-nature-intended-design-health#/
12:45 <Cepheid> Blah. Bus is packed to the gills. Feels like a boiler inside.
12:46 <ConfusionRift> $22 for 1 liter of water! Huzzaaaahhh-bleeck! (there goes the oil)
12:47 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:48 <ConfusionRift> Sorry, $16.
12:48 <Cepheid> In other news I can't get ahold of a psychiatrist. All the ones in this city are overbooked and assuming they are accepting patients, it is at least an I month wait.
12:48 <ConfusionRift> All was 27% off.
12:48 <ConfusionRift> Guuuh.
12:48 <Cepheid> My mental health is likely going to remain untreated for the a good while.
12:49 <Cepheid> I month = 8 month.
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12:49 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh!
12:49 <ConfusionRift> Eeerm, longer than I thought.
12:50 <Tirek> Oh my god. The guy literally just watched Spirit Science episodes and started using their images for his branding.
12:50 <ConfusionRift> Not sure what to think of the overbooked psychiatrists.
12:50 <ConfusionRift> And stolen assets! It keeps adding up.
12:50 <Cepheid> Yeah. That is gonna be a problem. I'll have to ask the counselor for advice on which drugs I should try and see if I can convince my doctor to prescribe them on trial applications.
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12:51 <Cepheid> From what my counselor says I would likely need something for borderline personality disorder, and something to mellow out or slow the impulse reactions.
12:52 <ConfusionRift> But would help to make sure the person gives you one prescription, and not a booklet of them.
12:52 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, those are components for very nasty cocktails.
12:52 <Cepheid> Indeed.
12:53 <Cepheid> It is more the impulse reactions I am concerned about. That's what causes the 0-100 in a split second aggressiveness.
12:55 <ConfusionRift> They're still medications that are very dangerous when combined with others.
12:55 <ConfusionRift> Solo? Sure. But still have to watch over it, especially with those trial runs.
12:55 <Cepheid> I am under the impression that if I can control that, the rest of my problems will work their way towards equilibrium. Most of my behavioural changes revolve around trying to control the impulse actions.
12:56 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm. Does make sense.
12:56 <ConfusionRift> Okay, getting off that stupid water page. That's like water porn, and it's making me stupid thirsty.
12:57 <Cepheid> Heh. As for me I need to move around. Gotta get to my quiet place on campus.
12:57 * ConfusionRift nods.
12:58 <Cepheid> Be back soon.
13:00 <ConfusionRift> Oh, two comments on that other water tidbit. One, they say they're trying to be carbon neutral and whatnot. Making the glass jugs takes energy and can be a pollutant, especially on more conventional kilns. Two, they say it's filtered raw natural water. That makes no sense. Is it raw or filtered? And if it's filtered, which I'm sure it is, it's the same problem as buying Voss waters.
13:03 <ConfusionRift> They want to expand too, which will make this whole venture that much more pointless with costs and such.
13:05 <ConfusionRift> It's that issue I get to so often. Should I spend $3 on a filling meal that tastes rather good and burn it as I go through the day, or spend $3 on something 1/4 of the size of which I end up burning by just farting.
13:05 <ConfusionRift> *?
13:10 <Cepheid> I'd say you're putting too much thought into these things, honestly.
13:11 <ConfusionRift> but what do you mean by that? I mean, maye I'm just putting 2+2+2+2
13:11 <ConfusionRift> And the thing is that and then then after so of course....
13:11 <Cepheid> It's basically preying on people who are attracted to buzzwords and buzzphrases like "raw, unfiltered", "certified organic" or just "organic", and "carbon neutral".
13:11 * ConfusionRift starts sparking.
13:11 <Cepheid> Which, is pretty much a good majority of the Millenials and later generations.
13:12 <Cepheid> You slap the phrase "Non-GMO" onto a bottle of water, and people will buy it.
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13:13 <Tirek> I wonder how many people I can trick into believing a mineral compound can be genetically modified.
13:13 <Cepheid> The big things now are basically anything that's free of pesticides, gluten, and all-natural. If you appeal to those "big things", you can, and will, get sales.
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13:13 <ConfusionRift> But water is organic by essence, or is it that we have been drinking sludge from the wastes! And then of course so after will be AAAAH! (explodes)
13:13 <Shoes> https://pics.onsizzle.com/water-water-did-anyone-else-read-the-words-in-different-2888777.png
13:13 <Cepheid> For whatever reason, people latch onto things that are supposedly detrimental to one's health, and go for the exact opposite.
13:14 <Cepheid> You say that eating non-organic foods is what leads to people getting sick, they'll go for organic foods. You say eating GMO foods is bad for your health, people will want non-GMO foods.
13:14 * ConfusionRift respawns. "What I missed?"
13:14 <Cepheid> The problem isn't that they're right or wrong, though. It's that people don't want to spend the time to learn or read about anything that's longer than a paragraph, or 140 characters thereabout.
13:15 <Cepheid> I call it the "tl;dr mentality".
13:15 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, it's this buzzword pressing and pushing a product that is barely any different than its competitors.
13:16 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, how was it again? I forget the scene of this movie that explains this to a tee.
13:16 <Shoes> Virtual Reality Ready Hard Drive
13:16 <Cepheid> Arguably, I'd say it's more of a "We're pressed for time, so give us the quick facts and details." type of mentality, but it isn't.
13:16 <Cepheid> If people can spend more of their time on their phone than doing their job, they have time to read these articles.
13:16 <Cepheid> All the way through.
13:16 <ConfusionRift> yep.
13:17 <ConfusionRift> It's like how many products have the calorie count on the front of the box. "See? We're healthier!" Check the other product, exactly the same.
13:18 <Cepheid> I've actually been looking at the nutritional information as of late.
13:19 <Cepheid> While my diabetes isn't out of control, I should still be taking care of it.
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13:21 <Tirek> Is water considered organic?
13:21 <Tirek> I thought it was a mineral.
13:21 <Tirek> I can't tell if joking.
13:22 <ConfusionRift> It's... an oddity. I can't really explain it. I don't even know what organic means anymore.
13:22 <Cepheid> I'm actually not sure what water is considered.
13:22 <Cepheid> In this case, ConfusionRift, "organic" is basically non-GMO, and pesticide-free foodstuffs.
13:23 <ConfusionRift> Hah!
13:23 <Cepheid> So, basically, food items that are prone to parasites and disease.
13:23 <Cepheid> I've heard estimates that it takes almost two or three times as much space to grow organic food as it does non-organic food.
13:23 <Cepheid> Because of how much of the crop ends up dying.
13:23 <Cepheid> Or is unusable.
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13:26 <Cepheid> My biggest fear revolving around these crazes is that I somehow get pulled into them by being used as an example of what happens when you don't eat those kinds of things, etc.
13:27 <Cepheid> I'm not exactly the most healthy person out there. Sinus infection out the wazoo. Mental health issues. Diabetes. Slightly elevated blood pressure. Two of those I was born with. One I was genetically pre-disposed to due to both parents being diabetic. One is a result of the diabetes.
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13:28 <ConfusionRift> I generally tell those people to... ahem, stay away from me. Yeah, it's more explicit than that, but still.
13:29 <Cepheid> I'll BRB. I appear to have to need to reboot my PC.
13:29 <ConfusionRift> Okayday.
13:29 <Cepheid> Back.
13:29 <Cepheid> ... That took all of one minute apparently.
13:30 <Cepheid> If that. My clock's slightly off.
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13:30 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift: Truth told, if anyone ever tried to use me as an example, my impulse control would fail.
13:30 <Cepheid> And I'd likely yell at them.
13:31 <ConfusionRift> I would too.
13:32 <Cepheid> ... Man, I would not want to walk alongside that river today.
13:33 <Cepheid> It's been raining a lot lately, so the river is kind of..
13:33 <Cepheid> It's almost flooding.
13:33 <ConfusionRift> "HeeeeeEEEeeeeelp..." | I definitely am not passing by that river.
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13:35 <Cepheid> "Error in libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18+0xe3119d: WTFCrash+0x1d"
13:35 <Cepheid> "WTFCrash"
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13:36 <ConfusionRift> Interesting crash.
13:38 <Cepheid> Inexplicably, eclipse refuses to work with GTK3 now..
13:43 <Cepheid> O(rows() + cols() - i) time for the column operations... Hmm.
13:43 <Cepheid> And we're not allowed to use add(i, null) or remove(i)
13:46 <Cepheid> The provided implementation already meets the addRow() and removeRow() requirements for the table. No work has to be done there, so it's just a case of addColumn() and removeColumn() I have to do.
13:49 <Cepheid> This requires a translation table.
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14:15 <Cepheid> Hum, that was easier than expected.
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14:18 <Cepheid> Does it meet the prof's requirements..?
14:19 <Cepheid> ... Nope. But apparently the code I used for testing caught all of the bugs in the prof's implementation.
14:22 <Cepheid> And I'm gonna have to move. Apparently the cloudy weather we have today decided to end, and now the sun is introducing considerable glare onto my laptop screen. Back in a bit.
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14:34 <CleverDerpy> derp?
14:34 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid: Shouldn't the prof's implementation be relatively bug-free?
14:34 <CleverDerpy> hiya RazorSharpFang, Cepheid
14:35 <RazorSharpFang> Hey CleverDerpy
14:36 <Cepheid> Hey.
14:36 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: Yes, ideally. But there's a catch.
14:37 <Cepheid> See, all of our code implements an interface. This allows a concrete object implementing the interface to be passed to a testing function which accepts reference to an object that implements said interface.
14:37 <RazorSharpFang> Wait, which language is this in?
14:38 <Cepheid> The test functions, when dealing with the professor's code, are meant to test buggy or incomplete implementations as well.
14:38 <Cepheid> He's forcing us to implement not just proper implementations of algorithms, but testing functions as well.
14:39 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/XenobladeJP/status/926706854180175873 Apparently, the people are finding that the voice does not match this character. Both Japanese and English players alike.
14:39 <RazorSharpFang> Okay did not expect that voice
14:40 <Cepheid> Yeah, apparently a lot of people didn't.
14:40 <Cepheid> They expected something more mature-sounding.
14:43 <RazorSharpFang> Btw, which language is your task in, Cepheid ?
14:43 <Cepheid> I actually wonder what her weapon is. Your weapons are basically anthropomorphic, in a sense. These magical characters are called "Blades". Each one provides a weapon to the player through Magic silliness.
14:43 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: Java.
14:43 <RazorSharpFang> Ah, my condolences.
14:43 <Cepheid> I actually don't mind it.
14:43 <Cepheid> Java serves it's purpose similarly to how C or C++ serves it's purpose.
14:43 <Cepheid> JavaScript on the other hand..
14:43 <RazorSharpFang> Java's so verbose that it feels clunky to write in.
14:44 <Cepheid> Compared to little to no verbosity in C or C++?
14:44 <RazorSharpFang> Given the choice between Java and C# I'd choose C# any day, but C# on linux isn't a real thing right now.
14:44 <Cepheid> C and C++, and to a degree, even C#, feels just as clunky as Java.
14:44 <Cepheid> Uh, actually it is.
14:44 <Cepheid> Mono.
14:44 <Cepheid> And it is actually being used.
14:44 <RazorSharpFang> Mono's not a real thing.
14:44 <Cepheid> ...
14:44 * Cepheid sighs.
14:45 <Cepheid> I'm not going to get into this argument any further if you're gonna be like that.
14:45 <RazorSharpFang> Even so, I get sad when I see people writing games in Java. Wrong language choice.
14:46 <Cepheid> For games, yeah.
14:46 <foxy> what is Java?
14:46 <Cepheid> Truth told, any garbage-collecting language is a bad choice.
14:46 <Cepheid> foxy: One of the major programming languages out there at the moment.
14:46 <foxy> ohh
14:47 <RazorSharpFang> I think Java's big in business information systems right now, so $$$ for java-developers.
14:47 <Cepheid> It is.
14:47 <CleverDerpy> here's my problem with jaca
14:47 <CleverDerpy> (java
14:47 <CleverDerpy> or as I like to call it, jargon
14:47 <Cepheid> Many schools have started focusing on Java ahead of C or C++, or other object-oriented languages.
14:48 <CleverDerpy> java uses methods that are messy, untested, and very unclean
14:48 <RazorSharpFang> I learned programming first with GML (Gamemaker) on my own, and then learned C at university.
14:49 <Cepheid> CleverDerpy: That is somewhat of a problem among all APIs in every language.
14:49 <Cepheid> It's not exclusive to just Java.
14:49 <CleverDerpy> if langagues are clean enough to use straight up code as it is now, why produce a trash producing garbage center for one langauge
14:50 <CleverDerpy> it's like I tell people as an artist
14:50 <CleverDerpy> you want high res artwork? use PNG, you want low res. use JPEG
14:50 <foxy> ?
14:51 <CleverDerpy> it's visual garble, and they both have purposes
14:51 <Cepheid> I have no idea what you just stated.
14:51 <CleverDerpy> but one is vastly superior to the other, and yet the other is popular
14:51 <foxy> oh
14:51 <RazorSharpFang> My controversial opinion is that WebP > JPG
14:52 <CleverDerpy> now, like java vs C++ for example
14:52 <CleverDerpy> they both have uses
14:52 <CleverDerpy> they're both for different reasons
14:53 <CleverDerpy> but one can be used to present something, and the other is just for being fast and messy
14:54 <CleverDerpy> I would never turn in a JPEG to my graphic design teacher, she expected high quality outputs that are print rwady
14:54 <Cepheid> Okay, and..?
14:54 <CleverDerpy> the point is, java is like the JPEG of Coding
14:54 <RazorSharpFang> I think CD's arguing for a use-case based judgement call on language choice.
14:55 <CleverDerpy> it's got a place, it works, but it's lower quality output
14:56 <Cepheid> By that logic, any language that's not C or C++, would be considered worse than those two languages.
14:56 <CleverDerpy> well, as I stated, everything has a place
14:56 <Cepheid> Because almost all of them in some way are slower than C or C++ because of how they are implemented, or what language features they provide.
14:57 <CleverDerpy> the problem is how clean the actual code is,
14:57 <Cepheid> Garbage-collected languages, as a whole, will always be outperformed by C or C++. Interpreted languages will always be slower than even garbage-collected languages.
14:57 <Cepheid> I dunno, I consider Java code to be about as clean as C++, if not better.
14:57 <Cepheid> C and C++ code has a tendency to be a disastrous mess because of some features or specific traits.
14:57 <CleverDerpy> I've struggled with java before for outputs,
14:58 <Cepheid> Define outputs.
14:58 <CleverDerpy> quality in, garbage out, no dice
14:58 <RazorSharpFang> Are you talking about building user-interfaces?
14:58 <Cepheid> ...
14:58 <foxy> ?
14:58 <Cepheid> That doesn't tell me anything, CleverDerpy.
14:58 <CleverDerpy> ok, nvm then,
14:59 <Cepheid> I am asking for an explicit example.
14:59 <Cepheid> Not just a catch-all statement of "I put in code, garbage comes out."
14:59 <RazorSharpFang> I maintain that C++ is as terrible as the developer lets it be.
14:59 <CleverDerpy> well, I just wanted to add my two cents, I made a rant, I am sorry I cannot fully explain that rant
15:00 <Cepheid> ...
15:00 <Cepheid> Why am I even discussing this? I have an assignment I have to work on.
15:00 <CleverDerpy> i dunno, muffin... sorry
15:03 <Cepheid> Hum, the test server says the code is throwing an IndexOutOfBoundsException. But it won't give me any other details.
15:04 * Cepheid looks at the code. There are at least six methods that throw it.
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15:05 <RazorSharpFang> Do you not have a stack-trace?
15:06 <Cepheid> Test server doesn't give me any information to test.
15:06 <Lumin> Ceph: Generaelly means it's accessing something out of bounds
15:06 <Lumin> *shrug*
15:06 <Cepheid> Yes, thank you for that clear explanation.
15:07 <Cepheid> Got any other obvious tidbits you want to tell me?
15:07 <RazorSharpFang> Well, if you're testing on an interface, that raises the question of what methods are being called with what input.
15:07 <Cepheid> Yes.
15:07 <RazorSharpFang> I don't suppose you get to see anything printed to std::out do you?
15:08 <Cepheid> Let me rephrase this one last time. The only thing the server is telling me is that it got an IndexOutOfBoundsException. Nothing else. No text output, no method names, no stack trace, NOTHING.
15:08 <RazorSharpFang> That's the epitome of lame.
15:08 <Cepheid> It compiles the code, runs it, then spits out what exception, if any, was thrown. Otherwise, it tells me if I met the requirements or not.
15:09 <Cepheid> It doesn't tell me the inputs it uses. I can't look at the test code on the server either. I can't see anything other than "It passed" or "It failed with this exception or requirement missed."
15:09 <Cepheid> It doesn't even tell me the method that threw the exception.
15:10 <RazorSharpFang> That's ultra sucky, man.
15:10 <RazorSharpFang> What are you even supposed to do with that??
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15:11 <Cepheid> That's the problem with this professor.
15:11 <Cepheid> It's pretty much guesswork as to what he wants.
15:11 <Cepheid> He specifies requirements in the form of "Function X must retrieve this, and must do so in O(...) time."
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15:12 <RazorSharpFang> I don't suppose you could link me a copy of (perhaps redacted) the document? You've got me curious now.
15:13 <DashedRainbows> Good morning horses
15:13 <Lumin> me awakens
15:13 * Lumin awakens*
15:14 <Cepheid> The website is available to the public, so you can look at it all you want.
15:14 <DashedRainbows> Hey Lumin
15:14 <RazorSharpFang> Oh sweet, could you PM me the URL?
15:14 <Cepheid> http://people.scs.carleton.ca/~arunka/courses/comp2402/assignments/a3/index.html
15:14 <Cepheid> Eh.
15:14 <RazorSharpFang> XD
15:14 <Cepheid> Others can look at it all they want. Just don't go toying with the test server, as it requires a secret key.
15:15 <RazorSharpFang> At least they take security seriously.
15:15 <Cepheid> Only one class has bothered to password protect anything.
15:15 <Cepheid> The security of this university is... questionable.
15:16 <RazorSharpFang> `Due November 7th` Best of luck, Cepheid
15:16 <Cepheid> Few years back, the ITS department accidentally installed malware on the network.
15:16 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang, for the record, I have completed every assignment up until now on the day it was due, and got 100%. :P
15:17 <RazorSharpFang> May your insanity be fruitful and rewarding.
15:18 <Cepheid> For the record, I went into this class' midterm with no studying for it, and came out with a 74%. I failed to study for it because I didn't have the time, thanks to Discrete Structures and Web Applications.
15:18 <Cepheid> Those two classes take up an inordinate amount of time because of the assignment sizes.
15:19 <RazorSharpFang> Btw, you on Q1 or Q2?
15:19 <Cepheid> Q1.
15:20 <Cepheid> I've already got an implementation that meets the speed requirements. Just trying to figure out where the IndexOutOfBoundsException is being thrown. I have an idea, though.
15:20 <RazorSharpFang> `Your test functions will be run against buggy/inefficient implementations` WHY.
15:21 <Cepheid> Found where the exception is being thrown from.
15:21 <Cepheid> ...
15:21 <Cepheid> Okay then!
15:22 <Cepheid> He's throwing it from an argument validity if statement.
15:22 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid: Strangely enough, there's not a single mention to `throw` or `exception` in the assignment specs.
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15:26 <Cepheid> It's throwing an exception because a method is calling set with a column index greater than the number of columns in the table - 1.
15:27 <RazorSharpFang> Should it not be throwing an exception? :thinking:
15:28 <Cepheid> The problem implies I'm decrementing, or not incrementing appropriately in a method.
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15:32 <Cepheid> Interesting. The test server *DOES* output useful information. Exceptions can be thrown with a message. The server outputs the message passed to the exception constructor.
15:32 <Cepheid> He's trying to access... column 5, but the table only has 4 columns at that moment in time.
15:38 <Cepheid> ...
15:39 <Cepheid> o3o
15:39 <Cepheid> I moved a couple of statements around...
15:39 <Cepheid> And the code works for the server now.
15:39 <Cepheid> I do not feel comfortable with code that works for reasons I don't understand.
15:40 <Cepheid> ... The problem appears to be in removeCol().
15:41 <Cepheid> ... Oh!
15:42 <Cepheid> I see the issue now.
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15:42 <Cepheid> Blah, it was a silly bug on my part. I decremented the current number of columns before calling table.set() to clear the column I am erasing.
15:43 <Lumin> gg
15:44 <Cepheid> In any case, that completes Q1. I don't really know why the test function I wrote works, though. It just adds 5 columns, 5 rows, sets the table values to random integers, then returns true.
15:44 <Cepheid> There's no "return false" to indicate a problem anywhere in the code.
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15:53 <Cepheid> I need to get up for a few minutes. Eat something, as well.
15:56 <RazorSharpFang> !shoo
15:56 * DerpyBot sways from side to side, quietly humming "shoo be doo shoo shoo be doo"
15:57 <Cepheid> Lunch today... three mandarin oranges, some crackers, some peanuts, some green olives, and some cherry yoghurt.
15:57 <Cepheid> Better than the usual junk I eat at this university.
15:58 <RazorSharpFang> Twitter is pushing me likes of people I follow into my timeline.
15:58 <RazorSharpFang> Like you, Cepheid
15:58 <RazorSharpFang> Why does twitter do this?
15:58 <Cepheid> I am aware.
15:58 <Cepheid> It does this.
15:58 <Cepheid> I'm planning to create a more "professional" account at some point so you don't have to see everything I like, art-wise.
15:59 <RazorSharpFang> Somehow, twitter is becoming worse and worse.
15:59 <Cepheid> My current account will be limited to just art and following artists. While the other account is what people will see in regards to developments, etc.
16:00 <Cepheid> In fact, I'll go create it now.
16:00 <RazorSharpFang> If twitter shuts down for good, I probably won't care all that much tbh... Its current path is not a good path.
16:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Sable Symphony - Better Off Alone [Post-Hardcore] [ http://tinyurl.com/yb7z5hwd ]
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16:01 * Filly_Nightmares nests on RazorSharpFang
16:01 <RazorSharpFang> Looks like this is happening now.
16:03 <Cepheid> Follow https://twitter.com/andrewrdionne if you'd prefer to not see all my art retweeting and likes. :P
16:04 <RazorSharpFang> :P
16:04 <Cepheid> I brought yoghurt, but forgot to bring a spoon.
16:04 <Finwe> o3o
16:05 * Finwe noms on Filly_Nightmares.
16:05 * Cepheid will solve that later. University cafeteria has plastic spoons.
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16:07 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
16:07 <DashedRainbows> Hey Thelema5
16:08 <Thelema5> Horrible news coming out of Texas, DashedRainbows. How's the mood over by you?
16:09 <DashedRainbows> I don't go outside. Ok I guess
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16:13 <Cepheid> Hey Thelema5.
16:13 <Thelema5> Hiya
16:13 <CocoPommel> What's the horrible news?
16:17 <RazorSharpFang> The guns went bang bang in a church. Lives lost.
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16:22 <Librarian> hewwo
16:22 <DashedRainbows> Yo
16:23 <Librarian> i broke the 5000 words mark owo
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16:24 <DashedRainbows> Good, I got like 300
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16:29 <Schism> Earlier question: A shooter attacked a small-town church near San Antonio, killing 26. Hope everyone here is staying safe.
16:36 * DashedRainbows bites a pineapple
16:36 * Cepheid yawns.
16:43 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: You were saying something about how I was doing this assignment a day before it was due, right?
16:43 <Cepheid> Well, I just completed the major parts of it. :P
16:43 <RazorSharpFang> Good on you, hope you get the rest done in a like fashion
16:43 <Cepheid> I just need to do the test code for Question #2, then I'm done.
16:43 <Cepheid> Which is worth all of 2 points out of 24.
16:43 <Cepheid> As it is, I am sitting at 22/24
16:44 * Cepheid applies The Worm's Tail to Schism.
16:45 <Schism> I'm pretty much almost on hiatus from FFXIV. But heh, great theme.
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16:46 <Schism> Shinryu Ex doesn't play nice. Right from the word go, there go two of those platforms.
16:47 * Lumin patpats Schism
16:47 <Cepheid> Also, a note for the rest of you. If you haven't played the .hack//G.U. trilogy, now might be a good time to. They re-released it as one package for PC and PS4, with an extra chapter. Witness the sequel to the series of games and anime that that started the trapped-in-MMO scenario.
16:47 <Cepheid> AKA: One of SAO's predecessors.
16:48 <Tirek> I need to watch .hack//SIGN
16:48 <Cepheid> It helps to watch it, yeah.
16:48 <Cepheid> It's the start of the .hack series as a whole.
16:48 <Tirek> I remember vaguely watching a few episodes back in the day and being very interested in it.
16:49 <Cepheid> The first quadrilogy of .hack games take place immediately after it.
16:49 <Schism> I has an older such tale - Piers Anthony's Killobyte - floating around the apartment somewhere. .hack// is better tho.
16:49 <Tirek> Then a sequal to SIGN came out and it was awful.
16:49 <Cepheid> And G.U. takes place after the quadrilogy.
16:49 <Cepheid> With an awesome twist about the main character.
16:49 <Cepheid> Schism probably knows this twist.
16:49 <Schism> Tirek: Hope you don't mean the .hack//Liminality OVAs.
16:50 <Tirek> No, I never watched those.
16:50 <Schism> Ah, you should, they were a glimpse of 'what the hell is going on outside The World?!'.
16:50 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18SQxu-KtSo I wonder why this song caused the hair on my head to stand up, and send shivers down my spine.
16:50 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
16:50 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about .hack//G.U. Soundtrack - The Whereabouts of Truth
16:50 <Tirek> I think it was Legend of the Twilight.
16:51 <Cepheid> Oh, that's right.
16:51 <Schism> Yeah, that was ... not so good.
16:51 <Cepheid> The re-release *ALSO* includes the extra content that was specific to a pre-order special edition.
16:51 <Schism> Cepheid: Ah, this one's good. o3o
16:51 <Cepheid> See, the special edition came with an extra disc for the PS2. It included a bunch of short clips that covered the history of The World, as well as covering events going on outside The World during the events of G.U.
16:52 <Cepheid> It unlocked clips as you progressed through the trilogy. The re-release includes these clips.
16:52 <Cepheid> Now if only they would re-release the quadrilogy for those of us who missed it.
16:52 <Cepheid> I want to kick Morgana's eye in the EYE.
16:53 <Schism> Cepheid: There's always emulation at least.
16:53 <Cepheid> True.
16:53 <Schism> And yeah, Liminality was released with the first four games.
16:54 <Cepheid> Also, Yuri Lowenthal did Haseo's voice. He also did Yosuke in Persona 4. So you know his voice work is good. :P
16:55 <Schism> Well, yes, Yuri Lowenthal's always good. (Still love his work on I Love Bees.)
16:55 <Cepheid> He apparently complained a bit about doing Haseo, because of all the screaming. Especially of the name "Skeith"
16:57 <Schism> Hmmm. And there's the prequel to the .hack// games: '.hack//ROOTS'.
16:57 <Cepheid> It's really, REALLY ironic that Haseo gets Skeith, of all the Phases of Morganna.
16:58 <Schism> All those dead PKs. o3o
16:58 * Filly_Nightmares noms Finwe and nests on Schism
16:59 <Schism> Also why Skeith... well, the finale of .hack//SIGN.
17:00 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
17:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Filly Fantasy 2.0 Released! [ http://tinyurl.com/y9vjmpch ]
17:00 <Cepheid> I'm actually kind of surprised any player who ended up in a coma because of The World would return to that game.
17:00 <Cepheid> But numerous characters do so.
17:00 <Cepheid> Er, players*
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17:12 <Cepheid> I cannot recall the .hack anime *THAT* well.
17:12 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Cepheid...
17:12 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> .hack GU?
17:12 <Schism> Oh, this was more the games. Infection, et al - Mia, a cat person, loves Aromatic Grass.
17:13 * Schism boops Nossy with a Twilight Bracelet.
17:13 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Meep!
17:13 * The_Nostalgia_Mare baps Schism with a Manbearpig claw. "Still on Stick of Truth."
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17:15 <Cepheid> Ah, right.
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17:15 <Cepheid> The_Nostalgia_Mare: .hack//G.U. was recently re-released as a complete set for PC and PS4. It also includes a new chapter, *AND* the special bonus disc available only with special pre-order editions of the first game.
17:16 <Nossy|College> I knows.
17:16 <Nossy|College> I got the game already.
17:17 <Nossy|College> I'll start on it after I beaten Stick of Truth.
17:20 <Akira> OwO
17:20 <Akira> Southpark?
17:20 <Nossy|College> Yes.
17:20 <Akira> o3o
17:20 <Akira> I never got past the giant nazi baby.
17:40 <Librarian> i might have liked that show had my brother introduced me to a particulalrly abominable episode
17:40 <Librarian> had not introduced me i mean
17:41 <Librarian> i know its supposed to offend and all that, but that particular scenario was so against my sense of justice that i got really angry
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17:56 <Akira> WHat episode was it?
17:59 <CladdaghRing> Bah. This exotic imported Monster flavour turns out to be grape. Not a fan of fizzy grape. Money somewhat wasted
17:59 * Lumin boops Schism
18:00 <Schism> Lumin, bleh. Am taking hiatus from FFXIV.
18:00 <Schism> Burnout.
18:00 <Schism> And a few other reasons, admittedly.
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18:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Princess Trixie Sparkle Finale Trailer [ http://tinyurl.com/yc6epxlp ]
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18:01 <Schism> Randomly: Richard Turner is made of pure, unadulterated awesome.
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18:04 <Thelema5> Richard Turner the card mechanic?
18:05 <Schism> Yes. The blind card mechanic.
18:05 <Thelema5> He was on Penn & Teller: Fool Us for a demo
18:05 <Thelema5> Amazing stuff
18:06 <Schism> Yah, that's the one I watched, Absolutely fantastic, even when he's telling you what he's doing, you can't tell where he's dealing from.
18:07 <Schism> "When you start shuffling with one hand, that's when people get up and start running away." X3
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18:57 <Cepheid> Schism, as someone who appears to be a bit more knowledgeable about diabetes, do you have any idea why starving myself results in an effect similar to that of caffiene, only much stronger?
18:58 <Schism> What sort of effect? Do you refer to an increase in alertness, or more to the shakes, the feeling of fuzziness, and that kind of ringing sensation which results from hypoglycemia?
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18:59 <Cepheid> Alertness.
18:59 <Cepheid> Extreme alertness.
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18:59 <Cepheid> I feel like starving brings incredible amounts of clarity, focus and alertness to me.
19:00 <Schism> I don't think that's necessarily hypoglycemia, so much as the fact that when we're exceedingly hungry, sometimes we're sharper because we need to be in order to eat. Burning more energy in starvation mode.
19:00 <Schism> Or something.
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19:00 <Schism> I really don't think that's in any way related to diabetes.
19:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Chubby Hallmark Twilight Ornament Now on Amazon [ http://tinyurl.com/y73lvrth ]
19:01 <Cepheid> Hum. According to a quick search it is just a case of the brain going "You're hungry, so here's something to help pick you up, focus and look for food."
19:02 <Cepheid> The something in this case being a hormone.
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19:03 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, the other question I have is "why does caffiene cause my vision to sharpen considerably?"
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19:05 <Cepheid> I literally have no idea what my professor wants me to test for Question #2.
19:06 <Cepheid> Every test I've thought up thus far has failed to catch the bugs the professor's implementations has.
19:15 <Cepheid> There. Got one test down.
19:18 <Cepheid> And there's the other test. Assignment complete, 100%.
19:18 <Thelema5> Yay
19:21 <Cepheid> Might as well get started on other assignments. Or perhaps I can study for the midterm at 4.
19:21 <Cepheid> Er, 4:30*
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19:28 <Cepheid> Actually I'm gonna go eat.
19:28 * Cepheid wanders off to cafeteria to eat.
19:31 * DashedRainbows sits on Ali and pokes her horn
19:31 * Ali squeaks and wiggles as her horn is poked.
19:34 * DashedRainbows pets the horsey
19:37 * Ali leans into DashedRainbows pats
19:38 <DashedRainbows> You'd make a good princess
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19:43 * Tempest-Shadow casually horsenoises
19:44 * DashedRainbows feeds her a carrot. Whoa girl
19:44 * Schism provides a Brownie Bun with peanut butter.
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19:48 * Thelema5 yawns and stretches
19:49 * Cepheid returns.
19:49 <MrKulebyaka> good morning Thelema5
19:49 <DashedRainbows> I guess the wine will have to do. I haven't gone to the store to buy cider
19:49 * MrKulebyaka boops DashedRainbows
19:50 <DashedRainbows> Or juice as they say
19:50 <DashedRainbows> Hey MrKulebyaka
19:51 <MrKulebyaka> Whatcha doing DashedRainbows?
19:54 <DashedRainbows> Listening to music trying to stay sane
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19:55 <MrKulebyaka> pony music?
19:55 <DashedRainbows> I don't think the medicine is helping much
19:57 <DashedRainbows> This https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEUQ6fm7FYRVSX1WnOKslyDyTZ8M4Dtsr)
19:58 <Cepheid> I made a mistake. I ate some cookies.
19:59 * Thelema5 glances over at the channel and waves hello back to MrKulebyaka
19:59 <MrKulebyaka> Thelema5 is awesome :)
20:00 <Thelema5> Pft
20:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2435 [ http://tinyurl.com/yazgtqs8 ]
20:00 <DashedRainbows> Nah
20:00 <DashedRainbows> You're awesome, Thelema5
20:01 <Thelema5> Thelema5 is a middle-aged weirdo with crippling anxiety who is about to become chronically unemployed
20:01 <Thelema5> Thanks for the vote of confidence, though
20:02 <DashedRainbows> And DashedRainbows is a horribly confused young adult with no direction in life
20:03 <DashedRainbows> People are resilient it seems
20:03 * MrKulebyaka hugs Thelema5 and DashedRainbows and still belives they are awesome
20:04 * Thelema5 counterhugs!
20:04 <DashedRainbows> I wish I believed it
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20:06 * DashedRainbows hugs MrKulebyaka
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20:06 <MrKulebyaka> You need to hug like this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wTyU3T_rEOQ/maxresdefault.jpg
20:07 <DashedRainbows> Hmm
20:07 * Filly_Nightmares snoms Thelema5
20:08 <DashedRainbows> How do pony bones work
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20:13 <Thelema5> Ponies have bones?
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20:14 <DashedRainbows> Do they?
20:14 <foxy> yup
20:15 <DashedRainbows> We've seen pony skeletons and Dash broke a wing bone once
20:15 <Tempest-Shadow> Candy bones covered by a marshmallow skin
20:15 <Schism> Daring Do broke her wing too... o3o
20:18 <DashedRainbows> Yeah
20:20 <Thelema5> I feel like we've even seen an x-ray type of image when somepony was hit with lighting
20:21 <DashedRainbows> That too
20:22 <DashedRainbows> So skeletons are magic
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20:23 <Librarian> only for necromancers
20:23 <Schism> There's a skeleton inside all of us.
20:24 <DashedRainbows> I'll probably go to the store today
20:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> !link bone crushing hug
20:25 <DerpyBot> Twilight says she doesn't have anything in the library about that
20:25 <Tempest-Shadow> !link bones
20:26 <DerpyBot> http://derpibooru.org/520396?scope=scpee42627d0fe41defd260a9a964634d390a7aa91d3
20:26 <Starlight_Glimmer> It's cold outside :(
20:26 * Starlight_Glimmer steals warmth from DashedRainbows
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20:27 <DashedRainbows> There's not much in me right now
20:27 <DashedRainbows> Unless you mean literal
20:27 <DashedRainbows> I feel feverish
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20:28 <CleverDerpy> derp?
20:28 <DashedRainbows> Hey CleverDerpy
20:28 <CleverDerpy> hiya, feeling better?
20:28 <DashedRainbows> Not really
20:28 * CleverDerpy sniffs DashedRainbows
20:28 <CleverDerpy> you smell... unwell
20:28 <Starlight_Glimmer> That was of course what I was looking for: https://bakuel.deviantart.com/art/Gabby-Hugs-634021052
20:28 <DashedRainbows> The headache is gone at least
20:28 <Thelema5> The brain is the center of consciousness, and the brain is encased by the skull. You are inside of a skeleton
20:29 <DashedRainbows> How's the CleverDerpy today
20:30 <MrKulebyaka> Thelema5 sounds claustrophobic
20:30 <CleverDerpy> I am goodles
20:30 <CleverDerpy> i just found out a work i did last night got almost 700 views in one night
20:30 <CleverDerpy> it's... freaky to me
20:31 <CleverDerpy> i might be obsessed with numbers, but dang, that's a record
20:31 <DashedRainbows> Your famous!
20:31 <MrKulebyaka> Can you show it ?
20:31 * DashedRainbows gets her shades
20:31 <CleverDerpy> i wish, but it's not safe for woona
20:31 <CleverDerpy> showing it could put derpy in da box jail
20:31 <CleverDerpy> nopony wants that
20:32 <MrKulebyaka> ok nevermind
20:32 <DashedRainbows> Yeah ok
20:32 <CleverDerpy> sorry muffin
20:33 <CleverDerpy> it's just weird, i never got 100 in one day, now i got 700 overnight?
20:33 <CleverDerpy> i can't figure out where people are finding it
20:33 <MrKulebyaka> somebody posted a link somewhere
20:33 <CleverDerpy> maybe, but...
20:33 <CleverDerpy> does that really make me famous?
20:33 <CleverDerpy> cuz derpy doesn't feel famous
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20:34 * DashedRainbows starts selling CleverDerpy bobbleheads
20:34 <CleverDerpy> i'll take 20~
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20:35 <Thelema5> CleverDerpy, can you tell where the views originated?
20:35 <Thelema5> Congrats, that's great, btw
20:35 <CleverDerpy> in private, it's a site that has lots of other works that woona wouldn't find safe
20:36 <CleverDerpy> don't wanna share directly here
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20:36 <Thelema5> pm me?
20:40 <DashedRainbows> Eh, I think I'll just take a Vistaril then nap
20:43 <Thelema5> Feel better!
20:45 <Thelema5> Ugh, getting called into a meeting
20:45 *** Thelema5 is now known as Thelema5|away
20:46 <DashedRainbows> It sucks that it knocks you out
20:46 <DashedRainbows> Good luck Thelema5
20:58 * CleverDerpy patpats DashedRainbows
20:59 <CleverDerpy> she's a tough filly, she'll be oki
21:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: 174UDSI - Heroes [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/yb7ufn6b ]
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21:04 <Cepheid> Stupid IRC client.
21:04 <Schism> Cepheid: http://skin-horse.com/ - A superheroine with all the powers of a Canadian Goose.
21:05 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:06 <DashedRainbows> I think the lack of sleep last night it's catching up to me anyway
21:07 <Cepheid> I should not have eaten prior to my exam. I am feeling sluggish now.
21:09 <Cepheid> Systems programming. AKA: C programming for idiots. Midterm mark 87.5. I didn't study for it either. :D
21:17 *** Thelema5|away is now known as Thelema5
21:18 <DashedRainbows> Welcome back Thelema5
21:18 <Thelema5> Well it's official... I am laid off indefinately with less than 10% chance of being recalled in March.
21:19 <Thelema5> I will work out the rest of the week and that's it.
21:19 * Schism hugs the Thelema5. "Bleh..."
21:19 <DashedRainbows> Well you already knew this
21:19 * Surreal_Nightmares snugglies Thelema5
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21:20 <Thelema5> I knew it, but now it's all offical. Got the paperwork to prove it. :P
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21:21 <FreeTirek> Tirek did nothing wrong
21:22 <DashedRainbows> Ok...
21:22 <Cepheid> Time to silence the phone. Laters.
21:22 <Schism> See ya round.
21:24 * DashedRainbows hugs FreeTirek anyway
21:25 * FreeTirek gives DashedRainbows some Oreos
21:26 * DashedRainbows squees and licks FreeTirek
21:28 * FreeTirek snuggles next to DashedRainbows
21:30 <Schism> I believe tonight will be cranberry oatmeal chocolate cookies.
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21:34 <Thelema5> I will spend my few remaining days at work using the company's resources to apply elsewhere.
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21:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm sorry to hear that Thelema5
21:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> Good luck. I hope you find something new
21:37 <Thelema5> Thanks. I've already applied to one place that looks somewhat promising, even if I don't possess 100% of the skills they're looking for. If that doesn't come through I guess I'll start lowering my expectations and try finding something in the service or retail sectors
21:37 <Ali> NO NOT RETAIL
21:37 * Ali boops Thelema5, bad time to deal with retail
21:37 <Thelema5> I hate retail, but there isn't really much else in the way of work around here
21:38 <Thelema5> A lot of places are hiring for the holidays
21:38 <FreeTirek> -_____- I don't get it, what's so bad about retail?
21:38 <Thelema5> Customers
21:38 <FreeTirek> -_________- I still don't get it
21:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> Also Amazon
21:39 <DashedRainbows> People
21:39 <Tempest-Shadow> Retail is a fairly rough place in some areas, and can be thankless work for many.
21:39 <Tempest-Shadow> people are ultimately the reason retail is not always everyones first or second choice
21:39 <FreeTirek> but.. we're people
21:40 <Tempest-Shadow> And people are fickle, easily rattled, hard to please and not always right. :P
21:40 <Thelema5> Customers don't treat retail workers as people. They regard them more as servants
21:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> Excuse me? People? I don't see no "people" around here
21:40 <Thelema5> What's this word you keep using, "man"
21:41 <Tempest-Shadow> x3
21:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> To be fair customer service often is quite bad
21:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> All the experience I had with customers (not in retail though) was overwhelmingly positive even if the customer was upset
21:42 <Tempest-Shadow> it's a self-eating snake, tbh
21:43 <Tempest-Shadow> both sides fuel the bad parts of the other
21:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> You can achieve a lot if you work towards a solution with them and don't try to shuffle around the blame, but instead work towards a solution
21:43 <FreeTirek> I think you guys are exaggerating how... ah hem ponies interact with customer services, don't ya think
21:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> As a customer myself though yeah ... Let's say I'm the kind of customer you don't want to screw over
21:45 <Tempest-Shadow> FreeTirek: I've seen many a story on both sides
21:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> I had to contact Namecheap (Domain registrar) support quite a lot because their systems are buggy as hell and lack features. Their customer service isn't fast etiher, BUT every single time I had to contact them I got to talk to an actual human in a for me convenient way and they always solved my problem.
21:47 <Thelema5> Tirek, one time when I was working in retail I was asked by my manager to sweep the floor in a specific aisle... a customer became highly agitated that I would DARE sweep dirt up near him. He actually grabbed the broom from me and threw it clear across the store. He then proceeded to complain to my manager about me "insulting him"
21:48 <FreeTirek> Both examples are actually not that bad
21:48 <Thelema5> Of course this being retail the manager sided 100% with the customer and I was issued a disciplinary warning
21:49 <Thelema5> Same manager who instructed me to do it, nonetheless
21:49 <FreeTirek> you didn't get fired, it still isn't that bad
21:50 <Thelema5> Not terrible, but not the way I choose to live my life.
21:50 <FreeTirek> I would do that job for the rest of my life, I wouldn't mind
21:50 <Thelema5> I've put in my time doing crap work for crap people earning crap pay. I'd prefer to find something else this go around.
21:51 <FreezeFrame> Getting in trouble for something you were explicitly instructed to do by the same person is acceptable? Do you have no dignity, Tirek?
21:52 <FreeTirek> Sometimes I just have to be the doormat for the day.
21:53 <Thelema5> No doubt- every job has it's bad days. But when it's part of your job description? No thanks.
21:53 <FreeTirek> (just gonna change my name in case somepony mistaken me for somepony else)
21:54 *** FreeTirek is now known as Kettlecorn
21:54 <Thelema5> Heh
21:56 <Kettlecorn> I guess I just have really low standards from all you guys
21:56 <Kettlecorn> compare to*
21:59 <Thelema5> For me I think it's just a matter of having attained a certain level of professional achievement; I've become rather fond of my private office, having free agency in my daily affairs, and working to acheive tangible goals on my own terms. It's been 10 years since I've worked under someone else's mandates.
22:00 <Thelema5> I've brought in more than 20 million in sales for my current company over the past 5 years, and 40 million for the company I worked for before this one.
22:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Episode Poll Results: What Episode of Season 7 Was Best? (Part 2!) [ http://tinyurl.com/yawwpstb ]
22:00 <Thelema5> So yeah, I'm not too keen to start bagging groceries for some jerk
22:01 <FreezeFrame> Yeah, now that I'm out of retail, I'm never going back.
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22:02 <FreezeFrame> I might still be in a customer-facing position, but if I'm in the right, my supervisors/managers will back me.
22:02 <Thelema5> That's very important
22:03 <Kettlecorn> I've never worked anywhere other than retail before, that's probably why I couldn't compare
22:03 <Thelema5> I'll just have to do some life / goals evaluation in the near future. Might try going into business for myself if I don't find a position which affords me some personal liberty on the job
22:06 <Thelema5> One thing is certain, I'll not let this setback force me back down the spiral of depression
22:06 <DashedRainbows> good
22:07 <DashedRainbows> I suck at "keeping it together" with adversity
22:07 <Kettlecorn> That doesn't sound good, what happen Thelema5?
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22:08 <Thelema5> I'll also not fall into the habit of killing myself, literally, working endless hours for meager pay again. Not doing the 80+ hour workweeks.
22:08 <Thelema5> Losing my job, Kettlecorn
22:09 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, I suck at it too- but the alternative is too bleak to contemplate
22:10 <FreezeFrame> If you don't find anything immediately, could you not apply for unemployment to tide you through?
22:10 <DashedRainbows> yeah, living fix to fix isn't good
22:10 <Thelema5> FreezeFrame, I guess so? I've never not worked since I was 17... not sure how to do it
22:11 <FreezeFrame> If you don't mind my asking, what state/country?
22:11 <Thelema5> I'll certainly apply for unemployment, I've been paying into it for decades
22:11 <Thelema5> I'm in upstate NY USA. I know there are benefits available, I'm just not sure of the restrictions
22:11 <Cepheid> That was the most ambiguous exam I have ever seen. I feel I had a 50/50 chance of passing it.
22:12 <FreezeFrame> Oh, as long as you aren't fired for gross negligence/misconduct, you're fine.
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22:12 <FreezeFrame> (Or as long as you didn't voluntarily quit)
22:12 <FreezeFrame> You may need to appeal an initial adverse decision, but that's easy.
22:12 <Thelema5> I KNOW that you cannot collect unemployment here for any day in which you perfomed ANY work, even if it was only for a few minutes. Which sucks, because I'll still have my freelance work and will have to choose one or the other
22:13 * FreezeFrame is also Upstate NY
22:13 <Thelema5> Oh! A neigh-bor
22:13 <Thelema5> :P
22:13 <FreezeFrame> So I've actually done the exact same unemployment, just that I did it over a decade ago.
22:14 <FreezeFrame> Anyway, I need to get my rear in gear, I've got a 12 hour OT shift tonight.
22:14 <FreezeFrame> Which means I need to be to work in under 2 hours
22:14 <Thelema5> I've never had to collect before but I think it's absurd that it would prohibit me from taking on side work
22:14 <Thelema5> Good luck!
22:15 <FreezeFrame> I'd say limit your freelance work to only doing it on specific days
22:16 <Thelema5> Yeah
22:16 <Thelema5> Out of curiosity, what county are you in? If you don't mind sharing.
22:17 <Thelema5> <-- Ulster County Catskills
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22:19 <FreezeFrame> Onondaga County
22:19 <Thelema5> That's not so far.
22:20 <Thelema5> The fingerlakes have some great vineyards
22:20 <Thelema5> XD
22:20 <Cepheid> I am not entirely certain what a county is.
22:20 <FreezeFrame> Subdivision of a state.
22:20 <Cepheid> I see.
22:20 <FreezeFrame> If you're from Louisiana, it's the same thing as a Parish
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22:22 <Cepheid> Apparently counties exist in Canada. Huh. Learn something new every day.
22:23 <DashedRainbows> y'all two should meet up.
22:23 <Thelema5> New York has 62 counties, they exisit as the most basic local government. The heirarchy of government in New York is Federal --> State --> County --> Town --> Hamlet
22:23 <Cepheid> I live in a single-tier municipality.
22:24 <Cepheid> Apparently a municipality is higher than a county in the tiered setup.
22:25 <Thelema5> So the hamlet I live in, Stone Ridge, is a small community bound together with it's neighboring hamlets under a town government- in my case the Town of Marbletown. That town has a local government which enacts policies for each hamlet. The county serves the same role in dictating policy for the towns with it.
22:25 <Thelema5> *within
22:26 <Thelema5> Local elections get messy.
22:27 <Thelema5> :p
22:27 <Cepheid> Right. I don't fully understand all of this. I'm sure it would be of value to me somehow if I was working a government job, buuuut..... I'm not.
22:27 <Cepheid> All I know is that I live in Orleans, which is a subdivision of Ottawa created by annexation more or less.
22:28 <Cepheid> Orleans used to be its own town. Then the city of Ottawa amalgamated a bunch of nearby towns into itself.
22:28 <Thelema5> All I know is that I pay taxes to too many govenments.
22:29 <Cepheid> Orleans, Kanata, South Keys, and so on.
22:29 <Thelema5> Right
22:29 <Cepheid> Could be worse. If you work across province lines from where you live, you pay the taxes for both provinces.
22:30 <Thelema5> Yuck
22:31 <Cepheid> Happens to a lot of people that live in this city, or the city across the river.
22:31 <Thelema5> Wel I'm going home. Or rather, leaving work to go grocery shopping. I'll be sure to remain courteous and considerate to the workers there.
22:31 <Thelema5> XD
22:31 <Thelema5> Bye!
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22:35 <Schism> Ahh, these cookies will work well.
22:42 <Cepheid> Xenoblade 2 Nintendo Direct tomorrow evening. Gonna have to watch it.
22:42 <Cepheid> One of the few games this season that I am interested in.
22:44 <Cepheid> Also my back/neck is doing better now. Suffered wry neck.
22:44 *** CookingWithNossy is now known as The_Nostalgia_Mare
22:45 <Schism> Cepheid: Ah, glad that you can move your neck now. @_@
22:45 <Schism> Also, nom. Chocolate cranberry oatmeal cookies = <3.
22:46 <Cepheid> Don't know how I got it. Probably from a mixture of stress and a long sleep on Friday.
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22:57 <Librarian> back
22:57 <Kettlecorn> Welcome back Librarian
22:58 <Librarian> i can work again, i feel fresh owo
22:58 <Kettlecorn> Did you have a nice nap?
22:58 * Librarian gets out the hairblower
22:58 <Librarian> giant popcorn!
22:58 <Kettlecorn> yay!!
22:59 * Kettlecorn pops!!!
22:59 <Librarian> its so beautifull
22:59 * Librarian gets out the butter with a tear in his eye
22:59 <Librarian> om nom nom
23:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: What Are You Doing During the Hiatus? [ http://tinyurl.com/y92cstvo ]
23:02 <Kettlecorn> There is still some corn left that hasn't pop, we need something with more heat
23:03 <Kettlecorn> If only Celestia could move the sun close to Equestria
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23:10 <Schism> Ah, new cookies done.
23:10 * CleverDerpy falls out of the sky on fire
23:11 <CleverDerpy> aaaaaah!
23:11 * Schism puts down a glass of water.
23:13 * Librarian roasts a marshmallow
23:14 <Librarian> toasty
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23:16 * CleverDerpy stops derps and rolls
23:16 <CleverDerpy> last time I got into the dragon realm
23:18 * Cepheid sprays water onto the sky.
23:19 * The_Nostalgia_Mare applies topical burn cream on CleverDerpy.
23:22 <Cepheid> Why were you in the dragon realm?
23:23 <Librarian> they make great marshmallows
23:26 <CleverDerpy> derpy's muffins were stolen
23:26 <CleverDerpy> by some teenage dragons
23:26 * Schism steals some roasted marshmallows, and uses them to make cornflake treats! Provides one to CleverDerpy.
23:26 <Cepheid> Great idea, OSAP. E-mail me saying you made changes to my OSAP funding amount, then immediately go into a day-long maintenance.
23:26 <CleverDerpy> she got them back...
23:27 <CleverDerpy> at a skydiving cost, on fire!
23:28 <CleverDerpy> You need to hire a lawyer, may I suggest OSNAP, Crackle and Popp
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23:29 * CleverDerpy noms all the yummy treats she's offered
23:29 <CleverDerpy> thankies
23:29 <CleverDerpy> that would be hysterical,
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23:30 <CleverDerpy> can you imagine if there's a lawyer group literally called O'Snap, Krackle and Popp.
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23:30 <CleverDerpy> that actually sounds like a set of dragon lawyers
23:30 <CleverDerpy> we already know one~
23:32 <Cepheid> ...
23:33 <Cepheid> Provincial elections for Quebec. What's the turnout? 38%.
23:33 <Cepheid> Geezus cripes.
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23:49 <Cepheid> ...
23:49 <Cepheid> Why did they bother doing a study on "giving kids too much cough medicines is bad for them."?
23:50 <Cepheid> Is that like, not common sense?
23:51 <Ali> Cepheid, this it 2017
23:51 <Schism> ... https://imgur.com/a/PE8aY
23:51 <Ali> Common Sense doesn't exist anymore.
23:51 <Schism> Cepheid: This, ah... maybe they wanted to figure out what the actual impact is?
23:51 <Ali> You shouldn't OD on any meds anyway.
23:52 <Cepheid> Schism: It was a literal study on whether or not overdosing hurt children.
23:52 <Cepheid> That's it.
23:52 <Cepheid> That's all it covered.
23:52 <Schism> Well... yes.
23:53 * Cepheid sighs.
23:54 * Schism grumbl.
23:54 * Ali squeaks!
23:56 * Cepheid looks for videos Xenoblade 2 related. Sorts by upload date. Is flooded by almost 200 videos exclaining that there is a Nintendo Direct on the 7th!
23:57 <Schism> Hey, Cepheid, did you know there's a Nintendo Direct on the 7th regarding Xenoblade 2?
23:57 <Cepheid> Yes.
23:57 <Cepheid> Yes I know.
23:57 <Schism> Cool! And did you know that there's a Xenoblade 2--
23:57 * Cepheid smacks Schism.
23:57 * Schism flies off.
23:58 <ADragonDreaming> Hey Schism.
23:58 <Schism> Myes?
23:59 <ADragonDreaming> There's a Xenodirect on the Ninth regarding Bladetendo 27.
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