00:00 <Chaosweaver> Umm. Yeah. I know what a netsplit is, thanks.
00:01 <Chaosweaver> I used to own an IRC network back in 2003-2005.
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00:05 <Snapai> They aren't NEARLY as tasty as a banana split, unfortunately.
00:05 <Snapai> https://twitter.com/Snapai/status/936023075837104128 :D
00:06 <Librarian> https://imgur.com/a/SuZ5J
00:06 <Librarian> owo
00:06 <Librarian> ma doggie
00:06 <Librarian> i love that pic, just took it
00:11 <Librarian> he looks so cute
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00:30 <Colgate> Starlight_Glimmer: technically there was a split, since discord was linked through derpy to cadance :P
00:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> Heh I didn't see that, but did mention the possibility
00:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> Disconnected too early
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00:32 <Starlight_Glimmer> Also since when is Discord linked over Derpy ? Wouldn't it make more sense the other way around?
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00:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> I assume they are on the same physical machine, so it doesn't really matter, but if not you'd basically require both ipv4 and 6 to operate on the same machine for the link to be stable.
00:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> Whatever I need sleep :)
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00:44 <Librarian> http://fav.me/dbv9dn2
00:44 <Librarian> i drew my akita owo
00:44 <Librarian> it came out nice
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00:49 <Colgate> Starlight_Glimmer: they are on different physical boxes
00:50 <Colgate> Discord and derpy are usually directly linked, since both eu, makes more sense that way
00:50 <Colgate> Instead of making the packets cross the Atlantic twice
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00:55 <Starlight_Glimmer> The Atlantic wouldn't care :P But yeah. I was thinking redundancy. This way if one dies both go down. Since these are the EU servers as you mentioned you'd disconnect a lot of users with a single failure. Kinda surprised automatic failover between two links isn't a thing.
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00:56 <Starlight_Glimmer> IRC isn't aging all that well
00:57 <Snapai> There's always RocketChat I guess?
00:57 <Snapai> I don't know if that uses multiple servers or not tho
00:58 <Starlight_Glimmer> My employer uses it
00:58 <Starlight_Glimmer> And it sucks
00:58 <Snapai> I want something with rocketchat's independence and highlights-in-the-scrollbar, Telegram's stickers, and Discord's overall ease of use and interface.
00:58 <Snapai> (and voice and video chats)
00:59 <Starlight_Glimmer> Sl
00:59 <Starlight_Glimmer> Ups
00:59 <Snapai> Slups?
00:59 <Starlight_Glimmer> Touch typing is painful... Anyway what I wanted to say is Slack us quite nice IMHO
01:00 <Snapai> Every slack chat I've been in has gone down in flames.
01:00 <Starlight_Glimmer> However centralized etc etc
01:00 <Snapai> Also corporate-hosted, centralized, pay for features that others do for free, etc.
01:01 <Snapai> Well it doesn't matter because US internet's gonna turn back into a pumpkin in december when the FCC ignores the people and removes net neutrality. x.x
01:01 <DashedRainbows> Xz
01:01 <DashedRainbows> Oops that was an accident
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01:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> You can always seek refuge in Mexico Snapai :D
01:03 <Snapai> I'd go to Canada but I'd need a work permit :\
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01:07 <Starlight_Glimmer> But it's cold in Canada. I think that's how that works :D
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01:21 <Thelema5> Librarian, cute pupper
01:23 <PinkieShy> I'm not one to hate.. Ever..
01:23 <PinkieShy> But what happened on geekshed pushed me over the Edge.
01:23 <PinkieShy> Not only do i hate that network but i want it destroyed.
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01:27 <ADragonDreaming> my sympathies.
01:29 * Filly_Nightmares sits on ADragonDreaming
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01:30 <Ali> Geekshit? Is this from years ago PinkieShy
01:31 <PinkieShy> Ali something happened there recently again
01:31 <Ali> What they do this time?
01:31 <PinkieShy> Banned me over me complaining about AMD... and ignoring me and such..
01:32 <Ali> AMD, as in the processor?
01:32 <PinkieShy> Yea.
01:32 <PinkieShy> AMD FX series.. :/
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01:32 <PinkieShy> The guy that banned me was the one that even recommended me this PC saying its godly and still revelivent..
01:32 <Ali> Geekshit wasn't known for being nice
01:32 <Tempest-Shadow> so you want them destroyed because they kicked you out?
01:32 <Chaosweaver> FX series is garbage. :D
01:33 <PinkieShy> Tempest-Shadow yes and no..
01:34 <PinkieShy> I want them destroyed for how they treated me.. :/
01:34 <PinkieShy> or talked to me or whatever
01:34 <PinkieShy> Kinda seems like they made fun of me for talking about the same stuff over and over..
01:34 <PinkieShy> I can't help that..
01:34 <PinkieShy> I once went 3 months talking about the same thing everyday until my dad pointed it out.
01:35 <Tempest-Shadow> Yeah, that might wear some out
01:35 <PinkieShy> Tempest-shadow a doctor told me thats part of autism.
01:35 <PinkieShy> Which i do have.
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01:38 <Tempest-Shadow> Yeah, figured.
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01:49 <Schism> Found Adra's new hat.
01:49 * Schism also hugs PinkieShy. "Bleh..."
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01:52 <allthefandoms> woah hey uhHH wassup people
01:52 <allthefandoms> this setup is so different from the last time i used it
01:53 <allthefandoms> it's been two years since i've been on here
01:53 <allthefandoms> holy heck
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02:03 <PinkieShy> let me get this straight..
02:04 <PinkieShy> In S7:E20 Fluttershy got sick that would turn her into a tree..
02:04 <PinkieShy> So she cured herself and others... Didn't a few seasons ago she say "I'd like to be a tree"
02:06 <PinkieShy> So she turned down the opportunity
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02:56 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> http://thegameawards.com/awards/
02:56 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> So..dis is a thing.
02:56 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Nintendo is on mostly every catagory.
02:57 * The_Nostalgia_Mare rolls over to Schism.
03:01 * Schism offers The_Nostalgia_Mare some raw carrots with red pepper hummus.
03:01 * The_Nostalgia_Mare noms.
03:01 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Thankies.
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03:01 <Schism> Good to see that Night in the Woods is represented.
03:01 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Nintendo is gonna sweep the awards and Cuphead will get a couple...
03:02 <Schism> I'll be rather disappointed, to say the least, if Mario + Rabbids wins out over XCOM 2.
03:03 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Its the same gameplay basically.
03:03 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Still, PUBG over Nier?
03:03 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Come on!
03:04 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Nier Automata was total GOTY for me.
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03:15 <Ali> What awards?
03:18 <Ali> Wow Nintendo has quite the foothold there with Breath of the Wild and Mario.
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03:20 <DashedRainbows> Hey [1]Thelema5
03:20 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Ali, Yep so did PUBG...
03:20 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Seriously, Why is PUBG on GOTY?
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03:36 * DashedRainbows hugs PinkieShy
03:36 * PinkieShy hugs DashedRainbows
03:36 <DashedRainbows> Eek! How's it going?
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03:39 <PinkieShy> I'm ok.
03:39 <PinkieShy> how are you
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03:43 <DashedRainbows> I'm good too, getting ready to flee the country :p
03:43 <DashedRainbows> I got my Mexican citizenship :)
03:44 <DashedRainbows> I wish but too lazy to apply
03:44 <Thelema5> Go visit librarian
03:45 <Thelema5> Hmm, my enter key isn't working right
03:45 <DashedRainbows> I will in a few months
03:45 <Thelema5> XD
03:45 <DashedRainbows> I'm not kidding
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03:46 <Thelema5> I don't doubt it.
03:46 <DashedRainbows> I will probably go there
03:46 <DashedRainbows> The question is will I stop by
03:47 <DashedRainbows> My dad coerces me to go every year
03:47 <Thelema5> I would go if I could
03:47 <DashedRainbows> Tries to anyway
03:48 <Thelema5> Curious... I submitted ny resume for a job and they called me back about 30 seconds later. Not really for an interview, but to tell me that 96 other people have also applied, and they they'd be sending me a screening email. Whaaaa?
03:48 <DashedRainbows> Being disabled and broke in Mexico City is not fun
03:48 <Thelema5> One would imagine
03:48 <DashedRainbows> Heck, anywhere really
03:50 <DashedRainbows> But visiting a friend is one good aspect
03:50 <DashedRainbows> And I still have some fun
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03:56 <Thelema5> I wonder if this job will work out... it's a social media / digital marketing position with a small community based pharmacy and wellness center... I doubt they really have a need for someone to work on their brand full time
03:57 <Thelema5> Unless they're doing a lot of online sales / hope to do a lot of online sales
03:57 <DashedRainbows> Hmm, probably not
03:58 <Thelema5> They posted it as part time to full time
03:58 <Thelema5> It is in the center of hippie central, the tiny town of Woodstock NY
03:59 <Thelema5> So they're probably kooked out on drugs
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03:59 <Thelema5> Coincidence or not?
04:00 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 i get a new phone Friday
04:01 <Thelema5> Nice!
04:02 <DashedRainbows> Getting drugs is hard
04:02 <DashedRainbows> For me anyway
04:02 <Thelema5> If I get that job I'll have access to a whole pharmacy XD
04:03 <DashedRainbows> Mail me some of the good stuff
04:03 <DashedRainbows> I'll take Xanax and ketamine
04:03 <Thelema5> Ketamine makes me think of the moldy peaches
04:04 <Thelema5> One of their singers was famously a etamine addict
04:04 <DashedRainbows> Good
04:04 <Thelema5> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj_Fuu8TwvY
04:05 <DashedRainbows> Drugs are bad okay kids
04:05 <PinkieShy> DashedRainbows and thelema5 its a good thing i don't drink..
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04:06 <PinkieShy> If i drank i'd probably be drunk right now..
04:06 <PinkieShy> Never tried beer wine or anything like that ever.
04:06 <DashedRainbows> I'm so close to legal esketamine
04:06 * Thelema5 is drinking, predictably
04:06 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, probably best to avoid it
04:06 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 i might go overboard with it if i did :P
04:07 <PinkieShy> Remember what i did with caffeine... oh dear..
04:07 <DashedRainbows> I just avoid it now
04:07 <DashedRainbows> The cravings get so intense if I drink
04:08 <Thelema5> Kimya Dawson, the OTHER singer from the Moldy Peaches had this to say about drinking:
04:08 <DashedRainbows> As it stands alcohol is the only legal depressant
04:08 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/-HWVtnPaWDg
04:09 <Thelema5> Warning there may be some foul language
04:09 <PinkieShy> Maybe Pinkie's brew is alcohol drink flavored to be like cotton candy
04:09 <Thelema5> She's one of my favorite people ever
04:10 <DashedRainbows> Alcohol is *yay*in amazing and dangerous too
04:10 * Ali boops DashedRainbows for lame hiding attmept
04:11 * DashedRainbows is a bad pone
04:11 * Thelema5 drinks too much for real
04:11 <PinkieShy> So is it true what i read?
04:12 <PinkieShy> Equestria Girls is going to get its own series tv show?
04:12 <Thelema5> I guess? I heard web shorts
04:12 <DashedRainbows> No Ingram :(
04:12 <Thelema5> But I'm probably behind the times
04:12 <Ali> With the web shorts Ingram is not on it.
04:12 <PinkieShy> i read it here https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/08/hasbro-investor-webcast-contains-tons.html
04:13 <PinkieShy> at the far right it says Series.
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04:14 <Thelema5> Neat
04:14 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 that has me worried a bit tho XD
04:15 <Thelema5> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNumMmweYBU
04:15 <PinkieShy> What if after season 8 they say MLP Friendship is magic is coming to a series finale and Equestria Girls series replaces it with sedum pony world visits
04:16 <Thelema5> I doubt that will happen
04:16 <Tempest-Shadow> Thats, well...unlikely
04:16 <Tempest-Shadow> they're keen on keeping the seperation - crossovers, maybe, but never full blown replacement
04:16 <Thelema5> Pony toys sell
04:17 <DashedRainbows> Plus, well, ponies
04:17 <Tempest-Shadow> there's a few web shorts of EG out now
04:17 <DashedRainbows> They're pretty cool too
04:17 <Thelema5> I've not seen them
04:18 <DashedRainbows> I've seen the first three
04:18 <Tempest-Shadow> There's about 10 or so
04:18 <Tempest-Shadow> they sorta...blurted out a few
04:18 <DashedRainbows> Cool
04:19 <Ali> LEAKS EVERYWHERE!!!!!!
04:20 * Ali puts Tempest-Shadow in a ship and sails away from the leaks!~
04:20 * PinkieShy hands Ali FLEX Tape
04:20 * Tempest-Shadow ships with Ali. ;3
04:20 <Thelema5> O.o
04:20 <Tempest-Shadow> xD
04:21 <DashedRainbows> I gotta sleep, will likely be on early tomorrow too, but bye
04:21 <Thelema5> G'night!
04:21 <DashedRainbows> See you all Sunday
04:22 <Thelema5> I'll be on tonight until I pass out and then again when I regain consciousness
04:33 <Thelema5> Oooohkaaaay.... my mind is now officially blown. Just found a middle school friend on facebook that used to be super chill but who is now somehow a competitive weightlifter O.o https://www.facebook.com/CristyRose825/videos/10154990683473848/
04:33 <Thelema5> What the everloving heck? She's my age and I can barely get out of bed in the morning
04:34 <Tempest-Shadow> We're all different - don't try to judge your own living situation and compare it with others
04:34 <Tempest-Shadow> you know full well there's a behind the scenes to it
04:35 <Thelema5> I guess. But I used to sneak out of my parents house to go play D&D at her place after hours....
04:36 <Thelema5> And I feel old and useless, while she is still living a vital life
04:42 <Thelema5> Oh great, I just received notice from youtube that HASBRO has claimed copyright of a couple of MLP songs I covered like 3 years ago
04:43 <Thelema5> They'll be running ads on them Great
04:44 <Thelema5> "our video "MLP : FiM BBBFF Acoustic Guitar Cover (finger-picked)", may have content that is owned or licensed by BMG_Rights_Management, but it�s still available on YouTube! In some cases, ads may appear next to it.
04:44 <Thelema5> If this is your performance of a 3rd party song then you can still make money from this video. Click here to change your monetization settings.
04:44 <Thelema5> This claim is not penalizing your account status. Visit your Copyright Notice page for more details on the policy applied to your video.
04:45 <Thelema5> I had forgotten about those embarrasing videos, TBH.
04:47 <Thelema5> Let them make a few pennies, whatever
04:49 <Thelema5> Here, give Hasbro money
04:49 <Thelema5> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMk2KLpC6g
04:53 <Thelema5> This was made when I could still try to play guitar
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05:02 <Thelema5> For the record, this was the best thing I recorded thing for MLP before I had to stop
05:02 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/YdNUZVMRbYQ
05:03 <Thelema5> *recorded from MLP
05:03 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 that's your voice?
05:06 <Thelema5> Yeah, from a few years ago
05:07 <Thelema5> I can't really play or sing right now, out of practice
05:10 <Thelema5> For a while there I was learning to sing and play until a nerve entrapment forced me to stop
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05:23 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 i didn't expect your voice to be so amazing :P
05:23 <PinkieShy> You sound epic
05:24 * DashedRainbows drags Thelema5 out of hiding
05:25 <DashedRainbows> Sleeping is hard
05:33 <DashedRainbows> here's me singing and playing ofc I'm still not very good https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/T2zumxlB/my+heart+stood+still+first+verse.aac
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06:17 <Filly_Nightmares> !hug
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06:19 <Ali> Dere be no derpbot right now
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06:21 * Tempest-Shadow hugs PinkieShy instead
06:22 * DashedRainbows curls up on Ali to sleep
06:22 <PinkieShy> I found Derpy Ali.. She's with The Doc https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380865602119794688/384944516588634112/Capture.PNG
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07:13 <Golden> Good night everyone
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08:20 <Roeni309> I love ponies, they are so adorable
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08:27 <Tirek> Welcome.
08:27 <Tirek> Its 3:30am.
08:28 <roflin> well not in Europe :)
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09:17 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
09:36 * Gladiolus hugs CocoPommel
09:36 * Gladiolus hugs ConfusionRift
09:36 <Gladiolus> o3o
09:37 * ConfusionRift hugs Gladiolus back.
09:37 <Gladiolus> :>
09:39 <ConfusionRift> How it be?
09:39 <Gladiolus> good
09:39 <Gladiolus> working on a paper that requires me to watch movies
09:39 <Gladiolus> this one is awful
09:40 <Tirek> toki
09:40 <Tirek> I made a crepe today.
09:40 <ConfusionRift> How did that go? o_0
09:40 <Tirek> It was alright, but with a lack of stuff to put on, in it, it was basically just an egg.
09:41 <ConfusionRift> Gladiolus: Better than diving on several very lengthy and boringly written books.
09:43 <Gladiolus> honestly i'd prefer the books i could do that in bits on the bus or whatever
09:43 <Gladiolus> this i gotta sit here and
09:43 <Gladiolus> ugh
09:43 * ConfusionRift wakes up. "Huh wha?"
09:47 <ConfusionRift> I tried to make sunny side up eggs. It didn't work... scramble it is!
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10:13 <Tirek> Libre Office base crashed on me yesterday and I lost a lot of work I've done on the denselang.
10:13 <ConfusionRift> 0_0
10:13 <Tirek> However, I've almost recovered the work I've lost. Should finish the dictionary today.
10:13 <ConfusionRift> That suuuucks.
10:14 <Tirek> Yeah. I had a notepad++ file of all the valid syllables for root words, and used that tick on the side to check off which I've used already.
10:14 <Tirek> So, I just had to go back through my list, and try and fit the list back to the already used syllables.
10:15 <Tirek> Along the way, I added new ones that fit the word better, so I have a table of 65 root words, and not all of them are filled out yet.
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10:17 <Tirek> Only have to figure out these last 8 and then I can finish it up.
10:17 <Tirek> Or at least, finish up this iteration.
10:21 <ConfusionRift> Still pretty scary.
10:22 * ConfusionRift takes the tape from Gladiolus VCR, and puts The Exorcist on. He had to watch it for a class... snores fest.
10:23 <Tirek> It was only something like ~50 entries, so it wasn't difficult to recover.
10:24 <Tirek> I've also been continuously saving to make sure if it crashes again, I don't lose anything.
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10:45 <Tirek> ... Today on things that actually happened.
10:46 <Tirek> Accidentally deleted the entire database.
10:46 <Tirek> Will not let me undo deleting entire database.
10:46 <Tirek> I am angry.
10:47 <ConfusionRift> That... happens. Now that's worse.
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10:55 <Tirek> Like, I accidentally selected a column to reorganize the thing. My finger slipped and apparently hit the button that caused the entire table except one entry to delete.
10:55 <Tirek> And I couldn't undo.
10:55 <Tirek> Wait. no.
10:55 <Tirek> Reopened it. Everything is there.
10:55 <Tirek> Weird.
10:56 <Tirek> Libre office is strange.
10:56 <ConfusionRift> Save, copy! Save, copy! 0_0;
10:56 <Schism> Definitely seems like a good time to make backups in triplicate.
10:56 <Tirek> I think I know what happened.
10:56 <Tirek> I clicked the filter.
10:56 <Tirek> So it only showed me the single entry I was already editing.
10:57 <Tirek> Saved a backup just in case
11:03 <Schism> Ahh. So user error rather than anything else. Still glad to hear you didn't lose that much. Yeesh.
11:05 <Schism> Heee. Sometimes you get the option to perform a superb burn. The owner of WeRateDogs, for example. https://www.boredpanda.com/message-ajit-pai-we-rate-dogs/?media_id=message-ajit-pai-we-rate-dogs-7
11:08 <Schism> Oh no.
11:08 <Schism> Those in Australia, I am sorry for your loss.
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11:50 <DashedRainbows> Okay now I'm ready
11:50 <DashedRainbows> at the airport https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VfOwYHPk/IMG_20171130_053834.jpg
11:51 <Schism> Eee! Another chapter of Starlight over Detrot today.
11:51 <Schism> And whee, airport.
11:51 <DashedRainbows> Have fun my little horses
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12:01 <Tirek> And finished.
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12:03 <ConfusionRift> ...Schism?
12:03 <Schism> Hmm?
12:04 * Schism peers at ConfusionRift, boops with a mug of coffee?
12:04 <ConfusionRift> You were looking for the Erchius Eye?
12:04 <Schism> Yea...? Oh, Cepheid's server is up by the way.
12:04 <Schism> Tho it's okay, I has weaponry on server. (And we're doing it with fresh characters on Survival.)
12:05 <Schism> I take it that the Eye dropped for you just now?
12:05 <ConfusionRift> Yep.
12:05 * Schism nods. "I just wanted it for a trophy, mostly."
12:05 <ConfusionRift> https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/859488887972042064/3C5B1FB618306F633B4E542492AF6327C4ED3491/
12:05 <Schism> The weapons I have - the high-quality sniper rifle, the Solus Katana, et cetera - are generally good enough, especially upgraded.
12:06 * Schism nodnods at the eye.
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12:09 * ConfusionRift sighs. I always forget one piece of equipment in the moon station.
12:09 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and as a just in case, what would be the address. (PM if needed)
12:10 <ConfusionRift> I might pop at one point.
12:10 <Schism> That'd be :21025 .
12:11 <ConfusionRift> Got it. Gonna venture solo for a bit. Seems a few things have changed. Also wanted to check some character mods.
12:12 * Schism nodnods!
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12:26 <ConfusionRift> Meeeechs! I forgot about them!
12:27 <Schism> They's awesome. o3o
12:27 * Schism peers at this world. "...Eye biome."
12:27 <Schism> <Apex> I really want to get out of here. I had enough of this panoptica treatment when I was dealing with the MiniKnog.
12:29 <ConfusionRift> Oh, you're in one of them alien worlds.
12:29 <Schism> Nah, this is just a minibiome. Forest world.
12:29 <ConfusionRift> Right. I just tend to find them in alien worlds.
12:31 <Schism> They are likely much more common there, aye.
12:34 <Schism> And now to make 10 flags so I don't run out. ._.
12:36 <ConfusionRift> Eeeerm... does one travel? They changed the UI.
12:37 <Schism> You can move to any point in the system... you might need to zoom out tho, by clicking around the edge of the window.
12:37 <Schism> You need to kill the Erchius Horror first tho.
12:37 <Schism> Which you did, heh. Did you talk to the captain afterwards?
12:37 <ConfusionRift> Already did, and got the FTL fixed.
12:40 <ConfusionRift> Oh!
12:40 <ConfusionRift> That is NOT self explanatory.
12:40 <Schism> Yeah...
12:41 <ConfusionRift> But it's much faster and I can go basically anywhere... with enough fuel.
12:42 <Schism> And most jumps are, I believe, 100 units.
12:43 <Schism> Hmm, Hylotl village on one side, Floran next to it... o3o
12:49 <ConfusionRift> Well, that was scary. The game halted for a while.
12:51 <Schism> Ah, sometimes it does slow or halt for a second.
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12:56 <ConfusionRift> See, I was okay and chill, till you started chucking arrows at me!
12:57 <Schism> Hah.
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12:58 <Schism> Hum. Just one more MModule for Optics.
12:58 <Schism> Well, Optics 1.
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13:03 * ConfusionRift regrets eating the mechanical fruit.
13:07 <Schism> They are better cooked...
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13:15 * Schism boops Adra with some Oculemonade.
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13:36 <Schism> Yaaay.
13:36 <Schism> Hylotl crew member ++.
13:38 * ConfusionRift grins. He has a mining laser.
13:40 <ADragonHoarding> what, is Rifty in there now too?
13:41 <ConfusionRift> Haven't jumped on server yet. I'm checking the new stuff, and messing around with mods a bit.
13:41 <ADragonHoarding> ah.
13:41 <ADragonHoarding> fyi server has no mods and doesn't allow mismatched assets
13:41 <Tirek> I've returned.
13:42 <Tirek> And I have an example of my super dense conlang. "pubapjikinapin wumab natsungihin. nanguk kuhupgiwakig papik. nakap pukapapim wutsibjuwup. kawamgikapipim kuman napilina'haka'kun."
13:42 <ConfusionRift> Hmm. I think I can deactivate them before jumping in.
13:42 <Schism> Back up your universe files before doing so.
13:43 <Tirek> I think this is as dense as I can make it.
13:43 <ADragonHoarding> you have to move the mods out of the workshop folder unfortunately
13:43 <ADragonHoarding> I wasn't able to find an ingame method for deactivating them.
13:44 <ADragonHoarding> When I get home I'll probably put them back on the desktop and use that for solo play only
13:46 <Schism> Tirek: That... is indeed ridiculously dense.
13:46 <ConfusionRift> I could probably migrate most of the data somewhere else, play on server, and then migrate it all back when I plan to play solo.
13:47 <Tirek> It's not as dense as Ithkuil, but I've approached it as best as I could.
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13:48 <Tirek> The text translated to "Small Sun lowered to earth. hand must contain battle tools. evil is planted deep within. Heart, soul, and mind desire evily for wealth."
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13:48 <Tirek> I'm going to be using it for the campaign I'm running to test out Open Legend.
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13:49 <Tirek> Bunch of little kobold guys that speak a tribal language, and this sounds pretty tribal.
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13:54 <ADragonHoarding> nice
13:56 <ConfusionRift> Blorg. Will check on that later. Sleepy time.
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14:11 <Finwe> Good afternoon, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
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14:16 <ADragonHoarding> I am a pterodactyl.
14:16 <Schism> Is you now.
14:17 <ADragonHoarding> Yes, but only today.
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14:24 * Finwe noms on ADragonHoarding's winged fingers.
14:24 * Schism waits for pineapple and kiwi to grow.
14:24 * Finwe waits for Linux kernel to compile.
14:25 <Finwe> Basically, these two are rather similar things.
14:25 <Finwe> Both take a long time and result in things that should not used as pizza topping.
14:26 <Schism> Heynow. o3o;
14:26 <Finwe> o3o
14:27 <ADragonHoarding> well, Kiwi, I don't know about on pizza
14:27 <ADragonHoarding> Pineapple, however, is delicious.
14:27 <ADragonHoarding> And the haters are that vocal minority, based on the popularity of Hawaiian pizza in general.
14:27 * Schism upgrades ship.
14:28 <ADragonHoarding> Which ship? Harry/Ginny? Rarijack? Team Jacob?
14:28 <Finwe> Pineapple is delicious, but mixing it with pizza in any way is just horrendous.
14:28 <Schism> Finwe: I shall fite ye. o3o What about on a dessert pizza tho? With kiwis and cream cheese...
14:29 <Finwe> I've never had dessert pizza. :/
14:30 <ADragonHoarding> Sorry mate. Pineapple on pizza is awesome.
14:30 * Schism noddles.
14:31 <ADragonHoarding> If you don't like it, that's cool.
14:31 <ADragonHoarding> More for me.
14:32 * Schism peers, wondering what to get next. "Welp. Got two crew members... can probably get two more, but I can hold off for now. I believe next is..."
14:32 <ADragonHoarding> huh: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/11/29/scientists-call-for-global-glitter-ban-to-save-environment.html
14:32 <Finwe> Schism: But there have never been any other crew members apart from Dr. Beverly Crusher.
14:33 <Schism> Adra: Those wacky scientists! First they say that climate change is real, now they say that glitter is causing harm! They'll just say anything, won't they?
14:33 <Schism> You should listen to the oil companies instead. They don't have an agenda.
14:33 <ADragonHoarding> That was a weird episode.
14:33 <ADragonHoarding> I forget what Negative Space Wedgie caused all that to happen
14:33 <Finwe> Indeed.
14:34 <Finwe> ADragonHoarding: It was a warp bubble created by Wesley's experiment with the warp drive.
14:34 <ADragonHoarding> Also, huh, didn't realize that was a Fox News article.
14:35 <ADragonHoarding> Seems too non-opinionated for that.
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14:37 <Schism> Seems that way, certainly.
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14:47 * Schism seems to be learning how to craft every set of Mech Legs. No boosters, though.
14:48 <ADragonHoarding> hehehe
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14:54 <CocoPommel> I hate getting pinged because someone couldn't type another letter or two to get auto complete to spell the correct name
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14:55 <CocoPommel> Not only that, but they don't bother fixing the error before pressing enter, rather, they would prefer to type an entirely new message
14:55 <CocoPommel> Twice in the last two days...
14:56 <CocoPommel> I don't think I've personally ever mis-pinged someone because I meant to ping someone else with the same two letters starting their name
14:56 * Finwe patpats CocoPommel.
14:57 <CocoPommel> "Oh, someone wants to talk to m- oh......." <- mfw that happens
14:57 <CocoPommel> Hi Finwe
14:57 <CocoPommel> ./rant
14:57 <Finwe> Hullo.
14:58 <Schism> hOi.
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15:01 <Finwe> o3o!
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15:03 <Schism> Huzzah, Floran #2 get.
15:05 * Cepheid flops in.
15:07 * Schism flops on.
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15:17 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/XenobladeJP/status/936129635502325760 You know, I wasn't expecting to be right about this. KOS-MOS in Xenoblade 2 as a blade.
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15:20 <ADragonHoarding> is xenoblade 2 an always online thing?
15:21 <Cepheid> Nope.
15:21 <Schism> Lemme see...
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15:23 <Schism> Ah, dungeon exit get.
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15:25 <ADragonHoarding> Ah, okay.
15:26 <ADragonHoarding> So if you don't want the goofy stuff, you can just ignore it.
15:26 <Cepheid> Pretty much.
15:32 * Pi boops Schism
15:33 <Cepheid> Appears that KOS-MOS in Xenoblade 2 was a bit of a shock for the world. The topic "KOS-MOS" was trending for a few hours this morning.
15:36 * Schism boops Pi in return. "Oh, Cepheid. Found that Hylotl village you were looking for last night. And a Floran one nearby."
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15:36 <Cepheid> I wasn't looking for it. I knew where one was, rather.
15:36 <Cepheid> However the Floran Village is useful.
15:37 * Cepheid makes some oatmeal.
15:38 * Schism adds some diced apples and cinnamon to Cepheid's oatmeal.
15:41 * Cepheid prefers it plain. Also checks his blood-glucose. Going down slowly, 9.8.
15:41 <Schism> Super high last night?
15:42 <Cepheid> Nah. It's just been stable at around 11 or so for the last few days.
15:42 <ADragonHoarding> I'll see about a wired connection via laptop when I get home.
15:43 <ADragonHoarding> Didn't actually get super far with desktop Salinda, might just remake.
15:43 * Schism nods, and ahhs to Cepheid.
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15:44 <Cepheid> Seriously, get a temporary 25meter cable or something. Hanging a cable all the way from upstairs to downstairs is not that unusual, for temporary stuff. I plan to get a long cable so I can use the room downstairs as an office.
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15:44 <Librarian> owo
15:44 <ADragonHoarding> Well
15:44 <ADragonHoarding> to reach my room from the living room router I'd either have to cut the wall
15:44 <Librarian> we just had a rather flashy electric failure 2 houses down
15:44 <Librarian> everythng fluctuated, there was fire
15:45 <Librarian> people feeling
15:45 <Librarian> i mean fleeing
15:45 <Cepheid> Power surge, sounds like.
15:45 <Librarian> yep
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15:45 <Cepheid> Someone either toying with electricity, or poor wiring in the house.
15:45 <ADragonHoarding> or run it around the outside of the living room, up the side of the stairway, which has a landing and doubles back, across the second floor common area going in front of the door to the study, into my room, across my closet, and to my computer.
15:45 <Librarian> we are fine and all, but i was worried that i had to get my dad and my doggies out faster
15:45 <Librarian> i bet on poor wiring
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15:47 <ADragonHoarding> and then I'd be poking holes in the walls to secure it with those holders and it's my parents' house, so.
15:47 <Librarian> quite a way to start the day owo
15:47 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/t/cats/alhNBkR
15:48 <Cepheid> I'm pretty sure I could hide a 50-meter wire going all the way downstairs from my parents sight.
15:48 <Librarian> https://imgur.com/a/SuZ5J
15:48 <Librarian> cute pic i took
15:49 <Cepheid> It'd have to be white in colour, and to avoid damage to the flooring and walls, I'd have to use white tape to hold it down.
15:49 <Schism> There are means and means. For example, we use those sorts of temporary hooks which don't damage the drywall.
15:49 <Schism> And are held in place with adhesive strips.
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15:50 <Cepheid> Unfortunately I can't do that approach. But the method I have in mind could potentially work.
15:50 <Cepheid> All the baseboarding and stuff around the doors is white as a ghost. If I carefully attach the wire to it, it'll blend in. Parents presumably wouldn't notice, at which point I'd start counting the days until they DO notice.
15:51 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
15:53 <Cepheid> Hoi.
15:53 <Cepheid> Tutorial at 4 PM today... already finished it. Just need to demonstrate and submit. I'll be on the bus longer than I'll be in the classroom.
15:53 <Cepheid> And tomorrow I need to be awake at 7 AM.
15:54 <Cepheid> My appointment was rescheduled for 10 AM tomorrow.
15:54 <ADragonHoarding> the living room walls are red
15:54 <ADragonHoarding> but also I'm not about to hide anything from them
15:55 <Cepheid> I'd mostly just do it to annoy my parents and to see how long it takes them to notice.
15:55 <ADragonHoarding> heh
15:58 <Cepheid> My nose won't stop itching. It's been doing this for over a week now and it's starting to get irritating.
15:59 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/C6Cd3EC.gifv
16:00 * Schism saves a kitty. Gets a kitty hat, lets the bunny fall in the lava.
16:00 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/t/cats/tpEbc ... Now this is an interesting way to take a cat for a walk outdoors.
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16:02 <Jahnesta> Hey
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16:03 <Cepheid> Hoi.
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16:04 <Jahnesta> Akira!
16:04 <Jahnesta> DashedRainbows!
16:04 <Jahnesta> :P
16:04 <Akira> Hey bro
16:04 <Cepheid> My dad brought home something that's gonna drive the cats nuts.
16:05 <Cepheid> Flashlight with a laserpointer mode.
16:05 <Jahnesta> xD
16:06 * DashedRainbows is a California mare
16:06 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c6KYVPjrOw
16:08 * DashedRainbows sits on Jahnesta
16:08 * Jahnesta Falls over
16:08 <Jahnesta> \I'm not a chair!
16:08 <Jahnesta> I'm
16:09 * DashedRainbows is sorry, hugs
16:09 <Jahnesta> Is oki
16:09 * Jahnesta Purrs
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16:09 <DashedRainbows> You look soft
16:09 <Jahnesta> I is very fluffy
16:09 <Jahnesta> Not on a FlufflePuff level tho
16:10 <DashedRainbows> I'm chilling at LAX while my phone charges
16:10 <Cepheid> I like how people regularly argue that a cat on it's back, revealing it's stomach is an invitation to rub it's belly. That's not what the body language is saying.
16:10 <Jahnesta> LAX?
16:10 <Cepheid> Airport in North America, Jahnesta.
16:10 <Jahnesta> Are you going somewhere DashedRainbows?
16:11 <DashedRainbows> Thank you Cepheid
16:11 <Cepheid> They have longer names, but are often referred to by their 3-digit ATC code.
16:11 <DashedRainbows> Jahnesta: yes
16:11 <Cepheid> And because I suspect you're going to ask, ATC - Air Traffic Control.
16:11 <Jahnesta> Ohh
16:12 <DashedRainbows> I'll have LTE this side of the border
16:12 <Jahnesta> And where?
16:12 <DashedRainbows> Part of Mexico
16:18 <Cepheid> Why is my house vibrating?
16:19 * Schism peers at Cepheid.
16:20 <Jahnesta> Maybe you need to turn the heat up
16:20 <Jahnesta> It could be cold!
16:21 <ADragonHoarding> when the EA battlefront 2 thing started happening I was thinking it would be a flash in the pan type thing...
16:21 <Cepheid> There's a vehicle outside making a lot of noise.
16:21 <Cepheid> It's causing the house to shake ever so slightly.
16:21 <Cepheid> I can feel it.
16:21 <ADragonHoarding> now a month later wall street is talking about a need for standards for micro-transaction systems
16:22 <Cepheid> All it takes is someone going one step too far.
16:22 <Cepheid> I'm fine with micro-transactions provided they're cosmetic. They offer no gameplay benefit outside of looking cool.
16:23 <Cepheid> And that idea does work. Path of Exile does it.
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16:23 <Cepheid> The only gameplay-related transaction there is stash slots, and that's about it.
16:24 <Schism> Game, what the heck is causing me to -- oh. Acid rain.
16:24 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:25 <Cepheid> Hum.
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16:25 <Cepheid> University is attending something called the CS Games at Laval University.
16:26 <Cepheid> Got an e-mail asking if I wanted to try out for it.
16:26 <Cepheid> ... Nah, there's a $180 cover for it. Plus there's no guarantee of transportation.
16:26 <Cepheid> I can't drive, so..
16:26 <Schism> Sounds like it might be interesting? Ah.
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16:29 <Cepheid> I should go take a shower. My dad wants to do the groceries after he gets back.
16:33 * Schism nods... then blinks. "Glitch eyeball cultists. That's new."
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16:39 <Nossy|School> Heh.
16:46 * Cepheid returns.
16:46 <Cepheid> Aaand look at that, my dad just arrived home.
16:47 <Schism> Natch. o3o;
16:48 <Thelema5> I just finished completing a "pre interview assessment" for a part-time job with a small local business. The owner informed me that he has received more than 100 applications in the 12 hours after posting his help wanted ad, so the assessment is being used to narrow down the search. What the heck? Last time I checked I live in the middle of nowhere
16:50 <Thelema5> It not like this is a dream job or anything, it's a part-time marketing gig
17:00 * Sleeping_Nightmares licks Thelema5
17:01 *** Sleeping_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
17:01 * Thelema5 tastes like frustration
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17:05 * DashedRainbows tastes of California now
17:05 * DashedRainbows boops Thelema5
17:06 <Thelema5> Are you traveling, DashedRainbows?
17:06 <Thelema5> I know you were planning on going to mexico, but now California?
17:06 <Librarian> owo
17:06 <Librarian> mexico yay
17:06 <DashedRainbows> Yeah, to San Diego atm
17:07 <DashedRainbows> Too bad I can't get my weed card
17:08 <Librarian> owo
17:08 <Librarian> presents arrived
17:08 <Librarian> i gave my dad his captain america funko
17:11 <Thelema5> Yay
17:11 <Librarian> i got ma bro pokemon ultra sun and i got a vader pen for myself
17:13 <Librarian> i also found this artist called illya kushinov, he has a middle ground style i want to adapt to myself
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17:13 <Librarian> he good
17:19 <DashedRainbows> Hey Jahnesta, I finally found an use for my hat
17:19 <Jahnesta> Well?
17:19 <DashedRainbows> I've been wearing it all day
17:19 <DashedRainbows> It be chilly
17:19 <Jahnesta> Yay
17:20 <Jahnesta> Now you're warm AND stylish
17:20 <DashedRainbows> Yup
17:21 <Jahnesta> :3
17:21 <Jahnesta> I'm pretty jelly at that hat actually
17:21 <foxy> jelly is good
17:23 <Jahnesta> :P
17:23 <Jahnesta> You just make that joke every time someone says jelly\
17:23 <Finwe> Goedenavond, mijnheer Jahnesta.
17:24 <foxy> yup thats right jahnesta
17:24 <Jahnesta> Mijnheer Finwe
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17:24 * Jahnesta Doffs his hat
17:24 <Jahnesta> Ha, beat you to it
17:24 <Jahnesta> Heyy
17:27 *** foxy is now known as nightmare-foxy
17:28 <DashedRainbows> It's a nice hat
17:29 <Jahnesta> Comfy too?
17:29 <DashedRainbows> Yeah
17:29 <Jahnesta> Nice :D
17:29 <DashedRainbows> If not for the price I'd have bought a Pinkie one
17:29 <DashedRainbows> Too
17:30 <Librarian> hat
17:30 <Librarian> wut hat
17:31 <Jahnesta> My first choice would be RD too
17:31 <nightmare-foxy> oh one for your pinkie finger
17:31 <DashedRainbows> this hat https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/UUpQZet8/irccloudcapture1935702542.jpg
17:31 <Thelema5> Ooh, nice!
17:31 <Librarian> tis a good hat, important hat
17:32 <DashedRainbows> It doesn't make me faster though
17:32 <Jahnesta> I saw it, yeah
17:32 <Jahnesta> Looks really cool
17:32 <Jahnesta> xD
17:34 <DashedRainbows> I spent far too much attention that con
17:34 <DashedRainbows> At*
17:35 <Jahnesta> Why so?
17:35 <DashedRainbows> I thank the tax payers of the United States
17:35 <DashedRainbows> I had about $250 going in
17:36 <Jahnesta> Yeah?
17:36 <DashedRainbows> $45 at the end
17:36 <Jahnesta> Omc
17:37 * DashedRainbows thanks Thelema5
17:37 <DashedRainbows> He pays taxes
17:37 * Thelema5 waves
17:38 <Thelema5> They even take taxes out of my unemployment check, apparently
17:39 <Thelema5> Leave it to the US to tax people who aren't even working
17:39 <DashedRainbows> But I did get the autograph of best show creator, best writer, and best va
17:40 <Thelema5> Yay!
17:40 <Jahnesta> :D
17:40 <DashedRainbows> Think of this Thelema5 some of that money goes to me
17:40 <Jahnesta> If foxy weren't here, i would once again say i'm soo jelly!
17:41 <DashedRainbows> It was awesome
17:41 *** nightmare-foxy is now known as foxy
17:42 <DashedRainbows> Your money goes to ponies anyway
17:43 <Thelema5> Nah, I never buy myself stuff
17:43 <Jahnesta> No?
17:43 <DashedRainbows> Gasp
17:43 <Thelema5> All the pony stuff I have were given as gifts
17:44 <Jahnesta> That's quite a lot tho
17:44 <foxy> thats sweet
17:44 <Jahnesta> Even that Rainbow onsie?
17:44 <Jahnesta> Onesie
17:44 <DashedRainbows> Mhm
17:44 <DashedRainbows> I have yet to get a onesie pj
17:45 <Thelema5> Yeah, my partner got me that. I've been a fan of the show for 7 years so that's a lot of birthdays and holidays
17:45 <DashedRainbows> I got nothing for Christmas last year
17:45 <Thelema5> Lame
17:45 <DashedRainbows> Except from my mom
17:46 <DashedRainbows> Which gave me brushables
17:46 <Thelema5> D'aaw
17:47 <DashedRainbows> Not really
17:47 <DashedRainbows> The details make it less so
17:47 <Jahnesta> :3
17:47 <Jahnesta> Witch ones?
17:48 <DashedRainbows> I hope my behavior the day before didn't affect that
17:48 <DashedRainbows> I don't know how to say
17:48 <Jahnesta> In English please
17:48 <Jahnesta> ;)
17:49 <DashedRainbows> The ones in the checkout lines at the local Target
17:49 <foxy> oh
17:49 <Jahnesta> But like, Pinkie, or RD
17:50 <DashedRainbows> Not sure which series that is
17:51 <Jahnesta> What pony did you get an brushable of?
17:51 <DashedRainbows> All that series, so Pinkie Fluttershy Rarity Cheerilee etc I already had rd
17:51 <Jahnesta> All of them? Cool
17:51 <DashedRainbows> Indeed
17:53 <Jahnesta> I don't think i would like brushables tho
17:53 <Jahnesta> It would just get stuck in nods if i tried it
17:53 <DashedRainbows> My main is plushies
17:53 <DashedRainbows> <3
17:53 <Jahnesta> :D
17:54 <Jahnesta> At the carnival, i saw some mlp plushies in a claw machine
17:54 <Jahnesta> If i where alone, i would try to win one, i went for Mario instead
17:54 <DashedRainbows> I just bought mine
17:55 <Jahnesta> Always price
17:55 <Jahnesta> But time to shower, brb
17:55 <DashedRainbows> Get squeaky
17:55 <Jahnesta> Or sneaky, not sure if i really am gonna do it :P
17:56 <DashedRainbows> Do it!
17:56 <Thelema5> Do it
17:56 <Librarian> do it for great justice
17:57 <Jahnesta> To the glory of the Sontarian Empire!
17:57 <Jahnesta> Imagine a Sontarian soilder screaming that, and then jost go taking a shower
17:57 <Jahnesta> But brb
17:59 <Librarian> sontarian are potatoes, so soggy potatoe
17:59 * Cepheid flops back in.
18:00 * Schism rides a magic-carpet to see the king of the potato people. And he's completely sane.
18:00 <DashedRainbows> You'll feel better too
18:00 * Cepheid bakes the potato people.
18:00 <Jahnesta> But a clean one
18:00 <Thelema5> Has anypony here tried Taco Bell's potato tacos?
18:00 <Jahnesta> Clean Mr Potato Head
18:00 <DashedRainbows> I think I'm gonna go
18:00 <Jahnesta> xD
18:00 <Jahnesta> Laters DashedRainbows
18:00 <Jahnesta> Good luck!
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18:02 * Filly_Nightmares pushes herself into Schism's floof
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18:02 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KE0njnZXyY < One of those best scenes.
18:03 * Thelema5 snerks
18:03 <Cepheid> Now all Xenoblade needs is something from Xenogears to send fans into a frenzy.
18:03 <Cepheid> But I'm not all sure what would fit in well from Xenogears. Never played it, but from what I understand, it was mostly humans in mechs.
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18:06 <LSRKNG> Anyone here have BF1?
18:06 <Cepheid> Though apparently they're already making references to Xenogears anyways, so..
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18:09 <Cepheid> "Putting games on mute might make it harder to play." Well, yeah.
18:10 <Thelema5> This my be the stocking-stuffingest thing ever https://i.imgur.com/NsOrD8b.gifv
18:10 <Cepheid> Playing games relies on a number of cues. Visual are the most common, but auditory adds to it.
18:10 <Cepheid> Thelema5: Heh.
18:11 <Thelema5> Crappy design strikes again
18:14 <Cepheid> Huh. Hey Schism, interesting bit of information. You know how PC games have configuration settings for graphics, etc?
18:14 <Schism> Yes?
18:15 <Cepheid> Apparently, Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope on the PS4 has a graphics configuration menu.
18:15 <Cepheid> With all the same settings you'd see on the PC.
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18:16 <Schism> Huh, nice. I wonder, though - it's a lot easier to optimize things for a system's hardware, so I wonder why.
18:16 <ADragonDreaming> "Yo-ja"
18:16 <Cepheid> For people who prefer visual fidelity over performance, presumably.
18:17 <Cepheid> You got people who don't mind 30 FPS, while running at the highest settings. Then there are the people who demand 60 or 120 FPS at lower settings.
18:17 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP0vMNWUMAA4j_q.jpg Oh sweet geezus.
18:18 <Filly_Nightmares> I always push my laptop to play at max graphics with 60 FPS at least
18:18 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
18:18 * Cepheid stares blankly.
18:18 <Cepheid> o3o
18:18 <Cepheid> Laptop + 60 FPS = Wat.
18:19 <Filly_Nightmares> Yas
18:19 <ADragonDreaming> very hefty specs
18:19 <Filly_Nightmares> I run Rainbow Six Siege with the ultra HD pack at 60 FPS 1080p
18:19 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
18:19 <Schism> Cepheid: Remember that bug in the original Animal Crossing, where if you didn't save properly, it would load your character... without eyes or mouth?
18:19 * Filly_Nightmares licks Cepheid
18:19 <Filly_Nightmares> I haz a GTX 970M
18:19 <Cepheid> You're either bull*YAY* me, or you've got one of those super-expensive monsters of a laptop that break down at the slightest bit of a breeze.
18:19 <Schism> Characters suddenly became gyroids.
18:20 <Cepheid> Schism: I never really played Animal Crossing all that much.
18:20 <Filly_Nightmares> I have benchmarks too. o5o
18:20 * Schism mms.
18:20 <Cepheid> Oh, I believe you in that case.
18:20 <Cepheid> But I don't trust the reliability of such hardware in laptop form.
18:21 <Filly_Nightmares> o7o
18:21 <Cepheid> My dad especially hates the XPS systems equipped like that.
18:21 <Cepheid> They're a pain in the butt to take apart and repair, and they break down a LOT.
18:21 <Filly_Nightmares> I'm able to run every game I own on Steam with max graphics at 60 FPS. Even games like Prey. o5o
18:21 <Filly_Nightmares> And Doom 2016!
18:21 <Cepheid> My PC struggles. Which implies there's a bottleneck then, because I'm using a GTX 970 myself.
18:22 <Cepheid> Combined with a GTX 570 for PhysX where possible.
18:22 <Cepheid> Most likely the bottleneck is the 7-year-old CPU, motherboard and RAM.
18:22 <Cepheid> Even with overclocking, it's not able to keep up.
18:22 <Filly_Nightmares> I just has a i7-4710HQ, GTX 970M and 24 gigabytes of 1600 DDR3 RAM
18:22 <Filly_Nightmares> Aw
18:23 <Cepheid> Core i7 2600k, from Q1 2011.
18:23 <Cepheid> I'm running 16GB of DDR3 RAM, myself.
18:23 <Filly_Nightmares> 24. O3O
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18:23 * Filly_Nightmares sits on ADragonDreaming
18:23 <Cepheid> Yeah, your CPU is a tad more recent than mine. Fourth generation over second gen.
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18:24 <Schism> 12 here. CPU's a nice AMD FX-8320, tho.
18:24 <Cepheid> I actually wouldn't mind a 6th or 7th gen in a laptop form, even if it's just integrated graphics.
18:24 <Filly_Nightmares> I overclocked mine to 3.6 from 3.5
18:24 <Cepheid> I could probably overclock mine at this point.
18:24 <Cepheid> Temperature has dropped enough that the system is complaining to me when I do a cold boot.
18:25 <Cepheid> The CPU fan starts up way too slow for the BIOS's liking.
18:25 <Filly_Nightmares> I wanted a Ryzen 1700 and GTX 1070 but I decided to wait for Ryzen 2 and Volta
18:25 <Filly_Nightmares> My system hovers around 75 C when under heavy load
18:25 <Cepheid> BIOS expects it to run at a minimum of 600 RPM. From a cold boot right now, the CPU fan starts at 500 RPM.
18:25 <Filly_Nightmares> My laptop has dual fans and copper heatsinks
18:25 <Cepheid> So the BIOS whines, saying there's a CPU fan error.
18:25 * Filly_Nightmares noms Cepheid's fans
18:26 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Schism
18:26 <Cepheid> Mind you, I know it's okay. If I reboot the PC afterwards, the BIOS stops complaining
18:26 <Cepheid> It's just because it's so cold in my room that the CPU fan just starts off really slow.
18:26 <Filly_Nightmares> My cousin's FX-8350 is a bit worse than my i7
18:26 * Schism is foodling. Provides Filly_Nightmares with... hmm... choklit chip cookies!
18:27 <Schism> Filly_Nightmares, it's still a good processor tho.
18:27 <Cepheid> I don't know what would be a good upgrade, for myself.
18:27 <Filly_Nightmares> I told him that it wasn't a true 16 core CPU
18:27 <Cepheid> I just know it'll have to wait a year.
18:27 <Filly_Nightmares> 2 cores assigned to one FPU
18:27 <Cepheid> Well, half a year.
18:27 * Filly_Nightmares noms Schism
18:27 * Filly_Nightmares sits on Cepheid
18:28 <Filly_Nightmares> I kinda want an i7-8000K series for my desktop since it outperforms the 1700
18:28 <Filly_Nightmares> And 1800X
18:28 <Filly_Nightmares> I dun remember the exact model number
18:28 * Filly_Nightmares fee
18:28 * Filly_Nightmares feeds Schism floof
18:29 <Cepheid> I'm indifferent to whether it's AMD or Intel. Though my experiences have shown that AMD tends to be more responsive to multithreaded/multiprocessing loads.
18:29 <Cepheid> But yeah, I'll have to wait, because I need to do co-op first and get some money.
18:29 <Filly_Nightmares> I just want the best performance for content creation and video games. o4o
18:30 <Cepheid> Video games, here.
18:30 <Schism> Only issue I have with AMD is that when playing Tree of Savior, it causes the character's head to go all Exorcist.
18:30 <Filly_Nightmares> And Bitcoin hit 11K and dropped to 9.5K USD
18:30 <Filly_Nightmares> I think I might stick to NVIDIA for GPUs
18:30 <Cepheid> Schism: That sounds more like a graphics issue than CPU issue.
18:30 <Cepheid> Admittedly, nVidia and Intel are winning out on the graphics front. AMD for whatever reason can't implement proper graphics driver stacks.
18:30 <Schism> It's actually the game screwing up in telling the video card which way the character's facing.
18:31 <Schism> Or something like that.
18:31 <Filly_Nightmares> AMD hasn't really put out anything that'll convince me to get their stuff. The Vega cards aren't really a killer
18:31 <Cepheid> Someone at AMD keeps telling it's lower people to skimp or cut corners on D3D and OpenGL implementations.
18:31 <Filly_Nightmares> Plus I like CUDA acceleration for Adobe stuff like Premiere
18:31 <Cepheid> nVidia at least has reasonable implementations, same with Intel.
18:32 <Cepheid> Intel, you might not have the full implementation, but at least what's there is generally implemented correctly.
18:32 <Cepheid> And if it isn't, it'll be fixed as open source drivers for Linux, etc.
18:32 <Cepheid> nVidia, closed-source proprietary, but they have decent implementations of D3D and OpenGL that don't crash or have glitches everywhere. Vulkan support is up there, too.
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18:33 <Schism> Derp?
18:33 <Jahnesta> Hai
18:33 <CleverDerpy> hiya
18:33 * Filly_Nightmares skrees
18:33 <Cepheid> AMD is half-and-half. Some open source, some closed source. The closed source stuff is what is most important, and AMD can't be bothered to implement OpenGL, D3D or Vulkan properly, even under Windows.
18:33 * Schism boops CleverDerpy with a plate of spaghetti and wheatballs!
18:33 <Cepheid> I would rather nVidia or Intel IGP for graphics on a laptop.
18:34 <Filly_Nightmares> Didn't Intel steal and AMD guy for to make GPUs
18:34 <Filly_Nightmares> o6o
18:34 <CleverDerpy> derp?
18:34 * Filly_Nightmares sits on CleverDerpy
18:34 * CleverDerpy is sitted on
18:35 <Filly_Nightmares> I don't think I'll go AMD at all for my desktop build if I can get an i7 Coffee Lake and an NVIDIA Volta GPU
18:35 <Filly_Nightmares> I wonder how powerful the Volta 60 series will be. o5o
18:35 <Cepheid> I don't recall.
18:35 <CleverDerpy> I really need to do 2 things with my desktop, update my gpu and migrate to a ssd
18:35 <Cepheid> But ideally, I'm going to avoid AMD GPUs for the future.
18:36 <Filly_Nightmares> I only use my SSD for games
18:36 <Filly_Nightmares> Probably not gonna put Windows on an SSD
18:36 <Cepheid> Until such that it is shown that AMD wants to put effort into OpenGL, D3D and Vulkan properly.
18:37 <Filly_Nightmares> Eee
18:37 <CleverDerpy> the problem with ssds in the space
18:37 <Filly_Nightmares> Yas
18:37 <CleverDerpy> cuz they're pretty much vastly superior in every other front to HDD
18:37 <Filly_Nightmares> I use almost all of my 480 gig SSD just for games
18:38 <CleverDerpy> no moving parts, quieter, faster,
18:38 <Cepheid> I have a 250GB SSD myself.
18:38 <Cepheid> I use platter drives for everything but the OS, a few core games, and core applications I use.
18:38 <Filly_Nightmares> The biggest game I have is probably Arma 3 on it with mods
18:38 <Filly_Nightmares> And the DLC
18:38 <Cepheid> The Witcher 3.
18:38 <CleverDerpy> how can you cross over drives?
18:39 <Cepheid> Hmm? Cross over?
18:39 <CleverDerpy> I mean, if you have 2, how can you retrieve then info from 1 or the other effectively
18:39 <Filly_Nightmares> Like those...
18:39 <Filly_Nightmares> Uh...
18:39 <CleverDerpy> the OS is one one
18:39 <CleverDerpy> and your desired info is on the other
18:39 <Cepheid> That's a common scenario.
18:39 <CleverDerpy> I was never able to get dual drives working, despite having the slots and capacities
18:40 <CleverDerpy> on my desktop, not able to work, on my laptop when I had one, worked fine
18:41 <Cepheid> You install the OS on the primary drive. Windows should handle the boot configuration stuff automatically these days.
18:41 <Cepheid> Then you just install applications onto the secondary drive instead of the primary drive.
18:41 <Cepheid> You still have to partition the secondary drive, of course.
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18:48 <Cepheid> If there's anything that's good about 4k resolutions and such..
18:48 <Cepheid> It's that they are slowly killing the need for AA.
18:49 <Cepheid> I got a 40" 4K TV, and what games I *CAN* run on it at 4K with the video card I have, they look beautiful with or without AA.
18:50 <Cepheid> Which is mostly older generation games. The one exception to that would be Factorio.
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18:53 <Filly_Nightmares> I only run 4X anti aliasing on my games.
18:53 <Filly_Nightmares> 1080p only needs it. O9o
18:53 <Cepheid> Most of the time, I just go with 4x myself.
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18:53 <Cepheid> But seriously, as graphics cards get better at running 4k, and now, 8k, AA will become a thing of the past.
18:54 <Cepheid> The density of pixels is so great that it's harder and harder to see the benefit of it.
18:54 <Cepheid> Which is kind of good, as the conventional method of AA is slow, and uses up a lot of GPU memory.
18:55 <Filly_Nightmares> Rainbow Six Siege did something cool with AA
18:55 <Filly_Nightmares> It like ran the game at half resolution and did some AA or something. o8o
18:56 <Cepheid> Yeah, there are more modern approaches that work much faster.
18:56 <Cepheid> I think that one there is FXAA, that or TXAA. I can't recall.
18:56 <Finwe> Lt Cdr CleverDerpy!
18:56 <Finwe> o7
18:56 <Finwe> AB Cepheid.
18:56 <Finwe> o7
18:56 * Finwe snuggles a CleverDerpy and a Cepheid.
18:56 <Cepheid> The conventional method involves rendering the image N times, with a jitter value applied to the view.
18:57 <Cepheid> And then blending all the images together.
18:57 <Cepheid> This means that there are N framebuffers the same size as the display framebuffer. Hence the increased memory usage and performance hit.
18:58 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Finwe
18:58 * Finwe ruffles Filly_Nightmares.
18:59 <Filly_Nightmares> I'm able to run Rainbow Six Siege at max despite the video settings saying that the game will take 4.5 gigabytes of VRAM when I only have 3.
18:59 * Filly_Nightmares ripples at Finwe
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18:59 <Cepheid> The GPU is more closely integrated into the bus system on your laptop, that's probably why.
19:00 <Cepheid> So the time to transfer from system memory to the GPU is probably smaller.
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19:00 <Filly_Nightmares> Eee
19:01 <Filly_Nightmares> Also Chrome takes up like almost 2 gigabytes of RAM for some reason
19:01 <Cepheid> Because it creates multiple processes, and caches a lot of information.
19:01 <Cepheid> Plus there's apparently a feature that pre-downloads connected links, etc.
19:03 <Filly_Nightmares> I only have like 6 tabs open
19:03 <Filly_Nightmares> And an extension that'll compress all of that into a Webpage with links to them and another that'll suspend the tabs after 30 minutes.
19:04 <Cepheid> Suspending a tab doesn't reduce the amount of memory it uses, unless suspending it unloads the website and backbuffers for it.
19:04 <Filly_Nightmares> Yas
19:04 <Filly_Nightmares> I have to reload the tab for the website to do regular stuff
19:05 <Cepheid> In that case, I've not a clue. I know that all the backbuffers that Chrome allocates for a website will take up RAM, and with websites that have infinite scrolling, that'll cause chrome to take up more and more memory over time..
19:05 <Filly_Nightmares> Aw
19:06 <Filly_Nightmares> I do have 24 gigabytes so it doesn't really matter. o4o
19:07 <Filly_Nightmares> And Adobe stuff likes that
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19:10 <Cepheid> Such is the nature of picture editing software and such.
19:12 <Filly_Nightmares> Video Editing!
19:12 <Filly_Nightmares> o4o
19:13 * Filly_Nightmares sits on Cepheid's cheek and skrees at Schism!
19:16 * Schism flings chocolate chip cookies at Filly_Nightmares and Cepheid.
19:16 * Filly_Nightmares nom noms the cookies and stuffs moar floof into Schism's mouf!
19:17 * Cepheid noms.
19:17 * Cepheid dies from sugar overload.
19:17 <Librarian> owo
19:17 <Librarian> art book arrived
19:17 <Librarian> yay
19:17 <Schism> Cepheid: They're not /quite/ that sugary. But they're pretty sweet, admittedly.
19:18 <Cepheid> I know, I know. :P
19:18 <Schism> 1c flour, 1/2tsp. soda, 1/2c white sugar, 1/4c brown sugar, .25c butter, .25c shortening, 1 egg, 1 tbsp. vanilla, as many chocolate chips as you can fit in it.
19:18 * Filly_Nightmares jumps into Schism's mouf! Is floof!
19:18 * Schism spits out the floof! Is drinking coffee.
19:19 * Cepheid had a Monster Energy Drink instead of coffee today.
19:19 <Schism> Coffee would have probably tasted better.
19:20 <Cepheid> Actually not really, since I've started going without sugar in my coffee.
19:20 <Schism> Depends on the Monster, of course. I'm rather a fan of the Monster Rehab...
19:20 <Cepheid> And yes, I know Monster Energy is full of sugar. I get the sugar-free variants.
19:20 <Schism> The Rehab Lemonade is <3.
19:20 <Cepheid> I'm cutting out as much sugar as I possibly can to reduce my blood-glucose.
19:20 <Cepheid> With exception to breads.
19:20 <Thelema5> I could really go for some coffee
19:20 <Cepheid> I'll kill anyone who tries to stop me from eating breads.
19:21 <Schism> Heh, I know how that feels.
19:23 <Thelema5> I don't feel that strongly about any foods that I can think of
19:23 * Finwe prepares to play some Armed Assault 2.
19:24 * Finwe also hats on Schism.
19:24 <Thelema5> I would say ramen, but I haven't allowed myself to eat any in a few months\
19:24 <Schism> Tea, for me.
19:24 <Cepheid> I haven't had ramen in a month or two, myself.
19:25 <Schism> I've gone without soda for a month or so. (Crystal Light doesn't count.)
19:28 <Cepheid> I wonder if and when all these reports and research into which is smarter, cats or dogs, will end.
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19:29 <Thelema5> What metrics are they using? Their behaviors are so radically different that I imagine it would hard tocompare them.
19:29 <Cepheid> Aye.
19:29 <Cepheid> Cats and dogs are behaviourally so different
19:30 <Schism> Cats, of course, are much smarter. <.< Just ask any cat.
19:30 <Cepheid> Plus there's the issue of domestication period. About 10,000 years for dogs, 5,000 for cats, last I heard.
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19:30 <Cepheid> Wait, you have a cat, Schism? Why have I never seen any pictures of it?
19:30 <Thelema5> One of my cats is decidely dumber than the other one
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19:31 <Cepheid> Ours are both stupid as hell when it comes to socializing with other cats. Otherwise, they're experts at getting food, attention and so on.
19:31 <Schism> Cepheid: Haven't got a cat up here. Had a cat when I lived down in Ohio.
19:31 <Cepheid> Ah.
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19:32 <Cepheid> Still no pictures of it?
19:32 <Schism> Alas, they're around here somewhere, but not at the moment. Then again, I don't take many pictures anyway.
19:32 <Cepheid> Ah.
19:33 <Librarian> owo
19:33 <Cepheid> You know, one thing confuses me when people compare Japanese-made games and Western-made games.
19:33 <Librarian> my dogs are surprinsly smart
19:33 <Librarian> or at least i think they are, most be becuase i wub them
19:34 <Cepheid> Why do people get confused when they see large-breasted women or sexy female characters in Japanese games? Last I checked, Western-made games feature the SAME DANG THING. So why the confusion/complaints?
19:34 <Librarian> i can explain
19:34 <Librarian> its the age
19:35 <Cepheid> I disagree with that. Western art has the same problem.
19:35 <Librarian> sexy women in japanese games tend to be young
19:35 <Librarian> as in teen young
19:35 <Librarian> i cant thing of a concrete example, please exemplify
19:35 <Cepheid> I'm familiar with this issue, yes. But the problem exists even in Western cases.
19:36 <Librarian> true, however its more predominant in otaku culture
19:36 <Librarian> its not that big an issue in western culture
19:36 <Cepheid> Still, the confusion is confounding.
19:37 <Librarian> its a matter of taste and morals
19:37 <Cepheid> But I will admit that a majority of the women in Western artwork, for comics and the like, look like they're in their twenties.
19:37 <Librarian> i fopr example dont like oversexualizaed women in my media
19:37 <ADragonHoarding> Librarian: Cepheid's complaint is the double-standard
19:38 <ADragonHoarding> why complain about it in Japanese games but not in Western games?
19:38 <Cepheid> Pretty much.
19:38 <ADragonHoarding> Why throw flak at the JRPG but not WoW?
19:38 <Cepheid> You see oversexualization even in Western games. The age thing is a valid argument, but it's not enough I think.
19:38 <ADragonHoarding> and let me tell you WoW is just as if not more guilty
19:38 * Schism offers, oh... ADragonHoarding the last of the bowl of cookie dough.
19:38 * ADragonHoarding devours
19:39 <Cepheid> Because you'll have cases where even in JRPGs and such, the age is more appropriate, but people still complain.
19:39 <Librarian> i also thing its the way we view japanese media and standards
19:39 <Cepheid> While there are cultural differences between the two, I admit, there are a lot of shared things.
19:39 <ADragonHoarding> I did recently find out why the sprites in Baldur's Gate II were so very busty for the female models
19:39 <Cepheid> Which is probably why I don't see the problem.
19:39 * Schism sets up a figurine of a dancing Godbert Manderville.
19:39 <Cepheid> Sex appeal sells.
19:39 <ADragonHoarding> Actually, no.
19:40 <ADragonHoarding> That wasn't the primary
19:40 <Librarian> i dont have a problem per se, i dont mind sex appeal in moderation
19:40 <Librarian> elegant or cute appeals to me, blatant nsfw doesnt
19:40 <Cepheid> Same.
19:40 <ADragonHoarding> Less exaggerated sprites were rather difficult to distinguish male vs. female
19:40 <Librarian> let me tell you a story
19:40 <ADragonHoarding> due to the size and viewpoint of the game in question
19:41 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
19:41 <Cepheid> The handling of sex appeal though is tricky.
19:41 <Librarian> first time i went to japan i had the fortune to go to akihabara, i stumbled into a place were they were selling nsfw items
19:41 <Cepheid> Because if you increase it, men and women will complain. But if you decrease it, men and women will complain.
19:42 <Cepheid> Librarian: Ah, yes. Well, their views on sexuality, I admit, are a lot different from the Western world.
19:42 <Librarian> the shher atmosphere of shame of the line of customers was overwhelming
19:42 <Cepheid> Trust me, unless they were visitors to the country, the amount of shame they were feeling was negligible.
19:42 <Librarian> i decided form them on not to end like that, i would create something to fit my tastes in that area
19:43 <Librarian> i actually have pondered this quite a lot, my Phonica even complains in my writings about it
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19:43 <Cepheid> There are people who will complain about it in Japan, yes.
19:44 <Cepheid> The issue is that overall, people can't decide if it is to be a taboo topic or not.
19:44 <Librarian> it shoulndt be
19:44 <Cepheid> There are arguments from all sides. Scientific, religious, cultural, moral, etc..
19:44 <Librarian> taboo is bad, let each person decide themselves
19:44 <Cepheid> I'm indifferent to it, myself.
19:44 <Cepheid> So long as no one is being taken advantage of or hurt in the process.
19:44 <Librarian> i dont aproove but i dont impose my view
19:45 <Librarian> exactly, fredoom as long as no one gets hurt
19:45 <ADragonHoarding> thing is that it's possible to argue that oversexualization in the media is actually harmful.
19:45 <Librarian> that it is
19:45 <Librarian> for example the japanese idiol phenomenon
19:45 <Cepheid> It's also arguable that undersexualization is bad.
19:45 <ADragonHoarding> So, it's not exactly something that can be left up to the individual
19:45 <Librarian> tis a hard debate yes
19:45 <Cepheid> Either direction implies that something about the form of the people is "bad".
19:46 <Librarian> a middle point in all things
19:46 <Librarian> balnce is good
19:46 <Cepheid> And like I said, both sides will complain regardless of the direction it goes.
19:46 <Cepheid> I know a number of women who complain when games are censored for their oversexualization.
19:46 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I also know women who complain when a game is oversexualized.
19:46 <Cepheid> Same goes for men as well.
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19:48 <Librarian> if i rember correctly the xenoblade ultimate forms were quite revelaing no?
19:48 <Cepheid> Some of them are oversexualized, yes.
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19:48 <Cepheid> But it seems to be both genders this time.
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19:48 <Librarian> we could very well ask, why not a complete armor
19:49 <Librarian> or even just a bodysuit
19:49 <Cepheid> And it ranges from the "small, petite" to the "large, well-endowed"
19:49 * Cepheid shrugs.
19:49 <Cepheid> Given where it's coming from, it doesn't surprise me.
19:49 <Cepheid> The artists who did the blade designs came from working on Xenosaga.
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19:49 <Librarian> the creators know the otaku taste, and the otaku as a group are not precisly good with women
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19:50 <Librarian> its an oversimplification but its true
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19:50 <Librarian> we could consider they look for the "ideal" woman, a submissive woman that is increibly beautifull
19:51 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNcb4-GUMAESBBW.jpg:large
19:51 <Cepheid> One of the male blades.
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19:53 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM4pPurUEAE-Yuh.jpg:large Xenoblade 2 seems to be attempting to appeal to every type of person, really.
19:53 <Cepheid> Like there are designs that aren't sexualized at all, while there are others that are.
19:54 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL_-8mNU8AAa-LR.jpg:large They even have designs for furries. o3o
19:54 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLb_rLLU8AIk56H.jpg:large And then the plain creepy.
19:55 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLMfuXtVAAARAGp.png:large This is actually one of my favourites. Tora's blade, Poppi.
19:56 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK35_nQUQAAFrO2.jpg:large Meanwhile, this one... I get the impression it was directed at SAO fans.
19:57 <Cepheid> The design is extremely reminiscent of Sinon.
19:58 <Cepheid> And of course, the most recently revealed blade, KOS-MOS.
19:59 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP3OY-VVwAAkRtA.jpg:large
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20:05 <Cepheid> Anyhow, I need to run.
20:06 <Cepheid> Got a tutorial to show off, it'll take me all of 5 minutes. I'll be spending more time on the road than demonstrating.
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20:09 <Filly_Nightmares> Eee
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20:34 <Librarian> hello
20:34 <Librarian> is you haruhi goddess?
20:35 <Librarian> or haruhi host?
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20:35 <Haruhi> I could be a goddess :)
20:35 <Librarian> owo
20:36 <Haruhi> If that explains all the weird things going on for the past 2 years. :D
20:36 <Librarian> its all a matter of wearing a ponytail
20:36 <Librarian> good things happen
20:36 <Librarian> wanna see my goddess?
20:37 <Librarian> http://fav.me/dbv88ii
20:37 <Librarian> goddess of darkness and vengeance
20:38 <Librarian> the mask came out quite nice
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20:58 <Librarian> thelemaaaa
20:58 <Librarian> suuup
21:15 <Schism> Ahh, Durasteel. *obtain*
21:18 <ADragonHoarding> neat
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21:18 <Thelema5> hiya
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21:34 <Thelema5> Blech, I feel sick. I just scheduled a phone interview for tomorrow.
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21:37 <Librarian> i was considering wicca for study on magic
21:37 <Librarian> but i realized that people want none scary magic
21:37 <Librarian> like the unicorn magic, it works becuase its nice4
21:37 <Librarian> no need for overcomlication
21:38 <Librarian> im going to study once and future king, to get pointers on merlin and his magic
21:39 <Schism> And remember to watch the Holy Grail again, to get an accurate rendition of Le Morte d'Arthur.
21:39 <Thelema5> Wicca is more of a religious practice than a magical system
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21:41 <Librarian> thats true , sorta like the thelema
21:41 <Librarian> i dont dislike the thelema method, but the fame of crowley doenst help my case
21:43 <CleverDerpy> i just watched the book of life
21:43 <Schism> Also, non-scary magic doesn't really bode well if you're looking at Merlin, because of Morgan la Fay.
21:44 <CleverDerpy> it was pretty good
21:44 <Thelema5> It's probably best to just stick with elemental magic if you want non-scary
21:45 <Thelema5> Which is basically the same system used in wicca but without any of the trappings of religion
21:46 <Schism> And, ah. Never expect anything nice to come of Faerie.
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21:51 <Thelema5> Aah, phone interview has been shifted to Monday. So I can panic all weekend. :/
21:51 <Schism> :<
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22:10 <Thelema5> Hmm... a earthquake just occured in Delaware.
22:11 <Schism> Delaware state, that is?
22:11 <Thelema5> Yeah, on the US east coast.
22:11 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> ...
22:11 <Schism> Yeesh.
22:12 <Thelema5> Probably the least seismically active place I'd imagine
22:13 <Thelema5> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK_FiRm6ZK8
22:16 <Thelema5> I hate it when I hear a device notification sound I don't recognize from the other room and I can't figure out what it was
22:21 * Cepheid flops back in.
22:22 <Schism> Hoi.
22:22 * Schism requires 2 more upgrade modules. Oi.
22:22 <Cepheid> Quebec's government is being stupid again, I see.
22:23 <Schism> Moar separatism?
22:24 <Cepheid> They passed a motion to prevent stores from greeting people with "Bounjour-Hi" and use exclusively "Bonjour"
22:24 <Schism> How... ...important.
22:25 <Cepheid> Basically just more language enforcement.
22:25 <Schism> The funny thing is that to France, Quebecois French is a horrid, horrid perversion.
22:26 <Cepheid> Likewise in the other direction.
22:26 <Cepheid> I don't understand how that one works, but whatever.
22:28 <Schism> Que sera, sera, or something like that.
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22:30 <Cepheid> Man, Best Buy really is going to wait until the day of release to charge the card and ship the package.
22:32 *** SleepFrame is now known as FreezeFrame
22:32 <Schism> Furrfu.
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22:36 <ADragonDreaming> woof
22:39 <ADragonDreaming> wired - in
22:39 <Schism> Huzzah!
22:39 <ADragonDreaming> installing
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22:41 <Cepheid> I'll be along shortly.
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22:42 * Schism is blasting bats with a slightly overpowered shotgun.
22:42 * FreezeFrame is drinking mint tea due to a sore throat
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22:44 <Schism> Spearmint, I hope!
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22:46 * Schism hugs the FreezeFrame.
22:48 <FreezeFrame> Peppermint, I couldn't get any spearmint, sadly
22:48 <Schism> Awr. Add honey anyway?
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22:49 <FreezeFrame> Yup
22:49 <Schism> Oh, so's ya know, Adra: Server is a bit sluggish right now. I'm guessing updates are ongoing or somewat.
22:52 <ADragonDreaming> aight
22:53 <ADragonDreaming> As I'm starting with a new character
22:53 <Schism> Ahh, gotcha.
22:53 <ADragonDreaming> I'm going to quickly catch her up to where Salinda was on the desktop
22:53 * Schism noddles. "I can provide some weapons, armor, you know."
22:54 <ADragonDreaming> this is rather slow even singleplayer. hm.
22:54 <Schism> It does start out that way, definitely.
23:06 <Cepheid> Raises a lot of questions when the government has to consider a bill of rights for air passengers.
23:13 <ADragonDreaming> oh?
23:14 <ADragonDreaming> also, server info
23:16 * Ali flops over ADragonDreaming. "What game yah playin?"
23:16 <ADragonDreaming> starbou d
23:16 <ADragonDreaming> starbound
23:21 * ADragonDreaming pokes Cepheid
23:22 <Schism> :21025
23:25 <ADragonDreaming> well.
23:26 <ADragonDreaming> wired connection does not appear to have improved lag.
23:27 * Cepheid looks to see if it might be something server-side.
23:27 <ADragonDreaming> ...okay this isn't just lag at this point, the game has been frozen save for my character for the last ...
23:27 <Cepheid> Hum, also, if you don't mind my asking, what is your IP address, so I can ping it?
23:27 <ADragonDreaming> 3 minutes
23:28 <Schism> ... that is weird.
23:28 <ADragonDreaming> ah, with ethernet connected ipconfig is giving me the 192 etc.
23:28 <Schism> S'normal, ask Google what your IP is.
23:29 <ADragonDreaming> 76.112.121.8
23:29 <Schism> Now pinging you a few times.
23:30 <Cepheid> Is anyone else using your connection at this moment?
23:30 <ADragonDreaming> Possibly.
23:30 <ADragonDreaming> I cannot confirm.
23:30 <ADragonDreaming> Nor should it matter, with my router and service.
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23:31 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'm not seeing any packet loss from a ping, so..
23:32 <Schism> Nor I, and the average appeared to be 80mbps.
23:33 <Cepheid> I'm kind of confused as to why it's listening and accepting connections on IPv6, though.
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23:37 <DerpyBot> *derp*
23:37 * Schism deposits 200 erchius fuel, then drops from server.
23:38 <ADragonDreaming> *Derp*
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23:39 <Cepheid> Okay, we're good.
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