00:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: New Pony Game, Equestfold, In Development! [ http://tinyurl.com/y74hat4x ]
00:21 <Librarian> I offered my favorite youtube singers free commisions owo
00:21 <Librarian> I did it out of sincere admiration, hope they take me up to it
00:31 <Librarian> Im cold
00:31 <Librarian> My house is ver cold today
00:31 <Librarian> Brrrr
00:33 <Tempest-Shadow> I love strong cinnamon!
00:37 <Librarian> No cinnamon for you
00:37 * Librarian consfiscates da cinnamon
00:38 <Tempest-Shadow> x3
00:40 <Librarian> Cinnamon tax, pay up
00:41 * Tempest-Shadow >['s at Librarian
00:41 <Librarian> All the proceeds go to the Cepheid fund
00:42 <Cepheid> Wait what?
00:44 <Librarian> Im consficating the cinnamon for great justice
00:44 <Librarian> Its part of a plan to rule da world
00:45 <Librarian> Its not quite clear as to why we need cinnamon just yet, but its a work in progress
00:49 <Cepheid> Hum..
00:49 <Cepheid> An Aetherial claiming to be a traitor. Already seen one, sided with her and it was a good idea. This time, I'm not sure which approach I should take..
00:49 <Cepheid> Do I side with him, or do I kill him?
00:50 <Cepheid> .. I'll take the chance.
00:52 <Librarian> Not even a reaction OwO
00:52 <Librarian> I need to better my material
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00:55 <Librarian> Im getting predictably silly
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00:57 <Cepheid> To be honest, you're targeting the wrong person for jokes. :P
01:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Recall 284 / Snack / Scream / Sable 89 / Pone Wars 4.4 / Shadows 16 / Yourself 242 / Reflection 6 / Descendants 1:30 / Rogue 9:12 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8p3qdsx ]
01:06 <Librarian> Om nom nom
01:06 * Cepheid screams in defiance as he fills the final boss of Ashes of Malmouth with the last few bolts of destruction.
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01:10 <Librarian> Could have usef the cinnamon, as a distraction
01:10 <Librarian> Even eldritch abomination cough
01:10 <Cepheid> It's dead in any case. Certainly more fun than the Loghorrean.
01:15 <Librarian> I dont wanna sleep owo
01:15 <Librarian> I wanna work
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01:24 <Librarian> Derp derp
01:24 <Librarian> Sup
01:24 <CleverDerpy> hiya
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01:53 <Cepheid> Schism: It seems like the Grim Dawn devs are going with an episodic approach. Left a lot open in the ending of Malmouth.
01:53 <Cepheid> Similar to the base game.
01:53 <Schism> Hmmm. I could definitely see that working.
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01:57 <Cepheid> And there's also a choice that, as far as I know, has no immediate positive or negative consequences.
01:57 <Cepheid> Unless you choose the option I didn't take. In which case there would be an immediate consequence, but yeah.
02:03 <Thelema5> What's new?
02:04 <PinkieShy> Google Express is weird..
02:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1320 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8nsee4c ]
02:05 <PinkieShy> they told me they require a bank account for coupons as they put a hold on the full ammount of the purchase Which in my case would be $27 then after they verify that my debit card is not prepaid they apply the coupon to the ammount and take what they need ($3 after coupon)
02:05 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/videocats/status/952475633988374528 Not sure how I feel about this.
02:05 <PinkieShy> good thing they told me.. or i would go overdrafted again..
02:05 <PinkieShy> and i don't need that lol
02:09 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, sounds complicated
02:09 <Thelema5> Cepheid, heh
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02:20 <FruitNibbler> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMPeTrHNX1U
02:21 <FruitNibbler> [ Microsoft Windows 10 Update Interrupts Weather - YouTube ]
02:22 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 do you think this would be good discord icon? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/98609319519453184/402285939994394644/another_dark_jak_icon_by_shadowdivision.jpg
02:26 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, es?
02:26 <Thelema5> *Yes?
02:26 <PinkieShy> Ok :3
02:26 <Thelema5> FruitNibbler, HEH
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02:30 <Cepheid> Right, time for me to wander off to bed. See ye all tomorrow.
02:30 <Thelema5> G'night!
02:33 <DataByte> Bought two things today on clearance
02:34 <DataByte> An alarm clock (turns a light on before the alarm), and a security camera
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02:34 <DataByte> the alarm clock just went off at 8:30pm, even though I have an alarm set for 7:15 am
02:35 <DataByte> the camera won't work because the company released an update to the app
02:35 <DataByte> :/
02:37 <Thelema5> Hmmm
02:37 <Thelema5> Did you go to a flea market or something?
02:37 <DataByte> Hardware store
02:37 <Thelema5> Heh
02:37 <DataByte> They're new in package
02:38 <Cyan_Spark> “Yes I’m going to the hardware store”
02:38 <Thelema5> The app update I can understand, but the alarm going off at the wrong time I can't grok
02:39 <DataByte> The model number is still listed as supported, though
02:40 <Thelema5> Frustrating
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02:48 <DataByte> I guess nevermind on the camera issue - I'm a sleepy idiot, I guess. I installed a firewall on my phone a long time ago, and forgot I need to allow the app access to wifi
02:48 <DataByte> Planning on getting up really early tomorrow, so haven't had my customary naps
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02:59 <DataByte> Now to see if I can connect to the stream directly..
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03:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: RoomVR - Looking For Solitude [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/y9e5ddd4 ]
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03:06 <DashedRainbows> I'm back, horseys
03:08 <Librarian> Back as well
03:08 <Librarian> Took a power nap
03:09 <DashedRainbows> Feel asleep heh
03:10 <DataByte> Same diff
03:10 <Librarian> Yeah, sleep is annoying
03:11 <Librarian> Still tired
03:12 <PinkieShy> I think i just converted a hater of mlp to a lover :)
03:12 <PinkieShy> he is even considering himself a brony now lol
03:13 <DataByte> Epic :)
03:14 <Librarian> You win...
03:15 <Librarian> Something
03:15 <Librarian> You getva DataByte
03:15 <Librarian> Dont bathe him after 12
03:15 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, how did you manage that?
03:17 <PinkieShy> some clips from the show, fanart, and music :P I showed him and. It just clicked lol
03:18 <Librarian> Friendahip is magic
03:18 <Librarian> In this case mind control
03:18 <Librarian> Hi thelema
03:18 <DashedRainbows> Howdy Thelema5
03:22 <Thelema5> Hiya
03:24 <DashedRainbows> I feel asleep in the afternoon and just woke up
03:27 <Librarian> I begrudgingly sa
03:27 <Librarian> Sleep an hour
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03:55 <Librarian> Im hungry again owo
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03:55 <Librarian> Imma volunteer for the cyborg body when they make one
03:59 <PinkieShy> Well me and my dad should be expecting a call very soon i guess
04:00 <PinkieShy> my brother texted me to say be on call just incase they call me to get to the hospital this week :P
04:00 <PinkieShy> his GF is thinking the baby is going to be come this week. Since the way he is kicking and such.
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04:11 <DataByte> There are a lot of people that would volunteer for that sort of thing, Librarian xD
04:11 <DataByte> There's a wait list a mile long for volunteers for the Mars one-way mission
04:12 <DashedRainbows> bionic kidney would be nice
04:12 <DashedRainbows> or any that, like, works
04:13 <PinkieShy> They say Bionic eyes are being test :P
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04:23 <Librarian> Imma be robrobrarian
04:30 <Librarian> Might have accidentally found a musician i admired
04:30 <Librarian> Or a crazy person who has the same name
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04:51 <Librarian> Im leaning for crazy
05:10 <Librarian> Very crazy
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05:18 <Snapai> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnnqnV7EFks - I laughed SO hard.
05:18 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
05:18 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about YouTube
05:18 <Snapai> wat
05:18 <Snapai> I laughed. SO hard.
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05:20 <Schism> Getting Over It is good for that. X3
05:20 <RazorSharpFang> Sounds like someone didn't get over it
05:20 <RazorSharpFang> you
05:20 <RazorSharpFang> Wait, wrong window
05:21 <RazorSharpFang> That was supposed to be you(tube)
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05:24 <Librarian> Im sleepy
05:24 <FruitNibbler> Hm. Apparently elevators are safer than stairs, and even safer than escalators
05:24 <FruitNibbler> Would have never thunk that, but it makes sense
05:24 <RazorSharpFang> Right, but how am I supposed to get amazing thighs by taking the elevator?
05:25 <FruitNibbler> Good point and I am with ya on that one
05:26 <FruitNibbler> But statistically speaking: elevators are the safest
05:26 <RazorSharpFang> Good thighs are just worth risking your life for I guess.
05:27 <Schism> Lumindia: Roulette pop, Cape Westwind. One minute for 500k experience on WHM. OKAY then.
05:27 <FruitNibbler> Also, contrary to popular belief planes are not the safest: this spot is reserved for city commute - busses, trams and short-distance-trains
05:27 <FruitNibbler> Oh and subway, if you happen to have it.
05:28 <FruitNibbler> The worst choice of transportation is riding a motorbike.
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05:32 <FruitNibbler> Oh and one funny statistic: apparently it is safer to drive a car than to walk (especially driving a SUV, or better yet a van)
05:32 <FruitNibbler> No wonder people drive and take elevators. Better safe than sorry!
05:35 <RazorSharpFang> Why not both safe and sorry?
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07:29 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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07:42 <DashedRainbows> How are you?
07:42 <ConfusionRift> Doing alright, just kinda bored.
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07:44 <DashedRainbows> I'm getting ready for bed
07:46 <ConfusionRift> I see. (patpats) Hope you have a good rest.
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07:47 <DashedRainbows> Not yet though
07:49 <Starwatcher> hia
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07:52 <Starwatcher> what's up?
07:54 <DashedRainbows> Well, I'm back on the Lyrica so I should probably feel better now
07:56 <DashedRainbows> And you?
07:57 * Starwatcher hugs
07:57 <Starwatcher> is good thanks
07:57 <Starwatcher> was just doing a winter cleaning
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08:09 <DashedRainbows> Well, good night all y'all horseys
08:09 <Starwatcher> nighty night
08:09 <Starwatcher> sleep well
08:09 * Starwatcher hugs
08:09 <ConfusionRift> Laters!
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08:23 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Nini
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09:08 <ConfusionRift> Darp... I mean, derp!
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10:12 <ConfusionRift> :P
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11:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1099 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycea9hav ]
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15:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Sia - Rainbow (Lavender Remix) [Drum & Bass] [ http://tinyurl.com/yaw4x2e9 ]
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15:09 <DashedRainbows> Good morning, horseys
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16:02 <Librarian> Morning
16:03 <Librarian> Had to take a sleeping pill, but i managed some proper sleep
16:03 <DashedRainbows> Yay
16:04 * Cepheid flails in.
16:04 <Cepheid> So coooold.
16:04 * Lumin husg Ceph tight
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16:07 <Jahnesta> Hai!
16:07 <Jahnesta> Heya DashedRainbows :3
16:08 <DashedRainbows> Howdy
16:09 <Cepheid> It's bloody cold out. -33° with the wind. -22° without.
16:10 <Jahnesta> That's.. That's... :0
16:10 <Jahnesta> Nothing could say it better as :0 !
16:10 <DashedRainbows> So north :p
16:11 <Lumin> https://imgur.com/Ro5wNF0
16:11 <Jahnesta> Pls tell me you're wearing a jacket this time.. :3
16:11 <Cepheid> I am yes.
16:11 <Jahnesta> That's looking pretty cool Lumin!
16:11 <DashedRainbows> It's a nice 4C here
16:11 <Jahnesta> What texturepack/mod is that?
16:11 <Lumin> that's the DW20 pack
16:12 <Jahnesta> Ohh
16:12 <Jahnesta> Never heard of it!
16:12 <Jahnesta> :P
16:12 <Lumin> and I'm attempting to recreate https://imgur.com/2Wa8MCR
16:12 <Lumin> in some fashion
16:12 <Lumin> or at least using that as a basis for my new base
16:12 <Lumin> DW20 = Direwolf 20
16:12 <Jahnesta> The base is there, but that is gonna be a huuge build!
16:13 <Lumin> i'm not building it to scale, obv
16:14 <Lumin> and some liberties will be taken
16:14 <Jahnesta> Brb
16:18 <DashedRainbows> I bought a piano course book, so hopefully I'll git gud
16:18 <Lumin> yus
16:18 <Lumin> you must git gud
16:18 <Lumin> take Cranky's advice
16:19 <Lumin> https://imgur.com/nresjiP
16:22 <Cepheid> I am going to find you in Dark Souls Remastered and harass you. DURING the fight with the Capra Demon.
16:24 <Cepheid> And then when I finally break you, I'll lean in nice and close and whisper.... "git gud"
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16:48 <Cepheid> I believe I killed the chat with that.
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16:49 <Lumin> qjust like dark souls will kill you
16:49 <Lumin> :D
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16:52 <DashedRainbows> Nah
16:53 <Cepheid> Nah. I've run through Dark Souls 1 so many times now I have the world map memorized.
16:54 <Cepheid> My feet are cold. Painfully so.
16:58 <DashedRainbows> Why must my dad keep my pills on the top shelf
16:58 <DashedRainbows> It's exhausting to get down
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17:03 <Cepheid> I'd advise taking them down then and stuffing them somewhere you can reach them easily. Somewhere hidden.
17:03 <Amrauz> To keep you exercising x3
17:03 <Amrauz> Hello
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17:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: "A Royal Problem" Scene Remade in SFM [ http://tinyurl.com/yd3ll2ay ]
17:07 <Cepheid> This bus must be speeding. We're already at Billings Bridge. The busses aren't normally this fast.
17:08 <Lumin> maybe you're in "Speed"
17:08 <Amrauz> o3o you are now entering...
17:08 <Amrauz> The Twilight Zone.
17:09 <Amrauz> *twilicanes rain down on Cepheid*
17:09 <Cepheid> Nah. This bus is just plain speeding. Especially behind schedule so he is trying to make up lost time.
17:10 <Amrauz> So... How's everypony?
17:11 <Lumin> Amrauz plz
17:11 <Lumin> xD
17:11 * Lumin baps Amrauz with a RaraCane
17:11 <Amrauz> o3o
17:12 <Amrauz> AppleCane is best cane
17:13 <Amrauz> Just like how Applejack is best pony...
17:18 <DashedRainbows> Tired, Amrauz
17:19 <DashedRainbows> My bathroom isn't very accessibly so I have to walk in and out
17:20 <Amrauz> I seee
17:21 <Amrauz> Well i dont actually see your bathroom that'd be werid
17:28 <Amrauz> o.o anyways... How about them... Hmm how about that... *shrugs*
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17:41 <Cepheid> How about that Canadian weather, eh?
17:42 <Amrauz> Yeah it's super warm right? o.o
17:43 <Cepheid> Hells no. It's freezing. -22 last I checked. -33 with the wind. Celsius.
17:43 <Amrauz> xD that is freezing...
17:43 <Amrauz> Sounds great!
17:45 <Cepheid> Not really. Been quite a few cases of severe frostbite this winter.
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17:46 <Amrauz> I love the cold!
17:46 <Cepheid> It's been making news because of the number of cases. One case was cause by a club refusing to let a girl wait indoors in the middle of the night.
17:47 <Amrauz> Why didn't she just go home? o.o
17:50 <Cepheid> She was waiting for a taxi.
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17:51 <Amrauz> I see
17:52 <Amrauz> I have mixed feelings about that. Wonder if she has an legal grounds against the club.
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18:08 <Librarian> I have just spent an hour here
18:08 <Jahnesta> I was afk so long, foxy is already gone.. :(
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18:24 <DashedRainbows> I forgot to charge my tablet to read my new book :(
18:35 <DashedRainbows> Got any new clients, Librarian?
18:35 <Librarian> Yep
18:36 <DashedRainbows> Good
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19:37 <Librarian> I have spent most of the friggin day at the bank
19:37 <Librarian> And for stupid coincidences
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19:39 <Cepheid> Ah. Nothing like integration.
19:39 *** Changeling_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
19:39 * Filly_Nightmares sits on Cepheid
19:39 <Librarian> I have a desired to smack someone with a fish
19:39 <Filly_Nightmares> Play TF2!
19:39 <Filly_Nightmares> Play Scout!
19:39 <Filly_Nightmares> Hit people wif fishy!
19:40 * Cepheid takes the integral of Filly_Nightmares. Wonders what that actually is.
19:40 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and floofs up excitedly!
19:40 <Cepheid> I should make a shoot-em-up that has a fish launching weapon. It launches flailing fish.
19:45 <Cepheid> It is way too cold out. Anyone standing outside or doing outdoorsy winter stuff is insane and putting their health at risk.
19:45 * Filly_Nightmares curls up wif Cepheid!
19:45 <Lumin> skree
19:45 * Lumin snugs Surry and Ceph
19:45 * Filly_Nightmares eeeeeee
19:46 <Cepheid> Some people are anti-swearing. Me? I'm pro-fanity.
19:46 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
19:47 <Lumin> so that vanity mirror that has a van built in?
19:47 <Lumin> fan*
19:48 <Cepheid> ... thank you for ignoring the joke. :P
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19:51 <Lumin> I got the joke
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20:41 <CleverDerpy> derp?
20:43 <Jahnesta> Derp!
20:51 * Ali pulls Cepheid and CleverDerpy into snugs.
20:51 * CleverDerpy purrs and wiggles
21:02 * Cepheid flops about.
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21:11 <Cepheid> I should have stayed at school. =.=
21:12 <foxy> why
21:13 <Cepheid> Parents being annoying.
21:14 <foxy> oh
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21:25 <GalaxyNight> Memory functions very similar to viruses
21:25 <Jahnesta> ?
21:26 <GalaxyNight> It may be only a matter of time when we can infect others with our memories and create clones
21:26 <GalaxyNight> https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/01/brain-cells-can-share-information-using-a-gene-that-came-from-viruses/550403/?utm_source=yahoo&yptr=yahoo
21:29 <Librarian> I finnaly fixes it
21:29 <Librarian> Owo
21:29 <Librarian> Sweet gods what a day
21:30 <Cepheid> It's not exactly news that cells can contain information, or heavens forbid, share it with other cells or even viruses.
21:30 <GalaxyNight> you didn't get my point
21:30 <GalaxyNight> its about how they are shared
21:32 <Cepheid> Unless you can find a way to tell the brain to reconfigure the positioning of neurons, the lengths of axons, and it's connections, it really won't do much.
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21:32 <Cepheid> As memories are actually a group of neurons configured in a specific way.
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21:35 <GalaxyNight> the article says the neuron passing a memory to another neuron in the method described
21:36 <Cepheid> That doesn't make sense. All neurons pass between one another are electrical signals via chemical deposition.
21:38 <GalaxyNight> Am waiting for some breakthrough in medical tech
21:38 <Cepheid> Hmm..
21:40 <GalaxyNight> Also waiting for CES to wrap up and conclude best products
21:40 <Cepheid> It sounds like this Arc gene may have something to do with the creation of new neurons. Perhaps programming the development of them so that they have the correct number of terminals and buttons to receive information?
21:41 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, it's not a simple case of just injecting someone with a serum containing these little genes/capsules and appropriate information. Heck, that'd probably be the deadliest thing one can do.
21:42 <GalaxyNight> when they understand how it interacts enough in tandem with other programming genes, they may mod it to work like infections
21:42 <GalaxyNight> evil scientists
21:43 <GalaxyNight> on the flip side this may help people with ptsd forget old memories
21:43 <Cepheid> It won't allow programming of new memories. The problem is that RNA *AND* DNA are extremely complex. Sure, it's code, but the problem is how long is each instruction? What are the different instructions? Is it a variable-length instruction set? How many parameters?
21:44 <GalaxyNight> quantum computing might help solve that in the next few decades
21:44 <GalaxyNight> unravelling the dna and rna
21:45 * Cepheid sighs.
21:46 <GalaxyNight> also there is like no news on research projects like completely creating a genetic organism with only a few thousand codons from scratch
21:46 <GalaxyNight> wondered if they failed
21:48 <Cepheid> Nah. It's just I don't think you fully understand the problem with the concept.
21:48 <Cepheid> DNA and RNA is code, yes.
21:49 <Cepheid> But there are a number of questions: 1) What is the size of each instruction in terms of DNA "bits"? Is it variable-length? Is it static? 2) What are the instructions? How many are there? What do they each do? 3) How many arguments do the instructions take? What are the system constraints? Is there limited memory? Does the system perform any special operations when reading the code?
21:50 <Cepheid> It'd be like creating a computer with a secret instruction set architecture, and then giving the people gigabytes worth of a binary sequence, and then telling them to figure out what the program does.
21:51 <Cepheid> There are numerous other questions involved, but these are the initial ones I can think of.
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21:52 <Cepheid> In essence, it is an impossible problem to solve with our current level of technology. Perhaps centuries from now, sure. But years? Decades? Heavens no. I doubt even quantum computing can help.
21:53 <GalaxyNight> I know it sounds tough, but they have demonstrated to be able to identify what certain codes do what, simple ones at least, technology and experimentation can be done in increasingly larger scale. They start with organism with less dna length and work their way up.
21:53 <Cepheid> That's easy to do, though.
21:53 <Cepheid> Well, relatively.
21:54 <Cepheid> You remove a sequence of code, use gene therapy to apply it to a rat or mouse, and see what happens.
21:54 <Cepheid> If there's a visible effect, you note down that removing that piece of code does X.
21:55 <Cepheid> If it doesn't do anything, move onto the next bit of code, repeat.
21:55 <Cepheid> Same thing can be done with addition of code.
21:55 <Cepheid> But usually with addition, you're adding what's apparently missing from a section, to said section. Usually by noting genetic differences between two subjects.
21:56 <Cepheid> One rat has X gene, but the other lacks it. So observe the known differences. Take a third rat that lacks that same gene X, and add it in, and observe the results.
21:57 <Cepheid> If the rat more closely mimics or resembles the first rat, it may have some impact. If it doesn't change, or resembles the second rat, then the gene may not do anything of note.
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22:00 <Cepheid> It is unbelievably complicated to toy with DNA. At best, we can remove and add pre-existing bits, and we can guess at what those bits do, but we don't know *WHY*. What do those bits tell the cell to do differently? Do they tell them to move bytes at address X to address Y(Move protien X from location A to location B)? Do they tell that little doohicky over there to turn 90 degrees? Or does it cause the cell to have a
22:00 <Cepheid> seizure and die?
22:01 <Cepheid> It's the same basic problem as mentioned a few minutes ago. You give me a chunk of binary code for a computer with an instruction set architecture that I know nothing about, because there's no documentation for it, and then ask me to decode what it's doing.
22:01 <Cepheid> I wouldn't be able to give you any answer at all.
22:03 <Cepheid> I'd need more things, at minimum, I'd need access to the computer that runs the code, and the ability to examine CPU state and memory state. I can experiment first by taking a smaller chunk of that binary, and run it in the system by itself, and see how the state all changes. I can infer *SOMETHING* from that, especially if inputting the same sequence results in the same result.
22:05 <Cepheid> DNA is worse. We have the code. We have the machine. But we don't know the configuration of the machine. We don't know if it uses registers, if it uses memory, what constraints it has, we have no introspection to work with..
22:05 <Cepheid> It is a scientist's worst nightmare.
22:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2505 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9afzzv2 ]
22:06 * Cepheid is slowly going crazy.
22:16 <GalaxyNight> the knuckles meme has reached EQD T.T
22:24 <Cepheid> It's a meme. That's how it works. It wouldn't be a meme if it didn't spread. Which is unfortunate.
22:26 <GalaxyNight> nah memes don't reach every end of the internet
22:26 <GalaxyNight> only good memes are worthy of if global domination
22:27 <GalaxyNight> I thought the meme was from the new sonic show
22:27 <GalaxyNight> but turns out its a random thing from VR chat
22:30 <Cepheid> If it doesn't spread, it's not, by definition, a meme.
22:30 <Cepheid> It's an in-joke.
22:30 <Cepheid> Or just a failure.
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22:34 <LibrarianPc> sup
22:34 <LibrarianPc> bizznez i coming great
22:34 <LibrarianPc> i got a commision from the branck director while fixing my bank problems
22:34 * Cepheid wants to vomit horribly.
22:35 <LibrarianPc> any particular reason?
22:36 <LibrarianPc> i could reccomend just to let it flow, holding it in might be worse
22:36 <Cepheid> No idea.
22:36 <LibrarianPc> happens to me a lot
22:36 <Cepheid> I feel like the world around me is crushing me, for some reason. I'm not stressed or anything.
22:36 <LibrarianPc> does tafil sound familiar?
22:36 <LibrarianPc> ypu might need some
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23:12 * Surreal_Nightmares nests on Ali|Nap
23:12 * Surreal_Nightmares blankets on!
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23:13 <LibrarianPc> much aki, such nap
23:13 <LibrarianPc> wow
23:13 <iandroid> Hello everypony
23:14 <LibrarianPc> hi
23:14 <iandroid> What's shakin'?
23:15 <LibrarianPc> my pen hand
23:15 <LibrarianPc> losta drawing left to do owo
23:15 <iandroid> Drink more/less alcohol/coffee/nicotine
23:20 <LibrarianPc> i want soda actually
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23:35 <iandroid> I want to sleep, but it's the middle of the day
23:36 <Golden> I capped a Rathian
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