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00:52 <iandroid> Hello everypony
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00:52 <PinkieShy> My nephew was born today :)
00:52 <PinkieShy> He is 8 pounds 3 ounces :D
00:52 <PinkieShy> He is so adorable
00:52 <Braixen> huh a baby
00:53 <PinkieShy> He was born at 8:22am :)
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01:03 * Cepheid flops in, face-first on the floor. He groans. "Morning..."
01:04 <Cepheid> First off, congratulations PinkieShy. Secondly, I need a good neck rub.
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01:05 <PinkieShy> Cepheid I've been running off nothing but caffeine and sugar today >.>
01:05 <PinkieShy> Been up since 5:30am and those 2 things have been the key to keep me awake this long... So headed to bed at 12 or 11:30 tonight
01:06 <Cepheid> Not good, man.
01:06 <Cepheid> You need to try and start eating other foods.
01:06 <Cepheid> Do it slowly, I'd suggest. For breakfast, switch to cheerios and a piece of fruit. Or bacon, eggs and toast.
01:07 <PinkieShy> I did have 5 slices of bacon, 1/2 cup of eggs, 2 sausage links, and a biscuit with mountain dew for breakfast.
01:07 <Cepheid> Remove the mountain dew.
01:08 <Cepheid> Replace it with water, or orange juice at best.
01:08 <Cepheid> In fact, you want my advice?
01:08 <Cepheid> Stop drinking mountain dew altogether.
01:08 <Cepheid> It's the worst contender for sugar in soft drinks.
01:08 <Cepheid> You want something flavourful and soda-like to replace it with? Try Fresca.
01:11 * iandalton just drinks black coffee
01:12 <Cepheid> Fresca is sugar-free, and it's pretty good. A soda with a flavour that's between a mix of lemon and grapefruit. More the lemon than the grapefruit.
01:12 <Cepheid> You could also look into getting a Sodastream Fountain, and some liquid sugarfree drink mix.
01:12 <Cepheid> Make your own soda.
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01:15 <LittleTwillie> Hello every pony
01:15 <iandroid> Hello LittleTwillie!
01:16 <LittleTwillie> Hi Android
01:16 <SunsetShimmer> heyo
01:16 <LittleTwillie> Hi sunset
01:16 <iandroid> You can call me ian
01:17 <iandroid> I'm just on my android tablet
01:17 * Cepheid sits atop SunsetShimmer. "Your character in Grimrock 2 is doing fine. Oh, by the way I conscripted you for the mage in Grimrock 2."
01:17 <SunsetShimmer> Shweet, lol
01:18 <Cepheid> Alas, no fireball.
01:18 <Cepheid> I got fire magic maxed, but I can't figure out the spells. The magic system changed since the first game a bit.
01:18 <Cepheid> I can't select individual runes. It's basically "Draw a path along these runes to cast a spell."
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01:22 <Cepheid> I tried a path that covers the usual fireball runes, but no luck. The spell just fizzles.
01:28 * Cepheid decides to experiment. Only so many paths that can work with a fire rune, after all.
01:28 <LittleTwillie> Lol
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01:38 <LittleTwillie> Lol
01:44 <Cepheid> Nope. Can't figure out the spell. Every combination I've tried fizzles.
01:46 <SleepFrame> This seems an interesting magic system.
01:48 <Cepheid> Basically, you have a grid of 3x3 squares, each rune represents something. The first row is Fire, ???, (Bolt?), the second row is ???, Shield/Area?/Aura?, ???, the third row is Earth, ???, Ice?
01:48 <Cepheid> In Grimrock 1, you selected individual runes to cast spells. Fireball was Fire, Bolt?, second row third rune.
01:48 <Cepheid> In Grimrock 2, you draw a line from rune to rune, no gaps in between the selection. The same group for Fireball from the first game just fizzles.
01:50 <Cepheid> And some spells overall appear to have changed. I can't even cast Light or Darkness.
01:52 * PinkieShy licks Cepheid
01:53 * Saerydoth idly wonders way the flamebreaker armor from the volcano area doesn't work in "normal" hot areas
01:53 <Saerydoth> *why
01:54 <Cepheid> What game?
01:55 <Ali> BotW
01:55 <Cepheid> Oh, right.
01:55 <Saerydoth> it's considered fire resist instead of heat resist
01:56 <Cepheid> Yeah, fire resist over heat resist. Not bursting into flames and such.
01:56 <Saerydoth> but the whole point is that the temperatures are about 1000 degrees, I'd say that's pretty heat resistant
01:56 <Cepheid> There is that, too, yes.
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01:56 <Saerydoth> at least they tried to justify how you can survive around lava
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01:57 <Saerydoth> considering in real life you'd spontaneously combust from about 50 feet away
01:57 <Saerydoth> though to be fair Skyward Sword did that too, it had a hot area you needed magic earrings to survive in
01:57 <Cepheid> If I had to guess?
01:57 <Ali> Never got far in Skyward Sword
01:57 <Cepheid> Limitation of the design of the engine.
01:57 * Saerydoth nods
01:57 <Cepheid> The game only allows one "effect" to be active from armour sets.
01:57 <Saerydoth> yeah makes sense
01:58 <Saerydoth> or rather each armor set can only have one effect, if you mix and match you can get some of each
01:58 <Saerydoth> the flamebreaker armor looks like one of those tin can robots from old movies though, rofl
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02:00 <Cepheid> These enemies are annoying. Giant frogs. They steal equipped items.
02:01 * Saerydoth absolutely hates lizalfos
02:01 <Saerydoth> they can jump in, hit you, and jump out faster than even a fast weapon can move. They can't be hit with arrows unless you are in slow-mo
02:02 <Saerydoth> sometimes you can get lucky and jump out of the way and get a flurry rush
02:02 <Saerydoth> but those damn fire breathing guys are harder than guardians
02:02 <Cepheid> Yeah, Lizalfos are usually better dealt with by stunning.
02:02 <Saerydoth> guardians I can just rush in and beat to pieces before they can fire a shot now
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02:02 <Saerydoth> don't even have to bother reflecting their beams anymore
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02:04 <Cepheid> Gah! Mimic!
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02:06 <Finwe> o3o
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02:15 <iandroid> Hej Finwe
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02:22 <Mike_Coltfield> So... Hugs?
02:26 * Filly_Nightmares hats on Mike_Coltfield!
02:26 * Filly_Nightmares eeeeeeeees
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02:32 <Cepheid> Oh help me gods. My head. Something is terribly wrong with my head. My neck and back of my head are suffering a tension headache, and my sinuses? My sinuses are in AGONY and my face feels like it's about to explode.
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02:35 <Saerydoth> sinus infection?
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02:37 <LittleTwillie> How's it going
02:37 <Cepheid> The usual sinus infection, yes. Worsened for some reason.
02:38 <LittleTwillie> I think we can find a remedy in everfree forest
02:38 * Filly_Nightmares snuzzlies Cepheid's head
02:38 * Filly_Nightmares sits on LittleTwillie
02:39 <LittleTwillie> Lol
02:41 <Cepheid> I've taken all my usual drugs and treatments for it. I've also grabbed a bowl of chili my mother made, and added in some sriracha sauce to it.
02:41 <Cepheid> Clear them sinuses out completely
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02:46 * Cepheid decides to switch Schism over to firearms for good. He has 165 rounds of ammo. Should last a bit.
02:48 <Cepheid> This just screams trap. Open room, spiked barriers waiting to shoot up after I enter.
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02:55 <Cepheid> Well that was a simple trap. Boss room.
02:55 <Schism> Hum. Boss brought up an excellent point tonight. I don't get angry at myself for having an off-day.
02:55 * Schism should.
03:00 <Cepheid> You walk for what I assume is 8 hours a day at work.
03:00 <Cepheid> You do sales, you're on your feet all the time, and heavens knows what you carry.
03:00 <Cepheid> My experience is that you should be taking a break every few days to give your feet time to rest.
03:01 <Cepheid> I worked at a warehouse job for three months, every single day 8 hours a day, walking, standing and carrying stuff.
03:01 <iandalton> Schism you shouldn't get angry period
03:01 <Cepheid> I not only lost an incredible amount of weight, but I have callouses on my feet from then still, and my feet were sore as heck, even through the weekends.
03:01 <iandalton> Anything anger can accomplish, reason can do better
03:01 <iandalton> Cepheid man that sucks
03:01 <iandalton> 40 hours a week?
03:02 <Schism> Cepheid: Oh, I hit the field for about 6 hours a day.
03:02 <Schism> Two hours of meetings and training and the like first.
03:02 <iandalton> I work at the Home Depot which is basically a warehouse but currently I only work weekends
03:02 <Schism> (Leads.)
03:02 <Schism> iandalton: A reasonable anger. Drive, impetus, focus. "Why can't I do this?" "Because I'm not angry enough to push myself to do it."
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03:03 <Schism> Cepheid: As for what I carry? A small bag and a notebook.
03:03 <iandalton> Schism do you think it's possible to be angry enough to do something that you think it better not to do?
03:03 <Cepheid> Still.
03:03 <Cepheid> That's a lot of time on your feet, Schism.
03:03 <Schism> Yes, but that's where the reason part comes in. I'm not going to go all Cave Johnson.
03:03 <Schism> And eh. That's actually not too bad. I do bring a bottle of water, too, and I can usually find a Tim's if I need to sit down for a few.
03:04 <Cepheid> Speaking of feet, that wound on my toe healed up.
03:04 <Schism> Plus, when I get into a CX's house, I get to sit down and chat with them.
03:04 <iandalton> Schism everything you do you do because you think it best. Therefore you don't need anger to act, just figure out what is best.
03:04 <Cepheid> Though now I got a gaping crevasse of a callus on the toe.
03:04 <Schism> iandalton: Incorrect. Bad habits can accumulate.
03:04 <iandalton> If you think it best to change them, you will
03:05 <Schism> I think it best to get angry at myself, then, as I've not tried that means of change yet.
03:05 <iandalton> If you're not fixing your bad habits, it's because you think it preferable to stay like you are now
03:05 <Schism> Specifically, getting angry at those parts of myself which are keeping me from fixing them.
03:05 <Schism> Cepheid: Heh, you should see the scar on my right hand.
03:05 <iandalton> All you need to do is recognize those parts of yourself. As soon as you do you can cast them away dispassionately.
03:06 <Schism> Meh. Flinging em away feels better.
03:06 <iandalton> Right, but you're not doing it better by doing it in anger. Anger will cloud your judgement, not clarify it.
03:06 <Schism> That depends. A hot anger, certainly. A cold anger...
03:08 <Schism> A cold anger is me saying, 'Why the BUCK did I not do this before?' and crystallizing into 'I'm doing this NOW'.
03:08 <Cepheid> Okay, time to sort my inventory. There's a hub teleportation area, so I'll use it to go back to the beach. Two steps away from there is a box I can shove stuff into. As much as I want.
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03:17 <Cepheid> Spitfire is chasing a sky raisin.
03:19 * Schism passes Cepheid some orange-cranberry-maple cream of wheat.
03:19 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o
03:19 <Filly_Nightmares> Fly!
03:19 * Filly_Nightmares chases Schism's tail
03:20 * Schism waves tail around a bit.
03:20 * Filly_Nightmares bats at and tugs Schism's tail!
03:20 * Filly_Nightmares drags him to Ali
03:21 * Schism blinks, and provides Ali with a grilled ham and cheese sandwich on egg toast, with honey mustard dipping sauce.
03:21 * Filly_Nightmares purr
03:24 <Cepheid> I found a map, but.. I can't figure out where it's pointing me to. No locations on the overall map match what I see on this map.
03:25 <Cepheid> Which implies it's in an area I haven't mapped, I guess.
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03:27 <Cepheid> Sheesh, unexpected trap grabbing that new gun for Schism.
03:27 <Cepheid> Picked it up, it teleported me into a room where I was surrounded by undead.
03:28 <Schism> Hmmm. Was the trap itself a surprise, or just what it did?
03:28 <Cepheid> The trap itself.
03:28 <Cepheid> The undead weren't a problem once I cleared one of them out.
03:28 <Schism> I'm kinda surprised. You're not used to them yet, I guess?
03:28 <Cepheid> This is the first time I've seen a trap teleport me.
03:28 <Cepheid> Especially from picking up a weapon.
03:28 <Schism> I mean, you see a shiny weapon sitting there, you've gotta expect it to be trapped. Like that shotgun in the room in Bioshock.
03:29 <Cepheid> In any case, Schism has an Arquebus, now.
03:29 <Schism> Hmm, inaccurate, but that's fine.
03:31 <Cepheid> So far you've hit everything with it when I've used it.
03:37 <Cepheid> Tactical retreat! Cepheid has died!
03:37 * Filly_Nightmares licks Schism's floof
03:38 * Schism provides Filly_Nightmares with some hot tea for warms.
03:39 * Filly_Nightmares jumps into the teacup and purrs at Schism
03:40 <PinkieShy> I've been up almost 20 hours.
03:40 * Filly_Nightmares uses her floofy hooves and closes PinkieShy's eyelids!
03:40 <PinkieShy> Struggling to stay awake is real.
03:46 <Cepheid> Another skull for the skullbag.
03:47 <Cepheid> Huzzah, fire shield obtained!
03:47 <iandalton> Blood for the blood god
03:47 <iandalton> Skulls for the skull bag
03:51 <Cepheid> Okay, we have a choice. Ruins of Desarune, which are apparently crafted for explorers such as myself, or a cemetery.
03:51 <Cepheid> There's a pyramid, but it's locked by an unknown key.
03:51 <Snapai> looty for the tutti frootie!
03:51 * Schism looks at the image for Shock, tries to puzzle things out.
03:51 <Cepheid> Likely a hidden button.
03:52 <Snapai> Schism, I destroyed my USB hub today! And had to pay $40 for a new one! :o
03:52 <Schism> Cepheid: What are the returns you get from trying each of those nine in turn?
03:52 <Schism> Snapai: Owwww. I have spares.
03:52 * Filly_Nightmares wiggles and snuzzlies Snapai
03:52 <Filly_Nightmares> I wanna get a USB hub
03:53 <Snapai> Got one of those fancy usb3 ones from wallymart with an external AC power supply.
03:53 <Cepheid> Schism: You mean each individual rune? Fire gets me fireburst, the rest all fizzle due to Sunset's focus on Fire
03:53 <Schism> Filly_Nightmares, https://www.staples.ca/en/D-Link-DUB-H7BL-7-Port-USB-Hub/product_171811_1-CA_1_20001 seems useful!
03:53 <Snapai> The old one was like, years old, and had done okay, but then I tripped over my keyboard cable and ripped a USB socket up off the board and nothing worked after that :x
03:53 <Schism> Cepheid: Ahhh.
03:53 <Filly_Nightmares> o4o
03:53 <Filly_Nightmares> Snapai, how about those Anker hubs?
03:53 <Filly_Nightmares> o4o
03:55 <Schism> Cepheid: Looking at the runes, middle one looks like a shield, but... hmm.
03:55 <Cepheid> It is.
03:56 <Snapai> ?
03:56 <Snapai> what?
03:56 <Cepheid> It represents "group", "shield" or "area".
03:56 <Cepheid> If I do the top rune and the middle rune, I get the Light spell, so the top rune represents Light.
03:56 <Cepheid> The bottom rune combined with middle gets Darkness.
03:57 <Schism> Hmm. Try an L shape from the top left to the middle.
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03:57 <Cepheid> I know what you're suggesting, it's different in this game.
03:57 <Schism> I know, they have to be joined... I'm just curious.
03:58 <Cepheid> The elemental shields add a fourth rune to the mix, and have a cycle.
03:58 <Schism> Wasn't thinking shield.
03:58 <Cepheid> If you mean going from upper-left to upper-right, then down one, I tried that as well.
03:59 <Cepheid> It doesn't result in fireball for some reason. Perhaps concentration is too low.
03:59 <Schism> Upper-left, center-left, center.
03:59 <Cepheid> Fizzles.
03:59 <Schism> Hm, what's the concentration?
04:00 <Cepheid> Level 3 currently. I maxed out fire magic first.
04:00 <Schism> Mmm.
04:02 * Cepheid goes to the cemetery. Sounds like a swell place.
04:03 <Schism> Oh, and runes: http://www.grimrock.net/2011/10/14/magic-and-runes/
04:03 <Schism> (There are no spoilers there per se.)
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04:04 <Cepheid> So roughly what I thought, then.
04:05 <Snapai> https://twitter.com/Snapai/status/966886157404352512 - I'd say I spent too much time on this for a gag reply, but I really didn't spend that long
04:06 <Snapai> Despite manually editing out Poppin' Fresh's background, mirroring him for the reflection and painting over the reflection ot fade it, and airbrushing the shadow in >.>
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04:09 <Cepheid> Cemetery is closed off to me, it seems. So to the ruins I go!
04:09 <Cepheid> Also, I figured something out Schism. These kinds of games are one of the many I like to play. I should probably focus on making games like this. Dungeon explorers, etc.
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04:12 <Schism> Cepheid: I forget, you ever play Aquaria?
04:17 <Cepheid> ... Oooh.
04:17 <Cepheid> Fireball needs Air Magic 1.
04:17 <Cepheid> And no, I have not. Watched an LP of it though.
04:17 <Schism> That makes sense. Air Magic, that is.
04:17 <Schism> And hmm. Alrighty.
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04:24 <Cepheid> Thanks game, I already figured that spell out. Scroll of Light.
04:25 <Schism> Wanna bet the Scroll of Darkness is nearby?
04:28 * Filly_Nightmares wigglewaggles and nestles in Schism's floof
04:30 <Cepheid> Alas, it does not.
04:37 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy
04:38 <Snapai> Scroll of light is easy to find, look for the glow. Scroll of darkness you just have to feel around for in the shadows
04:38 <Schism> "What exactly did this 'show' focus on?" "The lives of six civilians from various walks of life, their friendship, and how it was tested under various circumstances." "Sounds boring."
04:38 <PinkieShy> Hiya DashedRainbows
04:39 <DashedRainbows> how goes it?
04:39 <PinkieShy> Sleepy that is how it goes lol
04:39 <PinkieShy> Been going on 4hrs sleep last night.. Yet i am still going
04:39 <DashedRainbows> hmm
04:40 <PinkieShy> I'm about to go to bed here in a few minutes :P
04:40 <DashedRainbows> sounds healthy...
04:40 <PinkieShy> I'm probably going to be out of it once i hit that pillow :P
04:40 <DashedRainbows> glhf
04:40 <PinkieShy> I was to happy to sleep last night :P
04:40 <DashedRainbows> I bet
04:40 <PinkieShy> Woke up today got to the hospital to see my nephew for the first time :)
04:40 <PinkieShy> He is so Adorable!!! :D
04:40 <DashedRainbows> yay
04:41 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, that's great!
04:41 <PinkieShy> He weighed 8 pounds 3 ounces.
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04:41 <DashedRainbows> my first nephew is already 4
04:41 <Thelema5> Uncle PinkieShy
04:41 <Thelema5> uncle DashedRainbows
04:41 <DashedRainbows> I'm old...
04:41 * DashedRainbows licks Thelema5
04:42 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 my brother made a video of the baby and sent it to me and my dad tonight :P
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04:42 <PinkieShy> He called the baby's name and he waved lol
04:42 <Thelema5> Heh
04:43 <Cepheid> Oh, hey.
04:43 <Cepheid> The scroll was on the opposite side of the wall from the Scroll of Light.
04:43 <DashedRainbows> how is mr Thelema5?
04:45 <Cepheid> This is gonna hurt. *Drops down pit into obvious trap.*
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04:46 <Thelema5> Okay. Drove in to the shop today for a face-to-face with my boss. I have a bunch of stuff to do in the next week that I'm having a hard time getting a handle on- and he'll be mostly out of touch because he's going to a conference in CA. Going to be a hard week of getting stuff one I guess
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04:46 <Thelema5> *done
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04:48 <Thelema5> It's always surreal going to my employers shop, I don't know if you're familiar with the town of Woodstock but it is entirely peopled with hippies, stoners, artists, activists, and alt-life people
04:48 <Thelema5> Like visiting an alternate dimension
04:48 <DashedRainbows> heh
04:48 * Filly_Nightmares eees at Thelema5
04:49 * Thelema5 counter eees
04:50 <Schism> Thelema5: Hippies, stoners, artists, activists and the like really, really are Woodstock's stock-in-trade.[
04:50 <Schism> Those on the West Coast are suggested to imagine the more active areas of Portland. Those in the southeast, Key West. Those in Texas, Austin.
04:51 <Thelema5> Schism, yup
04:53 <Schism> Thelema5: I was told by my boss today that I should be angry at myself. I believe I concur. That is to say, angry that I'm not taking more steps on moving forward, and angry that I'm letting a perpetual downer of a coworker get to me.
04:53 <Schism> (He's not going to be long for the office.)
04:53 <DashedRainbows> I had an ok day too
04:53 <Thelema5> Gah, co-workers are the worst.
04:54 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, glad to hear it!
04:54 <Thelema5> Better than a terrible day
04:55 <DashedRainbows> I guess
04:55 <DashedRainbows> gah
04:58 <DashedRainbows> I am sad though, but my day went average
04:58 * DashedRainbows hugs Thelema5
04:59 <Thelema5> Schism, today I had to stop short in my car at a crosswalk to let a guy dressed in a US Flag (oversized) who had a 15 inch afro, a 10 inch beard, and a "cigarette" in hand SWIM across the road, making full-on water motions with his arms and body while he stared at me. After he had crossed, he pointed at me and winked.
05:00 * Thelema5 blinks
05:00 * Thelema5 counterhugs DashedRainbows
05:01 <DashedRainbows> ugh, I really need physical contact with humans
05:01 <Schism> ... Far out, dude.
05:01 <Thelema5> Yeah, man, totally
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05:01 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inkj4yop5P8
05:01 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about The gods know what you've done.
05:02 <Schism> (The Elder Scrolls series has the best bugs.)
05:02 <Thelema5> Schism, HEH, not quite exactly like that
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05:03 <Schism> Perhaps he was commenting on your own facial foliage.
05:03 <Thelema5> Perhaps. But this is typical stuff whenever I drive to that place
05:04 <Schism> Some people would kill for a commute which is A. always at least a little interesting, and B. never the same twice.
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05:04 <Thelema5> I'm not complaining XD
05:05 <Thelema5> I'm all about weird places, and I hope I can keep this job going.
05:05 <Schism> Random: One of these days, I want to show up to a furry convention wearing a full suit, necktie and a fox head. </random>
05:05 <Schism> Heck yeah.
05:05 <Thelema5> XD
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05:18 <iandalton> Schism heck yeah I wanna go to anthrocon
05:18 <iandalton> there are some good people I've met here who go
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05:19 <Schism> I wish I could have attended when I was down in Columbus. Morphicon was great, tho.
05:20 <iandalton> http://officialpowermorphicon.com/ ?
05:20 <Schism> No, it's a small Columbus-area furry convention.
05:22 <Schism> Hmm. Kitchener Comic-Con is next week.
05:23 <Schism> Within walking distance of me, no less.
05:24 <iandalton> I need to move out of the middle of nowhere
05:25 <iandalton> I went to a teacher fair on campus today. One representative told me that every district in the room would offer me a position, since I'm a math teacher. I guess that means I could easily move anywhere affordable.
05:27 * DashedRainbows rides around on Thelema5
05:30 <Schism> iandalton: Yeah, if teachers weren't completely screwed over in terms of pay.
05:32 <Schism> Though that having been said... hmm. Teachers aren't fungible.
05:32 <Schism> The job offers you might get -- how long have you been teaching?
05:32 <iandalton> Schism well that's why I can never go home
05:33 <iandalton> I looked into it and the living conditions of teachers are atrocious
05:33 <iandalton> someone who taught for 10 years in the east sf bay area put up a partition in the bedroom of their studio so they could rent out half
05:33 <Schism> Mmmrgn.
05:33 <iandalton> and the south bay isn't cheaper
05:34 <Schism> (It's onomatopoeia, shut up.)
05:34 <Schism> SF Bay, ah... yeah.
05:34 <iandalton> I just got my teaching licensure last month
05:34 <Schism> Congratulations, but... yeah. o.o Wait, where are you?
05:35 <iandalton> southern Utah
05:36 <Cepheid> Which type of exercises is it that helps out with blood pressure? Cardio?
05:36 <iandalton> much cheaper but also the middle of nowhere
05:36 <Snapai> I been to morphicon a couple times
05:36 <Snapai> At the time, it was 5 minutes from my apartment when I lived in Columbus
05:36 <Schism> Snapai: Yeee! Hm. Wait, how long ago was this?
05:36 <Snapai> Mid 2000's
05:37 <Schism> Snapai: Never there, then-- well, maybe. Either way, never caught ya there.
05:37 <Snapai> Well, no, late 2000s
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05:37 <Snapai> I think it was at the Worthington Holiday Inn?
05:37 <Schism> Still there.
05:37 <Schism> Or was when I attended, anyway.
05:38 <Snapai> Yeah, I lived on an apartment complex off Sancus Blvd
05:38 <Schism> iandalton: Yeah, there's always a tradeoff. I really get pissed off at folks who say that it's always a zero-sum game, though.
05:38 <Schism> Snapai: I was in Delaware, so I don't really know the area, I fear.
05:38 <iandalton> Schism if I move to Salt Lake, it's less the middle of nowhere but still pretty affordable
05:38 <Cepheid> Hmm. Aerobic exercises. Anything that increases blood rate/pressure. Hum.
05:39 <Snapai> Joey was GoH one year. And I remember I was sitting at a table in the social area with Eric Schwartz, while I was working on animation.
05:39 <Schism> Yea, aerobic vs. anaerobic. Freakin' biology.
05:39 <Snapai> Is playing frisbee with an aerobie aerobic?
05:39 <Cepheid> As for why I'm asking, beyond the usual "it's good for me," right now I am stressing out about something stupid and silly.
05:40 <Schism> Snapai: Name is fam-- ah, Sabrina Online.
05:40 <Snapai> yup.
05:41 <iandalton> Cepheid a) don't stress, it's bad for you 2) don't stress about something stupid and silly, it's stupid and silly
05:41 <Schism> Strangely, I feel like a lot more people could connect with Schwartz over microcomputers these days, as the Raspberry Pi seems like his sort of thing.
05:41 <Cepheid> Essentially, I have this weird... "issue," which I am unsure if it's mental, or some sort of empathy thing. But when I look at someone or something, I can feel "potential" emotion from them regarding something in the future. And it can be somewhat soul-crushing.
05:41 <Cepheid> It's also random when it happens.
05:41 <iandalton> Cepheid sounds more like you should try meditation
05:41 <Schism> Cepheid: I hate to say it, but that's just your empathy telling you what everyone else is feeling.
05:41 <Cepheid> For example, I am looking at my cat, and all I can feel is great sadness over the potential that I might disappear on him inexplicably(Death from heart attack due to high blood pressure)
05:42 <Snapai> What about yoga - meditative exercise?
05:42 <Schism> Oh, that. Um.
05:42 <iandalton> yoga can involve exercise, or just study and meditation
05:42 <Schism> Ignore what I said.
05:42 <Schism> ... how is it 1 AM...?
05:43 <Cepheid> Apparently the type of exercise I need isn't yoga. Good for stress, yes, but that's not the problem.
05:43 <Snapai> You're living 15 minutes in the future, Schism ;p
05:43 <Schism> I do my best.
05:43 <Cepheid> My blood pressure is, at last check(About 5 minutes ago), 140 over 89.
05:43 <Cepheid> It should be around 120/80 or lower.
05:44 <Snapai> Panic attack.
05:44 <Schism> Or coffee.
05:45 <Cepheid> I had coffee.
05:45 <Cepheid> But my blood pressure's been high for a while now.
05:45 <Snapai> Because you're worrying about it?
05:45 <Schism> You do have mild diabetes, so that could be it.
05:45 <Cepheid> I'm on a medication for it.
05:49 <iandalton> If you become lance armstrong, you'll have a low resting heartrate
05:49 <Schism> "You've never cast magic before, by your own admission. How in Tartarus do you know how dangerous a self-sealing oath is?" "It's self-reflective." "That answers why, not how." "We study RULES."
05:49 <Schism> Yeah, you'll also have a huge drug addiction.
05:49 <iandalton> What have I not heard? I just thought he used performance enhancing drugs
05:50 <Cepheid> That's what Schism meant.
05:50 <Cepheid> Performance-enhancing drugs are addictive for the obvious reasons.
05:50 <iandalton> they are?
05:51 <Schism> A drug which renders you more capable of performing things is addictive because of a positive feedback loop.
05:51 <Schism> Wait.
05:51 <Schism> Didn't we h--
05:51 * Schism looks at Cepheid and iandalton.
05:51 <iandalton> The drug doesn't render you more capable by itself, you still have to work out hard
05:51 <Schism> We had this conversation a few days ago.
05:51 <iandalton> My understanding is that the drugs help you recover faster so you can train more
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05:52 <iandalton> Schism I wasn't here for it
05:52 <Schism> No, you were. ... gods alive, it's doing it again.
05:52 <iandalton> Have you seen Endless Eight?
05:53 <Schism> Unfortunately.
05:53 <Schism> I am not freakin' Kyon.
05:53 <iandalton> No, obviously you're Nagato
05:54 <Schism> If you ever see me in a yukata, shoot me, I'm not myself. Though the idea of being an AI with predictive capabilities is starting to appeal.
05:54 <iandalton> Most to the point, you remember the previous times through the loop
05:55 <Schism> I know, and the only reason Nagato Yuki didn't go crazy is because she's an AI fragment.
05:55 * Snapai wobl
05:55 <iandalton> You'd be surprised what the human mind can be made to endure
05:55 <Schism> That or I'm just experiencing a glitch in the Matrix, which I honestly think is less insanity-inducing.
05:55 <Snapai> There's a difference between psychologically addictive drugs and biologically addictive drugs, Schism
05:56 <Schism> I know that, I'm just saying they're both addictive in their own way.
05:56 <iandalton> psychologically addictive just isn't that scary. It works on the same principles as you preferring "mom's cooking," you have an emotional attachment
05:56 <Schism> Snapai: You're probably also confused. I swear I dreamt of this exact chat pattern two weeks ago.
05:57 <Cepheid> Endless Eight?
05:57 <Snapai> Weed for example is psychologically addictive. Except maybe for a slight chance of migraines when it's wearing off.
05:57 <iandalton> Kyon-kun, denwa!
05:57 <Schism> I am not freakin' Kyon.
05:57 <DashedRainbows> Schism, to the logs!
05:57 <iandalton> Of course not, Kyon is God https://www.gwern.net/The-Melancholy-of-Kyon
05:57 <Cepheid> Heh, cute attempt, game.
05:58 <Cepheid> Book sitting in a depression in a wall. Next to it, a sign. "I dare you." And the floor in front of the depression? Trap door.
05:58 <Schism> If I turn out to be Suzumiya, I'm going to burn this world to the ground and just start over.
05:58 <Schism> Fair warning.
05:58 <Cepheid> I placed an item in the depression alongside the book. Grabbed the book, trap door stayed closed.
05:59 <Schism> Cepheid: Then you saved, and grabbed the item.
06:00 <Cepheid> Nah.
06:00 <Schism> Whyyyy?
06:00 <Cepheid> Mind you I would drop down intentionally.
06:00 <Schism> You know you want to see the trap activate. Do iiiit.
06:00 <Schism> Watch the trap not activate, just because.
06:01 * Schism continues to write words. Words words words.
06:01 <iandalton> Schism btw the link I shared seems very up your alley, kind of Pratchett-esque maybe
06:02 <iandalton> "The inner story in Wolfe is manifested most often in lies, inconsistencies, or peculiarities of characters. Characters act in realistic ways, pursuing their goals in a rational fashion. They eat, defecate, sleep, and so on, in a precise timeline. Wolfe makes it a point of pride to have few accidental errors. When you notice an error or wonder why a character did something so round-about, Wolfe is gesturing toward the real story."
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06:03 <Cepheid> Fell down into a swarm of ratlings. Murdered them all. Cepheid died.
06:04 <Schism> A very big part of what I'm writing right now is an illustration of the inconsistencies my character has intentionally put forth, and how they've led to a situation where others have to call her out on them.
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06:06 <Schism> The 'alien, has technological wonders on hand' bit would fall by the wayside in contrast to the truth which might not even be accurate.
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06:10 <Cepheid> Ice elementals suck.
06:10 <Schism> It's also easy to get away with technical errors, or personal errors, by saying 'that's what the character remembers'. I've written myself out of that already.
06:11 <Schism> Cepheid: Physical attacks should work, right?
06:11 <Cepheid> They do.
06:11 <Cepheid> It's just... guh, they hit with party-wide attacks.
06:11 <Schism> Ah. Hailstorm?
06:12 <iandalton> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FXsO4qJyPU Schism have you heard this?
06:12 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
06:12 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about YouTube
06:13 <iandalton> DerpyBot Twilight is technically correct, the best kind of correct
06:13 <Schism> I haven't! But Kyon does have a good idea.
06:13 <Schism> Gah. Brain.
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06:15 <Schism> iandalton: Protagonist is powered by curiosity, of all things, instead of love. (Other changeling hives: Hate, jealousy, rage, fun, surprise, pride, love.)
06:15 <iandalton> Basically a variation on Monsters, Inc.
06:15 <iandalton> fear, laughter, who knows what other emotions provide energy?
06:16 <Schism> Energetic emotions. Things that you feel, instead of being just drawn by them.
06:17 <Schism> I'll admit, there might have been some influence from DMFA.
06:18 <Schism> There is also a changeling's anathema in one chapter. Apathy.
06:20 <Schism> Well. More than one.
06:21 <Schism> iandalton: Pain is also an energetic emotion.
06:21 <Schism> Harmonic, too.
06:23 <iandalton> Schism pain isn't an emotion, an emotion is a response to things like pain
06:24 <Schism> One can feel emotional pain without the physical aspect.
06:25 <iandalton> I feel like you're equivocating
06:26 <Schism> Sorry, writing that character who's doing so because she has no clue what's going on. Things like fear, regret, active emotions which can be encapsulated as just pain.
06:28 <Schism> iandalton: Hmm. Why do you think that a self-binding oath would be dangerous? Beyond the obvious reasons that anyone could force one to undergo such an oath.
06:29 <Schism> s/do/would*
06:31 <iandalton> Yeah, duress is one danger
06:31 <iandalton> lack of forsight is another. You know, "be careful what you wish for"
06:31 <Schism> I'm bypassing that; an oath made under duress doesn't qualify under the rules I've set up, because it's not Harmonic.
06:31 <Schism> That's a good second point, though.
06:32 <Schism> But why is a lack of foresight dangerous?
06:32 <iandalton> The road to hell is paved with the best intentions
06:33 <Schism> You're on the right path, but focus on the initial part.
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06:33 <Schism> What makes that first cobblestone so dangerous?
06:36 <Schism> iandalton: Here's the trick. If someone swears you to an Oath, you can't be broken free without outside intervention, usually from the person who controls it. If you swear yourself to an Oath, nothing and nobody can ever free you.
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06:36 <Schism> That binding, obligation, geas, whatever, will always remain, unless you literally break yourself.
06:37 <Schism> And even THAT is nearly impossible to do without outside intervention.
06:38 <Finwe> Mr Schism.
06:39 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
06:39 * Finwe doffs his hat.
06:39 * Schism doffs his mattress. Is about to nap.
06:39 * DashedRainbows curtsies at sir Finwe
06:40 <Finwe> Miss DashedRainbows.
06:41 <DashedRainbows> Evening
06:41 * Finwe is frantically packing his things for the trip to Estonia.
06:42 * Surreal_Nightmares jumps onto Finwe's luggage!
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06:45 <Cepheid> Next level, Schism starts on the Accuracy skill.
06:47 <iandalton> Mr Finwe
06:54 <Cepheid> Riiight. Listen to that warning as the boss down that path HURTS.
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07:34 <DashedRainbows> I'm going to bed
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07:57 <Cepheid> Ooof.
07:57 <Cepheid> I just spent the last 30 minutes doing some rowing exercise on our rowing machine.
07:57 <Cyan_Spark> merrily?
07:57 <Cepheid> Yes. :P
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08:03 * Cyan_Spark warbles, “life is but a dream~”
08:05 <Cepheid> I think exercising was a bad idea. It's made my sinus headache worse. Or at least, move.
08:06 <Cepheid> The pain is in my nose now. Like there's a heavy object sitting right on the bridge, and cutting into the skin.
08:11 <Cyan_Spark> :(
08:15 * Filly_Nightmares nestles on Cyan_Spark and hugs Cepheid and goes sleepies
08:15 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini!
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08:52 <Cepheid> I... don't feel right. And something's wrong with my vision.
08:52 <Cepheid> Everything has a grayish tint to it.
08:52 <Cepheid> Is this a migraine aura?
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09:57 <Cepheid> Hey look, I have a fever. 99.7
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10:49 <RazorSharpFang> Ew Imperial units.
10:49 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, that is an artefact of my mother.
10:49 <RazorSharpFang> You're Canadian, not American. *grumps*
10:49 <Cepheid> She grew up using imperial units because she lived on a farm.
10:49 <Cepheid> And their farm sold the US, etc.
10:50 <Cepheid> As a result, when it comes to temperature and weight, we use imperial units within the house. Metric outside.
10:50 <RazorSharpFang> Sold the US eh? Must have been worth a lot.
10:50 <Cepheid> Dunno.
10:50 <Cepheid> She kept saying it was a chicken farm, so hard to say.
10:50 <RazorSharpFang> It was a joke, 'cos it sounded like the united-states was what you sold.
10:52 * Lumindia flops on Cerpheid
10:53 <Cepheid> Ah. :P
11:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1137 [ http://tinyurl.com/yb48w3ys ]
11:09 <Lumindia> so Ceph, you ever have an anxiety attack?
11:10 <Cepheid> A few.
11:10 <Cepheid> And panic attacks. And depressive episodes.
11:11 <Lumindia> I had one yesterday after hearing that my blood pressure was higher than it usually was
11:11 <Lumindia> it was horrible. ;-;
11:13 <Lumindia> I felt like i wanted to collapse on the floor and cry, I felt really hot and sweaty, had trouble breathing
11:13 <Cepheid> Sounds about right.
11:13 <Lumindia> Only lasted about five minutes, but they were an awful five minutes
11:13 <Lumindia> had the doctor retake my blood pressure just to be sure... came out to 122/70
11:14 <Lumindia> after I had calmed myself down, of course
11:14 <Cepheid> Of course.
11:14 <Cepheid> Anyhow, that is about reasonable.
11:14 <Cepheid> It's certainly better than my 141/89
11:15 <Lumindia> the initial reading was 150/90
11:15 <Lumindia> that's what had set off that anxiety attack in the first place
11:15 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's a bit high. Could have been a false reading, or you had done something prior to it that raised your blood pressure.
11:16 <Lumindia> my pulse at the time of reading was high, so I was probably anxious about something else during the reading
11:16 <Cepheid> Or moving.
11:16 <Lumindia> if both pulse and blood pressure are high, then you're just stressed out over something
11:16 <Lumindia> which the nurse neglected to tell me
11:17 <Cepheid> Just took another reading. 147/86.
11:17 <Lumindia> do you naturally have high blood pressure?
11:17 <Cepheid> No
11:17 <Lumindia> ahh
11:17 <Cepheid> It's likely due to diabetes among other issues.
11:17 <Lumindia> well that's what I mean
11:17 <Cepheid> Ah.
11:17 <Cepheid> In that case, yes.
11:17 <Lumindia> are the readings consistently high
11:18 <Cepheid> I essentially need to better control my blood-glucose, and start exercising.
11:18 <Cepheid> Earlier I rowed for 30 minutes straight, so..
11:18 <Lumindia> for me, my readings are always around the average of 120/80
11:18 <Lumindia> so hearing 150/90 gave me great cause for concern
11:18 <Cepheid> I'm gonna try doing that at least every second day, so as to not ruin my body with aches and pains.
11:18 <Lumindia> and that day I learned the diffrerence between panic attacks and anxiety attacks
11:18 <Cepheid> I'm considering joining the gym at the school to ensure that I can get exercise, even on the days I'm in class until late.
11:19 <Lumindia> Panic attacks are usually sudden and a reaction to something that JUST happened
11:19 <Lumindia> while anxiety attacks happen more gradually
11:19 <Cepheid> I get both.
11:20 <Cepheid> Mostly panic attacks, and usually triggered by something that is stressing me out at a given moment in time.
11:20 <Lumindia> so now that I've been there, I can feel your pain.
11:20 * Lumindia hug
11:22 <Cepheid> Once you reach the breaking point, usually your brain can't go back until your body uses up what reserves of energy it has on stressing out, panicking and being all sick.
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11:23 <Lumindia> I think I managed to get myself under control before hitting the breaking point
11:24 <Lumindia> hitting breaking point would usually result in fainting after a period of time?
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11:26 <Cepheid> In extreme cases, yeah.
11:27 <Cepheid> It hasn't happened to me, but given what I've gone through, I'm surprised it hasn't. It's such a drain physically and mentally that I can see passing out being a real concern.
11:27 <Lumindia> fromw hat I've read, panic attacks are often mistaken for heart attacks
11:27 <Lumindia> and people end up in the hospital because of that
11:29 <Cepheid> Mmhmm, it does feel weird in the chest when it hits.
11:30 <Cepheid> Me, it usually feels like something is crushing my heart, or at least sitting on my chest.
11:32 <Lumindia> my roommate likened it to being punched really hard in the chest and being unable to breathe
11:32 <Lumindia> probably comparing it to how suddenly it can happen
11:33 <Lumindia> like, you could just be doing normal stuff, then BAM, overwhelming fear strikes and everything is horrible
11:34 <Cepheid> Yup.
11:34 <Cepheid> That reminds me of last night, actually.
11:37 <Cepheid> It's time for me to get some sleep. I'ma wander off to bed now
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13:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: Forget it / Never Gamble Against Luna / Portal Sweet #19 / Dash of Pepp #31 / Pone Wars #4.18 / Ian #14 / Lonely Hooves #2-105 / Known As Cherry #22 [ http://tinyurl.com/yaejbfg2 ]
13:18 <Finwe> o3o
13:18 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony!
13:19 * Finwe is in Estonia, getting ready for the 100th independence day of the country.
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14:10 <Cyan_Spark> https://youtu.be/ccjPdIB-rs4 I first heard this on PVFM, it put an image of one of Princess Celestia's assistants cheerfully popping her head in and greeting the Princess with a—
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17:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story: Fallout Equestria: Audio Logs of Gilda [ http://tinyurl.com/y7rswoan ]
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17:14 <RainbowDarth> welp rip'
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17:16 <RainbowDarth> you know there are a lot of people here and not a single one has talked.
17:16 <RainbowDarth> -now thats a bittt weiiirrddd-
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17:23 <SunsetShimmer> lack of patience is always hilarious
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17:43 <Pony_75287> /nick The_Nostalgia_Mare
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17:44 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Yes.
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17:46 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> o3o
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18:18 <Lumin> "...And time will destroy all of those as well. Why do people insist on creating things that will inevitably be destroyed? Why do people cling to life, knowing that they must someday die? ...Knowing that none of it will have meant anything once they do?"
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19:55 <DashedRainbows> Good afternoon
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20:09 <Filly_Nightmares> /me sits on Lumin's face
20:09 <Filly_Nightmares> oeo
20:09 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o
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