Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2018-04-03

00:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #6 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9prhv5h ]

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00:24 * Cepheid feeds a character a High-Calorie Cookie. It heals a lot of HP. Because as everyone knows, girls thrive off of sweets. Clearly they're super-restorative items.

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00:29 <ADragonDreaming> hyperactive metabolisms are a well-established staple of games in general, yes.

00:30 <Cepheid> Thanks game for spawning the nightmare right where I was standing.  Got away thankfully.

00:32 * Ali angernoms Cepheid ankles

00:33 * Cepheid gives Ali a High-Calorie Cookie.

00:33 * Ali needs biomass not calories

00:33 <Cepheid> Cookies are made from components found in nature, they are considered biomass, technically.

00:33 <ADragonDreaming> I write sins not tragedies?

00:34 <Cepheid> Hmm?

00:38 <ADragonDreaming> Biomass not calories, sins not tragedies.

00:38 <ADragonDreaming> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc6vs-l5dkc

00:38 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

00:38 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Panic! At The Disco: I Write Sins Not Tragedies [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

00:42 <Cepheid> Nightmares.  Like FOEs of Etrian Odyssey.  Only a few differences:  1)  They appear anywhere.  2)  They chase you relentlessly, and emit an aura that prevents the usage of any special skills, your map, or any escape items.  3)  They get creepy music as they chase you.  4)  They're invincible.

00:46 <Cepheid> Sweet geebus.  300 damage on a character that only has 325 HP. x.x;

00:56 * Filly_Nightmares licks Cepheid

00:56 * Filly_Nightmares hats on him

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01:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: Who Is Your Favorite New Season 8 Side-Six Character? [ http://tinyurl.com/y98talrr ]

01:16 <Cepheid> I guess it would have been smart to make sure that character had a decent weapon and some armour on before fighting the boss.

01:19 <PinkieShy> oh wow..

01:19 <PinkieShy> I got banned on Roblox for uploading a Knuckles the hedgehog shirt.

01:19 <PinkieShy> I'm going to e-mail their appeal team. Has to be a error.

01:20 <Cepheid> There's currently a meme involving Knuckles, and it the people behind it and forwarding it are basically making it racist in nature.  On top of that, check the EULA for rules regarding copyrighted material.

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01:21 <PinkieShy> People on there upload copyrighted material all the time lol

01:22 <PinkieShy> There is people with undertale games, shirts, even lady gaga face on a shirt.

01:22 <Cepheid> So no rule against it then.  It's likely the meme association.

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01:33 <Cepheid> Hum.  Maxed out affection for Alice.  Apparently she just likes pretty much anything you give to her.  Even  useless junk.

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01:37 <Fn> This game called "crossout" has some stupid weirdness to it

01:38 <Fn> Sometimes you hit an enemy with a knife-like spike on your nose right into their wheel.

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01:38 <Fn> Enemy wheel is fine and I lost a knife thingy, a piece of my frame and a wheel attached to that...

01:39 <Fn> Totally makes sense!

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01:54 <Cepheid> Hum.  I have a choice.  Temple area next, or the Downtown area next.  Which do I go after?  I can only go after one.  The other presumably comes later, and I assume changes something along the road.

01:55 * Cepheid uses a random number generator. On a 1, temple, on a 2, downtown.

01:55 <Cepheid> Temple it is.

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01:58 * Cepheid coughs at the new game mechanic unlocked.

01:59 <ADragonDreaming> hm?

01:59 <ADragonDreaming> Annhilate the wicked witch?

01:59 <Cepheid> It's the mechanic that gives the game it's M rating.  It's functionally useful.

01:59 <ADragonDreaming> ah

02:00 <Cepheid> Apparently, it provides benefits to the whole team for the duration of the next dungeon run.

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02:04 * Schism ahhs.

02:05 <ADragonDreaming> Fir trees in this modpack are very similar to spruce.

02:05 <Ali> Annoying isn't it

02:06 <Schism> "An infinitely dense concentration of energy, hence mass.  Into which all of Equestria got sucked, I'd guess." "World go down de hoooole."

02:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1398 [ http://tinyurl.com/yd8tf2r5 ]

02:06 <Cepheid> Okay, Sleeping Beauty isn't just a name for that character.  She literally falls asleep ANYWHERE.  I just found her on the roof of the local investigative base.  Asleep.

02:06 <Cepheid> Standing up.

02:07 <Schism> Something something pillows.

02:07 <ADragonDreaming> Visual comparison indicates that fir trees are pretty much amplified spruce. Bigger.

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02:12 <ADragonDreaming> A 2x2 fir should serve as a nice landmark in this wasteland of mine.

02:12 <Ali> If it ever grows

02:12 <ADragonDreaming> I have infinite bonemeal.

02:13 * Ali eats it all for biomass. "Now you don't!"

02:13 <Cepheid> ...  Oh sh-

02:13 * ADragonDreaming replaced it with the nature essence.

02:13 <Cepheid> The EYES.  I know what they are for.

02:14 <Ali> The nids are coming?

02:15 <Cepheid> Hidden room in a lab, full of monitors displaying scenes from all over the Jail(The dungeon).  There weren't any cameras anywhere in the Jail.  Gee, I wonder what the next closest thing to a camera is.

02:17 <ADragonDreaming> ...how did you get out of the fence, cow.

02:17 <Cepheid> Magical Trevor?

02:18 <Schism> Haven't seen that one in a while.

02:18 <Saerydoth> heh, I remember that

02:19 <Saerydoth> my old roommate showed it to me and thought it was some kind of work of genius, I just thought it was dumb

02:19 * Schism also rolls over to Cepheid, and boops with some tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches. The tomato soup is also spiced with a lot of insanity sauce.

02:19 <Saerydoth> hm

02:19 <Schism> Saerydoth, yeah, Come to Kenya was much better.

02:19 * Saerydoth never thought about adding insanity sauce to tomato soup

02:19 * Cepheid noms.

02:19 <Schism> Works well.  Doesn't impact the flavour the same way that tabasco or most hot sauces do.

02:19 <Schism> Also, mix in a little gruyere and some cheddar to the soup, maybe some basil too.

02:20 <Cepheid> I'm going to assume maxing out affection with every character leads to the best ending, somehow.

02:20 <Schism> Cepheid: The developer, or at least the publisher, of the game is a twisted sort who want you to suffer, but yes, probably.

02:21 <Cepheid> In multiple ways, including making me somewhat uncomfortable, it seems.

02:25 <Cepheid> Alice saw a tea set.  And felt a sudden urge to have a tea party.  So long as no march hares and hatters, and dormice are involved, I'm game.

02:26 <ADragonDreaming> it's a trap

02:26 <Saerydoth> yeah I know, that's why I like insanity sauce

02:26 <Saerydoth> I don't like most hot sauce flavor

02:28 <Schism> Most hot sauces are vinegary.

02:28 <Cepheid> Hum, because I maxed out Alice's affection, and made it to chapter 3, the game has me doing one long series of events involving her.  I don't think I was meant to max out affection of one character before chapter 3.

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02:36 <Thelema5> Hello everypony

02:37 <Cepheid> I find it interesting how the character with the giant honking scissors is the one that does all the healing.  While the character that looks more like a healer mostly does direct damage and debuffs.  Confused classes yo.

02:39 <Cepheid> Holy geebus, the Temple Area 1 is 60x60 in size.

02:40 <Cepheid> Assuming (incorrectly, obviously.) that every time had to be explored, that'd be 3,600 tiles.

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03:00 <Cepheid> You're wandering what is the twisted, insane variant of the Queen of Heart's castle.  You find a trolley you can jump in, that you know moves on it's own.  What do you do?

03:00 <Schism> Jump in, of course.  How else to find out what it does?

03:01 <Cepheid> ... You make a fair point.

03:01 * Cepheid hops in.

03:01 * Cepheid hears someone yell "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!" Promptly takes 100 damage from a sharp wire held at neck height.

03:03 <Schism> Well, at least now you know.

03:03 <Cepheid> Nah, it actually just lead to some treasure.

03:04 <Cepheid> I wish this game had a "View credits early" option.  A few of the character's voices sound familiar, and I want to verify who does them.

03:04 <Cepheid> I already checked IMDB and other such sites, no luck.

03:06 <RazorSharpFang> My oil well is really drying  up, and it's hard to produce much plastic now.

03:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: The Shake Ups In Ponyville - I'm The Draconequus [Pop Rock] [ http://tinyurl.com/ycw7o8pn ]

03:07 <Cepheid> Time to go look for more.  On the other hand you could also apply a technique called "Kill the planet with pollution."  Oil is infinite, so you can use some techniques to increase the minimal output of 2 oil/sec.

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03:08 <RazorSharpFang> I've already stuck 2 speed-modules on the oil jack itself, and productivity modules on the processors.

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03:10 <Cepheid> I'd argue that speed modules serve oil refineries better.  But yes, speed modules on the pumpjacks helps.  Look into beacons.

03:10 <Cepheid> They drain a lot of energy, but they apply module effects to everything in their effective radius at 50%.

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03:11 <Cepheid> I've got an oil field set up in a base beaconed to hell and back with speed modules 3 in everything, it's generating something like 80 oil/second.

03:11 <RazorSharpFang> The refineries are mostly just sitting there waiting for the oil to come in - speed would do nothing for them.

03:11 <Cepheid> Right, forgot about that.

03:11 <Cepheid> Then yeah, productivity would increase output a bit.

03:12 <RazorSharpFang> There's another oil-well not too far from base, but it's surrounded by 5 camps.

03:12 <Cepheid> Got access to the materials to either handcraft or set up producers for military science and high-tech science?  Go for tanks.

03:12 <Cepheid> Get yourself a tank.

03:13 <Cepheid> Tanks are insanely durable against bugs.  You can even ram their bases and destroy them.

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03:13 <RazorSharpFang> So far I've been deploying laser turrets to kill the bases and worms.

03:13 <Cepheid> That works too.

03:13 <Cepheid> It's called Turret Creep.  Works, but tanks are far more effective.  Especially packed with AP or Uranium ammo.

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03:14 <RazorSharpFang> I'm not far enough in that respect yet. Just started researching nuclear power, but i need more plastic for the components.

03:16 <RazorSharpFang> Is there a way of grabbing/putting all items of a class?

03:17 <Cepheid> Shift+Click moves an entire stack.  CTRL+Click moves all items of that class.

03:17 <Cepheid> CTRL+Click on an empty spot in a box and it moves as many items as possible over.

03:17 <Cepheid> Also works on the boxes themselves.

03:17 <RazorSharpFang> I've needed that for so long

03:20 <RazorSharpFang> I was literally mining chests for their stuff 'cos it was faster than shift-clicking every slot.

03:25 <RazorSharpFang> Is there a better way of transporting fluids like crude oil than just a very long pipe?

03:28 <Cepheid> Either trains, or using a long line of underground pipes if you want to be able to walk around the pipeway, etc.

03:28 <Ali> I like trains *train go by behind her*

03:35 <RazorSharpFang> Will enemies that attack due to pollution will they ignore turrets?

03:37 <Cepheid> Enemies attack due to pollution touching their base.  Any amount of it.  Higher concentrations result in more attacks, as does proximity.  The usual priority of attacks is to go after the player, then military buildings, followed by regular buildings.  Radars and turrets are considered military.  That said, they will attack the first thing they see, and change priority if something else comes in range.

03:38 <Cepheid> Outside of pollution, radar scanning will also attract attention.

03:46 <RazorSharpFang> my evolution's now 40%

03:46 <Cepheid> Nothing serious then.

03:47 <RazorSharpFang> Lots of medium biters and spitters

03:47 <Cepheid> Yeah, as the evolution goes up you'll see more and more.  The progression table can be seen here: https://wiki.factorio.com/Enemies#Spawn_chances_by_evolution_factor

03:48 <Cepheid> It's when it hits 55% that things start to get difficult.  And a bit crazy when you hit 90%.

03:49 <Cepheid> Hum.  Princess Moon Bunny doesn't want the team going to the Temple area.  Wonder why.

03:51 <Cepheid> Hmm?  What's this area in the City Streets region that ope-  *Dies*  It's the final dungeon.

03:51 <RazorSharpFang> More solar panels, my accumulators I guess.

03:52 <RazorSharpFang> I'm wondering if migrating to electric furnaces is a bad idea, given that I'm still dependent on steam energy.

03:52 <Cepheid> Efficiency modules.

03:52 <Cepheid> Brings their energy consumption down considerably.

03:53 <Cepheid> Even level 1 units are extremely effective.

03:53 <Cepheid> Basically makes it viable to run a large number of electric furnaces.  The only other issue is they're 3x3 instead of 2x2.

03:53 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, I was surprised at how big they are.

03:53 <Cepheid> Otherwise, it reduces your need for coal, and if you use efficiency modules, pollution as well.

03:53 <Cepheid> So they are, in fact, worth it.

03:54 <RazorSharpFang> Mind you, the modules require the red circuits, which require plastic, which requires oil, which I have almost none of.

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03:55 <Cepheid> Sounds like you need a car, tons of AP ammo, and some powerful body armour to go clear some oil wells.

03:56 <RazorSharpFang> Or turret creep.

03:56 <Cepheid> I just have a preference for the direct approach as I'm not very good at turret creep.

03:56 <Thelema5> What game is this?

03:57 <Cepheid> Factorio.

03:57 <Thelema5> Aah.

03:57 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang's playing Factorio.  I'm playing a game I won't mention the name of here.

04:03 <Thelema5> XD

04:03 <Cepheid> It's not that the game's name is bad, it's more along the lines of the content of the game.

04:06 <Thelema5> I figured as much :P

04:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: A Bunch of People Around the Fandom Review - School Daze [ http://tinyurl.com/y7a7e3fb ]

04:07 <Cepheid> Unfortunate, too.  It's a good game, for a dungeon crawler.  Hard to find games like that these days, still.

04:09 <Cepheid> I say that, but as of late, the genre's been experiencing a bit of a revival.  No idea why.  I'm gonna chalk it up to "The people at Idea Factory like these kinds of games, so they pop 'em out on a regular basis."  As besides Atlus, Idea Factory seems to be the other major developer of them.

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04:11 <RazorSharpFang> Well, if they can get a following, the niche titles should still be profitable.

04:11 <Cepheid> That is true.

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04:13 <RazorSharpFang> I now have 6 pumpjacks at this remote oil zone, defended by 3 laser turrets that are behind walls.

04:13 <Cepheid> That said, this particular game seems to have struck a chord with players.  There's a sequel for it being released later this year in Japan on the PS4.

04:13 <Thelema5> I need cheetos right now, and there are none to be had

04:14 <Cepheid> I have two potential solutions for your problem.

04:14 <Cepheid> 1)  Go out to the nearest corner store/gas station and buy some cheetos.  2)  Eat something else.

04:18 <Thelema5> Solution 1- greatly appreciated, but I live in the middle of nowhere in the country... the nearest corner store that is open at this hour is a 35 minute drive away.  Solution 2- Yes.  Agreed. I have procured some choice cheddar from the fridge and am enjoying it very much

04:18 * Thelema5 offers some around

04:18 <Cepheid> I am nomming some clam chowder, myself.  I'm good, thanks.

04:18 <Thelema5> Cool

04:20 <RazorSharpFang> Man, it's a good thing I have these accumulators, else my laser turrets wouldn't function at night.

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04:24 <Thelema5> Hi there Starwatcher

04:24 <Thelema5> How are you tonight?

04:25 <Thelema5> Be forwarned, I'm personally feeling very much alone

04:25 <Thelema5> Did you watch Season 8 ep. 3?

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04:34 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, do efficiency modules reduce pollution output?

04:35 <Cepheid> Yes.  Pollution is correlated to electricity usage.  Therefore, reducing the electricity usage will reduce pollution as well.

04:36 <RazorSharpFang> I'm surprised how polluting electric miners are.

04:37 <Cepheid> Arguably it makes a kind of sense.

04:37 <Cepheid> The miners are grinding away the ore, that creates a lot of dust.

04:37 <Cepheid> Dust is a *TYPE* of pollutant.

04:37 <Cepheid> Especially if it gets into water, and such.  The ore can pollute water that way.

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04:41 <RazorSharpFang> I'm surprised you can't attach modules to the radar

04:42 <RazorSharpFang> I'm already seeing the difference the efficiency modules have on the pollution map

04:43 <Schism> Hmmm, there's this... https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Advanced_Radar

04:44 * Schism also provides pones with some wasabi green peas.

04:47 <Cepheid> There's also a mod that implements a scanning radar.  Works like an actual, real radar.  Effective, but a bit buggy.  Crashed on me a few times.

04:49 * Cepheid buys overpriced gear from the wandering merchant. Thumbelina now has defense worthy of a front-liner.

04:49 <Cepheid> And she's in the back row as a mage. >.>

04:59 <RazorSharpFang> It's finally happening, my iron ore field that I started with is running out; only 20k ore left.

05:12 <Cepheid> I find it interesting that the game lets me enter the tower at this point.  I tried earlier.  I nearly got a gameover in one battle because everything struck for 1,200+ damage.

05:14 <Schism> Thelema5: Just nommed down upon some tuna melt sandwiches.  This is sufficient for me to get sleep now.  o3o

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05:22 <RazorSharpFang> Man, double efficiency modules on every structure really reduces the pollution output by a tonne.

05:24 <Cepheid> Like I said, there's a relation to energy usage and pollution.  It's a good way to estimate how much pollution will be generated by anything:  Look at what it uses energy-wise.  This applies to non-electrical items, too.  That said, non-electric items generally can't have their efficiency improved.

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05:25 <RazorSharpFang> 18 pollution is pretty high for a single structure...

05:28 <PinkieShy> heh

05:28 <PinkieShy> bought the shampoo and conditioner that's not 2 in 1 this time around..

05:29 <PinkieShy> My hair is like all silky soft, shiny and clean :D

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05:35 <Finwe> Good morning, my tiny perissodactyls.

05:38 * Ali is a what now

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05:49 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ1Pz0tWAAEPxHs.jpg:large The lack of context in this image makes it hilarious.

05:50 <RazorSharpFang> Are those PS4 controls? I got the impression you were playing on windows.

05:50 <Ali> wut is that

05:51 <Cepheid> The Witch and the Hundred Knight 2, PS4.

05:51 <Cepheid> ARPG game from NISA.

05:53 <Cepheid> Anyhow, I need to head to sleep.  Gotta be up at 2 PM, and I also have a lot of work to do.

05:54 <RazorSharpFang> Night

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05:56 <RazorSharpFang> Hey ConfusionRift

05:56 <ConfusionRift> Hello RazorSharpFang.

05:56 <ConfusionRift> And hello everypony.

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06:17 <RazorSharpFang> I've fully mined all my iron.

06:17 <ConfusionRift> Uh oh. Time to go out and hunt for iron.

06:18 <RazorSharpFang> Nearest deposit is a tiny little 2k patch.

06:18 <RazorSharpFang> Should  I even bother with that?

06:19 <ConfusionRift> 2k isn't much. Might wanna look for the mills.

06:21 <RazorSharpFang> Mills?

06:22 <ConfusionRift> Millions.

06:22 <RazorSharpFang> Is it weird that I was hoping you could obtain iron by refining the blood of the foes you slay?

06:22 <ConfusionRift> Like 2M.

06:22 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.

06:22 <ConfusionRift> That... would be an interesting chemical mod.

06:24 <ConfusionRift> "You can separate blood into bare essentials you can use later. Like, red cells, white cells, water, iron, etc."

06:24 <RazorSharpFang> Possible candidates are { 2k, close}, {115k, far}, {500k, very far}, {4.7M, even further, enemies}.

06:26 <ConfusionRift> Might wanna venture to that 115k, and once you get trains or faster conveyers, start planning for further resources.

06:26 <ConfusionRift> The tank will help you greatly with that.

06:26 <RazorSharpFang> I was just thinking of driving a car, loading it and driving it back and unloading it.

06:30 <ConfusionRift> For the time being, that would help.

06:31 <ConfusionRift> Tanks yawns at trees, small rocks, and bases. :P

06:35 <RazorSharpFang> I'm finally crafting modular armor.

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06:41 <RazorSharpFang> I don't suppose there's internal combustion engines for producing electrical power without water, is there?

06:43 <ConfusionRift> It's either steam or solar.

06:43 <ConfusionRift> And nuclear.

06:46 <ConfusionRift> Solar is the only thing that doesn't use water.

06:46 <RazorSharpFang> Evolution's at 44% now.

06:46 <ConfusionRift> o_0;

06:47 <RazorSharpFang> 41% time, 37% pollution, 23% spawner kills.

06:48 <RazorSharpFang> My iron production's shrunk to a trickle - time to look elsewhere.

06:48 <ConfusionRift> At 55% is when things get... interesting.

06:49 <ConfusionRift> Very low chance of small biters, 80% chance of medium biters, and 12% chance of big biters.

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06:50 * Ali noms on ConfusionRift and RazorSharpFang ankles

06:50 <ConfusionRift> Aaaah! (boops Ali)

06:51 * Ali is a nid, boops are ineffective! She keeps nomming ankles!

06:51 <RazorSharpFang> The forests are a pain to navigate through, but they reduce pollution right?

06:54 <ConfusionRift> Yes, they do absorb pollution by mass.

06:55 <ConfusionRift> So it's a good idea to not go crazy removing large patches of trees, unless you plan to expand.

06:58 <RazorSharpFang> The research just absorbs so many materials.

06:58 <ConfusionRift> Yep.

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06:59 <ConfusionRift> It gets worse on later researches that require advanced parts.

07:02 <RazorSharpFang> My iron production has dropped to an all-time low. Better set up another mining operation.

07:06 * ConfusionRift continues to boop Ali. :P

07:06 * Ali keeps nomming ConfusionRift's ankles

07:10 <RazorSharpFang> Mind you, I have a problem that I'm producing way too much solid fuel to know what to do with it.

07:11 <ConfusionRift> You will need that later for trains, tanks, and cars.

07:11 <RazorSharpFang> Right, but I have 10 iron chests full of the stuff already, and it just keeps coming.

07:12 * Ali noms on the chests

07:12 * ConfusionRift hears beeping. "Might wanna check those chests."

07:14 <RazorSharpFang> That *wirrr* sound doesn't sound like beeping to me.

07:14 <ConfusionRift> Oh, right. The beeping indicates a task is pending.

07:17 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Miss Ali, Mr RazorSharpFang

07:17 <Finwe> o7

07:18 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

07:19 * Finwe pre-emptively noms on Ali's hooves.

07:35 <RazorSharpFang> Wow, the small iron patch is already gone.

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10:37 <Koopz> ugh... those emojis look dumb on this client...

10:46 <RazorSharpFang> They don't even render properly on mine lol

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12:01 <Finwe> o3o

12:01 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony.

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15:47 <RyuImperator> hello

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18:27 <Cepheid> So, interesting incident today.

18:27 <Cepheid> I've been wanting to work on a first-person dungeon crawler, which is fine and dandy.

18:28 <Cepheid> I was gonna start over from scratch.

18:28 <Cepheid> I just got an e-mail that someone made a pull request on an old, first-person dungeon crawler project I had published on GitHub.

18:29 <Cepheid> The project, last I worked on it, was sufficiently implemented for traversing custom maps, etc.

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18:35 <Cepheid> So essentially I have something to work with already as we speak, I just need to clean it up.

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18:38 <RyuImperator> hello Cepheid

18:40 <Cepheid> Hoi.

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19:03 <Cepheid> So what is everyone up to today?

19:04 * Ali is cowering due to storms

19:06 <RyuImperator> well I am still on rigging of my 3D pony

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19:10 <Cepheid> I'm on my way to sit in a lecture hall for all of 1 and a half hours.

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19:11 <Jahnesta> Evening all

19:12 <RyuImperator> hello Jahnesta

19:12 <Cepheid> Hoi hoi.

19:12 <Jahnesta> Hey RyuImperator :D

19:13 <Jahnesta> (Yes it took me that long to type your name :P )

19:13 <RyuImperator> thank you :D

19:13 <Cepheid> Man.  That old code base is 4 years old.  I wonder how much I have improved since then.

19:13 <RyuImperator> but, have you no autocomplete?

19:14 <Jahnesta> Yes,  but when I typed your name, it just gave up :P

19:14 <RyuImperator> copy&paste?

19:14 <Jahnesta> Like, "Ok I dunno what you're trying to say, you're on your own!)

19:14 <Jahnesta> "

19:15 <Jahnesta> Nah, I'm on a tablet, so trying that would take longer as typing it :3

19:15 <Jahnesta> But anyhoo, what's up?

19:15 <RyuImperator> I just idle international :D

19:16 <Jahnesta> Cool

19:16 <Jahnesta> I saw you're making a 3D pony?

19:17 <RyuImperator> I am currently rigging my 3D Pony

19:17 <RyuImperator> https://ryuimperator.deviantart.com/art/Rainbow-Dash-in-my-Style-726475915

19:18 <Jahnesta> That's pretty cool!

19:18 <RyuImperator> at least it look a bit like a pony and not like a monster xD

19:20 <Jahnesta> Well, it could definitely be worse! 3D modelling must be hard!

19:20 <Cepheid> Criticism-wise, something is off but I can't figure out what.  That said it is recognizable, and aside from whatever is off, it is well-done.

19:21 <Jahnesta> The snout maybe?

19:21 <Jahnesta> And the eyes may just be a bit too egg shaped :P

19:22 <Cepheid> ...  it's the mouth from the front-runner perspective.  Looks weird on something that I normally see as 2D.

19:22 <Jahnesta> (She IS an egghead after all!)

19:22 <Cepheid> And yeah.  The head seems a little on the tall side.  Still better than some models I've seen.  And better than what I can do on my own.

19:23 <RyuImperator> it's not that hard, if you do low poly creatures and cartoon like

19:23 <Cepheid> Then again my art style in general tends to be angular.  Straight lines, few curves, etc.

19:23 <RyuImperator> the head, the eyes and the mouth

19:23 <RyuImperator> is off

19:24 <Cepheid> I don't like doing smooth curves for some reason.  I can do them but they just don't seem to work well visually for me.

19:24 <Cepheid> Which will be a pain for my project.

19:25 <Jahnesta> RyuImperator what program do you use?

19:25 <RyuImperator> blender

19:26 <Cepheid> The basic theme is order versus chaos.  I perceive monsters of order to be structured.  Geometric.  Crystalline and straight edges.  That's easy for me.

19:26 <Jahnesta> I tried looking for a program made specifically for beginners, so it would actually be usable for me xP

19:27 <Cepheid> Chaos on the other hand would be impossible angles and geometries, curves, blobs and the like.  Using shapes I am not good with.

19:27 <Cepheid> Jahnesta, Blender is atypical of most 3D modelling software.

19:27 <Cepheid> You won't find software that is easier.  Just more or less featureful.

19:28 <Jahnesta> Sorry, but what's "atypical" :P

19:28 <Cepheid> Common.  Similar.  The same.

19:28 <Jahnesta> Oh, okie

19:28 <Jahnesta> But it already looked too hard, I r

19:28 <Jahnesta> I tried it

19:28 <Cepheid> Their UIs are mostly all similar.  Four panes with different views of the scene.  Various tools or pullout windows for specific features.

19:29 <Jahnesta> And sorry, my English is bad lol ^^

19:29 <Jahnesta> I could give it another go

19:29 <Cepheid> It's fine.  "Atypical" is not a common word.  Also I think I misused it.

19:29 <Cepheid> Anyways at school.  Gotta walk to lecture hall.

19:30 <RyuImperator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kh9O2bKVEM

19:30 <Cepheid> And i did misuse it.  Inmeant typical not atypical.  Atypical means "different". "not the same" etc.

19:31 <RyuImperator> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ya3nqqvpp80ba2/Bildschirmfoto%20vom%202017-08-30%2021-11-49.png?dl=0

19:31 <Jahnesta> Sounds logical now that i think about it

19:31 <Jahnesta> And took luck Cepheid!

19:32 <RyuImperator> where are you from Jahnesta?

19:32 <Jahnesta> RyuImperator did you make that?

19:32 <Cepheid> Oh hey.  Strike is over.  No 9 minute walk.

19:32 <Jahnesta> You first! :3

19:32 <RyuImperator> It's not my tutorial, but it is a good Tutorial how to make a Dragon :D

19:33 <RyuImperator> and I am from germany

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19:33 <Cepheid> Closest I've been to Germany is Hengelo, Netherlands.

19:33 <Jahnesta> Oh cool!

19:33 <Cepheid> Literally less than an hour from the German border.

19:33 <Jahnesta> I'm actually Dutch :D

19:34 <Jahnesta> There isn't really a border it seems

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19:34 <Jahnesta> When I went there, I expected like a wall or a guard post, but just a sign..

19:35 <Cepheid> There is.  Just probably not in the sense of between the US and Canada.  Very secure, that border.  More so as of late due to problems in the US.

19:35 <Jahnesta> Maybe even an office area where they would investigate you :P

19:35 <Cepheid> Borders generally aren't literal walls.

19:35 <Jahnesta> Yeah, noticed that too

19:36 <Jahnesta> I thought like a tall brick wall, with wires at the top

19:36 <Jahnesta> And a little guard office in front of it

19:36 <RyuImperator> why must I think on the one southpark episode xD

19:37 <Jahnesta> Not gonna lie, seeing just a blue sign with "Germany" on it, was a bit of an letdown :3

19:37 <Jahnesta> Oh with that Canada wall?

19:37 <Jahnesta> xD

19:38 <Jahnesta> What if your house was in front of that sign, what country would you live in?

19:38 <Cepheid> Even that is mostly just a fence, open plains or a river

19:38 <Jahnesta> Yeah, I thought it would be more exiting, dramatic! Secure! I dunno xP

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19:40 <RyuImperator> weard, it exists no english wiki article for exclavé

19:40 <Jahnesta> Exclavé?

19:41 <RyuImperator> it's a part of a country what lies in another country

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19:42 <Jahnesta> Ahh, confusing countries :P

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20:01 <Cepheid> Basically, borders are invisible barriers.  You cross them without going through an official border crossing station, you're committing a crime.  Usually.  There are rare exceptions because of circumstances where it's not illegal, like say, a city that happened to somehow grow across borders.

20:03 <Cepheid> That said, people cross the borders illegally all the time

20:03 <Cepheid> Lot of illegal border crossings from Mexico to the US and vice versa.  And as of late, due to certain issues in the US, we've had a lot of people leaving the US to Canada via illegal border crossings, seeking asylum.

20:06 <Cepheid> A majority of the cases are basically concerns by immigrants, illegal and legal, that they will get deported forcefully.

20:07 <RyuImperator> good night everypony ^^

20:08 <Jahnesta> Night RyuImperator!

20:08 <Cepheid> G'night.

20:09 <Jahnesta> And Cepheid there really was just a sign, like the ones you will see when leaving a city here

20:09 <Cepheid> Yeah, some borders are more lax about it.

20:09 <Cepheid> It depends on the level of friendliness between the countries.  European union I think has different border rules, too.

20:09 <Cepheid> In the case of Canada and the US, there are distinct points where you can enter either country.  One of them is in my hometown of Cornwall.

20:09 <Jahnesta> It has the name of the city on it at one end, and on the other end the name with a red line across it

20:10 <Cepheid> It's a pair of bridges, one to an island, then another from the island to the US state of New York.

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20:11 <Cepheid> The border crossing stations are on the bridges, last I recall.  It's like a toll booth on a highway.  You ride up, talk to a guy in an office, state the reason for going through, and show them documentation.

20:11 <Jahnesta> During new year's eve, a lot of people, and I mean like a lot lot! Go to Germany since fireworks that are illegal here, can be bought nearly everywhere there!

20:11 <PonyZx> Hi c:

20:11 <Jahnesta> Heyy! :D

20:11 <Jahnesta> Cepheid and what kind of reasons would get you in Canada

20:11 <Jahnesta> ?

20:12 <PonyZx> How are you ponys? ovo

20:13 <Cepheid> Simplest reason would be "pleasure" which indicates anything from vacation to gambling to exploration, etc.

20:14 <Jahnesta> Ahh

20:14 <Cepheid> If you indicate business, you may need a work visa to work.  Also, you can be forbidden if you lie about anything you have on your person, especially in regards to drugs.  Coming from the Netherlands, I would highly advise not bringing anything other than prescription drugs under your name, with paperwork for it.

20:14 <Jahnesta> And I'm alright PonyZx, how about you?

20:15 <Jahnesta> Yeahh, good idea Cepheid!

20:15 <Cepheid> In fact, I guarantee that coming from the Netherlands, you are going to be pulled aside to have your luggage inspected.

20:15 <PonyZx> Boring, just wait for a comiss

20:15 <Jahnesta> Heh :P

20:15 <Cepheid> It doesn't matter who you are, either.

20:15 <Cepheid> I've been pulled aside by Canadian Customs when returning from the Netherlands.

20:15 <Cepheid> They investigated every item in my bag.

20:15 <Cepheid> Laptop and phone included.

20:16 * PonyZx hug Jahnesta

20:16 * Jahnesta Snugs PonyZx back :3

20:16 <Cepheid> Basically, you want in?  A set of simple rules to follow:  If you don't know how much money you have in Canadian currency, after conversion from Euros, just declare that you have $10,000 or more.  Worst that'll happen is they'll count it, and if it comes up lower no big deal.  If it comes up higher than $10,000, you won't get a fine.

20:17 <Cepheid> Don't bring any medication that you don't need, or any type of drugs.  Don't bring any food from your home country AT ALL.

20:17 <Jahnesta> Cepheid yeah, I've heard it can be easier here to get illegal drugs than in some other countries...

20:17 <Cepheid> Anything biological for that matter, such as wood, veggies, fruits, food, etc.  Don't pack it.

20:17 <Jahnesta> Not that

20:17 <Jahnesta> Not that I have any experience with it!

20:18 <Cepheid> Otherwise, you should be fine.  So the gist:  Only the medicines you need.  No biological items like food or wood products.  If you're not sure how much money you have in Canadian currency, just declare you have $10,000 or more.

20:18 <Cepheid> Oh, and no weapons.

20:19 <Jahnesta> ^^

20:19 <Jahnesta> ^^

20:19 <Cepheid> If you plan to work here, bring a work visa, and don't lie about the fact that you are planning to work.

20:19 <Cepheid> I'm only advising this because every single one of these common situations happens on a daily basis.  There's a show about it, in fact.

20:20 <Jahnesta> Sorry I gtg, still have that stupid internet time lock..

20:20 <Cepheid> Border Security, it's called.  The initial version covered Canadian Border Security, later versions covered American version.

20:20 <Cepheid> No prob, take care.

20:20 <Jahnesta> ≥:/

20:20 <Jahnesta> I've seen that with my dad, yeah!

20:20 <Jahnesta> But see you all laterz! Byee

20:20 <Jahnesta> :D

20:20 <Cepheid> Laters.

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20:30 <PonyZx> oco

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20:33 <Cepheid> Bleh...  I have a headache.  I blame the swarm of smokers outside the entrances of the school today.  Lot of them inexplicably.

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20:49 <Cepheid> ...  okay that's new.  Something just popped inside my nose and now I smell rotten eggs.  ...  ... *Fwump* *unconscious*

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21:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Community Soapbox #86 - Future of EG, Starlight and Feminism, Sunset's Next Goal, and More!  [ http://tinyurl.com/yar7gsud ]

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21:33 <Cepheid> My head is burning.

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22:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2580 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybgaatk3 ]

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22:26 <PonyZx> Hi Thelema5 and Cyan_Spark

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22:28 <PinkieShy> So.. :P

22:28 <PinkieShy> Went to the doctor told her about feeling sleepy more often.

22:29 <PinkieShy> She wants me to go back in 3 months for a wellness checkup and 2 weeks before that.. I go in for blood test.

22:29 <PonyZx> Hi PinkieShy

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22:35 <PonyZx> o.o

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22:37 <PonyZx> Hi Bubble-Berry

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22:56 <Cepheid> Good, Pinkie.

23:04 * Filly_Nightmares floofs and nestles on Cepheid

23:05 <Cepheid> Geezus, what kind of uneducated pleb does my dad think I am?  A millennial?  He was shocked I knee of the song Hot Blooded.

23:21 <Fn> Technically you are a millenial

23:24 <Tirek> We're all millenials now.

23:27 <PonyZx> hi again x.x

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23:33 <PonyZx> Hi Starwatcher

23:35 <Cepheid> That was a part of the joke, Fn.

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