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00:02 <Cepheid> I know. :P
00:02 <Cepheid> I've already acknowledged I'm not going to pass one exam, so I'm focusing on the remaining exam.
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01:32 * Cepheid flopples off to bed.
01:33 * Ali tucks Cepheid to bed
01:35 <Cepheid> ... I forgot to take my meds today. No wonder I'm feeling off today. Mostly stressing over my cat for some reason?
01:35 <Ali> Spitfire still trying to use your arm?
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01:46 <Cepheid> Yeah. The stress is more of the "what will happen to him if something happens to me?" Kind of stress.
01:47 <Cepheid> Not a the "is he okay in the head?" Kind.
01:49 <Cepheid> ... And now I have "I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts" stuck in my head.
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02:18 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
02:20 * Ali snugs on Thelema5
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02:24 * Cepheid noms.
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02:33 <Cepheid> How was your day Schism?
02:33 <Schism> 6 hours of trudging through that crap.
02:34 <Schism> How about yours?
02:37 <Cepheid> Eh. So-so. Not as bad as yours though. Mostly just a constant headache.
02:42 <Cepheid> Far as I can tell it is a muscle-based headache. It is I'm the same spot, and there is a point where I can apply pressure and move a muscle around. Torn or swollen muscle perhaps?
02:50 <Schism> Cepheid: Sounds like a swollen one, yeah.
02:51 <Schism> I hope you feel better there soon. o.o
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02:54 * Schism provides some to Surry! Wif honey mustard barbecue sauce dip.
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02:59 <Thelema5> Does anyone here use a dishpan / washbasin in their kitchen sink?
03:00 <Thelema5> I'm not familar with the concept - it's not common in the US- but it seems to make a whole lot of sense so I'm thinking of buying one
03:01 <Schism> Yah, a washbasin in the sink, with a dishpan on the side.
03:02 <Thelema5> Do you find them useful as opposed to just washing dishes in the sink?
03:03 <Schism> Definitely. The sink stopper never holds water properly, in comparison, and it's easier to remove the scum from the top if necessary.
03:04 <Thelema5> Cool, that's what I thought- also would be helpful to lift out dishes waiting to be washed if I needed the sink for something else
03:04 <Thelema5> Or even to empty dirty dishes brought to me as I'm washing
03:04 * Schism nodnods.
03:05 <Thelema5> Thanks!
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04:22 <DashedRainbows> How are you Thelema5?
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05:46 * Cepheid awakens from sleep.
05:50 <Golden> Just encountered a wall hacker in tf2..
05:53 <Cepheid> https://m.imgur.com/gallery/YXSKy
05:54 * Filly_Nightmares nests on Golden
05:55 * Golden smiles to Filly as he was in his pyro gear still. "Hehe evening."
05:56 * Filly_Nightmares wants to play TF2 wif
05:56 * Filly_Nightmares needs to sleepies though
05:57 * Golden removes his mask smiling "Sleep first then play Tf2."
05:57 * Filly_Nightmares hugs Golden's ears and goes sleepies
05:57 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini
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05:58 <Cepheid> Lately I have been playing path of exile again.
06:02 <Golden> Interesting
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06:04 <Ponyponpon> Hi its razzaroo
06:04 <Ponyponpon> under another name
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06:08 <Golden> Cool
06:10 <Cepheid> I need to shave. Food keeps getting stuck in my beard and moustache.
06:10 <Ponyponpon> Cool :3
06:13 <Ponyponpon> 🗼🐭🍝
06:14 <Ponyponpon> guess the movie
06:15 <Cepheid> I might enjoy poems like the hunting of the snark if I knees how they were supposed to be read.
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06:19 <Ali> Man Cepheid if you don't expand fast, the bugs really start moving in fast don't they?
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06:22 <Cepheid> They do yeah.
06:23 <Cepheid> You can make matters worse or better by tweaking the settings too.
06:23 * Cepheid grabs Schism and Ali and goes on a hunt for a Snark. He also brings a beaver.
06:24 * Ali squeaks
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06:26 <Cepheid> That danged game I want to play(I promised the parents I wouldn't play anymore it until after exams because of obsessive behaviour about it) has me reading stories involving characters from it.
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06:39 <Ali> Cepheid, do you keep using basic inserters or do you usually use the fast/stacked ones?
06:40 <Cepheid> I usually end up just using the fast ones everywhere. I rarely use the basic inserters.
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06:48 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Nini
06:48 <Ali> Night
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06:56 <Cepheid> Okay. Time to place some ice on my neck.
07:00 <Ali> Cepheid, is there a faster way to make walls?
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07:06 <Cepheid> How do you mean? Crafting them or building them?
07:06 <Ali> Crafting them
07:06 <Ali> Just takes so long
07:07 <Cepheid> Not really. Aside from hoping you find a large enough patch of stone and supplying two or three belts of stone brick(one along each side, with the fourth side for taking walls out of the assembler.) to an assembler.
07:11 <Cepheid> Essentially the fastest way to produce something is to find a way to supply as much resources as needed to one or more assemblers. In the absolute best setup I can think of, 12 belts of stone brick can be supplied to a single assembler for walls.
07:12 <Ali> 12 belts? That's a lot
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07:18 <Cepheid> Probably too much. But it can be done.
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10:01 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, any idea how I'd install mods? (If you're there and available)
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10:22 <Cepheid> Two approaches.
10:22 <Cepheid> The first is to access the mod menu from the main menu. You can select "Install Mods" from there, and it'll bring up a mod search.
10:23 <Cepheid> Alternatively, download them from the mod portal website, and put them in the "mods" folder of either the game's %APPDATA% folder, or the game's root folder. Usually the one that the game is using for all it's configuration.
10:23 <Cepheid> Thus, if you're using the installer version or steam version of the game, the %APPDATA%/Roaming/Factorio folder. Otherwise, wherever you installed the game.
10:23 <Cepheid> Sorry for the delay, RazorSharpFang. I wasn't paying attention.
10:31 <RazorSharpFang> Neither am I.
10:32 <Cepheid> Dangit is no one paying attention!?
10:32 <RazorSharpFang> Interestingly, on Win7 %APPDATA% is actually already roaming.
10:32 <Cepheid> In any case, I advise, at the least, Resource Spawner Overhaul. If you want greater challenge, add Rampant.
10:33 <Cepheid> The former changes resource spawning to be more interesting. Patches tend to be larger and denser, but spread further apart, and there's less(but not 0%) likelihood of finding patches that are combined.
10:33 <RazorSharpFang> Do I need to make any changes to `mod-list.json` ?
10:36 <Cepheid> Game does that automatically.
10:39 <RazorSharpFang> Aw, you need an account to download mods?
10:41 <RazorSharpFang> Strange that login isn't shared between www.factorio.com and mods.factorio.com
10:42 <RazorSharpFang> Should the zip archive be extracted and placed in the mods folder, or is the archive fine?
10:43 <RazorSharpFang> Ah, zip archive whole.
10:47 <Cepheid> Archive is fine.
10:47 <Cepheid> Sorry, was off again.
10:47 <RazorSharpFang> Perfectly fine - IRC is usually like that, just part of the medium.
10:47 <Cepheid> But yeah, you need an account to download mods. That said, nothing stopping someone from simply passing mods off to others.
10:51 <RazorSharpFang> Does rampant respect the vanilla evolution settings?
10:59 <Cepheid> I believe so, but don't quote me on that. On the other hand, Resource Spawner Overhaul affects bug bases and spawning.
11:00 <RazorSharpFang> I presume that there's no conflict between them
11:00 <Cepheid> You can change the settings in the game's mod menu. Should be a switch on two separate tabs(Why, I don't know) that says "Use vanilla biter gen" or something like that.
11:00 <RazorSharpFang> How quickly ought I to move to electricity?
11:00 <Cepheid> My experience is that Rampant respects evolution and biter settings in the game.
11:01 <Cepheid> For a Rampant game? I'd advise going straight for turrets ASAP.
11:01 <Cepheid> So you'll need to get electricity up and going quickly for at least one lab.
11:01 <RazorSharpFang> Evolution factor 0.0001. Uhoh.
11:04 <RazorSharpFang> I've turned the time factor to 0 this game, so hopefully me being slow won't impact me too much
11:07 <Cepheid> It should help.
11:07 <Cepheid> Ah, bugs in ARPGs. Nothing like fighting a boss enemy that glitched out and is invisible.
11:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1185 [ http://tinyurl.com/yab43nuz ]
11:07 <Cepheid> And can kill me in one attack.
11:09 <RazorSharpFang> Got my first electric mining drill, with a boiler, steam engine and pump. You really progress from burner stuff fast.
11:11 <Cepheid> If you want to, yeah.
11:12 <RazorSharpFang> Making a lab downtown, churning fast, and I'm space-bound.
11:13 <RazorSharpFang> I think I had one item too few there.
11:14 <RazorSharpFang> I should try the "steam-only" challenge this game.
11:16 <Cepheid> Heh.
11:16 <RazorSharpFang> I have some oil wells right near the water, so that makes solid fuel/steam real easy.
11:20 <Cepheid> If you are using RSO, it will spawn most of the ores you need to start with in small patches near you by default.
11:22 <RazorSharpFang> My iron's quite far from the water, so that's kinda painful with the small electric poles.
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11:30 <Cepheid> Ye know, interesting question: what is it like for a cat or any other small critter, to be picked up? Like, they think they are some fierce hunter, and then suddenly their owner picks them up and they are all helpless.
11:30 <RazorSharpFang> Well, little kittens are picked up by their mother.
11:31 <RazorSharpFang> So they're probably going to think those are pretty similar.
11:31 <Cepheid> At the least I know spitfire kind of likes the change of scenery. Until I cradle him anyways. Then he's mesmerized by the change in perspective(he's upside down while I cradle him), so he kinda puts his paws out in the air and spreads them.
11:32 <Cepheid> He also looks around in a "what in the hell is going on here? Everything looks weird!" Manner.
11:32 <RazorSharpFang> Had my first attack.
11:38 <Cepheid> How'd it go?
11:38 <RazorSharpFang> A couple electric poles destroyed. I put a gun-turret where the attack came from.
11:38 <RazorSharpFang> The AI is... very different.
11:39 <RazorSharpFang> It's a lot more organised.
11:40 <Cepheid> Yep. The mod does things like organizing groups, splitting groups, combining, different forms of prioritizing, better handling of walls and common "death zones" and the like.
11:42 <Cepheid> Biggest change beside bug additions are that projectiles no longer home so strafing and moving while fighting spitters is a viable tactic. On the other hand they get a considerable boost to damage. Expect to lose a lot of walls.
11:42 <RazorSharpFang> Tbh, if I was given the game with rampant on, and not told that it was a mod, I'd've thought it's the norm.
11:46 <Cepheid> Heh.
11:46 <RazorSharpFang> Oil processing sure takes a while to research...
11:47 <RazorSharpFang> Got a radar up, but dayum they use a lot of energy.
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11:51 <Cepheid> Careful. They could draw more attacks. Radar pulses can induce attacks to happen.
11:52 <RazorSharpFang> Well, my iron is far enough away that it's not within my detection range; I won't get any heads-up about attacks...
11:52 <Cepheid> Fair enough.
11:53 <RazorSharpFang> I have 5 wall. That's going to offer a lot of protection.
11:53 <Cepheid> Once classes are done for this semester and I finally pick up that cable splitter and rearrange my hardware, I think I might do a rampant, rso, train-world marathon server.
11:54 <RazorSharpFang> It's quiet... too quiet.
11:55 <RazorSharpFang> How far away are the resources on the RSO?
11:56 <Cepheid> I may have to tweak settings a bit for that though. Maybe spawn the players with two turrets and 50 clips of ammo to increase survival a tad.
11:56 <Cepheid> Far enough. But they tend to be much denser and richer.
11:56 <Cepheid> So they last a lot longer for their distance away.
11:56 <Lumindia> Sloppeh
11:57 <Cepheid> Anyway I should try to get some sleep. I need to be awake to get to my exam tonight.
11:58 <RazorSharpFang> Good night.
12:00 <Cepheid> Good luck razor. You may need it.
12:02 <RazorSharpFang> :3
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17:47 <ADragonDreaming> hi
17:47 <ADragonDreaming> I am a meat popsicle
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17:52 <Starlight_Glimmer> See and there I thought you are a dragon. How silly of me :3
17:52 * Starlight_Glimmer would rather not be frozen
17:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> And DuckDuckGo apparently shows ads on other sites. That's a first one for me too
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17:55 <RyuImperator> hi
17:56 <RyuImperator> was he a MeatDragon?
17:58 <RyuImperator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVzaBq4ycWg&t=59
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20:28 * Cepheid awakens.
20:29 <Cepheid> How goes factorio, RazorSharpFang?
20:31 *** Fall is now known as Rarity
20:32 <RazorSharpFang> I've gotten my first laser turrets set up, a few accumulators, a few solar panels.
20:32 <RazorSharpFang> The AI is immersurably better with this mod.
20:33 <RazorSharpFang> I might have to actually use efficiency modules to try and curb pollution and power consumption.
20:38 <Cepheid> Yep. Its great. In the mod settings there is also a feature to add new bugs to the roster. Its off by default but it adds stuff like fire spitters, lightning spitters and such, I think.
20:38 <RazorSharpFang> The oil well's almost running out, so I'll just put speed modules on the pumpjacks.
20:41 <Cepheid> Speed modules and beacon the *yay* out of it all.
20:42 <RazorSharpFang> Beacons are a bit off in the tech-tree.
20:42 <RazorSharpFang> Yep, they require high-tech science packs.
20:52 <RazorSharpFang> I haven't found any resources outside of my base yet though... what sort of increased distance are they at?
20:54 <Cepheid> You need a car distances. Anyways I need to run. Need to get ready so I can leave to catch my exam at 7.
20:54 <RazorSharpFang> Best of luck.
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21:30 <Cepheid> On my way to school.
21:31 <RazorSharpFang> Oil production's really slowing... starting to make the refinery stall.
21:44 <Cepheid> There is one downside to RSO with oil. Oil is sparse as all hell. I once spent an entire day finding more oil. On the upside it was rich.
21:45 <Cepheid> Not as rich as that 30-well 5,000% yield site I found in my lazy game.
21:45 <Cepheid> But still rich.
21:47 <RazorSharpFang> Well, at least oil is infinite.
21:48 <Cepheid> Indeed.
21:49 <RazorSharpFang> Pumpjack with 2x Speed3 surrounded by 8 beacons each with 2xSpeed3.
21:54 <RazorSharpFang> Dit a bit of driving around in my car. Found a 10M copper ore deposit, and a few spread-out oil wells.
21:54 <Cepheid> Drains power like hell. Pollutes worse than the annual farting competition.
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21:59 <Cepheid> ... o...kay. Some guy just accused me of calling him an asshole.
22:00 <Rarity> What an asshole
22:01 <RazorSharpFang> Really makes you think.
22:01 <Cepheid> It was really weird because the way he accusee me sounded like he was gonna hit me over it.
22:04 <RazorSharpFang> How strange.
22:06 <Cepheid> I immediately backed away afterwards. I may want someone to pick a fight with me, but not at a bus station. Not with recent events. Someone has been going around and accosting and/or assaulting people at bus stations in the city lately.
22:07 <RazorSharpFang> Coincidental?
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22:08 <Cepheid> Probably.
22:08 <RazorSharpFang> I swear the AI can tell when I'm constructing.
22:08 <Cepheid> Heh.
22:09 <RazorSharpFang> I wonder if it would be worth to use fluid wagons for the crude oil.
22:10 <Cepheid> I generally process it back at a main base. So I'd say yes. But it is up to you really.
22:10 <RazorSharpFang> Well, in the previous game I just had a continent-long pipeline.
22:11 <Cepheid> Hum. I wonder how many rails it would take to lay out a straight track 300 kilometers long.
22:12 <RazorSharpFang> Sounds like a maths question
22:13 <Cepheid> One tile is one square meter. So...
22:14 <Cepheid> So each rail then is 2 meters long.
22:14 <Cepheid> 150000 rails.
22:15 <Rarity> Wrong. 300000 rails
22:16 <Rarity> Train tracks have two rail lines
22:16 <FruitNibbler> And an occasional bypass wherever you have a station
22:17 <Cepheid> I mean "rail" as in a factorio item. The final product you place.
22:17 <Cepheid> And i am talking a single, straight line. No stops.
22:18 <RazorSharpFang> Making myself some modular armor. Time to get night vision.
22:20 <FruitNibbler> https://l7.alamy.com/zooms/d5a566b9680042a19ab0cf4f6d5983aa/rail-contractors-lowering-a-section-of-prefabricated-track-with-rails-b8j3p4.jpg
22:20 <FruitNibbler> As in this "rail"?
22:20 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, like that.
22:21 <RazorSharpFang> prefabs lol
22:21 <Cepheid> If we assume a return line then yeah. 300000 rail items. But i am only considering a one way trip. If we assume stops along the way, then we can add maybe 10% of the total to account for side stations along the way.
22:21 <FruitNibbler> Today it's prefab only
22:21 <Cepheid> But yeah. Factorio uses prefab rail sections.
22:21 <FruitNibbler> Placing those concrete blosck to attach rails later is too inconsistent method for high-speed trains
22:22 <Cepheid> They are 2x2 tiles in size. Shorter than that. Wider. They cover 2 square meters. Trains are wide in the game world i guess.
22:22 <FruitNibbler> Prefabs can be tuned right away and behave as a block
22:23 <FruitNibbler> There are tracks that are 2m rail-to-rail
22:24 <Cepheid> They also travel up to 293km/hr with the right fuel. Apparently locomotives in factorio are universal. They can use coal or nuclear fuel.
22:24 <Nuclear> LOL
22:24 <FruitNibbler> Or 1,8m and subsequently 2m with the slabs that hold it too
22:24 <Cepheid> Anyways i am at school. Exam is in 30 minutes. Im just gonna go dark now. Back at 9 pm or so.
22:25 <Nuclear> Check how much this costs: https://i.imgur.com/J6A3O8U.jpg https://imgur.com/XXsQi0I
22:25 <RazorSharpFang> Ctas
22:25 <Nuclear> Can you believe this?
22:25 <RazorSharpFang> 350 dollars a month, eh? American Health Insurance I presume.
22:25 <FruitNibbler> Cepheid, if your tracks are this wide, then you are located in India or southmost South America
22:25 <FruitNibbler> They are using 2m or 6-7inch tracks
22:26 <Cepheid> ... again i am talking about a game.
22:26 <Nuclear> That's just the main plan, RazorSharpFang.
22:26 <FruitNibbler> Just a deductive reasoning
22:26 <Nuclear> You need the rest too to be "fully covered."
22:26 <FruitNibbler> I know you are talking about a game
22:26 <Cepheid> Why do you make it sound like i am talking about the real world?
22:26 <FruitNibbler> I don't
22:27 <FruitNibbler> I just ponder where it would be IRL
22:28 <FruitNibbler> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Mixed_gauge_track_Didcot.JPG
22:28 <FruitNibbler> Apparently that's a thing
22:28 <RazorSharpFang> mmm.
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22:36 <Cepheid> Too many people on campus.
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22:37 <RazorSharpFang> It can be packed sometimes.
22:37 <Cepheid> Toooooo many people on campus.
22:39 <RazorSharpFang> Are you struggling to find a park?
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22:40 <Cepheid> What would the benefit be of wide rails?
22:40 <RazorSharpFang> You can have wider trains. :3
22:41 <RazorSharpFang> (Or, they're less liable to fall over?)
22:41 <Cepheid> And no. Just not used to buildings being this packed. Also i can't drive.
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22:42 <RazorSharpFang> Well, driving is useful, sometimes. And yeah, I don't like crouds either.
22:43 <Cepheid> I am aware. But i can't drive and i don't have my license. Also i don't want to drive as i am stressed enough as is over everyday things.
22:44 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, you can put it off until you really need it, but it takes a while to actually get it, at least where I live.
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23:52 <Cepheid> Well that went about as well as expected. Bombed terribly.
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23:53 <Cepheid> That said even with the expectation of failing, my brain is throwing an internap fit.
23:54 <Cepheid> Internal*
23:54 <Mudwise> oh?
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23:56 <Cepheid> I screwed up bigtime this semester. Part mental health, part laziness and part stupidity. I assumed I'd be fine taking second-year calculus because i took it before. Turns out 9 years in between when i last took it and now is a tad too long.
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