00:00 * Schism passes some deep-fried baby octopus!
00:00 * Filly_Nightmares absorps it into her floof and berps at Schism!
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00:04 <Cepheid> ...? A quest that's not initially available? ... That can only mean one thing.
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00:05 <Schism> Superboss time.
00:05 <Schism> At least, that's what I assume.
00:06 <Cepheid> Yeah. Though I need to do more for the quest to appear or something. That, or go in and return again.
00:06 <Cepheid> Make it to the next floor, I guess.
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00:09 <Cepheid> Yeah, the encounter rate here is much reduced.
00:10 <Cepheid> The first foe is a giant... blue birb.
00:18 <Cepheid> The low encounter rate makes it feel like the monsters are terrified of me.
00:19 <Cepheid> Also, unintentionally, the design I gave Ali makes her look like the Xenoblade 2 version of T-elos. XD
00:19 * Ali squeaks
00:24 <Cepheid> Hmm. These FOEs are mobile, and they only aggro if I'm on aligned with them on an axis.
00:30 <Cepheid> Hmm. Mirina, the tavern keep, is asking me to look for a hidden spot on the western edge of floor 19.
00:31 <Cepheid> The other guy is just an entomologist and wants me to check up on some ants for him.
00:34 <ADragonDreaming> WAit
00:34 <ADragonDreaming> so you fought Twitter?
00:35 <Cepheid> Apparently. It acted like a pufferfish. Every second turn, it'd puff up some spines and if attacked, would unleash 'em.
00:35 <Cepheid> It's even got the aggressiveness of Twitter. o3o
00:38 <Cepheid> Wait. How did I miss that hidden passage?
00:38 <ADragonDreaming> By not seeing it.
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00:40 <Cepheid> It's a visible one, though. Can't use it. Leads to somewhere apparently unquestionably dangerous.
00:41 <Cepheid> According to the story, a bunch of guilds were sent to the area beyond it, somehow(Even she's questioning it, as the passage is blocked by unbelievably hard crystals), and they encountered something there that left them so destroyed that it's a miracle they're even alive and sane.
00:44 <Cepheid> I am gonna max out Explosion next, just because ADragonDreaming insists explosions solve everything. Let's find out if they do.
00:46 <Cepheid> Oh my gods. The entomologist even tells us the bread is unfit for human consumption. The ants won't eat the spicy bread, and the guild even acknowledges no living being would ever eat it, because it looks blood red. And yet..
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00:46 <Cepheid> The game still asks if I want to nibble on it. Uh. No.
00:46 <ADragonDreaming> Save first.
00:46 <ADragonDreaming> Then do it.
00:46 <Cepheid> Too late.
00:46 <Cepheid> I'll look up what it does.
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00:46 <Ali> Kills the party, who would've thunk it
00:47 <Cepheid> Apparently, it just causes horrible agony.
00:47 <Cepheid> But ye know what? I got multiple save slots. *Saves game in new slot, loads old slot.*
00:49 <Cepheid> Like, the ant took a bite and started thrashing around in agony. Why would we even think it's safe to consume this?
00:49 <Cepheid> Let's eat it. And it asks us if we want to share it. Let's do so.
00:50 <Cepheid> We all eat a piece. We start sweating uncontrollably, our eyes begin to water, we all start flailing cartoonishly, and then take 100 HP and 70 TP damage.
00:51 <Cepheid> Let's see what happens when just one person eats it.
00:51 <Cepheid> Since Dreamer insisted on saving and doing it, he gets to be the test subject.
00:52 <Cepheid> "Dreamer's eyes seem to ask, "Why did you make me eat this!?" But it's too late to turn back now."
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00:59 <Cepheid> Right then. Onwards, to death and glory!
01:03 <Cepheid> This place really does have an incredibly low encounter rate. If I want to grind any of this stuff, I'll definitely have to use New Challenger.
01:05 * Ali uses Factorio on Cepheid. Its Not Very Effective...
01:05 <Cepheid> Sorry. I have a habit of when I get into a game like this that I absolutely, positively MUST FINISH IT before I do anything else.
01:05 <Ali> Its fine
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01:26 * Cepheid watches Cepheid take five hits to the face to the tune of 80 damage. She's left with 5 HP.
01:26 <Ali> Time to heal!
01:26 * Cepheid imagines Cepheid just standing there, going "That all you got?" and she's just bleeding, covered in black-and-blue bruises, and has a bone sticking out somewhere.
01:28 <Cepheid> Dagnabbit finally. Took three tries, but I got that FOE's rare drop.
01:29 <Cepheid> Here I was expecting it to be useless. This'll be useful for later on. Status Ailment Resist+++.
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01:32 <ADragonDreaming> Hmmmm...
01:32 <ADragonDreaming> should I declare war on the Fiersdvain and aid in ushering them out of the game...
01:33 <Cepheid> Explosions or something like that.
01:33 <ADragonDreaming> or should I take on the D'Shar, who are somewhat of powerhouses, but are also at war with the Fierdsvain and the Baccus Empire, and winning.
01:34 <Cepheid> If and when I get started on my game, if I opt to make "attack items" available, they are either going to have limited charges with specific damage, or they are going to scale in damage with level, to make them more effective.
01:35 <Cepheid> Perhaps make them scale in level and whatever associated stat the original spell uses.
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01:43 <Cepheid> Man, this map design... takes me back. It seems like they looked at the first two games for inspiration. They actually feel like mazes.
01:45 <Cepheid> But, either I'm not mapping this place very well, I'm blind, or this place is screwing with me.
01:48 <Cepheid> That trap makes me wonder... I haven't seen any pitfalls, yet. Where be they?
01:50 <Schism> Adra: I'd help the Fired and the Bacon, to be sure.
01:50 <Schism> At least, if you're going for an alliance victory.
01:50 <Cepheid> So far I think he's going for conquest.
01:50 <Cepheid> It's mostly been conquest, from what I've seen.
01:52 <Cepheid> ...
01:52 <Cepheid> So, if this is any indication, that area I explored in the first stratum had Stratum 5 monsters in it.
01:54 <ADragonDreaming> There is no alliance victory.
01:54 <ADragonDreaming> Victory condition: One kingdom rules everything.
01:55 <ADragonDreaming> The Elves like you
01:55 <ADragonDreaming> no hostile armies exist
01:55 <ADragonDreaming> all the hateful factions are obliterated
01:56 <Cepheid> I'll be honest. The lower encounter rate creeps me out. The "final" stratum is usually one of the hardest. Then again, I did powerlevel.
01:57 <Cepheid> ... Antigravity machines.
01:58 <Schism> Some FOEs are on the ceiling!
01:58 <Schism> Game over, man, game over!
01:59 <Cepheid> At this point I wouldn't be surprised.
02:00 <Cepheid> I'd say something about nuking it from orbit, but that kind of requires the thing we nuke be on the ground. We *ARE* in orbit.
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02:02 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
02:02 <Cepheid> Morning.
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02:18 <Cepheid> Final FOE. Some beast that punches other FOEs and myself around.
02:21 * Schism looks at a Twitter feed, thinks, "What a stunning display of malcompetence." Then he realizes that's not a word. Quite.
02:21 * Ali gives Schism some tea
02:21 * Schism is unfortunately going to decline - is sipping strong coffee!
02:27 * Saerydoth gets ready to learn ghetto jumping and secret worlds in Prime 2...well not tonight though since it's bedtime :P
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02:30 <Cepheid> 70000 ental for a quest. A reunion quest, and a standard "find this" quest. The first two sound of interest.
02:31 <Cepheid> ...
02:31 <Cepheid> Really Atlus? "Ghai the Fiery"
02:32 <Cepheid> And he's a gourmand, goes around and eats food everywhere.
02:36 <Cepheid> Reached floor 24. Would love to go through it, but Floor 23 has an area unmapped. This cannot remain so.
02:40 <Ali> Just how many 'floors' are there?
02:41 <Cepheid> Usual number is 30. 25 for the main storyline, 5 for post=game storyline.
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02:43 <Cepheid> It's actually a slight bit more than that, truth told. Earlier floors are used in post-game stuff, usually hiding required bosses.
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02:55 <Schism> Cepheid: ... I want to blame the localization team. You know they do that all the time.
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02:56 <Cepheid> Yes.
02:56 <Schism> In this case, though, they most assuredly did not lo-Cal-ize the name.
02:57 <Schism> (You can probably blame Firehawke for some of the puns I spout.)
03:01 <Cepheid> Heh. :P
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03:05 * Schism blinks! "Aha! Like a pebble in my shoe, I'd been searching for a 16GB MicroSD card I had for some time. It was inside a USB adapter, that much I knew. Finally found it, sitting under a keyboard."
03:07 <Cepheid> ... There is a long, drawn-out puzzle involving the antigrav machines.
03:07 <Schism> Finding the right path through everything, and triggering things in the right order?
03:07 <Cepheid> You can get all the way down to the first floor of stratum 5.
03:08 <Cepheid> Using the antigrav machines.
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03:08 <Cepheid> Which raises the question: "Why?"
03:08 <Thelema5> I'm hungry. Only had a salad in the past 28 hours
03:09 <Thelema5> I wonder if I still have any beef jerky?
03:09 * Schism whurfs, and offers Thelema5 some French toast with black cherry jam.
03:09 *** Changeling_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
03:09 <Thelema5> Thanksie!
03:09 * Schism offers the Filly_Nightmares some too, but with powdered sugar and maple syrup.
03:09 * Filly_Nightmares uses Schism as a bed and noms food!
03:09 <Schism> Really, French toast is easy to make; why not do up a midnight snack?
03:11 <Thelema5> Don't want to wake up my SO
03:11 * Filly_Nightmares wuvs Schism! Is gud bedling!
03:11 <Schism> Ah. Just a peanut butter and jam sammich?
03:11 * Schism provides Filly_Nightmares with pats, and wraps blankets around the floof.
03:12 <Thelema5> Maybe. The kitchen is right next to the bedroom and she sleeps with the door open, so any light or noise might be a problem. She has a hard time sleeping through the night
03:13 <Schism> Ahh. :<
03:13 <Thelema5> I have some leftover chinese chicken with black bean sauce which would be amazing right now though
03:13 <Schism> And it's a truism that the more quietly you try to move, the more noise you make.
03:13 <Thelema5> Yes, for sure
03:21 <PinkieShy> mip
03:21 <Schism> moop
03:22 * PinkieShy jumps into Thelema5 beard and builds a fort.
03:22 <Schism> [ The storm will close in in: 60 seconds! ]
03:28 <Thelema5> Yay, I retreived some beef jerky from the kitchen without any problems
03:29 <Thelema5> The downside to this is that I'm considering cutting mammals out of my diet
03:29 <Schism> Achievement unlocked: Ghost!
03:29 <Schism> But hmm, perhaps an option.
03:30 <Thelema5> I don't know it turkey jerky is any good
03:30 <Thelema5> *if
03:32 * Filly_Nightmares noms Schism for food
03:32 * Schism keeps Filly_Nightmares away from the pineapple pudding. It's probably no longer good...
03:32 * Filly_Nightmares has rumble tummy
03:33 * Schism instead provides Filly_Nightmares with some raspberry orange jello! It wiggles, like floof.
03:33 * Filly_Nightmares ripples wif the jello!
03:34 * Cepheid is getting twitchy and a tad tired. Is approaching the end, found the stairs up to floor 25.
03:38 <Cepheid> Floor 25. Titled: "The Genesis of Darkness"
03:39 <Cepheid> ... Hansuke, the informant who's been giving me hints to getting rare drops, has a story. "Mantis Princess." is the subject.
03:42 <Cepheid> I think it's safe to say I won't be on FF14 tonight Schism. Tomorrow, definitely. Once I kill the final boss of the storyline, I'll be content enough to do other things.
03:44 <Thelema5> Recent research published suggests that cows and pigs are capable of complex social dynamics and that they experience fear and dread before slaughter. I'm not sure i can continue eating them with a clear conscience in this light. I'm leaning towards a non-mammal diet, eating only living things with vastly different brains and experiences
03:45 <Thelema5> *mammial
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03:45 <Schism> Fair nuff, Cephy. XD
03:45 * Filly_Nightmares noms all of Thelema5's bacon
03:45 <Thelema5> Bacon is delicious, but I'm not sure I can justify the cost
03:46 <Schism> Thelema5: Well, there is always turkey bacon.
03:46 <Thelema5> I had turkey pepperopni with my salad tonight, yep.
03:47 <Thelema5> *pepperoni
03:47 <Schism> And of course, chocobo is a delicacy.
03:47 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 i got a good bit of free samples coming my way :)
03:47 <Thelema5> Oh? Like what?
03:47 <PinkieShy> Rachel ray zero grain for my dogs (Sample), Splenda, and more.
03:48 <PinkieShy> the Splenda being Splenda Naturals.
03:48 <Thelema5> Dogs should be fed a diet of carnivore proteins
03:48 <Thelema5> Meat, meat, and more meat
03:49 <PinkieShy> I've been giving them kibbles and bits.
03:49 <Schism> Lotta filler there.
03:49 <PinkieShy> I'm sure they'll love the zero grain sample :P
03:49 <PinkieShy> Its only like what $30 a bag for it. that's not to bad.
03:49 <Thelema5> Grains are used by the industry to sell cheap plant proteins
03:50 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 the sample i choose for them is turkey and potato.
03:51 <Thelema5> Turkey is good, but relying too much on vegetable proteins can result in muscle atrophy- according to my employeer
03:52 <Thelema5> My own cat has diabetes... we feed him some very expensive prescription food... but his glucose levels are still off the hook
03:53 <Thelema5> My employeer suggests switching him to a 100% meat-based protein source
03:53 <Thelema5> Says it will cure him
03:54 <Thelema5> I have not tried it yet.
03:54 <Schism> That's... an interesting suggestion.
03:54 <Schism> First off, I hope that your employer doesn't mean 'it'll cure his diabetes'.
03:56 <Thelema5> Schism, here's his take on it... with input from 3 pet experts https://www.villagevitality.com/blogs/rant/natural-pet-nutrition-supplements'
03:56 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 Check MSGs please.
03:57 <Thelema5> I don't know what to think.
03:59 <Pony_61055> is there a secondary source to back this up?
04:00 <Cepheid> I can see the doorway to the boss room, but I can't get to it. It's past a bunch of slippery-slidey gravity-wavity stuff.
04:02 <Thelema5> Pony_61055, lots of sources listed in te content I think
04:08 <Pony_61055> Oh wait, I DC'd? xD
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04:08 <Ali> PFt
04:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o SunsetShimmer
04:08 * Ali boops SunsetShimmer
04:08 * SunsetShimmer squeaks
04:10 <Cepheid> Schism: Words cannot describe the frustration of this floor.
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04:11 <Schism> I can describe some frustration. Right now I'm trying to fish up a certain type.
04:12 <Schism> Yanxian Koi are annoying.
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04:13 <Schism> At least with your stuff, you don't have to rely too heavily on the RNG...
04:13 <Cepheid> Ice-like flying everywhere, with FOEs moving the same way interspersed EVERYWHERE.
04:14 <PinkieShy> So finally got to use my coupon at food lion.
04:15 <PinkieShy> The one for free canada dry ginger ale + lemonade.
04:15 <PinkieShy> They had it on sell for $.99 it didn't show the coupon right away but it took off the $.99 :)
04:16 <PinkieShy> It taste amazing even tho its more ginger ale than lemonade.. only like 1% of it is lemon.
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04:24 <Cepheid> Oh sweet heavens terra firma.
04:26 <Cepheid> Much as I hate this floor, I am going to map it out now so I never have to do so EVER. AGAIN.
04:32 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy and Thelema5
04:32 <DashedRainbows> Howdy
04:32 <PinkieShy> Heeeeey :)
04:32 <DashedRainbows> How are you?
04:33 <Cepheid> ....? Schism? There's a yellow FOE icon on my map. Rare mob?
04:33 <PinkieShy> I'm doing great.
04:33 <PinkieShy> hbu?
04:33 <Schism> I have no clue.
04:34 <DashedRainbows> Good just tired
04:34 <DashedRainbows> So much traffic
04:35 * DashedRainbows shivers
04:35 * Cepheid eye twitches at a gameover screen just as he made it to the shortcut.
04:37 * Schism twitches at this fishing hole.
04:37 <Schism> Stop... giving me... barracudas...
04:37 <Ali> /me gives Schism Longjaw Mudsnapper instead
04:38 <Ali> Cursed space bar
04:38 <Cepheid> There! Finally!
04:41 <Cepheid> O...kay then. "Final Boss" time.
04:41 * Schism avoids the WoW reference like the plague. Just like he avoids Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker.
04:42 <Ali> Or Murloc Holmes?
04:42 * Ali shot
04:43 * Ali poofs onto Schism and snugs
04:45 * Schism patpats the Ali.
04:46 <Cepheid> Hmm. This is not going to be an easy battle.
04:47 <Cepheid> Basically, complete every quest available, get the best gear I can possibly buy, grind to level 70.
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04:49 <Cepheid> Maybe look into that multi-floor antigrav puzzle as well.
04:51 * Filly_Nightmares looked at the nsgnsncnonennenbb challenge
04:51 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
04:51 * Filly_Nightmares hides under Cepheid and hugs Schism like a plushie
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04:56 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming, you mind if I respec Dreamer exclusively for killing the final boss? I'll respec him back afterwards.
04:56 * Ali mmmmmggggggrrrrrrlllll to Schism and noms ankle
04:57 <Cepheid> Only asking because it involves reducing firey explosions and increasing icey explosions.
04:57 * Filly_Nightmares floofsplodes
05:04 * Schism mrrls? And provides Ali with some pancakes with strawberry jam and whipped cream.
05:04 * Ali uses it as a pillow cause that's what ponies do!
05:05 <DashedRainbows> Only twilight
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05:10 * Snapai howdyish
05:10 <Ali> Only ish?
05:12 <Snapai> Wellll....I forgot I didn't have hexchat running until HyperDash reminded me on Twitter. Then I launched it....and promptly forgot I did for another 20 minutes :x
05:12 <Snapai> And I'm going to bed in like half an hour or so after I finish this sketch to illustrate something I just learned about art :x
05:12 * Ali nods and hugs the Snapai
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05:13 <Snapai> IRC is slowly going away it seems. People don't actually care about private servers anymore, particularly when they can have private "servers" that are just actually arbitrary accounts on someone else's thing.
05:13 <Snapai> Otherwise everyone would be on RocketChat not Discord <.<
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05:16 <DashedRainbows> That makes me so sad
05:17 <Ali> I'm not fond of Discord to be honest
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05:25 * Filly_Nightmares likes both!
05:26 <Starlight_Glimmer> Snapai: RocketChat doesn't use an open standard
05:26 <Starlight_Glimmer> And to be honest: It kinda sucks
05:27 <Snapai> I like Discord because it's a very very fast easy way to get people in one place for multichannel discussion and voice chat.
05:27 <Starlight_Glimmer> Mobile notofications lag behind, all of the ... uh ... 3 apps they have right now? Yeah they all suck
05:27 <Snapai> It's much more accessible to others than Mumble was
05:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> Its voice quality is quite often poor, the bit rate is all over the place (related), permission management is lacking ...
05:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> People use it because you don't need to know anything to run your own "server"
05:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> SaaS is the web's downfall :P
05:30 <Ali> SaaS?
05:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> Software as a Service
05:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> The last 4 lines reference Discord if that wasn't obvious ;)
05:32 <Starlight_Glimmer> SaaS is an IT term people use when they try to avoid "cloud" buzzword nonsense
05:33 <Cepheid> It's because of SaaS, that IRC will remain in some capacity.
05:33 <Starlight_Glimmer> Basically you pay for access to software running on someone else's hardware
05:35 <DashedRainbows> Discord dos excel in the most important aspect imo: people
05:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> Meh
05:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> It's free
05:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> Kids like free
05:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> And not needing any technical skill whatsoever helps
05:36 <Snapai> Not just kids
05:36 <Snapai> And it's ease of access
05:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> See I'm all against putting people in a bucket, but I like to call it the "IPhone" generation
05:36 <Snapai> Discord you click one link and you're in, whether you have an account or not, the account setup is largely secondary to joining
05:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> You give up so much though
05:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> and most importantly: Their business model isn't profitable
05:37 <Snapai> Compare that to Jabber which was too complicated for ANYONE - wait you mean I have to pick a server to create an account on? That's too much work why can't I just click something and have an account
05:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> Which is a big red warning
05:37 <Cepheid> It's unfortunate, because sometimes the more complicated stuff tends to function better overall.
05:38 <Cepheid> People's desire for ease is ruining a lot of stuff.
05:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> And their refusal to pay for anything
05:38 <Cepheid> That's always been a problem though.
05:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> Not even excluding myself from that
05:39 <Snapai> Wordpress offers both, which seems to be a decent way to handle it.
05:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> You mean their business model?
05:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> The problem is it doesn't scale well
05:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> And companies generally want all of your money ;)
05:40 <Snapai> The whole "We're going to make this open source software and offer a host for it if that's too much work for it AND offer a premium/business service version to pay for everything
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05:42 <Ali> That sounded like Skype
05:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> Skype isn't open source though
05:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> And: Skype has many issues itself
05:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> Many of which could be easily avoided
05:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> When I listen to podcasts recorded via Skype I keep asking myself why the heck people even use it
05:43 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, the developers kind of need to make money, hence the premium/business service, Snapai. It'd be like me asking you to do artwork for me for free because exposure, otherwise.
05:43 <Snapai> I wasn't complaining about it?
05:43 <Snapai> I like that business model.
05:43 <Cepheid> Ah, I misinterpreted.
05:44 <Snapai> Loomio is the same - here's premium options for businesses for pay, free accounts for any group that needs it, or you can download and host your own. Anyone could host or fork it, but we hope you'll continue to give us your business as good stewards of the software.
05:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> GitLab is pretty successful
05:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> I like what they offer as well
05:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> But it wouldn't work for many business areas
05:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> Most example you mention target professionals or businesse
05:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> s
05:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> Consumers are a different kind of customer that requires a different kind of strategy
05:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> The adaptation of that model would be the micro transaction stuff we see today
05:47 <Starlight_Glimmer> Free and premium tiers. There is a need for small transactions, because consumers are more susceptible to entry barriers.
05:47 <Starlight_Glimmer> And in many ways it's the worst model we have so far
05:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> Exploiting a minority and grinding down the endurance of everyone else
05:48 <Cepheid> I could make an argument against microtransactions, but I'm too tired for it right now. It mostly involves the fact that there are two groups of people. Those who like microtransactions to feel powerful or special, and those who don't want microtransactions for power. Best approach then is to add microtransactions for uniqueness. See: Path of Exile.
05:49 <Starlight_Glimmer> Nuh. The proper way is to just sell a complete product in the first place. Charge what it's worth
05:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> Because im not spending >2k USD for the contents of a single minor update in micro transactions.
05:51 <Cepheid> Fair enough.
05:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> And I'm very sorry for the people who do.
05:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> Honestly
05:51 <Cepheid> Sell a complete product. Any microtransactions afterwards would be purely cosmetic stuff, which is pretty much what Path of Exile does.
05:51 <Cepheid> People have paid $300+ to have their name in that game, and some hand in the content too.
05:52 <Starlight_Glimmer> I can see why people like are O.K. with cosmetics and I tend to favor them. The problem is that you shouldn't make the argument that because they're just cosmetics they don't affect the gameplay
05:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> If that argument would hold up people wouldn't wear branded items
05:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> And playing dress up is for many people part of the game
05:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm generally O.K. with cosmetics if their revenue is clearly used to keep supporting the game and their prices are fair
05:54 * Cepheid shrugs. "I don't see gameplay value in looking a certain way. But then, I'm not a follower of fashion, etc."
05:54 <Starlight_Glimmer> Neither am I
05:54 <DashedRainbows> I'm going to bed. Night everypony
05:55 <Starlight_Glimmer> But I do love killing annoying people while dressed up as a ridiculous unicorn and running them over with a pink car in GTA because I can
05:55 <Starlight_Glimmer> Good night DashedRainbows
05:57 <Starlight_Glimmer> Provokes the most amusing homophobic slurs and I can laugh my butt off knowing I'm actually hetero while enjoying watching them rage
06:06 * Starwatcher mrr's softly
06:06 <Starwatcher> hia
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06:10 <Cepheid> Time for me to go to sleep.
06:12 <Schism> Perhaps a good plan soon. I just have a few things I'm clearing before I do the same.
06:12 <RazorSharpFang> Goodnight Cepheid
06:14 <RazorSharpFang> I think my internet is slow today
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06:26 <Cepheid> Oh. By the way Schism? Giant world tree is sealing ancient, primordial evil.
06:26 <Schism> What a shock.
06:27 <RazorSharpFang> I always wondered why they didn't just kill the evil instead of sealing it. But even today, we have a floppy disc in a museum containing the first worm/virus. So maybe that's just how we are.
06:28 <Cepheid> In this case the evil was created as a direct consequence of restoring a barren, dead world and giving it life.
06:29 <Schism> RSF: Yeah, and there's a smallpox vial in the arctic.
06:30 <Cepheid> And in fact, was even predicted. Myths were written by that Mysterious Girl with the intent of drawing inhabitants of the world to the tree, with the goal of getting them to climb it and kill the evil. Why they didn't destroy it from the get go, who knows?
06:31 <Ali> Cause it wasn't in the script
06:31 <Cepheid> In any case the seal isn't permanent based on wording. It was going to fail eventually and the sealed creature would bring ruin.
06:33 <Cepheid> My only guess is that the restoration process consumed too much energy to a point where simply destroying the resultant creature was not possible. I will have to wait and see until after I crush it into a fine red paste.
06:33 <RazorSharpFang> These are very common themes.
06:33 <RazorSharpFang> I wonder why they're like this.
06:34 <Cepheid> Mmhmm. The series has run out of ideas really. Sort of. The initial idea for the first game was interesting. Too bad it was retconned.
06:35 <Snapai> https://twitter.com/Snapai/status/991204210132779008
06:36 <Cepheid> In that game, the tree was created by humans as a response to overpollution/climate change. While the main storyline covered this revelation, post-game covered the ramifications.
06:36 <Schism> Criminy...
06:36 * Schism also huzzahs to the bookdrgn.
06:37 <Schism> Hmmm. Yes, silhouettes are vital...
06:37 <Cepheid> The tree effectively did its job. But in the process a horrible creature borne of the collected pollution was created. Primevil/Yggdrasil Core. The tree in effect became a seal.
06:37 <Snapai> Schism, not as vital as I thought
06:37 <Snapai> They were screwing up my art
06:37 <Schism> But yeah, overlap is definitely for drawing. o4o
06:38 <Schism> There is that sense of perspective there, without a doubt.
06:38 <RazorSharpFang> There's a whole bunch of themes that just seem to get reused over and over.
06:38 <RazorSharpFang> Like fighting with your shadow or dark-form.
06:38 <Snapai> Granted if I did overlap without the perspective it would just be a mess, but eh
06:38 <Cepheid> In any case while the theme is pretty straightforward here, I suspect there is more to it. Usually is.
06:39 <Cepheid> Sixth stratum and all that. Things beyond the power of the greatest evil.
06:40 <Ali> Cepheid, why is it I put my newest world on passive/no evo/no expand and the bugs are EVERYWHERE
06:40 <Cepheid> It'll be a recurrence of the usual pattern. Defeat the final boss, three elemental dragons appear, and the path to the dark secret of space shall be revealed.
06:41 <Cepheid> And Ali, I have no idea. Outright disabling the bugs isn't possible outside of a mod. I have no idea why.
06:41 <Schism> At least with evolution turned off, you don't have to worry about them too much. Just steamroll 'em once you get basic armour and maybe a car.
06:42 <Ali> Ok, that just happened
06:42 <Ali> I'm on peaceful and I haven't attacked them
06:42 <Ali> And 3 bugs just ran in and started attacking my base.
06:42 <Schism> Ah, yeah... hmm...
06:42 <Cepheid> Yeah. Peaceful mode is broken. Did you approach or attack them in any way?
06:43 <Ali> Nope
06:43 <Cepheid> Any radars?
06:43 <Ali> Radars yes
06:43 <Ali> Do they count as aggro?
06:43 <Schism> Those qualify as military items, yeah.
06:43 <Cepheid> That's what I am wondering.
06:43 <Ali> But they're not attacking them that close to like 20 other bases
06:43 <Cepheid> If their radar pulse counts as an aggressive action.
06:44 <Ali> I made a spot out by an oil field of 2 radar and 15 panels
06:44 <Ali> And they're in range of like 15 bases
06:44 <Ali> NOne of them give a crap about them
06:44 <Cepheid> Let's see then...
06:44 <Ali> But these 3 bugs are like FUCK PEACEFUL KILL
06:45 * Schism gasps at the pottymouth.
06:45 <Cepheid> Hmm.
06:45 <Cepheid> One theory is that it is an expansion group of bugs that gets too close to something and attacks.
06:46 <Schism> You can always set the frequency of enemy bases at "None".
06:47 <Schism> Or, wait. Size, not frequency.
06:48 <Ali> Err sorry
06:48 <Cepheid> No one has any real idea but some people have noticed that expansions will always happen. Just reduced sizes or frequency. And that when an expansion point is chosen, attacks will happen if there is anything in the way.
06:49 <Cepheid> Otherwise, the only explanation is "it's bugged."
06:49 <RazorSharpFang> Ha, good one.
06:50 <Cepheid> Okay. I need a shower before bed.
06:52 <Ali> Huh
06:52 <Ali> I found a better way than peacful if you don't want them at all
06:52 <Ali> There's an option for bases
06:52 <Ali> It can be set to none
06:53 <Ali> On the preview generation it doesn't draw a single base
06:53 <Schism> They'll still spawn if it's not set to peaceful.
06:53 <RazorSharpFang> And then you start the game and then it's just bases everywhere.
06:54 <Ali> How will they spawn?
06:54 <Schism> I'm pretty sure they automatically spawn at the edges of pollution.
06:54 <RazorSharpFang> New bases?? Surely not.
06:54 <RazorSharpFang> Rather when new chunks are generated, maybe some bases might spawn.
06:55 <Schism> Er? No, I'm talking about random biters.
06:55 <RazorSharpFang> Random biters? I haven't seen or heard about that.
06:56 <Schism> I must have imagined things, then.
06:57 <RazorSharpFang> Usually it's a (new) base on the edge of pollution that your radar hasn't revealed to you yet that causes a sporadic attack
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06:59 <RazorSharpFang> Usually it's a sector that's flickering with pollution but doesn't have trees in it that's an indicator of a base, especially if there's a dip/hole in the pollution compared to the neighboring chunks.
07:03 <Cepheid> Bases use pollution to generate new units.
07:04 <Cepheid> And sometimes a base will generate a swarm of units and dispatch them to a site. They then die off and a new base pops up in their place.
07:05 <Ali> But if there's no bases on the map
07:07 <Cepheid> It is a bit more complicated then. Much of the simulation of the bugs is abstracted away outside of the active playing area of the game.
07:08 <Cepheid> Rather than individual units, the game works with points that represent bases or groups of a set size instead. This makes it easier to handle say, thousands of bases in that black inky void.
07:09 <Cepheid> My brain is now trying to analyze how it would be implemented. Hells and brimstone.
07:13 <Schism> One pump handles... 10 or 20 boilers?
07:13 * Ali sorries to Cepheid
07:13 <Cepheid> 20
07:13 <Cepheid> No apology necessary. This is a common problem with my brain.
07:14 <Cepheid> Truth told I analyze every game I play.
07:15 * Schism nods to himself, creating 20 boilers and 40 steam engines, because that is how he rolls.
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07:16 <RazorSharpFang> Steam all the way
07:17 <Cepheid> I've even been analysing Etrian Odyssey as I play it. Implementation details, how the in game map drawing system is implemented, rendering of the world, etc, etc, etc.
07:18 <RazorSharpFang> Well, by analysing how otheres solve problems, you might get better at problem solving
07:18 <Cepheid> That is the usual result yes.
07:19 <Ali> and now Schism you'll be polluting so bad you'll pull a ton o bugs
07:19 <Schism> Well, they're not all going to be on at once.
07:19 <Cepheid> If he runs them all at once sure.
07:19 <Cepheid> But if you only set up one inserter...
07:20 <RazorSharpFang> I have 16 boilers myself, and they're always on.
07:20 <RazorSharpFang> They're just all running at like, 20% capacity.
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07:21 <Cepheid> There is that too. Once the boilers fill the engines, they will only produce steam as necessary. Which is based on usage.
07:21 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:22 <ConfusionRift> I'm super depressed. :D
07:22 * ConfusionRift smiles away.
07:22 <Ali> That's condradictory ConfusionRift
07:22 * Ali noms ears of ConfusionRift
07:23 <Cepheid> Take some drugs. Do some yoga. Hug a cat. Lastly, control your breathing.
07:23 * ConfusionRift continues to smile, with a very slight twitch on one eye.
07:23 <ConfusionRift> To be honest, I kinda am, but I'm holding up.
07:24 <ConfusionRift> I'm just gonna summarize it with one word: WORK.
07:24 * Schism hugs the ConfusionRift. Provides a cup of soothing tea. o.o
07:24 <Cepheid> Also, I can't say or do much cause I am exhausted and on a tablet, but also vent a bit.
07:25 * ConfusionRift patpats both Ali and Schism.
07:25 * Ali leans into pets
07:25 <Ali> Retail sucks
07:26 <RazorSharpFang> My iron mine is running out.
07:27 <ConfusionRift> It's just how work is going. They're moving a new store manager with management team, so everyone is abandoning ship. Those who remain don't care about anything, and end up complaining about things they should be watching for themselves. In other words, bleh. I got my butt covered.
07:28 * ConfusionRift point at his super stylish pants.
07:28 <Ali> A DECENT PAIR OF PAAAANNNNTTTT
07:28 <Ali> SSSSSS
07:29 <Cepheid> So here I am walking out of my bathroom. When all of a sudden I see a black blob run by, making a "Mmmmmrrrrr!" Sound.
07:30 <RazorSharpFang> Kitty\
07:30 <Ali> Sounds catish
07:30 <Schism> As Spitfire is wont to be.
07:30 <ConfusionRift> I'll send it to the 8th dimension! (points)
07:31 <ConfusionRift> I can't believe they still make these. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1054/4610/products/NNR_-_Front.jpg?v=1468792008
07:32 <Schism> Creepy pants all the time get some. Maybe parachute? Maybe clown care.
07:33 <Cepheid> And now Spitfire is chewing cables because he is upset with me. Because I wasn't paying enough attention to him.
07:33 <ConfusionRift> Maybe militant, maybe prisoner, or maybe just plain fresh. :P
07:33 <Cepheid> Had to kick him out of the room.
07:33 <ConfusionRift> Poor thing. (cough)
07:36 <RazorSharpFang> Ourgh, I've got a cold right now, and I suck at taking tablets.
07:36 <RazorSharpFang> Takes me a few attempts to get them down
07:36 * Schism places RSF's tablets inside a spoonful of peanut butter.
07:37 <RazorSharpFang> That'd just make me want to crunch it all up.
07:37 * Ali is also immune to that trick
07:38 <Cepheid> Consume tablet, gulp down with water.
07:39 <Cepheid> Not much to it. I do it every day with six pills. All at once.
07:39 * Ali has to take liquid meds
07:39 <Schism> Hmm, game threw me an oil field next to a pond of water. I should probably make use of this.
07:39 * ConfusionRift sighs.
07:40 <ConfusionRift> My single player made gave me some decent iron and copper, but there's like no oil or uranium nearby.
07:40 <Schism> Yeah, gotta run all over for it...
07:41 * Schism is also tempted to install a wide variety of mods. Bobmium's stuff, for example.
07:41 * Ali hopes to play again on a server
07:41 * Ali snuffles on ConfusionRift and Cepheid
07:42 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmmmmm.
07:43 <ConfusionRift> I might jump in a bit. I need something to remove FC4 from my head.
07:43 <Cepheid> The server is actually still running. It runs 24/7.
07:43 <Ali> And I'm sure the bugs evo has gone crazy :P
07:43 <RazorSharpFang> Wouldn't that make the time evolution factor go haywire?
07:43 <Ali> And if the fact that is wasn't 4am and I feel like passing out
07:44 <Cepheid> No. I mean running as in the software is running.
07:44 <Cepheid> The server autopauses when no one is on.
07:44 <Schism> The server is only 'active' when someone's logged in, much like Minecraft's or various other types.
07:44 <RazorSharpFang> Oh that's neat.
07:44 <Cepheid> You can disable that though.
07:44 <Ali> Nothing like coming back after a week and have behemoths munching on your walls
07:45 <Cepheid> Why anyone would want to, hell if I know. It'd all shut down in one nights sleep unless you used the unlimited ores mod.
07:46 <Cepheid> And even then it'd slow down to a crawl as said mod works by implementing infinite ores as in the same manner as oil wells. Yield drops, slowing production.
07:47 <Cepheid> https://mods.factorio.com/mod/angelsinfiniteores
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07:50 <ConfusionRift> I guess not...
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07:52 <Cepheid> I am slowly falling asleep. The body is willing. The mind resists.
07:56 <ConfusionRift> I honestly was going to. I mean, I REALLY want to erase FC4 from my head.
07:56 * Schism blinks at FC4.
07:56 <RazorSharpFang> Power armour yeah.
07:57 <Schism> Oh, FarCry.
07:58 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, I was gonna get the other thangkas, but then I finished the game. Now I don't even want to get the missing two.
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08:01 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm... I'm going to need processing units...
08:01 <RazorSharpFang> They're real annoying to craft.
08:01 * ConfusionRift slowly nods.
08:02 <ConfusionRift> Especially the red and blue ones.
08:02 <RazorSharpFang> Processing units ARE the blue ones. Red ones are advanced circuits.
08:05 <RazorSharpFang> I think I need to redesign literally everything.
08:05 <ConfusionRift> Oooh, right. (pukes oil)
08:05 <RazorSharpFang> You need sulfuric acid for the blue ones.
08:07 <Schism> Hmmm. Quartz, that'll come in handy. Lotta tin nearby too.
08:08 <RazorSharpFang> I never know what the appropriate ratio of iron:steel is. How much of my incoming iron ore should I make into steel?
08:08 <ConfusionRift> Which require sulfur and iron. And sulfur requires petroleum gas and water. And gas needs oil to be refined.
08:08 <RazorSharpFang> Yep. A whole lotta processes.
08:15 <Schism> Processes indeed...
08:16 <Schism> Bob's makes things even more insanely complicated.
08:17 <RazorSharpFang> I'm going to have to redesign flippin everything here... URGH.
08:17 <RazorSharpFang> Maybe a personal roboport would make it easier, but still. UGH.
08:23 <RazorSharpFang> But I can't research the personal roboport since my iron production is too low. Dang it.
08:24 <Schism> One major advantage of Bob's mods? Coal stacks. 200.
08:28 <ConfusionRift> I... I'm gonna start... a new map... bleck.
08:28 <ConfusionRift> Or... let me see if I can get a car running.
08:29 <RazorSharpFang> I still find it hilarious that cars and trains can run on wood.
08:30 <ConfusionRift> Well, they're flammable, and burnt wood is basically charcoal.
08:30 <RazorSharpFang> "Car's out of fuel" "Just chuck some wood in there"
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08:38 <Schism> Grmbl. Gotta have wood to make those circuit boards to start.
08:39 <ConfusionRift> https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/910168071622767912/D8A9AABDED290EC8C5D8384AE21DA7A93D54F73C/
08:39 <RazorSharpFang> akamaihd huh?
08:39 <RazorSharpFang> Check out that pollution radius. Very nice.
08:39 <ConfusionRift> Love the patches of iron and copper, but guuuh!
08:40 <ConfusionRift> Gonna move to solar soon-ish.
08:40 <RazorSharpFang> Do you already have "Steam all the way" achivement?
08:41 <ConfusionRift> Nope.
08:41 <RazorSharpFang> I'm trying to get that one right now. No solar panels at all.
08:41 <Schism> Solar's gonna be an interesting one to pull off with this mod setup.
08:41 <ConfusionRift> I'm sure I was supposed to get the Watch Your Step achievement...
08:42 <RazorSharpFang> Get killed by a moving locomotive.
08:43 <RazorSharpFang> Remember that mod-achivements are separate from vanilla achievements.
08:43 <ConfusionRift> Got ran over on our server.
08:43 <ConfusionRift> And no, it wasn't modded.
08:44 <RazorSharpFang> I finally have construction robots.
08:45 <Schism> It would likely behoove me to get Logistics before I start getting things going.
08:45 <RazorSharpFang> Ah, I'm used to the highest upgrade of robot speed... these robots are so slow!
08:48 <Schism> Okay, so I have tin there, there, and there. Not quite good enough, but fine. Over on this side...
08:48 <RazorSharpFang> Tin? New ores from mods?
08:48 * Schism stares at a multi-million patch of lead. "Well, I know what I'll probably make my pipes out of."
08:48 <Schism> Yeah, Bob's mods. Makes electronics more complex, primarily.
08:52 <RazorSharpFang> The construction robots use more power than my puny portable solar panels can generate...
08:53 <Schism> A wood generator may be my next workable goal. If nothing else, it'll provide me with a spare source of power.
09:01 * ConfusionRift realizes he's storing a lot of regular belts and underground units... decides to forgo it and just dump it all on the lines.
09:06 <Schism> Gonna need to figure out a good setup for this iron. I know it's going to be bottlenecked to hell, but I want the whole patch covered and being turned into ingots.
09:06 <RazorSharpFang> 52% evolution factor hmmm
09:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Totally Legit Recap: "Fake It 'Til You Make It" [ http://tinyurl.com/ybfvsjxr ]
09:08 * Schism decides to take a break, on the grounds that it's currently 5 AM.
09:08 <RazorSharpFang> Shaky ground there
09:09 <Schism> "Game could freeze when system time changed on Windows." Ah, the joys of DST.
09:09 <Schism> ... https://i.redd.it/y780xm7yn0v01.png
09:11 <RazorSharpFang> That's pretty neat.
09:11 <Schism> Yeah. https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/8fz4yy/minimall_the_smallest_of_malls/
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09:15 <ConfusionRift> I... this is a rather smart setup.
09:17 <RazorSharpFang> No idea what the circuits do...
09:38 <RazorSharpFang> I still hate daylight savings time, and even more so as a dev.
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12:59 <RazorSharpFang> I'm finally migrating over to electric furnaces.
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15:10 <Cepheid> Mining.
15:12 * Surreal_Nightmares curls up on Cepheid
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15:13 <RazorSharpFang> Heya Cepheid
15:17 <Cepheid> Morning.
15:17 <Cepheid> Stupid autocorrect.
15:19 <RazorSharpFang> Heya Cepheid. I finally replaced my stone furnaces with electric ones in my steam-only run.
15:19 <Cepheid> Not bad. How's that working out?
15:19 <RazorSharpFang> My 100 steam engines are producing 13MW, and my 25 boilers are blocking out the sun.
15:20 <RazorSharpFang> But... I've run into a problem.
15:20 <RazorSharpFang> The boilers aren't getting enough water through them.
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15:22 <Cepheid> Huh.
15:22 <Cepheid> I would say hook up a pump to the far end of the boiler line.
15:25 <RazorSharpFang> I'm going to have a parallel pipe run with water down it.
15:27 <RazorSharpFang> Because there's not enough water able to flow through it to satisfy all boilers at 100% usage.
15:28 <RazorSharpFang> Turns out a boiler won't funnel water through if it has less than 100 water inside it.
15:28 <Cepheid> Oh. Fun fun.
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15:32 <RazorSharpFang> 94 water in pipe A, 75 water in pipe B. They are directly connected.
15:35 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, in the game I've been playing, we're pretty much at the end of the standard storyline.
15:39 <RazorSharpFang> Anyway, I'm off to sleep. Good night.
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16:04 <Cepheid> Cats are freaking out.
16:15 <Cepheid> I miss when this series used "Kill target while target is cursed" instead of "Kill target with curse damage."
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16:17 <Lumin> Doro! Monsta cardo!
16:18 <Cepheid> Holy hell that's the first time I achieved a kill by curse damage. And on a FOE no less.
16:25 <Lumin> Even in your ponies
16:25 <Lumin> FOE
16:25 <Cepheid> Yep.
16:27 <Cepheid> But it's so soft and fuzzy!(Not anymore. EO4 and onwards, when they moved to the 3DS, they removed the "Fuzzy Orange/Red Sphere" appearance.)
16:28 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up
16:31 <Cepheid> Man, just one more accursed fang and I'm set.
16:32 <Cepheid> Getting tired of status ailments in this stratum, and those fangs turn into talismans with Status Ailment Resist+++. If I have 5 of them, I'm set.
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16:32 <Cepheid> Even for the "final boss" who uses status effects galore.
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16:33 <Cepheid> Even ADragonDreaming's solution, who is tuning into KonaSuba's Megumine, isn't sufficient. Explosions don't work on everything.
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16:35 <Cepheid> Aaaand success.
16:36 <Cepheid> Just need to scrounge up the money now. Another 66,000 Ental.
16:45 <Cepheid> And the first character to reach level 70(Current maximum) is Razor, our katana-weilding psychopath.
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16:56 <Cepheid> Hello ADragonDreaming.
16:57 <ADragonDreaming> Hi.
16:57 <Cepheid> How goes it?
16:57 <ADragonDreaming> I am a baked potato.
16:57 <Cepheid> You've lost me.
16:58 <ADragonDreaming> If you are what you eat...
16:59 <Cepheid> You're eating a baked potato then.
16:59 <ADragonDreaming> Yes.
16:59 <ADragonDreaming> But that is a less interesting statement than "I am a baked potato."
17:00 <Cepheid> I won't argue that.
17:00 <ADragonDreaming> How goes it for thee?
17:00 <Cepheid> Good. Gaming as usual. Just powerleveling characters, finding powerful gear, etc.
17:02 <Cepheid> I plan to temporarily respec Dreamer. I need his ice explosions at maximum potency.
17:02 <ADragonDreaming> I approved.
17:03 <ADragonDreaming> Retroactively.
17:03 <Cepheid> Eventually they will all be at maximum potency, but that requires killing three dragons first. Assuming the dragons are in this game. Either way, I need to kill three superbosses.
17:07 <Cepheid> At the moment, he's pretty much a master of basic elemental magic, and one superpowered ice explosion. I gave him Fast Chant and maxed out Focus Chant. Essentially? For a bit more TP, that superpowered ice explosion is even more powerful.
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17:08 <Cepheid> Case in point, he just dealt 1,911 damage against a ice-weak monster.
17:11 <Cepheid> ... There's no way that skill would ever work against the final boss, right? There's a skill necromancers get, that consumes a percentage of a wraith's health to do equivalent damage to a target. It's possible to get wraiths with 9999 HP. Three of them would wreck the boss.
17:13 <Cepheid> I am going to regret trying this, because if it cheeses the boss..
17:19 <Cepheid> And therein lies the problem. Need to get up to the boss first, and I got another boss in the way.
17:19 <Cepheid> No matter, I'll just three-shot it.
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17:27 * Ali flops next to Cepheid
17:29 <Cepheid> Blasted boss into non-existence. Now onto the real test... clearly this won't work, right? RIGHT?
17:30 * Tempest-Shadow snuggles ali
17:30 * Ali squees and nuzzles Tempest-Shadow
17:31 * Tempest-Shadow winks and ruffles dat mane
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17:36 <Cepheid> ... You are kidding me. It works against the final boss. I didn't bring the right cannon to finish off the last bit of HP, though.
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17:38 <Cepheid> Hell with it. I've gone through enough *YAY* getting to this point. I'm gonna rip this boss a new one.
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17:44 <Cepheid> And with that, Pinkie just dealt 29,997 damage to the final boss, reducing it to literally 10% of it's health.
17:45 <Cepheid> And then Dreamer killed it.
17:46 <Ali> Overlevel much?
17:47 <Cepheid> You can probably do it as early as level 40.
17:51 * Lumin pets Ali lots and lots
17:51 * Ali yays and leans into Lumin pets
17:51 <Lumin> <3
17:52 <Lumin> Ali so nice
17:52 <Lumin> <3
17:55 <Ali> Cepheid, I have one small issue with the logistics bots. They seem to just deliver stuff randomly.
17:55 <Ali> Is this what you ment by different networks?
17:56 <Cepheid> Yeah, by separating the networks, you can control what's delivered. That said, delivering items between networks still needs belts.
17:58 * Lumin pets Cehpheid
17:59 <Cepheid> ... Oh geezus.
17:59 <Cepheid> The sixth stratum is quite literally outer space, or rather, a separate dimension within outer space.
18:01 <Cepheid> Also, I had the interpretation of the story a bit off. The great and terrible evil that is the final boss had actually existed prior to the tree. It was the reason for the planet being barren and mostly lifeless, it seems. Aliens came by, did battle, and then planted an Yggdrasil tree to seal what remained, along with drawing energy from the creature. This gave rise to the planet as it is in it's current state. In any
18:01 <Cepheid> case..
18:01 <Cepheid> Now I get to travel to another planet!
18:04 <Cepheid> Only 7 more bosses left.
18:04 <Cepheid> Three of those are automatically reserved for special bosses that increase the level cap.
18:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: The Summoning / Attendance Numbers / Daddy Issues / After Surf&Turf / Official Rituals / Maud Go Round / Maestro / Stormy #17 / Science [ http://tinyurl.com/yakdkgkx ]
18:08 <Cepheid> Up next. Kill crystal Dragon in less than 10 turns. Can do it in three.
18:11 <Ali> Bleh I need more blue bottles for research but these bots won't deliver
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18:27 <PinkieShy> oh god.. that's a Sentence I haven't seen somebody use in 10+ years lol
18:27 <PinkieShy> Someone asking another person to IM them.
18:27 <PinkieShy> Instant Messenger..
18:27 <Schism> PinkieShy: A/S/L? (Kidding, kidding.)
18:28 <Ali> Good old IM
18:28 * Ali flops over Schism
18:28 * Schism pats the Ali! Provides chicken nuggets with sriracha sauce.
18:29 * Ali nopes the *yay* out of that
18:29 * Schism then blinks, replaces the sriracha with honey.
18:29 * Ali will take the honey yes
18:29 * Ali doesn't like her mouth to be on fire.
18:29 <Cepheid> Schism: I cheesed the final boss.
18:29 <Schism> Zombie Powder on FOEs, followed by obliteration at 9999 damage a turn?
18:29 <Ali> If I wanted to shoot fire from my mouth, I'd been a dragon
18:30 <Cepheid> Yes.
18:30 <Cepheid> I won't be using that technique from here-on out. It's just too cheesey.
18:30 <Cepheid> Except maybe on the Hippogryph.
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18:32 * PinkieShy hands Ali a shortbread cookie with the AIM logo on it.
18:32 * Schism also boops the Lumin with some baklava. It's the turn-in item for CUL 51, like, 99% of the time. Bleh.
18:32 <Schism> 61*
18:32 <Schism> I am rather saddened that AIM is no more.
18:32 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, the team is strong enough to almost beat the Primordiphant. Just need to adjust the tactics a tad.
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18:37 <Cepheid> However, I need a break from this.
18:40 <Cepheid> Schism: Oh, and the final stratum is literally outer space.
18:41 <Schism> Outer Space, in a <1950s reverb> PARALLEL DIMENSION! </1950s reverb>
18:42 <Cepheid> More or less.
18:42 <Cepheid> It is apparently a path to another planet, connected by warp points.
18:43 <Cepheid> Purpose being that the ALIEN who saved our little planet wants to go save another planet, can't fight, and needs us to escort her along the way.
18:44 <Schism> That little girl who kept stringing you along with bits and pieces of the story, I take it.
18:45 <Cepheid> Yep. Full explanation as to what's going on: World was barren wasteland ruled by Eternal Tyrant. An alien species, the Arken came along, sealed the Eternal Tyrant in the tree, then spread myths in the hope that it would draw someone or some group to the tree, to explore it, and then kill the Eternal Tyrant. After that, the remaining Arken on the planet wants to leave and go and help another planet, but is not receiving any
18:45 <Cepheid> commands from the homeplanet, among other things. Thus, we've been tasked to deliver her to another planet.
18:46 * Schism noddles. "And thus, the sequel hook is revealed."
18:46 <Cepheid> Presumably.
18:46 <Cepheid> Assuming Cross is meant to be a sequel and not just another offshoot.
18:48 <Cepheid> Given you know, that it includes every class from every game and all that.
18:49 <Cepheid> It is going to be difficult to pick a 5-person team for that game.
18:53 <Schism> Heh, Calvin Coolidge is now one of my favourite presidents.
18:53 <Schism> Also, despite my dislike of George W. Bush, at least he liked cats.
18:54 <Cepheid> I can now relax. While I haven't completed post-game, I expect to slowly do all that over a month's time.
18:54 <Schism> What the... people were upset at Barbara Bush naming the family's black cat "India"?
18:55 * Schism also noddles to Cepheid.
18:56 <Cepheid> Schism: People will be upset about anything.
18:56 <Schism> Mm. You would think that the reference, though, would be obvious.
18:56 <Cepheid> Modern generation is full of people who probably won't get the reference.
18:56 <Cepheid> As a result, what they see is "indian- or black-sounding name associated with a black cat is racism."
18:57 <Schism> Except that india ink is heavily used in tattoos, amongst other things.
18:58 <Cepheid> Big name associated with the context. People are looking for an excuse to hate.
18:58 <Schism> Fair enough.
18:59 * Schism peers at the list of U.S. Presidential pets, gets to Theodore Roosevelt, stops.
19:00 <Schism> Come to think, Calvin Coolidge had a wide variety of pets, too. Including a very famous raccoon.
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19:00 <Cepheid> Were I some big name, I guarantee someone would try to find offense to the name "Tizzy" for a female cat, or "Spitfire" for a male black cat.
19:00 <Schism> ...and two lions, named "Tax Reduction" and "Budget Bureau".
19:00 <Schism> Yeah, probab.y
19:00 <Schism> probably.*
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19:15 <Cepheid> I need to closely analyze how the game renders walls. There's an oddity about that I need to account for.
19:19 <Cepheid> Basically, the game has multiple variations of wall segments, but they all mesh together well. This is tricky to do, because of the need for matching joints. Problem is, these kinds of matching joints are easy to spot, especially if there is no variation in them.
19:32 <Ali> Man these bots are nice but lordy are they dumb
19:33 <Ali> 400/600 bots inactive
19:33 <Ali> -12 copper but there's 50+ sitting in chests
19:33 <Ali> Why aren't they fetching it?
19:36 <Cepheid> Schism: Inexplicably, Capcom is re-releasing two games on CARTRIDGE.
19:37 <Cepheid> Ali: Usually a negative value indicates that there isn't enough copper. What type of chest is the copper in? And is it in the appropriate logistics network/range?
19:38 <Schism> Cepheid: Which games?
19:38 <Cepheid> Mega Man X and Mega Man 2.
19:40 <Schism> Hmm. Two of the most well-regarded in the series, makes sense. Publicity and all that; what form of cartridge?
19:41 <Cepheid> SNES and NES respectively. Some standard opaque, some translucent glow-in-the-dark. $100 for a copy, 8,500 copies available. Later this year, apparently, for the 30 year anniversary.
19:46 <Ali> Cepheid, Passive Provider chests
19:48 <Cepheid> Should work. Only thing that comes to mind is that it's not in the right logistics network.
19:51 <Ali> I know, but the requesting chests are empty and they're not providing
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20:26 * Cepheid boots up Etrian Odyssey 1, 'cause why not?
20:27 * Schism peers at the Challenge Log for the week, deciding what to do first.
20:29 <Cepheid> Eh, let's do Etrian Odyssey 3 like planned. I gather you want a healer again, Schism?
20:29 <Schism> Sure.
20:29 <Cepheid> I won't be playing it religiously. I've already finished the main game, so yeah.
20:31 * Schism nodnods. Also, decides to go for some job quests.
20:31 <Schism> Here I am, harvesting popotoes... again...
20:32 * Cepheid makes Schism a Monk, old man variant. These are combat monks, so the old man is ripped.
20:32 <Cepheid> They do the healing in this game, while being able to fight.
20:34 <Cepheid> Tirek, last time, wanted a punch-heavy character. Dreamer wanted explosions. That makes Tirek another Monk, and Dreamer an alchemist.
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20:35 <Cepheid> Razor was a melee fighter last time. Katana. The closest class that supports that are Ninja. Though later I can gain access to an actual samurai class.
20:36 <Cepheid> So I'll make him a Gladiator, for the moment.
20:40 <Schism> Right. How did I forget that a 33% chance of mining HQ means a 5% chance of actually getting the item?
20:40 <Cepheid> Apparently EO3 just uses common joiners, and variates what's in between them.
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20:48 <Cepheid> Huh. Indicating shortcuts has existed since as far back as Etrian Odyssey 3. I just never noticed it as it was a bit less obvious.
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20:54 <Cepheid> ... Atlus, that's a sneaky trick.
20:54 <Cepheid> I examined the walls in EO5.
20:55 <Cepheid> They're simply a repeating pattern, but there's extra flourishes that can appear in front to give it variation.
20:55 <Cepheid> And they use the flourish to hide the repetitive nature.
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21:05 <Cepheid> So basically, if I want to achieve a similar level of quality, just use a repeating pattern, with special cases for corners(Games use a different model for interior and exterior angle corners), and separate embelishments that are randomly chosen.
21:07 <Schism> Hmmm, that'll definitely work. X3
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21:13 <DashedRainbows> Good afternoon all
21:18 <Cepheid> Schism: Eh, if it works for them, and the recent games DO have a lot of variation in their appearances, it'll work for me.
21:18 * Schism nodnods.
21:18 <Cepheid> It's just... what level of quality do I want? I don't want to bog down machines with a level of quality similar to Legend of Grimrock.
21:18 <Cepheid> Plus that style doesn't really fit the colourful-but-dark background the series has, which I like.
21:23 <Schism> Sure, marketplace. I put up furniture, and someone undercuts me on a 150,000 gil item by one gil. Jerk.
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21:30 <twilightroo> spike take a note
21:31 <twilightroo> this is razzaroo
21:37 <DashedRainbows> Yo twilightroo
21:39 <twilightroo> Hi DashedRainbows
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21:43 <twilightroo> ~.~
21:48 * Cepheid flails aboot.
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21:49 <twilightroo> 🍎
21:49 <ADragonDreaming> a boot?
21:50 <ADragonDreaming> a BOOT!
21:50 <ADragonDreaming> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFldBVWFgWo
21:51 <twilightroo> wth xD
21:52 <DashedRainbows> How is you, twilightroo
21:53 <twilightroo> I'm okayish DashesRainbows
21:53 <twilightroo> DashedRainbows
21:55 <Cepheid> I forgot how slowly the characters move around in the Old-Era games.
21:56 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming, you got the final shot in on the "final boss" of EO5.
21:56 <ADragonDreaming> huzzah!
21:56 <ADragonDreaming> I exploded it!
21:56 <twilightroo> how about you DashedRainbows
21:57 <Cepheid> With ice, yes. Though to be honest, you did very little damage in the grand scheme of things.
21:57 <Cepheid> See, Pinkie did most of the damage. 29,997 damage.
21:57 <ADragonDreaming> Doesn't matter, exploded him.
21:58 <Cepheid> Heh.
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21:58 <ADragonDreaming> or her
21:58 <ADragonDreaming> or it
21:58 <Cepheid> It.
21:58 <Cepheid> Though the name given implies male. Eternal Tyrant.
21:59 <Cepheid> Ruled over the planet when it was a barren wasteland. Sealed away by aliens in the tree.
21:59 <ADragonDreaming> ...is there a female form of Tyrant?
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22:00 <Cepheid> I don't know. I've just always associated the word "Tyrant" with male, for some reason. I'm also pretty sure that's actually how it's supposed to be, but then again I've been known to be wrong.
22:00 <twilightroo> 🐱🐭🍙💘 fruits basket
22:01 <Cepheid> Apparently I am wrong.
22:01 <Cepheid> Tyrant is non-gender specific.
22:02 <Cepheid> I now need to figure out who to give these particular items.
22:02 <Schism> Er, yeah. Celestia is a tyrant, ostensibly.
22:02 <Cepheid> Arcania's Orb. +50 HP, +50 TP, +10 to all stats.
22:03 <Cepheid> Yggdrasil Ring. STR +30, INT + 30.
22:03 <Cepheid> Yggdrasil Ring seems geared towards a Fencer.
22:04 <Cepheid> I'm gonna throw it on Dreamer.
22:05 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Schism's belly
22:06 <Cepheid> Rutile Gloves on him as well. Another +6 INT.
22:06 <Cepheid> His MATK is a staggering 271.
22:07 <twilightroo> :P
22:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Hasbro Buys Power Rangers and Other "Saban" brands for $522 Million [ http://tinyurl.com/ybyctlru ]
22:08 <Cepheid> I can push it even further, but need the best staff weapon.
22:09 <Cepheid> That's... Filia's Zhezl. From a superboss.
22:10 <Cepheid> Next powerful weapon is the Creation Rod, from a standard moster or a FOE.
22:10 * Schism has no cooki for Filly_Nightmares today. Shall have to make some soon.
22:11 <twilightroo> Omg
22:11 <twilightroo> No
22:11 <twilightroo> They cant!
22:11 <twilightroo> i dont mind but power rangers is in good hands already
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22:12 <Cepheid> Right, time to go to stratum six and... "explore"
22:12 <Cepheid> For all of 10 steps before a monster kills us.
22:13 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Cepheid
22:14 <twilightroo> at the same time more power rangers merch is a good thing
22:14 <twilightroo> ^^
22:17 <Cepheid> Well, we survived TWO battles. Cepheid got killed in one hit though.
22:21 <twilightroo> ~
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22:32 <Cepheid> I am so glad no one needs any EXP right now, because deaths are common.
22:35 <Cepheid> ... Okay, I am gonna need a new approach to mapping teleporters. Not enough numbered icons for them all.
22:38 <Cepheid> Hmm. These teleporters move me 4 spaces ahead in the direction I am facing.
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22:39 * Schism goes after more 'shooting stars'. Well, a type of fish, anyway.
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22:40 <Cepheid> The shooting stars I'm killing go supernova and kill individual members of the party.
22:40 <Cepheid> Dreamer's MATK has just jumped +61 points.
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22:43 <ADragonDreaming> HUZZAH!
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22:45 * Cepheid grinds inert sugarcores.
22:50 <ADragonDreaming> "Don't try to change the subject; you can't spell eye!"
22:51 <Cepheid> Eye spy with my little i, a dragon.
22:53 <Cepheid> Right, time to go kill a war elephant. We have the strength to murder it, but we just didn't have the resources.
22:54 <Cepheid> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2nW5-Fi4fg Queue this track. It's the superboss theme.
22:56 <Cepheid> Sweet geezus ADragonDreaming, you're hitting it for 1,400 damage with a standard spell boosted by Focus Chant.
22:56 <ADragonDreaming> Explosions. Fix. Everything.
22:57 <Cepheid> I attempted the Primordiphant earlier. You only managed 750. Somehow I've doubled your output.
22:58 <Cepheid> If I can keep you alive, and feed you as much TP as possible, this thing will die in... 24 explosive lightning bolts.
23:00 <Schism> Haratsuge Sprag... mutter...
23:00 * Schism tries catching fish.
23:01 <ADragonDreaming> quel jeu?
23:03 <Cepheid> What do I have to hit it with to get the rare drop..?
23:04 <ADragonDreaming> A mouse.
23:04 <Cepheid> Legs gotta be bound.
23:04 <Cepheid> Not gonna happen. It's too weak at this point.
23:05 <Cepheid> And ADra gets the last shot. Explosive lightning.
23:05 <ADragonDreaming> Ka bewm!
23:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2607 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9udomv2 ]
23:08 <Cepheid> Polydeuces. Ultimate fist weapon.
23:10 <Cepheid> It's expensive, though. 336,000 Ental.
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23:16 * Saerydoth has to learn how to ghtto sjump and use secret worlds in Metroid Prime 2
23:16 <Saerydoth> no way to beat the game in hard mode without it
23:18 <Cepheid> Oh?
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23:19 <Saerydoth> yeah
23:19 <Saerydoth> boost guardian cannot be beaten in hard mode via normal gameplay...it's numerically impossible with the items you can have at that point via normal play (normal mode is difficult, but still possible)
23:19 <Saerydoth> it should be noted that they nerfed it for the Wii re-release so that hypermode is slightly easier than the Gamecube normal mode (cut his health and damage both in half)
23:20 <Saerydoth> one of the developers later admitted that it was impossible without debug mode...or in this case a tricky sequence break to get a power bomb before him
23:20 <Saerydoth> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz2ose1JK8E
23:20 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
23:20 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Metroid Prime 2: Early Power Bombs
23:20 <Saerydoth> that's what I have ti do
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23:21 <Cepheid> Boost Guardian, that's the one you fight in ball form in a small circular arena?
23:21 <Saerydoth> yes
23:21 <Saerydoth> Note: This only applies to the Gamecube version. The Wii Trilogy version is beatable on hypermode
23:21 <Cepheid> ... Where are you getting these claims that X is impossible? I've beaten hard mode without cheating.
23:22 <Saerydoth> I would say how did this ever get past playtesting...but the game was 30% complete and Nintendo gave them a 3 month deadline, so I'm surprised it's as good as it is
23:23 <Cepheid> ... I forgot to *SAVE* after I killed the Primordiphant?
23:24 <Cepheid> ... Oh gods, the autosave feature was disabled and I forgot to re-enable it.
23:25 <Cepheid> Guh. Time to do something else.
23:26 <Schism> Eorzea awaits.
23:27 <Saerydoth> wow, this early power bomb would let you break the game wide open and go anywhere
23:27 <Saerydoth> I'm only going to use it to beat the boost guardian though, and not otherwise use power bombs until I would've gotten them normally
23:32 <Saerydoth> I did the ghetto jump but I'm having trouble hitting the right spot to leave the amp
23:32 <Saerydoth> *map
23:33 <Saerydoth> I never really did this stuff in the Prime games, secret worlds are new to me
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23:57 <Schism> Back in a sec, store run. Cookies tonight...
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