Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Saturday, 2018-05-12

00:02 * ADragonDreaming converts the washers to mk 2

00:06 <ADragonDreaming> hm. I could wash down to saline ...

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00:10 <Schism> That is always an option, aye.

00:38 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Comic: Pinkie Pie Says Goodnight – Mother's Day Wishes [ http://tinyurl.com/ycruvw9m ]

00:47 <ADragonDreaming> hmm... I DO need carbon in the process of creating .....

00:47 <ADragonDreaming> electronics.

00:48 <ADragonDreaming> so the CO2 from lime production can used. OKAY.

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01:06 <Tempest-Shadow> Good lord, ducktales 2017 just keeps getting better. xD

01:07 <Schism> Hop on our backs!  We'll bring you to the next hole!  And definitely not to a watery grave.

01:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2617 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycdrgy8m ]

01:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: EXCLUSIVE:My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic #66—Extended Preview! [ http://tinyurl.com/yaupl3jn ]

01:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Equestria Girls Shorts - "Too Hot to Handle" and "Fashion Do's and Dont's" Added to Hasbro Youtube [ http://tinyurl.com/ya5yvgpb ]

01:09 <Tempest-Shadow> an old friend returned, if only for a brief moment.

01:09 <Tempest-Shadow> We still love ya, DW~

01:09 <ADragonDreaming> hm?

01:09 <Tempest-Shadow> Ducktales had a great intro troll for darkwing.

01:14 <PinkieShy> :/

01:14 <PinkieShy> Verizon is going to sell the E5 Plus.

01:14 <PinkieShy> only E5 play..

01:14 <Saerydoth> the who what?

01:14 <PinkieShy> They told me if i want E5 plus go through Moto Directly to get it.

01:14 <PinkieShy> Its a motorola phone Saerydoth :P

01:14 <Saerydoth> oh ok

01:14 <Saerydoth> I don't buy carrier phones, I will only use factory unlocked phones

01:15 <Saerydoth> it's worth it to just buy your own phone

01:15 <Saerydoth> cause then the carrier can't control the software on it

01:15 <Saerydoth> and you can do whatever you want with it

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01:16 <CivilDefense> hello all

01:17 <PinkieShy> Saerydoth you think the carrier unlocked would work on Verizon tho?

01:17 <PinkieShy> my dad can't handle 6" phone so I'm getting him the E5 play for fathers day and getting me a E5 Plus

01:18 <PinkieShy> He clearly told me he can't see himself using a 6 inch phone.

01:19 <Saerydoth> I dunno...I won't touch CDMA carriers with a 10-foot pole

01:19 * Saerydoth recommends t-mobile

01:19 <PinkieShy> I can't do GSM...

01:19 <PinkieShy> GSM don't work in my neighborhood at all

01:19 <Saerydoth> their plans are cheaper if you have your own phone

01:19 <PinkieShy> T-mobile don't work and att don't work.

01:19 <Saerydoth> weird

01:19 <PinkieShy> both are a deadzone here

01:19 <PinkieShy> Verizon owns most of the towers out here :P

01:19 <PinkieShy> Saerydoth My phone is cheaper than T-mobile tho

01:19 <PinkieShy> $50 for 8GB of data with rollover.

01:20 * Saerydoth nods

01:20 <PinkieShy> I'm on prepaid.

01:20 <Saerydoth> ah

01:20 <Saerydoth> apparently you can use any device that's compatible with their network

01:20 <Saerydoth> https://www.verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/

01:21 <CivilDefense> Random question, are MLP FanFics still popular?

01:21 <PinkieShy> oh wow.

01:21 <Saerydoth> I don't know

01:21 <PinkieShy> my phone has nano sim

01:21 <Saerydoth> I stopped reading fanfics awhile back

01:21 <Saerydoth> here's why

01:21 <PinkieShy> so i could just transfer the old sim to the new phone..

01:21 <Saerydoth> I started reading many fanfics that were really good

01:21 <Saerydoth> but were abandoned by their authors before completion

01:21 <ADragonDreaming> https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1383685088

01:21 <Saerydoth> nothing is more irritating than reading a story you know won't be completed

01:21 <Saerydoth> so I only started reading fanfics that were already done

01:22 <CivilDefense> yea i get that

01:22 <Saerydoth> I know fimfiction.net is still up and running strong htouhg

01:22 <ADragonDreaming> https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1383685027

01:22 <ADragonDreaming> Huzzah, Brick and Sulfuric Acid production.

01:22 <Saerydoth> my roommate is a rather prolific fanfic writer too

01:23 <CivilDefense> the only ones ive ever read all the way through were Fallout: Equestria, Rainbow Factory, My Little Dashie

01:24 <PinkieShy> Does anybody here know.. Is it possible to get a plumber to fix a issue with the plumbing for us out of our pocket since the landlord doesn't fix what he starts?

01:24 <CivilDefense> thats really it, and it took me a couple months to read Fallout: Equestria

01:24 <PinkieShy> The landlord out here has been known as a slumlord by everyone in the neighborhood..

01:24 <Saerydoth> My Little Dashie predicted the show would run for 9 seasons, and it was right

01:25 <CivilDefense> PinkieShy: yes it is but it would start major problems

01:25 <Saerydoth> I dunno, what's the issue with the plumbing?

01:25 <ADragonDreaming> Fixing it yourself out of pocket reinforces slumlord behavior.

01:25 <PinkieShy> one toilet isn't working but the other toilet is.

01:25 <PinkieShy> other toilet has a issue tho

01:25 <PinkieShy> Its started to leak very badly..

01:25 <RazorSharpFang> Sue them. :P

01:25 <PinkieShy> Shut off valve is leaking now and the supply line is leaking.

01:25 <RazorSharpFang> Do you have to pay the water bill too?

01:25 <ADragonDreaming> or at least threaten it. If he's not holding up the terms of the lease...

01:26 <CivilDefense> Saerydoth: holy crap i forget about that, next season is suppose to be it's last isnt it?

01:26 <Saerydoth> yeah

01:26 <Saerydoth> I have bittersweet feelings about it

01:26 <CivilDefense> thats the rumor at least

01:26 <PinkieShy> Last time somebody threatened to sue them.. They didn't do nothing.

01:26 <Saerydoth> 1) I'm glad they won't be running it into the ground

01:26 <Saerydoth> 2) I want them to give it an open ended ending.  The adventure continues

01:26 <Saerydoth> 3) No stupid framing stories showing them as old or anything

01:26 <PinkieShy> They were mad over the dirt road not being fixed.. instead he just let the grass grow all over the road.. which is where we are today.

01:27 <CivilDefense> well i heard a Generation 5 is in the works

01:27 <ADragonDreaming> Well, I mean.

01:27 <Saerydoth> I have mixed feelings about that too

01:27 <RazorSharpFang> I'm surprised the grass can grow given it's being run over constantly.

01:27 <RazorSharpFang> PinkieShy, do you have to pay the water bill?

01:27 <ADragonDreaming> Go meet a lawyer

01:28 <CivilDefense> PinkieShy: you can fix the plumbing out of pocket and take it out of the rent just check with city code first

01:28 <Saerydoth> I don't think I'll like it.  I'm not attached to the show, or the writers...I'm attached to the characters

01:28 <ADragonDreaming> SEe what you're options are

01:28 <PinkieShy> We pay eletric bill, water bill and such so yea.

01:28 <Saerydoth> and I am freaking sick to death of reboots

01:29 <Saerydoth> at the same time, if it doens't turn out to be good, then G4 will end on a high note, rather than being run into the ground, and fanfics can continue for decades

01:29 <CivilDefense> yea Saerydoth im attached to the character more as well but im really emotionally attached to the fandom. i've been a brony since 2012 and i cant see myself anywhere else

01:29 <ADragonDreaming> You should really be researching your local codes, laws, and ordinances

01:29 <Saerydoth> late 2010 myself

01:29 <ADragonDreaming> as well as checking the terms of the lease agreement

01:29 <RazorSharpFang> PinkieShy, well, it's just not right that you should be paying for their failure to fix their stuff.

01:29 <Saerydoth> it took 6 months for my friends to convince me to watch it

01:29 <Saerydoth> I thought they were high

01:29 <Saerydoth> "You want me to watch WHAT?"

01:29 <ADragonDreaming> and perhaps discussing your options with actual legal counsel

01:29 <Saerydoth> after 6 months I finally relented (after my roommate copied the whole first season to my Linux server)

01:30 <Saerydoth> and said ok, I will watch one episode if you'll shut up about it

01:30 <ADragonDreaming> Remember that this channel is just a bunch of people on the internet

01:30 <CivilDefense> Saerydoth: the way i got into MLP is actually a really long story lol

01:30 <Saerydoth> ...that one episode ended up being me watching the entire first season in a marathon

01:30 <Saerydoth> and I was like...wtf, this is the most amazing thing I've ever seen, animated or otherwise

01:30 <ADragonDreaming> And even if any of us were lawyers, well

01:30 <Saerydoth> a couple years ago I spent over $400 on a custom Rainbow Dash plushie

01:30 <Saerydoth> rofl

01:31 <ADragonDreaming> different cities, counties, and states have different regulations

01:31 <CivilDefense> i could PM you my story if you want, i dont think the chat is interested in hearing it in full

01:32 <CivilDefense> wow chat came to a dead stop lol

01:33 <Tempest-Shadow> it does that

01:34 <CivilDefense> ahh ok

01:37 <PinkieShy> Uhh does anybody know.. if my dog just got scratched by the neighbor's cat..

01:37 <PinkieShy> should a dog welp from that..

01:37 <PinkieShy> he didn't welp at all.. but the cat put his paw near his head.

01:38 <PinkieShy> Like would a yelp be a sign it happened and no yelp means i pulled him away from the cat in time?

01:38 <RazorSharpFang> Not necessarily, examine the head.

01:39 <PinkieShy> I check his eyes..

01:39 <PinkieShy> it don't look red or anything wrong

01:39 <PinkieShy> checked his neck and head and all is fine.

01:39 <Tempest-Shadow> Probably just feeling like a wuss from the attack

01:40 <PinkieShy> So if everything is ok and he closes his eyes wqhen i put my finger near then he is ok?

01:41 <RazorSharpFang> Not necessarily, but if anything's wrong it should present itself.

01:42 <Cepheid> Hmm?  Cat attacked a doggo?

01:43 <Cepheid> !log

01:43 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html

01:44 <Cepheid> Sounds like the dog a swipe from a cat paw.  It will yelp if swiped.  Those claws hurt even if it is just the tip.  But the dog is probably fine.

01:46 <Cepheid> I've seen dogs take direct swipes from cats.  They will yelp and back off, but generally come out with nothing more that a welt like you would see on a human.

01:47 <Cepheid> Sort of like a warning swipe.  Next time won't be so good.

01:47 <CivilDefense> sounds like the cat was in defense at that moment before going into offense

01:51 <Saerydoth> yeah that means the dog was doing something it shouldn't have been doing and the cat was saying knock it off

01:52 <Saerydoth> cat claws are like tiny razors

01:52 <Saerydoth> if all they cause is a minor injury it was clearly just a warning

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01:56 <CivilDefense> Saerydoth: only reason i asked about FiMFics is because i was planning on writing one

01:57 <PinkieShy> Cepheid again so if my yelp then he's fine?

01:57 <PinkieShy> *no

01:57 <PinkieShy> *if no yelp

01:59 <Cepheid> He either took it like a tough dog or the claws weren't out if he didn't yelp.

01:59 <PinkieShy> Cepheid here is how it happened..

02:00 <PinkieShy> I saw the cat put his paw near my dog's head and i pulled my dog away fast.

02:00 <PinkieShy> and even got in the way.

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02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: The Future of BABSCon is Here April 19-21, 2019, and Rebecca Shoichet Will Be There…but Get Your Early Bird Discounts NOW!   [ http://tinyurl.com/yd4ytjcl ]

02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1437 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7nnomyv ]

02:08 <Saerydoth> if a cat was using its paws that way, that's a defense posture

02:09 <Saerydoth> don't blame the cat

02:09 <Saerydoth> the cat was trying to warn the dgo

02:09 <Saerydoth> *dog

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02:12 <PinkieShy> Saerydoth but does it sound like my dog was hurt?

02:12 <ADragonDreaming> Is your dog bleeding

02:12 <Saerydoth> a yelp can just mean they were scared

02:12 <Saerydoth> or surprised

02:13 <Saerydoth> dogs aren't good at hiding injury/pain like cats are, if a dog isn't ok you'll usually know it

02:15 <Cepheid> PinkieShy, random question.  Have you ever been diagnosed with anxiety or some sort of paranoia-related issue?

02:16 <PinkieShy> I do have autism

02:16 <PinkieShy> and my doctor told me Anxiety is a very common part of it.

02:17 <RazorSharpFang> I wasn't aware of that.

02:17 <PinkieShy> My dog isn't bleeding.. I'm just worried.

02:17 <PinkieShy> My dog is still so young i don't want him to have any damage that could be forever.

02:18 <ADragonDreaming> If he is not bleeding, I would not be concerned.

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02:18 <Cepheid> Dogs get swiped at all the time by cats.  If he's not bleeding, he's fine.

02:18 <Cepheid> My sister's dog, every time she visits with the dog, tries to befriend both of my cats all the time.

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02:18 <Cepheid> And they regularly take swipes at the dog, with loud "Yelp!"s and scrambling away.

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02:21 <Cepheid> While cats can induce permanent scars with their claws, it takes a LOT of effort for them to do it.  Meanwhile, outside of rabies, which is incredibly apparent, I'm pretty sure cats can't really transfer any real illnesses to dogs.

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02:22 <Cepheid> In all the times I've been bitten and scratched by cats, sometimes accidental, other times intentional, I have only ever received one set of permanent scars from it all, and that was accidental.

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02:25 <Cepheid> Schism, ADragonDreaming.  What version of Factorio are you relying on for Seablock?

02:25 <PinkieShy> Cepheid my anxiety has been worse this year it seems.

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02:25 <Schism> 16.36, Cepheid.

02:26 <PinkieShy> Which is why Project REX in the next city over.. would be beneful to me. They have groups to help cope with it and such..

02:26 <Cepheid> You might want to bring it up with your counselor or specialist.

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02:26 <Cepheid> I'm under the strong impression that whatever they have you on, it isn't working.

02:26 <PinkieShy> Project Rex helps those of us on the spectrum with depression and other issues.

02:26 <PinkieShy> I have to make an appointment.

02:27 <PinkieShy> Plus I'm not on any Meds.

02:27 <Cepheid> Huh.

02:28 <PinkieShy> yep.

02:28 <Cepheid> I literally do not have a choice in the matter.

02:28 <Cepheid> I can't function without medication.

02:29 <Cepheid> Schism:  So, Sea Block defaults, with Factorissimo(2?) installed?

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02:29 <Schism> Yup.  And Factorissimo 2, yeah.  Might as well turn pollution et al. off, enemy nests are rare and they don't really expand per se.

02:30 <Snapai> meow

02:31 * Cepheid downloads the zip archive of Factorio instead of using steam, so he can keep separate installs, etc, etc, etc, etc.

02:31 <Schism> S'what we do, yeah.

02:31 <Cepheid> Only issue is it takes a while.  Due to wifi, it's 3mb/sec.  Also.

02:32 <Cepheid> The wifi is why I'm not on FF14 for the most part at the moment.  I sit directly over a microwave that works in the 2.4GHz range and I don't have any dongles that work in the 5GHz range.  Even if I did, there's too much interference that 5Ghz is non-functional up here.

02:32 <Cepheid> Put simply:  Someone runs the microwave, I immediately drop.

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02:33 <Cepheid> I'm gonna move my bedroom around tomorrow to move my PC away from the microwave.

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02:33 <Snapai> All microwaves work in the 2.4GHz range.

02:33 <Snapai> That's why wifi's there o3o

02:33 <Snapai> Because the FCC said "This frequency range is too close to microwave ovens, we're not gonna bother restricting it, it's useless"

02:34 <Snapai> So all the commercial manufacturers saw frequencies they didn't have to pay to use. ;p

02:34 <Cepheid> I am aware.

02:34 <Snapai> oh ok :v

02:34 <Cepheid> I chose the wrong words.

02:34 <Snapai> Yeah I haven't been chatting much lately, I was just catching up on word quota. x.x

02:34 <Cepheid> No offense man, but I'm in Comp. Sci. :P

02:35 <Cepheid> This sort of information is floating around in my head somewhere.

02:35 <Snapai> It's probably being disrupted by the microwave ;)

02:35 <Cepheid> :P

02:35 * Schism nodnods to the Cepheid, in any case.

02:35 * Snapai nods at the Schism, for funs!

02:36 * Schism boops Snapai with a jamdrop cookie, made with homemade lemon curd.

02:36 <Cepheid> Okay, what dependencies are you guys using, Schism?  There's optional ones as well.

02:37 <Schism> Pretty much the whole set, including FNEI et al.

02:37 * Snapai suspects he now has a cookie stuck to his nose?

02:37 <Schism> Cookie on nose, not stuck to.

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02:38 <Cepheid> You're gonna need to give me a mod list Schism, because I only see a small set of dependencies, FNEI is not one of them.  Unless I am missing a mod that lists the rest of the dependencies.

02:39 <Cepheid> Is that "Sea Block Pack" needed at all?

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02:39 <Schism> One tick.

02:40 <Cepheid> No, I found it.

02:40 <Schism> https://imgur.com/a/vEs32XW

02:47 <Cepheid> I think that's everything..

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02:49 <Cepheid> Test right quick, then I'll pack up the mods folder and redist.

02:50 <Cepheid> I'll publish the server details when it's running.  Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes.

02:51 <Cepheid> I probably should have used zip instead of 7z.

02:52 <Snapai> Irritating that more things don't support newer open compressions

02:52 <Snapai> Least, I think 7z is open

02:52 <Cepheid> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1loiVJaZCDraJ-VRgTZgNRNNLZWmr3H5_/view?usp=sharing Here's the archive, Schism.

02:52 <Cepheid> Technically so is zip, Snapai.  It's just DEFLATE with a dictionary at the end.

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02:54 <Schism> Kaykay.  I'll set this up a bit later -- in the middle of a map run.

02:54 <Cepheid> 'Kay.

02:54 <Snapai> So....Sweetie Belle on a folded up pool toy?

02:54 <Cepheid> Same for you, ADragonDreaming.

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02:57 <Cepheid> Enemy Expansion, Pollution, Evolution all disabled..

03:01 <Cepheid> :27052 is the server address.

03:05 <ADragonDreaming> I am in the midst of GURPs game.

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03:06 <Cepheid> Fair enough.

03:06 <Cepheid> Oh, I forgot to set continuously-running.

03:06 <Cepheid> Easy switch.

03:07 <Cepheid> I actually want to try running a single-player server with that setting.  See how long I survive.

03:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Etherium Apex - Caelestus Carmine - Theme Of Celestia [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/yd5awyu8 ]

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03:09 <Thelema5> Hello everypony

03:10 <Cepheid> Morning.

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03:13 <CivilDefense> My net derped again

03:16 <Thelema5> Welcome back

03:17 * DashedRainbows licks Thelema5

03:21 <CivilDefense> thanks Thelema5

03:22 * Thelema5 tastes like cider

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03:23 <DashedRainbows> hm

03:24 * DashedRainbows tacks up Thelema5 and rides around

03:24 <DashedRainbows> hru

03:25 * Ali flops over Cepheid and headtilts at

03:27 <Cepheid> Hmm?

03:27 <Ali> You change server stuff?

03:28 * Thelema5 canters around

03:28 <Cepheid> Nah.

03:28 <Cepheid> I set up another game of Factorio, modded one, for Schism and ADragonDreaming.

03:33 <RazorSharpFang> What mods you applied?

03:38 <Schism> Seablock~!

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03:39 <RazorSharpFang> Ooh, I'd like to join too if that's alright.

03:39 * Thelema5 waves hello to PinkieShy

03:39 <RazorSharpFang> Do I have to have the same mods installed?

03:40 <PinkieShy> hiyas thelema5

03:41 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy. what's up?

03:41 <PinkieShy> eating a sandwich :P

03:41 <PinkieShy> how aboutyou

03:42 <DashedRainbows> just sitting here as always

03:46 <Cepheid> You do, RazorSharpFang.

03:46 <Cepheid> Give me a moment.

03:46 <Cepheid> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1loiVJaZCDraJ-VRgTZgNRNNLZWmr3H5_ This'll get you the archive to download and extract in a root directory of Factorio.

03:46 <Cepheid> Extract it, then connect to :27052

03:47 <Cepheid> It's a little cramped though.

03:47 <Schism> Heh.

03:48 <Schism> First person to break the rock has to get that chest up.

03:48 <Cepheid> Or just, ye know, use the rock as a chest.

03:48 <RazorSharpFang> Alright, I'm downloading, hope to be there soon.

03:49 <Cepheid> I haven't started doing anything 'cause I'm too terrified.

03:50 <RazorSharpFang> I can't remember where to extract the files.

03:51 <RazorSharpFang> Oh, roaming application data.

03:51 <Cepheid> I would not advise that.

03:51 <RazorSharpFang> No?

03:52 <Cepheid> Make a separate game install.

03:52 <Cepheid> Use the zip archive on the factorio website.

03:52 <RazorSharpFang> ? I'm on steam.

03:52 <Cepheid> Extract to a location, then extract the mod archive to that location.  Keep it separate.

03:52 <Cepheid> https://factorio.com/ You can log in through steam on their website and gain access to non-steam packages, I believe.

03:54 <Schism> Yupyup.

03:55 <RazorSharpFang> Steam login is failing through factorio.com

03:56 <Cepheid> Probably needs to be linked to an actual Factorio.com account.

03:56 <Cepheid> Which means creating an account, then linking it afterwards.

03:56 <DashedRainbows> How have you been, Thelema5?

03:59 <Thelema5> Okay, DashedRainbows.  Stopped eating meat, so learning a lot about how to make that sustainable.  There are a lot of good products available. Otherwise just working most of the time.  Been trying to get more exercise, now that the weather has improved

03:59 <Thelema5> You?

04:00 <PinkieShy> stop eating meat? o.o

04:00 <PinkieShy> I couldn't see myself doing that.

04:00 <PinkieShy> I'm sorta like the president in that manner.. Don't really touch fruits or veggies.

04:00 <PinkieShy> and i take my steak. well done :)

04:00 <ADragonDreaming> Fruits are yummy.

04:01 <Thelema5> To each their own.  I love meat... but i could no longer justify eating it to myself

04:01 <ADragonDreaming> Hey Ceph, can you query me the server IP? So I can find it easier later?

04:01 <PinkieShy> Veggies and Fruits if i eat them to fast.. Uhh.. they will cause me to want ot puke.

04:01 <PinkieShy> But now since i tried strawberries a few months ago..

04:01 <ADragonDreaming> So eat slow.

04:01 <PinkieShy> Give me a bowl of strawberries.. I'll go to town on them :D

04:01 <Thelema5> Yum!

04:10 <RazorSharpFang> What's the first step to seablocks?

04:12 <Thelema5> But yeah, pinkieshy, our culture has evolved to the point where quality ethical analogs for meat products are easily available- so I can't tell myself anymore that killing animals for my own saiety is necessary

04:12 <Thelema5> For example: https://youtu.be/kwLGYFpBddU?t=8m28s

04:16 <DashedRainbows> I'm, not sad, rather, just unsatisfied with life

04:19 * Thelema5 hugs you!

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04:20 <Thelema5> Any Other SU fans around?  WTH?

04:20 <ADragonDreaming> ...what does WTH mean in that context?

04:20 <Thelema5> What The Hell

04:21 <Cyan_Spark> Where’s that horse

04:21 <ADragonDreaming> Then I remain confused.

04:21 <Cyan_Spark> You know, the horse that likes SU

04:21 <Thelema5> The Last episode was explosive, turned the whole show upside down and requires a complete rewatch of the show

04:21 <ADragonDreaming> Ah.

04:22 <Thelema5> Reframed everything

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04:23 * DashedRainbows hugs Thelema5 until he squees

04:25 * Thelema5 squees

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04:30 * DashedRainbows poses. Is a pretty pony

04:32 * Thelema5 just needs a moment... the last SU episode was... holy crap! OMG

04:37 <DashedRainbows> Hmm

04:38 <DashedRainbows> Tomorrow's Saturday. Yay!

04:41 <ADragonDreaming> You mean today.

04:44 <DashedRainbows> Sure

04:46 <Schism> Long map runs...

04:47 <ADragonDreaming> map runs?

04:49 <Schism> Treasure maps, in FFXIV.

04:51 <ADragonDreaming> ah

04:52 * DashedRainbows trots off to bed dejectedly. Good night

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05:03 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming, we have a circular dependency issue.  In order to make an Electromagnetism Lab, we need Lab Construction Core, which is itself unlocked by the Laboratory research item.  But in order to get the Laboratory research done, we need to make... an Electromagnetism Lab.

05:08 <Ali> *Price Is Right lose noise*

05:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Comic: Pinkie Pie Says Goodnight – Mother's Day Wishes [ http://tinyurl.com/yaxn2tnc ]

05:09 <ADragonDreaming> eh? that doesn't sound right

05:09 <ADragonDreaming> I got the lab without issue

05:10 <Cepheid> Bah, I think my mistake was using the newest versions.

05:11 <ADragonDreaming> yeah, that must be new, because the lab in my game just costs gears, belts, and basic circuit boards.

05:11 <Cepheid> Probably version mismatch.  I'll switch to the correct versions and re-upload the mod.

05:12 <Cepheid> Or, use the version on the forum "main website" for Sea Block.

05:12 <Cepheid> Guess that would have been smarter.

05:13 * Filly_Nightmares curls up on Cepheid

05:13 <Cepheid> https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=43759 RazorSharpFang, delete your mods subfolder, replace it with the contents of the Download-Url on this website.

05:14 <RazorSharpFang> Mega, huh?

05:14 <Schism> And Factorissimo, please?  >>;

05:14 <Cepheid> Ah, right.

05:14 <Cepheid> Nevermind Razor, I'll just re-upload to the google drive to ensure Factorissimo 2 is included.

05:15 <RazorSharpFang> Understood.

05:15 <Cepheid> We understand what must be done now at the start, though. :P

05:16 <Cepheid> Though Razor's a little turbine-happy.

05:16 <RazorSharpFang> In my defense, we needed that many to satisfy the electrolysis.

05:16 <ADragonDreaming> IT's a slow grind

05:16 <ADragonDreaming> but hey, turbines are useful.

05:17 <RazorSharpFang> First thing we should do is take the sand out of the chest and use it all to create a big square.

05:17 <Cepheid> Yeah yeah.  'Scuses 'Scuses.

05:17 <ADragonDreaming> Incorrect!

05:17 <ADragonDreaming> Build the land you need to get crushers

05:17 <ADragonDreaming> and slag

05:17 <ADragonDreaming> and then use the stone to build more sand

05:17 <RazorSharpFang> What else do you use sand for?

05:17 <Cepheid> Land, mostly.  I'm guessing.

05:17 <Schism> Nothin'!  At least not that type of sand.

05:17 <ADragonDreaming> make sure you have the real estate to be able to get more sand

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05:18 <Cepheid> We used a basic square.  It was enough.

05:18 <Schism> Huzzah.  About 300k gil from map runs.

05:18 <ADragonDreaming> and the moment you have assemblers, make even more sand

05:18 <RazorSharpFang> I mean the sand that's supplied in the chest at the start.

05:19 <Cepheid> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CFFnD1KWUC8ktEm5euBYY479f6uMr-JN Updated link.

05:19 <RazorSharpFang> Woohoo.

05:20 <Cepheid> Hold it.

05:20 <Cepheid> I did something stupid.

05:20 <Cepheid> I am not having a good day with getting things done right.

05:20 <ADragonDreaming> oop?

05:21 <Cepheid> Apparently the right-click menu option "Send to ..." adds the files to a pre-existing archive if it exists.

05:21 <Cepheid> Rather than overwriting it like I expected.

05:21 <RazorSharpFang> Yes that's correct, that's the default behaviour.

05:21 <Cepheid> That file still has the problematic mods.

05:21 <Cepheid> I dislike that default behaviour, RazorSharpFang.

05:22 <RazorSharpFang> 7zip's options are "Add to" which is more clear.

05:22 <Cepheid> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yyd7373AwjI06C5U0AOq5dXPv1w3cYNn THIS is the correct archive now.

05:23 <Cepheid> Just need to fix up the server now.

05:23 <Cepheid> ...

05:24 <Cepheid> Bloody hell I'm either hallucinating again or I'm going insane.

05:24 * Schism blinks, and pokes Cepheid with a Spitfire.

05:24 <Cepheid> Every now and then I hear a crowd whispering.  It's not common, but it happens.  I'm hearing it now.

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05:25 <Schism> I sometimes get that too.

05:25 <Cepheid> To be honest the last 24 hours or so have been very weird for me.  Dreams last night were...

05:26 <Cepheid> Come join me on our little island, RazorSharpFang!

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05:34 <Finwe> o3o

05:34 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!

05:34 <Finwe> PO Cepheid, Mr Schism, Miss Filly_Nightmares.

05:34 <Finwe> o7

05:34 * Filly_Nightmares eees at Finwe

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05:40 * Finwe counter-eees at Filly_Nightmares.

05:43 * Filly_Nightmares sits on Finwe face

05:43 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up and eees at Ali

05:44 * Ali squeaks

05:45 <Finwe> Miss Ali.

05:45 * Finwe doffs his Cyan_Spark.

05:56 * Tempest-Shadow applies kissycheeks to ali! >;3

05:58 * Schism boops the Ali! Provides a seablock.

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06:02 <ADragonDreaming> look at this cat: https://i.imgur.com/Fp2a9Nq.jpg

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06:03 <Ali> Cepheid, does any of your cats just flare out the very base of their tail?

06:07 * Filly_Nightmares eees at Finwe

06:07 <Finwe> o3o?

06:08 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Finwe

06:08 <Cepheid> Define "flare out"

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06:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1210 [ http://tinyurl.com/yak4d6om ]

06:09 <ADragonDreaming> Expand Floof

06:09 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up at ADragonDreaming

06:10 <Ali> Cepheid, poofy but she's not aggrivated, she's meowing for attention

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06:13 * Ali pet pets this Firestar pony

06:13 * Firestar snuggles Ali

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06:16 * Firestar noms

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06:19 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

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06:49 <Cepheid> Ali:  Sorry for the late reply.  Anyways, she was spooked by something probably and is crying for you to take care of her.

06:50 * Filly_Nightmares meows

06:50 * Finwe pets Filly_Nightmares.

06:50 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift!

06:50 <Finwe> o7

06:50 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Finwe

06:51 * Schism patpats the ConfusionRift, and then also provides Filly_Nightmares with some tomato soop. Wif cheese.

06:51 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

06:52 * Filly_Nightmares suckles up all da foooood!

06:54 <Finwe> Soop?

06:54 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, you know, tomerto soop.

06:54 <Finwe> Has there been an orthography reform lately?

06:57 <ADragonDreaming> orthergafy?

06:57 * Schism gnaws on Adra's ears. "Behold, oru island."

06:57 <Schism> our.*

06:57 <ADragonDreaming> still GURPSing

06:57 <Schism> Also, that cat above has the most fabulous tail...

06:58 <Schism> Ahh.

06:58 <ADragonDreaming> yes. yes it does

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07:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: My Little Pony Season 8 Episode 9 - Non Compete Clause - Stream / Discussion [ http://tinyurl.com/y8v7efcc ]

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07:27 <Schism> There.  Server is running unchecked, and we have some ore and sand production automated.

07:27 <ConfusionRift> Nice... and now it's on fire.

07:29 <Cepheid> Bugs are all silenced.

07:29 <Cepheid> It's also Seablock.  So they can't reach us anyways.

07:31 <ConfusionRift> Oh... doing that one?

07:32 * ConfusionRift sends a nuke over.

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07:42 * Schism boops Filly_Nightmares with a slice of cheesecake?

07:45 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and curls up around cheesecake!

07:45 <Cepheid> Wonder if I will have another dream about the villain even Twilight Sparkle could never defeat.  Sentient anthropomorphic book.  She would magic people into the story she contained due to madness.  This was invariably fatal as the book is basically about people trying to get through hundreds of death traps.

07:45 <RazorSharpFang> For some reason when I'm tired I lose all motivation to do everything.

07:46 <Cepheid> As for why she was going mad, she could only see the contents of the story by watching others act it out, and she wanted to see the end of the story.  Or at least the story up to a certain point anyway.

07:48 <Cepheid> I'm going to assume page eight or chapter eight.  She seemed distressingly focused on the number eight.  As for why no one reached it, apparently impossible goal.  Some vast desert, with the exit to the trap high high in the sky where no one could reach it.  And touching the sand was mysteriously fatal.  People sank halfway into it and ceased to function.

07:49 <ADragonDreaming> hey Cepheid guess what

07:49 <Cepheid> Hmm?

07:50 <ADragonDreaming> I didn't need to download the drive file to connect to the server :D

07:50 <Cepheid> Not bad.

07:51 <Cepheid> Still for versioning reasons it is probably best this way for the future.

07:51 <ADragonDreaming> yeh

07:52 <Cepheid> Anyhoo.  I know dreams are supposedly the result of the brain consolidating information from the day... Or something involving my mother, according to one maniac, but that leaves me wondering...

07:52 <Cepheid> What in the almighty heavens am I doing during the day to spawn dreams like that?

07:55 <Schism> Good question...

07:56 <ADragonDreaming> ah yes, server lag. I remember why I stopped regular multiplayer factorio.

07:58 <Cepheid> It probably isn't helped at all by it being on WiFi now.

07:59 <ADragonDreaming> probably not. fortunately, on seablock, I don't need awesome reaction time

07:59 <Schism> Indeed.  Seablock is a much more relaxed affair.

08:00 <Cepheid> Someone posted a picture of a rice cooker and a cat.

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08:00 <Schism> I don't get it.

08:00 <Cepheid> Apparently the cat though the rice cooker was a litter box.

08:00 <Cepheid> Because granules indicating litter box.

08:01 <Schism> Ohboy.

08:03 <Cepheid> Long story short, if you own a cat and a rice cooker, watch the rice cooker carefully.  Cats can confuse one for a litter box.

08:05 <Cepheid> Anyway sleep now buhbye oh gods nightmares.

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08:12 <ConfusionRift> Laters, and have a good one.

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08:21 * ConfusionRift notices the bugs aren't really... bugging him.

08:21 <ConfusionRift> Okay, hold on...

08:30 * ConfusionRift walks up to one, and pets it.

08:30 <ConfusionRift> I think I have creative on... darn it!

08:31 <ConfusionRift> Well, peaceful mode.

08:31 <ConfusionRift> So my early anxiety mess was for nothing.

09:07 <Schism> "Look, is it /my/ problem if you people can't appreciate the wonders of pineapple on pizza?"

09:09 <RazorSharpFang> We will make it your problem.

09:10 <ConfusionRift> Bleck. (Actually, I don't mind it.)

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09:36 <ConfusionRift> It's a preference thing. Some like plain cheese, others pepperoni, others Louisiana sauce as pizza sauce with American cheese as topping, and some like to put ketchup on their pizza.

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09:43 <ConfusionRift> Gonna try to get a good sleep. Laters.

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09:54 <Finwe> o3o

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10:26 <Fn> 030

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10:33 <Fn> https://anondoodily.deviantart.com/art/Keep-Human-Lyra-290347669

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16:01 <Thelema5> hello everypony

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16:25 <filly`coco> Hay

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16:36 <DashedRainbows> what's up?

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16:54 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, not much.  Just watching SU response videos

16:54 <Thelema5> *reaction

16:56 <Thelema5> The last episode was a massive reveal aking to "Luke, I am your father"

16:56 <Thelema5> *akin

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17:10 <ADragonDreaming> The line is "No, I am your father."

17:14 <Thelema5> That's not true!  That's impossible!

17:22 <Nuclear> I just tested my phone's Internet speed: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399368327371423756/444910689723613184/Screenshot_20180512-101556_Speedtest.jpg

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17:54 <DashedRainbows> Thelema5: I was drawing, cool

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19:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Cutie Map Fail / Hipster / Shadows 23 / Betrayal 8 / Pone Wars 5:23 / Arrival 34 [ http://tinyurl.com/yaqw3enn ]

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19:31 <PinkieShy> My free samples of Truvia sweetener came today :)

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19:48 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story Updates -  [ http://tinyurl.com/y7ewz85f ]

19:52 <Finwe> o3o

19:53 <Finwe> Finland is showing Canada how you play ice hockey, in an important World Cup match.

19:53 * Finwe noms on Filly_Nightmares.

19:53 * Filly_Nightmares is sad floof

19:53 <Finwe> :(

19:53 <Saerydoth> there's a trop for that

19:54 <Saerydoth> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LukeIAmYourFather

19:54 <Saerydoth> oh not for that

19:54 * Saerydoth hugs Filly_Nightmares

19:54 <Finwe> Why so sad?

19:54 <Saerydoth> oh wait that's not the right trope

19:54 <Saerydoth> this is the right trope

19:54 <Saerydoth> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeamMeUpScotty

19:54 * Finwe patpathugs Filly_Nightmares.

19:55 * Filly_Nightmares keeps getting yelled at and insulted by her family when she doesn't do the best in something

19:55 * Saerydoth hugs Filly_Nightmares

19:55 * Filly_Nightmares doesn't like being at home because she has to be cautious instead of relaxing

19:56 * Saerydoth cuddles Filly_Nightmares

19:56 <Saerydoth> yeah I moved out at age 19, never went back

19:57 <Saerydoth> I'm not very close with my family

19:57 <Finwe> We should strive to do our best, but nopony is perfect.

19:58 <Saerydoth> yep

19:58 <Thelema5> Saerydoth, same here.  I see my father once a year

19:58 * Filly_Nightmares performs worse when she is sad. It keeps feeding on itself

19:58 <Finwe> Saerydoth: Me too, except that I spent the year prior to that in the army.

19:58 * Thelema5 huggles finwe

19:59 * Saerydoth hugs Filly_Nightmares until no more sads

19:59 <Finwe> And I do visit my mother, sister and grandmother every now and then.

19:59 <Finwe> They're my only remaining close relatives.

19:59 <Thelema5> Finwe, have you brewed anything of note recently?

20:00 <Finwe> Thelema5: I have a batch of Bavarian wheat beer fermenting just now.

20:00 <Thelema5> OOoh, that sounds lovely

20:01 <Finwe> I do like that style.

20:04 * ADragonDreaming nibbles on Cepheid and Schism

20:07 * Cepheid awakens.

20:07 <Cepheid> Stop that.

20:07 * Cepheid falls back asleep.

20:08 <Finwe> We are really showing the Canadians.

20:08 <Finwe> 5-1 for Finland now.

20:08 <Cepheid> What game?

20:09 * Finwe is watching Ice Hockey World Championships.

20:09 <Cepheid> Ah.

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20:40 <Finwe> And we beat the Canadians 5 to 1.

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21:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Community Soapbox #97 - Formulaic Episodes Getting Boring, Twilight's Ascension, and TOP BAT [ http://tinyurl.com/yc8hsdot ]

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21:16 <PinkieShy> As much parts i am collecting from repairing this PC.. like adapters and such..

21:17 <PinkieShy> I could probably resell it as used to much a quick dolllar..

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22:14 <Thelema5> DOOO IT.  Just... do it!  Nothing is impossible.  Don't let you're dreams be dreams.  Doo it!

22:18 * PinkieShy licks thelema5

22:23 * Thelema5 tastes bitter

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22:55 <Thelema5> I wish Cheese Sandwich would make another appearance on MLP

22:59 <Tempest-Shadow> I think that he's probably unlikely given the original writer doesn't even work there anymore

22:59 <Tempest-Shadow> nobody is gonna take that on

23:05 <Cepheid> Cat.  Is there not a single cable you havent chewed on in this bedroom of mine?

23:08 <Thelema5> Why doesn't Sia show her face?

23:08 <ADragonDreaming> Sia?

23:10 <Thelema5> The pop star who played Songbird Serenade in the MLP movie

23:11 <Thelema5> She also had several massive hits including https://youtu.be/2vjPBrBU-TM

23:12 <Thelema5> She doesn't give face to face interviews

23:12 <Thelema5> (yes, that 1.8 billion views)

23:15 <Thelema5> For the record, the dancer in that video is Maddie Ziegler, not the Sia

23:23 <Thelema5> Maddie Ziegler is freaking incredible in her own right, of course

23:25 <Thelema5> Here she is sparring with Shia Lebouf, in another Sia video https://youtu.be/KWZGAExj-es

23:26 <Cepheid> Thelema5:  When your face is known to the public, you tend to get swarmed by fans.

23:26 <Cepheid> Especially if you're popular.

23:26 <Cepheid> Some people don't like this.

23:26 <Cepheid> Which is why I assume the artists behind Daft Punk do the same.

23:26 <Thelema5> I guess that makes sense...

23:27 <Thelema5> But when you have more than a billion fans?

23:27 <Cepheid> I would prefer to stay anonymous in appearance.

23:28 <Tempest-Shadow> Yeah, some folks get way too anxious about that

23:28 <Cepheid> I have a life outside of what I do for a living, if I somehow became popular for my work, assuming any of it ever gets out, I would not want people going "HEY!  It's <INSERT NAME HERE>!"

23:28 <Tempest-Shadow> Fame, despite the perks, is not without some drawbacks and cons

23:28 <Cepheid> Look at what it did to Notch.

23:28 <Cepheid> It happens in every bloody field.

23:29 <Tempest-Shadow> I mean the MLP writers get swarmed with hate mail over things like twilicorn, starlight, etc - and they're just writers for a kids show

23:29 <Thelema5> Well Maddie Ziegler is an amazing beast

23:29 <Cepheid> The problem is that people are crazy.

23:29 <Cepheid> And dangerous.

23:29 <Cepheid> Combine the two, and it's a nightmare.

23:29 <Thelema5> Yeah

23:30 <Cepheid> Anyways, I ordered my parts, so I'm going back to cleaning.  If you're wondering, two case fans and an HDMI splitter.

23:30 <Cepheid> Well, switch.

23:30 <Cepheid> I have multiple devices hooked up via HDMI, and it's a bit of a pain to constantly reach behind and switch them out when I want to use one or the other, so..

23:36 <Cepheid> I have the observational skills of a moron today.  Did I consume the wrong medication for the last few days?  I just canceled the order a second time to get the right parts in the list. =.=;

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23:36 <Cepheid> I feel sorry for the people at the warehouse.  "Okay he ordered this, this and-  And he canceled the order and placed a new one.  So he ordered this, th-  DANGIT MAN!"

23:37 <Thelema5> So yeah, this is what I mean about sia... she even performs behind a curtain on live network TV.  That's beyond trying to stay out of the spotlight... if you don't want the limelight, why accept showslike this? https://youtu.be/XwyjzTK4RzI

23:38 <Thelema5> It seems almost like a shtick at that level

23:40 <Thelema5> Of course Maddie is more than charismatic for the two of them

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23:51 <ADragonDreaming> Thelema5: one accepts the shows in order to make the money

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23:51 <ADragonDreaming> one hides one's face in order to maintain as much privacy as possible...

23:51 <ADragonDreaming> and yes, it DOES aid marketing.

23:51 <ADragonDreaming> There's mystery, see

23:51 <ADragonDreaming> Effective mystery, as evidenced by your own inquisitiveness regarding it.

23:52 <Thelema5> True enough

23:55 <ADragonDreaming> hm. There is some insight into it here:

23:55 <ADragonDreaming> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sia_(musician)

23:56 <ADragonDreaming> "For live performances of songs from 1000 Forms of Fear, Sia chose not to show her face, either facing away from audiences or hiding it behind oversized platinum blonde wigs.... 'Sia explained to Kristen Wiig in an interview in Interview magazine that she decided to conceal her face to avoid a celebrity lifestyle and maintain some privacy: "I'm try

23:56 <ADragonDreaming> ing to have some control over my image. And I'm allowed to maintain some modicum of privacy. But also I would like not to be picked apart or for people to observe when I put on ten pounds or take off ten pounds or I have a hair extension out of place or my fake tan is botched. Most people don't have to be under that pressure, and I'd like to be one

23:56 <ADragonDreaming> of them."'

23:57 <Cepheid> So my understanding was correct.

23:57 <Thelema5> Makes sense

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