Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2018-08-07

00:00 <Schism> Hmm.  so, Cepheid.  Rathalos will have no in-combat healing, no floor indicators, nothing of the sort.  Just a big dragon waving its wings and then someone dies.

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00:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Get-Out Claus / Sunny / Wise Apple / Reality 68 / I Done? 3:30 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9c5ourw ]

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00:16 <Jon-The_Bronynerd> !seen The_Nostalgia_Mare

00:16 <DerpyBot> Jon-The_Bronynerd: Silly filly, your eyes are all derpy. The_Nostalgia_Mare is in the channel.

00:16 <Jon-The_Bronynerd> I dun get it

00:18 <Jon-The_Bronynerd> DerpyBot is derpy

00:22 * Ali pokes Jon-The_Bronynerd

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00:22 <Ali> Now there's a nick I haven't seen in awhile :P

00:23 <Jon-The_Bronynerd> Yee

00:24 <SunsetShimmer> o3o Well den

00:24 <Jon-The_Bronynerd> DerpyBot was being silly, thinking that user's in the channel, but somehow, it's not there in that said channel

00:25 <Jon-The_Bronynerd> But ye, glad you still remember me, Ali :P

00:25 <Ali> Jon-The_Bronynerd, probably cause D is on

00:25 <SunsetShimmer> x3

00:25 * Jon-The_Bronynerd nodnods

00:25 <Ali> There's been a ton of spambots recently so there's been a flood of join/quit

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00:51 <Jon-The_Bronynerd> Ali: I noticed

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01:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Gameloft MLP Game Adds More Dragons  [ http://tinyurl.com/y7k9gdaw ]

01:07 <SunsetShimmer> Talk about dragging it on a bit. :3

01:08 <Ali> Ba dum Tish

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01:14 * Jon-The_Bronynerd snickers a bit. Still the same ol' Ali

01:22 <SunsetShimmer> She's still as adorable as ever. ;3

01:23 <ADragonDreaming> So very cute.

01:27 <SunsetShimmer> Is twu! x3

01:27 * Ali ish not CUTE

01:27 * SunsetShimmer cuddles at dat mare! xD

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01:33 <Jon-The_Bronynerd> Well, she's still caring, really!

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01:41 <PinkieShy> omg omg omg omg

01:41 <PinkieShy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmfPB20Ln4 :D steven universe the movie teaser.

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02:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1522 [ http://tinyurl.com/yaz8mnxq ]

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02:18 <Thelema5> Hello everypony

02:22 <PinkieShy> I had a dream last night of a person that I can't talk to no more.. He was trying to say sorry in the dream.

02:22 <Thelema5> Seems sad

02:23 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 I can't talk to them no more.. due to a cease and desist lol

02:23 <PinkieShy> I did the cease and desist to him.. legal reasons..

02:23 <PinkieShy> That's all i can say.

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02:43 <PinkieShy> ..

02:43 <PinkieShy> I have a new love for the state of South Carolina lol

02:45 <Schism> Whyso?

02:48 <PinkieShy> Its just awesome that's why xD

02:48 <PinkieShy> South Carolina is love D:

02:48 <PinkieShy> * :D

02:48 <Schism> I hope that is in fact the case.

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03:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Austraila Continues It's Early Release Schedule with Episode 20 "The Washouts" on August 19th [ http://tinyurl.com/yc25f4cp ]

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03:36 <DashedRainbows> hmm

03:36 <DashedRainbows> how is the Thelema5?

03:36 <Thelema5> Meh.  You?

03:37 <DashedRainbows> meh

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03:48 <Thelema5> I'm suddenly craving bananas

03:57 <Schism> Now, so do I.  But not merely bananas.

03:57 <Schism> Bananas, fried with butter and brown sugar, and served atop buttermilk pancakes.

03:58 <Schism> With vanilla ice cream.

03:58 <Thelema5> Yum.

03:58 <Thelema5> Closest I can get to that right now is a vanilla protein shake

04:03 <Thelema5> So funny story, I needed to source a vegan worchestershire sauce and found a good candidate called "Wan Ja Shan" which I assumed to be an exotic asian import.  Ordered it online, and received it a week later. Looked at the label: Produced in Middletown, NY.  About a 45 minute drive from me.

04:03 <Thelema5> Doh!

04:05 <Thelema5> The upside is that it's rather tasty and was inexpensive.

04:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: EnsionD - Open Skies (feat. Evdog) [Francis Vace 2018 Cover] [Rock/Reggae] [ http://tinyurl.com/y9gp43b7 ]

04:09 <Thelema5> Sooo, it's probably not a good sign when your psychologist refers you to a psychiatrist and says "please, I strongly urge you to make an appointment this week".

04:10 <DashedRainbows> damn

04:10 * DashedRainbows hugs Thelema5

04:10 * Thelema5 thanksie

04:14 <Thelema5> That's like a tech support escalation

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04:22 <Schism> Oh, Thelema5, did you catch that blog link from yesterday?

04:22 <Thelema5> Nuh uh

04:22 <Schism> Here ya go.  https://upstatedispatch.com/

04:23 <Thelema5> I was too taken aback by the news about partic stewart reprising Jean-Luc Picard

04:23 <Thelema5> *patrick

04:23 <Schism> Well, this might be worth following, nevertheless.

04:24 <Thelema5> "Centerville.  A real nice place to raise your kids!"

04:25 <Thelema5> Sorry, random Zappa reference

04:25 <Schism> X3  Well, it's not like your slice of neck-of-the-woods is any better.

04:25 <Thelema5> Not much

04:26 <Schism> But they're only a few hundred miles away from you, so it seemed the sort of blog you'd like to follow.

04:28 <Schism> With posts like this.  https://upstatedispatch.com/2018/07/mushroom-hunting/

04:28 <Thelema5> Schism, not even that far.  Maybe 30-50 miles.  I'm trying to locate an address

04:28 <Schism> Hee.  o3o

04:29 <Schism> So's you can go hiking with them?

04:29 <Thelema5> I'm reading hiking reports from trails I've covered in my youtube channel.  So yep.

04:30 <Thelema5> Seems like they're up in the "Great" northern catskills, which is becoming a hipster hotbed.  I'm about 30 miles south.

04:30 <Thelema5> Still, same mountains, same trails.

04:31 <Thelema5> Same culture, really.

04:32 <Schism> Same mushrooms.

04:32 <Schism> And undoubtedly many of the same bees.

04:33 * Thelema5 nods

04:33 <Schism> It definitely seems like you'd connect with 'em.

04:33 * Thelema5 agrees!

04:34 * Schism is glad to provide a chain link. o3o

04:34 <Thelema5> Thanskie!

04:35 * Thelema5 has a strange song in his head, something from the 90's or early 2000's...

04:35 <Schism> Don't thank me until you manage to go kayakin' with 'em.  Or something.  Oh?

04:35 <Thelema5> From some one-hit-wonder

04:35 <Schism> Any lyrics?

04:35 * Thelema5 is digging deep

04:36 <Filly_Nightmares> A file has been shared using Link Sharing.

04:36 <Filly_Nightmares> https://s.amsu.ng/xodH5ho4byPN

04:36 <Filly_Nightmares> (Expires: Aug 8, 2018)

04:36 <Filly_Nightmares> Oopsies

04:36 <Filly_Nightmares> I'm in a plane right now though!

04:36 <Filly_Nightmares> I'm in California and spotted a fire!

04:36 <Thelema5> AH!  Here it is:

04:36 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/jJo0MT3wDBs

04:36 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

04:36 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Harvey Danger - Flagpole Sitta [1997] - I'm Not Sick But I'm Not Well!

04:36 <Schism> Gmnfs!  

04:37 * Schism boops Filly_Nightmares. Since she is in a plane... he offers Filly_Nightmares some tomato juice and vodka and spices and horseradish and black pepper and nom!

04:37 * Filly_Nightmares nomfs it!

04:37 * Filly_Nightmares nomfs the nom and noms Schism!

04:37 * Schism falls out of the plane.

04:38 * Filly_Nightmares purrs

04:38 * DashedRainbows gives Thelema5 a pony ride since he's broken

04:38 <Thelema5> I'm guessing the latent song memory was jogged by my referral today

04:39 <Thelema5> Thanksie DashedRainbows

04:40 <DashedRainbows> y'know the referral could also mean you have a lazy psychologist

04:41 <Thelema5> Could be, DashedRainbows

04:41 <Thelema5> He seems sincere, though

04:41 <Thelema5> Filly_Nightmares, much of california is in flames right now

04:42 * DashedRainbows sticks Thelema5 under a magnifying glass, interesting

04:42 <Thelema5> Exactly

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04:42 <Filly_Nightmares> Eee

04:43 <Schism> Yes, much of California is under a magnifying glass.

04:43 <Schism> The result is kind of terrifying.

04:44 <Thelema5> Yah

04:47 <Filly_Nightmares> Just landed!

04:47 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o

04:47 <Filly_Nightmares> I is happy

04:47 <Filly_Nightmares> I was actually starting to physically feel sick from all the car exhaust and smoke I inhaled

04:47 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o

04:47 * Schism provides Filly_Nightmares wif... well, she just got into California. He gives the filly a California roll.

04:47 * Filly_Nightmares rolls into it and absorps it!

04:48 * Schism also provides a hug, and then dissolves into floof.

04:48 <Thelema5> Filly_Nightmares, yay!  God you got there safely.

04:48 <Thelema5> *glad

04:48 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o

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04:50 * Schism skreeeeeeyawns, and curls upon the couch to dream of odd stories.

04:51 <Schism> <Surry> If you give me foodstuffs, I'll turn them into floof for craftin'!

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04:52 <Filly_Nightmares> o4o

04:52 * Filly_Nightmares gnaws on Schism

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05:18 <DashedRainbows> /me sighs

05:18 <DashedRainbows> Meeeehhh

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05:22 <DashedRainbows> Night

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06:18 <PinkieShy> Schism you there.

06:19 <RazorSharpFang> Heyas everyone

06:22 <PinkieShy> RazorSharpFang

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06:22 * Schism fills up a glass of ice. Fills up an ice cube tray. Puts ice cube tray into freezer. Returns to find glass of ice water half-melted. "..."

06:23 <RazorSharpFang> Hey, PinkieShy

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06:23 <PinkieShy> Do you think its worth keeping this PC thats MSRP is only really $779 which the final pay off would be $2000?

06:23 <RazorSharpFang> I don't know what MSRP?

06:23 <Schism> It's good to have confirmation that I'm actually in a Mel Blanc production.

06:23 <PinkieShy> the $2000 is aarons lease agreement fees and everything added together.

06:24 <PinkieShy> Schism is it a waste of money you think the real price this PC is worth is only that much.

06:24 <Schism> Did we not warn you, way ahead of time, that this would be exactly the case?  No, best to buy a device in and of itself.

06:24 <PinkieShy> What does that mean tho

06:24 <Schism> Further, the box itself will depreciate over time, so that by the time you're done paying that off, it'll only be worth $400.

06:25 <PinkieShy> Schism HP only put a 300w psu in this machine.

06:25 <Schism> Throw it back.

06:25 <Schism> Call it a learning experience and just return the cursed thing.

06:26 <Schism> Frankly, putting an $800 MSRP on a box with a 300w PSU is an insult in and of itself.

06:27 <RazorSharpFang> I still don't know what MSRP is

06:27 <Schism> And when Cepheid wakes up in 10 minutes from heatstroke, he'll back me up.

06:27 <Schism> Manufacturer's suggested retail price.

06:27 <RazorSharpFang> Hrmm.

06:27 <RazorSharpFang> And you're leasing a <$800 item?

06:28 <Schism> They're leasing a $500 item at $800 with an APR of 25%.

06:29 <Schism> Throw.  The damned.  Thing.  Back.

06:29 <RazorSharpFang> I don't get leasing products if you're not a large-scale business.

06:30 <PinkieShy> Schism no its not 25% apr

06:30 <PinkieShy> If you calculate the MSRP value they list

06:30 <Schism> No, it's higher.  THROW. THE BOX. BACK.

06:30 <PinkieShy> and their leasing fees and more..

06:30 <PinkieShy> Its 90% apr

06:30 <Schism> Give it back!  Give it back!  Before you get stuck with it, GIVE IT BACK!

06:30 <RazorSharpFang> 300W isn't much.

06:30 <Schism> 300w isn't crap!

06:31 <RazorSharpFang> Might cause problems with trying to browse the web on a CLI

06:31 <Schism> Might cause problems opening the command prompt in safe mode.

06:33 <Schism> I can build you a machine with a 750w PSU and half decent video card, AMD processor which is at least viable, 8GB working ram, 250GB HDD and a viable Windows 8.1 OEM install for $800.  You are looking at an $800 TOASTER which you're going to pay $2000 for.  RETURN THE THING!

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06:34 <Schism> And further, that box you've got will break down in 18 months, guaranteed!

06:35 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Fiesta SEAPonyCon introduces Spirit Tickets [ http://tinyurl.com/y8uq2xzn ]

06:36 <PinkieShy> Schism for the price of the final pay off

06:36 <PinkieShy> a Nvidia 1080 ti intel i7 machine would be the equal lol

06:40 <RazorSharpFang> So return it, don't pay, and grab a better machine

06:42 <Schism> That.  THAT, right there.

06:42 <Schism> Get that damned albatross away, right this very instant.

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06:44 <Schism> I might sound a little bit hyper when I point out that you've been suckered into a bad deal, but I am very very very serious PinkieShy.

06:44 <Schism> You can go down to a CVS Pharmacy and get a better LAPTOP for about half that.

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06:45 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.... what's going on?

06:46 <Schism> PinkieShy got taken for a ride, we're convincing them to pack the damned thing right back up.

06:46 <ConfusionRift> What exactly though?

06:46 <Schism> An $800 piece of metal and plastic which has a 300w PSU.

06:47 * ConfusionRift spittakes.

06:47 <Schism> And a 90% APR.

06:48 <ConfusionRift> Question. Is this from one of them rental centers?

06:48 <Schism> You have a keen eye, sir.  Yes.

06:50 <ConfusionRift> The point of those are so you can build credit faster, and to get something immediately, while being able to make payments for it. Alas, NOTHING they offer is at a good price or within good quality. For this, they compensate by charging you a stupid premium. For the most part, one pays 25% to 100% more than just saving and buying it later.

06:51 <ConfusionRift> Of course, elsewhere.

06:51 <PinkieShy> schism one thing to the tower doesn't feel all plastic.

06:51 <PinkieShy> err it don't feel plastic.

06:51 <PinkieShy> It feels all metal lol

06:51 <Schism> Aluminium is cheap.

06:51 <Schism> PinkieShy: You're not stupid, please don't take this as any claim that you might be.  These people prey upon those in need.  But honest to goodness.  Head to a CVS if you need a throwaway box.  They'll give you a craptop for $300 or thereabouts which works as a general surfing and playing device.

06:52 <PinkieShy> I need something that does VRCHAT

06:52 <Schism> In honest fact, a cheapo aluminium or sheet metal box is maybe $2 to manufacture.

06:52 <PinkieShy> I love that game so much.. I don't want to go without it lol

06:53 <ConfusionRift> My cheapo chinesium tower case cost me $20, and it's metal sheeting. Terrible quality, but durable.

06:53 <Schism> So's long as it has enough space that there's some airflow in there, you don't need anything special.

06:54 <Schism> PinkieShy.  ... if that 300w box does VRChat, I will be not only surprised, but amply dismayed.

06:54 <ConfusionRift> I can't put any large GPUs.

06:54 <ConfusionRift> It has to be a compact one, which cost more.

06:55 <Schism> CR: If you play your cards right, though, you can put a Gamecube or three in there.

06:56 * ConfusionRift patpats his PC. "I was able to fit a GTX1050ti, but goodness is it a tight fit.

06:56 <Schism> TI branch, that'll work for ya.  Yee, tho.

06:56 <RazorSharpFang> Is it a security risk for users to see their own (and only their own) password hash?

06:56 <Schism> Yes.

06:56 <RazorSharpFang> Run me through the logic for that, if you can

06:57 <ConfusionRift> It's not hardware breaking, but it leaves with a desire for more room.

06:57 <Schism> It's probably a minute one, if that, but it's still a security risk, because any piece of information you give to the client or make publicly available is in and of itself a security risk.

06:57 <Schism> They don't need to see their password hash.  Therefore, don't give it to them.

06:58 <RazorSharpFang> Ah yes, the classic rule - minimal everything, do-not-trust, etc.

06:58 <Schism> Precisely.  And yeah, I'm paranoid.

06:59 <ConfusionRift> In any case. VRCHAT requires as minimum an i5-4590 (funny, it's what I got) or FX 8350, 4GB of RAM, a GTX970 or Radeon R9 290, and a relatively strong connection.

07:00 <Schism> Also, one of the rules of cryptography is that your encryption is never as strong as you think it is.

07:02 <Schism> Aaand also never trust that the client displays the password hash to only the user.

07:03 <Schism> Plain and simple, you never, ever, ever trust a client.

07:03 <Schism> This may not be relevant.

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07:05 <Schism> Come to think, why would you... even... kind of break the whole point of hashing by showing it publicly?

07:06 * Schism is looking at this discussion and just... what...?

07:06 <Schism> I'm sorry, I must be more tired than I thought, because now I'm just staring.

07:06 <PinkieShy> schism it is able to do vrchat

07:07 <PinkieShy> with ease

07:07 <Schism> Sounds like VRChat isn't all that big an issue to run then.

07:07 <PinkieShy> well it requires a lot lol

07:07 <ConfusionRift> I just mentioned it.

07:07 <Schism> But honestly.  PinkieShy?  Return that damned thing, go to a pharmacy or a Walmart or something, get a freaking laptop.

07:07 <PinkieShy> They recommend at least FX 8350 with r9

07:08 <Schism> That minimum spec sounds like they're overhyping things.

07:08 <Schism> But you can almost certainly pick up SOME box or another which doesn't require you to pay $2,000 for a piece of time-delayed slag.

07:09 <Schism> I'll all but guarantee you that the PC they sent you is ticking like a bomb.

07:09 <Schism> (Or maybe a Geiger counter.)

07:09 * ConfusionRift nods.

07:09 <ConfusionRift> What were the specs?

07:10 <luckyspirit> Uranium Fever!

07:11 <Schism> ... Recommended 8350?  Seriously?  I'm running an 8320 and I have a sneaking suspicion that I could outpace anything VRChat throws at me -- if it were on an engine which has any optimization whatsoever.

07:13 * ConfusionRift shrugs.

07:13 <Schism> This of course throws Minecraft, VRChat and Second Life out the window, because they have clients which could maybe possibly be called well-written if you looked at them in a dim light through a foggy telescope from Venus.

07:13 <Schism> ... sorry, I'm kinda salty tonight.

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07:15 * ConfusionRift gives Schism some candy. :P

07:15 <ConfusionRift> Have to level that intake a bit.

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07:15 * Schism turns it into saltwater taffy. Then noms.

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07:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Newbie Artist Training Grounds VIII: Day 15 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybsdktdp ]

07:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: It's Time to Celebrate the Magic of Friendship! - Twilight Day Begins [ http://tinyurl.com/ya6hqwpn ]

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07:46 <Schism> (Also some oxygen.)

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07:53 * Sleeping_Nightmares sleepies on Schism and purrs

07:53 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Nini

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07:55 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Newbie Artist Training Grounds VIII: Day 15 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybsdktdp ]

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08:55 <Schism> Well.  I am so glad that I took the time to have a conversation with my brother, who believes that Alex Jones should not be removed from a website and that the question of whether the world is flat should be solved via debate.

09:01 <Schism> And that if I argue, I should be punched in the face.

09:03 <ConfusionRift> Heh.

09:09 <Schism> I wish I were making things up.

09:10 <ConfusionRift> Wait... had the re-read that... huh?!

09:11 <Schism> The idea of objective reality is now a political debate.

09:11 <ConfusionRift> Everything nowadays is a political debate.

09:12 <Schism> And that people are actively being harmed by ignorance of germ theory is something for the scholars.

09:14 <Schism> Now, I deserve a slap upside the head and more, but I am mildly disconcerted by the idea that it might be brought about by political debate rather than a disagreement over something more tangible.

09:15 <Schism> And rather more disconcerted that he believes that objective reality is a political point.

09:15 <ConfusionRift> "Just do this real quick. Go ahead and take a vacation to Hawaii. Once done, instead of heading back, go right away to Japan. If you need to take an obscene number of scales and take you a week to get there, then they were right. Otherwise, shut up and face the facts."

09:16 <Schism> He would insist the scales were in his imagination, and that the timeframe was simply a long nap.

09:16 <ConfusionRift> Oh, those kind of people.

09:16 <Schism> I am no longer convinced of his ability to perform basic mathematics.

09:17 <Schism> And this depresses me, because he's my brother and I want to think the best of him.

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09:20 <Schism> In happier imagery: https://twitter.com/DrFelici_/status/1026488764812730368

09:21 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe. "I have made a life long mistake."

09:21 <Schism> Especially that one above.  "Raaaar!"

09:22 <ConfusionRift> "Rawr rawr rawr rawr!" | (sighs)

09:23 <Schism> And then there's my day.  https://twitter.com/DrFelici_/status/916952789057720322

09:24 <ConfusionRift> Yep, sounds about right.

09:24 <Schism> Glrr.

09:25 <Schism> From a year ago, this is also a thing.  https://twitter.com/DrFelici_/status/895242734059081728

09:25 <ConfusionRift> "Wow, I can't believe it's the end of the week. How time flies." | "Eeerm... you do know it's Monday, right?" | "Eerh... uuuh... oh, so tired... (yawns) Wake me up on Saturday."

09:26 <Schism> "It's Tuesday, now." "If you wake me up now, I will punch a hole through so many walls." "... go back to sleep." "Thank you."

09:27 <Schism> This is almost a joke.

09:27 <ConfusionRift> You know, there's a book I started and never finished... like most things. But hey, maybe I should get back to it. ...get back to it... back to it... back to it... to it... On second thought, never mind.

09:28 <ConfusionRift> Schism: It kinda is. :P

09:29 <Schism> It... no.  It really isn't.

09:29 <RazorSharpFang> Objectivity as found through rational thought is a western and masculine concept, Schism according to a sizable chunk of academics.

09:30 <Schism> The idea of a person as being the epitome of humanity itself, yeah.  It generally tends to be masculine in concept, incapable of being surpassed and therefore incapable of spawning another greater than itself.

09:30 <RazorSharpFang> They say that all evidence is arbitrary claims to power.

09:30 <Schism> "My viewpoint is bigger than yours."

09:30 * ConfusionRift sighs at this.

09:31 <RazorSharpFang> There's a textbook you could read more about this. It's called "Race, Class, and Gender" but I don't remember the author.

09:31 <Schism> My punching through like six walls is not a paean to masculinity or anything.  It's me saying that I will put my fist through six pieces of drywall.

09:31 <Schism> They do not have to be in sequential order.

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09:35 <ConfusionRift> Race, Class, & Gender: An Anthology; by blah blah blah. Why does this book's synopsis remind me of that stupid Social Engineering 101 book?

09:36 <Schism> Probably because its whole basis is in how to understand people, a subject which defies explanation.

09:36 <ConfusionRift> Woooooooooow, the FIRST comment on the book was RazorSharpFang's quote.

09:36 * Schism stares.

09:36 <RazorSharpFang> I wasn't joking.

09:36 <RazorSharpFang> They really believe this.

09:37 <ConfusionRift> [“Objectivity as found through rational thought is a western and masculine concept that we will challenge through this text“, page 14. This is pretty much how one defines insanity, isn’t it?]

09:37 <RazorSharpFang> They question the definition of evidence - they say that all hierarchies are predicated on power, and power alone.

09:37 <RazorSharpFang> So, all evidence is is arbitrary claims to power.

09:37 <RazorSharpFang> There's nothing objective about anything in evidence according to them.

09:38 <Schism> I'm sorry, I think my left eyebrow has just shot up towards the stratosphere.

09:38 * ConfusionRift gives Schism a replacement one.

09:38 <RazorSharpFang> You should look up auto ethnography - which is basically the publication of anecdotal evidence in an otherwise reputable academic journal.

09:38 <Schism> Objective reality is something which doesn't behave differently when different people look at it.

09:38 <ConfusionRift> Don't worry. I got spare. This has been happening waaaay too often.

09:39 <RazorSharpFang> Schism, there's a paper that unironically claims that mathematics is whiteness, fwiw.

09:39 <Schism> Am I crazy?  If everyone else thinks it works one way, and I think it works a different way, and my way depends on different people looking at it, am I the crazy one?

09:40 * Schism gibbers.

09:40 <RazorSharpFang> There's nothing illogical about their claims - it all stems from their axioms.

09:40 <RazorSharpFang> They just pick very odd axioms.

09:40 <Schism> Can they disprove those axioms?

09:40 <Schism> No, wait, wrong question.  Have they ever /tried/ to disprove those axioms?

09:40 <RazorSharpFang> No, you can't disprove these axioms - not in the formal sense.

09:40 <Schism> Then... what use are they?

09:41 <RazorSharpFang> They provide a framework with which to view the world.

09:41 <Schism> They're obviously not logical and they have little basis for comparison with others.

09:41 <Schism> I suppose they have a basis for comparison with themselves.

09:42 <RazorSharpFang> It's all based on critical theory - marxist analysis.

09:42 <Schism> Please, do continue.

09:43 <RazorSharpFang> That sounds like it's sarcastic.

09:43 <Schism> Only halfway.  I'm interested in seeing the chain of logic.  I'm less interested in seeing to where it leads.

09:43 <ConfusionRift> ^

09:44 <RazorSharpFang> Okay, are you familiar with Dialectical materialism ?

09:44 <ConfusionRift> That's like the only "logical" traverse I see for all of this.

09:44 <Schism> I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the nature of reality is based on how we ourselves define it.

09:45 <Schism> As a definition of the ideological thought pattern you just put forth.

09:45 <RazorSharpFang> Something along those lines - gist is, is that the most real thing is power.

09:46 <RazorSharpFang> Not in the terms of J/s or W, but power over others.

09:46 <Schism> As Xykon put it, 'Power is power -- and sometimes, power takes the form of a +6 racial bonus to Listen checks.'

09:46 <Schism> So, okay.  Whether or not you can adjust how other people see the world.

09:47 <RazorSharpFang> Now, since power is the most real thing, that means that all evidence is are claims to power.

09:47 <Schism> And here's where I start to scream.

09:47 <RazorSharpFang> So, by challenging evidence, they're challenging what they view as arbitrary claims to power.

09:48 * ConfusionRift rubs his forehead.

09:48 <Schism> This becomes a little bit frightening when you look at organized religion.

09:49 <RazorSharpFang> I've not yet found any religions that operate based on those principles, fwiw.

09:49 <Schism> Discordianism seems to work based thereupon.

09:50 <Schism> Its purpose is of course a counteraction, discarding all power which such a social idea would otherwise give.

09:50 <RazorSharpFang> Also, since these folk are marxist, they think that since all positions in hierarchies are founded upon arbitrary claims to power, that all hierarchies should be inverted, and this would be just.

09:52 <Schism> Meanwhile, in Discordianism, all hierachies should be inverted as a matter of course, and therefore arbitary claims to power are perfectly justified, made moreso by the amount of effort put into these claims.

09:52 <Schism> Except when they're not.

09:55 <Schism> And so, by and by, RSF, I own your firstborn child.

09:55 <RazorSharpFang> Not again

09:55 <Schism> No wait, you're right.  Someone already has claim.  Your THIRDborn child.

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09:57 <Schism> (See, this is how you troll newbies on the novice channel. You play with one another with ridiculous memes which only sometimes make sense, and sometimes intersect.  Then, you answer their questions when you see fit.)

10:08 <Schism> Cepheid: ... :3

10:08 <Schism> Lumindia, same applies.

10:08 * ConfusionRift flops.

10:26 <Schism> Mew-ty complete.

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10:35 <ConfusionRift> Sleep time. Laters!

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12:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Twilight Day Discussion - Future Episodes, Likes, Dislikes, and Theories! [ http://tinyurl.com/y7eeqekc ]

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12:39 <Cepheid> !log

12:39 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html

12:47 <Cepheid> After reading all that I feel like I dodged a bullet.

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12:54 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/1FbDt72g9BM For Schism.  Aldo if you are epileptic, do NOT watch this.

12:54 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

12:54 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Mini Mod Madness - Ouch_m

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12:55 <ADragonHoarding> reading what?

12:56 <Cepheid> The channel log.  Apparently a discussion on objective reality among other things.

13:00 <ADragonHoarding> ah

13:02 <RazorSharpFang> It was mostly predicated on weird people doing weird things.

13:06 <ADragonHoarding> While thoughts and discussions on whether I seem the same blue you do are interesting

13:07 <ADragonHoarding> I find them to be of limited practical value.

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13:17 <Cepheid> The infections are fighting it seems.  I can't hear very well out of both ears.

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13:25 <ADragonHoarding> What joy.

13:26 <OctaveSymphony> Woop, got my Space Marine iwo jima diorama today

13:29 <Cepheid> Tizzy, why are you nudging everything?

13:30 <ADragonHoarding> Because. Tizzy is a cat.

13:30 <Cepheid> And why are you licking the hole in my shirt?

13:30 <ADragonHoarding> See last response.

13:32 <Cepheid> Tizzy, why are you a cat?

13:35 <ADragonHoarding> Because the cat is the natural state of being for a Tizzy.

13:38 <Cepheid> Tizzy, why is your natural state of being a Felis Silvestris Catus?

13:39 <ADragonHoarding> Because Tweety Bird is a mark of shame upon the history of felinity.

13:41 <Cepheid> ....  Not quite what I was referencing because that is the legitimate scientific classification of a domestic cat but alright.

13:41 <ADragonHoarding> I'm aware.

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14:11 <Trip_Away> hello

14:11 <Cepheid> Hoi.

14:11 <Cepheid> Okay Spitfire I need to take you to a cat psychiatrist.

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14:23 <Cepheid> Spitfire what is wrong with you?

14:24 <Cepheid> You're attacking my wrists, biting down and holding on them.  You're attempting to balance on my arms.

14:24 <Cepheid> I let go or move, you start meowing in frustration.  Are you...  Are you trying to punish me for something?

14:25 <Cepheid> Do you see my wrists as the "nape" mother cats bite down on to keep their kittens from moving?

14:27 <Lumin> Analog Horror at 476MHz

14:31 <Cepheid> And he bites hard too.  Not enough to draw blood, but enough that long after he let's go I am still feeling sharp stinging pain at all the teeth marks.

14:37 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/0VL3dfXYNXM

14:37 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

14:41 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Wobbly Shaders - Doom Mod Madness

14:48 <Cepheid> I just gave spitfire a small saucer of water with ice cubes in it.  He's not sure what to do with it.  Heh keeps pawing at the ice cubes.

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16:00 <Cepheid> I got the TA position.

16:01 <ADragonHoarding> awesome

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16:16 <RazorSharpFang> How do you think you'll handle the new responsibility?

16:17 <Cepheid> Hard to say, because by then I'll likely be on another medication, to start with.  SO far it looks like my free time on Mondays and Fridays will possibly be taken up.

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16:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Classic Twilight Sparkle Animations / SFMs [ http://tinyurl.com/yabc94wt ]

16:28 <Sleeping_Nightmares> *m

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17:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Radio Plays: Love In Kindness Episode 4 / The Return of Villainy Episode 2 / Angelswift Chapter 5 [ http://tinyurl.com/y76djfjs ]

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17:42 <Schism> Cepheid: First, Shaders are fun.

17:43 <Cepheid> They are, yes.

17:43 <Schism> Also, Spitfire seems to be following this.  https://twitter.com/DrFelici_/status/1026488764812730368

17:43 <Cepheid> Heh.

17:43 <Cepheid> Also, that video I linked wasn't shaders, apparently.

17:43 <Cepheid> It's a scripting language in one of the many source ports.

17:43 <Cepheid> The author in question was learning to use some of the more experimental features of a dev release to make that.

17:43 <Cepheid> They made another mod, called "abort_m" which is equally ridiculous.

17:44 <Schism> Doom mods are an entirely serious business.

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18:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 50+ Fanfics to Read for Twilight Day! 2018 Edition  [ http://tinyurl.com/ybn9wmy9 ]

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18:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> > Read > Twilight Day

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18:38 <Ali> YAY TWILIGHT DAY

18:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yes what heresy

18:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> Like that horse deserves more spotlight

18:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> *snickers*

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19:13 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/HatokTalk/status/1026579635889303557 modders are going insane.

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19:16 <Nedemai> Apparently its gone too Jafar. XD

19:18 <Nedemai> Gonna show a whole new world Im guess

19:18 <Nedemai> ing

19:19 <Cepheid> Nedemai, have you forgotten that you are required by Canadian law to kill people for such horrible puns?

19:19 <Ali> But she's Canadian too eh?

19:19 <Nedemai> Required by law to make horrible puns you mean?

19:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm pretty sure the Canadian definition of "kill" is like a light pet to the head.

19:20 <Nedemai> ive spent years honing the skill

19:20 <Cepheid> Nah, murder people who make horrible puns.

19:20 <ADragonHoarding> It's a tit for tat system, since the puns are murder.

19:20 <Nedemai> Cepheid, apparently Canadian farmers are some of the best. The are just outstanding in their field.

19:21 <lonely`coco> I would have said out standing but the joke still works

19:22 <Cepheid> [redacted] [censored] YOU! I'LL BLOODY [censored] [censored for your sanity] [redacted because your security clearance is too low] YOU FOR THAT!

19:23 <Nedemai> Cepheid, you could probably just like, walk to me. Or bus or drive. Heck I have a car

19:23 <Cepheid> Walking might be a bit excessive, I'm in Ottawa.

19:23 <Cepheid> Bus or train, sure.

19:24 <Nedemai> Ah yea, thats about 8 hours from here by car

19:24 <Nedemai> Ive made that trip before

19:24 <Cepheid> Closest I ever got to you I think was when I visited Toronto last year and the year before.

19:25 <Cepheid> Anyways, back in a few minutes.  Chores.

19:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: The True Psychopath [ http://tinyurl.com/y9wshbmk ]

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19:32 <KooK> Harble

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19:57 <Nedemai> Cepheid, yea thats like 40 mins away

19:57 <Nedemai> infact Ill be in Hamilton and Burlington tomorrow

19:57 <Nedemai> which is close enough to Toronto

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20:06 <Cepheid> Next time I'm in Toronto, I'll ask my sister how to go about getting to where you are so I can harass you.

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20:14 * Filly_Nightmares noms Cepheid

20:14 * Filly_Nightmares has soft mouf

20:20 <Cepheid> ...

20:20 <Cepheid> Tizzy, you've eaten too much sandwich meats thanks to my parents.

20:20 <Cepheid> I'm eating mini-sausages right now, and Tizzy is spazzing out.

20:21 <ADragonHoarding> Right around 3:30 pm, every day, I start getting bombarded with questions from every direction

20:21 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o

20:22 <Filly_Nightmares> Cepheid, I didn't know cats like dat stuff!

20:22 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o

20:22 * Filly_Nightmares purr

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20:24 <Nedemai> Cepheid, well I am in Niagara just so ya know

20:24 <Nedemai> anyways ciao

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20:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Skullivan: Top Ten Twilight Sparkles [ http://tinyurl.com/ya52bg9m ]

20:26 <Cepheid> Filly_Nightmares:  Not all cats will eat "human food" as it's called.

20:26 <Cepheid> But deli meat is still meat, it's just been cured and/or brined.

20:27 <Cepheid> They'll still eat it.  Is it good for them?  Depends on what they're injected or cured with.  Some ingredients are harmful to cats.  The stuff we buy is safe.

20:28 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o

20:28 <Cepheid> You can actually go out, buy some steaks or other meats, cut 'em up to manageable chunks, and serve it to cats just fine.  They're obligate carnivores, they eat meat.  They *NEED* meat.

20:28 <Filly_Nightmares> My doggo just stares at me for food

20:28 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o

20:29 <Cepheid> In any case, Tizzy recognizes the smell of meat, cooked or otherwise.

20:29 <Cepheid> So when we have anything with meat, she'll be nearby.

20:36 <OctaveSymphony> Seen examples of people forcing "vegan pet food" on their animals...

20:36 <OctaveSymphony> Utterly disgusting honestly

20:36 <Cepheid> Eeyup.

20:37 <Cepheid> Being obligate carnivores, they absolutely have to eat meat, or at least get a certain component from it.

20:37 <Cepheid> If they don't, they die, basically.

20:42 <ADragonHoarding> you can get away with that with a bear, maybe

20:42 <ADragonHoarding> not cats, though.

20:42 <ADragonHoarding> also, "no animal byproducts" isn't necessarily a grand thing for pets

20:43 <ADragonHoarding> that's the gut and etc.

20:43 <ADragonHoarding> which is usually the first thing they'll eat when hunting in the wild.

20:44 <OctaveSymphony> I'm still confused by the dead rabbit I found out back a couple years ago

20:44 <OctaveSymphony> Head was eaten, the rest was intact

20:44 <Cepheid> Some animals do hunt for sport occasionally.

20:44 <Cepheid> Cats will sometimes hunt mice not to eat them, but to play with them.

20:44 <Cepheid> They get bored with it after the mouse dies from sheer terror.

20:45 <ADragonHoarding> Cats tend to have an adverse affect on local small wildlife.

20:45 <ADragonHoarding> Because the cat is fed by humans, they don't hunt for food

20:45 <Cepheid> More or less.

20:45 <ADragonHoarding> In some cases this increases the rate of hunting

20:45 <Cepheid> I'd argue "adverse effect" is a bit of an understatement.

20:46 <OctaveSymphony> Getting rid of rodents ain't bad tho

20:46 <Cepheid> It's basically a sort of epidemic.  Cats are killing birds and small wildlife at increasing and increasing rates because more cats keep getting born on a regular basis.

20:46 <ADragonHoarding> Octave: while true, in many cases that's best kept to the indoors.

20:47 <Cepheid> It's true.

20:47 <Cepheid> Cats live longer lives indoors.

20:47 <Cepheid> And do less damage to the ecosystem.

20:47 <OctaveSymphony> Too bad cats aren't predators to snakes to though

20:47 <OctaveSymphony> I'd love to see less snakes around

20:47 <ADragonHoarding> are they venomous?

20:48 <Cepheid> On average, cats live about 7-9 years if they're outdoor cats.  Most don't see 5 years.

20:48 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, indoor cats can live up to 18+ years.

20:48 <Cepheid> Simba lived to 18.  Pepper lived to 21.

20:49 <OctaveSymphony> One is, one isn't. Doesn't change that I want them gone.

20:49 <Cepheid> Whacking day!

20:50 <OctaveSymphony> I plain up hate snakes

20:50 <Schism> Grass snakes are cute.

20:51 <Schism> You can feed them bananas.

20:51 <OctaveSymphony> Had a friend in school who had one as a pet and said that "might toss it on me" when I was visiting...

20:51 <OctaveSymphony> I would've broken that snake if he ever did...

20:51 <Cepheid> So, basically your issue with snakes is traumatic torture from a friend.

20:51 <OctaveSymphony> Nope.

20:52 <OctaveSymphony> Issue existed long before then.

20:52 * Schism happily boops a Danger Noodle.

20:52 <Cepheid> Fair enough.

20:52 <Cepheid> Myself, I'm really only afraid of things that fly with stingers.

20:52 <Cepheid> Or things that fly and bite.

20:52 <OctaveSymphony> But my solution to a snake in my yard is hacking it to bits with a shovel

20:52 * Cepheid is afraid of wasps, bees and the like, and the occasional black fly.

20:53 <Cepheid> Unfortunately wishing these things dead is a bad idea.

20:53 <OctaveSymphony> Wasps terrify my, but that's due to allergies

20:53 <Cepheid> I'm not allergic, my problem with bees and wasps though is that they follow me, bump into me, or hover around me.

20:54 <Cepheid> Blackflies on the other hand, I'm afraid of because I've been bitten by a few.

20:56 <Cepheid> That said, don't invite cats to attack these things.

20:56 <Cepheid> Blackflies, not sure.  Bees and wasps though?  Cats are allergic to 'em.

20:56 <Cepheid> https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/cat-bee-stings-10__605.jpg

20:56 <Cepheid> https://assets.rbl.ms/4142376/980x.jpg

20:57 <OctaveSymphony> Actually found 2 wasp queens hibernating in my attic last year, removed them from the equation permanently, haven't had any nearby nests this year

20:57 <Cepheid> http://boredomtherapy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/09-cats-stung-by-bees.jpg

20:58 <Cepheid> Basically, kitties getting stung by bees?  They uh, swell up.

20:58 <OctaveSymphony> I do wonder if the neighbour across the road is noticing my use of Raid spray though

20:59 <OctaveSymphony> They suddenly got beehives set up, and I'm often too weary to distinguish between wasp and bee so I spray both

21:00 <OctaveSymphony> I'm still sorta itching to report them to the local council though

21:01 <OctaveSymphony> I have a hard time believing so many chickens they have are allowed to be kept in a tiiiiiny henhouse

21:02 <Cepheid> Make an anonymous report.

21:03 <OctaveSymphony> Also don't get how the hell they could get permission to have that many animals to begin with

21:03 <OctaveSymphony> Something like 12 hens, 3 ducks, a turkey...

21:03 <OctaveSymphony> In the middle of a town

21:04 <Cepheid> Licenses can be obtained to have a larger number of animals, etc.  That said..

21:04 <OctaveSymphony> Usually, councils here will not permit more than 5 hens inside of the community

21:05 <OctaveSymphony> I have appealed that decision as well because of the noise and amount of vermin that follows large amounts of poultry

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21:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Community Soapbox #109 - Relating to EG Vs. Pony, Diamond Tiara Replacing Starlight, Nickelodeon and MLP, and More!  [ http://tinyurl.com/y8knao8e ]

21:07 <Cepheid> Apparently you cannot legally keep chickens and other fowl here in Ottawa.

21:07 <Cepheid> Livestock isn't allowed unless it's a farm, etc.

21:07 * Schism randomly passes Cepheid a plush of Lord Theodore Thomas Blackwood.

21:08 <Cepheid> Who?

21:08 <OctaveSymphony> These people have also broken the law before, by having a rooster

21:08 <OctaveSymphony> Which is never allowed inside of the town

21:08 <Schism> Cepheid: The most erudite sea slug you'll ever meet.  http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1867

21:08 <Cepheid> Oh, heh.

21:09 <Schism> Exactly how he manages to pull off his astounding feats is a mystery which may never be answered.  Which is probably for the best.

21:12 * Cepheid stretches, yawns. Feeling groggy now.

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21:14 <Schism> Cepheid: Yeah, but lying down requires that you actually remain still in this sticky freakin' heat.

21:17 <Cepheid> So I saw my dad putting stuff out for garbage, including an old lay-z-boy chair that's been scratched up to hell.

21:17 <Cepheid> He had just gotten home from work and all that.

21:18 <Cepheid> So I go up to the window and yell "Stop right there, criminal scum!" and scared the *YAY* out of him.

21:19 <Cepheid> And meanwhile, you are right Schism.  If it weren't for the fact that I have a fan on me, and the A/C nearby running to keep this room cool.

21:19 * Schism grumps.

21:24 * Cepheid gives Schism a beer for $1. Totally not attempting to distract him from any illegal provincial government tactics, or get him so drunk he won't care what said government does.

21:25 <Cepheid> No-sir-ee, that'd be immoral. >.>

21:25 * Schism peers at it. "This is Labatt Blue." He throws it at Cepheid's head.

21:25 * Cepheid suffers a concussion.

21:25 * Schism coughs, picks it up, and tosses it at Doug Ford instead.

21:25 <Schism> (Throwing at people is the only thing that Labatt is good for.)

21:26 * Cepheid gets treated at the local hospital for free.

21:27 <Cepheid> The thing about Ford is he seems to think we're stupid and complacent enough to just let him do whatever he pleases.  Unfortunately, we're not.

21:28 <Schism> Depends on who you talk to.

21:28 <Schism> Unfortunately, while I love this country, there's a reason people call us 'America's Hat', and that's because our headspace sometimes occupies about the same geographical location.

21:28 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

21:29 <Schism> Doug Ford wouldn't have been elected in the first place if not for a sizeable quantity of ... I'm going to be generous here and call them misguided people.

21:30 <Cepheid> Might have helped had I not been sick and voted.

21:30 <Schism> Mm, well.

21:31 <Cepheid> All I remember of that day was being asleep for most of it and a high fever.

21:31 <Cepheid> Like, 103F high.

21:31 <Schism> Yeeeah.  Best that you stayed in.

21:32 <Schism> Honestly, if a decade under Stephen Harper and his gang of thugs didn't convince people that the PCs were a worthless bunch of nitwits, I doubt anything could.

21:33 <Cepheid> What ruined it all was basically the liberals giving up.

21:33 <Schism> Specifically, the liberal premier.

21:33 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

21:33 <Schism> What a joke.  What a sick little third-act twist.

21:33 <Cepheid> Conspiracy theories abound, to boot.

21:34 <Schism> Thankfully, up here, Hanlon's Razor still applies.

21:34 <Schism> My money is, for a change, on simply incompetence.

21:35 <Cepheid> More or less.

21:35 <Schism> (Those following along at home, Hanlon's Razor states 'in a choice between stupid and evil, bet on stupid.')

21:36 <Schism> (This has suffered somewhat in the US of late.  And England.)

21:36 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'ma lay down.

21:36 <Cepheid> I'm getting tired.

21:37 <Schism> Keep those fans going.

21:37 * Schism provides Cepheid with plenty of fanservice.

21:38 * Cepheid counters with a Yukkuri of Twilight Sparkle.

21:39 <Schism> Oh, these things.  https://derpicdn.net/img/2014/9/21/726599/full.png

21:39 <Cepheid> Yes.

21:39 <Schism> And this.  https://orig00.deviantart.net/b22a/f/2013/049/e/e/yukkuri_shiteitte_ne__by_convoykaiser-d5vg0rm.jpg

21:40 <Cepheid> Mooore or less.

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21:55 *** Ali|AFK is now known as Ali

22:01 * Schism offers Ali some cheesy mashed potatoes with onion gravy.

22:02 * Ali ish not hungry right now

22:02 <Ali> Also its bookhorse day!

22:02 <Schism> It is!

22:02 * Ali snugs her Twilight plushies

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22:02 <Schism> !link https://derpibooru.org/6597

22:02 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about female safe solo twiabetes artist:valcron (and 21 more)

22:03 <Schism> Also, https://derpibooru.org/1714354

22:03 <Schism> For some Sunlight love.  <3

22:04 * Ali can't read those books!

22:05 <Schism> It's all Greek to you?

22:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2703 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybae8euk ]

22:06 * Ali ponyshrugs

22:06 <Cepheid> Sweet merciful cripes.  An accident near Ottawa resulted in a death.  The video of the scene shows that the car of the person who died?  Completely and utterly decimated.  It is in pieces.

22:08 <Surreal_Nightmares> Aw

22:08 * Filly_Nightmares eeez

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22:10 <Schism> Criminy.

22:10 * Schism yeeeshes, and boops Filly_Nightmares with some mashed taters. Doesn't share any with Surreal_Nightmares though.

22:11 * Filly_Nightmares eeees excitedly and nommifies the potato!

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22:32 <Cepheid> So apparently the Nintendo Direct tomorrow is about Smash.  Calling it now: Waluigi won't be announced.  Massive outrage at this crime.  Death threats from fans.

22:35 <Ali> He's an assist trophy, that's all he's getting

22:35 <Ali> Wahhh Wahhhh WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

22:35 * Ali snuffles into Cepheid

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22:36 <Cepheid> Nah.  He won't appear at all in the game.

22:36 <Ali> Cepheid, he was a confirmed Assist

22:36 <Cepheid> He's been removed then.

22:37 * Schism waaaahs at Cepheid.

22:38 * Cepheid stands still like Luigi. Wins every game.

22:39 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxrw18I3e-A

22:39 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

22:43 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Bonk.io - Do Not Move! - Winning By Doing Absolutely Nothing

22:45 <Cepheid> How can people be that bad at a game?

22:46 <Schism> I couldn't even begin to speculate.

22:47 <Cepheid> I wonder how they'd do at that motion sickness doom.

22:49 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/0VL3dfXYNXM Do not watch this if you suffer any form of motion sickness.  Also maybe epilepsy.

22:49 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Wobbly Shaders - Doom Mod Madness

22:49 <Cepheid> Starts off safe but then goes ludicrous mode.

22:50 <Schism> "What is going to go wrong, and how can I prevent it?" --Agatha Heterodyne asks the smartest question ever put forth by a comic book protagonist

22:53 <Cepheid> Spread it around like a meme and let the internet solve it.

23:02 <Lumindia_> send help, i'm melting

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23:04 * Cepheid rides an iceberg for miles to Lumindia_'s house. Promptly slams into it.

23:05 <Lumindia_> I accept this offering of ice

23:05 <Lumindia_> <3

23:05 <Lumindia_> I had to drive for half an hour with the windows up and the heat on

23:05 * Schism passes Lumindia a plush Rathalos.

23:05 <Lumindia_> ;-;

23:05 <Lumindia_> I'm literally melting

23:05 <Schism> Glah.  Yeah, ice is best.

23:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff - BEST Art of Twilight Sparkle (2018 Edition) [ http://tinyurl.com/ybsdbkj5 ]

23:05 <Lumindia_> mount the dragon, be the hunter

23:08 * Cepheid stabs the Rathalos in the neck repeatedly.

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23:15 <Schism> Mad science results in the best creations.  For example, I really want that staff in panel 3.  http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20120109

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23:17 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/MattThorson/status/1026956953627447296

23:18 <Schism> I should pick Celeste up at some point.

23:20 <Schism> It's hilarious seeing the creators react to a TAS speedrun thereof, though.

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23:26 <Schism> Watching the world record holder react with simple disbelief is also great.  X3

23:27 *** Pony|82169 is now known as ThatAnonPony

23:27 <Cepheid> Gotta say one thing about the TAS folks.  Some of the best QA/Testers ever.  They find bugs to exploit for speed running

23:28 <Cepheid> I plan to ask them to report bugs they find.  The fixes will be behind on/off switches for their sake.

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23:31 <Cepheid> Sleep time for me.

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23:45 <Lumindia_> https://i.imgur.com/3dcULsg.jpg *leaves this in the chat*

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