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00:59 <Schism> Cepheid:
00:59 <Schism> https://xkcd.com/831/
01:04 <PinkieShy> cooked steaks topped with pepper and salt.
01:04 <PinkieShy> Made the steak very chewy and soft.. amazing in taste
01:08 <Cepheid> Schism: Eeeyup, that's Orleans.
01:09 * Schism goes out for a walk.
01:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Ubuntu Pluggin the Pony Apps on Twitter [ http://tinyurl.com/ydef6leo ]
01:39 <Cepheid> So, my sister is allergic to cats. No big deal, she'll just sleep in the spare room which has been dusted, vacuumed and so on.
01:40 <Cepheid> Spitfire, wanting to watch the dog, is going all hawkeyed and sitting at the door non-stop.
01:48 <Cepheid> New asdfmovie!
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02:06 <Schism> Cepheid: Oooh, baby, I love you baby...
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02:09 * Schism looks at the latest asdfmovie. "Well."
02:11 <Schism> Poor Mr. Tibbles. He only wanted a friend.
02:12 * Schism also offers Cepheid some chocolate coffee cake. With decaf coffee, as well.
02:14 * PinkieShy is back after crying for 5 minutes or more..
02:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1527 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9ohxj33 ]
02:16 * Schism hugs the PinkieShy... and offers a steak fajita?
02:22 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy and lays at their hooves
02:25 <PinkieShy> DashedRainbows i just ordered that book i told you about before
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02:25 <PinkieShy> It looks like i do need it after all..
02:26 <DashedRainbows> Aww
02:26 <PinkieShy> I cried because over my anxiety issues..
02:26 <PinkieShy> Plus Missing my grandma :(
02:27 <PinkieShy> I wish she was still alive..
02:27 <DashedRainbows> I wish you luck
02:29 <PinkieShy> Anxiety is the worse.. I'll say that.
02:29 <PinkieShy> I pray for any of you here that is having Anxiety as bad as mine has been being.
02:29 <DashedRainbows> Wait till you meet depression
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02:32 <PinkieShy> DashedRainbows I don't know if my anxiety has had a mix of that as well.
02:32 <PinkieShy> But i doubt it.
02:34 <PinkieShy> Anxiety to the point where it interferes with me wanting to play games or watch tv.
02:34 <PinkieShy> Could have VRChat open and so much worried that it could been open an hour and forgot about it..
02:35 <PinkieShy> I got a feeling that book will help
02:35 <PinkieShy> Majorly.
02:43 <Schism> !link https://youtu.be/Mt-YuVhsvpY < Been this way...
02:43 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
02:43 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Burnout \u0026 Overworking Yourself
02:47 <DashedRainbows> OMG, so hot
03:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Sia - Rainbow (Koron Korak Cover) [Acoustic] [ http://tinyurl.com/ya4h4zmw ]
03:16 <Cepheid> Time for melatonin!
03:20 * Schism crafts cLvl51 perception gear.
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03:48 <CycloneDusk> wish I'd been on IRC all along, heh.
03:49 <CycloneDusk> ... also i wish i figured out bouncer service XD
03:51 <CycloneDusk> because then i could be connected to this session on multiple devices at once...
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03:51 <CycloneDusk> There's something freeing about IRC, to me.
03:52 <CycloneDusk> very little worry about setting up 'accounts' etc. just come as you are.
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03:58 * Cepheid yawns.
03:58 <Schism> That worked quick.
04:02 <CycloneDusk> oh hello!
04:02 <Schism> Heya.
04:02 * Schism is busy! Making stuff. XD; "But welcome, welcome."
04:02 <CycloneDusk> i'm glad IRC is still around ^^
04:02 <Schism> And yeah, IRC is nice in that way. And it shall never die!
04:02 * CycloneDusk is also at work :D but this job has lots of nice downtime
04:03 <CycloneDusk> IRC is too hardy to die.
04:03 <Schism> When the heat death of the universe comes along, there will still be a server around.
04:04 <CycloneDusk> the last black hole dwindling to nothing will be bleeding off hawking radiation that's being harvested into an ultra-low-power server that hosts the last conscious minds that shall ever be, and they'll all be talking to each other on IRC
04:04 <Schism> That, or in the end the whole universe will turn out to have been a repurposed IRC server all along.
04:05 <CycloneDusk> wouldn't be THAT surprised if this were the case :p
04:05 * Schism woots, "Carpenter 67." Shall soon have more classes up that high.
04:05 <Cepheid> IRC has the benefit of using minimal tech to work. Makes it resistant to death.
04:06 <CycloneDusk> which game?
04:06 <CycloneDusk> and yeah cepheid. i wish more systems would learn from that example.
04:07 <Schism> FFXIV, as it happens.
04:07 <CycloneDusk> oh dang i love FFXIV
04:07 <CycloneDusk> sad it stopped working for me XD
04:07 <Schism> My retainers require better gear, as they're level 52ish and I've got them in level 20 stuff... oh?
04:07 <CycloneDusk> I can't log in anymore.
04:08 <Schism> Just lack of sub, or what?
04:08 <Schism> 2FA failure?
04:08 <CycloneDusk> i could afford a sub... just that when i try to log in, it doesn't let me XD
04:08 <CycloneDusk> it lets me go through all the motions of resetting a password
04:08 <CycloneDusk> but then doesn't accept the new password
04:08 * Schism headtilts, "That definitely sounds like something to contact Squeenix support over."
04:09 <CycloneDusk> it sure does!
04:09 <Schism> How long ago did that start? And, ah... are you on PS3?
04:09 <CycloneDusk> so I contacted them
04:09 <CycloneDusk> ...and never heard from them again
04:09 <CycloneDusk> ehhh i didn't start super long ago...
04:09 <Schism> Iiiii'd definitely give that another try.
04:10 <CycloneDusk> maybe so. after i get a few more paychecks. i'm still recovering from bronycon XD
04:10 <CycloneDusk> lost two weeks of pay
04:10 <CycloneDusk> and spent the savings XD
04:10 <Schism> Ah, that definitely would help. :S Plushies are expensive.
04:10 <CycloneDusk> i actually mostly bought things for my friends X3
04:10 <CycloneDusk> pratt street alehouse, a nice lunch for six of us... 180 bucks. but i'll tell you what, sooooo worth it.
04:11 <CycloneDusk> ate like royalty
04:11 <Schism> Sounds about right in terms of a menu, too.
04:11 <CycloneDusk> and had so much leftovers they outlasted the drive home!
04:11 <CycloneDusk> the nachos, Schism... THE NACHOS ;_;
04:12 <CycloneDusk> It was as big as a full size desktop replacement laptop and even more heavy!
04:12 <CycloneDusk> they layered the 'toppings' in, so there wasn't a single dry chip
04:12 <Schism> Oh, surely not quite that much...
04:12 <CycloneDusk> and we all had entrees...
04:13 <Schism> But that topping bit is of course how nachos are meant to be.
04:13 <CycloneDusk> got the crab cakes. so much actual crab meat...!
04:13 <CycloneDusk> not just crab-flavored hushpuppies XD
04:14 <Schism> Well, you know. Crab cakes around here have some crab! ...a little. And a lot of Alaska pollock.
04:14 <CycloneDusk> i was embarrassed by how little i spent on my fellow staff at the dead dog after the con XD
04:14 <CycloneDusk> i expected to drop 300 bucks, but only managed a SIXTH of that, or at most a fifth...
04:15 <CycloneDusk> bought pitchers for tables...
04:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Bonus Music #143 [ http://tinyurl.com/y989us6h ]
04:17 <Cepheid> Melatonin is nice. o3o *drool*
04:18 <Schism> CycloneDusk, hey, nothing wrong with that. I usually go with a beer which has an actual flavour, and nurse that for a while.
04:18 <CycloneDusk> i think my favorite neurotransmitter is oxytocin :3 but i think BDNF gives it a run for its money
04:19 <CycloneDusk> schism, i prefer flavorful beverages overall most definitely!
04:19 <CycloneDusk> i like something that's malty and sweet, oatey y'know?
04:19 <CycloneDusk> but the best thing i ever had was a hefeweizen
04:20 <Cepheid> I can no longer drink alcohol due to meds. So I replaced it with drinking spicey things.
04:20 <CycloneDusk> they spiced it elegantly with clove and nutmeg and a few other little harvest-themed pinches
04:20 <CycloneDusk> it was delightful
04:21 <Schism> Oh, a really good spicy hefeweisen is indeed a thing of beauty, so long as the clove doesn't overpower the citrus.
04:21 <CycloneDusk> YES
04:21 <CycloneDusk> that little citrus hint... ahhhhh
04:23 * Schism offers Cepheid a caesar with lots of lemon juice.
04:23 <Schism> (Virgin caesar, of course.)
04:25 <CycloneDusk> i used to swear by strawberry daiquiris. virgin ones too
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05:17 <CycloneDusk> ...they need to make an all-aluminum phone.
05:17 <CycloneDusk> even the screen.
05:17 <CycloneDusk> transparent aluminum! :D
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05:41 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
05:44 <CycloneDusk> hiyo thelema, great to see you'r still around :3
05:49 <Thelema5> Yep, every evening.
05:49 <Thelema5> How've you been?
05:50 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of rather unimmense dimensions.
05:50 <Finwe> Messrs Thelema5 and CycloneDusk.
05:50 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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05:51 <CycloneDusk> bronycon was the worst ever XD
05:52 <CycloneDusk> also hi Finwe
05:52 <CycloneDusk> I recognize your name as well :D
05:52 <Schism> *shriek of ultimate despair*
05:52 <Finwe> I've been here since autumn 2010. o3o
05:52 <Finwe> Mr Schism.
05:52 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
05:52 * Finwe doffs his hat.
05:53 * Schism doffs his spare hammer. The one which cost a lot to make.
05:53 <Thelema5> CycloneDusk, what was so bad about it?
05:53 <Finwe> A bit short of 8 years.
05:53 * Finwe does not doff his IS-7, because it costs too much to assemble.
05:54 <Finwe> Timewise, that is.
05:54 <R0adkill> Finwe, you into science?
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05:58 <Finwe> R0adkill: Yup.
05:58 <R0adkill> You think you could help me with my Physics homework?
05:58 <R0adkill> Or at least try?
05:58 <Finwe> I've studiet mathematics and physics.
05:59 <Finwe> *studied
05:59 <R0adkill> Great! I'll PM you.
05:59 <Finwe> o3o
05:59 <CycloneDusk> a lot of annoying little things kept failing to add up, miscommunication between departments, shortage of staff specifically in security, policy and procedure failures across the board with regard to policy adherance... and then of course they announced that they're cancelling it after 2019.
06:00 <CycloneDusk> it hurt.
06:00 <Thelema5> Better to kill it now than watch it get worse and worse
06:00 <CycloneDusk> but hey at least i keep hearing about little resistance movements popping up all over the place. Clearly the upper management of bronycon did NOT effectively speak for the community at large with this idea.
06:00 <CycloneDusk> worse and worse? pfffft. fuck that noise
06:01 <CycloneDusk> anthrocon went FIFTEEN YEARS without EVER having more than 5k attendance
06:01 <CycloneDusk> and now they're going to piss and moan and roll over and give up because they can't get double that? PUH-LEEZE.
06:01 <CycloneDusk> things were going to level off at around 4500
06:01 * Thelema5 blinks
06:02 <CycloneDusk> killing something in its prime isn't mercy. It's expediency.
06:02 <Thelema5> The fandom is hardly in its prime.
06:02 <Thelema5> Heck, the show is even slated to be rebooted
06:02 <CycloneDusk> i believe it earned the right to peter out. nobody died and made bronycon Doctor Kevorkian.
06:03 <CycloneDusk> fandom exists literally in spite of main stream support.
06:03 <Thelema5> The organizers were clearly not making any money from it anymore. Lower attendance = poor budget = poor experience
06:03 <CycloneDusk> doesn't matter what the show is doing
06:03 <CycloneDusk> dude. the money was fine. that was even in their press releases. they're WELL into the black
06:04 <CycloneDusk> they sold out sponsorship packages too
06:04 * Thelema5 shrugs
06:04 <CycloneDusk> money was not the issue. they're just chasing metrics
06:04 <Thelema5> I hardly ever even watch MLP anymore
06:04 <CycloneDusk> it's selfish.
06:04 <Thelema5> Hmm. So organize your own con?
06:04 <CycloneDusk> most of the people i go to bronycon to work with don't watch the show anymore, because as i said, the show doesn't actually matter and doesn't factor into the community's passion
06:04 <Schism> That's a very pat answer which really doesn't work.
06:05 <CycloneDusk> and factions popping up to organize their own thing are actually happening
06:05 <CycloneDusk> all over the place
06:05 <CycloneDusk> and i'm glad to see it
06:05 <CycloneDusk> i'm encouraging it. and if i can help to shore up an infrastructure for any one of these groups to grow on, or perhaps to pool resources with one another cooperatively, damn straight i'm gonna do it.
06:06 <Thelema5> This year's attendance was half of what it was just 3 years ago. That's not sustainable
06:06 <CycloneDusk> nah :p what was ACTUALLY unsustainable was expecting ten freaking thousand people every year. 2015 was a fluke.
06:06 <CycloneDusk> ~4500 or so would've been perfectly sustainable.
06:07 <CycloneDusk> and the size of the drop HAS been tapering off.
06:07 <CycloneDusk> 2016 dropped by 2000 and change.
06:07 <CycloneDusk> 2015 was down by less than 1000
06:07 <CycloneDusk> ***2017
06:07 <CycloneDusk> sorry, typo.
06:07 <CycloneDusk> this year was down a couple hundred from last year.
06:07 <CycloneDusk> we still had more than five thousand people show up. There's a clearly asymptotic leveling going on here
06:08 <CycloneDusk> and killing it is basically artificially forcing it to 0 in 2020, which again, is utter tripe and a dick move
06:08 <CycloneDusk> so yeah. happy to see people are coming together to do something about this.
06:08 <Thelema5> Organizing an event like that is very, very difficult and requires massive amounts of planning, hard work, and faith that in the end the numbers are going to come through. I've worked for a conventions venue for 6 years. Organizers take a bath when they can't run accurate budget projections. If the tickets don't sell, everything gets paid out of pocket
06:09 <CycloneDusk> if they wanna drop the ball so bad, sure thing, go right ahead. everyone else who actually still cares at all can just pick it right back up and carry it where it's actually wanted.
06:09 <CycloneDusk> this event has a small army of highly skilled, specialized, trained personnel who don't want it to go away. The workforce is there, waiting for leaders who aren't quitters.
06:10 <CycloneDusk> and the sponsor tickets did sell. they still made a profit at 5400 attendees.
06:10 <Thelema5> "miscommunication between departments, shortage of staff specifically in security, policy and procedure failures" is not the result of a highly skilled specialized and trained personel
06:11 <CycloneDusk> the miscommunication RESULTED IN the security shortage, namely in that the events department had more people than they knew what to do with XD
06:11 <CycloneDusk> the real problem here is that the decision makers upstairs aren't talking to the people who are actually on the ground
06:11 <Thelema5> I guess you should buy them out then and run it.
06:11 <CycloneDusk> and that fiasco could've been avoided if there were communication.
06:12 <CycloneDusk> well shit, i hope they're ready to sell. this is bigger than me :p
06:12 <CycloneDusk> i ain't leading jack; i'm just seeing what's happening here on the ground
06:13 <CycloneDusk> and hey, if a solid team of people rise up with a viable plan and say "hey help us buy out lunar solis", provided that's even an option, hell i'll pitch in a couple bucks myself.
06:14 <Thelema5> Good luck!
06:15 <CycloneDusk> good news is i already see a few factions that are pretty close to that point already. the writing track has an excellent workflow developed, fully tested and implemented even, for planning, setting up, and conducting panels and events. Got like, almost literally every security person i talked to telling me they'd sign up if someone raised a rallying banner,
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06:16 <ConfusionRift> Hello every- (looks up) ...everypony.
06:16 <CycloneDusk> i think the most pressing obstacle right now is getting the word out that people who feel abandoned and betrayed by the announcement aren't alone. If they look, they'll find like minds.
06:18 <Thelema5> Well the trouble is that you have to budget these things out based on ticket sales projections. If you have 10,000 attendees one year, you have to budget for at least as many people the next year. That means contraction hotel room blocks, paying for event space, contracting audio-visual, hiring staff, recruiting talent, organizing the event, marketing,etc. You want people to feeel that they're getting their money's worth, so you project to mak
06:19 <Thelema5> say 10%. If you sell more that your projections, great! Money in the bank. But if you're budgeting for 10,000 people and only 6,000 people buy in, you're screwed. Generally popular events budget 10% higher atttendance year over year...
06:19 <CycloneDusk> i see what you're saying, but as it stands they've been too ambitious. they should have never reached for 10k again. aiming for 5k would be perfectly respectable.
06:20 <Thelema5> But then you wind up overselling the event, and no one has a good time. Hotel rooms are unavailable, food runs out, event spaces are filled to capacity, everyone waits in lines for hours...
06:20 <CycloneDusk> 2014 with over 9k and 2015 with 10k were miracle outliers, they were never going to be 'the new normal'
06:20 <CycloneDusk> the world doesn't actually work on 'constant growth', that leads to bubbles and collapses. sustainability is a wiser goal and it's much more attainable.
06:21 <CycloneDusk> and also, fun fact, hotel rooms are always sold out for bronycon XD even this year
06:22 <CycloneDusk> in security, we learned a lot about crowd control and line management.
06:22 <CycloneDusk> there's more to it than 'everybody stand here, and then walk'
06:23 <CycloneDusk> and we've got five+ year veterans who've forgotten more about managing that traffic flow than most people will ever learn in the first place :p
06:25 <CycloneDusk> as it happens, more people go to bronycon because it's where all the other bronies go, to hang out with their friends in a cool place to hang out. the panels and other events are practically almost just an excuse next to going to see their friends, something they weren't comfortable or resourceful enough to arrange on their own. it's a banner to rally under more than anything.
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06:26 <CycloneDusk> but eh, the extent of my own involvement in any con is always going to be boots on the ground, liason between events staff and in-room security presence.
06:26 <Thelema5> Huh, I had no idea! I thought it was because they want to look super cool.
06:27 <CycloneDusk> i don't have to make those big decisions myself; i'm just supporting the ones that i agree with here.
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06:30 <CycloneDusk> and for that matter, there ARE unfortunately people who are in it "to look cool". They're the ones that announced cancellation. Me and mine, we gave up on coolness LONG ago X3 as if it weren't obvious.
06:31 <CycloneDusk> now that it ain't so "cool" anymore, now that there isn't as much "prestige", the fake-ass posers are flaking away like rotting paint.
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06:31 * Thelema5 giggles
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06:32 <Thelema5> I'm sorry, "posers" is such a middle-school concept
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06:33 * ConfusionRift observes.
06:33 * Thelema5 giggles
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06:34 <CycloneDusk> it only crops up when you have disingenuous people misleading others for social gain, which indeed has a lot of overlap with middle school. it's a shame we haven't grown out of it in this area yet... but we might.
06:35 <Thelema5> I donno, I just people do their thing on their own terms
06:36 <CycloneDusk> yeah, it's great when people are allowed to do their own thing and not have the rug ripped out from under them. But hey, that's why folks are trying to get a new rug.
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06:45 <Thelema5> Well that "rug" wasn't their own thing, they were just renting it for the price of a ticket. But whatevs.
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07:08 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
07:08 <Finwe> o7
07:08 * Ali squeaks
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07:09 <Finwe> Mr Fall, Miss DashedRainbows.
07:09 * Finwe doffs his hat.
07:09 <Fall> Morning
07:10 * Ali pounces on Fall
07:10 <Thelema5> Is it morning already?
07:10 <Thelema5> Crap
07:10 <ConfusionRift> "You fool me once, shame on you. You fool me twice, shame on me. You fool me three times, BOOT TO THE HEAD!!!"
07:10 <Finwe> Thelema5: I think so, at least here in Europe.
07:11 <Bubs> it has been for some hours
07:11 <Fall> Heya Ali
07:11 <Bubs> Mr Finwe
07:11 * Ali snugs into the Fall
07:11 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
07:11 <CycloneDusk> I work overnights now ^^ graveyard shift ftw! so if this is the kind of presence y'all are rocking overnight, maybe i'll try to stick around again...
07:13 <Finwe> Mijnheer Bubs.
07:13 <Finwe> Hoe gaat het?
07:13 <ConfusionRift> Blech, graveyard. Then again, dayshift sucks in its own way.
07:14 <Bubs> great! finally some rains this week
07:14 <ConfusionRift> It's raining here as well. Finally!
07:14 <ConfusionRift> Too bad it was at night.
07:15 <CycloneDusk> i adoooore graveyard. i've always been a natural night owl. i'd be awake right now even if i were at home
07:15 <CycloneDusk> and i get to be here on shift so i'm happy!
07:15 <ConfusionRift> Well, that's different. :P
07:17 <Thelema5> I worked graveyard for 7 years. Loved it at first, hated it long-term. Ruined my ability to relate with people on general terms as well as my cicadian rhythms...
07:17 <Thelema5> Still trying to get back on a regular schedule
07:18 <Thelema5> To be honest, my late-night habits I aquired while working nights have been a sore point in my personal relationship ever since....
07:19 <ConfusionRift> Used to work 11pm to 8am* shifts. Was pretty awake during the night, and was completely dead and drained during the morning. You know. When customer traffic is at its heaviest. People bugging me, asking me dumb questions, calling management because "I wasn't servicing them" even though I already clocked out, etc.
07:19 <ConfusionRift> University did that to me.
07:19 <Thelema5> Yeah
07:20 <ConfusionRift> Was awake late trying to get papers and programs done.
07:21 <ConfusionRift> The worst part was that other family members were studying in the same place and in the same classes. So facilitators were checking my papers under a microscope.
07:24 <Thelema5> Yikes
07:24 <Finwe> Look behind you, a three-headed monkey!
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07:25 <ConfusionRift> Huuuh?!
07:25 * ConfusionRift turns.
07:25 * Finwe tries to sneak away with a stolen banana.
07:26 <ConfusionRift> Oh banana!!!
07:32 <Finwe> Note to self: you have to turn on the blood glucose meter before trying to do any measurements.
07:32 <ConfusionRift> ...whoops.
07:33 <Finwe> 6.5 mmol/l
07:35 <Finwe> It's always a bit high in the morning, obviously resulting from lipolysis and the fact that the glargin I inject every morning usually has completely degraded during the night.
07:35 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Newbie Artist Training Grounds VIII: Day 20 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9x9u6qr ]
07:37 <Finwe> Oh, and I also injected one unit less than usually yesterday, because that was all I had left.
07:39 <Finwe> After visiting the pharmacist's yesterday I now have my stores replenished.
07:40 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah!
07:41 * ConfusionRift watches as someone makes a VM with Vista and raves at how "not too bad" it was. Starts Solitaire, BSOD. "Heh, never gets old."
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07:44 <Finwe> One does not simply use Windows Vista.
07:46 <Bubs> I've used Vista for about 5-6 years without too many complaints.
07:46 <ConfusionRift> I did for half a year, and many regrets befell it.
07:47 <Bubs> biggest 'problem' was driversupport for older hardware. but that wasn't microsoft's fault
07:48 <ConfusionRift> Half a year because the laptop I bought was just about to move to 7. The sent me a free upgrade, and things got better.
07:48 <ConfusionRift> But yeah, driver support was a big issue. And then that issue came back with 10.
07:50 * ConfusionRift flops.
07:51 <ConfusionRift> All is in the paaaast.
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08:01 <ConfusionRift> Aaaaah, I remember the stupid UPGRADE TO WIN10 popups that showed up for months.
08:01 * ConfusionRift still has Win7. "I'm a webel. Expewience the hweat!"
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10:07 * Schism yawnskreeee! And flops onto his side, making sure there are plenty of blankets between him and certain parasitic fillies who desire heat.
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10:15 <ConfusionRift> Audiosurf with chiptunes is tricky.
10:16 <ConfusionRift> Man, wanna play something, but dunno what
10:17 <RazorSharpFang> Do you think dreams have meaning to them?
10:20 <ConfusionRift> Hard to say. Dreams are very ambiguous when it comes to their meaning. At times, they do have a meaning and try to convey some sort of message. Other times, they try to keep you sane and kinda happy just before dealing with a painful day. And at points, they're just figments of your subconscious, messing with you mentally.
10:21 <RazorSharpFang> I just had the weirdest dream, myself.
10:21 <RazorSharpFang> Would you care to hear it?
10:21 <ConfusionRift> And at points they are a mishmash of everything mentioned.
10:21 <ConfusionRift> Sure thing.
10:22 <RazorSharpFang> So, I'm at home, and there's a family gathering. A lot of folk I don't know are there. A few kids put clay (where'd they get that?) in the microwave.
10:23 <RazorSharpFang> Naturally, in a dream-like fashion, the clay begins to multiply (why). It just starts expanding, and making more of itself. I'm tasked by my Mother to get rid of all the clay.
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10:24 <RazorSharpFang> No matter how much I scrub, claw, wipe and remove, there's always a little bit of clay left, and all it takes is a little bit to expand, and there's more clay to expand.
10:24 <RazorSharpFang> There's so much clay produced that it starts coating the surfaces of everything in the house, we're knee-deep in clay, and I'm using a wheelbarrow to dump it outside, where it's forming a huge pipe that dwarfs the house.
10:25 <RazorSharpFang> I can't keep up with the clay production, it vastly outpaces my ability to cart. So, my mother says to me: "You're a disappointment, you've always been a disappointment, and you'll always be a disappointment"
10:26 <RazorSharpFang> In response, I say "Mother, that disappointments me" and I get sent to my room, feeling angry and resentful.
10:28 <RazorSharpFang> Once in my room, a rope from the garage smashes through my window, smashes itself into the roof, and forms a noose - upon seeing it, I'm lifted up and placed in it, where I start choking. Somehow, everyone instantly knows, and they all run into my room screaming "HOW DARE YOU! You don't get to escape!" at which point I wake up.
10:28 <ConfusionRift> ...
10:28 <RazorSharpFang> I've never had a dream like that before.
10:28 <ConfusionRift> This is hard to analyze.
10:29 <RazorSharpFang> What's peculiar is that the lifting myself up - I knew that it wasn't quite me that was doing it, but something within me, but not me. If that makes sense.
10:29 <ConfusionRift> Remember, you can't always take a dream by what's shown. They sometimes tell an indirect message.
10:30 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, like something deep within, right?
10:30 <ConfusionRift> Like an urge or some force out of your control is doing it.
10:31 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, like that.
10:31 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm.
10:32 <ConfusionRift> See, this one can get a bit into your personal life, and I would hate to pry.
10:32 <RazorSharpFang> I'm a very open (big-5-model) person, so I'm welcome to questions.
10:32 <ConfusionRift> Do you feel you have a toxic relation with your mom or your parents in general?
10:33 <RazorSharpFang> My relationship with my mother has gotten awry lately - she snaps at what I see as innocent side-remarks, and demands appologies, for what I see as corrections, or nudges in a direction.
10:34 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, it seems it's kinda gnawing at you. It might seem that it's not that bad, but it is bothering you inside.
10:35 <RazorSharpFang> She's always saying that it's disrespectful - but if I love someone, I'm going to try and steer them if I think what they're doing isn't good.
10:36 <RazorSharpFang> What's interesting about this dream, is that I can remember it when I wake up. I don't usually remember my dreams.
10:36 <ConfusionRift> It is definitely something that's bothering you subconsciously.
10:37 <ConfusionRift> I'm not saying that you would reach a suicidal point with this much bother, but it does seem to grate you more than it should.
10:38 <RazorSharpFang> For reference, I've never had a dream where I attempt that.
10:38 <RazorSharpFang> Not until now.
10:40 <ConfusionRift> The clay really doesn't have much significance. It could mean a simple action. Not necessarily workload, but more of you doing something for someone. In this case, your mom.
10:42 <ConfusionRift> It seems that by you trying to lead her the right way, that everything you do for her leads to disapproval. And in turn disappointment.
10:42 <ConfusionRift> The whole noose event...
10:43 <ConfusionRift> Maybe you feel each disapproval is disappointment, and don't feel like you're doing her any good, even if you actually are.
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10:45 <RazorSharpFang> Should I just, not?
10:45 <ConfusionRift> The self lifting being this feeling, intensified.
10:46 <ConfusionRift> I wouldn't take disapprovals that wholeheartedly. I mean, there are parents that do that. And absorbing it like that can be really toxic.
10:47 <RazorSharpFang> I don't know what to do with this.
10:48 <ConfusionRift> Here's the thing. I really can't give you a solid advice from a dream.
10:49 <ConfusionRift> I don't know if this is a momentary lapse, or if this WILL eventually translate to something bad. I just don't know.
10:50 <ConfusionRift> The only thing I can say is that you shouldn't let her disapprovals bother you like this. I know it's hard, and I know it hurts. I know way too many family members that do this, and it's infuriating at times.
10:51 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm.
10:51 <ConfusionRift> I mean, a cousin thought it would be a great idea to use an old fish tank as a step stool.
10:52 <RazorSharpFang> Somehow, I really do think the dream's trying to tell me something, but I'm having trouble figuring it out.
10:52 <ConfusionRift> An uncle thought it would be great to build a house with both powerlines and water lines next to each other.
10:54 <ConfusionRift> And a friend took a stranger's advice on the 'net in order to eliminate a computer "worm" by deleting sys32.
10:54 <ConfusionRift> Yes, I did advice against these, and they still went for it.
10:54 <RazorSharpFang> Oh boy
10:58 <ConfusionRift> One was send to the hospital to remove glass off their legs, the other had to redo the whole house and effectively wasting more money, and the last one paid some "tech specialist" to fix the problem... about $300 to reinstall Windows.
10:59 <RazorSharpFang> Ouch
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11:01 <ConfusionRift> I mean... sure, leading them the right way is fine. If they refuse to take the advice and they find it intrusive or rude, and apologize and let it be. It hurts, but I'm not one to grab them and tell them to follow a specific path.
11:01 <ConfusionRift> Now, that $300 waste was hilarious. :P
11:02 <ConfusionRift> But in my case, I had backup.
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11:02 <ConfusionRift> Which was a whole different thing.
11:04 <ConfusionRift> His other friend knew me, and told them I could have done it for them for free, which I was okay with.
11:04 <ConfusionRift> Win 95 takes forever though.
11:05 <ConfusionRift> In any case...
11:05 <ConfusionRift> I don't know what sort of solid advice to give about this situation. It's up to you on how to mediate the problem. But please, don't let it eat you.
11:06 <ConfusionRift> Because it's starting to sound like it really is getting to you.
11:07 <RazorSharpFang> I'm partially just surprised at the dream. It's so unlike any other I've had.
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12:59 <ADragonDreaming> Am blue, da ba dee da ba die
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14:50 <Schism> I swear, this freakin' building and its power flickers.
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15:21 <Schism> "You are well spoken. Have you ever engaged in political affairs?" "No, your Highness, I was never so unfortunate."
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16:59 * Schism yawwwwwnles. And puts a chocolate cream pie on Filly_Nightmares' head.
17:07 <Schism> "Do not touch any mushrooms larger than a bolete. It is a trap that will kill you. Do not step in any patches of blue flowers. It is a trap that will kill you. Do not pet the manticore kittens. It is a trap that will kill you." "Are you quite done with the Girl Genius references yet?" "Okay, okay, but seriously, be careful around the Everfree."
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17:10 <Schism> (Seriously, do not pet. https://www.deviantart.com/lcibos/art/Lil-Manticore-Cub-04-562826803 )
17:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Jokes 3 / Maud / Isolation 154 / BoE 6:35 / Love / Rogue Diamond 11:9 [ http://tinyurl.com/y96fv464 ]
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17:27 *** Ali changes topic to 'Welcome to #EquestriaDaily! This channel is rated All Ages | Guide and rules: http://derpy.me/EqDRules | S8 episode 16 is open for Discussion| Do not discuss season 8 spoilers until airdates! |'
17:31 * Schism offers the Ali some eggplant and chicken parmegiana with six cheeses.
17:32 * Ali noms Schism instead
17:32 <Schism> parmigiana*!
17:32 * Schism tastes vaguely of cinnamon.
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17:49 <Schism> "It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission, so I figured I'd make it even easier and get that out of the way first." --in which a time loop devolves into an insider trading scheme.
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18:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Strange Pony Knockoff Legos Appear on Aiexpress [ http://tinyurl.com/y92oa2p3 ]
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18:41 <Schism> Huh. o3o Parahumans are frequently alongside the brony community.
18:42 <R0adkill> What the hell is a parahumana?
18:42 <R0adkill> parahuman*
18:44 <Schism> Fans of wildbow's fiction, such as Worm, Pact and others.
18:45 <Schism> (Worm is some darned good superhero fiction.)
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19:11 <R0adkill> ya yeet
19:12 <R0adkill> Has anyone seen this?
19:12 <R0adkill> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP5lz2CYNR4
19:12 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Sakura-Con 2009 Commercial
19:14 <R0adkill> g i r u g a m e s h !
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19:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by We Are Borg: "The End in Friend" - Episode Followup: No Ships Here [ http://tinyurl.com/yak5n8ho ]
19:29 <Ali> Silly bloggers, that's the wrong episode
19:32 <Schism> It comes as a palpable surprise that most of the 117-year-old vampires voting in central Ohio are, in fact, Republican.
19:33 <Schism> (I joke, there's just this silly conspiracy thing going on.)
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20:15 <Schism> Mwehehe. https://www.reddit.com/r/prey/comments/6bh008/not_a_mimic/
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20:29 <Surreal_Nightmares> https://youtu.be/GBa0QkoQROE
20:30 <Surreal_Nightmares> Look Schism!
20:30 * Surreal_Nightmares giggles at Mimic!
20:30 <Surreal_Nightmares> o3o
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21:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: Which Permanent Physical Character Transformation is Your Favorite So far? [ http://tinyurl.com/ycb4csfp ]
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22:04 <R0adkill> hola
22:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2708 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7hu3vro ]
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22:21 <TempestShadow> Wait really? xD Dangit, musta let it slip
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22:37 * Cepheid flops in.
22:38 <Cepheid> Schism: Ahaha.
22:38 <RazorSharpFang> I think I'm going to write off my dream(s) as crazy fever-dreams.
22:38 <RazorSharpFang> Considering I was sick, and those dreams were quite unusual.
22:40 <Cepheid> !log
22:40 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
22:41 <RazorSharpFang> I spoke about my dream, like, yesterday, for reference.
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22:44 <Cepheid> I saw.
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23:32 <Cepheid> 'Fixed farmhands 'swimming' inside their cabins when they disconnect while swimming in the spa."
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