Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2018-08-28

00:03 * Schism patpats the Filly_Nightmares and provides tons of cooki!

00:11 <Cepheid> Took a shower. Feeling a bit better but man am I shaking uncontrollably.

00:11 <Cepheid> I feel like I have way too much energy, more than I usually ever do.

00:13 <filly`Coco> Go for a walk

00:14 <filly`Coco> Do something with the extra energy

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00:52 * Filly_Nightmares skrees at Schism happily and grabs his tongue!

00:56 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Season 8 Episode 25 - School Raze - Denmark Release Tonight [ http://tinyurl.com/yawuzrqs ]

01:07 <Cepheid> Mmm, nice to be all shaved. Face doesn't itch as much, nor am I regularly finding myself eating my own moustache.

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01:21 * Schism takes some skills with BRD. Namely, Bind Legs, Bind Head, and Bind Arms.

01:21 <Cepheid> Heh. Which game?

01:22 <Schism> Heh, FFXIV. I mean, they say 'graze', but that's literally what it does.

01:23 <Cepheid> Right, right.

01:29 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/sewr4qonsoi11.jpg Adorable.

01:38 <Cepheid> Hum, I want to play something, but I'm not sure what. Not much point in MHG right now since I plan to start over, and MHGU is arriving tomorrow, so..

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01:52 <Cepheid> My choices of games I'm interested in playing are...

01:52 <Cepheid> Valkyria Chronicles, Modded Minecraft, and Factorio.

01:58 <Cepheid> Huzzah, a package has shipped!

01:58 <Cepheid> And it's being delivered by Intelcom again. Means I'll get it by around noon.

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02:01 <Schism> Cepheid: Supposedly there are some excellent changes to vanilla in the latest version of Minecraft.

02:01 <Schism> They took out Hirobrine again, though.

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02:02 <Cepheid> Heh.

02:03 <Cepheid> Really I only want two mods in Minecraft.

02:03 <Cepheid> Thaumaturgy, and Equivalent Exchange. Automation would also be nice, so I could have stuff like belts/pipes/fluid handling stuffs.

02:04 <Cepheid> ...

02:04 <Cepheid> Spitfire, you are too skittish.

02:04 <Cepheid> Cleared my desk so he could lay down. He's laying down, all comfy and quiet. I sneeze.

02:04 <Cepheid> He runs off.

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02:05 <Cepheid> I'm gonna play Factorio with standard settings with the intent to complete a game.

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02:05 <Schism> Speedrun time.

02:06 <Cepheid> Nah. Just single-player, no mods for increasing difficulty, etc.

02:06 <Schism> Gonna go for a specific map, or just utterly random?

02:06 <Cepheid> Utterly random.

02:06 <Cepheid> Though I wouldn't mind a map that has a chokepoint.

02:06 <Cepheid> Or a largish island with sufficient stone.

02:07 <Schism> They need a way to let you fill an area with water. But that would probably be a kind of a gamebreaker.

02:10 <Cepheid> There's a mod for that, yeah, but again, no mods.

02:10 <Cepheid> Fortunately, unmodded allows me to examine the generated map.

02:11 <Cepheid> And you can even increase the visible area of the preview through editing a settings file.

02:11 <Schism> Oh. I meant that I thought you were just going to do a map with certain settings, and then /not/ preview it.

02:12 <Cepheid> I'm gearing to "win".

02:12 <Cepheid> So no random in the sense that I don't see what I have.

02:13 <Cepheid> Besides, it's common practice to simply take a look at the map after loading, determine if it's viable, and then regenerate afterwards anyways.

02:14 <Cepheid> In any case, default preview size is a tad large. Takes a long time to generate and show, so..

02:14 <Cepheid> Well, let's see, what's the initial revealed area size? I'll set it to that for "fairness".

02:15 <Cepheid> Hmmm. Can't find that info easily. 32x32 it is.

02:17 <Cepheid> Schism, you use a Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7 CPU, right?

02:18 <Schism> Nyope.

02:18 <Schism> AMD FX 8320.

02:20 <Cepheid> Mmm. I was wondering just how much faster Factorio loads on more recent processors. Hear stories from the devs of 4-second load times, but for me it takes about 20 seconds. :P

02:20 <Schism> Yeah, even unmodded.

02:22 <Cepheid> Most of the maps I've generated have either been "lots of oil, no uranium" or "lots of uranium, no oil" while the rest are fine.

02:22 <Cepheid> Ah, here we go.

02:23 <Cepheid> ... And there's very little stone in the starting area. 11k. Oh well.

02:24 <Filly_Nightmares> Schism, my cousin uses an 8320E!

02:24 * Filly_Nightmares eees!

02:24 <Cepheid> All I know is my new system, whenever I get to it, will be AMD.

02:24 <Filly_Nightmares> How about GPU?

02:24 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o

02:24 <Cepheid> Not liking the last year of Intel stuff.

02:24 <Cepheid> Dunno yet.

02:26 <Cepheid> Given I run a 4k display, I'd be happy with mmm...

02:26 <Cepheid> Witcher 3, high settings, no hairworks, 2160p at ~60 FPS.

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02:29 * Snapai hwody

02:30 * Schism boops the Snapai with a hot dog. With cheese, wrapped in a croissant.

02:30 <Cepheid> So, basically GPU-wise, I'm looking at either a Vega 64 from AMD, or a 1080 from nVidia. Though with the new RTX 2000 series, I might be able to get away with a RTX 2070.

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02:31 <Schism> Oh yeah. Cephy, Zachtronics has a new game out.

02:32 <Cepheid> Oh?

02:32 <Cepheid> Wait, is it that hacking one?

02:32 <Schism> Yeah, "Exapunks'.

02:32 <Schism> ...

02:32 <Schism> "that hacking one", you say.

02:32 <Cepheid> Heh. :P

02:32 * Schism looks at Cepheid. "When discussing Zachtronics, you ask if it's 'that hacking one.'"

02:32 <Cepheid> I meant in terms of a thematic sense.

02:33 <Schism> That still doesn't narrow it down much.

02:33 <Schism> But yes, alright, Exapunks.

02:34 <Cepheid> Exapunks basically involves you being a hacker.

02:34 <TempestShadow> Can't possibly beat Uplink. :P

02:34 <Cepheid> Compared to other games, where the explanation is you're just a hobbyist programmer or working for a company. :P

02:34 <Schism> In a cyberpunk sense, I know, I know.

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02:35 <Schism> And probably not, TempestShadow, but there are some really good ones of late which are pushing against Uplink. Like Hacknet.

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02:38 <Schism> Gah. You know you've been up too long when you start blanking out about what you're doing.

02:38 <Cepheid> Hum, got coal up. Now for iron.

02:38 * Ali flops over Cepheid. "what cha playin?"

02:39 <Schism> Ali: Spaghetti.

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02:44 <Thelema5> Hello everypony

02:44 <Cepheid> Factorio, Ali. Single-player, but I guess I could make it multiplayer. :P

02:44 <Sombra> feeeee

02:44 <Cepheid> Intent this time is to just do a standard-settings game, and go for launching a rocket in whatever way possible.

02:45 * Ali nods, she's not gonna force Cepheid into a multiplayer.

02:46 <Sombra> You gotta play bf4 in mutliplayer

02:46 <Sombra> That's the only way to play it bruh

02:46 <Cepheid> If you insist.

02:46 <Cepheid> I mean, it's so early in my game that I can start over and lose maybe 15 minutes of progress.

02:46 <Ali> Has Factorio even updated since last time?

02:47 <Cepheid> I don't know. Let me look at the server.

02:48 <Cepheid> Server was running 0.16.36, while current is 0.16.51

02:49 <Ali> Yeah I see that, just got asked to update

02:49 <Ali> Gonna start updating Cepheid

02:50 <Sombra> Have you ever said get wrecked to someone non-ironically?

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02:55 <Cepheid> Take yer time. It'll be at :27050. Other people are free to join the game, as well. Factorio 0.16.51, unmodded.

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02:56 * Stormspark has a friend that makes pony inspired music: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-tDHWkUhuoPp5nXL3NBCdA/videos

02:58 * Thelema5 waves hihi to Stormspark

02:59 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Stormspark and eees at Stormspark!

02:59 * Filly_Nightmares skree

03:01 * Stormspark wingwaves

03:08 <Ali> Cepheid, Factorio is being slow on updates, might take awhile.

03:08 <Cepheid> Like I said, take yer time. :P

03:09 * Ali doesn't want to take too long! Cepheid might be at green bottles by the time she gets logged in!

03:12 <Thelema5> I received a set of full sized stainless steel sporks today, and they're everything I'd hoped they would be

03:13 * Ali takes Thelema5's sporks back to Taco Bell

03:13 <Thelema5> Nuuuu

03:13 <Cepheid> You're giving me too much credit, Ali.

03:13 <Cepheid> I'm fast, but not that fast.

03:13 <Thelema5> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074YWMZ2L/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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03:24 <Schism> I have exactly 14 levels left to get in crafting, and gods alive is that ever a slog. Thankfully, with the weekly rollover, things will be made easier again, however briefly.

03:34 <Thelema5> That sounds like a lot, Schism

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03:34 <Schism> Thelema5: Well, are you familiar with what's generally termed the 'leveling curve'? It's similar to a learning curve.

03:36 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story Updates - August 27th [ http://tinyurl.com/yb4sfgp8 ]

03:37 <Thelema5> Learning curve I know

03:38 <Schism> Mm, it's kind of like that. In a roleplaying game, a character starts out knowing virtually nothing, your baseline person. They quickly grow and learn the basics, but as they progress, those rungs of the ladder - 'levels', in game parlance - grow farther apart.

03:39 <Thelema5> Makes sense

03:39 <Schism> This also equates to, in MMORPG terms, the developers deciding to keep the player on the hook for quite a while longer, to stretch out that subscription.

03:40 * Thelema5 nods

03:40 <Schism> In the game I'm playing, there's a hard cap of level 70 for each of the eight crafting skills. So I have a little ways to go left to get all of them up to that point.

03:40 <Thelema5> Good luck!

03:40 <Schism> Not difficult, just a grind. :S

03:41 <Thelema5> Gotcha.

03:43 * Schism pokes at a different game, though. "Large resource piles, spread far apart..."

03:47 * DashedRainbows licks Thelema5

03:48 * Thelema5 tastes like US tacos

03:50 <DashedRainbows> hmm

03:50 <DashedRainbows> how's you?

03:51 <Thelema5> Relatively unchanged. You?

03:52 <DashedRainbows> far too excited over having multiple buttons

03:52 <DashedRainbows> yay now just to add actual functionality

03:53 <DashedRainbows> They're dynamic too

04:01 <Schism> Lessee, standard boiler and pump array for set of 20 steam engines, check...

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04:04 <Cepheid> Ali has learned a bit of Factorio over the last few months. :P

04:04 <Cepheid> She's taking initiative and changing some of my designs. XD

04:04 <Schism> Nice. o3o

04:05 <Ali> I just thought a 1-4 balancer feeding a 4-4 balanced made sense! :P

04:10 <Schism> Basic coal production, easy as pineapple pizza...

04:10 * Stormspark just spent $100 on a mouse pad...

04:10 <Stormspark> granted it's not just a mouse pad

04:10 <Stormspark> it's an inductive charging station

04:11 <Schism> So what you're saying is that it's a /magic/ mousepad.

04:18 <Schism> Big ol' patch o' crude. I'm going to have to start over, though. These resources are much too close together.

04:25 <Stormspark> mouse pad itself connects to the computer, has its own wireless receiver (don't need to use the mouse's actual receiver"

04:25 <Stormspark> and the mouse itself uses inductive charging kinda like a lot of phones today do

04:28 <Schism> I think this will result in a perfectly viable plastics factory once I get it going...

04:31 * Thelema5 cuts himself off... goodnight everypony. Thanks for talking with me, even as briefly as we did! Means a lot.

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04:44 <Schism> Hum. I /could/ get some sleep. Or, I could make up some tea strong enough to strip the paint off a battleship.

04:48 * Schism has precisely one group of oil slicks within range of his starting point. This is a rather large one, though.

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04:56 <Schism> Bleh.

04:56 <Schism> There is a tiny little patch of stone. 16k. That's all.

05:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Comic: Silverstream Says Goodnight [ http://tinyurl.com/y7a3gtqg ]

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05:47 <Schism> Trains? Ahaha, who needs trains...

05:47 * Schism builds a 50,000-conveyer coal bus.

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05:59 <Koopz> http://www.mrlovenstein.com/comic/1010

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06:06 <Cepheid> So far, all is well. *Bugs attack. Shoots them.* ALL. IS. WELL.

06:12 <Koopz> >this is fine

06:15 <Cepheid> In factorio, I have a bad habit of overdoing it with pollution and forest cutting.

06:17 <Schism> It's easy to do that. Even machines in standby produce pollution, after all.

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07:01 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

07:02 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

07:02 <Finwe> o7

07:02 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

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07:36 <Emmis> Howdy

07:36 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.

07:36 <RazorSharpFang> Yoo

07:37 <Emmis> how's it going

07:37 <RazorSharpFang> I have a new cat

07:37 <ConfusionRift> Just calming down from work.

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08:54 * Sleeping_Nightmares sleepies on ConfusionRift

08:54 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Nini!

08:55 <ConfusionRift> Have a good on.

09:01 <Cepheid> How is cat doing today, RazorSharpFang?

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09:12 <Cepheid> Ali, sorry to bother ye, but I need you to hop off the server for like, 30 seconds.

09:13 * Ali headtilts

09:13 <Cepheid> All good.

09:13 <Cepheid> I forgot to do something when I started up the server. If I shut down my PC, it'll indirectly cause the server to shut down. >.>

09:14 <Cepheid> Anyways, nappytimes for me.

09:14 * Ali nods, is just tyring to get the oil thing so she can turn light oil to petrol

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09:37 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, discharge has dried, we were able to wipe it away, and the eye's looking a bit better.

09:48 * ConfusionRift notices some activity, dies out, sighs, and goes back to writing.

09:53 <Cepheid> Good to hear. Make sure to pay lots of attention to him.

09:59 <RazorSharpFang> Because he has the sniffles, we took our other cat to the vet... in the same cat carrier, and he did NOT like it. Absolutely refused to go in.

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09:59 <Cepheid> Heh.

10:00 <Cepheid> Yeah usually you introduce cats by separating them for a few days. Then allow them to sniff each other through a crack in the doorway for a day or three. Then just let em work the rest of it out the usual way.

10:00 <RazorSharpFang> In hind-sight, washing out the carrier thoroughly would have been a good idea, which we did afterwards.

10:07 <Cepheid> I assume he is wandering about sniffing at everything right now.

10:17 <RazorSharpFang> The older cat is sulking under a bed, and the new cat is sleeping

10:21 <ConfusionRift> "Alright, we got a selection of two cheeses. Mozzarella and cheddar. Which would you choose?" | ...can I try the mozzarella? | "S-suuure." | (tries it) ...can I try the cheddar? | "Okay." | (tries it as well, then flips the counter) THEY ARE BOTH AMERICAN CHEESE!!!

10:21 <RazorSharpFang> I don't know what they expected.

10:22 <Cepheid> Know what is real fun? Telling someone that white and orange cheddar are the same thing.

10:23 <ConfusionRift> They are. It's just color difference.

10:23 <RazorSharpFang> Are they?

10:23 <Cepheid> Especially after serving a bit of each to the person and listening to their explanations of how the two differ in taste.

10:23 <Cepheid> Yeah. It is just food colouring, Razor.

10:24 <ConfusionRift> Cheddar, regardless of color, follow exactly the same processes.

10:24 <Cepheid> Any difference in taste is purely psychological.

10:26 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, started that writing RPG thing madness and whatnot. Well, setting the rules that is. (sighs) It's like making a game. Can't figure how to assign certain parameters.

10:26 <Cepheid> Yup.

10:29 <ConfusionRift> And also how these affect everything.

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11:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1318 [ http://tinyurl.com/ydcurr2s ]

11:08 <ConfusionRift> So many variables... aaaaaand doing math.

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11:44 * Cepheid throws ConfusionRift atop a Valstrax with a wet noodle for a knife.

11:45 <ConfusionRift> You basically gave this guy a plate with steak and pasta. :P

11:45 <Cepheid> Heh.

11:46 <Cepheid> It makes me curious, though. *APPARENTLY* Monster Hunter X and XX were not handled by the "Main" monster hunter team.

11:46 <Cepheid> That team was busy on Monster Hunter: World.

11:47 <Cepheid> So, did they pull the Frontier team, or create a new one for X/XX? It's pretty much the only explanation for the distinct change in new monster designs.

11:49 <ConfusionRift> You know, I wouldn't be surprised. It feels like X and XX are basically the GOTY editions of the previous games while World feels like the one that got the most changes (aside from graphical). Also, I noticed the fluidity in XX looks very Frontier like.

11:49 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

11:49 <Cepheid> The monsters, Valstrax and Astalos, in particular, give me strong vibes of Frontier.

11:50 <ConfusionRift> They feel out of place.

11:51 <Cepheid> Not so much appearance-wise. Though Astolos does appear a bit odd for the series. No, it's more the combat styles.

11:51 <Cepheid> The behaviours are more akin to "Fast, unusual and unpredictable."

11:51 <ConfusionRift> Something that Frontier did plenty, with more varied monsters outside being wyverns and large versions of smaller monsters.

11:52 <Cepheid> And then there's Atlal Ka.

11:52 <Cepheid> I want to know what drugs the team was on for that.

11:53 <Cepheid> Atlal Ka being the "final boss" of XX.

11:53 <ConfusionRift> I should point out there was also a scorpion in Frontier.

11:53 <Cepheid> Which definitely strays from the usual fare a LOT.

11:53 <ConfusionRift> Wait- what?

11:53 <Cepheid> Hold on, let me find a good video.

11:53 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9YH8xnt9aw

11:53 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

11:54 <Cepheid> It's... deceiving in it's battle.

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11:57 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, the tells are tricky, and one could mean 2-3 things.

11:57 <Cepheid> Go to around 1:50

11:57 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Monster Hunter XX Switch Ver. - G4★ Atoraru Ka Solo [MHXX]

11:57 <ConfusionRift> It still doesn't feel very "final".

12:01 <ConfusionRift> ...and then goes to full overdrive...

12:02 <Cepheid> Also, this is Omega, we're talking about. Guy and his buddies are freakishly amazing at Monster Hunter games. He's one of the four who wrecked that one Jaggi waaaaaay back with a gunlance.

12:03 <Cepheid> Also, MHXX has a deviant version of one of your favourite monsters. Diablos.

12:03 <ConfusionRift> ...no.

12:04 <Cepheid> Massacre Demon Diablos. English name appears to be...

12:04 <ConfusionRift> Just... no. (sighs) They made him tolerable in World. I know it's gonna be just baaad in Generations.

12:04 <Cepheid> Bloodbath Diablos.

12:05 <ConfusionRift> "One-Horn Unknown Infected Diablos".

12:05 <Cepheid> Heh.

12:06 <Cepheid> In any case, both games have their difficult monsters, from what I understand.

12:06 <Cepheid> Nergigante and Bazelgeuse apparently are troublesome in MHWorld.

12:06 <Cepheid> And the Behemoth can one-shot even the most well-armoured team.

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12:07 <ConfusionRift> They are. Very troublesome. I'm kinda stuck on Nergigante. I hope that by getting a Pink Rathian armor I can stand a better chance.

12:08 <Cepheid> Also, could be worse. There's a monster in Frontier, Shantien. Beautiful thing, though technically a modified version of Lagia, it's second phase of battle...

12:08 <Cepheid> It hits hard, and apparently has a very fast draining aura.

12:09 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI4RO8ori2A Given the visual effects used, I'm inclined to say MHX and MHXX were handled by Frontier. They focus more on special effects to give a particular feel to the monster, as opposed to visual fidelity of the world.

12:09 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Powerus - MHFG - Shantien Lv175 シャンティエン Enhanced Graphics

12:10 <Cepheid> The "strike" effects of weapons also resemble that seen in X and XX, as well. Large and flashy,

12:12 <ConfusionRift> I like that there isn't the usual strike stutter or jolt of the other games.

12:12 <Cepheid> Did they remove that for MHWorld? I can't recall.

12:13 <ConfusionRift> I think so.

12:14 <Cepheid> Honestly, I kind of hope both variants of the game keep appearing. There are ups and downs for either version.

12:14 <ConfusionRift> Yep, it was removed.

12:14 <ConfusionRift> You know, I wouldn't mind that.

12:15 <ConfusionRift> There's the more active combat-oriented playstyle, and the more exploratory playstyle.

12:15 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

12:16 <Cepheid> There's also the visual style. Nothing against MHWorld, but it's a bit jarring to have the visual style change so drastically.

12:16 * ConfusionRift nods.

12:16 <Cepheid> It loses something in the transition, I find, while gaining something.

12:17 <ConfusionRift> I guess it feels a bit more hand holding.

12:17 <Cepheid> Honestly, the only mechanic that'd work fine in both games, and is demonstrated having done so in MHWorld..

12:18 <Cepheid> Is a single, open map instead of disparately-connected areas.

12:18 <Cepheid> That'd work fine, merged into the old-world style games.

12:19 <Cepheid> That, and maybe the monster interactions, so that the INTERRUPTING RHENOPLOS doesn't constantly focus on me when a Deviljho is ramp- *Gets struck by Rhenoplos.*

12:19 <ConfusionRift> I really don't miss the sectional mapping, especially the unnecessary loading.

12:20 * ConfusionRift sees Cepheid get bumped and sent into another sector.

12:20 <Cepheid> Artifact of sticking with a particular engine for so long. Pretty sure that MH4U and MHXX use the same engine that was designed waaaaaay back when the series started. Only with new features bodged in.

12:20 <ConfusionRift> Great. It's a one way hole. Have to do the whole runaround.

12:21 <Cepheid> Only problem is, at this point, using the MHWorld engine to recreate the aesthetics of it's ancestors would be a bad idea.

12:22 <Cepheid> "WT[REDACTED] Y teh downgrade!?"

12:23 * ConfusionRift sighs.

12:23 <Cepheid> Arguably, also trying to go more mainstream may have hurt the series a tad. I see the occasional complaint by players new to the series about the whole "shared 3 KOs and you're out" mechanic.

12:23 <ConfusionRift> Getting that huntin' itch again.

12:23 <Cepheid> I've had it for a few days, now.

12:23 <Cepheid> That's why I'm all over it. >_>

12:24 <Cepheid> So I apologize for that.

12:24 <ConfusionRift> Heh, it's fine. Might get back to it in the evening.

12:25 <ConfusionRift> And hunt more Pink Rathians with a blade that is as effective as a 2x4 wooden beam.

12:25 <Cepheid> So, about the same efficacy of a typical MHX/MHXX SnS.

12:26 <ConfusionRift> "Hey, do you remember... the teddy?" | The te- oh, the teddy bear of doom and despair! I miss it so.

12:26 <Cepheid> Seriously, my experiences with that game and it's adjusted crafting system makes getting effective weapons tricky. That's another thing that makes me think the Frontier team is behind it. They've got a thing for difficulty.

12:26 <Cepheid> Just glad they haven't thrown Mary Sue at us Westerners yet.

12:27 <ConfusionRift> 5 Rathian rubies? Hah! Hilarious... oh, you're being serious.

12:27 <Cepheid> You'll get 'em.

12:27 <Cepheid> If I can pull off getting four rubies in one run, you can get five over a period of time.

12:28 <Cepheid> I mean sure, it took me about 50 or so hunts before that happened in one run, but still.

12:28 <ConfusionRift> I think my old luck is gone. I used to get the rare garbage easy. Now, it takes so lung to just get uncommons, even through investigations.

12:29 <Cepheid> Ah yeah, mechanics changes for stuff in that game.

12:29 <Cepheid> Not entirely sure how acquiring items works in that game, outside of conventional carves.

12:29 <ConfusionRift> And then have that explosive zit filled wyvern just destroy your hunt.

12:30 <Cepheid> That's nothing new.

12:30 * Cepheid still recalls many times when he was hunting something. SUDDEN DEVILJHO!

12:30 <ConfusionRift> Yep!!!

12:30 <Cepheid> And no matter what you do, he won't leave you be.

12:31 <Cepheid> You fight any Tempered monsters yet?

12:31 <ConfusionRift> Nope. Even though I have Tempered Kirin unlocked, I think.

12:32 <Cepheid> Heh.

12:32 <ConfusionRift> Not THE Tempered one, but A Tempered one.

12:32 <Cepheid> I gotta admit, that mechanic added in MH4U spawned a bunch of new Fun(TM) stuff.

12:32 <Cepheid> Frenzy in MH4U, Hyper in MHX/XX, Tempered in World.

12:34 <Cepheid> Not sure which version of MHWorld I'll be getting. I'm not impressed by the reports of the PC version.

12:35 * Lumindia gives Ceph a hug!

12:35 * Lumindia then places a Bazel scale on their head

12:36 <Cepheid> I mean, for those people who it works for, it works beautifully. Requires somewhat strong hardware if you're using a certain graphical feature.

12:36 <Cepheid> But then there's the large number of reports of people who can't get the game to start, or found problems getting worse after the first official patch.

12:37 <Lumindia> also the shared KOs? I don't mind that

12:37 <Lumindia> it just means you need to git gud

12:37 <Cepheid> It's been standard in the series since the start.

12:37 <ConfusionRift> ^

12:37 <Lumindia> I naturally have a more cautious playstyle

12:37 <ConfusionRift> I have been playing solo anyways.

12:37 <Cepheid> I'm reckless as hell.

12:37 <Lumindia> only going in for damage when I KNOW I have a chance

12:38 <Cepheid> But given I prefer mobility, recklessness isn't exactly a bad thing for me.

12:38 <ConfusionRift> I can be just as reckless... but probably annoying or useless.

12:38 <Lumindia> I use a switch axe

12:38 <Cepheid> Right, so cautiousness is needed.

12:38 <Cepheid> Though, do yourself a favour, Lumindia. Fortune favours those who utilize multiple weapon classes.

12:39 <ConfusionRift> I vary. It all depends on the monster and circumstance. But I mostly gravitate towards Switch Axe and Charge Blade.

12:39 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAGqdygI6oY Lumindia, for the record, this is the "Mary Sue" I keep mentioning.

12:39 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 【MHF-G】最凶再臨、覚醒黒レイア（至天UNKNOWN）【至天征伐戦】フルHD

12:39 <Cepheid> It has no official name. People just call it "UNKNOWN Rathian"

12:40 <Lumindia> ...

12:40 <Lumindia> OW

12:40 <Lumindia> I mean, having a piece of concrete dropped on you IS gonna hurt

12:40 <ConfusionRift> The only problem with variation is that one is constantly looking for upgrades and trying to get parts for things. Alas, not a bad idea to have a bit of everything, and understand each.

12:41 <ConfusionRift> I might even get back to bowgunning and my cannon foddery days.

12:41 <Cepheid> The thing about varying your weapon choices is that you can pick a better weapon for different types of monsters.

12:41 <Cepheid> Small monsters, like the dromes, are terrible to fight with a slow, bulky weapon.

12:42 <Cepheid> On the other hand, a large, heavily-armoured monster, you might want a heavy weapon with ESP or high sharpness and damage to go with it.

12:42 <Cepheid> Or a hammer.

12:42 <ConfusionRift> There are two weapons I completely lost practice with. The hammer and hunting horn.

12:43 <Cepheid> No, the bigger issue with varying weapons is if you decide to go between ranged(Bowgun/Bow) and melee.

12:43 <Cepheid> Since melee can't use gunner armour, and gunners can't use melee armour.

12:43 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and that hidden special element can pfffft.

12:43 <ConfusionRift> Aaaactuallyyyyy.

12:43 <Cepheid> Heh.

12:44 <ConfusionRift> You can use a gunner armor for melee and vice versa. HOWEVER, it makes the armor skills kinda useless.

12:44 <Cepheid> In World?

12:45 <ConfusionRift> Yessir.

12:45 <Cepheid> Nice.

12:45 <Cepheid> In old-world games, the armours are restricted. The only pieces without restrictions are the headpieces.

12:45 * ConfusionRift nods.

12:45 <ConfusionRift> They threw that away.

12:45 <Cepheid> Lumindia: Super-fancy mode Mary Sue at ~6:00.

12:45 <Cepheid> Well, closer to 6:15.

12:46 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, there's also another UNKNOWN type.

12:47 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25OPn3gzFz8

12:47 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

12:47 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 【MHF-G】変幻万化、『妖し化けるミ･ル』初討伐！【新・超難関クエスト≪無双襲撃戦≫】フルHD

12:47 <Cepheid> It has a name, though, unlike the Rathian. Miru.

12:47 <Cepheid> It's basically a modified Nargacuga/Tigrex, ice elemental.

12:48 <Cepheid> With Blue Flame element.

12:48 <ConfusionRift> Could... intuition be considered a reactive stat?

12:49 <Cepheid> I believe it can be.

12:50 <Cepheid> One can intuit where something happen through careful observation.

12:53 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm.

12:53 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlsCi4zUYAECleJ.jpg:large I have no idea what this is, but I would not want to fight it. It's just too cute.

12:54 <ConfusionRift> I'm over-complicating everything.

12:54 <Cepheid> Welcome to software development 101.

12:54 <Cepheid> Or Factorio 101.

12:54 <ConfusionRift> ...that's a snooty fire snotter. :P

12:55 <Cepheid> Be back in a moment. Gonna lay down.

12:55 <ConfusionRift> It's so cuuute. I would never hurt y- (gets bunked and sent flying, while on fire)

12:56 <ConfusionRift> Anjanath! There we go. I was drawing a blank.

12:57 * Lumindia boops Ceph

12:58 <Cepheid> Ow.

12:59 <Cepheid> Oh and one other konster for ye Lumi. Lemme find it.

12:59 <Lumindia> konster?

12:59 <Lumindia> o.o

13:01 <Cepheid> https://youtu.be/QoTLBw4KBp8

13:01 <Cepheid> Monster. Sorry.

13:01 <Cepheid> Raviente. Largest monster in the series.

13:02 <ConfusionRift> Oh, another serpent.

13:03 <Cepheid> Yeah. Capcom loves their serpents.

13:03 <Lumindia> he doesn't look that big

13:04 <Cepheid> Ah right. World has a new large monster. Not sure how it xompares to Raviente.

13:05 <Cepheid> Compares*

13:05 <Lumindia> pretty sure Zorah Magdaros is bigger

13:05 <Lumindia> then again, Raviante is LONG

13:05 <ConfusionRift> Yep. Basically a moving mountain.

13:05 <Lumindia> so... kind of hard to get a good size comparison

13:06 <ConfusionRift> Zorah Magdaros is more of a wider monster. Raviente is mostly long.

13:07 <Cepheid> You would have to compare volume to get a reasonable comparison in terms of 'size'.

13:07 <Cepheid> Otherwise, they each 'beat' each other in various ways. Length, height, width, and so on.

13:07 <Cepheid> Maybe even density.

13:08 <Cepheid> Gotta ask why thrse large ones don't just eat the players though.

13:09 <Cepheid> They could easily stuff a few hundred humans in their mouth. Even Dalamadur could fit about 30.

13:09 <ConfusionRift> Oh, that is cheap.

13:09 <Cepheid> Nope. Gotta summon meteors and swipe/slam.

13:10 <ConfusionRift> I mean, in one swoop. you can fail the quest entirely.

13:10 <Cepheid> Frontier has no grasp of fairness at high levels.

13:11 <Cepheid> Frontier is what happens when the devs want to see just how far the players can and will go.

13:11 <ConfusionRift> "Wait a second. You got eaten! How did you even get here to retry the quest?!" | ... ... ... Don't ask. Ever.

13:11 <Cepheid> Heh.

13:12 <Cepheid> That said, Capcom seems to be losing its mind. Frontier-level difficulty is creeping into World. Behemoth and its meteor for example.

13:13 <Lumindia> well the behemoth encounter emulates actual raid mechanics

13:13 <Cepheid> Yeah.

13:13 <Lumindia> so that's not really a fair comparison

13:13 <Lumindia> It's emulating a different game

13:13 <ConfusionRift> It bothers me they only have certain weapons in Frontier, like the Tonfas.

13:13 <Cepheid> Basically, Behemoth places a rock. Hide behind the rock from meteor.

13:13 <Lumindia> which is precisely how it works in FFXIV

13:13 <Cepheid> Otherwise you die.:D

13:14 <Lumindia> that's literally how his encounter works in XIV

13:14 <Cepheid> I know.

13:14 <Cepheid> I did the battle.

13:14 <Lumindia> so, again, not a fair comparison

13:14 <Cepheid> Still. Funny watching a full MHWorld team getting hit by the meteor .

13:15 <Cepheid> All because the behemoth knocked them out from cover.

13:16 * Lumindia pets CEph

13:16 <ConfusionRift> Hahahaaa! | "Yay, we won by default!"

13:16 <Cepheid> Rock spawned near Behemoth. Behemoth stands up to summon meteor. As it crashes back down, the left paw clips all the players hiding from the meteor.

13:16 <Cepheid> They go flying out from behind the rock just as the meteor impacts. Quest failed!

13:17 <ConfusionRift> Huzzaaaaaaaaaaah...

13:18 <Cepheid> Does Teostra still do the OHKO supernova?

13:19 <ConfusionRift> Dunno. I keep away from the two Fire Felines.

13:19 <Cepheid> Heh.

13:20 <ConfusionRift> The only elder dragon I have encountered and beaten is Kirin... which is odd.

13:20 <Cepheid> Smallest elder dragon yo.

13:21 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah. No more having to take basically the same quest twice to beat an elder dragon.

13:22 <Cepheid> Ah, they got rid of the repel quests?

13:23 <ConfusionRift> I think so. My first encounter with Kirin was also the one I beat it in.

13:23 <Cepheid> Since MH4 that is normal i think.

13:23 <Cepheid> Kirin is usually defeatable in one round now.

13:24 <Cepheid> But yeah, repel seems mostly gone. Only one i am familiar with in MHXX is Lao Shan Lung.

13:24 <ConfusionRift> Oh, big lizard is back.

13:24 <Cepheid> There is a DLC quest involving him having a staggering 68,750 HP.

13:26 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, next highest is 34,000 hp. Forget the monster.

13:28 <Cepheid> Them numbers would be terrifying in World given you can now see the damage you dealt.

13:30 <Cepheid> If i fall silent, i apologize. I am tired and drugged up. I likely fell asleep?

13:30 <Cepheid> ? = .

13:30 <ConfusionRift> No worries. I should crash asleep. It's really late.

13:31 <ConfusionRift> See ya laters, and have a good one.

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14:45 <Schism> Not a Lanner, but instead a much more regal birb.

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18:28 <Thelema5> Hello everypony

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18:43 <Thelema5> The natural products and health supplement company I work for is now selling CBD, a component derived from marijuana, and I'm building out a marketing campaign for it... so I guess I'm a pot dealer now? O.o

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18:59 <CocoPommel> Zoinks

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19:06 <Starlight_Glimmer> So Thelema5 what is the current rate for an eighth? I mean among friends.

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19:07 <Starlight_Glimmer> I mean you could say it's an emerging market. Could be worse.

19:15 <Thelema5> Starlight_Glimmer, I've no idea

19:17 <Thelema5> All I know is that it's 3:17 PM and I still haven't taken a shower

19:17 <Thelema5> O.o

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19:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> See if hot water weren't as expensive I'd take 6 a day.

19:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> As a kid I used to fell asleep in the shower 6_9

19:26 <Starlight_Glimmer> 2nd best place for a nap next to being a passenger in a car on a highway at night while it's raining

19:27 <Thelema5> I've heard that we tend to sleep well while it's raining because throughout our evolution we had a lower chance of being eaten in the rain

19:28 <Thelema5> So we perceive it to be safer

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19:52 <Lumindia> o.o

19:52 <Lumindia> interesting

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20:04 * Lumindia goes squish

20:04 <Schism> The gryphon is a noble birb.

20:07 <Lumindia> ...

20:07 <Lumindia> Starlight_Glimmer... How does one fall asleep in the shower?

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20:07 * Starlight_Glimmer crushes Lumindia and Schism with hugs

20:07 * Lumindia compacts

20:07 <Starlight_Glimmer> Easy. Sit down, close your eyes, start snoring.

20:08 <Starlight_Glimmer> It also helps with you're able to ignore the woman barking at the door.

20:08 <Starlight_Glimmer> ;)

20:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> Selective hearing - it's a blessing

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