00:00 <ADragonDreaming> Mizu armor.
00:00 <ADragonDreaming> and also I needed a bunch to upgrade the ludroth armors.
00:00 <ADragonDreaming> not armors
00:00 <ADragonDreaming> weapons
00:01 <ADragonDreaming> specifically, I needed 4 for the ludroth axe, 3 for the droth drone, and 3 for the mizutsune ... something armor piece.
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00:04 <Cepheid> Right.
00:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Perfect Creations in Plushie Form - Nazegoreng Artist Interview / Spotlight [ http://tinyurl.com/y98eo767 ]
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00:22 <Cepheid> Nom some food and then bed.
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00:37 <Cepheid> I don't know what changed all of a sudden, but man is the antipsychotic hitting me hard tonight.
00:39 <ADragonDreaming> I need... 2 more mizu claws.
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02:01 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
02:01 <Schism> Good evening.
02:01 <Thelema5> What's new?
02:01 * Schism offers Thelema5 some creamed peas on toast, with toasted celery and lightly-caramelized onion, as well as a couple of sliced mushrooms. "Na much. Woke up, about to go back to sleep."
02:01 <Schism> How're you doing?
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02:03 <Thelema5> I don't know. My partner came over tonight to help me remove an air conditioner (it's too heavy for one person to lift). I expected her to be in-and-out, but we chatting a bit and wound up going out to dinner together. Not in a romantic sort of way, more like "I'm hungry and you should eat, we'd might as well eat together" sort of way.
02:04 <Thelema5> She suggested it and it was very unexpected. But at the end of the night I'm still alone. So I don't know.
02:04 <Schism> That's... better than not talking at all, at least. Any sort of contact is positive, and I suspect that was kind of testing the waters, too.
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02:05 <Thelema5> Perhaps. It was hard to see her walk out the door again, even if it was on more amiable terms
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02:05 <Thelema5> How are you?
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02:06 <Schism> Exhausted, I fear, and unable to sleep because the recent rains have rendered the rooms ... well, humid as heck.
02:06 <Thelema5> Yuck. Want to borrow an air conditioner? :p
02:06 <Thelema5> I hate when it's humid inside
02:07 <Thelema5> Have you a fan?
02:07 <Schism> Would you believe that my landlord is of the opinion that he's the only one who should have an AC unit plugged into a window?
02:07 <Schism> And yes, we have numerous fans.
02:07 <Thelema5> Your landlord sounds like a jolly chap
02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1567 [ http://tinyurl.com/yajxol4t ]
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02:11 * DashedRainbows licks Thelema5
02:12 * Thelema5 tastes of an impossible burger
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02:13 <Schism> Impossible burger, hmmmm. https://morr.cc/mc-escher/mc-escher.png
02:14 <Thelema5> Ah ha ha
02:15 <Schism> Though, really, if you're going to do MC Escher... http://i.imgur.com/8tlov.png
02:16 * Schism is now, however, tempted to make up some deviled eggs.
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02:17 <Thelema5> Yum!
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02:17 <Thelema5> I only ever have those during holidays, not sure why. I guess they're a common finger food for gatherings?
02:18 <Thelema5> They're yummy, though
02:18 <Schism> That's probably the long and the short of it. Which is a pity, because they're so delicious, especially with tons of paprika atop.
02:18 <Schism> Of course, you could always make an egg salad sandwich with the same ingredients and a bit of bread.
02:19 * Schism frowns. He should make creamed peas on toast. He's got the peas, the milk, the butter, the flour, the celery salt, the pepper.
02:19 <Schism> (And the toast.)
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02:20 <Thelema5> Do eet
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02:25 <Schism> For the moment, in lieu of making anything up, I'll pull a bit more of this kimchi out of the fridge.
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02:27 <Thelema5> jal meokgesseumnida!
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02:33 * Thelema5 giggles
02:33 <Thelema5> How are you, DashedRainbows?
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02:35 <DashedRainbows> meh, still waiting
02:35 <Thelema5> Obviously, since I doubt you'd be chatting during the proceedure
02:35 <Thelema5> :D
02:37 <DashedRainbows> no, but I would right before
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02:38 <DashedRainbows> anyway code!
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02:39 <Thelema5> HyperDash is hyperdashing
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02:46 * Schism decides to make something simplistic. Chicken noodle soup with cheddar and sriracha.
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02:55 <Schism> Ah, erm.
02:56 <Schism> Kimchi is well regarded for its qualities in the aiding of digestion.
02:56 <Schism> Slightly less well regarded are its aromatic qualities regarding the same.
02:57 * Schism redoubles the fans. And the air fresheners. And possibly a young priest and an old priest.
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02:58 <Thelema5> Tis true, it is of the funk
02:59 <Thelema5> Fermented fish paste is not pleasant on the olfactory
02:59 <Schism> Initially, I have no concerns in regards to that.
02:59 <Thelema5> I've had fish free kimchi, it was less offensive
02:59 <Schism> However, following the procedure of digestion, it becomes something to behold.
02:59 <Thelema5> Aha ha ha
03:00 <Thelema5> But... probiotics!
03:00 <Thelema5> XD
03:00 <Schism> It is indeed.
03:00 <Schism> Incredibly pro, and greatly bio.
03:01 * Thelema5 snerks
03:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: One Track Mind - Good Ol' Days [Glitch Hop] [ http://tinyurl.com/ydh86zol ]
03:10 * Schism collapses once again. A little more sleep will do him no harm.
03:11 <Thelema5> G'night!
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03:23 <CocoPommel> Hi
03:24 <Thelema5> Hey
03:24 <Thelema5> How are you doing?
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03:42 * Thelema5 waves hihi to Ali
03:43 * Ali wavies
03:50 * Thelema5 is shopping for conversion vans
03:55 * Filly_Nightmares hats on Thelema5
03:56 * Thelema5 tries to be a good head
03:57 <CocoPommel> I'm ok thanks. Getting tired. Have to go to a thing tomorrow.
04:00 <Thelema5> It's nearly tomorrow today
04:00 <Thelema5> Is it a bad thing?
04:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Reminder: Sunset Day on Monday! [ http://tinyurl.com/yawezw6r ]
04:11 * Thelema5 frumps
04:13 <CocoPommel> I'm on the west coast
04:13 <CocoPommel> Going to a beach party for my mom's work at a fancy upscale beach
04:13 <Thelema5> Woah, that's special
04:14 <Thelema5> Have fun!
04:16 * Thelema5 offers everypony some chocolate pudding
04:16 <Thelema5> This seems to be my new vice
04:17 <Thelema5> It's not home-made, but it tastes like it is
04:17 <CocoPommel> That's the only kind of pudding I'll eat
04:18 <Thelema5> Yay!
04:18 * Thelema5 also like butterscotch, but realizes that it's not a fan favorite
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04:28 <Thelema5> Guys, Your opinion if you don't mind... when my partner and I went out to dinner tonight, she said that All of her family are making her out to be "the bad guy" for leaving someone with a mental disorder during treatment. Is that how people generally think? Because I feel awful that she has put up with my crap as long as she has. Sure I need her support, but how much should she have t suffer?
04:29 <CocoPommel> Idk honestly. I can't really say. I guess I understand what you're saying
04:29 <Ali> Thelema5, what's your mental disorder if I may ask
04:30 <Thelema5> General Anxiety Disorder and Panic attacks
04:30 <Ali> Ah
04:31 <Thelema5> I've had one professional suspect PTSD
04:33 <Ali> Then what would the PTSD trigger be?
04:34 <Ali> I mean I don't know you that well but the only thing non war ponies might PTSD over is 9/11
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04:38 <Thelema5> Ali It's anything that people experience repeatedly which present feeling of surety of death... in my case communting on highways 7 hour a day while also working 10 hour days with the treat of losing my family an livelihood if I fail to complete the task... for 8 months.
04:38 * Ali hugs Thelema5
04:38 <Thelema5> Has left me terrified of roads and driving fast, bridges, and other such
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04:38 <Thelema5> *threat, not treat, jeez
04:39 * Thelema5 counterhugs
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04:51 <Thelema5> Maybe I'll try going to a yardsale in the morning. if I can get out of bed.
04:52 <Thelema5> I actually stopped at one after going in to the shop today- they even had a bunch of records (my main target) but I found myself unmotivated and just left
04:54 <Thelema5> I now understand the commercials that say things like "loss of regular interests"
04:55 <Thelema5> I would usually be SUPER interested in a thing like that but today I just gave up and walked away
04:56 <Thelema5> I've suffered from anxiety for a while, but acute depression is new for me, guys: how can I deal
04:59 <RazorSharpFang> Doctor and pray
04:59 <DashedRainbows> ?
04:59 <DashedRainbows> Pretty much
05:04 <RazorSharpFang> Speaking of Praying, apparently religious conversion is a known cure for addictions like alcohol/smoking/etc.
05:04 <RazorSharpFang> For some reason.
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05:05 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
05:05 <SunsetShimmer> Not really big on faith stuff myself - at least centered around religion.
05:06 * ConfusionRift tilts his head.
05:06 <SunsetShimmer> Minor discussion point, thats all. xD
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05:07 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P
05:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Pinkie Pie Says Goodnight: Pay It Forward [ http://tinyurl.com/y8ebo6rh ]
05:08 <ConfusionRift> I believe it's more about believing in something or someone that would aid in the passing of such event, especially at times when everything is completely out of one's control. Yes, this tends to deviate to religion for the most parts.
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05:09 <DashedRainbows> How's it going sir rift?
05:10 <ConfusionRift> Could be better, but that's the norm. It's been like that for a while, and I feel it's more about hitting it head-on and with full effort.
05:10 * ConfusionRift pukes oil.
05:10 <ConfusionRift> ...without breaking anything... of course.
05:11 <DashedRainbows> Yuck
05:11 <ConfusionRift> It happens. Sorry.
05:11 * ConfusionRift cleans up and returns.
05:14 * DashedRainbows rolls around
05:15 <ConfusionRift> Looks clean enough for rolling.
05:15 * ConfusionRift has made the chat floor so slippery that he can only walk or run in place.
05:21 <ConfusionRift> ...help...
05:22 * ConfusionRift huggles DashedRainbows as they roll. :P
05:23 * DashedRainbows balls more
05:23 <DashedRainbows> Barks*
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05:57 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows before she heads out. :P
05:57 <ConfusionRift> Have a good one.
06:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: MLP Season 8 In a Nutshell: Ep. 21 "A Rockhoof and a Hard Place" [ http://tinyurl.com/ybnzcn2z ]
06:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1343 [ http://tinyurl.com/yaymzqeg ]
06:21 * ConfusionRift checks the date, and it all makes sense.
06:21 <ConfusionRift> The internet didn't collapse though.
06:24 <ConfusionRift> I hate when the "funny" websites just ruin my favorite things.
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09:38 <Moongoodboy{K}> >>https://youtu.be/gmJ2Bkx2C5A
09:38 <Moongoodboy{K}> >uploaded by discontinued channel
09:38 * Moongoodboy{K} PULLS
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09:52 <Schism> Lumindia_, coming soon, BUM shall be a Caster-Tank.
10:49 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnrW4oan_Mo > For the benefit of ramen-lovers like Cepheid.
10:49 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
10:53 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about I Made FRESH Ramen Noodles From Scratch...
11:10 <Lumindia_> bum?
11:12 <Schism> BlU Mage.
11:13 <Schism> >_>
11:13 <Schism> Er, BlUe*.
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11:36 <ADragonDreaming> Jihan should look into gravity spells.
11:38 <Schism> It'd not be a bad idea, true.
11:38 * Schism makes some macaroni and cheese, into which he puts some tuna and peas.
11:39 * Cepheid awakens.
11:41 <Schism> I should make more use of my pasta machine, for things like ramen.
11:44 <Moongoodboy{K}> better use it, or it might go /pasta la vista/
11:45 <Schism> The thing about /baking/ baking soda is that it turns it into a very strong alkaline, about 10pH, which is just a teensy bit corrosive. So gotta be careful using it. o3o
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11:56 * Cepheid shivers. It's cold today.
11:56 <ADragonDreaming> yep
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12:04 <Moongoodboy{K}> wait, just from baking it? o.o;
12:10 * Finwe noms on Filly_Nightmares
12:11 <Schism> Moongoodboy{K}, yup, it turns into sodium carbonate, which is close in alkilinity to lye.
12:12 <Schism> This is useful for making lutefisk, if you're Finwe, or making pretzels, if you're not.
12:12 <Moongoodboy{K}> oh ._.
12:12 <Schism> Alkalinity*
12:13 <Schism> o3o https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/15/dining/15curious.html
12:14 <Cepheid> Okay.
12:15 <Cepheid> Finwe, are you around?
12:15 <Cepheid> Or rather, is anyone here familiar with interval notation?
12:16 <Schism> Only vaguely.
12:17 <Cepheid> Because I keep getting interval notation corrections wrong, by application of placing numbers in the wrong order.
12:17 <Schism> That, I fear I'm not versed enough to provide assistance on. :<
12:19 <Cepheid> For example, the domain of f(x) = 25 + x^2, is (-infinity, infinity). Fine and dandy. For the range, I used (-infinity, 25]. It didn't accept this. The answer is actually [25, -infinite) which seems backwards to me.
12:20 <Schism> Y... hrm. Yeah, yours should still be viable.
12:21 <Cepheid> Welcome to MyMathLab!
12:21 <Schism> And of course, it's always going to be ( and ) when dealing with ∞.
12:22 <Cepheid> Just to confirm my sanity, I used WolframAlpha. It won't output the answer in interval notation.
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12:29 * Surreal_Nightmares curls up on Cepheid and uses him as a bed! She uses Schism as a blanket and goes sleepies!
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12:29 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Nini!
12:31 <Schism> Sleep tight!
12:33 <Cepheid> Right.
12:34 <Cepheid> So this question wants me to convert from radians to degrees, which introduces accuracy problems because of pi being irrational.
12:34 <Cepheid> I got an answer of 234. Bets on this being correct?
12:40 <Schism> 4.1r? Well, no bets in any event...
12:40 <Finwe> o3o
12:40 * Schism offers Finwe a jar of sodium carbonate.
12:40 * Finwe boops Cepheid.
12:41 * Finwe rakefisker på Schism.
12:42 * Schism headtilts.
12:44 <Cepheid> Schism: Amazingly it was correct.
12:47 <Cepheid> Finwe, I envy you.
12:53 <Finwe> Why?
12:54 <Cepheid> You exceed anything I could ever hope to achieve when it comes to math.
12:54 <Cepheid> I don't know how you put up with the frustration of doing math.
13:00 <Cepheid> There are multiple ways to solve this problem, I know them all, and yet I do not know which one to use. Blah.
13:02 * Finwe hats on Cepheid.
13:11 <Cepheid> In calculating tan x, having been given the quadrant of the function and the result of sin x, I accidentally solved the second half of the question. Which was to give the value of cos x.
13:17 <Finwe> cos x is obviously equal ton
13:18 <Finwe> *to the inverse of tan x, multiplied by sin x.
13:24 * Starlight_Glimmer balances a prawn cracker on Finwe's head.
13:25 <Finwe> !twilight time
13:25 <DerpyBot> It's not Twilight time right now, silly!
13:25 <Finwe> !starlight time
13:25 <Finwe> Starlight time! Starlight time!
13:26 * Finwe bounces around in front of Starlight_Glimmer.
13:27 <Cepheid> "Though your answer is correct, it is not in the form expected blah blah blah"
13:28 <Cepheid> "Express the given quantity in terms of sin(x) and cos(x), cos(PI + x)"
13:28 <Cepheid> It's... not specific as to whether it's expecting the 1 over sin/cos(x) stuff, or the one of the various other identities.
13:32 <Cepheid> Finwe, would you say the answer "cos(PI)cos(x) - sin(PI)sin(x)" is a valid answer to that question?
13:32 <Cepheid> Given the information provided and the answer requested by the question?
13:32 <Cepheid> It is expressed in terms of cos(x) and sin(x).
13:33 <Cepheid> Therefore, it should be valid, but it isn't.
13:43 <roflin> well sin(PI) = 0 isn't it and cos(PI) = -1 ?
13:44 <Cepheid> While this is true, there is some stupidity involved in what form it expects.
13:44 <Cepheid> I've done simplification for other questions like that in the past, and it argues it's invalid.
13:44 <Cepheid> It's up to interpretation of the question.
13:44 <Cepheid> I assume literal interpretation as a majority of previous cases have been literal interpretation.
13:45 <Cepheid> And the best part is, if I put in the expected value after simplification, it still tells me it's wrong.
13:45 <Cepheid> And gives me an example of the formula to use.
13:46 <ADragonDreaming> It occurs to me that my brother works nights and is unlikely to show up early for cleaning things.
13:46 <ADragonDreaming> that said, I should sort breakfast.
13:47 <ADragonDreaming> brb
13:47 <Cepheid> I got it wrong finally.
13:47 <Cepheid> The answer isn't even expressed in terms of cosine and sine.
13:47 <roflin> well I reread the above... and have no idea what they expect
13:47 <Cepheid> It's expressed specifically in cosine.
13:47 <Cepheid> The answer is -cos(x)
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14:27 <Cepheid> I need a knife.
14:28 <ADragonDreaming> To cut a witch?
14:28 <Cepheid> Nah.
14:29 <Cepheid> Stab it in my hand as punishment for yet another spectacular ****up.
14:29 <Cepheid> I'm tired of this
14:29 <Cepheid> I am apparently not smart enough to solve basic mathematics.
14:29 <Cepheid> And because of this, I just keep adding to my debt constantly every time I screw up a math class.
14:29 <ADragonDreaming> I'm not sure I would call sin cos tan all that basic
14:29 <Cepheid> It is to me. Or so I thought anyways.
14:30 <Cepheid> I'm just... tired.
14:30 <ADragonDreaming> take a break then?
14:30 <Cepheid> I know I'm not going to pass any of these math classes, now.
14:30 <Cepheid> So what's the point in even trying to graduate? I'm just adding to my burgeoning debt by retaking the same courses over and over.
14:31 <Cepheid> While paying a school more and more money.
14:31 <Cepheid> Eventually they'll tell me to stop doing the math classes because I've failed them too many times.
14:31 <ADragonDreaming> Defeatist thinking, especially with things like this, is self-fulfilling.
14:31 <Cepheid> Then I'll be rejected a degree altogether, and then I'll have this huge honking pile of debt and nothing for it all.
14:31 <ADragonDreaming> you need to interrupt this train of thought.
14:32 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming, last three semesters have had math classes that I have withdrawn from in every single semester.
14:32 <Cepheid> I have not completed any mathematics courses besides discrete structures 1, which isn't really complete mathematics.
14:32 <Cepheid> Not a single math course.
14:32 <Cepheid> I can't complete them, I can't do it.
14:32 <ADragonDreaming> That doesn't change what I've said.
14:32 <Cepheid> Every semester is the same.
14:32 <Cepheid> I study the material, I practice it, I attend lectures.
14:32 <ADragonDreaming> Can you look for tutoring?
14:33 <Cepheid> And what do I get for it? Nothing but added debt and failure.
14:33 <Cepheid> I have dignity I want to maintain.
14:33 <Cepheid> I am not going to resort to asking tutors for help. I want to figure this out myself.
14:33 <Cepheid> It is how I have done everything else in my life.
14:33 <Cepheid> It is expected of me to figure out everything on my own anyways.
14:33 <ADragonDreaming> By whom?
14:33 <Cepheid> Industry.
14:34 <Cepheid> It's the norm for my field.
14:34 <Cepheid> You figure out everything on your own, through personal self-study.
14:34 <ADragonDreaming> The entire point of education as a whole is that there are things you cannot figure out on your own, and thus must be taught.
14:34 <Cepheid> You know what every professor has told me thus far?
14:34 <Cepheid> Whenever I leave university, I'll still be learning, but I'll be learning on my own, not from a professor.
14:34 <ADragonDreaming> Professors are, in general, terrible educators.
14:34 <Cepheid> Not from a teacher.
14:34 <Cepheid> And they're right.
14:35 <ADragonDreaming> while this is true, you will still be learning from other people.
14:35 <Cepheid> No, I won't.
14:35 <ADragonDreaming> So you plan to work entirely alone, then.
14:35 <Cepheid> Nah.
14:35 <Cepheid> I'll work in a team, it's just..
14:35 <ADragonDreaming> Then you will be learning, one way or another, from the other people in the team.
14:35 <Cepheid> I don't expect my team to teach me how to calculate a fast fourier transform.
14:36 <Cepheid> Because that's not their job.
14:36 <ADragonDreaming> This is true. But it would be a tutor's job.
14:36 <Cepheid> It's not required of a tutor to teach me this. It's not in any of the course materials I am taking now, or in the future.
14:36 <Cepheid> I am expected to learn it on my own.
14:36 <ADragonDreaming> It does not need to be required.
14:36 <ADragonDreaming> Tutoring is a resource that you can opt to use.
14:37 <ADragonDreaming> There is no reason to deny yourself the use of resources that can be available to you.
14:37 <Cepheid> The only thing I am good at is writing code, provided I am given a design, however bare minimum, described to me.
14:37 <Cepheid> Tell me what you want, I'll figure it out and code it.
14:38 <Cepheid> That is what I am designed to do.
14:38 <Cepheid> That is the only reason I exist.
14:38 <Cepheid> I try to create other reasons, but every time I try to fulfill them, nothing comes of it.
14:38 <Cepheid> No rewards, no feeling or senses of worth.
14:38 <Cepheid> I exist for one thing and one thing only, and because of one little area of education, I cannot even get a job to do that.
14:38 <ADragonDreaming> Again, Cepheid, this is a massive negative thought spiral.
14:39 <Cepheid> I am aware.
14:39 <ADragonDreaming> So take steps to stop it.
14:39 <Cepheid> Why? It's pretty much the truth.
14:39 <Cepheid> Denying the truth isn't any better.
14:39 <ADragonDreaming> Debatable.
14:39 <Cepheid> I'm not going to deny what I know to be the truth.
14:39 <ADragonDreaming> Think.
14:39 <Cepheid> I am wasting time and money.
14:39 <ADragonDreaming> This is a thing that cannot be known.
14:40 <Cepheid> Previous experiences say otherwise.
14:40 <Cepheid> I can't do basic math. Somewhere alone the line everything just goes topsy-turvy and gets all messed up to a point where I can't recover it.
14:40 <Cepheid> It is a waste of time, effort and money, all for what?
14:40 <ADragonDreaming> Then get tutoring.
14:40 <Cepheid> You people are persistent.
14:40 <ADragonDreaming> Math is not one of your strengths.
14:40 <ADragonDreaming> So get help with it.
14:41 <Cepheid> How do you go through life asking for help for things?
14:41 <Cepheid> Do you not feel guilt for it?
14:41 <ADragonDreaming> No.
14:41 <ADragonDreaming> Why should I?
14:41 <Cepheid> Imposing on someone else's life, even if they get money from it?
14:41 <Cepheid> I dislike being a burden upon other people, regardless of the justification.
14:41 <ADragonDreaming> From a high level perspective, society does not work unless we help each other.
14:41 <Cepheid> Especially when there are things that I can do myself.
14:42 <Cepheid> Things that I am EXPECTED to do by myself.
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14:42 <ADragonDreaming> That expectation seems strongest from yourself.
14:42 <ADragonDreaming> This is an unhealthy expectation.
14:42 <Cepheid> Fine, you want to know why it's so strong?
14:42 <ADragonDreaming> It is entirely impossible to do everything on your own.
14:42 <Cepheid> Because it's all I've ever done my entire gods damned life.
14:43 <Cepheid> I have had to figure out how to do everything on my own, either because I had no friends who would talk or sit around me for any extended period of time to help me, or I had people who treated me like shit because I was plagued or some other bull****.
14:43 <Cepheid> Fine, I admit it.
14:43 <Cepheid> I'm trying to prove a point to everyone around me.
14:43 <Cepheid> That I am smart.
14:43 <Cepheid> Because people look at me like I am.
14:43 <Cepheid> They treat me like I am.
14:43 <Cepheid> I am not bloody friggen smart! Stop telling me that!
14:44 <Cepheid> Guh, now I'm just blaming others.
14:44 <Cepheid> What a failing of me again.
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18:52 * Ali yawns and flops next to Cepheid
18:54 <Cepheid> Hoiyo.
18:54 <Ali> Seen the progress of the factorio world Ceph?
18:55 <Ali> I haven't been on it since Thurs but the trains have started.
18:55 <Cepheid> Not yet, alas. I'll be on later, probably.
18:55 <Ali> Its fine, not a rush dear
18:55 <Ali> I'm trying to learn about trains and the automated controls
18:55 <Ali> But as of right now our iron output is not up to snuff
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19:40 <Schism> Mmm. A nice $3 sausage, near-expiry but still tasty. A pound and a half of meat there, even if a lot of it is filler.
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19:48 <Thelema5> Mmmm, I was just thinking about sausage before logging on
19:48 <Schism> It's more of a salami than anything.
19:49 <Schism> Not as a good as a dry-cured sausage by any stretch of the imagination, but decent enough.
19:49 <Thelema5> Aah. Well I was thinking of having a sausage and pepper wedge
19:49 <Thelema5> But salami sounds great
19:50 <Thelema5> That's one thing I have not found an acceptable plant-based version of. I have a GREAT pepperoni recipe, though. I wonder if I could use the same base with different spices?
19:50 <Schism> Hmmm, quite likely.
19:51 * Thelema5 goes to look us salami recipes
19:53 <Thelema5> Hmm, meatprocessingproducts.com says the standard recipe is: 2 pounds ground beef, 1/4 teaspoon garlic powder, 1/4 teaspoon onion powder, 1/2 teaspoon mustard seed, 1/2 teaspoon curing salt, 1 tablespoon coarsely ground black pepper, 1 teaspoon red pepper flakes (optional), 1 teaspoon liquid smoke flavoring
19:53 <Schism> Hmm, that does sound more or less about right. What's the big difference between that and a pepperoni stick?
19:54 <Thelema5> My pepperoni recipe is for 1 pound, so I could just halve everything else
19:54 <Schism> Everything except the garlic.
19:55 <Thelema5> Yeah, my recipe is here https://veganhuggs.com/vegan-pepperoni-recipe/ if you want to compare
19:55 <Thelema5> (not literally mine, but the one I use)
19:55 <Schism> Hmmmm, different enough, I suppsoe.
19:55 <Schism> suppose.*
19:57 <Thelema5> I'd have a hard time getting that classic salami greasiness, though. Oh well.
19:57 <Thelema5> Maybe if I incorporated some coconut oil...
20:00 <Schism> That could do the trick, perhaps...!
20:00 <Schism> Oh, Thelema5. You're familiar with the numerous uses of lye in the kitchen, right?
20:02 <Schism> Can't really make pretzels without a strong alkaloid, after all.
20:02 <Thelema5> Right!
20:03 <Thelema5> Or a good Surstr�mming for that mattter
20:03 <Thelema5> *matter
20:03 <ADragonDreaming> Cooking is the oldest form of applied chemistry
20:03 <Schism> Did you know that you can make a rather strong alkaloid, not quite as strong as lye, but easier to obtain and use for food grade stuff, by putting baking soda in the oven at 300F for an hour, on some aluminium paper?
20:03 <Schism> Er, aluminium foil*
20:03 <Thelema5> No, never heard that. What does it produce?
20:04 <Schism> Well, baking soda is sodium bicarbonate. Heating it at that temperature for a while produces sodium carbonate, which is also used in place of lye for making soda glass.
20:05 <Schism> It also has a pH of around 10.5, in comparison to sodium bicarbonate's pH of 8.3.
20:05 <Thelema5> Cool beans!
20:05 <Schism> So next time you want to make handmade Bavarian pretzels, lutefisk or alkali noodles (which are great for ramen), you can use that.
20:06 <Schism> (It is quite good for cancelling the acidic nature of sourdough crusts, giving them their trademark chewy texture and more neutral flavour which you get in lye-dipped pretzels.)
20:06 <Thelema5> Lutefisk, that's what I was thinking of.
20:07 <Thelema5> I've heard of using baking soda to make spaghetti more like lo mein noodles
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20:08 <Thelema5> Which of course is silly since real lo mein noodles are egg noodles, but whatever works
20:08 <Schism> Yes, but that's only a little more. Alkaline noodles traditionally, in the East, use a mixture of different products, but straight sodium carbonate can be used in and of itself, without the need for eggs.
20:08 * Thelema5 nods
20:08 <Schism> It also still gives them that eggy, slippery texture and taste.
20:12 <Thelema5> This guy is having a really bad day https://youtu.be/afpnkCOsMFU?t=15m20s
20:13 <Schism> That is... yeah.
20:13 <Thelema5> He's really out in the middle of nowhere, too
20:14 <Thelema5> 30 miles from a road
20:16 * Schism hums, "In deaf'nin silence, outwait the tide..."
20:17 <Schism> And yeeesh, yeah. Thankfully, we do live in the days of GPS... it's good that he escaped with his life at least.
20:26 * Sleeping_Nightmares wigglewaggles at Schism and pushes him onto his back! She uses him as a bed
20:28 * Schism thinks Sleeping_Nightmares should wake up now that it's 4 PM, and so beeps incessantly.
20:28 <Thelema5> Schism, do you know of a good chili recipe?
20:28 <Schism> Not in so many words.
20:28 * Sleeping_Nightmares chews on Schism's nosie!
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20:29 * Filly_Nightmares gnaws!
20:29 * Schism ows. ;.;
20:29 <Schism> Thelema5, I've never felt that a recipe is what you need for a good chili.
20:31 <Thelema5> Hmm, I guess? I've always relied on helping my partner make chili and I'm not sure what alchemy was used
20:31 <Schism> So I'll buy, like two bulbs of garlic, a bunch of tomatoes and peppers, onions, chilis, a can or two of ale or stout depending on how bright I want the chili, and then from there the sky's the limit.
20:31 * Thelema5 nods
20:31 <Schism> It is, ultimately, to taste. I'm very tempted to make a zucchini and eggplant chili now.
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20:34 <Schism> There's a lot of things you can do to make a really good chili.
20:34 <Schism> Tasting it frequently to see how the ingredients meld is one of them.
20:40 <Thelema5> Gotcha
20:41 <Thelema5> Thanks!
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20:52 <Lumindia_> so who saw the new episode?
20:53 <Thelema5> I'm way behind
20:53 <Thelema5> I honestly thought the season was done, guess not?
20:53 <Thelema5> Was good?
21:00 <Ali> US Thelema5 only recently aired Episode 22
21:00 <Ali> Several other countries have already aired the finale
21:01 <Lumindia_> so you saw it Ali?
21:02 * Ali nods, but isn't sure if the discussion should be opened now or not? Unicorn confused due to all early releases and stuff and blargh
21:06 <PinkieShy> So the president was in this city.. o.o
21:07 * Starlight_Glimmer turns foal size and naps on Lumindia_
21:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Radiarc - Aleph Null [Hybrid Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/ybhjv9um ]
21:08 * Lumindia_ pets smol glimglam
21:13 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, did he adopt any boats?
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21:16 <Thelema5> Sorry if that doesn't make sense, he famously made many inappropriate comments about boats that washed ashore during the hurricane
21:17 <Thelema5> https://youtu.be/uFj4vOc4GIY
21:29 <Thelema5> I should probably take a shower, especially since I powerwashed the exterior of my house today and I'm covered in all sorts of nasty stuff
21:29 * Lumindia_ morgmlrgm
21:31 <Thelema5> I also managed to impale my ankle with the ground-spike of a garden sprinkler... much blood was shed
21:32 <Lumindia_> the blood god is pleased
21:32 <Lumindia_> also ow
21:32 <Thelema5> Heh
21:32 <Thelema5> Should be okay, rinsed out the wound and applied an antiseptic creme
21:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> But how are you going to turn into a zombie then?
21:43 * Lumindia_ leans against GlimGlam
21:43 * Lumindia_ snuggle
21:46 * Starlight_Glimmer wraps around Lumindia_'s neck
21:46 <Lumindia_> o.o
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22:00 * Thelema5 arms himself with two cans of wasp spray, and goes to destroy a civilization
22:00 <Thelema5> Wish me luck
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22:02 <Starlight_Glimmer> Genocide! Best activity with a bit of time at hoof :3
22:07 <Lumindia_> Kill all the wasps
22:07 <Lumindia_> Make them watch as you slowly exterminate them one by one
22:08 <Lumindia_> Make them feel nothing but pure agony as you tear their wings off and delight in the joy caused by their suffering as they succumb to the poison that is a can of RAID
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22:08 <Lumindia_> Kill them all
22:08 <Thelema5> Nah, I covered the whole hive with chemical weapons. There were no human casualites
22:08 <Lumindia_> All of them
22:08 <Lumindia_> Leave none alive
22:08 <Thelema5> All ded
22:08 <Lumindia_> Zul is pleased with your work
22:08 <Lumindia_> The body count continues to climb
22:09 * Starlight_Glimmer has got an odd feeling Lumindia_ is enjoying murder
22:09 <Lumindia_> I feel no remorse when the victims are wasps, hornets, or yellowjackets
22:10 <Lumindia_> Honeybees are fine, though
22:10 <Lumindia_> I tolerate them
22:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> I don't like honey
22:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> So they can buck off too
22:10 <Lumindia_> :<
22:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> Robobees are the future
22:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> :3
22:11 <Lumindia_> actually nearly twisted my ankle bolting away from a couple of yellowjackets this morning
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22:11 <Lumindia_> They're on the door, and I'm just standing there, trying to work up the nerve to go inside
22:11 <Lumindia_> one of them lifts off, and I just BOLT
22:12 <Lumindia_> so yeah
22:12 <Lumindia_> that was fun
22:12 <Lumindia_> >.>
22:13 <Thelema5> Yellowjackets are of the devil
22:14 <Thelema5> Starlight_Glimmer, I don't like honey either, but honeybees are great crop pollenators, so we kinda have to get along
22:14 <Thelema5> It's a symbiotic relationship
22:14 <Starlight_Glimmer> again: robobees!
22:14 * Lumindia_ lays on Glimmer
22:14 <Lumindia_> No
22:14 <Starlight_Glimmer> Make perfect spys too!
22:14 <Lumindia_> bad
22:15 <Lumindia_> I must snuggle you as punishment
22:15 <Thelema5> Great, lets give skynet a stinging army
22:15 * Lumindia_ attempts to nibble on GlimGlam's ear gently
22:15 <Starlight_Glimmer> YES!
22:15 <Lumindia_> o wo
22:16 <Thelema5> There are two chipmonks yelling at each other on a tree outside my window
22:17 <Thelema5> So sute
22:17 <Thelema5> *cute
22:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> So in like super high pitched voices?
22:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> :3
22:17 <Thelema5> Yus
22:17 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 one of them might be alvin and the other one yelling at Alvin :P
22:19 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/ESJaPmfbius?t=24s
22:19 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
22:19 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about A Short Guide to Chipmunk Noises | National Geographic
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22:38 <Thelema5> Week old fries should be okay to reheat, no?
22:39 <Thelema5> They look and smell ok
22:41 <SunsetShimmer> I....wouldn't chance it
22:42 <Lumindia_> when in doubt, throw it out
22:42 <Thelema5> They're already in the oven
22:42 <Thelema5> O.o
22:43 * Thelema5 does it in the name of science
22:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> Gross
22:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'd suggest nibbling on Lumindia_ instead, but silly vegetarians.
22:46 * Starlight_Glimmer puts back the spice rub
22:46 * Lumindia_ nibbles on GlimGlam's ears
22:46 * Starlight_Glimmer is too sweet for consumption
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22:58 * Lumindia_ dotes on the GlimGlam
23:14 <Thelema5> The task is done, the fries are eaten. Only time will tell if my GI is beaten.
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23:17 <Lumindia_> Roll a saving fortitude throw
23:18 <Thelema5> rolls a 1!
23:19 * Thelema5 has an iron constitution
23:22 <Schism> On consideration, I should undoubtedly clean out one of these spice jars that I have, and use THAT...
23:23 <Thelema5> Use it for...?
23:23 <Schism> Storing strong alkalides.
23:23 <Thelema5> Aaah, great idea!
23:24 <Thelema5> Is it glass?
23:24 <Schism> Yup!
23:24 <Thelema5> Perfect
23:24 <Schism> I'll want to clean it out perfectly, though.
23:25 <Thelema5> Like that time sheldon helped amy farrah fowler in her lab
23:26 <Schism> I do hope that I'm not as bad as Sheldon.
23:26 <Ali> Cepheid, I'm trying my first ever try at a fully automated dual train system. I hope it works..
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23:31 *** Changeling_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
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23:43 * Ali glomps RazorSharpFang
23:45 <RazorSharpFang> Good morning
23:46 * Ali did it RazorSharpFang! She has a working two train line in SP!
23:46 <RazorSharpFang> yey
23:46 <ADragonDreaming> excellent!
23:46 * Thelema5 jumps around
23:59 * Filly_Nightmares eeees and skreees loudly!
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