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00:00 <Thelema5> Hmm, I just received a phone call from my mostly estranged father. We speak maybe 3 times a year, always about holidays. He wanted to know what I was planning on doing for American Thanksgiving since my partner left me, and we usually attend his dinner together along with her mother.
00:00 <PinkieShy> Got some plant based bug repellant
00:01 <Thelema5> I told him I have no idea what the future holds. Then he asked if stuffing made with turkey gizzards is okay- knowing that we're both vegetarians. I told him to make whatever he likes.
00:01 <Schism> Hm, that... do you think that it would be worth it? Reconnecting with your folks is almost certainly a good idea, but would the engagement also cause you additional stress?
00:02 <Thelema5> Schism, getting there would cause additional stress. I can't really drive, much less long distance on highways. I have panic attacks
00:02 <Schism> PinkieShy, beware of the idea that what's 'natural' is always 'good'. Belladonna is a perfectly natural plant, and I certainly wouldn't go sticking it in my eyes.
00:02 <ADragonDreaming> Arsenic is natural.
00:02 <Schism> Mm. So you'd wind up having some concerns there.
00:03 <Thelema5> re: stuffing... he said: well, I'd strain out all the bones and stuff... it's sweet of him to try, but some people have a hard time understanding a plant based diet
00:03 <Cepheid> So aside from sedating me considerably, taking an increased dose doesn't do too much to me on the night I take it.
00:03 <Thelema5> Sedation is good, though
00:03 <Schism> Cepheid: That's at least a positive.
00:04 <Schism> Thelema5: That, uh... kinda the point of chicken broth is that you don't wind up straining out the bones, you're still getting the marrow.
00:05 <ADragonDreaming> Sedation is good ... provided you don't have to be, like, aware and awake.
00:05 <Thelema5> Yah
00:05 <Cepheid> Long story short, don't drive, don't operate large machinery, and especially don't start doing donuts on a forklift truck.
00:06 * Schism throws Cepheid onto a bunch of suspiciously similar trucks rolling forward in an odd pattern along a series of roads, trucks which will invariably crash and explode.
00:07 <ADragonDreaming> Jump across the tops?
00:07 * Cepheid goes limp and starts flying about atop the trucks as they crash.
00:08 <Schism> And that's how you play Clustertruck.
00:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Adorable OC's and Smooth Style - Possumface Artist Interview / Spotlight [ http://tinyurl.com/y8zx2eq7 ]
00:09 <Schism> Probably the worst thing about CT is how I insist on beating the levels without extra abilities.
00:09 <ADragonDreaming> CT?
00:09 <Cepheid> A lot of people do.
00:09 <ADragonDreaming> oh, Clustertruck.
00:09 <Schism> A lot do -- but not all that many in comparison.
00:09 <ADragonDreaming> CT, to me, is Chrono Trigger.
00:10 <Schism> Yeah, sorry, I should've been more clear.
00:10 * Schism mutters at Chrono Break and wishes Squeenix would do something...
00:10 <PinkieShy> Schism its peppermint oil and such.
00:11 <ADragonDreaming> With sane copyright limits they would either be forced to do something or allow others to do something.
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00:12 <Schism> It's been... hrm, 15 years since Chrono Cross? Oh, 19ish. Still seems fine for maintenance IMO.
00:12 <ADragonDreaming> See, but to me, sane is "20 years"
00:12 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, here is a great article my boss wrote about natural insect repellents, including a recipe https://www.villagevitality.com/blogs/learn/essential-oils-for-pest-control
00:13 <Schism> I know, and I agree, but even so.
00:13 <ADragonDreaming> My opinion is as follows:
00:13 <Thelema5> It should be noted, that although his base of operations is in hippie central USA, he makes a point of reinforcing that "DEET is safe"
00:13 <Cepheid> So, small story.
00:13 <Schism> No, what annoys me is that despite shutting down noteworthy projects, they're not doing anything with the item itself...
00:13 <Cepheid> You know how when people want to know how to do something, the best solution is to google it or look it up? And how people simply cannot grasp this?
00:13 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 what i don't get is the wristband i got that repels the bugs is the same exact stuff in the stuff i got for my dogs..
00:14 <PinkieShy> It says it can have allergy reaction on human skin.. But yet the wristband is for humans with the same exact stuff..
00:14 <Schism> Cepheid: You're a TA, so I can see this going in an amusing direction.
00:14 <Schism> And yes.
00:14 <Cepheid> PinkieShy: The allergy doesn't affect 100% of people.
00:14 <Cepheid> Schism: Students asked some questions, and they didn't know what to do. I wrote down two keywords, and a website name. I told them to google the terms and the website.
00:14 <PinkieShy> If so i could spray it on my arms and if a bug gets on me.. They'll be gone fast.
00:14 <Cepheid> 10 minutes later, they call me over. They figured out what they needed to do.
00:15 <Schism> Amazing!
00:16 <ADragonDreaming> Copyright belongs only the original holder, and cannot be transferred. For the term of its existence, the holder can license its use to others. Corporate entities can only hold copyright if it was their team that created it - in the event of corporate dissolution, copyright is similarly dissolved.
00:16 <ADragonDreaming> Aforementioned 20 year limit can only be renewed by new creations with the same material.
00:16 <ADragonDreaming> Want to keep hold of it? Make a sequel.
00:17 <Schism> Point of order.
00:18 <Schism> What about a rerelease with new material?
00:18 <ADragonDreaming> Gets you the right to apply for an extension.
00:18 <ADragonDreaming> Extensions would have a hard limit of some kind.
00:19 <ADragonDreaming> At some point work becomse public domain regardless of corporate entities holding it.
00:20 <Schism> I don't mind the idea of what you're proposing, though I do still maintain a certain inherent bias towards copyright holders being at least able to maintain their own work through the perpetuity of their human lifespan.
00:20 <ADragonDreaming> Sure.
00:21 <ADragonDreaming> But that's the point of continuing to do things with it.
00:22 <ADragonDreaming> You could put in provisos for individual holders still being accorded some measure of royalties/profits for their lifespan, even if they're no longer able to shut down other people doing things with the propety.
00:22 <Schism> Well, aye.
00:22 <ADragonDreaming> *property
00:22 <ADragonDreaming> And, of course, the copyright itself can't be inheritied.
00:23 <Schism> The malicious part of my brain is hinging upon Citizens United right now, and I'm trying to ignore it because that's not how that should work.
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00:23 <ADragonDreaming> I'm not fully familiar with Citizens United except as having effects that I'm not a fan of.
00:24 <Thelema5> Aleister Crowley's works entered the public domain this year
00:24 * Schism boops the Surry with some peppered steak with mushroom gravy and seared potatoes and onions!
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00:24 <ADragonDreaming> I'm sure that enraged someone.
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00:25 <Schism> Mmn, the whole thing is that corporations as a singular entity have a right to free speech, which is one of the inalienable rights documented in the US' founding structure.
00:25 * Filly_Nightmares mewls at Schism and feeds him food!
00:25 <ADragonDreaming> That's fine.
00:25 <ADragonDreaming> They don't need to be accorded other rights best reserved to individuals.
00:26 <ADragonDreaming> I disagree with "Campaign donations" being "Speech"
00:26 <Schism> Aye, that's where we run into the sticking point.
00:27 * Schism wonders what kind of food Filly_Nightmares is producing.
00:27 * Filly_Nightmares kneads floof into Schism mouf!
00:27 <ADragonDreaming> Of course you could cut that knot from a different side by instituting hard limits on campaign spending.
00:29 * Schism does not subsist on floof!
00:30 * ADragonDreaming shaves all the floof.
00:30 <Schism> You can cut that one a number of different ways.
00:30 * Cepheid yawns.
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00:43 * Filly_Nightmares mewls at Schism
00:43 * Filly_Nightmares floofsplodes!
00:43 * ADragonDreaming reverses entropy.
00:43 * Schism floofsplodes Filly_Nightmares' connection. Wait. That's already happened.
00:43 * Filly_Nightmares skreeeeeeeesplodes!
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00:59 <Cepheid> I think I should go lay down in bed.
01:00 <ADragonDreaming> yah
01:14 * Schism finishes wrapping his pigs.
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01:28 <Thelema5> Hmm. So I just got an unexpected call from my "ex?" partner who said she just missed hearing my voice; she then talked for 30 minutes about random stuff, family matters, asking how I am, etc
01:29 <Thelema5> What should I make of that? I asked her to come home and she just said "I'm not ready for that yet". Yet? Does that mean that it'll happen in the future?
01:29 * Thelema5 is confused
01:30 <ADragonDreaming> It means she is also confused
01:30 * Thelema5 sighs
01:30 <Thelema5> ADragonDreaming, why do you have to make so much sense?
01:30 <Schism> I think she needed a pause to sort herself together. And it's clear she still loves you.
01:30 <ADragonDreaming> Because I have an outside perspective.
01:31 <Thelema5> She said she did last week, Schism... the old "I still love you but I I just can't be with you" line
01:32 <SunsetShimmer> She can still worry, of course
01:32 <Schism> I know. But that's an old saw for a reason.
01:32 * Thelema5 nods
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01:44 * Filly_Nightmares meow
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01:59 <Schism> Thelema5: last panel is more or less how I feel about most interaction. http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1620.php
02:03 * Thelema5 snerks
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02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1573 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycb8ckqz ]
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02:10 * ADragonDreaming takes the absent Filly_Nightmares and applies limpet to Schism
02:11 * Schism blinks.
02:11 <ADragonDreaming> Meanwhile, Jihan no longer has to make golems himself.
02:11 * Schism in turn puts Changeling_Nightmares on Adra's head, between his horns.
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02:12 <Schism> Adra: Hmmm. He's gonna have some fun with that.
02:12 <ADragonDreaming> He's also now a Pay to Win scrub.
02:12 <Schism> ... magic massage staff?
02:13 <Schism> Aaaand yes. Jihan is now exactly that.
02:14 <RazorSharpFang> Good morning
02:14 <Schism> Of course, he'll have to study for ages to get the full use out of all that. Just because you have the Sword of Ages doesn't mean you know how to swing it.
02:14 <RazorSharpFang> Aren't all swords the same enough?
02:14 <ADragonDreaming> some are magical.
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02:16 <Schism> And no, not all swords are the same. A hand-and-a-half blade demands an entirely different style of handling than, say, a khopesh.
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02:16 <RazorSharpFang> I mean straight-swords. Curved swords are different enough to be in a separate training category.
02:16 <ADragonDreaming> Still no.
02:16 <RazorSharpFang> But there's not that much difference between a broadsword and longsword.
02:16 <Schism> Very, very different balances.
02:17 <ADragonDreaming> Claymore compared to short sword
02:17 <ADragonDreaming> they are both straight, but require very different styles
02:17 <RazorSharpFang> ADragonDreaming, Okay, but a Claymore and a Zweihander are similar enough.
02:17 <Schism> Consider that a knife and a sword have similar profiles, but swinging those two are very different cases.
02:17 <ADragonDreaming> perhaps, but they were developed in different cultures.
02:17 <ADragonDreaming> and therefore likely had some different uses and methods.
02:18 <ADragonDreaming> all that said, he may or may not have to study, the whole thing about Jihan's book absorption is he gets the full knowledge
02:18 <Schism> Also, if you're not used to having something at your disposal, then you won't immediately consider it as an option.
02:19 <Schism> Jihan has just learned 85 different options. It's going to take some time for him to recognize that they're immediately available to him.
02:19 <Schism> And that's going to slow him down.
02:19 <ADragonDreaming> somewhat
02:20 * Schism sneezes about 27 times in a row. ._.
02:20 * DashedRainbows licks Thelema5
02:21 <Schism> I think the most worrisome part of that facility, Adra, is the last line. "Upgradable."
02:21 <DashedRainbows> gesundheit, Schism
02:22 <ADragonDreaming> yep
02:22 * Thelema5 wonders why he is working at 1:22 PM
02:23 <Thelema5> *10>22
02:23 <ADragonDreaming> See, and now what I want is some guild to come after him.
02:23 <ADragonDreaming> so we can see the dungeon nonsense.
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02:33 <PinkieShy> I hope its okay to advertise here.. But I'm streaming Undertale if you wanna come watch :)
02:34 <PinkieShy> twitch.tv/coolmariodude
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02:35 * DashedRainbows sighs and licks PinkieShy and sighs again
02:36 <ADragonDreaming> ah, the bros.
02:38 <ADragonDreaming> twitch demands I log in to say things in the twitch chat.
02:38 * Changeling_Nightmares sneezies
02:39 * Schism sneezeskrees.
02:40 <Schism> PinkieShy, hmmmm, what path are you taking?
02:41 <DashedRainbows> how's the Thelema5 today?
02:42 <ADragonDreaming> PinkieShy has clearly played this game before, based on text skipping.
02:43 <Schism> Yes.
02:43 <ADragonDreaming> Also based on skill with lasers.
02:43 <Schism> PinkieShy, how dare you skip through the synopsis of Mew Mew Kitty Castle?
02:43 <ADragonDreaming> hahaha
02:45 <ADragonDreaming> one of those block puzzle things actually stumped me for a bit. forget which one.
02:45 <ADragonDreaming> spiiiiiiiiders
02:45 <Schism> Spiiiiider.
02:46 <Schism> Nah, you don't have to read everything. X3
02:47 * ADragonDreaming whistles along to the tune
02:47 <ADragonDreaming> I lack a twitch account, myself.
02:48 <Schism> PinkieShy, they're better raw.
02:49 <ADragonDreaming> while this is true... IIRC, you have to be horrible person to know this.
02:50 <Schism> Not really? They restore that amount of HP during Asgore's fight.
02:50 <ADragonDreaming> the instant noodles?
02:51 <Schism> Yeah, there are some fights where Serious Mode is turned on.
02:51 <ADragonDreaming> I thought that you only stuffed them down raw if you were on a - ah.
02:51 <ADragonDreaming> okay.
02:52 <ADragonDreaming> and now, the homage to FF6.
02:52 <Schism> Wonder if PinkieShy will beat the maze.
02:54 <Schism> There is actually a path through the maze. But since you stepped on a tile, you still have to fight a monster.
02:58 <Schism> Alas - sleep beckons...
03:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Mane In Green - Haiku (feat. Wubcake) [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/y86rknym ]
03:17 <Thelema5> Hmm... microwave soft pretzels are the greatest thing since, well, twisted microwaved bread
03:17 <ADragonDreaming> I am watching, t hough sleepily
03:17 <Schism> Mwehehe. A pun competition with Lauren Goodnight was not on my list of Things to Do Tonight, but if I can...
03:24 <Thelema5> ... Why is netflix missing season 4 or he original twilght zone?
03:25 <Schism> As I recall, that's when it switched publishers for a little while.
03:25 <Thelema5> That's obnoxious
03:25 <Schism> The show went back and forth in its latter years, and also there was a brief period where it found itself with hour-long episodes.
03:26 * DashedRainbows glomps Thelema5
03:27 * Schism turns the channel to grey and black. "These were the times when it often found itself on its latter legs, but - by ironic measure - often found itself in the bargain. A devil's bargain. A bargain which could only be found in..."
03:27 <Thelema5> Then there was Night Gallery
03:28 <Schism> That one I've never seen, oddly.
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03:28 <Schism> Oh. Thelema5, have you ever done anything more in the exploration of URU?
03:29 <Thelema5> Which was a great show hinderd by it's own obscurity, with direct references to Lovecraft et al
03:30 <Thelema5> Schism, sadly no. I've not had the motivation lately- can barely get out of bed.
03:30 <Thelema5> I've not showered in 5 days O.o
03:30 <Schism> I know, but some interests ... um...
03:31 <Thelema5> I'm really kinda struggling here
03:31 <Schism> Yeah... have you at least been working a little?
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03:31 <Thelema5> I work every day, it's my primary focus
03:32 <Thelema5> But I work from home, so no personal hygine or anything really applies
03:32 * Schism nods, "But as you showed earlier, you have some motivation in cooking, and... I dunno. I just figured a game about exploration would spark some interest."
03:32 <Schism> But if nothing else, for your own damn health, take a shower.
03:33 <Thelema5> I wake uo, work all day, have dinner- then sleep.
03:33 <Schism> And... maybe some laundry. How big is that pile, 3 feet now?
03:33 <Thelema5> *up
03:34 <Thelema5> Nah, I haven't really changed clothes much
03:34 * Schism pokes the Jaye. "I have on very rare occasion spent several days without those ablutions. I have always - always - felt better after performing them."
03:35 <Schism> Please, if nothing else, give it a try.
03:36 <Thelema5> Maybe you're right.... I'll try to wash in the morning- on saturday, when i have nothing else going on
03:36 <Schism> What have you going on right now?
03:36 <Thelema5> I know it's gross... but I'm utterly alone and have no one to impress
03:37 <Thelema5> It really doesn't matter if I'm a mess
03:38 <DashedRainbows> sounds like we're both losing our minds
03:39 <Thelema5> Could be. But I have ab appointment with a psychologist MD on thr 11th
03:40 <Thelema5> *psychatrist
03:40 <DashedRainbows> good
03:40 <DashedRainbows> and my mind should return in a few days
03:40 <Thelema5> Any word on a transplant?
03:40 <DashedRainbows> I'm still upset about yesterday
03:41 <DashedRainbows> nope
03:41 <Thelema5> Understandably so!
03:41 <DashedRainbows> combined with my general angst
03:41 <DashedRainbows> I don't feel well
03:42 * Thelema5 hugs you!
03:43 * DashedRainbows cries
03:44 <DashedRainbows> thinking your life is goin to be way different then going back to same-old is hard
03:45 * Thelema5 thinking your life is going to be the same-old and then going way different is hard too
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03:51 <RazorSharpFang> Is Ali there?
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03:56 <Thelema5> I wis I had some chocolate
03:56 <Thelema5> *wish
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04:00 <Razzaroo> Hi
04:03 <Thelema5> Hey there, Razzaroo
04:03 <PinkieShy> hey Thelema5 :P
04:04 <PinkieShy> Thought i would jump in back here to say Hii while the credits are showing on the stream for the game :P
04:04 <Razzaroo> anyone got a music reccomendation
04:05 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, hiya!
04:05 <Thelema5> Razzaroo, check out Deerhoof
04:07 <Razzaroo> Huh but were will i find you! XD (if you get the reference congratz)
04:07 <Thelema5> Razzaroo, try this live take https://youtu.be/DkpjZXgetDU
04:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Analysis: The Everfree Vanishings / My Problem With BATS [ http://tinyurl.com/y8bugeq2 ]
04:11 <Razzaroo> Thelema5 I dont get it ;-; but i like it maybe
04:12 <Thelema5> Here, try this live take: https://youtu.be/zQbZjH9Omdc
04:13 <Razzaroo> Thelema5 whats the song about? the first one
04:13 <Thelema5> Their drummer, Greg Saunier, is the best in the industry today
04:14 <Razzaroo> Ahuh ok i got one for you to listen to :3 Thelema5
04:15 <Razzaroo> https://youtu.be/KYkBs1Ah4JY
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04:17 <Thelema5> Cute still visual., but the music seems pretty typical
04:18 <Thelema5> Sorry, it just seems very formulaic to me
04:18 <Razzaroo> I just wanted to know if the girl from your video spoke english ^^;
04:18 <Razzaroo> other than that the instrumentals not bad
04:18 <Thelema5> She does
04:19 <Razzaroo> ah whats the genre
04:19 <Thelema5> She's from Japan but is semi-fluent in english
04:19 <Thelema5> Razzaroo, I don't know. They shift gears with every album
04:19 <Razzaroo> Oh ok so something new each time :3
04:20 <Thelema5> Yes, everything from experimental noise rock to techno pop
04:20 * DashedRainbows sighs
04:20 <DashedRainbows> hi Razzaroo
04:20 <Razzaroo> Hi DashedRainbows why you sigh?
04:21 <DashedRainbows> because I got hit by the mother of all fakeouts
04:21 <Razzaroo> Also Thelema5 those genres sound cool :)
04:21 <DashedRainbows> was supposed to get a kidney transplant yesterday
04:22 <Razzaroo> kick her butt lol im sorry i wish i could be more helpful :( but i dont know if I can DashedRainbows
04:22 <DashedRainbows> eh it's ok
04:23 <Razzaroo> So kick her butt? xD
04:24 <Razzaroo> I think i misunderstood
04:24 <Razzaroo> oops
04:25 <DashedRainbows> Am I bad for anticipating a death?
04:25 <Razzaroo> dont say that :(
04:26 <Razzaroo> you'll get a transplant. probably if you dont mind me asking why
04:26 <Razzaroo> DashedRainbows
04:26 <DashedRainbows> Childhood illness resulting in kidney failure
04:27 <Razzaroo> Oh :
04:27 <Razzaroo> Well just keep talking to people for a while
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04:28 <DashedRainbows> Twelve bloody years I've been living like this I'm tired
04:28 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, people die regardless of what comes after. You're not to blame for their fate. You're just making the best out of a bad situation
04:29 <DashedRainbows> Thelema5: I'm actively hoping that a matching person dies :(
04:29 <Thelema5> For the record, nearly all family members of organ donors are glad to see their loved ones contribute to further life
04:30 <Razzaroo> DashedRainbows what about your familly members do they have a kidney
04:30 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, that's fine and expected
04:31 <DashedRainbows> Yes, but I have reason not to go that way yet
04:31 <Razzaroo> Oh?
04:32 <Thelema5> Screw all that noise. DashedRainbows you're going to get a kidney ethically and soon.
04:33 <Thelema5> Relax.
04:34 <Razzaroo> Sounds like a bad illness but you'll push through and persevere:) believe that you can
04:34 <DashedRainbows> I'm just so tired of everyday
04:34 <Razzaroo> Its hard out there for a lot of people trust me
04:34 <DashedRainbows> Dialysis every day
04:35 <DashedRainbows> And every other day is equally as bad
04:35 <Razzaroo> is it like fatiuge then pain
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04:36 <DashedRainbows> Mainly fatigue and dietary restriction
04:36 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
04:36 <Thelema5> Hey
04:36 * DashedRainbows licks ConfusionRift
04:36 * ConfusionRift waves.
04:36 <Razzaroo> Ok so not fiber miyalgia @DashedRainbows good
04:36 * ConfusionRift then pets DashedRainbows. :P
04:37 <DashedRainbows> I do have neuropathic pain from it
04:38 <DashedRainbows> Take medicine that thankfully helps but side effects...
04:38 <DashedRainbows> Legalize medical marijuana
04:39 <Razzaroo> it is legalized
04:39 <Razzaroo> ?
04:39 <DashedRainbows> Not here
04:39 <Razzaroo> In california and some other state it is
04:39 <RazorSharpFang> Fun fact: There are places other than California.
04:39 <Razzaroo> I just cant think of the name of that other place
04:40 <Razzaroo> that has it legalized
04:40 * DashedRainbows lays down by ConfusionRift
04:40 * ConfusionRift sighs by the whole subject.
04:41 <DashedRainbows> Me too
04:41 <Razzaroo> Grr RazorSharpFang
04:41 <DashedRainbows> So much waiting
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04:42 <DashedRainbows> Gn
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04:43 <ConfusionRift> Upsetting how waiting for these procedures can sometimes go for so long.
04:43 <RazorSharpFang> That is of course, unless you can pay the premium.
04:43 * DashedRainbows silently screams
04:43 <RazorSharpFang> But it's a very hefty premium
04:44 <ConfusionRift> Most of the times, even with premium.
04:44 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows again. "Sorry."
04:44 * DashedRainbows loses it and runs around barking
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04:57 <Thelema5> Honest question: My sister and my "ex" both say I should get out ot the house in the morning. What does that reakky mean, in practicak terms? What do people do on a saturday morning other than sleep?
04:57 <Thelema5> *really *practical
04:58 <DashedRainbows> Have breakfast
04:58 <DashedRainbows> Food!
04:58 <ConfusionRift> I'm either asleep or at work. (shrugs)
04:59 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, outside of the house? I sometimes have a protein shake for breakfast, but that only takes 2 minutes
04:59 <DashedRainbows> Yes
05:00 * DashedRainbows shrugs
05:00 <Thelema5> It's weird going to a restaurant alone though
05:00 * DashedRainbows is boring
05:01 * ConfusionRift is rather boring as well.
05:01 * Thelema5 joins the boring club
05:02 <ConfusionRift> Used to being alone my whole life. Sometimes even prefer it. Not the mess of people yelling at each other, kids screaming, and babies crying.
05:02 * DashedRainbows paws at ConfusionRift. I imagine most people are
05:03 * Thelema5 nods
05:03 * Thelema5 goes to bed
05:04 <Thelema5> Q'night!
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05:04 <ConfusionRift> Have a good one, bud.
05:04 <ConfusionRift> ...late response. (shrugs)
05:04 <DashedRainbows> How's ConfusionRift?
05:07 <ConfusionRift> Boooring... I mean, not doing much. Just watching videos.
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05:09 * DashedRainbows curls up in the corner on some newspaper. Good night
05:10 * ConfusionRift snugs DashedRainbows. "Have a good one." :P
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05:43 <RazorSharpFang> Now I have to choose what to vote for in the upcoming AGM. Hmm.
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08:08 * Ali flops over RazorSharpFang and ConfusionRift
08:08 <RazorSharpFang> Hey Ali. We got a marathon server up and running. (Old port)
08:08 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali. :P
08:09 <Ali> Don't tell me, you're already up to rails :P
08:09 <RazorSharpFang> I've just researched steel processing.
08:09 <ConfusionRift> They increased research cost.
08:09 * Ali nod nods
08:09 <RazorSharpFang> I'm online, but half-afk, doing cleaning.
08:09 * Ali will check things out, bets RazorSharpFang has everything already under control
08:10 <RazorSharpFang> Not that much. I need help coordinating the lines for iron, copper and whatnot. It's slow and painful.
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09:05 <ConfusionRift> Sleep time. Laters!
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10:27 <Finwe> o3o
10:27 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony!
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10:59 <ADragonDreaming> morning
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11:50 <``Josh> hi
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12:58 * Sleeping_Nightmares sleepies on Finwe!
12:58 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Nini,
12:58 <Sleeping_Nightmares> !
12:58 <Sleeping_Nightmares> o6o
12:58 * Schism yawnskrees at Surry, and curls up too. "Rest well!"
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15:07 <filly`Coco> Hi
15:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Awesome Orchestral Dubstep Music: Jyc Row & UndreamedPanic - Equalizer (feat. Agatan, Metajoker & MC-Arch) [ http://tinyurl.com/yb8rwhsg ]
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15:11 <Finwe> Mr Jon_the_Bronynerd,
15:11 * Finwe doffs his hat.
15:11 * Jon_the_Bronynerd doofs Finwe
15:11 <Jon_the_Bronynerd> Mr Finwe
15:11 <Jon_the_Bronynerd> *doffs
15:19 <Lumindia> someone give me a link to a stream of the new ep plz
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15:29 <Lumindia> o.o
15:29 * Lumindia boops
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16:06 * Cepheid awakens.
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16:21 <Cepheid> So, I noticed something interesting about my TV just now.
16:22 <Cepheid> ... Actually, wait, nevermind. What I noticed was just invalidated by something. XD
16:30 <Fn> That moment when your hypothesis defeats itself with a bit of inspection
16:35 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:35 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, it appears whatever illness I have is contagious now. My dad has it.
16:48 <Cepheid> https://www.foxtrot.com/2016/06/12/jerky-boys/
16:50 <Schism> Bahaha. https://www.foxtrot.com/2016/08/28/pokemon-woe/ Also, now I want beef jerky, so thanks for that.
16:52 <Cepheid> Heh
16:55 <Cepheid> Also, my sister's ex-husband dropped by to drop off a lot of stuff from their apartment.
16:55 <Cepheid> He said he was bringing 12 boxes.
16:55 <Cepheid> I counted at least 30 down there.
16:58 <Cepheid> And yeah, my dad's sick with what I have. No ear infections, that seems to be specific to just me. But he is coughing up a storm and his voice is demonstrating signs of roughness and such in his throat.
17:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Reptiles / Other T / Wheel / Thoughtful / Corman Month / Black Feather 1:11 / Pone Wars 7:1 [ http://tinyurl.com/yaxwrj2h ]
17:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: My Little Pony Season 8 Episode 23 - Sounds of Silence- Stream / Discussion [ http://tinyurl.com/yd6wzqeu ]
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17:38 <Cepheid> https://www.foxtrot.com/2016/10/16/spice-spice-baby/ Schism.
17:39 <Schism> Heh, yeah. XD
17:49 * Cepheid wonders if he should buy a kuerig with some refillable kuerig cups. It'd allow him to use non-instant coffee, and also keep the water usage and wastage down.
17:49 <Schism> Might be helpful, especially as you don't really drink more than a cup of coffee at a time.
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17:50 <Cepheid> There's that, yes. That's the primary thing I was thinking of.
17:50 <Schism> Another, less expensive option is getting yourself a French press.
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17:51 * Schism provides Ali with a cup of coffee from a French press.
17:51 * Ali doesn't drink coffee
17:51 * Ali snugs Schism regardless
17:53 <Cepheid> I have a french press, I really should use it more. Also maybe mark where I should fill it to for a single cup.
17:56 <Cepheid> So, Sleep Bombing on Hunt-a-thons is a good idea. Just killed two Kut-kus in less than 6 minutes.
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18:01 <Cepheid> Wish Felyne Pyro would show up more frequently as a food skill.
18:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: GOOD NEWS ABOUT NEWS [ http://tinyurl.com/ybv9szrf ]
18:08 <Finwe> o3o
18:08 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
18:09 * Ali squeaks
18:09 * SunsetShimmer giggles
18:11 * Ali magic grabs SunsetShimmer and pulls her over to nom her tail for that.
18:16 * SunsetShimmer squeakies and flails xD
18:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> See sometimes I'm sitting there wondering if GlimGlam is best pony yet and then this happens: https://www.deviantart.com/alcor90/art/Sad-Luna-765890516
18:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> <3
18:18 <Schism> Or things like this. https://www.deviantart.com/alcor90/art/A-present-721680126
18:19 <Starlight_Glimmer> Don't be silly. YellowShy can't compete
18:19 <Starlight_Glimmer> That horse isn't magic.
18:20 <SunsetShimmer> She's rather silly
18:21 <Ali> She's Flutter SHY not Twilight Sparkle
18:23 <Cepheid> "The Bherna Gal started a "Please pick up your litter" campaign. Next day though, the Felynes started a "Please don't move our kittens!" campaign." - Paraphrased from the Soaratorium Gal.
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18:31 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
18:32 <Cepheid> Mornin
18:33 <Schism> "Some people will tell you to 'git gud', but that's a terrible suggestion! Who even listens to those people anyway?"
18:34 <Cepheid> You'd be surprised.
18:35 <Thelema5> Probably the same sort of people who say things like "git gud"
18:36 <Cepheid> For me, there's a group of people who act like they're better than everyone else at programming, including myself. It's likely true, too, because it's a constant problem in the field of CS. Wouldn't be surprised if that's part of what drives others away. Going off track though, anyways..
18:36 <SunsetShimmer> Its a pretty derp phrase among gamers too...commonly used by Dark Souls and hardcore FPS players
18:36 <Cepheid> When such people start making comments like that, it often peeves me off to the point of where I will actively try to prove them wrong, and, eventually do.
18:37 <Cepheid> The act of having a big ego and expressing it in certain tones induces a sort of "need to prove them wrong" mentality in me.
18:37 <Cepheid> Indirectly, this causes me to "git gud"
18:37 <SunsetShimmer> Thats probably the point, I suppose
18:38 <Cepheid> Nah. If I know one thing really well, it's that CS students are just egotistical.
18:38 <Cepheid> It's some problem inherent in the type of personality that mixes really well with computer science and programming in general.
18:38 <SunsetShimmer> Oh I just meant the phrase generally
18:38 <Cepheid> Ah.
18:39 <SunsetShimmer> Hear it often enough and its bound to inspire enough internal aggrevation to DO just that out of spite.
18:40 <Cepheid> Honestly, the truth of why I do things by myself so much in school isn't that I hate my classmates for their personality or anything. It's just I'm at a point where I have to constantly prove myself for some reason.
18:41 <Cepheid> Like, I don't like asking for help not because it's a weakness or anything, as I admit I'm weak at math and I suck at it horribly, but... I just need to prove something.
18:41 <Cepheid> To who, and what, I don't know.
18:41 <SunsetShimmer> I can relate to that with some things, we all probably can
18:41 <Cepheid> It's not my parents, that much I know.
18:41 <Cepheid> They're always saying that I never need to prove anything to them, and that they're amazed or surprised I can do what I can so easily.
18:42 <Cepheid> My dad especially. While he didn't go into the same field as me, he did take a computer-related field, and that involved some programming. He absolutely hated programming.
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18:47 <Cepheid> I will also admit that there is a distinct difference between me and the students I'm TAing for. I'd like to think it's the 22 years of previous experience programming, but I don't know of any other people who are in a similar boat to me to compare against to confirm
18:48 <Cepheid> When a new programming language is put in front of me, I pick it up so incredibly fast it's not even funny. For preparation of helping students yesterday, I did the tutorials for the course in question. Back when I first did that course, I had a bit of trouble solving the tutorials that it took me a day or two to get 'em.
18:49 <Cepheid> This time around, and despite having not touched Javascript in almost a full year? Less than 30 minutes for each.
18:50 <Cepheid> I live, breathe, and practically live off of coding. Meanwhile, the students around me (usually) have an extremely difficult time grasping basic concepts of programming despite having gone through an entire school year utilizing said concepts over and over.
18:51 <Cepheid> It's a mystery how that even happens, to me.
18:51 <Cepheid> You've been using if statements, while loops, for loops, for-each loops, do-while loops for a full year. How do you still not understand how they work? It's probably no fault of theirs, I dunno, but it confuses me.
18:53 <Schism> Cepheid: Do you do do-while or while?
18:53 <Cepheid> Depends on the context.
18:53 <Cepheid> There are useful traits to either.
18:53 <Schism> ( http://www.galactanet.com/comic/view.php?strip=307 )
18:54 <Cepheid> Heh.
18:54 <Cepheid> In any case, do-while causes at least one iteration of the body of the loop to occur, guaranteed. A while loop on the other hand requires a condition be met for the body to be executed.
18:54 * Schism nodnods.
18:55 * Ali 's head explodes
18:55 <Cepheid> Ali: One or many times versus zero or many times.
18:56 <Ali> Bless you?
18:56 <Cepheid> I'm just trying to express the concept in simpler terms.
18:56 <Ali> Still didn't help
18:56 <Cepheid> The former being "Oh, I have to do this thing once. But I might have to do it more than once afterwards."
18:56 <Cepheid> The latter being "I either don't have to do this thing, or do this thing repeatedly."
18:57 <Cepheid> A concrete example of do-while is "I have to clean this room, and afterwards, I might have to clean the other rooms of the house. If I do, I'll go clean them. If not, I'll stop."
18:58 <Cepheid> A concrete example of a while loop would be... hmm..
18:58 * Ali understands little, and its making her more tired than she already is.
18:58 <Cepheid> "If I agree to this contract, I'll have to sign this form, this form, this form, this form and this form. Otherwise, I don't have to sign any of them."
18:58 <Ali> And I don't want to nap, I just woke up!
18:59 <Cepheid> Sorry, my brain's just in a... coffee-induced spaz mode.
18:59 * Ali is used to babblemode, does it a ton herself
19:01 <Cepheid> In any case, the point of all my rambling is that I'm not sure why I adapt to new programming languages and the like so easily and readily, when students who've been studying one language for a full year still have trouble grasping even basic concepts. Common observation would suggest the difference in experience of programming, but I self-taught myself programming and I recall not having anywhere near as much trouble.
19:01 <Cepheid> Like, when I first started, I was playing with a language that had a lesser-developed language than common compiled languages of the time. Schism's likely familiar with it, the bot language of Megazeux.
19:02 <Schism> Some passing familiarity with MZX, yes.
19:03 <Cepheid> I now wonder if that game's language is turing complete at this point in time.
19:03 <Cepheid> Apparently Magic: The Gathering is turing complete.
19:04 <Cepheid> Which means you could, in theory, write a program in Magic: The Gathering cards.
19:05 <Finwe> o3o
19:05 * Finwe noms on Cepheid's source code.
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19:07 <Cepheid> Point is, I started with MZX. Went on for a few months. Then I found BASIC. Worked with that for a day, then found C++.
19:07 <Cepheid> From there, things spiraled out of control.
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19:08 <Cepheid> I was on-and-off with C and C++ over the next ten years, then attended college, got formal education in it all, then immediately became horribly sick and non-functional for five years, and now I'm back in post-secondary.
19:08 <Finwe> Haskell ftv.
19:09 <Cepheid> No thanks.
19:09 <Cepheid> I do not like functional languages. I can use them, but they're strangely hard for me to wrap my head around.
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19:11 <Cepheid> I'll leave the functional languages to the mathematicians, like you, Finwe.
19:14 <Koopz> https://www.deviantart.com/imalou/art/Autumn-Leaves-766066883
19:14 <Koopz> this pleases my eyes
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19:23 <Koopz> blech
19:24 <Thelema5> Koopz, that's adorable
19:25 <Koopz> i sometimes buy random liqor bottles if i go to parties, the gang however got cautious and stopped trying what they've never tried before... so i got home with that bottle again and just tried it... can't quite put my finger on the taste but... i've bought worse :D
19:26 <Koopz> bottle doesn't state what's in it, it's just labeled "Hammer" with a skull donning a crown
19:26 <Cepheid> Betting moonshine.
19:27 <Koopz> don't worry... just 20%
19:27 <Koopz> https://www.hammer-schnaps.com/#startseite
19:28 <Schism> Some kinda fortified wine?
19:29 <Koopz> Schnaps
19:29 <Koopz> Liquor
19:29 <Koopz> the thing you drink shotwise
19:30 <Koopz> not in big red cups ;D
19:30 <Koopz> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/515uhSkeR3L._SX342_.jpg 10T30 was probably the worst stuff we had on a party in terms of popularity
19:31 <Koopz> has cinnamon in it
19:33 <Koopz> our gang's favourite liquors are Berliner Luft [Air of Berlin] (peppermint, basically drinkable toothpaste) and Bärenjäger [Bear Hunter] (Vodka and honey)
19:34 <Koopz> there are various versions of Berliner Luft, one of them is mixed with chocolate, resulting in it tasting like After Eight
19:34 <Koopz> i love After Eight
19:34 <Thelema5> Koopz, that last image looks like motor oil
19:34 <Koopz> the package says "Head Transmission Oil"
19:35 <Koopz> ;D
19:35 * Thelema5 snerks
19:35 <Koopz> also a warning that this stuff doesn't belong into motors
19:35 <Thelema5> Ah ha ha
19:35 <Thelema5> Yeah, that would be bad
19:37 <Cepheid> Koopz: After Eight, as in, those thin chocolate mints things?
19:37 <Koopz> yes
19:37 <Koopz> exactly those <3
19:37 <Cepheid> And you say that particular liquor tastes like them?
19:37 <Koopz> yas
19:38 <Cepheid> I'll have to try it out if I ever decide to drink again.
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19:43 <Cepheid> The heck? Two of my equipment sets are gone. o3o
19:44 <Cepheid> Prolly 'cause I sold the talismans related to them, perhaps.
19:48 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Reptiles / Other T / Wheel / Thoughtful / Corman Month / Black Feather 1:11 / Pone Wars 7:1 [ http://tinyurl.com/yaxwrj2h ]
19:52 <Cepheid> Geezus! I thought powderstones would be like, 500 points for the accounting quest in the volcano.
19:52 <Cepheid> I need 1000 such points.
19:52 <Cepheid> Powderstones are 3000(!!) points.
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20:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Mega Compilation Album Ponies At Dawn Enigma Out Now! [ http://tinyurl.com/ya245puv ]
20:14 <Finwe> !twilight time
20:14 <DerpyBot> It's not Twilight time right now, silly!
20:14 <Finwe> !starlight time
20:14 <Finwe> Starlight time! Starlight time!
20:15 * Cepheid puts three Nibelsnarfs under the ground permanently.
20:15 * Finwe bounces around in front of Starlight_Glimmer.
20:25 * Cepheid asplodes a Garuga.
20:25 <Cepheid> Literally. All the damage I did to it was purely explosive damage from bombs, and it just up and died.
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20:34 * Thelema5 tries to figure out what to have for dinner
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20:36 <Thelema5> I'm thinking buffalo style chickn' wings with carrot sticks and tots
20:40 * Schism passes Thelema5 some ranch dressing in which to dip those.
20:41 <Thelema5> Thanksie
20:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> Wait I thought you don't eat meat?
20:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> You cheat :3
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20:43 <Thelema5> I don't eat meat, I have a meat alternative wing
20:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> Ah I see
20:43 <Thelema5> There are so many products on the market now it's easy
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20:44 * Starlight_Glimmer had ham hock with sauerkraut today
20:44 <Cepheid> Normally I'd assume that it was someone in the relationship enforcing vegetarianism/veganism. Since my sister's that way. When she was with her ex-husband, she'd constantly try to be vegan/vegetarian, but it'd never last.
20:45 <Thelema5> Mmmm, sauerkraut
20:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> Also mashed potatoes
20:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> I somehow forgot that
20:47 * Thelema5 drools
20:47 <Thelema5> Mashed potatoes are like, the best thing in the world
20:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> The combination with sauerkraut <3
20:49 <Thelema5> Schism, Kitchner isn't too far from Buffalo, NY, right? Do you guys get good wings up there?
20:50 <Schism> Not especially, no.
20:50 <Schism> I mean, okay, we get your standard pizza'n'wings shoppes, and some good restaurants, but there's not a whole lot going on in that regard.
20:50 <Schism> For wings, I mean. Everything else, yea.
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20:54 * Cepheid is getting antsy. Wants to code. Knows what he wants to work on, but can't start writing code for it yet. Need to design things.
20:56 * Starlight_Glimmer rubs Finwe with honey and spices. "Yes, wings, yummy!"
20:58 <Thelema5> Schism, that's interesting. Buffalo is entrenched with that particualr food identity, but just two hours away if fades off. Heh
20:58 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 3 Page iTunes Preview For MLP comic #71 - Student 6 Halloween [ http://tinyurl.com/y9kz7mzd ]
20:59 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/eEduxGCibgE
20:59 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
20:59 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Anchor Bar in Buffalo, NY
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21:02 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm with my grandma at the moment and she's watching TV where a German translation of my My Heart Will Go On is playing. I'm in tears - but only because they ruined a beautiful song.
21:02 * Thelema5 giggles
21:03 <Thelema5> Starlight_Glimmer, maybe this will help https://youtu.be/MULi81XyOpI
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21:06 <Thelema5> OOh, there's two chipmunks arguing outside my window right now. CHIRP CHIRP!
21:06 <Thelema5> Fight, fight!
21:07 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:08 <Thelema5> I hope they manage to settle their differences
21:14 <Thelema5> Hmm... so I just learned that the semi-abandoned resort hotel I worked for over 6 years and still continue to freelance work for is going to be closing permanently tomorrow at midnight
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21:15 <Thelema5> That's sad, it's an end of an era. All the old borscht belt commedians played there, back in the day
21:16 <Thelema5> Lots of musicians, too
21:17 <Thelema5> I'll have a lot of memories
21:19 <ADragonDreaming> woof
21:20 <Thelema5> Woody Allen, Rodney Dangerfield, Jerry Seinfeld, Henny Youngman, Sid Caesar, Billy Crystal, Buddy Hackett, Gabe Kaplan, Andy Kaufman, and Joan Rivers all performed there
21:21 <Thelema5> I've stod on that stage, decaying as it is.
21:21 <Thelema5> *stood
21:23 <Thelema5> Ronald Reagan gave a speech on that stage
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21:24 <Thelema5> Damn shame
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21:48 * Cepheid just wrote about three pages worth of definitions of various terms in a game project idea he came up with. >.>
21:49 <ADragonDreaming> well done
21:50 <Cepheid> Still need to decide two things, but I know for a fact that I'm gonna go with a sprite-based art style instead. All this vector-graphics stuff is needlessly complicated for little effort.
21:50 <Cepheid> Er, effect*
21:51 <Cepheid> Arguably I can still do the style, just in a roundabout manner.
21:52 * Ali rolls around waiting for Razor, cause unicorn surely can't solo progress in a marathon world by herself with aggressive bugs!
21:53 <Cepheid> He didn't unlock turrets?
21:53 <Ali> Rushed straight for Oil
21:54 <Ali> But there's so many dang trees around
21:54 <Cepheid> That man..
21:55 <Cepheid> I'd have gone for turrets and walls knowing that bugs are aggressive.
21:55 <Cepheid> Oil's gonna take bloody forever to reach 'cause of the 10x science multiplier.
21:55 <Ali> 1000 bottles
21:56 <Ali> And only 2 labs are set up and are being manual fed by chests.
21:56 <Ali> So they kinda stop when the mats run out.
21:57 <Cepheid> I'll get on in a bit and set up some automated red packs. Green will require a bit more effort.
21:58 <Cepheid> Assuming I can override my compulsion to work on something right now.
21:59 * Ali brushies the Cepheid
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22:02 * Cepheid goes and gets ear drops.
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22:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2754 [ http://tinyurl.com/ya95j2s2 ]
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22:14 <Schism> Boy, it sure is interesting how I owe the US government income tax from 2017.
22:16 <Cepheid> Wait what?
22:16 <PinkieShy> So i think lightning struck near my porch.. As the flash of light looked like it touched down very close to me when i opened the door..
22:16 <Schism> I know, I was terribly surprised too, Cepheid.
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22:17 <Schism> But, well, I got this call from a perfectly legitimate organization affiliated with the IRS.
22:18 <Cepheid> Ah. Scam call.
22:21 <Cepheid> Hum, ear drops appear to be working.
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22:34 * Cepheid sits atop ADragonDreaming and hunts.
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22:36 <Schism> <Discord> You're telling me the immutable future? MY immutable future?! <Twilight> Want to hear about what you'll do tomorrow? <Discord> Nope. *telepop*
22:48 <Cepheid> Hate hate hate HATE blagongas. Too much speed.
22:49 <Cepheid> And their leaping allows them to cross distances nearly two or three times that of most wyverns.
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23:04 <Cepheid> Tomorrow, I think I am gonna go out for a couple of hours. I'm going stir-crazy.
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23:08 * Ali stirs Cepheid
23:08 * Cepheid goes crazy.
23:21 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, the monkeys are annoying.
23:25 <Cepheid> I have regained hearing in my left ear.
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23:28 <Cepheid> Spoke too soon.
23:30 * Ali swaps ears with Cepheid, some days she wishes she couldn't hear so well.
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23:52 <Cepheid> Got a choice. I can either use images that have 24-bit RGB and 8-bit alpha stored in the same file, or I can use separate 24-bit RGB images and 8-bit alpha images. Which would you prefer? For reference, Starbound uses the latter setup.
23:53 <Cepheid> Or rather, just separate colour and alpha images, regardless of bit depth.
23:53 <Cepheid> Why the separation? Mostly increased compatibility. Some image editors amazingly do not support RGBA images even in this day and age.
23:54 <Schism> Eh, storing them in the same file makes for a cleaner system overall...
23:55 <Cepheid> Mmm, I'd prefer in the same file too, yes.
23:56 <Cepheid> There are complications involved with separate files.
23:56 <ADragonDreaming> What would be the reason to separate?
23:56 <Cepheid> That said, separate files allow for people who insist on using say, MS Paint, to make new images.
23:56 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming: Compatibility with image editors.
23:57 <ADragonDreaming> So the latter is more accesible for modders.
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23:57 <Cepheid> Yes.
23:57 <ADragonDreaming> Is that something particularly important to this game?
23:59 <Cepheid> Honestly? No. Modding is a complicated thing to implement even in the most well-designed games.
23:59 <Cepheid> I guess that answers the decision, then.
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