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00:00 <Twilight_Sparkle> Are we singing the doom song, then?
00:04 * Schism trumpets the DOOM song.
00:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Season 8 Possibly Hitting Netflix November 12th in Canada [ http://tinyurl.com/ya4fmtgr ]
00:07 <Cepheid> Twilight_Sparkle: Alas, no.
00:08 * Cepheid checks out EXAPUNKS for a moment, since Schism kept mentioning it in the past.
00:11 <PinkieShy> I'm going to have a good dinner tomorrow :3
00:12 <PinkieShy> Broccoli and cheese with grilled chicken :D
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00:16 <Cepheid> This is more my style, this game.
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00:18 <PinkieShy> Hii DashedRainbows
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00:22 <Twilight_Sparkle> I have won a Civ VI game.
00:24 <Schism> Diplomacy?
00:24 <Twilight_Sparkle> That's not a victory possibility.
00:24 <Schism> Or did you go the Gandhi route and nuke everyone?
00:24 <Twilight_Sparkle> unless possibly in the expansion?
00:24 <Schism> Alliance isn't a victory possibility?
00:25 <Schism> What mad Civ game doesn't have diplomacy/alliance as a possibility?
00:25 <Twilight_Sparkle> victories in Civ VI, aside from score: Culture, Science, Domination, and Religious
00:25 <Schism> Hrm. Gotcha.
00:25 <Twilight_Sparkle> Science involves colonizing Mars.
00:26 <Twilight_Sparkle> so a science victory is also an industrial victory, because building modules and such.
00:26 <Schism> Right.
00:26 <Twilight_Sparkle> Religious victory means getting it so that the religion your civilization founded is the predominant religion in all civilizations.
00:26 <Twilight_Sparkle> Domination means conquering everyone's capitals
00:27 <Twilight_Sparkle> And culture involves achieving a critical mass of tourism, such that your culture is dominant over everybody else's. I won with a Culture victory.
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00:40 * Cepheid places a curse upon Schism.
00:41 * Schism blinks.
00:41 * Schism also works on making sure that all his crafters have iLvl 290+ gear.
00:50 * Filly_Nightmares eats Schism's curse
00:50 * Filly_Nightmares purrs
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00:52 <PinkieShy> Just ate a raw broccoli floret.. It was a small piece..
00:52 <PinkieShy> It was actually good :3
00:53 <PinkieShy> Left a odd taste in my mouth but i can get over that.
00:53 <Pony|99285> hello pinkieshy
00:53 <PinkieShy> Hiya
00:53 <Pony|99285> wanna chat
00:53 <Pony|99285> wanna chat pinkieshy
00:54 <Pony|99285> pinkieshy are you thaew
00:56 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, even I am not a fan of raw broccoli XD
00:56 <Thelema5> Pony|99285, this is a CHAT room. Feel free to speak!
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00:57 <Schism> Raw broccoli... eh, it's sometimes good! I like it steamed. And coated in cheeeeeese.
00:57 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 It raw is pretty good :3
00:58 <PinkieShy> Just the taste of it.. XD gotta get used to
00:58 <PinkieShy> Having the Broccoli with nacho cheese and grilled chicken for dinner tomorrow :3
00:58 <PinkieShy> I don't know how to steam the fresh broccoli so I'm boiling it
00:58 <PinkieShy> Unless steaming it is very very easy.
00:59 <Thelema5> It's VERY easy
00:59 <Thelema5> You just need a steamer tray.
00:59 <Schism> It is incredibly simple, especially if you get a steamer basket. :3
01:00 <Thelema5> Put it in a pot with an inch of water, heat to boiling, add your veg and wait a minute, if that
01:00 <PinkieShy> I don't have a steamer tray as far as i know :(
01:01 <PinkieShy> Is boiling it just as good?
01:01 <Thelema5> I'm afraid not. It gets over-cooked VERY quickly
01:02 <PinkieShy> a youtube vid i saw says stir it and keep checking on it when its soft.. Its done..
01:02 <PinkieShy> and add them to the water when it comes to a boil.
01:02 <Thelema5> I'd disagree... soft is too cooked. i prefer al-dente. Pull them when they turn bright green
01:03 <PinkieShy> I guess I'll have to buy the steamer stuff next time :P
01:03 <PinkieShy> Depends if i end up liking it boiled or not XD
01:04 <PinkieShy> Trial and error is the key i guess.
01:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comic Dub: Distracted / Mirror Trap / First Time... / Just a Coincidence [ http://tinyurl.com/ycftgd7v ]
01:05 * Cepheid writes code for XA and sends it off into Schism. It was designed to compel Schism to make a normal sandwich.
01:05 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, here's a good steaming primer https://youtu.be/dQmynwCHLIE
01:05 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 I just found this by google https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-Beach-5-5-Quart-Digital-Steamer-Model-37530/43202556
01:05 <PinkieShy> Might get that..
01:08 <Thelema5> Seems excessive. A steamer basket will only cost like $10, will work with your existing cookware, and is simple and easy to clean
01:10 <PinkieShy> Big lots has it $5 o.o
01:10 <PinkieShy> https://www.biglots.com/product/stainless-steel-vegetable-steamer-basket/p810191622
01:10 <PinkieShy> I'll go there i guess.. Better deal
01:11 <Thelema5> There ya go
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01:21 <Schism> Cepheid: Heh, that reminds me, I need to do more of Opus Magnum. The levels don't need you to be a genius, but ... I kinda want to optimize my earlier solutions...
01:22 * Schism also makes some zelkova lumber. And should probably craft some tama-hagane ingots. ...
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02:06 <PinkieShy> So..
02:07 <PinkieShy> Thelem5 I found a way to steam it without a steamer..
02:07 <PinkieShy> Youtube says its possible to do with a glass microwave safe bowl
02:07 <Thelema5> Oh?
02:07 <PinkieShy> and a plate to cover it..
02:07 <PinkieShy> they say add a TBSP of water to it and heat it up for a few minutes.
02:09 <PinkieShy> Should i steam it that way..
02:19 * DashedRainbows horses around
02:21 <Schism> It... hrmm.
02:21 <Schism> I am not sure you should...
02:22 <DashedRainbows> I second that
02:28 * DashedRainbows sniffs Thelema5
02:29 <PinkieShy> Schism are you talking to me?
02:30 <Schism> Yah.
02:30 <Schism> While it's possible to do so, it might result in the bowl shattering. In fact, I'd not be surprised.
02:30 <PinkieShy> I'll just boil it then.. and steam it next time :P
02:32 <Schism> That's just my take on it, but I'd rather you didn't hurt yourself blowing up your microwave.
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02:35 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story Updates - October 24th [ http://tinyurl.com/y8uzojrt ]
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03:29 <PinkieShy> Schism to be honest the microwave is far from safe to use lol
03:30 <PinkieShy> under the plate that rotates its.. Rusted so bad.
03:30 <PinkieShy> Gotta get a new one..
03:37 <DashedRainbows> Seems perfectly fine :p
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03:58 <DashedRainbows> Imma sleepy pone
03:58 <DashedRainbows> Good night
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07:02 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:14 <PinkieShy> Just got a sia fan to watch the Sia MLP Movie music video.
07:18 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe,
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08:30 <ConfusionRift2> Well! Finally. Package that I was supposed to receive on the 9th, and then got "delivered" on the 15th, finally shows up.
08:31 * Unixkitty sits on ConfusionRift2
08:31 * Unixkitty noms on the "2"
08:31 *** ConfusionRift2 is now known as ConfusionRift
08:32 <ConfusionRift> Barely noticed I disconnected earlier.
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08:37 * ConfusionRift pets Unixkitty. :P
08:44 <ConfusionRift> Diaaablooo! I mean... gonna play some Diablo 3.
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08:59 <PinkieShy> For your daily dose of cuteness https://twitter.com/Coralie_Orgs/status/1049379415224934400
09:00 <ConfusionRift> "Pretty sure I bought a coat, not a cat in a coat." :P
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10:31 <Finwe> o3o
10:31 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony.
10:32 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Mlles Unixkitty and DashedRainbows.
10:32 <Finwe> o7
10:39 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salute)
10:40 <Unixkitty> o/
10:41 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe, Lt. Cdr. ConfusionRift o7
10:48 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Finwe and uses ConfusionRift as a blanket
10:48 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini!
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10:48 * Sleeping_Nightmares purrs
11:03 <ConfusionRift> Have a good one!
11:03 <Finwe> Capt of the Guard Koopz.
11:03 <Finwe> o7
11:05 <Finwe> It was a poor idea to move away from the apartment with free 1 Gbit/s Internet connection. :/
11:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1376 [ http://tinyurl.com/ya93t62x ]
11:05 <Finwe> With mere 100 Mbit/s it takes an eternity to download the 19 GB patch to War Thunder.
11:05 <Unixkitty> Free gigabit internet? What is this madness
11:07 <Finwe> Unixkitty: The apartments in the university campus are equipped with such commodity.
11:08 <Finwe> Upgradable to 10 Gbit/s if you provide your own adapter.
11:22 <ConfusionRift> Welcome to common speeds. :P
11:22 <Cepheid> Welcome to the plebian world, Finwe.
11:23 <Unixkitty> "Mere 100 Mbit/s"
11:23 <Unixkitty> pls
11:31 * ConfusionRift boops Unixkitty. :P
11:32 * Unixkitty flops on ConfusionRift
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11:34 <Phantamanta> Oboi. I had a weird morning today.
11:38 * Cepheid inserts a few programmed EXAs into ConfusionRift.
11:43 <Cepheid> Hmm. This one's tricky..
11:51 * ConfusionRift looks at the data and instructions. "...the heck is this?"
11:52 <ConfusionRift> 3 years of retail work has boiled my processor into moosh.
11:52 <Cepheid> It's from EXAPUNKS, a game where you code tiny little robots to do things within their limited constraints.
11:53 <ConfusionRift> Aaah, nice.
11:53 <Cepheid> Made by the same madman that made TIS-100, SpaceChem and the like.
11:53 * ConfusionRift has a tiny bot walk... then explodes.
11:54 <Cepheid> Each bot is limited to two registers, a file handle, and a communication port. You can position them around a network, communicate globally or locally within the same node, and you have to use them to perform complicated tasks.
11:54 <Cepheid> Multiprocessing to the extreme.
11:59 <ConfusionRift> Have played SpaceChem and... yeeeaaaaahhhhh.
12:01 <Cepheid> It seems I have an affinity for writing code that moves things.
12:02 <Cepheid> EXAPUNKS is one of the first Zachtronics games I feel like "completing" because it feels like I'm programming something to move.
12:02 <Cepheid> Similar to my robotics class.
12:03 <ConfusionRift> [(object) move (forward) (2 ft.)] It works. Now to do... everything else around that.
12:04 <ConfusionRift> Man, just got reminded of Alice.
12:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Body Paint / Halloween / Shard 60 / Hyde 12 / Outfield 7 / Pone Wars 7:9 / Entropy 6 [ http://tinyurl.com/yatovxef ]
12:05 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:05 <Cepheid> The robotics I'm dealing with is a bit trickier than that.
12:05 <ConfusionRift> Oh I know.
12:05 <Koopz> Finwe aircraft or groundforces? which nation?
12:06 <Cepheid> We're using a modified version of Java, running on a Linux-based OS. We're using LEGO motors and sensors, and compatible sensors.
12:06 <Cepheid> Tachometers are only so accurate.
12:07 <Cepheid> Hum, this requires 3 exas.
12:07 <ConfusionRift> That... that some nasty cocktail. I mean, it is the foundation to the whole thing. It's just they do not let it easy, huh. :P
12:07 <Cepheid> Tried with 2, can't do it.
12:07 <Cepheid> I won't lie, there are some problems with the customized version of Java.
12:08 <Cepheid> Namely, you only ever get floating point data from sensors.
12:08 <Cepheid> Even switches, which are just on-off.
12:08 <Cepheid> The touch sensors report 0.0 to 1.0, but are most commonly used for "on-off" switches.
12:09 <Cepheid> So to account for that and make things easier, I wrote a wrapper class around the touch sensor class.
12:09 <Cepheid> It returns a boolean value of true or false depending on whether the sensor is activated or not.
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12:10 <ADragonHoarding> last day before a four-day weekend for me, huzzah!
12:10 <Cepheid> Nice.
12:10 <ConfusionRift> HuzzAAAAHH!
12:11 * Cepheid has to do some finagling to solve this problem.
12:11 <ADragonHoarding> took vacation days because birthday weekend
12:12 <Cepheid> Oh?
12:13 <ADragonHoarding> Yep.
12:13 <Cepheid> Your birthday, or a relatives?
12:13 <ADragonHoarding> Mine.
12:13 <ADragonHoarding> On Sunday.
12:14 <Cepheid> I'll try to remember that, and I apologize ahead of time if I forget. I would have to be reminded multiple times, or remind myself multiple times before it sticks into long-term memory.
12:14 <Cepheid> As we all know how terrible my short-term memory is these days.
12:14 <ADragonHoarding> Yeah, but no worries anyway
12:14 <ADragonHoarding> I'm at the stage of life where my birthday is no longer super-important
12:14 <Cepheid> Still.
12:15 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, for "bool in float {0.0,1.0}" I use (val > 0.5) to determine true/false.
12:16 <RazorSharpFang> Very odd to have bools in floats like that.
12:16 <Cepheid> The problem isn't just checking the return value of the access function.
12:17 <Cepheid> See, to obtain data, you have to do the following three statements(The first one can be moved elsewhere and omitted in future calls.): float[] samples = new float[TouchSensor.sampleSize()]; TouchSensor.fetchSamples(samples, 0); if (samples[0] > 0.5) { ... }
12:17 <Cepheid> Very wordy thing for whenever you just want to know if the sensor is being touched at all.
12:18 <Cepheid> Also, you can just check for > 0.0, since the spring and button are such that the button does not touch the internal sensor when it's not pressed down.
12:19 <RazorSharpFang> How peculiar.
12:19 <Cepheid> But yeah, 0.5 is probably a better value to check for. Or anything above zero.
12:19 <Cepheid> But yeah, I didn't write the library the Java implementation uses.
12:19 <Cepheid> You want better control than that, go poke ev3dev, which is a pure Linux OS install based on Debian.
12:19 <Cepheid> Provides it's own kernel driver to access the sensor and motor ports.
12:20 <ADragonHoarding> friggin' 250 mb mailbox size
12:21 <ConfusionRift> ...really? Odd. Most give more.
12:21 <ADragonHoarding> Corporate outlook.
12:21 <ConfusionRift> Ooooooh, right.
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12:25 <Cepheid> I gather you hit that limit, and there were some bouncebacks.
12:26 <ADragonHoarding> nah, just got the warning e-mail about approaching the limit
12:26 <ConfusionRift> Funny, how they send you an e-mail about reaching the limit, yet said mail also takes space. :P
12:26 <ADragonHoarding> Which means spending 30 minutes to an hour deleting e-mails, so that I don't get cut off from the information flow
12:27 <ADragonHoarding> ConfusionRift: yep! But, at least it's not like that one corporate e-mail system in Deus Ex.
12:30 <ConfusionRift> [Warning - Running out of mail space!] Okay, let me just delete that and then- (sees the same email pop again) Okay, I get it, it's the reason why I'm ridding you. (deletes it, then sees it pop again) Urgh! Fine. Let me delete the others then. (deletes another email, and a warning email takes its place) What the-?! Really?
12:33 <Unixkitty> ADragonHoarding: We have 15GB, users easily let it fill up and then act entirely aghast.
12:34 <ADragonHoarding> 15 GB is stupid large for e-mails.
12:34 <ADragonHoarding> so, yeah, I don't have much sympathy for those users.
12:34 <ConfusionRift> At the community college, I had the same issue. About 250MB-450MB.
12:35 <ConfusionRift> And we had that issue I mentioned earlier.
12:35 <ConfusionRift> Yay, using the end user as a beta tester of a system that's already implemented!
12:36 <Unixkitty> Well, it's not "stupid" large, people do use a few years of emails for reference in keeping business relations and such
12:36 <ADragonHoarding> Ehhh...
12:36 <Unixkitty> The problem is mostly with never cleaning any, subscribing work address to silly services, spam, etc.
12:37 <Unixkitty> Or sending/receiving and keeping media attachments forever.
12:37 <ADragonHoarding> For anything I need to reference regularly, I have a note of it that's not in e-mail.
12:37 <Unixkitty> You never know what you may need to reference or look up from past email conversations
12:38 <Unixkitty> Especially since email does work as evidence
12:38 <ADragonHoarding> Yes.
12:38 <ADragonHoarding> Which is why I have copies of those on local storage.
12:38 <ADragonHoarding> But yes, clear out the "sent" folder every so often
12:39 * ADragonHoarding is at that stage now
12:43 <Cepheid> Hmm.
12:43 <Cepheid> Hopefully nothing bad comes of that. My mother finally got out of the chair and onto a bed.
12:43 <ADragonHoarding> potentially progress?
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12:44 <Cepheid> Yeah.
12:44 <Cepheid> She's been chair-bound for some time. It was causing her pain, so we propped up a bunch of pillows on the bed, and she's spread out across it on her side, now.
12:54 <ConfusionRift> Sleeeeeppppahpahpah...
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13:11 <Cepheid> Hum, a divide and conquer problem.
13:12 <Cepheid> Start with one EXA, jump to the next node. Start a new EXA, have them jump to the next nodes. Start a new EXA, have all of them jump to the next node, and so on.
13:12 <Cepheid> 1 becomes 8, attempt to find the file, return.
13:16 <Cepheid> https://redd.it/9r7pb2
13:27 * Schism hmms to Cephy. "Darnit, I can't get that game for a few days."
13:27 <Cepheid> It's another case of Zachtronic's "It's right there in the manual"
13:27 <Schism> Hah!
13:27 * Schism loads Opus Magnum.
13:28 <ADragonHoarding> grabblefrotz. I am at work and tehrefore cannot pleh game
13:29 <Cepheid> Hmm.
13:30 <Cepheid> This is another tricky one, as it involves reading a tape drive. o3o
13:36 * Schism overcomplicates solutions, because that's what this is all about.
13:37 <Schism> I /could/ solve this one with a piston arm.
13:38 <Schism> Or better yet, some tracks.
13:41 <Cepheid> Myself, I take the most direct solution I can find. In a way, this is the best way to get things moving. Optimize after you've gotten it working right.
13:43 <Schism> I know, I know.
13:45 <ADragonHoarding> Yeah, that's what I usually wind up doing
13:46 <ADragonHoarding> Kludge together something that works, so that I can verify I understand what is happening and what needs doing at minimum.
13:46 <ADragonHoarding> Same in Minecraft
13:47 <ADragonHoarding> That system I set up for transfer of mana to the auto-farm? I will be redoing that at some point.
13:49 * Schism nods. Solves another puzzle, but it's... really kludgy.
13:50 <Schism> Okay, game. Lessee what I can do with two of these suckers.
13:55 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/Y54W7QJ
13:55 <Cepheid> That's a kludge.
13:56 <Cepheid> Essentially, each test randomizes the location of the file I need on one of those 8 nodes.
13:56 <Cepheid> So I absolutely need to check every single node.
13:56 <Cepheid> I could have done it through an iterative approach, but this divide and conquer approach was easier.
13:56 <Schism> Hrmm. I'm certain I could do this with just ONE bonding glyph.
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14:00 * Cepheid reads something in the manual. "... I suspect Schism will try this."
14:01 <Schism> Whatever makes you think that?
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14:01 <Cepheid> Because it's a "recipe" to make stale donuts taste yummy.
14:01 <Schism> Hah.
14:01 <Cepheid> And it looks legitimate.
14:01 <Schism> Hack the world, indeed.
14:02 <Schism> Stale donuts are already yummy -- if you dip them in coffee.
14:02 <Cepheid> Take stale donuts, throw 'em in the microwave until soft on the inside, them place 'em on a metal tray or tin foil, turn the broiler of your oven on, place the donuts 2 inches away from the broiler at the top of the oven, keep oven door open, broil for 1-2 minutes.
14:03 <Schism> Yea, though they turn into rocks if you don't eat 'em fast.
14:03 <Cepheid> Yeah.
14:03 <Cepheid> They're called Dumpster Donuts in the booklet.
14:03 <ADragonHoarding> even just microwaving the stale donut for a short time improves the experience.
14:03 <Cepheid> Pretty much.
14:08 <Schism> Hmmm. Right in the middle of some friends on this puzzle. I'll call that 'acceptable'.
14:09 <Schism> Certainly beating most of them on cycles.
14:09 <Schism> There are ways to drop the cost at the expense of cycles, of course.
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14:15 <Cepheid> I had one case where the number of cycles was over 4,000.
14:17 <Cepheid> I can probably cut that down by unrolling the loop.
14:18 <Cepheid> Cut it down to 1790 by unrolling the loop a bit. Let's keep incrementing the amount..
14:20 <Cepheid> 1430. Got a friend who managed 1251, though.
14:24 <Cepheid> Nggghh.. 1311.
14:26 <Cepheid> 1219.
14:28 <Cepheid> 1168. Geezus.
14:28 * Schism grumbles at a desync.
14:29 <Schism> Crud. I can make that one so much better...
14:30 <Cepheid> The problem with the leaderboards is they only show the best they've managed in a given category.
14:31 <Cepheid> So for example, I have the best in cycle count among my friends. I managed 1168 cycles with 50 instructions. However, a friend of mine has managed 16 instructions at 4000+ cycles.
14:31 <Cepheid> Meanwhile we're all matched on activity.
14:31 <Schism> True. But I can speculate as to how to get that far in said category. Obviously, you can't get the fastest, the smallest, and the neatest.
14:32 <Cepheid> Indeed.
14:32 <Cepheid> I do question some of the global leaderboard entries, though.
14:32 <ADragonHoarding> good, fast, and cheap - pick two.
14:32 <Schism> As well you should, heh.
14:32 <Schism> Adra: Pick two on a good day.
14:33 <Schism> I don't measure myself against the global leaderboards. That's a recipe for failure. My friends are a more trustworthy source of data.
14:33 <Cepheid> Schism: I'm almost certain the global leaderboard entries have some hacked ones.
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14:33 <Cepheid> There are cases with an activity of 5.
14:33 <Cepheid> That's not possible on this particular map.
14:33 <Schism> Yeah.
14:34 <Cepheid> Unless there was some way to determine that a link is "good"
14:34 <ADragonHoarding> In Infinifactory I've come up with some neat solutions.
14:34 <Schism> Two distilled water, with an iron in the middle. Bleh.
14:34 <LibrarianofHope> bleh, my dad is a very sick man
14:34 <Cepheid> Alas, there doesn't seem to be a way to do that.
14:34 <LibrarianofHope> no wonder im so hecked up at times
14:34 <LibrarianofHope> someone wanna tarde
14:35 <LibrarianofHope> trade
14:35 <Cepheid> I'm assuming a later document(I could peek at them now, if I wanted to. Game doesn't prevent me from doing so.) will provide some extra functions.
14:35 <Schism> As Zachtronics does.
14:35 <ADragonHoarding> There's one map in Infinifactory that has you painting a giant wall. I came up with a way to elevate the entire track.
14:37 <ADragonHoarding> So I put the elevation mechanic on a trigger system and raised and lowered the wall against the painter block as it ran across it.
14:37 <Cepheid> Heh. The second document talks about loop unrolling, and yep, extra instructions. >.> *Is totally legitimately not cheating.*
14:39 <Cepheid> Though it's just a line to generate code.
14:39 <Cepheid> So it doesn't change anything.
14:42 <Cepheid> Hmm.
14:45 * Unixkitty applies haxorz to Cepheid
14:46 * Schism sighs, "I'm a flaming idiot. Trying to figure out how to keep atoms from colliding here, when I could just keep two adjacent slots open easy as you please."
14:46 <Cepheid> Not the best solution, but it gets the mission done.
14:47 <LibrarianofHope> kitty has mad skills
14:47 <LibrarianofHope> no scope 360
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14:54 <Cepheid> I think I needs me some food.
14:55 <Cepheid> Also, for the record, anyone wondering why I'm not playing multiplayer games, it's because right now? Not a good idea.
14:56 <ADragonHoarding> might get called away at moment's notice?
14:57 <Cepheid> More or less.
14:57 <Cepheid> And the amount of time I'll be called away for varies.
14:57 <Cepheid> Sometimes it's just a few seconds. Other times, it could be minutes.
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15:00 <Cepheid> The weekend is fine though. My dad is home all weekend so I can spend time then.
15:01 <Cepheid> Next week is going to be troublesome.
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15:02 * Schism cuts his cycles down severely. And his area, by a bit. "Now THAT's a bit more like it."
15:08 <Schism> Cepheid: You unlocked the solitaire games in there yet?
15:12 <Cepheid> One of them. If there are any others, I have not.
15:12 <Schism> I've heard there are two. Addictive, though, aren't they?
15:16 <Cepheid> I am not a fan of freecell or solitaire, or any such card games to be honest.
15:17 <Schism> Ah, alrighty then. Though there's a fine marble type of game in Opus Magnum, heh.
15:21 <LibrarianofHope> now read dead 2 comes out
15:22 <LibrarianofHope> red, reading doesnt kill in most cases
15:22 <LibrarianofHope> all the games, no time
15:22 <LibrarianofHope> bleh
15:23 * Schism takes a moment to parse that. "I was gonna say, I was pretty sure a sequel to Read or Die was already out there."
15:24 <Cepheid> Heh.
15:24 <Cepheid> Given the horror stories I've heard about development for that game, I'm hesitant to give Rockstar money right now.
15:25 <Schism> I've not been keeping up. Is it your standard AAA developmental tableau?
15:25 <LibrarianofHope> 100 hour weeks acorrding to some
15:25 <Cepheid> Lots of crunch, with a lot of detail about the type of crunch, so more or less.
15:26 <LibrarianofHope> making games cant be easy
15:26 <Cepheid> It isn't, especially AAA games.
15:26 <Cepheid> Since the marketing and/or sales team can't bloody shut their traps.
15:26 <Schism> Pretty industry-standard, in other words.
15:26 <Cepheid> Give them a three-year timeline, they'll advertise it as being ready in 2 years.
15:27 <LibrarianofHope> heck, i might actually pick up valkyria one for switch
15:28 <LibrarianofHope> i have some golds coins so its more or less cheap
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15:31 * Cepheid switches to ONI
15:31 <Cepheid> New base time.
15:32 <Cepheid> Old one died from food poisoning halting everything.
15:32 <LibrarianofHope> owo
15:32 <LibrarianofHope> i volunterr my digital avatar to be killed in weird ways
15:32 <Cepheid> Okay then.
15:33 <ADragonHoarding> I volunteer to be the idiot that kills everyone.
15:33 <Cepheid> Right then, so that's me, Adra and Librarian. I myself am the "Carries stuff around" dude.
15:34 <LibrarianofHope> for science!
15:34 <Cepheid> ADra is the artist/researcher.
15:34 <Cepheid> And LibrarianofHope is the digger.
15:34 <LibrarianofHope> great, i have dwarvven ancestry
15:34 <Cepheid> The colony's default name is "Dangerous Base"
15:35 <LibrarianofHope> call it, everything is fine
15:35 <ADragonHoarding> *base is on fire* "This is fine."
15:36 <LibrarianofHope> suicide mision
15:37 <LibrarianofHope> you dead suckas
15:37 <LibrarianofHope> lots to work with
15:37 <Cepheid> We're going upwards, this time. Going down is hard.
15:37 <LibrarianofHope> what am i diggin then?
15:37 <LibrarianofHope> clouds
15:37 <LibrarianofHope> hi hooooaaaa!
15:38 * LibrarianofHope splats on ground
15:38 <Cepheid> We start inside an asteroid.
15:38 <Cepheid> So solid material is all around us.
15:39 <LibrarianofHope> yay
15:39 <Cepheid> So you'll be digging upwards.
15:39 <LibrarianofHope> imma get me granpappys pick
15:39 <ADragonHoarding> Digging straight up is asking for lava.
15:40 <ADragonHoarding> ..wait this isn't minecraft.
15:40 <ADragonHoarding> carry on.
15:40 <Cepheid> Magma resides at the bottom. Apparently, this asteroid is a lot like a planet.
15:40 <Cepheid> Deeper you go, the hotter stuff gets.
15:40 <Cepheid> The problem with going downwards though is CO2.
15:40 <LibrarianofHope> i once read a fic where celstia and luna ate lava for some reason
15:40 <LibrarianofHope> they loved it
15:40 <Unixkitty> That must be one large asteroid if it has a molten core.
15:41 <Schism> "And you called this frivolous at first." "It is frivolous. It's just... good at being that."
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16:02 <Schism> H'oookay. Time to pause from Opus Magnum. Heh.
16:02 <ADragonHoarding> Hm. Now i'm randomly wanting to pick up Mount & Blade again.
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16:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: BlueBrony - Imperfection [Orchestral Pop] [ http://tinyurl.com/ybmrat4k ]
16:16 <DashedRainbows> good morning pastel miniature horses
16:17 <Unixkitty> That sounds like one of Finwe's lines
16:17 <Unixkitty> But good day nonetheless
16:17 <Lumin> p o n i e s
16:17 * Unixkitty applies horses to Lumin
16:17 * Lumin squeaks at
16:18 * DashedRainbows ponies then
16:19 * Schism offers Cepheid a mixture of sugar and potassium nitrate, with 1% iron oxide mixed in as an opacifier.
16:21 <Finwe> Miss DashedRainbows.
16:21 <Finwe> Mr Schism.
16:21 * Finwe doffs his hat.
16:22 <Finwe> And good evening, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
16:22 * DashedRainbows curtrsies, sir Finwe
16:22 <LibrarianofHope> i think i got called a flying dno
16:22 <LibrarianofHope> dino
16:22 * LibrarianofHope rawrs
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16:25 * DashedRainbows neighs
16:26 * Unixkitty applies zoology to LibrarianofHope
16:28 <Finwe> Perissodactyls comprise, among others, of horses and ponies. o3o
16:32 <LibrarianofHope> ohhh
16:32 <LibrarianofHope> im a bokkus flyinnus
16:33 * DashedRainbows reads the back cover
16:33 <Finwe> Other groups of perissodactyls apart from Equidae are Tapiridae and Rhinocerotidae.
16:35 <LibrarianofHope> im thinkjing of taking colored pencil and lineart as a hobby
16:35 <LibrarianofHope> simplier than drawing and relaxes my very stresses brain
16:35 <Finwe> So, basically, we have the horse family, the tapir family and the rhinoceros family.
16:38 <DashedRainbows> I could never get into traditional
16:40 <Cepheid> Gaaaahhh. Haven't had a moment to sit down for at least 40 minutes now.
16:43 <Cepheid> First base business, research farming.
16:44 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Librarian, stop researching. You have no learning skill.
16:45 <Cepheid> Librarian is strangely happy.
16:46 <Schism> What happened to that last deliriously happy base last night?
16:46 <ADragonHoarding> puked guts out, I think?
16:46 <Schism> Ah.
16:47 <Cepheid> More or less.
16:47 <Cepheid> Someone contaminated the water supply with food poisoning germs.
16:48 <Cepheid> Our farms died out, so I started making mush bars. Which require water. Which also doesn't sanitize the water before using it.
16:48 <Schism> Aha.
16:49 <Cepheid> Basically, rapid temperature change killed our crops. Hence why I spent bits of last night toying with heat exchange and such.
16:53 * Schism looks at a barbarian who cheats fate. How? By rolling a 7 on a 6-sided die.
16:54 <Schism> (To do so, cut the die in half on its way down.)
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17:28 * Cepheid is trying to get a reservoir up for polluted water.
17:30 <Cepheid> Wwiiiiith all due respect there, Hatch, yer not gonna want to be in there in the next 5 or so minutes.
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17:50 * Schism makes a bunch more Orchestrions. Sells them for 300k gil apiece.
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17:55 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: Discord will solve it [ http://tinyurl.com/ybvyhdqo ]
17:55 * Cepheid runs some air pipes through some water.
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18:22 * Schism spins Cepheid's time.
18:24 <Schism> Oh, Chucklefish. That explains why the style looks familiar.
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18:37 * Sleeping_Nightmares licks Schism
18:37 * Schism transcribes floof onto a grade 3 orchestrion roll!
18:40 <ADragonHoarding> which game?
18:40 <Schism> Cephy's on Timespinners.
18:41 <ADragonHoarding> ah
18:43 * Sleeping_Nightmares purrs and snugglies into Schism
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18:52 * Schism patpats! And also sets up an orchestrion for Filly_Nightmares to listen to.
18:57 <Cepheid> Heh.
18:57 <Cepheid> It's particularly...
18:57 <Cepheid> Castlevania-esque.
18:57 <Cepheid> Takes a *LOT* from the SOTN era games.
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19:21 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Schism tummy
19:23 * Schism patpats the filly, making lots and lots of furniture for game.
19:25 <Schism> "What's with the boots?" "They're so my feet touch the ground. Orthopaedic problem, you see. You know folks with one leg shorter than the other? Funny thing, with me it's--" "Don't tell me, sometimes I get these amazing flashes... both legs are shorter than the other, right?" "Amazing."
19:26 <LibrarianofHope> whats it from?
19:26 <Schism> Interesting Times.
19:26 <LibrarianofHope> i dont recall that much, lots of info running in my brain
19:27 <Schism> >.> http://www.cocoa.uk.com/v4/text/interestingtimes.html
19:28 <LibrarianofHope> i did read it
19:29 <LibrarianofHope> i even like the curse itself, its chinese in reality if i recall
19:29 <Schism> I'm not sure it was ever actually a Chinese curse, but it's commonly cited as such.
19:30 <LibrarianofHope> the spirit of it is fun, out of context its not an obvious one
19:30 <LibrarianofHope> if i say , may you live a life of strife, thats mean
19:30 <LibrarianofHope> but intersting time not so much
19:31 <Schism> "May your cookie always be slightly too large to fit in your glass of milk!"
19:36 <LibrarianofHope> dishonor to you, dishonor to your cow
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19:49 <LibrarianofHope> im creating a vast florid world of humid mists and 2 books later i make it arrakis
19:49 <LibrarianofHope> i love being a writer, we do fun stuff
19:54 * Filly_Nightmares eees at LibrarianofHope
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19:55 * Filly_Nightmares eees excitedly and snugglies into Colgate
19:56 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Cobalt_Blitz next!
19:58 <Cepheid> Finally, double jumping! o2o
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20:00 <Cepheid> I wonder what the critical item/moment will be. All of these games have 'em.
20:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Equestria Into the Wild Trailer - 1000 Mile Adventure with Fluttershy and Friends [ http://tinyurl.com/y77wywok ]
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20:37 <LibrarianofHope> I got a cheapo dvd
20:37 <LibrarianofHope> i got a lot of anime dvds, might as well use it
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20:52 <LibrarianofHope> dont use mods as beds
20:52 <LibrarianofHope> its agains the terms of service
20:52 <LibrarianofHope> and it unfluffs your eeee flufness
20:55 * Filly_Nightmares floofsplodes at LibrarianofHope!
21:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Drum & Bass Music: Sky Runner - The Stalker / Single Purpose - Fond Memories [ http://tinyurl.com/y6vwed5m ]
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21:17 <PinkieShy> Insomia hit me hard last night.
21:17 <PinkieShy> Finally got to sleep at 7:30am
21:17 <PinkieShy> woke at 1pm.. and was so sleepy I fell back to sleep until 4pm.
21:21 <DashedRainbows> That sucks
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21:34 <Schism> Lumindia, you know, at some point people in this game have to stop trusting masked strangers in robes who show up, offering unlimited power.
21:34 <LibrarianofHope> no robes ok?
21:34 <LibrarianofHope> maybe medium limited powah?
21:34 <Lumindia> ?
21:35 <Schism> The Ascians. (Also yay, close to 50 on all classes.)
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23:29 * Thelema5 goes to make pierogi and sausage with sauted onions and mushrooms
23:31 * Schism decides to make some honeyed ginger carrots.
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23:36 <LibrarianofHope> i read fast owo
23:36 <LibrarianofHope> i finished the classic The Foundation in about 2 days
23:36 <PinkieShy> I'm tired of being a victim of bullying all the time :/
23:37 <PinkieShy> I got a threat yesterday online in that VRChat social network/game or whatever it is.
23:37 <PinkieShy> A threat that is big enough if i had proof to get that person banned forever.
23:37 <LibrarianofHope> but not on real life?
23:44 <PinkieShy> Its just in that game.. :/
23:45 <LibrarianofHope> ignore and block him.
23:45 <LibrarianofHope> im not saying its not bad, but no point in getting stresses
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