Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Thursday, 2018-10-25

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00:00 <Twilight_Sparkle> Are we singing the doom song, then?

00:04 * Schism trumpets the DOOM song.

00:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Season 8 Possibly Hitting Netflix November 12th in Canada  [ http://tinyurl.com/ya4fmtgr ]

00:07 <Cepheid> Twilight_Sparkle:  Alas, no.

00:08 * Cepheid checks out EXAPUNKS for a moment, since Schism kept mentioning it in the past.

00:11 <PinkieShy> I'm going to have a good dinner tomorrow :3

00:12 <PinkieShy> Broccoli and cheese with grilled chicken :D

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00:16 <Cepheid> This is more my style, this game.

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00:18 <PinkieShy> Hii DashedRainbows

00:19 * DashedRainbows sits on PinkieShy

00:22 <Twilight_Sparkle> I have won a Civ VI game.

00:24 <Schism> Diplomacy?

00:24 <Twilight_Sparkle> That's not a victory possibility.

00:24 <Schism> Or did you go the Gandhi route and nuke everyone?

00:24 <Twilight_Sparkle> unless possibly in the expansion?

00:24 <Schism> Alliance isn't a victory possibility?

00:25 <Schism> What mad Civ game doesn't have diplomacy/alliance as a possibility?

00:25 <Twilight_Sparkle> victories in Civ VI, aside from score: Culture, Science, Domination, and Religious

00:25 <Schism> Hrm.  Gotcha.

00:25 <Twilight_Sparkle> Science involves colonizing Mars.

00:26 <Twilight_Sparkle> so a science victory is also an industrial victory, because building modules and such.

00:26 <Schism> Right.

00:26 <Twilight_Sparkle> Religious victory means getting it so that the religion your civilization founded is the predominant religion in all civilizations.

00:26 <Twilight_Sparkle> Domination means conquering everyone's capitals

00:27 <Twilight_Sparkle> And culture involves achieving a critical mass of tourism, such that your culture is dominant over everybody else's. I won with a Culture victory.

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00:40 * Cepheid places a curse upon Schism.

00:41 * Schism blinks.

00:41 * Schism also works on making sure that all his crafters have iLvl 290+ gear.

00:50 * Filly_Nightmares eats Schism's curse

00:50 * Filly_Nightmares purrs

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00:52 <PinkieShy> Just ate a raw broccoli floret.. It was a small piece..

00:52 <PinkieShy> It was actually good :3

00:53 <PinkieShy> Left a odd taste in my mouth but i can get over that.

00:53 <Pony|99285> hello pinkieshy

00:53 <PinkieShy> Hiya

00:53 <Pony|99285> wanna chat

00:53 <Pony|99285> wanna chat pinkieshy

00:54 <Pony|99285> pinkieshy are you thaew

00:56 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, even I am not a fan of raw broccoli XD

00:56 <Thelema5> Pony|99285, this is a CHAT room.  Feel free to speak!

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00:57 <Schism> Raw broccoli... eh, it's sometimes good!  I like it steamed.  And coated in cheeeeeese.

00:57 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 It raw is pretty good :3

00:58 <PinkieShy> Just the taste of it.. XD gotta get used to

00:58 <PinkieShy> Having the Broccoli with nacho cheese and grilled chicken for dinner tomorrow :3

00:58 <PinkieShy> I don't know how to steam the fresh broccoli so I'm boiling it

00:58 <PinkieShy> Unless steaming it is very very easy.

00:59 <Thelema5> It's VERY easy

00:59 <Thelema5> You just need a steamer tray.

00:59 <Schism> It is incredibly simple, especially if you get a steamer basket.  :3

01:00 <Thelema5> Put it in a pot with an inch of water, heat to boiling, add your veg and wait a minute, if that

01:00 <PinkieShy> I don't have a steamer tray as far as i know :(

01:01 <PinkieShy> Is boiling it just as good?

01:01 <Thelema5> I'm afraid not. It gets over-cooked VERY quickly

01:02 <PinkieShy> a youtube vid i saw says stir it and keep checking on it when its soft.. Its done..

01:02 <PinkieShy> and add them to the water when it comes to a boil.

01:02 <Thelema5> I'd disagree... soft is too cooked. i prefer al-dente. Pull them when they turn bright green

01:03 <PinkieShy> I guess I'll have to buy the steamer stuff next time :P

01:03 <PinkieShy> Depends if i end up liking it boiled or not XD

01:04 <PinkieShy> Trial and error is the key i guess.

01:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comic Dub: Distracted / Mirror Trap / First Time... / Just a Coincidence [ http://tinyurl.com/ycftgd7v ]

01:05 * Cepheid writes code for XA and sends it off into Schism. It was designed to compel Schism to make a normal sandwich.

01:05 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, here's a good steaming primer https://youtu.be/dQmynwCHLIE

01:05 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 I just found this by google https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-Beach-5-5-Quart-Digital-Steamer-Model-37530/43202556

01:05 <PinkieShy> Might get that..

01:08 <Thelema5> Seems excessive. A steamer basket will only cost like $10, will work with your existing cookware, and is simple and easy to clean

01:10 <PinkieShy> Big lots has it $5 o.o

01:10 <PinkieShy> https://www.biglots.com/product/stainless-steel-vegetable-steamer-basket/p810191622

01:10 <PinkieShy> I'll go there i guess.. Better deal

01:11 <Thelema5> There ya go

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01:21 <Schism> Cepheid: Heh, that reminds me, I need to do more of Opus Magnum.  The levels don't need you to be a genius, but ... I kinda want to optimize my earlier solutions...

01:22 * Schism also makes some zelkova lumber. And should probably craft some tama-hagane ingots. ...

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02:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1599 [ http://tinyurl.com/yanosbut ]

02:05 * Schism pours some chili chocolate tea into floof.

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02:06 <PinkieShy> So..

02:07 <PinkieShy> Thelem5 I found a way to steam it without a steamer..

02:07 <PinkieShy> Youtube says its possible to do with a glass microwave safe bowl

02:07 <Thelema5> Oh?

02:07 <PinkieShy> and a plate to cover it..

02:07 <PinkieShy> they say add a TBSP of water to it and heat it up for a few minutes.

02:09 <PinkieShy> Should i steam it that way..

02:19 * DashedRainbows horses around

02:21 <Schism> It... hrmm.

02:21 <Schism> I am not sure you should...

02:22 <DashedRainbows> I second that

02:28 * DashedRainbows sniffs Thelema5

02:29 <PinkieShy> Schism are you talking to me?

02:30 <Schism> Yah.

02:30 <Schism> While it's possible to do so, it might result in the bowl shattering.  In fact, I'd not be surprised.

02:30 <PinkieShy> I'll just boil it then.. and steam it next time :P

02:32 <Schism> That's just my take on it, but I'd rather you didn't hurt yourself blowing up your microwave.

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02:35 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story Updates - October 24th  [ http://tinyurl.com/y8uzojrt ]

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03:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Moon Flame - Pinkie Pie (Be Sincere) [Pop Ballad] [ http://tinyurl.com/y6w2d3y2 ]

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03:29 <PinkieShy> Schism to be honest the microwave is far from safe to use lol

03:30 <PinkieShy> under the plate that rotates its.. Rusted so bad.

03:30 <PinkieShy> Gotta get a new one..

03:37 <DashedRainbows> Seems perfectly fine :p

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03:58 <DashedRainbows> Imma sleepy pone

03:58 <DashedRainbows> Good night

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04:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Earth to Pony Series Continues  [ http://tinyurl.com/ybof37cj ]

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05:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: <unspecified> [ http://tinyurl.com/ydehoymw ]

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07:02 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

07:14 <PinkieShy> Just got a sia fan to watch the Sia MLP Movie music video.

07:18 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe,

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08:30 <ConfusionRift2> Well! Finally. Package that I was supposed to receive on the 9th, and then got "delivered" on the 15th, finally shows up.

08:31 * Unixkitty sits on ConfusionRift2

08:31 * Unixkitty noms on the "2"

08:31 *** ConfusionRift2 is now known as ConfusionRift

08:32 <ConfusionRift> Barely noticed I disconnected earlier.

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08:37 * ConfusionRift pets Unixkitty. :P

08:44 <ConfusionRift> Diaaablooo! I mean... gonna play some Diablo 3.

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08:59 <PinkieShy> For your daily dose of cuteness https://twitter.com/Coralie_Orgs/status/1049379415224934400

09:00 <ConfusionRift> "Pretty sure I bought a coat, not a cat in a coat." :P

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10:31 <Finwe> o3o

10:31 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony.

10:32 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Mlles Unixkitty and DashedRainbows.

10:32 <Finwe> o7

10:39 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salute)

10:40 <Unixkitty> o/

10:41 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe, Lt. Cdr. ConfusionRift o7

10:48 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Finwe and uses ConfusionRift as a blanket

10:48 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini!

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10:48 * Sleeping_Nightmares purrs

11:03 <ConfusionRift> Have a good one!

11:03 <Finwe> Capt of the Guard Koopz.

11:03 <Finwe> o7

11:05 <Finwe> It was a poor idea to move away from the apartment with free 1 Gbit/s Internet connection. :/

11:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1376 [ http://tinyurl.com/ya93t62x ]

11:05 <Finwe> With mere 100 Mbit/s it takes an eternity to download the 19 GB patch to War Thunder.

11:05 <Unixkitty> Free gigabit internet? What is this madness

11:07 <Finwe> Unixkitty: The apartments in the university campus are equipped with such commodity.

11:08 <Finwe> Upgradable to 10 Gbit/s if you provide your own adapter.

11:22 <ConfusionRift> Welcome to common speeds. :P

11:22 <Cepheid> Welcome to the plebian world, Finwe.

11:23 <Unixkitty> "Mere 100 Mbit/s"

11:23 <Unixkitty> pls

11:31 * ConfusionRift boops Unixkitty. :P

11:32 * Unixkitty flops on ConfusionRift

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11:34 <Phantamanta> Oboi. I had a weird morning today.

11:38 * Cepheid inserts a few programmed EXAs into ConfusionRift.

11:43 <Cepheid> Hmm.  This one's tricky..

11:51 * ConfusionRift looks at the data and instructions. "...the heck is this?"

11:52 <ConfusionRift> 3 years of retail work has boiled my processor into moosh.

11:52 <Cepheid> It's from EXAPUNKS, a game where you code tiny little robots to do things within their limited constraints.

11:53 <ConfusionRift> Aaah, nice.

11:53 <Cepheid> Made by the same madman that made TIS-100, SpaceChem and the like.

11:53 * ConfusionRift has a tiny bot walk... then explodes.

11:54 <Cepheid> Each bot is limited to two registers, a file handle, and a communication port.  You can position them around a network, communicate globally or locally within the same node, and you have to use them to perform complicated tasks.

11:54 <Cepheid> Multiprocessing to the extreme.

11:59 <ConfusionRift> Have played SpaceChem and... yeeeaaaaahhhhh.

12:01 <Cepheid> It seems I have an affinity for writing code that moves things.

12:02 <Cepheid> EXAPUNKS is one of the first Zachtronics games I feel like "completing" because it feels like I'm programming something to move.

12:02 <Cepheid> Similar to my robotics class.

12:03 <ConfusionRift> [(object) move (forward) (2 ft.)] It works. Now to do... everything else around that.

12:04 <ConfusionRift> Man, just got reminded of Alice.

12:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Body Paint / Halloween / Shard 60 / Hyde 12 / Outfield 7 / Pone Wars 7:9 / Entropy 6 [ http://tinyurl.com/yatovxef ]

12:05 <Cepheid> Heh.

12:05 <Cepheid> The robotics I'm dealing with is a bit trickier than that.

12:05 <ConfusionRift> Oh I know.

12:05 <Koopz> Finwe aircraft or groundforces? which nation?

12:06 <Cepheid> We're using a modified version of Java, running on a Linux-based OS.  We're using LEGO motors and sensors, and compatible sensors.

12:06 <Cepheid> Tachometers are only so accurate.

12:07 <Cepheid> Hum, this requires 3 exas.

12:07 <ConfusionRift> That... that some nasty cocktail. I mean, it is the foundation to the whole thing. It's just they do not let it easy, huh. :P

12:07 <Cepheid> Tried with 2, can't do it.

12:07 <Cepheid> I won't lie, there are some problems with the customized version of Java.

12:08 <Cepheid> Namely, you only ever get floating point data from sensors.

12:08 <Cepheid> Even switches, which are just on-off.

12:08 <Cepheid> The touch sensors report 0.0 to 1.0, but are most commonly used for "on-off" switches.

12:09 <Cepheid> So to account for that and make things easier, I wrote a wrapper class around the touch sensor class.

12:09 <Cepheid> It returns a boolean value of true or false depending on whether the sensor is activated or not.

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12:10 <ADragonHoarding> last day before a four-day weekend for me, huzzah!

12:10 <Cepheid> Nice.

12:10 <ConfusionRift> HuzzAAAAHH!

12:11 * Cepheid has to do some finagling to solve this problem.

12:11 <ADragonHoarding> took vacation days because birthday weekend

12:12 <Cepheid> Oh?

12:13 <ADragonHoarding> Yep.

12:13 <Cepheid> Your birthday, or a relatives?

12:13 <ADragonHoarding> Mine.

12:13 <ADragonHoarding> On Sunday.

12:14 <Cepheid> I'll try to remember that, and I apologize ahead of time if I forget.  I would have to be reminded multiple times, or remind myself multiple times before it sticks into long-term memory.

12:14 <Cepheid> As we all know how terrible my short-term memory is these days.

12:14 <ADragonHoarding> Yeah, but no worries anyway

12:14 <ADragonHoarding> I'm at the stage of life where my birthday is no longer super-important

12:14 <Cepheid> Still.

12:15 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, for "bool in float {0.0,1.0}" I use (val > 0.5) to determine true/false.

12:16 <RazorSharpFang> Very odd to have bools in floats like that.

12:16 <Cepheid> The problem isn't just checking the return value of the access function.

12:17 <Cepheid> See, to obtain data, you have to do the following three statements(The first one can be moved elsewhere and omitted in future calls.):  float[] samples = new float[TouchSensor.sampleSize()]; TouchSensor.fetchSamples(samples, 0); if (samples[0] > 0.5) { ... }

12:17 <Cepheid> Very wordy thing for whenever you just want to know if the sensor is being touched at all.

12:18 <Cepheid> Also, you can just check for > 0.0, since the spring and button are such that the button does not touch the internal sensor when it's not pressed down.

12:19 <RazorSharpFang> How peculiar.

12:19 <Cepheid> But yeah, 0.5 is probably a better value to check for.  Or anything above zero.

12:19 <Cepheid> But yeah, I didn't write the library the Java implementation uses.

12:19 <Cepheid> You want better control than that, go poke ev3dev, which is a pure Linux OS install based on Debian.

12:19 <Cepheid> Provides it's own kernel driver to access the sensor and motor ports.

12:20 <ADragonHoarding> friggin' 250 mb mailbox size

12:21 <ConfusionRift> ...really? Odd. Most give more.

12:21 <ADragonHoarding> Corporate outlook.

12:21 <ConfusionRift> Ooooooh, right.

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12:25 <Cepheid> I gather you hit that limit, and there were some bouncebacks.

12:26 <ADragonHoarding> nah, just got the warning e-mail about approaching the limit

12:26 <ConfusionRift> Funny, how they send you an e-mail about reaching the limit, yet said mail also takes space. :P

12:26 <ADragonHoarding> Which means spending 30 minutes to an hour deleting e-mails, so that I don't get cut off from the information flow

12:27 <ADragonHoarding> ConfusionRift: yep! But, at least it's not like that one corporate e-mail system in Deus Ex.

12:30 <ConfusionRift> [Warning - Running out of mail space!] Okay, let me just delete that and then- (sees the same email pop again) Okay, I get it, it's the reason why I'm ridding you. (deletes it, then sees it pop again) Urgh! Fine. Let me delete the others then. (deletes another email, and a warning email takes its place) What the-?! Really?

12:33 <Unixkitty> ADragonHoarding: We have 15GB, users easily let it fill up and then act entirely aghast.

12:34 <ADragonHoarding> 15 GB is stupid large for e-mails.

12:34 <ADragonHoarding> so, yeah, I don't have much sympathy for those users.

12:34 <ConfusionRift> At the community college, I had the same issue. About 250MB-450MB.

12:35 <ConfusionRift> And we had that issue I mentioned earlier.

12:35 <ConfusionRift> Yay, using the end user as a beta tester of a system that's already implemented!

12:36 <Unixkitty> Well, it's not "stupid" large, people do use a few years of emails for reference in keeping business relations and such

12:36 <ADragonHoarding> Ehhh...

12:36 <Unixkitty> The problem is mostly with never cleaning any, subscribing work address to silly services, spam, etc.

12:37 <Unixkitty> Or sending/receiving and keeping media attachments forever.

12:37 <ADragonHoarding> For anything I need to reference regularly, I have a note of it that's not in e-mail.

12:37 <Unixkitty> You never know what you may need to reference or look up from past email conversations

12:38 <Unixkitty> Especially since email does work as evidence

12:38 <ADragonHoarding> Yes.

12:38 <ADragonHoarding> Which is why I have copies of those on local storage.

12:38 <ADragonHoarding> But yes, clear out the "sent" folder every so often

12:39 * ADragonHoarding is at that stage now

12:43 <Cepheid> Hmm.

12:43 <Cepheid> Hopefully nothing bad comes of that.  My mother finally got out of the chair and onto a bed.

12:43 <ADragonHoarding> potentially progress?

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12:44 <Cepheid> Yeah.

12:44 <Cepheid> She's been chair-bound for some time.  It was causing her pain, so we propped up a bunch of pillows on the bed, and she's spread out across it on her side, now.

12:54 <ConfusionRift> Sleeeeeppppahpahpah...

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13:11 <Cepheid> Hum, a divide and conquer problem.

13:12 <Cepheid> Start with one EXA, jump to the next node.  Start a new EXA, have them jump to the next nodes.  Start a new EXA, have all of them jump to the next node, and so on.

13:12 <Cepheid> 1 becomes 8, attempt to find the file, return.

13:16 <Cepheid> https://redd.it/9r7pb2

13:27 * Schism hmms to Cephy. "Darnit, I can't get that game for a few days."

13:27 <Cepheid> It's another case of Zachtronic's "It's right there in the manual"

13:27 <Schism> Hah!

13:27 * Schism loads Opus Magnum.

13:28 <ADragonHoarding> grabblefrotz. I am at work and tehrefore cannot pleh game

13:29 <Cepheid> Hmm.

13:30 <Cepheid> This is another tricky one, as it involves reading a tape drive. o3o

13:36 * Schism overcomplicates solutions, because that's what this is all about.

13:37 <Schism> I /could/ solve this one with a piston arm.

13:38 <Schism> Or better yet, some tracks.

13:41 <Cepheid> Myself, I take the most direct solution I can find.  In a way, this is the best way to get things moving.  Optimize after you've gotten it working right.

13:43 <Schism> I know, I know.

13:45 <ADragonHoarding> Yeah, that's what I usually wind up doing

13:46 <ADragonHoarding> Kludge together something that works, so that I can verify I understand what is happening and what needs doing at minimum.

13:46 <ADragonHoarding> Same in Minecraft

13:47 <ADragonHoarding> That system I set up for transfer of mana to the auto-farm? I will be redoing that at some point.

13:49 * Schism nods. Solves another puzzle, but it's... really kludgy.

13:50 <Schism> Okay, game.  Lessee what I can do with two of these suckers.

13:55 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/Y54W7QJ

13:55 <Cepheid> That's a kludge.

13:56 <Cepheid> Essentially, each test randomizes the location of the file I need on one of those 8 nodes.

13:56 <Cepheid> So I absolutely need to check every single node.

13:56 <Cepheid> I could have done it through an iterative approach, but this divide and conquer approach was easier.

13:56 <Schism> Hrmm.  I'm certain I could do this with just ONE bonding glyph.

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14:00 * Cepheid reads something in the manual. "... I suspect Schism will try this."

14:01 <Schism> Whatever makes you think that?

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14:01 <Cepheid> Because it's a "recipe" to make stale donuts taste yummy.

14:01 <Schism> Hah.

14:01 <Cepheid> And it looks legitimate.

14:01 <Schism> Hack the world, indeed.

14:02 <Schism> Stale donuts are already yummy -- if you dip them in coffee.

14:02 <Cepheid> Take stale donuts, throw 'em in the microwave until soft on the inside, them place 'em on a metal tray or tin foil, turn the broiler of your oven on, place the donuts 2 inches away from the broiler at the top of the oven, keep oven door open, broil for 1-2 minutes.

14:03 <Schism> Yea, though they turn into rocks if you don't eat 'em fast.

14:03 <Cepheid> Yeah.

14:03 <Cepheid> They're called Dumpster Donuts in the booklet.

14:03 <ADragonHoarding> even just microwaving the stale donut for a short time improves the experience.

14:03 <Cepheid> Pretty much.

14:08 <Schism> Hmmm.  Right in the middle of some friends on this puzzle.  I'll call that 'acceptable'.

14:09 <Schism> Certainly beating most of them on cycles.

14:09 <Schism> There are ways to drop the cost at the expense of cycles, of course.

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14:15 <Cepheid> I had one case where the number of cycles was over 4,000.

14:17 <Cepheid> I can probably cut that down by unrolling the loop.

14:18 <Cepheid> Cut it down to 1790 by unrolling the loop a bit.  Let's keep incrementing the amount..

14:20 <Cepheid> 1430.  Got a friend who managed 1251, though.

14:24 <Cepheid> Nggghh.. 1311.

14:26 <Cepheid> 1219.

14:28 <Cepheid> 1168.  Geezus.

14:28 * Schism grumbles at a desync.

14:29 <Schism> Crud.  I can make that one so much better...

14:30 <Cepheid> The problem with the leaderboards is they only show the best they've managed in a given category.

14:31 <Cepheid> So for example, I have the best in cycle count among my friends.  I managed 1168 cycles with 50 instructions.  However, a friend of mine has managed 16 instructions at 4000+ cycles.

14:31 <Cepheid> Meanwhile we're all matched on activity.

14:31 <Schism> True.  But I can speculate as to how to get that far in said category.  Obviously, you can't get the fastest, the smallest, and the neatest.

14:32 <Cepheid> Indeed.

14:32 <Cepheid> I do question some of the global leaderboard entries, though.

14:32 <ADragonHoarding> good, fast, and cheap - pick two.

14:32 <Schism> As well you should, heh.

14:32 <Schism> Adra: Pick two on a good day.

14:33 <Schism> I don't measure myself against the global leaderboards.  That's a recipe for failure.  My friends are a more trustworthy source of data.

14:33 <Cepheid> Schism:  I'm almost certain the global leaderboard entries have some hacked ones.

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14:33 <Cepheid> There are cases with an activity of 5.

14:33 <Cepheid> That's not possible on this particular map.

14:33 <Schism> Yeah.

14:34 <Cepheid> Unless there was some way to determine that a link is "good"

14:34 <ADragonHoarding> In Infinifactory I've come up with some neat solutions.

14:34 <Schism> Two distilled water, with an iron in the middle.  Bleh.

14:34 <LibrarianofHope> bleh, my dad is a very sick man

14:34 <Cepheid> Alas, there doesn't seem to be a way to do that.

14:34 <LibrarianofHope> no wonder im so hecked up at times

14:34 <LibrarianofHope> someone wanna tarde

14:35 <LibrarianofHope> trade

14:35 <Cepheid> I'm assuming a later document(I could peek at them now, if I wanted to.  Game doesn't prevent me from doing so.) will provide some extra functions.

14:35 <Schism> As Zachtronics does.

14:35 <ADragonHoarding> There's one map in Infinifactory that has you painting a giant wall. I came up with a way to elevate the entire track.

14:37 <ADragonHoarding> So I put the elevation mechanic on a trigger system and raised and lowered the wall against the painter block as it ran across it.

14:37 <Cepheid> Heh.  The second document talks about loop unrolling, and yep, extra instructions.  >.>  *Is totally legitimately not cheating.*

14:39 <Cepheid> Though it's just a line to generate code.

14:39 <Cepheid> So it doesn't change anything.

14:42 <Cepheid> Hmm.

14:45 * Unixkitty applies haxorz to Cepheid

14:46 * Schism sighs, "I'm a flaming idiot. Trying to figure out how to keep atoms from colliding here, when I could just keep two adjacent slots open easy as you please."

14:46 <Cepheid> Not the best solution, but it gets the mission done.

14:47 <LibrarianofHope> kitty has mad skills

14:47 <LibrarianofHope> no scope 360

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14:54 <Cepheid> I think I needs me some food.

14:55 <Cepheid> Also, for the record, anyone wondering why I'm not playing multiplayer games, it's because right now?  Not a good idea.

14:56 <ADragonHoarding> might get called away at moment's notice?

14:57 <Cepheid> More or less.

14:57 <Cepheid> And the amount of time I'll be called away for varies.

14:57 <Cepheid> Sometimes it's just a few seconds.  Other times, it could be minutes.

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15:00 <Cepheid> The weekend is fine though.  My dad is home all weekend so I can spend time then.

15:01 <Cepheid> Next week is going to be troublesome.

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15:02 * Schism cuts his cycles down severely. And his area, by a bit. "Now THAT's a bit more like it."

15:08 <Schism> Cepheid: You unlocked the solitaire games in there yet?

15:12 <Cepheid> One of them.  If there are any others, I have not.

15:12 <Schism> I've heard there are two.  Addictive, though, aren't they?

15:16 <Cepheid> I am not a fan of freecell or solitaire, or any such card games to be honest.

15:17 <Schism> Ah, alrighty then.  Though there's a fine marble type of game in Opus Magnum, heh.

15:21 <LibrarianofHope> now read dead 2 comes out

15:22 <LibrarianofHope> red, reading doesnt kill in most cases

15:22 <LibrarianofHope> all the games, no time

15:22 <LibrarianofHope> bleh

15:23 * Schism takes a moment to parse that. "I was gonna say, I was pretty sure a sequel to Read or Die was already out there."

15:24 <Cepheid> Heh.

15:24 <Cepheid> Given the horror stories I've heard about development for that game, I'm hesitant to give Rockstar money right now.

15:25 <Schism> I've not been keeping up.  Is it your standard AAA developmental tableau?

15:25 <LibrarianofHope> 100 hour weeks acorrding to some

15:25 <Cepheid> Lots of crunch, with a lot of detail about the type of crunch, so more or less.

15:26 <LibrarianofHope> making games cant be easy

15:26 <Cepheid> It isn't, especially AAA games.

15:26 <Cepheid> Since the marketing and/or sales team can't bloody shut their traps.

15:26 <Schism> Pretty industry-standard, in other words.

15:26 <Cepheid> Give them a three-year timeline, they'll advertise it as being ready in 2 years.

15:27 <LibrarianofHope> heck, i might actually pick up valkyria one for switch

15:28 <LibrarianofHope> i have some golds coins so its more or less cheap

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15:31 * Cepheid switches to ONI

15:31 <Cepheid> New base time.

15:32 <Cepheid> Old one died from food poisoning halting everything.

15:32 <LibrarianofHope> owo

15:32 <LibrarianofHope> i volunterr my digital avatar to be killed in weird ways

15:32 <Cepheid> Okay then.

15:33 <ADragonHoarding> I volunteer to be the idiot that kills everyone.

15:33 <Cepheid> Right then, so that's me, Adra and Librarian.  I myself am the "Carries stuff around" dude.

15:34 <LibrarianofHope> for science!

15:34 <Cepheid> ADra is the artist/researcher.

15:34 <Cepheid> And LibrarianofHope is the digger.

15:34 <LibrarianofHope> great, i have dwarvven ancestry

15:34 <Cepheid> The colony's default name is "Dangerous Base"

15:35 <LibrarianofHope> call it, everything is fine

15:35 <ADragonHoarding> *base is on fire* "This is fine."

15:36 <LibrarianofHope> suicide mision

15:37 <LibrarianofHope> you dead suckas

15:37 <LibrarianofHope> lots to work with

15:37 <Cepheid> We're going upwards, this time.  Going down is hard.

15:37 <LibrarianofHope> what am i diggin then?

15:37 <LibrarianofHope> clouds

15:37 <LibrarianofHope> hi hooooaaaa!

15:38 * LibrarianofHope splats on ground

15:38 <Cepheid> We start inside an asteroid.

15:38 <Cepheid> So solid material is all around us.

15:39 <LibrarianofHope> yay

15:39 <Cepheid> So you'll be digging upwards.

15:39 <LibrarianofHope> imma get me granpappys pick

15:39 <ADragonHoarding> Digging straight up is asking for lava.

15:40 <ADragonHoarding> ..wait this isn't minecraft.

15:40 <ADragonHoarding> carry on.

15:40 <Cepheid> Magma resides at the bottom.  Apparently, this asteroid is a lot like a planet.

15:40 <Cepheid> Deeper you go, the hotter stuff gets.

15:40 <Cepheid> The problem with going downwards though is CO2.

15:40 <LibrarianofHope> i once read a fic where celstia and luna ate lava for some reason

15:40 <LibrarianofHope> they loved it

15:40 <Unixkitty> That must be one large asteroid if it has a molten core.

15:41 <Schism> "And you called this frivolous at first." "It is frivolous.  It's just... good at being that."

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16:02 <Schism> H'oookay.  Time to pause from Opus Magnum.  Heh.

16:02 <ADragonHoarding> Hm. Now i'm randomly wanting to pick up Mount & Blade again.

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16:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: BlueBrony - Imperfection [Orchestral Pop] [ http://tinyurl.com/ybmrat4k ]

16:16 <DashedRainbows> good morning pastel miniature horses

16:17 <Unixkitty> That sounds like one of Finwe's lines

16:17 <Unixkitty> But good day nonetheless

16:17 <Lumin> p o n i e s

16:17 * Unixkitty applies horses to Lumin

16:17 * Lumin squeaks at

16:18 * DashedRainbows ponies then

16:19 * Schism offers Cepheid a mixture of sugar and potassium nitrate, with 1% iron oxide mixed in as an opacifier.

16:21 <Finwe> Miss DashedRainbows.

16:21 <Finwe> Mr Schism.

16:21 * Finwe doffs his hat.

16:22 <Finwe> And good evening, my perissodactyls of minute stature.

16:22 * DashedRainbows curtrsies, sir Finwe

16:22 <LibrarianofHope> i think i got called a flying dno

16:22 <LibrarianofHope> dino

16:22 * LibrarianofHope rawrs

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16:25 * DashedRainbows neighs

16:26 * Unixkitty applies zoology to LibrarianofHope

16:28 <Finwe> Perissodactyls comprise, among others, of horses and ponies. o3o

16:32 <LibrarianofHope> ohhh

16:32 <LibrarianofHope> im a bokkus flyinnus

16:33 * DashedRainbows reads the back cover

16:33 <Finwe> Other groups of perissodactyls apart from Equidae are Tapiridae and Rhinocerotidae.

16:35 <LibrarianofHope> im thinkjing of taking colored pencil and lineart as a hobby

16:35 <LibrarianofHope> simplier than drawing and relaxes my very stresses brain

16:35 <Finwe> So, basically, we have the horse family, the tapir family and the rhinoceros family.

16:38 <DashedRainbows> I could never get into traditional

16:40 <Cepheid> Gaaaahhh.  Haven't had a moment to sit down for at least 40 minutes now.

16:43 <Cepheid> First base business, research farming.

16:44 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Librarian, stop researching.  You have no learning skill.

16:45 <Cepheid> Librarian is strangely happy.

16:46 <Schism> What happened to that last deliriously happy base last night?

16:46 <ADragonHoarding> puked guts out, I think?

16:46 <Schism> Ah.

16:47 <Cepheid> More or less.

16:47 <Cepheid> Someone contaminated the water supply with food poisoning germs.

16:48 <Cepheid> Our farms died out, so I started making mush bars.  Which require water.  Which also doesn't sanitize the water before using it.

16:48 <Schism> Aha.

16:49 <Cepheid> Basically, rapid temperature change killed our crops.  Hence why I spent bits of last night toying with heat exchange and such.

16:53 * Schism looks at a barbarian who cheats fate. How? By rolling a 7 on a 6-sided die.

16:54 <Schism> (To do so, cut the die in half on its way down.)

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17:28 * Cepheid is trying to get a reservoir up for polluted water.

17:30 <Cepheid> Wwiiiiith all due respect there, Hatch, yer not gonna want to be in there in the next 5 or so minutes.

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17:50 * Schism makes a bunch more Orchestrions. Sells them for 300k gil apiece.

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17:55 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: Discord will solve it [ http://tinyurl.com/ybvyhdqo ]

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18:22 * Schism spins Cepheid's time.

18:24 <Schism> Oh, Chucklefish.  That explains why the style looks familiar.

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18:37 * Sleeping_Nightmares licks Schism

18:37 * Schism transcribes floof onto a grade 3 orchestrion roll!

18:40 <ADragonHoarding> which game?

18:40 <Schism> Cephy's on Timespinners.

18:41 <ADragonHoarding> ah

18:43 * Sleeping_Nightmares purrs and snugglies into Schism

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18:52 * Schism patpats! And also sets up an orchestrion for Filly_Nightmares to listen to.

18:57 <Cepheid> Heh.

18:57 <Cepheid> It's particularly...

18:57 <Cepheid> Castlevania-esque.

18:57 <Cepheid> Takes a *LOT* from the SOTN era games.

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19:21 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Schism tummy

19:23 * Schism patpats the filly, making lots and lots of furniture for game.

19:25 <Schism> "What's with the boots?" "They're so my feet touch the ground.  Orthopaedic problem, you see.  You know folks with one leg shorter than the other?  Funny thing, with me it's--" "Don't tell me, sometimes I get these amazing flashes... both legs are shorter than the other, right?" "Amazing."

19:26 <LibrarianofHope> whats it from?

19:26 <Schism> Interesting Times.

19:26 <LibrarianofHope> i dont recall that much, lots of info running in my brain

19:27 <Schism> >.>  http://www.cocoa.uk.com/v4/text/interestingtimes.html

19:28 <LibrarianofHope> i did read it

19:29 <LibrarianofHope> i even like the curse itself, its chinese in reality if i recall

19:29 <Schism> I'm not sure it was ever actually a Chinese curse, but it's commonly cited as such.

19:30 <LibrarianofHope> the spirit of it is fun, out of context its not an obvious one

19:30 <LibrarianofHope> if i say , may you live a life of strife, thats mean

19:30 <LibrarianofHope> but intersting time not so much

19:31 <Schism> "May your cookie always be slightly too large to fit in your glass of milk!"

19:36 <LibrarianofHope> dishonor to you, dishonor to your cow

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19:49 <LibrarianofHope> im creating a vast florid world of humid mists and 2 books later i make it arrakis

19:49 <LibrarianofHope> i love being a writer, we do fun stuff

19:54 * Filly_Nightmares eees at LibrarianofHope

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19:55 * Filly_Nightmares eees excitedly and snugglies into Colgate

19:56 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Cobalt_Blitz next!

19:58 <Cepheid> Finally, double jumping! o2o

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20:00 <Cepheid> I wonder what the critical item/moment will be.  All of these games have 'em.

20:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Equestria Into the Wild Trailer - 1000 Mile Adventure with Fluttershy and Friends [ http://tinyurl.com/y77wywok ]

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20:37 <LibrarianofHope> I got a cheapo dvd

20:37 <LibrarianofHope> i got a lot of anime dvds, might as well use it

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20:52 <LibrarianofHope> dont use mods as beds

20:52 <LibrarianofHope> its agains the terms of service

20:52 <LibrarianofHope> and it unfluffs your eeee flufness

20:55 * Filly_Nightmares floofsplodes at LibrarianofHope!

21:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Drum & Bass Music: Sky Runner - The Stalker / Single Purpose - Fond Memories [ http://tinyurl.com/y6vwed5m ]

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21:17 <PinkieShy> Insomia hit me hard last night.

21:17 <PinkieShy> Finally got to sleep at 7:30am

21:17 <PinkieShy> woke at 1pm.. and was so sleepy I fell back to sleep until 4pm.

21:21 <DashedRainbows> That sucks

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21:34 <Schism> Lumindia, you know, at some point people in this game have to stop trusting masked strangers in robes who show up, offering unlimited power.

21:34 <LibrarianofHope> no robes ok?

21:34 <LibrarianofHope> maybe medium limited powah?

21:34 <Lumindia> ?

21:35 <Schism> The Ascians.  (Also yay, close to 50 on all classes.)

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23:29 * Thelema5 goes to make pierogi and sausage with sauted onions and mushrooms

23:31 * Schism decides to make some honeyed ginger carrots.

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23:36 <LibrarianofHope> i read fast owo

23:36 <LibrarianofHope> i finished the classic The Foundation in about 2 days

23:36 <PinkieShy> I'm tired of being a victim of bullying all the time :/

23:37 <PinkieShy> I got a  threat yesterday online in that VRChat social network/game or whatever it is.

23:37 <PinkieShy> A threat that is big enough if i had proof to get that person banned forever.

23:37 <LibrarianofHope> but not on real life?

23:44 <PinkieShy> Its just in that game.. :/

23:45 <LibrarianofHope> ignore and block him.

23:45 <LibrarianofHope> im not saying its not bad, but no point in getting stresses

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