Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Saturday, 2018-10-27

00:01 <Schism> Adra: Anyway, the two types of Zachlikes are generally straight nodal programming, and 'factory' styled.  For the former, the more polished the game the better.  EXAPUNKS probably contains fewer headaches than trying to wrap your way around Shenzhen or, worst of all, TIS-100.

00:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: SFM: Carry Me Home [ http://tinyurl.com/y9h4m28t ]

00:06 <Schism> I don't think there... /is/ a Zachlike game (Yet) where you program nodes like that and then have others move them around, at least as such.

00:09 * Filly_Nightmares eees at Schism

00:09 *** Joins: Thelema5|away (Thelema5@Pony-kcapv4.east.verizon.net)

00:11 <Schism> Hmm.  Cepheid.

00:11 *** Thelema5|away is now known as Thelema5

00:11 <Schism> I has idea.  Maybe bad idea, maybe good.  Iz idea.

00:12 <Thelema5> Does idea involve cheezburgers?

00:12 <Autumn> There is no such things as bad ideas. Just bad execution.

00:13 <Thelema5> Bad idea, goo execution: "Hey, let's make Trump President"!

00:13 <Thelema5> *god

00:13 <Thelema5> *good

00:13 <Cepheid> What's the idea, Schism?

00:13 <Autumn> It's not a perfect saying.

00:13 <Schism> The idea being - what about a hex-grid strategy game, where the units are comprised of certain parts - parts which are programmed and set up by the creator.  There's still the good/fast/cheap thing.  Some parts might be really really cheap, some might be good at some aspects but not others.

00:13 <Cepheid> Hmm.

00:13 <Schism> The player gets to pick from a library they program themselves, and decide on a turn-by-turn basis what to produce.

00:14 <Schism> This can go all the way down to the production aspect.

00:15 <Cepheid> Heh.

00:15 <Schism> Here's the hard-to-program aspect.

00:16 <Schism> If the enemy pokes at the player's base, and gets away with some parts... it might start reproducing them.

00:16 <Cepheid> That particular aspect wouldn't be that tricky.

00:16 <Schism> Figuring out how to make best use of them might be.

00:17 <Schism> Then again, numerologically speaking...

00:17 <Schism> Heh.  Mathematically.  I'm half dead right now, pardon my lexicographical quirks.

00:18 <Cepheid> Heh.

00:18 <Autumn> So much fancy programmer talk. :o

00:18 <Schism> But yeah, the idea being that the player is tasked with producing and programming the pieces which then go into the field.

00:18 <Schism> Autumn: Oh, this isn't programmer talk, per se.  It's engineering and game design.

00:19 <Schism> Autumn: You familiar with rock-paper-scissors?

00:19 <Cepheid> But yes, we do discuss programming here.  I'm a CS stu- ...

00:19 <Cepheid> Hey, question.

00:19 <Schism> Myerp?

00:19 <Cepheid> I have a diploma in CS, and I'm a student.  What does that make me?

00:19 <Schism> Post-grad.

00:19 <Schism> Or possibly Associate.

00:20 <Autumn> Just teasing mostly. Shouldn't be surprised though. Techponies is more popular than the Equestria Daily channel.

00:20 <Autumn> And yeah, I know Rock-paper-scissors.

00:20 <Schism> This isn't even really tech per se.

00:20 <Schism> But yeah.  Fast, good, cheap.  Pick two, on a good day.

00:20 <Autumn> Exactly what a techie would say.

00:21 <Cepheid> Heh. :P

00:21 <Cepheid> This channel goes all over the place with topics.

00:22 <Autumn> It is the main page.

00:22 * Autumn shrugs.

00:22 <Schism> In a hex grid game, do you want to flood the whole area with a bunch of quick machines for early advantages which're going to get steamrolled later - do you want to turtle down and have a ton of strong units later on - or do you want to economize for a middle-ground?

00:22 <Cepheid> We actually have little to no association with the website outside of the name.

00:22 <Schism> More or less.  And also: Unicorn, pegasus, or earth pony?  :P

00:23 <Autumn> Who? o:

00:23 * Schism offers Autumn a hot dog.

00:24 * Autumn really shouldn't... But can't resist. She scoots over and bites the hotdog.

00:24 <Autumn> What do you mean, Cepheid?

00:24 *** Quits: RyuImperator (RyuImperato@Pony-3ml7ni.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Leaving.)

00:24 <Schism> Joking and old references aside, that's the RPS thing.  Rocks are of course Earth Ponies; paper is Pegasi, who fly; scissors are unicorns, who shoot them down.

00:25 <Autumn> So... What does that have to do with... What are we even talking about?

00:25 <Autumn> 6_9

00:26 <Autumn> Am I suppose to pick one, or just go with what Autumn is? :P

00:26 <Schism> Well, in a programming game, you oftentimes have to sacrifice one aspect for another.  You can make a very fast program which takes up a lot of resources -- or one which is small, but slow -- or one which is expensive, but combines the two.

00:27 <Cepheid> Schism's discussing things randomly. :P

00:27 <Cepheid> Anyways, as I was saying..

00:27 <Schism> If I'm not making sense, I should sleep.  Sorry, I'm on my own kinda weird layer.

00:27 * Lumindia_ pushes Schism into bed

00:27 <Lumindia_> Go to sleep

00:27 * Lumindia_ casts Repose on them

00:28 <Autumn> I get the basics. Three options, pick two. That concept isn't only applied to programming. :P

00:28 *** Tempo-Sleep is now known as Tempo

00:28 <Cepheid> None of the administrators of the Equestria Daily website reside here.  They may have at one point, but not anymore.  Outside of the name of the IRC channel #EquestriaDaily, and a bot that reports on posts made on the website, we have no association with the website.

00:29 <Autumn> That's a shame.

00:29 * Autumn use to always use Canternet via the EQD site.

00:30 <Autumn> Technically I still am. Just haven't been on in a long time.

00:30 <Schism> We're still active, as such things go.  Communities don't just disappear, after all.

00:30 <Schism> Our primary focus has just shifted from 'pony pony pony' to 'things related to us'.

00:30 <Autumn> #DieWithTheHerd

00:30 <Schism> If that makes any sense.

00:31 <Autumn> It does. :)

00:33 <Autumn> I feel like the amount of people on Canternet use to be larger too.

00:34 * Filly_Nightmares gnaws on Autumn

00:34 <Schism> That is more or less a given.  Fandoms wax and wane as their targets do.  You needn't look any further than the Star Trek fandom, greatly associated with our own, in that regard.

00:36 <Autumn> I like the think the MLP fandom isn't going to die. That might be hopeful thinking though.

00:37 <Schism> It's very unlikely to, especially since the MLP fandom - and the Hasbroverse in general - have been around longer than I've been alive.

00:37 <Autumn> There just has been a lot of doom and gloom in recent times.

00:38 <Schism> Whether G4 is relegated to the same tier as the others, that's another question.  I think that G4, like G1, will be a shining example of the best of MLP, and what remains to be seen is whether G5 can be anything like it in terms of quality.

00:38 <SunsetShimmer> Plenty of dead cartoons still have semi-active fanbases years after they end anyway

00:39 <Schism> I find it helpful to take as an example the Transformers fanbase, and the works in that franchise.

00:39 <Autumn> I haven't really kept up with G5 news but, having another Generation doesn't seem like too bad a thing. It's not FIM, but it's still MLP. right?

00:39 <Schism> More or less.  Guarded optimism is the best idea there.

00:40 <Autumn> Fingers Crossed Micheal Bay doesn't get the rights to make MLP movies.

00:40 <Autumn> :P

00:41 <Schism> The Great and Powerful Trixie approves of these world-shattering explosions.

00:41 <Autumn> I can get behind Guarded Optimism though. FIM had a very nice and interesting world. Even before the fandom was a thing, it was clear that crafted Equestria with care.

00:42 <Autumn> I hope that part is retained in the new generation.

00:42 <Autumn> that they*

00:43 <ADragonDreaming> hmmm...

00:43 <ADragonDreaming> 5 cycle start-up with a 6 cycle repetition

00:43 <Schism> That sounds backwards.

00:43 <Autumn> Here they go again.

00:44 * Autumn hides under a box and listens to music.

00:45 <ADragonDreaming> it might sound backwards, but that's what occurring in order to get the correct prime atom.

00:45 <Schism> Adra: Sounds like you need to get that second process started as the first one proceeds.

00:47 <Schism> Autumn: It's not that hard to grok, at least this idea. Say you've got an assembly line.  The first person attaches one wheel, the second person attaches the second, et cetera.  Does the person at the start of the line need to wait for the last person to finish a piece before they start the next item?

00:47 <ADragonDreaming> the six cycle process is due to the actions needed to transmute the prime atom. one to grab, two to rotate twice, across two transmutation glyphs, one to release in new spot, and two to rotate back

00:47 <Autumn> Well, no.

00:48 <Schism> Of course, the backwards rotation Adra describes is more like two people passing a piece of paper to the person at the end, then turning back to get the next one...

00:48 <ADragonDreaming> the five cycle start is because the process of calcinating a water atom to a prime atom is only two cycles - one grab, one turn.

00:48 <Autumn> I'm just a little lost. Probably because I missed over half the conversation in the beginning.

00:49 <Autumn> Don't let me stop you from discussing stuff with your friends. :P

00:49 <Schism> Autumn: What Adra and I are discussing are just a series of motions done by machines in a virtual factory.  The goal is to get those machines to do things efficiently.  Like building an assembly line.

00:50 <Autumn> That makes sense.

00:50 <ADragonDreaming> hmm... but binding and then orienting the result will take at minimum 7 cycles with this setup.

00:52 * ADragonDreaming scraps it all

00:52 * Autumn sells the scrap for profit.

00:52 <Schism> By way of explanation, here's one such example.  The four-piece green on the right is the output.  https://imgur.com/a/FGfkaRM

00:54 <Autumn> It sure does looks nice and efficient.

00:54 <Autumn> The Hair Product part throws me off a little.

00:54 <Schism> It's fictional alchemy and all that.  I forget what the green is supposed to represent - wind or something.

00:55 <Schism> That grey part left of the middle binds two pieces together.

00:55 <Autumn> Of course it's wind. How else can you get wavy hair?

00:55 <Schism> And make sure it's immune to any stray gusts, of course.  He had to have perfect hair.

00:56 <Autumn> You can truly be a anime character with gravity defying hair. ^_^

00:57 <Autumn> So far it all makes sense.

00:58 <Schism> Here's an example of one of my earlier, and less elegant, solutions.  https://i.imgur.com/3IaR7kT.gif

00:59 <Autumn> Speak for yourself. I like how smooth it is. It doesn't even stop for a second on the bottom part. Just binds together and goes.

01:01 <Schism> True, but then I look at this absurdly expensive piece.  https://g.redditmedia.com/hEUgmcDMFFACejwHE2qNvsK2PZ-I59whpe5M_mU7mG0.gif?fm=mp4&mp4-fragmented=false&s=4137b9a658c0f7a9866875676c3ab951

01:01 <Autumn> That is pretty... Interesting.

01:03 <Schism> The beauty of games like this is that there's no one 'real' solution.  Unlike in The Incredible Machine, you're not tasked with assembling the pieces in exactly the right order.

01:03 <Schism> And the game won't stigmatize you for solving things inefficiently.  It will, however, proceed to show you the best times, costs and areas of your friends.

01:04 <Autumn> *Friends*. Truly there is nothing worse.

01:04 <ADragonDreaming> huzzah, did it.

01:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: What was the best episode of the first half of My Little Pony Season 8? [ http://tinyurl.com/y8ewhzr7 ]

01:05 <Autumn> What does this IRC use to make italics and bold and stuff?

01:06 <Autumn> BBC?

01:06 <Schism> I don't use that chat client, I'm afraid, so I can't say for sure.  I use ctrl-I for italics, but this doesn't show up on many others.

01:06 * DashedRainbows flops in

01:06 <Autumn> [i]I can try this.[/i]

01:07 <Schism> I generally tend to default to the old USENET variables, *bolds*, /italics/ and _underscores_.

01:07 <Autumn> Not that apparently.

01:07 <Schism> HTML, not so much, no.

01:07 <Schism> Or BBCode in that case.

01:07 <Autumn> I tried [i] and * and so far no luck.

01:08 <ADragonDreaming> hooow do I get exapunks into windowed mode?

01:08 <Schism> Oh.  There is also the fact, Autumn, that the channel is in a state which strips most tags.

01:08 * Autumn throws a cloudball at DashedRainbows.

01:08 <Schism> So... bolds and underlines won't work.  Sorry, I forgot about that.

01:08 <ADragonDreaming> it seems to be hard-locked fullscreen

01:08 <Autumn> I:

01:08 <Schism> Also.  Sometimes you want to come up with a completely absurd solution to a reasonable problem.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QicKI9L13Oo

01:08 <Autumn> You're killing me Schism.

01:09 <Schism> Adra: Is there no option menu?

01:09 <ADragonDreaming> tehre is, but all the various display options are locked out.

01:09 * DashedRainbows licks Autumn

01:09 <Schism> Really?  ... that seems absurd.

01:09 <Schism> My Documents/My Games/EXAPUNKS/userid/config ?

01:10 <Schism> What's your resolution on that box, Adra?

01:10 <ADragonDreaming> mmm... on laptop right now, max is ...

01:10 * ADragonDreaming waits for windows display settings window to open

01:11 * Autumn scrunches her muzzle a little and leans back, tilting her head. "Hey there." She softly says, booping Rainbow's nose.

01:11 <ADragonDreaming> 1366x768

01:11 <Schism> Okay, you're already at minimum resolution then.

01:11 <Autumn> You poor thing.

01:11 <ADragonDreaming> ah

01:11 <ADragonDreaming> okay then.

01:11 * Autumn isn't sure she could go back to a time before 16 by 9

01:12 <Schism> Autumn: That last link was a challenge mission on SpaceChem.  You're /supposed/ to use both red and blue to move the atoms around to form the molecule.  I decided to spaghetti.

01:12 <Schism> Because screw what you're /supposed/ to do.

01:13 <Autumn> Very clever. I think.

01:13 <Schism> It's not.  Well.  It is, but it's cleverness at the expense of efficiency, time and cost.

01:13 <Autumn> That's the best kind of cleverness.

01:14 <Schism> But darnit, sometimes you want to be silly.

01:14 <Autumn> I can agree with that!

01:14 <Schism> There are a lot of solutions in these games where efficiency takes a backseat to fun.

01:14 <Autumn> Efficiency can be fun.

01:15 <Schism> Oh, absolutely.  But forcing yourself to be efficient all the time...

01:15 <SunsetShimmer> Some people are better at that than others

01:15 <Autumn> I wouldn't say I'm a min-maxer but I get quite a lot of pleasure out of optimizing my characters in tabletops games.

01:16 <Schism> Tabletop games are tricky.  There's always going to be at least one 'optimizer' unless you're running prebuilt characters, and it's hard not to fall by the wayside in comparison.

01:16 <Autumn> Maybe pleasure was a poor choice of words.

01:16 <ADragonDreaming> hm. pdf manual, eh?

01:16 <Schism> A measure of satisfaction, Autumn?

01:16 <Schism> Adra: YES, PDF MANUALS.  Which are you looking at?

01:16 <Autumn> Joy seems better. Or that. :P

01:16 <ADragonDreaming> exapunk.

01:16 <ADragonDreaming> I ain't gonna print it, that costs too much.

01:17 <Schism> Oh, yeah.  But you're definitely going to be alt-tabbing back to it, or at least using a cheat-sheet.

01:17 <Schism> Get a spiral notebook and write down the important bits, because you are gonna need that manual.

01:18 <PinkieShy> Do you guys think adding my streams on twitch under a furry catagory could get me some views :3

01:18 <PinkieShy> Furry catagory as in community :P

01:18 <Schism> Ermmmm.  Does it qualify?  Are you going to be playing furry games?

01:18 <Schism> And are you in that?

01:19 <PinkieShy> I've been hanging out with furries online alot lately :P

01:19 <Schism> Yeah, but... I mean... probably not a good plan.

01:19 <Schism> Don't get me wrong, it's just that if you're not yourself a furry, doesn't really work.

01:20 <Autumn> I mean... Define Furry?

01:21 <PinkieShy> Furries have told me, If i like anthropomorphic animals or want to be one.. I am one :P

01:21 <PinkieShy> I also feel like my fursona is a dog :P

01:22 <ADragonDreaming> I would not agree with that definition myself.

01:22 <Schism> It's not an exclusive community, but using it as a tag to get more views is kind of a bad plan.

01:22 <Autumn> You don't necessarily need to get a fursuit and act like an animal to be a furry, right?

01:22 <ADragonDreaming> I figure it mostly requires deciding you want to be considered as such

01:23 <Autumn> Considered an animal?

01:23 <ADragonDreaming> I like Disney's Robin Hood, Kung Fu Panda, Zootopia, etc. - I do not consider myself Furry.

01:24 <PinkieShy> Heck i have a maskimal that is like a wolf head and i love it :D

01:24 <ADragonDreaming> But mostly I'm just against any kind of automatic inclusion into a label.

01:24 <PinkieShy> Its so fluffy and just amazing to wear :3

01:24 <Schism> Adra: Those who appreciate those works, and seek those out for those particular qualities, might be described as furries.

01:24 <Autumn> There is a reason people can debate the definition of furry for hours... Mostly because it's so nebulous.

01:24 <ADragonDreaming> Provided they desire to be so described, yes.

01:24 <Schism> Well, yes.

01:24 <Schism> A person can like MLP everything, but if they say they're not a brony, then no, they're not a brony.

01:25 <ADragonDreaming> Yes.

01:26 <Autumn> Maybe we shouldn't be so discouraging though.

01:26 <Schism> Ultimately, much like many fandoms, I'd say 'if you consider yourself a furry, you're a furry'.  But using the tag to describe yourself as such for the benefit of more views is likely to result in backlash.

01:26 <Autumn> Love and Tolerate. Remember that?

01:26 <ADragonDreaming> So instead of "If you like anthropomorphic animals, you are a furry" it should be "If you like etc., you /can be/ etc."

01:26 <ADragonDreaming> But, yes, if the goal is more views on your channel

01:27 <ADragonDreaming> be aware that adding that tag could also drive viewership away

01:27 * Filly_Nightmares knead kneads Autumn

01:27 * Filly_Nightmares purrs

01:27 <Schism> Not just people who are against furry content, but people who wind up on there because you've described the channel as such, falsely.

01:27 * Autumn shivers and flops onto her belly as Nightmare kneads her back (I assume back.)

01:28 * Filly_Nightmares uses Autumn as a nest!

01:28 <Schism> Filly_Nightmares is an equal-opportunity kneader.  Faces, backs, eyes.

01:28 <Autumn> Not my beautiful eyes.

01:28 <Autumn> I need those.

01:28 <Autumn> At minimum, one of them.

01:28 * Filly_Nightmares licks Schism cheekies

01:28 <ADragonDreaming> I'd say, if you're going to wear the maskimal all the time?

01:28 <ADragonDreaming> go ahead.

01:28 * Schism pours some warm porridge into the Filly_Nightmares.

01:29 * Filly_Nightmares purrs! Is hunger floof!

01:29 * Autumn isn't sure what Filly is.

01:29 <ADragonDreaming> some kind of fluffy changeling?

01:29 <Schism> Batty changeling of skree, I'm given to understand.

01:30 * Autumn wiggles and flaps her wings a little bit as Filly gets comfortable on her back.

01:30 <ADragonDreaming> but also apparently made of floof?

01:30 <Schism> !link surreal

01:30 <DerpyBot> https://derpibooru.org/3102

01:30 <Schism> Not quite.

01:30 <Autumn> Aww~

01:30 <Autumn> The Floor is Lava~

01:31 <Autumn> Remember the good old days, when everybody was just a pony?

01:31 <Autumn> Now there is, like, seven billion things to be.

01:32 <Schism> Just a changeling here.

01:32 <ADragonDreaming> I was never a pony.

01:32 <Schism> Turns out that making good food garners a lot of love.

01:32 <Autumn> Heh. Old Changeling or new? :P

01:32 <Autumn> The old ones had some appeal.

01:32 <Schism> Old, TYVM.  New looks like saltwater taffy with too much food colouring.

01:33 <Autumn> Changing the Changelings. One of the great changes.

01:33 <Autumn> The first great change being Alicorn Twilight.

01:34 <Schism> Thanks, M.A. Larson.

01:34 * Autumn wasn't even all bothered by that.

01:35 <Schism> It seemed like a logical enough conclusion to me, too.

01:35 <Autumn> There seemed to be a unproportionately large amount of negativity towards it at the time.

01:35 <Schism> Apotheosis.  Though it did diminish the unicorn count by one.

01:35 <Schism> "This show I've loved has changed, now it's ruined forever."

01:36 <Autumn> Heh. I mean, Twilight can barely fly.

01:36 <Schism> Well, could.  She put up a good showing when Tirek destroyed her library.

01:37 * Autumn was endeared with Rainbow needing to train Twilight to fly. ^_^

01:37 <Autumn> I suppose. Twilight does also have teleporting now.

01:38 <Autumn> She barely needs wings.

01:38 <Autumn> Man, if I could teleport... I wouldn't walk anywhere.

01:38 <ADragonDreaming> oh, there's the F register.

01:38 <ADragonDreaming> depends on what the cost of teleportation was.

01:39 <Schism> Autumn: Except that teleportation requires an initial investiture of energy, and then an exponentially increasing amount based around distance, thus necessitating multiple hops for efficiency's sake.

01:39 <Schism> ...is what I figure is the case.

01:39 <Autumn> Well, destroying yourself on the atomic level and reassembling yourself somewhere else is just suicide.

01:39 <ADragonDreaming> also knowing where you're going.

01:40 <Autumn> Hey guys, Mud called. It needs you to stick yourselves in it.

01:40 <Autumn> You big sticks in the mud.

01:40 <Schism> Magic has to be sensible too.  o3o

01:40 <Autumn> It's magic though. XD

01:41 <Autumn> Explain time travel for me.

01:41 <Autumn> Shouldn't twilight need an infinitive amount of energy for that?

01:41 <Autumn> infinite*

01:41 <Schism> The universe runs two processes in parallel which converge at specific points.

01:42 <Schism> Because of the energy required for one of the simulations to pauses, those convergences can only last a few seconds.

01:42 <Schism> to pause*

01:43 <ADragonDreaming> Magic demands only enough explanation to explain why it is used in the way it is used

01:43 <Schism> And can only go back so far.

01:43 <Autumn> I don't know, Twilight and Glimmer were in past Clousdale for a while.

01:43 <ADragonDreaming> but also Twilight herself is something of a scientist with it?

01:44 <Autumn> And then in the new future even longer.

01:44 <ADragonDreaming> basically the idea behind explaining why teleportation isn't used constantly is because teleporation isn't used constantly, and therefore there must be a reason she doesn't use it constantly.

01:44 <ADragonDreaming> simplest reason is "walking is more efficient"

01:44 <Schism> That series of past events were temporal simulations run by the Cutie Map, to show what would happen if Starlight Glimmer meddled at various points.  They weren't permanent.  During those simulacra, Twilight and Starlight were suspended.

01:45 <Autumn> Psshh.

01:45 <ADragonDreaming> ...they really aren't even trying to hide that you're being contracted by an AI of some kind in this game.

01:45 <Autumn> Silly Schism.

01:45 <Schism> Adra: Kinda obvious, ne?

01:45 <Schism> Autumn: Hey, makes more sense...

01:46 <Autumn> Or it was time travel. XD

01:46 <Autumn> Sometimes it's the most simple answer that is correct.

01:46 <Schism> Time travel is merely staggeringly unlikely.  The Cutie Map's sophonce is impossible.  Therefore, the latter must be true.

01:47 <Autumn> It's a map though.

01:47 <Schism> It's the Tree of Harmony.

01:47 <Autumn> It's magic. So why is one type of magic more likely than another?

01:47 <Schism> When you remove the staggeringly unlikely, then whatever remains, however impossible, must be the truth.

01:48 <Schism> A series of absurd coincidences requires me to believe in a wide variety of unlikely things, whereas an impossibility simply requires one thing I'd not hitherto considered.

01:48 *** Joins: Stormspark (stormspark@Pony-2i7.fvo.126.65.IP)

01:48 <Autumn> You're removing the staggeringly unlikely unjustly!

01:49 <Autumn> I for one can attest that time travel is way cooler than simulations.

01:50 <Autumn> War with the Crystal Empire is the coolest universe.

01:50 * Thelema5 offers everypony butter crackers with extra sharp cheddar cheese

01:51 <Autumn> No, you're being sharp!

01:51 <Autumn> I mean, thanks! :3

01:51 <Thelema5> XD

01:51 * Autumn scoots over and nibbles the cracker right out of Thelema's hoof.

01:51 * Thelema5 giggles

01:52 * DashedRainbows relicks Thelema5

01:52 * Autumn flaps her wings and looks up. "More~?"

01:53 * Thelema5 offers a whole platter

01:53 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, how are you?

01:53 * Autumn shakes her head. "Feed me~!"

01:53 <DashedRainbows> the truth, horrible

01:54 <Autumn> Aww. :/

01:54 <DashedRainbows> so, earlier I got a call

01:54 <DashedRainbows> to schedule a bone marrow biopsy

01:54 <Thelema5> Oh?

01:54 <Thelema5> How come?

01:54 <DashedRainbows> a) it took a month b) omg no

01:55 <DashedRainbows> because, presumably, my bllood came back weird

01:55 <Thelema5> Sounds awful

01:55 <ADragonDreaming> hm. an exa can only hold one file at a time, right?

01:55 * Thelema5 hugs DashedRainbows

01:56 <DashedRainbows> I don't mind the biopsy itself

01:56 <DashedRainbows> just what it could mean

01:56 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  Yes.

01:56 <Thelema5> I'm sure they're just being cautious

01:57 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  If you need to copy data to a new file, there's a few ways to do it.  One's slow, the other is tricky to work with 'cause of the way the communication system works.

01:57 <DashedRainbows> I hope so

01:57 <DashedRainbows> still, a month...

01:58 <Thelema5> That's a long time

01:58 <DashedRainbows> how is Thelema5?

01:58 * Autumn isn't sure exactly what you need it for, but I wish you the best, Rainbow.

01:59 <DashedRainbows> worst case something terminal

01:59 <DashedRainbows> I mean best casee

02:00 <DashedRainbows> sigh

02:00 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, I'm ok

02:00 <DashedRainbows> I thought I was fine

02:01 <Thelema5> Don't jump ahead. It's just a test.

02:01 <DashedRainbows> also this withdrawal is killing me

02:02 * DashedRainbows has to stay strong

02:02 <Autumn> That's the spirit you need. :)

02:02 <DashedRainbows> it sure beats crying hopelessly

02:03 <Cepheid> By the way, ADragonDreaming?  If you're ever concerned with size..

02:03 <Cepheid> Halt immediately implies Drop.

02:03 <DashedRainbows> I feel so bleh

02:04 <Cepheid> Googie:  How in the heck did you get size 3 on the first puzzle?  I'm curious.

02:04 <DashedRainbows> I'm sure it's nothing compared to alcohol withdrawal but meh

02:04 <PinkieShy> I wanna try beer..

02:05 <PinkieShy> But again always something telling don't.

02:05 <DashedRainbows> PinkieShy: it's not good

02:05 <DashedRainbows> like, really

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02:05 <Cepheid> PinkieShy, honestly?  Beer tastes like *YAY*.

02:05 <Cepheid> It tastes like what I imagine you think broccoli tastes like.

02:05 <DashedRainbows> agree

02:06 <Autumn> How does something taste like *YAY*?

02:06 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy

02:06 <Cepheid> *YAY* is my way of censoring words.

02:06 <Thelema5> Meh. Depends on the beer. There is a world of variation

02:06 <Googie> Cepheid: Give me a sec

02:06 <Autumn> X_X

02:07 * Autumn tries licking Rainbow's cheek.

02:08 * DashedRainbows barks

02:08 <Googie> If a bot reaches the end of its program it dies and drops whatever it was holding

02:08 <Autumn> :o

02:08 <Schism> Beer is most useful for making bread.

02:08 <Autumn> Woof.

02:08 <Googie> Cepheid:

02:08 <Cepheid> I gather this is going to be something blindingly obvious that I can't see.

02:09 <ADragonDreaming> ...I'm confused by something...

02:09 <Cepheid> Hmm?

02:09 <Googie> I just posted above

02:09 <Googie> So there's no need for any special handling at the end, just

02:09 <Googie> If a bot reaches the end of its program it dies and drops whatever it was holding

02:09 <Cepheid> ...

02:09 <Cepheid> Oh gods.

02:09 <Cepheid> I forgot all about that.

02:10 <Cepheid> Also, it showed as a blank line. :P

02:10 <ADragonDreaming> why the run continuing past the halt?

02:10 <Googie> Yeah, I posted that before and then pinged you after.

02:11 <Cepheid> Oh

02:11 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  Hmm?

02:11 <Cepheid> Can you clarify what you mean?

02:11 <ADragonDreaming> mmmm

02:11 <ADragonDreaming> okay, so it's tutorial 4.

02:11 <ADragonDreaming> maybe it's just a display issue, but despite fulfilling requirements, when I run the thing at visible speed, I get a file that goes from like, 66, to 35?

02:12 <Cepheid> Oh, that

02:12 <Cepheid> It's running different test cases.

02:12 <Cepheid> There's 100 of 'em.

02:12 <ADragonDreaming> oh, I see

02:12 <Cepheid> See the "Test Run" thing above the requirements window?

02:12 <ADragonDreaming> the value in the file changes each time

02:12 <Cepheid> Hit the arrows.  It switches test runs.  Later tests will have wildly different configurations.

02:13 <Cepheid> You'll find cases where the number of connected nodes to a central node might be 2 in one run, 3 in another, or 1 in another, and so on.

02:13 <Cepheid> It's basically testing your code to determine if it works with different configurations of the scenario.

02:14 <ADragonDreaming> right right.

02:14 <ADragonDreaming> to make sure you're using variables instead of just the data you see in the file.

02:14 <Cepheid> It's sometimes useful to help get an idea as to what you need to do, as the descriptions aren't always the cleanest.

02:15 <ADragonDreaming> so what you're saying, googie, is that the halt command is mostly unnecessary?

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02:15 <Googie> In the basic case, yeah.

02:15 <Googie> It becomes more important later.

02:16 <Cepheid> When you're dealing with multiple EXAs, yeah, it becomes useful.

02:17 <ADragonDreaming> yeah, conditional halts and such

02:18 <ADragonDreaming> Was Euclid's pizza the one where you burned it down just because?

02:19 <Cepheid> Yes.

02:19 <Cepheid> You can't actually burn it down, but you can toy with stuff there.

02:19 <ADragonDreaming> might come back to it later and toy around, right now just gonna solve puzzle

02:19 <Cepheid> I like to imagine setting the oven to maximum temperature for extended duration causes problems.  As well as playing around with power and such.

02:21 * Cepheid continues to play games while waiting for father to come home. He's currently out at a party hosted by his ex-boss.

02:21 <ADragonDreaming> hm.

02:22 <ADragonDreaming> ah. to the /end/ of the file.

02:22 <ADragonDreaming> hmmmm... have to read the file until the end, and then start copying.

02:23 <PinkieShy> I fell to sleep at 3am last night..

02:23 <Googie> There's some additional useful instructions in the manual.

02:24 <PinkieShy> Woke at 7:50am.. Couldn't get back to sleep didn't feel sleepy

02:24 <Googie> w.r.t file manipulation.

02:24 <Cepheid> Indeed.

02:24 <ADragonDreaming> runtime errors and how to exploit them. "can't read past end of file" is going to trigger a thing, I bet.

02:24 <PinkieShy> But earlier took an hour nap.. :/ I hope i get at least 8hrs tonight..

02:26 <ADragonDreaming> ...swizzle? what?

02:26 <Autumn> I pretty tired right now.

02:26 <ADragonDreaming> oh, rearrange order of characters.

02:26 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

02:26 <Cepheid> Also, I just learned another trick, myself.

02:27 <ADragonDreaming> oh, okay, seek command is what I want

02:28 <Cepheid> Any files on your home system, so long as they stay there, will not be considered for the "leave no trace" requirement.

02:28 <Cepheid> So you don't need to wipe those files if they aren't moved outside the home system.

02:29 <ADragonDreaming> yeah, I just confirmed that myself

02:29 <Cepheid> I only just figured it out in doing the pizza one again.

02:29 <ADragonDreaming> might be why I have a size 14 compared to your size 16.

02:29 <ADragonDreaming> though my cycle count is greater.

02:30 <Cepheid> I just pulled off 14, myself.  Though yeah, the cycle count is a bit high.

02:30 <ADragonDreaming> "Surprised?"

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02:30 <ADragonDreaming> Me: Where's the option for "no"

02:30 <Cepheid> Heh.

02:31 <Cepheid> If it's any consolation, Googie makes me look like a newbie. :P

02:32 <ADragonDreaming> yeah, I have googie's results as well.

02:32 <ADragonDreaming> ...donuts in the oven?

02:32 <Cepheid> One way of prepping them.

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02:35 <Cepheid> Overall though, me, Googie and my other programmer friend are pretty much all over the place in all 3 areas.

02:36 <Cepheid> You're pretty much on par with us so far.

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02:37 <ADragonDreaming> yes, but so far the puzzles have been ... very straightforward.

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02:37 <Cepheid> Yep.

02:37 <ADragonDreaming> discrepancies in approach are sure to present themselves as progression occurs.

02:37 <ADragonDreaming> aaaaand straight to the self-hacking.

02:39 <ADragonDreaming> hmm...

02:42 <ADragonDreaming> there's no if command. fjmp and tjmp are how to do conditional things, it seems.

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02:43 * Cepheid sets the peanut blast factory to output the stuff at a rate of 1cm/s, and sets the temperature of everything to 400F.

02:48 * ADragonDreaming headtilts

02:49 <ADragonDreaming> test x > -121 is not functioning as it should.

02:50 <ADragonDreaming> oh wait.

02:50 <ADragonDreaming> no, it is functioning correctly, I just misread the description.

02:55 <ADragonDreaming> ...activity 133 googie?

02:55 <ADragonDreaming> what does activity measure, even

02:56 <ADragonDreaming> ty deadlock

03:04 <ADragonDreaming> wahey, I cycled lower

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03:09 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  How many moves an EXA makes.

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03:12 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  As for his 133 cycle count, I presume he did it with a single EXA, moving back and forth a lot.

03:15 <PinkieShy> I feel awful and yet weird.. weird in a bad way lke something bad is about to happen to me.

03:15 <PinkieShy> I feel like i should go lay down for an hour..

03:16 <Thelema5> Might not be a bad idea, PinkieShy

03:16 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 the feeling feels like if i don't i might fall backwards

03:16 <PinkieShy> Could been something i ate.. Who knows.

03:17 * DashedRainbows sits on PinkieShy

03:17 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, I feel like that most of the time

03:17 <Thelema5> You'll be okay

03:20 <ADragonDreaming> Hwacha!

03:20 <ADragonDreaming> 74 cycles on ghast help

03:21 <ADragonDreaming> oh. 73.

03:22 <Cepheid> My unnamed friend has you beat at 72.

03:23 <ADragonDreaming> hmmmm..

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03:25 <Thelema5> Ugh, gross... it's expected to rain and storm all day tomorrow

03:26 <Thelema5> I've not left the house in more than a week, I was hoping to go outside

03:26 <DashedRainbows> Aww

03:26 <Thelema5> I guess I'll just stay in bed all day

03:26 * Filly_Nightmares uses Thelema5 as a bed

03:27 <DashedRainbows> Not a bar plan 0.o

03:29 * DashedRainbows is a pretty pony

03:32 * Thelema5 braids pink satin ribbons in DashedRainbows mane

03:33 <DashedRainbows> Yay

03:33 <ADragonDreaming> oh right I can make files to store things.

03:34 <Cepheid> Yup.

03:36 <ADragonDreaming> need a logic loop that increments something I can use as the "row" by 1 when x = 9, and need to increment x each time.

03:36 <ADragonDreaming> or possibly store the rows in the file.

03:38 * Cepheid gets the print shop to waste toner.

03:40 * Cepheid lets the code run forever to get an achievement.

03:41 <Cepheid> Aaand there we are.

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03:42 * DashedRainbows feels sick. Perhaps I should head in

03:47 <Thelema5> Probably not a bad idea

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03:50 <ADragonDreaming> long cycle time on that one

03:50 <ADragonDreaming> ah well.

03:52 <Cepheid> Managed it with a single EXA though, better than me.

03:52 <ADragonDreaming> no, I had 2 exas

03:53 <ADragonDreaming> I just only had one link command

03:53 <Cepheid> Ah.

03:53 <ADragonDreaming> one exa stayed in my node feeding the message characters

03:53 <ADragonDreaming> the other exa did all the writing work.

03:54 <Cepheid> Right.

03:54 <Cepheid> I did it with two EXAs in the same node.  I'd have to do a complete rewrite to get it to work that way.

03:54 <Cepheid> I was half-asleep when I did that one, I think.

03:56 * DashedRainbows dances about deliriously

03:56 <ADragonDreaming> hmm...

03:57 <Cepheid> Unknown Network 1, right?

03:57 <ADragonDreaming> yes.

03:57 <Cepheid> Have fun, so far of all the people I know on Steam who play the game, I'm the only one to have solved it so far.

03:57 <Cepheid> So I'd like to see what your results are.

03:58 <ADragonDreaming> every link is 800 or 801

03:58 <Cepheid> This is an example of where it helps to look at different test runs to design your code.

03:58 <ADragonDreaming> yes, which I did.

03:59 <ADragonDreaming> you clearly need to get an exa into each end node.

03:59 <ADragonDreaming> then run a kill command.

03:59 <ADragonDreaming> grab the file. If the grab fails, the exas die.

03:59 <Cepheid> Right.

03:59 <ADragonDreaming> so then you run your exa back to the home node.

04:00 <ADragonDreaming> in fact, let's write the code-block for coming home now.

04:01 <Cepheid> Heh.

04:02 <ADragonDreaming> okay, how to text against a text string

04:02 <ADragonDreaming> okay, how to test against a text string

04:03 <ADragonDreaming> I'm gonna have to use an exa to broadcast the home address, aren't I...

04:05 <RazorSharpFang> I'm beginning to suspect that my bluescreens are from either the graphics card, or the graphics drivers. The first thing that goes is the display, with audio continuing to play until actual bluescreen.

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04:07 * DashedRainbows licks all the pones before bed

04:07 <DashedRainbows> Night

04:10 * Filly_Nightmares is sad floof

04:13 * ADragonDreaming hacks Filly_Nightmares floof

04:16 <Cepheid> Gnight everyone.  Need sleep.  New glasses tomorrow.  Back whenever.

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04:18 <Filly_Nightmares> :<

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04:28 <ADragonDreaming> huzzah!

04:28 <ADragonDreaming> https://imgur.com/G2k1OdD

04:28 <ADragonDreaming> Googie, I did the unknown network.

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04:35 <ADragonDreaming> Schism, I conquered the unknown network

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07:32 <ADragonDreaming> macro instructions! finally, something approaching a function with parameters.

07:32 <ADragonDreaming> harrumph

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11:32 <Cepheid> Morning.

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11:45 <ADragonDreaming> morning

11:45 <RazorSharpFang> Morning

11:45 <Cepheid> You didn't sleep, did you Adra?

11:45 <ADragonDreaming> nope

11:46 <ADragonDreaming> I'm on vaca right now anyway

11:46 <Cepheid> Fair enough.

11:46 <Cepheid> Nicely done on the unknown network by the way.

11:47 <ADragonDreaming> repl is a powerful command

11:47 <Cepheid> It is, yes.

11:48 <RazorSharpFang> I've got so many trains on the Factorio server that they're starting to get congested.

11:48 <ADragonDreaming> swiz was a lot harder to wrap my head around.

11:49 <Cepheid> It took me a few minutes too.  Mostly because the order is the reverse of what I am familiar with.

11:49 <ADragonDreaming> yes

11:52 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I said I'd cover how I did the Unknown Network 1, so give me a moment to screenshot the code.

11:55 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/Fgx6IrR.png I should replace that series of "LINK -1" with a loop.

11:55 <Cepheid> Anyways, basically I know the number of steps to the nodes at the far end, so I count the steps as I progress along.

11:56 <Cepheid> I also abuse the fact that if you try to access a link that doesn't exist, the EXA terminates.

11:57 <ADragonDreaming> yeah, I exploited that on a later puzzle

11:57 <ADragonDreaming> the atm one, I think.

11:57 <ADragonDreaming> ...no, not the ATM one.

11:57 <ADragonDreaming> ah right, the library one.

11:57 <Cepheid> Heh.

11:57 <Cepheid> Right, so you got the Redshift unlock one, too.

11:57 <ADragonDreaming> yes.

11:58 <Cepheid> Sweet friggen geezus you beat me on cycles on that one.

11:58 <ADragonDreaming> the password unlock?

11:58 <Cepheid> And size.  And activity.

11:58 <Cepheid> Yeah.

11:58 <ADragonDreaming> yes, because swiz

11:58 <ADragonDreaming> I looked up some stuff on how swiz works, so it wasn't all me

11:58 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's the one where swizzling is necessary.

12:00 <ADragonDreaming> here: https://imgur.com/a/MB3BbOu

12:00 <Cepheid> Yeah, I know how to improve it in some areas.

12:00 <ADragonDreaming> swiz logic adds zero's as necessary.

12:01 <ADragonDreaming> so swiz 0 3 will read 000 and return the 0. swiz 1 3 will read 001 and return the 0. etc.

12:02 <ADragonDreaming> xb waits for the reploid to enter the debug link and start broadcasting, then kills the password hacker and copies the necessary.

12:03 <Cepheid> Yeah, it's more the instruction count for me.  This was before I thought of the idea of doing stuff like SWIZ X 3 #PASS, instead of SWIZ X 3 T, COPY T #PASS, etc.

12:04 <ADragonDreaming> ah, right

12:04 <ADragonDreaming> bypassing the secondary register and such

12:04 <Cepheid> Yeah, that dropped me to 1st place on the table.

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12:04 <Cepheid> For cycles, anyways.

12:04 <ADragonDreaming> yarp

12:13 <Cepheid> Managed 21 instructions.  I don't think I'll manage the activity my friend managed anytime soon though.  She managed to get 3 activity on that one.

12:13 <Cepheid> I suspect that has to do with her 10.5k(!!!) cycle count, too.

12:17 <RazorSharpFang> What is Swiz?

12:18 <Cepheid> It's called swizzling in full, it's basically a permutation of an input.

12:18 <Lumindia_> Castlevania time!

12:18 <Cepheid> You take a set of values, specify a sequence of numbers, and you'll get the values back in the order specified in the sequence.

12:19 <Cepheid> So for example, we have the set { 55, 82, 41, 32 } and specify a swizzling pattern of { 3, 2, 4, 1 }, you'd get { 41, 82, 32, 55 }

12:19 <ADragonDreaming> second operand in swiz is the locator, and goes /right to left/ - 1 in second operand is the right-most character.

12:20 <Cepheid> I see it used a lot in shader programming, but not much elsewhere except in cryptography.

12:20 <ADragonDreaming> at least the swiz as used in expapunks.

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12:30 <Cepheid> Hum, the modem one was a bit tricky.

12:31 <ADragonDreaming> yes

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12:34 <Cepheid> Just how far did you end up getting?

12:35 <ADragonDreaming> alliance power and light

12:35 <ADragonDreaming> working on that one now

12:36 <ADragonDreaming> now that I've gotten my head around jump and mark being basically function calls...

12:37 <ADragonDreaming> What I'm attemtping to do on this one is difficult to test prior to completion.

12:39 <Cepheid> You can CTRL+CLICK to execute to the selected instruction.

12:41 <ADragonDreaming> alt+click, I think

12:42 <Cepheid> Ah, yeah, it's alt.  My mistake.

12:50 <ADragonDreaming> ...ah.

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12:50 <ADragonDreaming> That would be a point of failure for the whole thing, wouldn't it.

12:50 <ADragonDreaming> Scrap it and start over, it is!

12:51 <Cepheid> Heh.

12:52 <Googie> Glad to see you're enjoying it.

12:53 <Cyan_Spark> Googie :'3

12:53 * Googie needs to go back and resolve a few challenges that got changed from beta

12:53 * Cyan_Spark touches

12:53 * Googie boops Cyan_Spark

12:53 * Cyan_Spark mrp. Licks hoof.

12:54 <Cyan_Spark> Ling made a thing? .3.

12:54 <Googie> Nah, just watching Adra going through Exapunks.

12:55 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I'm going back to sleep, myself.  I didn't sleep enough.

12:57 <ADragonDreaming> I need to call "check for propagation" functions prior to checks for cut power.

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13:33 <RazorSharpFang> The Tumblr video player and CDN bandwidth allocation is so bad that it's taken me a whole hour to get halfway through a three-minute video.

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14:52 <Schism> So, you folks recall that story of an 8-year-old girl pulling a 1,500 year old sword from a lakebed?

14:54 <Schism> Some time afterwards, this happened.  https://twitter.com/backt0nature/status/1054815722159857666

14:56 <Schism> (Yes, on the opposite end of the country, but still.)

15:10 <Schism> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/sports/baseball/red-sox-dodgers-world-series.html - when it takes seven and a half hours to catch that Snitch.

15:15 <Schism> Cepheid, for when you awake: On the catwalk, I do my routine... https://twitter.com/bozzylumpkins/status/1055929915663704065

15:17 <RazorSharpFang> Fairly sure Ceph's been awake recently

15:17 <RazorSharpFang> Oh wait, they went TO sleep

15:17 <Schism> Yus.

15:17 * Schism pats RSF, offers a cup of coffee?

15:17 <RazorSharpFang> Probably not a good idea at 11:17 PM

15:18 <Schism> You kidding?  Midnight on a weekend is the best time to have a few cups.

15:18 <RazorSharpFang> Is your sleep cycle that messed up?

15:20 <Schism> It's not, really -- but I'm slowly slipping.  I need to wake up earlier and earlier.

15:20 <RazorSharpFang> That's real hard.

15:20 <RazorSharpFang> Don't expect to make more than half an hour per night at most.

15:20 <Schism> Oh, I know.

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15:45 <Schism> This is truly the snack of the gods.  https://twitter.com/ggezn00b/status/1053220917772455938

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16:14 * Schism rolls over and boops SunsetShimmer with a cup of tea, along with some iced lemon shortbreads.

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16:34 * SunsetShimmer slides in with coffee of darkest black!

16:35 * Schism headtilts! Still offers shortbreads, though: they go well with black coffee. o3o

16:37 <SunsetShimmer> x3

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17:00 * DashedRainbows stretches

17:17 * Schism stretches a bit as well, then goes 'gneep' as his shoulder pops.

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17:46 <Schism> Sigh, lotsa spambots still.

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17:58 * Thelema5 spams derpybot

17:59 <Thelema5> I need something to do today; it's cold and rainy outside and I'm all alone

17:59 <Thelema5> Going a bit stir crazy

18:00 <Thelema5> Maybe I'll make some pepperoni

18:04 * DashedRainbows licks Thelema5

18:05 * Thelema5 counterlicks!

18:07 * DashedRainbows is meh

18:08 <DashedRainbows> Luckily I had some zofran

18:09 * DashedRainbows tastes of nausea and horse

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18:10 <Thelema5> :(

18:14 <Schism> Damn... my father's condition has taken a turn for the worse.  This time I will be going south, bringing my craptop and little else, but that's the way things go.

18:15 <Thelema5> Schism, so sorry to hear that

18:15 <SunsetShimmer> Oh man.

18:15 <Schism> It's 2018... what can be said?

18:15 <Schism> Thanks, though.

18:22 <Thelema5> When will you depart?

18:24 <Schism> Likely a few hours from now.

18:24 <Thelema5> Safe travels.

18:24 <Schism> Going through the border during rush hour is not a pleasant experience, least of all on this Saturday, but there's no hope for it.

18:34 <Schism> This time, at least, I know that I'm not going to get hit by that stress overload that happened last week.

18:36 <Thelema5> Yeah, that was bad

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18:45 <Schism> That's packed, that's packed, and that's packed... throw on some David Bowie for sake of simplicity...

18:46 <Thelema5> Good choice

18:46 <Schism> Also, The Who.

18:47 <Schism> And a little bit of AC/DC.

18:47 <Thelema5> dynomite

18:48 <Thelema5> *dynamite

18:50 * Schism also of course makes sure to pocket the 3.5mm male-male cord this time.

18:51 <ADragonDreaming> for charging things?

18:56 <Schism> No, I won't have a USB charging station in the car, so that's moot.  This is for plugging the phone into the auxiliary port in the car stereo.

19:01 <ADragonDreaming> ah

19:02 <Schism> I should perhaps - even probably - take a walk, as I won't have the option to for a good while.

19:03 * Schism shall be back soon. For a bit, at least.

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19:27 <PinkieShy> Got a new bank card in the mail.. When i didn't even request a new one.. While my current expires 2020..

19:27 <PinkieShy> New one expires 2023.. heh

19:30 <ADragonDreaming> is the new one with a chip and the old one is not?

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19:31 <Lumindia> Oh god, my ears!

19:31 <Lumindia> D:

19:33 <PinkieShy> The new one is and the old one is..

19:33 <PinkieShy> The only difference is the mastercard logo looks newer lol

19:33 <PinkieShy> plus the chip isn't scratched up

19:33 <Lumindia> The power came back on, and this was accompanied by my speakers emitting a loud ear-piercing beeeeeeeeeeeep that I'm fairly certain they heard the next state over

19:37 * Starlight_Glimmer noms Lumindia's ears

19:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> No more ears, no more pain!

19:37 <Lumindia> I still have earholes

19:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> Nuu that's not how hat works

19:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm certain :3

19:44 <Lumindia> regardless, the speakers are dead, jim

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19:55 * Thelema5 returns, with the pepperoni steaming on the stove. Freaking took long enough to make

19:57 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 I might have to go At&t in 2020 :P

19:57 <Thelema5> Why?

19:57 <PinkieShy> Verizon shutting down their 1XRRT and 3G network side of things.. I might not get signal out here there is a chance of that.

19:58 * Thelema5 nods

19:58 <PinkieShy> My phone jumps all the time from 4G lte and 3g and 1xrrt..

19:58 <PinkieShy> highest I've seen is 2bar 4g lte.

19:59 <PinkieShy> I asked Verizon though does this mean Verizon is no longer a CDMA network after end of 2019..

19:59 <PinkieShy> They said they still will be.. But they'll be a 4g lte and 5g network.. and isn't 4g lte a product of GSM.

19:59 <PinkieShy> They'd get more customers if they are going GSM :P

20:00 * Thelema5 understands very little of this

20:00 <PinkieShy> Meaning more compatible phones.. Cause can't you just about take any unlocked phone to t-mobile or at&t :P

20:00 <PinkieShy> Verizon is different in a way

20:03 <Thelema5> Hmm

20:04 * PinkieShy licks Thelema5

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20:04 * Thelema5 tastes of pepperoni

20:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: PONIES The Anthology 7 Coming [ http://tinyurl.com/y9qq7xk3 ]

20:07 <Schism> Mnyoop.  Back from walk.  That was good.

20:08 <Thelema5> Glad to hear it

20:08 <Thelema5> My therapist keeps encouraging me to go for walks but it's hard to get outside

20:09 <Thelema5> Must be cathartic

20:10 <Schism> If nothing else, it's relaxing.

20:10 * Thelema5 nods

20:11 <Schism> Hum.  Not sure quite where I am, and definitely not sure where I'm going.

20:23 * Cepheid flops in.

20:23 <uni> good morning

20:23 <Thelema5> Hi there, uni!

20:23 <Thelema5> How have you been?

20:23 <uni> hello, Thelema5!

20:23 * ADragonDreaming nibbles on things.

20:23 <uni> I've been good, school has ended

20:23 <Schism> Cepheid: I show off my stuff on the catwalk.  https://twitter.com/bozzylumpkins/status/1055929915663704065

20:24 * PinkieShy hands Schism a slice of strawberry cheesecake

20:24 <Thelema5> For some reason I expect that to be a music video from Right Said Fred

20:25 <Schism> Thelema5: Well, yes.  I do my little turn on the catwalk.

20:25 <ADragonDreaming> I like how nobody, not even someone in the crowd, moves to grab said cat.

20:26 <uni> I'm wondering how it got there in the first place

20:26 <Schism> Clearly, it's meant to be there... hah.

20:27 <Cepheid> I saw that, Schism.

20:27 <Cepheid> And yeah, it's confusing as to why no one does anything about it.

20:27 <Schism> Well, it's not exactly interrupting the show.

20:27 <Cepheid> The crowd probably isn't allowed to reach onto the catwalk.

20:27 <Schism> It's just kinda, ya know.  There.

20:27 <Cepheid> And having someone run out to grab the cat would look bad.

20:27 <PinkieShy> My pc is lagging hardcore

20:27 <Cepheid> So they just let it roam until it left.

20:28 <PinkieShy> Like lagging so much right now.. Even typing this is about to make Hexchat out of all things crash.

20:28 <Schism> Myerp.  Reboot?

20:28 <Schism> Cepheid: Plus, you know, it's a /catwalk./

20:28 <Cepheid> Yes.

20:29 <PinkieShy> I see why now Schism..

20:29 <ADragonDreaming> hmm... size 100 for satellite. oookay.

20:29 <PinkieShy> VRchat was at 6GB of ram.

20:29 <Thelema5> That cat reminds me of this cat: https://youtu.be/FtJHJsXWFDs

20:29 <Cepheid> That'll do it, PinkieShy.

20:30 <ADragonDreaming> kiiiiiiiiill that program.

20:30 <PinkieShy> using 100% to the point that windows had to go into using HDD as memory or something.

20:30 <Schism> Swap files, yea.

20:30 <Schism> Heh, Cepheid.  Cats do that.

20:31 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, speaking of cats..

20:31 <PinkieShy> I got it closed now

20:31 <Cepheid> Spitfire's at my mother's bedroom door, and every now and then, a paw reaches under.

20:31 <PinkieShy> Even tho its closed.. its still some how using ram..

20:31 <PinkieShy> I used task manager to close it..

20:32 <PinkieShy> It disappeared from the task manager but click memory 95% now its still there..

20:32 <PinkieShy> in the background

20:32 <PinkieShy> They got a really bad game if it does that..

20:32 <Schism> In such cases, sometimes it takes a while for the process to actually close.

20:32 <Schism> Check under "Details" and hard-close it if necessary.

20:33 <Cepheid> PinkieShy:  It may require a SIGKILl, so end the process instead of the "Close Program" option.

20:33 <Cepheid> Schism, you ever see groundhogs in Kitchener?

20:33 <PinkieShy> Maybe the avatar world i was at making the window for the game smaller would fix that..

20:33 <Schism> Can't say I do, no.

20:33 <PinkieShy> Wouldn't a smaller window use less memory?

20:33 <PinkieShy> or depends?

20:34 <PinkieShy> Cause if you have a smaller screen the game inside the window gets smaller as well..

20:34 <Cepheid> 'Cause a friend of mine wasn't sure what an animal she saw in Toronto was.  It was a groundhog.

20:34 <PinkieShy> It can get so small playing is impossible :P

20:34 <Cepheid> PinkieShy:  Heavens no.

20:34 <ADragonDreaming> PinkieShy: size of window won't affect memory usage really.

20:35 <Cepheid> You're talking maybe 10-30 megabytes at most.

20:35 <Cepheid> And that's only in extreme cases.

20:35 <Cepheid> Typical cases are closer to 5-10.

20:36 <Schism> Of course, no program as minimal as VRChat should take up anywhere near that much even under the best of circumstances.

20:37 <Cepheid> It takes up that much because of all the custom avatars and worlds.

20:37 <PinkieShy> Smaller window worked.. Interesting enough.

20:37 <Cepheid> Likely keeps them in memory to make it quicker to transfer between multiple worlds rapidly.

20:37 <Cepheid> PinkieShy:  It'll improve performance, but not RAM usage.

20:37 <PinkieShy> Tried it and instead of 6GB it was at 4GB.. but everything in game was so small and flurry.

20:37 <PinkieShy> *blurry

20:37 <Cepheid> It'll balloon over time.

20:38 <Cepheid> It's not an instantaneous thing.

20:38 <Schism> I wouldn't be surprised if resizing the window causes it to adjust the cache.

20:38 <Schism> Or, nevermind, just reloading the client.

20:39 <Schism> Either way, I'd suggest closing and reopening it once every couple hours at most, rather than leaving it open.

20:39 <Cepheid> Reloading the client will clear all previously loaded RAM, and when the program is loaded up, it'll be using the minimal amount.  Start moving around, checking out new avatars and worlds, the RAM usage will go up.

20:39 <Cepheid> There's probably configuration settings that can reduce RAM usage.

20:41 <Schism> Hopefully, at least, but little I've seen regarding VRChat implies that.

20:41 <Cepheid> Yeah.

20:41 <Cepheid> I did a quick search, myself.  I'd have to download the client and examine the various files.

20:41 <Schism> What in the--

20:41 <Schism> It puts cache files in %appdata%.

20:43 <Schism> This, ah... is rather thoroughly in violation of common sense.

20:43 <Schism> Hum.  Getting shipped down south in an hourish.

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20:47 * ADragonDreaming nibbles on a satellite uplink

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20:52 <uni> bleeeeh internet

20:55 * Cepheid ships Schism to Abu Dhabi in a box with a bunch of holes in it.

20:56 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/uqRPwzm.gifv I heard police brutality was an issue in the US, but man.

20:57 <ADragonDreaming> hahaha

20:57 <Schism> That's GTA for ya.

20:57 <ADragonDreaming> okay, so this is a conundrum.

20:59 <Schism> Whatcha trying to solve?

20:59 <Schism> (Oh yes, and at least my craptop can run Opus Magnum.  So I'll have that to do.)

21:00 <Schism> Cepheid: Also, heh.  A six hour car ride.

21:00 <ADragonDreaming> to encrypt this file, I need to sum each value in the file with its corresponding value in the encryption key. however, if the sum would exceed 10000, I need to drop the 10000 and continue with the remainder. So 8888 + 3333 = 12221, so encrypted value would be 2221

21:00 <ADragonDreaming> but you can't store a 5 digit value in this game.

21:00 <ADragonDreaming> hmmm... I'm gonna need to use the swiz command, aren't I.

21:02 <ADragonDreaming> raaaaabble frotz the logic here is gonna be heard

21:02 <ADragonDreaming> *hard

21:02 <Schism> If either value exceeds 5,000, remove 5,000 and add one to a parity bit.  If parity bits = 0 or 2, accept.  If 1, add 5k to result.

21:03 <ADragonDreaming> hm.

21:03 * ADragonDreaming opens a new solution to hash that out in particular

21:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2782 [ http://tinyurl.com/yccthfx6 ]

21:06 <Schism> I mean, obviously that's not a perfect solution by any stretch of logic.

21:09 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/Sw3m9Tw.gifv

21:09 <ADragonDreaming> teef

21:11 <Schism> "Why does this bag feel so full?" I ask myself before remembering that I have like 10 Pepsis in the bottom of it.  (Well, five bottles.)

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21:20 <Lumindia> nice

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21:25 <Schism> And then I packed a couple sandwiches...

21:25 * Schism makes a mental checklist.

21:25 <Schism> Phone completely charged wif spare battery, check.  Vape charged, doublecheck.  Ah, little more music for phone, let's do that.

21:25 * Cepheid flops onto bed.

21:25 <Schism> Are you okay, Cephy?

21:26 <Cepheid> I dunno why, but I feel exhausted as hell today.

21:26 <Cepheid> Feel like I could sleep some more. x.x

21:26 <Schism> Yeah, you've been up and down...

21:26 * Lumindia patpats

21:26 <Lumindia> I was asleep for three hours while the power was out

21:27 <Cepheid> Well, arguably I did stay up until like, 12:30 AM last night.

21:28 <Schism> Ah, that'll do it.  To some extent, anyway.

21:28 * Schism turns off various things. A light here, a heat here.

21:29 * DashedRainbows yawns. seems all he does these days is sleep

21:29 <Cepheid> So I picked up Labyrinth of Refrain.  Just another dungeon crawler, from NISA.

21:29 <Cepheid> Though I just unlocked a feature in it that has caught my interest.

21:29 <Cepheid> The ability to break down walls on a given run.

21:30 <Schism> Mmm, shinesparking.

21:30 <Schism> I mean, uh.  That's rather helpful.

21:31 <Cepheid> Heh.

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21:32 <Cepheid> Basically, walls of a given colour on the map can be smashed down, and rooms behind them accessed.  This leads to hidden areas and rooms.

21:32 <Cepheid> Most can be spotted either by obviousness, or another feature that basically makes random encounters less random-like.

21:33 * Lumindia pats Starlight_Glimmer

21:33 <Cepheid> You get a radar that shows a 5-square diamond around your location on the map.  Any enemies inside that diamond are shown.  The game doesn't use random encounters, it uses Etrian Odyssey FOE-like entities roaming the map.

21:34 <ADragonDreaming> the encryption solution was to start from -1000

21:34 <ADragonDreaming> er, -10000

21:35 <ADragonDreaming> (which was translated as starting -9999 and then adding another -1 after the first math problem)

21:35 <Schism> That... oh.  Well.  That's probably more sensible.

21:35 * Schism oh wells. "Alright, I'm taking off. See you folks in a few hours."

21:35 <ADragonDreaming> peace!

21:35 <Cepheid> Take care.

21:36 <Cepheid> Be careful driving.

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21:37 * ADragonDreaming goes to hack a bank now.

21:37 <Cepheid> Heh, man you're just rushing through that game.

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21:38 <Cepheid> In fact, I don't think I've seen you go to sleep yet, which leads me to a question.

21:38 <Cepheid> Is anything wrong?

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21:45 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7cgd8WOkDE&feature=youtu.be

21:45 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

21:49 <ADragonDreaming> no, nothing is wrong.

21:49 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Revenant Bus - A Doom 2 Simulation Map

21:49 <ADragonDreaming> I do all-nighters every so often when presented with copious amounts of free time and something that will grab me

21:50 <ADragonDreaming> at this point, I'm staving off sleep right NOW based on sleeping at night instead of day, still.

21:51 <Cepheid> Ah.

21:51 <Cepheid> Fair enough.  Just making sure.

21:52 <Starlight_Glimmer> Lumindia: I'm glad we basically don't have power outages around here

21:52 <Starlight_Glimmer> I've experienced a total of 2 or 3 in my entire life

21:53 <ADragonDreaming> let's see... in this solution I was working on, I missed a critical requirement of ensuring that the debited account number shows up in the credit entries...

21:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> And both occasions I remember were only a couple of minutes

21:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> Maybe an hour at most

21:53 <Cepheid> Power outages happen rarely here, and they last either a few seconds or a few minutes.

21:54 <Cepheid> The longest would have been that northeastern US/Canada power outage.

21:54 <Cepheid> That lasted a few days

21:55 <Starlight_Glimmer> The recent one was maybe half a year ago

21:55 <Thelema5> I remember that.  What a pain in the butt

21:55 <Starlight_Glimmer> In the middle of the night

21:56 <Starlight_Glimmer> I only noticed because I just looked at my wireless phone and it said it lost connection to it's base station

21:57 * Thelema5 prepares chili and chips for dinner

21:57 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  Sorry I didn't get a chance to play any MH this week.  I thought I'd have a bit more free time, but my mother comes first, and she kept requesting my assistance every 15-30 minutes.

21:59 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/9rbsbg/baby_khajit/?st=jnrzmntd&sh=3e8e5dce

22:01 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/CatGifs/comments/9ncdfu/tennis_for_cats/?st=jnrzp0dw&sh=5cd8341a Heh, this one reminds me of Spitfire with his latest acquisition.  My sister bought these large balls for her dog, but we couldn't pack them both for my mother's trip, so one stayed behind.

22:01 <Cepheid> Lo and behold, I look at it, give it a small kick, and Spitfire bolts after it.

22:07 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/2ZSc74m.gifv Kittens attempting to mimic their parents are adorable.

22:07 <JonTheVGNerd> !seen Ali

22:07 <DerpyBot> JonTheVGNerd: The last time I saw Ali was 2018-10-24 10:03:27 UTC

22:08 * Thelema5 suddenly misses Ali

22:08 <JonTheVGNerd> Yeppers

22:08 <JonTheVGNerd> !seen The_Nostalgia_Mare

22:08 <DerpyBot> JonTheVGNerd: The last time I saw The_Nostalgia_Mare was 2018-10-06 07:06:00 UTC

22:09 <ADragonDreaming> Cepheid: no worries, I've got time tomorrow and monday, too

22:09 <Thelema5> JonTheVGNerd, were you Jonthebronynerd?

22:09 <ADragonDreaming> also, I have successfully redistributed bank wealth

22:09 <JonTheVGNerd> Thelema5: Aye

22:09 <Thelema5> hihi

22:10 <JonTheVGNerd> Heyyo

22:10 <Thelema5> How've you been?

22:10 <JonTheVGNerd> Been doing well

22:10 <Thelema5> Awesome!

22:10 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWNKAXAAFmY

22:10 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

22:10 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Mother Cat and Cute Kittens - Best Family Cats Comilation 2018

22:10 * JonTheVGNerd nodnods

22:11 <Cepheid> In other news I ordered new glasses.

22:11 <Cepheid> $629.

22:13 <ADragonDreaming> ...oof

22:14 <Cepheid> The prescription is so strong it, by default, requires specific kinds of lenses that are extremely expensive to make.  Otherwise I get lenses that are super incredibly thick.

22:15 <Cepheid> Fortunately, I get coverage through the school, so I can cut off about $400 of that price tag.

22:15 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, I'm in the same boat with my own glasses

22:15 <ADragonDreaming> insurance covers the majority of the cost.

22:16 <Cepheid> I'll be taking extra care with the new glasses.  Such that at night time, my current pair will be my reading glasses.

22:16 <Cepheid> They're scratched to hell and back, but they still sharpen my vision enough for reading.

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22:18 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv5I7a3GAZ8

22:18 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about "Kittens Time Lapse" 50 days in 5 minutes!!

22:25 <Cepheid> It's amazing how quickly kittens grow up.

22:29 <ADragonDreaming> yep

22:30 * ADragonDreaming headtilts at the hacker battles. "What I'm not getting is how to test yourself against your friend's solutions."

22:38 <Cepheid> I haven't figured it out either.

22:53 <ADragonDreaming> hmmm... this one is a pickle indeed.

22:54 * DashedRainbows licks all the pones

23:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #55 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycd6hssj ]

23:09 * Cepheid screams something about stranger danger in response to the licking.

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23:18 <ADragonDreaming> dataphones.

23:19 <ADragonDreaming> the horror, cepheid. the horror.

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23:32 <Twilight_Sparkle> I really need to replace that laptop battery

23:37 <Cepheid> Heh.

23:39 * Lumindia pats Twilight

23:39 <Lumindia> All the pats for ponies!

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23:44 <Twilight_Sparkle> hmm...

23:44 <Twilight_Sparkle> okay, let's hope it's saved in local on the laptop.

23:47 <Twilight_Sparkle> huzzah, it is

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