00:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: What Locations Should We Explore in Season 9? [ http://tinyurl.com/ybw7hflk ]
00:06 <Thelema5> I only read 50 pages or so, I find it hard to focus
00:07 <Thelema5> My it's on my nightstand and I read a little bit each night. Right now I'm learning about the history of cheese and dairy
00:07 <LibrarianofHope> cow juice left to coagulate
00:07 <LibrarianofHope> saved you some time owo
00:10 <Schism> But of course the trick is how you do so.
00:10 <LibrarianofHope> french magic
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00:11 <Schism> 90% of magic is just knowing how something is done, and convincing other people that it's done via supernatural processes. Cheese is an entirely natural series of actions helped along by a few small friends.
00:12 <Schism> And the bubbles caused by fermentation is what causes the holes in swiss cheese, for example. o3o
00:12 <LibrarianofHope> nuuu
00:12 <LibrarianofHope> swiss elfs
00:12 <LibrarianofHope> i checked
00:13 <LibrarianofHope> they owe me moeny
00:13 <Schism> That's from them paying the bacteria.
00:13 <Schism> Follow the money.
00:13 * LibrarianofHope follows the money
00:13 <LibrarianofHope> i got to a bank, what now?
00:15 <LibrarianofHope> instructions unclear, i stole the cheese
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00:20 <PinkieShy> Got some gel memory foam slippers :)
00:21 <PinkieShy> Its hard to walk with these.. But I'll get used to em XD
00:21 <PinkieShy> It feels graet to my feet though :)
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00:31 <Schism> Cepheid: Another Witch. Not sure how long I'll play her, but there she is.
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00:33 <PinkieShy> When i got up in the slippers i almost slipped lol
00:33 <Cepheid> What kind of build are you planning?
00:34 <PinkieShy> The memory foam on this thing is so thick.. I gotta get used to walking with them.. They are very warm.. But the gel is helping a bit :)
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00:35 <PinkieShy> Had sad news when i woek up today..
00:35 <PinkieShy> My great aunt passed away.
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00:40 <Cepheid> Right, headin' off to bed early tonight. Laters.
00:43 <Schism> And likewise I'm going to probably at least set my own head donw.
00:44 * Schism carefully and politely obliterates a slice of pizza.
00:45 * Schism coughs, "Down."
00:46 <DashedRainbows> Yay!
00:47 <DashedRainbows> Inside AAC waiting for Max Frost
00:50 * Schism puts all the pizza in the fridge. Except one slice.
00:50 * Schism hovers over one lonely slice of pizza, smiling with too many teeth. "Hello, lovely."
00:50 <Schism> You're mine now. All... mine...
00:50 * Schism chomp.
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00:52 <PinkieShy> So my brother told me something he is going to do when he has to update his license
00:52 <PinkieShy> He is going to sign up to be a donor.
00:53 * PinkieShy hugs Schism and licks DashedRainbows
00:53 <DashedRainbows> Yay
00:54 <Schism> I'm an organ donor as well. When my life finally fades away, I want someone else to have my organs.
00:54 <Schism> So bravo for your bro. o3o
01:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #52 [ http://tinyurl.com/ya5wwweu ]
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01:18 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, I'm so sorry for your loss!
01:18 <Thelema5> Were you very close?
01:19 <PinkieShy> No sadly.
01:19 <PinkieShy> But we saw he a year ago and since then her Daughter told us that she was having issues with Dementia couldn't remember anything hardly.
01:20 <PinkieShy> Like she could have lunch right now and 30 minutes to hour later.. She wouldn't be able to tell you what she had.
01:21 <Thelema5> Ouch, yeah... dementia is brutal. The last time I saw my grandmother pefore she passed she had no idea who I was
01:21 <Thelema5> *before
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01:50 <RazorSharpFang> "Words cannot convey how offended I aren't." - this is wrong, it's "am not" so... "am't" ?
01:51 <ADragonDreaming> contraction would be of "I" and "am"
01:52 <ADragonDreaming> so "I'm not"
01:52 <RazorSharpFang> "Words cannot convey how offend I'm not" also sounds weird. Maybe that's just because of the structure.
01:52 <ADragonDreaming> Yes.
01:52 <ADragonDreaming> "Words cannot convey how not offended I am."
01:54 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah that's better.
02:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1613 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9aazxvd ]
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02:49 <DashedRainbows> So much hype
02:49 <DashedRainbows> I spent way too much
02:55 <Thelema5> Did you have a good time?
02:58 <PinkieShy> I had a dream about DashedRainbows last night.
02:58 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up and licks PinkieShy
02:58 <PinkieShy> I dreamt I got good news from them. :3
03:00 * PinkieShy licks thelema5
03:00 <DashedRainbows> Thelema5: the headliner ain't out yet but it's been awesome
03:00 <DashedRainbows> Yay, PinkieShy
03:01 <DashedRainbows> I bought a bandana, poster and hoodie for me
03:01 <PinkieShy> Why'd i just read that as a banana poster..
03:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: UndreamedPanic & PegasYs - The One You Should Know [Synthwave] [ http://tinyurl.com/y999l7hj ]
03:02 <Thelema5> Concert hoodies are expensive
03:02 <Thelema5> Worth it if you're having fun though
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04:32 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1613 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9aazxvd ]
04:32 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: UndreamedPanic & PegasYs - The One You Should Know [Synthwave] [ http://tinyurl.com/y999l7hj ]
04:32 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #52 [ http://tinyurl.com/ya5wwweu ]
04:35 <Schism> "You, Princess of the Sun, are an obligate, obstinate, obtuse meddler, for all your hundreds of years. If I told you about one thing likely to happen in the future, you'd either seek to avert it or promote it, and based on your track record, your little efforts would have the exact opposite conclusion you desired."
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04:52 <PinkieShy> You know.. I began to realize.
04:52 <PinkieShy> The more that person that is a hater puts me up for kick on every world we run into each other or every time he kicks me..
04:53 <PinkieShy> Those kicks goes to moderation in VRChat.. Sooner or later staff will have to see that as harassment and a direct attack on me, and end up knocking his rank to user from trusted and maybe a ban.
04:53 <PinkieShy> So the joke is really on him.
04:54 * Ali flops over PinkieShy
04:55 <PinkieShy> Plus that awful threat he made towards me. If i had it recorded.. That guy would probably be banned forever at that level of the threat.
04:55 <PinkieShy> Hey Ali.
04:55 * Ali snugs.
04:56 <PinkieShy> How are you doing Ali.
04:58 * Ali ehs, she's here and that's about it.
05:11 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, just completely ignore online threats from stangers. They have NO power over you and only reveal insecurities of the poster.
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05:21 <DashedRainbows> Wow
05:22 <DashedRainbows> That was magical
05:22 * Thelema5 eat s a frozen soft-pretzel
05:22 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, good show?
05:23 <DashedRainbows> Yup
05:23 * Schism whips up a bit of honey dijon mustard, and offers it to Thelema5 for dipping.
05:26 <Thelema5> Thanksie
05:27 <Schism> You should definitely make some for that pretzel. o3o A regular soft pretzel with nothing but salt is nearly joyless.
05:28 <Thelema5> Turth
05:28 <Thelema5> *Thruth
05:28 <Schism> "All sensible people become Animagi, if they can. Thus, it's extremely rare." X3
05:28 <Thelema5> Grr... you know what I mean
05:29 <Schism> Thrush!
05:29 * Schism pats the Thelema5 on the nose. XD;
05:32 * Thelema5 blushes
05:41 <Thelema5> Oh crap, I have to go in to my home office in the morning, a 45 minute trip!
05:41 * Thelema5 goes to bed
05:48 * Changeling_Nightmares squishies
05:48 * Changeling_Nightmares purrs
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05:48 * Filly_Nightmares feeds Schism sour cream and onion potatoes!
05:49 * Schism adds some shredded cheddar cheese to Filly_Nightmares' potatoes, throws them into a small ramekin, and then bakes them at 425 until they form a crunchy crust on top!
05:49 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up and wigglewaggles happily!
05:51 * Schism also boops Filly_Nightmares wif a glass of mango juice!
05:51 * Filly_Nightmares nomfs and lick licks the mango juice!
06:10 <Schism> "What, in the name of all that is good and sane, did you put on your hooves?" "Abrasive mana coating. The equivalent of diamond sandpaper, made of fractal shields operating under a simple set of rules. It's easier to form and hold a tessellation... wait, have I not told you any of this?" "You have been holding back." "... I'll share the spell matrix."
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06:11 <Thelema5> I have to drive into my company's office tomorrow- I'll take some ativan to make that happen, but should i shower first? I', been 3 days
06:11 <Schism> Shower now.
06:11 <Schism> If nothing else, the hot water will relax you to make it easier to get to sleep.
06:11 <Thelema5> Naw, it's 1AM
06:12 <Schism> Shower now and change your sheets, Thelema5. They're ... I think the proper term is dank.
06:12 <Thelema5> Hmm.
06:12 <Thelema5> It has been a while...
06:12 <Schism> You might not consider it important, but your boss and coworkers will appreciate it.
06:13 <Thelema5> I'll get up early and do it
06:14 <DashedRainbows> Yo ponies
06:14 <Thelema5> Hey
06:14 <DashedRainbows> That was rad
06:14 <Thelema5> Good show?
06:15 <DashedRainbows> Yup
06:16 <PinkieShy> going to go play xbox :3 ttyl good night :)
06:16 <DashedRainbows> I thought you went to sleep
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06:16 <DashedRainbows> Night
06:16 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, me? Still up
06:16 <DashedRainbows> Ik
06:17 <DashedRainbows> * Thelema5 goes to bed
06:17 <DashedRainbows> I see
06:18 <DashedRainbows> You go to bed like I do
06:18 <Schism> "What the CRAP?!" "When you read as much as I have, you get a better grip on curiosity, invention, and systems." "You're making magical constructs that shouldn't be possible!" "Figure out how! You're smart too, answer the question you've posed!"
06:19 * Schism produces a remote avatar. How do you do that with a fraction of the energy which should be available to you?
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06:19 <Schism> Or rather, a fraction of the energy which should be required.
06:23 <Schism> Fun puzzle. A solid-form projection requires at least 1 thaum per second per cubic centimeter, enough to sustain its mass in active space, ramping up geometrically with distance from caster. An average changeling can use and project a maximum of 10 thaums per second, which works out to a stun bolt or two on a firing line.
06:24 <Schism> How, then, do you create a magical construct of roughly pony size within those constraints?
06:25 <Schism> More precisely, an avatar or second form of that nature.
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06:27 <DashedRainbows> How's the Thelema5?
06:28 <Thelema5> I should be alseep.
06:29 <Thelema5> I have to go in to my company in the morning
06:29 <Thelema5> That's a 45 minute drive
06:29 <Thelema5> Super hard
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06:31 <Thelema5> At my doctor's advice, i'll take some Ativan first
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06:32 <DashedRainbows> Huh
06:32 <DashedRainbows> Driving on drugs
06:33 <DashedRainbows> But anxious driving is probably worse
06:35 <Thelema5> I've done it before, haven't had any problems
06:35 <DashedRainbows> Why can't I get the good stuff?
06:35 <Thelema5> Registry?
06:36 <DashedRainbows> Not yet
06:36 <DashedRainbows> Hmm
06:36 <DashedRainbows> They might know
06:37 <DashedRainbows> My first therapist thought I was an alcoholic lol
06:37 <DashedRainbows> I just enjoy drinking
06:37 <Schism> "I've got half a mind to haul you in for every locked-room mystery we have on file." "That's fair. I don't exactly have an alibi that'd stand up in court." "Shut your face."
06:37 <DashedRainbows> But don't do it often, anymore
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06:40 <DashedRainbows> https://twitter.com/rhg135/status/1060420381763403777?s=19 man my alcohol tolerance is so low. I'd usually never say that lol
06:42 * DashedRainbows hugs Thelema5 and all the pones
06:43 * Thelema5 counterhugs
06:45 <Thelema5> Link is not loading for me for some reason, but I'll upvote nonetheless
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06:46 <DashedRainbows> "Yes, I am wearing one.
06:46 <DashedRainbows> Perfect way to end the day."
06:47 * DashedRainbows curls up to sleep
06:47 <DashedRainbows> Good night
06:50 * DashedRainbows sniffs Thelema5 before bed
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07:14 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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11:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1388 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7vo4o3u ]
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11:22 <Concerned_dad> Hello
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11:48 <Cepheid> Morning.
12:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: More Information on Kirin Update for Gameloft Game [ http://tinyurl.com/y89jptmb ]
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12:42 <Surreal_Nightmares> Nini!
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13:07 <Cepheid> Morning folks.
13:08 <DashedRainbows> Yo.
13:08 <DashedRainbows> I'm just awake awhile
13:09 <DashedRainbows> Sleep is hard
13:14 <Cepheid> Heh.
13:17 <DashedRainbows> Melatonin, nada, Ambien, nada
13:18 <DashedRainbows> Yay for 6h sleep!
13:18 <Cepheid> The biggest issue for me is my breathing, when it comes to sleep.
13:18 <Cepheid> As of late, I've been finding my lungs fill with a fluid rapidly when sleeping in my bedroom. Elsewhere, not so bad.
13:18 <Cepheid> Not sure what's causing it, I would like to assume air quality in the house, but there's no way for me to check.
13:23 <Cepheid> Like, I'm at school, and I can breathe well.
13:23 <Cepheid> If I were to go home, that'd all change.
13:23 * Cepheid starts having a coughing fit.
13:25 <Cepheid> And a classmate of mine just suggested an idea I had not considered.
13:25 <Cepheid> An air purifier.
13:27 <DashedRainbows> Now I'm off
13:27 <DashedRainbows> Cya
13:28 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHRuqkUe-vQ
13:28 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
13:28 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about You Will Know Our Names (Xenoblade Chronicles) - GaMetal
13:30 <Cepheid> I'm really feeling it! *Gets shot*
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13:33 <Finwe> Good afternoon, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
13:33 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM
13:33 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
13:33 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Track 01 - THUNDER FORCE IV『Lightning Strikes Again - Metal Squad』
13:33 <Cepheid> Morning, Finwe.
13:33 <Finwe> Mr Cepheid, Miss DashedRainbows.
13:33 * Finwe doffs his hat.
13:35 <Cepheid> How are you?
13:36 <Finwe> A bit in pain, I might have a broken rib.
13:36 <Finwe> If not, it's just a severe bruise.
13:38 <Finwe> This kind of injury is obviously almost impossible to treat, so the advice I got from the physician was to take analgesics if need be.
13:38 <Cepheid> ... The hell did you do?
13:41 <Finwe> Tried to make too tight a turn while bicycling downhill.
13:42 <Finwe> I landed on the left side of my chest and my left thigh.
13:47 <Cepheid> Oof.
13:48 <Cepheid> I would imagine a broken rib would be extremely painful, to be honest. Since you're not keeling over with death, I would assume it's just an incredibly bad bruise.
14:10 <Finwe> Depends on how broken it is.
14:12 <Finwe> If it's just fractured then there is no acute danger of further traumata, whereas if the bone is broken into separate pieces then there is the risk of the ends damaging lungs and arteries.
14:12 <Finwe> But that seems not to be the case with me.
14:12 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
14:43 <Cepheid> We're working with cameras today in robotics. o3o
14:44 <Finwe> o3o
14:44 <Finwe> But now, I have some singing to do.
14:44 * Finwe trots off.
14:48 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/9v79jk/this_cat_eating_food/?st=jo8pgrnp&sh=073cfe60
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16:47 <LibrarianofHope> owo
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17:06 <Cepheid> Best type of company for a vampire to run? A blood bank.
17:09 <ADragonHoarding> Hmm... depends on the record-keeping.
17:09 <ADragonHoarding> Unless they specifically are simply consuming the samples that are no longer good for transfusion and which would be disposed of anyway.
17:12 <Cepheid> Hard to say, but it technically would be the best way to avoid raising suspicion with missing people reports.
17:12 <Cepheid> Blood bag here and there goes missing, people are less likely to notice or complain.
17:14 <Cepheid> Could use a number of front companies or organizations as well to reduce suspicion further. Organizations that need blood samples for research, hospitals, etc.
17:15 <OctaveSymphony> Arent blood bags just plasma though?
17:15 <ADragonHoarding> No
17:16 <Cepheid> Nope. Though plasma bags are a thing.
17:16 <ADragonHoarding> blood transfusions in the modern era separate the blood into its various components for transfusion
17:16 <ADragonHoarding> so red blood cells, white blood cells, plasma, etc. are all separate bags and can be transfused individually.
17:16 <ADragonHoarding> generally speaking.
17:18 <Cepheid> Blood type is an important aspect. It also represents the greatest risk in recordkeeping for a vampire-run organization.
17:19 <Cepheid> The vampires want to make sure they siphon off from the more common types of blood. There are some types that would raise red flags more easily if they started disappearing.
17:31 <Cepheid> This passenger is testing my patience. They are singing loudly to the music they are listening to.
17:31 <Cepheid> And it isn't even good singing.
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17:37 <ADragonHoarding> Start singing back.
17:37 <ADragonHoarding> More loudly and more off-key.
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17:43 <Cepheid> Ironically that was the idea I had. But no courage to do it.
18:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: All the "Oh, Come On!" In The Last 8 seasons [ http://tinyurl.com/y7pl5gqn ]
18:06 <Starlight_Glimmer> Finwe: I've told you time and time again that bicycles are not designed for horse usage - silly filly
18:06 <Starlight_Glimmer> On a more serious note: I hope you're O.K. :(
18:07 <ADragonHoarding> !log
18:07 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
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18:09 <Cepheid> Oh for the love of- This is never going to end. Because a person uploaded videos of him killing women in RDR2, people are now calling for a ban on killing women in games.
18:11 <Cepheid> Obviously this is pretty ridiculous and likely won't gain traction, but seeing people justify the argument and some considering the arguments valid is... What.
18:12 <CocoPommel> It ends when u stop paying attention to it
18:12 <CocoPommel> When u say to yourself, this is stupid and not worth my time or energy
18:12 <CocoPommel> Then it ends
18:13 <Cepheid> Pretty much.
18:13 <Cepheid> It is just I still see it 'cause I follow developers and such on Twitter.
18:13 <CocoPommel> Cuz let's be honest, if you go looking for stupidity, you will always find it in abundance. Just stop looking.
18:13 <CocoPommel> Yeah
18:15 <Cepheid> So regardless of desire to see it, I will inevitably see the stupidity. Especially that which involves gaming.
18:17 <ADragonHoarding> If we call for a ban on killing women, we must call for a ban on killing men
18:17 <ADragonHoarding> If we call for it in video games, we must call for it in movies.
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18:20 <Cepheid> Hence the ridiculousness of the concept.
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18:55 <SunsetShimmer> But yes, calling for an end of gaming freedoms is quite the silly notion
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19:16 <ADragonDreaming> I feel as though we have been cursed with the phrase, "May you live in interesting times."
19:20 <Cepheid> Hmm?
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19:22 <ADragonDreaming> AG Jeff Sessions has resigned.
19:22 <Schism> I consider this to be fantastically good news.
19:23 <ADragonDreaming> I do not.
19:23 <ADragonDreaming> the Acting AG is Whitaker.
19:24 <Schism> Ah.
19:24 <RazorSharpFang> Hey everyone.
19:24 <RazorSharpFang> Did you hear the recent news in politics?
19:24 <RazorSharpFang> It's really political. :3
19:24 <ADragonDreaming> Also, remember who gets to nominate Sessions' replacement.
19:24 <ADragonDreaming> Yes, Razor, I know.
19:25 <ADragonDreaming> This is the bare minimum of "a thing has happened"
19:25 <ADragonDreaming> In this case, an important thing.
19:25 <ADragonDreaming> I do not intend to get into a huge discussion of it.
19:25 <ADragonDreaming> So, chill.
19:26 <RazorSharpFang> Ah, I was thinking about the other thing.
19:27 <ADragonDreaming> Hmm... is it just me, or does the EXA UI look kinda similar to the TIS-100 blocks
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19:32 <LibrarianofHope> terminator?
19:32 <LibrarianofHope> he got back?
19:32 * Cepheid blahs.
19:32 <ADragonDreaming> nah, zachtronics game.
19:32 <Schism> Adra: It is kinda similar in that way, or to the various circuits in Shenzhen I/O.
19:32 <LibrarianofHope> wut that
19:33 <ADragonDreaming> TIS-100
19:33 <Schism> This leads me to divide Zachlikes into two types - those similar to Spacechem, such as Opus Magnum and the Constructor of the People, and those similar to TIS-100.
19:33 <ADragonDreaming> It's the name of the game.
19:33 <LibrarianofHope> did i lose?
19:33 <ADragonDreaming> It's interesting that they are called Zachlikes when so far they have all been made by Zach.
19:33 <Schism> Or, in other words, 'Abstract' Zachlikes, and 'Functional' Zachlikes.
19:34 <ADragonDreaming> BTW I "beat" Opus Magnum.
19:34 <Schism> Nice. I still need to chew through the vast majority of it.
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19:34 <ADragonDreaming> Once I got past a certain stag I no longer had metrics to try and beat.
19:34 <ADragonDreaming> *stage
19:34 <ADragonDreaming> so from there it was just "figure out the next puzzle!"
19:35 * Cepheid is blah-ing because the whole benefits thing through TAship is annoying to get done.
19:36 <Schism> Adra: Of course, one can simply take that through the whole game, just focusing on solving the puzzles, and then go back and adjust your solutions with the tricks you've learned.
19:38 <ADragonDreaming> Aye.
19:42 * ADragonDreaming eyes 84 cycle count everyone else got on puzzle 2
19:42 <ADragonDreaming> what did I do wrong
19:44 <LibrarianofHope> took to long
19:44 <Schism> Which puzzle is that again?
19:44 <ADragonDreaming> Signal amplifier
19:44 <ADragonDreaming> literally the second one
19:44 <Schism> Oh, TIS-100?
19:44 <ADragonDreaming> yes
19:44 <DashedRainbows> Hai LibrarianofHope
19:44 <LibrarianofHope> hoi
19:45 <ADragonDreaming> I'm clearly missing some twist of logic.
19:45 <Schism> HCF is the best instruction, by the way.
19:45 <ADragonDreaming> HCF?
19:45 <Schism> Give it a try!
19:45 <ADragonDreaming> Ah.
19:45 <ADragonDreaming> any road, lunch is ove
19:45 <ADragonDreaming> *over
19:47 <Schism> Adra: Ah, for that 84 count, you have two processes running parallel leading to the output.
19:47 <Cepheid> That was more trouble than it was worth.
19:48 <Cepheid> Well, not really.
19:48 <Cepheid> Cutting out 300 dollars from my glasses is worth it.
19:49 <Cepheid> Especially as they were a staggering $629.
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19:56 <LibrarianofHope> why?
19:57 <LibrarianofHope> i barely spend 200 on mine
19:57 <ADragonHoarding> depends on the prescription.
19:57 <Cepheid> Prescription type.
19:57 <Cepheid> And strength.
19:57 <Cepheid> I need high-index lenses, which are expensive.
19:57 <LibrarianofHope> i could do blind jokes, but i dont see the point
19:57 <LibrarianofHope> badumtss
19:58 <ADragonHoarding> mine in general cost over $500, due to the necessary strength of the lenses, which requires special materials in order to achieve the correct results without being stupidly thick and fragile.
19:58 <Cepheid> ^
19:59 <LibrarianofHope> what do yoy¡u see without them?
19:59 <Cepheid> My prescription is like, -5 in one eye, -5.5 in the other.
19:59 <Cepheid> Let me see if I can find an approximate image.
19:59 <Cepheid> Or make one.
19:59 <ADragonHoarding> a big blurry world.
19:59 <LibrarianofHope> me too, but i seem to getting better
20:04 <Cepheid> Honestly, LibrarianofHope?
20:04 <Cepheid> Go to google images, type in "really blurry pictures"
20:04 <Cepheid> Or "extremely blurry pictures"
20:04 <Cepheid> That's what I see at about 1 foot away.
20:04 <LibrarianofHope> me too
20:04 <LibrarianofHope> we blind bois
20:05 <Cepheid> I can make out shapes and colours, but I can't see any of the details.
20:05 <ADragonHoarding> Same
20:11 <Cepheid> Path of Exile, I want to disable those announcements. I don't need to see "GiveMeThatRank*YAY* is the first character to solo delve to [NUMBER_HERE] depth!" every 30 seconds.
20:12 * Schism reheats this leftover pizza.
20:12 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Reminder: Discord Day Tomorrow [ http://tinyurl.com/yaapf6af ]
20:13 <LibrarianofHope> i get so much grief over food
20:13 <LibrarianofHope> bleh
20:16 <Cepheid> Schism: Apparently Path of Exile has a player-scaling system in place, now.
20:17 <Cepheid> So if I join you on adventures, and I'm of a higher level, it'll scale my level down.
20:17 <ADragonHoarding> interesting
20:17 <ADragonHoarding> Star Trek Online goes the other direction
20:18 <ADragonHoarding> Lower level players who join in a higher level player team get scaled up instead
20:21 <Cepheid> I wonder if it'd be viable to create an ARPG, MMO or whatever that didn't have a leveling mechanic. That is, your stats are determined by the equipment you wear.
20:22 <Schism> MMO-wise, that's somewhat relevant with Elder Scrolls Online. There's still leveling, but that simply determines the equipment you can wear.
20:23 <Cepheid> And most MMOs when you hit maximum level.
20:23 <Cepheid> I mean, FF14..
20:23 <Cepheid> You hit what, level 70, but there's dungeons that exceed that maximum limit.
20:23 <Schism> Yeah, iLvl is up to 400 now too.
20:23 <Cepheid> The success in them is based on your equipment level.
20:24 <ADragonHoarding> Cepheid: Monster Hunter.
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20:24 <ADragonHoarding> I think it's already been done.
20:24 <Cepheid> That's true, yes.
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20:24 <Cepheid> Monster Hunter is an example of it.
20:25 <Cepheid> So yes, the idea would work.
20:34 <LibrarianofHope> but its very limited
20:34 <LibrarianofHope> besides a hunt/scavenge enviroment, how can you work it in?
20:35 <LibrarianofHope> plot wise
20:38 <ADragonHoarding> Monster Hunter does it by gating stronger equipment behind beating the stronger monsters, and your ability to even go on those hunts is gated behind successful hunts of the weaker monsters.
20:39 <ADragonHoarding> More generally there is also the concept of the Beef Gate, which is an area with challenges or a monster or what have you that is simply too strong to beat until you yourself reach a certain strength level.
20:39 <ADragonHoarding> behind this Gate is an area scaled for someone who can overcome that gate.
20:40 <ADragonHoarding> Sequence breaking tactics on speedruns may include methods to get through a Beef Gate much earlier than you are supposed to
20:41 <ADragonHoarding> If equipment is the method of strength gain, then its possible to simply restrict the ability to get or create the equipment based on where in the story or game or etc. you are
20:41 <ADragonHoarding> and each new transition is scaled to require a certain strength in your gear
20:42 <ADragonHoarding> You can hard-code gates to requiring the creation of specific types of gear, or you can simply do it stats-based, and if a player beats their head on the wall without upgrading in order to handle the wall, well... that's their fault.
20:43 <ADragonHoarding> for the gear creation, hunt/scavenge works well. You can also do it via trade.
20:43 <ADragonHoarding> job rewards.
20:43 <ADragonHoarding> purchase directly with wages earned.
20:43 <ADragonHoarding> etc.
20:44 <ADragonHoarding> CrossCode lets you purchase standard gear directly, but you can also get trade items, and then trade for more interesting gear if you have the appropriate trade goods
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20:46 <LibrarianofHope> i like the challenge, but i still think it would be limited to maybe 10 scenerarios before repeating
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20:47 <Schism> Adra: "Overall responsible for the most novice explorer deaths." --the Monstrous Codex points out the FOE known as the Great Lynx.
20:48 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:48 <Cepheid> But yes, trading up, crafting, those are all gating methods. And a gating method *WOULD* be required in an MMO context.
20:48 <Cepheid> Since otherwise you have players giving newbie players level-600 gear.
20:48 <LibrarianofHope> write in time
20:49 <LibrarianofHope> see ya in an hourish
20:49 <RazorSharpFang> Rather "giving" it when a certain amount of cryptocurrency appears in a certain account
20:49 <Cepheid> That too.
20:49 <Cepheid> But in general I expect without gating, twinking would be a major problem.
20:53 <Cepheid> In any case, if I ever design an MMO, the gating is the least of my concerns.
20:53 <Cepheid> No, the biggest concern is how to handle the problem of endgame.
20:54 <Cepheid> Current endgame setups basically encourage extremely specific equipment and skill setups.
20:55 <Cepheid> It isn't enough to know the battles. You have to have explicitly *THIS* set of gear in order to succeed.
20:55 <Cepheid> If you don't have it, you're not invited.
20:57 <Cepheid> And oftentimes, these sets of gear require doing dungeons that no one else is doing anymore, so it presents a problem.
20:58 <Cepheid> What I want to do, is find a way to discourage the practice of forcing specific gear sets on players, plus, ye know, the whole "You need to dedicate your life to this!" mindset of raiding.
20:58 <Cepheid> FF14 makes a good effort at it, to a degree.
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21:03 <Schism> True, though the highest-end raid gear is... well. Usually if you're wearing a fully melded piece of iLvl 400 gear, you're using a very specific set of materia for a very specific set of stats.
21:04 <Cepheid> But as far as I know, none of the raids require it, except maybe savage/extreme instances.
21:04 <Cepheid> And even then, it might be overkill.
21:05 <Schism> Yeah.
21:05 <Cepheid> FF14 solves one of the problems, gearing up, by giving players multiple ways to achieve the minimum gear level required for the most recent major update or expansion.
21:05 <Schism> Indeed, be it by doing the 24-man raids, joining hunts, or the like.
21:05 <Schism> Or crafting, of course.
21:05 <Cepheid> They also work to alleviate it by doing the daily random raid stuff.
21:05 <Cepheid> And the Tales.
21:06 <Schism> Yuppers.
21:06 <Cepheid> Might take a while, but you can still get a group together for the Coils through matchup 'cause of stuff that requires it.
21:08 <Cepheid> I think a large part of the problem is psychological too. People want useful rewards out of what they do. They want the *MOST* rewards as well.
21:08 <Cepheid> So if a run isn't going well, people start to drop out because they aren't going to get the full rewards.
21:09 <Cepheid> It also makes older raids pointless, because the newer raids have much stronger gear to acquire. So why bother?
21:09 <Cepheid> There... *IS* a solution for that particular problem, it's just I've only ever seen one MMO implement it.
21:09 <Schism> Eh. The older raids are still fun in and of themselves, and the old phrase is that 'Glamours are the endgame'.
21:09 <Schism> Heh, City of Heroes?
21:09 <ADragonHoarding> Fashion Souls is the true Souls
21:10 <Cepheid> Essentially, as the game progresses, start adding upstatted tiers of older dungeons.
21:10 <Cepheid> Rift did this.
21:10 <Schism> Definitely a plausible idea. There are, of course, the Savage raids in FFXIV.
21:11 <Cepheid> Basically, as they expanded upon the game with new dungeons and raids, they would add harder and harder tiers of older dungeons. Not in the sense of FF14's hardmode dungeons, though.
21:11 <Cepheid> Those are effectively new dungeons altogether. Rift utilized the existing dungeons and added new mechanics, monster groups and the like while upstatting the bosses and monsters.
21:11 <Cepheid> In some cases, even extended the original dungeons.
21:11 <Schism> Ahh.
21:12 <Cepheid> There was this one dungeon, it ended at a certain point. It was in a massive graveyard. But if you did the higher tier version, you'd go a little bit further, into a crypt of a major hero in the game.
21:12 <Cepheid> You'd then face off against a raid-level mechanic boss.
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21:12 <Cepheid> The spikes... THE SPIKES. I still remember them... And the buzzsaws.
21:13 <Cepheid> Starts off as a typical tank-and-spank boss. Then he goes into a whirlwind attack and starts chasing after the tank and dishing out tons of damage in the process to said tank.
21:13 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, the walls and floors start spewing out spears in various patterns.
21:14 <Cepheid> And slowly killing the party off as they rush about to find the safe spots.
21:14 <Cepheid> Then there was that one mountain dungeon. Normal version was nothing fancy. Hard version? First boss you encounter has a total-party-wipe mechanic.
21:15 <Schism> DPS check, or something different?
21:15 <Cepheid> More just tactics.
21:15 <Cepheid> When he's in whirl-wind, the tank would run in a figure eight around these two pillars in the room. The pillars would slow the pathing of the boss just enough to keep him away.
21:16 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, the rest of the party has to run around and stay off the spiky floors and walls.
21:16 <Cepheid> Eventually it stops, and then it's back to conventional fighting.
21:16 <Cepheid> As for the TPW battle..
21:16 <Cepheid> No, not a DPS check.
21:16 <Cepheid> Just straight-up he kills the whole party if they aren't in the right place at the right time.
21:17 <Cepheid> Think akin to the ghost dragon fight in FF14. I forget it's name.
21:17 <Cepheid> You see buildup to the attack, and then have to position yourself in a specific spot to avoid the attack.
21:17 <ADragonHoarding> amma Fai-ren Maeye Lay'zher?
21:18 <Cepheid> There was also that Bad-Future town dungeon. Normal run was pretty normal.
21:18 <Cepheid> Hard run, also pretty normal. Nothing fancy up until you kill the final boss.
21:18 <Cepheid> Then you're faced with a freakin' dragon god that's trying to burn your entire party to death. You have to run back to the entrance, with a whole bunch of spawns in your way.
21:19 <Cepheid> So yeah, not quite to the level of what you see in FF14, with it's various dungeons redesigned for hard mode..
21:19 <Cepheid> But still different enough to make things interesting.
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21:20 <Cepheid> ADragonHoarding: It took me 3 minutes to figure out what you just said.
21:20 <ADragonHoarding> Then I was sufficiently obfuscatory.
21:20 <Cepheid> I actually can't recall what the attack was.
21:20 <Cepheid> Just that you had to disrupt line of sight with the boss.
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21:36 <Cepheid> Little early to be taking one of my pills, but I need to. Feeling extremely on edge, and it's gettin' worse.
21:37 <Cepheid> Also, Schism, in D3, I found Leoric's football ring.
21:38 <Cepheid> Waiting on that pet mini-Skeleton King.
21:50 * Sleeping_Nightmares chews on Cepheid
21:59 * Cepheid sighs.
21:59 <Cepheid> My mother apparently got up without her boot and started to make her way towards the stairs to check up on me, because she heard me close the garage door and thought it was me falling over.
22:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2794 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8t39cl9 ]
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22:05 <PinkieShy> Hey :)
22:06 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/b4hfbYu.gifv Witchcraft!
22:08 <Schism> Non-Newtonian fluids are fun.
22:09 <Cepheid> Yep.
22:09 <LibrarianofHope> wut thats
22:09 <Cepheid> Non-newtonian fluid.
22:09 <Cepheid> Something between a solid and a fluid.
22:09 <LibrarianofHope> ohh
22:09 <Cepheid> Manipulate it, it feels solid. Let it rest, looks fluid.
22:09 <Cepheid> Has some interesting properties.
22:09 <PinkieShy> Is that like that thing i saw online of the editable water bubbles..
22:10 <Cepheid> Like, for example, you can run across a pool of the stuff.
22:10 <Schism> The most well-known here is a mixture of cornstarch and water.
22:10 <Cepheid> But if you stop running and stop moving altogether?
22:10 <Cepheid> You sink into it.
22:13 <Schism> Also interesting: the roundest object in the world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMByI4s-D-Y
22:14 <PinkieShy> Is it something like this? http://www.skippingrockslab.com/ooho!.html
22:14 <PinkieShy> It looks like plastic the water is in but its editable like safe to eat..
22:14 * Cepheid measures the item, and promptly starts to go insane because it's actually that orb that has a perfect curvature that the SCP has in storage.
22:14 <Cepheid> Probably something akin to a gel capsule, PinkieShy.
22:16 <PinkieShy> Steam is so derpy :/
22:16 <Schism> Silly Cepheid. You can't have a mathematically perfect sphere!
22:17 * Schism develops a twitch.
22:17 <PinkieShy> Just turned on the PC.. It was checking for updates but it waits for me to close a game i opened to tell me there is an update..
22:17 <Cepheid> That's pretty typical of Steam.
22:20 <Cepheid> I presume updates are pushed out regularly every few hours.
22:22 <PinkieShy> Yea but ideally if there was an update.. It should have installed when it was checking before letting me start the game..
22:22 <PinkieShy> steam itself.
22:23 <Cepheid> Depends on when the client checks, or gets notified of the update.
22:23 <Cepheid> After checking initially, and while downloading/installing the update, a new update could have been pushed out.
22:24 <Cepheid> The software checks at intervals, or waits for notification. Not sure which. So it's entirely possible for an update to be pushed when you're in the process of updating.
22:24 <Cepheid> 115 bugs in the code, 115 bugs, fix one now, build it again, 185 bugs in the code.
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22:28 <ADragonHoarding> 185 bugs in the code, 185 bugs, fix one now, patch it around, 242 bugs in the code
22:30 <RazorSharpFang> To be fair, you can't tell how many (or if there is any) bugs in a complex chunk of code
22:31 <Cepheid> And in reality, this only applies to large, complex projects.
22:31 <Cepheid> Small projects, a few files at most, are usually exempt from the problem. Or, if not exempt, it isn't felt as keenly.
22:34 <RazorSharpFang> At some point, a difference in scale IS a difference in kind
22:44 <Cepheid> Can't say I am familiar with that phrase/saying.
22:45 <ADragonHoarding> the smaller the project, the easier it is to find bugs...
22:45 <RazorSharpFang> A difference in scale might be one more baddie in the room of a game
22:45 <ADragonHoarding> if only because there are fewer lines to debug.
22:45 <RazorSharpFang> a difference in kind would be ranged units instead of mele units
22:52 <Cepheid> Mmm.
22:53 <RazorSharpFang> So, differences of kind might be considered to be uncomparable (see apples and oranges) whereas differences in scale are.
22:54 <RazorSharpFang> But if you keep adding units to the room, eventually there's not enough room to walk around. So this difference of scale HAS BECOME a difference in kind.
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23:18 <Schism> RSF: Did you know that world-renowned writer Stephen King was once hit by a car? Just something to consider.
23:21 <Cepheid> Man, I remember that thing being harder.
23:21 <Cepheid> Vaal Oversoul. It's attacks barely phased me.
23:21 <Cepheid> I remember that thing hitting you and I like a truck with it's LASOR BEEEEAAAM!
23:25 <Cepheid> I guess "Sturdy Build" is going well, then.
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23:37 <Schism> Cepheid: A baseball bat which makes things it hits explode. Surely this could never result in any testing disasters. http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2398
23:38 <Schism> "Notably, our control chicken was also killed when we hit it with a non-anomalous baseball bat."
23:39 <Cepheid> Heh.
23:39 <Cepheid> That one is a good one, yes.
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23:44 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
23:44 <Schism> The rainbow goat remains awesome in the best ways, too.
23:45 * Schism waves to Thelema5, and offers some eggplant curry pizza with extra chopped tomatoes.
23:45 <Thelema5> Thanksie! My dinner is cooking as we speak
23:45 <Thelema5> It's nice of you to offer, though!
23:49 * Thelema5 's hooves hurt
23:50 <Thelema5> I had to go in the the shop for work today to pull product and take photos... long day, I have't worked on my feet in years
23:51 <Cepheid> Yeah, you think because you walk around a lot that you're used to it, but then when it comes time to do actual work..
23:51 <Cepheid> Standing on your feet for 8 hours a day with minimal breaks is hard on the body and feet.
23:55 <Thelema5> Yeah, I used to to it all the time, but I've had nothing but desk jobs for the past7-8 years
23:55 <Cepheid> Anyhow, it's a little early again, but I'ma head off. Do the same routine I did last night. Take my pill, lay in bed, play some Diablo 3 'til I pass out or my right arm goes numb.
23:55 <Thelema5> Good luck, and good night!
23:55 <Cepheid> ... I don't know why that last one happens. It's what I suspect carpal tunnel is supposed to feel like. A weird numbness all up my arm, my hand, and fingers.
23:57 <Thelema5> Does sound like carpal tunnel; I have cubital tunnel which is the same but with a different nerve affected, one which serves the middle finger, ring finger, and pinkie
23:57 * Thelema5 goes to eat
23:57 <Cepheid> In this case it's the entire lower right arm and hand. I think I'm pinching a nerve in the elbow when I rest in bed holding my Switch up. Of all the positions to cause carpal-like symptoms, it has to be the one that's rare for me.
23:58 <Cepheid> Anyways. Laters.
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