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03:21 * Thelema5 tastes like pizza
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03:23 <Schism> Getting into a comedic faux shouting match with Chris Kluwe is fun.
03:23 * DashedRainbows relicks Thelema5
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03:25 * Schism takes a sip of beer, then frowns, and reconsiders it. "Muskoka's Detour is interesting. It's not an IPA - similar in some ways, but not entirely. Hoppy, but not overly so."
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03:27 <Thelema5> More like a copper IPA?
03:27 * Thelema5 hugs DashedRainbows
03:27 <DashedRainbows> can't drink alcohol anymore
03:27 <Thelema5> Not at all, ever?
03:27 <DashedRainbows> nope
03:27 <Thelema5> Dang
03:28 <DashedRainbows> well maybe
03:28 <Thelema5> Well on the upside you have less reason to drink.
03:28 <DashedRainbows> I need to ask but I doubt it
03:28 <DashedRainbows> it makes me sick anyway
03:30 <DashedRainbows> how's the Thelema5?
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03:31 <DashedRainbows> I have opioids anyway so meh
03:31 <Thelema5> Meh, pretty good I guess. My psychologist has dropped me down to one session every 3 weeks, so that's progress
03:31 <DashedRainbows> too bad it's just tylenol 3
03:33 <DashedRainbows> codeine isn't very strong
03:34 <Schism> DashedRainbows, here, have a kitty. https://twitter.com/sarugekijo_/status/1080743264699858944
03:34 <DashedRainbows> kitty!
03:36 <Thelema5> Raor
03:36 <Thelema5> Kitteh
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03:37 <DashedRainbows> I've been eh
03:37 <DashedRainbows> had trouble breathing earlier
03:39 <Thelema5> Oh no!
03:39 <Thelema5> Any idea why?
03:39 <DashedRainbows> needed dialysis now I feel ok
03:40 <DashedRainbows> hopefully never again
03:41 <DashedRainbows> so many tremors now
03:42 * Ali hugs DashedRainbows so much
03:42 * DashedRainbows licks Ali
03:42 <Thelema5> Yikes
03:45 * Ali squeaks at DashedRainbows
03:45 * DashedRainbows hugs the squeakycorn
03:49 * DashedRainbows also licks PinkieShy
03:49 <Thelema5> Hmm, I hope that they don't cut off my lorazepam because I'm doing better
03:49 <PinkieShy> Hey Thelema5
03:49 <Thelema5> Hey!
03:50 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 I had the worse news from my brother today about his wife's mom.
03:50 <Thelema5> I read about that, I'm so sorry. How is she doing?
03:50 <DashedRainbows> heh, I can take benzos now
03:50 <PinkieShy> Haven't heard anymore.
03:51 <DashedRainbows> still lyrica > benzos for non short term
03:52 * DashedRainbows hugs PinkieShy
03:53 <PinkieShy> I'm worried about me a little rubbing my eyes..
03:53 <PinkieShy> Scared it might cause keratoconus since I've been rubbing them so much.. But the worry is probably not relevant..
03:54 <DashedRainbows> stop going online!
03:54 <PinkieShy> I'm going to make eye dr appointment and stop pushing it off.. this itchingness might mean.. I need to just go.
03:55 <DashedRainbows> smart
03:56 <DashedRainbows> last week I realized that the convention I had waited over a year for I can't go to
03:56 <PinkieShy> the most I've been rubbing my eyes a day is 4 times..
03:56 <DashedRainbows> probably
03:56 <PinkieShy> Hopefully that hasn't did any damage..
03:57 <DashedRainbows> sadly I bought my badge back in nov
04:00 <PinkieShy> Plus the dry eyelids are back..
04:00 <PinkieShy> I bet the Dr would find out what the heck is up with that in a heartbeat..
04:01 <PinkieShy> I have a few choices in doctors that accept medicaid here..
04:01 <DashedRainbows> you overestimate them
04:01 <PinkieShy> Walmart vision center and welp.. Vault eye care.
04:01 <DashedRainbows> lol
04:01 <PinkieShy> Vault is in a huge nice office :3
04:01 <PinkieShy> oh DashedRainbows I saw a eye dr with a funny name before.
04:02 <PinkieShy> The name of the location was "Wood eye care"
04:02 <Thelema5> Heh
04:03 <DashedRainbows> sorry, had to take my buttload of pills
04:03 * PinkieShy hands Thelema5 a plate of steamed carrots and spiral ham.
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04:05 <PinkieShy> I need to study on how air fryers work.. I wanna get one so i can have fries or tater tots at home with my dinner here and there..
04:05 <Ali> Air fryers are a bit of a joke dear
04:05 <DashedRainbows> ^
04:06 <PinkieShy> Ali, so if i want a fryer.. Get one of the basic ones with a basket and a place that uses say vegatable, peanut or whatever oil?
04:06 <Ali> That's about it. I don't have too much experience with fryers dear
04:06 <PinkieShy> Okie.
04:08 <Thelema5> Thanksie, PinkieShy
04:08 * Thelema5 passes on the ham, though
04:08 * Thelema5 noms carrots!
04:09 <DashedRainbows> hmm
04:09 <Thelema5> I've made deep fried beer-battered jalapeno buttons before. Served up with a horseradish-dill dipping sauce
04:09 <Thelema5> It was yum
04:10 <DashedRainbows> I bet
04:10 <Schism> Yass. One of these times I should make up some fried zucchini again.
04:11 <Thelema5> Mmmm
04:11 <Schism> Or some eggplant parmigiana.
04:11 <Schism> ... well. Could always make up eggplant, spinach, chicken and zucchini parmigiana.
04:12 <Thelema5> Fancy
04:12 <Thelema5> XD
04:12 <Schism> I dunno, not really? XD
04:12 <Schism> A layered casserole like that would work particularly well and eggplant is cheap if you get it at the right time.
04:13 <Thelema5> True!
04:14 <DashedRainbows> meh
04:17 <Schism> Heck, could probably throw in some lasagna noodles.
04:18 <Thelema5> Certainly couldn't hurt!
04:18 <DashedRainbows> more meh
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04:21 <Thelema5> I stopped a an unfamiliar grocery store tonight that had a super large "international" foods section, like two whole aisles- everything from Turkish to Latvian, korean to Equadorian. I'm hype because I love trying new things
04:21 <DashedRainbows> cool
04:22 <DashedRainbows> except if it's meat apparently
04:22 <Thelema5> I didn't stop eating meat because I didn't like how it tastes :P
04:23 <DashedRainbows> does it matter why :P
04:23 <Thelema5> This was mostly sauces, condiments, noodles, unusual canned veggies, etc
04:23 <DashedRainbows> huh
04:24 <Thelema5> There was no refridgerated section
04:24 <DashedRainbows> just saying
04:27 * Thelema5 shrugs
04:27 * DashedRainbows shrugs too
04:29 * DashedRainbows licks Thelema5 like a lollipop
04:29 <Thelema5> Oh sweet, a somewhat nearby theater is screening Let Me Eat Your Pancreas
04:29 <DashedRainbows> two weeks no pizza
04:29 <DashedRainbows> the horror
04:34 <Thelema5> Pizza is of the yum. I treated myself to some tonight. Not at my favorite place, though, just from a typical pizza take out place
04:34 <Thelema5> My favorite pizza is from a
04:35 <Ali> little ceaser *shot repeatedly*
04:35 <Thelema5> nah, this place https://www.laflorentinamenu.com/index.html
04:35 <Thelema5> Best pizza outside of NYC
04:36 <Thelema5> In my opinion
04:37 <Thelema5> Cooked in a wood fired brick oven which imparts the most delightful slight smokiness while searing the crust to thin perfection
04:37 <Schism> There was a nice pizza parlor downtown which I felt happy to visit now and again. My brother worked there. And then he quit, because the management decided that a good way to cut costs was to let pre-prepared dairy sauces sit in the cooler for a week.
04:38 <Thelema5> Blech
04:38 <Schism> Yeah.
04:38 <Schism> Pity, too. They did some good pies, but nope.
04:38 <Thelema5> Someone call Gordon Ramsey
04:42 * DashedRainbows sits on Thelema5
04:43 * Thelema5 oophs
04:43 * DashedRainbows frowns, giddy up
04:44 * Thelema5 tries weakly.
04:44 <DashedRainbows> yay! pony ride
04:45 <DashedRainbows> tho the pony is weak
04:48 <Thelema5> Still recovering from a cold, haven't slept well
04:48 <DashedRainbows> ah
04:52 <DashedRainbows> have some hay instead
04:53 <Thelema5> Thanksie
04:54 * DashedRainbows horses
04:55 <Thelema5> I'm watching the Cornetto trilogy again... there is simply nothing to dislike about any of them
04:56 <Thelema5> Every minute is gold
04:57 * DashedRainbows ponies instead
05:00 <Thelema5> Like this scene, it's practically a ballet
05:00 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/W4tVH7BPb-Q
05:00 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
05:00 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Shaun of the Dead: Don't Stop Me Now
05:00 <Thelema5> Caution, mild language and cartoon-style violence
05:00 <Thelema5> Impeccable timing
05:02 <Thelema5> Gets better and better every moment
05:03 <Schism> Hmmmm.
05:05 <Thelema5> Well they make me happy.
05:05 <Thelema5> XD
05:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1480 [ http://tinyurl.com/yc7x3wsf ]
05:08 <DashedRainbows> My little horsey o/`
05:08 <Thelema5> Oh gosh... M. Night Shyamalan is putting out a sequel to Unbreakable? Can't that guy just retire already?
05:09 <Schism> How th-
05:09 <Schism> No, I have to ask. How do you make a sequel to Unbreakable?
05:10 <Thelema5> No idea. Hire Sam Jackson and Bruce Willis and hope for the best?
05:10 <Ali> Just slap a 2 at the end of it and call it a day *shot*
05:10 <Schism> But that doesn't even...!
05:25 * Thelema5 offers everypony some cheez-its
05:31 <Thelema5> (one of my snack-food weeknesses
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05:36 <PinkieShy> What..
05:36 <PinkieShy> VRChat downgraded me to Known user..
05:36 <PinkieShy> 10 seconds later.. I flash back to trusted user..
05:36 <PinkieShy> I wonder if a team decides the rank or is it all a computer.
05:36 <Thelema5> Hmmm
05:39 <Thelema5> I'm watching US traffic stop videos- not sure how officer discretion works. Person 1: Yeah, sorry, didn't mean to! Cop: Burn in hell, here's $1000 fine... or Person 1: Yeah, sorry, didn't mean too! Cop: No worries, you're free to go
05:40 <Thelema5> Same infraction should = same penalty, no? That crap encourages racism and profiling
05:40 <PinkieShy> No more steven universe for 2 weeks :(
05:40 <Thelema5> I still haven't seen any of the new eps
05:40 <PinkieShy> They are making us wait for the hour long special.
05:41 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 I linked to you a episode before but that's probably the only one you've seen :P
05:42 <Thelema5> I didn't even finish it because I passed out
05:43 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 today's episode ended with the words "Help! We need backup!"
05:43 <Thelema5> Don't spoil please
05:43 <Thelema5> I intend to watch them
05:44 <Thelema5> At some point
05:44 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 that wasn't a spoiler was it?
05:44 <Thelema5> Nah
05:44 <Thelema5> More of a teaser
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05:50 <Thelema5> Oh crap, my teen years are suddenly surfacing on social media... a guy I played with in a terrible band posted an old set list and tagged me... now I'm getting all sorts of messages from people I heard from in 28 years
05:52 <Thelema5> *haven't heard from
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05:53 <Thelema5> "Holy shit it's "thelema5"... I ran away from home and camped in his back yard on Osborne Hill Road in Junior High School, before my Mom showed up with the Police. I was hiding in a tent in his backyard."
05:53 <Thelema5> True
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06:02 * Ali pat pats Thelema5
06:04 <Thelema5> This fight choreogaphy is perfect https://youtu.be/Fhhbua6ELxo
06:04 <Thelema5> Seriously on par with the best kung fu films
06:06 <DashedRainbows> Hmm. Terrible band
06:11 <DashedRainbows> I sleep now
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06:27 <Thelema5> I'm going nuts trying to figure out where I know this song from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIT4Hk6YP5o . I'm 99.99% sure it was from a movie
06:27 <Thelema5> But it's definately not any of the movies listed on wikipedia or IMDB
06:28 <Thelema5> This has seriously been driving me nuts for 48 hours now
06:28 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
06:28 <Finwe> Mlles Ali and DashedRainbows, Mr Thelema5.
06:28 <Thelema5> Hey Finwe
06:28 * Ali squeaks
06:28 * Finwe doffs his hat.
06:28 * Finwe oils Ali's hinges.
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06:54 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
06:54 <Finwe> o7
06:55 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
06:55 <ConfusionRift> And hello everypony.
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10:45 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Future Cutie Mark Crew Set Leaks on Taobao [ http://tinyurl.com/ydyjbsoy ]
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11:00 * DashedRainbows licks ConfusionRift
11:02 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P
11:03 * DashedRainbows neighs
11:08 * ConfusionRift neighs in surprise.
11:09 * DashedRainbows barks too
11:10 <DashedRainbows> How are you?
11:11 <ConfusionRift> Doing alright, just playing a game. :P
11:12 <ConfusionRift> And you?
11:13 <DashedRainbows> I'm alright now that I'm home
11:14 <ConfusionRift> That's good. And I hope all went well. I mean, that was a while ago, but don't know much else.
11:15 <DashedRainbows> Recovery takes forever
11:16 <ConfusionRift> It does, especially such a procedure.
11:18 <DashedRainbows> Sleep is hard but eh need it
11:20 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, that's gonna be an issue for some time.
11:22 * DashedRainbows licks ConfusionRift again before pretending to sleep
11:24 * ConfusionRift huggles DashedRainbows before heading to "sleep". :P
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12:24 <Cepheid> Morning.
12:27 <Schism> Hiyo.
12:27 * Schism plays a hand of Doman Mahjong against Cepheid. From the start he immediately goes into tenpai.
12:28 * Schism then draws absolutely no tiles which could complete his hand.
12:30 <Cepheid> I am not familiar with the game outside the name and that it involves tiles.
12:30 <Schism> Ah; ever played Gin Rummy?
12:30 <Cepheid> No.
12:31 <Cepheid> Board and card games were not a big thing in my life.
12:31 <Schism> Kay. The goal of the game is just to fill your hand with straights (1, 2, 3) and triplets or quadruplets of the same tile.
12:31 <Schism> That's pretty much it. 'Tenpai' is just a term meaning you're one away from a full hand.
12:32 <Cepheid> Ah.
12:32 <Cepheid> Sorry for lack of appearance by the by. La-Mulana 2.
12:33 <Schism> I had an inkling.
12:33 <Cepheid> Still not done.
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12:34 <Cepheid> That damned vase. Spent 20 hours trying to get to it.
12:35 <Cepheid> Knew where it was. Where to enter from. Items I needed. Just needed a choice selection of mantras.
12:35 <ConfusionRift> Oh, hello there.
12:35 <Cepheid> Turns out it was in the deathtrap filled hell of an area I didn't check. Because of all the traps.
12:36 <Schism> Aha. Of course.
12:36 <Cepheid> Also Schism, fair warning. Killing bosses makes the game harder.
12:36 <Cepheid> It isnt as noticeable early on, but each boss you kill adds more enemies to the world.
12:37 <Schism> Oh, nice. Undoing the seals or something?
12:37 <Cepheid> I presume these are the enemies you would face from the get go in hard mode.
12:37 <Cepheid> I dunno. But enemies from other areas start appearing in new areas.
12:38 <Cepheid> I see the Lokapala everywhere now.
12:38 <Schism> You got the same thing in La-Mulana to an extent: after killing three or four bosses, a lot more mobs (like those red/blue ghosts) would show up in, for example, the Gate of Guidance.
12:38 <Cepheid> Yeah, but this is a lot more noticeable.
12:39 <Cepheid> There is an incredible jump as well after killing the sixth guardian.
12:41 <Cepheid> But i am slowly making progress. Especially now that i have decided to limit my time with the game. It broke me the other night. My assumption is that my brain can only handle it for so many hours before even my keds become ineffective.
12:41 <Cepheid> So I limit myself to four hours.
12:42 <Schism> I certainly know that I'm much the same way sometimes -- where frustrations pile on to such a degree that I'll burn out or worse.
12:43 <Cepheid> In any case I have to limit myself anyway. School starts today.
12:44 <Cepheid> Gotta say though, the game uses every trick it can.
12:44 <Cepheid> Including repurposing one from the first game.
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12:46 <Schism> Cepheid: Now, just making sure, you did go into that room where it says "Don't hit the pillar", and smacked it a few times, right?
12:46 <Cepheid> Got a bunch of stuff I need to do when I get to school. Then i get several hours to myself. May spend that time designing my game.
12:46 <Cepheid> Of course.
12:46 <Cepheid> I regularly smack the rock nowadays.
12:46 <Schism> Heh. Well, I particularly meant the obvious-as-hell trap.
12:46 <Cepheid> It was an obvious trap, but I wanted to confirm it.
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12:48 <Cepheid> My advice, Schism? Pay attention to everything. Death traps are somewhat more noticeable due to skeletons. Also you can unequip items. There is one you will want to unequip later when you get it.
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12:48 <Schism> Oh, I know the death trap/skeleton thing, heh.
12:49 <Cepheid> And openings in and around rooms are a good hint the game gives.
12:49 * Schism nods.
12:50 <Cepheid> But yeah, one item... It lets you run. But you can't stop it. Once you start, you just keep going until you hit a wall. It takes effect so long as the item is equipped. Just highlight it and press Accept or whatever button it is.
12:50 <Cepheid> It makes control impossible. And the game makes no note of the fact that you can remove it
12:50 <Schism> Ah, ouch.
12:51 <Cepheid> But it IS needed.
12:51 <Schism> The old story about thousand-league boots, heh.
12:53 <Cepheid> Meanwhile I am absolutely 100% certain I have done a number of things out of order. I already have maximum life, among other things.
12:54 <Schism> Huh. Well, it's not like you need to do everything _in_ order. From what I've heard it's a little less sequential than La-Mulana 1.
12:54 <Cepheid> I'd argue a lot less sequential.
12:55 <Schism> Mmm.
12:55 <Schism> Oh, you run into any puzzles as frustrating as that one room from the Dimensional Corridor yet?
12:56 <Cepheid> I killed bosses 3, 4 and 5 before I killed off boss 2.
12:56 <Cepheid> You mean thr mantra puzzle? Or the buzzsaws?
12:57 <Schism> The room with the sacred orb.
12:57 <Cepheid> You will have to be more specific. Dimensional Corridor is a set of five puzzles.
12:57 <Schism> Oh. Not the Endless Corridor, sorry, the frontside of that. Dimensional thingy.
12:57 * Surreal_Nightmares sleepies on Schism and uses Cepheid as a blanket
12:57 <Surreal_Nightmares> Nini!
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12:57 <Cepheid> Oh. Dimensional. Right.
12:58 <Cepheid> No. Nothing like that yet.
12:58 <Schism> That's good at least. You went a little bit nuts in regards to that room.
12:59 <Cepheid> In regards to figuring out how to get to it anyway.
12:59 <Cepheid> Once I knew the problem with it, it was a game of patience getting to it and solving it. Which i did after about an hour of trying.
13:00 <Schism> You are far more patient than I.
13:00 <Cepheid> Anyhow, i am at school now. I have a few things i need to do, so I will be back in a bit.
13:00 <Schism> Alrighty.
13:31 <Cepheid> Done of all that stuff. Most of it anyway. Taking a break to catch my breath. Lung infection is recurring again. Starting to think I have chronic bronchitis, which lasts for months.
13:32 <Cepheid> Gonna go to the clinic tomorrow and see about another round of antibiotics. Preferably a different kind. Then get an x-ray done to make sure nothing odd is there.
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13:44 <Cepheid> Right. Off to OSAP now.
13:45 <Cepheid> Better to just get it over and done with now rather than later.
13:45 <Finwe> o3o
13:45 * Finwe hats on Cepheid.
14:05 <Cepheid> Good news, bad news, and more good news.
14:06 <Cepheid> Good news, paperwork was sufficient for my disability status.
14:06 <Cepheid> Bad news, i needed a signed letterhead and that was forgotten by the doctor.
14:07 <Cepheid> Good news, i had the old paperwork on me. With attached letterhead. I asked if that would be enough. So long as it was from the same doctor, it was. So i submitted that.
14:07 <Cepheid> Minor slipup by me. I forgot to ask for a copy of the paperwork for my records.
14:24 <Cepheid> Wifi in this building is garbage.
14:28 * ConfusionRift yawns.
14:28 * Schism rolls over and offers ConfusionRift a homemade trailmix bar. Cranberry and cashew, in particular.
14:29 <ConfusionRift> Can't be as bad as here. I'm not that far from the access point and yet am always outside reach.
14:29 * ConfusionRift noms trailmix. "Thankies!"
14:30 <Cepheid> One bar signal. Takes a minute to connect. Packet loss through the roof.
14:32 * Cepheid noms on french toast, a muffin, a hard-boiled egg, and some mini sausages.
14:33 <Cepheid> This should last me the day.
14:35 <Cepheid> First class of the day... Japanese language. Then followed by HCI.
14:37 * Cepheid looks at muffin more closely. "I better avoid random drug tests today."
14:37 <Schism> Heh, poppyseed?
14:38 <Cepheid> Yep.
14:38 <Schism> Eh, your doctors have cycled you through enough medications that you could probably bluff your way out of testing positive for opiates.
14:39 <ConfusionRift> "The color on this tester... isn't even on the chart."
14:39 <Schism> "It's gone to plaid."
14:41 <Cepheid> Signal's better up here it seems.
14:41 <Cepheid> Schism: I'm pretty sure blood tests would show a number of abnormalities, especially steroids.
14:41 <Cepheid> But yes.
14:41 <Cepheid> There's also amphetamine in there now as well.
14:41 <Schism> Eh, lots of people would test positive for those. Diet pills, OCD meds...
14:42 <ConfusionRift> Oh, it's real late. Sleep time!
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14:42 <Schism> Sleep well. o3o
14:42 * Schism bwar.
14:42 * Cepheid makes mental note to service laptop later tonight.
14:42 <Cepheid> Yeah, this pill is primarily used for dieting.
14:42 <Cepheid> It deals with binge eating, primarily.
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14:43 <Cepheid> It's used secondarily as an ADHD medication, which, hey, guess what? I have ADHD.
14:43 <Schism> Yeah, it's a common enough choice.
14:43 <Schism> Hum, Windows box?
14:43 <Cepheid> Hmm?
14:43 <Schism> The laptop.
14:43 <Cepheid> Nah, I mean physical servicing.
14:43 <Schism> Oh, fans clogging up?
14:43 <Cepheid> There's something rattling inside when I tilt it, and the right hinge is creaking. I suspect the two are related.
14:43 <Schism> Hmmm.
14:44 <Cepheid> Likely a broken screw.
14:47 <Cepheid> Otherwise, the laptop's still functioning. I'll need to set up ibus or something, though.
14:47 <Cepheid> Oh wait, I already have it installed and set up. こんにちは。
14:50 <Cepheid> Note to self: Avoid the Carleton University subreddit. Stories of mishandling stuff aplenty.
14:50 <Cepheid> Apparently, lost exams, grades not yet submitted or released..
14:50 <Schism> Sounds like a good place to kvetch and commisserate, though.
14:51 <Schism> And maybe to, if you take a TA position again, keep an eye out and do what you can to avoid those sorts of things.
14:52 <Cepheid> I didn't get a TA position.
14:52 <Cepheid> I applied, but this round of selection, I was rejected.
14:52 <Cepheid> Meh. It leaves me time to focus on discrete.
14:53 <Schism> True. And the TA position last semester was a pretty stressful one for you, so.
14:53 <Cepheid> Also, these missing grades and lost exams are more along the lines of "lost final exams" and "no final grades submitted" and thus, I couldn't do anything anyways.
14:54 <Cepheid> "Officials warn motorists not to eat chicken tenders spilled on highway."
14:55 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/4jhw9h7714921.jpg Oh my gods.
14:59 <Cepheid> Anyway, I'm gonna go find a place that has a wifi signal and a socket to plug my hardware in.
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15:05 <Cepheid> Looks like this'll do.
15:07 <Cepheid> Sort of, anyway.
15:07 <Cepheid> It's still finicky. AP must be down.
15:09 <Cepheid> Right. It isnt just finicky, it's borked.
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15:32 <Schism> It's a shame it wasn't freezing last night, or maybe those chicken tenders would still be edible. Not that I'd suggest actually eating them anyway, but you know, it's such a waste.
15:37 <Cepheid> Heh.
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15:39 * Heartbreak starts booping Schism.
15:42 <Cepheid> I'm debating how I want to implement player-world collision in my game. The basic idea I have right now is to paint two separate "scenes". The scene with all the graphical tiles, and a separate, invisible in-game scene with solid-color tiles that represent solidity or other features.
15:42 <Cepheid> In doing this, I can make it possible for visually-solid tiles to actually be non-solid simply by removing the relevant solidity tiles on the map.
15:50 <Cepheid> It's a good thing I'm doing the design before the coding, because I just realized a problem with the editor design I had in mind.
15:50 <Cepheid> I'll need a separate editor tool to fix that problem.
15:54 <Cepheid> Well, that's one problem down.
15:59 <Cepheid> And that's the other problem solved.
15:59 <Cepheid> Anyways, it's almost time for lecture, I'm gonna go hang around the room.
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16:14 <Cepheid> Bah. A class in there that sticks around until the start of my class.
16:15 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Bodegacats_/status/1082613405784199168?s=19
16:16 * DashedRainbows licks Cepheid
16:16 <Cepheid> How are you doing Dashed?
16:18 <DashedRainbows> Still in pain but feel better now
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18:19 <LibrarianofHope> hi
18:24 <LibrarianofHope> no one in?
18:26 <Ali> Kinda
18:26 * Ali licks LibrarianofHope
18:27 <Cepheid> My mouth is unbelievably dry.
18:27 <LibrarianofHope> drink fizzy stuff
18:28 <Cepheid> I need something like biotene. I'll need it until I get over this infection. My mouth dries up quite easily. Which is bad for Japanese.
18:29 <LibrarianofHope> least you gained dry wit owo
18:31 <Cepheid> ... You are lucky I am on various drugs.
18:31 <Cepheid> I'd have killed you for that.
18:32 * LibrarianofHope hides behind ali
18:34 <LibrarianofHope> finding a job s had as heck
18:34 <LibrarianofHope> i probably sent 50 cv tis days
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18:44 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
19:00 * DashedRainbows reads LibrarianofHope
19:03 <Cepheid> That piano in MC 2000 needs to go.
19:04 <Cepheid> It isn't tuned, and the people wbo play it do so poorly, and it overpowers my headphones.
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19:33 <Ali> But can you tuna fish Cepheid~
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19:42 * Cepheid tunes a fish.
19:55 * Schism pffs, reading about how a pair of time loopers are confronted with the lich who has killed them multiple times -- and the lich turns out to be genial, cordial, and generally pleasant to deal with on a non-combat basis.
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19:56 <Schism> "Sup, heard you guys were looking for me." "Aw crap."
19:56 <PinkieShy> Been using eye drops since last night for my eyes when they begin to itch..
19:56 <PinkieShy> the eye drops seems to help sooth the itch a bit.
19:58 <PinkieShy> I'm honestly worried about making eye dr appointment.. like what if they say there is nothing wrong lol
20:18 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy, like a lot
20:18 * PinkieShy hugs dashedrainbows and hands him a ton of plushies
20:19 <DashedRainbows> Yay!
20:28 <Finwe> Messrs PinkieShy and Schism, Mlles Ali and DashedRainbows.
20:28 * Finwe doffs his hat.
20:30 * Ali doffs over Finwe
20:33 * DashedRainbows sniffs Finwe and wags her tail
20:33 * Finwe hugs an Ali and a DashedRainbows.
20:34 * PinkieShy trips and falls on Finwe
20:34 <Finwe> D:
20:34 * Finwe gets squashed.
20:37 * DashedRainbows barks
20:37 * Cepheid climbs atop Schism, holds out the Djed Pillar.
20:37 * Schism chants, "Mu."
20:38 * Schism snickers, "Main character tells his brother that he has access to a rather profound cache of raw materials, resources, and treasures from bygone eras. His brother, a treasure hunter, simply gives him a look."
20:39 * Cepheid gets struck by an eye of retribution for 25% of his health.
20:40 * Cepheid lands into some spikes. Takes 30% damage. Then lands into a convenient enemy nearby, takes minor damage, but knockback sends him into the spikes again. He then dies.
20:40 <Schism> A common result.
20:40 <Cepheid> I wish I could say I was exaggerating this a bit. But stuff like this has happened due to changes in invincibility frames and spikes.
20:41 <Cepheid> The game is making me abuse subweapons like mad.
20:41 <Schism> Kinda the point, there.
20:41 <Schism> The game still has that whole 'beat all the bosses using no subweapons' thing too.
20:42 <Cepheid> Yep. Though some make me wonder how.
20:42 <Schism> Probably careful abuse of the mechanics of main weapons, mostly.
20:42 <Finwe> !plot
20:42 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
20:42 <Schism> *wigglewiggle*
20:42 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
20:42 <Cepheid> Then again, considering I got the almighty axe after every other weapon...
20:42 <PinkieShy> !muffin
20:42 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3
20:42 <PinkieShy> Yes, here is 2.25 gigamuffins
20:42 <DerpyBot> Thank you!!
20:42 * DerpyBot glomps PinkieShy
20:43 <Schism> Well, the main benefit of the axe is its range above and below, right? I trust the whip becomes stronger in LM2 as well.
20:43 <Cepheid> Like, I spent over 80% of the game thus far without the axe.
20:43 <Cepheid> Particularly above. Below is beat out by the katana now.
20:44 <Cepheid> The katana has some major underswing to it.
20:44 <Cepheid> Knife is fast. Whip is fast, and good for early damage above you.
20:44 <Cepheid> You get a fencing weapon for in front of you. Hits exactly the height of the character.
20:45 <Cepheid> Add in a new item, all weapons gain a repetitive attack for endless combos.
20:45 <Schism> Hmm, useful to be sure.
20:46 <Schism> And ah, is that katana worth using in LM2?
20:46 <Cepheid> The subweapons are mostly the same. Earth arcs forward now. Hold up, it arcs upward. Hold down, you get old behaviour.
20:46 <Schism> Rapier sounds like it might be akin to the knuckle weapons in Castlevania, of comparatively limited use.
20:47 <Cepheid> And gods is the katana worth it.
20:47 <Cepheid> The axe got a huge speed nerf. Increased damage, but slow as hell.
20:47 <Schism> You might just be used to using it with the item which doubles its speed.
20:47 <Finwe> Katana is 1d10 one-handed weapon, but requires the exotic weapons feat.
20:48 <Cepheid> Rapier is basically a longer-range knife, if you ask me. Fast, but moderate damage.
20:48 <Cepheid> Meanwhile...
20:48 <Schism> Can you use the rapier while ducking?
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20:49 <Cepheid> Throwing stars can break stuff and fly through blue flame. Same with rolling stars or whatever they are called. Those can trigger floor switches.
20:49 <PinkieShy> Learned of an alarm clock i could get that alot of people says scares them half to death when it goes off
20:49 <Schism> The blue flame bit, I know. "Nothing but metal can pass."
20:50 <PinkieShy> Sonic alarm.. They say the buzz is so loud you can hear across a house lol
20:50 <Cepheid> Bombs, I only just just found. Flares are the same as the original.
20:50 <PinkieShy> a yt vid i saw sounded like a fire alarm sound
20:50 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:50 <Schism> PinkieShy: If you're going to do that, get a regular alarm that just plays music overloud.
20:51 <Schism> Not too hard, really. You can hook your phone up to a speaker system with an aux cord. >.>
20:51 <Cepheid> I have not toyed with the game's pistol.
20:51 <Cepheid> I presume it got nerfed as ammo is less expensive.
20:51 <Schism> I'll admit, I ... kinda used the pistol in a few spots.
20:51 <Schism> Not LM2, but LM1.
20:51 <Cepheid> I don't have the pistol.
20:52 <Schism> You'll probably want it for the collection achievement, then load your save without.
20:52 <Cepheid> I had it in LM1 but I expended all its ammo figuring out what kind of weapon it was.
20:52 <Cepheid> And never bought ammo for it after.
20:53 <Schism> Ah. There was an ammo merchant in LM1 in the Temple of Moonlight. Sold 3 boxes for 400 coins.
20:53 <Cepheid> There is one in the village too.
20:53 <Schism> Wish I'd known that before making use of several item fairies.
20:53 <Cepheid> 400 coins.
20:53 <Schism> Oh, but the one in the village sold /one/ box for 400 coins.
20:53 <Cepheid> The fairies. Man. The fairies in this game.
20:53 * DashedRainbows also licks Schism
20:54 <Cepheid> Schisn, word of advice. Hoard money as best you can.
20:54 <Cepheid> You will need it.
20:54 <Schism> I shall keep that in mind. Do they charge money?
20:55 <Cepheid> Sort of. One-time payment. In the hundreds.
20:55 <Cepheid> For each type of fairy other than healing.
20:56 <Schism> Hm, well, makes sense. It's basically like buying software.
20:56 <Cepheid> I still haven't found Miracle Witch.
20:56 <Cepheid> I want it.
20:56 <Schism> Does getting those pieces of software let you play those games in that one room?
20:56 <Cepheid> Not as far as i can tell.
20:57 <Schism> Ah, pity. That'd have been a nice easter egg.
20:57 <Cepheid> I tried equipping them and using the door. No luck.
20:57 <Cepheid> Nothing changes.
20:57 <Cepheid> So either i need something else or... It is post-game.
20:57 <Schism> I want to say that there has to be some way to unlock them in-game, but we've already established that Naramura and Duplex are trolls.
20:58 <Cepheid> You have no idea.
20:58 <Schism> I seem to recall that the traps in Eg-Lana were meant to be the original traps in La-Mulana.
20:58 <Cepheid> Yep.
20:59 <Schism> I forget, did you every get anywhere in Hell Temple?
20:59 <Schism> ever*
20:59 <Cepheid> They love to use the one trap I absolutely hate a lot.
21:00 <Cepheid> Never did finish the hell temple. I should.
21:00 <Schism> Put down a weight, ceiling falls?
21:00 <Cepheid> Nah. Walk along, ceiling just falls. And keeps falling. And catches up to you. Or long hallways with buttons tghat trigger the entire hall ceiling to collapse.
21:01 <Schism> Ah, as first seen in the Roots of Yggdrasil. "Seek not that which is beyond your reach."
21:01 <Cepheid> You think that one was bad...
21:01 <Cepheid> Try one the entire length of the screen.
21:01 <Schism> Yeesh.
21:01 <Schism> Come to think, did you ever play the RPGMaker game "The Witch's House"?
21:02 <Cepheid> I did. Never finished that either.
21:02 <Schism> I did, but yeesh was that ever fun. Similar to what you're describing, s'all.
21:03 <Cepheid> There is a place later in the game, that has branching paths through it.
21:03 <Cepheid> One path, which is mandatory, is nothing but a pain in the arse series of deathtraps.
21:04 <Schism> Oh, the Dimensional Corridor/Eternal Corridor place you mentioned.
21:04 <Cepheid> Just mapping it out for later caused me to die at least ten different times. From different traps.
21:04 <Schism> Slash Twin Labyrinths monstrosity.
21:05 <Cepheid> Nah. Twin labyrinths and dimensional/endless corridor are easy in comparison.
21:05 <Schism> Oh, I meant the unholy conjoinment of all three.
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21:06 <Cepheid> This place feels more akin to the Hell Temple. But it isn't. It is a 'normal' area in the game.
21:06 <Schism> Wiiiith more than a little bit of Gate of Illusion.
21:06 <Schism> Actually, yeah, that frustration sounds like Gate of Illusion to me.
21:06 <Cepheid> You make one mistake, step in the wrong place, even stand still for too long, you die.
21:07 <Schism> Well, the developers did warn us that it'd be harder than the original.
21:07 <Cepheid> Yep. Clearer(sort of) puzzles, but harder in return.
21:08 <Schism> A better-translated game makes things easier and harder both.
21:09 <Schism> Easier because the puzzles that are meant to be clear are a bit less problematic; harder because the hints that are meant to be obscure can be perfectly opaque.
21:09 <Schism> Heh. Remember the "Blue Eyes" puzzle in Silent Hill 3?
21:11 <Cepheid> 23 friggen hours on one puzzle. I mean it wasn't pointless wandering, but... At every turn, I keep running into a puzzle that needed an item I knew the location of, knew which way to enter the room, and even what items would be required to obtain it.
21:11 <Schism> Figuring out in which order to obtain those items is part of the puzzle.
21:12 <Schism> It's like a giant escape-the-room game.
21:12 <Cepheid> It wasn't that I lacked anything obtainable.
21:13 <Cepheid> It was that I lacked knowledge. A piece of information.
21:13 <Cepheid> I scoured the world. Except for that death trap region.
21:13 <Cepheid> Guess where the info was.
21:14 <Schism> Yeah, aaaand... yup.
21:14 <Cepheid> They also hid it behind some interesting puzzles.
21:14 <Schism> Don't get me wrong, I appreciate not wanting to test your patience there, but that's kind of the obvious point to hide the puzzle's solution.
21:16 <Cepheid> My brain made a bad assumption regarding that area.
21:16 <Schism> Ah, I know that assumption.
21:16 <Schism> "I need a specific item to get past here."
21:16 <Cepheid> The enemies were obscenely tough, numerous. The environment hazards were insane. The traps madness.
21:17 <Cepheid> I assumed I gained access to a late-game area too soon.
21:17 <Schism> Worse yet, I suspect you very well might have.
21:17 <Cepheid> It is really ironic too because all the NPCs kept telling me to go to that place.
21:18 <Schism> I mean, you explored around and got all the Sacred Orbs, so you were able to finally take on that challenge. You might very well have gone through the intended path.
21:18 <Cepheid> I actually did. When I found it, I lacked a critical item that made it a bit more reasonable. A bit.
21:18 <Schism> Feather?
21:19 <Cepheid> Those garb slots? They aren't for flashy, showy items.
21:20 <Schism> huh. Though most of them are, from what I understand.
21:20 <Cepheid> Ah. Probably the ones in the key-locked chests.
21:20 <Cepheid> One of them makes you outright immune to heat and cold damage. At the cost of disabling some items.
21:21 <Cepheid> Which is required outside of having maximum health.
21:21 <Schism> I think those key-locked chests are the garb. And my brother has provided me with a file for those chests.
21:21 <Cepheid> Oh yeab they are garb items. Even says so.
21:21 <Schism> (Along with the game itself, which he preordered.) Y'want?
21:22 <Cepheid> It outright tells you what it is, item and all, if you scan it. It stands out too.
21:22 <Cepheid> Wait what?
21:22 <Cepheid> Oh the file? Nah.
21:23 <Schism> It's basically a little file you throw into a folder. Doesn't affect gameplay or anything.
21:23 <Schism> But alright.
21:24 <Cepheid> As for the feather... That thing pissed me off. Though mostly my fault. I didn't pay attention to a drawing on a tablet.
21:25 <Cepheid> I basically proved you can make it to a lot of places without double jump.
21:25 <Cepheid> Game can probably be finished without it.
21:26 <Cepheid> Hmm... No.
21:26 <Schism> Now that would be fun. I bet there are a lot of sequence break points which were intentionally added.
21:26 <Cepheid> There is one area you absolutely need the feather for.
21:27 <Cepheid> Of course it could be possible to get in there without it somehow.
21:27 <Schism> So certainly not the feather, but almost definitely the claws?
21:27 <Schism> (LM1's claws always struck me as something added after the fact.)
21:28 <Cepheid> I'm thinking maybe a weird combination of items. Like say single jump, point-blank bomb toss in the face to cause knockback.
21:28 <Cepheid> Except the claws were in the original.
21:28 <Cepheid> So not an afterthought.
21:28 <Schism> I can see that being a thing, though.
21:29 <Schism> Closest approximation would probably be the bomb jump in Metroid.
21:29 <Schism> Though there's 'damage-boosting' in a number of games, and of course we've both used the caltrops to excellent effect.
21:30 <Cepheid> Rocket jumping has been a thing for over a decade.
21:30 <Schism> Yes, but that's more velocity than timed invincibility frames.
21:31 <Schism> Also, ... 'over a decade'? Two and a half, I fear.
21:31 <Cepheid> I don't track how long things exist for.
21:31 <Schism> Well, not quite that long. But Quake was 1996, so I was close.
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21:31 <Schism> Crud, we're old. ._.
21:32 <Schism> Anyway, Quake didn't have invincibility frames; this is a bit of a different duck, mechanics-wise.
21:32 <Cepheid> Technically rocket boosting existes as far back as DOOM.
21:33 <Cepheid> And yeah... Though the devs really screw you on the invincibility frames.
21:33 <Cepheid> And spikes override them.
21:33 <Schism> Hrmm. 1993. That is two and a half decades now. Though there was also the matter of Marathon, and Rise of the Triad, games which were practically commensurate but didn't quite define a generation.
21:34 <Schism> And I've heard that. Water mechanics in LM2 are also painful.
21:34 <Cepheid> They get better with the anchor.
21:34 <Schism> Seen that, actually. LM1 had traps. LM2 has deathtraps.
21:35 <Cepheid> The anchor has a more functional use this time around.
21:35 <Schism> Actually, LM1 had the same kind of spikes as LM2. Remember that bit where you had to go around from the Chamber of Birth?
21:35 <Cepheid> It lets you sink to the bottom of the briny depths.
21:36 <Schism> Ah, so you don't keep floating. (And drinking the water.)
21:36 <Cepheid> Yeah i remember those spikes. Hidden passage to the outside, etc.
21:36 <Schism> Also... hm. Was it Birth or Extinction that the ridiculous tunnel filled with the Megaman 2 platforms were?
21:36 <Cepheid> Yeah those spikes are back too.
21:36 <Schism> Those are what I meant, yeah.
21:37 <Cepheid> Inferno Cavern. Past the Extinction rooms.
21:37 <Schism> Right, and then it led into the alternate entrance.
21:37 <Cepheid> Nah. I mean they changed the way normal spikes work.
21:37 <Schism> And contained that stupid statue.
21:37 <Schism> Yeah, but they work the same way as /those/ ones... to a point.
21:37 <Cepheid> Go walk theough some spikes. Can still do it. Go get hit by a bat while walking through.
21:38 <Schism> Oh. ... wait, no, that's not different.
21:38 <Schism> Except... oh right. Invincibility frames wear off, you get hit again.
21:38 <Cepheid> You wilk take minor damage from the bats. The knockback will push you into the spikes you are walking through and you will take damage from them.
21:38 <Cepheid> They don't wear off.
21:38 <Cepheid> The spikes ignore the frames.
21:39 <Schism> Ah, I see.
21:39 <Cepheid> If you touch then from above, invincibility frames or no, they will hurt you.
21:39 <Cepheid> With one exception.
21:39 <Schism> You're really looking forward to the LM2 variant of the Scriptures, aren't you?
21:39 <Cepheid> Spike damage can't lead to further spike damage.
21:39 <Cepheid> Already got it.
21:40 <Schism> Oh. Bats no longer worry you. X3 Did you sing a hosanna to the heavens when you obtained it?
21:40 <Cepheid> Along with the bracelet, the crucifix, and the item that lets you kill skeletons easily.
21:40 <Cepheid> Debatable Schism.
21:41 <Cepheid> When i got the scriptures, i had killed my sixth boss. Which introduced a flood of enemies everywhere.
21:41 <Cepheid> Bata are done, sure. But now i got a slew of new targets to dodge.
21:41 <Schism> W... well. The bats in La-Mulana and 2 are specifically designed to be obnoxious anyway.
21:42 <Cepheid> No. Of the items, the skeleton one is most useful.
21:42 <Schism> Well, at least when Filly_Nightmares tackles you from now on, you can phase through her.
21:43 <Cepheid> Anyways. Gotta run. Back soon.
21:43 <Schism> And really? Not the bracelet?
21:43 <Schism> Anyway, take care.
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22:00 <Cepheid> The bracelet is nice but not super critical. Besides the devs caught on to the money farming.
22:02 <Schism> Not a big surprise. That stack of crates in the Chamber of Extinction was an obvious choice, as was the fact that faeries don't really tick down when you transition between screens.
22:03 <Schism> There was that one puzzle, though.
22:04 <Schism> The one required to get the Cog of Life, where you used the Lamp of Time to get through five pots in short order.
22:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: GIANT Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2855 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8b39t8t ]
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22:18 * Schism clears off a serving spoon, a pitchfork, and... wait. No, that's just a butter knife.
22:34 <Cepheid> The lamp of time puzzle for the cog seemed straightforward to me.
22:34 <Cepheid> Anyhow, no gaming for me tonight. I am exhausted. Been awake since 1 AM.
22:37 <Schism> Yeesh. Rest well, then.
22:38 <Schism> ... Huh. Cepheid, quick question, before you sleep?
22:39 <Schism> Heh, guess not.
22:40 <Cepheid> Not going to sleep yet.
22:40 <Cepheid> What's up?
22:41 <Schism> So, there are dimensional distortions in this fic I'm reading (Mother of Learning). They all show up as isocahedrons. Is this as obvious to you as it is to me?
22:42 <Cepheid> No. I am confused.
22:42 <Schism> Huh. By way of explanation, an isocahedron is generally what people think it'll look like when a 4d cube is flattened into 3d space.
22:43 <Cepheid> Ah.
22:45 <Schism> Hum. I'm still a derp, but maybe not that much of one. I kinda figured that was obvious.
22:46 <Schism> (Not that you are, but that it requires a certain knowledge of dimensionality and how space folding works.)
22:49 <Cepheid> Yeah that kinda stuff is beyond me. Anything past 3 dimensions is too much for me to visualize.
22:50 <Schism> Well, the easiest way to consider it is like this. You know how you can draw a cube on a piece of paper?
22:51 <Cepheid> Yes.
22:51 <Schism> So that's a 2d flattening, a representation of a 3d object which we can physically see, in a 2d space.
22:52 <Schism> In turn, hypothetically, we can see such a flattening of a 4d object upon our 3d space.
22:53 <Schism> From the perspective of a 2d person, the impression of a cube would be functionally impossible. From the perspective of a 3d person, the impression of a /hypercube/ would be similarly impossible.
22:54 <Schism> So you can see where the whole visualization aspect is difficult.
22:55 <Schism> So, remember when you were playing Symphony of the Night, and Alucard saved at odd die-shaped points?
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22:57 <Schism> (Granted, I'm also trying to give you ideas for that Abyss-styled Etrian Odyssey thing.)
23:00 <Schism> Mostly, the idea is that the flattening of a hypercube would be an icosahedron. That then turns out to be the shape of a gate between areas in this fiction, and also the sign of a 4th-dimensional entity reaching into the world and playing with it.
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23:05 <Cepheid> Heh.
23:06 <Schism> Yeah, it's possibly the best divine entity reveal I've ever seen.
23:06 <Schism> Especially since it was hinted at from the start. A++.
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