00:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfic Updates - January 26th [ http://tinyurl.com/yd73h3pt ]
00:06 *** Quits: Felixia (Felix@Pony-mtbb9h.static.versatel.nl) (Connection closed)
00:07 *** Quits: Filly_Nightmares (Surreal@Cutest.Floofy.Changeling.Batpone) (Connection closed)
00:11 <Finwe> o3o
00:11 <Finwe> Good evening, everypony!
00:11 <Finwe> Miss Ali, Messrs PinkieShy and Schism.
00:11 * Finwe doffs his hat.
00:13 * Finwe then hats on Ali.
00:14 <Cepheid> Fun, vertex array objects are weird.
00:14 *** Joins: Thelema5 (Thelema5@is.a.curious.pone)
00:14 <Thelema5> Hello, everypony
00:24 * Schism looks at the clock. "7:30. Okay, I think I can swing a nap..."
00:33 <PinkieShy> I was able to experience the feeling people says as 'stuck in the mud feeling' that memory foam gives.
00:33 <PinkieShy> That foam topper did it.. and i actually liked it lol
00:34 <PinkieShy> Fell to sleep on my side and woke up on my side instead of say going to sleep on my side, and waking up laying on my back.
00:36 *** Quits: RyuImperator (RyuImperato@Pony-dgk5vo.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Leaving.)
00:46 *** Joins: Vulpor (Vulpor@Pony-lkvpl9.254-net.sccoast.net)
00:46 <Vulpor> Howdy all
00:47 <Vulpor> Anyone here like a game called Stellaris
00:55 *** Quits: danwellby (Daniel_well@when.hell.freezes.over) (Connection closed)
01:05 <DashedRainbows> I own it
01:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Memoir of Season 7 - This Is Me PMV [ http://tinyurl.com/yb38gezr ]
01:05 * DashedRainbows licks Thelema5
01:12 * Thelema5 tastes like coconut curry ramen
01:17 * DashedRainbows begs
01:19 <Vulpor> I will have it soon on console
01:22 <Finwe> Miss DashedRainbows, Mr Vulpor.
01:22 <Finwe> and Mr Thelema5.
01:22 * Finwe doffs his hat.
01:24 * Thelema5 o7
01:26 <Finwe> Hmm, sunny weather forecast for tomorrow.
01:26 <Finwe> Temperature betwixt -15°C and -18°C.
01:27 <Finwe> Might be a good day for skiing.
01:29 <Thelema5> Brrrrr. Sounds like a good day to stay inside under multiple blankets and binge watch something
01:30 <Finwe> o3o
01:31 <Finwe> I had better get some sleep before that.
01:31 <Finwe> Good night, everypony!
01:31 <Finwe> !lullaby
01:31 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed
01:31 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby
01:31 <Finwe> !shoo
01:31 * DerpyBot sways from side to side, quietly humming "shoo be doo shoo shoo be doo"
01:44 <Cepheid> Huh.
01:44 <Cepheid> I just received a set of e-mails from the school.
01:44 <Cepheid> Apparently someone started a fire.
01:49 <Ali> Annoying
01:49 <Ali> So I'm guessing classes are canceled for a few days?
01:49 *** Quits: Arkomeda (Arkomeda@Pony-s3uon8.ti9c.n0qi.0587.2a02.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
01:52 <Thelema5> I hope it wasn't a very bad fire
02:01 <Cepheid> Nah, it wasn't.
02:01 <Cepheid> From the sounds of things, probably an experiment gone wrong.
02:02 <Cepheid> Let's see what the subreddit is saying.
02:02 <Cepheid> Apparently there's been an arrest.
02:03 <Cepheid> So it wasn't an experiment. Someone screwed up.
02:03 <Cepheid> ...
02:03 <Cepheid> Holy hell, what?
02:03 <Cepheid> Hazmat is being sent in.
02:04 <Cepheid> Twitter feed following the fire suggests a chemical that's not supposed to be exposed to air is being stored in a chem room.
02:04 <Cepheid> ... And arsenic, in the same room.
02:04 <Cepheid> So now decon is needed.
02:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: Cover Art Appears for Cancelled My Little Pony X Transformers Crossover Comic [ http://tinyurl.com/yb9bbtpy ]
02:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1692 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9kfzx3w ]
02:06 <DashedRainbows> how's the Thelema5?
02:07 <Thelema5> Cepheid, ack!
02:09 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, OK. I went out and got ramen today, and then I went to a record store and bought this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Sides_of_Leonard_Nimoy
02:09 <Thelema5> You?
02:10 <DashedRainbows> my day too was ok
02:10 <Cepheid> I'm not at school so I'm fine.
02:10 <Cepheid> I'm familiar with the building it happened in though.
02:10 <DashedRainbows> I finally got out of the house
02:10 <DashedRainbows> though, my neuropathy is meh
02:11 <DashedRainbows> yay for opiates
02:15 <PinkieShy> took another steven universe quiz..
02:15 <PinkieShy> It told me i am a sapphire.. I can actually see that lol
02:18 * Cepheid dances around Schism to "La-Mulana 2 - Dance of Midgard." He has transmogrified, and has taken the shape of one of them cute little ball enemies which dance to the music.
02:18 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXe-Dc5UFk0
02:18 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
02:18 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about La-Mulana 2 OST extended - Dance of Midgard (Immortal Battlefield theme)
02:20 <Thelema5> Dashed, did you go anywhere, or just literally out of the house?
02:26 <ADragonDreaming> It turns out that I am actually pretty okay at MH World with Mouse and Keyboard.
02:28 <Cepheid> I need to get to work on that on the PC.
02:43 <ADragonDreaming> Charge Blade is again pretty intuitive for me
02:47 * Cepheid puts on random anime music. Gets Railgun OP. "I really should watch that series again, if only to watch Misaka blow **** up with a railgun that far exceeds even a conventional railgun."
02:49 <Cepheid> Bah.
02:49 <Cepheid> I am so close to finishing this one critical component, but my seroquell has kicked into overdrive.
02:49 <DashedRainbows> Thelema5: to a store
02:50 <PinkieShy> I have ate like the whole bag of freeze dried strawberries in a day...
02:51 <PinkieShy> These are so good.. Like when i get hungry for sweets.. I been eating this instead.. ITs enough to kill my hunger for something sweet.. The strawberries are just that sweet.. But sunkist adds no sugar :3
02:58 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, get anything good?
02:58 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, that seems like a lot of sugar
02:58 <Thelema5> They might not add any, but it's there naturally in the fruit
02:59 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 the bag says in the whole packet there is only 10g of sugar and like 80 calories.
02:59 <PinkieShy> I mean that's little compared to say 50g in a little debbie
03:00 * Cepheid flops off to bed.
03:00 <Thelema5> Yeah, you're right! I just looked it u- 1 cup os stawberries has only 7 grams of sugar. I was totally wrong.
03:00 <Thelema5> *up
03:00 <Thelema5> Sorry, my keyboard has reached the end of it's useful life
03:00 <Thelema5> G'night, Cepheid
03:00 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 I plan to buy the Kale in the brand and apples :3
03:01 <PinkieShy> I'm interested in what kale taste like..
03:01 <Thelema5> Mmmm, aaaaaapppplllleeessss
03:01 <DashedRainbows> eww kale
03:01 <Thelema5> Kale is not a thing I enjoy
03:02 <Thelema5> I've been on a clementine kick lately, have had at least one a day all week.Not sure why, I usually don't really like any fruits except bananas and grapes.
03:02 <DashedRainbows> I got some good stuff like ground beef, ground turkey, cereal, vodka sauce
03:02 <Thelema5> Yum!
03:04 <DashedRainbows> pizza-flavored pringles, waffle mix, chocolate chips
03:04 <DashedRainbows> pb!
03:05 <DashedRainbows> good thing target is woefully empty
03:05 <DashedRainbows> I can go there
03:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Reminder: Rainbow Dash Day and Video Game Character Ponification [ http://tinyurl.com/ya5myhtd ]
03:05 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 The only movie theater here in Conway closed today.
03:06 <PinkieShy> They are looking for new owners :3 Hopefully they do get new owners soon.. Having to go to the beach to see a movie at the theater would suck.
03:06 <Thelema5> Gah, I feel your pain. The only one near me closed 6 months ago.
03:06 <PinkieShy> Frank Theaters last fall went into Chapter 12..
03:06 <ADragonDreaming> Cepheid: do you ever get more palicoes?
03:06 <DashedRainbows> so rural both of y'all
03:07 <Thelema5> The nearest one now is a specialty theater which only shows super artsy films and documentaries
03:07 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, I am, yeah.
03:07 <PinkieShy> I mean we have the 'theater' downtown.. but its not a Movie theater.. Its like on of them live show theaters :P
03:08 <Thelema5> This is the closest one now- a 45 minute drive https://upstatefilms.org/now-playing-in-woodstock
03:08 <Thelema5> Although I /did/ want to see Vice
03:08 <Thelema5> Hmmm, maybe tomorrow?
03:08 <DashedRainbows> in woodstock...
03:09 <Thelema5> Yah. Where the company i work for is based. Hippie Central
03:09 <DashedRainbows> like dude
03:09 <DashedRainbows> that's groovy
03:12 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, the town where this is a weekly ritual in the town square
03:12 <Thelema5> !lin https://youtu.be/bl7UAPo9mII
03:13 <Thelema5> Er, stupid broken keyboard
03:13 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/bl7UAPo9mII
03:13 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
03:13 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Woodstock Drum Circle, Slow Motion
03:17 <DashedRainbows> ah yes far out
03:17 <Thelema5> Totally maaaaan
03:19 * DashedRainbows chokes on pot smoke
03:20 <Thelema5> For real. Open smoking in the street over there, even though it's still llegal. The local cops just don't enforce it.
03:21 <Thelema5> *Illegal. Freaking keyboard
03:21 <Cepheid> Tonight I shall start reading... Hmm... Overlord. Start from the first novel.
03:21 <Thelema5> Enjoy!
03:24 <DashedRainbows> duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude
03:24 *** Quits: Vulpor (Vulpor@Pony-lkvpl9.254-net.sccoast.net) (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
03:24 *** Surreal_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
03:24 <Thelema5> Hmmm.... so I'm about to try this snack my SO brought back from Thailand for me. Neither of us knows what it is https://i.imgur.com/05LDI41.jpg
03:25 <Thelema5> Seems to be a spicy ketchup pototo fry thing, but I'm told that ketchup isn't really a thing in Thailand
03:26 <Thelema5> Could be spicy blood sauce, for all I know
03:26 <DashedRainbows> lol
03:26 <DashedRainbows> glhf
03:28 *** Joins: JonTheVGNerd (JonTheVGNer@Pony-48j.p7d.45.70.IP)
03:28 <DashedRainbows> I'm like so bummed man
03:28 <Thelema5> Holy shit! There was a packet of chili sauce inside!
03:28 <Thelema5> https://i.imgur.com/K5UmFOK.jpg
03:28 <Thelema5> Oh, sorry, language
03:29 <Thelema5> Oh, two actually... Hmm.
03:29 <Thelema5> Why so bummed?
03:29 <DashedRainbows> eh, things from the past
03:30 <Thelema5> Hmm, so yeah, the "fries" are unseasoned, with just a hint of salt. They actually taste a LOT like McD fries. I guess the idea is to dip them into the chili sauce.
03:30 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, The past can only haunt us when we choose to dwell on it in the present
03:31 <DashedRainbows> the present too
03:31 <DashedRainbows> sigh
03:32 *** Joins: HyperDash (HyperDash@Pony-obvko9.wa.comcast.net)
03:34 <DashedRainbows> I feel like my bursts of courage served for naught except to show how much of a coward I am now
03:34 *** Joins: Vulpor (Vulpor@Pony-lkvpl9.254-net.sccoast.net)
03:35 <Thelema5> You're a good pone.
03:35 <Thelema5> You'll get past this.
03:36 <DashedRainbows> I'll say why I did so though it can be offensive to some
03:36 <DashedRainbows> and bigoted
03:38 <Thelema5> ?
03:40 <DashedRainbows> so near the end of pride month I had the revelation that a. in the past trans ppl were treated as depressed probably for much the same reason and b. if those ppl can be proud of sinning why should I have to hide who I am
03:40 <DashedRainbows> btw not lgbt at all
03:41 <DashedRainbows> maybe a twisted thought but seems true
03:42 <DashedRainbows> at least that's what I remember
03:43 *** Joins: RazorSharpFang (RazorSharpF@Pony-fba.foj.63.203.IP)
03:47 *** Quits: Vulpor (Vulpor@Pony-lkvpl9.254-net.sccoast.net) (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
03:50 * Ali boops RazorSharpFang
03:50 * Ali also boops JonTheVGNerd
03:51 * JonTheVGNerd flails
03:52 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys
03:55 <Thelema5> Hey there
03:55 * Ali pours water on RazorSharpFang cause its so hot there.
03:56 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, no one should feel repressed and should be proud of who they are
03:56 <RazorSharpFang> *the water vaporises as soon as it touches*
03:56 <Thelema5> I'm not usually one to enjoy pop music, but the combination of Sia, Shia LaBeouf & Maddie Ziegler is freaking dynamite.
03:56 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/KWZGAExj-es
03:56 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Sia - Elastic Heart feat. Shia LaBeouf \u0026 Maddie Ziegler (Official Video)
03:57 <Thelema5> Maddie Ziegler's character in this is my spirit animal
03:57 <DashedRainbows> Thelema5: even the mafia bosses of the world? 0.o
03:58 <Thelema5> I promise you they already are proud of who they are.
03:58 <DashedRainbows> ik tis sad
03:59 <DashedRainbows> or... someone like the POTUS
03:59 <Thelema5> Is a super proud arrogant eff-wad. Hiding nothing except his treason.
04:00 <DashedRainbows> ikr
04:04 <Thelema5> Ugh, Looking up medical conditions on google image search is a bit disturbing. I mean, I usually pretty comfortable with most bolidy fluids and processes... but wow.
04:05 <DashedRainbows> what told you that was a good idea?
04:06 <Thelema5> No one. Just trying to get tot he bottom of a thing I have going on.
04:06 <Thelema5> *to the
04:06 <DashedRainbows> ic
04:08 <DashedRainbows> I was encouraged to get a medical id but so $$
04:08 <Thelema5> In other news, I bought 12 ounces of cashews today for $4! I freaking love Aldi's.
04:08 <DashedRainbows> wooooo
04:10 <Thelema5> They're pretty much my favorite healthy snack, but they usually cost waaay too much.
04:10 <Thelema5> In hindsight I probably should have gotten more than one container.
04:14 <DashedRainbows> the reason for my story was to show why it's affecting me so now
04:14 <Thelema5> Gotcha
04:14 <Thelema5> I hope you feel better soon!
04:20 <DashedRainbows> doubt it
04:23 *** Quits: Mpon_ (Mpon@Pony-s3c3bt.business.telecomitalia.it) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
04:26 *** Filly_Nightmares is now known as Surreal_Nightmares
04:29 *** Joins: BrightSpot (Mibbit@Pony-lntct5.tukrga.sbcglobal.net)
04:41 <Thelema5> Today I learned that I actually like opera. Always thought I hated it. Turns out I just hate foreign language operas because I have no idea what they're going on about. Heard my first english opera today, Marnie. Holy gosh, it was revolutionary for me.
04:41 <Thelema5> Thank you NPR
04:42 <RazorSharpFang> Maybe you need subtitles.
04:43 *** Quits: Cobalt_Blitz (Cobalt@Pony-39pn3u.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
04:44 <Thelema5> Maybe? It's not really the same as hearing the syllables produced in song, though
04:44 <RazorSharpFang> Subtitles in addition to the audio though?
04:45 <Schism> o/` Oh Maria, so far away now, will I ever see your smile...?
04:45 <Thelema5> yeah, close approximation.
04:45 <RazorSharpFang> With like, an indicator of which meanings/words are being enunciated at the current time.
04:45 <Schism> I mean, uh... *cough* Anyway. Hiya.
04:45 <Thelema5> I can't find performance online, though, which sucks, because I'm enthralled but missed half of it.
04:46 <Thelema5> Hey Schism
04:47 <Schism> Interesting news: the Attorney General of Massachusetts is investigating Purdue Pharmaceuticals on grounds that they may have manufactured the current opioid crisis. Purdue are the makers of Oxycontin.
04:48 <Thelema5> Perdue and Nestle are 100% evil corporations
04:48 <Thelema5> Bayer, too
04:49 <Schism> The sooner they're up against the wall, the better.
04:50 <Thelema5> For real. We need to hold these massive conglomerates accountable and tax the living hell out of them
04:52 <DashedRainbows> Sigh
04:53 <Thelema5> Get a minimum basic income going
04:54 <Schism> Alas, the reason so many corporations do business in the United States is because it's one of the world's largest tax havens.
04:54 *** Joins: Changeling_Nightmares (Surreal@Cutest.Floofy.Changeling.Batpone)
04:54 <Thelema5> I know. It's horrible, and the orange abonination is only making it worse
04:55 <Thelema5> *abomination
04:57 *** Changeling_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
05:01 * DashedRainbows keeps sighing til sleep
05:03 *** Joins: Mpon (Mpon@Pony-s3c3bt.business.telecomitalia.it)
05:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: <unspecified> [ http://tinyurl.com/yaehlshm ]
05:09 *** Quits: [AFK] (Bat@Squeaky.Cuddly.Batpony) (Quit: And...gone)
05:10 *** Joins: [AFK] (Bat@Squeaky.Cuddly.Batpony)
05:11 *** Quits: Mpon (Mpon@Pony-s3c3bt.business.telecomitalia.it) (Connection closed)
05:11 *** Joins: Mpon (Mpon@Pony-ukh.gld.8.79.IP)
05:20 *** Joins: Mpon_ (Mpon@Pony-ukh.gld.8.79.IP)
05:22 *** Quits: Mpon (Mpon@Pony-ukh.gld.8.79.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
05:23 *** Joins: [1]Thelema5 (Thelema5@Pony-ejpkou.east.verizon.net)
05:25 *** Quits: Thelema5 (Thelema5@is.a.curious.pone) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
05:25 *** [1]Thelema5 is now known as Thelema5
05:26 *** Thelema5 is now known as Pony_11764
05:27 *** Pony_11764 is now known as Thelema5
05:29 *** Quits: HyperDash (HyperDash@Pony-obvko9.wa.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
05:29 <Thelema5> Sooo... how do I get my estranged extreme right wing NRA supporting ultra conservative racist trumpet to stop sharing horribe on my facebook profile?
05:29 <Thelema5> *father
05:30 <Thelema5> Talking about my father, here
05:30 <Thelema5> *horrible stuff
05:36 *** Quits: SunsetShimmer (DJPon3IsHer@DJ.Wub.Wub) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
05:38 <Thelema5> Hmm, all four roads which lead out of my town have been washed out or flooded. Gues I'n going anywhere for a while
05:39 *** Joins: ConfusionRift (ConfusionRi@Pony-nf551c.res.spectrum.com)
05:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift
05:39 <Thelema5> *not... this keybord sucks
05:39 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
05:41 *** Joins: Mpon (Mpon@Pony-s3c3bt.business.telecomitalia.it)
05:42 *** Quits: Nuclear (Nuclear@Pony-o4ecd7.l1ou.dckj.0001.2600.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
05:43 *** Quits: Mpon_ (Mpon@Pony-ukh.gld.8.79.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
05:53 *** Joins: Fn (Eogan@Pony-hf5e74.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
05:53 *** Joins: Mpon_ (Mpon@Pony-s3c3bt.business.telecomitalia.it)
05:53 *** Quits: Mpon (Mpon@Pony-s3c3bt.business.telecomitalia.it) (Connection closed)
05:55 *** Quits: FruitNibbler (Eogan@Pony-lj6om2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
06:32 *** Joins: Reia_Hope (Reia_Hope@TheCowPony)
06:32 *** Quits: Cyan_Spark (Cyan_Spark@sparks.only.last.so.long) (Quit: September Blue, Thy sorrows be forgotten...)
06:40 *** Joins: Cyan_Spark (Cyan_Spark@sparks.only.last.so.long)
06:55 <Schism> You know when you've been up for 24 hours, decide that you want to sleep to get back on schedule, and then wake up three hours later, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed?
07:02 * Schism makes a pot of tea in that singular way, a tradition passed down over generations.
07:09 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
07:09 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Messrs Schism and Thelema5, Miss Ali.
07:09 <Finwe> o7
07:10 * Ali flops about on Finwe
07:10 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
07:12 *** Quits: DashedRainbows (uid13850@is.a.pretty.pony) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
07:15 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
07:15 * Ali squeaks
07:16 <Schism> <QI> Ravens have been observed calling wolves to an animal carcass so that they tear it open, making the meat more accessible for the birds.
07:16 <Schism> Ravens are very smart. o3o;
07:16 * Schism also boops the cute unicorn with a cup of warm tea with honey and milk!
07:16 <Finwe> Schism: Well, dinosaurs have had millions of years of time to train their intelligence.
07:16 <Finwe> Some of them a
07:16 <Finwe> have actually succeeded.
07:18 * Ali is not cute so some other unicorn was booped.
07:19 * Schism considers, then boops the totally-not-cute-at-all-of-course Ali with the tea.
07:20 * Ali squeaks and spills tea on herself.
07:20 * Schism grumps, and offers paper towel, too.
07:27 * Ali drips on Schism and yawns
07:29 *** Quits: Mpon_ (Mpon@Pony-s3c3bt.business.telecomitalia.it) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
07:36 <PinkieShy> oh neat.. Omegle looks to be trying to add a HTML5 chat thing..
07:36 <Schism> That's never a good idea.
07:36 <PinkieShy> Then again.. It just gave the same error in chrome Error with camera: Requested device not found
07:37 <PinkieShy> hmm
07:37 <PinkieShy> There.. The webcam was glitched..
07:39 *** Quits: PinkieShy (coolm@Pony-ck81je.67-212-45-net.sccoast.net) (Connection closed)
07:39 <ConfusionRift> Glitched indeed.
07:40 * Finwe attaches skis to Ali's hooves an takes her with him to the track to Solvalla.
07:41 * Ali noms on the ski's instead
07:41 <Finwe> Sunnydale or Sunnyvale, had it an English name.
07:42 <Finwe> The plural of ski is skis, not ski's. o3o
07:42 * Finwe refutes Ali's nomming by a grammatical argument.
07:43 <Schism> Sunnydale? Look out for monsters-of-the-week and giant serpents.
07:43 * Ali baps the apostrophe away and keeps nomming
07:44 <Finwe> Schism: It's -16°C outside. Giant serpents hibernate.
07:44 <Schism> Ah, true. Giant wolves, then. o3o They do well in the snow.
07:44 <Finwe> Some warm-blooded monsters might roam the forest, though.
07:45 <Ali> And watch out for those meddling kids
07:46 <Finwe> Whatever you encounter in Sunnydale should not be a problem for SMG.
07:46 <Finwe> Be it sub-machine gun or Sarah Michelle Gellar. o3o
07:48 *** Joins: Changeling_Nightmares (Surreal@Cutest.Floofy.Changeling.Batpone)
07:49 <ConfusionRift> Oh, a shmup bundle.
07:50 *** Quits: Filly_Nightmares (Surreal@Cutest.Floofy.Changeling.Batpone) (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Changeling_Nightmares)))
07:50 *** Changeling_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
07:51 <ConfusionRift> Uuurgh, some of the bundled stuff is... eeerm... not very PG. I just want Metal Slug!
07:52 <Schism> Metal Slug is probably the best there. o3o;
07:53 <ConfusionRift> Oh, you saw it, huh. :P
07:54 <Schism> Not yet, no.
07:54 <Schism> I'm just saying because it's Metal Slug.
07:55 * ConfusionRift nods. "For $2.50! And some extra stuff I might not even touch, not even by curiosity."
07:55 * Ali camps on ConfusionRift while waiting for .17
07:55 <ConfusionRift> Can't wait! 0_0
07:57 <Ali> Its gonna be awhile. They say maybe Feb but eh
07:58 <ConfusionRift> Might just continue making stuff in creative, because I'm not very good at it on free mode.
07:59 * Finwe ruffles the ski-nomming cutish unicorn.
08:00 * Ali ish not cute
08:00 <Ali> ConfusionRift, I understand its hard to get a grasp of the game. Though .17 will make things easier
08:02 <ConfusionRift> I get the jest of it, it's just hard to start over each time, and the bugs do get me real nervous. The last map kinda sucked, full of ridges.
08:02 <Schism> Eh, you can turn the bugs off in free mode.
08:02 <ConfusionRift> No achieves, I think.
08:02 <ConfusionRift> Wait...
08:02 <Ali> You can get some
08:02 <Schism> Pretty sure you still get achievements if you adjust the settings, yes.
08:02 * ConfusionRift slaps his head.
08:03 <Ali> But the beat the game in X or don't use X are turned off while on peaceful
08:03 <ConfusionRift> I don't need the bugs no more!!! Why do i keep forgetting this?!
08:03 <Ali> Really the bugs are the worst when you start in the desert region
08:03 <Ali> Stupid red cloud goes EVERYWHERE
08:08 *** Quits: Reia_Hope (Reia_Hope@TheCowPony) (Connection closed)
08:13 <ConfusionRift> Or some Minecraft. I dunno. Just wanna chill out a bit.
08:14 * Ali drops ConfusionRift into the nether
08:14 <ConfusionRift> Loving the music mod. :P
08:17 <ConfusionRift> Nether has never been more festive.
08:22 *** Quits: BrightSpot (Mibbit@Pony-lntct5.tukrga.sbcglobal.net) (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
08:22 *** Quits: JonTheVGNerd (JonTheVGNer@Pony-48j.p7d.45.70.IP) (Quit: Leaving)
08:22 *** Quits: Tempo (SamShmuck@Pony-0854uq.fios.verizon.net) (Quit: Leaving)
08:24 <ConfusionRift> Nah, going with Factorio.
08:25 * Ali gives ConfusionRift all the turrets
08:27 <ConfusionRift> Thankies! :P
08:27 * ConfusionRift surrounds everything with turrets, even with no bugs nearby.
08:29 <Ali> Give it time, the stink will attract them
08:31 * Filly_Nightmares uses ConfusionRift as a bed
08:32 * ConfusionRift patpats Filly_Nightmares. :P
08:44 * Filly_Nightmares nomfs ConfusionRift
09:02 *** Joins: RyuImperator (RyuImperato@Pony-dgk5vo.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
09:07 *** Joins: Personifire (Tilde@Pony-veobvh.dgbc.9fgu.6000.2605.IP)
09:08 *** Quits: Persona (Tilde@Pony-c1j92e.dgbc.9fgu.6000.2605.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
09:19 *** Quits: cabbage (cabbage@Pony-ftdnse.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com) (Connection closed)
09:25 *** Quits: Filly_Nightmares (Surreal@Cutest.Floofy.Changeling.Batpone) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
09:29 *** Quits: Ali (Ali@Pony-cvibue.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) (Quit: Leaving)
09:55 *** Joins: DashedRainbows (uid13850@is.a.pretty.pony)
09:56 * DashedRainbows licks ConfusionRift
09:56 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P
09:57 * DashedRainbows wags her tail
10:08 *** Joins: Changeling_Nightmares (Surreal@Cutest.Floofy.Changeling.Batpone)
10:09 *** Changeling_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
10:15 *** Quits: Filly_Nightmares (Surreal@Cutest.Floofy.Changeling.Batpone) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
10:17 *** Quits: Personifire (Tilde@Pony-veobvh.dgbc.9fgu.6000.2605.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
10:33 *** Quits: Quill-Swirl (Nyah@Pony-jaks4r.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
10:44 *** Joins: Arkomeda (Arkomeda@Pony-s3uon8.ti9c.n0qi.0587.2a02.IP)
11:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1467 [ http://tinyurl.com/yccegsb4 ]
11:41 *** Joins: danwellby (Daniel_well@when.hell.freezes.over)
11:47 *** Quits: ConfusionRift (ConfusionRi@Pony-nf551c.res.spectrum.com) (Quit: Recharging the batteries. Laters! *shutdown*)
12:00 *** Joins: Schism|Adagio (NA@Pony-3oedb8.dsl.bell.ca)
12:02 *** Quits: Divide|Adagio (NA@royalkitchen.canterlot.equ) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
12:05 *** Quits: DashedRainbows (uid13850@is.a.pretty.pony) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
12:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Mario World Rom Hack "Super Alicorn Sisters: Return of the Tantabus" On the Way [ http://tinyurl.com/ybywejnt ]
12:18 *** Quits: matttheshadowman (mattthesha@the.shadowy.corners) (Quit: I will return to the shadows)
12:37 *** Joins: matttheshadowman (mattthesha@the.shadowy.corners)
12:43 *** Quits: matttheshadowman (mattthesha@the.shadowy.corners) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
12:44 *** Joins: matttheshadowman (mattthesha@the.shadowy.corners)
12:45 * Surreal_Nightmares uses Schism as a bed and goes sleepies on
12:45 <Surreal_Nightmares> Nini!
12:45 <Surreal_Nightmares> I wuv you forever!
12:45 *** Surreal_Nightmares is now known as Sleeping_Nightmares
12:53 *** Joins: Mpon (Mpon@Pony-ukh.gld.8.79.IP)
12:56 <Finwe> o3o
12:56 * Finwe blankets on Sleeping_Nightmares.
13:08 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony!
13:08 <ADragonDreaming> mowr
13:26 <Finwe> And every dragon.
13:26 * Finwe ruffles ADragonDreaming.
13:27 * ADragonDreaming is ruffled
13:53 * Schism awakens, after... well, several naps, which maybe add up to a good night's sleep. He even has an idea for a weird story.
13:57 <Thelema5> 'Morning
13:57 <Thelema5> Weird stories are often the best sort
14:01 *** Joins: totient (quassel@Pony-tr49gi.qiab.vj8s.004a.2601.IP)
14:01 <Finwe> Messrs Schism and Thelema5.
14:01 * Finwe doffs his hat.
14:02 <Finwe> The institute of meteorology warns that the night is going to be cold.
14:02 <Finwe> Between -20°C and -30°C.
14:04 <Schism> Thelema5: So stop me if you've heard this one. Two researchers wind up the last people on Earth, after something sweeps the planet clean of humans. They stumble across a last-ditch experiment to explore alternate realities, and decide to try and enlist those from alternate worlds to figure out what happened -- and keep it from spreading.
14:04 <Schism> But the machine only works for realities on a geometric spiral away from theirs, such as it were, and the further out they search, the weirder things get.
14:04 <Thelema5> Neat idea. Haven't heard it before.
14:06 <Schism> Hee. My brain was somewhat evidently thinking about Sliders, for some reason.
14:06 <Finwe> Completely clear skies and northerly winds. Looks like the forecast is going to be accurate.
14:07 <Schism> Finwe: Good day for skiing. o3o
14:07 <Finwe> I just came home. I was a good four hour on the track.
14:08 <Thelema5> Niiiice
14:08 <Finwe> Or, rather, I was away for a good four hours.
14:11 <Schism> Dear @jack: go on, please keep fasting. Don't let us stop you. You can do it! Go for fifty days, or a hundred!
14:12 <Finwe> I had a short pause at a café at one of the outdoor centres in the national park where I was skiing.
14:13 <Schism> Finwe: Ooh, whatchaget?
14:13 <Finwe> I just had a sip of cold water.
14:14 <Schism> Aw. Guess it was warm in there, at least.
14:14 <Finwe> I spent most of the time there reading maps.
14:15 <Finwe> I haven't been skiing in those parts since 2006 or so.
14:26 <Thelema5> I don't know what to do today. We're expecting rain and snow, so I can't really go far.
14:33 * Finwe boops Thelema5 with Nordic skis.
14:42 <Thelema5> I'm too out of shape for that, thanks though!
14:49 * OctaveSymphony blep
14:59 * Schism noms an open-faced ham and swiss sandwich with stone-ground honey mustard.
15:04 <Thelema5> Yum!
15:05 * Schism also offers Thelema5 a small, two-egg omelet with melted old cheddar and Mrs. Renfro's ghost pepper salsa.
15:17 <Thelema5> Yay!
15:17 * Thelema5 noms
15:28 <Thelema5> Thanksie
15:41 <Schism> Oh, the past. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxru9p0WoAAkofT.jpg:large
15:53 *** Joins: Personifire (Tilde@Pony-mkc226.dgbc.9fgu.6000.2605.IP)
16:08 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:08 <Cepheid> That seems less like advertising and more like belittling.
16:08 <Cepheid> Surprised Apple became such a household name like it has, with advertising like that back then.
16:09 <Schism> Oh, they weren't the only ones.
16:09 <Schism> And that sort of thing did go on for quite some time. Remember the old slogan, "Sega does what Nintendon't?"
16:11 *** Quits: Personifire (Tilde@Pony-mkc226.dgbc.9fgu.6000.2605.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
16:11 <Cepheid> Ah, yes.
16:11 <Cepheid> Blast processing!
16:12 * Schism snickers. "Yuppers."
16:13 <Cepheid> What did that refer to again..?
16:14 <Cepheid> Ah, right.
16:14 <Schism> The bus speeds of one particular processor.
16:14 <Cepheid> DMA read/write. speeds.
16:14 <Schism> Yea.
16:14 <Schism> Well, not bus, but yeah.
16:14 *** Quits: RazorSharpFang (RazorSharpF@Pony-fba.foj.63.203.IP) (Connection closed)
16:16 <Cepheid> Admittedly, I do miss those days of hardware.
16:16 <Cepheid> For 2D graphics, it's much easier.
16:16 <Cepheid> 3D, is a bit more complicated in that case.
16:16 <Cepheid> Modern hardware doesn't do accelerated 2D, so it's tricky to do 2D games.
16:17 <Cepheid> You have to replicate the functionality by using a 3D API, and using a bunch of fun math to get everything to look right.
16:18 <Cepheid> For starters, you need an orthographic projection matrix. Then you need to configure the GL to use painters method drawing(This is usually set by default, though. But not always.)
16:18 <Cepheid> For sprites, you need to load a texture into GPU memory, then calculate the coordinates of all the various sprites in terms of texture coordinates, which are in the range of 0.0 to 1.0
16:19 <Cepheid> In more modern systems, you then need to load multiple shaders, create shader programs, and so on.
16:19 <Cepheid> And then you have to create vertex arrays objects, vertex attribute buffers, set up the data format in the GL for reading the vertex data..
16:20 <Cepheid> For each background element, you shove a quad into a vertex attribute buffer. For each sprite, the same thing. Only *THEN* are you ready to draw.
16:20 <Cepheid> In which case you draw from the bottom up. So "furthest" element first. That'd be background. If parallax, then one of the layers of the background.
16:21 <Cepheid> Keep doing that, then stop at the sprite layer. For each entity on the screen, draw their sprite, their position, orientation, etc, etc, etc. It's all dynamic, so a single VAO isn't usable. You'll be using a bunch of them for different sprite sizes.
16:21 <Cepheid> That involves layers upon layers of matrix multiplications, additions, subtractions, shearings, pushing and popping onto a stack, and the like.
16:21 <Cepheid> Then foreground layers. Then UI, which itself is a pain in the rear.
16:22 <Cepheid> Also, you get none of the special features of older hardware. You can't just draw directly to the video buffer for special stuff like lines, empty squares, rectangles, triangles and the like.
16:22 <Cepheid> You can't just swap out palettes, or modify them at runtime.
16:23 <Cepheid> For that, you have to use special features in the shader language and GL.
16:23 <Cepheid> It is an absolute, positively disastrous nightmare to do 2D in OpenGL or D3D.
16:24 <Cepheid> And this is just for bare minimum stuff.
16:25 <Cepheid> My current setup is not bare minimum. I want to retain the Mode 7 appearance from the SNES era. While a simple polygon can replicate it somewhat, there's still limitations.
16:25 <Cepheid> So what I do is I draw everything on a small 640x480 texture using framebuffer features from OpenGL. I then draw that texture to the screen, scaled up.
16:26 <Cepheid> The result is that any Mode 7-like effects retain their pixelated nature.
16:27 <Cepheid> It also means I can draw sprites at a native resolution, rather than "doubling them up" like many games do.
16:28 * Schism nods. "Sorry, distracted still! But yeah, it's definitely more difficult in practice. And heh, that works as a mode-7 analogue."
16:29 *** Joins: Tempo (SamShmuck@Pony-0854uq.fios.verizon.net)
16:29 <Cepheid> The problem with attempting Mode-7 with standard resolutions is that the GL will gladly rotate polygons with sprites on them, but it's... I can't really explain with words, to be honest.
16:30 <Cepheid> It's a visual artifact of the higher resolution with pixel sprites being doubled or quadrupled up.
16:30 <Cepheid> It results in stuff like, say you have a single "pixel" comprised of a grid of 4x4 pixels in an image. Normal orientation, it looks "right" because it's not been sheared or rotated.
16:31 <Cepheid> But when you rotate it, you retain that perfect looking pixel even when it's at a 45-degree angle. The edges of it are flawless, perfect.
16:31 <Schism> Ah, some distortion or... flickering?
16:31 <Cepheid> There's no pixelation of the edges.
16:31 <Cepheid> No indication of a low-resolution display, like what the appearance of the game suggests.
16:31 <Schism> Oh, I see. Hmmm.
16:31 <Cepheid> Let me see if I can make an example.
16:33 <ADragonDreaming> Tobi-Kadachi is an annoying monster.
16:33 <Schism> Nah, I get what you mean. As opposed to the 'tearing' effect you'd normally get from a pixelated output, with jaggies and all that, you instead get an effect which, while great for high-visual games, look wrong where authenticity is required.
16:35 <ADragonDreaming> You know, it occurs that there's something I haven't done that speaks to the quality of MH World
16:35 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/70g8Orq.png This, basically.
16:35 <Cepheid> You got sub-pixel precision which results in smoother edges for that square even though it was rotated 45 degrees, etc.
16:35 * Schism nods, "That would require... a bit of work to correct. And more polys than you probably want."
16:35 <Cepheid> When in reality, on a low-resolution display, it'd be aliased.
16:36 <Schism> Yea.
16:36 <Cepheid> It's not actually that difficult to replicate.
16:36 <Cepheid> It's just that people either don't care enough to do it, or don't know how to do it.
16:36 <Cepheid> Or the engine they work with(Unity, UDK) doesn't allow it.
16:36 <Cepheid> And what's that, ADragonDreaming?
16:36 <ADragonDreaming> I haven't checked a wiki.
16:37 <Cepheid> Yeah, because the game doesn't necessarily require it.
16:37 <Cepheid> Almost everything is provided via in-game tutorials or databases.
16:37 <ADragonDreaming> All the wiki info is easily accessible ingame, yeah
16:37 <ADragonDreaming> easily, and conveniently
16:37 <Cepheid> Anyhow, as for the effect I am describing above, the simplest way to implement it is to render the game at the resolution it's it's attempting to replicate.
16:38 <Cepheid> Of course, this approach is flawed. Running a 40-inch wide-screen display at 640x480 is going to look weird and distort stuff.
16:38 <Cepheid> Plus OSes don't handle it too well, these days.
16:38 <Cepheid> They resize all open windows to the new resolution, they re-arrange icons, etc, etc.
16:39 <Cepheid> Plus there's all the flashing and stuff, and possibility the display may not even support such a low resolution(Mine goes down to 320x240, I think. Maybe lower?)
16:40 <Cepheid> So, that option's out. Most people take the other route, pick a base display resolution to work with, and then scale their pixel artwork up to such a dimension that it resembles what they want at that base resolution.
16:40 <Cepheid> It works, but it has glaring issues when you start to implement special effects, like Mode-7, or 3D effects over a 2D screen.
16:41 <Cepheid> Even if you set up the matrices properly to ensure they're scaled for the display, accordingly. The GL is just that damned good at figuring out which pixels need to be touched to retain a level of sharpness for the resolution, and there's no way to turn that off.
16:43 * Schism hrms. "Shooting themselves in the foot -- well, not exactly, because it's designed for something entirely different."
16:43 <Cepheid> The last approach is what I'm using. It's a bit more complicated, but not by a lot. You use off-screen rendering to render to a framebuffer with the exact resolution you are trying to replicate. Once done rendering everything, you take that framebuffer, use it as a texture, and draw a display-sized square polygon, drawing the texture upon it. So long as the scaling attributes are set properly, it'll do a linear-nearest
16:43 <Cepheid> scaling operation. Everything is doubled, tripled, or quadrupled for the display automatically.
16:44 <Cepheid> That includes any pixels generated through 3D rendering.
16:44 <Cepheid> So it'll retain that pixelated look, even with 3D special effects.
16:45 <Cepheid> It has some benefits that are more technical than visual, as well.
16:45 <Cepheid> Namely, all the graphical assets can be drawn at a native resolution, instead of having to draw them all scaled up ahead of time.
16:45 <Cepheid> This reduces the texture size, thus taking less memory, and allowing more such assets in GPU memory.
16:47 <Cepheid> Also technically allows for more special effects without killing the GPU, since by drawing to a really small framebuffer, then scaling up, there's fewer pixels to touch.
16:47 <Cepheid> The hardest thing the GPU has to do, is literally scale the image up.
16:47 <Schism> Heh, and that's hardly the world's most difficult task, aye.
16:48 <Cepheid> Especially as it's not using any special filtering method.
16:48 <Cepheid> The nearest magnification filter is pretty straightforward.
16:49 <Cepheid> For each pixel that needs to be filled in when scaling up, it picks the nearest pixel in the smaller image. Thus, we got a black pixel at 0/0, and we scale up 4x, so for 3/0, the nearest pixel on the smallest image would be x / 4, y / 4, rounded down. That means, 3/0 would poke 0/0 in the image.
16:49 <Cepheid> 8/5 would pick 2/1 from the image, and so on.
16:50 <Cepheid> A linear filter, meanwhile, is a two-pass system that is, relatively speaking, much slower. Because it blends pixels together to try and smooth things out.
16:50 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'm being dragged away to go shopping for some boots.
16:50 <Cepheid> So I gotta run and take a shower.
16:51 <Schism> Ah, new boots. Not a bad plan.
16:52 * Schism nodnods, and also notes, "Make sure you drink something hot before ya get out there."
17:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #69 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8sua4kt ]
17:06 <Cepheid> Not complaining, as it's a good suggestion, but I am curious, what makes you suggest that? I have one conclusion as to why, but I want to hear your thoughts first. :P
17:18 <Schism> Because it's freakin' cold.
17:19 * Schism shrugs, just had shower to wake up the rest of the way.
17:23 <Cepheid> I was more under the impression it had to do with my complaints of feeling dehydrated early in the morning and such.
17:23 <Schism> Ah, nah. Though food and drink are certainly better there.
17:30 *** Quits: Cyan_Spark (Cyan_Spark@sparks.only.last.so.long) (Quit: September Blue, Thy sorrows be forgotten...)
17:37 * Schism obtains the achievement "Da Ba Dee V".
17:40 *** Joins: Quill-Swirl (Nyah@Pony-jaks4r.res.rr.com)
17:44 *** Joins: Stormspark (stormspark@Pony-25m.dcd.98.172.IP)
18:09 *** Joins: cabbage (cabbage@Pony-ftdnse.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com)
18:10 *** Joins: DashedRainbows (uid13850@is.a.pretty.pony)
18:10 *** Quits: totient (quassel@Pony-tr49gi.qiab.vj8s.004a.2601.IP) (The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.)
18:11 <DashedRainbows> good afternoon, small horses
18:15 <Thelema5> Hi DashedRainbows
18:15 <DashedRainbows> yo.
18:18 * Schism yawns, and boops DashedRainbows with some chocolate cranberry oatmeal cookies.
18:19 <DashedRainbows> yay!
18:19 * DashedRainbows licks Schism happily
18:21 <Cepheid> Amazon reminded me of something that may be a problem, gaming wise, for me.
18:21 <Schism> Oh?
18:22 <Cepheid> February 5th, Etrian Odyssey X is being released state-side. I have it pre-ordered through them, and they e-mailed me to advise me that my order's been upgraded to release-day delivery.
18:22 <Cepheid> Gauranteed delivery.
18:22 <Schism> Aha. You already feel the pull.
18:22 <Cepheid> Why that's an issue is because on the 31st of January, another anticipated game is released.
18:23 <Cepheid> Also, apparently EOX is the last EO game on the 3DS.
18:23 <Cepheid> Either the series is done, or they're moving to Switch next.
18:23 <Schism> Or mobile.
18:23 <Schism> Though that seems less likely, heh.
18:23 <Cepheid> I'd expect Nintendo would want to keep it to the Switch.
18:23 <Cepheid> And there's a way it can be done.
18:23 <Schism> True. Plenty of ways, really.
18:23 <Schism> Anyway, what's the other game?
18:24 <Cepheid> Dragon Marked for Death.
18:24 <Schism> Ah, you mentioned you were playing the demo there.
18:25 <Cepheid> Not a demo, but rather, watching the devs play a pre-release demo.
18:25 <Cepheid> Hence why I have knowledge of the game.
18:25 <Cepheid> That said, some people already have access to the game.
18:25 <Cepheid> Most of them V-tubers or Lets-Players.
18:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Note: The MLP Season 9 Leaks Are Not Real [ http://tinyurl.com/ycz7s2p5 ]
18:26 <Schism> Aha.
18:26 *** Joins: SunsetShimmer (DJPon3IsHer@Pony-rvd7gb.as43234.net)
18:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o SunsetShimmer
18:27 <Cepheid> Also the history of the four characters has been revealed.
18:27 * Schism rolls over and boops SunsetShimmer with a cup of strong tea, and some cinnamon scones.
18:27 <Cepheid> They're all basically members of the Dragon Village who went out to do stuff.
18:27 <Cepheid> While they were out, the Big Bads come along and kill everyone, women and children alike.
18:27 <Cepheid> And kidnap one of them.
18:27 <Schism> Ah. o3o;
18:27 * SunsetShimmer casually doses Schism with more G-virus! =D
18:28 * Schism takes an antidote brewed from the blood of Nemesis.
18:28 <SunsetShimmer> Goshdangit. xD
18:28 <Cepheid> As for why the extermination, turns out in ages past, a battle between a Holy Being and Dragon God occurred. The Dragon Village, in return for their devotion, was placed under the Dragon God's protection. Dragon God loses the war. But the village survives, etc.
18:28 <Schism> Would you believe I've never played an RE game?
18:29 <Cepheid> That said, because of the schism(>.>) between both sides, the Dragon Village folk are persecuted, etc, etc, etc.
18:29 * Schism also hmms, and nodnods. "And now the Holy Being wants to finish the job..."
18:29 <Cepheid> Typical tropes, more or less.
18:29 <Cepheid> But then, the entire Megaman series is tropified as hell, X, Zero and ZX series included, so it's not unexpected.
18:29 <Cepheid> It's the tropes that seem to appeal to people, outside of the gameplay.
18:30 <Schism> Nothing wrong with a good, trope-filled story. Heck, trying to avert every trope is just as bad.
18:30 <Cepheid> Which itself seems interesting as the characters are basically what you'd expect in an RPG squad. DPS, Tank, Magic.
18:30 <Cepheid> Healing, etc.
18:30 <Cepheid> So playing one character, by yourself, is likely to invite trouble. Or having an entire team comprised of one character.
18:31 <Schism> Hopefully it'll at least be possible.
18:31 <Cepheid> The Witch seems to be the most at a disadvantage, combat-wise. She's powerful, but it comes at the cost of having to STOP MOVING.
18:31 <Cepheid> You stop moving, engage a magic circle, then follow up with button presses that represent simple syllables "Pi" "Pu" "Hi" "Hu" and so on.
18:32 <Schism> Corp Por!
18:32 <Schism> But yea.
18:32 <Cepheid> The syllables you use define a part of the spell.
18:32 *** Joins: Ali (Ali@Pony-cvibue.iplsin.sbcglobal.net)
18:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
18:32 <Cepheid> You can follow up with further enhancements, engaged in the same way.
18:32 <Schism> Basically, similar to a fighting game's input system.
18:32 <Cepheid> For example, Ice, Empower, Empower, Condense.
18:32 <Cepheid> Creates a giant ice block to appear and slam down on enemies.
18:32 <Ali> Sounds like Magika
18:33 <Cepheid> Except each section of the spell is a separate sequence of syllables.
18:33 <Schism> Or, of course, Mantorok Pargon Narokath Santak Pargon.
18:33 <Cepheid> So the more effects applied, the longer you're standing there.
18:33 * Schism nods. Also, boops Ali with a new train UI.
18:33 <Cepheid> Thus, she's better in a team environment. Preferably with a tank and DPS to control aggro and defenses.
18:33 * DashedRainbows licks Ali
18:34 <Cepheid> And the sequences aren't short, either.
18:34 <Cepheid> The devs were going through 'em rapidly, likely due to experience over time while testing.
18:34 <Schism> Definitely the sort of thing which will demand practice.
18:34 <Cepheid> But the sequences were like, four to eight separate syllables.
18:34 <Cepheid> For each segment.
18:35 <Schism> That's a kind of magic system you rarely see in games.
18:35 <Cepheid> Yeah.
18:35 <Cepheid> Hence why I'm gonna be going Witch. I'm curious.
18:35 * Ali squeaks twice
18:36 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, the rest of the classes... The Empress seems to be the all-rounder. Moderate ranged attack, strong melee, can be used for aggro management or damage.
18:36 <Schism> You getting all four classes to start, or just two?
18:36 <Cepheid> I'm getting all 4.
18:36 <Cepheid> The Ninja/Shinobi is raw DPS. Little in the way of defenses, but excellent damage overall, and very fast. Also agile. Seems to rely a lot on evasion.
18:37 <Schism> Seems the de facto solo character.
18:37 <Cepheid> The tank, I forget the class name. He's literally that, a tank. He can put up a barrier that protects against all damage.
18:37 <Cepheid> And it protects anyone within it, or behind it.
18:37 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, his attacks appear to be sluggish, but when they land, they hit hard.
18:37 <Cepheid> And judging from some of the bosses I've seen? May be a critical character.
18:38 <Cepheid> Cthulhu, definitely classifies as boss that would require him.
18:38 <Cepheid> The tentacles have an water spray attack that seems all but impossible to dodge.
18:39 <Cepheid> Might be some barriers that weren't shown that one can hide behind, but it seems more like the best approach is to rely on the tank to put up that barrier to negate the attack.
18:40 <Cepheid> Right, today's coding... PNG library work. Could have sworn I had an application with a PNG class implemented. *Checks*
18:41 * SunsetShimmer nibbles Ali! >:D
18:41 * Ali squeaks louder!
18:42 * SunsetShimmer gigglesnorts
18:44 <Cepheid> If I had a class, it's gone.
18:44 <DashedRainbows> squeaky horse!
18:44 <SunsetShimmer> she's in need of an oil change. :P
18:44 <Cepheid> So I'll just have to re-implement. Fortunately, no specialty stuff needed. I just need to make sure that all inputs are expanded to 32-bit RGBA.
18:45 <Cepheid> Schism, I just discovered this game that might be of interest to you: https://inmostgame.com/
18:47 *** Quits: Fn (Eogan@Pony-hf5e74.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Nothing is static, everything is evolving, everything is falling apart)
18:51 <Schism> Hmmm, another Chucklefish production, that's always good.
18:52 <Schism> Well, that does indeed look good.
18:54 <Cepheid> I spotted it on a "20 games being released on Switch in 2019." video.
18:54 <Cepheid> Caught my interest with the dark style.
18:54 * Schism nodnods.
18:54 <Ali> Not Metroid Prime 4
18:54 <Cepheid> Also, because it looks like the dev uses the same approach.
18:54 <Cepheid> Yes, Ali, I'm aware already.
18:54 <Ali> I'm sure that game is still a few years out
18:54 <Cepheid> It's unfortunate that the Namco build was scrapped, but if Retro was taken in to do it..
18:54 <Cepheid> I'm good.
18:55 <Ali> As long as its not done in the style of Other M
18:55 * Ali shutters
18:55 <Schism> Hah. Bill Maher did another rant last night about how a certain generation (which rhymes with 'schmennial') is still jumping in ball pits, reading comic books, playing video games, and all that, instead of getting down to business, buying a house, and starting a family.
18:55 <Cepheid> I liked Other M for the gameplay. Story was bland. But I won't get any further into that.
18:55 <Cepheid> Since it's a controversial game.
18:56 <Ali> Cepheid, but the baby
18:56 * Ali shot
18:56 <Cepheid> Ali, no.
18:56 <Cepheid> Please don't argue with me about it.
18:56 <Ali> Oh I'm not arguing
18:56 <Cepheid> You know what'll happen. :P
18:56 <Cepheid> Heh. :P
18:56 <Ali> I'm poking fun at it
18:56 <Ali> I wasn't a fan of Other M
18:56 <Schism> Heh, you want an argument, we could get into the latest kerfuffle about Assassin's Creed Odyssey's DLC.
18:57 <Cepheid> Schism: Meanwhile, I think I got an "understanding" of those crazy folks who say we should be working 80-hour work weeks to be successful. It may just be in the manner they express it, 'cause to be honest, I feel like I'm doing it unintentionally, myself.
18:57 <Ali> Or just Fallout 76 in general
18:57 <Schism> Though I think most people here would agree with my own assessment.
18:57 <Cepheid> I spend 40+ hours working on school, for example, as is.
18:57 <Cepheid> But then, here I am on the weekends, putting hours and hours into my project.
18:57 <Cepheid> Hours I don't spend during the weekdays because I put in anywhere from 8 to 10 hours on school. I'm usually left too exhausted to do any more work.
18:57 <Schism> Cepheid: Yeah, but you're doing that to better yourself, and by choice, instead of being stuck in a rut.
18:58 <Cepheid> But at the same time, while I'm putting hours into my project?
18:58 <Schism> Well, forced into a rut, I should say.
18:58 <Cepheid> It doesn't feel like work now.
18:58 <Schism> As they say, do what you love...
18:58 <Cepheid> It looks like work, it practically *IS* work.
18:58 <Cepheid> But it is enjoyable.
18:58 <Cepheid> There's the other 30-40 hours of an 80-hour work week.
18:58 <Cepheid> You spend your 40 hours working on your day-to-day job, but the rest is personal work stuff in which you expand your skills, knowledge, and enjoyment.
18:59 <Cepheid> Which itself can take up hours and hours, and look like work from the outside, when to you, it isn't.
18:59 <Cepheid> I'm wondering if that's what these people who talk of 80-hour workweeks are referring to, but just not expressing correctly.
18:59 <Schism> No, I'm afraid they're definitely not. They are, however, referring to entrepreneurship, which is a nasty business.
18:59 <Cepheid> True.
19:00 <Cepheid> But I wonder if I am comparable to them, in a sense.
19:00 <Cepheid> I am putting a lot of work into what I'm doing now.
19:00 <Schism> Additionally, the belief that one should sacrifice one's current time to prepare for retirement -- you know, work yourself to death at 35 in hopes of having a nest egg by 65.
19:00 <Cepheid> That said, I'd be a fool in comparison to such thinkers.
19:00 <Cepheid> My project right now? I'm planning to release it for free.
19:00 <Schism> Heh. Doing what you love is never a waste.
19:01 <Cepheid> The only gains I'll earn are in terms of recognition of skill, demonstrations and the like, or..
19:01 <Cepheid> Donations, from people who *WANT* to donate to see something to the end, or to help in their own way.
19:01 <Cepheid> That in mind, this is why I am hesitant to take you, ADra and Librarian on as teammates/helpers.
19:01 <Cepheid> I have nothing guaranteed to offer you all.
19:02 <Cepheid> At least, financially.
19:02 <Schism> Pf, that's not why we're offering. :P
19:02 <Cepheid> Eh.
19:02 <Cepheid> It just feels wrong to accept help and give nothing back.
19:02 <Ali> At least he doesn't beg for it like some youtubers do
19:02 <Cepheid> But that's why I've devised some stuff to offer.
19:02 <Schism> You mean other than putting the fruits of our labors into reality?
19:02 <Ali> Ugh every video PLZ SUBSCRIBE AND PAY ME
19:02 <Schism> s/putting/bringing*
19:02 <Cepheid> Namely, the three of you, and future helpers, you've a choice among stuff I've come up with.
19:03 * Ali brushies Cepheid
19:03 <Cepheid> You can have a character of some sort central to the stuff. Be it design a boss, it's attacks, and give it a name. An NPC who can be encountered, etc.
19:03 <Cepheid> Or you can have a skeleton of an explorer who either A) Provides a hint, or B) Provides random commentary about something.
19:04 <Cepheid> In any case, you will be in the credits for your assistance. Any name can be chosen.
19:04 <Ali> hey Cepheid do you think you can explain why this happened? And don't say its because its Fallout 76
19:04 <Cepheid> But this only applies to people who do something constructive to help me. You can't just ask for an insert or anything. If you do ask, I'd appreciate it if you could justify it.
19:04 <Ali> https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007206389/screenshot/961981476965621177
19:04 <Cepheid> Could be a number of reasons.
19:05 <Cepheid> But it's most likely related to physics or graphics rendering.
19:05 <Cepheid> Probably both. If I had to guess..
19:05 <Cepheid> Somehow, the skull got detached from the "skeleton".
19:05 <Ali> I mean its hillarious
19:05 <Cepheid> And defaulted to a standard T-pose position.
19:05 <Cepheid> Usually that would happen because some memory got cleared somewhere.
19:06 <Schism> Oh, yeah. That's generally a skeleton clinging to a head which should probably have been ragdolled.
19:06 <Cepheid> Probably a joint in the skeleton lost track of the skeleton or another joint it was attached to.
19:06 <Schism> Er, not ragdolled, gibbed.
19:07 <Cepheid> If anything, it was likely in the physics engine, meaning it is *NOT* Bethesda's fault.
19:07 <Cepheid> Unless Bethesda coded the physics engine. But in such a large game, that is unlikely.
19:07 <Cepheid> They likely called upon PhysX, or some other physics engine.
19:07 <Schism> I've seen the like from deformed skeletons in, for example, Skyrim mods. I've also incorrectly installed mods and seen skeletons removed, which turned the opening cutscene into sheerest madness.
19:08 <Cepheid> By the way, I apologize if I'm talking a lot. I don't know *WHAT* is doing it, but I am extremely hyper and in a very good mood.
19:08 <Schism> Heh, it's the weekend, it's... kinda sunny, and you've been pretty good for the past few days, with your meds.
19:09 <Cepheid> Oh, I've had an episode actually, but that was resolved in a proper location for a change.
19:09 <Cepheid> That night I got agitated at all the *YAY* going on with weather and busses, I had a breakdown in front of my psychiatrist.
19:09 <Cepheid> So it isn't sunny smiles all day, but... yeah. I feel better.
19:09 <Ali> Best place for it
19:09 <Schism> That really is the best place to have one, kinda like, "If you're gonna get hit by a car, might as well do it in front of a hospital."
19:10 <Cepheid> This feels like my manic episodes, but at the same time, I'm not feeling all sort of "I can do anything! I can do everything! Nothing can stop me!" about it.
19:10 <Cepheid> More, it's like "Okay, this is happening, how can I fix it or resolve it?"
19:10 <Cepheid> Rather than "Okay, this is happening, I've tried (what I think) is everything, so now I'm going to assume I'm just not good enough to do this."
19:11 <Cepheid> That said, I still have a lot of energy.
19:12 <Cepheid> So I talk a lot, I analyze a lot, I think a lot, I can't slow it down.
19:12 <Cepheid> The only reason it concerns me is that I have annoyed people with such behaviour in the past.
19:15 <Schism> Eh, we're not like to complain terribly. Beats the heck out of an empty channel, or you being depressed.
19:17 <Cepheid> Heh.
19:17 <Cepheid> Still say that it's weird to be in the state I'm in. It feels way too distinct from how I used to be.
19:17 <Cepheid> Even the breakdown from the other night felt different from the usual cases.
19:18 <Schism> Eh, 'weird' doesn't have to be 'bad'.
19:22 *** Tempo is now known as Tempo-AFK
19:23 <Cepheid> Of course.
19:23 <Cepheid> I'm just saying that it feels heavily "different"
19:23 <Cepheid> I'm not used to it.
19:24 * Schism nods, "And that's a bit of added stress in and of itself. I get it, definitely."
19:26 <Cepheid> Yes, but *THAT* is under control by the fact that it is a positive effect.
19:27 *** Joins: JonTheVGNerd (JonTheVGNer@Pony-48j.p7d.45.70.IP)
19:32 *** Joins: HyperDash (HyperDash@Pony-obvko9.wa.comcast.net)
19:36 * Schism offers Thelema5 some fried cheddar, wrapped around melted mozzarella and 'bacon' bits.
19:39 <Cepheid> You might say I feel like... a fearless challenger. *Gets shot for La-Mulana reference.*
20:00 <Cepheid> It's the headphones. The headphones are causing my headache.
20:00 <Cepheid> I thought it'd be cool enough that the headphones wouldn't overheat my head, but..
20:01 <Cepheid> Wearing them causes me to get headaches. Taking them off causes the headaches to subside.
20:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2874 [ http://tinyurl.com/ydd2oyeu ]
20:10 *** Joins: PinkieShy (coolm@Pony-ck81je.67-212-45-net.sccoast.net)
20:10 <Cepheid> The libpng library has gotten considerably easier to use as of late.
20:11 <Cepheid> 12 lines of code to load a PNG, forcing anything other than 32-bit RGBA to be converted to 32-bit RGBA.
20:19 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy til he's dripping
20:20 <PinkieShy> hihi :D
20:20 * DashedRainbows barks
20:20 <DashedRainbows> Yo.
20:20 <Cepheid> Got image loading in place. Just need to implement conversion into a texture.
20:21 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, the texture class is set up in such a way that it uses no backing store. It was designed this way, for a separate project, so I need to alleviate that issue.
20:22 <Cepheid> Mm. That'd work in the interim, and actually reduces any sort of dependencies, among other issues.
20:27 <Cepheid> I need a 640x480 test image.
20:27 <Cepheid> Any suggestions?
20:32 <Cepheid> Nevermind, just looked one up.
20:33 *** Quits: Quill-Swirl (Nyah@Pony-jaks4r.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
20:33 <Finwe> o3o
20:34 *** Joins: Quill-Swirl (Nyah@Pony-jaks4r.res.rr.com)
20:44 <Cepheid> Hum.
20:44 <Cepheid> The upside down image I understand, 'cause GL. The wrong colours is a mystery, though.
20:46 <Cepheid> Hmm.
20:48 <Cepheid> How unusual.
20:48 <Cepheid> Reading in the PNG as ABGR instead of RGBA fixes the colour issue. So is it the pointer data type causing the issues?
20:53 * ADragonDreaming serves the function of a rubber duck
20:54 * Sleeping_Nightmares mewls at Finwe and snugglies into
20:57 * DashedRainbows licks Quill-Swirl
20:58 * Quill-Swirl smiles from the lick
20:59 <Cepheid> Hmm.
20:59 <Cepheid> In memory, it's being arranged properly.
21:02 <Cepheid> So it's OpenGL being stupid.
21:03 * DashedRainbows wags her tail and barks at Quill-Swirl
21:03 *** Quits: JonTheVGNerd (JonTheVGNer@Pony-48j.p7d.45.70.IP) (Connection closed)
21:04 <Cepheid> Ah.
21:09 *** Joins: SamShmuck (SamShmuck@Pony-0854uq.fios.verizon.net)
21:10 *** SamShmuck is now known as Tempo
21:11 *** Joins: JonTheVGNerd (JonTheVGNer@Pony-48j.p7d.45.70.IP)
21:12 *** Quits: Tempo-AFK (SamShmuck@Pony-0854uq.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
21:14 *** Quits: RyuImperator (RyuImperato@Pony-dgk5vo.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Connection closed)
21:26 <Cepheid> Almost there.
21:26 *** Quits: Tempo (SamShmuck@Pony-0854uq.fios.verizon.net) (Connection closed)
21:27 *** Joins: Tempo (SamShmuck@Pony-0854uq.fios.verizon.net)
21:41 <Cepheid> Good news. Got my tiles rendering. Bad news, it uses a slower approach, but it works for now, so..
21:41 <ADragonDreaming> eggcellent
21:45 * ADragonDreaming heads out after Zorah Magdaros
21:55 <Cepheid> 3 star quest?
22:12 *** Joins: Personifire (Tilde@Pony-mkc226.dgbc.9fgu.6000.2605.IP)
22:12 <ADragonDreaming> The first attempt to capture it.
22:13 <ADragonDreaming> Which is 4 star
22:14 <Ali> Welp, this game just proved that the AI has no sense of fuel conservation
22:23 * JonTheVGNerd flops
22:36 * Ali brushies JonTheVGNerd
22:36 * JonTheVGNerd is brushied, allows this
22:41 *** Sleeping_Nightmares is now known as Surreal_Nightmares
22:41 *** Joins: Changeling_Nightmares (Surreal@Cutest.Floofy.Changeling.Batpone)
22:42 *** Changeling_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
22:42 * Filly_Nightmares meows at JonTheVGNerd and uses him as a bed
22:42 * JonTheVGNerd snugs to Filly_Nightmares, lets her lay onto him
22:43 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and chews on Ali
22:43 * Ali squeaks and hugs Filly_Nightmares
22:43 * Filly_Nightmares purrrrrrrrr and warms Ali!
23:01 * SunsetShimmer brushies ali
23:01 * Ali mewls and leans into SunsetShimmer brushies
23:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: Equinoxially Curious / Plus One / AOS #3.12 / ATN #4 [ http://tinyurl.com/yaatou8z ]
23:39 *** Quits: Filly_Nightmares (Surreal@Cutest.Floofy.Changeling.Batpone) (Quit: The only things I need are books, friends and IRC. And books.)
23:46 *** Quits: SunsetShimmer (DJPon3IsHer@DJ.Wub.Wub) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
23:50 *** Quits: danwellby (Daniel_well@when.hell.freezes.over) (Connection closed)
23:59 *** Quits: JonTheVGNerd (JonTheVGNer@Pony-48j.p7d.45.70.IP) (Connection closed)
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.14.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
