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00:15 <LibrarianofHope> im very stressed
00:15 <LibrarianofHope> no idea why
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00:15 <ADragonDreaming> take slow, regular breaths.
00:16 <LibrarianofHope> owo
00:17 <Schism> Oh dear. https://games.increpare.com/Gestalt_OS/
00:19 <ADragonDreaming> I don't understand.
00:20 <Schism> You're not supposed to, at the beginning.
00:22 <SunsetShimmer> https://twitter.com/I_always_know/status/1090383811039375360 - I love Mr X memes. xD
00:24 <LibrarianofHope> kingdom hearts 3 finally came out today
00:24 <LibrarianofHope> 14 years owo
00:25 <SunsetShimmer> 2 heavy hitting games released mere days of eachother
00:25 <SunsetShimmer> good start to the year
00:26 <LibrarianofHope> wut was the other one?
00:26 <SunsetShimmer> Resident Evil 2 - where my link originates from
00:29 <LibrarianofHope> i wanna watch my bro play kingdom hearths
00:31 * Cepheid has already completed Leon's story in RE2.
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00:57 <Schism> Cepheid: You should try that game I linked.
01:00 <Cepheid> I bookmarked it. Remind me after Thursday to check it out.
01:05 * Schism nodnods.
01:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #71 [ http://tinyurl.com/ya6v748v ]
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01:33 <Eugene> Test.
01:33 <Eugene> Anypony alive in here?
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01:51 <Vulpor> Howdy all
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03:36 <Thelema5> Gaaaah. There's more than a foot of snow outside, and it's still falling :|
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04:12 <Finwe> Gaaah, Mr Thelema5.
04:12 * Finwe doffs his hat.
04:12 <Finwe> Oh, and good morning, everypony.
04:13 <Finwe> It's still snowing. o3o
04:13 <Finwe> Although I'm not sure whether we've got a whole foot of fresh snow yet.
04:13 <Finwe> Might be close to that.
04:15 * Finwe noms on Filly_Nightmares's tail.
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05:00 <Finwe> Miss DashedRainbows.
05:00 * Finwe doffs his macroeconomic calculations.
05:01 * DashedRainbows also licks Finwe
05:01 * Finwe places Thelema5 as a unit of labour in the Solow-Swan model of closed economies.
05:04 * DashedRainbows nibbles on Finwe's top hat
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06:39 <PinkieShy> Blugh..
06:40 <PinkieShy> I think i need to make an appointment with my dr and start the very very long process of.. Probably xrays and such..
06:40 <PinkieShy> my back is still hurting.. Right now it is.. But when i wake up and for a few hours after.. Its not.
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06:53 <PinkieShy> Maybe its sitting... :/ Either way getting it checked would be wise..
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07:08 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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07:14 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali. :P
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07:18 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys
07:18 <RazorSharpFang> I've clipped off a big of a Succulent Jade and I'm hoping it'll grow in the pot I've put it in.
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07:22 * Finwe throws a snowball at Ali.
07:22 <Finwe> o3o
07:22 * Ali is already in a frozen block, she doesn't feel it
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08:31 * Ali would lean into the pets, but she's frozen due to how cold it is here.
08:32 * Filly_Nightmares uses ConfusionRift as a bed of warms
08:34 <Finwe> Looks like it's not snowing that much anymore.
08:34 * ConfusionRift pets Filly_Nightmares. :P
08:34 * Finwe shapes Ali into a snowmare.
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09:25 * Filly_Nightmares yawnskrees at Finwe
09:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fashion Squad Single Equestria Girls Mini Dolls Revealed at Toys R' Us [ http://tinyurl.com/y8qdnbpn ]
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10:55 * Schism wakes up. Blinks! "6 AM. I think I'm back on schedule."
10:56 <Finwe> I woke up a bit before 6 AM. o3o
11:01 <Schism> Still need coffee, but that's easy. o3o
11:03 <Finwe> Coffee? D:
11:03 * Finwe shudders from the mere thought of someone consuming that revolting liquid.
11:05 * Schism notes, "Extra-strong!"
11:06 * Finwe watches software being compiled.
11:06 <Finwe> Almost as interesting as watching paint dry.
11:09 <Schism> https://xkcd.com/303/
11:12 <Schism> Dunno why, but for some reason I want to play Skyrim again.
11:13 <Schism> I never get far in the main quest, though, because I keep getting sucked in by the innumerable sidequests. (Gotta become Thane of every hold.)
11:14 <Finwe> And have a house in every town.
11:14 <Schism> And several outside the towns, yes.
11:14 <Finwe> And become Archmage. o3o
11:14 <Schism> But of course! Though I'm playing with Perkus Maximus -- Archmage may not be right for this playthrough.
11:15 * Schism is going with a light armored Redguard, sword and shield, but sneaky too.
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11:22 <Finwe> I played Altmer spellsword.
11:22 <Schism> I hope you killed everyone in the Thalmor Embassy. o3o
11:25 <Finwe> I tried to sneak through it, but I was seen eventually and some havoc ensued.
11:26 <Schism> Why would you sneak? If you're an Altmer, you can just tell everyone you belong there, and nobody will question it.
11:27 <Schism> Well, if you actually wear the robes.
11:27 <Schism> And then you can follow the Embassy staff into corners and murder them all. o3o
11:27 <Schism> (Probably not the latter.)
11:28 <Finwe> I was part of the Stormcloak rebellion, and wearing a dragon armour. o3o
11:30 <Schism> Ah, you joined that side early then. o5o
11:31 <Finwe> Well, in the very beginning, you either get invitation to join the Imperial Legion or Stormcloaks.
11:31 <Filly_Nightmares> /me mewls at Finwe and Schism
11:32 <Finwe> I started by travelling to Whiterun, after which I met Ulfric in Windhelm.
11:32 <Finwe> Miss Filly_Nightmares.
11:32 * Finwe doffs his hat.
11:32 <Schism> I know, but I usually put off the political stuff for a while as I do the assorted sidequests.
11:32 * Schism snugs the Filly_Nightmares and offers some orange-roll cookies wif icing!
11:33 <Finwe> I started a new game in order to get the two remaining achievements.
11:33 <Finwe> And joined Imperial Legion this time.
11:33 <Schism> I've so many mods on the game that I can't really /get/ achievements. X3
11:33 <Schism> Well, I probably can with the MSQ, but yeah.
11:33 * Filly_Nightmares mewls at Schism and nomfs her cookies
11:34 * Schism also pours warm tea and cuddles into floof.
11:34 * Filly_Nightmares nosies Schism onto his back and uses his chest and belly as a bed
11:34 <Finwe> I didn't get Oblivion Walker because I refused to eat the priest from Morthall and I destroyed Vermina's staff.
11:34 * Filly_Nightmares mewls at Finwe and uses him as a blanket
11:34 * Finwe is warm and cosy.
11:35 <Schism> Finwe: No reason you can't just do those two real quick and then load the previous save. Buuuut yeah.
11:35 * Filly_Nightmares purrs happily and clutches Schism and yawnskrees
11:35 * Schism patpats the floof, and also provides more blankets.
11:35 <Finwe> To successfully get the achievement you can only miss one Daedric artifact.
11:36 <Schism> Then I suggest nomming on a little priest. o3o
11:36 <Schism> ("Is it really good?" "Sir, it's too good, at least!")
11:37 <Finwe> Actually none, but the game counts both the ring and the cuirass from Hircine.
11:37 <Finwe> So if you get both, you can skip one of the other Daedric quests.
11:37 <Schism> I know, a bug which probably should get fixed, but ah well.
11:39 * Filly_Nightmares murrs and goes sleepies on Schism. She snugglies Finwe closer for warms and purrs
11:39 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini!
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11:39 <Sleeping_Nightmares> I wuv you!
11:39 * Schism patpats, "Sleep well!"
11:47 <Schism> An Arkansas man was arrested on charges of attempted grand theft plane, as he tried to fly an American Eagle plane off the strip to an out of state concert. He had no training as a pilot, and thought that piloting it would involve nothing more than pushing buttons and pulling levers.
12:00 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:00 <Schism> Mornin'.
12:00 * Schism offers Cepheid a cup of half-caff coffee.
12:01 <Schism> Weird dreams again. This time, a double-wedding and a murder mystery in 1900s Edmonton where time travelers have been meddling.
12:01 <Schism> Haven't even been watching Murdoch Mysteries. Yeesh.
12:04 <Cepheid> Hah.
12:05 <Schism> Oh, a double arranged wedding, I note. For some reason that part stuck in my mind.
12:05 <Cepheid> The trending topic ThingsIWouldBan. #ThingsIWouldBan - me, on Twitter.
12:05 <Schism> #ThingsIWouldBan: Hmm, let's say... Chris Roberts.
12:07 <RazorSharpFang> As it happens, things that are banned oft still do happen.
12:11 <Cepheid> Indeed.
12:11 <Cepheid> Plans for the day... Discrete maths. Periodic studies of Japanese.
12:11 * Schism just... yup. https://twitter.com/CORSAIR/status/1088199514819768320
12:12 <Schism> (Hat-tip Nall in #techponies.)
12:16 <Schism> Hmm. Recipe calls for orange rind. Do not have oranges. Have orange juice, and a lemon.
12:16 * Schism considers, then decides that lemon rind will work as a suitable replacement.
12:18 <Cepheid> That tweet doesn't apply to just Chrome in my opinion. It applies to all browsers.
12:19 <Schism> True; Firefox is particularly notorious for nomming on RAM too.
12:20 <Cepheid> Also that behaviour is due to education mentality, if you ask me. Professors in college encouraged just taking whatever resources you needed.
12:20 <Finwe> The memory usage seems to be around 4 gigabytes, leaving 10 gigabytes free.
12:20 <Finwe> The other machine has 16 gigabytes.
12:21 <Schism> Cepheid: It's frightening, isn't it? So many programs today which require top-of-the-art boxen could just as easily run on computers of a decade ago, if not for poor coding.
12:21 <Cepheid> Its because to help performance and snappiness, many browsers keep previous pages in memory, visual buffers and all. Some even go so far as to seek ahead a bit. That is, examine the page for any links and load parts of pages ahead of time.
12:21 <Schism> Er, I mean state-of-the-line.
12:22 <Schism> Yeah.
12:22 <Cepheid> In the case of tools like photoshop, it is understandable.
12:22 <Cepheid> And CAD or 3D modelling software.
12:23 <Finwe> All my computers are about a decade old. o3o
12:23 <Schism> Oh, certainly. When you're running rendering software, that's the only thing you're probably doing.
12:23 <Cepheid> Photoshop and art, it takes a lot due to larger image sizes compared to a decade ago. The layering systems don't help, depending on how they are implemented.
12:23 <Finwe> Except for the C64 and Amiga 500.
12:23 * Schism hasn't had a pot of *_COFFEE_* in a while. He can taste colours now.
12:23 <Cepheid> I had some coffee. I am craving an energy drink. But I know better.
12:24 <Schism> Cepheid: Hmm. Get a smoothie?
12:28 <Cepheid> I might just do that.
12:28 <Cepheid> And gaaaah. A person I walked by smelled of rotten eggs.
12:28 <Schism> Heh, working with sulfides perhaps?
12:29 <Cepheid> Who knows. The air tasted of it too.
12:30 <Schism> Definitely sulfides.
12:30 <Schism> Possibly the target of a stink bomb, heh.
12:38 <Schism> Hm, new version of MAME out.
12:39 <Schism> Heh. Some evenings: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyJRHlhWwAAFDxX.jpg:large
12:41 <Cepheid> One missing bus and 2 packed busses i couldn't get on. Doing a swell job this morning, OC.
12:44 <Cepheid> Finally
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12:46 <Schism> Quantic Dream, the spectacular developers behind such high-profile, AAA releases as Fahrenheit and Heavy Rain, are now threatening to end Playstation exclusivity and go to PC.
12:48 <Schism> The obvious response is "How much do we have to pay you to stick with SONY?"... from PC gamers.
12:48 <Cepheid> I'm shocked.
12:48 <Cepheid> ... PC gamers confuse me.
12:49 <Schism> I'm joking. :P Those games are known to be shockingly bad.
12:49 <Schism> Certainly, popular in a cringeworthy sense, like going to a B-movie just to make fun of it, but with an added feeling that the filmmaker is trying very, very hard to be deep and meaningful.
12:49 <Schism> Except that they're a few steps short of a David Lynch.
12:49 <Cepheid> Go around acting like bigshots, get upset when a game doesn't run well on PCs, and yet when a company wants to switch platforms? "LOL we don't want your garbage peasant."
12:51 <Schism> I was joking, yeesh. I don't think anyone's... well, plenty of folks are, but I'm not. Got no problem with developers wanting more stuff on the PC.
12:51 <Cepheid> Honestly the reason I want to develop on consoles is for the fun of doing so. The hardware is different from x86.
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12:51 <Cepheid> I'm not referring to you Schism.
12:51 * Schism offers RazorSharpFang a sausage roll with mustard.
12:52 <Cepheid> I was referring to the folks that call themselves "real gamers". You know. The assholes that push away anyone they deem inferior, be it due to gender, age group, console usage, or "because they aren't at their level."
12:53 <Schism> Ah yes.
12:53 <Schism> Or as TVTropes calls it, "Stop Having Fun Guys".
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12:54 <Cepheid> Yep
12:55 <Schism> Anyway. I giggle at the thought that Quantic Dream is trying to break away from an exclusivity deal, and SONY is like, "No, stop, come back." In that Gene Wilder way.
12:55 <Cepheid> Gaming isn't a hobby or something to do anymore. It's a JOB! A MANLY JOB! </Sarcasm>
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12:57 <Schism> And I'm just like, "...this is demeaning to us all."
12:59 <Cepheid> Honestly, sticking with one architecture gets boring after a while.
13:00 <Cepheid> Coming from a software dev, even if the language is the same across platforms, mechanics and behaviours change across platforms. Makes things more interesting because you then have to solve the problems in a different manner.
13:01 <Cepheid> And even within the same architecture, there can be differences.
13:01 <Cepheid> x86_64 Intel/AMD is distinct from the x86_64 in the PS4.
13:02 <Cepheid> Even though the processor is an Intel one, if I recall.
13:03 <Cepheid> Why? Memory. The PS4 usds GDDR5 memory if I recall the number correctly. This alone changes a lot. Furthermore, the device is an HSA system. The memory is used by both the CPU and GPU.
13:04 <Cepheid> It is possible for the CPU to directly modify the video ram and vice versa.
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13:15 <Cepheid> I really want to implement Conway's game of life. Do it on the CPU, then on the GPU with OpenGL. Then again with OpenCL. Compare the difficulties.
13:23 <Cepheid> So, I have a relatively complete coldness scale for clothing.
13:24 <Schism> Should be useful over the next week.
13:24 <Schism> Layers are your friend, of course.
13:25 <Cepheid> 10 to 0 degrees, long-sleeve shirt. -1 to -10, t-shirt and sweater. -11 to -20, t-shirt, sweater, spring coat(open). -21 or lower, same as the last, but the coat is closed. Beyond -30, I imagine would be winter coat.
13:26 <Schism> You have a seriously distorted sense of temperature. But then, we know that.
13:28 <Cepheid> My bedroom tends to be an extremophile room.
13:28 <Cepheid> So I adapted to it.
13:29 <Cepheid> Winter, my room is distressingly cold. Enough that even my computer can feel it.
13:29 <Cepheid> Summer, it is the warmest room in the house by far.
13:32 <Cepheid> Holy hell they put in new, functioning hand dryers in the UC mens washrooms.
13:32 <Schism> Wow. You mean they're actually making use of those matriculation fees?
13:35 <Cepheid> Oh they were using them. Far as I know, all the women's washrooms have had functioning high-performance hand dryers for the last 3 years in this building.
13:36 <Schism> ... too many jokes.
13:36 <Cepheid> Meanwhile the men's washrooms they took their time with. I blame the assholes who destriy the toilets on a regular basis.
13:36 <Cepheid> Seriously. Every few months a toilet is ripped off the wall and smashed to bits.
13:36 <Schism> Plus, guys are less likely to bring broken equipment in the restrooms to the attention of the faculty.
13:36 <Schism> Ugh.
13:37 <Cepheid> So that likely ate into the money for replacing the hand dryers that were busted or about as strong as a geriatric with asthma.
13:38 <Cepheid> Anyways back in a bit. Gonna move over to the comfy spots.
13:45 <Cepheid> Hum, do I get decent wi-fi here, or..?
13:45 <Cepheid> Looks like it.
13:46 <Schism> Ah good.
13:46 * Schism decides to make something with less caffeine for himself. "Green tea."
13:46 * Cepheid made a terrible, and stupid mistake.
13:46 <Cepheid> I convinced myself that needs must, but it still doesn't justify it in the long run.
13:46 <Cepheid> I drank an energy drink. >.>;
13:46 <Cepheid> We all know what happened the last time.
13:47 <Schism> Whoop...
13:47 <Schism> Well, perhaps things won't turn out quite so terribly this go-around.
13:47 * Schism also blinks at the remains of this tin of green tea. "...there's some matcha in the bottom of this container."
13:48 <Cepheid> I just need to keep the energy under control.
13:48 <Cepheid> That said, I think I identified the main thing I *DO* need to learn to control.
13:48 <Cepheid> I need to learn to tell myself to stop working, and that I need to recuperate.
13:49 * Schism nods, "Everything in moderation."
13:49 <Cepheid> Up until around 4-5 PM yesterday, I hadn't realized that I spent a week and a half working from the moment I wake up to the moment I sleep, even if gaming(Gaming isn't "relaxing" when you tense up and have to respond to things. It's relaxing in that it clears my head, but it still drains energy._
13:49 <Cepheid> I had work I had to do last night, but I told myself no, I'm going to lay down and get lots of sleep instead.
13:49 <Cepheid> I feel much better today for it.
13:55 <Cepheid> So, first things first, I need to set up a deck of words for Japanese. A selection of vocabulary words and such, for a quiz tomorrow.
14:01 <Cepheid> Fun note, I didn't need the teacher to teach me "kasa" for umbrella, or to look up the word in the dictionary or anything of the like, for one particular reason.
14:01 <Cepheid> And it's a silly reason.
14:01 <Cepheid> Kasa-obake. The umbrella youkai.
14:09 * Cepheid puts on the Dance of Midgard from LM2 and dances along Schism. As he dances, he follows a rough curve approximating Schism's body, and even dances upside down somehow, underneath him.
14:22 <Cepheid> Holy CRIPES man, take a shower! GAH!
14:22 <Schism> Hm. On the one hand, I can justify snaffling all the silver from Fort Dawnguard and selling it at a premium to get myself a nest egg of septims. On the other...
14:23 <Schism> Also, sheesh. ELFX makes this game really dark at night.
14:23 <Cepheid> Heh.
14:24 <Cepheid> I wonder if mods exist to add Flandre or Remilia scarlet to Skyrim.
14:24 <Cepheid> Alas, I don't see mods for it.
14:24 <Cepheid> I'd have to grab a mod, rig it for use, and import it myself.
14:24 <Schism> Not seeing them, sadly, yeah. Heh.
14:24 <Cepheid> Though to be honest, it'd probably be better to do something like..
14:25 <Cepheid> A player mod to appear as Remilia Scarlet, with a follower mod for Sakuya.
14:25 <Schism> Well, there are plenty of 'unique character model' mods which change their base appearance alone.
14:26 <Cepheid> Implementing such a mod would probably be relatively easy, to be honest. There exists a myriad of MMD and VRChat models of Remilia Scarlet and Sakuya. Would not be hard to take the models, modify them to fit the format for Skyrim, and use them.
14:27 <Schism> Meanwhile, replace the orc down in the library of the College of Winterhold with Patchouli Knowledge.
14:28 <Cepheid> Heh
14:28 <Cepheid> Turn the entire of Winterhold into the Scarlet Mansion.
14:28 <Schism> That would fit incredibly well.
14:28 <Cepheid> Of course, that'd be difficult.
14:28 <Schism> Oh, absolutely. But still...
14:28 <Cepheid> Since the mansion is presumed to be a non-euclidean place, for starters.
14:29 <Cepheid> From the basic depictions, the exterior appear as just an overly elaborate mansion.
14:29 <Schism> Ehhh, there are a few ways. After all, the College is comprised of a few different locations.
14:29 <Cepheid> But the interior doesn't seem to make any coherent sense.
14:29 <Cepheid> At least, in regards to the size of rooms. And yeah, there is that.
14:29 <Cepheid> Skyrim uses separate regions and zones to handle interior and exterior, so larger-on-the-inside is viable.
14:30 <Cepheid> I was gonna say that it would be impossible if it was an interconnected, open world with no loading screens between areas, and such.
14:30 <Cepheid> But it is possible.
14:30 * Schism nodnods. "And there can be multiple 'overlapping' maps on the inside, though you'd need to zone repeatedly."
14:30 <Cepheid> I know how it can be done.
14:30 <Schism> Hum, shower calls. BRB.
14:30 <Cepheid> Basically, all the rooms are hidden underneath the world. All their entrances are similar to that of Portal/Portal 2 portals.
14:31 <Cepheid> That is, logically, in the code, the doorway is a flat, black panel. But that panel uses render-to-texture to render the room "beyond" that flat panel.
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14:32 <Cepheid> Thus creating the illusion of an impossible geometry, when in reality, it's a bunch of disonnected geometries.
14:34 <Cepheid> ...
14:34 <Cepheid> Geezus cripes, why is this discrete structures 2 assignment so easy compared to previous attempts at this course?
14:46 <Schism> I'm guessing because a lot of things have clicked, and you're now building off an actual understanding of the priors.
14:48 * Schism sips his green tea, and nods. "Oversteeped, but not to excess - and the temperature was low enough that the grassy flavours aren't overwhelming."
14:55 <Schism> Heh. https://i.imgur.com/ZsiKcco.jpg
15:00 <Finwe> o3o
15:00 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony!
15:00 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
15:00 * Schism doffs his fishystick.
15:00 <Finwe> Mr Schism.
15:00 * Finwe doffs his headphones.
15:00 * Schism also doffs his sweetroll.
15:01 * Finwe also doffs his Leopard A1A1.
15:02 <Cepheid> I went on a kind of off-tangent-on-tangent rant on Twitter.
15:03 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1090626272915419136 It's about mental health, among other things.
15:03 <Cepheid> It's in regards to #BellLetsTalk and so on.
15:03 * Schism blinks, "Somehow, I'd neglected to follow you previously."
15:03 <Cepheid> Not much to follow on it.
15:03 <Cepheid> I use it mostly for art following.
15:03 <Schism> Heh, much like Choja's.
15:03 <Cepheid> So I retweet pictures of cats, art I like, and occasionally comment on stuff.
15:04 <Schism> Also, Bell's "Let's Talk" is good, to be sure.
15:04 <Cepheid> I have @andrewrdionne for other stuff, but I rarely use it because managing two twitter accounts is difficult without proper tools.
15:04 <Cepheid> I think it's @andrewrdionne anyways. o3o
15:04 <Cepheid> Yeah, it is.
15:04 <Schism> I should perhaps come up with a separate account myself, but like you said...
15:05 <Cepheid> There exist tools out there, I just need to find them, heh.
15:05 <Cepheid> But most are usually designed for single accounts.
15:05 <Schism> Also, that requires caring enough about Twitter to bother.
15:05 <Cepheid> As for my rant, feel free to read and comment on it if you wish. It's kind of all over the place, and in some cases, filled with rage.
15:06 <Schism> Already read, and yea.
15:06 <Schism> No arguments at all.
15:06 <Cepheid> Also gives some insight to some of my thought processes.
15:06 <Cepheid> I legitimately thought I was such a burden upon society through roundabout arguments.
15:07 <Cepheid> My parents insist that I employ social programs, regardless of how I am doing *NOW*, but I'm hesitant.
15:07 <Schism> Apropos of nothing, I am given to understand that a boot between the legs is severely painful no matter the sex.
15:07 <Cepheid> Heh.
15:08 <Cepheid> It's just I've never inquired about it with my mother or sister. Not a typical question to ask. :P
15:08 <Cepheid> I only know that it hurts considerably for men.
15:08 <Schism> Many, many nerve clusters.
15:09 <Schism> Heh, I'm reminded of the opening to Young Frankenstein, where the titular doctor knees a subject in the groin.
15:09 <Cepheid> Heh.
15:12 <Schism> Hum. Definitely going to make the dough for those orange cookies in a bit. Especially as they need to sit in the fridge for a few hours so that they can be cut.
15:13 <Schism> Cephy: Ever have those, by the way?
15:14 <Cepheid> Hmm. Determine the number of bitstrings of length 7 that have exactly 3 flips, specified at the 2nd and 3rd bits, 3rd and 4th bits, and 5th and 6th bits. That means one such pattern in question would be.... *01001*, which provides just one possible solution for that pattern. There are other patterns, though..
15:14 <Cepheid> Orange cookies? Can't say I have.
15:14 <Schism> Hm, if you have a copy of the Purity cookbook, I suggest making them sometime. Pretty simple all in all.
15:15 <Cepheid> Heh.
15:15 <Cepheid> The answer to the above question is exactly 2, due to the wording of the question.
15:16 <Cepheid> The pattern of bits that match it's requirements are: *01001* and *10110*. Thus, the only two sequences that work are: 0010011, and 1101100.
15:17 <Cepheid> Proof by exhaustion, in this case.
15:17 <Cepheid> Seriously, this is easy. How, and why? Is it because I no longer have to focus on keeping my mind under control from constant panic?
15:18 <Schism> That's probably a big part of it.
15:19 <Cepheid> That would basically aggravate my ADHD, wouldn't it?
15:19 <Schism> The inability to focus on one thing at a time? Yeah.
15:19 <Cepheid> "Okay, problem #3... ... ... Okay, I'm panicking, gotta go focus on that now. .... Okay, done, now where was I?"
15:20 <Cepheid> I still feel the twinge of panic, but it's not the same, though.
15:20 <Cepheid> ... Assuming it's panic.
15:20 <Cepheid> Feels like a wave of warmth and coldness going over my heart and stomach.
15:21 <Cepheid> It isn't as distracting though, since I can just work through it.
15:27 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THLQt8kNiX0
15:27 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Battlelore-Sons of Riddermark
15:32 <Cepheid> Out of curiousity, what's the story behind your nicknames? Mine is Cepheid, because I tend to be variable in nature. Personality/Persona can change rapidly depending on situation. My tastes in food and music change rapidly. I discuss topics rapidly, going from one to the next in related, rapid succession. And so on.
15:32 <Cepheid> The only constant is a core belief I can't mention here.
15:34 <Schism> Mine, well. My original handle was just a collection of syllables I thought sounded good. This one, well. I tend to have a penchant for finding and exposing faults, and occasionally causing arguments. Add a few other things, and here I am.
15:38 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZAKgeMzNF4
15:38 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
15:38 <RazorSharpFang> Mine is [Adjective-Adjective-Noun]
15:39 <ADragonDreaming> I like dragons.
15:39 <CocoPommel> Good morning everyone. Have a good day
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15:40 <Cepheid> You people and your simple names.
15:40 <Cepheid> That said, I have considered changing my nickname in recent weeks.
15:42 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about JACKIE 'O \/ SURVIVOR (EXTENDED)
15:42 <RazorSharpFang> It took derpy a while.
15:44 * Cepheid brute-forces the next question to determine the pattern, and then find a way to express it in terms of concepts taught.
15:45 <Cepheid> It seems a stupid way to do it, but honestly?
15:45 <ADragonDreaming> if it works
15:45 <Cepheid> Sometimes, visualizing the problem through brute-forcing reveals a patterm.
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15:46 <DashedRainbows> Howdy, horses
15:46 <Cepheid> For example, in this question, I've determined that when n >= 2, and k = 0, the answer is always 2. Always.
15:51 <Cepheid> 4 * (n - 1);
15:52 <Cepheid> That seems to be the pattern I've noticed thus far.
15:53 <ADragonDreaming> it is cold.
15:53 <Schism> It is.
15:53 * Schism slices up some lemon rind. "Hum... yes, this'll do."
15:54 <Cepheid> Hmm, no. The pattern is more complicated.
15:54 <Cepheid> But there *IS* a pattern.
15:57 <Cepheid> Hmm. I see something else.
16:00 <Cepheid> I can express this as a summation.
16:04 <Schism> Hum, there we go. Now to wrap this cookie dough in wax paper and let it sit for a few hours.
16:07 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Ptg5Mb2MQ Schism, recognize this at all?
16:07 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Space Cat - Power Up (Original Mix)
16:12 <Schism> Name sounds familiar, gimme a sec. I'm just finishing up this cookie dough.
16:12 <Cepheid> 17 students, 7 are female, 10 are male. Arrange them in a line such that no two female students are standing next to one another.
16:14 <ADragonDreaming> M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-M-M
16:14 <ADragonDreaming> Done.
16:14 <ADragonDreaming> alternate male and female and then you have three males at the end.
16:19 * ADragonDreaming heads out to expand ancient tree slots
16:20 <Cepheid> Not yet.
16:20 <Cepheid> The order of the students is important.
16:20 <Cepheid> Therefore, M1-F1 is not the same as M1-F2.
16:20 <Cepheid> I forgot to include that detail.
16:20 <Cepheid> In any case, the problem wasn't to find a solution. But to fix a provided, incorrect solution.
16:21 <Cepheid> Which I've done.
16:21 <Cepheid> Mmm. Actually, no. I didn't account for one scenario.
16:22 <Cepheid> I know what needs to be done, though. So that's more than usual for me.
16:22 <Schism> Guh. My brother keeps throwing out all the bread clips. They're useful!
16:22 <Cepheid> Actually, I suspect I could use a silly method of solving this problem.
16:23 <Cepheid> There are 8 variables, x1 through x8, x1 and x8 >= 0, while x2 through x7 >= 1... Hmm, yes, this could work.
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16:29 <Cepheid> I'll have to refer to my notebook for the final answer, but this will work.
16:29 <Cepheid> That's 7 questions down, 3 to go.
16:39 <Cepheid> Finwe: Is it normal to assume that, unless specified, that, given a set S, that a subset A is considered a subset so long as all the elements in A are in S, regardless of ordering? My classes didn't really go over set theory that well, so I'm missing a few bits of information, based on what I've read.
16:45 <Finwe> Cepheid: Yup. U is subset of E if every element of U is also an element of E.
16:47 <Finwe> If the order matters, it's called a permutation.
16:47 <Schism> Hum. My body insists that I need to eat something. I suppose I should make, say, grilled tuna sandwiches.
16:48 <Finwe> E.g. a set of three (distinguishable) elements has six permutations.
16:48 <Finwe> abc, acb, bac, bca, cab, cba
16:49 <Cepheid> Okay then, thanks.
16:49 <Finwe> But if the elements are indistinguishable, then there is only one permutation, aaa.
16:49 <Cepheid> Prof gave a weird setup that I have to solve.
16:50 <Finwe> The one with 17 students? o3o?
16:50 <Cepheid> He wants us to count the number of triplets that meet certain requirements. It involves a set.
16:50 <Cepheid> Nah.
16:50 <Cepheid> That one's a different question, and I can solve it.
16:51 <Finwe> Most of mathematics involves sets.
16:51 <Cepheid> Of course, but it's not always apparent.
16:52 <Cepheid> Hum...
16:53 <Cepheid> Empty set isn't included, so the base number is thus... |P(S)| - 1, where P(x) is the power set of x, and S is a set of size N, with elements {1, 2, ..., n}
16:53 <Finwe> As matter of fact, the set theory itself consists of a set of axioms. o3o
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16:54 <Cepheid> Does the set of all sets include itself?
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16:54 <Finwe> Depends on your axioms.
16:55 <Finwe> Modern set theory forbids that kind of sets.
16:56 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:56 <Cepheid> I only mentioned it out of silliness. :P
16:56 <Finwe> Otherwise you end up having the Russell's paradox in your theory.
16:57 <Finwe> Does the set of all sets that do not contain themself as an element contain itself as an element?
16:58 <Cepheid> ...
16:58 <Cepheid> Gotcha.
16:58 <Cepheid> (n + 1)! is the answer to this question.
17:00 <Cepheid> Wouldn't hurt to verify one last time, though.
17:00 <Cepheid> ... But the next level up is n = 4, which means 5!
17:01 <Cepheid> That's 120 entries. A long time to calculate.
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17:05 <Cepheid> Got that one too.
17:05 <Cepheid> ... And that one's just application of the two previous questions.
17:05 <Cepheid> It's literally the first one minus the second one.
17:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Phantom of the Opera Ponified [ http://tinyurl.com/y8wjzy7c ]
17:06 <Cepheid> Gods, why is this going so well?
17:07 <Cepheid> Hum, noon. I should eat lunch.
17:07 <ADragonDreaming> because it is
17:07 <Cepheid> I'm gonna go do that. Especially as I felt that typical low-blood-sugar pang.
17:08 * Schism is currently nomming his grilled tuna melts. o3o
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17:24 * Cepheid noms on meatballs. Unsure of type.
17:24 * Ali noms on Cepheid just cause
17:25 * Schism offers Ali some orange cookies!
17:25 * Cepheid drops a meatball and loses it. He'd go into song but he doesn't know the lyrics.
17:25 * Ali noms on the cookies and the lost meatball
17:31 * LibrarianofHope polishes meatball
17:38 <Cepheid> Hum. So energy drinks, at least this type... Period of hyperactivity. Then I wind down, but my clarity improves.
17:38 <LibrarianofHope> you probably should not drink that
17:39 <LibrarianofHope> tends to worsen symptoms
17:40 <Cepheid> I am aware. I called it a mistake earlier.
17:41 <LibrarianofHope> i got rejected from blood donation for drinking red bull that day i just remembered
17:42 <Cepheid> I'd likely not be able to donate my blood as well. For different reasons. Nothing controversial. Just I'm under the impression my immune system is whack.
17:43 * Cepheid blares Crazy Frog music in the channel.
17:43 <LibrarianofHope> so sad
17:43 * LibrarianofHope play despacito
17:44 * ADragonDreaming plays Ice Ice Baby
17:45 <LibrarianofHope> im still looking for a job ahh
17:45 <LibrarianofHope> it sucks
17:46 <LibrarianofHope> yet i remember that sthephen king and others enndured and surpassed worse scenarios, i can do this!
17:46 * LibrarianofHope dabs
17:46 * Schism returns from outside, touches a piece of metal, and goes down like a sack of potatoes.
17:47 <LibrarianofHope> schism is a faerie
17:47 <LibrarianofHope> they weaken with metal
17:47 <Schism> No, this was the result of static shock. >.>
17:48 <Cepheid> Don't ever touch me during Winter then.
17:48 <LibrarianofHope> cant touch this
17:49 <Cepheid> I seem to hold a considerable charge almost all the time.
17:52 <LibrarianofHope> i found a youtube channel with a singer called cepheid
17:52 <LibrarianofHope> she sang nicely
17:52 <Cepheid> Not me, of course.
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17:53 <LibrarianofHope> nope, jus pointing a coincidence
17:53 <Cepheid> Heh.
17:54 <LibrarianofHope> the word refers to a star cluster no? stands to reason others might use it
17:54 * Ali plays unicorns aren't cute
17:55 <Cepheid> A type of star, rather.
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17:56 <Cepheid> Now that I think about it, that may be why I keep visualizing a strange, glowing sphere that hovers behind me, fed by an eternal flame that I vent.
17:57 <LibrarianofHope> heck, very poetic
17:57 <Cepheid> I don't know what it is meant to represent though.
17:58 <Cepheid> Usually, I perceived the flame to be the physical manifestation of my various negative emotions. Rage and hatred in particular..
17:58 <Cepheid> That energy has to go somewhere, and it continually builds within me, regardless of what I do.
17:59 <Cepheid> Anyways. Discrete structures lecture. I need to pay attention.
18:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Non Cannon Regicide / Grogar / Merder Case 3 / Outfield 21 [ http://tinyurl.com/y967c5tt ]
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18:26 <Schism> Hm. When I realize that yes, I have the 'disable vampire attacks in towns' mod installed already, and therefore don't have to worry about the villagers getting eaten before I complete Dawnguard...
18:26 <Schism> (Vampire attacks which kill nonessential townsfolk are just plain wrong, especially since they start at level 10.)
18:27 <heftig> Schism: is there a mod that respawns non-essential NPCs? I would like that better than simply removing attacks
18:29 <Schism> heftig: Well, there are a few console commands you can use for that purpose. I'm pretty sure the mod to enable/disable attacks can be adjusted in-game, anyway.
18:30 * Ali nibbles on Schism
18:31 <Schism> It's not that I'm playing the game on easy mode, anyway -- I'm using Perkus Maximus amongst other things -- but random attacks that kill quest NPCs before I can do their stories annoy me.
18:37 <Schism> What did I just watch? https://store.steampowered.com/app/1018800/DEEEER_Simulator/
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18:50 <heftig> Schism: that's just tuesday
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19:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Let's Review: Toffee Truffle and Pixie Cut [ http://tinyurl.com/y7b5emgm ]
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19:19 * Sleeping_Nightmares chews on Ali for snugglies
19:19 * Ali squeaks
19:38 * Cepheid returns.
19:42 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjQeHI35Ksw Schism
19:42 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
19:42 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about La-Mulana - Song of Curry vocalized
19:51 <Cepheid> This last question for the assignment makes absolutely no sense.
19:57 * Ali brushies the Cepheid and yawns
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20:07 * Cepheid hmms as he looks at this. Needs to prove something using the pigeonhole principle. Understands the problem, but doesn't know how to express the answer in pigeonhole principle.
20:12 <PinkieShy> Woke up at 12 no pain.. At this time.. Pain is back :(
20:13 <PinkieShy> I really hope it wasn't that heavy over lifting i did like 2 or 3 weeks ago..
20:14 <PinkieShy> When i tempted to bring in 20lbs of dog food along with 2 packs of soda..
20:14 <PinkieShy> Either way.. DR would find out and probably faster than anything.
20:16 <Koopz> https://www.deviantart.com/donkoopa/stats/gallery/ this website never seizes to amaze me... i got a ton of happy birthday wishes from people i don't even remotely know
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20:17 * DashedRainbows nibbles on PinkieShy's hooves
20:17 <DashedRainbows> Hoi Vulpor
20:17 <Vulpor> Hey all pony people
20:17 <Koopz> i got most of those followers by simply throwing llamas at them...
20:17 <Vulpor> Installing magic the gathering arena
20:18 <Vulpor> free to play MTG
20:18 <Vulpor> Going to be fun
20:18 <DashedRainbows> Yay
20:20 <Vulpor> Yes I used to play MTG
20:20 <Vulpor> I still have a couple decks
20:21 <Vulpor> and an Avatar of Woe
20:21 <Vulpor> Or as I like to call her.................Taker
20:21 * LibrarianofHope takes taker
20:22 <LibrarianofHope> wut this
20:22 * Koopz looks under Taker
20:22 * Koopz shrugs
20:22 * Schism plays Avatar of Might, now that enough lands are in play.
20:23 <LibrarianofHope> its sounds like a monster
20:23 <LibrarianofHope> professional curiosity
20:24 <Vulpor> Its a card
20:24 <LibrarianofHope> carry on
20:24 * LibrarianofHope gives a cookie
20:25 <Schism> Hrmf. At some point I'll probably play a heavy armour character in an Elder Scrolls game. This is not that day.
20:26 <Vulpor> LibrarianofHope: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=270448&type=card
20:26 <Cepheid> Hum. A set of 19 2-digit integers, ranging from 10 to 99. I have to prove using the pigeonhole principle that there exists two distinct numbers X and Y, such that the sum of the digits of X and the sum of the digits of Y are equal.
20:27 <Koopz> i always end up as sneaky heavy armored archer
20:29 <Cepheid> If you make a set of 18 numbers or greater, it's guaranteed that you will find two numbers within the set such that the sum of their digits are equal.
20:31 * DashedRainbows chews on LibrarianofHope
20:36 *** Sleeping_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
20:40 <Schism> If you make a set of 11 or more numbers, it's guaranteed.
20:41 <Schism> Er... wait, nevermind, 18 is right.
20:41 <Schism> Heh, I was thinking of adding and then re-adding.
20:44 <Cepheid> I just need to figure out how to show this using the pigeonhole principle.
20:45 <Cepheid> That's what I can't figure out here.
20:45 <Cepheid> I can use an exhaustive proof to show that with at least 18 boxes, it's guaranteed.
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20:46 <Schism|Adagio> Foooor... some reason I want to kind of take all the silver out of the Companions' place. You know. For their protection.
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20:48 <Schism|Adagio> Sound legit, Adra?
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20:52 <Cepheid> Since the requirements suggest distinct numbers, that actually reduces the set size for guaranteed cases to 16.
20:53 <Cepheid> Since if we're dealing with numbers from 10 to 99 inclusive, then 10 by itself has no matching number, nor does 99.
20:53 <Cepheid> Hmm.
20:54 <Cepheid> No, I got that wrong.
20:54 <Cepheid> It's definitely 18.
20:55 <Cepheid> Irony is that with exception to 10 and 99, the absolute minimum distance between such pairs is 9.
20:56 <Cepheid> 11, 20. 12, 21. 13, 22. And so on.
20:57 <Schism> In effect, because there are 18 possibilities within the space - literally one through eighteen - then by having 19 different numbers, one of those possibilities must contain more than one.
20:58 * Cepheid hmms.
21:00 <Schism> All you should really need to do is show that the possibility space is only 1-18.
21:02 <Cepheid> At 17 digits({10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99}) I have created a set such that the sum of the digits of two distinct numbers in the set do not equal one another. Add another number, and you're screwed.
21:02 <Cepheid> The highest possible sum is 18, therefore. The minimum possible sum is 1.
21:03 <Schism> That's 18 indices.
21:03 <Schism> But yes, heh.
21:03 <Cepheid> Thus, if you can prove that you can create a set such that the digits of each number equal the respective values 1 through 18 inclusive, then you're peachy. If you add one more number to that..
21:04 <Cepheid> Well, no matter what, you will encounter at least two numbers such that the sum of their digits equal one another.
21:05 <Cepheid> It's too bad I can't prove it using this approach.
21:05 <Cepheid> I can show the maximum possible sum is 18, and the minimum possible sum is 1, but that's not enough to prove it.
21:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2877 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7yy4c62 ]
21:07 <Cepheid> Maybe I'm overthinking it.
21:13 * Schism randomly puts an infinite number of people into an infinitely-large hotel, such that it's completely filled. Then he adds one more person.
21:14 <Cepheid> I'm going to take the idiot's route, and express it in the manner that I perceive it.
21:14 <Cepheid> I don't like doing proofs. Hate it.
21:15 * Schism provides Cepheid and Filly_Nightmares with floof. https://twitter.com/pandafloofs/status/1090686564676579328
21:15 * Filly_Nightmares skree!
21:16 <Cepheid> The simplest way to show this is to show that the minimal sum that can be created from a two-digit number is 1 (1 + 0 from 10), and that the maximum sum is 18 (9 + 9 from 99), such that you'd need 19 boxes or more to guarantee the possibility of two distinct integers having numbers such that the sum of their digits is equal.
21:16 <Cepheid> So that's what I'm gonna say.
21:17 <Schism> That's probably all ya need.
21:17 <Cepheid> Whether or not it's what he wants, I dun care. I hate discrete math as well. And technically it shows that it's a pigeonhole principle case.
21:17 <Cepheid> So that solves *THAT* question.
21:17 <Cepheid> Last one.
21:19 <Koopz> man red pandas are the best thing on the world
21:19 <Koopz> wish i could have one as a pet
21:20 <Koopz> since i can't, i guess i'll have to resort to the 2nd best thing in the world
21:20 <Koopz> Corgis
21:20 <LibrarianofHope> breadbutts!
21:22 <Schism> Bamboo treat? Don't give me that bamboo treat. I nom pants. https://twitter.com/pandafloofs/status/1077980139567415298
21:26 <Cepheid> Hmm.
21:27 <Cepheid> I have no way to prove this what-so-ever.
21:27 * Filly_Nightmares chews on LibrarianofHope
21:28 <Cepheid> It doesn't say what *KIND* of proof to give.
21:28 <Cepheid> Could I just give a trivial proof?
21:28 <Schism> If it doesn't say, then probably a weak or trivial one?
21:29 <Cepheid> Because in this case, I can create a scenario that shows what it is asking for is possible.
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21:30 <Cepheid> I wonder if I'm interpreting the concept of "proof" improperly.
21:31 <Schism> As I understand it, that would qualify as a weak proof.
21:31 <Schism> But don't take my word for it, of course.
21:31 <Cepheid> Or a constructive proof.
21:34 * Schism considers making some of this ancho chili tea.
21:35 <Schism> On reflection, nah. Mayhaps later.
21:39 <Cepheid> ... I'm overcomplicating this.
21:40 <Cepheid> I have a set S of 9 people, such that the age of each person is 1 <= age(x) <= 60, where x is an individual of the set S. In the first case..
21:41 <Cepheid> It specifies that there are two people in the set such that they have the same age. I have to create two subsets, A and B, such that they're non-empty, their intersection is the empty set, and that the sum of the ages of the people in each set is equal to one another.
21:42 <Cepheid> What's stopping me from proving it's possible by doing say, S = { 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 }, then taking the people who are 1 and 7 years old, putting them in subset A, and then taking the person who's 8 years old, putting them in subset B?
21:42 <Cepheid> At the minimum, this meets the requirements of what's being asked.
21:43 <Cepheid> A and B are subsets of S, they don't intersect(That is, a person is not part of both groups), and their sums add up to the same value (Subset A would be 8, subset B would be 8.)
21:43 <Cepheid> By using that setup, I have trivially proven that the requirements are possible.
21:43 <Cepheid> It's not asking for any type of special proof.
21:43 <Cepheid> So I can use whatever method I want, and just go with that.
21:44 <Cepheid> If the professor wants to complain about my approach, he can specify specific proof types next time.
21:45 <Cepheid> In fact, I screwed it up and still proved something, in my explanation.
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21:47 <Cepheid> ...
21:47 <Cepheid> It can't be this easy.
21:50 * Cepheid examines assignment again just to make sure.
21:51 <Cepheid> ... Yep, with exception to the second part, the first and third parts do not specify any kind of proof. It's just asking me to prove that there exists two subsets that meet three specific requirements.
21:51 <Cepheid> As far as I'm concerned, simply showing an example pair of subsets should be sufficient.
21:58 <PinkieShy> While most of you guys up north are freezing.. Mean while in south carolina.... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyMNjTuX0AAyvje?format=jpg&name=medium
21:58 <PinkieShy> I would love to feel 0F at least once.. :P
21:59 <Cepheid> Not that great, trust me.
21:59 <Cepheid> Anyone else tells you otherwise, they're lying.
22:00 * Ali shakes hoof at PinkieShy
22:00 * Cepheid looks at grading scheme for assignment. Final question has the first and third parts being worth 2 marks each, while the second part is worth 8.
22:00 <PinkieShy> Right now most people would probably love to be in the temperatures here right now..
22:00 <PinkieShy> Hii ali :D
22:01 <Ali> Its 2 here
22:02 * PinkieShy hands ali some dipping dots
22:03 <Cepheid> I'm gonna head home, finish up at home and such.
22:03 <Cepheid> So I'm gonna pack up and leave. Back in a bit.
22:05 <LibrarianofHope> i need more monster owo
22:05 <LibrarianofHope> monsters i mean
22:05 <PinkieShy> Maybe history will repeat..
22:06 <PinkieShy> in 2014 come Feb i believe mid Feb we got an ice storm here..
22:06 <PinkieShy> That was the worst ever..
22:06 <PinkieShy> stayed home no power dipped down to like 25F inside..
22:07 <PinkieShy> I remember i felt with like 2 shirts, and 2 jackets.. and was still cold.. Ended up not sleeping at all..
22:07 <PinkieShy> The bed felt like a block of ice.
22:07 <PinkieShy> *slept with
22:18 <Cepheid> Oh gods. I just found a song to translate and sing for that competition.
22:21 <Cepheid> o/'in the middle of earth in the land of the shire lives a brave little hobbit we all admireo/'
22:21 <Schism|Adagio> You're evil.
22:22 <Cepheid> Its 2 minutes, 21 seconds.
22:22 <Cepheid> It's perfect! Don't deny it.
22:22 <Schism|Adagio> The length of the song is not the issue. The song itself is evil.
22:22 <Cepheid> Oh come on. Its Leonard Nimoy.
22:24 <Schism|Adagio> Yes, and your point?
22:24 * Schism|Adagio also decides to powerlevel Smithing.
22:29 <Schism|Adagio> Getting Smithing to a high level early on is... well, just a teensy bit helpful.
22:30 * Cepheid could do a Nickleback song.
22:30 <Schism|Adagio> Heh, that's even worse.
22:30 <Cepheid> Fine. Eiffel 6- *gets hit with a tomato*
22:31 <Schism|Adagio> How about TMBG - Particle Man?
22:31 <LibrarianofHope> to the audience, dont throw tomatoes
22:31 <Cepheid> That works too. o3o
22:31 <LibrarianofHope> we have enough, now uyse past
22:31 <LibrarianofHope> pasta
22:31 <Schism|Adagio> LibrarianofHope: That was SCP-504.
22:33 <Cepheid> Too bad rock lobster is so long.
22:33 <Schism|Adagio> Okay, carryweight 138/665. That should give me enough to pick up everything I want in this dungeon.
22:34 <LibrarianofHope> cant use him
22:34 <LibrarianofHope> he lives in my library/planet
22:34 <LibrarianofHope> he insist he is a diplomat, he squats in a fountain
22:35 <LibrarianofHope> everytime time we try to get him out he gets feisty
22:35 <Schism|Adagio> Not familiar with the B-52s?
22:35 <LibrarianofHope> nope
22:38 <LibrarianofHope> for my novel universe i made a huge city where nice monsters can live in peace
22:39 <LibrarianofHope> founded by uboa, renamed as bob
22:39 <LibrarianofHope> guess the name of the city
22:40 <Cepheid> Yume
22:40 <LibrarianofHope> nope
22:41 <Cepheid> Would have worked. Yume is the Japanese word for "dream".
22:41 <LibrarianofHope> go sillier
22:42 <Cepheid> Pandemonium
22:42 <LibrarianofHope> sillyier
22:42 <LibrarianofHope> the dumbest you can do
22:43 <Cepheid> Purgatory.
22:43 <LibrarianofHope> bobsville
22:43 <Cepheid> I'm choosing the worst possible words on purpose now.
22:52 <Schism|Adagio> "Why is everything able to see me?" I ask before realizing that I have an amulet of starlight on, and therefore appear as a gigantic glowy target.
22:52 <LibrarianofHope> im very proud of the uboa to bob history
22:53 <LibrarianofHope> its an optimistic beauty.
22:55 <Schism|Adagio> Ugh, until I get some good Light Armor skills, I'm absurdly squishy.
22:55 * Schism|Adagio sighs, and levels up some Restoration by firing off light spells at undead.
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23:04 <ADragonDreaming> Skyrim/
23:04 <Finwe> Good evening, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
23:04 <Finwe> Messrs ADragonDreaming, Cepheid, LibrarianofHope and Schism|Adagio.
23:04 * Finwe doffs his hat.
23:04 <Finwe> Miss Ali, Mr PinkieShy,
23:05 * Finwe redoffs his hat.
23:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comic dubs: Rainbow Dash's Flying School / Transformations / Pinkie's Diagnostic [ http://tinyurl.com/y7a53bdg ]
23:07 <LibrarianofHope> i got paid owo
23:07 <Finwe> o3o!
23:08 <LibrarianofHope> quite a nice amount, not expected
23:08 <Finwe> LibrarianofHope: For services rendered?
23:09 <LibrarianofHope> sort off
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23:11 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
23:12 * Thelema5 flops, exhausted
23:12 <Thelema5> I just got done clearing my driveway of 45cm of snow
23:14 <Thelema5> I have to find some kids to do for me from now on, it's too much for an out-of-shape middle aged guy on his own
23:17 <Schism|Adagio> Ouch... @_@
23:18 <Thelema5> I still have to clean my car off, but I'll think about that tomorrow.
23:20 <Cepheid> Apparently my sister almost electrocuted herself.
23:20 <Schism|Adagio> Wow, it must be Wednesday.
23:20 <Cepheid> She took her necklace off, tossed it aside. It landed on a nightlight. Then slipped between the nightlight and the wall, and touched both prongs.
23:20 <PinkieShy> Uhh.. o_o
23:20 <Schism|Adagio> (Sorry, it's just that your sister has some weird accidents.)
23:20 <PinkieShy> I found out how many people i have added exactly on VRChat..
23:20 <PinkieShy> I have 511 people..
23:20 <Cepheid> Suddenly, breaker flips, and the light light exploded along with the necklace flying into the room.
23:20 <PinkieShy> 511 people added as a friend.
23:21 <Cepheid> Er, roof*
23:22 * Schism|Adagio loads game after breaking... 25 lockpicks.
23:22 <Cepheid> Heh.
23:22 * Cepheid listens to Tizzy just meow up a storm downstairs. "I don't know why she's started doing this, but it happens every day after my dad gets home."
23:27 <ADragonDreaming> "Food. Food. Food. Food. Food."
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23:30 <LibrarianofHope> i finally reduced my debt to 9000 pesos
23:30 <LibrarianofHope> im so happy owo
23:30 <Schism|Adagio> Nrrrrrgh! NPC Helpers are always *jumping in front*. It is *DANCING!*
23:33 <PinkieShy> My shirt i ordered.. on the 14th.. Is finally coming either tomorrow or monday..
23:34 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming: It's not food she's asking for. My analysis of her behaviour that she's asking for attention, pettings. My dad has a habit of going to the washroom downstairs, and Tizzy always follows and gets attention.
23:35 <ADragonDreaming> "Human! Worship me!"
23:38 <Cepheid> PinkieShy: I once waited over a month for a book to be delivered.
23:39 <LibrarianofHope> about the same for my custom kindle cover
23:39 <PinkieShy> I had to complain to get my order...
23:45 <Cepheid> Was the delivery window sooner than it is now?
23:45 <PinkieShy> A day after i ordered it they claimed it was on its way..
23:46 <PinkieShy> Never came.. 2 weeks past and complained and they said they just now sent it out..
23:46 <PinkieShy> well walmart had them e-mail me.. It was a third paryt seller..
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