Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Sunday, 2019-02-17

00:01 <Cepheid> There, got my Zora Magdaros Beta armor.

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00:21 <Cepheid> Pretty sure that was the strongest hit I've ever incurred upon a monster.  295 damage.

00:29 <DashedRainbows> Thx Cepheid hmm

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00:33 * DashedRainbows barks at Quill

00:35 * Quill woofs back

00:35 * Schism gahs, and awakens.

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01:06 <Schism> Self, I don't care how tired you are, don't poke the Bone Cuccos.

01:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Shippin' Appledash PMV: Bonfire Heart  [ http://tinyurl.com/yyq2zex4 ]

01:11 <Cepheid> Great Giros, gimme yer fang.

01:11 <Cepheid> I need a paralysis faaaang.

01:12 <Schism> Guhh.  I need that stupid Book of Mudora to get two items, but have no clue where the book might be.

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01:24 <RazorSharpFang> おはようございます。

01:25 <RazorSharpFang> Morning everyone.

01:26 <Schism> Go stick your head in a pig!

01:26 <Schism> I mean, good morning.

01:27 <Cepheid> こんばんは!

01:28 <Cepheid> 元気ですか

01:29 <PinkieShy> >_> I feel like i need a nap..

01:30 * PinkieShy hands RazorSharpFang and Schism some spiral smoked ham

01:33 <Schism> Well, I'm an idiot.

01:33 <Cepheid> Aren't we all?

01:34 <Schism> Yeah, but... pyramid's sitting right here, and I'm all, like, "Well, how do I get to Agahnim..."

01:35 <Schism> Aaaaand that helped me not at all.

01:44 * Ali flops over RazorSharpFang

01:48 * RazorSharpFang flops a bit too

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01:57 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: Season 9 Confirmed To Be Final Season Of Friendship Is Magic [ http://tinyurl.com/yxs9b494 ]

01:57 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: New York Toy Fair 2019 My Little Pony Booth - Full Tour and Gallery  [ http://tinyurl.com/yxgx3dfz ]

01:57 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Gameleon: Upcoming My Little Pony Movie Is Not A Sequel To the 2017 Movie [ http://tinyurl.com/y3ly8uek ]

01:58 <Schism> Phew.  Ice dungeon clear, for the Pendant of Courage.

02:01 * Schism sighs. "But to no benefit."

02:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: MLP Season 9 Episode 200 - Tons of Hype Revealed by Big Jim!  [ http://tinyurl.com/y2kzzpyd ]

02:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1713 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5va6zah ]

02:12 <PinkieShy> i think i'll do a custom werewolf game :3

02:14 <Cepheid> Schism:  Are you playing some sort of randomized version or something?

02:22 <Schism> Indeed.

02:22 <Schism> Rather a different monster, is this setup.

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02:50 <PinkieShy> uhh..

02:50 <PinkieShy> I don't remember typing that.. >.> In the irc bar where i type.. some how the words "Wildsoft, " was typed..

02:56 <Schism> Eh.  Copy/paste or autocomplete, most like.

02:59 * Cepheid murders some monsters.

02:59 <Cepheid> Great Giros, even at High Rank, is but a puppy to me.

03:00 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Bazelguese just explodes me.

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03:10 <Cepheid> Welcome back, Dreamer.

03:45 * Cepheid carves two tails off of a single-tailed Pukei-Pukei.

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04:03 * Cepheid picks up a small pukei-pukei fragment. It is an entire pukei-pukei wing.

04:07 * Ali snuffles on RazorSharpFang

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04:13 * Schism frowns, then nods. "Sure enough. Big Key in the Water Palace is in the only chest I haven't opened."

04:14 * Schism found one more such chest, but it only contained a Piece of Heart. Grumbl.

04:14 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/pz73TKt.png Smol.

04:15 <Schism> Hm.  That is rather tiny.

04:15 <Cepheid> Smallest Great Jagras ever, 277 units.

04:15 <Cepheid> That quest will cause you to gold-crown both the smallest and largest Great Jagras.

04:16 <Cepheid> There's three of 'em, different sizes.  One's gigantic compared to usual instances.  One's about human-height in size.  Then there's that one.

04:17 * Schism blinks. Sees a house he hasn't gone into. Enters. "Mini-Muldorm spiral, check. Blue clothes, check. Entrance to Ahganim's Tower, FINALLY, CHECK."

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05:37 <Schism> Let's see now.  With the Ether Medallion obtained in Ganon's Tower, I have now accessed the Tower of Hera in Misery Mire and gotten the Bow.

05:39 <Schism> Aaand Muldorm drops the silver arrows.  Hahhhh...

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07:00 <Golden> ._.

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07:19 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

07:34 <Schism> Hiya.

07:34 * ConfusionRift slowly waves.

07:34 * Schism drags a big bomb to the pyramid. The end result is ... a single NPC telling him about how to summon the bird.

07:35 <Schism> Meh, I mean, I already have the golden sword and silver arrows anyway.

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07:36 <Golden> Hey

07:36 <Schism> No, no, an actual sword made of gold.  But hiya.

07:36 * ConfusionRift looks at Schism, confused.

07:37 * Schism completely spaces on where he left Ganon. "Oh right, the little hole to the east of the Cemetary."

07:38 <ConfusionRift> Okay, I know what you're referring to, but some placing is a bit... I can't put which is.

07:38 <Schism> ConfusionRift: oh, you know how it goes.  You get to Ganon's Tower, that gives you the Ether Medallion, from there you go to Misery Mire to enter the Tower of Hera and get the Bow and Silver Arrows...

07:39 * ConfusionRift tilts so hard, his head falls off.

07:39 <ConfusionRift> This... is a randomizer, yes?

07:39 <Schism> Sure is.  o3o

07:40 <ConfusionRift> Oh, okay. With how work has been, I thought I was having a mental breakdown and was misremembering.

07:40 <Schism> Oh, sorry.  Yeah, thankfully nothing of the sort.

07:40 <ConfusionRift> :P

07:41 * ConfusionRift points at Schism with a TASbot completely destroying ALttP to its will. :P

07:42 <Schism> Aaaand in 'Ganon's Tower' on the outside... two full heart containers.  This run would be 100% if only I found the Mushroom.

07:43 <ConfusionRift> Remember to check the scepter area.

07:44 * Schism headtilts?

07:44 <ConfusionRift> The ice scepter is not in a dungeon.

07:45 <Schism> Oh yeah, the ice cave was one of the first places I marked off my list.

07:45 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm.

07:46 * Schism notes, "Also, the /locations/ are mixed up. The ice rod cave, the good bee cave, and the side area in that little section lead to... *check* The bomb/arrow upgrade NPC, Hyrule Castle, and the Shooting Gallery.

07:46 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh, nooo.

07:46 <ConfusionRift> It randomizes rooms as well.

07:47 <Schism> Not rooms, just entrances and exits.  :S

07:47 <Schism> I mean, I /could/ just do an item randomizer, but I wanted a challenge.

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07:47 <ConfusionRift> Sorry, I mean places, not necessarily rooms.

07:47 <ConfusionRift> Wait, no, that's worse.

07:48 <ConfusionRift> That means you could be going to the witches hut, end up inside the mountain, and then exit in Kakariko.

07:49 <Schism> The west entrance of Desert Palace was east of Link's house, in the flag cave; the front entrance was on the east side of Death Mountain; the right entrance was the bomb shed in Kakariko, and the top entrance was Kakariko's Money-Making Game.

07:49 <Schism> Shortcuts do make it faster to get around, though.  :3

07:49 <Schism> (Especially when the freakin' ocarina was in Ganon's Tower.)

07:53 <ConfusionRift> Okay, really. From one of the woods' ground hole, he lands a heart piece. Then, he glitches a gate and makes his way through DW dungeon 3, side steps, breaks the map, falls, glitches again, and gets the hookshot in DW dungeon 2.

07:54 <Schism> Like DW dungeon 3 is particularly difficult.

07:54 <Schism> Also, hah.  TASBot?

07:54 <ConfusionRift> Yep.

07:55 <ConfusionRift> Tool Assisted Speedrun bot.

07:55 <ConfusionRift> Well, it's more of a scripted run. Still, stupid hard to follow.

08:01 <Schism> Whee.  So, 15 hours for my first randomized run.  That's not too shabby.

08:04 <Schism> ConfusionRift, where's that video then?

08:04 <ConfusionRift> Oh, sorry. Here it beeee. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkeUabJtpS4

08:04 <ConfusionRift> Have fun keeping track. :P

08:05 <Schism> I recognize a lot of this.  X3

08:05 <Schism> The Death Mountain descent is of course a must.

08:05 <ConfusionRift> I do as well, but all goes crazy really fast.

08:07 <ConfusionRift> "Guards? Pffft, screw that." (glitches on a gate, and gets Zelda) "Okay, now time to leave." (O.B.s to the sanctuary)

08:08 <Schism> Yeah.  The OOBing makes sense.

08:09 <Schism> Bit of zipping, and... oh.  Huh.

08:09 <ConfusionRift> Yep. :P

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08:11 <ConfusionRift> He doesn't even have access to the dark world or have the pearl, and just gets the hookshot. :P

08:12 <Schism> Heh.  :P

08:13 <ConfusionRift> All of this is possible, just very difficult to do this on a normal run.

08:13 <Schism> I know, about the most I've done is a fair amount of a bunny run.

08:13 <Schism> Moon pearl, pah.  Who needs it.

08:15 <ConfusionRift> I did that too. And a friend of mine managed to mess a save and get stuck somewhere while on bunny form.

08:16 <Schism> Also, the Fire Rod is my bestest friend.

08:16 <ConfusionRift> If you got nothing else... yes.

08:16 <Schism> Especially against those hopping... well, I'll call them Pokeys, in Turtle Rock.

08:17 <Schism> Four stacked on one another, but a single blast of fire rod takes 'em out in one go.

08:17 * ConfusionRift rememebrs Vinny's OoT randomized run. That was a disaster.

08:18 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, those are a pain.

08:26 <Schism> That list of glitches.  XD

08:26 <ConfusionRift> From stair hopping to datamining. :P

08:27 <Schism> I'm tempted to do another random run now.  I'm quite certain that I can get it faster this time.

08:28 <Schism> Maybe this time it won't take me 12 hours to find the bow!

08:29 * ConfusionRift opens the chest at home, 10 rupees. "Yep... here we goooo."

08:29 <Schism> What mode are you doing?

08:30 <ConfusionRift> I'm not playing at the moment. Still cooling down.

08:30 <Schism> Ahh.

08:31 <ConfusionRift> It was something that happened to Vinny a lot in the OoT random run. Got rupees in the large treasure chests.

08:31 <Schism> Yea, it's been happening on DeceasedCrab's run too.

08:33 <Schism> Lessee.  Normal difficulty, open (no introduction), full shuffle (LW and DW separate), no glitches, target is Ganon.

08:33 <Schism> First chest: 50 rupees.  It begins!

08:38 * DerbyFloat sticks ConfusionRift's hooves in her mouth

08:38 * ConfusionRift pets DerbyFloat. :P

08:39 <Schism> Pfff.  Sanctuary is two screens away from home.

08:39 <Schism> It's in the Hyrule Castle gardens.

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08:48 <Schism> Yeesh.  Kakariko has everything and nothing.

08:49 <ConfusionRift> Great variety, nothing useful? :P

08:50 <Schism> Ehhh.  Well, the MMG, the Target Practice, the Old Man's Cave for some reason, the Blacksmith, oh, and Ganon's Tower.

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09:01 <Schism> Oh, huh.  This is convenient.

09:02 * Schism happens across Ganon. The Woodcutters are chopping down the tree which contains the pig. "Wasn't there a movie about this back in the '90s? Think it had Robin Williams and Tim Curry."

09:03 <ConfusionRift> I... this sound very familiar.

09:06 <ConfusionRift> Wait WHAT?!

09:06 * ConfusionRift checks his bank account.

09:07 <ConfusionRift> I dunno what happened there, but APPARENTLY I either got the wrong paycheck or there was a payment adjustment.

09:07 <Schism> That's not a good sound... what happened?

09:09 <ConfusionRift> On the same date, I received what seemed like two paychecks, which is odd. The very odd thing was that they sent two different payments, and then immediately removed one. Oddly enough, I was left with the smaller one (about a $10 difference).

09:10 <Schism> Huh.  Well, better than no payment at all.  @_@

09:11 <Schism> Talk about worrying.

09:11 <ConfusionRift> And you're right. I'm wondering as to what triggered this pull, since this was a check with my bonus.

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09:15 * ConfusionRift whispers to Schism. "Our attendance now affects our bonus."

09:16 <Schism> Hooboy.

09:17 <Schism> Okay, game, you've been frontloading the rupees so far, what's in Blind's old house?

09:17 * Schism acquires... bombs, 50 rupees, two pieces of heart, and a Lv.1 Shield.

09:18 * ConfusionRift checks the chicken coop, and is now fighting Ganon. "Aaaaaaah! Help!!!"

09:18 <Schism> Hah, last run that was the Misery Mire dungeon.

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09:19 <Schism> There is some method to the madness, though.  You can only wind up fighting Ganon if you enter a pit.

09:20 <ConfusionRift> That... that makes sense.

09:25 <ConfusionRift> The way to get to Ganon is by the hole in the pyramid in the center of the dark world, after hwhacking the wizzzard a second time. So it would make sense to make that entrance random to another hole, instead of a door or gate.

09:26 <Schism> Also, the nearby exit which is normally linked to that hole will always be the other side.

09:26 <Schism> So in this case, the hole that the woodcutters produce leads to Ganon, but if you fall off during the fight, you'll exit from the cave behind the woodcutters' cottage.

09:27 <ConfusionRift> Huh.

09:29 <Schism> Piece of heart, piece of heart, piece of heart (yeesh), rupees... bombos?  Well, I mean, okay...

09:39 <Schism> Ah.  So that's why Bombos.

09:39 <ConfusionRift> What the...? Really Apple? Really? Oh, for those with an iMac Pro, have fuuun.

09:40 <Schism> To what is this in reference, then?

09:42 <ConfusionRift> The machine is expensive, repairs are expensive, and if you lost the warranty for some reason it would cost you 2x - 4x as much to get it fixed. My greatest fear of this is that if you're trying to be a brave soul and try to fix it yourself... the system has an unshielded and exposed power supply right behind the display.

09:43 <ConfusionRift> So... you have a good chance of getting a really nasty zap.

09:43 <Schism> Cute, reminds me of old CRTs and how you had to let them sit for a long while before you even thought of taking them apart.

09:45 <ConfusionRift> The 8-bit Guy did a few old system restorations that had integrated CRT displays, and just watching this guy take them apart is just uuurgh.

09:46 <ConfusionRift> And there was one he had to ground. resolder, and refit the screen to fully restore it.

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09:48 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait, he had help. But still, watching is interesting and a but urgh.

09:48 <ConfusionRift> *and a bit

09:51 <ConfusionRift> !link https://youtu.be/oW7EszNFmPA?t=292

09:51 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

09:51 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about IBM PCjr Repair and Restoration

09:54 <Schism> Gasp.

09:54 * Schism gets lamp.

09:56 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah! So you can use it in the dark. Or not use it, because it's not that hard to navigate without it. :P

09:56 <Schism> It is when you don't know which room you're in.

09:59 <Schism> Old Man's Cave leads to... this isn't Death Mountain!  This isn't Death Mountain at all!

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10:07 * Schism gets the hammer.

10:09 <Schism> Some low-hanging fruit over here.  Heh.

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11:00 <ConfusionRift> Oh baby, oh babyyyy. Gonna have plenty of days off.

11:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1487 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3vtters ]

11:10 <Schism> I begin to wonder if the game is trying to make up for its previous aggravation.

11:11 <ConfusionRift> Well, if the beginning is garbage, chances are everything would be better towards the end. Just as if one has a good start, everything would just start getting pretty bad towards the end.

11:11 <Schism> Oh, I meant the aggravation of the previous seed, too.

11:11 <ConfusionRift> Aaaah.

11:12 <ConfusionRift> Oh, so the randomizer does use seeds for generation, so TECHNICALLY one can follow another person's run.

11:13 <Schism> Indeed, and this is a good starter seed, gives all the tools pretty early on.

11:13 <Schism> Well, many.  Haven't seen the Hookshot yet.

11:15 <ConfusionRift> Probably under the bridge or something. :P

11:15 <Schism> At this point I'd believe it.

11:15 * Schism obtains a shield.

11:16 <ConfusionRift> "Little did he know, it was in the chest mini-game."

11:17 <Schism> Oh, thankfully when you 'win' the chest minigame, a chime sounds.  So if it turns out to be 20 rupees (AGAIN), you won't need to keep playing.

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11:34 <ConfusionRift> Blarg. Sleep time. Laters!

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11:57 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Letters to the Staff Event - What Does Friendship is Magic Mean To You?  [ http://tinyurl.com/y65zx6wu ]

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14:47 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBxH_VmM51E - This is perhaps not the best thing to watch while half-asleep.

14:47 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

14:47 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about [TAS] NES Mega Man by Shinryuu \u0026 FinalFighter in 12:23.34

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15:25 <Cepheid> Morning.  Also# what happened in Ice Man's stage?

15:28 <Cepheid> ....  And Bomb Man's stage.

15:30 <Cepheid> And now half the screen is corrupt on each transition now...

15:38 <ADragonDreaming> Cepheid: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/167TXYrEC82dD0PIaCnmSF7zMYFhqxvWTKZXTTzafYQY/edit?usp=sharing

15:40 <Cepheid> Heh.

15:41 <Cepheid> Oooh butterfly sets.

15:43 <Cepheid> Shadow Shades.  Hmm.

15:49 <Cepheid> I have until about mmm, 2 PM or so.  My mother wants to watch me play some RE2.

15:54 <Cepheid> "There. Is. Confetti. Everywhere." - Arena Gal.

15:54 <ADragonDreaming> yeh

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16:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: More Pony Music! A saucerful of pony secrets! [ http://tinyurl.com/yyyuqs83 ]

16:14 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DznrIP2XcAAo2ZZ.jpg

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16:54 <Stormspark> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydactyl_cat

16:54 <Stormspark> fun fact: Cats are starting to evolve opposable thumbs

16:55 <Cepheid> I am aware of polydactylism.

16:55 <Cepheid> Tizzy has opposable thumbs.

16:55 <Cepheid> She uses it to pick up stuff on rare occasion.

17:00 <Stormspark> cats are going to take over the planet after humans are gone

17:00 <Cepheid> Funny thing, this likely isn't due to evolving.

17:00 <Cepheid> Evolution is a reactionary thing, something that occurs because it is necessary for further survival or improving survival.

17:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: SHINDEERU / ES:FS #273 / Royal Sketchbook #??? / Our Town #7  [ http://tinyurl.com/y4e97tw2 ]

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17:39 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/okhtM7X.png The most epic screenshot I'll ever make of my MH Character.  I used wedge beetles to catch up to it, and was positioned just right to slam my hammer down on it from above.  I killed the monster with a falling impact strike.

17:47 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Time for Two - New Agro Animation!  [ http://tinyurl.com/y2wqhxaa ]

17:47 <Cepheid> As ADra said, looks like a meteor strike.

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18:53 <PinkieShy> Church had a special guest from China today..

18:54 <PinkieShy> He told us how bad things are over there.. Spies every where, some elderly locked in cages, and face recognation stuff is like every where and even on the streets.

18:55 <SilverLining> Why did they lock the elderly in cages?

18:56 <PinkieShy> He said its the elderly that families have nothing to do with..

18:57 <Cepheid> That's pretty much common knowledge to people outside of the country.  Even to some folks within the country.

18:58 <Cepheid> Communist government, and rife with corruption.

18:58 <Cepheid> Monitoring of it's citizens is a combination of cameras, internet firewalls, and the like.  The government suppresses information that criticizes it.

19:02 <PinkieShy> The guy told us he has to work to get and keep is Visa over in China

19:02 <ADragonDreaming> yep

19:04 <PinkieShy> Cepheid the guy told us a story of social media over there.. He says he don't use internet there but.. The ones that do told him that they got in trouble for having a 'to clean' of a social media profile.

19:06 <Cepheid> I am aware of this, you aren't telling me anything I don't know.

19:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Ponies Meet a Bunch of Disney Stuff! "Epilogue" - Animation [ http://tinyurl.com/yxf7srvl ]

19:09 <Cepheid> Basically, stuff like this is general common knowledge if you have any inclination in my field to research the going-ons of software development, hardware development, and the like.

19:09 <Cepheid> Also, turns out that China's hardware manufacturers have been installing an incredibly small chip that isn't on any PCB schematics.

19:18 <ADragonDreaming> source for that last one?

19:22 <Cepheid> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

19:22 <Cepheid> Amazon and a few others noticed it during hardware reviews.

19:24 <ADragonDreaming> as regards that:

19:24 <ADragonDreaming> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20181025/00472140907/detailed-thorough-debunking-bloombergs-sketchy-story-about-supply-chain-hack.shtml

19:25 <ADragonDreaming> and the article that analyzes Bloomberg's one in full: https://www.servethehome.com/investigating-implausible-bloomberg-supermicro-stories/

19:27 <Cepheid> Huh.

19:29 <Cepheid> Very well then, I rescind my comment.

19:29 <ADragonDreaming> Bloomberg's usually a good source, but in this case, yeah

19:30 <ADragonDreaming> (note I still don't support China's totalitarianism)

19:30 <Cepheid> That said, I still don't entirely trust the idea that China hasn't been doing secretive things to hardware.

19:31 <Cepheid> Takes a lot of work to keep an eye on your people.

19:31 * Cepheid goes to hunt some Hornetaurs.

19:31 <Cepheid> Also, maxed out Shieldspire.

19:34 <Cepheid> Think I'll work on the Gajalaka bomb next.

19:34 <ADragonDreaming> oh, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, but bear in mind the US has done similar to China hardware.

19:34 <ADragonDreaming> canada may have actual moral hgh ground, though

19:35 <Cepheid> Hard to say.

19:35 <Cepheid> If you're referring to the Hauwei case though..

19:35 <Cepheid> We had no choice.  It'd be like ignoring an Interpol request to arrest a known criminal.

19:36 <ADragonDreaming> eh, the whole huawei ban is a protectionist move covered up as anti-espionage

19:36 <Cepheid> Regarding that case, I'm less upset about the whole arrest, and more just how the US was handling it.  Taking it's time.

19:36 <Cepheid> It caused a lot of flak for Canada.

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19:37 <Cepheid> There was a lot of concern amongst the public that the US would use the arrest as a bargaining chip in negotiations with China, for trade.

19:39 <Cepheid> That said, I'm gonna drop the topic and get back to game.  Political discussions never end well.

19:41 <Cepheid> Aaaand that's the Butterfly A&B sets done.

19:44 * ADragonDreaming opens it back up

19:45 * Ali flops over Cepheid, hopes by the next week or two Factorio .17 will be out.

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19:46 <Cepheid> Yeah, it should be, Ali.

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20:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is Ending! Is it Panic Time?!  [ http://tinyurl.com/y6a65hj2 ]

20:08 <Cepheid> So, my mother is doing a cross-stitch for me.  It's of a pair of stereotypically-rendered black cats, with the message underneath:  "Cats welcome, others tolerated."

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21:05 <Ali> Pft

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21:48 * Ali already ate so she passes

21:48 * PinkieShy licks Ali instead

21:49 * SilverLining 's tummy rumbles

21:52 * PinkieShy hands silverLining a chocolate coated strawberry

21:53 * SilverLining politely accepts, then messily devours

22:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: (Updated) Equestria Girls - Overall Episode Guide of Shorts, Movies, Choose Your Own Adventure, and Music Videos [ http://tinyurl.com/y5lksjv5 ]

23:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2895 [ http://tinyurl.com/y42p4gxe ]

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23:38 <RazorSharpFang> Good morning.

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