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00:49 <PinkieShy> :3
00:49 <PinkieShy> Just did something for the first time in my life..
00:49 <PinkieShy> Baked a cake :D
00:50 <Schism> "Wot flavour is it?" "Boot to the head."
00:50 <PinkieShy> Using cake mix.. It was easy.. its cooling now :P
00:50 <PinkieShy> Its Yellow cake, with chocolate icing
00:50 * PinkieShy hands Schism a slice.
00:50 * Schism waves it off, alas. Isn't hungry at the moment! But it sounds good enough.
00:51 <PinkieShy> last time i had one made at home.. Was made by my grandma..
00:52 <PinkieShy> She isn't here to make cakes anymore.. So.. :(
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01:58 <DashedRainbows> welp, back to znc
02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1739 [ http://tinyurl.com/yyzda4hz ]
03:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Legendary Song Remix: bank pain - Empire Past (Ponytronic Remix) [Neurofunk/Halftime Drum & Bass] [ http://tinyurl.com/y4sgwaz5 ]
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03:39 <DashedRainbows> yum
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03:54 <Eternia> Hey everyone
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04:15 <Eternia> !hug
04:15 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3
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04:18 <PinkieShy> !lastseen DerpyBot
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04:20 <DashedRainbows> !seen DerpyBot
04:20 <DerpyBot> Look into my eyes.. 6_9
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06:32 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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06:34 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P
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06:41 <PinkieShy> Caught a crasher red handed trying to crash me
06:42 <PinkieShy> Right in the logs but the community got him.. He is Nuisaunce rank apparently.. But if i send the logs i am sure that they would be banned lol
06:42 <PinkieShy> Like game logs :P
06:44 * DashedRainbows chews on PinkieShy's hooves. Good night horses
06:45 <ConfusionRift> Have a good one! (patpats)
06:45 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/dBLpNiofxOVCFo4/status/1106361270586859520?s=19
06:48 <Cepheid> Mrning.
06:48 <ConfusionRift> Big cat and small toy. :P Also, sure went crazy with it, for a bit.
06:48 <ConfusionRift> G'Morning.
06:49 <Cepheid> How goes it?
06:50 <ConfusionRift> Pretty slow and calm. Then again, was a day off.
06:51 <Cepheid> Heh. I get today off from school myself.
06:51 <ConfusionRift> Niiice.
06:54 <Cepheid> I mean not officially, but there is no point going in. Prof is away, and the substitute just recites from the textbook.
06:55 <ConfusionRift> Aaaah. Well, that's what they often do, which is bleh.
07:02 <Cepheid> I also dislike that the substitute is soft-spoken and has a very thick accent, so understanding her is more of an exercise than the material.
07:05 <ConfusionRift> "So for the.... we then use... syntax of... goto loop..." | Excuse me. Can you speak up a bit? Can't hear you. | "...angle of...mandatory...a...when...often for...ohana..." | (sighs) I only understood ohana.
07:10 <Cepheid> More or less.
07:11 <Cepheid> What distresses me is that she said she was a program coordinator at the school, but had no idea how to use the lecture hall microphone system.
07:14 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmm.
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07:18 <Cepheid> Anyhow it's moot. I can read the textbook and figure out the material now. I've taken this course so many times I can understand the profs writing now.
07:23 <Cepheid> When I see Spitfires reaction to shoulder rubs, I have to wonder.
07:24 <Cepheid> Just how straining is it to walk around with a disconnected skeleton?
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07:28 <Cepheid> Ever time I rub the muscles and bones, I feel popping sensations. As if the muscles are swollen or in a knot. So there must be some pain associated with walking around for long periods with free-floating clavicles.
07:29 <Cepheid> Or at least stiffness or tension.
07:31 <PinkieShy> good night..
07:31 <PinkieShy> 3:31AM and i didn't realize.. thought it was like 2am >_>
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07:31 * Moongoodboy{K} muses that `goto` would probably not be so bad in Rust.
07:36 <Moongoodboy{K}> variable initialization would still be checked; borrows would still be checked /aggressively/; RAII is ubiquitous…
07:36 <Cepheid> I was wondering what this noise was. It's my dad snoring.
07:36 <Moongoodboy{K}> snrk
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07:46 <ConfusionRift> Okay, done looking into computer parts. Not gonna happen right now. Gonna check Luna Nights some more.
07:46 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: How's the story going? :P
07:52 <Cepheid> So-so. Hope to have a first draft done soon.
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07:53 <Schism> It's much too fun, this card game. ._. Though I'm terrible...!
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08:10 <Schism> Cepheid, I'm a horrible person.
08:13 <Schism> (This is why. https://pastebin.com/nRFpgw0P )
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08:17 <ConfusionRift> Well, that's a bit exploitive. The knife double jump causes her to use two knives to execute said jump at no MP cost. But you can still pick those knives up and recover MP. So you will NEVER run completely dry of MP.
08:32 <Cepheid> ... schism.
08:32 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift, I think that may have been intentional.
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08:36 <Cepheid> Hum, I need a screwdriver, a very specific one, but the only one this family has exists in my dad's car.
08:36 <Cepheid> I know where the keys for it are, etc, but the problem is that it's 4:37 AM.
08:37 <Cepheid> Going out to grab it might wake up my parents and/or make people think I'm committing theft or something.
08:37 <Cepheid> But I really want that screwdriver, 'cause my laptop's creaking due to loose screws.
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08:38 <Cepheid> ...
08:38 <Cepheid> Oh.
08:38 <Cepheid> He brought it in with him.
08:38 * ConfusionRift would lend his screwdriver set, but it would just break his monitor. :P
08:38 <ConfusionRift> Yay.
08:38 <Cepheid> Oh, no, that's my mother's purse. Apparently I can't see.
08:39 <Cepheid> But yeah, the screws in this case are miniscule, and of a special type.
08:39 <Cepheid> T4 torques.
08:41 <ConfusionRift> T4s are pretty common in screwdriver sets, especially those that have the smaller bits or for small screws.
08:41 <Cepheid> Ah, I thought they weren't common. Okay then.
08:41 <Cepheid> Even so, I don't have a screwdriver set of my own with T4s.
08:41 <Cepheid> I wonder if I can remove the hinge cover on this laptop without disassembly.
08:42 <Cepheid> The screws in it have been known in the past to come loose, so applying threadlocker to them would be a smart idea.
08:42 <Cepheid> Looks like there's enough space to remove it, so..
08:43 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I should look into the drive specs of this laptop, I have an idea.
08:43 <ConfusionRift> I got two. One for electronics, which has the special security bits like the Y and special torx one on the Xbox stuff. And the other is the common set. Both have a T4. :P
08:43 <Cepheid> See, I have an old 256GB drive in one of my old PCs.
08:43 <Cepheid> This laptop's drive is 128GB.
08:43 <ConfusionRift> 0_0
08:43 <Cepheid> It supports SATAIII drives, but I'm not sure if the dimensions are right.
08:43 <Cepheid> That said..
08:43 <Cepheid> If they are, I can slot it in.
08:44 <Cepheid> That, or just wait for my tax refund, and buy an M.2 drive.
08:44 <Cepheid> The laptop appears to have an M.2 slot.
08:44 <ConfusionRift> It's normally either a 2.5 or 3.5. I have only seen veeeery few exceptions.
08:44 <ConfusionRift> And M.2. of course.
08:44 <Cepheid> Extend the life of this sucker as much as possible. It's case may be worn down, the fan may always run 24/7, but it's stood by me.
08:45 <Cepheid> Better than my MacBook has, anyways.
08:46 <Cepheid> Eventually I'll replace it, though. It'll become a travel laptop.
08:46 <Cepheid> At the moment, my eyes are on the Dell XPS 13 Developer Model.
08:46 <Cepheid> Hum, how are NVMes coming along in price, anyways..?
08:47 <Cepheid> 1TB for $400.
08:47 <Cepheid> Seeing ~512 for $150-220.
08:47 <ConfusionRift> Blarg. I got a 2.5 500GB HDD just laying around, since it got removed from the PS4.
08:47 <ConfusionRift> I like the speed on SSDs, but the supposed limited writes gets me worried.
08:48 <Cepheid> The limited writes issue isn't as bad as it sounds.
08:48 <Cepheid> I've been using this laptop for about 4 years continually, constantly writing new data to the drive endlessly due to compiling and such...
08:50 <Cepheid> I'm still reading 128,035,676,160 usable bytes on the drive.
08:51 <ConfusionRift> Here's the thing. The current system has a 1TB hard drive that already has Win 7. Was thinking on either just upgrading to 10 and use it as I can, or getting a new SSDs in place of it. They're still a bit pricey, though not as bad as before.
08:51 <Cepheid> SSDs are nice, but..
08:52 <Cepheid> What type are you planning to go for?
08:52 <ConfusionRift> Then there's that.
08:53 <Cepheid> I've been using this laptop for nearly 5 years, writing to it's drive continuously, according to internal SMART reports..
08:53 <Cepheid> The drive capacity is still high enough that it's rounding to 100%.
08:53 <Cepheid> This is the statistic that talks about the write cycles of the NAND.
08:53 <ConfusionRift> Unsure, but I'm not getting those odd cheap ones. You know, the ones that sound like a known brand, but not really.
08:54 <Cepheid> Kingston ands Samsung are usually the reputable brands. Intel too, but you're paying a premium for them.
08:55 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, you have a choice between M.2 SATA3, M.2 NVMe, and 2.5" SATA3
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08:55 <Cepheid> If you can use NVMe, use that.
08:55 <Cepheid> By and afar, for gods sake use NVMe.
08:56 <Cepheid> SSDs have already busted the theoretical limits of SATA3.
08:56 <Cepheid> On top of that, SATA3, despite it's massive apparent throughput, is *NOT* designed for SSDs.
08:56 <ConfusionRift> Good to know.
08:56 <Cepheid> I did the research on them.
08:56 <Cepheid> SATA1-3 are designed for platter drives, and their protocol even conforms to the idea that they're using platter drives.
08:57 <Cepheid> As such, the protocol is designed in such a way that it does not take advantage of SSDs.
08:57 <Cepheid> The data throughout is fine, once transmission starts. ONCE transmission starts.
08:57 <Cepheid> Prior to that, there are severe latency issues and other problems.
08:57 <Cepheid> It also can't handle certain situations that platter drives weren't able to handle either, but SSDs can.
08:58 <Cepheid> Basically, SATA is optimized for platter drives. NVMe, meanwhile, is optimized for SSDs.
08:58 <Cepheid> The only issue being, to use it, you either need a modern motherboard, or an add-on card.
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08:59 <ConfusionRift> And there's the other problem.
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08:59 <Cepheid> What's your current motherboard?
08:59 <ConfusionRift> I mean, some of the nice and cheap motherboards are supporting it, but they're kinda treating it as a premium.
09:00 <ConfusionRift> Forgetaboutit. :P
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09:00 <Cepheid> No, seriously, tell me what it is.
09:00 <Cepheid> In any case, the add-on cards regardless are cheap.
09:01 <Cepheid> I'm seeing them for no more than ~20-30 CAD.
09:01 <ConfusionRift> This was a potential full system overhaul. But if you wanna know... it's an MSI Z97 PC Mate.
09:01 <Cepheid> Z97?
09:02 * ConfusionRift slow nods.
09:02 <ConfusionRift> https://www.amazon.com/Intel-1150-DDR3-Motherboard-Mate/dp/B01JHQUR50/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=z97+pc+mate&qid=1552640544&s=gateway&sr=8-2
09:02 <Cepheid> Mmm.
09:02 <Cepheid> I was just commenting on the Z97 'cause that's a chipset number. Recent one too. Intel.
09:03 <Cepheid> Yeah, I don't see an M.2 slot on it. That said..
09:04 <Cepheid> Let me see what I can find you for adapter cards. As long as you have a PCIe 4x or greater slot free...
09:05 <ConfusionRift> No M.2, no firewire, one USB3 set, and the six drive points are populated.
09:05 <ConfusionRift> Don't worry about it. I was thinking, if I do upgrade, the other board would have an M.2... hopefully.
09:05 <Cepheid> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6V87HX5336&Description=NVMe%20PCIe%20card&cm_re=NVMe_PCIe_card-_-17Z-0061-00052-_-Product
09:05 <ConfusionRift> Actually, I'm still floating on that.
09:06 <Cepheid> Honestly, the adapter card would be a cheaper solution.
09:06 <Cepheid> Your motherboard's fine, it's recent.
09:07 <Cepheid> I would legitimately hold off on upgrading it further.
09:07 <Cepheid> Hmm.
09:07 <Cepheid> Or not. I thought it was recent.
09:07 <Cepheid> Apparently it's 4th-gen Intel.
09:08 <ConfusionRift> It wasn an overhaul, as in modernizing to a new system. Alas, since I'm still going back and forth about it... yes. Hence why the upgrade.
09:08 <Cepheid> Fair enough.
09:08 <Cepheid> But yeah, make sure it's M.2 NVMe, if you plan to go SSD.
09:08 <Cepheid> In the meantime, if you want to use a SATA3 SSD, it'll work.
09:08 * ConfusionRift nods.
09:08 <Cepheid> It's just not at the performance level of NVMe.
09:09 <Cepheid> NVMe, the reason it's so friggen fast in the first place is that it's a protocol optimized for SSDs, and secondly?
09:09 <Cepheid> It's directly connected to PCIe.
09:09 <ConfusionRift> Nah, it's fine at the moment with the 7.2K SATA. If I do upgrade, yeah, thinking on NVMe.
09:10 * ConfusionRift nods.
09:10 <Cepheid> That is, the same bus that GPUs are connected to. It's not like, super lickety-split fast, but it's definitely a kick up from platter drives.
09:11 <Cepheid> As it is, it's still considerably slower than RAM.
09:11 <Cepheid> But at least it's getting there. And capacity is going up thanks to some Intel tech.
09:12 <ConfusionRift> That be true. They have been messing around with tech for a while.
09:12 <ConfusionRift> Especially processing units and memory modules.
09:13 <Cepheid> They came up with a layering tech for static RAM.
09:13 <Cepheid> It's fast, and it's got capacity going for it.
09:15 <Cepheid> But yeah, to compare.
09:15 <Cepheid> Common write speeds for NVMe drives are around 950MiB/sec.
09:15 <Cepheid> I just did a quick benchmark of my laptop's RAM.
09:15 <Cepheid> At the same block size a hard drive uses(4KiB), my RAM's write speed is ~9,865MiB/sec
09:16 <Cepheid> For sequential writes, anyways.
09:16 <Cepheid> Let's try random.
09:16 <Cepheid> 1,652MiB/sec
09:16 <Cepheid> Sheesh.
09:18 <Cepheid> Meanwhile the sequential write speed of the SSD in this laptop is- ... No, that can't be right.
09:19 <Cepheid> Says about 45MiB/sec.
09:19 <Cepheid> Then again, laptop's SATA3, not NVMe. I'd have to run this on my PC to get a better idea.
09:21 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmm!
09:21 <Cepheid> Looks like it's due to the frequency of fsync calls.
09:22 <Cepheid> With fsync/per N operations set to 0, I get up to 225MiB using async, block size 16KiB.
09:22 <Cepheid> And that's with just one thread, apparently.
09:24 <ConfusionRift> Eeerm, the potential board for upgrade... the rating for it is dropping pretty bad. I wonder.
09:24 * Cepheid boots up PC. o3o
09:24 <Cepheid> What's the board?
09:24 <ConfusionRift> Gigabyte Z370 HD3.
09:24 <Cepheid> Hum. No comments to give on Gigabyte, I don't use their stuff.
09:26 <ConfusionRift> I don't either, at least the boards that is. That GPUs aren't bad and their price is nice.
09:27 <Cepheid> ... Oh, right.
09:27 <Cepheid> I can't access the net with my PC's linux install 'cause no wifi.
09:27 <ConfusionRift> This MSI has been just great for the time being, and the ASUS board from back then was also really good for what it was. Too bad that outage burned it.
09:27 <Cepheid> And I don't have any of the packages required to connect my PC to wifi. :D
09:28 * Cepheid goes to make a boot key.
09:28 <ConfusionRift> Are you serious? Who sends a board with no I/O shield?!
09:28 <Cepheid> Heh.
09:28 <Cepheid> I need a new case, myself.
09:29 <Cepheid> My current one is exhibiting problems with warping metal, apparently.
09:29 <ConfusionRift> Get this monstrosity! :P Nah, just kidding. This can be... and excessive case.
09:30 <Cepheid> This case, it worked for it's purposes, but...
09:30 <Cepheid> I don't like the cooling setup. Getting access to the filters is a pain.
09:31 <Cepheid> I'm gonna do something drastic.
09:31 <ConfusionRift> o_0
09:31 <Cepheid> The only argument I have against SSDs right now is that games do not benefit a considerable amount from them.
09:32 <Cepheid> About the only game shown to benefit from running off an NVMe drive is Monster Hunter World.
09:32 <Cepheid> So I'm thinking of throwing Linux on the NVMe drive instead, for development purposes.
09:33 <Cepheid> Since as of late, I've also been sitting at my desk for development instead of always relying on my laptop.
09:33 <Cepheid> And I'll be honest, developing on this beast would be nice.
09:33 <ConfusionRift> I have been running all my games from a hybrid drive. They have been running up to speed. Then again, very few games that I have are that intense.
09:34 <Cepheid> Yeah, even The Witcher 3 doesn't benefit excessively. I mean, it's better than on a platter, but it still takes upwards of 10-20 seconds or more.
09:34 <Cepheid> But MHWorld is about the only case that shows any real difference.
09:34 <Cepheid> On the PC, it takes 0 seconds to load a quest, and switching to areas is about 5 seconds, tops.
09:37 <Cepheid> So, first things first. Backup all my saves to one of the secondary drives. Not the 4 terabyte drive. That'll be formatted for Windows.
09:37 <Cepheid> And yes, you read that number right. 4 terabytes.
09:38 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, moving to MSI. Gonna remove that Gigabyte of the list.
09:38 <Cepheid> Or, if you want to be anal about it..
09:38 <Cepheid> 3.63TiB.
09:38 <Cepheid> Since you know, powers of 10 for hard drive capacities.
09:39 * ConfusionRift points at Cepheid to his twin 6GB drives. "Yeah, this is my NAS now." :P
09:39 <Cepheid> "what is the consequence of someone got caught that his assignment was written by someone else" - Actual thread on Carleton University subreddit.
09:40 <ConfusionRift> ...
09:40 <Cepheid> I don't even know with these people anymore.
09:42 <Cepheid> I thought I was just some stupid kid who was overly confident about his skills, knowledge, etc. That I wasn't as bright as other students, etc.
09:42 <Cepheid> ...
09:42 <Cepheid> Now I'm not so sure.
09:42 <Cepheid> More and more I feel like I'm one of the few honest students around at that campus.
09:42 <ConfusionRift> At my ol' university, they treated any form of minor plagiarism almost like a crime. Copying someone else was a removal from that class, or they would actually throw you out of the university.
09:43 <Cepheid> That was the case at my college.
09:43 <Cepheid> You got a strike on your record from it, and put on probation.
09:43 <Cepheid> Do it again, kicked from the school with your reputation thrown wide.
09:45 <ConfusionRift> Hey, at least you weren't studying in tandem with two other family members who lived with you and were on the same classes, causing the facilitators to double and even triple check your work for plagiarism and copying from them. I had to make sure my work was 100% different from theirs, which was a major pain.
09:45 <Cepheid> Heh.
09:45 <Cepheid> That is true, yes.
09:45 <Cepheid> Though I imagine I was regularly put under the magnifying glass, as well.
09:46 <Cepheid> It's a red flag to see students getting near-perfect marks on all their programming assignments.
09:47 <ConfusionRift> "Huh, you know what's interesting? All your papers and work methods are completely... different. I shouldn't have bothered to go through you work some many times." | DUUUUH!!!
09:47 <ConfusionRift> *so many
09:47 <Cepheid> Heh.
09:48 <Cepheid> Yeah, fortunately for me and my sister, we're in entirely different fields, so it's irrelevant. Even then, we attended different schools.
09:48 <Cepheid> She attended carleton, different department, though.
09:48 <Cepheid> It's clear it was different, too.
09:48 <Cepheid> We discussed TAing and how it went for both of us.
09:48 <Cepheid> While I had students during my TA hours every week, she just sat around and did nothing.
09:48 <Cepheid> No one ever bothered her.
09:49 <ConfusionRift> TA hours?
09:51 <Cepheid> Where we sit around and wait for students to come bother us with questions.
09:51 <Cepheid> Usually, one to two hours each week.
09:51 <Cepheid> Her grading was also subjectively easier, from my perspective.
09:51 <Cepheid> She majored in history and such.
09:52 <Cepheid> So all of her stuff was more "Does this agree with what I was taught and know from all the books I read? If so, good job!"
09:52 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, mine was "Does it do this? Does it do *THIS*? Did they forget this? Give them a zero for this."
09:53 * ConfusionRift slowly nods.
09:54 <ConfusionRift> I got zeroed at one point because "the program didn't even initiated". Had to prove the facilitator wrong in front of the class. Blegh.
09:55 <Cepheid> I got a zero because I supplied the assignment in .tar instead of .zip
09:55 <Cepheid> In a class where Linux was the primary OS.
09:56 <ConfusionRift> That's dumber though.
09:56 <ConfusionRift> Then again, "it has to be as I want it".
09:56 <Cepheid> I actually had to give students a zero for the same reason.
09:56 <Cepheid> I felt bad about it.
09:56 <ConfusionRift> Hey, rules are rules.
09:56 <Cepheid> It actually makes little sense, given that .tar can be opened by Window's default archiving tool these days, I believe.
09:57 <ConfusionRift> I think 10 can. I know 7 doesn't know what even a .tar file is.
09:57 <Cepheid> You sure?
09:57 <Cepheid> Coulda sworn 7 supported .tar.
09:57 <ConfusionRift> Quick test!
09:57 <Cepheid> Or was it .gz?
09:58 <Cepheid> .tar should be a sufficiently easy file format to support anyways, I don't understand why Windows doesn't support it.
09:58 <Cepheid> Ah.
09:58 <Cepheid> No, I'm wrong.
09:58 <Cepheid> It doesn't support tar, Windows 7.
09:58 <Cepheid> It's Windows 10 after a certain point, though.
09:59 <ConfusionRift> Yep.
09:59 <ConfusionRift> Now, if you had 7zip already installed, then that's another story.
09:59 <Cepheid> That might be why I was confused them.
10:00 <Cepheid> Like I said though, makes no sense.
10:00 <Cepheid> It's a simple format.
10:00 <Cepheid> Assuming you use the bare minimum-spec version, it's like..
10:01 <Cepheid> A simple header, followed a sequence of file data.
10:04 <Cepheid> Well, a bit more complicated than that, but still easy.
10:04 <Cepheid> There's no compression involved.
10:04 <Cepheid> Windows, don't bother updating.
10:04 <Cepheid> You're gonna be missing in a moment.
10:04 <Cepheid> Nouveau driver dislikes my display.
10:05 <Cepheid> Sets the display to an invalid configuration, causing it to blackscreen.
10:11 <ConfusionRift> That sucks.
10:11 <ConfusionRift> A pain too.
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10:15 <ConfusionRift> And it got stupid cold again.
10:17 <Cepheid> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/259828436963557376/556057732961140746/20190315_061430.jpg I tried forcing a resolution to Nouveau, since disabling Nouveau freezes the OS.
10:22 <Cepheid> There we go.
10:24 <ConfusionRift> Oh goodness! Are... are you in the matrix? 0_0;
10:34 <Cepheid> No.
10:41 * ConfusionRift flops.
10:42 <ConfusionRift> I'll worry about parts later.
10:43 * ConfusionRift keeps going back and forth between them, and decided to just leave them on a list.
10:44 <ConfusionRift> Also, Luna Nights is reaaally going full Castlevania. :P
10:44 <Cepheid> Heh.
10:46 <ConfusionRift> Oh, a Frankenstein's monster. I wonder if- (gets hit) Yep!!! They still hurt like heck and are knife cushions!
10:55 <Schism|Nocturne> So many knives.
10:55 *** Schism|Nocturne is now known as Schism
10:55 <Schism> So many, many knives.
10:55 * Schism awakens, and decides to make some rigatoni.
10:56 <Schism> Also, I make no apologies for my earlier quote, Cepheid. XD
11:05 * DashedRainbows licks ConfusionRift and gets up on his hind hooves to beg for food
11:07 * Schism carefully safeguards his rigatoni with tons of cheese.
11:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: iTunes 3 Page Preview for My Little Pony Comic #76 Arrives [ http://tinyurl.com/y5vkkg5g ]
11:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1512 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5467ybf ]
11:08 * ConfusionRift boops DashedRainbows with a piece of cake.
11:18 <Cepheid> And huzzah, Linux up and running after much trial and error.
11:18 <Cepheid> With absolutely *NO* thanks to the Nouveau driver developers.
11:20 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah! (hears an explosion) Oh, another driver problem? :P
11:26 <Cepheid> Nah.
11:26 <Cepheid> Working fine, actually.
11:27 <Cepheid> Got it building an allyesconfig linux 5.0.2 kernel to test the 16 thread build speed.
11:27 <Cepheid> That said, my point is proven again in regards to performance of 2D GUI APIs and increasing resolutions.
11:27 <Cepheid> The fan spins up quite a lot when I do anything at 4k.
11:29 <ConfusionRift> Well, yeah. 4k can be intense to process.
11:29 <Cepheid> Especially with no 2D acceleration anymore.
11:29 <Cepheid> That's a long, bygone tech.
11:30 <Cepheid> What's really awesome though? The next jump in resolution isn't just slightly higher.
11:30 <Cepheid> The next jump is 8k, so four times the space.
11:30 * ConfusionRift nods.
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11:32 <Cepheid> We're gonna hit a point where video cards as they currently are, won't be able to handle the displays.
11:32 <Cepheid> Well, they will.
11:32 <Cepheid> They can push the framebuffer out, no problem.
11:32 <Cepheid> But if we keep having to fallback to software rendering for common functionality..
11:32 <Schism> Nouveau Network? That sounds... ...painfully familiar.
11:33 <Cepheid> Nouveau, as in nVidia open source drivers.
11:33 <Cepheid> See that link above, Schism?
11:33 <Schism> Okay, less painful. Or possibly more.
11:33 <Cepheid> That's what happens when I try to set a resolution on my GTX 970 under Linux using Nouveau.
11:33 * Schism claps. o.o "Rarely does one see such confetti nowadays."
11:34 <Schism> Oh, darnit.
11:35 <Schism> Made a big plate of pasta, and now my appetite has shrunken to that of a Filly_Nightmares after an ice cream binge.
11:35 <Cepheid> Heh.
11:35 <Schism> Tineeee.
11:36 * Schism sighs, and plomps it down into a Tupperware for now.
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11:36 <Cepheid> Seriously, why is software fallback even a thing nowadays for rendering?
11:37 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up at Schism
11:37 <Cepheid> You'd think by now with the realization that there are common APIs that need acceleration, that Khronos or Microsoft would encourage hardware manufacturers to implement acceleration for these software facets.
11:37 * ConfusionRift shrugs.
11:38 * Schism upends the tupperware into Filly_Nightmares' floof.
11:38 <Schism> Is spicy pasta and cheez.
11:38 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and rolls onto her back!
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11:42 <Schism> Huh. Four years ago, there was still a computer at a Paris airport which caused a complete shutdown of the facility when, during bad weather, it crashed. Said box was running software on Windows 3.1.
11:43 <Cepheid> Yep.
11:43 <Schism> You'd think that this would encourage people to maybe upgrade their critical infrastructure once in a while.
11:43 <Cepheid> Nope.
11:44 <Schism> Well, I know, it never will, but you'd think...
11:44 <ConfusionRift> That reminds me of something.
11:44 <Schism> Airports in the US running on Windows ME?
11:45 <Cepheid> You still see COBOL applications from the late 80s and 90s running today.
11:45 <Schism> Yeah. And FORTRAN, too.
11:46 <Schism> And where do you see these applications? Why, the financial sectors!
11:49 <ConfusionRift> McLaren has a diagnostics tool specifically made for their cars. There is an old system that still holds the diagnostics specs for their F1.
11:49 <ConfusionRift> https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/227828-the-mclaren-f1-supercar-can-only-be-serviced-with-this-ancient-compaq-laptop
11:50 <Schism> Boy, I sure am glad that Bitcoin and associated cryptocurrencies are a completely and utterly secure financial marketplace which could never be manipulated to anyone's benefit. https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mt-gox-ceo-found-guilty-of-record-tampering-likely-to-avoid-prison/
11:51 <Schism> Oh yeah, I remember seeing that a while ago, CR. Think you linked it, in fact. Is great. :3
11:53 <ConfusionRift> There are still companies running old systems from the 80s and 90s, as mentioned before. Heck, there are systems still running mainframes.
11:53 <Cepheid> You know, I just realized I haven't had a coffee yet.
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11:55 <ConfusionRift> And I believe some archives have moved to magtenic drives for storage.
11:56 <ConfusionRift> *magnetic
12:00 <ConfusionRift> Blarg, have to sleep for work. Laters!
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12:04 <Cepheid> Aaand switch to a dark theme for Hexchat, reduce resolution to 1920x1080 'cause 4k is just too hard to read even with my amazing(with glasses) eyesight.
12:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Equestria Girls Season 2 Episode 10 - ??? - Stream / Discussion [ http://tinyurl.com/y54makqq ]
12:23 <Cepheid> La-Mulana's music really influences my imagination/visions quite a bit.
12:24 <Cepheid> You know, though. For a developer who, at the time, wasn't exactly full of folks who were masters at English, they really did pick some interesting words that even I've never heard.
12:25 <Cepheid> While the song title "Interstice of the Dimention" is not exactly a grammatically perfect sentence, the word "Interstice" is an interesting choice to use, as I've never heard of it, myself. And apparently, given the context, it is the RIGHT word to use.
12:26 <Cepheid> "Interstice" is "An intervening space, especially a very small one."
12:27 <Cepheid> Thus, "Interstice of the Dimention"(Not my spelling mistake) was probably meant to be called "Interstice of Dimensions." Or it could have been called "A Space Between Dimensions." But that doesn't quite sound as awesome.
12:51 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Cepheid warms and clutches happily
12:52 * Filly_Nightmares goes sleepies on
12:52 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini
12:52 <Filly_Nightmares> I wuv you!
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12:52 <Cepheid> G'night.
12:59 <Cepheid> Geezus cripes youtube!
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12:59 * Cepheid was listening to La-Mulana music. Due to Youtube defaulting to autoplay on, the current song ended. It went to La-Mulana - Wonder of Wonders.
12:59 <Cepheid> My heart jumped out of my chest, I'm sure.
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13:09 <Cepheid> Quick, first person to name a futuristic-sounding high-end smartphone model name gets that model name added to the story, and their name added to the credits under "Thanks to"
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13:19 <FoxesFurever> hello
13:21 <Cepheid> Hoi.
13:21 <FoxesFurever> i have a crush on a black girl who is a grade below me
13:22 <FoxesFurever> she's a junior in high school, and i'm a senior in high school
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13:45 <Cepheid> Wish I could help you, but I've never dated, nor do I have plans. So I have no advice to give you.
13:48 <FoxesFurever> i just hope she feels the same way about me
13:50 <FoxesFurever> also, i just created a genderqueer alicorn oc
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14:58 <uni> hello everyone~
15:07 <Cepheid> Hello
15:08 <uni> heyo
15:08 <uni> haven't been here for some time
15:08 <Finwe> Good afternoon, my pastel-coloured equines of nongargantual size.
15:09 <Finwe> Messrs Cepheid, LibrarianofHope and uni.
15:09 * Finwe doffs his hat.
15:09 <uni> salutations, R.Adm Finwe
15:09 * Finwe hugs a uni.
15:09 * uni squeakies
15:12 <Cepheid> Morning.
15:13 <LibrarianofHope> hellooo
15:13 <LibrarianofHope> its me
15:13 <LibrarianofHope> wassa
15:16 <uni> ooh Librarian?
15:16 <LibrarianofHope> yesss
15:16 <LibrarianofHope> with extra hope goodnesss
15:17 <uni> yay
15:17 <LibrarianofHope> yayyyy
15:54 <Cepheid> ... Oh gods, did I back up my MHSave properly?
15:56 <Cepheid> Pretty sure I did.
15:57 <Cepheid> Yeah, I did.
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18:21 <LibrarianofHope> ali
18:21 * LibrarianofHope flops on ali
18:21 * Ali squeaks
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18:21 <LibrarianofHope> you dont mind if i call a charctaer ali?
18:22 * DashedRainbows sniffs Ali
18:22 <LibrarianofHope> owo
18:22 * Ali nuu's and flails
18:22 <LibrarianofHope> me or the sniif snorf?
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18:26 <Cepheid> http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2063 I want to imagine there are thousands of videos of grown men and women, dressed as scientists, going "woooooOOOOOOooooOooooOoo" and "zap zap! bang!" around the containment room.
18:28 <Schism> I want to believe that the pepperoni pizza they retrieved for the experiment was from SCP-458.
18:28 <Schism> Pfff. "D-class personnel tend to have a high mortality rate during Landing Events."
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19:03 <Cepheid> Finally the cat is laying on the perch! Just needed more bedding. Threw the base of the curtains on it, and then covered with extra sheets, unfolded and fluffed up.
19:05 <Cepheid> Of course the curtains are blackout curtains. So I can't see the danged cat now.
19:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Line of Hallmark Pony Cards [ http://tinyurl.com/y4km5ubl ]
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19:13 <Schism> Cepheid: Heh, you should take a few pictures.
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19:14 <Schism> Invisible cats are always welcome on imgur.
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19:18 <Schism> "I thought libraries were supposed to be boring." "Sure, and Celestia's throne room should be painted puce and neon green."
19:19 * LibrarianofHope uses Librarian privilege and takes Schism into L space
19:19 <LibrarianofHope> are you not entertained?
19:20 <Schism> I would be, yes.
19:20 <LibrarianofHope> great
19:21 <LibrarianofHope> im currently trying to make the must amusing library complex in can
19:21 <LibrarianofHope> the hall has cute girls and free drinks
19:21 <LibrarianofHope> the vaults have mind shattering stuff
19:21 <LibrarianofHope> still working on the middle
19:22 <Schism> The Kitchener public library has a lovely coffeeshop and reading space right by the entrance.
19:22 <Schism> Gets plenty of sun, and all that.
19:22 <LibrarianofHope> no mind shattering grimoires there?
19:23 <Schism> Well, it's a library, of course there are. Just not all /that/ mind-shattering.
19:24 <LibrarianofHope> i want to make use of the l space concept by making my main library complex a sort of shifting titanic maze
19:24 <LibrarianofHope> of the more beningn fashion
19:24 <Schism> Heh, look up the Tower of Gedden, from Chrono Cross. It's an example of a 'time crash'.
19:24 <Schism> Or look up the library from Doctor Who.
19:24 <LibrarianofHope> the planet?
19:25 <LibrarianofHope> great episode, albeit it bothered me that so much books got lost
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20:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Coupons / Life in Tartarus / Incident 2 / Pone Wars 8:6 / Dark Side 5-6 [ http://tinyurl.com/y43ka94v ]
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20:19 * Schism puts chicken drumsticks in the slow cooker. o3o
20:19 <Schism> With barbecue sauce, honey, and garlic.
20:20 <LibrarianofHope> at least you have chicken
20:20 * LibrarianofHope leeeeroy jenkinnnnnns
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20:51 <LibrarianofHope> it seems my dad is cooking another pointless drama
20:51 <LibrarianofHope> im not realated for once, but still heck
20:56 * Schism checks a clock, acquires an elixir.
20:58 <LibrarianofHope> makes sense
21:01 <Schism> "I PREFER the term treasure-hunting!"
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21:01 <LibrarianofHope> stealing with the aim of general wortld saving
21:01 <LibrarianofHope> its like a hero tax
21:13 <LibrarianofHope> schism
21:13 <LibrarianofHope> have a taco
21:13 * LibrarianofHope apllies taco
21:18 * Schism noms taco, offers LibrarianofHope some chicken drumsticks with lots of honey and garlic and barbecue sauce.
21:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> The poor chickens!
21:26 <Schism> They know what they did.
21:27 * Starlight_Glimmer hangs a sad picture of Scootaloo on Schism's fridge door
21:27 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm terrible too, I do actually have chicken wings in the oven at this very moment :3
21:28 <Schism> Hehe.
21:28 <Schism> But yeah, $.99/lb chicken drumsticks, tossed in slow cooker with enough... let's say juice... to cover it, and now I get to wait another 4 hours for the stuff.
21:37 <LibrarianofHope> im hungry
21:38 <LibrarianofHope> but my dad fought with the cooking lady and her sister, so food might not get done
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21:57 <LibrarianofHope> owo the trove has angel tomes
21:57 <LibrarianofHope> this thing has everything, so neat
21:57 <Schism> Also a ton of Shadowrun, yes.
21:58 <Schism> Also, Ponyfinder.
21:58 <LibrarianofHope> already got ponyfinder,
21:58 <LibrarianofHope> shadowrun ill get later
21:58 <LibrarianofHope> im going to study in nomine, has promise
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22:03 * Stormspark yaaaaaaaaaaaawns
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22:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Silent Falleym 2 Full Version is Available for Download [ http://tinyurl.com/yx99hebl ]
22:16 <Schism> Poor Diablo 2 speedrunner. No Eth rune at all.
22:25 <LibrarianofHope> brought to mind the blind ocarina speeed runer
22:25 <LibrarianofHope> world record just by sound cues, quite a feat
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22:37 <PinkieShy> hii :)
22:38 * PinkieShy got some 9.5 PH Alkaline water.. its so smooth to the taste.
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23:06 <Stormspark> you haven't seen pH, until you've seen something with a pH of -31.3
23:06 <Stormspark> yes the scale only normally goes from 0-14, the reason it can't *normally* go below 0 is the 0 is defined by the solvent being water. There are other things you can use
23:08 <Stormspark> this is probably the scariest thing in existence. It is more corrosive than xenomorph blood has been depicted
23:08 <Stormspark> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoroantimonic_acid
23:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2921 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6ee57cn ]
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23:18 <LibrarianofHope> its human made
23:18 <LibrarianofHope> i have the feeling a chemist really had a bad mistake day when that got made
23:21 <Stormspark> it explodes if it comes in contact with air, lol
23:22 <Stormspark> and the ONLY substance that can contain it is teflon
23:22 <Stormspark> (because teflon can't react with fluorine because it's literally nothing but repeating H-F bonds
23:22 <LibrarianofHope> ill take your word for it
23:22 <Stormspark> here's another "nope" chemical
23:22 <Stormspark> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_trifluoride
23:22 <LibrarianofHope> im a writer, my hard science grasp is nil
23:23 <LibrarianofHope> nazis were considering it for chemical warfare
23:23 <LibrarianofHope> heck, its really bad
23:23 <Stormspark> the nazis decided that it was too dangerous to be used for chemical warfare
23:24 <Stormspark> that should say something, rofl
23:24 <Schism> And then there's dimethylcadmium. http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2013/05/08/things_i_wont_work_with_dimethylcadmium
23:24 *** Sleeping_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
23:24 <Schism> >.> "Sand won't save you this time."
23:24 <Stormspark> CLF3 will set sand, water, asbestos, and glass on fire
23:25 <Schism> Stormspark, http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3100/fc03032.htm
23:25 <Stormspark> it will even set ashes and things that are thought to already be burned, on fire
23:25 <Stormspark> lol
23:25 <Stormspark> yeah pretty much
23:26 <Stormspark> the only thing you can do if there is a ClF3 spill is run away. There is no known substance that can put out a fire caused by it. Once some was spilled in a concrete warehouse. It ate right through like 4 feet of concrete, and then 12 feet of gravel. Oh, and while it's doing so it releases hydrlchloric acid and hydrofluoric acid into the air as byproducts
23:26 <Stormspark> have fun!
23:27 <Stormspark> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4l56AfUTnQ
23:27 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
23:27 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about CLF3
23:27 <Schism> Just watching that one. :3
23:28 <LibrarianofHope> soooo, its like a virus in a program
23:28 <LibrarianofHope> someone messed up and glitched reality with unstoppable fire
23:28 <LibrarianofHope> how hasnt humanity gone extinct with this kind of events
23:28 <Schism> And best of all, it then turns into fluorine gas!
23:29 <Stormspark> fluorine, chlorine, hydrochloric and hydrofluoric acid
23:29 <Stormspark> good times
23:29 <LibrarianofHope> what happens if you mix em?
23:29 <Stormspark> mix what?
23:29 <Schism> You die.
23:29 <LibrarianofHope> all tose chemicals
23:30 <Stormspark> nothing really...they're all toxic and/or corrosive
23:30 <LibrarianofHope> well yes you die, but what happens besides that?
23:30 <Stormspark> though chlorine is ok in very small amounts. Very low concentrations of chlorine smell like a swimming pool
23:30 <LibrarianofHope> heck, science is scary
23:30 * Schism also accidentally spills nitric and sulfuric acids on a cotton cloth, which, upon drying, goes up in flames.
23:30 <LibrarianofHope> why so much fire?
23:30 <Schism> Because much of chemistry is fire. o3o
23:31 <LibrarianofHope> so chemistry is fire magic
23:31 <LibrarianofHope> amazing
23:31 <Stormspark> but yeah, take ClF3 (which is a liquid under normal conditions)
23:31 <Stormspark> pour on sand
23:31 <Stormspark> it will set the sand on fire
23:31 <LibrarianofHope> do you get glass off that?
23:31 <Stormspark> well, all chemical reactions release heat and light. The only difference between corrosion and an explosion is the rate
23:31 <Stormspark> you don't get glass that way
23:31 <Stormspark> but don't worry, ClF3 will set glass on fire too
23:32 <Schism> It's great for cleaning. o3o
23:32 <LibrarianofHope> im scared of chemist now
23:32 <Stormspark> there are only two things that can contain it safely. 1) a metal, other than iron, that's been treated with fluorine, to form an insoluble fluoride layer on the surface (aluminum can be used that way)
23:32 <Stormspark> 2) teflon. Or rather, some other material coated with teflon
23:32 <Schism> In 1950, there was a one-ton spill of ClF3.
23:32 <Stormspark> ClF3 is completely non-reactive with teflon
23:33 <LibrarianofHope> owo
23:33 <LibrarianofHope> where?
23:33 <Stormspark> yeah that's where it burned through 4 feet of concrete and then like 8 feet of gravel right?
23:33 <Schism> Yeah.
23:33 <Schism> "It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers."
23:33 <LibrarianofHope> so it just burned to the core?
23:34 <LibrarianofHope> and then lit the core on more fire
23:34 <LibrarianofHope> thats the real global warming
23:34 <LibrarianofHope> im a genius!
23:34 <Stormspark> it reacts with all the surrounding materials, releasing all kinds of toxic gasses, until there is no more of it to react
23:34 <Stormspark> you just have to let it burn itself out, becasue nothing can stop it
23:34 <Schism> Oh, here you go. http://library.sciencemadness.org/library/books/ignition.pdf :3
23:34 <Stormspark> it doens't need oxygen to burn. It's a stronger oxidizing agent than oxygen itself
23:35 <Stormspark> you could put sand on the moon, and pour ClF3 on it, on the moon, and it would still set it on fire
23:35 <LibrarianofHope> what do you even need it for?
23:35 <Stormspark> even though it's a vacuum
23:35 <Schism> Well, it's used for cleaning oxides from superconductors.
23:35 <Schism> Amongst other things.
23:36 <Stormspark> In the semiconductor industry, chlorine trifluoride is used to clean chemical vapour deposition chambers
23:36 <Stormspark> it can also be used as a powerful oxidizer for rocket propellant
23:36 <LibrarianofHope> whats a semiconductor?
23:36 <Schism> <Isaac Asimov> It is clear that anyone working withing with rocket fuels is outstandingly mad. I don't mean garden-variety crazy or a merely raving lunatic. I mean a record-shattering exponent of far-out insanity.
23:36 <Stormspark> the only reason it's not used for the second, is because it's dangerous, because one wrong move and your rocket just expldoes
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23:43 <LibrarianofHope> one of my favorite youtube singers is streaming later
23:43 <LibrarianofHope> last friday was fun, the topic derailed to possesed maids
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23:49 <Coconut_Cider> hi
23:49 <LibrarianofHope> hoi
23:49 <Coconut_Cider> so i need to give you my OC
23:49 <Coconut_Cider> or someone
23:50 <LibrarianofHope> come again?
23:50 <Coconut_Cider> I need to show my character to someone
23:50 <LibrarianofHope> ahh
23:51 <LibrarianofHope> ok
23:51 <LibrarianofHope> sure, show me
23:51 <Coconut_Cider> can i post a pic?
23:51 <LibrarianofHope> if its family friendly yes
23:52 <Coconut_Cider> ok
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23:55 <Coconut_Cider> sorry i accidently exited
23:55 <Coconut_Cider> umm
23:55 <Coconut_Cider> how do i post a picture
23:56 <LibrarianofHope> use imgur
23:56 <Coconut_Cider> so i put it on imgur?
23:57 <Coconut_Cider> then send you the link
23:57 <ADragonDreaming> yes
23:58 <Coconut_Cider> is there any other way?
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