00:25 <Cepheid> I cut ye off a tad early there, sorry, Schism.
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00:25 <Schism> No worries. Whew!
00:26 <Schism> I should perhaps put on an episode or two of Nyarko-San.
00:30 <PinkieShy> Howdy Schism :)
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00:50 <Cepheid> Bah, looks like the key is one-time use and specific to BL2.
00:51 <Cepheid> So no hundreds of keys for Pre-Sequel.
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00:55 <Princess-Luna> got that site link again? wanna bookmark it
00:55 <Princess-Luna> game is DL'd at least
00:55 <Cepheid> https://www.pcgamer.com/shift-codes-borderlands-2/
00:58 <Schism> Will there be even more MLP memes in Borderlands 3? Probably!
00:59 <Princess-Luna> Does this go in the usual 'activate product' area or in an in-game thing? Because the former didn't work
00:59 <Princess-Luna> passwords that is
01:00 <Schism> It's an in-game thing.
01:00 <Princess-Luna> gotcha
01:00 <Schism> There'll be an option for Extras, then Shift Codes.
01:00 <Princess-Luna> Makes sense
01:01 <Schism> Just as a note, what these keys do is basically give you a pair of Legendary items, randomly-rolled.
01:01 <Schism> And level-appropriate to your character.
01:01 <Princess-Luna> Oh I know the keys purpose well enough
01:01 <Schism> Ah, alrighty.
01:01 <Princess-Luna> I just haven't beaten the game - I remember getting up to sanctuary, but honestly its hazy after that. xD
01:02 <lunanightwinddesktop> im gonna laugh when borderlands 3 is epic game store exclusive on PC
01:02 <lunanightwinddesktop> laugh and cry
01:02 <Princess-Luna> I don't think that'll happen
01:02 <lunanightwinddesktop> its actually pretty possible
01:02 <Princess-Luna> Possible, but I doubt it will
01:02 <Princess-Luna> Bethesda are a prime example of that, for example
01:02 <Princess-Luna> they COULD have gone to epic but chose not to
01:03 <Princess-Luna> and gearbox know darn well the numbers in steam
01:03 <lunanightwinddesktop> gearbox also knows the install base of epic game store just from the popularity of fortnite
01:04 <Schism> Ahahahaha.
01:04 <Princess-Luna> Going to both is maximising the numbers.
01:04 <lunanightwinddesktop> hell metro exodus went epic game store exclusive and they are doing ok for themselves
01:04 <Schism> You know, when I decided to get a game on the Epic Store, I was bemused by the fact that I already had an account! How could this be, I wondered, when I hadn't signed up for it? Turns out that you don't need a VALID e-mail address for an Epic Games account.
01:04 <Schism> So pardon me if I think that Epic's customer numbers are a teensy bit skewed.
01:05 <lunanightwinddesktop> have you ever played any epic games (unreal for instance) cuz having an unreal account will auto create an EGS account
01:05 <Schism> Oh, I assure you, this was not the case here.
01:06 <Schism> (Upon consideration, the notification message regarding Epic Games' account creation was likely put into the Spam folder, along with all of the other notifications from Epic.
01:06 <lunanightwinddesktop> yeah cuz i just logged out of EGS and tried to log in using an email account i keep exclusively for non gaming purposes and no login happened
01:06 <Schism> When I poked the account, and indeed recovered it, I found that it had never been used for anything at all, and that it was registered to an anonymous person from... I want to say Vietnam.
01:07 <lunanightwinddesktop> heh weird
01:07 <Schism> But yes. Epic Games' accounts are inflated, their storefront is made of road apples and Unreal Engine bugs, and their entire system is faulty to the extreme.
01:08 <lunanightwinddesktop> eh eitherway i am open to the fact that gearbox might move over cuz of the work they have done with epic before but since i have a VR headset im not abandoning steam any time soon
01:08 <Princess-Luna> I don't think there's any reason not to serve both for them
01:08 <Schism> Gearbox have had an excellent and fruitful relationship with Valve, so abandoning that platform is unlikely at worst.
01:08 <Princess-Luna> the whole series is on steam, denying a 3rd there would be...unwise
01:08 <Princess-Luna> ^
01:09 <Ali> Have you seen some games do that
01:09 * Ali coughs "Fallout 76"
01:09 <lunanightwinddesktop> Metro...
01:09 <Ali> Though that game is garbo anyway so its no loss to steam
01:09 <lunanightwinddesktop> 3rd game in the series
01:09 <lunanightwinddesktop> not on steam
01:09 <Schism> Fallout 76 is a bit of an odd duck, being the first Fallout game which specifically requires online-only play.
01:09 <lunanightwinddesktop> devs are going to EGS just based on higher profit
01:09 <Schism> (With the noted exception of the Games for Windows Live garbage back in the day which was ripped out like a bad leech.)
01:10 <Princess-Luna> I don't see any reason to NOT have Bl3 on steam where the rest are offered
01:10 <lunanightwinddesktop> why did metro exodus go EGS exclusive when the other 2 games are on steam
01:10 <lunanightwinddesktop> EGS has a higher developer profit margin
01:10 <Princess-Luna> BL2 has a pretty high install base on steam.
01:10 <Princess-Luna> it would be madness to skip that
01:11 <lunanightwinddesktop> all im saying is I am not gonna be surprised if any game decides to go EGS exclusive cuz its been shown that some games will go that way its already started happening
01:11 <Princess-Luna> I don't see why you can't entertain the notion they'd utilise both
01:11 <lunanightwinddesktop> i can entertain that notion
01:11 <Princess-Luna> thats how you maximise
01:12 <lunanightwinddesktop> yes i realize that but Epic has shown they arent above paying for exclusivity
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01:12 <Princess-Luna> I'm not sure gearbox would eschew a good known working relationship with an already guaranteed install base
01:13 <Princess-Luna> the metro games are a blip
01:13 <lunanightwinddesktop> metro, heavy rain, beyond two souls. hell i know team 17 a company that has had a great relationship with steam has moved genesis alpha one to EGS exclusive, $$$ talks
01:14 <Princess-Luna> it does, but gearbox know they can make more working on both
01:14 <Princess-Luna> and steam would probably consider upping the ante for that
01:14 <Schism> Heh. Team17 are an incredibly mercurial development studio.
01:15 <Schism> They have been since the Amiga days.
01:16 <lunanightwinddesktop> lets also look at the fact that in response to a tweet about someone worrying about if games or content will be exclusive on certain stores randy pitchford head of gear box has said "what is wrong with that? a PC is a PC who cares which store you get your games from?"
01:16 <Princess-Luna> So that just means they would consider both
01:17 <Princess-Luna> It's not a confirmation of anything
01:19 <lunanightwinddesktop> on top of that take 2 the company that owns gearbox has already moved one game off of steam to give it epic exclusivity, Obsidian Game's Control has already been moved so im just saying im not gonna be surprised if it does become exclusive
01:20 <lunanightwinddesktop> if take 2 is going hard on EGS that could even translate to the next GTA game going EGS exclusive if it ever gets announced
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02:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1755 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3s8mzcm ]
02:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Animation: Red Vs. Blue Ponies [ http://tinyurl.com/yyen8elx ]
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02:41 <RazorSharpFang> Hey Ali
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02:55 <SilentVigil> :D
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03:09 <Cepheid> "What's yer name! NOOOOO!"
03:10 <Ali> Cepheid, I swear .17's bug spawner is worse than ever
03:10 <Ali> They put a bug base RIGHT NEXT to the starting resources
03:11 <Ali> And these spawns are TERRIBLE
03:11 <Ali> Nothing is close to the water
03:14 <RazorSharpFang> I like to generate maps until I find one I like.
03:14 <Ali> I was RazorSharpFang
03:15 <Ali> And every map it generated either had bugs right on top of you, or the main spread of resources extremely far away from water.
03:15 * PinkieShy hands Ali a jacket with a diamond implanted into it
03:16 <RazorSharpFang> You can make the starting area bigger which gives you more room before bugs can spawn
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06:16 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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06:27 <RazorSharpFang> You know those older wind turbines you see on farms with many blades like a fan? What angle of attack into the wind do they have?
06:28 <ConfusionRift> They normally face the wind.
06:29 <RazorSharpFang> I mean the individual blades of the fan.
06:29 <RazorSharpFang> They're slightly angled away so they rotate, but at what angle?
06:36 <ConfusionRift> I'm tempted to say 35 degrees, but it seems it has to be calculated, and I'm no good at that.
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06:51 <Golden> I won my second game of warhammer 40k!!!
06:51 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah!
06:52 <Golden> It was a 2 v 2. Raven Guard, and Dark angels vs the forces of chaos.
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06:54 <Golden> It was first side to lose all their vehicles lose. Chaos had two, and the Imperium had five
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07:02 <ConfusionRift> Nice.
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07:10 <RazorSharpFang> ConfusionRift, I'm unsure myself. I'm going to try 30 degrees normal to the wind.
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08:23 <Moongoodboy{K}> >Maybe you /should/ leave the castle after all. And go somewhere less…/flammable?/
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08:23 <Moongoodboy{K}> whhh…it's made of CRYSTAL, Twilight!
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09:46 <Tirek> Castles are supposed to be non-flammable by default, since they're typically made from a stone.
09:57 * ConfusionRift sees the crystal castle catch fire. 0_0; "It wasn't me!"
09:57 * DashedRainbows chews on ConfusionRift's hooves and wags her tail
09:58 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P
09:58 <Tirek> https://instaud.io/3uhu Here's a thing.
10:00 <ConfusionRift> As usual, misa likes. :P
10:01 <ConfusionRift> Guessing going for an oriental theme?
10:01 <Tirek> Yeah.
10:01 <ConfusionRift> Not sure why I'm reminded of Spyro.
10:02 <Tirek> Boss is almost done, and I got two more songs to write for him.
10:05 <ConfusionRift> But do like the rhythm and how it feels. Very active, but doesn't feel incredibly crowded.
10:06 <ConfusionRift> Man, I would pay for a commission. :P
10:06 <Tirek> Boss thinks the same way, but I'm doing this because I want to, so.
10:06 <ConfusionRift> Oh of course, I getcha.
10:07 <Tirek> He wants to do commercial game development soon, and he'll pay me when he starts his next project.
10:07 <Tirek> I trust him, we've been friends for years.
10:08 * ConfusionRift thinks of his character, then retracts. "Maybe once this guy is fully... fully. You know."
10:09 <Tirek> Fair enough.
10:19 <ConfusionRift> I do have have the other two more figured out, but still. I hate when a theme is stuck in my head, and then just poofs away.
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10:59 <ConfusionRift> Blarg, have to get ready for work later on. Laters!
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11:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1528 [ http://tinyurl.com/y422e26j ]
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13:40 <Schism> Happy snowfall.
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14:18 <Schism> Hm, yup, that's about 4cm of snow outside.
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14:43 <Schism> "Eric Davisson contributes a 512-byte game for the PC BIOS on page 9."
14:48 * Schism snickers: "Just use 7-bit ASCII if your language doesn't require funny letters, as whenever we receive something typeset in OpenOffice, we briefly mistake it for a ransom note."
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14:49 <Schism> Cepheid: I suspect you might appreciate this publication.
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15:07 <ADragonDreaming> aye, there's snow outside.
15:09 <Schism> "Never patch an original disk. Never reduce the number of original disks in the world. They aren't making any more of them." -4am
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16:09 * Cepheid awakens.
16:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Love Letter Music: Ocean Melody - Beautiful Land [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/yyvmly32 ]
16:11 <Cepheid> Bah, I can't wear head phones, no matter what I do.
16:13 <Schism> Cepheid: Eugh. Hopefully that'll pass soon.
16:13 <Schism> At least you can't get your speakers backward.
16:13 <Cepheid> Yep.
16:13 * Schism hears gunfire on his left, turns left, sees no Nomads there, gets eaten.
16:15 <Schism> So, you get a nice good snowfall last night too, Cephy?
16:16 <Cepheid> A small amount. Most of it's already melted on the roads.
16:16 * Schism nodnods.
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16:25 <Cepheid> Honestly, the biggest problems with the latest issues with my nose is that A) Itchy eyes, no matter what I do, and B) I can't breathe through my nose all that well, and it feels itchy all over inside.
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16:28 <Cepheid> Huh, apparently, to measure the circumference of the observable universe, we only need ~40 digits of Pi to accurately measure it down to the accuracy of an atom of hydrogen.
16:32 <Schism> Yup.
16:37 <Schism> I'm sure knowing more digits is nice, in some way or another, but ultimately it's just a ludicrous degree of precision that's functionally meaningless for most purposes.
16:50 <Schism> Oh, and the number of digits required to define the circumference of the universe down to a single proton is... 42. How appropriate.
16:51 * Schism reads the specifications of the Mac battery which lets it be overcharged, thus exploding.
16:51 <Schism> Macbook, that is.
16:54 <Cepheid> Huh.
16:54 <Cepheid> They also kinda just explode on their own, I learned.
16:55 <Cepheid> My MacBook, which I'm tossing as it's garbage for the most part(Though I can just buy a second/third-party battery for it)...
16:55 <Cepheid> It's battery, after a few years, started to suddenly expand.
16:55 <Schism> Hmm. o3o; Yeah, though that's... less a firmware thing and more an 'old battery' thing.
16:56 <Schism> In this particular case, for a particular variety of Macbook, the firmware had the default password.
16:56 <Schism> But there are some interesting notes on the spec. https://media.blackhat.com/bh-us-11/Miller/BH_US_11_Miller_Battery_Firmware_Public_WP.pdf
17:06 <Cepheid> Yeah, microprocessor everything is commonplace.
17:07 <Cepheid> It's actually the safest way to make sure stuff doesn't break. Provided it's done right.
17:07 <Cepheid> Hell, I think microprocessors are used for loading the BIOS/UEFI in modern systems these days, since you can boot a PC with a broken BIOS/UEFI and get into a recovery program.
17:08 <Cepheid> To reflash the BIOS/UEFI in the event of say, a previous flash being interrupted.
17:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Plushiequest [ http://tinyurl.com/y5tjlpfv ]
17:13 <Cepheid> I'm... actually kind of trying to figure out why that was never a thing from the start.
17:13 <Cepheid> It's common sense.
17:14 <Cepheid> Have the initial version of the BIOS/UEFI for the board stored on a one-time-programmable ROM. On boot, have a microprocessor check the contents of the board's EEPROM, and if the contents are fine, load that into RAM and hand over control to the CPU.
17:15 <Cepheid> If the EEPROM's contents are damaged/unverifiable, or a key combination is held down, load the one-time-programmable ROM contents into RAM and hand control over to the CPU.
17:15 <Schism> Many things we take as 'common sense' these days were only introduced after a flash of 'oh, right' hit the developers.
17:15 <Cepheid> The key combo approach is in the extremely unlikely event that somehow, the contents of the EEPROM somehow verify as "okay" when they aren't.
17:16 <Cepheid> Of course, that can just outright be avoided by using a good, known-secure hashing algorithm to create a hash of the EEPROM after flashing, and storing it in another EEPROM.
17:16 <Cepheid> Of course, the problem here is that this all increases the electronics involved.
17:17 <Cepheid> So perhaps, as a cost cutting measure, it wasn't implemented.
17:27 <Cepheid> o/` What makes a good maaaan~? o/`
17:30 <Schism> "Good men don't need rules. Now is not the time to find out why I have so many." --the Doctor
17:38 <Cepheid> Myself, I don't think I'm a "good man" or "good person."
17:40 <Schism> Also, "Mercy is the mark of a great man." *shot* "Guess I'm just a good one." *shot, shot* "Well, I'm alright."
17:41 <Schism> Stab, rather. XD;
17:42 <Cepheid> Heh.
17:42 <Cepheid> You know what?
17:43 <Cepheid> For ****s and giggles, I'm going to design a new protocol for something.
17:43 <Schism> Oh?
17:43 <Cepheid> A standardized protocol to enumerate and talk to all LED controllers in a computer.
17:43 <Cepheid> And the protocol is going to include one, specific command.
17:43 <Cepheid> "Turn yourself off, please."
17:44 <Schism> Hah, yes.
17:45 <Cepheid> And it's gonna be implemented in a simple, easy-to-read format.
17:45 <Cepheid> They don't need to be binary bit patterns.
17:48 <Cepheid> It's just..
17:48 <Cepheid> Gods.
17:48 <Cepheid> It's annoying.
17:49 <Cepheid> My video card has a Power LED to indicate it's getting enough power. The backplate is basically one large LED-lit panel.
17:49 <Cepheid> Then I have the CPU cooler, which has LEDs in the fan blade bearing core, and then LEDs in a ring around the cover of the cooler.
17:49 <Cepheid> Then there's a portion next to the backplate of the motherboard that's got LEDs in it.
17:50 <Cepheid> None of these can be permanently turned off.
17:50 <Cepheid> In the computer's soft-off state(The state when a computer is "powered off" essentially), all the LEDs stay on.
17:50 <Cepheid> The BIOS/UEFI has options to turn some of them off, but it doesn't seem to stick.
17:51 <Cepheid> The only permanent way to turn them all off is to hit the PSU switch.
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17:52 <Cepheid> And the current protocol for the LEDs that I can control are proprietary.
17:52 <Cepheid> There doesn't appear to be any standardized protocol, either.
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18:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Avengers: Endgame - Pony Edition Trailer [ http://tinyurl.com/yxg6lp49 ]
18:10 <Schism> Cepheid: But whyever would you want to turn off the blinkenlighten, manufacturers around the world ask.
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18:16 <Cepheid> Schism: I'm pretty sure I can pull up a number of scientific articles on the effects of light on sleeping conditions.
18:16 <Schism> Yes, I know.
18:16 <Cepheid> I know you're being sarcastic. I was ruining it. :P
18:17 <Ali> Hey Cepheid, I know you don't use bots like Razor does, but in .17 they seem a bit more....dumb?
18:22 <Cepheid> Ali, I have not played .17 yet.
18:23 <Cepheid> I can't comment on anything.
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18:49 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New My Little Pony Season 9 Opener Animatic Over on Instagram [ http://tinyurl.com/y4xdsuy5 ]
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19:13 <Schism> Kan, full flush, tsumo, three dora. <3
19:30 <Schism> That was fun, went from 2000 points to second place with 28,000.
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20:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2936 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4e7mjql ]
20:10 <Cepheid> Interesting. Borderlands 2 is also CPU-bound.
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20:26 * Schism attempts to solo Nael Deus Darnus. (Bahamut, T9.) It doesn't go well.
20:26 <Schism> Music remains excellent of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DX3qIf4EDc
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21:49 <Cepheid> One of these days, I should pick up a simple, Japanese kids game, and play through it with the intent to improve my Japanese.\
21:57 * DashedRainbows sniffs PinkieShy and barks
22:01 * Schism acquires the Alpha Card. "Phew."
22:03 * PinkieShy smells of chicken
22:03 <PinkieShy> BBQ Chicken :D
22:03 * PinkieShy gives DashedRainbows headpats
22:11 * Cepheid finally pays for the DLC of Dragon MFD. Starts up an Empress character, too. o3o
22:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Ponies Sing: Disney Songs Part 2 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4ec2j3r ]
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23:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #319 [ http://tinyurl.com/y69qb6nx ]
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