00:09 <Cepheid> You don't understand.
00:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: Now That We Have a Season 9 Intro, What Do You Want Out of the Finale? [ http://tinyurl.com/y5hpmwtf ]
00:09 <Cepheid> That weapon is amazing.
00:10 <Cepheid> The clip size is misleading.
00:10 <Cepheid> The gun itself doesn't consume any ammo.
00:10 <Schism> Oh. OH. You mean the pistol.
00:11 <Schism> Infinity pistol is awesome weapon, yes.
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00:11 <Schism> Adra, you should also see Cepheid's new pistol in BL.
00:11 <ADragonDreaming> oh?
00:11 <Schism> Also, are you alright, Adra? You sound like you're kind of flopping into here.
00:13 <ADragonDreaming> I am alright.
00:13 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/8GmSfSR.jpg Resolute Infinity
00:13 <Schism> I'll take your word for it, but lemme know if you wanna talk.
00:13 <ADragonDreaming> nah, there's nothing huge going on.
00:13 <Schism> Get some sleep then.
00:14 <ADragonDreaming> Last week at work I was training folks, which is a certain amount of draining
00:14 <Schism> Better idea. Join Cepheid in a bit of Borderlands. You'll feel better after shooting people.
00:15 <ADragonDreaming> this week at work I am on chat support, which is annoying as it distracts from other tasks at work.
00:16 <ADragonDreaming> also, which version of borderlands?
00:17 <PinkieShy> okay that Season 9 Q&A panel video is cool.
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00:18 <Cepheid> Ya done pissing me off, game?
00:18 <ADragonDreaming> because I only have Borderlands 1
00:19 <ADragonDreaming> also my parents are watching NICS
00:20 <ADragonDreaming> ncis
00:20 <ADragonDreaming> I mean
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00:22 <Cepheid> Okay game, enough of this.
00:23 <Schism> Cepheid, they're running it if you want to hear Sniff's voice.
00:25 <PinkieShy> !seen straight
00:25 <DerpyBot> PinkieShy: The last time I saw....will you cut that out already?!
00:26 * Ali boops PinkieShy
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00:27 * PinkieShy sneezes on Ali
00:27 * PinkieShy hands Ali tissues.
00:27 * Ali drapes tissues on PinkieShy nosie
00:41 <Schism> MwahahahahahHAHAHA.
00:42 <Schism> That is EXACTLY what I was watching for.
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00:54 <Cepheid> I just killed Rakkman.
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01:09 <Cepheid> Gods, done with this area. Peevin' me off.
01:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: (Ponified Star and the Forces of Evil Animation:The Curse of the Blood Moon [ http://tinyurl.com/y5s3wadm ]
01:49 <Schism> Cepheid: Yup, the dance is pure Sniff.
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01:55 <Schism> Pfff. X3 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372450146044084225/565716434030690344/riess-aion-ffxiv.png
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01:57 <ADragonDreaming> eh?
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02:02 <Schism> There's a new dance in FFXIV which is...
02:02 <Schism> IT's interesting...
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02:09 <ADragonDreaming> ah
02:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1766 [ http://tinyurl.com/yy6umxpt ]
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02:36 <Cepheid> Right, so, in regards to the whole "easy mode" controversy, is there any real reason developers are "getting involved" in the argument, trying to convince the naysayers, etc?
02:36 <Cepheid> Could the developers just go "Meh." Implement the easy mode, and just simply, ye know..
02:36 <Cepheid> Ignore the idiots?
02:36 <Cepheid> Like, why even give a *BLEEP* what the people who argue against an easy-mode think?
02:36 <Cepheid> Their friggen problem, not yours.
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02:39 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Patton Oswalt Talks About Upcoming "Common Ground" Episode And Acting It With His Daughter [ http://tinyurl.com/y5k8k5g7 ]
02:42 <ADragonDreaming> what easy mode controversy?
02:43 <PinkieShy> new gpu drivers.. >_> gonna have ot reboot..
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02:49 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming: Sekiro, the latest game by From Software. Some people commented on cheating. With others asking for an easy mode.
02:51 <Cepheid> Which is a totally fair request. Eeeeexcept for the Triple A-holes who insist that games shouldn't have easy-modes, cheats, etc, because in doing so, *THEIR* accomplishments are made to look... I dunno, not as great?
02:51 <Cepheid> Something like that, anyways.
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02:53 <Cepheid> Long story short, kids, people with disabilities, and the average video game player, requested easy mode/cheats/accessibility functionality. The holier-than-thou, git-gud, arrogant, self-righteous, e-****-growing(Both genders), don't want it.
02:53 <Cepheid> Because it invalidates their accomplishments.
02:53 <Cepheid> My stance is pretty straightforward. Ignore the latter group outright.
02:53 <Cepheid> Don't even listen to their arguments for their cases, because their case is completely detrimental.
02:54 * Ali snerks at Megaman Easy Mode but didn't complain about it since ITS AN OPTION YOU DON"T HAVE TO CHOOSE IT
02:55 * DashedRainbows boops Ali
02:55 * Ali squeaks at DashedRainbows
02:56 <DashedRainbows> squeaky horsey
02:56 <Cepheid> That's the reasoning behind my stance, Ali.
02:56 <Cepheid> It's optional. The only impact it has on the whiners is that it affects the validity of their life.
02:56 <Cepheid> Which is, in my opinion, of absolutely no consequence or relevance to me.
02:56 <Ali> I have 100% Megaman 11 on two systems, easy mode didn't change any of that.
02:57 <Ali> And trust me, some of the achievements aren't easy
02:59 <Ali> Cepheid, Beat Megaman 11 on normal mode or harder in 60m, only 1.3% on steam
02:59 <Cepheid> Heh.
03:00 <Cepheid> Yeah, I pulled a time-related achievement once or twice myself.
03:00 <Ali> The Doctor Light Trail is only 1.1%
03:00 <Cepheid> Torchlight, finish game in 5 hours. Even on the easiest difficulty this is tricky to do because you're basically rushing down as quickly as possible. By the time you get to the bottom, you're so under-leveled that you may as well be playing on the hardest difficulty, in relation to the final boss.
03:01 * Ali nods
03:03 <Ali> I have some tough to get achievements, but for Megaman I had to earn those and I'm glad I got them
03:03 <Ali> Twice even X.x
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03:04 <PinkieShy> Only on for a few minutes to an hour :P
03:05 <PinkieShy> road trip tomorrow.. going to state of Georgia till sunday
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03:08 <Pony|27478> hewwo how is everypony and such?
03:08 <Cepheid> Right, I need to sleep, myself.
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03:10 <Sappire> how active is equestria daily now days?
03:11 <PinkieShy> hmm.. do you guys think $25 activation and upgrade fees are a bit over the top for a prepaid network or not every network can be "Free" from upgrade and activation fees?
03:11 <Ali> Not much anymore
03:11 <Sappire> good bye then
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03:12 <PinkieShy> :O
03:12 <Ali> >.<
03:15 * DashedRainbows mehs
03:17 <PinkieShy> dang it.. :/
03:18 <PinkieShy> pinky finger joints are hurting..
03:18 <PinkieShy> :(
03:19 <DashedRainbows> I really hope matrix catches on, I'd hate for some centralized closed protocol to become more common
03:43 <PinkieShy> My back is hurting to the point.. I feel feel like just laying down..
03:44 <PinkieShy> and sink into my foam until 6am
03:44 <DashedRainbows> aww
03:45 * Ali gives PinkieShy ibuprofin
03:54 <PinkieShy> Ali already took some.. 30 minutes ago.. No help at all..
03:54 <Ali> Sometimes it takes awhile to kick in >.<
03:55 <PinkieShy> well I'm going to bed.. gotta be up early.. night.
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04:53 <RazorSharpFang> I am a bit sad about my job ending, but at least I have other jobs to work.
04:53 <RazorSharpFang> They just don't pay as well. :shrug:
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04:54 <Filly_Nightmares> Aw
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06:25 * Schism rolllls into the channel, and boops Filly_Nightmares wif some cheesy potato hashbrowns!
06:25 * Ali boops Schism
06:26 * Schism headtilts at the Ali. Offers a forkful of hashbrowns?
06:34 * Ali ish not hungry right now, snugs Schism
06:34 * Schism snugs the Ali back, offers a cup of hot lemon-and-honey tea instead.
06:35 <Schism> (It can be decaf tea.)
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06:46 <RazorSharpFang> Tea has coffee?
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06:49 * Schism boops the Surry again once more! This time, with some choklit coffee /cake./
06:49 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
06:49 <Finwe> Mlles Ali and Filly_Nightmares, Messrs RazorSharpFang and Schism.
06:49 * Finwe doffs his hat.
06:50 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe!
06:50 * Schism doffs his lemon butter cupcakes.
06:51 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Schism
06:52 * Schism headtilts, and offers Filly_Nightmares some orange and pistachio cupcakes?
06:52 * Filly_Nightmares noms Schism!
06:52 * Schism flails! Is not /really/ made of food!
06:53 * Finwe hats on Ali.
06:53 * Filly_Nightmares noms Schism moar!
06:54 * Ali squeaks at Finwe
06:54 <Schism> "You're a huge target for a really nasty strain of manavores. Void mites, or blits, I've heard them called. They'll latch on and eat you alive in exchange for a short boost in power. Only some folks fall victim, but the folks who do don't go down in history very well."
06:57 <Schism> "That... sounds like something you just made up." "Sh. You want /everyone/ to know?"
07:00 * Schism also finally siiiiiiighs, and provides Filly_Nightmares wif cuddles.
07:06 <Schism> "Just do what I do. Stay calm, and have another sip of tea." "What do you usually spike these with?" "Orange bitters. My staff carefully avoid noticing, believing me immune to toxins." "And your visitors, who believe you take your tea black?" "On a good day, I drink earl grey. On a bad, orange pekoe." "I approve."
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07:09 <Finwe> Schism: Nasty strain of manoeuvres?
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07:13 <Schism> Finwe, yeah, they all believe that leading with infantry is the way to go, and that's a particularly infectious belief.
07:15 <Finwe> My dear, indeed, that seems to be the case.
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07:18 * Finwe is astray.
07:19 <Finwe> I have holiday until 16th of April. Whatever am I to do?
07:19 <Schism> Thaumavorous, or manavorous, creatures are a common enough thing in magical worlds, especially Equestria. One such example is of course the parasprite, but there are other creations, such as the comparatively helpful changeling or the perennially-useful babel fish, which helps many a pony.
07:20 <Finwe> This reminds me of the babel fish dispenser in Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy text adventure game.
07:20 <Schism> Can't imagine why.
07:20 <Finwe> o3o
07:20 * Finwe boops Schism.
07:20 <Schism> Hmm, there are options for amusing yourself...
07:21 <Schism> Did you know that the Archive has a wide variety of DOS games?
07:21 <Schism> You could go back and play a handful of Infocom titles.
07:21 <Finwe> In order to figure out how to get a fish from the dispenser, you need a number of tries equal to the number of fish in the dispenser.
07:21 <Schism> Yup. So you need to reload in order to get it out.
07:22 <Finwe> Meaning that you need to go back to your last save to actually get one.
07:22 <Schism> You also need to dike out your common sense in order to have both tea and no tea.
07:22 <Finwe> If you have a staff, I will give you one. If you have no staff, I will take it away from you.
07:23 * Schism smacks Finwe with a staff.
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07:24 <Finwe> Hmm, it was, "When you have a staff, I will give it to you. If you have no staff, I will take it away from you."
07:24 <Schism> As I recall, the student broke the staff over his knee before the master could take it.
07:24 <Finwe> Mumon's vomment: When there is no bridge over the creek the staff will help me. When I return home on a moonless night the staff will accompany me. But if you call this a staff, you will enter hell like an arrow.
07:25 <Finwe> Umm, "comment".
07:25 <Schism> Oh yes. Finwe, the current Epic Games store freebie is The Witness, which is a game worth playing but, its creator being what he is, not worth paying for.
07:25 <Schism> Well, not more than once anyway.
07:26 <Schism> Credit where it's due, it's a good puzzler.
07:29 <Finwe> Let's see if my graphics card and CPUs can manage it.
07:29 <Schism> It's about 4 years old, so I imagine it will.
07:30 <Finwe> I have Radeon HD 5870 in my Mac Pro. :3
07:30 <Schism> Oddly, I think that'll still work out.
07:30 <Finwe> It's way older than mere 4 years.
07:30 <Finwe> "The Radeon HD 5870 was a high-end graphics card by ATI, launched in September 2009."
07:31 <Schism> Ehh, nah, you should be fine.
07:31 <Finwe> Schism: Well, they list Intel HD Graphics 4000 as minimum requirement.
07:31 <Schism> Most of the puzzles aren't particularly time- or frame-sensitive either.
07:32 <Finwe> Hmm, Epic Games launcher required.
07:32 <Schism> For installation, yes. For launching the game, not so much.
07:32 <Schism> But be prepared to already have an Epic Games account on your primary e-mail address.
07:34 <Schism> It turns out that Tim Sweeney doesn't really learn much from history.
07:34 <Finwe> Erm, the game requires OS X 10.11.6, which I have installed, but the launcher requires OS X 10.12.3.
07:34 <Schism> Ah crap. Sorry. :<
07:35 <Finwe> Which won't install on a machine this old.
07:35 <Finwe> Well, I have another desktop computer with Win 10, 3rd generation Core i5 CPU and GeForce GTX 645.
07:36 <Schism> I'd never suggest piracy or the casual acquisition of said titles. That Would Be Wrong.
07:37 <Schism> But if you have a legal copy on /one/ platform...
07:37 <Schism> (Finwe: Still have yet to play URU Live with you.)
07:38 <Finwe> Hmm, if I could get my hooves on an older version of Epic Games installer...
07:41 <Finwe> I'll try with homebrew first.
07:42 <Schism> It's a platform akin to Steam, which force-updates.
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08:02 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
08:04 * Schism rolls over to ConfusionRift, and boops with a croque monsieur.
08:05 * ConfusionRift noms it. "Thankies!"
08:19 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
08:19 <Finwe> o7
08:21 * Finwe noms on pollock provençal.
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08:26 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
08:29 * Schism looks at Dandara, and shakes his head. "This is possibly the worst game control system I have ever seen."
08:32 <Schism> It's not the worst idea ever. But they don't capture the mouse properly, so the movement -- based on the mouse's position -- becomes inaccurate and hideous.
08:33 <Schism> This is something of a concern when it's a precision game.
08:34 <ConfusionRift> Blarg.
08:35 <Schism> And yes, I'm comparing it to Hammerfight.
08:35 <Schism> (Which is a bundle of fun too, but ye gods.)
09:16 * Filly_Nightmares licks Schism\
09:20 * Schism certainly doesn't offer Filly_Nightmares some chocolate chip chocolate fudge brownie cookies with triple-chocolate ice cream. That would be terribly, terribly unhealthy.
09:23 * Schism does, however, offer bellyrubs. (And possibly some ice cream and cookies too. When nobody's looking.)
09:28 * ConfusionRift remembers how infuriating BL1 was. Especially with how loot worked.
09:30 <ConfusionRift> "The remastered version fixed everything" my butt!
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09:58 * Filly_Nightmares mewls and rolls onto her back for Schism
09:58 <Schism> "Anyone who engages in horseplay in my class will be summarily ejected. Whether or not that ejection involves explosives, I will leave as an exercise to the listener, but considering that we will be working with nitroglycerin here, no leaps of imagination should be required."
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10:19 * Filly_Nightmares uses Schism as a bed and ConfusionRift as a blankie
10:19 * Filly_Nightmares goes sleepies on!
10:19 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini!
10:19 <Filly_Nightmares> I wuv you!
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10:43 <Cepheid> Morning.
10:44 <Cepheid> And yeah. Dandara is best played using a gamepad.
10:49 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Totally Legit Recap: "School Raze" (Part 2) [ http://tinyurl.com/y6zy2ggm ]
10:52 * ConfusionRift wavies.
11:07 * Cepheid dances atop ConfusionRift's head. Sings along to Devil Trigger.
11:08 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/NYCACC/status/1114602204680396801?s=19
11:11 <Cepheid> I've heard of fat cats but that's not what I had in mind.
11:11 <ConfusionRift> That's a pretty big cat.
11:13 <Cepheid> Yep.
11:13 <Cepheid> In other news, I am going insane. I want exams to be over.
11:16 <Cepheid> I want to get back to code. But i tood myself I wouldn't until exams are over.
11:18 <ConfusionRift> Shouldn't be long, no?
11:19 <Cepheid> 25th.
11:19 <ConfusionRift> ...never mind.
11:20 <Cepheid> I got two exams on Saturday and Sunday, then I wait until the 25th for my last final.
11:23 <Cepheid> ... Ye know...
11:24 <Cepheid> I was under the impression that companies like Activision and such had thd capacity to learn new stuff.
11:24 <Cepheid> But despite repeatedly spelling out that they can't do this human/woman's rights violation, they keep doing it.
11:24 <Cepheid> They are tracking pregnancies.
11:25 <ConfusionRift> ...excuse me?
11:25 <Cepheid> What part of how this is wrong is so hard to understand?
11:25 <Cepheid> They are tracking the pregnancies of their female employees to make sure work time is not wasted and such.
11:26 <ConfusionRift> Oh, I thought it was more broad, but still. That's a big no-no/
11:27 <Cepheid> Theres more to it, I haven't read the full article, so it could be much worse.
11:27 <ConfusionRift> I also noticed that many gaming companies are starting to do some really weird and questionable decisions. This being one of them.
11:27 <Cepheid> Anyways, brb.
11:32 <Cepheid> The thing that bothers me about this the most is that they act like these kinds of questionable actions are standard business practices. As if they learned them from a school.
11:33 * ConfusionRift nods.
11:33 <Cepheid> Some of them act shocked or are genuinely distressed at the response to such practices. Like they were expecting it to not raise a fuss. As if they were told by lawyers, business consultants and leaders that this is a logical step.
11:34 <Cepheid> As if it was completely normal. They learned it from business school from instructors or professors.
11:36 <Cepheid> In fact I am also curious as to why the lawyers don't seem to convince them that these practices are illegal.
11:36 <Cepheid> If anything I would be distressed if the lawyers didn't say anything.
11:37 <Cepheid> Because it means that they aren't doing their job.
11:37 <ConfusionRift> It's hard to tell. But it's either them acting dumb at something they KNOW clearly violates rights, or them following something that their law staff twists in a way to make it look like it's not illegal.
11:37 <Cepheid> Which means they are either lazy, or some of the worst kinds of lawyers to have around. The ones that get you into trouble and don't win cases.
11:38 <ConfusionRift> Or ones that think they can skim their way out of it unscathed.
11:38 <Cepheid> I'm inclinee to believe the problem is multi-layered. CEOs, management, lawyers, professors, instructors and consultants.
11:39 <Cepheid> Multiple people either just outright ignoring the law, twisting the law, or expressing views, concepts and ideas that violate the law.
11:39 <ConfusionRift> It definitely is. It's just hard to tell exactly how it gets to this point.
11:41 <Cepheid> Unfortunately that one I can answer.
11:41 <Cepheid> It's about money and power. Companies are about making as much money as possible. People also like having control or power over others.
11:42 <Cepheid> Thus, they will combine the two into discrimination. They have the power to invade the rights of those below them, or so they think. They can also set their wages, compensation and such.
11:44 <Cepheid> It's a cycle. They pick a group, deminish it, cut wages and compensation as far as they can until it causes controversy. They then 'fix' it and make themselves look like pariahs. All while they target a new minority or easily-abused group.
11:45 <Cepheid> Which people overlook because they are either still reeling down from their earlier outrage, no one in the new group is saying anything, or worse, no one cares anymore because it isn't affecting them.
11:45 <Cepheid> Watch. Once the sexism and feminism cases die down, you'll start hearing of another group having their rights violated by the same companies a few months later.
11:49 <Cepheid> Hell, the US already has a head start on the next group. Been seeing indications that muslims are being target in the gamedev workd for discrimination.
11:56 <ConfusionRift> That one doesn't surprise me at all. There are other reports of cases of discrimination by religion and gender still.
12:02 <ConfusionRift> To be completely honest, I have been having problems with game development in general.
12:02 <Cepheid> It is one of the most heavily abused fields, due to how profitable it is.
12:03 <ConfusionRift> Maybe I'm stuck in the "still looks unpolished and unfinished" thing, also how everyone is just jumping ship to some really stupid ideas.
12:03 <ConfusionRift> The whole law problem being part of that.
12:03 <ConfusionRift> Well, it's also a really easy field to target.
12:07 <ConfusionRift> I meant a field that's easy to target. By no means gaming development is easy.
12:10 <Cepheid> Yeah I am aware. It is a scapegoat field. Something easy to get pissed off at, blame, etc.
12:10 <Cepheid> Though, and I am certain this is gonna agitate someone here, I hold the US responsible for that problem.
12:12 <ConfusionRift> I... okay, ain't arguing about that. I do agree.
12:15 <Cepheid> I won't lie, the response and behaviour makes the US look bad for a number of reasons. The one reason I'm picking out in particular is that it seems like people in the US are unwilling to take responsibility for what happens. Within country and around the world. They would sooner blame someone or something else.
12:20 <Cepheid> In any case, it is just one issue affecting the blame game of... Well.. games.
12:21 <Cepheid> The other big one is the difference in Western and Eastern culture. In particular, what is acceptable content to be in games.
12:21 <Cepheid> In fact, I'm kind of surprised this one isn't much bigger than it is right now.
12:21 <ConfusionRift> Now that one is kind of a double edged blade.
12:22 <Cepheid> In would have imagined Japan having about as big an issue with violence as Western culture has with adult content.
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12:24 <Cepheid> That said, to say that Japanese culture is accepting of adult content is a half-truth. There are people who rage against it, just as people over here do.
12:24 <Cepheid> But yeah, violence is the bigger issue over there.
12:38 <Cepheid> ...
12:38 <Cepheid> You can still get a boombox/ghetto blaster in this day and age. What.
12:39 * ConfusionRift nods.
12:39 <ConfusionRift> Just not as good, and way more expensive.
12:39 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:39 <ConfusionRift> I miss mine. That thing had a long and awesome life.
12:40 <Cepheid> Using modern tech, I wonder what kind of capacity those small cassettes would have these days. Let's do some math.
12:41 <Cepheid> 129 meters for a C90, and the width was 3.8mm
12:41 <ConfusionRift> Found it! https://classicboombox.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/panasonic-rx-51501.jpg
12:42 <Cepheid> So, 129 meters * 3.8 mm = 490200 square mm.
12:42 <Cepheid> Assume one-sided.
12:43 <Cepheid> So about 760 square inches..
12:43 <Cepheid> In 2015, IBM and Fujifilm achieved a density of 1.23Gbit/square inch
12:44 <Cepheid> 116.85 gigabytes.
12:45 <Cepheid> Those old cassette tapes, using modern-for-2015 tech, could achieve a storage capacity of 116.85 gigabytes.
12:45 <ConfusionRift> Hah! $225! We didn't pay that for it back then, won't do that now!
12:46 <ConfusionRift> That's quite a bit.
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12:47 <Cepheid> And that's 2015.
12:47 <Cepheid> Using LTO-6 stats.
12:47 <ConfusionRift> I mean, there are flash drives that reach over that capacity, but it's more than what you would find on a blu-ray.
12:47 <Cepheid> No, wait, LTO-6 is smaller.
12:47 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
12:47 <Cepheid> Using modern tech as of 2019, it'd probably be 2 to 4 times more.
12:48 <Cepheid> Actually, Kryder's Law states otherwise.
12:49 <Cepheid> Assuming Kryder's Law was accurate, we're looking at...
12:49 <Cepheid> 449 gigabytes.
12:49 <ConfusionRift> Close to half a terabyte.
12:50 <Cepheid> But, tape tech jumps faster than that, though.
12:50 <Cepheid> LTO-6, which was just prior to the 2015 tech above, was 2.5TB in capacity.
12:50 <Cepheid> LTO-8, current tech, is 12TB.
12:51 <Cepheid> So in 4-5 years, the capacity has more than quadrupled.
12:51 <Cepheid> Let's see..
12:51 <Cepheid> LTO-8 is 20,688 bits per square millimeter.
12:51 <Cepheid> ... I think? It doesn't specify it as square mi- Oh.
12:52 <Cepheid> It's not square millimeters. It's literal millimeters.
12:52 <Cepheid> Hm. That can't be right.
12:52 <Cepheid> Oh, that's why. I'm not taking into account certain traits.
12:54 <ConfusionRift> Referring to TS1170?
12:56 <Cepheid> Wikipedia actually. Also my laptop's dead.
12:57 <Cepheid> No. LTO is Linear Tape Open. A specification for tape media.
12:58 <ConfusionRift> Oh, I was checking different magnetic tape formats.
12:58 <Cepheid> They are used for data storage. LTO for example has a storage capacity of 12TB, 30 if compression is used.
12:58 <Cepheid> They are the defacto standard for tape storage more or less.
12:58 <Cepheid> Thats why I was using their info.
13:01 <ConfusionRift> "The IBM 3592 is a series of tape drives and corresponding magnetic tape data storage media formats developed by IBM. The first drive, having the IBM product number 3592, was introduced under the nickname Jaguar. The next drive was the TS1120, also having the nickname Jaguar. As of November 2018, the latest and current drive is the TS1160 Gen 6."
13:01 <Cepheid> Huh.
13:02 <ConfusionRift> Apparently, that one has a raw storage capacity of 20TB.
13:04 <Cepheid> Lets see though... 960 meters by 12.625 millimeters is... 12,120,000 millimeters. Divide the capacity of LTO-8 to by this to get density...
13:04 <Cepheid> 990 kilobytes per square millimeter.
13:05 <Cepheid> 485 gigabytes for an old C90 cassette.
13:07 <ConfusionRift> https://www.ibm.com/us-en/marketplace/ts2280 Hmmmmm.
13:11 <Cepheid> Yeah, there's a lot of brands, but from the sound of things, Ultrium is pretty much the one used mostly everywhere.
13:12 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, tape decks are a tad much even for me.
13:12 <Cepheid> Nah, right now, what I need is something for a raid setup.
13:12 <ConfusionRift> That's what I'm doing.
13:13 <Cepheid> Alas, the type of RAID setup I want to do doesn't work with Windows.
13:13 <ConfusionRift> Which?
13:15 <ConfusionRift> If you don't mind me asking.
13:15 <Cepheid> ZFS RAIDZ. It's a software solution created for UNIX-likes, that offers superior performance and protection against hardware failure compared to hardware RAID solutions.
13:17 <Cepheid> It's a combined filesystem and LVM in one.
13:17 <Cepheid> So the filesystem manager also knows about the layout of the disks.
13:17 <Cepheid> Rather than just seeing a single large disk, which may actually be a bunch of disks together.
13:17 <Cepheid> So it's able to do some unique stuff.
13:19 * DashedRainbows sits by ConfusionRift and wags her tail
13:19 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows.
13:19 <Cepheid> Alas, Windows doesn't support it.
13:19 <Cepheid> Though the OpenZFS people are trying to make a driver.
13:21 * DashedRainbows offers the horsey hay
13:22 * ConfusionRift nomnoms. :P
13:24 * ConfusionRift flops. He should crash to sleep.
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14:30 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/NVdE0SP.png Embrace the rainbow. o3o
15:04 <Cepheid> Hum. Australia is dominated by desert?
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15:32 <RazorSharpFang> Australia's mostly "arid" (basically desert) with "scientific desert" being less common.
15:35 <Cepheid> Ah.
15:36 <Cepheid> Whereabouts would you be roughly, in Australia? I'm only looking for direction, that is: North side, south side, east side or west side.
15:37 <RazorSharpFang> West for me.
15:37 <Cepheid> Ah.
15:38 <Cepheid> I only mentioned all this because as I'm in the linguistics department, some of the things you see around it is lots of culture stuff, and maps of the world to point out regions where different languages are common, etc.
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17:02 <Hyperform> *T H I R S T E̷̢̹̝̪̍̓͊͜ ̸̡̲̣̭̬̬̮͖̗̱͚̪̙̩̥̔͂͒̔͊̒̑̀̂͂̽̀̅̕͘͠M̸̢̧͇̟͚̏̓̐͋͌͛̄̄̈́͘͜͝͝ ̵̨̱̥̫̭͉̤̬͈̽͗͑̅͂͐̋̋͝Ę̵͑͋͛̈́̃́͗̌͆̊͌͋̈́ ̵̡̗̖̣̩̂̂̏̏͘̕͝͝R̷̨̡̨̛̛̹̠͉̻̜̤͇̦̖̍͛̒̾͂̍̇̕ ̷̗̦̬͍̹̂́̈́̾̕̚Ģ̴̼̤̙̮͚̠̤͓̆̀͌͆̑́͒̚ ̵̢̢̠̼̬͈̬͔̗̗̰͓͔̌̅͐͑̊̏̐̕Ė̴͔̥̥̜̇͗͜ ̴̦̬̀͂̋̄̇̋̎͐̈́̐̿́͝
17:02 <LibrarianofHope> bleh, no mod
17:02 <LibrarianofHope> zalgo font is out of fashion boi, git gud
17:04 <SilverLining> Oh my god it's eight years ago again, isn't it
17:04 <SilverLining> Why d these time loops keep happening to me
17:04 <LibrarianofHope> groundhogs tend to have such an effect
17:05 <LibrarianofHope> i was just thinking i missed the mild entertainment of trolls, stupid irony
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17:07 <LibrarianofHope> zalgo never did work out
17:07 <LibrarianofHope> top of the morning silverlining
17:07 <LibrarianofHope> owo
17:08 <SilverLining> Why, top o' the mornin' to ye, bejaysus!
17:08 <LibrarianofHope> yay
17:09 <LibrarianofHope> are there that many pubs in ireland?
17:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction (Scouted): Life is a Lemon [ http://tinyurl.com/y65oceqq ]
17:09 <LibrarianofHope> im curios as to the origin of the irish drink a lot thing
17:09 <SilverLining> Probably not more than anywhere else in particular. But ours are better.
17:10 <LibrarianofHope> why?
17:10 <SilverLining> Probably emigrants. Some social reason in the slums of New York or something. Most of Ireland's reputations come from the emigrants
17:10 <LibrarianofHope> ohh
17:10 <LibrarianofHope> makes sense
17:11 <LibrarianofHope> the troll gave up easy
17:12 <SilverLining> Do you think we actually got through to him? Zalgo is out of fashion and he's rethinking his choices?
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17:13 <SilverLining> Well, I'm just depressing everyone to death today, aren't I
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17:13 <FoxesFurever> hi
17:14 <SilverLining> Hellew sir
17:14 <LibrarianofHope> sup
17:14 <FoxesFurever> i'm sorry, did i miss something?
17:15 <SilverLining> Nah not really. I thought I'd smothered Librarian but he came back to life... this time....
17:15 <FoxesFurever> i saw something about there was something happening with a troll
17:16 <SilverLining> Someone popped in, made me thirsty, and disappeared. Nothing very interesting
17:16 <FoxesFurever> god, i just had a few spicy doritos
17:23 * Cepheid goes to sit outside. Nice day out. 2 degrees.
17:24 <LibrarianofHope> wut
17:24 <LibrarianofHope> i dont die, i take naps
17:25 <Cepheid> Wait what?
17:25 <SilverLining> Sounds like zombie tak to me....
17:26 * SilverLining loads shotgun
17:26 <Cepheid> Where's a Redfield when you need one? Bah.
17:26 * LibrarianofHope uses gravitic shackle
17:26 <Cepheid> Meanwhile I'm the local demon.
17:27 <LibrarianofHope> im alive, also the polite temr is revenant
17:27 <LibrarianofHope> khonre or tzethcch
17:27 <Cepheid> That said I don't see myself as evil. Actually, nowadays, I don't see angels, humans and demons as inherently good or evil.
17:28 <Cepheid> I associate temperament with those labels.
17:29 <LibrarianofHope> been feeling icky all week
17:29 <Cepheid> Angels tend to be peaceful, reasonable. Demons are hot-headed, quick-to-anger. Humans are in between, with each one leaning towards one side.
17:29 <LibrarianofHope> heat makes me feel inflammed
17:29 <LibrarianofHope> and gives me heaches
17:30 <Cepheid> Drink some water. Unlikely heatstroke or heat exhaustion, but better safe than sorry.
17:30 <LibrarianofHope> yeah
17:31 <LibrarianofHope> demons and angels depend on the world
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17:31 <LibrarianofHope> yay
17:31 <Hyperform> *T H I R S T E̷̢̹̝̪̍̓͊͜ ̸̡̲̣̭̬̬̮͖̗̱͚̪̙̩̥̔͂͒̔͊̒̑̀̂͂̽̀̅̕͘͠M̸̢̧͇̟͚̏̓̐͋͌͛̄̄̈́͘͜͝͝ ̵̨̱̥̫̭͉̤̬͈̽͗͑̅͂͐̋̋͝Ę̵͑͋͛̈́̃́͗̌͆̊͌͋̈́ ̵̡̗̖̣̩̂̂̏̏͘̕͝͝R̷̨̡̨̛̛̹̠͉̻̜̤͇̦̖̍͛̒̾͂̍̇̕ ̷̗̦̬͍̹̂́̈́̾̕̚Ģ̴̼̤̙̮͚̠̤͓̆̀͌͆̑́͒̚ ̵̢̢̠̼̬͈̬͔̗̗̰͓͔̌̅͐͑̊̏̐̕Ė̴͔̥̥̜̇͗͜ ̴̦̬̀͂̋̄̇̋̎͐̈́̐̿́͝
17:31 <SilverLining> Hyperform you made me thirsty
17:31 <Hyperform> yesss
17:31 <SilverLining> Great now I'm two thirsties
17:32 <LibrarianofHope> you need a hobby friend
17:32 <Hyperform> i have a hobby
17:32 <FoxesFurever> my hobby is collecting cute plushies
17:32 <LibrarianofHope> trolling is not a hobby
17:33 <SilverLining> What does Thirst Emerge mean?
17:33 <Hyperform> come out
17:33 <Hyperform> look it up on youtube
17:33 <FoxesFurever> i already did come out awhile ago
17:34 <SilverLining> Why do you say it?
17:34 <Hyperform> why not?
17:34 <SilverLining> There was no reason to, of course. Anyway, welcome!
17:34 <Hyperform> yes!
17:35 <SilverLining> Been here before? Sorry, I rarely pay attention, I don't really recognise people
17:35 <FoxesFurever> you can just say "come out" instead, you know
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17:36 <FoxesFurever> oh great, i try to correct someone, and they just plain leave
17:36 <LibrarianofHope> its a troll
17:36 <LibrarianofHope> dont mind it much
17:37 <LibrarianofHope> used to be an occuational hazard here, slowed down a lot since discord chat emerged
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17:38 <SilverLining> Welcome back Hyperform.
17:38 <Hyperform> no i got dissconected
17:38 <Hyperform> it happens (:
17:38 <SilverLining> Ah. I'd just asked if you come here often.
17:38 <FoxesFurever> ugh, i hate when i get disconnected for no reason
17:39 <Hyperform> yes i come ofden
17:39 <Hyperform> not on this channel
17:39 <FoxesFurever> hm, i don't really remember you
17:39 <SilverLining> I'm terrible at recognising people. Been here ages but not very active.
17:39 <Hyperform> but i just got banned from the last one for nothing
17:40 <LibrarianofHope> cant imagine why
17:40 <SilverLining> What channel was that?
17:40 <Hyperform> #kittensgame
17:40 <SilverLining> Oh yeah that place
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17:40 <SilverLining> Never could figure that place out. It appeared one day a couple of years ago
17:41 <Hyperform> really?
17:41 <Hyperform> ok, look up kittens game by bloodrizer
17:41 <SilverLining> It's for some game...
17:41 <SilverLining> Ah right
17:41 <FoxesFurever> i will be very disappointed when mlp ends
17:42 <SilverLining> Seems to be a clicky game. I've never been that keen on those
17:43 <Hyperform> at first. later it gets better
17:43 <Hyperform> is this by nickserv?
17:43 <SilverLining> Is what by nickserv?
17:43 <Hyperform> nevermind. what are you playing?
17:43 <SilverLining> This server has nickserv
17:44 <Hyperform> oh that answers it
17:44 <SilverLining> I don't play anything?
17:45 <Hyperform> so its just like, a chat app or website or something
17:45 <Hyperform> ?
17:45 <Cepheid> It's called IRC. Internef Relay Chat.
17:46 <Cepheid> The precursor to services like AIM, MSN Messenger, Discord and the like.
17:46 <Hyperform> huh.
17:46 <Cepheid> Internet*
17:47 <Cepheid> It uses simple clients to provide group-based conversations. You connect to a server or network, then join one of many channels and talk to the people in them.
17:47 <Hyperform> heyyyy... cepheid! your the one who played borderlands 2 right?
17:47 <Hyperform> or not?
17:48 <Cepheid> It's really simple. Makes it unappealing to a lot of folks. But for people like me, it appeals to me because I grew up using it. Also it doesn't waste megabytes of my phone data plan.
17:48 <Cepheid> Yes.
17:48 <Cepheid> I was the one playing Borderlands 2.
17:48 <SilverLining> Oh, sorry, yeah. It's an app on my laptop. It's not built into anything
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17:50 <LibrarianofHope> got an ice bag
17:50 <Hyperform> wut
17:50 <LibrarianofHope> heat is a pain
17:50 <Hyperform> what
17:50 <Cepheid> Mmm. Some clients are downloaded, yes. HexChat, mIRC to name a couple. Then there is LightIRC and a few others that are usable through websites.
17:51 <Cepheid> Librarian is in Mexico, being baked, presumably.
17:51 <Hyperform> ok i am confuzzld
17:51 <Hyperform> oh
17:51 <Cepheid> Meanwhile I'm up in Canada, sitting in weather that is neither too cold or too warm.
17:51 <ADragonDreaming> the majority of IRC clients are downloaded and installed on the computer.
17:51 <Hyperform> wow
17:51 <LibrarianofHope> im about done yes
17:52 <Hyperform> im in oregon where its fine
17:52 <Hyperform> mostly fine
17:52 <LibrarianofHope> heat is bad and its a high smog day
17:52 <SilverLining> I'm in Ireland. A million miles from any of you
17:52 <Hyperform> wow
17:53 <Hyperform> this is why the internet is the ruler of earth!
17:53 * ADragonDreaming dons pedant hat
17:54 <ADragonDreaming> Dublin Ireland is just under 3.5 k miles from Detroit.
17:54 <LibrarianofHope> im farther
17:54 <Hyperform> ok, ok, no one needs to brag,
17:54 * LibrarianofHope brags
17:55 <SilverLining> Yeah but if you keep going ovr nd back, it's million miles
17:55 <Hyperform> that is...
17:55 <Hyperform> really no one really thinks about how far a million and a billoion are
17:56 <Hyperform> 1,000,000 (one million) 1,000,000,000 (one billion)
17:57 <ADragonDreaming> the equatorial circumference of the earth is 24901 miles.
17:58 <Hyperform> ok thats... very... nice i guess
17:59 <SilverLining> That last mile is a real bitch though. That's where I'd just give up and go home
18:00 <Hyperform> why the last mile?
18:00 <SilverLining> My limit is 24900 miles, 24900 and a half tops
18:00 <Cepheid> They are being silly.
18:01 <SilverLining> That's my default setting, I'm afraid. Fair warning given
18:01 <Cepheid> Meanwhile me and Adra are pedantic.
18:02 <Hyperform> ok i have no idea
18:02 <Cepheid> We are all weird. You get used to it.
18:02 <SilverLining> We're all mad here....
18:02 <Hyperform> so am i.
18:02 <LibrarianofHope> im not mad
18:02 <LibrarianofHope> im a book
18:03 <Hyperform> no mad weird
18:06 <Hyperform> k bye
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18:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Tony Fleecs Heading to BronyCon This Year [ http://tinyurl.com/y475xz69 ]
18:13 <Cepheid> Calling it now. Ford government cuts further funding to mental health, and autism research/assistance.
18:13 <Cepheid> Investing the money in horse racing.
18:20 <Cepheid> Right time to get off Twitter. That topic is flooding in and I'm wanting to rage against politicians who don't give a **** about what I think.
18:25 <LibrarianofHope> my dad is giving his girlfriend a job in the family office
18:26 <LibrarianofHope> this is gong to end sooo bad, i warned him
18:33 <Cepheid> .... Yeah, that is gonna end poorly.
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18:42 <Hyperform> why hello again
18:42 <SilverLining> Well hello there
18:43 <Cepheid> Yo.
18:43 <Hyperform> so aare you and silver lineing here all the time?
18:43 <SilverLining> Not 24 hours
18:43 <Cepheid> I'm technically logged in 24/7, but I am not here all the time, no.
18:44 <Cepheid> I use what's called a bouncer. It's a program that connects to the server, joins a channel, and keeps a log of the last 200 or so lines of text spoken for me, so that when I connect to the bouncer using an IRC client, it'll allow me to continue and follow a conversation.
18:45 <SilverLining> I don't bother.
18:45 <SilverLining> Happy enough to join when I want and quit when I'm sick of ye all!
18:46 <Cepheid> The problem for me is that i move around a lot on campus. Lots of disconnecting, connecting, etc.
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18:48 <LibrarianofHope> seems i recovered from heatstroke headache thing
18:48 <LibrarianofHope> now i need lunch
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19:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: EQD Screencap Event - 68 of Your Favorite Scenes in My Little Pony! [ http://tinyurl.com/y3f5k35u ]
19:17 <Cepheid> ... Huh. Hey Schism, did you know the New-U stations of Borderlands are not "canon" as far as the story is concerned?
19:22 <Schism> Oh?
19:25 <Cepheid> Yeah, apparently one of the higher ups in the production of Borderlands 2 stated that, as far as the storyline and world are concerned, the New-U stations do not actually exist. Even if they are referenced by the Claptraps.
19:26 <Cepheid> But then, the Claptraps have been known to break the fourth wall, so they can get away with referencing them.
19:26 <Schism> Well, Claptraps break the fourth wall--
19:26 <Schism> Yeah. X3
19:27 <Cepheid> Thus, as the New-U stations do not actually exist as far as the game's world is concerned, from the perspective of the characters in the game, we never actually died. It was more like a rewind or something akin to that.
19:33 <LibrarianofHope> ohh
19:33 <LibrarianofHope> makes sense
19:34 <LibrarianofHope> it bothered me a bit the part where they say if they were the same person if they got sort of telerported
19:37 <Finwe> Messrs Cepheid, LibrarianofHope and Schism.
19:37 * Finwe doffs his hat.
19:41 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
19:41 * Schism doffs his hamburger. His very traditional American hamburger.
19:42 <Finwe> But Hamburg is in Germany! o3o!
19:44 <Schism> Finwe: It's a delicious hamburger indeed. https://twitter.com/aceattorneygame/status/1115715124495638529
19:44 <Cepheid> Idea Factory is starting to get savvy about their playerbase. They know the players don't like censorship, so when it happens, they mention it now when they talk about games they are releasing.
19:44 <Cepheid> Super Neptunia RPG has two modified CGs in the PS4 version, and they explicitly mention this.
19:45 <Schism> Interesting. It is good that they're not trying to hide that sort of thing, so consumers know what's in their releases before buying.
19:49 <Cepheid> I plan to get it on the Switch in any case, myself. Lot of games of it's style coming out lately. The battle engine of Valkyrie Profile Lenneth and Valkyrie Profile 2 seem to have caught the attention of some developers.
19:51 <Cepheid> Right, I'ma head home. Done enough toying with discrete mathematics.
19:52 <Cepheid> Far as I'm concerned, the final exam is considerably easier than the assignments and midterms combined.
19:52 * Cepheid has access to the final exams from the previous semester. Prof gives them out.
20:01 <Cepheid> https://borderlands.fandom.com/wiki/Dog Schism, this gun... Heh.
20:08 <Moongoodboy{K}> we should see if we can get {no,any,some,every}creature on Wiktionary >X3
20:09 <Moongoodboy{K}> we already have /anypony/ and /everypony/ :D
20:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #100 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6gu5uvr ]
20:09 <Moongoodboy{K}> though, strangely, not /nopony/ or /somepony/
20:14 <Cepheid> Apparently, unlocking my phone at the same time as a call comes in forces the ca to hang up immediately.
20:16 <Cepheid> Gods, people. It's 4 degrees out. Stop looking as me like I'm some sort of monster. Swear they've never seen a person in a tshirt before.
20:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> Who needs a t-shirt if you can have fur?
20:21 <Moongoodboy{K}> owo
20:23 <LibrarianofHope> my reflux is bad today
20:23 <Starlight_Glimmer> We went to school once in t-shirts, sandles and shorts while it was snowing. Teacher complained about how we didn't wear temperature appreciate clothing the day before. Huh this is over 6 years ago now
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20:24 <Kaworu> hi
20:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm getting old :P
20:24 <Kaworu> finished seeing the premiere of S9
20:24 <Kaworu> (never knew s9 arrived)
20:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> Actually more like 7 or even 8
20:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> Can't remember
20:25 <Kaworu> what do you think of the first 2 episodes?
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20:34 <Moongoodboy{K}> I can't believe Tartarus was so easy to escape :I
20:35 <Cepheid> I just wear tshirts in -10 to 10 degree weathsr because I'm acclimated to it. Now that I think about it, I'm probably acclimated because for one year, I took ice cold showers, in an attempt to improve my handling of cold weather. Guess it workdd.
20:35 <Moongoodboy{K}> The Mane Six should have just /failed/ to escape, IMO
20:35 <Moongoodboy{K}> …wait, no, that's the finale. >.>;
20:35 <LibrarianofHope> you are a reincarnated viking
20:35 <Moongoodboy{K}> The /premiere/ I'm upset with because it just up and killed the Tree of Harmony :(
20:36 <Moongoodboy{K}> that thing better come back in the finale
20:36 <Moongoodboy{K}> it had such good character development in /What Lies Beneath/!
20:37 <Moongoodboy{K}> I'm nervouscited to see how the divide-and-conquer stuff that was hinted is gonna go.
20:37 <Kaworu> I expect another villain episode in between the series
20:38 <Moongoodboy{K}> …oooooh, wouldn't it be cool if Grogar and Co. succeed at turning the Mane Six against each other…but then the Young Six rise up and remind them why they're friends? X3
20:38 <Moongoodboy{K}> Or even become the ones to save the day outright :O
20:38 <Moongoodboy{K}> Kaworu: yeah. X3
20:38 <Kaworu> who will be next?
20:38 <Kaworu> also chryssy, tirek and cozy, seems not so convinced
20:39 <Kaworu> cozy might be next, or Tirek
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20:40 <Moongoodboy{K}> That's the entire group there. :p
20:40 <Moongoodboy{K}> (except for the leader)
20:41 <Cepheid> Ali, is your nickname short for anything? Or is it a reference to the marbles of decades past?
20:41 <Moongoodboy{K}> also, the beginning of the premiere is potentially fine on its own…but combined with the finale, it implies that Tartarus is worryingly insecure?!
20:41 <Ali> This is just my pony name, no relation to my real name
20:42 <LibrarianofHope> are you named amanda?
20:42 <Moongoodboy{K}> …but then again…it seems to be mostly wild animals in there (chimeras, manticores, bugbears…)
20:42 <Cepheid> Fair enough. Was just curious.
20:42 <Moongoodboy{K}> the only major threat being Tirek
20:42 <Moongoodboy{K}> …and now Cozy Glow :p
20:42 <Moongoodboy{K}> speaking of Cozy Glow, /they really just sent her to Tartarus?!/
20:43 <Cepheid> Tartarus. The jail made of teeth.
20:43 <Moongoodboy{K}> Also, what's up with the food situation there? My first thought would be that it has some kind of magical stasis (think: Pandorica) or something such that you don't need food
20:44 <Moongoodboy{K}> …but based on how bad it was, it might just be that they have regular-flank ponies walking in occasionally to deliver food. :•
20:44 <Moongoodboy{K}> :| *
20:44 <Moongoodboy{K}> …but if it's as basic as that, shouldn't they at least have GUARDS posted?!
20:44 <Moongoodboy{K}> aaaaa that was so bad.
20:45 * Moongoodboy{K} coughs…
20:45 <Moongoodboy{K}> Premiere nine. Right.
20:45 <Moongoodboy{K}> I loved Discord's speech :'3
20:45 * LibrarianofHope dances most of the funky
20:45 <Moongoodboy{K}> also, pretending to be hurt just to do that…that is /so/ Discord. X3
20:46 <Cepheid> I assume being in Tartarus frees you from needing sustenance. You still feel hunger, though.
20:48 <Moongoodboy{K}> Ouch.
20:48 <Moongoodboy{K}> Truly a punishment.
20:48 <LibrarianofHope> waste of time
20:48 <Moongoodboy{K}> And, again…//why would they put Cozy Glow there?!//
20:48 <LibrarianofHope> if celestia had just killed them when captured removes future threaths
20:49 <LibrarianofHope> torturing them is pointless
20:49 <Moongoodboy{K}> I mean, she DID try to destroy the world…but she's just a filly
20:49 <LibrarianofHope> threat prevention
20:51 <Moongoodboy{K}> …this is some /way/ varied and inconsistent handling.
20:52 <Moongoodboy{K}> reform Starlight, imprison Tirek and Cozy Glow, destroy Sombra
20:57 <Cepheid> There are some that suggest execution is an easy way out of suffering for people who commit heinous crimes. I'm inclined to agree. Serve your life sentence in boredom and in small confines.
20:58 <Kaworu> hmm
20:58 <LibrarianofHope> and get ffed and treated, also the danger of escape and war
20:58 <Kaworu> here's the official power level according to outskirtsbattledomewiki
20:58 <LibrarianofHope> its a matter of eefirnciy
20:58 <LibrarianofHope> efficiency
20:59 <Kaworu> Twilight sparkle is currently Solar system level, while being Alicorn
20:59 <Kaworu> with Elements of Harmony/Rainbow Power she's small galaxy level
20:59 <Starlight_Glimmer> The pony in charge of education was previously involved in brain washing. Must say I have full confidence in Twili :3
21:01 <Starlight_Glimmer> Cepheid: There's a difference between allowing a criminal to commit suicide and murdering them though.
21:01 <Moongoodboy{K}> Cepheid: whether or not they subscribe to that, the handling is inconsistent
21:01 <Starlight_Glimmer> The death penalty is flawed in more ways than I can write down here.
21:02 <LibrarianofHope> its to much of a bother, i focus on helping the nice people, the criminals can be handled by others
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21:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: PINKIE Music: Chiptune Brony - Date with Pinkie Pie [Soundtrack] [ http://tinyurl.com/y3uypxyl ]
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21:10 <LibrarianofHope> its an impossible debate, no amount of theory holds to the garguantuan variation size of any given case
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21:10 <LibrarianofHope> and now to something complety different
21:11 * LibrarianofHope pokes ali
21:11 * Ali falls over
21:12 <Kaworu> All of sombra's powers so far;
21:12 <LibrarianofHope> sombra is the laziest name ever
21:12 <LibrarianofHope> it just means shadows
21:14 <LibrarianofHope> i miss the gack jokes a bit
21:14 <Kaworu> Strenght, dexterity and increased resilience, Unicorn magic, teleporting, telekinesis, crystal manipulation, shadow manipulation, mind manipulation, expert tactician, can set up deadly traps, can create shadow clones, can turn into shadow, can summon your own worst fear, intangibility
21:18 <Moongoodboy{K}> Sombra was OP in the premiere
21:18 <Moongoodboy{K}> …which I guess means that the Mane Six were too
21:19 <Moongoodboy{K}> I mean, /really/, he took over EVERYONE that easily? The CMC? Starlight?
21:19 <Ali> Takes over the Crystal Empire by just walking in and taking a baby hostage
21:20 <Kaworu> He can trap you endlessly in your fears just by looking at him
21:20 <Kaworu> and apparently the Mane 6 destroyed a kagebunshi clone in episode 1
21:21 <Kaworu> and also he's a good tactician and expert in magical defences
21:21 <Kaworu> in the comic he's an Umbrum Pony
21:21 <Kaworu> (dunno if it's canon)
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21:41 * LibrarianofHope flops on Ali
21:42 * Ali squeaks
21:42 <LibrarianofHope> question
21:42 <LibrarianofHope> even if eqd goes away, we can keep the channel?
21:43 <SilverLining> \Why is it even still called that
21:43 <LibrarianofHope> eqd still exists
21:43 <LibrarianofHope> da canternet big boss should know
21:44 <LibrarianofHope> shadow manipulation should be a wrong term
21:45 <LibrarianofHope> its a form of darkness manipulation, the only legitimate shadow manipulation i know is peter pan
21:45 <Moongoodboy{K}> pff.
21:46 <LibrarianofHope> darkness is a form of concpetual element connected to the idea of shadow and lack of light
21:46 <LibrarianofHope> same way light is nit just using a lightbulb
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21:49 <Cepheid> All I know is that the light burns.
21:49 <Cepheid> Give me darkness.
21:49 <LibrarianofHope> specify
21:50 <LibrarianofHope> there are two anime charcters off the top of my head with that exact name
21:50 <LibrarianofHope> and thats just what i recall
21:50 * Moongoodboy{K} gives Cepheid a couple of Darkness daki?
21:51 <LibrarianofHope> you actually fit quite well with a race i designed Cepheid
21:51 <LibrarianofHope> the infer, knowledge seeker that use masks
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21:53 * LibrarianofHope gives Darkness Aspect gear to Cepheid, robes, mask, taco discounts
21:54 * LibrarianofHope tickles ali as an afterthought
22:04 <Cepheid> I meant literal darkness. Give me a room with no windows, and set up in such a way that the door is sealed so that light cannot enter when it is closed.
22:06 <LibrarianofHope> thats a coffin
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22:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #321 [ http://tinyurl.com/yy2aqxzo ]
22:10 <LibrarianofHope> i havent done any proper writing in 3 days
22:10 <LibrarianofHope> heck me
22:15 * Moongoodboy{K} puts a ball python on LibrarianofHope. c:
22:15 <LibrarianofHope> wut is that?
22:15 <LibrarianofHope> a snek?
22:16 <Moongoodboy{K}> yuh. :3
22:17 * LibrarianofHope plays poker with da snek
22:33 <LibrarianofHope> a scootalo fanclub, thats adorable
22:33 <Moongoodboy{K}> :D
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22:34 <LibrarianofHope> im almost caught up
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22:35 <ADragonDreaming> mnow.
22:35 <LibrarianofHope> meow
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22:37 * Princess-Luna jumps in through the window
22:38 * LibrarianofHope digs a hole next to the window
22:38 * Princess-Luna Alicorn-magics to safety. xD
22:39 * LibrarianofHope throws lemon pie at luna
22:39 <LibrarianofHope> might as well be direct
22:43 <LibrarianofHope> we had a trolly guy in the mormningish luna
22:43 <LibrarianofHope> not that disruptive
22:44 <LibrarianofHope> dont make trolls like they used too
22:44 * Cepheid subscribes to Princess-Luna.
22:44 * LibrarianofHope demonitzes luna
22:46 <LibrarianofHope> i just noticed. rockhoff is a pony shovel knight owo
22:46 <LibrarianofHope> neat
22:47 <Princess-Luna> Sounds like a pretty meh troll, lol
22:47 <Princess-Luna> I'm sure glad things aren't like they used to be around here there, thats for sure
22:47 <LibrarianofHope> yeah
22:47 <LibrarianofHope> they all went to discord
22:48 <Princess-Luna> I use discord, but not the EG discord - screw dat xD
22:48 <LibrarianofHope> i dont bother at all, here is fine
22:51 <Princess-Luna> x3
22:53 <Princess-Luna> Well, I have a bunch of locations I occupy - here, skype, discord, Twitter. xD
22:53 <LibrarianofHope> i dont have time as it is owo
22:53 <LibrarianofHope> my worldbuilding world is annoyingly slow
22:53 * Princess-Luna patpats
22:54 <LibrarianofHope> i need more time
22:54 <Cepheid> I use discord too. The server I am on just uses it as a glorified IRC-like service with lots of innuendo and NSFW stuff.
22:54 <LibrarianofHope> hence the pain
22:54 <LibrarianofHope> its peacefull here, the other areas are a mess
22:56 <Cepheid> Actually I joined that server just for that reason, soo...
22:57 <LibrarianofHope> meh, i respect the idea of liking the mess, but i like my peace
22:57 <Princess-Luna> x3
22:58 <LibrarianofHope> no need for anxiety. dont worry be happy
22:58 <Cepheid> No. I meant I joined it for the NSFW stuff.
22:58 * LibrarianofHope goes jamiacan mon
22:58 <Cepheid> Otherwise it is relatively organized.
22:58 <LibrarianofHope> ohh
22:58 <LibrarianofHope> fair enough
22:59 * LibrarianofHope juggles a mango
23:01 <LibrarianofHope> i was about to worry i got cut out from a book source, but i have the trove, so meh
23:03 * Schism goes to visit the scenic town of Sloth's Pit, runs into the Momo.
23:06 <LibrarianofHope> the bird thing?
23:07 <Cepheid> I have no idea what that is.
23:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Open Art Event - SPACE MARES Submissions [ http://tinyurl.com/y6dowbrw ]
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23:10 <LibrarianofHope> there is a creepypasta beast called that
23:11 <LibrarianofHope> probably something else in thsi case
23:11 <Schism> Yeah, it's a weird sort of thing. Just a creepy statue, really.
23:11 <LibrarianofHope> it became a monster to many, therefore prey to me
23:11 <Cepheid> Hate hate hate HATE stalkers.
23:12 <LibrarianofHope> if you liked them it would be weird
23:12 <Cepheid> Worse than Rakks.
23:12 <Schism> Heh, Rakks are fun if you get a good shotgun.
23:13 <LibrarianofHope> ahh, those
23:13 <LibrarianofHope> went on a wrong tangent
23:13 <LibrarianofHope> just apply ammunition until target stops moving
23:14 <LibrarianofHope> then some more to be safe
23:15 <Cepheid> "First law disabled"
23:16 * LibrarianofHope applies the dakka
23:16 <LibrarianofHope> im reading the war of the beast series owo
23:17 <LibrarianofHope> so far im impressed a stupidly baroque and inmense system as the imperium survived so long, its a mess everywhere
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23:24 <LibrarianofHope> sounds pirate queen like
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