Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Wednesday, 2019-04-24

00:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Top 10 Pony Songs of March 2019  [ http://tinyurl.com/y4s9w3lg ]

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00:11 <Cepheid> So, who wants a free piece of my scalp?  I scalped myself shaving

00:16 <Schism> Yeeech.

00:41 <Cepheid> Eh.

00:41 <Cepheid> It just stings a bit.

00:53 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Happy Dash  [ http://tinyurl.com/y59nazqm ]

01:06 *** Ali|BGN is now known as Ali

01:07 * Ali flops over Cepheid and yawns

01:11 <Cepheid> Hello Ali.

01:12 <Ali> Evening

01:12 <Cepheid> Ye know, I'm not a big fan of guns, being Canadian and all, but there's actually one particular gun I'm willing to give a pass.  Mostly because I want to try firing one at a dummy target, myself.  Any type of sniper rifle.

01:39 * DashedRainbows licks the Ali

01:40 * Ali squeaks!

01:41 * DashedRainbows offers her more hay

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02:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1779 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3nfkku2 ]

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03:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pinkie Music: Silva Hound & loophoof - Pink Out [Electro House/Bounce] [ http://tinyurl.com/y44qx8y6 ]

03:54 * DashedRainbows runs around barking at the ponies

03:56 * Ali boops DashedRainbows

03:58 * DashedRainbows sniffs back

04:03 <DashedRainbows> Hmm the power went out

04:04 * DashedRainbows hides behind Ali

04:05 * Ali sits on DashedRainbows

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04:06 * DashedRainbows whimpers

04:07 * Ali brushies DashedRainbows

04:08 * DashedRainbows plays with her squeaky toy

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04:19 <Cepheid> Huh.

04:20 <Cepheid> While the GTX 760 refuses to play nice with PCIPT, I did get my RTX 2060 working just fine with it.  Pin some memory, some CPUs to the VM, and I got a working Windows 10 installation that's pretty much running flawlessly.

04:23 * DashedRainbows licks Ali and pants

04:23 * Ali gives DashedRainbows water

04:27 <DashedRainbows> Yay

04:28 * DashedRainbows returns to sniffing small horses

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04:36 * DashedRainbows applies air spray

04:37 * PinkieShy licks DashedRainbows

04:40 * DashedRainbows sniffs PinkieShy. Hmm, horsey. Have a hay burger

04:42 * PinkieShy nomfs the hay burger down in one bite

04:42 * PinkieShy looks at DashedRainbows with derpy eyes.

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04:44 * DashedRainbows boops PinkieShy

05:05 * DashedRainbows offers PinkieShy a random potion

05:07 * PinkieShy takes the potion

05:07 * PinkieShy drinks the potion

05:07 * PinkieShy gets transformed from pony to dutch angel dragon.

05:09 * DashedRainbows drinks one herself. From pony to... Pony

05:10 <JonTheVGNerd> !flip

05:10 * DerpyBot flips a muffin

05:10 * DerpyBot catches the muffin with her mouth and eats it before anyone can see which side is up

05:13 * Cepheid celebrates his victory with some cheese, some pickled eggs, and a tall glass o' orange juice.

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05:23 * Ali noms on Cepheid ankles

05:23 <Cepheid> Ow.

05:23 <Cepheid> How are you Ali?

05:23 * DashedRainbows pokes Ali with his new horn

05:24 <Ali> Ok, just relaxing and thinking too much about Factorio stuff.  Tried a Lazy *yay* try but I just feel boxed in by my own stupidity

05:24 <Cepheid> Lazy....  .... Lazy Pony mode is tricky, yeah.

05:24 <Cepheid> You have to automate everything as much as possible.

05:25 <Cepheid> It's time-consuming.

05:25 <Ali> Well I'm up to working on getting rails

05:25 <Ali> Everything is automated at this point but

05:25 <Ali> The ores are a bit far away and surrounded by bug bases

05:25 <Cepheid> You know the drill.

05:26 <Cepheid> Grab a gun and go killing.

05:26 <Cepheid> Actually, ye know, that reminds me.

05:26 <Cepheid> With all the changes to bugs, I'm surprised they aren't fleshing out military more.

05:26 <Ali> Well I just fear red ammo isn't gonna be enough.  I don't know, I just feel super weak when I'm playing alone.

05:29 <Cepheid> Given I've done it alone with red ammo, it's possible.  Some basic suggestions for combat:  1)  Don't run in.  Approach slowly until the bugs notice you, then back away while firing at the swarm.  This gets rid of the initial swarm, and all you have to deal with after that are the worms and occasional spawns.

05:29 <Cepheid> 2)  Target worms first, but do so by skirting the edges of the base until you get close enough to target the furthest worm out.

05:30 <Cepheid> 3)  If the base is large, and there are more worms inside, prioritize buildings at the edge and move in slowly.

05:30 <Cepheid> 4)  It's okay to run.

05:30 <Cepheid> Even if you only get one or two worms on the first pass, or a couple of buildings, that's still progress.  Run away, heal up, repeat.

05:31 <Cepheid> Buildings and worms don't regenerate, after all.  Only the biters and spitters.

05:33 <Cepheid> You can also make things a bit easier by turret hopping.

05:34 <Cepheid> Basically, build a turret, fill it with ammo.  Then build another turret closer to the enemy, fill it with ammo.  Repeat, repeat, repeat.

05:34 <Cepheid> Works with laser turrets too.

05:34 <Ali> I have no close oil to making laser turrets

05:35 <Cepheid> Then regular turrets should suffice.

05:38 * Ali shrugs, unicorn is always scared

05:47 * JonTheVGNerd presents a mirror to Ali to show a reflection of herself

05:47 * Ali blinks at the mirron

05:48 * JonTheVGNerd holds it upright

05:52 * Ali stares at herself in the mirror

05:54 <DashedRainbows> So cute

05:56 * Ali ish not cute

05:57 * JonTheVGNerd brings the mirror close to Ali. Expects her to talk to her own reflection

05:57 * Ali might be lonely, but she doesn't talk to herself

05:58 <DashedRainbows> Ponies are cute and Ali is a pony, therefore Ali is cute

05:58 * Ali ish not

05:59 <DashedRainbows> So not a pony?

06:21 <PinkieShy> ..

06:21 <PinkieShy> I saw the dutch angel deergon i use usually on vrchat in taskbar preview and for a second thought it was starlight glimmer from mlp

06:22 <DashedRainbows> Hmm

06:23 <PinkieShy> https://i.imgur.com/BczRjIK.jpg That's the avatar dashedRainbows

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06:26 <DashedRainbows> Huh

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06:46 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

06:48 <Cepheid> Hey Rifty.

06:48 * ConfusionRift wavies.

06:48 <Cepheid> How goes it?

06:49 <ConfusionRift> Not much, was hanging with my cousin for a while, getting that work stress out of the way.

06:49 <ConfusionRift> Good thing I'm off.

06:50 * Ali hopes after Cepheid's test to get back to work on Factorio

06:50 <ConfusionRift> Oh, I was actually thinking the same. :P

06:50 <Cepheid> Yeah, after exam I'll be back to work on FActorio.

06:50 <ConfusionRift> I gots ze times.

06:51 <Cepheid> Also, when I get my actual proper medication back in my system.

06:51 <Cepheid> Hey, Rifty.  Guess what I learned tonight.

06:51 <ConfusionRift> Hmm?

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06:51 <Cepheid> So, apparently, I've been taking the wrong medication for the last week or so.

06:51 <Ali> Whoops

06:52 <ConfusionRift> ...really? Like, by accident or it was the wrong type of prescription?

06:52 <Cepheid> It turns out that I have two bottles of pills that look almost identical, down to the pills themselves.

06:52 <Cepheid> And somehow, my vyvanse, the medication helping control my ADHD and making me less spaz-tastic, got moved to the back of the bin.

06:52 <Cepheid> The other pill bottle?  Antibiotics.

06:52 <ConfusionRift> Oh no.

06:53 <Ali> Well now

06:53 <Cepheid> Old antibiotics.

06:53 <ConfusionRift> Worse.

06:54 <Cepheid> Yes, I'm supposed to finish antibiotics, but that was a special case.

06:54 <Ali> So you've been taking a pill that is just an antibiotic instead of a med to help your other issue

06:54 <Cepheid> I was given extra in the event that the condition did not go away sooner.

06:54 <Cepheid> Yes.

06:54 <Ali> That explains a few things, glad you figured that out though.

06:58 <Cepheid> In any case, I need to eat, now.  And then I'm gonna get to work on studying for exam.

06:58 <Cepheid> Got two more chapters to practice through.

06:58 <ConfusionRift> Alrighty.

07:00 <ConfusionRift> I'm probably gonna mess around some more with the maker. Trying to figure out this thing.

07:00 <ConfusionRift> Trying to do some layering on the map, but can't quite figure it out, in a way that looks nice and not... blargtastic.

07:01 <Cepheid> Heh.

07:01 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I just finished up my own screwing around.

07:01 <Cepheid> I finally got a PCI-passthrough setup that works.  So I'm able to use pure Linux on my PC, now.

07:03 <ConfusionRift> Nice.

07:04 <Cepheid> Basically I have Windows running in a VM.  Performance is sufficient.

07:05 <ConfusionRift> So basically you got Linux as the main, and just Windows as a side VM, by letting Linux use the PCI components for Windows.

07:07 <Cepheid> Yes.

07:07 <ConfusionRift> Sounds... kinda redundant, but I get it. :P

07:07 * Cepheid shrugs.

07:08 <ConfusionRift> Hey, if the setup works for ya, why not? (shrugs)

07:13 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.  Until I get more SSDs anyways.

07:13 <Cepheid> Hum, I haven't seen Tizzy lately.  Must be sleeping with my mother.

07:13 <Cepheid> Or buzzed out somewhere, still.  Went to the vets.

07:13 <Cepheid> Which means druuuugs!

07:15 <ConfusionRift> So she's just... out, or seeing sound somewhere.

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07:18 <Cepheid> PRetty much.

07:18 <Cepheid> I'm kinda worried about her 'cause the vet visit wasn't entirely good news.

07:18 <ConfusionRift> Oooh.

07:18 <Cepheid> Vet thinks she may have a thyroid issue, which is causing weight and muscle loss.

07:18 <Cepheid> It's treatable, but yeah.

07:18 <Cepheid> Which would explain why she can't jump up onto counters very well, or tables.

07:20 <Cepheid> https://mods.factorio.com/mod/DiscoScience

07:20 <ConfusionRift> Niiiice.

07:21 <ConfusionRift> I know it's aesthetics, but I like that. :P

07:21 <Cepheid> Also, I've been thinking more and more.  It may actually be possible to implement train tunnels after all.

07:21 <Cepheid> It'd require some work though.

07:21 <ConfusionRift> Ala Tycoon style?

07:21 <ConfusionRift> *A la

07:22 <ConfusionRift> Or like being able to tunnel on a cliff?

07:23 <ConfusionRift> Actually, why not a similar code to how the underground conveyers and piping work?

07:24 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait, those can't handles anything passed a straight through. For a train, you might want to work with angles.

07:24 <Cepheid> That was the intent, yes.  The issue is tricky, though, since all the pathfinding is done in the C code, among other things.

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07:24 <Cepheid> And a lot of stuff is hard-coded.

07:24 <Cepheid> But yes, I wanted something ala TTD or OpenTTD-style.

07:24 <ConfusionRift> Aaah.

07:25 <ConfusionRift> It would be nice if you could do some actual terraforming. Then again, might be cheating.

07:25 <Cepheid> I would basically have to override the pathfinder by implementing my own, since the game doesn't actually provide access to the pathfinder, among other things.

07:25 <Cepheid> Yeah, that might be a bit trickier to do.

07:27 <Cepheid> Hum, it looks like it might not be possible to do it.  There's an issue.

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07:28 <ConfusionRift> I'm guessing it would mess around with the foundation code.

07:28 <Cepheid> Hard to say, exactly.

07:29 <Cepheid> I mean, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to ask the pathfinder to find a train path from an arbitrary position to an arbitrary position.

07:29 <Cepheid> As is, you can already pathfind for units.

07:30 <Cepheid> As for the above issue, I see no way to issue how or when the train is supposed to merge onto a different rail.

07:30 <Cepheid> There's a riding_state variable, but it looks like it's specific to the car and/or player.

07:31 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmm.

07:31 <Cepheid> By the way, yes, I am studying.

07:31 <Cepheid> Going back and forth between this and Japanese.

07:31 <Cepheid> Also waiting for some tylenol to kick in.

07:31 <ConfusionRift> "This is part of the exam!" :P

07:32 <ConfusionRift> Coding in Japanese... urgh, reminded me there was a plugin that allowed me to add a foreground on a map (like moving cloud shadows on older RPGs), and the example game they left for studying was completely in Japanese.

07:32 <ConfusionRift> Same as the code.

07:33 <ConfusionRift> So... yeah. "What does what?!"

07:33 <Cepheid> Heh.

07:36 <Cepheid> Why is riding state read-only on trains, but writable on cars and player?

07:36 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmm.

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07:37 <ConfusionRift> It's like the really don't want you to affect the state of the train. Then again, you would want to use the car one for other vehicles and such.

07:38 <Cepheid> Assignment to the property is read-only.

07:38 <Cepheid> But it's child attributes can be written.

07:38 <Cepheid> To what effect, I don't know.

07:38 <Cepheid> Writing to them doesn't incur a warning, but I see no changes.  So it's possible the changes are either ignored, or they have to be set per frame.

07:39 <Cepheid> One way to check, really.

07:40 <Cepheid> Make it accelerate by setting speed to 1, then take a look at the riding state to see what it shows.

07:44 <Cepheid> Appears to be completely read-only.  Has no effect on behaviour.

07:44 <ConfusionRift> Huh.

07:44 <Cepheid> I can think of one other way to possibly get it to work.

07:45 <Cepheid> Put a non-functional player character into the train, then manipulate the player.

07:47 <Cepheid> Anyhow, back to studying.

07:53 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh! Oh. Uuurgh. It's a simple solution, but not as simple as expected.

07:53 <ConfusionRift> Basically have to manually mess with a variable, and changing the position of an event.

07:54 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Mr Cepheid.

07:54 <Finwe> o7

07:54 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

08:00 <Cepheid> Why can't there be a language in which the rules are strictly enforced?

08:00 <Cepheid> Rather than making exceptions for certain words just 'cause?

08:02 * ConfusionRift shrugs.

08:03 <Cepheid> Rifty, if it's not too invasive of a question, how did you go about learning English?  Self-taught, or through formal education?

08:05 <ConfusionRift> Formal education. Since P.R. was (and still is) a U.S. territory, we were required to learn the English language. Despite that, I actually wanted to learn it. Always thought that eventually I would move out and had to know use the language. So it was kinda forced, but I didn't mind.

08:06 <Cepheid> Mmm.

08:06 <Cepheid> I will admit that the prevalence of the language kind of does encourage and force the issue a tad.

08:06 <ConfusionRift> What I hated was that I was the go to for those fools who refused to even bother learning it.

08:07 <Cepheid> Oh gods.

08:07 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's me with programming languages.

08:07 <Finwe> Modern English is a general mish-mash of English, Scandinavian, French, Latin and partially Gaelic, making the rules obscure at best.

08:07 <Cepheid> Heh.

08:08 <Cepheid> In this case, the language I was referencing when it came to rules was Japanese.

08:08 <Cepheid> There's two classes of verbs, called ru verbs and u verbs.  For the most part, they're pretty distinct and easy to separate, but there are rare cases of verbs ending in ru that are u verbs.

08:09 <Finwe> Obviously when r is part of the stem and not the suffix.

08:09 <Cepheid> Except it's not that easy.

08:12 <Cepheid> Overall, the textbook is pretty clear about it, as are many other sources.  "You just know which type of verb a verb is."

08:12 <Cepheid> That is, when you learn the word, you need to memorize what kind of verb it is.

08:14 <Cepheid> It's interesting though, some structures seem to exist across boundaries.

08:14 <Cepheid> For example, using a negative in a sentence to extend invitation.  "Why don't you come watch the game with me?"

08:15 <Cepheid> You can do similar in Japanese.

08:17 * Finwe uppdates to Ubuntu 19.04.

08:17 <Finwe> Erm, "updates".

08:17 <Finwe> 6.9

08:18 <Finwe> Did they have kernel version 5 in this one already?

08:18 <Cepheid> No idea.

08:19 <AppleDash> I recall that happening.

08:19 * Finwe hugs an AppleDash.

08:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by TheSlorg: The Easter Pinkie [ http://tinyurl.com/yy55v4cn ]

08:25 <Finwe> Cepheid: If you want a regular natural language, learn Finnish. It's very complicated, but there are almost no irregularities.

08:25 <Cepheid> Yes, because your suggestion is not biased in any way

08:30 <Finwe> There's one verb with two stems and the conjugation of geographic locations is somewhat arbitrary, but otherwise it all goes by the book.

08:31 <Finwe> A book with several thousands of pages, but by the book nonetheless.

08:32 <Finwe> I think that they never even try and explain the underlying grammatics to people who are learning Finnish as a foreign language.

08:34 <Cepheid> Heh.

08:34 <Finwe> A friend of mine once asked me about category 6 verbs, but I had never even heard of division of verbs into categories.

08:34 <Cepheid> Yeah, the same issue happens with Japanese, I think.

08:35 <Cepheid> Officially, ru- and u- verbs are called ichidan and godan verbs.

08:35 <Cepheid> But some of the folks I talked to have no idea what I'm talking about.

08:35 <Cepheid> Including the professor.

08:36 <Finwe> :3

08:45 <Cepheid> The biggest issue with being a night owl is having no one to talk to in person.  My parents are asleep, so they're out of the question to talk to.

08:45 <Cepheid> That just leaves the cats.

08:45 <Cepheid> And, well..

08:45 <Cepheid> All they do is meow at me when I talk to them.

08:56 <Cepheid> Mmm.  Raining hard out there tonight.

08:56 <Cepheid> ... Or this morning, given it is 5 AM.

08:56 * ConfusionRift shrugs.

08:56 <Finwe> We've had a rather long period of sunny weather.

08:57 <ConfusionRift> Everyone here at home tends to either stay quiet, or just yell at each other, so I'm kinda used to the silence.

09:00 <Cepheid> I don't mind the quiet, but after a few days of it, it starts to get to me.

09:09 <Cepheid> Also, Rifty, yer right.  There's no point in the VM stuff.

09:10 <ConfusionRift> I was? I mean, yeah! Told ya! ...I really don't know. I didn't know what the passthrough was all about, but it makes sense if one is natively using Linux with another OS as a side system, like a VM.

09:11 <Cepheid> The problem is, in order to use it properly, it also has to take control of the keyboard and mouse.

09:11 <Cepheid> At which point, why bother?  Might as well just switch by rebooting into a given OS.

09:14 <ConfusionRift> Oh, yeah. Didn't know that part.

09:14 <ConfusionRift> This Linux/Windows synergy is kind of a pain.

09:16 <Finwe> Yes, indeed.

09:16 * Finwe now has linux-image-generic-5.0.0-13 installed.

09:16 <Finwe> Not running yet, though.

09:17 <Cepheid> Heh.

09:17 <Finwe> Have to wait for the rest of upgrades ere reboot.

09:23 <Cepheid> Fortunately for me, the whole process of installing Windows and Linux is straightforward.  I'll have it all done in like, 40 minutes.

09:37 <Finwe> In that order, yes.

09:38 <Finwe> Installing Linux first might prove somewhat problematic.

09:39 <Finwe> At least with computers without UEFI or any other way of booting an OS without bootloader.

09:39 <ConfusionRift> It's good to check how one's game runs every once in a while, that way you can find errors... like grammatical ones. -_-

09:39 <Cepheid> Heh.

09:40 <Cepheid> But yeah, unfortunately Microsoft just likes to destroy any UEFI boot settings.

09:41 <Finwe> Or boot settings in general.

09:41 <AppleDash> I already have 5.0.9

09:41 <Finwe> Everything overwritten by Windows Loader that is only willing to boot Windows.

09:42 <Finwe> :0

09:42 * Finwe noms on AppleDash's kernel.

09:42 <AppleDash> Eeee

09:42 <Finwe> Hmm, Arch might have something newer, but I haven't used the computer with Arch for ages.

09:42 <Finwe> Let us see..

09:43 <AppleDash> Arch is what I use

09:44 <Cepheid> 5.0.9

09:49 <Finwe> Ubuntu's distribution philosophy slows things down somewhat.

09:50 <Finwe> Whoa, 1.6 gigabytes of upgrades for my Arch system. o3o

09:50 <Cepheid> Aaaand Arch installed.

09:51 <Finwe> Cepheid: The base system?

09:51 <Cepheid> Yep.

09:51 <Finwe> It's rather quick and straightforward if you know what to do.

09:51 <Finwe> And even if you don't it's all in the Arch wiki.

09:53 <Cepheid> Okay, so this is how sure I am of timing, my typing, and all that.

09:53 <Cepheid> Right now, the nouveau driver took over the display.  Alas, the RTX 2060 doesn't work with it very well, if at all.

09:54 <Cepheid> So the display is garbage and unreadable.

09:54 <Cepheid> I managed to, in this state:  Log in to the root account, enable dhcpcd, install openssh, and start sshd.

09:54 <Cepheid> And also create a new user account, and assign it a password.

09:54 <Cepheid> All of which worked.

09:54 <Finwe> Yup, now the software upgrader tells me that it's advisable to move over to linux 5.0 series.

09:55 <Cepheid> People seem to have a thing for hating Arch, I'm not entirely sure why.

09:55 <AppleDash> Try performing an OpenBSD install on a machine with no display.

09:56 <Cepheid> AppleDash:  Ahahaha no.

09:56 <Finwe> I like Arch. It's not as strenuous to build as Gentoo, and it comes with less obligatory rubbish than Ubuntu.

09:56 <Finwe> s/build/install/

09:58 <Cepheid> Time to get this system working right now.

09:59 <Finwe> Proprietary driver is the way to go.

09:59 <Finwe> "Warning: the driver taints your kernel."

10:02 <Cepheid> Yeah, I kinda don't care.

10:12 <Finwe> Well, I'd say that it's better to have graphics than to remain pure in the eyes of RMS.

10:14 <Cepheid> Especially if I can't work with the broken graphics to begin with.

10:15 * Cepheid puts Factorio on a tmpfs ramdrive.

10:16 <Finwe> Probably wisest to update Windows as well, now that I've gotten to it.

10:16 <Cepheid> Heh.

10:17 <Finwe> It's been a while. My old blood glucose meter only had Windows drivers, but the one I have now works with both MacOS and Linux.

10:27 <Cepheid> Oh, wow.

10:27 <Cepheid> I got a train to accelerate.

10:30 <ConfusionRift> o_0

10:30 <Cepheid> I put a player entity in it, then set the riding state of the player to accelerating.

10:32 <Cepheid> So apparently, I need a virtual "driver" to be in the train.

10:34 <Cepheid> Now the important question.

10:34 <Cepheid> Can I get it to turn?

10:34 <Cepheid> ...

10:34 <Cepheid> And I can!

10:39 <Cepheid> The remaining issue is basically implementing the pathfinder and getting the train to follow the path.

10:43 <Cepheid> There's an issue.

10:44 <Cepheid> Can't destroy trains with a driver.

10:45 <Finwe> Then destroy them with something else.

10:46 <Cepheid> It'd be nice if I could just poke the pathfinder to find a path, then tell a train to go there, but nah.  Too much trouble.

10:47 <Schism> Hm.  Regarding the CoH server code: "The code for this game was written at a time when the solution for needing more power was to 'go wide' rather than 'tall'. Add more servers, not more powerful servers."

10:49 <Cepheid> I mean, I think I can't generate a path.  LuaSurface has a request_path function, but even if that worked, I can't set the path variable of a LuaTrain object.

10:50 <Finwe> You probably need more training. o3o

10:50 <Cepheid> And locomotives aren't "units" so I can't use set_command() either.

11:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1552 [ http://tinyurl.com/yxn4vt9h ]

11:10 * Cepheid sets the surface to have a day-night schedule of 3 seconds.

11:10 <ConfusionRift> Seizure!!!

11:10 <Cepheid> Not really.

11:10 <Cepheid> It fades in, waits 1 second, fades out, waits 1 second, etc.

11:12 <Cepheid> It's entirely possible to implement a day-night system such that it mimics the real-world position of where the server is hosted.

11:12 <ConfusionRift> That would be interesting.

11:13 <Schism> Need a huge battery array if you want to use solar panels like that, though.

11:13 <Cepheid> Yep.

11:23 <Cepheid> Man, this game just keeps making things difficult by not explaining what is and isn't something.

11:31 <Cepheid> I wonder if I can shove an entity of type character-corpse into a train to drive it.

11:32 <Cepheid> "Cepheid, why are you shoving a cloned corpse of yourself into that train?"

11:35 <ConfusionRift> "Science!"

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11:50 <Cepheid> There is a way for me to make a truly peaceful server.

11:51 <Cepheid> I start a server, then use Lua script commands to merge the enemy and player forces into one.

11:51 <Cepheid> The result is that the bugs will not attack the player.

11:51 <ConfusionRift> I'm guessing players also can't attack the bugs?

11:52 <Cepheid> More or less.

11:53 <Cepheid> https://gfycat.com/zigzaggiftedconure-cat

12:02 <ConfusionRift> Kitteh!

12:09 * Cepheid implements rampant mod on server. Jacks up biter spawns. Nerfs all weapons.

12:10 <ConfusionRift> ...

12:10 <ConfusionRift> I changed my min- (is now bug bait)

12:12 <Cepheid> I won't do that of course.  Nah, I'll set up a rampant game as a second server probably, an extremely hostile world.

12:13 <Cepheid> May actually create a special mod for it.  One that tracks and shows number of bases and biters killed.

12:19 <ConfusionRift> Player: 6 | Bugs: 349 / Factor: 78%

12:20 <ConfusionRift> Aaaagh!!!

12:29 <ConfusionRift> Man, I do not wanna see the Rampant mod at higher evolution factor.

12:32 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.  There would have to be a weapons mod implemented.  Upgraded variants, better damage, speed, etc.

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12:56 <RazorSharpFang> Good evening.

12:56 <RazorSharpFang> I am yet again home and tired from work. :3

12:56 <Schism> Good evening.  o3o

12:56 * Schism offers the RSF a big cup of strong coffee.

12:58 <RazorSharpFang> A hot chocolate would be best, given it's already 9 PM. :3

12:59 <RazorSharpFang> My general rule is "No caffinated foodstuffs after 6:30 PM"

13:11 <Schism> Mars is currently undergoing a series of, ah... Marsquakes.  THE PLANET AWAKENS!

13:11 * Schism watches Mars crack open like an egg.

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13:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Interesting Article About the Rise of DHX and Animation in General in Vancouver Thanks to MLP  [ http://tinyurl.com/y6llnfut ]

13:32 <ConfusionRift> Sleeeeep.

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13:32 <RazorSharpFang> Gnite

13:57 <RazorSharpFang> Man, it's already 10 PM... the time went away so fast.

14:21 <RazorSharpFang> 2220, lamb forequarter chops still haven't finished roasting... lamb seems to take a while to roast.

14:23 <Finwe> o3o

14:23 * Finwe noms on RazorSharpFang's lamb.

14:23 <RazorSharpFang> Nuu it's not ready yet!

14:23 <Finwe> Not as long as mutton.

14:24 <Finwe> Unless it is mutton dressed as lamb. o3o

14:26 <Schism> This security checkpoint is very no-nonsense.  https://imgur.com/fh5AaGU

14:29 <Finwe> Going away before getting killed is often very no-nonsensical.

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15:06 <Vulpor> So, who here knows about Ducktales the reboot?

15:11 <Moongoodboy{K}> root@ducktales ~# telinit 6

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15:15 <LibrarianofHope> it has david tennat a uncle scrooge

15:34 <Finwe> o3o

15:34 <Finwe> Messrs LibrarianofHope, Moongoodboy{K} and Vulpor.

15:34 * Finwe doffs his hat.

15:35 * Moongoodboy{K} climbs onto Finwe

15:35 * Finwe is climbed upon.

15:38 * LibrarianofHope puts a flag on finwe, claims it for the library

15:41 <Finwe> o3o

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15:51 * DashedRainbows licks Finwe

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16:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Dark Winter Wrap Up Music: Evgeniy Doctor - Lethal Wrap Up [Trance] [ http://tinyurl.com/yywh86ls ]

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16:27 <LibrarianofHope> this has been a fairly lazy week, not much acticity

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16:54 * Schism returns from the store. "Guh. It was 2 degrees when I went out. Now? 10."

16:55 <LibrarianofHope> celsius or the weird one?

16:57 * DashedRainbows ponies around

16:59 <Schism> Celsius, of course.

16:59 * DashedRainbows sniffs Schism

17:00 <LibrarianofHope> its about 30 c here

17:00 <LibrarianofHope> im melting

17:00 <DashedRainbows> 30 is cool

17:00 <LibrarianofHope> celsius?

17:00 <LibrarianofHope> is hot

17:00 <DashedRainbows> yeah

17:00 <Schism> Hum.  SCoRE's City of Heroes servers seem to be back up.

17:00 <DashedRainbows> I live in Texas, that's nothing

17:01 <LibrarianofHope> im impressed and terrified at the same time

17:03 <DashedRainbows> it gets stupid hot

17:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction (Scouted): The Sphinx's Riddle [ http://tinyurl.com/y4powapp ]

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17:23 * DashedRainbows chews on PinkieShy's hooves

17:40 <Schism> I should reproduce one of my favourite characters, a lightning/fire scrapper of some merit.  A noted reporter before some undisclosed incident involving a hot-headed mage who got upset with him stealing her hot scoop resulted in him gaining lightning and flame powers, he took the name 'Current A'fires'.

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18:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2958 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6gf2j8f ]

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18:47 <PinkieShy> nooo :(

18:48 <LibrarianofHope> phone issue?

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18:54 <PinkieShy> my brother just told me some bad news about why his tooth turned black.. o_o

18:55 <PinkieShy> he went to dentist, and found out.. its periodontal disease and he needs to get the effected teeth pulled.

18:55 <PinkieShy> :(

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18:55 <Schism> There are worse results.

18:55 <PinkieShy> apparently they told him.. if he doesn't get it or try to get it fixed now.. he could end up losing all his teeth.

18:56 <Schism> Yup.

18:56 <Schism> Infections spread.

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18:59 <LibrarianofHope> heck

18:59 <LibrarianofHope> i have a cousin with all fake teeth, seems happy about it

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19:02 <LibrarianofHope> i never had real teeth issues ever, im a mutant

19:02 <DashedRainbows> me neither

19:03 <LibrarianofHope> we are weird mutat teeth guys

19:03 <LibrarianofHope> yay

19:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Let's Review: FIENDship is Magic #4 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4x9yce9 ]

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19:30 * DashedRainbows chews on LibrarianofHope

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19:35 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> hi

19:36 <Reiko> Hey

19:36 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> im new

19:36 <DashedRainbows> yo

19:36 <Reiko> Hmmm

19:36 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> i was wondering...

19:36 <Reiko> Hmmm

19:36 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> if you would like to play a little game of 逃走中... (run for money;tag)

19:37 <Reiko> Err sure i guess

19:37 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> let us begin...

19:37 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *back story of 逃走中*

19:37 <Reiko> I am resting yet

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19:37 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *逃走中 is a tag game where players take the place as runners...

19:38 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> to win go untagged for a set time limit (5 minutes)

19:38 <Reiko> Hmmm, where went to be yet

19:38 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> if you do you win todays prize:270,000 bits

19:38 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *todays map is crystal empire stadium*

19:38 <Reiko> Okay...

19:39 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *3 hunters /ponys in tuxs and dark shades will start seaching for you in 30 seconds! Run!

19:39 <Reiko> There

19:39 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *hunters released/game start*

19:40 <Reiko> Ooh nice

19:40 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *3 hunters vs 1 runner*

19:41 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *4 minutes left;54,000*

19:41 <Reiko> In which the 3 hunter was in fact..

19:41 <Reiko> *bang* 1 runner

19:41 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *little dose he know that a hunter is nearby at this moment...*

19:42 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *hunter has spotted reiko;WARNING! RUN!*

19:42 <Reiko> And my end is a game!

19:43 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *02:00/162,000 biits*

19:43 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *hunter lost sight of target*

19:43 <Reiko> You win by an award yet

19:44 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *60 sec*

19:44 <Reiko> By a puppy?

19:45 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *time up/victory!*

19:45 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *you win...270,000 bits*

19:45 <Reiko> You have to wait...

19:45 <Chronos_time_pressure_games> *ill be back at 2pm gtg*

19:45 <Reiko> You are already dead!

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19:47 <Reiko> And i had a worse nightmare

20:05 <LibrarianofHope> the heck

20:06 <LibrarianofHope> its always when there is no mod

20:10 <Schism> Oh, good.  I'm glad that we had that.

20:10 <LibrarianofHope> had what?

20:18 * Starlight_Glimmer sits on top of Schism

20:18 <Starlight_Glimmer> Tell me what exactly did I just witness?

20:19 <Schism> I'll let you know when I figure it out.

20:19 <Starlight_Glimmer> :D

20:21 * DashedRainbows noms on Starlight_Glimmer's tail

20:22 <LibrarianofHope> umm

20:23 <LibrarianofHope> something about hunters

20:23 <LibrarianofHope> like death tag

20:23 <LibrarianofHope> we need a second ali for the downtime owo

20:24 <DashedRainbows> two Alis hmm

20:24 <Schism> This is fun.  I'm enjoying myself, answering questions of players who are having a hard time entering the server...

20:25 <LibrarianofHope> wut game?

20:26 <Schism> City of Heroes.  There are plenty of newbies who have legitimate questions and concerns.

20:27 <LibrarianofHope> they revived that?

20:27 <Schism> Not officially.  *cough*

20:28 <LibrarianofHope> i saw nothing

20:28 * LibrarianofHope scurries away

20:28 <Schism> You surely wouldn't want to create your very own luchador superhero.

20:28 <Schism> One with a penchant for books.

20:28 <LibrarianofHope> El Librarian de Fuego

20:28 <LibrarianofHope> yeah

20:29 <Schism> Why, that would be absurd.

20:29 <LibrarianofHope> not more than my normal name

20:31 <LibrarianofHope> im not the superhero type.

20:31 <Schism> Well, that's reasonable.  There are also supervillains, of course.

20:31 <LibrarianofHope> there needs to be an allmight and a saitama mod

20:31 <LibrarianofHope> not a villian either, more of a pragamatic leader that means well but can send assasins if needed

20:32 <LibrarianofHope> keep ma options open

20:34 <LibrarianofHope> in spanish schism is cisma

20:34 <LibrarianofHope> sounds cool

20:34 <LibrarianofHope> make a villian called that

20:34 <Starlight_Glimmer> Super villains? Now I'm interested!

20:35 <LibrarianofHope> you are reformed, you will lose span benefits

20:35 <LibrarianofHope> spa

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20:43 <Schism> Well, you can play a Mastermind.  

20:43 <LibrarianofHope> nuuu, i want my spa benefits

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21:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Shard 94-95 / Fear / BoE 7:7 / TwiVPC 14 / AoS 3:25 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5pnjsqj ]

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21:45 <Finwe> o3o

21:45 <Finwe> Good evening, my small equines of various pastel colours.

21:45 <Finwe> Messrs LibrarianofHope and Schism, Miss DashedRainbows.

21:45 * Finwe doffs his hat.

21:46 * DashedRainbows sniffs the Finwe. Smells fancy

21:58 * Finwe hats on DashedRainbows.

22:00 * LibrarianofHope gives the power to finwe in the form of a beer

22:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Club Pony Party Palace Music: Crusader! - Club Pony Party Style [Pop/Electronic] [ http://tinyurl.com/y2zflsaj ]

22:08 <Finwe> :3

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22:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

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22:33 * LibrarianofHope pokes ali

22:33 * Ali squeaks and falls over

22:33 <LibrarianofHope> we had a very weird thing a bit before

22:34 <LibrarianofHope> reiko did something bizarre, fun times

22:34 * Ali headtilts

22:34 <LibrarianofHope> hard to explain, was strange

22:35 <Reiko> Like that?

22:35 * LibrarianofHope gives ali a mango

22:35 * Ali squeaks and nuu's, not the attractor of bat ponies fruit

22:37 * DashedRainbows sniffs Ali

22:37 * Ali pushes mango to DashedRainbows before bat ponies find her.

22:38 * LibrarianofHope gives 10 mangos

22:39 * DashedRainbows chews on Ali's hooves and throws mango

22:40 <PinkieShy> now i can get my gaming on better..

22:42 * LibrarianofHope get gaming on mango vision

22:44 *** Ali is now known as Ali|Nap

22:45 * DashedRainbows lays out hay in the center of the channel

22:59 * DashedRainbows casts a random spell from LibrarianofHope

22:59 * LibrarianofHope turns ali into a mango

23:01 * DashedRainbows reads another

23:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: What Character Flaw Do You Want them to Bring Out and Explore for an Entire Episode?  [ http://tinyurl.com/y2mytwed ]

23:14 * LibrarianofHope shows the truht of the universe

23:14 <LibrarianofHope> its tacos

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23:52 <Schism> How do I get people to stop thinking that I'm a reasonable authority in any way, shape or form?

23:53 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Comic #77 - 3 Page iTunes Preview Released [ http://tinyurl.com/y393l3km ]

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