00:03 <LibrarianofHope> !moo
00:03 <DerpyBot> Who are you calling a cow?!
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00:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Bedtime Tussle / Claws and Hooves / Always Faster / TwiVPC 17 / Fighting Love 4 [ http://tinyurl.com/y33ylxcy ]
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00:26 <ADragonDreaming> I am so tired of being tired
00:29 <LunanightwindBrowser_> good evening everyone
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01:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: Sunset Shimmer and the Last Trial of Daring Do [ http://tinyurl.com/y3hww23g ]
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01:22 <LunanightwindBrowser_> hi ali
01:22 <LunanightwindBrowser_> sorry i was doing a little scambaiting
01:22 <LunanightwindBrowser_> was bored
01:23 * Ali nods and leans into LunanightwindBrowser_
01:26 <LunanightwindBrowser_> found out that an old PC game can be downloaded free today and i said shoot im gonna download that
01:28 <Ali> What game be that LunanightwindBrowser_?
01:28 <LunanightwindBrowser_> Noone Lives Forever
01:28 <LunanightwindBrowser_> its a FPS from like 2000 you play as a woman spy and the game is kinda like a 60's era james bond style spy game
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01:49 <LunaNightwind> hey ali Im back had to reboot computer
01:50 * Ali and snugs on LunaNightwind
01:54 <RazorSharpFang> Is gravy a sauce?
01:56 * LunaNightwind snugs back
01:59 <Cepheid> Shocker.
01:59 <Cepheid> The LRT project is delayed again.
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02:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1800 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3ap89sm ]
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02:59 <Cepheid> Anyone else get that problem where if something agitates them, they immediately want to vomit?
03:02 <Cepheid> I'm starting to think it's a stress reaction, an adrenaline surge due to stress, given how I go from 0% to 100% in the snap of a finger.
03:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Phone Line Music: Spikey Wikey - H.O.R.S.E. (The Word Is) [Tech House] [ http://tinyurl.com/yxmt7n9f ]
03:19 <Cepheid> https://www.twitch.tv/cepheidvar/ Streamin' Buns.
03:20 <Cepheid> Should be fun. Doing end-boss of post-game. Badgeless. Unlike Schism's run the other night.
03:22 <LunaNightwind> followed
03:28 <PinkieShy> why.. why does stuff always happen to me.
03:28 <PinkieShy> Why does bad luck happen.. :/
03:28 <PinkieShy> Is that how i'll die someday.. Die by bad luck.. :/
03:34 <PinkieShy> It would be nice.. To have a little bit of good luck.. at least once.
03:34 <DashedRainbows> hmm
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03:47 <Cepheid> Getting better.
03:47 <Cepheid> Patterns are starting to become memorized.
03:59 * PinkieShy hugs DashedRainbows :(
03:59 <PinkieShy> I'm still upset about the PC being DOA.. :( I was looking forward it to!!
04:02 * DashedRainbows sits by PinkieShy yeah that always sucks
04:02 <PinkieShy> It almost made me break down in tears.
04:03 <PinkieShy> I wanted my PC to come, be perfect and be done with the PC blues.
04:04 <DashedRainbows> my old laptop came defective so I know the feeling
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04:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 9+ 0:00 / 0:43 Empty Spaces (Linkin Pony Animation) [ http://tinyurl.com/y6rc3tgc ]
04:06 <PinkieShy> DashedRainbows the PC lights up on the motherboard, But doesn't turn on at all.
04:06 <PinkieShy> and Ibuypower told me.. If the machine breaks during shipping they'll blame it all on me and charge me to replace the parts.
04:06 <DashedRainbows> dead gpu perhaps
04:07 <DashedRainbows> shipping, ugh
04:07 <PinkieShy> No don't htink so on GPU
04:08 <PinkieShy> It it was GPU the system would still turn on but no display.
04:08 <PinkieShy> Motherboard more likely has a short..
04:08 <DashedRainbows> ah I thought it did turn on, my bad
04:11 <PinkieShy> They did leave out a Standoff screw.. I mean if they do it on the new system.. then i mean.. Okay i got a spare screw but yea.. still stupid..
04:12 <DashedRainbows> hmm, that's not a good sign
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05:23 * DashedRainbows runs around bopping small horses
05:24 * Ali puffycheeks and boops DashedRainbows back
05:25 <PinkieShy> Ali, and DashedRainbows and any others..
05:25 <PinkieShy> Should i just let them try to make it right, or call them up tomorrow and change the RMA to be a full refund request
05:25 * DashedRainbows pets the Ali
05:26 * Ali ponyshrugs
05:26 <PinkieShy> Like if you were in my place, would you try to get it fixed or not give them a second chance?
05:28 <DashedRainbows> I'm too biased to say
05:28 <DashedRainbows> I don't really like oems in general
05:30 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
05:31 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows, Messrs Cepheid, PinkieShy and Schism.
05:31 * Finwe doffs his hat.
05:31 * DashedRainbows licks Finwe and barks
05:33 <PinkieShy> Wait a minute..
05:33 <PinkieShy> Throw a tomato in VR..
05:34 <PinkieShy> Threw a Pizza in VR..
05:34 <PinkieShy> Wouldn't throwing a pizza almost be like throwing a tomato being the fact pizza has Tomato sauce...
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05:35 <DashedRainbows> The sauce is so good
05:36 <PinkieShy> I'm not a fan :P
05:36 <PinkieShy> Dominoes floods the pizza with it.
05:36 <DashedRainbows> I had a calsone today. Delicious
05:37 <PinkieShy> Pizza hut barely puts any on the pizza and the pizza is so perfect:D
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05:37 <DashedRainbows> Meh pizza hut's is a bit too sweet
05:38 <PinkieShy> Now.. back in the day.. Papa Johns pizza..
05:38 <PinkieShy> They must add sugar to it or something..
05:38 <PinkieShy> I could probably eat a whole pizza or two in a sitting..
05:38 <PinkieShy> But they are to expensive..
05:39 <DashedRainbows> Not me anymore
05:39 <PinkieShy> First time i had little ceasars.. I ate a whole pizza.. XD
05:39 <DashedRainbows> ~4 slices
05:40 <PinkieShy> I'll say this much
05:40 <PinkieShy> It made me not eat to much pizza now..
05:41 <PinkieShy> I was eating maybe twice a month.. 2 medium pizzas..
05:41 <PinkieShy> all to myself in a day or two.
05:41 <PinkieShy> Last year it made me have to use the bathroom.. Probably 30 times in a day.. >_>
05:41 <PinkieShy> maybe more..
05:41 <DashedRainbows> That's... Not good
05:42 <DashedRainbows> I want pizza now
05:42 <DashedRainbows> Or even some pasta with Alfredo
05:43 <PinkieShy> We have a pizza buffet here. :P
05:43 <PinkieShy> Pizza Inn.. My brother works there.
05:44 <DashedRainbows> (un) fortunately I have little access to transportation
05:58 * Ali snugs on the Persona and DashedRainbows
05:59 <Ali> Of course I'd tab fail
05:59 * Ali hugs PinkieShy for her failure
06:00 * DashedRainbows pants and chews on Ali's hooves
06:03 * Ali chews on DashedRainbows tail
06:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Comic: Pinkie Pie Says Goodnight – Italian Torment [ http://tinyurl.com/y2y4gjo7 ]
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06:16 <PinkieShy> Ali I should have listened to the bad reviews.. :/
06:16 <PinkieShy> But the idiot i am.. Didn't.. thinking it wouldn't be me.. But.. It was.
06:17 <PinkieShy> at least i get to keep the gaming mouse and keyboard for the time being.
06:17 <PinkieShy> don't have to send those back.. the mouse is different, but feels premium yet cheap at the same time.
06:17 <PinkieShy> If that makes any sense.
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07:42 * Schism boops the Ali with Applejack the Foremost, Legendary Horse Soldier. 3/3, 3WBG, and whenever she attacks, put a +1/+1 counter on a different tapped target creature. All creatures you control with a +1/+1 counter are indestructable.
07:42 <Schism> indestructible*
07:42 * Ali flails at Schism as she prefers Grixis right now
07:43 * Ali Bolas's all over Schism
07:43 <Schism> RBU? I guess I can see that... >>;
07:44 <Schism> Though red and black unicorns are so gauche.
07:44 <Schism> They're hardly cute at all!
07:46 <Ali> well right now there's two decent Bolas's out
07:46 <Ali> The creature Bolas that flips to a PW, and the PW Bolas from War of the Spark
07:47 * Schism refreshes his memory on the WOTS one. "Oh, yeah. That's a lot of exile."
07:48 <Ali> And he has the abilities of all PWs in play Schism
07:48 <Schism> Oh right, wrong type. I was looking at the 4UBR, instead of the UBBBR.
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07:49 <Schism> Gods, it's been ages. Can you have more than one PW on the field at once?
07:53 <Schism> Ah, I see no. And most 'unique' plainswalkers are now classified as such.
07:56 <Ali> Schism, how it works now
07:56 <Ali> Is each player can own a copy of the same name planeswalker
07:56 <Ali> But you can have two Bolas out as long as they don't share the same whole name
07:56 <Ali> So you can have the M19 Bolas and the War Bolas out at the same time.
07:56 * Schism nods, "Those creatures share a type, but not the same name."
07:57 <Schism> I've been reading the Oracle rulings thereof.
07:58 <Ali> Right, so what's also funny
07:58 <Ali> Is I can have M19 creature Bolas, M19 PW Bolas, and War Bolas out all at the same time
07:58 <Schism> Something something multiversal time travel. X3
08:00 <Schism> "It's not really time travel. You're traversing different weaves, and sometimes your thread goes from warp to woof without interstitual... none of this metaphor makes any sense to you, does it?" "Nope." "Nada." "...Woof?"
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08:51 <Finwe> Capt Koopz.
08:51 <Finwe> o7
08:51 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
08:51 * Finwe noms on Ali.
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09:04 * Ali squeaks
09:04 <Lumindia> compuiter installing updates woke me up
09:04 * Finwe oils Ali's gears and cogwheels.
09:04 * Lumindia grumps externally
09:07 * Ali brushies the Lumindia
09:09 * Lumindia leans against Ali
09:14 <Lumindia> Ali is a nice pony
09:14 <Lumindia> <3
09:16 * Ali yawns at Lumindia and flops over
09:16 * Lumindia snugs
09:21 <Koopz> i've survived the last 2 months without coffee
09:21 <Koopz> looking at this channel somehow makes me crave for a cup right now
09:44 <Lumindia> .....
09:44 <Lumindia> how are you alive?
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09:53 <Koopz> i gave in to my body and decided to go to bed an hour earlier than usual
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11:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1571 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4zaxxlk ]
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11:34 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Italian My Little Pony Season 9 Episode 9 - Sweet And Smoky - Stream / Discuss [ http://tinyurl.com/y4ze6gzt ]
11:56 <Tirek> I have been nearly caffeine free for a long time.
11:57 <Tirek> Occasionally having a caffeinated soda once in a while, but usually no more than once weekly
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13:02 <Koopz> yeah i got no coke in my own 4 walls either
13:03 <Koopz> used to always have a box full ready
13:04 <Finwe> Box of what now?
13:04 <Koopz> and drink 2 bottles at the weekend
13:04 <Koopz> Coka Cola
13:04 * Koopz rubs white powder from his nose
13:04 <Koopz> what did you think?
13:04 * Finwe hats on Koopz.
13:05 <Koopz> 🧐
13:05 <Finwe> I have to get to my banking theory lecture.
13:05 <Finwe> See you later, everypony!
13:05 * Finwe flies off.
13:20 <Finwe> What did Emperor Palpatine say while washing off sweat after an intensive tennis match?
13:21 <Finwe> o3o?
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14:24 <DashedRainbows> Good morning small horses
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15:19 <Finwe> Mr LibrarianofHope.
15:19 * Finwe doffs his hat.
15:20 * LibrarianofHope doffs a cookie
15:21 <LibrarianofHope> mista finwe
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15:41 * Finwe hoof-wiggles!
15:41 <Finwe> !plot
15:41 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
15:41 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
15:42 <DashedRainbows> wigglewiggle
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17:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Flight Amongst Pegasi Music: BlueBrony - Flight Machine [Orchestral Pop] [ http://tinyurl.com/y5tbwauk ]
17:14 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: BAT Story: Just a Little Batty (Update Complete!) [ http://tinyurl.com/y29bgkhu ]
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18:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Michelle Creber and Gabriel Brown Groove Into BronyCon [ http://tinyurl.com/y588z9wp ]
18:30 <Cepheid> It's a nice day out, I think I'll open my cur- OH GOD I'M BLIND!
18:38 * LibrarianofHope gives bionic eyes to cepehid
18:38 <LibrarianofHope> they have glitches, might result in banana view
18:41 <Cepheid> Better than the eyes I have. I already have a banana view with 'em. Floaters, mostly.
18:43 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/bpdnzs/ajax_captain_matthijs_de_ligt_catches_a_can_of/?st=jvr040gz&sh=a0d65f99 Not sure if that beer can was thrown at the mayor so they can enjoy it, or if that can was thrown as a weapon.
18:46 * DashedRainbows reads LibrarianofHope
18:48 <Cepheid> ...
18:48 <Cepheid> They legitimately could not have timed this any better.
18:49 <Cepheid> See, all morning, there was work being done on the windows of our next door neighbours. Quite loud, lots of hammering, etc.
18:49 <Cepheid> Well, that crew just finished up. In time for the yard working crew to appear.
18:49 <Cepheid> And start up their incredibly loud lawn mowers.
19:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2980 [ http://tinyurl.com/yyvco2hz ]
19:10 <Cepheid> Geezus hells alive guys. That don't sound right.
19:10 <Cepheid> Their trick was making this god-awful rumbling noise. Shook the house.
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19:29 <LibrarianofHope> i had a figgin building built besides my house
19:29 <LibrarianofHope> point here is that mexican houses have no gap between them
19:29 <LibrarianofHope> thats was awfull
19:29 <LibrarianofHope> 2 years
19:34 <Cepheid> Oh gods.
19:35 <Cepheid> In our case, the only reason the window-work was a pain is that I'm in what's called a townhouse.
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19:35 <Cepheid> It's a combined number of housing units in one building.
19:35 <Cepheid> So work being done at the far end of the building can be felt here, for example.
19:37 <LibrarianofHope> there no gap on those it seems
19:37 <LibrarianofHope> or so says wikipedia
19:37 <Cepheid> More or less.
19:38 <Cepheid> It's one long building.
19:38 <Cepheid> But that said, I've never had construction work done immediately next door.
19:38 <Cepheid> Closest thus far has been the retirement home over at Innes and Page.
19:38 <Cepheid> And the housing along Page, including attempts to rebuild The House.
19:40 <LibrarianofHope> let me tell you a nice highlight about that
19:40 <LibrarianofHope> at the very start they demolished the house next door
19:40 <LibrarianofHope> we had a sort of common wall that blocked access from each other
19:41 <LibrarianofHope> they brought it down and the laborers, famously prones to stealing in thos city, had fulll acess
19:41 <LibrarianofHope> we had to have people as lookouts to keep them out, and my akitas helped too
19:42 <LibrarianofHope> by midday that day we had a full razor fence installed, but it was a major pain
19:43 <Cepheid> I'd love to say that the situation would be different here, but thanks to one TV show, I do not trust builders and contractors.
19:44 <LibrarianofHope> here they are openly thiefs as a group.
19:44 <LibrarianofHope> no mincing it.
19:46 <LibrarianofHope> my house is a bunker, huge metal door with 3 locks, and bolts, iron gates everywhere, razor wire around the edges and lots of extra locks
19:46 <Cepheid> Here, it's actually a bit more insidious. Many contractors get a contract with customers, do some of the work, fail to pay the people they hire to work for them, then run off with the money, or continually demand more money. If you fail to pay them, they put a lean on your house, which hurts you as an individual in terms of credit, etc, etc.
19:46 <Cepheid> Try to file a lawsuit, you'll lose, because the argument is that they did some of the work.
19:47 <Cepheid> If the other person ran off, they usually close down their business and re-open under a new name, indemnifying them from lawsuits as well.
19:52 * Cepheid wanders off to take a shower.
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20:04 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy til he's dripping
20:09 * PinkieShy hugs DashedRainbows
20:10 <PinkieShy> Fedex got the PC earlier.. now begins me worrying about it getting to Cali alright with no more damage..
20:10 <Lumindia> https://www.humblebundle.com/store/guacamelee-super-turbo-championship-edition
20:10 <PinkieShy> and then next month.. I get it back and hopefully no more issues.
20:13 * Starlight_Glimmer sits on Lumindia
20:14 <Starlight_Glimmer> I was thinking about playing Bioshock Infinite again
20:14 * Lumindia is sat on by GlimGlam
20:14 <Lumindia> o 3o
20:31 <Cepheid> Hum.
20:33 <Schism> Cepheid: Hmm, Guacamelee is a Metroidvania... perhaps that might be a good choice to play.
20:33 <Schism> And thanks for the link, Lumindia. o3o;
20:34 <Cepheid> Yeah, I was thinking that.
20:36 <Lumindia> and yeah, it's free.
20:36 <Cepheid> I grabbed it.
20:36 <Lumindia> ay
20:37 <Cepheid> https://github.com/GtkSharp/GtkSharp/blob/develop/Source/Libs/Shared/GLibrary.cs Lines 16 through 25 piss me off.
20:38 <Cepheid> To better understand the issue: Those are hardcoded filenames to DLLs and shared libraries loaded by GtkSharp during execution.
20:38 <Cepheid> Why is this a problem?
20:38 <Cepheid> Because the default configuration for compiling from source, under Windows, at least, does not append the "0-0" to the filename.
20:39 <Cepheid> It's just "***-2.dll"
20:39 <Cepheid> So when I try to run any application built against GtkSharp under Windows, with my from-source GTK install, it won't work.
20:39 <Cepheid> Because it can't find the requisite files. :D
20:39 <Cepheid> Even though I have the requisite files.
20:41 <Cepheid> The world needs a new system to resolve this.
20:41 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, while I can design and implement this system, it'd be a waste of time.
20:44 <Cepheid> Also, we have enough software problems as is.
20:46 <Cepheid> The only reasonable, working solution is to either package all the libraries the executable was built against along with the executable, or to statically link everything into the executable. But that kinda defeats a lot of things that have been implemented over the decades to improve memory usage and such.
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21:00 <Cepheid> I have a grand, stupid idea to solve the problem.
21:00 <Cepheid> It'll never work. It'll never get adopted.
21:06 <Cepheid> Basically, a server that idles on machines. It's platform-agnostic, outside of needing an IPC method. When libraries are installed, via whatever mechanism, they register themselves with the library, specifying three things: Library name, API version, and path to the library. When a program wants to dynamically load a library, they open an IPC channel to the server, and request a library, specifying an API version(including
21:06 <Cepheid> whether or not it's a minimum, explicit, or maximum version), and then get back an OS-specific path to the file, if one exists.
21:06 <Cepheid> Er, register themselves with the server*
21:08 <Cepheid> I am heavily tempted to implement this as a proof-of-concept.
21:08 <Cepheid> Because worst-case scenario, it's rejected. Best case scenario, it works, it's used, either as a long-term solution, or a shim, short-term solution until a better one can be found.
21:09 <Schism> It... hrm. Seems like if the implementation's done wrong, or even right, it might count as a potential security flaw?
21:10 <Cepheid> Indeed.
21:10 <Cepheid> That's the problem.
21:10 <Cepheid> Security, among other things.
21:10 <Cepheid> But there's no working long-term solution to this DLL hell that we've created.
21:10 <Cepheid> There's no standard on naming conventions across platforms for libraries. There's no standard for location of libraries, executables, or anything across platforms.
21:10 <Schism> Heh. To security techs, 'convenience' is a four-letter word.
21:11 <Cepheid> And what standards exist are being outright ignored anyways.
21:11 <Schism> You could create a new one! ...(now there are 13 competing standards)
21:11 <Cepheid> The most recent change to the UNIX filesystem standard, that is still being worked on by distros, is the merge of /bin, /sbin, and other similar folders, with /usr/bin
21:11 <Cepheid> Which itself is causing hell now.
21:12 <Schism> It kinda makes sense to consolidate those, certainly, especially under /usr, but yyyyyup.
21:12 <Cepheid> Because /bin, /sbin and the like are now symbolic links, instead of folders with their respective, expected files. And if you have /bin, /sbin and /usr/bin in the same path..
21:12 <Cepheid> Some programs just outright break.
21:12 <Cepheid> Normally when you do this merge, you remove /bin and /sbin from the PATH environment variable.
21:12 <Cepheid> But hey, hey, guess what?
21:12 <Schism> Not everything does that.
21:13 <Cepheid> Some programs, upon starting up, change the PATH environment variable.
21:13 <Cepheid> And guess what they do to it?
21:13 <Schism> ... ow.
21:13 <Cepheid> They add /bin, /sbin to the PATH environment variable because THEY'RE MISSING! :D
21:13 <Cepheid> I had this problem recently.
21:13 <Cepheid> Turns out the display manager I was using was adding those to the PATH environment variable upon loading.
21:14 <Cepheid> So before I got to the GUI, it was fine.
21:14 <Cepheid> After I got into a GUI, it'd be busted as hell.
21:14 <Cepheid> And guess what? This hasn't been fixed yet.
21:14 <Cepheid> Because the community is split on the whole merge thing to begin with.
21:14 <Cepheid> Some don't want to conform to the idea.
21:14 * Cepheid drinks some tea to calm down.
21:15 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, under Windows, the mess is kind of worse for libraries and such.
21:15 <Cepheid> There's no standard designed for where to place libraries.
21:16 <Cepheid> As a result, you need some sort of non-standard configuration file for Windows to find packages.
21:17 <Cepheid> Currently, my configuration files look in a path defined as TOOLS_ROOT, wherein the directory structure within the directory specified by that variable is identical to the Linux structure.
21:17 <Cepheid> Which, thus far, has worked for me.
21:19 <PinkieShy> You know.. When support for Windows 7 comes, It'll be like windows xp.. People continuing to use it for years and years to come regardless.
21:19 <PinkieShy> Heathcare providers i've seen still using windows xp.. lol
21:20 <Cepheid> But then you get stupid ******** like GtkSharp where people decide that using a language-based dynamic library loader is the better choice, and then hardcode filenames into the application thus BREAKING THE BLOODY THING.
21:20 <Cepheid> Which, by the way, is a huge security risk in itself.
21:20 <Cepheid> So I mean, damned if you use my above idea, damned if you don't.
21:21 <Schism> Noooo, surely hardcoding such things couldn't possibly go wrong.
21:21 <Cepheid> I could throw in any DLL with the same name in the executable's directory, and they'll get loaded instead of the intended DLLs.
21:21 <Cepheid> And if those DLLs are maliciously crafted to supply the requisite functionality, but do some FUN stuff..
21:22 <Cepheid> And in the end, it matters not anyways.
21:22 <Cepheid> If a malicious person is in place to change system files, they can do that anyways and every application will then be subject to the exploit.
21:23 <Schism> Pretty much.
21:23 <Cepheid> My above system could potentially be hardened against maliciousness via security certificate usage, but there's nothing to stop a malicious individual from gaining access to the root account and making changes to the database directly, or just, ye know, replacing files.
21:24 <Schism> S'why kernels on any public distro are very, very thoroughly vetted against potential changes. Makes them slow to respond to certain things, but... yeah.
21:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Classic Remix: Brilliant Venture – Moving On From Yesterday (TheBluishPony Remix) [Tropical House] [ http://tinyurl.com/yxrz8tda ]
21:24 <Cepheid> I... just want OpenGL on .NET Core so I can write OpenGL in C#, without using Mono.
21:24 <Schism> Yeeesgh. Yeah.
21:24 <Cepheid> But everything's a cluster****.
21:25 <Cepheid> People only think of one OS, or if they think of multiple OSes, they implement the concept poorly that it just doesn't work.
21:25 <LibrarianofHope> we seem to have a pollution crisis
21:25 <LibrarianofHope> i cant even walk the dogs owo
21:25 <Cepheid> We have all sorts of crises.
21:26 <LibrarianofHope> you are going to need a better pc then
21:27 <Cepheid> I'm gonna rabi some ribis.
21:27 <Schism> Snrk. This page will forever be amusing to me. http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20130710
21:28 <Cepheid> https://www.twitch.tv/cepheidvar/ For those who want to follow along.
21:28 <Cepheid> It'll be a failure-filled extravaganza.
21:29 <Cepheid> Me vs Irisu, no badges, no restorative items, hard difficult.
21:29 * PinkieShy turns into a giant floating tony the tiger head in VR and creeps up behind people and says "They're greeeat!
21:30 <Schism> Oh, and the follow-up to that page: http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20130805
21:34 <Cepheid> Yeah, she starts with 5 debuffs instead of 4 on hard.
21:35 <Cepheid> It's Mortality, No Badges, Amulet Drain, No Attacks, and Instant Death.
21:36 <Schism> Ah yeah, ID. Yeesh.
21:38 <Cepheid> Fun note, after the first "cycle" of her pattern, she gains Defense Down.
21:38 <Cepheid> So she takes a lot more damage.
21:38 <Schism> I think I remember that bit.
21:39 <Cepheid> But yeah, because of the 5 effects at the start, you *HAVE* to take a hit.
21:39 <Cepheid> I take the No Badges, obviously. o3o
21:43 <Schism> Oh, of course. o4o;
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21:47 <Cepheid> Damn. That was the furthest I've gotten too.
21:47 <Cepheid> I can most certainly pull it off, just... yeah.
21:47 <Cepheid> I'm not the best at dodging. I know every attack that's coming up to a certain point.
21:51 <Cepheid> I'm kinda curious.
21:51 <Cepheid> How the hell did I take no damage from the No Badge field the last time?
21:51 <Cepheid> I took 0 damage, and wasn't inflicted with the debuff.
21:53 <Cepheid> Bah, dinner.
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22:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: Chain of Shipping / Silly Lyra - Wallpaper / AHNM #12 / Crusader #17 / Pone War #8.17 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5xmzsam ]
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22:07 <PinkieShy> Opened the fridge last night, had to throw out my strawberries..
22:07 <PinkieShy> Those things had became fuzzy, white and blue.
22:07 <Lumindia> Schism: I had my character drawn!
22:07 <Lumindia> o 3o
22:27 <LibrarianofHope> i wanna see
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22:31 * LibrarianofHope defenstrates building out of Ali
22:32 <Lumindia> ehttps://i.gyazo.com/e27240c322a0138910bbee4a0b9d23f9.png
22:32 <Lumindia> there ya go @LibrarianofHope
22:33 <LibrarianofHope> i love it, i wanna hire him for the hunters guild
22:34 * Ali boops Lumindia, link doesn't work due to an extra e
22:34 <Lumindia> https://i.gyazo.com/e27240c322a0138910bbee4a0b9d23f9.png
22:34 <Lumindia> Then you remove the extra E yourself, 4Head
22:35 <LibrarianofHope> saw it anyway, changed the e
22:36 <LibrarianofHope> its very goo
22:36 <LibrarianofHope> good
22:47 * Finwe hats on Ali.
22:48 <Finwe> Good evening, everypony!
22:50 <Finwe> Messrs LibrarianofHope and Lumindia, Mlles Ali and DashedRainbows.
22:50 * Finwe doffs himself.
22:50 * Lumindia boops Finwe's snoot
22:51 <Finwe> o3o
22:56 <PinkieShy> OOF
22:56 <PinkieShy> My computer chair back just broke.
22:56 <PinkieShy> Like a thin plastic backing to it
22:56 <PinkieShy> :/
22:56 <PinkieShy> this chair is falling apart
22:59 <PinkieShy> might be able to super blue it back.. or tape it with duct tape..
23:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Sphinxify a A Pony - Open Art Event - The Submissions! [ http://tinyurl.com/y3hugabz ]
23:12 * DashedRainbows sniffs both Finwe and PinkieShy
23:12 * PinkieShy licks DashedRainbows like a lollipop
23:13 * DashedRainbows doesn't taste good. just like horse
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23:20 * Ali boops Princess-Luna
23:20 * Princess-Luna squeakies
23:22 * Lumindia hugs both the ponies
23:22 <Lumindia> :D
23:22 * Lumindia applies brushings to both of them
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23:24 <Cepheid> Dang.
23:24 <Cepheid> That was the furthest I've gotten. All the way to Phase 3.
23:25 <Cepheid> https://www.twitch.tv/cepheidvar/ again, for those who want to watch me die horribly REPEATEDLY.
23:25 <PinkieShy> Went back to my old keyboard.. the new one.. was hurting my hand which bulky with thinner keys..
23:26 <PinkieShy> at least the keyboard and mouse was free.. the mouse has a dpi button with no software available and pressing the DPI didn't help the mouse slow down like i wanted.. it was to fast.
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23:27 <LibrarianofHope> my brain went flop
23:27 <LibrarianofHope> the pollution issue might have brought burnout faster wiii
23:29 <LibrarianofHope> writing is surprinslingy exhausting
23:29 * LibrarianofHope takes a nap on ali and finwe
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23:59 <Cepheid> Well I botched that shot..
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