Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Wednesday, 2019-05-22

00:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Lifeboat / Prank / AoS 4:1 / Greater Flame 26 / Incedent 2 [ http://tinyurl.com/y2ecosxp ]

00:21 * Cepheid wobbles up.

00:22 <Cepheid> Okay, I have questions.

00:22 <Cepheid> Did I say or do anything weird/concerning/odd earlier this morning?

00:22 <Cepheid> Because I woke up to stories from my mother, and I have a blank spot in my memory

00:23 <Schism> Slightly, but no more than anyone who's sleep-deprived.

00:23 <Cepheid> She told me she found me asleep on the lay-z-boy chair, completely out of it that yelling at me did little, and that she had to follow me upstairs while I was wobbling around horribly

00:23 <Cepheid> And I have no memory of anything after mentioning that I'd be creating art after waking up tonight.

00:23 <Cepheid> That means the discussion I had with Rifty after that point is..

00:24 <Cepheid> I was completely out of it.

00:24 <Schism> You were... out of it, but you didn't do anything particularly embarassing.

00:24 <Schism> Mostly talkin' about yer wee namblies and the yuckle cultists.

00:25 <Schism> (You were fine, just kind of... slurring, text-wise.)

00:26 <Cepheid> Yeah, so I see.

00:26 <Cepheid> Everything past "I have some art to make..." I do not recall.

00:26 <Cepheid> My mother woke up shortly after that because apparently, I had fallen asleep, and my laptop fell onto the floor off of my lap.

00:26 <Cepheid> My mother apparently slapped me several times to get my attention.

00:27 <Cepheid> From what I can tell, at some time I consumed extra medication.

00:27 <Cepheid> How, and why, I don't know.

00:27 <Cepheid> We know which medication it was, and it's been disposed of.

00:29 <Cepheid> My seroquel doesn't do that to me, but there's another pill I have, which can kind of "amplify" the effect.

00:29 <Cepheid> I was originally supposed to discard it a while back, but we never got around to it.

00:29 <Cepheid> I think that I combined it with that, and it really, really knocked me out.

00:31 <Cepheid> In any case I'm fine now.  Groggy still, but alert.

00:52 <Cepheid> Long story short, I drugged myself badly, have no memmory of it, and the drugs in question are gone.

00:54 <Moongoodboy> [04:49:41] < Cepheid> I feel in,  In motion,I'm a little slggish,  But it is annplouing matek.  Coordinateionn is imjopaired.

00:54 <Moongoodboy> [05:03:47] < Cepheid> I think I underatand the appeal of usingdrivesl

00:55 <Moongoodboy> nonconsecutive; the second one is the last message from you to this channel before now

00:56 <Cepheid> Yeah I know.

00:56 <Cepheid> I see the log.

00:56 <Cepheid> I have literally no idea what I was thinking or doing.  I have no memory of the entire period.

00:56 <Cepheid> 4 minutes of my life that I've lost.

01:00 <Cepheid> I feel really groggy though, and I need to correct my sleep cycle, so I think tonight, I'll lay in bed and not have a coffee.

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01:53 * DashedRainbows chews on a squeaky toy. then licks Ali to compare the squeaks

01:53 * Ali squeaks of course

01:53 <DashedRainbows> Ali has the superior squeak

02:00 * PinkieShy turns into a pony with the Halo suit on

02:01 * PinkieShy hugs Ali

02:02 * PinkieShy hugs DashedRainbows and gives them both licks :D

02:02 * Ali squeaks

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02:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1807 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3a4ox7p ]

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02:39 * DashedRainbows sniffs PinkieShy and wags her tail

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03:17 * PinkieShy teleports DashedRainbows into headpat simulator

03:40 * DashedRainbows yays

03:53 * DashedRainbows boops PinkieShy's horn repeatedly

03:53 <Schism> Ali has, of course, the cutest squeak.

03:54 <DashedRainbows> she's a cute unicorn

03:54 <Schism> Now, now.  She is not cute.  Her squeaks and actions, on the other hand...

03:55 * Ali is not cute

03:56 * DashedRainbows sniffs Ali. even her smell is of cute. but she's not cute apparently

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04:19 <Cepheid> TOok a short 2-3 hour nap, grogginess is gone, I feel great.

04:20 <Cepheid> NEver again will I mix medication like that though, given how out of it my mother described me, I probably could have hurt myself seriously.

04:24 <Cepheid> Folks, I need a random codename for a project.

04:24 <Cepheid> I don't want to assign the project's name as it's repository name, since I don't know what I plan to call the project in the first place.

04:24 <Cepheid> At the moment, it's sitting in a folder named Test, using the namespace "Test"

04:25 <Cepheid> It's a bullet hell engine of my own design.  Haven't decided if it's gonna be a platform bullet-hell or a standard-form bullet-hell yet.

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04:30 <Cepheid> There's a codename generator out there.

04:30 <Cepheid> http://projectcodename.com

04:31 <ADragonDreaming> Codename Rubber Duck

04:31 <Cepheid> The above generator gave me "Warring Barnacle" which sounds awesome.

04:32 <Cepheid> Given barnacles are stationary.

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05:15 <Cepheid> Razor, what kind of licenses do you prefer to use for your projects?

05:16 <Razor> Hmm, I like the apache license myself.

05:16 *** Razor is now known as RazorSharpFang

05:17 <RazorSharpFang> But that's for like, tools I make, like ProjectMacro , sorta like "Anything goes".

05:18 <RazorSharpFang> If I were to release a game on steam, I'd probably just use the steam boilerplate license until end-of-support, then it'd be apache license for the source.

05:20 <Cepheid> I'm thinking GPL, myself.

05:20 <Cepheid> Package the game, resources and source code.  You buy the game, you're free to do whatever you want with it, so long as you maintain the original license, etc.

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05:27 <Cepheid> That, or a more simpler approach.

05:28 <Cepheid> Closed-source while in active development and improvement, selling for money or accepting donations.  When I get bored, I release the source code as GPL.  If the game was free, resources go GPL too.

05:32 <RazorSharpFang> I'm hoping for a steam release eventually, maybe under early-access. :shrug:

05:35 <Cepheid> Closed-source with an open-source release after I get bored can be done as a steam release, but yeah.

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05:56 <Cepheid> Hell.

05:56 <Cepheid> I got into a discussion about 3D graphics and mathematics as a CS student.

05:56 <Cepheid> And now I want to willingly toy around with random systems of linear equations.

05:56 <Cepheid> And solve them.

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06:03 <Cepheid> If I create a new factorio server, I'm gonna configure it carefully, for the sake of allowing Ali to play with a weaker machine.

06:03 * Ali nods weakly

06:03 <Cepheid> Basically, the changes:  Limited-size map.  All enemies destroyed, no spawning biters.  Unlimited resource spots.

06:03 <Ali> I do miss Factorio  But having no threat seems like its just a free to stink?  I dont' know, might be fun not needing to worry about bugs?

06:03 <Cepheid> Goal will be to simply abuse the resources we start with to see just how fast we can produce rocket parts.

06:04 <Cepheid> The only catch?

06:04 <Cepheid> No achievements, so if you want that..

06:04 <Ali> I mean I've got most of the important ones

06:04 <Cepheid> Yeah.

06:04 <Ali> Just the big one I don't have is Lazy *yay*

06:04 <Cepheid> Heh.

06:04 <Ali> And the fast rockets are disabled if you custom the bugs off

06:05 <Cepheid> I'll start the server later, as I need to look into the mods for unlimited resources.

06:05 <Ali> By that I mean beat the game in 8/15h

06:05 <Cepheid> Alternatively, I do something else.

06:05 <Ali> Mods can hurt me a bit?  I'm not sure

06:05 <Cepheid> Nah, I know how to avoid mods.

06:05 <RazorSharpFang> We could always do another seablock run. :3

06:05 <Cepheid> Nah.

06:06 <RazorSharpFang> I'm up to green science in my own seablock run. I'm almost four 24 hour days into the run.

06:06 <Cepheid> My idea is simple.  It'll be a special server, the goal is to launch a rocket ASAP, and then increase the launch rate as quickly as possible, using what's available.

06:06 <Cepheid> I'll BRB though.

06:10 <Cepheid> Back, anyways, some variables need to be set up.

06:10 <Cepheid> The goal, launch a rocket, and see how far we can go with launching rockets.  That is, how frequently can we launch a rocket.  THat'll be our goal.

06:10 <RazorSharpFang> Would you use an infinite ore mod?

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06:11 <Ali> Didn't he say no mods?

06:11 <Cepheid> The world, 100x100 chunks.  That's 3,200x3,200 tiles to work with.  For variation, I'll disable all water generation.  In the place of the starting lake, I'll generate a 100x100 man-made square lake of water.

06:13 <Cepheid> All the resource spots will be wiped away.  In their place, I'll create a set of 100x100 patches of each ore/stone, at maximum density, such that we won't run out anytime soon, EVER.  25 oil wells, in a 5x5 grid, with an oil density that matches the ore patches, will be placed.

06:13 <Ali> Too bad the game doesn't allow you to dig out water patches

06:14 <Cepheid> Rather than infinite ore-mod usage, I'll just create patches of ore that may as well be infinite for our purposes.

06:14 <RazorSharpFang> There are mods for that.

06:14 <RazorSharpFang> Without water patches, we'd be barred from nuclear power basically.

06:14 <Cepheid> Yeah.

06:14 <Cepheid> The water will be a centralized lake.

06:14 <Ali> Or steam power

06:14 <Cepheid> I may not be able to dig out within the limits of a player character..

06:14 <Ali> You'd basically be banned from power ever

06:14 <Cepheid> But I can use script commands to generate a lake.

06:14 <Ali> Cause no power is no tech

06:15 <Ali> No tech is no solar

06:15 <Cepheid> Why are you talking like there's gonna be no power?

06:15 <RazorSharpFang> Ali, I think we'll have a starting lake, just no water elsewhere.

06:15 <Ali> I was blabbing to RazorSharpFang

06:15 <Cepheid> Yes.

06:15 <Cepheid> We'll have starting water.

06:15 <Cepheid> No water elsewhere.

06:15 <Ali> You kinda have to

06:15 <Ali> If there's no water on the map

06:15 <RazorSharpFang> Nuclear power demands a lot of water, unfortunately.

06:15 <Ali> You'd have to make the solar tech unlocked at the start

06:15 <Cepheid> It's a 100x100 square lake.

06:15 <Cepheid> That is, 100 tiles to a side.

06:15 <Ali> Yes yes I read that

06:16 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I'm not sure if I want to include combat in any way.

06:16 <Cepheid> With no bug bases, there'll be no expansion, no bug spawning.

06:16 <Ali> Well no bugs means no combat

06:16 <Cepheid> But I can use RCON and a script to generate waves of bugs.

06:16 <Ali> And the bases will just be idle until you bugger them

06:17 <Cepheid> Everything I'm suggesting can all be done without mods, so vanilla stuff.

06:17 <Cepheid> I'm actually wondering on one detail though.

06:18 <Cepheid> There's a set of items you can build that are not available in a vanilla game.

06:18 <Ali> Just how crappy my computer is?

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06:18 <Ali> So we'll be using 17.42?

06:19 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'll be updating everything to the latest version.

06:19 <Cepheid> And it's not so much about your computer being crappy either, it's just I like the idea of setting up my own little scenario.

06:19 <Ali> Well I just can't afford to replace the motherboard

06:19 <Cepheid> As for those items I mentioned, they aren't about improving performance, but rather, throughput.

06:19 <Ali> Which is over 10 years old and is severly holding my PC back

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06:20 <Cepheid> As for the items in question, I'll express them in terms of a mod that makes them accessible.

06:21 <RazorSharpFang> Are you talking about loaders?

06:21 <Cepheid> https://mods.factorio.com/mod/vanilla-loaders-hd

06:21 <Cepheid> Loaders.

06:21 <Cepheid> These things are amazing.  The only thing is, they're OP.

06:21 <Cepheid> If I were to allow them, I'd put them behind some hefty research.

06:22 <RazorSharpFang> That would be a mod though.

06:22 <Cepheid> True.

06:22 <Cepheid> Well, it's not like mods are difficult to load anymore, these days.

06:23 <Cepheid> With 0.17 came the ability for the server to distribute the mods to clients.

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06:31 <RazorSharpFang> You can also use the client to install, update and download mods directly

06:35 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

06:36 <Cepheid> But in the above case, it allows for ensuring that the same version, and same configuration, is used.

06:40 <Ali> So is this going up tonight or?

06:41 <RazorSharpFang> Might take a bit, sounds like a lot to me.

06:44 <Cepheid> Not tonight, tomorrow.

06:45 <Cepheid> I'm on the wall about loaders, so I'll leave it up to a vote.  If you want loaders, poke my name and say "Aye" otherwise, say "Nay" or "Neigh"

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06:49 * Ali doesn't really know what loaders are.

06:50 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

06:52 <Cepheid> Hey Rifty.

06:52 <Cepheid> Ali:  Larger than inserters, but you orient them towards a box, or from a box, and it'll insert the items via belts rather than grabbing items and putting them in a box.  Same happens when pulling from a box.

06:53 <ConfusionRift> Aaah yes, loaders.

06:54 <ConfusionRift> They "load" and retrieve items from boxes directly, instead of using an inserter. It's great for storage and mass production.

06:54 <ConfusionRift> It's seamless too.

06:54 * DashedRainbows sniffs ConfusionRift

06:54 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P

06:55 <RazorSharpFang> They're totally OP though.

06:56 * DashedRainbows chews on ConfusionRift's hooves

06:58 <ConfusionRift> They have their limitations. I don't think you can sort with them, or move items from a specific side of a belt to another belt, and such.

06:58 * ConfusionRift patpats DashedRainbows. :P

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07:03 <Cepheid> Hey ConfusionRift, if you ever find me in a state like I was this morning, where I'm getting extremely slurry speech/writing/etc..

07:03 <Cepheid> Tell me to go to bed.

07:04 <Cepheid> Apparently, I fell asleep on the lay-z-boy chair, and my laptop fell off my lap at some point.  My mother came down in response to the noise, found me asleep, and had trouble waking me up.  She slapped me several times.

07:04 <Cepheid> Apparently after that I went upstairs wobbily, and fell asleep.

07:04 <Cepheid> We've since thrown out that other medication I combined with my usual sedative.

07:04 <Cepheid> Because I have absolutely no memory of this incident.

07:04 * ConfusionRift takes out his "Go To Sleep" patented sledgehammer. "Oooo-kaaaay."

07:05 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, you were typing crazy and saying that everything was going blurring and melting.

07:05 * ConfusionRift removes "going".

07:06 <Cepheid> Yeah, so I saw.

07:06 <Cepheid> I mean, I slept really well, but..

07:06 <Cepheid> Yeah.

07:06 <Cepheid> Never gonna do that again.

07:06 <RazorSharpFang> A good sleep, but at what cost?

07:07 <ConfusionRift> "May 21 05:42:31 <Cepheid>I have  problem.  I combine known mediations as a wa y if escaoe,]"

07:07 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's what happened.

07:07 <Cepheid> I actually don't even remember typing any of that.

07:07 <Cepheid> I was so out of it.

07:07 <ConfusionRift> "May 21 05:49:40 <Cepheid>I feel in,  In motion,I'm a little slggish,  But it is annplouing matek.  Coordinateionn is imjopaired."

07:07 <Cepheid> I get the idea Rifty.

07:08 <Cepheid> I'm kind of embarrassed about it. =.=;  And my parents already gave me a lecture.

07:08 <ConfusionRift> The problem was that it happened in a matter of seconds.

07:08 <Cepheid> Yeah, I know.

07:08 <Cepheid> Like I said, I don't remember what happened.

07:08 <Cepheid> It was that impacting.

07:08 <Cepheid> The medication I combined my normal sedative with has been tossed out.

07:09 <Cepheid> And I'm strictly taking only one pill when I need to now, if I'm tired when bedtime comes along, I'm just gonna go with my lack of energy.

07:10 <ConfusionRift> Never again, man. That was worrying. It literally took 8 minutes. I wasn't sure what to do, and I had to get ready for work... or sleep for work.

07:11 <Cepheid> Trust me, my mother was worried as well.

07:11 <Cepheid> She was about to call the hospital because I wasn't waking up.

07:12 <Cepheid> Sorry to scare you like that.

07:12 <Cepheid> Hell, I'm scared that it happened myself, and considerably upset that I caused something like that to happen.

07:14 <ConfusionRift> It's alright. I just hope it doesn't happen again. Though, the culprit medication has been removed.

07:14 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

07:14 <Cepheid> It was supposed to have been disposed of several months ago, actually.

07:15 <Cepheid> As for happening again, it probably won't.  Given that I stopped drinking for a similar reason.

07:15 <Cepheid> I blacked out on the bathroom floor after drinking too much one night, don't remember it.

07:15 <Cepheid> I haven't touched more than even half a beer of alcohol since.

07:16 <Cepheid> Not so sure I want to try certain other legalized compounds, now.

07:18 <Cepheid> It seems that I have a problem with excess of anything.  Internet, games, etc.  Fortunately, most of the things I partake in excess is not bad for me, but..

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07:22 <Cepheid> If there ever is a next time though, ConfusionRift, tell me to go to sleep and ban me from the channel temporarily.

07:23 <ConfusionRift> Okaday.

07:23 * ConfusionRift dusts off the sledgehammer. "It's been a long time, hasn't it?"

07:24 * DashedRainbows trots off

07:24 <Cepheid> It shouldn't happen again, though.  Today I might complain of wobbliness and such though due to sleep exhaustion in general.

07:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Italian My Little Pony Season 9 Episode 13 - Between Dark and Dawn - Stream / Discuss [ http://tinyurl.com/y5ggwla5 ]

07:25 <Cepheid> Anyhooo..

07:25 * Cepheid branches code, starts a resource management class so that he can access graphical resources from anywhere.

07:46 * ConfusionRift installs Win 10 Minecraft and tries it out.

07:46 <ConfusionRift> 0_0;

07:46 <RazorSharpFang> I'm gonna trek to the gym for some exercise.

07:46 <ConfusionRift> Everything is so smooth...

07:47 <ConfusionRift> And pause for a bit, me hungies.

07:50 <Cepheid> That's probably because the Windows 10 version is a non-java build.  It has it's problems compared to the Java version, though, from what I understand.

07:51 <RazorSharpFang> None of the java mods would work on it.

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07:54 * Ali sneks up behind ConfusionRift and hisses

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07:55 <Cepheid> Gah, I hate the concept of current-working-directory.

07:56 <RazorSharpFang> All of the models I've trained are 457 MB of data.

07:57 <Cepheid> Heh.

07:58 * ConfusionRift goes back, and gets hissed by Ali. "Aaaaiiieeee!"

07:58 * Ali explodes on ConfusionRift

07:59 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: I was aware of that. I just completely forgot they were two different beasts.

07:59 * ConfusionRift lost his dirt hut. ;_;

07:59 <Cepheid> Heh.

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08:38 <Cepheid> Oh, ConfusionRift.  Monster Hunter World: Iceborne out september for you.

08:38 <Cepheid> And the hinted monster was, in fact, Nargacuga.

08:38 <ConfusionRift> 0_0

08:38 * ConfusionRift has flashbacks.

08:39 <Cepheid> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOqB4kKRWEQ

08:39 <Cepheid> For me, it's not until later in the year, during the Winter semester.

08:39 <Cepheid> Which ironically seems more appropriate.

08:39 <ConfusionRift> Still have not finished the main story.

08:40 <Cepheid> I have, as has ADRa.

08:40 <Cepheid> Well, sorta.

08:41 <ConfusionRift> Huh, a snow plesioth.

08:42 <ConfusionRift> And an ice Kushala.

08:43 <ConfusionRift> See, I really have been meaning to get back to it, but... I dunno. I guess I'm kinda worn out of the game.

08:43 <Cepheid> Me and ADra completed the main base storyline.  But of course, it extends beyond that.

08:43 <Cepheid> Mr. Moth, AKA "Crystaaaaaallllls" is a fun battle.

09:05 <Cepheid> Right, got a resource loader that also disposes of any IDisposable resources for me upon game unload.

09:06 <Cepheid> Now I just need to create some resource types, resources themselves, and then I can move onto the next item on my TODO list.

09:06 <RazorSharpFang> Are you working in C#?

09:07 <Cepheid> Yes.

09:07 <RazorSharpFang> Still using SDL?

09:07 <Cepheid> No, OpenTK in this case.

09:08 <RazorSharpFang> How's that working out so far?

09:08 <Cepheid> Pretty good, actually.

09:08 <Cepheid> Excepting the input stuff, but I handled that in a dodgy manner.

09:10 <Cepheid> ...?

09:10 * Cepheid looks in e-mail.

09:12 <Cepheid> Apparently, three hiring agencies want to meet with me.

09:12 <RazorSharpFang> Make sure they're not scams.

09:14 <Cepheid> No, they're ones I applied to.

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09:19 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm, I've done my work for today, so I might do some gamedev myself.

09:22 <Cepheid> I've not god a job, yet, so I do gamedev in the meantime while I search for work.

09:24 <RazorSharpFang> Me, I lost my job recently, as operations within the whole state ceased.

09:27 <Cepheid> Oof.

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09:31 <Cepheid> I'm getting old.

09:31 <Cepheid> I had to turn on the keyboard backlight for a moment.

09:35 <Cepheid> Can't wait for .NET Core 3.0 stable to be released.

09:35 <Cepheid> It includes it's own JSON parser, now.

09:35 <Cepheid> And it's interface appears to be better than the Newtonsoft API.

10:16 <Cepheid> I say, as I quickly implement a deserializer for a simple data format.

10:37 <RazorSharpFang> Now, I have the dialogue box follow where the camera is pointing.

10:38 <RazorSharpFang> Which is important, don't want to have the dialogue box halfway off-screen because the player got nudged in a cutscene.

11:16 <Schism> Cepheid: Holy crud.  You know how sometimes the universe gives you a clear-cut warning that you Really Shouldn't Do This Thing?

11:17 <Cepheid> Yes?

11:18 <Schism> Read this.  I'd have a hard time believing it.  https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/857717/i-think-someone-may-be-trying-to-tell-me-something-the-latest-chapter-in-the-car-saga

11:25 <Schism> It's unbelievable.  But I'd have a really hard time saying it's untrue.

11:26 <Cepheid> Not sure I understand what's going on.

11:26 <Schism> Guy looks for a new car.  Gets an offer from a friend of his mother's.  Pulls out money from the bank, and one bill JUST SO HAPPENS to have... /that/ written on it.

11:29 <Cepheid> Yeah, that word doesn't mean anything to me.

11:29 <Schism> Lemon?

11:30 <Cepheid> Didn't look like lemon to me.

11:30 <Cepheid> But even so, I fail to understand the big deal.

11:30 <Schism> Tis, tis.  A lemon is an automobile which /appears/ to be sensible at first glance, but later turns out to have the structural integrity of an ice cream sandwich.

11:30 <Cepheid> Ah.

11:30 <Cepheid> That meaning of the word.

11:31 <Cepheid> Schism, I neither care about cars, nor drive, so...

11:31 <Cepheid> Yeah, wrong person to point to that.

11:31 <Schism> Ah.  X3;  Sorry.  Though honestly, that story is unbelievable anyway...

11:33 * ConfusionRift checks.

11:46 * ConfusionRift hmmms, at the middle point of the fic.

11:46 <Schism> Not a fic.  That's a blog post.

11:46 <RazorSharpFang> What sort of options do people want in their games? like, the options menu.

11:47 <ConfusionRift> It's on FIMFiction, hence that. :P

11:47 <Schism> It reads blog.  :P

11:47 <Schism> RSF: Oh, I'm sure you could get away with just a few things, some key mapping, left-right balance, volume... hah.  People want every option you can possibly squeeze in, of course!

11:48 <RazorSharpFang> I have vsync, mastervolume, sfxvolume, musicvolume, guivolume, language, showfps, drawquality, antialiasing.

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11:49 <Schism> There's an unfortunate set of folks who won't play your game unless you have FOV on a 2D platformer.

11:49 <Schism> But, really, you have a good set there.

11:49 <RazorSharpFang> ... Field of view? On a 2D game??

11:49 <Schism> Hey, I don't pretend to understand them.

11:49 <ConfusionRift> I say go with what you can offer, and not what people want. People want a lot of things in the options, and defer with user. Volume for music and SFX is a standard, but I don't think everyone is gonna actively search for a way to change the position, brightness, and color of a specific pixel.

11:49 <RazorSharpFang> I can understand a FOV slider in a first-person game.

11:52 <Schism> Joking aside, maybe a contrast option or something, but that's about all I can think to add at the start.  (Many games have a colourblind mode.)

11:52 <RazorSharpFang> I'm not really in control of contrast, as it's just sprites and stuff.

11:53 * Cepheid wanders off to take a shower.

11:53 <Schism> Well, depends how you mean.  You could maybe add an outline around the sprites based on alpha levels.

11:54 <RazorSharpFang> Outlines are hard.

11:54 * Schism nods. "True. I'm just throwing ideas out."

11:54 <Schism> But you seem to have most of it handled, honestly.

11:57 <Schism> Hm.  Contrast could mean keeping the foreground sprites at their standard, while providing a greyish or beige overlay to the background.

11:59 <Schism> Depends on the game, but I imagine that might help a few players on accessibility.

12:00 <ConfusionRift> Schism: Yeah, that's a big sign of "NOPE"!

12:01 <Schism> Yeeeeah.  "Lemon" written on a note you pull from the BANK?  Thaaaat's a bit much.

12:02 <ConfusionRift> Not just any bill. A bill you were about to use on something considered as a major life expense.

12:02 * Schism nodnods.

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12:02 <Schism> And neither Estee nor I are particularly superstitious, but sometimes you have to accept that yeah, the universe is trying to tell you something.

12:05 <ConfusionRift> And I'm sorry, but according to the seller's description of why things fell through, it still sounds suspicious.

12:06 <RazorSharpFang> In the case that the options file cannot be opened for reading, but also can't be opened for writing or created, what should I even do?

12:06 <Schism> Well, yeah.  The seller sounds singularly untrustworthy.

12:06 <Schism> .... can't be opened for reading?

12:06 <RazorSharpFang> yeah, you can't read a non-existent file.

12:06 <RazorSharpFang> But suppose it's locked.

12:07 <Schism> Oh, em.  Default to 'standard' settings, I guess.

12:07 <Schism> With a note to the player saying just that, "This is likely a first-time run."

12:07 <RazorSharpFang> Right, but if I can't read nor write to it, I can't save settings that are changed.

12:07 <RazorSharpFang> Suppose I also cannot create the file either.

12:08 <RazorSharpFang> e.g.: Suppose I lack read, write and/or create permissions.

12:08 <Schism> Another note to the player.  "Settings can't be saved.  You may wish to check your permissions before continuing."

12:08 <RazorSharpFang> `Cannot read options.json, but also cannot write to options.json. I am very mad right now.`

12:09 <Schism> Hah, that'd possibly work under the frame of the game itself.

12:10 <ConfusionRift> I'm sure despite its year, that Chevy Cobalt still has an active line for parts, at least more so than a Toyota Previa. It's actually not a bad vehicle in terms of reliability and durability, which should be pretty good with someone who barely uses it. Someone to offer just $500 for it means that they really want it with no hit, or they spotted something bad.

12:11 <Cepheid> So, Schism, Razor, I have a favour to ask of you two.

12:11 <Schism> Twas $2000 they offered, which was the baseline price.  THAT fell through, and suddenly she drops it by 5, 10, 15%... yeeeeah.

12:11 <Schism> Mmmyes?

12:11 <Cepheid> If I ever talk of mixing sedative medication again, harass me somehow.

12:12 <Schism> After last night's few lines of garbled nonsense, I'll be sure to at least warn you away.

12:13 <Schism> Er, the other night's.

12:13 <RazorSharpFang> I'll do my best.

12:13 <ConfusionRift> "She did say the dealership where she got her new car only offered her $500 on the trade-in." That's what I'm referring to. But still, that too.

12:13 <Schism> Ah, right.

12:13 <Cepheid> Schism:  Yes, please.

12:14 <Cepheid> Especially since I have absolutely NO RECOLLECTION OF THE INCIDENT>

12:14 <Cepheid> The mixture was so powerful my mother had trouble waking me up in the first place, because I fell asleep in the living room on the lay-z-boy chair with my laptop on my lap.  She awoke when said laptop slid and fell to the floor.

12:14 <Cepheid> Then she spent about a minute trying to wake me up, and was about to call an ambulance until I eventually woke up and made my way upstairs.

12:15 <Cepheid> I have no recollection of any of this, not even the stuff I was talking about on IRC.

12:15 <Schism> That's not surprising.  I doubt you had any recollection of it while you were typing, either.  It read like you were exceedingly drunk, which of course makes sense in context.

12:15 <Cepheid> Yeah, more or less.

12:16 <Cepheid> So yeah, I'm never to do that again.  Fortunately I'm not able to do that again.

12:16 <Cepheid> The other sedative I was abusing is gone.

12:16 <Schism> You did, at least, let us know ahead of time that you were going to be like that, so most of us were, I suspect, more bemused than anything.  And that's good to hear.

12:16 <Cepheid> Still.

12:16 <Cepheid> Even for me, that's insane.

12:16 <ConfusionRift> Apparently, those few minutes between "I'm mixing these pills real quick" and the messy texting, lights went out. That's kinda scary.

12:16 <Cepheid> Yep.

12:17 <Cepheid> It hit me hard and fast, so hard I didn't even get a chance to move to the bed.

12:17 <ConfusionRift> But yes, we'll keep an eye and will let you know if any of that happens again.

12:18 <ConfusionRift> And I'll bug you and bug you to go to sleep or call someone, to the point of kicking you out if needed.

12:18 <ConfusionRift> ...kicking you out of chat I mean.

12:18 <Cepheid> Right.

12:20 <Cepheid> Anyhoo.

12:21 <Schism> Hmm.  Do you get a beep when you're /ctcp'd?

12:21 <Schism> Huh, your bouncer and all its clients each responded.  Neato.

12:22 <Cepheid> No, I don't.

12:22 <Cepheid> My client is set to silent.

12:22 <Schism> Aha.

12:23 <Cepheid> Anyhoo, I gotta run.  My mother wants to take me out to Service Canada to get my health card renewed, I also need to stop by an old employer to harass them about a job.

12:24 <Schism> Heh.  Have fun, he said with tongue firmly in cheek.

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12:31 <ConfusionRift> Okay, how does one kill a succulent in a few hours?

12:31 <Schism> Salt water usually works.

12:31 <Schism> Or were you asking how it's possible?

12:32 * ConfusionRift sighs. "Calcium in the water might have killed it.

12:32 <Schism> Mmm, that could do it.  Of course, as techs, we provide our very own antilife fields, which are antithetical to all manner of life, save cats and annoying relatives.

12:33 <Schism> (And, occasionally, dogs and other pets.)

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12:36 <Jackie> So

12:36 <Jackie> Is this place alive other than using Discord

12:37 <ConfusionRift> Still here, just not super active. :P

12:37 <Jackie> Oh

12:37 <Jackie> You mean at this time?

12:38 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "I'm here late... or early... depending."

12:46 <ConfusionRift> Urgh, tired, sleeeeeeep.

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13:18 <Finwe> Good afternoon, my small pastel-coloured equines.

13:18 <Finwe> Messrs Cepheid, Jackie and Schism.

13:18 * Finwe doffs his hat.

13:19 <Jackie> The maid bows.

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13:59 <Cepheid> Guess my bouncer bounced off the network.

14:03 <Schism> Netsplit.

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14:06 <Cepheid> Ah.

14:07 <Cepheid> Now to figure out what to do for the next several hours that requires little effort.

14:07 <Cepheid> So as to conserve energy.

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14:22 <Cepheid> https://66.media.tumblr.com/95532c1399a6bff677465396a2c1f81c/tumblr_prg0rjRnUL1t1ig6no1_1280.gif

14:25 <RazorSharpFang> fluff fluff

14:27 <Cepheid> My gods, what the hell are they doing outside?

14:27 <Cepheid> So much noise....  AND A CRANE!?

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14:47 <Cepheid> Huh.

14:47 <Cepheid> Apparently someone's going around NYC's subway system, pulling emergency brakes among other things.

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15:15 <Vulpor> Hey everyone

15:16 <Vulpor> Just a small reminder you are all good people and hope your day is going well

15:24 <ArchPegasusMichael> Same to you, Vulp :)

15:24 <ArchPegasusMichael> *hugs*

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15:27 <Vulpor> God dang do I miss the 90's

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15:48 <Cepheid> I am incredibly sore.

15:57 <Cepheid> I may be pushing myself too hard.  Pretty sure I spent about 10 hours coding, today.  With short breaks to move and eat.

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16:05 <Schism> Yeep.

16:06 <Schism> Okay, little more than just a netsplit there.  o.o

16:08 <Finwe> Miss DashedRainbows, Messrs Cepheid, Schism and Vulpor.

16:08 * Finwe doffs his hat.

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16:11 <Cepheid> Schism:  So yeah, Syaro SP is interesting.  Starts off like Syaro, only just really freakishly hard.

16:11 <Cepheid> She does a full cycle of attacks, and then things just change dramatically.

16:12 <Cepheid> Floor disappears underneath you, music changes to Sudden Death(Illusion Alius battle theme), and you land in a new arena, in which Syaro's apparent code-state is shown.  Then comes the hundreds of Maid spawns.

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16:24 <Schism> Oh yeah, I've seen the fight, just haven't played it.  Yeesh, it's... quite a thing.

16:25 <Cepheid> Heh.

16:26 <Cepheid> Guh.  I should probably stop coding.

16:26 <Cepheid> Progress today mostly involved loading sprite atlasses, and implementing a player entity controlled by user input.

16:27 <Cepheid> The way the system is designed, implementing firing, movement, bomb, and focus movement was easy.

16:27 <Cepheid> Gonna need to start making new art assets though, that red dot can only be used for so many things.

16:28 <Cepheid> Next up, code-wise, is probably some refactoring, followed by implementing several different collission detection methods.

16:28 <Cepheid> Circle-Circle, Point-Circle, Triangle-Line, Triangle-Circle, Triangle-Point, Line-Box, Box-Circle, Box-Box, etc.

16:29 <Cepheid> After that, maybe look into text rendering.

16:57 * Cepheid think thinks, while listening to RFN III. In particular, thinking about names for the main character, and another, central character to a story.

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16:59 <Schism> You know, I'm not sure anyone's ever done a video game about Chaucer's characters.

16:59 <Schism> (Mostly because if they followed along with the book, they'd all be NC-17 or worse.)

17:01 <Cepheid> This story is a bit different from the game idea I was writing that has a La-Mulana-style world and puzzle difficulty.  I blame Rabi-Ribi, but I've been thinking about a Metroidvania/Bullet Hell game as of late, and going back to one of my old story ideas.

17:02 <ADragonDreaming> Honeydew Targets

17:02 <Cepheid> Hmm?

17:02 <Schism> Of course, we have Outland as one possible source.

17:02 <ADragonDreaming> and Impromptu Exodus

17:02 <Schism> Or would, if I could play it without DX causing my box to overheat.

17:03 <Schism> Oh, character names.

17:04 <Schism> Hm.  How would one come up with such a setup without going into I Wanna Be the Guy territory?

17:06 <ADragonDreaming> By going into Battle Kid territory instead.

17:07 <Schism> Hmm, maybe.  Still a bit too far.

17:09 <Schism> For rooms, you'd want the player to get used to each enemy type in turn, providing them one at a time.  The UPRPRC home does a very good job of that in Rabi-Ribi, introducing the player to each sort in turn.

17:10 <Schism> Which /usually/ happens before the player encounters any of those enemy types otherwise.

17:11 <Schism> Simpler enemies can be introduced in unison, and... well.

17:11 <Cepheid> Off the top of my head, if I wanted to reference a certain work to allude to some detail of the character, but not make it obvious, it'd either have to be a conventional detail the character being alluded to is known for, or modification of said character's name, adding or removing syllables, or transliterating it to a foreign language and then transcribing the foreign spelling.

17:12 <Schism> This is, I believe, how it's usually done.  Expies, as they're put, are referenced without directly referring to them, which falls under fair use somehow.

17:12 <Cepheid> For names, directly using the name of the character alluded would probably be giving away too much.  Unless no other details about the character are utilized.

17:13 <Cepheid> At this point, I think the work I want to allude to is actually in public domain, now.

17:13 <Schism> Do recall that Rainbow Dash is in fact Firefly, just with a different name.

17:15 <Schism> Cepheid: Just remember that jabberwock isn't exactly free-range, and regularly parades over fields of grass blades.

17:15 <Cepheid> Heh.

17:16 <Schism> Also, green spectacles are kind of tacky.

17:17 <Schism> Or was it rose-coloured glasses they used...?

17:22 <ADragonDreaming> Depends. Oz or Wonderland?

17:24 <Schism> No clue!  Though Frank L. Baum's Oz seems like a fine choice.

17:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Feelings & Messages Music: MC-Arch & RoomVR - Our Love Will Save Us All (feat. Namii) [Hip Hop] [ http://tinyurl.com/y6egtbr2 ]

17:25 <Schism> Poor Tip went through a lot, though.

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18:03 <Hunter_the_human> hello

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18:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #327 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3e266ll ]

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18:14 <LibrarianofHope_> Hoi

18:16 <LibrarianofHope_> Im having a lousy day

18:18 <LibrarianofHope_> Im in a national hospital waiting for news on my dads surgery.

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18:42 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/naga_U_/status/1125785350163447810

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18:45 * Ali flops next to Cepheid and yawnsies

18:53 <Cepheid> Right bedtime for me.  Been awake for 15 hours.  Usually in bed by hour 12.

18:58 <Cepheid> Note to self.  Buy antihistamines.  Itchy itchy scratchy scratchy.  Not tasty though.

19:01 <Cepheid> Tomorrow, I'm gonna play some games instead of coding.  Put too much effort into it today.  Need a break.

19:01 <Ali> Go to bread already :P

19:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Story: Three and a Half Seconds [ http://tinyurl.com/y5ayvwyp ]

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19:11 * Ali squeaks

19:12 * DashedRainbows chews on a squeaky toy, it's no Ali but it'll do

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20:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Let's Review: Annual Comic 2014 [ http://tinyurl.com/y64nzvad ]

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20:11 * SilverLining should change name to SliverLining

20:14 * Princess-Luna jumpspoops! >:3

20:15 <SilverLining> Jumps-poops...? That sounds... a bit....

20:15 * SilverLining backs away

20:15 <Princess-Luna> xD Its a silly method of saying jumpspook or jumpscare.

20:22 <Schism> 2spoopy5me.

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20:28 <Schism> "There is no window so well-designed that a ray of sunlight cannot sneak in at precisely the angle intended to ruin your sleep."

20:29 <Schism> s/intended/necessary/

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21:00 <Schism> There is no such thing as 'too much saurkraut'.

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21:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2986 [ http://tinyurl.com/yysqpj6w ]

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21:16 <Schism> ... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7Euqb0VsAA3Ui1.jpg:large

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22:08 <Jackie> Hi

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22:11 <Reiko> Hey

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23:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: What is Your Favorite Pony Subverse? (I.E.: Fallout Equestria)  [ http://tinyurl.com/y47lvf8j ]

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23:05 <Jackie> My own subverse

23:08 <Lumindia> doot!

23:08 * Lumindia boops Jackie

23:08 * Jackie nuzzles hoof

23:10 <Jackie> Lumiiii

23:19 * Princess-Luna snuggles pones

23:20 * Jackie is a...um starts with S and ends with S

23:22 <Schism> Cepheid.  You need to follow this guy.  https://twitter.com/JuliusGoat

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23:55 <PinkieShy> I'm back :)

23:55 * PinkieShy hugs DashedRainbows

23:55 <PinkieShy> I fell to sleep off and on..

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