00:00 <Jackie> Not sure why people don't like the command line
00:00 <Jackie> Ubuntu has a dedicated wiki for installing software
00:01 <Jackie> apt install <package> [package] ...
00:01 <Jackie> And that's just it
00:01 <DashedRainbows> appimages are a nice backup if it's not in-repo
00:03 <Jackie> If you're really serious
00:03 <Jackie> Install by source
00:03 <Jackie> I can actually install by compiling just fine
00:04 <DashedRainbows> only if your pc is not sloow
00:04 <Jackie> And I'm kinda a bit cheating because I programm with C
00:04 <DashedRainbows> that excludes a lot af people
00:04 <Jackie> So I got pretty much used to open source development tools
00:05 <PinkieShy> Jackie don't they prefer you to use the snap now?
00:05 <Jackie> Instead of the proprietary tools needed
00:05 <Jackie> You don't have to use Snap
00:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Daniel Ingram's Live "I'll Fly" Acoustic Cover [ http://tinyurl.com/y3pmfy9u ]
00:05 <DashedRainbows> snaps are a bit bloaty
00:06 <Jackie> Package managers are still the king
00:06 <DashedRainbows> yup
00:06 <PinkieShy> Called my mom to let her know everything is fine so she wouldn't worry about my call she missed last night.. told her i called over being so upset last night i needed to speak with someone
00:06 <DashedRainbows> Ilove pkgbuilds for distributing my stuff
00:06 <Jackie> Snaps seem like they are only supported for Ubuntu
00:06 <PinkieShy> She had to ask me a few times "Who's this?" while we was on the phone with each other though.. O.o
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00:07 <Jackie> And Ubuntu flavored distributions
00:07 <Jackie> I used to operate a Lubuntu and a Ubuntu before eventually going to bare-metal Arch
00:08 <Jackie> And yes
00:08 <Jackie> I use Linux on a real machine :P
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00:09 * PinkieShy screams
00:09 <PinkieShy> https://twitter.com/ExquisiteGamin3/status/1134855431959011329/photo/1 :D
00:09 <PinkieShy> Banjo Kazooie might get announced at E3.. O.o
00:09 <Jackie> It's a poorly treated game
00:10 <PinkieShy> Hopefully if that's not fake news that it won't be ya know.. a Banjo Kazooie battle royale.. :/
00:12 * DashedRainbows hats on PinkieShy
00:13 <PinkieShy> What if its like that company did to spyro.. :3
00:13 <PinkieShy> But microsoft does it with Banjo Kazooie.. Heck i'd buy it again :D
00:14 <DashedRainbows> if only microsoft was as good with sw as with hw
00:16 * PinkieShy goes to play sims 4.
00:16 <DashedRainbows> and yes Iown a microsoft kb, mouse, and a surface pro
00:16 <PinkieShy> hmm..
00:17 <PinkieShy> apartment in city.. or house.. hmm..
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00:25 <Ali> PinkieShy, or worse another nuts and bolts
00:25 <Ali> And it better be all platforms cause Rare will crap it up if they make it Xbone only
00:28 <PinkieShy> Who knows..
00:28 <Jackie> #BanjoForPCPlz
00:28 <Ali> Welp, my dog isn't here...this is worrysome
00:28 <PinkieShy> Maybe Microsoft will make whatever the new banjo kazooie will be if one and not fake news ya know.. It'll be for xbox and PC..
00:30 <Jackie> I'm not really a console gamer because: Multiplayer is expensive
00:33 <Ali> I own a switch but I don't have their online package
00:33 <Ali> I can't afford that when I have limited imcome
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00:50 <Jackie> Opinion: Why are Discord people saltier
00:53 <Schism> Fewer mods.
00:56 <Jackie> I mean decent people like this one are fine
00:57 * DashedRainbows sighs
00:58 <Jackie> I'm just tired of using Discord anyway
00:59 <Jackie> Maybe I should leave 98% of servers
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01:33 <Ali> I think I agree with Schism, people don't mod much in Discord servers it seems
01:39 <DashedRainbows> Not in my server thing
01:40 <DashedRainbows> I'm not as good as Ali but I try
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02:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1821 [ http://tinyurl.com/y487d9r5 ]
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02:28 <DashedRainbows> Poni
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02:40 <Jackie> Eee
02:40 * DashedRainbows curl up beside Jackie
02:40 * Jackie purrs
02:41 * DashedRainbows whinnies
02:41 * Jackie nuzzles
02:42 * DashedRainbows wags her tail
02:49 * Jackie scratches ear gently
02:49 * DashedRainbows rolls over
02:51 * Jackie rubs her belly
02:52 * DashedRainbows kicks her hind hooves a bit
02:55 * Jackie kisses snout
02:56 <DashedRainbows> yay!
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03:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: "MLP Is Still Bringing Us Together" Music: Koron Korak - Smile It's Just a Goodbye [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/y2nb5up9 ]
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03:14 * DashedRainbows barks and licks
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04:14 <Reia_Hope> Oh noes!
04:14 * Ali finds this to be an achievement, considering how heavy Reia_Hope is.
04:15 * Jackie pets cow
04:15 <Reia_Hope> Yay~ Pets!
04:24 * DashedRainbows giggles at the sight
04:25 * DashedRainbows boops Ali's horn repeatedly
04:26 *** Jackie is now known as Kanna_Kamui
04:26 <Kanna_Kamui> Ame ame ame
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04:40 <DashedRainbows> Lol
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04:46 <Kanna_Kamui> !link https://youtu.be/z4Nc5I0YoMQ
04:46 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
04:46 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Tom vs Jerry Vs Spike for 10 Hours
04:46 <Kanna_Kamui> Discord community in a nutshell
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05:21 <Schism> "Wait, wait. I get a number?" "Provisional--" "Guys! I GOT a NUMBER!" "It's not, you don't--" "They thought me enough of a thread to humanity that I got my own damn number!" "You--" "Let's prove 'em wrong."
05:24 * Ali sits on Schism
05:26 * DashedRainbows brushies Ali
05:26 * Ali squeaks
05:27 * DashedRainbows plays with her squeaky toy
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06:06 <Schism> "No. Not this time. I've got you pinned down in your own dreamscape, and this time you get to listen to me when I tell you YOU'RE AN IDIOT. You don't just claim that things aren't your fault, you go for the grand-daddy of all the stupidest bad-news-handling mechanisms ever devised by a thinking being and IGNORE IT!"
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06:06 * Schism boops FillyDashed. Is publicizing an argument with his own mindset. ._.
06:07 <FillyDashed> I see
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06:08 <Schism> My inner self is a little bit annoyed by the all the repression.
06:08 <Schism> And she's... yeah.
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06:15 * Filly_Nightmares flap flappies at FillyDashed!
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06:25 * Filly_Nightmares nomfs Kanna_Kamui and bounces
06:25 * Schism puts a Darwin's bark spider on Kanna's head.
06:27 <Schism> It's one of the crunchiest spiders. o3o https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin%27s_bark_spider
06:27 <Schism> And suitable food for a dragon seeking dangerous prey.
06:28 <Schism> Plus, they eat dragon-flies. o3o
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06:35 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
06:36 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
06:36 * Schism doffs his potato bread with bean soup.
06:36 * DashedRainbows|filly hats on Finwe
06:36 <Finwe> Messrs Schism and Kanna_Kamui, Mlles Ali and DashedRainbows|filly.
06:36 * Finwe doffs his hat.
06:36 <Schism> So, Finwe, how do you placate those voices in your head?
06:37 * Ali flops over Finwe
06:37 <Schism> Just those characters, I mean, of course. The other voices in my head are always unique.
06:38 * DashedRainbows|filly also hats on Ali
06:38 * Filly_Nightmares sneezies at Schism
06:38 * Schism provides a tissue and a pill and a wrap in warm blankies.
06:43 <Schism> Welll. Snapai's doing well. o3o https://twitter.com/Snapai/status/1136153502907084800
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06:44 * DashedRainbows|filly curls up in the corner to sleep
06:45 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
06:46 <Ali> Too bad they left here like a lot of people have.
06:48 * DashedRainbows|filly sighs
06:49 <Finwe> !seen Snapai
06:49 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw Snapai was 2018-10-09 18:17:32 UTC
06:49 <Finwe> !seen ZeroParadox
06:49 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw ZeroParadox was 2018-08-10 01:46:49 UTC
06:49 <Finwe> !seen Mash
06:49 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw Mash was 2014-05-22 11:17:35 UTC
06:49 <Finwe> !seen NoPony-Special
06:49 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw NoPony-Special was 2018-06-07 21:21:37 UTC
06:49 <Finwe> !seen QuothTheRaven
06:49 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw QuothTheRaven was 2012-10-30 17:45:23 UTC
06:50 <Ali> !seen straight
06:50 <DerpyBot> Ali: The last time I saw....will you cut that out already?!
06:50 * Finwe boops Ali.
06:50 <Ali> :3
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06:57 <Kanna_Kamui> I miss Pi
07:02 <Finwe> !seen Pi
07:02 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw Pi was 2019-05-09 16:17:10 UTC
07:02 <Finwe> He's been here not that long ago.
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07:08 <Schism> Hey, Jackie/ Kanna_Kamui -- here, have a cute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nlSDxvt6JU
07:10 <Kanna_Kamui> I wish there's voices
07:12 <Kanna_Kamui> Schism: is an episode being planned?
07:13 <Schism> Of Snail's House? Dunno. Probably not. o3o;
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07:19 <Kanna_Kamui> Cells at Work
07:21 <Schism> Also an adorable anime. o3o;
07:21 <RazorSharpFang> Surprisingly violent with a lot of blood.
07:22 * Ali flops over RazorSharpFang
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07:23 <Schism> Well. I should think a lot of blood.
07:23 <Kanna_Kamui> !link https://youtu.be/X3kHOoqZAPY not really violent but there is a bit of blood
07:23 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
07:23 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Platelets Making A Scab ☺ - Hataraku Saibou [1080p]
07:23 * uni flops
07:24 <Finwe> Mr uni.
07:24 * Finwe doffs his hat.
07:24 <Schism> I mean, the protagonist is a red blood cell, the deuteragonist is a white blood cell, and the platelets are adorable. o3o; There's a lot of blood there.
07:24 <RazorSharpFang> I mean, does the white blood cell shoving a knife into a pathogen count of violence? UwU
07:24 <uni> salutations, RAdm. Finwe
07:24 * uni hats on uni
07:24 <uni> it's been some time
07:25 <uni> and oooh are we talking about anime now?
07:26 <Schism> uni: An anime about blood cells.
07:26 <Kanna_Kamui> I don't really mind this anime getting a dub
07:27 <uni> mmh I've heard of that
07:27 <uni> it looks fun
07:27 <Kanna_Kamui> !link https://youtu.be/tjuN5Bn-RCo
07:27 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
07:27 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Gatchaman - Opening
07:27 <Kanna_Kamui> If you wanna go far
07:28 <Kanna_Kamui> This is Gatchaman
07:28 <Kanna_Kamui> A 1972 anime
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07:39 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:44 <Kanna_Kamui> Why is Gatchaman so underrated?
07:48 <Schism> Likely for the same reason as Mazinger Z -- by being one of the earlier examples of a genre, it made all the worst mistakes just as it made many of the best choices.
07:54 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and lays on Butter uni
07:54 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Schism tummy
07:54 * uni squeaks!
07:54 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up!
07:58 <Finwe> Miss Filly_Nightmares.
07:58 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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08:12 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
08:12 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
08:12 <Finwe> o7
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08:20 * Finwe flailyhooves at Filly_Nightmares! D:
08:20 * Filly_Nightmares eees and nomfs Finwe nosie!
08:21 * Finwe scrunchymuzzles!
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09:52 <ConfusionRift> Oh, a mounted gun. That would be a trap. And the trigger should be somewhere. Hmmmm... I wonder if- (notices the wire just above his boot) Okay, that's a bit too close.
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11:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1591 [ http://tinyurl.com/y46r8ctj ]
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11:08 <Finwe> o3o
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11:38 <Schism> "No, not possible. Your emotions have been yanked apart and split up! You should be mad! You should be insane! You should be comatose!" "And you'd normally be correct, but you forgot that I'm a changeling. We've got a hive mind thing going on. I can feel them, they can feel me. You've just given us a few more bodies to work with."
11:39 <Schism> ("Besides, we're usually of several minds about everything anyway." "Shhh!")
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13:43 <Schism> Today's brunch: Corn muffins, with butter and honey and three kinds of jam. o3o
13:57 <Finwe> o3o
13:57 <Finwe> Today's lunch: cheese salad with crisp bread.
13:58 <Finwe> And too much insulin. I fainted.
14:25 <DashedRainbows|filly> Morning, small horses
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14:51 <Ali> A netsplit? What is this?
14:55 <LibrarianofHope> the netpocalypse
14:55 <LibrarianofHope> derpybot ran away again
14:55 <Ali> The booksplosion
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14:56 * LibrarianofHope booksplodes
14:56 <LibrarianofHope> why do netsplits happen?
14:56 * Ali sits Colgate on LibrarianofHope for that answer
14:57 <Schism> Basically, a netsplit is when two IRC servers can't see one another, due to the internet being the internet. Because an IRC server is more like a loose collective of multiple servers, this results in folks briefly being unable to see one another. In this case, the Discord server and the Derpy server disconnected from one another.
14:58 <LibrarianofHope> ahh
14:58 <LibrarianofHope> so they moved us?
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15:23 <Schism> Hm. When a bird starts giving players free stuff... yeah, I'm moving that bird into a wall.
15:24 * Ali boops Schism nosie
15:42 * DashedRainbows|filly reads LibrarianofHope
15:46 * LibrarianofHope gives mangoes
15:46 <DashedRainbows|filly> yum!
16:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Concept Music: Mane In Green - Rituals And Dances Of The Pegasi (feat. Koron Korak) [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/y3gldauc ]
16:19 * DashedRainbows|filly licks everypony
16:22 * Cepheid flops in.
16:22 * DashedRainbows|filly waves
16:25 * Ali snuggles on the Cepheid
16:25 <Cepheid> How goes it?
16:25 <Ali> It goes, though I might think the AC is busted or mucking up
16:25 <Ali> Its supped to be A PERFECT 72 DEGREES *shot*
16:27 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:27 <Cepheid> I am sore and exhausted.
16:28 <Ali> Work does that to ponies
16:29 <Cepheid> Especially when said work has you bending, kneeling, and occasionally getting jabbed with sharp objects.
16:30 <DashedRainbows|filly> so, work :P
16:33 <Cepheid> Proper work for me would be software development. :P
16:33 <DashedRainbows|filly> and for me hence why I'm gonna return to school
16:35 * Lumindia pats Ali lots
16:35 * Ali has trouble working so she doesn't.
16:36 <Cepheid> I'll be continuing school, myself. There was a period where I decided to drop out, but after having passed all my courses last semester(Even if my grades weren't the best. D in Discrete, C- in HCI, A- in Japanese), I'm going to see it through to the end.
16:36 <Cepheid> If anyone wants to ask about my grades, I'll show them my portfolio.
16:36 <DashedRainbows|filly> I think I can handle a part time, you can't work much on disability anyway
16:37 <Cepheid> My parents actually insisted I do part-time.
16:37 <DashedRainbows|filly> that sounds good
16:39 <Cepheid> On top of that they are refusing to accept any money for rent, etc. So..
16:39 <Cepheid> All the money I earn is going towards computer upgrades and a new laptop.
16:39 <Cepheid> Especially since... well, give me a moment.
16:40 <DashedRainbows|filly> I already know what my first check is going for
16:40 <Ali> I tried even part time. Even then the Disability people came after me.
16:41 <DashedRainbows|filly> ugh
16:41 <DashedRainbows|filly> they be annoying
16:41 <Cepheid> I'm not sure if Disability would come after me up here.
16:41 <DashedRainbows|filly> maybe 10 hr/week
16:41 <Cepheid> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8T9xQnUIAA9xyo.jpg:large Anyways, this is part of why I need a new laptop.
16:42 <DashedRainbows|filly> I do have a bit from ssi, but it feels wrong to squander it
16:43 <Cepheid> The problem is that, ASUS, in their infinite wisdom, used plastics instead of something a bit sturdier to attach the hinges to.
16:43 <Cepheid> And the plastics detached themselves from the screen in one section.
16:43 <Cepheid> Each time I open the screen, the plastics flex a bit more, and more gets detached.
16:44 <Cepheid> Sooner or later, it's gonna snap.
16:44 <DashedRainbows|filly> must be an old design :O
16:44 <DashedRainbows|filly> afaik they use metal these days
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16:46 <Cepheid> Hum.
16:46 <Cepheid> Doesn't look like I can get disability.
16:46 <DashedRainbows|filly> speaking of asus, their new phone looks sexy
16:47 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony: Turnabout Storm Returns with Elements of Justice - Turnabout Theatre - Airing NOW! [ http://tinyurl.com/y68b4j6j ]
16:47 <Cepheid> According to Canada Disability information, my mental impairment is not enough for disability, because it does not impair me sufficiently for their requirements.
16:48 <DashedRainbows|filly> I could rpobably get it for my anxiety but no need :'(
16:49 <Cepheid> The problem with me is that medication alleviates a majority of the symptoms.
16:49 <DashedRainbows|filly> like I can hardly talk to strangers even on medication
16:49 <Cepheid> So as a result, I can function. I can work part-time, full-time(If it's a job I'm willing to do, like programming), and I can attend school with no issues.
16:49 <Cepheid> However, without medication, I can't function.
16:49 <Cepheid> But, since I can function on medication, I'm not eligible.
16:50 <Ali> Mine suffers from late discovery
16:50 <Cepheid> Mine too, sort of.
16:50 <Ali> Autism is supposed to be found at a young age
16:50 <Cepheid> It's just that medication is so effective in dealing with it, that it's moot.
16:50 <Ali> Mine was discovered till midway thru high school
16:50 <Schism> Glgrhg. When you nick yourself shaving, /right/ on the vein...
16:50 * Ali shudders
16:50 <DashedRainbows|filly> oof
16:50 <Cepheid> In any case, I'm not sure I can, or should, rely on disability right now.
16:50 * Schism bleeds... well, not /profusely/, but enough.
16:50 <Cepheid> With the Ford government planning cuts in pretty much everywhere involving vulnerable folks.
16:51 <Ali> If you can function without it you'd be better off
16:51 <Ali> Cause they will NOT let you have money at least in the US version
16:51 <DashedRainbows|filly> it's a pita
16:51 <DashedRainbows|filly> tbh any public service is
16:51 <Ali> Yes I get paid to sit on my ass, but I don't like it. But if I go to work again, I get the same amout I get now, with 400% more stress.
16:52 <DashedRainbows|filly> I'd need a special wheelchair but the hoops there are make it not worth it
16:52 <Cepheid> My observation is that in the US, all such social services are trouble because the organizations work as if they were extremely strict employers.
16:52 <DashedRainbows|filly> I'd rather hit the gym and strenghten my arms
16:53 <Ali> Or blunder things for 3-5 years and blame you for it all
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16:53 <Cepheid> The only reason I'm even considering it is because my mother says I should.
16:54 <DashedRainbows|filly> I need it to move around at college so there is a valid reason but meh
16:54 <Ali> Well mine was several fold
16:54 <DashedRainbows|filly> I could use this chair if I was stronger
16:54 <Ali> Once I did get confirmed for autism, guess how long it was going to be before I could get support services.
16:55 <DashedRainbows|filly> I've been disabled sinnce 14, I didn't get ssi til 19
16:55 <Ali> DashedRainbows|filly, Mine wasn't found till 16, didn't start getting it till 26
16:55 <DashedRainbows|filly> wow
16:56 <DashedRainbows|filly> yeah it's bad
16:56 <Ali> Yep, 10 year wait period on the autism waiver
16:56 <Ali> By that time, I'm so far behind in acceptable social behavior that its super hard to fix.
16:56 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, it seems that support services and support in general for mental health is still a rocky, spike-filled uphill climb.
16:57 <DashedRainbows|filly> for everything man
16:57 <Cepheid> Partly because it's comprised of invisible conditions, and partly because some people abuse the system.
16:57 <Ali> Pretty much
16:57 <DashedRainbows|filly> I know people with cp same story
16:58 <Ali> What sucks is they tried to weed a disabled person out
16:58 <Ali> I know a few times they wanted to axe my SSDI over stupid little things
16:58 <Ali> Like the ONE TIME I went ONE PENNY over the account limit
16:58 <DashedRainbows|filly> then they sent me two packets to show I'm disabled
16:59 <Ali> I have to keep all files on that cause SSA loves to try and cut me off
16:59 <DashedRainbows|filly> I'm like yay yes I have brain damage
16:59 <Ali> And they'll be like CAN YOU WORK?
16:59 <Ali> If yes then you're not disabled
16:59 <DashedRainbows|filly> that's why I spend to never go over
17:00 <DashedRainbows|filly> forced spending
17:00 <Ali> I hate forced spending
17:00 <DashedRainbows|filly> afaik you can do part time but maybe not so for autism
17:00 <Ali> Though I'm not making enough right now to have severe issues with that. I'm a bit on the walking the fine line of paycheck to paycheck
17:00 <Ali> You 'can' work
17:01 * Cepheid should do a bit of coding.
17:01 <DashedRainbows|filly> but the amount is ludicrously low
17:01 <Ali> But with the limited hours you're allowed, its not worth it
17:01 <DashedRainbows|filly> yup
17:01 * Ali thinks Cepheid should work on Factorio~ *shot*
17:01 <Ali> Another thing is their stupid 'limited' cap thing
17:01 <Ali> Where you can work so many months a go over the limit
17:02 <Ali> But then the conveniently forget to tell you that its expired
17:02 <Ali> And then try to garnish all your money....
17:02 <DashedRainbows|filly> as part of my forced spending I got a surface pro and soon a new phone
17:03 <DashedRainbows|filly> they are helpful but omg
17:03 <Ali> There's things I'd want to do, but can't.
17:03 <Ali> My PC is pretty much Vista quality right now
17:04 <Ali> Hell I think my motherboard IS from my vista one
17:05 <DashedRainbows|filly> I can't live alone and hence live at home so pretty much no bills
17:05 <DashedRainbows|filly> I do pay some things
17:05 <DashedRainbows|filly> I also know I need to move but then I'll be poor
17:07 <DashedRainbows|filly> My parents acceptance only goes so far
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17:07 <PinkieShy> woooo!!!! :D
17:08 <PinkieShy> Logitech is bloody amazing!!!
17:08 * DashedRainbows|filly licks PinkieShy
17:08 <PinkieShy> I just got off the phone with them.. followed their steps of warranty claim taking pics and shipping address.
17:08 <PinkieShy> The g430 headset i don't have to send them..
17:08 <PinkieShy> They are trusting me when i say its broke so in 7 days i am getting a new one.
17:08 * Cepheid sighs. It appears OpenTK does not handle DPI scaling, it appears.
17:08 <PinkieShy> They are sending me a new one straight from them :)
17:09 <DashedRainbows|filly> nother does gtk I think
17:09 <DashedRainbows|filly> at least not inkscape
17:10 * PinkieShy hugs DashedRainbows and does the happy dance
17:11 <Cepheid> Yeah, GTK doesn't like it under Windows.
17:11 * DashedRainbows|filly does the pony with PinkieShy
17:11 <PinkieShy> Now if only things go my way with that ibuypower... I heard reviews where they refused to give the full refund.
17:11 <DashedRainbows|filly> bleh
17:11 <PinkieShy> But that is pure luck with logitech :)
17:11 <PinkieShy> Nice company.. Glad i trust their products.. Seriously.
17:12 <PinkieShy> I got a logitech keyboard in another room, a 10yr old logitech mouse, headset, speakers
17:12 <DashedRainbows|filly> I hear Microsoft is much better at hw and so far it seems so
17:12 <PinkieShy> the mouse though hasn't been used in years.. Its just collecting dust XD
17:13 <DashedRainbows|filly> I mean compared to their sw
17:14 <PinkieShy> hmm
17:15 <PinkieShy> Maybe i'll get a logitech keyboard and mouse set since this cyberpower keyboard and mouse are.. filthy
17:15 <DashedRainbows|filly> depends how filthy
17:16 <PinkieShy> well..
17:16 <PinkieShy> Dust is caked on all the keys..
17:16 <PinkieShy> In order to clean i would need to pop off every key..
17:16 <DashedRainbows|filly> you can clean it, but it's a pain yeah
17:16 <DashedRainbows|filly> the mouse tho
17:17 <PinkieShy> Plus this keyboard is only rated at like 10,000 keystrokes.. Idk i am that close but.. using it since 2017.. maybe?
17:17 <DashedRainbows|filly> if you game or write probably
17:18 <Cepheid> Rendering's fine on Windows, but input is broken, bah.
17:18 <PinkieShy> me love gaming :P
17:19 <DashedRainbows|filly> ik so that kb has some use
17:19 <PinkieShy> Its the ansi layout.
17:19 <DashedRainbows|filly> still, oem periheperal are meh
17:20 <PinkieShy> when i get logitech.. I'll get mechinical not membrane.
17:20 <DashedRainbows|filly> I used gateway ones for a while meh
17:20 <Cepheid> ...
17:20 <Cepheid> Apparently OpenTK does not recognize my keyboard being connected when I use Keyboard.GetState()
17:21 <DashedRainbows|filly> then I bought a microsoft kb then a mouse
17:21 <DashedRainbows|filly> but only cuz they were the cheapes ergonomic models
17:22 <DashedRainbows|filly> they've held up surprisingly
17:23 <DashedRainbows|filly> on my surface (one usb) I use a bt mouse, so much nicer than the trackpad
17:33 <Cepheid> Ugh. Annoying. For whatever reason, keyboard state isn't being set using OpenTK on Windows.
17:37 <PinkieShy> ...
17:38 <PinkieShy> Banjo Kazooie.. the bull's name was big butt..
17:39 <DashedRainbows|filly> time for conditionals
17:41 <Cepheid> DashedRainbows|filly: Screw that, just gonna write my own keyboard state tracker, using what's available in OpenTK.
17:41 <DashedRainbows|filly> ok...
17:41 <Cepheid> See, while I can't get the keyboard state, keypress/keyrelease still works for some reason.
17:41 <DashedRainbows|filly> that's, huh
17:43 <Cepheid> Hum, let's see why, actually.
17:44 <Cepheid> Hum, according to the source, it should be working.
17:46 <LibrarianofHope> had a headache after breakfast
17:46 <Cepheid> I wonder.
17:46 * LibrarianofHope wonders with cepheid
17:46 <LibrarianofHope> so much wonder
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18:16 <LibrarianofHope> lunaaaaa
18:17 <LibrarianofHope> i want teaaaaa
18:17 <LibrarianofHope> gimme teaaaa
18:17 * Princess-Luna Gives coffee! =D
18:17 * LibrarianofHope drinks and shakes like maraca
18:18 <LibrarianofHope> dumb question, but is the uk tea cliche anywhere near real?
18:18 <Princess-Luna> No. xD
18:18 <LibrarianofHope> yay
18:18 <Princess-Luna> Like, it's very much more coffee these days
18:18 <LibrarianofHope> not much for coffe, i get jittery
18:19 <LibrarianofHope> what cliches does the uk have for mexicans ? i got curios
18:19 * Cepheid should make a coffee.
18:20 <LibrarianofHope> most of the world likes us
18:22 <DashedRainbows> LibrarianofHope, how bad is the city these days?
18:22 <DashedRainbows> I'm goinn in july
18:23 <LibrarianofHope> depends
18:24 <LibrarianofHope> pollution is improving, everything else is fairly usual
18:24 <DashedRainbows> I dread going into the city itself
18:25 <DashedRainbows> idk why exactly
18:25 <DashedRainbows> maybe the traffic
18:25 <DashedRainbows> or heat
18:25 <LibrarianofHope> you get used to the traffic
18:25 <LibrarianofHope> and you live in a hotter place
18:26 <DashedRainbows> exactly I don't want to go so far for heat
18:26 <LibrarianofHope> why you coming anyway?
18:26 <DashedRainbows> also traffic on I635 is horrible never got used to it
18:27 <DashedRainbows> I have a house out there in El Saltillo outside the city
18:27 <LibrarianofHope> heck is that?
18:28 <DashedRainbows> about 30min outside the toll gate
18:28 <LibrarianofHope> thta still considered mexico city
18:29 <LibrarianofHope> now i get your concern
18:29 <DashedRainbows> then even farther
18:29 <DashedRainbows> it's in the middle of nowhere
18:29 <LibrarianofHope> vacation visit?
18:29 <DashedRainbows> sorta
18:29 <LibrarianofHope> i can reccomend some tacos, best ones i know
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18:30 <DashedRainbows> I doubt we'll go much around the city though
18:31 <DashedRainbows> just the airport, and two other places
18:32 <DashedRainbows> also lol @ traffic lights over there
18:36 <Cepheid> LibrarianofHope: Mexican stereotypes in Canada basically just consist of TexMex foodstuffs being associated with Mexicans. Mostly. There are the unfortunate individuals who see them similarly to the unfortunate folks of the US.
18:37 <LibrarianofHope> so nacho bois?
18:37 <LibrarianofHope> nacho nacho men
18:37 <Cepheid> Otherwise, about the only other thing I know of is the general caricature of a Mexican. Wide-rimmed hat, wildly-coloured poncho, maracas, with a moustache. At least, that's the usual "cartoon" depiction.
18:37 <Cepheid> More or less.
18:37 <LibrarianofHope> why maracas, maracas are from somewhere else
18:37 <LibrarianofHope> i always wondered that
18:37 <Cepheid> I have no idea.
18:39 <Ali> Probably have to blame Loony Tunes or something I guess
18:39 <LibrarianofHope> speedy gonzalez?
18:39 <Ali> Or they associate it from Spain and think that since same language, must be Mexican
18:39 <LibrarianofHope> nuuu we love speedy
18:39 <Ali> The fastest mouse in all mexico
18:39 <LibrarianofHope> second one
18:39 <Ali> Then Slowpoke Rodreguz
18:39 <Ali> Pardon my crappy spellings if its an issue
18:40 <LibrarianofHope> nope , this is an issue
18:40 * LibrarianofHope gives ali a magazine
18:40 <LibrarianofHope> issue 1, mint condition owo
18:40 * Ali baps LibrarianofHope with it
18:40 <LibrarianofHope> worth it
18:42 <Cepheid> So, my dad's asleep on the couch, taking a nap.
18:42 <Cepheid> Which is all fine and dandy.
18:42 <Cepheid> But what makes it adorable is that Tizzy is stretched out in front of him, snuggling up to him
18:42 <Ali> Pft, is Spitfire still having the scareds?
18:43 <Cepheid> Every now and then.
18:43 <Cepheid> Loud noises make him jolt, but he's gotten better.
18:43 <LibrarianofHope> they have a catto in the vet next door, i never know how to interact with him
18:43 <LibrarianofHope> he seems firendly, but i dont know if i could do somethong to make him angry
18:44 <Ali> Let him sniff you first LibrarianofHope
18:45 <Ali> If they're asleep though, just leave them be
18:45 <Cepheid> Essentially, just be careful and calm. Don't make sudden movements or loud noises.
18:45 <Ali> They might not like being startled awake
18:45 <Cepheid> Otherwise, hold out your hand first, let 'em sniff, and if they nudge into your hand, it's okay to pet.
18:45 <Cepheid> And yeah, don't pet sleeping cats that don't know you.
18:45 <Cepheid> They may attack.
18:46 <LibrarianofHope> they also have a funny looking belgian shepherd
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18:55 <LibrarianofHope> had to go lock up my library
18:56 <LibrarianofHope> they hired a plumber to work on the houses bathrooms, but the guy has a teen aged assitant that i never seen before
18:56 <LibrarianofHope> soooo ill lock it uo with key, to be safe
18:57 <DashedRainbows> smart
19:00 <LibrarianofHope> lunch time owo
19:00 <LibrarianofHope> sse ya in a bit
19:01 <Cepheid> Later.
19:01 <DashedRainbows> glhf
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19:25 <Cepheid> Never seen a cat that likes to have his ears rubbed before.
19:26 <Cepheid> Still in shock over the price of the Apple Mac Pro and their display. Yeah, the display's 6k, etc, etc, etc..
19:26 <Cepheid> But seriously, $5000 for the display alone, and then another $1000 for the stand? What?
19:26 <Cepheid> I can get a 4k HDR display for like, less than 1/6th that.
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19:33 <Cepheid> Oookay that's just funky.
19:34 <Cepheid> When the KeyPress event occurs, the passed KeyEventArgs has a KeyboardState value that's populated, and if I check it's "IsConnected" property, it's true. Any attempt to read any other keyboard state fails.
19:35 * Cepheid tries querying every single index possible.
19:44 <Cepheid> According to everything I'm reading in the source, it should be working, but it's not, and I don't know why.
19:49 <Ali> Cepheid, welcome to Apple pricing
19:49 <Cepheid> That isn't Apple Pricing, that's just someone being unbelievably stupid.
19:49 <Ali> And it works
19:49 <Ali> Cause Apple has gotten away with it since their Iphones became exubrant
19:50 <Ali> Wasn't the Iphone X like $1k?
19:51 <Cepheid> Yes.
19:51 <DashedRainbows> tbh androids come close
19:51 <DashedRainbows> $800+
19:51 <Ali> That's casue they know idiots will pay over the top dollars for something it took them less than 100 to make
19:51 <DashedRainbows> well, flagships
19:51 <Cepheid> Even so, for $6000, I'd expect an 8k HDR display.
19:52 <Ali> For 6k I'd expect a 500T hardrive
19:52 <Ali> And cutting edge everything
19:52 <Ali> That would go out of style in three months
19:53 <Cepheid> Let's see what 6k can get me on Newegg, monitor-wise.
19:53 <Cepheid> Pretty much anything.
19:53 <Cepheid> Most expensive monitor in gaming monitors is a $2,199 display. Let's see..
19:54 <Cepheid> 4k, G-sync, 144Hz, HDR, 4ms response time.
19:54 * Cepheid picks 1ms, 240hz.
19:55 <Cepheid> 27" Acer is the most expensive with those specs. FullHD.
19:55 <Cepheid> 4k 1ms display..
19:55 <Cepheid> $700.
19:57 <Cepheid> Let's see what the specs are on that display..
19:59 <Cepheid> 31.6", 6K res(6016x3384), 1000 nits brightness, 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio, 10-bit color..
20:00 <Cepheid> https://www.newegg.ca/black-acer-xr2-series-xr382cqk-bmijqphuzx-37-5/p/N82E16824011171
20:01 <Cepheid> I'll be dead honest, at 31.6", that 6k res is not going to make a difference.
20:02 <Cepheid> At 40", and the distance I sit, at 4k, you're practically at Retina-display levels. Unless you got like, super-eyes, or sit extremely close to the display, you're probably not gonna notice any difference past 4k.
20:02 <Cepheid> The benefit of anything past 4k would be found more in larger displays. 8k for 80", for example.
20:03 <Cepheid> Also, good luck reading your UI at 4k or higher. Even at 40", my screen is unreadable. I have to use DPI scaling at 200% minimum.
20:05 <Cepheid> Anyhow, let's take a look at the specs for the PC, and figure out the actual cost.
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20:06 <Cepheid> Actually, those specs, some of them I can see being particularly expensive.
20:07 <Cepheid> But, what's the minimum specs of it?
20:11 <Cepheid> For CPU, min seems to be 8-core xeon. Looking through a list of all the xeon processors on sale now, the minimum price is 149.99, there are two expensive CPUs, 4097 and 3201 each, but if we exclude those, the maximum price is 900.00
20:13 <Cepheid> Average price of 481.76 CAD for the CPU.
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20:17 <Cepheid> ~691.65 for the motherboard.
20:19 <Cepheid> That said, there's something I don't believe.
20:19 <Cepheid> "There's six slots of ECC memory in six DIMM slots with up to 1.5 terabytes of system memory"
20:21 <Cepheid> See, the problem I have is that there's six slots, and the largest modules I can find are 64GB.
20:22 <Cepheid> Currently, that means a maximum of 6 * 64 = 384GB.
20:22 <Cepheid> Ah, it's six channels.
20:22 <Cepheid> And 12 slots.
20:22 <Cepheid> Still. That only brings it up to 768.
20:23 <Cepheid> Hum. Looks like 128GB modules exist now.
20:24 <Cepheid> Ah, yeah. They're rare though, and excessively expensive.
20:27 <Cepheid> Apparently Intel came out with a new tech that results in lower cost per DIMM, and it's non-volatile too.
20:27 <Cepheid> Intel's suggesting 128GB be ~577.
20:28 <Cepheid> One tech website did some comparisons. Comparable DRAM is a few thousand dollars. o3o
20:28 <Cepheid> That said, it's a tad slower.
20:29 <Cepheid> Overall, it's looking like the total cost of the components for a baseline Mac Pro is far less than the $6000 asking price.
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21:23 <Schism> It's probably a bad sign that I take such unmitigated joy in being passive-aggressive.
21:30 <Cepheid> .Oh?
21:32 <Schism> Explanation in PM.
21:37 * Cepheid goes to reorg his room just a- ... ... Oh hell with it he restores it to it's original configuration, sans desk movement.
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21:51 <Cepheid> Access to the PC is a bit restricted with this layout, but..
21:52 <Cepheid> It works better for me. I sleep better when my head is towards the wall with the whiteboard, and when I'm on the left-hand side.
21:52 <Cepheid> I don't know why.
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21:53 <Cepheid> Ye know, I should use some of the money I'll be earning to fix this problem with all the space in my room.
21:55 <Cepheid> I've been wanting to make the room more open. Can't do that with this queen-sized bed, though.
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21:57 <Schism> Cepheid: You know how the SCP Foundation trains you to recognize memetic agents and resist them?
21:57 <Cepheid> Yes?
21:57 <Schism> I'm sorry, but I must provide you with a new SCP. https://twitter.com/thetomzone/status/1136316615052709893
21:58 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:58 <Schism> I can't contain it on my own.
21:58 <Schism> Cepheid: Oh, did you ever read the antimemetic files?
21:59 <Cepheid> I have not.
21:59 <Schism> Got the time to read about 'em now?
22:00 <Schism> Naturally, Cepheid, you don't remember SCP-055.
22:00 <Cepheid> What's that?
22:00 <Schism> Well done. We don't have an SCP-055. We've never had an SCP-055.
22:01 * Schism offers Cepheid a cup of tea. Lemongrass. "But imagine if we always had an SCP-055."
22:01 <Cepheid> I dunno what Firefox is doing, but it's killing my PC.
22:01 * LibrarianofHope cannot be tampered mentally due to hopebringer pride spell
22:01 <Schism> You'd never remember it. But it could be anywhere. In a cup of tea, for example.
22:01 <LibrarianofHope> its a cup
22:01 <Cepheid> Oh, it's consuming 2GiB of memory.
22:02 <Schism> Hmm. Now, let's see. What might be consuming that much memory?
22:02 <LibrarianofHope> its a cup with delusions of grandeur
22:02 <LibrarianofHope> but youll forgwt in a minute so meh
22:02 <Cepheid> Schism: Firefox.
22:02 <Schism> It seems odd that Firefox would drink that much tea, though.
22:02 * Cepheid needs...
22:03 <Cepheid> A 73 inch futon minimum.
22:03 <Schism> There is no Antimemetics division, remember. o3o
22:03 <Cepheid> https://www.wayfair.ca/furniture/pdp/brayden-studio-swiger-sleeper-bray2783.html?piid=21188080 This looks nice.
22:03 <Schism> Or don't remember.
22:03 <LibrarianofHope> hecking foundation owes us a cup from the last inter organization poker tournament
22:04 <Schism> Cepheid: It's one of the best stories on the whole site, by the way. http://www.scp-wiki.net/we-need-to-talk-about-fifty-five
22:04 <Finwe> o3o
22:04 <LibrarianofHope> its scp 55, but they keep forgettin its there
22:04 <Finwe> Good evening, my equines of almost negligible dimensions.
22:04 <Schism> Finwe: Surely, you remember Agent J.
22:05 * LibrarianofHope polishes finwe
22:05 <Finwe> Messrs Cepheid, LibrarianofHope and Schism, Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows and Surreal_Nightmares.
22:05 * Finwe doffs his hat and shines.
22:05 * Ali doffs over Finwe
22:05 <Schism> Finwe: He often throws parties for the rest of the small equines. Jelly Smith, a fine stallion...
22:05 <Finwe> Schism: In MIB?
22:05 <LibrarianofHope> also, Ali ois O-4
22:05 <LibrarianofHope> is
22:06 <Schism> Finwe: Antimemetics is a fine set of stories. o3o http://www.scp-wiki.net/we-need-to-talk-about-fifty-five
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22:06 <Schism> As long as you remember them.
22:07 * Finwe noms on red radishes.
22:07 <LibrarianofHope> also, mind manipulation is easy if you know how
22:07 <LibrarianofHope> case in point
22:07 * LibrarianofHope smacks finwe with a salmon
22:08 <LibrarianofHope> you are now Jose, you are mexican
22:08 <Finwe> Go on, smack the pony.
22:08 <LibrarianofHope> (this is the part you say hola,m follow the script owo)
22:08 <Cepheid> Hum.
22:08 <Cepheid> Parents are offering to buy me a futon, which I pay back in installments.
22:09 <Finwe> I was trying to refer to the English tv series "Smack the Pony".
22:10 <Finwe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smack_the_Pony
22:11 <Schism> Cepheid: Also, read the next story. If you weren't paranoid enough, that is.
22:11 <LibrarianofHope> also dr bright owes me money, and many others i recon
22:12 <LibrarianofHope> i tried collecting, but they always want to contain me
22:12 * Finwe noms on LibrarianofHope's accounts receivable.
22:18 * Finwe hats on an Ali.
22:20 <LibrarianofHope> schism, would that bit be considered absurdism?
22:21 <LibrarianofHope> its n ot rolepaly proper, i never took it seriously
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