Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Thursday, 2019-06-20

00:01 <Cepheid> Heh.

00:02 <Cepheid> The NSA is looking to contribute to Coreboot.

00:03 <ADragonDreaming> and then Steam itself wants to restart to apply an update. harrumph.

00:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Radio Show "Brooke and Jubal" Hits Up a Brony Convention  [ http://tinyurl.com/y43clja4 ]

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00:28 <Ali> Schism,  E E E, its in the E

00:33 <uni> good morning everyone~

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00:38 * Ali randomly flops over uni

00:43 * uni eeps!

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00:58 * PinkieShy hugs Ali

00:58 * Ali squeaks and snugs into PinkieShy

00:58 <PinkieShy> I've been up since 4:30am lol

00:58 <PinkieShy> went to bed last night at 12:45..

00:58 <PinkieShy> 3 hour nap earlier.

00:58 <PinkieShy> Yet i am still going XD Amazing

00:58 <PinkieShy> Probably going to sleep very amazingly tonight though lol

00:59 <PinkieShy> Being so cold in the house is making me even more sleepy

01:02 * DashedRainbows sits on Ali. Giddy up time?

01:03 * Ali pulls DashedRainbows down and snuggles her instead.

01:04 * DashedRainbows is conflicted now

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01:07 * DashedRainbows offers her tail to Ali

01:07 * Ali yays and noms DashedRainbows tail

01:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Animatic - Into The Woods - Agony [ http://tinyurl.com/y3fkje3v ]

01:09 <Cyan_Spark> Hihi Ali

01:09 * Ali wavies

01:09 * Cyan_Spark waves hoof back ^^

01:10 <Cyan_Spark> Ali doing well? :’3

01:10 <Ali> If the threat for storms would just go away X.x

01:10 <Cyan_Spark> Where storm? :(

01:11 <Cyan_Spark> Tell pegasi to flap storm away!

01:12 <Ali> Its the constant threat of them, even though they don't seem to form.

01:12 <Cyan_Spark> Aww

01:12 <Ali> Looks like next line is about 2.5 hours out

01:15 * Ali flops over Cyan_Spark

01:15 * Cyan_Spark petpets Ali

01:17 * Lumindia curls up next to ASli for sleep

01:17 <Lumindia> Ali*

01:17 * Ali brushies the Lumindia

01:17 * Lumindia purrs loudly

01:17 <Lumindia> G'night miniature horses

01:20 * Cyan_Spark is a miniature horse c:

01:21 * Ali yawns at Cyan_Spark

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01:21 * Cyan_Spark nuzzles Ali gently?

01:22 * Ali squeaks at Cyan_Spark

01:22 <Cyan_Spark> uwu

01:22 <Ali> What?  I'm a squeaky pony

01:23 <Cyan_Spark> :’3

01:25 * DashedRainbows flops on Ali and sads

01:26 * Ali brushies the DashedRainbows to not be sad.

01:26 * Cyan_Spark shares some of his vanilla cookies with DashedRainbows

01:27 <DashedRainbows> I wish there was a way

01:27 <DashedRainbows> It seems like I default to sad

01:29 <PinkieShy> My chihuahua has to go to the vet :(

01:29 <PinkieShy> She has worms again.. :/

01:30 <PinkieShy> and we just got rid of them a year ago..

01:30 <Cyan_Spark> Oh no :(

01:30 <Cyan_Spark> Maybe... birds eat worms yes?

01:32 <PinkieShy> not these kind.. at least i hope not

01:33 <PinkieShy> last year they said she had tapeworm.

01:35 <Cyan_Spark> Oh no :c

01:38 <uni> oh hey Cyan_Spark!

01:38 * uni waves!

01:38 <Cyan_Spark> Hi unicodong!

01:38 <uni> heyo

01:38 <Cyan_Spark> Aaa I messed that up

01:38 <uni> how are you?

01:38 <Cyan_Spark> unicoding* yis :>

01:38 <uni> ooh didn't notice

01:38 <Cyan_Spark> I am horse!

01:39 <uni> hehe

01:39 <uni> I heard you're in New York

01:40 <Cyan_Spark> :O who told you

01:40 * Cyan_Spark shushes and pulls unicoding behind the couch

01:41 * uni eeps and flails!

01:41 <uni> I think you did!

01:42 <Cyan_Spark> Ohw ^^;

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01:44 <uni> studying there?

01:46 <Cyan_Spark> Nop, interning

01:52 <uni> oooh

01:53 <uni> which company?

01:59 <PinkieShy> ... XD

02:00 <PinkieShy> Some website article was titled "Club Penguin is the original Fortnite" XD

02:01 <Cyan_Spark> Seecret

02:02 <uni> aww...

02:02 * uni pouts

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02:03 <uni> aaaaah!

02:03 <uni> nooo!

02:03 <uni> I killed him!

02:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1835 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6ekmw92 ]

02:15 * DashedRainbows boops uni

02:33 * uni scrunchies

02:33 <uni> h-hey!

02:34 * DashedRainbows licks the uni instead

02:39 * uni squeaks

02:39 * DashedRainbows barks back

02:41 * PinkieShy hands DashedRainbows a hayburger with fries

02:41 <DashedRainbows> my appetite is dead right now

02:41 <PinkieShy> same for the time being at least :P

02:42 <uni> I just ate~

02:42 <DashedRainbows> I just tried to eat too

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02:42 <PinkieShy> I haven't ate lol

02:42 <PinkieShy> last meal today was.. breakfast at 9:30am

02:43 <DashedRainbows> same before I ate

02:43 <PinkieShy> But going to eat burgers when my dad gets home.. Just strangely not that hungry enough to eat..

02:43 <PinkieShy> I would have normally been veyr hungry by now lol

02:44 <DashedRainbows> same too

02:45 * DashedRainbows woke up an hour ago. yawns still

02:45 <DashedRainbows> this is with two naps today

02:46 <PinkieShy> Been up since 4:30am here and only 3hour nap earlier :P

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02:47 <PinkieShy> Which is having a toll on me XD

02:49 <DashedRainbows> 5:10am here cause I messed up

02:50 <uni> all you nightbirds

02:50 <DashedRainbows> I had a good reason

02:52 <DashedRainbows> hmm no anemia...

02:55 * DashedRainbows sniffs everypony

02:57 <uni> good reason?

02:57 <DashedRainbows> well, close. I thought I was due for post-transplant labs today

02:58 <DashedRainbows> turns out I misheard

03:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: S7 Finale Music: UndreamedPanic - The Pillars [Dubstep] [ http://tinyurl.com/y37oa4qv ]

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04:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Rock Festival "Neighhem Fest" Following BronyCon! [ http://tinyurl.com/y2f6cpgt ]

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04:10 * Ali pops Bubbles

04:10 * Bubbles implodes.

04:11 <Bubbles> Heya

04:11 * Ali wavies, wonders if same Bubbles from a long time ago?

04:11 <Bubbles> yep

04:11 <Ali> Sorry its not as active here now but you're more than welcome to stay

04:12 <Bubbles> Oh, no worries. I wasn't super expecting it to be

04:13 <uni> um hello Bubbles

04:13 <Bubbles> Hiya

04:17 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony: Spirit of the Forest #2 3 Page iTunes Preview  [ http://tinyurl.com/y5m4ands ]

04:34 * DashedRainbows licks the bubbles

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04:39 * Bubbles wiggles

04:45 * DashedRainbows curls up on Ali and sleeps. Night small horses

04:46 <Ali> Night DashedRainbows

05:06 <PinkieShy> Wooo!! :D

05:06 <PinkieShy> Only like what 3 more hours and I'd been up 24hrs >_>

05:06 <PinkieShy> I'm sleepy yet.. Watching Violet EverGarden having me tear up while watching it is making me wanna stay awake to see more and more and more XD

05:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1492 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4h6rgv4 ]

05:38 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!

05:39 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows and Surreal_Nightmares; Messrs Bubbles, PinkieShy, KooK, Schism and uni.

05:39 * Finwe doffs his hat.

05:39 * PinkieShy hugs Finwe

05:39 <Bubbles> Hello

05:39 * Finwe snuggles PinkieShy.

05:42 <KooK> Finnish

05:43 <PinkieShy> okay I'm done.. xD

05:43 <PinkieShy> Its almost 2am here.. I've been up 22hrs and not going to let it get to 23 or 24 mark.

05:43 <PinkieShy> good night!!! :)

05:43 <PinkieShy> here's to hope in which i get a great night rest that i surely need :)

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05:50 <Finwe> Hmm, the summer solstice is tomorrow. o3o

05:53 * Ali yawns at Finwe

05:54 * Finwe counter-yawns at Ali.

05:55 <Finwe> My mother thought that it was a good idea to call me at 8:30 in the morning.

05:55 <Finwe> I would've liked to sleep for at least one hour longer.

06:05 * uni flops on Finwe, is Pvt uni now!

06:07 <Ali> Plants vs techs?

06:07 * Ali nibbles uni just cause

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06:12 * uni squeaks!

06:12 <uni> Private!

06:14 <Finwe> Private is abbreviated Pte. o3o

06:15 <Finwe> Oh, except in 'Murrica, they Abbreviate it "Pvt.".

06:19 <Finwe> Well then, Pte uni, serve well and you can some day be promoted to Lance Corporal.

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06:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift

06:34 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

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06:35 <ConfusionRift> Actually, be back in a bit. Taking shower.

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06:42 * Filly_Nightmares wigglewaggles at uni!

06:42 * Filly_Nightmares hats on as floof helmet!

06:42 * Finwe ruffles Filly_Nightmares.

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07:05 * uni squeaks at Finwe

07:05 <uni> oops

07:05 <uni> Filly_Nightmares:

07:06 * Finwe counter-squeaks at uni, nevertheless.

07:13 * Filly_Nightmares giggles at uni and kneads him!

07:13 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up and ripples at Finwe!

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07:32 * ConfusionRift returns.

07:32 <ConfusionRift> I guess...

07:47 <ConfusionRift> Wait... wait... I can hear! Yes!!!

07:47 * uni flops on ConfusionRift

07:47 <uni> hear?

07:48 <ConfusionRift> Had an issue with hearing for some time. It's finally slowly recovering.

07:49 <uni> ooh nice

07:51 <ConfusionRift> So here was the thing. I woke up with the clearest I have heard in a long while. Did the usual treatment, and it all reverted. Wasn't exactly happy. I just now went back to clear hearing. It fells good.

07:52 <uni> mhmm

07:52 <uni> that's really good news

07:56 * ConfusionRift nods.

08:01 * ConfusionRift patpats uni's head. No real reason. :P

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08:11 * uni earflicks under headpats

08:11 <uni> yay

08:24 * DashedRainbows chews on ConfusionRift's hooves

08:26 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P

08:27 * Filly_Nightmares licks ConfusionRift!

08:28 * Filly_Nightmares eees happily and kneads Butter uni into DashedRainbows tummy!

08:28 * ConfusionRift also pets Filly_Nightmares. "So... much... petting..."

08:28 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and bounces under the pet!

08:29 <Filly_Nightmares> I bought a used compuper!

08:31 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah!

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08:39 <Jackie> Hi

08:41 <ConfusionRift> Hey there,

08:43 <Jackie> Is PinkieShy Hisha?

08:45 * ConfusionRift shrugs.

08:46 <Jackie> Is there a reason why HTML is still used today?

08:46 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

08:46 <Finwe> o7

08:47 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

08:47 <ConfusionRift> Eeerm... because it's a more universal standard format?

08:48 <Jackie> I mean alternatives existed (and failed)

08:50 <ConfusionRift> I honestly don't remember what happened to the others, and why is it they chose and still choose HTML.

08:52 <Jackie> I mean I like HTML

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08:55 <Finwe> There has never really been any alternative hypertext markup language other than HTML.

08:56 <Finwe> -alternative

08:57 <Jackie> I mean no one ever had a problem with HTML

08:57 <ConfusionRift> I believe there has, just not to the same degree of HTML, and because of their loss, they never adapted to what HTML can do nowadays.

08:58 <Jackie> Every company has more or less HTML

08:58 <Jackie> Idk HTML can be around for decades

09:00 <Finwe> ConfusionRift: I only find one proposition from 2015: https://discourse.wicg.io/t/a-proposed-new-language-as-an-alternative-to-html-css-and-javascript/1115

09:02 <Finwe> Moreover, the whole WWW uses HTML, meaning that it's not easy to change things.

09:02 <ConfusionRift> That was the other problem.

09:03 <Jackie> I like that the WWW being an open standard

09:03 <ConfusionRift> If everyone uses a format, the alternative will have to basically function the same way.

09:03 <Finwe> To publish something in another markup language, you would need support for that language in any browser used to read the content.

09:04 <Finwe> HTTP, on the other hoof, was preceded by a more rudimentary protocol, GOPHER, that only allowed interlinking text documents.

09:04 * Filly_Nightmares licks Finwe

09:05 * Finwe tastes of not having had breakfast.

09:05 * Filly_Nightmares bounces at ConfusionRift!

09:05 <Finwe> I should probably go for lunch at some point.

09:05 <Filly_Nightmares> I am use my new compuper for server!

09:05 <Finwe> Then again, I haven't taken my medication, so I can't get hungry.

09:06 * Jackie scratches Filly_Nightmares' head

09:06 <ConfusionRift> Finwe: I'm sure there were alternatives back before everyone adopted HTML. But yeah, because of the structuring using HTML, it's really hard to just switch to something else.

09:09 <Finwe> Then no doubt you can name at least one.

09:11 <Finwe> HTML was part of Sir Tim Berners-Lee's original work on WWW.

09:11 <ConfusionRift> Oh... never mind.

09:12 <ConfusionRift> It's like looking for an alternative to the shape of a car's tire rim.

09:13 <ConfusionRift> Most "alternatives" I see are mostly masks or recompilers that ultimately still end up releasing HTML files.

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09:14 <Jackie2> ConfusionRift, is AMP secretly HTML

09:15 <ConfusionRift> AMP?

09:16 *** Jackie2 is now known as Jackie

09:17 * Jackie belly rubs Filly_Nightmares

09:17 <Finwe> ConfusionRift: Accelerated Mobile Pages.

09:18 <ConfusionRift> "At its essence, it's basically a stripped-down form of HTML, a diet HTML if you will."

09:23 * Filly_Nightmares wigglewaggles at Jackie!

09:23 <Finwe> There are alternative markup languages, of course, like XML, MathML and LaTeX, but these are not really alternatives to HTLM.

09:24 * Schism yawwwns, awakening! And offers tea to pones.

09:25 * ConfusionRift is not big with teas, but will drinks some. He needs it.

09:25 <ConfusionRift> There are just other flavors or shells that use the same format.

09:26 <ConfusionRift> The closest to an alternative I see is HAML, but it's just a compiler that allows a more simpler syntax, but still returns as HTML.

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09:31 * Filly_Nightmares curls up on Jackie and uses Schism as a blanie!

09:31 * Filly_Nightmares uses Finwe as a plushie and ConfusionRift as a pillow!

09:31 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini!

09:31 <Filly_Nightmares> I wuv you!

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09:53 <ConfusionRift> "Die! Die, you coward! I shall destroy your very being and-" | (whips) | "Aaaaiiieeeee!!!"

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10:06 * Schism gets "Monty on the Run" stuck in his head.

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10:31 * uni flops back

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11:03 * Lumindia yawns, hugs Jackie

11:03 <Lumindia> Morning

11:03 * Jackie2 picks up uni

11:03 *** Jackie2 is now known as Jackie

11:03 * Lumindia also hugs Uni

11:04 * Jackie licks Lumindia

11:04 * Lumindia tastes like grapes

11:04 <Lumindia> o 3o

11:07 * Jackie pets

11:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1606 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4n776ec ]

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11:51 <Schism> Mmm.  Cheese and pickle sandwich.

11:58 * Finwe boops Schism with a bowl of tofu ramen.

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12:01 * Lumindia flops by Jackie

12:02 * Schism boops Lumindia with a big plate of poutine.

12:02 * Lumindia boops Schism with a fat black chocobo

12:02 <Lumindia> birb

12:02 <Schism> Indeed.  o3o;

12:03 <ConfusionRift> That a big boid.

12:03 <Jackie> There's so many kernel variation repos in kernel.org

12:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Calendar / Rainbow Arm / BoE 7:13 / AHNM 1:17 / Delta Vee 10 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5n5tetx ]

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12:16 <Finwe> Messrs KooK, Lumindia, Schism; Miss Jackie.

12:16 * Finwe doffs his hat.

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12:49 * DashedRainbows horses

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13:36 <DashedRainbows> poneh?

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13:46 * DashedRainbows licks da Bubbles

13:50 * uni squeaks at Lumindia

13:50 <uni> sorry, was playing FO3

13:50 <Koopz> crud

13:50 <Koopz> i need an obscure movie

13:50 <Koopz> in about 3 hours

13:51 <ADragonHoarding> Gidget goes to Rome

13:51 <Koopz> that looks like one of those old romance movies

13:52 <ADragonHoarding> Pretty much.

13:52 <ADragonHoarding> It's not good.

13:52 <ADragonHoarding> But it is obscure.

13:52 <Koopz> not my cup of tea o3o

13:52 <Koopz> i was thinking about something along the lines of Time Bandits

13:52 <Koopz> or the Labyrinth

13:52 <ADragonHoarding> Pan's Labyrinth?

13:52 <ADragonHoarding> less obscure, but.

13:53 <ADragonHoarding> Donnie Darko has become less and less obscure over the years as well.

13:54 <Koopz> that looks horrifying x_x

13:54 <ADragonHoarding> I am unfortunately not well-versed in obscure film.

13:56 <Schism> Obscure movies?  Well, not a lot of people have watched Jacob's Ladder, it seems.

13:56 <Koopz> hmmm Cepheid did you recommend me Time Bandits?

13:56 <Schism> Koopz: Oh, here's one that's probably not that obscure. Theater of Blood.

13:57 <ADragonHoarding> if he's looking at Donnie Darko and saying "that looks horrifying" I don't Jacob's Ladder is the right genre either.

13:57 <Schism> Probably not.  :S  Theater of Blood, though, is a horror comedy.

13:57 <ADragonHoarding> See, I haven't watched Jacob's Ladder, and that's because I know that it served as inspiration for elements of the Silent Hill games.

13:58 * Schism nods, "Indeed it did."

14:09 <ADragonHoarding> Ah. Apparently "The Borrowers" is an obscure movie.

14:09 <ADragonHoarding> I did not realize.

14:10 <ADragonHoarding> as is "Gattaca" ?

14:11 <ADragonHoarding> Now this does sound like an obscure movie: "Ghost Dog: The Way Of The Samurai"

14:12 <ADragonHoarding> and then here's a big list: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls000118226/

14:13 <ADragonHoarding> hm... wonder how obscure "Periscope Down" is?

14:14 <Schism> Since when is "All Quiet on the Western Front" obscure?

14:15 <ADragonHoarding> possibly since 18 year olds were born in 2001.

14:16 <ADragonHoarding> and classic movies from the 70's may not have the cultural penetration they once had among the 20-something crowd.

14:20 <Schism> Hmmm.  The Last Supper (1995) looks like a fun one.

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14:28 <Koopz> ...i think i may have used the wrong word

14:30 <Schism> Koopz: How about 'Zathura'?

14:30 <Schism> Everybody's seen Jumanji, nobody's seen that one.  o3o;

14:31 <Koopz> isn't that just a new interpretation of Jumanji on how it would be made in the 'current time'?

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14:32 <Schism> Not really, it's more a sci-fi variant.  You may be thinking of Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle.

14:33 <Schism> Zathura was from 2005.

14:33 <Koopz> oh

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14:34 <Schism> Hmm.  You mentioned Time Bandits, how about The Adventures of Baron Munchausen?

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14:36 <Koopz> (1988)?

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14:36 <Koopz> there's a lot of adaptions

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14:38 <Schism> Yah, the 1988 one.  By Terry Gilliam.

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14:44 <Koopz> i'll see if i can grab that one

14:54 * Schism grins at the movie. "It's quite good so far."

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14:56 <Schism> Truly, a Terry Gilliam production.

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15:41 <Cepheid> https://gfycat.com/snarlingpersonalangwantibo

15:55 <ADragonHoarding> the best part is that the guy whose racket didn't break played ball.

16:06 <Koopz> praise Amazon Prime, i don't need to get it \o/

16:06 <Schism> Oh, nice.  o3o  It's on that service too?

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16:23 <Cepheid> Well, the medicine helped a lot more than the antihistamine.

16:26 <ADragonHoarding> nice

16:26 <Cepheid> Still not perfect though, but for the time being until I can see my ENT, it'll suffice.  I'll advise him what I've tried and their effects to give him some guidance on possible choices for prescription drugs, if needed.

16:50 <Schism> *while climbing down a rope from the moon* "Here, splice the rope together with this!" "Where did you get that?" "I took it off the top."

16:54 <Cepheid> Heh.

16:54 <Cepheid> That raises an interesting question though.

16:54 <Cepheid> Which end is the "top"?  From the perspective of being on the moon, the top is the planet the moon orbits.  From the planet, the top is the moon.

16:55 <Schism> Cepheid: Oh, they cut the top part of the rope free, then used it to splice down some more on the bottom.

16:55 <Schism> While climbing down the rope.

16:56 <Cepheid> You missed the point of what I stated. :P

16:57 <Schism> Ah, true, true.

16:57 <Schism> Also they basically climbed up to the tip of the crescent moon first. <.<  

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16:58 <Cepheid> Guh.

16:59 <Cepheid> That coffee was horrid this morning.

16:59 <Cepheid> Felt like cold water would have been better.

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17:02 <LibrarianofHope> coffe makes me jittery

17:02 <LibrarianofHope> ever tried the deathwish brand?

17:05 <Cepheid> No.

17:05 <LibrarianofHope> i always wondered what it tastes like, and the effects

17:06 <Cepheid> 6 + 5 = 11 hours, -1 for lunch, that's 10 hours, - 15 minutes, that's 9 hours, 45 minutes.

17:06 <Cepheid> ... I've been shafted one hour of pay.

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17:08 <Cepheid> Maybe more.

17:09 <Cepheid> The Michaels jobs started at 6.  The first day ended at 3:00 PM.  That's 9 hours.  Subtracting 45 minutes, that's 8:15.  I'm being paid for 7.

17:09 <Cepheid> Also being shafted in regards to productivity reports.

17:10 <Cepheid> On Monday, I had to use two different databases, each with their own productivity quotas to meet.

17:10 <Cepheid> Problem is, one productivity quota assumes that I'd been workong on that particular database from the start.

17:10 <Cepheid> And they're only counting that one, in regards to bonuses.

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17:11 <Cepheid> I had been on another database because walmarts are split into two.  One for cards, which takes about half a day to do, and one for the rest of the store, which takes a full day.

17:14 <Cepheid> Overall though I'm not surprised, the system's rigged from the get-go.

17:14 <Schism> "Here's how to factory reset your lightbulbs." -GE

17:14 <Cepheid> It uses counts-per-hour, and the calculation is... broken.

17:14 <Cepheid> The amounts are definitely feasible to reach.  IF...

17:14 <Schism> Cepheid: Hmmm.  o.O

17:14 <Cepheid> You're counting cans, small packages, and the like.

17:14 <Cepheid> Because cans are fast and easy to count.

17:15 <Schism> Aye, larger products naturally won't have that sort of timeframe.

17:15 <Cepheid> A case often has 12 or 24, so you can look at a stack of cases, count N x 12 or N x 24, + (12 - missing in a case) or + (24 - missing in a case)

17:15 <Cepheid> So you can easily rack up 100 or so units quickly with one or two products.

17:15 <Cepheid> But when you hit general merchandise in say, a Walmart, or an RCSS..

17:16 <Cepheid> Where they sell microwaves, tea kettles, and the like..

17:17 <Cepheid> RCSS and Walmart are bad for this actually, because some even carry a fridge or three.

17:17 <Cepheid> Point is, the larger items count as one unit.

17:17 <Cepheid> Individual cans, small boxes of stacked products, food, each box, can, etc is one unit.

17:17 <Cepheid> You'll hit your units-per-hour on the cans and such.  Larger items?  Not so much.

17:18 <Cepheid> And heavens help you if you're in a bulk-item job, but they send you off to do clothing.

17:18 <Cepheid> Clothing is always done AQ1.  Auto-quantity 1.  You scan an item, it automatically goes in as one unit.

17:18 <Cepheid> You use this on items that look similar, but have different UPCs for one reason or another.

17:18 <Cepheid> Often the case being "different sizes of shirts, pants, bras, etc."

17:19 <Cepheid> So instead of scanning the facing item and counting 20+ of those items, then entering 20 in about, 3-4 seconds..

17:19 <Cepheid> You're scanning 20 individual items over several minutes.

17:19 <Cepheid> On clothing, even at the higher end of speed, you're only gonna top out at around 900 to 1000 units per hour.

17:20 <Cepheid> Which is a problem when the expected quota is 2000+

17:20 <Cepheid> Oh, and when you start the bulk item program(They call the databases "programs") midway through and on clothing..

17:20 <Cepheid> You're basically ****ed.

17:21 <Cepheid> It expected me to, in Walmart's clothing, shoes and the like, to achieve a UPH of 1950.

17:21 <Schism> Glhn.  That's... just plain stupid.

17:21 <Cepheid> In a good, well-prepped store, and with excessively fast hands, I could probably pull it off.  But this is Walmart we're talking about.

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17:21 <Cepheid> All of it was horribly mixed up, the tags were stuffed inside the shirts and regularly required pulling them out, or the shoes were missing left or right feet, or even tags altogether.

17:22 <Cepheid> Worst case were the "not on file" items.

17:22 <Cepheid> Those are where the store's internal database that was provided to us did not have certain items in it.

17:23 <Schism> A frequent case in Wal*Mart, I'm given to understand.

17:23 <Cepheid> And when we get a not-on-file, we have to try scanning two or three times, then look at the product to see if there's another UPC on it somewhere(SHoes, this is guaranteed almost.  Go look at your shoes, you can probably find the UPC embroidered on them somewhere.) and manually enter it.  Twice, if the first time fails.

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17:31 <Cepheid> But yeah, Walmart has a lot of these problems.

17:31 <Cepheid> RCSS tends to be a lot better surprisingly.

17:31 <Cepheid> RCSS in fact tends to be among the most well-prepped stores.

17:31 <Cepheid> All of the product is pushed back, lined up and stacked well for easy counting..

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17:31 <Cepheid> For clothing, all of the clothing is sorted by size, going from smallest to largest.  Most of the tags are usually pulled out and ready for counting, especially on the table product, where they leave folded shirts, pants and the like.

17:31 <Cepheid> Their basic process for handling not-on-files or missing tags and such is to just leave it at the front desk, they'll handle it.

17:31 <Cepheid> From what I understand, it's the back room that's the real problem for RCSS.  They often have way too much stuff back there.

17:31 <Cepheid> And, unfortunately, the parent company doesn't listen to rules.

17:32 <Cepheid> When an inventory is due to happen at a store, certain types of products are not to be shipped to that store, for the sake of affecting the inventory.

17:32 <Cepheid> The first RCSS I did when starting this job, two days prior to the inventory, the parent company had numerous skids and crates of clothing inexplicably shipped to the store.  The store manager and clothing managers were not happy.

17:32 <Schism> I can imagine, yes... o.o

17:33 <Cepheid> Which, actually, confuses me by the way.

17:33 <Cepheid> Why do we have to unpack the shipped product, and scan it all in?

17:33 <Schism> Though you might think that a shipment with an actual manifest-- yeah.

17:33 <Cepheid> Why can't the parent company just include a shipping manifest?

17:33 <Cepheid> Like, a manifest of all the product that's on the skid, with UPCs, counts, etc?

17:33 <Cepheid> But nope, it seems no company does this.

17:34 <Cepheid> We have to rip open every box on those skids, scan in each product, count it, and repeat.

17:34 <Cepheid> It's worse when it's clothing, because as I stated, we have to scan in each and every item, one by one.

17:34 <Cepheid> Fortunately for me, I don't do back room duty.  Allergies.

17:35 <Schism> That is fortunate, aye.

17:35 <Cepheid> No offense to people looking for product that doesn't look like it's been sitting on the shelf for weeks, but you're not gonna find product that wasn't sitting on shelves for weeks.

17:35 <Cepheid> It's gonna be covered in dust either way.

17:35 <Cepheid> Those back rooms, the store rooms?  Dusty as hell.

17:35 <Cepheid> Maybe even a bit moldy in places.

17:36 <Cepheid> Particularly around cardboard recycling, and the fridged goods freezers.

17:36 <Cepheid> Which is another thing, that "fresh produce" is generally anything but, usually.

17:36 <Cepheid> It's been sitting in a refridgerated room for a while.

17:37 * Cepheid is familiar with this because he's worked in both inventory counting, *AND* a grocery store.

17:37 <Cepheid> That said, I would love to please ask the whole lot of you to not do one thing.

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17:37 <Cepheid> If you take product from a refridgerated area, or from the deli, bakery, etc..

17:37 <Cepheid> And you suddenly decide you don't want it?

17:38 <Cepheid> For the love of Schism's Fnargle, bring it back, please.

17:38 <Cepheid> I did not want to discover a container of yoghurt hidden behind several boxes of cereal, that had been sitting there for THREE. FREAKING. YEARS.

17:38 <Cepheid> Or the sandwich meat that was green and fuzzy.

17:39 <Schism> Y...es.  I have a mild case of mycophobia, and that would send me reeling.

17:40 <Cepheid> It doesn't send me reeling, it just disgusts me is all.

17:40 <Cepheid> Other things I'd like to ask is to stop leaving your empty(or even full, in some cases) coffee cups on the shelves.

17:41 <Cepheid> Overall though, people tend to be relatively polite and decent.

17:41 <Cepheid> You do see the occasional person putting product back in the wrong place, though.  And as an inventory counter, I regularly get asked if I can help customers.

17:42 <Cepheid> Despite the fact that I'm in an RCSS, I'm not dressed like a store clerk there, and I also have "WIS" branding all over my shirt.

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17:44 <LibrarianofHope> i do that out of laziness, just leave stuff on the nearest shlef if im not taking

17:44 <Cepheid> Please don't.

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17:44 <LibrarianofHope> knowing now its an actual incovenience i will stop doing it

17:45 <Cepheid> It's annoying, impacts inventory, affects the store's shrink rate(Because it doesn't get counted), among other things.

17:45 <Cepheid> Shrink being a term for "shoplifting or lost product"

17:45 <LibrarianofHope> i just thought it just got back to its proper place eventually, did not know it caused such a hassle

17:47 <Cepheid> It might, if the clerks are observant about it.

17:47 <Cepheid> But in a majority of cases, it doesn't.

17:48 <Cepheid> And we're basically required to not count it, for one reason or another.  It depends on the store.

17:49 <Cepheid> Which basically means that ends up as product that's counted as "shrink."

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17:49 <Cepheid> As for spoilable foots, like dairy products, meat, deli, anything that requires refridgeration, well..

17:49 <Cepheid> THat just kinda results in spoiled food.

17:50 <LibrarianofHope> ill be carefull next time

17:50 <LibrarianofHope> its the sort of thing that gets lost in the normal mental noise, but its good to be empathic if you can

17:53 <Cepheid> Really, I don't care *TOO* much about dry, canned goods and such.

17:53 <Cepheid> It's more the refridgerated stuff that bugs me.

17:53 <Cepheid> It smells like you wouldn't believe when it's been sitting out baking in the store somewhere.

17:53 <Schism> Indeed.  Because perishables are so named because they so rapidly go bad.

17:53 <Schism> Oh, I would believe...

17:54 <LibrarianofHope> my sense of smell is almost non existant, so i cant really relate much on taht

17:54 <LibrarianofHope> but it seems like it would be awfull for more sensitive people

18:02 <Dekko> LibrarianofHope sorry to just jump in but are we talking about having a sensitive sense of smell here?

18:03 <Dekko> If so I can relate so much. Horrible absolutely horrible.

18:03 <Dekko> People drenching themselves in perfume or deodorant, and now in summer.... barbecuing neighbors.....drives me crazy. :-P

18:04 <Cepheid> Unfortunately for me, my sense of smell is weird.

18:04 <Cepheid> I can smell "negative" scents.  Rotten food, garbage, burnables(cigarettes, cigars, etc), and so on.

18:05 <Cepheid> But I can't smell anything pleasant.

18:05 <Cepheid> If I do, it's a rare case.

18:05 <Dekko> Seriously that ... is rather sad....

18:05 <Dekko> My sensitivity is getting worser the older I get it seems.

18:06 <Cepheid> I have chronic rhinitus/a chronic sinus infection.

18:07 <Cepheid> I've had it for about mmm, 17 years now?

18:07 <Dekko> Well that would explain your issues with smelling stuff to a certain degree.

18:08 <Cepheid> More or less.

18:08 <Cepheid> I know why it happens, not much I can do about it.

18:08 <Dekko> I know someone who lost about ~40% of her sense of smell after removing a benign tumor. So now she sprays the entire house with airfreshener in order to smell anything sort of. And I have to change my clothes and shower after every visit :-(

18:09 <Cepheid> Well, no, there is.

18:09 <Cepheid> It's just everything is so danged expensive for me to try.  Most of it is stuff not covered by OHIP.

18:09 <Dekko> ohip?

18:09 <Cepheid> Ontario Health Insurance Plan

18:10 <Cepheid> Taxpayer-covered health insurance, basically.

18:10 <Dekko> Oh I see. But if you're in Canada your healthcare system should be fairly similar to what we have in Sweden (where I live)

18:10 <Cepheid> Fairly.  Though things might be changing in the future thanks to the Ford Provincial Government.

18:10 <Cepheid> He's rustling up the entire healthcare system in the province.

18:11 <Cepheid> At this rate, I see him scrapping OHIP and other systems that make it easy for us to get health care.

18:11 <Cepheid> But yeah, some things here aren't covered by it.

18:11 <Cepheid> Prescription drugs, for one, are not covered.  That said, it's still far more cheaper to get prescription drugs here than say, in the US.

18:11 <Dekko> Horrible. I used to be sort of a wannabe-american when I was younger, but now understanding how especially their healthcare system works over there - no way I would trade it for what we have in Sweden.

18:12 <Cepheid> That was one of the reasons I think Schism moved (back?) to Canada, if I recall?

18:12 <Cepheid> If I moved to the US, Dekko, I'd be bankrupt within 5 minutes.  I've so many health problems that it'd be cheaper to just let me die.

18:12 <Dekko> And sadly I think they'd let you if you lived in the U.S.... I think.

18:13 <Cepheid> Anyhow, that's not what I'm discussing here..

18:13 <Cepheid> The choices I have for treatment of my problem are...

18:13 <Dekko> Yeah.

18:13 <Cepheid> Prescription antihistamines, over-the-counter antihistamines, prescription antibiotics, prescription medications that target certain things.

18:13 <Cepheid> And immunotherapy treatment for various allergies.

18:13 <Cepheid> The prescriptions range from $20 to $100 depending on what it is, and for how long.

18:14 <Dekko> I've.... been horribly out of touch with Canternet... playing catch-up with pony episodes etc. Still love it but haven't been as much into it lately. Anything new happening worth noting?

18:14 <Cepheid> The immunotherapy treatment is $300 for a year, or about $25/mo.

18:14 <Cepheid> Not that I'm aware of.  You'd have to ask the others.

18:14 <Cepheid> I haven't watched pony since mid-season 3.  I lost interest in it.

18:14 <Cepheid> I stick around for the friendship.

18:15 <Dekko> I think here in Sweden if we pay more than 1.500 SEK (210 CAD) for either medications or like doctors visits.... anything beyond that is covered by the state and entirely free.

18:15 <Dekko> For the rest of the year.

18:15 <Dekko> Then it starts over.

18:15 <Cepheid> For the most part, those are about the only things I have to pay for, really.

18:15 <Cepheid> Ambulances too, but those are cheap as hell.

18:15 <Cepheid> The rest is all paid for by OHIP.

18:16 <Cepheid> There are a few edge cases, though.

18:16 <Cepheid> Like people who get amputations have to pay for whatever tools they need to continue their life as naturally as possible.

18:16 <Cepheid> This one I know because it came up recently in the local news.

18:17 <Cepheid> A woman lost two of her legs in a terrifying bus accident, and she's sueing for lost wages, various damages, impact to life, and, of all things, for a wheelchair.

18:18 <Dekko> Wow so you don't have full coverage over there. One criticism that's been heard about the Swedish healthcare system though is that the wait times can get ridiculously long and ... can actually cost the patient their life if they don't get in on time to get the help they need.

18:18 <Cepheid> That reminds me.

18:18 <Dekko> So I guess there's downsides to everything.

18:18 <Cepheid> Schism!  OCTranspo says we'll be able to ride the LRT in September.

18:18 <Cepheid> Dekko, I won't lie, that is a problem here too.

18:18 <Cepheid> Wait times can get extremely long, and have actually resulted in the death of people.

18:19 <Cepheid> Right now, our hospitals are understaffed, underfunded, and the provincial governments keep cutting funding to healthcare.

18:19 <Cepheid> In fact, just yesterday it was announed that 400 administrative workers in health care are going to lose their jobs.

18:19 <Dekko> An American friend of mine here in Sweden goes on about how they can get excellent care VERY QUICKLY Stateside entirely ignoring the fact that they have to pay INSANE amounts of money for even a simple doctors visit....

18:20 <Cepheid> Hilariously, this affects the Ford Government, because one of their promises was that in fixing up healthcare, no one would lose their jobs.

18:21 <Dekko> And yeah I also stick around for the friendship more or less. Some of the people I met here back when the Pony craze was on full force I still keep in touch with to this day even though they have moved away from being Bronies etc.

18:21 <Cepheid> But yeah, paid healthcare works wonders in regards to lineups, I'll admit.

18:21 <Cepheid> But what stops the extreme abuse of the concept?

18:21 <Schism> Sorry, was making cookies.  Yes, insulin costs are an enormous part of it.

18:21 <Schism> You see, average insulin costs in the US with insurance are ~$500/month.

18:21 <Schism> That's WITH insurance.

18:21 <Cepheid> Schism, what type of diabetes was it you had?

18:21 <Schism> Type 1, insulin-dependent.

18:22 <Cepheid> From-birth type too?

18:22 <Schism> Nah, my pancreas shut down when I was 13.

18:22 <Dekko> Schism: Here in Sweden I've never heard of anyone diabetic not being able to have their insulin due to lack of funds. I think the state actually provides it (if I'm not entirely mistaken)

18:22 <Cepheid> Ah.

18:22 <Cepheid> Mine still works, I'm not dependent on insulin.  YET>

18:22 <Schism> Dekko: Indeed, and here in Canada, same applies.

18:23 <Dekko> This is one thing that makes me feel good about living in Sweden. :)

18:23 <Schism> But there are stories of teenagers in the US deciding to ration their insulin so that they didn't continue to be an overwhelming financial burden for their parents.

18:23 <Dekko> Also the surströmming ;-) :D

18:23 <Cepheid> Capitalism was a good idea at the start, but when companies realized what they could do with it over time, the flaws in capitalism became clear.

18:23 <Schism> Ah, yes, surströmming.  Where, when the can looks like a football, it's ready to eat.

18:23 <Cepheid> Schism:  I live in Canada, and as is, that is practically how I feel.

18:23 <Dekko> Or throw away before it bursts? ;-)

18:23 <Cepheid> I feel like I am a financial burden upon my parents because of my medications.

18:24 <Cepheid> The only thing preventing that from bothering me too much is the medication.

18:24 * Schism nods. "It would be... much, much worse elsewhere, though."

18:24 <Cepheid> I actually feel like a burden upon all of society because of my reliance on OHIP and hospitals.

18:24 <Cepheid> But that's just me.

18:24 <Cepheid> I observe the world through weird lenses.

18:25 <Cepheid> And surstromming, yes.  Sorry, I can't do accents on this keyboard easily.  Anyways, I've... heard of it.

18:25 <Cepheid> I'd be willing to try it.  But I'd have to noseclip my nose.

18:25 <Cepheid> As I said, I can only smell unpleasant scents.

18:26 <Cepheid> At this point in my life, I'm willing to try anything once, so long as it's not poisonous, or does not carry a risk of being poisonous.

18:26 <Cepheid> Thus, I will not, under any circumstances try fugu.

18:26 <Dekko> Surstromming I mean I think it's so funny, most of the time when you watch some youtube video of an American trying to eat it they just take a whole fish and bite down on it. You're supposed to de-bone it first, then put it on some buttered bread with cut up boiled potatoes, some chopped onions, and sourcream.

18:27 <Cepheid> If the Japanese Emperor/Prime Minister is forbidden from eating it due to the risk, then I'm not gonna eat it either.

18:27 <Dekko> And to have a good beer to go with it (or as some like it - with a glass of cold milk)

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18:27 <Cepheid> Does it have to be beer?

18:27 <Cepheid> I'm not a fan of beer.  I prefer vodka-mixed drinks.

18:27 <Dekko> Cepheid: Milk works. :)

18:28 <Cepheid> I dunno, I think I'd want a few shots of vodka on hand, or a few bottles of cider or Mike's Hard Lemonade on hand

18:28 <Dekko> But yeah it's NOT dangerous to eat surstromming (I guess it translates into "sour herring" (fermented to h**k)

18:28 <Cepheid> Because after eating it, I imagine I'd want to forget it via heavy drinking.

18:28 <Cepheid> Yeah, it's fermented herring.

18:28 <Cepheid> So yeah, it's presumably not deadly to eat.

18:28 <Cepheid> Just... an acquired taste.

18:28 <Cepheid> And acquired smell.

18:28 <Cepheid> And acquired insanity.

18:29 <Dekko> Very much so. Like .... rootbeer to non-americans/canadians(?) .... I love it but I've been drinking it since I was like 12-13 years old so :)

18:29 <Schism> Root beer is of the good.  :S  Heh, for another acquired taste: natto.

18:29 <Cepheid> But then again, it's a little unfair to Sweden to act like they're insane for creating it, given that most countries tend to have at least one delicacy or food item that makes you want to go "What the bloody ****ing hell?"

18:29 <Dekko> Now the only problem is I can't find Diet Rootbeer (I have type 2 diabetes), so I can only treat myself to it very rarely :)

18:30 <Cepheid> I just ignore my diabetes.

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18:30 <Cepheid> Probably shouldn't.

18:30 <Schism> S'long as you get enough exercise it's workable.

18:30 <Cepheid> But right now, my pancreas still works last I checked.  My blood-glucose goes down on it's own.

18:30 <Schism> Cepheid: Like corn smut!  Huitlacoche, mmm, a delightful delicacy which bears more similarities to a bacterial infection.

18:30 <Cepheid> And nowadays, I exercise through work excessively.

18:30 <Dekko> Hmmm what ?

18:30 <Cepheid> Hell, in the last three weeks of work alone, I've lost like, 4 inches off my waist.

18:31 <Cepheid> Hi there Sp- ..

18:31 <Cepheid> Shylo, you *****.

18:31 <Cepheid> Had Spitfire on my lap in the living room, as usual.

18:32 <Cepheid> Shylo rushes up wagging her tail.  Spitfire jumped off.

18:32 <Cepheid> I am begginning to hate this dog.

18:32 <Cepheid> I don't want it here.

18:32 <Dekko> This American friend of mine who lives here, he had real issues with drinking Julmust and Påskmust (they sell it around christmas and easter (Jul/Påsk) and it is sort of like carbonated... mead/beer but non-alcoholic and sweeter. I like the taste having grown up on it but my friend says it tastes like medicine.....

18:33 <Dekko> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julmust

18:34 * Schism offers Dekko some marmite on toast. Heh. Also, offers Cepheid a spray bottle... "Stupid dog."

18:34 <Dekko> Schism: Is the spray bottle for putting out the fire when the dog... Spitsfire? :)

18:34 <Cepheid> Fortunately, all of next week the dog will be gone.

18:34 <Cepheid> My sister is taking the dog to Cornwall with her for whatever reason.

18:35 <Cepheid> And she'll be gone for the whole week.

18:35 * Dekko is not a big fan of Marmite. I've tried it but its too salty and intense.

18:35 <Cepheid> So the cats will be relaxed again for a bit.

18:35 <Cepheid> Amazingly, I dislike marmite, but I like anchovies.

18:35 <Dekko> Anchovies is .... something else :D

18:37 <Dekko> I usually eat them on bread or in Janssons Frestelse (Janssons Temptation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janssons_frestelse :)

18:42 * Cepheid adds a few more requests and responses to his XML file. He's chipping away at it slowly rather than working on it rabidly, because going at it for hours burns him out.

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18:51 * Schism makes a few dozen cranberry vanilla oatmeal cookies.

18:52 <Cepheid> Hum, at some point, after I finalize the details of the XML format after having manually constructed it by hand, and then tweaking things..

18:52 <Cepheid> I should create a program that parses the specification documentation files, and generates the XML automatically, so that later updates can be much faster.

18:52 <Cepheid> Though that may not work.

18:53 <Cepheid> The problem with it being that the documentation is in varying formats, and inconsistent in it's declarations.

18:56 <Cepheid> Hmm.

18:56 <Cepheid> Could just parse the xorgproto subproject of xorg.

18:56 <Cepheid> Contains the C headers for the protocol.

18:57 <Cepheid> But then there's the unions.  Those need special cases.

18:58 <Cepheid> That said, the only usage of a union I see is in the events.

19:15 <Cepheid> Man, whoever designed this protocol is probably drunk out of their gourd on a daily basis.

19:16 <Cepheid> In any case, the header files seem clean enough that it should be a relatively trivial case to simply parse them and spit out C# code.

19:23 <LibrarianofHope> i got a crunchyroll one month premium for like 3 bucks, good discounts

19:24 <LibrarianofHope> imma watch rwby while i paint, might pick up something usefull

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19:26 * LibrarianofHope gives ali a steampunky scythe becuase reasons

19:26 * Ali squeaks

19:30 <LibrarianofHope> dashedrainbows

19:30 <LibrarianofHope> question friend

19:31 <LibrarianofHope> what would you call a world where a lot of furry tyoe charercters live?

19:31 <LibrarianofHope> more on the humans with animals ears side, but esssentialy the same

19:38 <Cepheid> Curses, a problem.

19:38 <Cepheid> I wasn't expecting any of the X11 protocol to use unsigned 64-bit integers, but there are some extensions that do.

19:39 <Cepheid> Time for a work-around to handle that, I guess.

19:42 <Cepheid> Ah.

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19:56 <LibrarianofHope> im always fascinated by the stuff you say cepheid

19:56 <LibrarianofHope> i dont really understand it, but sounds intersting

19:57 <Cepheid> Heh.

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20:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Let's Review: My Little Pony the Manga [ http://tinyurl.com/y5e95b9k ]

20:13 <Schism> Pff.  "Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear" is cute.

20:13 <DashedRainbows> I feel pinged

20:14 <DashedRainbows> I'd just call it Earth+ but that's horrible

20:15 * DashedRainbows flops on Ali and yawns

20:16 * Ali cuddles with DashedRainbows

20:16 * DashedRainbows makes pony noises

20:18 * DashedRainbows licks Ali happily

20:23 <LibrarianofHope> im thinking on sequel settings

20:24 <LibrarianofHope> i have a fairly strong setting in mind, but i was thinking on names

20:24 <LibrarianofHope> i could go simply an just call it wildkinf kingdoms

20:26 * DashedRainbows is bad at names, instead chews on LibrarianofHope

20:28 * LibrarianofHope dances like lord of the dance

20:32 * DashedRainbows dances like horse

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20:36 * Cepheid flops his way upstairs.

20:36 * Schism makes sure that Spitfire goes with.

20:36 <DashedRainbows> everypony do the flop!

20:39 <Cepheid> Man oh man, there is something in that old server machine of mine that is LOUUUUUDDD.

20:43 * Schism hums, "Beep beep, I'm a sheep."

20:43 <Schism> Cepheid: Yeeesh.  o.o

20:44 <Cepheid> On top of that, something about the system is unstable.  Not sure what, but it sometimes won't get past the POST screen.

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20:46 <Cepheid> Looks like it might have been one of the onboard devices.

20:47 <Schism> Makes sense.  If it's a server box, wanna bet it's something like the onboard ethernet?

20:47 <Cepheid> Nah, not ethernet.  That works fine.

20:47 <Cepheid> I disabled everything but ethernet.  Don't need audio, etc.

20:49 * Schism nodnods.

20:49 <Schism> And USB, I take it.

20:50 <Cepheid> Yes.

20:54 <Cepheid> Hum, doesn't look like Server 2019 likes this PC.

20:54 <Cepheid> Locks up after loading files required to start the install.

20:54 <Schism> That's very strange.

20:55 <Cepheid> It's an old system.

20:55 <Cepheid> Like, pre-2010.

20:55 <Cepheid> I'll use the 2016 Standard I can get on Microsoft Azure, see if that works.  Failing that, I'll just install Windows 7 Home on it.

20:55 <Cepheid> I just need a Windows setup.

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21:01 * Schism pours strong coffee into floof.

21:03 *** Changeling_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares

21:03 * Filly_Nightmares mewls at Schism and wigglewaggles muchly!

21:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3014 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5jr8gka ]

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21:44 <Schism> Pizza night.

21:44 <Schism> One with chicken, hot peppers, and extra cheese; one with pineapple, ham, and bacon.

21:45 * Schism wigglewaggles a slice of Hawaiian pizza towards the Filly_Nightmares.

21:49 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/xc4h2mh1ij531.jpg That last paragraph is always a problem with me due to my constant sweating.

21:55 <Schism> There are a goodly number of Pride posters being posted in NYC's subways again.  They're always worth a look.

21:56 <Schism> Like these.  http://tinyurl.com/y42ss8v4

22:03 <LibrarianofHope> NICE

22:03 <LibrarianofHope> sorry

22:03 <LibrarianofHope> nice

22:06 <LibrarianofHope> heck, tired

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22:11 * Filly_Nightmares nomfs the pizza and licks Schism because he tastes like wuv!

22:14 <Schism> Cepheid: GE decided to put firmware on their lightbulbs.  Why?  Well, to make them easier to turn off and on via Bluetooth, of course.  And then they decided to put in a factory reset method which involves turning the lightbulb on and off, with very precise 2- and 8-second intervals, at least six times.

22:14 <Schism> How darned hard would it have been to implement a button?

22:17 * Filly_Nightmares pushes her head into Schism tummy

22:18 * Schism patpats the floof, and offers some garlic sauce wif the pizza.

22:19 <Cepheid> Not that hard, I can tell you that much.

22:19 <LibrarianofHope> im having pizza tommorow

22:19 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, IoT man, it's the next Big(TM) thing!

22:20 <LibrarianofHope> self treat for the hard work

22:20 <Schism> Internet of $#!&, as is so often said.

22:21 <Schism> LibrarianofHope, pizza is a worthwhile celebration.  I suggest a nice cumin sauce with ground beef, tomatoes, extra cheese and onions.

22:22 <Schism> And possibly jalapenos.

22:24 <Schism> Oh yay.  Cepheid, the recent wave of ransomware hitting US cities uses a tool called EternalBlue.  Guess who developed it and subsequently lost control of it?

22:24 <Cepheid> No idea.

22:24 <Schism> No Such Agency.

22:25 <Cepheid> NSA.

22:25 <Schism> Control of the project was lost a couple years back, but yeesh.

22:26 <Cepheid> I am honestly not surprised.

22:30 <Schism> Remember the 'WannaCry' attacks a couple years back which hit the British healthcare services?  Yeah, that.

22:34 <Schism> Really good interview by NPR regarding this: https://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=732320853

22:34 * Ali noms Schism ear

22:35 * Schism offers the Ali a slice of extra cheese and chicken pizza with pesto sauce.

22:36 * Ali prefers the Schism ear for now

22:36 * Schism is not a tasty changeling, though.

22:37 <Ali> Eh, I'm not picky

22:37 * Filly_Nightmares nomfs Schism other ear and purrs at Ali!

22:37 * Ali keeps nomming away

22:38 * Schism earflops.

22:41 * Ali eyeflutters at Schism

22:42 * DashedRainbows sits on Ali. Go horsey go?

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22:42 * Ali poofs onto DashedRainbows back instead~

22:42 <Schism> Giddyup Ali, the great new toy for children!

22:43 * DashedRainbows pouts at Schism. Is big pony

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22:44 * DashedRainbows gives Ali a pony ride. Now pay up...

22:44 * Ali noms DashedRainbows ear~

22:45 * DashedRainbows tastes of birb horse

22:47 * Ali pets the birb horse, is nice birb horse

22:48 * DashedRainbows flaps her wings and barks, er, whinnies

22:49 * DashedRainbows hugs her Ali plush

22:50 * Ali squeaks, didn't know those existed

22:53 * LibrarianofHope checks it

22:53 <LibrarianofHope> 100% cute guarantee or your dashed back

22:53 <LibrarianofHope> good offer

22:53 * DashedRainbows boops Ali's horn

22:53 <DashedRainbows> I'm currency?

22:53 * Ali is not cute though

22:54 <LibrarianofHope> horses were currency once

22:54 <LibrarianofHope> horse/dogs are more valuable

22:54 <LibrarianofHope> also you gave it, so you got yourself back

22:55 <LibrarianofHope> im confused

22:55 * DashedRainbows licks LibrarianofHope and pants

22:55 <DashedRainbows> It's hot today

22:56 <LibrarianofHope> its always hot nowadays

22:58 <DashedRainbows> I live in a branch of hell

22:58 *** [AFK] is now known as PurePurple

22:59 <DashedRainbows> 36C right now and it's not that bad yet

23:00 <Schism> In weird news, Hell, Michigan has been sold to a private investor, who has renamed the town to "Gay Hell".

23:00 <Cepheid> And the only flag that can fly there is the pride flag.

23:00 <Schism> Indeed!

23:00 <LibrarianofHope> why?

23:00 <LibrarianofHope> you can own towna?

23:00 * Ali sits at a comfortable 69F, unicorn tried to convert it but lost it already

23:00 <DashedRainbows> Good quarantine it

23:00 <LibrarianofHope> towns?

23:00 * Cepheid will be back in a bit. Shower time.

23:01 <Schism> LibrarianofHope, it's not an incorporated town, so all the land there is privately owned; often, folks would pay to become the mayor of the town for a few weeks.

23:01 <LibrarianofHope> so for fun?

23:02 <Schism> More or less.  Though he's thinking of finding a way to permanently purchase it.

23:02 <LibrarianofHope> why would you want to buy your way into that? seems like a hassle of paperwork

23:02 <DashedRainbows> 97F is just stupid. I dread the actual heat

23:03 <LibrarianofHope> also they could have named it happy inferno, better to atracct touritas

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23:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Series of My Little Pony Augmented Reality Books Hit Amazon [ http://tinyurl.com/y293zfsu ]

23:11 * DashedRainbows chews on a random book

23:16 <Schism> Hum.  I think I shall go for a walk before it gets too dark.

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23:20 * Changeling_Nightmares hats on Schism!

23:20 * Changeling_Nightmares purrs and clutches head

23:20 <Changeling_Nightmares> I am go!

23:20 <Changeling_Nightmares> Bai bai!

23:20 * Changeling_Nightmares purrrrrrs

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23:22 * DashedRainbows flops and plays with her chew toy

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23:29 <PinkieShy> hihi :D

23:29 <PinkieShy> I finally got to sleep at like 2:40am last night :D

23:30 <PinkieShy> Woke up at 10:30 and oh boy.. I had the best night rest in a super long time :D

23:30 <PinkieShy> So full of energy and so happy :D

23:30 * DashedRainbows gives her chew toy to PinkieShy

23:30 <DashedRainbows> The exact opposite of me

23:31 * PinkieShy hands DashedRainbows a chew toy that squeaks and looks like a rubber newspaper labelled "Ponyville daily"

23:31 * DashedRainbows yays

23:32 <PinkieShy> Idk if we still are but we were under a severe thunderstorm warning earlier.

23:32 <PinkieShy> Thunder was so extremely loud and poured rain badly.

23:32 <PinkieShy> even power went out for like 3 seconds

23:32 <DashedRainbows> Is it stupid hot there too?

23:32 <PinkieShy> eeyup!

23:33 <PinkieShy> High: 92 °F tomorrow..

23:33 <DashedRainbows> How cool

23:33 <DashedRainbows> 96F

23:33 <PinkieShy> Bought a new game :)

23:34 <PinkieShy> well new oldy game :P

23:34 <PinkieShy> I bought it on the 3ds store and its pokemon yellow version :)

23:34 <DashedRainbows> Cool

23:34 <PinkieShy> Having Pikachu follow me around everywhere is so adoreable :D

23:34 <DashedRainbows> It is

23:36 * DashedRainbows chews on her new chew toy

23:40 <PinkieShy> My dog did something that scared me earlier, He saw a wasp outside and tried to bite it..

23:40 <PinkieShy> Glad he didn't catch it.. That would been instant regret.. I realized what he was doing and pulled him away

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23:45 <ADragonDreaming> if stung, yeh.

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23:54 * Cepheid flops back.

23:55 * Cepheid sweats a bucket of water.

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23:57 * Cepheid is all shaved, too. Bald head, no more beard.

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