00:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Fanfiction: There She Goes! [ http://tinyurl.com/yyraldxh ]
00:00 <PsychicKid> I should submit my fic to EQD sometime
00:01 <Ali> 15 engine parts built, 5 to go, time is running down to 7 minutes left. X.x
00:01 <Cepheid> ... This pillow is amazing.
00:01 <Ali> Cepheid, have you ever gotten the train achievement?
00:02 <Cepheid> I thought the firmness would be too much. But this is... It's perfect.
00:02 <Cepheid> That long fistsnce one?
00:02 <Cepheid> distance*
00:02 <Ali> No the building one within 90m of game start
00:03 <PsychicKid> Anyway, I'm off
00:03 <PsychicKid> Y'all have a good night, I Should be back again sometime
00:03 <Ali> Night
00:04 <Cepheid> Oh that one. Not sure.
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00:21 * PinkieShy hands Ali some bacon
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00:30 <LunaNightwind> back from eating ddinner thinking about going live on stream again
00:31 <LunaNightwind> just not sure what to play
00:37 <ADragonDreaming> Battle Kid
00:54 <Ali> Megaman 8 *shot*
00:54 <Ali> Cause remember
00:54 <Ali> Only YOU can sthap Doctah Wiwy
01:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Animation - Elevators Collab [ http://tinyurl.com/y3wsqt3x ]
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01:11 <ADragonDreaming> Only Hugh can prevent florist friars.
01:33 * Ali flops into ADragonDreaming
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01:37 <Schism> Ali: Hewwo, I'm Doctah Wight.
01:38 <Ali> Deeze? Scheems to be enahgy weesorces
01:38 * Schism attempts to Jump! Jump! Slide! Slide! and fails completely.
01:38 * Ali sends Wily Capsule 7 after Schism
01:38 <Schism> I should set up the old PSX and play that again sometime.
01:39 <LunaNightwind> i should pick up the mega man legacy collection and just bang through all the games
01:40 <Schism> I also have the legacy collection, on GCN. o3o
01:40 <Ali> Remember Legacy 1 is 1-6 and 2 is 7-10
01:40 <Ali> I do too Schism :P
01:40 <Ali> And have legacy 1 on DS and steam with 2 only on steam.
01:40 <Ali> Also I have Megaman 11 on steam and switch at 100% >.>
01:41 <Schism> Ali: But which one has Rockman & Bass? o3o
01:41 <Schism> Forte*
01:41 <Ali> None :P
01:41 <Schism> That's a shame, RM&F was fun. o3o Guess I'll fire up the old emulator, then!
01:44 <PinkieShy> :/
01:44 <PinkieShy> Back pain really hurting me tonight and ibuprofen was just taken so hope it helps.
01:45 <Ali> Just like how Megaman 1-5 GB hasn't been done yet
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02:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1888 [ http://tinyurl.com/y378x7ck ]
02:05 <Schism> Ah, now I remember. Rockman & Forte is hard as nails.
02:12 * Schism wonders if the Ali has that ROM.
02:12 <Ali> Nope sorry
02:12 <Schism> No, I'm offering it. o3o
02:13 <Schism> Oy
02:13 <Schism> Er, it's not like we can get it any OTHER way.
02:14 * Ali flops over Schism and yawnsies
02:14 <Schism> Ah, there was a GBA re-release some years later.
02:28 <LunaNightwind> sorry went AFK for a bit there
02:28 <LunaNightwind> yeah i know that legacy collection is split over 2 games, when adam gets paid ill just ask him to buy them for me
02:28 <LunaNightwind> oops when blazing gets paid
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02:30 <LunaNightwind> alternatively I got dolphin on my computer i could download anniversary collection for gamecube
02:31 <Reiko> Well good with you
02:36 * PinkieShy rolls over in front of Ali
02:36 <Schism> ... grumble. Spike traps...!
02:36 * Ali squeaks
02:40 <Schism> Oh of course.
02:40 <Schism> Disappearing blocks.
02:40 <Schism> Why did I play Astro Man's stage without expecting those?
02:40 <Schism> The timing on them is even tighter than usual, too.
02:56 * Schism flailyhooves.
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03:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pinkamena Party Music! Pony Vocal Chops and Cool Experiments! [ http://tinyurl.com/yxaa74o2 ]
03:01 <Ali> Dooooh, doooh, doooh doooh
03:01 * Ali flops into Schism for more nuzzling
03:03 * Schism pats the Ali, and offers coffee with biscotti!
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03:28 * Ali nuzzles Schism softly
03:44 * Schism squeezes the Ali.
03:44 * Ali squeaks
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04:04 <Schism> Cepheid: https://bobby-tables.com
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04:13 * Ali doesn't get it cause its a coding joke
04:17 <Schism> Ali: In the comic, an apostrophe (') is used to bracket a piece of data in a database. So, for example, 'Ali the Unicorn', or 'Schism the Changeling', would be valid entries in a database.
04:18 <Schism> If I decided to enter a piece of data as "Schism the Change'ling", then things would get a little broken, because it'd cut off at the apostrophe.
04:18 <Schism> It's like stopping a sent. ence at the wrong place.
04:20 * Ali nod nods
04:20 <Ali> I understand it bucked the database
04:20 <Ali> But the whole thing is lost on me
04:21 <Schism> S'fair.
04:21 * Schism also boops the Ali with the demo for Opus Magnum.
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04:40 <Ali> Hmmmmmm
04:40 <Ali> Schism, do unicorn statue spawned unicorns drop items?
04:42 <Schism> Very VERY rarely.
04:53 <Schism> Statues used to be good for that, but no longer. I believe it MIGHT be a good way to get banners, though.
04:55 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy
04:56 * PinkieShy licks DashedRainbows
04:57 <Schism> At the end of "The Blob", they ship the eponymous being to the icy wastes, where it shall remain forever, or until the Arctic thaws.
04:59 * DashedRainbows chews on PinkieShy's hooves
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05:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift
05:03 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
05:04 * Ali flops over ConfusionRift
05:04 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali.
05:05 <ConfusionRift> Oh look, another NFS game. (ignores it)
05:07 <Ali> NFS?
05:07 <ConfusionRift> Need for Speed.
05:07 <Ali> Oh..
05:07 * Ali snuggles up on ConfusionRift and blehs, unicorn is burning herself out of solo playing of several games and it stinks
05:08 * ConfusionRift snugs her back.
05:08 <ConfusionRift> Having a similar problem.
05:09 * DashedRainbows sniffs ConfusionRift, smells horsey
05:10 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P
05:12 * DashedRainbows sits on ConfusionRift. Giddy up?
05:12 * ConfusionRift runs around in circles.
05:14 <DashedRainbows> Whee!
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05:45 <Ali> ConfusionRift, how much do you know about circuts for Factorio?
05:45 <ConfusionRift> A bit.
05:46 <Ali> Cause I know nothing and tried to rework a nuke plant set up and kinda botched it up as it used up all the fuel when I don't want it to do so
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05:52 <ConfusionRift> I know Ceph had a setup for that on the server base, but I forgot how it was. I think it had to do with using two chests to meter the amount supplied to the plant, according to how much fuel there was.
05:53 <ConfusionRift> Hold on. I might have to run the game and check.
05:53 <Ali> Yeah I had to remove those chests cause I kinda don't want to use a logic system
05:53 <Ali> Also that map is gone ConfusionRift
05:53 <Ali> Not to mention the fact that map would be totally borked due to the changes since it was touched anyway
05:54 <ConfusionRift> Was gonna see how jump in single creative to see how it would work.
05:55 <Ali> I had a water flow problem till ceph bonked me on forcing too much thru one pipe
05:56 <ConfusionRift> Which version are you playing on?
05:57 <Ali> I think its .65?
05:57 <Ali> Whatever's current
05:58 <ConfusionRift> Unfortunately, you might have to use simple logic setups for it. Otherwise, it's just gonna keep auto-feeding all the fuel.
05:58 <Ali> It has a circuit thing set up
05:58 <Ali> But I don't want it to BE logic
05:59 <Ali> Cause Logic bots lag my PC when there's thousands of them
05:59 <ConfusionRift> Circuit... thing?
05:59 <Ali> Its a blueprint
05:59 <Ali> So its automatically programmed everything
05:59 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh. Okay. That kinda changes things.
05:59 <Ali> But I had to move some things around and the chests removed cause you can't insert over the accumulators
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06:01 <ConfusionRift> Then I'm not so sure what to do here.
06:02 <Ali> I don't either
06:02 <Ali> And it wouldn't stop spamming a warning of low fuel cells
06:03 <Ali> But I'm sure that's more due to the chests being gone.
06:08 <ConfusionRift> Okay, finally got the game loaded.
06:08 <Ali> Takes awhile after 30 micro patches :P
06:08 <ConfusionRift> So the plan is to limit fuel feeding to the nuclear reactor, right?
06:08 <Ali> yeah but without using a logic system
06:09 <ConfusionRift> There's where it gets tricky. You need to use logic, or at least something simple. And no, you don't need to use the bots for it.
06:10 <Ali> Well I can use chests
06:10 <Ali> But they cannot be logic chests
06:11 <ConfusionRift> You can use iron and steel chests for a simple logic circuit.
06:11 <ConfusionRift> Using wires.
06:11 <Ali> Yes yes I was thinking that
06:11 <Ali> But I thought the thing was programmed to not insert if the reactor was running too well? I don't know
06:12 <Ali> Then the thing wasn't removing spent rods
06:13 <ConfusionRift> If it hasn't been changed, no. It will continue being fed even if it's still running a fuel cell already, and will keep that spent cell as well.
06:13 <Ali> I don't remember
06:13 <Ali> It was just acting strange
06:20 <Schism> Isn't that why it's important to have circuits set up so that it only starts feeding the reactor when a certain event (less heat) occurs?
06:20 <ConfusionRift> Wait, can you wire the boilers for heat?
06:25 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
06:25 * Schism watches someone blow up a whole chain of nuclear reactors for funsies.
06:26 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows and Surreal_Nightmares; Messrs Cepheid and Schism.
06:26 <Finwe> o7
06:26 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
06:26 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
06:26 <Finwe> Breakfast tiem? :3
06:27 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
06:27 * Schism doffs his buttermilk pancakes with apricot jam. o3o
06:30 * ConfusionRift has kind of a setup up. "Let's see..."
06:37 <Finwe> So you've set up a setup?
06:37 <Finwe> o3o
06:54 <Schism> Well. Compared to Astro Man, Cold Man was a walk in the park. And his stage was very, very simple.
06:56 <ConfusionRift> Okay, it seems this circuit might work, but might sound a bit complex.
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07:00 <ConfusionRift> Ali: This one, unfortunately, does use a bit of logic. No logic chests involved though, just an outer circuit and cabling.
07:00 * Ali nod nods to ConfusionRift
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07:00 * Ali flings BurnerMan at Schism
07:01 <ConfusionRift> Ali: https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?t=48932
07:01 <ConfusionRift> Simplest approach I have seen so far.
07:01 <Schism> Ali: I just got the Ice Wall, and it turns out to be useful in Burner Man's stage.
07:02 * Golden just watched a gundam movie called Endless Waltz.
07:05 * Schism makes sure to pick up the Energy Balancer, of course.
07:05 <Golden> ._.
07:06 <Schism> Golden: I've heard that's a good one.
07:06 <Finwe> Mr Golden.
07:06 * Finwe doffs his hat.
07:06 * Finwe then hats on Ali.
07:07 <Golden> Yeh?
07:16 <Schism> "Ice Wall is Burner Man's weakness," they say. THEY LIE.
07:16 <ConfusionRift> Yep, that works just fine. It actually allows the reactor to use the five cells that are automatically fed, and leaves it dry till steam gets too low.
07:25 * Schism gets: Wave Burner.
07:34 <Schism> And now, Remote Mine. Pirate Man's stage had a lot of spikes. :< But it was manageable.
07:47 <Schism> oh god
07:47 <Schism> I don't want to do Magic Man's stage. ;-;
07:52 * ConfusionRift wonders what Schism is playing.
07:54 <Schism> Rockman and Forte.
07:54 <ConfusionRift> Oh maaaaaaan.
07:55 <ConfusionRift> As who?
07:55 <Schism> Megaman, for this go.
07:55 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmm.
07:56 <ConfusionRift> Some stages are gonna be... dicey.
08:00 <Schism> Y...es. They're all BEATABLE by both, but... yeah.
08:02 <Schism> Tengu Man sufficiently drill'd.
08:02 <Schism> Oh, the most boring weapon ever.
08:04 <Schism> OH RIGHT. The enemies in Magic Man's stage SIPHON YOUR BOLTS.
08:11 <Finwe> Eating a tengu might confer teleport control. o3o
08:11 <Finwe> "You feel in control of yourself."
08:13 <Schism> ah, Magic Card. Now I can get all those powerups that were locked behind walls. o3o;
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08:52 * Schism peers through a list of movies. "Hm, Megamind is always a good one. Ooh, Zombieland."
08:56 <ConfusionRift> Not bad choices. :P
08:56 * ConfusionRift goes back to Undertale on the Switch... and notices a problem.
08:56 <Schism> I've never seen Big Trouble in Little China; perhaps I should fix that. And oh?
08:57 <ConfusionRift> Might be my controller though.
08:57 <Schism> What problem is that? o3o;
08:58 <ConfusionRift> The D Pad on the controller is a bit picky with diagonal movement. So the Papyrus fight was tricker than it should had been.
08:59 <Schism> Oh, yeah. I forget if you can use A or B to jump when you're blue.
09:00 <ConfusionRift> I fear it's gonna be an issue later on.
09:00 <Schism> If you decide to do the Sans fight, certainly. I don't think you should have too many issues with Muffin or Mettaton.
09:02 <Schism> Huh. Mark Hamill as Chucky? I guess I can see that.
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09:46 <Schism> Yes, I shall build my home... ENTIRELY OUT OF FISHTANKS!@
09:46 <Schism> -@, too.
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10:17 <Cepheid> Seems about right for you.
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10:44 * Schism eats a grilled cheese, heavy on the bread. Promptly begins to hiccup.
11:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1662 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4x62o9c ]
11:02 <ConfusionRift> Grilled cheese sounds so good right about now.
11:02 <Cepheid> Tizzy is drugged up for a blood test. She is so buzzed that when she sits, her front paws kinda just start sliding off to the side. She isn't putting any effort into staying upright.
11:03 <Schism> You should take some video of that.
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11:06 <Cepheid> Walking is worse. She takes a step, the relevant paw slides forward. Sometimes off to the side.
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11:07 <Cepheid> She knows what this state means too. She willingly climbs into the cat carrier.
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11:08 <Schism> Well, that's good at least. o3o;
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11:13 <Cepheid> This is a sad little cat. She looks stoned out of her peanut-sized gourd.
11:17 <Schism> I'm sure she'll be perfectly fine.
11:22 <Cepheid> Oh I know she will. This happens every few months as is.
11:31 <Cepheid> In other news this pillow is nice. Fell asleep far earlier than expected last night, and stayed asleep for a chsnge.
11:33 <Schism> Very nice indeed.
11:34 <RazorSharpFang> I got my car back from the repair shop. :3
11:34 <Cepheid> Gonna take a sedative to sleep some more, though. Sleep seems to be what I need for this sickness. It has been reduced to a dry hacking cough now.
11:35 <Schism> Bed rest is usually recommended, aye.
11:39 <Cepheid> Take the Ventolin, sedative. Brush teeth. Get comf- *Snoring*
11:43 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/I9xjZg9oQ73llIE/status/1161835166689480704?s=19
11:46 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.
11:50 <Cepheid> ... Oh, hey. Rifty can be the EO3 main party Yggdroid. Actual robot class for him. *notes this fown for later.*
11:51 <Cepheid> Just need to pick a subclass for him.
11:52 <Cepheid> https://etrian.fandom.com/wiki/Classes_(Etrian_Odyssey_III) All the classes. I have access to all but Shogun. Shogun requires NG+ at this point.
11:53 <Cepheid> Oh bah. you'll have to copy snd paste thr link probably.
11:53 <ConfusionRift> Nah, it opened just fine. :P
11:54 <Cepheid> One other note, subclassing provides all but the Class Skills. These are the top-modt skills jn each class.
11:54 <Cepheid> Weapon/Shirld expertise classes also unlock that weapon for use.
11:55 <Cepheid> So even though Yggdroids are limited to knives and books by default, they can use other weapon classes via an expertise skill.
11:56 <Cepheid> Yggdroids are mildly special too. Read up on them. Thrir mechanics are interesting.
11:59 <Cepheid> https://gfycat.com/splendidregalboto What the f-
12:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Episode "A Trivial Pursuit" Released Early Via iTunes [ http://tinyurl.com/y26krf5e ]
12:00 <ConfusionRift> This gives a really heavy Shadow of the Colossus vibe.
12:02 <Cepheid> It does.
12:02 <ConfusionRift> The robot's cycle of life is weird. :P
12:03 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:05 <Cepheid> Anyhoo... Yggdroid with Sleep Mode + Core Dump(Or select self-binding skills) = Great for TP-heavy classes.
12:05 <ConfusionRift> Okay, so from what I can gather from that class is that they have more limited options in terms of skills and attributes, but they compensate by having higher physical stats. It's more of how one can complement their build leading towards a sub-class.
12:07 <Cepheid> Yeah.
12:07 <Cepheid> The class by itself is somewhat weak, skill-wise.
12:08 <Cepheid> But when paired with a subclass, it is much stronger.
12:09 <Cepheid> Such as regenerating TP under certain conditions, allowing for heavy TP usage over time.
12:10 <Cepheid> Or a skill thst cuts the chance of status ailments afflicting it in half.
12:10 <Cepheid> There is also the Overheat and HP Cannon synergy.
12:11 <Cepheid> Untyped damage is hard to come across. Impossible to resist as well.
12:11 <ConfusionRift> Seems the monk and zodiac classes are more TP oriented.
12:12 <Cepheid> They are. Mage and healer, respectively.
12:13 <ConfusionRift> If going more for a rear defender, probably Zodiac. And for a frontlining heavy offensive, probably monk.
12:16 <Cepheid> So for Zodiac, aim for the Prophecy skills? If Monk, fisting skills?
12:17 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "I'm very unfamiliar with how this game works."
12:17 <ConfusionRift> Then again, a bot punching stuff is kind of a norm. :P
12:17 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:18 <Cepheid> I'll see what I can do.
12:22 <Cepheid> That said, later. I need rest right now. Also, news update on the cats.
12:22 <ConfusionRift> o_0
12:23 <Cepheid> The lumps in Tuzzy's neck are just her thyroid glands. Due to her hyperthyroidism, the will always be there.
12:23 <Cepheid> Tizzy*
12:23 <ConfusionRift> Oooh.
12:24 <Cepheid> The black one-eyed cat from yesterday morning belongs to someone in the neighborhood. It is an outdoor cat.
12:26 <Schism> Cepheid: Ah, yup, that's about what we figured yesterday. The lumps, that is. And the black cat, well. o3o
12:27 <Cepheid> Likely came to rest outside our house brcsuse of shade. Or squirrel hunting. A few live in the tree.
12:29 <Cepheid> Man this pillow combined with my sedative results in weirdness. Feels like my head is sinking below the bed while my body is still above the bed. And the world is spinning slightly.
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12:34 * Cepheid falls out of bed.
12:38 <ConfusionRift> 0_0
12:39 <ConfusionRift> It does seem those sedatives are kicking in hard. Also, the imbalance might be either the medication with the sickness, or something fluid related.
12:40 <Cepheid> Possibly both. I have inner-ear infections thanks to the pneumonia weakening the immune response to my sinuses.
12:41 <Cepheid> But that said, this is a new pillow. Memory foam. So it holds my head in place really well.
12:49 <Cepheid> Hey thar Spitty. Finally leaving Tizzy alone are we?
12:53 <Finwe> Spitfire and Tizfire. o3o
12:54 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:55 <Cepheid> Alas, I guess I won't be sleeping more.
12:56 <Cepheid> I had a strong coffee before the sedative, plus I also took my vyvanse.
12:56 <Cepheid> End-result is that the two stimulants win out.
12:56 <Cepheid> By the way, the EO3 sovereign class makes me want to make a sovereign in EON, now.
12:56 <Cepheid> Looking at the class up front, it doesn't look all that powerful.
12:57 <Cepheid> Until you realize most of it's abilities are passives, which mean no TP usage, no turn wastage on them. And many of them can be combined in a manner as to improve longevity of the party.
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12:58 <Cepheid> Currently, the party in EO3 restores 46 HP per turn so long as Cepheid is at max HP. They regenerate a good chunk of HP at the end of battle, so long as Cepheid is alive. And so long as Cepheid is alive outside of battle currently?
12:58 <Cepheid> Well, currently, each step the party takes restores 3 HP.
12:58 <Cepheid> THe maximum amount is 10.
12:59 <Cepheid> Basically, outside-party healing isn't needed as much anymore. Rare cases include members being left in critical state, or being dead, etc.
12:59 <Schism> That is an exceptionally strong skill, especially with such limited inventory space.
12:59 <Cepheid> In-battle, it cuts back on the amount of healing Schism has to do, freeing more turns for combat or using other healing spells.
12:59 <Cepheid> Combined with Rally Order and Protection Order, it's even more insane.
13:00 <Cepheid> Rally Order at level 5 increases the line's HP by a good hefty chunk. I'll have to get a percentage count, but it's enough to put Dreamer over 600 HP.
13:00 <Cepheid> Protection Order provides end-of-turn healing to the line it's used on, and it works regardless of Cepheid's health. It also stacks with the end-of-turn healing from Cepheid.
13:01 <Cepheid> So the party starts restoring 80 or so HP, and that's with the skill at level 5.
13:01 <Cepheid> It has made battles that would have been previously impossible, possible.
13:03 <Cepheid> 5 Spearhead Chips + 1 Damascus Edge... Hmm. I know where to get the chips, and I've seen an Edge, but the Edge is a conditional drop.
13:03 <Cepheid> And I don't recall what I did to make it drop. o3o
13:04 <Cepheid> Game, I am now resistant to your attempts to obfuscate stuff.
13:05 <Cepheid> Even if you don't indicate secret passages past the second stratum, I know the signs of them.
13:06 <Cepheid> But yeah, they have the Sovereign class in Nexus/Cross. It's been re-worked a slight bit, but the relevant skills are still there.
13:08 <Cepheid> Ah yes. Floors 15 and 16.
13:08 <Cepheid> The first non-secret-area example of multiple staircases on a floor.
13:08 <Cepheid> Creating a 3D maze.
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13:10 <Schism> If a simple one.
13:10 * Schism boops Lumindia with a Maggie.
13:10 <Cepheid> If I ever get off my lazy ass and finish one or more games, one of the games I make will be an EO/Wizardry clone.
13:10 <Cepheid> It'll be designed as a base engine for later use in a storyline game.
13:10 <Lumindia> with a what?
13:10 <Cepheid> It'll use simplistic resources, but everything will be there. Classes, skill trees, monsters, etc.
13:11 <Lumindia> https://i.imgur.com/uEpA2Zl.png when a tank is second in DPS
13:11 <Cepheid> What I plan to do though, is implement random mazes. In the form of configurable I by J by K cubes.
13:11 <Cepheid> With an entrance at the top, and an exit at the bottom.
13:13 <Cepheid> Also, I think the translators mistranslated a skill.
13:13 <Cepheid> Ali, our resident Arcanist, has the skill Singularity maxed out.
13:14 <Cepheid> "Damage increases when attacking an enemy's elemental weakness." When you hit said elemental weakness, it'll make a significant "DING!" sound while increasing the damage by nearly 75%, looks like.
13:14 <Cepheid> Now, this sounds like it's working right. So where's the translation issue?
13:14 * Cepheid attacks an enemy weak to bashing skills with Ali, who uses a book, which deals bash damage. *DING!* *Damage is increased.*
13:14 <Cepheid> It affects all damage types.
13:15 <Schism> Huh.
13:15 <Lumindia> '-'
13:15 * Lumindia picks up Schism, wields as a weapon
13:16 * Lumindia smacks an enemy with them
13:16 <Cepheid> *Ding!*
13:16 <Finwe> Mr Lumindia.
13:16 * Finwe doffs his hat.
13:16 <Cepheid> *2 damage*
13:16 <Lumindia> ...
13:16 <Lumindia> bah
13:16 <Cepheid> It's still a 100% increase.
13:16 <Lumindia> '-'
13:16 <Cepheid> As he normally does 1 damage.
13:16 <Lumindia> I mean
13:16 <Lumindia> Technically it's an increase...
13:16 <Lumindia> still garbo
13:17 <Cepheid> But yeah. If you're looking to do raw, unadulterated damage with a character, through basic attacks, or attacks the character has..
13:17 <Cepheid> It might be worth picking up Arcanist as a subclass for Singularity.
13:18 <Lumindia> If you boil a funny bone, it becomes a laughing stock, and that's quite humerus
13:18 * Cepheid goes into a blind rage, grabs Lumindia. "I'LL ****** KILL YOU FOR THAT YOU ******* ***HOLE!" He is pulled off of Lumindia by a number of folks.
13:19 <Lumindia> o.o
13:19 * Cepheid finds particularly bad puns to be detrimental to his mental health.
13:19 * Lumindia casts "The Ram's Voice" on Cepheid, uninterruptable
13:19 <Lumindia> [ Cepheid suffers from the effects of Deep Freeze ]
13:19 <Lumindia> [ DEEP FREEZE: Body is encase in ice, preventing movement and the use of actions ]
13:20 <Cepheid> Heh.
13:20 <Cepheid> ... "The floor gives way as you realize you've stumbled into a booby trap!" *The trap was quite clear and visible as a HOLE IN THE FLOOR. Also, walked into it intentionally as it is the secret to moving on.*
13:20 <Lumindia> The Ram's Voice is a skill used by Chimeras in XIV
13:20 <Lumindia> it's a point blank AoE that deals ice damage, and freezes the target in place for a few seconds
13:20 <Schism> Yea, but The Ram's Voice is always centered on the Chimera.
13:21 <Cepheid> Ah, that.
13:21 <Cepheid> Yeah, I remember that skill.
13:21 <Schism> The Dragon's Voice is the donut. Or am I thinking of something else?
13:21 <Lumindia> no, you're right
13:21 <Lumindia> dragon's voice is the donut
13:21 <Lumindia> then you have their 'breath' attacks, which are just their elemental stuff to one side of the other
13:21 <Lumindia> and Scorpion's Sting, which attacks targets directly behind the boss
13:22 * Lumindia looks over at teh S-Rank for Lakeland
13:22 <Lumindia> That boss's scorpion's sting does NOT mess around
13:22 <Lumindia> does like, 130k damage
13:22 <Lumindia> and it has no cast bar
13:22 <Cepheid> This "swapping back and forth between floor 15 and 16 at the start of floor 15" has a side effect.
13:22 <Cepheid> Quests and NPC conversations change when you reach a new floor.
13:23 <Schism> Lumindia: Indeeed.
13:23 <Schism> And then you have Forgiven Rebellion.
13:23 <Cepheid> So by entering floor 15, and then immediately 16, you gain access to floor 16 quests, and may miss out on conversation for floor 15.
13:23 <Lumindia> makes me glad I'm a caster main
13:23 <Schism> Hello there ROTATING 160-degree swing!
13:23 <Lumindia> x3
13:24 <Cepheid> Orange FOE.. follows.
13:24 <Cepheid> I'm going to assume you are...
13:24 <Cepheid> Yeah. Easiest danged FOE in the game.
13:24 <Schism> Deer? o3o
13:24 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, the Shredder. AKA, the frame eater. Let's see how this is.
13:24 <ConfusionRift> ...
13:25 <Cepheid> Nah. Freed Savage. Deer is actually deadlier than this thing, comparitively.
13:25 <Cepheid> I was able to defeat the Freed Savage from the start of entering the Abyssal Shrine.
13:25 <Cepheid> The Deer requires some prep work, items, equipment. Even the first FOE in the game is not a simple case.
13:26 <Cepheid> All this has going for it is a physical attack for average damage. A strong physical attack for excessive damage. And a group attack that stuns, but hits for less than ConfusionRift when he's running on triple-A batteries.
13:27 <Cepheid> Long story short, Dreamer provokes, the rest of the squad attacks, preferably with Fire elemental attacks. It'll be dead in about 4-5 turns.
13:27 <ConfusionRift> For the interest of science, gonna trigger the lunar event and use only this on the Moon Lord.
13:27 <Cepheid> Have fun.
13:29 <ConfusionRift> The Leviathan stood no chance.
13:31 <Cepheid> Hmm.
13:31 <Cepheid> That's the second of two murals of note.
13:32 <ConfusionRift> One pillar out.
13:32 <Cepheid> And there's the direct explanation of the tree being a MOTHERFRIGGEN ALIEN.
13:35 <Cepheid> The Senatus leader is a bit... rattled in the head, when you side with the Deep City.
13:35 <Cepheid> She goes back and forth between being aggressive and a semblance of politeness.
13:36 <Cepheid> She treats you as traitors one floor, then the next, she inquires about the Deep City's king, as if she were perhaps awed by him, or fawning over him. Then the next, she's back to treating you like a traitor.
13:37 <Cepheid> "Yggdrasil says it came here across a pitch-black, starry sea, far beyond these lands." Heh.
13:37 <ConfusionRift> Urgh, full inventory. Also second gone.
13:37 <Cepheid> "If we can restore peace to this world, I would like to go there as well. Would you join me?" Been there, killed ancient star-eating god.
13:39 <Cepheid> o3o; 100,000 EXP for talking to a sentient tree. I'll take that.
13:39 <ConfusionRift> Third out.
13:39 <Cepheid> Hum, that explains the discrepency.
13:40 <Cepheid> I am aware of what the fifth stratum is, and it's referenced early-on in the game, as an accessible place, despite being the fifth stratum down.
13:40 <Cepheid> It's called the Porcelain Forest, it's apparently the Royal Forest, and the princess goes there.
13:41 <Cepheid> Being the fifth stratum, one would assume that would have meant they had a means of getting down to it, but somehow missed the Deep City along the way, which is impossible.
13:41 <Cepheid> Turns out that the entrance from the forth stratum is just a left-over teleporter from when the Deep City wasn't the Deep City, and a part of Armoroad. It teleports to the Porcelain Forest.
13:42 <Cepheid> Which means the lowest depths then, are actually the Abyssal Shrine.
13:42 <ConfusionRift> Fourth out. Now, to wait for Mr. Buutface.
13:42 <Cepheid> Although treating the Shrine as the lowest depths may be wrong.
13:43 <Cepheid> The entrance to the sixth stratum is, itself, a teleporter.
13:43 <ConfusionRift> Okay... he just spawned. Let's see how fast it goes.
13:43 <Cepheid> Thus, it's possible that the sixth stratum is below the fourth stratum.
13:43 <Cepheid> G'luck.
13:44 <ConfusionRift> Done.
13:44 <Cepheid> OP weapon or what?
13:44 <ConfusionRift> I'm putting this thing away. That was stupid. :P
13:45 <ConfusionRift> It's a machine gun with low damage, but fast fire rate and scattershot. When that shotgun blast hits something, each individual shot splits into three or four.
13:46 <Cepheid> ... Well, Ali's getting even less defended now.
13:46 <Cepheid> I just got a heck of a ring from a random key item + wall inscription.
13:47 <Cepheid> Currently, Ali has... 3 + 8 + 1 + 4 = 8 + 8 = +16 TEC boost.
13:47 <Cepheid> But her defense is a paltry 109.
13:47 <Cepheid> That said, TEC boosters are useful for mages.
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13:48 <Cepheid> Unlike in the later EO games, the attack power of their weapon is not factored into magic.
13:48 <Cepheid> It's purely the TEC stat.
13:48 <Cepheid> Thus, the more TEC stacked onto the arcanist, the better.
13:51 <Cepheid> Hum, looks like that post-battle chunk of HP is 60 HP.
13:52 <Cepheid> Mm. Another coupon. Best throw this into storage for later. These allow me to buy stuff for half-off.
13:52 <ConfusionRift> But yeah. The Leviathan is kinda of a hefty thing to deal with, and I could have sworn I saw the DPS meter at 10089.
13:54 * ConfusionRift thuds. "Gonna crash for the day. Have a good one."
13:54 *** Quits: ConfusionRift (ConfusionRi@Pony-f7b.6pu.237.104.IP) (Quit: Recharging the batteries. Laters! *shutdown*)
13:55 <Cepheid> There ya go buddy, open window, open curtains.
14:00 <Cepheid> Also, I found a use for those skills that imbue weapons with elements.
14:00 <Cepheid> Turns out, weapons imbued with an elemental still do a sizeable chunk of physical damage alongside the elemental damage. And it still counts as hitting an elemental weakness for "Kill with elemental damage of X type."
14:00 <Cepheid> This works well on enemies who are resistant to the elemental damage in question, to the point where they take 1-2 damage.
14:02 <Cepheid> Hum, there's the last of the equiliteral triangle mural. Left side represents a densely packed forest, top side represents a sun and birds, right side represents people living in a city.
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14:14 <LunaticHell> gooooooooooooooood morning, equestria
14:14 <Cepheid> Hello LunaticHell, how goes it?
14:15 <LibrarianofHope> lunatic!
14:15 * LibrarianofHope glomps the lunatic
14:16 <LunaticHell> I want to say "well", but I failed to get a job that doesn't have a single requirement...
14:16 <Cepheid> Strange glowing glyph in a region overtaken by eldritch abominations and horrors. Let's touch it!
14:17 <LunaticHell> Also I failed my training to become a programmer.
14:17 <Cepheid> Oof.
14:17 <Cepheid> Well, keep working at it. Something'll come along sooner or later.
14:18 <LibrarianofHope> yep, keep trying.
14:18 <LunaticHell> I was about to begin this line with the word "well", but then I remembered what I wrote few lines ago...
14:18 <LunaticHell> And well, yeah, can't do anything less than trying, can I?
14:18 <Cepheid> Giving up is pretty completely is the start of setting yourself up to fail.
14:20 <LunaticHell> Yeah. o. o
14:21 <Cepheid> Also, how long have you been at the programming?
14:22 <LunaticHell> All in all, about 2 years.
14:23 <LunaticHell> In Germany you do 2-3 years job training to get a nationwide accepted certificate.
14:23 <LunaticHell> Something you need to officially call yourself [job title]
14:23 <Cepheid> Any way to expedite that process via a challenging test?
14:25 <LunaticHell> I could repeat the final test, but both my confidence and motivation took a dive.
14:25 <LunaticHell> How deep? About as deep as the bottom of the bottle.
14:25 <LibrarianofHope> you can do it
14:25 <Cepheid> How long do you have before you're unable to take the test again?
14:26 <LibrarianofHope> just take a rest, chillax and take another go
14:26 <LunaticHell> I can take myself time for that.
14:26 <LunaticHell> I'd rather look for a job now.
14:26 * Schism hugs a LunaticHell, and nods.
14:26 <Cepheid> Was gonna say.
14:26 <Cepheid> My suggestion?
14:26 <LunaticHell> Do tell.
14:26 <Cepheid> Ask for help with anything you think you're weak in.
14:27 <Cepheid> I've 23 years of programming behind me, in various different subfields, I don't mind assisting you in figuring out what's tricky.
14:27 <LibrarianofHope> i can do moral support
14:27 <Cepheid> 'Sides, in the real world, you're gonna ask colleagues for help anyways.
14:27 <Cepheid> So it's a good idea to get used to the idea of asking for help with stuff.
14:27 <LunaticHell> I know my weakness, it is caused by the same reason why I'd rather go work instead of retaking the test.
14:27 * LibrarianofHope gives lunatichell moral support duck
14:28 * LunaticHell pets duck
14:28 <Cepheid> What's the weakness, pray tell?
14:29 <LunaticHell> I'm 32 years old now, for the majority of my life I've been in school or training, I've learned to resent sitting behind a school table to the point where I have nightmares about school.
14:29 <Cepheid> Sorry for harassing you with 1000 questions.
14:29 <Cepheid> Ah, yeah, that problem.
14:29 <Cepheid> My only suggestion there is start talking to counselors and/or psychiatrists/psychologists.
14:29 <LunaticHell> Also: 404 error, no harrasment found
14:29 <Cepheid> There's a reason schools have them.
14:30 <LunaticHell> Well, it is a bit different in Germany.
14:30 <LunaticHell> It's technically not a school.
14:30 <Cepheid> I know.
14:30 <Cepheid> It's probably an advanced-pace program of an accredited institution?
14:30 <LunaticHell> I wouldn't call it "advanced", if you know what I mean.
14:31 <Cepheid> Okay, fast-paced.
14:31 <Cepheid> It sounds something akin to what my dad did.
14:31 <Cepheid> Went to Herzing College, which offers accelerated programs.
14:31 <Cepheid> He got his diploma as a technician in like, 2 years.
14:31 <LunaticHell> Neat.
14:31 *** Joins: Ali (Ali@Pony-cvibue.iplsin.sbcglobal.net)
14:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
14:31 <Cepheid> I'd argue he's one of their best graduates, to be honest.
14:31 <Cepheid> Anyways..
14:31 <LunaticHell> The idea behind this was "people who can't work in their job get training to do another job"
14:31 * Ali yawns, up way too early
14:31 <Cepheid> I assumed it was an accelerated thing, because no one learns programming in three years alone. Even with college or university programs that are 4-years.
14:32 <LunaticHell> 2 years
14:32 <Cepheid> Yeah, so it's definitely an accelerated program if you're getting your certificate in 2 years.
14:32 <Cepheid> That... may actually be contributing to your mood, if I'm being honest.
14:32 <LunaticHell> I failed in recalling very specific knowledge, but I managed to code a working application in C#
14:33 <Cepheid> Accelerated programs are hard, because the workload is usually much higher, due to packing a higher density of information into a shorter time frame.
14:33 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with ye man
14:33 <Cepheid> You won't recall everything. Ever.
14:33 * Ali flops over Cepheid, she managed to get a 'train' down in 90m.
14:33 <Cepheid> What they teach you in school is a good start to work with, but after that, it's self-teaching. Then self-relearning all the damned time.
14:33 <Cepheid> And schools, for the record, don't provide real-world scenarios a lot of the time.
14:34 <LunaticHell> At least I got some confidence in C#
14:34 <LibrarianofHope> this is true in most fields
14:34 <Cepheid> The applications they ask you to write are to teach you concepts. Group projects are not an example of real-world situations, and testing?
14:34 <Cepheid> Testing is annoying, since you're usually writing pen-and-paper code, and don't have access to resources you normally will have access to in the field.
14:34 <Cepheid> So the tests are biased against you.
14:34 <LunaticHell> Well, they did ask me after which model I did my thing.
14:35 <LunaticHell> I coded the thing, myself, so no model applies. o. o
14:35 <Cepheid> Not entirely.
14:35 <Cepheid> People who create applications often employ a model, either directly, or subconsciously without realizing it.
14:35 <LibrarianofHope> school or a piece of paper does not make you better at your field
14:35 <LibrarianofHope> pure practice and stuuborness
14:35 <Cepheid> For example, most UI frameworks cause the developer to work in an MVP model, even if they aren't aware that they're doing it.
14:36 * Ali noms LibrarianofHope
14:36 <LunaticHell> Well, the term "project", at least from what I learned, always indicates that it is more than 1 to work on it.
14:36 <Cepheid> Certainly helps though, LibrarianofHope.
14:36 <LunaticHell> With model I meant stuff like the waterfall model.
14:36 <Cepheid> Yes, I am aware.
14:36 <LibrarianofHope> it does, its an annoying need
14:36 <LunaticHell> Well anyway, to me the most important thing is finding a job.
14:36 <Cepheid> Right.
14:36 <LunaticHell> Also this is where I envy americans.
14:36 <Cepheid> Anything after that point is whatever you want to do.
14:37 <Cepheid> How so?
14:37 <LunaticHell> I could start working in an american company without actually having finished this training, only based on the fact that I can write C# well.
14:37 <LunaticHell> In Germany they want to see the paper, please.
14:37 <Cepheid> Oh trust me, many companies here are becoming more "Want to see the paper, please."
14:38 <Cepheid> There's a few exceptions.
14:38 <Finwe> Miss Ali, Messrs Cepheid, LibrarianofHope, LunaticHell and Schism.
14:38 * Finwe doffs his hat.
14:38 <Cepheid> But those exceptions are *RARE*.
14:38 <LibrarianofHope> mexico is just a fustercluck
14:38 * Finwe also hugs a LunaticHell.
14:38 * LunaticHell hugs a Finwe
14:38 <Cepheid> And you really, really, *REALLY* need to be good at your job.
14:38 <LunaticHell> Long time no seen, fren.
14:38 <Finwe> Indeed.
14:38 <LunaticHell> I can write in C# like a madman. o. o
14:38 <Cepheid> For example, I have 23 years of experience of programming.
14:38 <Cepheid> But without the degree, no one will talk to me.
14:38 <LunaticHell> Harsh.
14:38 <Ali> Eeyup
14:39 <LibrarianofHope> thtas why im just selftaught.
14:39 <LunaticHell> I'd employ you, if I had the money.
14:39 * Ali spots a wild RazorSharpFang, pokes furiously
14:39 <LibrarianofHope> school here also has more functioning alcoholics than an AA metting
14:39 <LunaticHell> Niiice.
14:39 <LibrarianofHope> im sick to my core of dealing with party bros
14:39 <Cepheid> I think that can be said for all of North America, LibrarianofHope.
14:40 * Ali doth not drink
14:40 <LunaticHell> You haven't yet met me, a >well< functioning alcoholic.
14:40 <Cepheid> I meant, functioning alcoholics in all the schools, Ali.
14:40 <LibrarianofHope> the drinking part i dont mind
14:40 <LibrarianofHope> its the overbearing idiots demanding i partake in their idiocy
14:41 <Finwe> Ali: How do you hydrate yourself, then? Isotonic brine directly into veins?
14:41 <LunaticHell> Yeah that sounds bad.
14:42 * Ali boops Finwe, he knows what she means
14:42 <LibrarianofHope> im very open minded, i dont care what others do so long as others dont get hurt
14:42 * Finwe scrunchymuzzles at Ali.
14:43 <Cepheid> LunaticHell: In any case, C# isn't a bad language to go with these days.
14:43 <Cepheid> It's getting more and more cross-platform support, thanks due in part by the Mono team, and the .NET Core and associated projects.
14:43 <LunaticHell> I mean I can technically also do java and whatever macros are written in, but C# is my bae.
14:43 <Cepheid> I'd legitimately argue that it's becoming a reasonable competitor to C++ as a result.
14:43 <Cepheid> And especially Java.
14:44 <Cepheid> Only thing against it, that makes widespread adoption harder, is the "LOL MICROSOFT!" mentality of the Apple and Linux communities.
14:45 <Cepheid> And UI stuff.
14:45 <Cepheid> But even that's changing.
14:45 <LunaticHell> Indeed.
14:45 <Cepheid> .NET Core 3 implements WinForms and WPF. While neither work on anything other than Windows right now...
14:45 <LunaticHell> I had fun coding an application with GUI.
14:45 <Cepheid> Well, I'm in the process of slowly making a native C# .NET binding for the X11 protocol.
14:46 <LunaticHell> Now that sounds like something for me.
14:46 <Cepheid> That is, a binding using only C# and .NET CLS-compliant types and classes. And no P/Invoke.
14:46 <Cepheid> So it'd be usable without the "unsafe code" sections.
14:46 <LunaticHell> And here I was worried that I had to learn ruby to make rpg maker games for steam to make a living.
14:46 <LunaticHell> I shudder. o. o
14:46 <Cepheid> Also, .NET Standard 2.0, so it works under .NET Framework or .NET Core, no problem.
14:46 <LibrarianofHope> that part i can helps
14:46 <LibrarianofHope> i can help make a cool story
14:47 <LunaticHell> Well first step is waiting for the rpgmaker vx to be on sale, and I've seen in on sale a couple of times.
14:47 <LunaticHell> Like a 95% reduction
14:48 <LunaticHell> I love steam, have I mentioned that?
14:48 <Cepheid> You and millions of other folks.
14:49 <Cepheid> Dang, all this talk of coding makes me want to stop relaxing and code.
14:49 <Cepheid> Maybe I should do a little bit today.
14:51 <LunaticHell> hehe
14:51 <LunaticHell> Well, I'm an idea kinda guy. That always sounds bad.
14:51 <LunaticHell> Anyhow I do remember a game from my childhood. o. o
14:52 * Schism turns up his nose at LunaticHell. "I see there's a new coder in town. Well, don't you bother trying to outshine US. All the commissions are ours."
14:52 * LunaticHell hugs
14:52 <Schism> All the ones worth taking, anyway.
14:52 * Schism codes a Tuk-Tuk.
14:52 <Cepheid> Hum.
14:52 <Cepheid> I really should have gone to the clinic today.
14:52 <LunaticHell> Well, that game was pretty wild, for a point and click adventure game.
14:52 <Cepheid> Just went to the washroom, before I walked out, I took a look at my mouth and throat. This is after brushing, by the way.
14:53 <Cepheid> There's a lot of white on the back of my tongue, and my throat doesn't look too good.
14:53 <Schism> LunaticHell, eh? Er, I'm talking about My Time at Portia. o3o;
14:53 * Schism also blinks at Cepheid. "Um, hm. That's perhaps a good reason to visit the clinic, yeah."
14:53 <LunaticHell> Where the only rifle was replaced by a watergun looking kinda thing?
14:53 <LunaticHell> Good game.
14:54 * Cepheid checks his presto card.
14:54 <Cepheid> $11.35. Enough for two rides.
14:54 <Schism> No transfer?
14:54 * Schism boops LunaticHell.
14:55 <LunaticHell> How wild was the game? It actually told me which famous historical person was a freemason in the glossery
14:55 <LunaticHell> Apperently Beethoven. o. o
14:55 <Cepheid> Oh, transfers are viable.
14:55 <Cepheid> Just the wait at the clinic would be... yeah.
14:55 <Schism> Ah, yeah, so not one to rely upon.
14:55 <Cepheid> I'll leave in a bit. My phone needs recharging.
14:56 <Cepheid> 45 minutes should give it enough of a charge.
14:58 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, why the X11?
14:59 * Ali boops RazorSharpFang
15:00 <RazorSharpFang> Hey Ali. I got my car back from the repair shop
15:00 * Ali didn't know RazorSharpFang drove and had a car
15:00 <RazorSharpFang> I bet you also didn't know that I invest in the stock market.
15:01 * Ali also boops RazorSharpFang more cause the reactor blueprint in Factorio is mucking her up
15:01 <RazorSharpFang> You don't have to use nuclear power if you don't want to.
15:01 <Ali> Its the best power source in the game
15:02 <Finwe> A lot of booping going on here today.
15:02 <Ali> Steam stinks otherwise and solar's ratio to accumulators to panels annoys me
15:02 * Ali boops Finwe, she does a lot of the boopin
15:02 * Finwe scrunchymuzzles again.
15:03 <RazorSharpFang> Ali, yeah, but you learn to live with it. Nuclear's a pain trying to scale up to gigawatts.
15:03 <Ali> How so?
15:03 <RazorSharpFang> Transporting enough water
15:03 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: 'Cause it's the lowest level. Everything else can be built off of it.
15:03 <RazorSharpFang> Ah, so the foundation
15:03 <Cepheid> Yes.
15:04 <Cepheid> I'm using the XCB approach. Using the xcb-proto XML files to generate all the code.
15:04 <Ali> Nuke power is also more stable than either, requiring only water to keep it going
15:04 <Cepheid> Which is a bit tricky, since despite being a system that's meant to be platform agnostic, it relies on C functionality.
15:05 <Ali> And the game is pretty good now at spawning water RazorSharpFang
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15:06 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, but as your reactor expands, you either have to build it on water, or train in water.
15:07 <Ali> RazorSharpFang, I don't think I've ever had a map need more than one reactor blueprint
15:08 <RazorSharpFang> Wait, you mean a 1x1 (40MW) or a 2x2(480MW) ?
15:10 <Ali> 2x2
15:13 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJsNSC8x-5s
15:13 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
15:13 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Etrian Odyssey Nexus - Music: Unrest - Twilight of All Life
15:14 <LunaticHell> Oh yeah I got a fun story about a thing I coded
15:14 * Finwe noms on LunaticHell.
15:15 <LunaticHell> I was supposed to code that the result of a thing would be saved as a file, if said file name already existed, it was supposed to name it "filename_x" with x being a number
15:15 <LunaticHell> I thought "while sounds good for this"
15:16 <LunaticHell> I forgot to add the line to leave the while loop if it was successful
15:16 <LunaticHell> I accidentally saved about 5000 copies of the file o. o
15:17 <Finwe> for x in {1..n} do `echo $result >> filename_$x`; done
15:17 <Finwe> Oops, no ``, of course.
15:17 <Finwe> How silly of me.
15:18 * Finwe hats on Ali.
15:18 * Ali squeaks
15:18 <LunaticHell> o. o
15:18 <LunaticHell> Also hi Ali, long time no seen.
15:18 * Ali wavies
15:19 <LunaticHell> I may be doing bad, but everytime I see a fren, I feel like a french theatre piece.
15:19 <LunaticHell> Less miserable
15:19 * Finwe fails to be amused.
15:20 <Finwe> Tough audience tonight. o3o
15:20 <LunaticHell> I can't fault them. o. o
15:27 * Finwe patpats LunaticHell.
15:27 <LunaticHell> =w =
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15:35 * Cepheid dons his coding knuckles. Starts smashing code rapidly.
15:38 <Cepheid> Oh, hey, Lumindia. You still around?
15:38 <Lumindia> depends
15:39 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3l6O3Gw1eg
15:39 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
15:39 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Their Own Brand of Justice (Etrian Odyssey III) - GaMetal Remix
15:39 <Cepheid> Ah, wait. That wasn't the track I thought you liked. Either way, it's good.
15:39 <Cepheid> I forgot you liked... what was it..?
15:40 <Cepheid> Ah, Detestable Name.
15:41 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEeMIUy7u_U Ah. There's an Ayahuasca remix though.
15:41 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
15:42 <Cepheid> Oh, huh.
15:42 <Cepheid> Apparently it's the true final godd's boss theme.
15:42 <Cepheid> ... Wait, if that's- Why's there a remix for Nexus?
15:42 <Cepheid> Oh gods, don't tell me it appears in Nexus.
15:45 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Ayahuasca - 10 - Disturbances - Calling That Detestable Name
15:45 <Cepheid> Schism, I think Atlus may have gone Time Eater on the Etrian Odyssey series
15:47 <Schism> Y'mean the Time Devourer, from Chrono Trigger?
15:47 <Cepheid> Time Devourer, Time Eater, etc.
15:48 <Cepheid> Point is, I suspect the true final boss of EO3 might actually be somehow related to the nature of Nexus.
15:49 <Cepheid> There's actually one outcome I did not consider with EO3.
15:50 <Cepheid> There's actually three binary flags for the story: 1) Which NPC you save in the Grotto. 2) Which city you side with. 3) Does the player's guild face and kill the true final boss?
15:52 <Cepheid> Four, if you include whether or not a NG+ is done.
15:52 <Cepheid> So there's a possible 16 outcomes.
15:52 <Schism> Five, if you count the player defenestrating their nDS.
15:53 * Schism coughs. "But yes."
15:53 <Cepheid> Heh.
15:53 <Cepheid> It's entirely possible that Atlus could have taken the simple route.
15:53 <Cepheid> The true final boss either won in the battle against the guild, or the guild never attempted it.
15:53 <LibrarianofHope> black library is taking submissions owo
15:53 <LibrarianofHope> and i just had an idea
15:54 * Cepheid shrugs. "I guess I'll just have to obliterate the boss."
15:55 * Schism gets two lines again, and a Wind-Up Zhloe.
15:56 * Schism feeds her Wind-Up Pineapple Pudding.
15:58 <Cepheid> Hum. And there's the special door.
15:59 * Ali flops over Schism
16:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: MLP Villain Music: D1SCORDANT - Tartarus [Industrial Metal] [ http://tinyurl.com/y2lho6yz ]
16:03 <Schism> Wind crystals are on for the cheap right now, heh.
16:05 <Cepheid> Doesn't feel right to be treating an equal-level stratum FOE as just a roadbump easier than the conventional encounters.
16:10 * Surreal_Nightmares lays on Ali on Schism!
16:10 *** Surreal_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
16:10 * Filly_Nightmares nom nom nomfs Ali ears
16:13 <Schism> Oh good god.
16:13 <Schism> [NOVICE]I. B.: my ninja qitana ravel is wearing 290 gear and 240 accessories
16:14 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:15 <Schism> By way of explanation, 290 gear is the /very baseline/ for completing Stormblood. Not the post-Stormblood quests, just the base expansion. 390 is the most common iLvl for going through the beginning of Shadowbringers. 290/240 means that the ninja literally dies in one hit.
16:16 <Schism> i360 gear is required to even beat the expansion.
16:17 <Cepheid> ...
16:17 <Cepheid> Did I seriously put the stratum boss to sleep?
16:17 <Schism> Makes sense. Is it a cerberus?
16:18 * Filly_Nightmares noms Schism ears
16:18 <Cepheid> I'm honestly not sure what it is. The entity is called Shin, but that name translates to so danged much.
16:18 * Filly_Nightmares hunger
16:18 <Cepheid> If I had to guess though, based on it's appearance, and one of the many translations..
16:18 <Cepheid> "Goddess"
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16:21 <Schism> Hm. Wiki says likely a mistranslation of 'Shen', a Chinese clam monster which produces mirages.
16:22 <Cepheid> That'd explain the appearance and skills.
16:22 <Schism> And turns into a dragon.
16:22 <Cepheid> Ironically, her two most dangerous moves are the ones that cause confusion and...
16:22 <Cepheid> That Cold Stare attack.
16:22 <Ali> That Cold Stare, frozen instantly
16:23 <Schism> Interesting skillset she has.
16:23 <Cepheid> Close enough.
16:23 <Cepheid> Causes ice damage to the entire party. The rest of her attacks either increase her defense, or apply a debuff to the party.
16:24 <Cepheid> In any case, not ready to fight her yet
16:26 <Cepheid> Need to unlock all the goodies to fight with.
16:28 <Ali> So are you slowplaying or is that game REALLY that slow?
16:28 <Schism> Etrian Odyssey is really that slow.
16:28 <Cepheid> It really is that slow, yeah.
16:28 <Cepheid> It's a difficult game, and because of it's mechanics, it can take it's sweet time.
16:29 <Cepheid> In fact, the speed I'm playing at is above the average speed.
16:35 <Cepheid> Right, phone's charged. I'm gonna get dressed and head out to the clinic.
16:47 <Cepheid> Mother has offered to drive me to the clinic.
16:50 <Schism> Ah, excellent.
16:51 * Schism hats on Lumindia for a sec, wearing Star Velvet Himation of Healing.
16:51 <Lumindia> o.o
16:51 <Schism> Star Velvet Himations of Casting/Healing look _good._
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17:00 <Lumindia> that's just the ghost baroque stuff
17:00 <Lumindia> :V
17:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Mare to Mare / Lullaby 18 / AoS 4:12 / Dan 2:9 / Love is Magic 65-67 [ http://tinyurl.com/y43ahegp ]
17:00 <Lumindia> well the hood is
17:01 <Schism> Yes, but this can be dyed, so nyah.
17:01 <Schism> And nah, the healing set is a bit different.
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17:22 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSRbX9bztpk > Squeenix, when will we get this one for an Orchestrion Roll?
17:22 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
17:22 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about FFXIV OST Mount BGM ( The Rider's Boon )
17:23 <Cepheid> Already waiting for doc in room.
17:25 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/gargantucast/status/1161991234996658176?s=19
17:28 <LibrarianofHope> he doesnt only block, he just poses , becuase he can
17:28 * LibrarianofHope salutes
17:28 <Finwe> o7
17:28 <Finwe> Mr LibrarianofHope.
17:28 * Filly_Nightmares eees
17:29 <Finwe> I should probably abandon my thesis for a while and go shopping for some groceries.
17:29 <Finwe> See you later, everypony!
17:29 <LibrarianofHope> im writing a teaser of an Adeptus Mechanicus novel for the submmission thing they are opening next week
17:30 <LibrarianofHope> i came up with a heck of a good plot idea just know, migh actually work
17:30 <LibrarianofHope> im not using my own material, so its at least risk free
17:31 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/resurrectiongoj/status/1161814060939259904?s=19 Schism o3o!!
17:33 * Filly_Nightmares skrees
17:33 * Filly_Nightmares bounces at Cepheid excitedly!
17:40 <Cepheid> Hmm?
17:50 <Cepheid> Yep. Something in my lungs still and both ears infected up the wazoo.
17:57 * Filly_Nightmares wigglewaggles and rolls onto her back for food
18:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Comic Dub Compilation #41 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4q3nkqj ]
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18:04 <LibrarianofHope> finished the sample
18:05 * Filly_Nightmares meow
18:06 <LibrarianofHope> need to refine it, make the character bios and send it on the 28
18:06 <LibrarianofHope> might actually win, least it was fun to make
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18:09 * Filly_Nightmares eees at Lumi for foods
18:13 <Cepheid> Good ole amoxiclav.
18:14 <Cepheid> You've never failed me.
18:17 * Lumi pats Surry
18:17 * Lumi feeds tacos
18:21 <Cepheid> Time to get my first end-game piece of gear.
18:23 <Cepheid> Thanks game, for making that character not go first. Really needed that.
18:26 <Cepheid> That time went better. There, Trembling Fin.
18:27 <Cepheid> 379 ATK to ... 471. Not bad, for a Monk.
18:28 <Cepheid> 126,500en needed.
18:32 <Cepheid> Looks like a typical harvest run gets me 25,000 to 30,000. Not bad.
18:39 * LibrarianofHope flops on cepheid
18:39 * Filly_Nightmares nom nom noms Lumi and taco!
18:39 <LibrarianofHope> mind overload
18:39 <LibrarianofHope> i live here now
18:39 * Cepheid infects LibrarianofHope.
18:44 * LibrarianofHope becomes a mushroom
18:46 * Cepheid carefully transplants LibrarianofHope in a mushroom cavern.
18:49 * Filly_Nightmares purr
19:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: Starlight hooks up with someone by the end of the show! Who is it? [ http://tinyurl.com/y5v4rvl2 ]
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19:19 <LibrarianofHope> uhhh a luna
19:19 * LibrarianofHope polishes moon pone
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19:36 <KooK> !seen thelema5
19:36 <DerpyBot> KooK: The last time I saw thelema5 was 2019-07-28 22:04:56 UTC
19:39 * Cepheid puts away game for a bit. Is feeling bleh.
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19:50 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: China Back At It - Episode 21 Floating Around [ http://tinyurl.com/y2evg8xz ]
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20:03 <Finwe> Good evening, everypony.
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20:03 <Finwe> Mr KooK.
20:03 * Finwe doffs his hat.
20:03 <KooK> Finnish
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20:05 <Finwe> Mijnheer Bubs.
20:05 * Finwe doffs his hat.
20:06 <Bubs> mr. Finwe
20:06 <Cepheid> Finwe.
20:06 <Finwe> Mr Cepheid.
20:06 * Finwe doffs his hat.
20:06 <Cepheid> You Finnish folk wouldn't happen to have a cure for pneumonia, would you?
20:07 <LibrarianofHope> beer
20:08 <Finwe> LibrarianofHope: Not really.
20:08 <Finwe> There is an old proverb saying that if tar, spirits and sauna won't help, the disease is lethal.
20:09 <Finwe> I think I'll watch an Hercule Poirot film before going to bed.
20:09 <Finwe> o3o
20:10 <Finwe> "Murder on the Links"
20:10 * Finwe throws a golf ball at KooK.
20:10 <Finwe> "Fore!"
20:10 <KooK> Bad Finwe
20:13 * LibrarianofHope hits kook with golf club
20:14 <KooK> The hell
20:14 * KooK grabs golf club and runs after LibrarianofHope
20:14 * LibrarianofHope flies away
20:15 * KooK line drives a golf ball straight into LibrarianofHope's left buttcheek
20:15 <LibrarianofHope> flying book, aint got no booty
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20:34 <PinkieShy> Another day another hot hot hot day. >_<
20:35 <DashedRainbows> Luckily it's not as hot as usual here
20:37 * DashedRainbows sniffs PinkieShy. Hmm roasted horse
20:39 * Reiko shut the door
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21:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Twilight & The Book of Magic Music: Zephysonas - Ghostly Compendium [Experimental/Ambient] [ http://tinyurl.com/y6oy6r6j ]
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21:19 * Filly_Nightmares squishies under Ali
21:19 * Filly_Nightmares eees ta Golden!
21:19 * Ali mango's Filly_Nightmares
21:19 <Golden> Hehe
21:20 * Filly_Nightmares nom noms Ali and kneads mango into Golden!
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21:23 <Golden> Silly Filly_Nightmares
21:23 * Filly_Nightmares eees and flops onto her back!
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23:36 * Cepheid awakens from unexpected nap. Noms sandwich, oatmeal, hot lemon, sedatives. Goes back to laying down, wheezing and coughing.
23:38 * Filly_Nightmares curls up wif Cepheid
23:40 * Cepheid mumbles and groans. Tosses and turns as he gets comfy.
23:44 <Lumindia> https://twitter.com/KeatonPatti/status/1108927566658916352?s=20
23:44 <Lumindia> this is a mood
23:45 * Filly_Nightmares meow
23:45 * Lumindia pats Surry, feeds french fries
23:45 * Filly_Nightmares nom nom noms and lickies Lumindia nosie
23:45 <Lumindia> that tickles!
23:45 * Lumindia boops Surry's snoot
23:45 * Filly_Nightmares eeees and lickies Lumindia cheekies!
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23:46 * Filly_Nightmares purr
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23:54 <Cepheid> "Ten Krabby Patricks, extra Patrick. I pay with the money of Patrick.". XD
23:57 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/KeatonPatti/status/1161699626325598210?s=19
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