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00:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: The Toys That Made Us Season 3: My Little Pony Episode Releases November 15th, 2019 [ http://tinyurl.com/y59jm266 ]
00:33 <Schism> Thumderstorm~
00:36 * Schism offers the Cepheid some buttermilk pancakes with apricot jam.
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01:46 <uni> it has been too long
01:46 * Schism places Filly_Nightmares on butter uni.
01:48 * Filly_Nightmares yawnskrees at Schism and licks Butter Uni lazily
01:49 * Filly_Nightmares meows and rolls onto her back
01:49 * Schism provides scritchies. Also, pancakes.
01:50 * Filly_Nightmares eees and curls up around pancake!
01:52 * Filly_Nightmares climbs onto Schism wif pancake
01:52 * Schism fills the pancake with apricot jam and bacon.
01:52 <Schism> Or there are blini!
01:53 <Schism> Cheese and apricot blini. o3o
01:55 <uni> ooh
01:55 * uni nosies at Filly_Nightmares too
01:56 * Filly_Nightmares sneezies and then brings Butter Uni onto Schism and then wraps the pancake around him!
02:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1908 [ http://tinyurl.com/y56kvlf3 ]
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02:34 * uni squeaks, is pancake-burrito-pone!
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02:53 * Ali flops over Schism
02:55 * Schism frowns at his plants. "Onion Prince seeds dyed. That's okay, they were only a stand-in for Jute."
02:55 <Schism> died*
02:57 * Ali dyes Schism to look like a reformed ling
02:59 * Schism bounds over and licks Ali like a hyperactive puppy.
03:00 * Ali squeaks
03:00 <Schism> Ali: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE35-75rxqY
03:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Show Song Remix: Daniel Ingram - Best Friends Until the End of Time (NeverLastStanding & Paloris Remix) [Electro House] [ http://tinyurl.com/y37c3hj8 ]
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04:17 * Ali squeaks at DashedRainbows
04:17 <DashedRainbows> So cute
04:18 * Ali puffycheeks instantly, not cute
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04:25 <DashedRainbows> You tend to squeak, I tend to call ponies cute
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05:05 <PinkieShy> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDkcTeGXUAE2h83?format=jpg&name=large earlier today.
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06:00 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBArXz3cWos > Final boss hiding behind a fortress of bulkheads, well away from the fight? That's okay. When everything else fails, use spear. And if that don't work, use more spear.
06:00 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
06:04 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Nanoha StrikerS Exelion Mode - Blaster 3 Divine BUSTER!!
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07:35 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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07:39 <Schism> 13th of September for the NewGame+ of CrossCode. Bleh.
07:39 <ConfusionRift> At least we're not that far off.
07:40 * Schism nodnods.
07:43 <Schism> Poor Florence. http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1900/fc01856.htm
07:46 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.
07:48 * ConfusionRift feels some deja vu.
08:05 <ConfusionRift> Wait... what?!
08:05 <Schism> Wurp?
08:05 <Schism> Oh, also, ConfusionRift, pipes in Factorio will now glow when heated by, say, superhot fluids.
08:06 <ConfusionRift> In Super Metroid, there's a button combo you can do to restore your health using ammo. I had no idea.
08:06 * ConfusionRift never needed it.
08:06 <Schism> Oh! Yeah, that's exceedingly tricky and rarely comes up.
08:06 <ConfusionRift> Just watching someone do a reverse run, and he used it on Norfair.
08:07 <Schism> The Crystal Flash...
08:07 <Schism> If you get hit while you're doing it, Samus has no iframes.
08:11 <ConfusionRift> "Samus is unable to perform the technique in other games despite its importance."
08:11 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, kind of a retcon.
08:11 <Schism> Maybe she realized that it's a really bad idea when you're surrounded by space pirates.
08:12 <ConfusionRift> It would had been nice in some other games, where they like to wear someone thin till the next save point.
08:13 <ConfusionRift> Oh, one of the game demo clips shows her doing it.
08:13 <Schism> Hm. Randomly, have I shown you the most horrible scene in an FF game, ever, ConfusionRift?
08:13 <Schism> I'm kinda tired right now, so don't remember if I have.
08:14 <ConfusionRift> Is it that infamous nightmare fuel from FF8?
08:14 <Schism> FF14.
08:14 <ConfusionRift> Ooh, nope.
08:15 <Schism> Okay. Spoiler alert: this is horrible. And probably belongs in Resident Evil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cqwZbjk43s
08:19 <ConfusionRift> Yeah... this is some Resident Evil stuff.
08:20 <Schism> Yeah. And it gets even worse later on in the story.
08:21 <Schism> It's kinda sorta impressive that they turned Final Fantasy into THAT.
08:23 <Schism> ConfusionRift, then, during the first actual dungeon of Shadowbringers, we get to fight her. Tesleen, the Forgiven.
08:24 <ConfusionRift> Urgh. Yeah, saw the comments and everyone is expecting pain from that point on.
08:24 <Schism> It's really, really good storytelling.
08:28 <ConfusionRift> Still. Then again, I'm not playing it.
08:28 <Schism> Yeah, you'd have to go through way too much nonsense to get to the good stuff anyway.
08:29 * ConfusionRift wonders what to actually play.
08:29 <Schism> Did you pick up Celeste last week?
08:31 <ConfusionRift> Nope. As I said earlier, I'm afraid my lower patience limit as of late might make the game a mess for me. I also didn't have the account to get it.
08:32 <ConfusionRift> I'm at the point of wondering how I beat Hollow Knight and Rabi Ribi.
08:33 <ConfusionRift> Well, not beat. The final final boss in Hollow Knight is... yeah...
08:33 <Schism> All told, it probably would.. hrm.
08:33 <Schism> well, there are always ROMs and the emulation thereof. While frustrating, well...
08:34 <Schism> Old SNES, Genesis and the like games do have a certain je ne sais quoi which makes them more palatable to those of a certain age.
08:35 <ConfusionRift> Heeeeeey. :P
08:35 <ConfusionRift> But I do agree.
08:35 <Schism> Did I neglect to include myself? :P
08:35 <ConfusionRift> hehehe.
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08:36 <Schism> Come to think, at some point I should replay Terranigma.
08:37 <Schism> Or just Illusion of Gaia.
08:37 * ConfusionRift notices Mothergunship. "There's a reason why this game hasn't been played in a while."
08:38 <Schism> Because it's terrible? X3
08:38 <ConfusionRift> Okay, it isn't super bad, but it get frustrating.
08:39 <Schism> Yeah, but so does Gradius.
08:39 <ConfusionRift> Well, I can kinda do Gradius... except finishing it. I struggle with that.
08:40 <Schism> You're not exactly breaking my thesis here.
08:40 <ConfusionRift> Like that middle-finger section where you're required to fight your ship in tight spaces. A pixel off means losing a life.
08:42 <Jackie> What would bat pony music sound like?
08:42 <ConfusionRift> In Gradius defense, it's an arcade game. It's done on purpose. Mothergunship is supposed to have more to it, yet it falls on the TBoI syndrome fast at times.
08:42 <Schism> I seem to recall that.
08:42 <Schism> Jackie: eeeEEEeeEeeEEee.
08:42 <ConfusionRift> Schism: It's a sped up scrolling section, with emphasis in SPED UP.
08:42 <Schism> Weaponized theremins.
08:42 <Jackie> Studying bat pony culture
08:43 <Schism> Strangely, my response to two questions at once are exactly the same.
08:43 <Schism> But yeah. :<
08:44 <ConfusionRift> In any case, you know that point in TBoI when you get no keys, no bombs, have to deal with elite bosses, and the treasure rooms are filled with useless items.
08:44 <Schism> I've never played The Binding of Isaac that far.
08:45 <Schism> I do, however, know that point in Rabi-Ribi where I was left with all of those constraints.
08:45 <Schism> So let's call it 'yes, with a but'.
08:46 <ConfusionRift> After beating it for the 4th(?) time, you unlock hard mode. More elite enemies and bosses show up.
08:46 <Schism> Ah, NG+ restrictions.
08:46 <ConfusionRift> And I don't wanna talk about ??? and Delirium.
08:47 <ConfusionRift> Those are garbage.
08:47 <Schism> Optional, unlockable bosses, I take it.
08:48 <ConfusionRift> ??? is optional, sorta. Delirium is supposed to be a final final final boss... but it's also locked under RNG.
08:48 <ConfusionRift> You can get to it after beating ??? the first time. After that, it's random.
08:49 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait... sorry, not ???. It's Hush.
08:49 <Schism> That sounds familiar, to be honest. I could swear I've seen that in another game or two..
08:49 <ConfusionRift> ??? is just Isaac 2.1.
08:50 <ConfusionRift> Schism: Which?
08:51 <Schism> Oh, the final boss unlocked under RNG... I'm not sure.
08:52 <Schism> Etrian Odyssey certainly has some drops which qualify, but that's not quite the same thing.
08:52 <ConfusionRift> Hush can only be fought by beating Mom's Heart under a specific time limit. The portal to Delirium should show up that first time after beating it. Then, it's just RNG, with the later bosses having a greater chance of spawning a portal.
08:52 <Schism> But a part of my brain is going, 'Hey, there was an RNG-unlocked superboss in this game series'.
08:52 <Schism> Egh..
08:53 <Schism> Maybe it's Risk of Rain I'm thinking of.
08:54 <ConfusionRift> Yap. That really painful corner boss that shows in the volcanic stage. And then there's the creature thing that has a chance of spawning in one of the iterations of the aquatic ruins.
08:55 * Schism screams in maniacal thirds.
08:55 <ConfusionRift> Everything in Risk of Rain 1 is RNG, really.
08:55 <Schism> Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.
08:56 <Schism> At least I know where my absurdist nightmares originate.
08:56 <ConfusionRift> but unlike TBoI, you CAN have fun with the artifacts. They could make the game either tolerable, or just really painful.
08:56 <Schism> Or, they could just render your run a living hellscape.
08:57 <ConfusionRift> Like making enemies drop mines after killing them? :P
08:57 <ConfusionRift> Or making everything an elite?
08:57 <Schism> Yuuuuuuup.
08:58 <Finwe> Good forenoon, everypony!
08:59 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Mr Schism.
08:59 <Finwe> o7
08:59 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
09:00 <ConfusionRift> Schism: Activating them all and beating the final boss is... eeerm... how do you say... a turdfest?
09:00 <Schism> I've never even come close to doing that, so I couldn't say.
09:01 <ConfusionRift> If I remember correctly, there's an extra phase by doing that.
09:01 <Schism> That having been said, I've just downloaded the first three series of Nanoha. I believe the protagonists basically pulled that off.
09:02 * ConfusionRift is getting flashbacks of him beating Planet Robobot's ultimate arena.
09:03 * Schism randomly provides ConfusionRift with a copy of Nanoha Takamachi and Fate Testarossa engaged in glorious combat.
09:05 <ConfusionRift> Okay... I'm done, and TIME! (gets sucked in by Star Dream, a familiar tune plays) Excuse me?! (dies) WHAT?!
09:06 * Schism watches the start of Lyrical Nanoha again, and snrrrrks. "Oh, gods, this is horrible to watch knowing what bad things happen to the protagonist."
09:06 <Schism> And to the poor antagonist.
09:07 <ConfusionRift> Ananimine?
09:08 <Schism> The protagonist of "Lyrical Nanoha" -- the eponymous Nanoha -- discovers that she's a highly proficient spellcaster, and is drawn into the galactic military because of it.
09:09 <Schism> This turns out to be a bit of a problem considering that she's ELEVEN YEARS OLD.
09:10 <Schism> Kinda turns into a bit of a deconstruction of the Magical Girl thing.
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09:31 <Cepheid> That time of year, is it NISA? They're releasing a two-in-one game for the consoles early next year. Seeing news of them compells me to play them again from the start. Mulbruk calls to me, to solve the mysteries again. o3o
09:35 <ConfusionRift> ...NISA?
09:35 <Cepheid> NIS America.
09:35 <Cepheid> Publisher of Disgaea.
09:35 <Cepheid> And developer.
09:36 <ConfusionRift> Ah, right. Which games?
09:37 <Schism> <Nanoha, running away from an exploded street> Maybe I shouldn't stay here for now...
09:38 <Cepheid> La-Mulana and La-Mulana 2.
09:38 <ConfusionRift> Huh.
09:40 <Cepheid> Apparently a 2-in-1 pack for various consoles, of which the Switch is one target. I knew LM2 was being released for the Switch, but to find it's part of a 2-in-1 pack including the original game is a bit interesting.
09:42 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/dndmemes/comments/czdmjz/dragon_tax/?st=k052booo&sh=7b68681b
09:42 <Cepheid> But yeah, the LM series in general is known for driving me up a wall, along the ceiling, into the fourth dimension, and under a trap.
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09:49 <Cepheid> The strongest memories I have of the first game are...
09:50 <Cepheid> Town. Endless Corridor. Eden. Access to That Which Must Remain Unseen. Moon Temple.
09:51 <Cepheid> Oh, Rifty.
09:51 <Cepheid> MHWorld Iceborne, Zinogre, Rajang are introduced.
09:51 <Cepheid> Or will be eventually.
09:53 <ConfusionRift> The super saiyan monkey is back!
09:53 <Cepheid> Alas, I won't be able to fight it in World until next year, myself.
09:54 <Cepheid> Iceborne's release date for PC is in January 2020.
09:54 <Finwe> Mr Cepheid.
09:54 * Finwe doffs his hat.
09:54 <Cepheid> Ironically that is a more seasonal time for release.
09:54 <Cepheid> And hey Finwe.
09:56 <Finwe> Hullo.
09:57 * Finwe hats on Filly_Nightmares.
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09:58 <Schism> ConfusionRift, here I am watching Lyrical Nanoha again, which would be perfectly reasonable except for the fact that a very large number of very bad things happen to the protagonists.
09:59 * Filly_Nightmares nomfs Finwe tail!
10:00 * Finwe tail-wiggles!
10:00 <Finwe> !plot
10:00 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
10:00 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
10:01 * Filly_Nightmares eees and chases Finwe tail!
10:01 <Schism> *wigglewiggle*
10:02 * Cepheid cracks his knuckles, then his wrists. The spirits of the tortured undead escape from his wrists, screaming in agony.
10:03 <ConfusionRift> Schism: I suppose I should put this one on my wtach list as well. :P
10:03 <ConfusionRift> *watch
10:03 <Schism> It's quite worthwhile.
10:03 <Cepheid> https://preview.redd.it/eks5a3ptujk31.jpg?width=640&auto=webp&s=a9c1559cfd615cc1a6bd2a8a3958f10906271b7d
10:04 <Cepheid> ...
10:04 <Schism> ConfusionRift: The protagonist also decides to shortcut a dungeon by blasting through it.
10:04 <Cepheid> Like, why even have "Copy link destination" if it isn't gonna do that?
10:04 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/eks5a3ptujk31.jpg
10:04 <Cepheid> Schism, if you have unnatural levels of power, that makes sense.
10:04 <Cepheid> Or, ye know.
10:04 <Cepheid> Just blast the dungeon period.
10:04 <Schism> Well, yeah. :3
10:05 <Schism> She managed it in the most delightfully overpowered way, too.
10:05 <Schism> A few episodes prior, she sent out a wide area search spell.
10:06 <Schism> And then, at the end...
10:09 <Cepheid> Heh, Anyhow, I'll BRB. I need to give my laptop a surface cleaning.
10:09 <ConfusionRift> Schism: And just got reminded of another animanime. :P
10:11 <ConfusionRift> Was also, for some weird reason, reminded of the self-destruct ending in Nier Automata.
10:12 <Finwe> Schism: Ah, there's no spell like scrying if you need to find something.
10:12 * Filly_Nightmares uses Finwe as a blankie and Schism as a bed
10:14 <Cepheid> Much better.
10:14 <Schism> Finwe: In the Nanoha series, the protagonist immediately realizes, "Wait, I've got a charged energy bolt. I should learn to use it efficiently."
10:14 <Cepheid> That said, one of these days..
10:14 <Cepheid> I should disassemble the frame of this laptop completely, scour the surfaces, and repaint them.
10:14 <Schism> And then she trains with it. Actually TRAINS, by juggling a freakin' soda can.
10:15 <Cepheid> This laptop has served me well, it deserves a good, complete cleaning.
10:15 <Schism> Cepheid: Hmm. Aye.
10:15 <Cepheid> So, speaking of electronics and such.
10:15 <Cepheid> I'm debating disassembling my DSi.
10:15 <Cepheid> So I can salvage the screens.
10:16 <ConfusionRift> Well, you got a 3DS, so... up to you.
10:17 <ConfusionRift> I dunno, I always the DSi as just a "hip and cool" DS, and not much else.
10:17 <Cepheid> Yeah, it was a nice form-factor upgrade to the original DS, that's about it.
10:18 <Cepheid> I'd install CFW on it, but given it's proprietary hardware created by Nintendo, there's only so much that can be done with it.
10:18 <Cepheid> It'd be better to salvage the screens, find a way to cram a Raspberry Pi into the case, and write up drivers to handle the screens.
10:18 <ConfusionRift> Was just thinking that.
10:18 <Cepheid> The bottom screen at a minimum would have to be salvaged. Top could conceivably be left alone.
10:19 <Cepheid> Depends on the connector.
10:19 <Cepheid> I got several hours today before and after class(I have an appointment at around 4 PM today. Should check on that to make sure I got the time right), I think I'll bring it with me, along with a screwdriver set, and tinker with it.
10:20 <Cepheid> Too bad the mainboard can't be used for anything fun. With the way Nintendo's got it wired up, I really can't use the ARM chip for much
10:20 <Cepheid> Thinking on it, I'll have to disassemble the top part anyways.
10:20 <Cepheid> Not to remove the screen, but rather, to find the manufacturer and other details.
10:21 <Cepheid> In order to drive it, I need to know what the screen's specs are, and then get a proper driver to run it.
10:21 <Cepheid> Driver being not a video driver, but rather a special chip that handles outputting image data to a screen.
10:22 <Cepheid> Also need similar info for the bottom screen. Likely the same stuff, just extra output pins.
10:22 <Cepheid> 'Cause ye know, touch screen and all.
10:22 <Cepheid> ...
10:22 <Cepheid> I gotta stop drinking coffee. Replace it with something else that has no milk or cream in it. x.x;
10:22 * Cepheid runs off.
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10:28 <ConfusionRift> Okay, I know I saw a more complete and compact RP3 somewhere.
10:31 <Cepheid> Back.
10:31 <Cepheid> I'm gonna change my diet, methinks.
10:32 <Cepheid> But yeah, utilizing the screens for something would be nice, at the least.
10:32 <Cepheid> I'm hoping Nintendo used the sensible solution and didn't embed the lower screen on the system board.
10:33 <ConfusionRift> Oh shoot...
10:33 <ConfusionRift> Let me see.
10:35 <Cepheid> Oh, I'll find out once I rip it open.
10:35 <Cepheid> But it seems probable that they're connected via cables. At least, the top screen is guaranteed, anyways.
10:36 <ConfusionRift> Oh, you're in luck.
10:38 <ConfusionRift> One thing to note though. There's a ribbon cable you might wanna detach, which one can easily miss. It's next to the cart slot, near the edge of the board. From afar, it looks like a circuit, but it's a popable ribbon.
10:39 <Cepheid> Heh.
10:39 <Cepheid> Anyhow, I gotta run.
10:41 <Schism> It is adorable that one of the side characters in the Nanoha series has a house full of cats. o3o;
10:41 <ConfusionRift> Actually, this is pretty neat. Almost everything is a module, so they can be detached, without having to de-solder anything.
10:43 <ConfusionRift> Everything can be salvaged.
10:45 <Schism> "Now, we have to determine which entity used the Jewel Seed..." "Mao." *stomp, stomp* "..."
10:45 <ConfusionRift> Yeah... sorry for spoiling it. Was curious and wanted to know. I wonder if I can do the same with my regular DS Lite.
10:46 * ConfusionRift should learn how to work with circuits.
10:47 <ConfusionRift> A reverse Super Metroid run is unnerving.
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10:56 <Schism> "I wonder if I'll meet her again?" --Nanoha doesn't quite get what kind of series she's in.
10:58 <ConfusionRift> Schism: It's starting to sound like you're working on a game or series in which there's a protagonist (who can hear the narrator) that's always nervous because the narrator is always ominous. :P
10:59 <Schism> While I'm not writing anything of the sort, remember too that we're fans of a series which includes Pinkamina Diane Pie.
11:00 <Schism> Also, narrators are always ominous.
11:01 <Cepheid> Let's see how on-time the buses are.
11:03 <ConfusionRift> [Finally, after an arduous fight for her life, she has defeated the giant ogre.] "Yes, finally! I did it... (phew) I just have to make it to the village, and tell everyone the good news!" [The death of the ogre has sealed her fate.] "Wait... huh?!" [The wind is howling...] "T-that's fine. I can set a camp, and stay for the night... heh..." [They hunger for blood.] "Nevermindchangedmymind!!! Running to the village!" [If only she
11:03 <ConfusionRift> knew.]
11:03 <Schism> ConfusionRift, silly question: have you seen the musical "Into the Woods"?
11:04 <ConfusionRift> I think I did, but don't remember it.
11:05 <ConfusionRift> It's like those messages that pop after defeating a specific boss in Terraria.
11:05 <Schism> Oh, it's just that sort of play. The narrator drives the story in the first act. In the second act, the rest of the cast, fed up with his shenanigans, try to appease the Giant's wife by sacrificing him to her. It doesn't work out for long.
11:05 <Schism> And without the narrator to ensure that the cast gets a happily ever after, real life ensues.
11:06 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.
11:06 <Schism> It's a Sondheim musical. o3o
11:06 <Cepheid> Gods I hate mobile UIs. *Taps menu button next to a scrollbar. Panel scrolls because apparently the scrollbar gets higher priority.
11:08 <Schism> Rifty: The cast... none of them got what they were looking for. Some of them got what they needed. Others, what they deserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdT-hVmH1DE
11:09 <Cepheid> Also, only one instance of an app. Honestly, mobile OSes are standard OSes, dumbed down such that even the most inept morons can use them, at the cost of usability for everyone else. Worst UX design choice ever.
11:09 <ConfusionRift> How about trying to save a picture, and at the hold motion the screen scrolls, landing you on an ad. So instead of saving the picture, it's loading the ad.
11:10 <ConfusionRift> Mobile in general is getting meh.
11:12 <Cepheid> Honestly, I'd prefer something akin to the Android RDP app.
11:13 <Cepheid> It lets you remotely control a Windows desktop. Doesn't sound that groundbreaking, but one of it's features is nice.
11:14 <Cepheid> It turns the screen into a touch pad like on a laptop. That is, touch the screen and move your finger, the mouse pointer moves. Tap, clicks. Touch and hold down in one spot, right click.
11:14 <Cepheid> Amazingly usable on a phone or mobile device.
11:14 <ConfusionRift> User: I sure do like the home and option buttons. | Dev: I got an idea! How about we remove the options button? | User: Okay? Why? | Dev: We can integrate it to the UI, and be convenient on all apps and modules. | User: Oh, okay. At least I got the home button.
11:14 <Schism> ConfusionRift: Also, I'm quite certain that you're familiar with "Into the Woods" due to one song from a show we all enjoyed for the first few seasons.
11:16 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUzk2BC2Ssg < At The Gala!
11:16 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Into The Woods part 11 - Ever After
11:17 <Cepheid> Hum. Boss idea for a game. Machine death god. It drags itself along a tunnel with hooks it slams into walls. Occasionally a robot or machine appears on the opposite side of the screen. The boss slams a hook into the machine, and pulls it into a grinder/crusher, then regenerates some health.
11:17 <ConfusionRift> (a couple of years later) Dev: Good news! We're making the screen bigger! | User: Nice! | Dev: And removing the home button. | User: WHY?! That's my "escape" button! | Dev: No one uses it anyways. | User: I guess? Well, getting a bigger screen. At least I got my phone jack | Dev: About that...
11:19 <ConfusionRift> Sooner or later, we're just getting a screen and nothing else. Everything would have to be Bluetooth compatible, otherwise it's useless. So have fun with touchscreen, because it's gonna be the one and only thing.
11:20 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: That sounds familiar for some reason.
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11:21 <Cepheid> Viy, la-mulana. Sort of. Inspired by it anyway.
11:22 <Schism> That sounds like one of the bosses in Super Meat Boy, too.
11:22 <Cepheid> As for Bluetooth, it isn't that bad these days. More recent versions have improved reliability considerably.
11:22 <ConfusionRift> Actually, the final boss in TF4 would occasionally slam against the wall as it shoots at you. The hooks show up after taking down the thrusters, which it uses to continue climbing up.
11:22 <Cepheid> Ah yeah.
11:22 <Schism> Also, wasn't there a giant enemy crab in a Castlevania game that did that?
11:23 <Cepheid> I guess when you are trying to escape the most powerful gods damned fighter in existence, using whatever approaches you can use to escape or destroy it is fair.
11:23 <Cepheid> Yeah. The last decent CV game to appear on the DS did it.
11:23 <ConfusionRift> The one from Order of Ecclesia?
11:23 <Cepheid> Yeah thats the one.
11:23 <Schism> Ohey, yeah.
11:24 <ConfusionRift> That was an intense fight, and a very satisfying end.
11:24 <Schism> That was excellent, aye.
11:24 <ConfusionRift> It kinda hurts it happens rather early.
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11:24 <Cepheid> Makes it better if you can reach it on Hard level 1 mode.
11:25 <Cepheid> Or any hard mode really.
11:25 <Cepheid> Since the damage is jacked up to maddening levels.
11:25 <Cepheid> Like playing endgame from the start.
11:26 <ConfusionRift> I know there have been many bosses that spew minions, in which they later on use to regain health.
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11:26 <ConfusionRift> Can't think of good example though.
11:27 <Schism> "Prioritize the damned adds." --me, in half the fights in FFXIV while I'm playing the healer
11:27 * ConfusionRift have been thinking on maybe jumping to an RPG, but isn't sure.
11:27 <Cepheid> Well for the game I have in mind, I'm using death gods as the bosses. It's set in the distant future, and alien civilizations have risen and fallen, each with their own dominant death god. These death gods are aspects of the Big Bad, which have to be destroyed in order to reveal the Big Bad itself and go off to kill it.
11:28 <ConfusionRift> RPGs are hard for me to jump to, but there isn't much going in my preferred genres.
11:28 <Cepheid> So there will be different interpretations of said death gods. Machine, peaceful, violent, warring, etc.
11:28 <Schism> "Damned if I know why, but most of these death gods seem to be ORDER gods."
11:29 <Cepheid> Heh.
11:29 <Schism> 'I wonder if there's a reason for that.'
11:29 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1682 [ http://tinyurl.com/y42kceyg ]
11:32 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: "May the gods bless your tormented soul and grant you peace." | "Your story ends here, blasphemer!" | "Your blood shall power my anger and that of all gods." | "The changes of winning are worrying. Should you prove me wrong?" | "BlarghPHAAAHPFFFFF!!!"
11:33 <ConfusionRift> "...ignore that one."
11:34 <Cepheid> Brb. Off to hiding spot.
11:38 <Cepheid> Right, back.
11:41 <Cepheid> I want to treat the final boss as a mind-reading entity, consisting of a centralized core, and numerous "tendrils" living within a higher physical dimension that provides it a full, wide view of the existence we live within. It manipulates various species that reach a certain advancement point in technology to provide it with energy, through what we as humans would call souls.
11:41 <Cepheid> The end of each tendril exists within our dimension, but appears as one or more deities to each civilization.
11:42 <Cepheid> That is, it's a puppeteering monster.
11:44 <Cepheid> In any case, that's a project that's on hold for a while.
11:44 <Cepheid> Until I can learn to pixel art.
11:46 <Cepheid> Hum, any new updates to .NET Core 3?
11:46 <Cepheid> Hum, still August 13 as the latest update.
11:46 <Cepheid> Still, it's getting near to completion.
11:49 <Schism> Randomly: have some cute *eons. https://twitter.com/accelldraws/status/1168992828841693187/photo/1
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11:54 * Cepheid puts on P3 - Battle Hymn of the Soul.
11:54 <Cepheid> Not sure which name of the song I like more. o3o
11:54 <Cepheid> "Battle For Everyone's Souls." or "Battle Hymn of the Soul."
11:55 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jepE8R69LGE
11:55 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
11:55 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about P3D\/P5D Persona Dancing Battle Hymn of the Soul (PSB2017)' Super Bomb Live DLC Song
11:55 <ConfusionRift> That's one thing I'm gonna give to that series. They have some good music.
11:55 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiHnfbmOWfo >> How exactly they made a harp sound like a metal-stringed guitar, I'd like to know.
11:55 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
11:55 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about FFXIV OST - Vamo' alla flamenco
11:55 <Cepheid> Mmm. They do.
11:56 <Jackie2> Cepheid, I'm working on writing both ABC and MIDI file parsers without dependencies
11:56 <Cepheid> In fact, I like the music so much, that had I the money..
11:56 <Cepheid> For a game, I'd hire the Persona musical team.
11:56 <Cepheid> Nice, Jackie2. Good luck with that.
11:56 <Jackie2> Python tho
11:56 <Cepheid> Given it's rising prevalance, not a bad idea.
11:57 <ConfusionRift> Schism: Whoops. :P
11:57 <Cepheid> Speaking of Persona..
11:57 <Cepheid> I need to order Persona Q and Persona Q2.
11:58 <Cepheid> But yeah, Persona music is awesome. Also, I like the Persona series for one other reason.
11:58 <Cepheid> One of the few series that tries to use more common weapon choices of a modern society in a JRPG.
11:58 <Cepheid> With exception to the US, finding a bunch of high-school or college teens with guns isn't likely. Swords too, probably. But golf clubs, chairs?
11:59 <Cepheid> That's much more likely. o3o
11:59 <Schism> ConfusionRift, how I feel right now: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDRh81vXkAANb31
11:59 <Jackie2> Cepheid, I shamelessly use MIDI to learn music theory (Musescore turning them to sheet music)
11:59 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: PSA: Youtube Thumbnails Are Showing Major Spoilers for Upcoming Episodes [ http://tinyurl.com/yy3x4rs6 ]
11:59 <Cepheid> There is no shame in using it to begin with for that reason.
11:59 <Cepheid> Everyone learns something in different ways.
12:00 <Cepheid> I'm self-taught in programming, always have been, always will be, college and university diplomas and degrees be damned in saying otherwise.
12:00 <Cepheid> Besides, self-teaching is a good practice to pick up if you're serious about being a software developer of any kind.
12:00 <Schism> Huh, link doesn't work. Okay. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDRh81vXkAANb31?format=png&name=small
12:00 <ConfusionRift> Really, browser? Really?
12:01 <Jackie2> Idk
12:01 <Cepheid> Contrary to many student's beliefs, professors cannot, and will not, teach you everything you need to know.
12:01 <ConfusionRift> Schism: It did. Just add .png at the end. :P
12:01 <Jackie2> Programming an open source music gen is something that I dream of
12:01 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:02 <Cepheid> Really, the only thing I think you need to learn at this point, and maybe accept sooner or later, is that not everything you do as a software developer will be open source. Personal projects, yes, those can be open source.
12:03 <Cepheid> But many employers have this idea that the code you write should be secret, and thus, closed-source.
12:03 <Cepheid> Nevermind that a majority of the code you write is just application of a bunch of public, well-known concepts.
12:03 <Jackie2> Okay what about if this music gen I'm making is my own personal software and I want to GPL open source it
12:03 <Cepheid> Like I said.
12:03 <Cepheid> Personal projects, yes, those can be open source.
12:04 <Cepheid> Also, there are actually some benefits to closed-source software, in terms of getting employment, for the record.
12:04 <Cepheid> Writing open-source software, and allowing others to contribute to it, has the benefit of showing leadership and working well with others, etc.
12:04 <Jackie2> Are you saying that open source can't be successful
12:05 <Cepheid> No.
12:05 <Cepheid> I'm just saying that there's benefits to both approaches, and negatives.
12:05 <Cepheid> Let me put it in a different perspective.
12:05 <Cepheid> As an employer, a team lead, I would want to see a number of things from you.
12:05 <Cepheid> I'd want to see that you can work well in teams, take leadership if necessary. Open-source projects you work on will show me that.
12:05 <Jackie2> I'm not programming as a profession
12:06 <Cepheid> But at the same time, open-source projects often involve contributions from others. The code becomes less and less "yours" so to speak. What is your code, and what isn't, becomes blurred.
12:06 <Cepheid> As such, I can't see what you've done personally. Hence closed-source, or stuff that you just don't release to the public, is useful.
12:06 <Cepheid> Since *THAT* stuff will show me what you, personally, can do.
12:06 <Cepheid> ... Of course, even that's getting harder and harder to do.
12:07 <Jackie2> I just git push when it's at least functioning
12:07 <Cepheid> Universities and colleges are teaching that using snippets from places like stackexchange is acceptable practice.
12:07 <Cepheid> Yep.
12:07 <Cepheid> At least you're learning that early on.
12:07 <Cepheid> Write changes, test, then git push. Repeat.
12:07 <Cepheid> Had too many students and colleagues learn that the hard way.
12:08 <Jackie2> I prefer Git over Team service
12:08 <Cepheid> Prof of mine actually suggested writing some automation to automatically git commit every time you save.
12:09 <Cepheid> Personally I'm indifferent to the approach used for VCS. Git is the most prevalent right now, works quickly, and is quick to set up. Not the easiest for public service, though. Mercurial works better in that regard. Team services from Microsoft, no idea.
12:09 <Cepheid> But even Microsoft is encouraging Git at this point.
12:09 <Jackie2> How many devs actually use Git?
12:09 <Cepheid> They have plugins for most of their dev environments now.
12:09 <Cepheid> A lot.
12:09 <Cepheid> A lot also use Mercurial("hg" as it's known on the command line) and a few others, though.
12:09 <Jackie2> Google should use git for googlesource
12:10 * Cepheid shrugs
12:10 <Cepheid> They probably use git internally, to be honest.
12:10 <Cepheid> Just their upper management types demand they use something else forward-facing the public.
12:12 <Cepheid> Actually, that's pretty much something that affects what the developers do.
12:12 <Cepheid> Or use.
12:12 <Cepheid> The sole reason Windows tends to be a common target platform is because of the fact that there are departments that look into stuff like market shares, cost of software platforms, etc.
12:12 <Cepheid> Internally, the developers can use whatever they want, but the output has to be targeting some platform because of market shares, usually.
12:13 <Cepheid> This is why I prefer promoting cross-platform development approaches over picking a single target platform like Windows, Linux or Mac OS X exclusively.
12:13 <Cepheid> Interop is better than trying to compete to be the best.
12:14 <Cepheid> Gives people the choice to use whatever platform they want, rather than be restricted to one platform.
12:14 <Cepheid> That said..
12:14 <Cepheid> Apple is mucking things up big time.
12:14 <Cepheid> They're ditching 32-bit software support.
12:14 <Jackie2> That sucks tho
12:14 <Cepheid> Yeah, it's gonna hurt them.
12:15 <Jackie2> Can't play old games anymore
12:15 <Cepheid> Developers are looking into the impact. A good majority of the Apple store will be impacted.
12:15 <Cepheid> I'm all for dropping 32-bit support, but there needs to be a translation layer implemented first.
12:15 <Jackie2> Meanwhile the Linux kernel and Windows still supporting it
12:15 <ConfusionRift> Apple? Messing things up? Noooo waaaaay. :P
12:16 <Cepheid> I'm gonna catch hell for this..
12:16 <Jackie2> I wouldn't drop it
12:16 <Cepheid> But Windows actually does one thing better than Linux does, right now, based on observation.
12:16 <Cepheid> And experiences.
12:16 <Cepheid> Windows, right now, continues to "support" even the older versions of libraries.
12:16 <Jackie2> Apple should have a multiarch thing
12:16 <Jackie2> I mean
12:16 <Cepheid> As such, when I update to a newer version of the OS, software generally tends to continue working.
12:16 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Linux and Apple?
12:17 <Jackie2> CPUs natively support 32 bit
12:17 <Cepheid> Well, they kinda uninstall old versions of libraries to replace them with newer versions.
12:17 <Cepheid> Oops, suddenly, that game depending on a version of a library that was installed no longer starts up.
12:17 <Cepheid> Because the old version was removed in favour of a new version.
12:17 <Cepheid> Can't count the number of times this has screwed me over in Linux.
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12:17 * Sleeping_Nightmares curls up on Jackie and goes sleepies on
12:17 <Cepheid> I'm not in favour of the DLL hell problem, but right now, DLL versioning is needed.
12:18 <Jackie2> Doesn't mean the OS sucks
12:18 * Sleeping_Nightmares clutches and sleepies
12:18 <Cepheid> That's true.
12:18 <Cepheid> Kernel doesn't know any different.
12:18 <Cepheid> But all the various distributions do it.
12:18 <Jackie2> I still consider Linux to be powerful tho
12:18 <Cepheid> They uninstall old versions to avoid conflicts, in favour of newer versions.
12:18 <Cepheid> Oh, it is. Same with Windows, if you use it right.
12:18 <Cepheid> Mac OS X...
12:18 <Cepheid> It's.... Let me put it this way.
12:19 <Cepheid> I'd rather use Windows 3.1
12:19 <Cepheid> Too locked down, despite being based on an open-source OS, and Apple keeps deprecating stuff.
12:19 <Cepheid> They deprecated OpenGL, in favour of Metal.
12:19 <Cepheid> OpenGL is still relevant in Linux and Windows, even though Vulkan is starting to supersede it.
12:20 <Jackie2> I kinda like the favor of only the NT kernel being open source while the software and drivers being closed
12:20 <Cepheid> And at this rate, Vulkan's gonna become the dominant API for graphics programming. Even under Windows.
12:21 <Cepheid> You hear nothing of D3D11 or D3D12 these days. They're used in games, yeah, but very rarely do you hear talk of them or their benefits. And with DXVK, and similar libraries, they're becoming even less relevant.
12:21 <Jackie2> DirectX is not friendly for cross compatibility
12:22 <Jackie2> DXVK is a huge step in WINE and Proton
12:22 <Cepheid> Vulkan in general is a huge step.
12:22 <Cepheid> It's basically a cross-platform, open-source variant of D3D11 and D3D12. Alas, I cannot make use of it.
12:22 <Cepheid> Laptop's too old.
12:23 <Cepheid> It's haswell gen, and Intel's a pain in the ass with their video drivers under Linux. They don't want to fully implement Vulkan.
12:23 <Jackie2> This one strangely has Vulkan support
12:23 <Jackie2> HD graphics and stuff
12:23 <Cepheid> Yeah, Intel after haswell has support for Vulkan.
12:24 * Cepheid goes to do a full system upgrade of his laptop. Supposedly latest MESA has some fixes for Vulkan on Haswell.
12:24 <Cepheid> I mean, I can use it, but there are problems.
12:25 <Cepheid> Last time I tried to run a Vulkan app on this laptop, I had a flashing green screen periodically.
12:25 * Jackie2 avoids buying hybrid GPUs for dual booting
12:25 <Cepheid> Oh gods.
12:25 <Cepheid> Don't ever deal with those, yeah.
12:25 <Cepheid> It's a nice idea, from a power-saving perspective, but support is a pain in the butt.
12:25 <Jackie2> Idk, hybrid GPU laptops are not my thing
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12:26 <Cepheid> Like I said, nice idea from power-saving perspective, but a pain in the butt.
12:26 <Cepheid> That said, in the future, I'm gonna see about avoiding nVidia hardware.
12:26 <Cepheid> nVidia keeps demonstrating idiocy.
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12:27 <Cepheid> nVidia's implementation of core features is... getting to be problematic.
12:27 <Cepheid> And this is outside of their open source stance.
12:27 <Cepheid> They keep implementing core features in a non-standard way, that ends up resulting in software using what are SUPPOSED to be standardized features having to write special work-arounds for nVidia.
12:28 <Jackie> I've never seen someone tried their new GPU on a Linux
12:28 <Cepheid> Gnome Mutter and KDE Plasma come to mind.
12:28 <Cepheid> Both have workarounds for how nVidia implemented EGLStreams.
12:28 <Cepheid> Since apparently nVidia can't follow the damned specs.
12:28 <Cepheid> Even non-EGLStreams stuff is broken.
12:28 <Jackie> It's very proprietary in a negative way
12:29 <Cepheid> EGL being what is supposed to be a vendor-neutral way of initializing OpenGL.
12:29 <Cepheid> And using it.
12:29 <Cepheid> Except the fact that there needs to be work-arounds for using it, means it's not vendor-neutral.
12:30 <Jackie> So they ignored Khronos stuff
12:30 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, for their RTX cards, I can confirm they work fine under Linux with the binary, proprietary drivers.
12:30 <Cepheid> Sort of.
12:30 <Cepheid> Like I said, EGL stuff is broken, so Mutter and Plasma perform like garbage.
12:30 <Cepheid> Open-source drivers... yeah, good luck.
12:30 * Jackie uses Deepin
12:31 <Cepheid> Last time I tried nouveau with the 2060, it wouldn't even boot Linux with the framebuffer working right.
12:31 <Jackie> Does it work on NVIDIA tho
12:32 <Cepheid> Alas, the RTX series cards don't work with the open-source nvidia drivers.
12:32 <Cepheid> And even if they did, the drivers don't have acceleration for many of the cards.
12:32 <Jackie> I feel sorry for those hybrid users running Linux
12:32 <Cepheid> That said, nVidia did inexplicably release a bunch of documentation for nVidia card implementations.
12:33 <Jackie> What's taking NVIDIA so long releasing binary drivers
12:33 <Cepheid> However, none of it relates to reclocking the GPUs, so they're still stuck at the low-performance modes.
12:33 <Jackie> This is like way back in 2012
12:33 <Cepheid> Oh, that old driver.
12:34 <Cepheid> Yeah, that driver isn't being updated for newer chipsets, and never will be.
12:34 <Cepheid> I'll BRB. Need to make a phone call.
12:35 <Jackie> Shouldn't NVIDIA be supporting Optimus on Linux this year?
12:36 <Cepheid> Oh, it's too early to call the place. Whoops.
12:36 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's what I heard.
12:38 * Lumindia boops Jackie's snoot
12:38 <Lumindia> snoot boop!
12:38 * Cepheid tries to figure out how best to implement unions in C# code.
12:41 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XAsRYPpw8E
12:41 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
12:41 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Mob Psycho 100 Opening 2 (FULL) - 99.9 English Op Cover by Jonathan Young
12:41 * Cepheid blares this.
12:43 * ConfusionRift watches a SteamWorld Dig 2 TAS run.
12:43 <ConfusionRift> Guh!
12:44 * Cepheid guhs. This union implementation's gonna be a pain in the rear.
12:59 * Cepheid spins his own MemoryArray implementation.
13:02 * DashedRainbows plays with ConfusionRift's hooves
13:02 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P
13:02 <Cepheid> My brain be going into overdrive state.
13:02 <Cepheid> This is good and bad.
13:03 * DashedRainbows barks
13:08 * ConfusionRift flops. Needs sleep.
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13:20 <Cepheid> ERrghh.. I feel like I'm gonna throw up.
13:21 <Cepheid> Anyhow, let's see... Almost 9:30. Should go look for my lecture room today, since I don't recognize the room number.
13:34 <Cepheid> I know whats wrong with me now.
13:35 <Cepheid> Combination of two factors.
13:35 <Cepheid> One, I consumed a coffee and then a few hours later, an enery drink. My metabolism is likely spiking basketballs constantly.
13:36 <Cepheid> Two, I went a full day without my meds. The balance in me is a bit off today, causing my brain abd body to spaz.
13:37 <Cepheid> I took the chance when I was outside to power walk/jog/climb hills. So I'm feeling a bit better.
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13:46 <OctaveSymphony> I are sad, have to wait until October to get my Death Guard marines
13:47 * LibrarianofHope gives much soap
13:47 <LibrarianofHope> they need soap, they very dirty
13:47 <LibrarianofHope> and rusty
13:48 <LibrarianofHope> i myself just finished building my broadside suit
13:48 <LibrarianofHope> its lovely, so much boom making stuff
13:51 <OctaveSymphony> I need to buy one of those
13:51 <OctaveSymphony> Though I think I want the Forge World variant
13:55 <LibrarianofHope> i saw one yesterday in one of my favorite shops
13:55 <LibrarianofHope> its hugeeee, amazing looking
13:55 <LibrarianofHope> stupid expensive, but its so pretty
14:03 <OctaveSymphony> What the... FW no longer makes it ;-;
14:03 <LibrarianofHope> must be the tau titany eqivalent i saw
14:04 <OctaveSymphony> FW Broadside has two rail rifles, one on each arm
14:06 <OctaveSymphony> https://hobbyworld.com.ua/published/publicdata/HOBBYWOR/attachments/SC/products_pictures/xv88-2pr_enl.jpg
14:06 <LibrarianofHope> looks old
14:06 <LibrarianofHope> they upgraded the models a lot, more dynamic
14:07 <OctaveSymphony> It is old
14:07 <OctaveSymphony> I just loved the dual arm weapons
14:08 <LibrarianofHope> im liking the more dynamic looking new models
14:09 <LibrarianofHope> imma try continuing my polishing of the Black Library submission, had a burnout flare
14:26 <OctaveSymphony> Well, back in ze day, that was dynamic >>
14:26 <OctaveSymphony> Compared to the basically monopose crisis suit variant of hte broadside
14:26 <OctaveSymphony> Old model had two big pewter rail guns mounted on the shoulders
14:27 <Cepheid> Son of a-
14:27 <Cepheid> I'm gonna have to dual-boot this laptop.
14:28 <Cepheid> Prof wants me to use Visual Studio for Fundamentals of Game Development.
14:28 <Cepheid> Ah well.
14:30 <Cepheid> Or not.
14:30 <Cepheid> I can use Linux, but I'll have to remember to test on Windows, though, under Visual Studio 2017.
14:31 <Cepheid> Eh. I'll dual-boot anyways.
14:31 <Cepheid> Want to see how Windows 10 fares on my laptop nowadays anyways. Been some time since I last tested.
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14:52 <LibrarianofHope> submission sent
14:52 <LibrarianofHope> lets see how i do
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16:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
16:15 * LibrarianofHope sneak glomps Ali
16:16 * Ali squeaks
16:19 * OctaveSymphony jumps onto the pile!
16:19 * Ali splats under everypony
16:21 * Ali wonders if Cepheid is around, had a few questions for them for Factorio progress.
16:23 <Cepheid> I'm here.
16:24 <Ali> Remember that layout for trains you asked about a few months ago? To have a single unloading station? I was wondering about using that and strip mining all the small resource areas instead of just direct feeding to a line and the train sitting there till empty.
16:25 <Cepheid> That would be fine, yes.
16:25 <Ali> I'd only have a few hours to build it before being busy for a few more hours
16:25 <Ali> So I don't know if I should just wait to jump on.
16:27 <Cepheid> I'm busy all day today, so go nuts.
16:28 <Ali> AKA not playing today :P But understandable if you're busy
16:31 <Ali> I'm guessing cause sick and school starts soon Cepheid?
16:33 <Cepheid> Not sick, though I do feel shitty, yes. The rest is school and appointments I have.
16:33 <Cepheid> For the record, my schedule is pretty straightforward. Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays are all early or free days for me.
16:34 <Cepheid> No, wait, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
16:34 <Cepheid> Tuesday and Thursday I get out late.
16:46 <Cepheid> I feel kinda *YAY* because I walked through the tunnels. Bad idea.
16:46 <Cepheid> Lots of bad air down there.
16:47 <Cepheid> My chest hurts because I wandered through it.
16:48 <Ali> And my today thing is poofed
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16:51 <PinkieShy> Everything in town closing early tonight supposedly.
16:53 * Ali snuggles on PinkieShy
16:58 * Cepheid is finally crashing from caffiene overdose from earlier. o3o;
17:00 <PinkieShy> My neighbors told me they aren't leaving at all
17:00 <Ali> Oh look, bugs in the pollution ring :P I'll deal with them when I can
17:05 * Ali hugs PinkieShy to stay safe
17:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: Pasta / Dilemma / Student Six #293 / Love is Magic 87-90 / Apprentice Tempest #3 / Storms #24 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3jpwa93 ]
17:15 <Ali> Cepheid, minor problem
17:15 <Cepheid> Oh?
17:16 <Ali> Spitters are already showing up
17:16 <Ali> And Med Biters aren't far behind
17:16 <Cepheid> Heh.
17:22 <Ali> Gonna go all in on stone to start to set up the grand wall
17:22 <LibrarianofHope> im goign to build a wall, and the bugs are gonna pay for it
17:22 <LibrarianofHope> owo
17:23 * Ali will nom it down or bash right thru it :P
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17:29 <Ali> Cepheid, I'm gonna guess you didn't turn down the evolution factor
17:29 <Ali> I don't mind the expand outwards part, but I'm a softy for getting big bug attacked earlyish X.x
17:36 <Finwe> Miss Ali.
17:36 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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17:51 * Cepheid acquires two screens, a system board, and some screws.
17:58 <Cepheid> Hum. I'm gonna pack out and head over to the doctor's office.
18:00 <Ali> Hopefully they can get you something to help with what's been bothering you Cepheid
18:00 * DashedRainbows licks Shed-34046's internet, and good morning horses
18:04 <LibrarianofHope> ali, i posted ma submission to balck library
18:04 <LibrarianofHope> pray to thr bug god i get hireds
18:04 <Ali> Heh
18:04 <LibrarianofHope> its a strong concept, it has ground to stand.
18:05 <LibrarianofHope> at any rate, back to my own book
18:09 * DashedRainbows chews on LibrarianofHope
18:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: My Little Pony: FiM BGM - 'She Talks to Angel' [ http://tinyurl.com/y5v7g29v ]
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18:27 <Cepheid> It is just an eye appointment to check my eyes
18:27 <Cepheid> Gonna ask about my minor blindness problem outside. See if he can suggest anything to help with it.
18:40 * Cepheid sets up a digital sign. All it says is "23%".
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18:58 <PinkieShy> I'm back :)
18:59 <PinkieShy> Just took a nap XD
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19:04 * Ali pet pets PinkieShy
19:07 <Ali> Love how Magic is making all these new Knights and History of Benalia rotates out at the same time
19:09 <Cepheid> So, fun interesting news. For the low, low price of 35 dollars, I get unlimited refills of drinks at the cafeteria for the semester.
19:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Fanfiction: Just a Stone’s Throw from Sanity [ http://tinyurl.com/y6k4pnwn ]
19:10 <Ali> That seems high for just a semester
19:10 <Cepheid> School sustainability initiative. Buy a reusable bottle, they give you unlimited use of their drink machines.
19:11 <Cepheid> Ali, a typical drink at this school costs 5 dollars.
19:11 <Ali> Dear lord
19:11 <Cepheid> 35 dollars would last me 7 days.
19:11 <Ali> Here I thought stadium/con prices were horrid
19:12 <Cepheid> School cafeterias gouge like you wouldn't believe.
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19:17 <Ali> Cepheid, can you do a server update....it just randomly updated to .68
19:17 <Cepheid> I noticed on the way to the office yeah. Unfortunately I can't do it from here.
19:18 <Cepheid> So to get back to 67...
19:18 <Ali> I know dear
19:18 <Ali> I just go to the pulldown and reset back to 67
19:18 <Cepheid> Either manually install 67, or if you are using steam, right click Factorio in the menu, properties, go to the beta tab, select version manually.
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19:33 <Shed-34046> Okay that took almost forever..
19:33 <Shed-34046> and my connection is starting to die on me pff..
19:34 <Shed-34046> I blame the weather.
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20:03 <Ali> Cepheid, the number of bugs is starting to get silly
20:07 <LibrarianofHope> how much bug would be considered silly?
20:07 <Ali> Well LibrarianofHope its Factorio so its hard to explain
20:07 <Ali> But we're already getting attacked by medium biters, which is rather worrysome
20:09 <Ali> Doesn't help about the desert though, its just allowing the stink cloud to go whereever the hell it wants
20:10 <Ali> If the evolution factor was lower I don't think I'd have a problem
20:12 <Ali> Oh and the bugs expand
20:12 <Ali> So if you don't put up walls to stop them, they'll just go right back into the stink cloud and attack
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20:17 <Cepheid> Huzzab. Getting eyes dilated.
20:18 <Ali> Always fun
20:18 <Cepheid> Then build a wall around the stink cloud Ali. Even a simppe single-tile wide wall should work.
20:18 <Ali> I'm trying!
20:18 <Ali> But half desert stink is quite the challenge!
20:18 <Ali> Also there's more bugs to the west than I hoped. God I wish I had a rocket launcher.
20:19 <Ali> All oil is going to go straight to battery production so we can get accumulators up to get off coal power.
20:21 <Ali> Base is running out of coal, patches are drying up fast
20:21 * Ali flails as she tries to manage things!
20:22 <Cepheid> Don't panic. Focus on one thing at a time.
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20:30 <Ali> Well right now your steel plant is offline, but there's not a high demand on steel right now so I'm not gonna reboot that just yet.
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21:03 * LibrarianofHope dances Funky
21:04 <Ali> And there's batteries Cepheid
21:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Lo-fi Music: Steryotype - HoldTheLine [Lo-fi] [ http://tinyurl.com/y5op9r74 ]
21:21 <Schism> Boy, School-Live looks like a cute little anime, Cepheid. Surely not creeptacular at all.
21:22 <Cepheid> You tryint to torture me?
21:22 <Schism> Whatcha mean?
21:25 <Cepheid> Suggesting I watch an anime that might be cruelty in some form. Like the *NOM*.
21:25 <Schism> Ah. Yes, this... well. It looks like a perfectly innocent schoolgirl club anime.
21:25 <Schism> Right up until the facade pops.
21:26 <Schism> And behind that facade... zombies.
21:27 <Cepheid> Why are my eyes continuing to dilate further? Guh. Being outside is giving me a headache because of it.
21:29 <Cepheid> Asked the doctor about that by the way. Says it is just light sensitivity. Nothing he can do. Just suggests picking up large sunglasses clipons for when I go outside.
21:29 <Cepheid> Or continue to live in the darkness I always do.
21:30 <Ali> Ok Cepheid, base is walled in
21:30 <Cepheid> Cool.
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21:33 <Ali> Problem is...there's a lot more bugs to the east than you might think
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21:34 * Cepheid continues to get into his murderhobo outfit. "Hmm? You say something?"
21:35 * Ali squeaks and shuts up
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21:37 * Cepheid drives east, his car covered in automated flamethrowers, turrets, and cats. Guns firing, flames, loud screeching cata can be heard moments later.
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21:39 <Cepheid> I can't see *YAY*.
21:49 <Ali> Jeez how many more solar panels do I need to even BREAK even
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21:58 <Schism> It's a pity that biters attack solar panels. After all, they don't generate pollution! But still, alien infrastructure yadda yadda.
22:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3089 [ http://tinyurl.com/y49uo6ws ]
22:18 <Ali> Finally, some dynomite
22:19 <Ali> Then some cliff explosives
22:19 <Ali> SO I CAN GET RID OF THE *YAY* CLIFFS
22:22 <Schism> Hm, Megaman Legacy Collection 2 is 50% off on Steam.
22:28 <Schism> Hmmm. I didn't know that 9.9.9.9 was also a valid DNS, run by Quad9. Neat.
22:30 <LibrarianofHope> Ali is the only one of us that can get away woth swearing.
22:30 <LibrarianofHope> no one can ban her
22:30 <Schism> 8.8.8.8, of course, everyone knows is Google's. (And 8.8.4.4.) 4.2.2.1 is a different one, I believe Verizon's. 9.9.9.9 is Quad9's, and 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 are Cloudflare's.
22:30 <LibrarianofHope> unlimited (Cute)
22:31 <LibrarianofHope> powah!
22:31 <Schism> As long as Ali remains cute, she is invincible.
22:31 <LibrarianofHope> Dreadit, run for it, the banhammer always arrives
22:32 <LibrarianofHope> you should have aimed for my nicj
22:38 <Cepheid> ... A Xenoblade remake.
22:38 <Schism> Aye.
22:38 <Schism> Wait.
22:38 <Cepheid> A bloody Xenoblade remake.
22:38 <Schism> A XenoBLADE remake? As in Xenoblade Chronicles? As in the game released in 2010?
22:39 <Cepheid> not a re-release.
22:39 <Cepheid> Yes!
22:39 <Cepheid> Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition.
22:39 <Schism> For a moment I thought I'd heard of a XenoGEARS remake, and you were referencing THAT. But for the love of Finagle, Monolith.
22:39 <Cepheid> It isnt just an upscaled graphics port either.
22:40 <Schism> Huh. Actual gameplay modifications to make it better?
22:41 <Cepheid> no no.
22:41 <Cepheid> They redid it from the ground up.
22:41 <Cepheid> It is on par with Xenoblade Chronicles 2 in appearance.
22:42 * Schism hmms. "Nice, then. Not the first series that's done that. And I did hear that Xenoblade's gameplay, originally, was kind of wonky?"
22:42 <Schism> And it's easy to forget that it's nearly 2020. ._.
22:42 <Cepheid> Eh... not that wonky. I prefer it over XBC2.
22:42 <Schism> Mm.
22:42 <Cepheid> But it is a good thing they are doing it.
22:43 <Cepheid> As Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is directly connected in a twisted manner.
22:43 <Cepheid> And no one would be able to experience the other half of the story right now.
22:43 <Cepheid> There is the 3DS port, but... yeah.
22:44 <Cepheid> I just hope they keep the same VAs for the English release. No one can replace Metal Face.
22:47 <Cepheid> https://youtu.be/TkbB7URH4yA Around 17:30 or so. You hear his voice there. You'll understand why I like it.
22:48 <Cepheid> Also, his movements are beautiful.
22:51 <Cepheid> You know, that game has held up quite well, visually.
22:51 <Cepheid> Monolith really knew what they were doing when they worked on that game, with the limits they had. Thry focused on certain effects to get the best results for each scene.
22:54 <Cepheid> I want to play that game again now.
22:55 <Cepheid> I also want to learn how to replicate that vein effect with the red light.
23:04 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/HeeewwWin/status/1169380604170973184?s=19 By the way, Schism
23:05 <Schism> That's quite the change.
23:07 <Cepheid> Yeah. Though, I'll be honest. I'm not shocked.
23:09 <Cepheid> It was one thing to include Shulk in Smash Brothers, but when you see him and Fiora in XBC2, with fully updated models and full voice acting... I kind of suspected they might have been in the process of gearing up for a remake.
23:10 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Korosuke_1201/status/1169382502223372290?s=19 Man.
23:11 <Cepheid> Also Undertale fans are foaming at the mouth now. Apparently Sans is in Smash Ultimate. Or at least coming anyways.
23:13 <Lumindia> .....
23:13 <Lumindia> nope, I'm done
23:13 <Lumindia> if that's true, I'm done with console gaming
23:13 <Cepheid> As a Mii fighter costume.
23:13 <Lumindia> oh okay
23:14 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/theSirToasty/status/1169385066407124994?s=19
23:14 <Lumindia> that's... slightly better?
23:15 <Lumindia> Nope, I'm done
23:15 <Cepheid> Honestly why are you shocked? Ultimate is basically the Super Robot Wars of fighters at this point.
23:15 <Lumindia> calling Miyamoto and asking him to cancel smash
23:15 <Cepheid> Let them have their fun.
23:15 <LibrarianofHope> you wanna have a bad time lumindia?
23:16 <Lumindia> I already am
23:16 <Schism> Mostly, Sans being in Smash would be just plain wrong. He's the weakest character in the game! 1 HP, 1 ATK.
23:16 <Lumindia> ._.
23:16 <Cepheid> I want my Xenoblade remake.
23:16 <LibrarianofHope> i want to boggie
23:16 * LibrarianofHope boogies
23:16 <LibrarianofHope> Dark and Darker still
23:17 * Cepheid adds 8-bit Theatre Black Mage and Fighter to Lumindia's FF14.
23:17 <Schism> Welcome to Corneria.
23:18 <Lumindia> we have the 'minion of light'
23:18 <Cepheid> If he is gonna be overdramatic about one character being added to Smash, then I'm just gonna make his life a living hell. :P
23:18 <Schism> To be honest, Shantotto is... uh... kinda like Black Mage.
23:18 <Lumindia> which is the fighter, black mage, and white mage
23:19 <Cepheid> Yeah, you noticed I specified 8-bit Theatre.
23:19 <LibrarianofHope> i havent read them in adecade
23:19 <Cepheid> That means their personalities as well. And they are a part of the story.
23:19 <Schism> Well, no. Shantotto is like Black Mage crossed with Satsuki Kiryuin.
23:19 <Cepheid> A core part of it.
23:19 * LibrarianofHope pokes lumindia with undertale references
23:19 <Schism> hOi!!11
23:20 * LibrarianofHope gives the dog residus to wild temmy
23:20 <Cepheid> I haven't played undertale myself. Debating it judt for the sake of completion of gaming.
23:20 <Schism> It's well worth playing through.
23:21 * Schism uses the dog residue. 9 more copies appear in his inventory.
23:21 <LibrarianofHope> in this world, is meme, or be memed
23:22 <Cepheid> Not so much that. It's just it has such a cult following.
23:22 <Lumindia> honestly, though, I don't have a problem with undertale... it's the goddamn fanbase I take issue with
23:23 <LibrarianofHope> thtas a pointless focus on energy
23:23 <Cepheid> Me playing it for the sake of seeing what the big deal is would be like someone else playing Xenoblade to see what the big deal is/was, from my perspective.
23:23 <LibrarianofHope> dont interact with them, move on with the day
23:23 <Lumindia> I don't interact with them
23:23 <Lumindia> doesn't stop me from taking issue with them
23:24 <LibrarianofHope> again, waste of mental energy
23:24 <LibrarianofHope> but you do you
23:24 * LibrarianofHope pokes cepheid
23:25 <LibrarianofHope> what i want is a resolution of the doki doki thing
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23:25 <Schism> DDLC? That game resolved itself just fine.
23:25 <LibrarianofHope> this salvato guy has a gold mine of ab idea and he isnt moving
23:25 <LibrarianofHope> the secret things, points to a bigger prey for me
23:25 <LibrarianofHope> something else to hunt
23:26 <Schism> Oh, yeah, there were references to their next project.
23:26 <LibrarianofHope> Monika is hinted to be a sort of AI, i want the full picture
23:26 <Lumindia> clearly she's just Haruhi
23:26 <LibrarianofHope> nuuu, haruhi is a resonable goddess
23:27 <Lumindia> and heckin' cute
23:27 <Lumindia> o wo
23:27 <Schism> Haruhi isn't the goddess. Kyon is the god. o3o;
23:27 <LibrarianofHope> monika is.... a tennager with god powers, and it ebded up
23:27 <LibrarianofHope> as expected
23:27 * Schism is now depressed again. Because the staff responsible for Suzumiya Haruhi...
23:28 <LibrarianofHope> thing for me ism if Monika is a rogue Ai or a Machine spirit , a human mind digitiized.
23:28 <Schism> LibrarianofHope, the thing is, if you remove Monika's file before it's actually necessary, then Sayori turns into the person who knows everything about the world around her. And she snaps. BADLY.
23:28 <LibrarianofHope> yep, i know
23:28 <LibrarianofHope> the things i dont know bother me
23:29 * LibrarianofHope makes a digital clone of schism and lumindia to send them and figure out that
23:29 <Schism> LibrarianofHope, you should play CrossCode.
23:30 <LibrarianofHope> dont have time to play anything, have to get back to schedule after the black library sidetrack
23:32 <LibrarianofHope> question
23:32 <LibrarianofHope> consider the sun vanished vanished sudennly
23:32 <LibrarianofHope> what would happen to the solar system?
23:37 <Cepheid> Lumindia, the reality is that there are always going to be annoying fanbases. For every friggen game.
23:37 <LibrarianofHope> we should know, bronies
23:38 * Schism is on a server which is adjacent to Balmung. Knows this very well.
23:38 <LibrarianofHope> the bad sections
23:41 <Cepheid> That said, one Atlus game is coming to the Switch that I never got to play. Fire Emblem Tokyo Mirage Sessions.
23:41 <LibrarianofHope> persona a la fire emblem
23:41 <LibrarianofHope> never finished it, but its fun
23:42 <Cepheid> I never picked ut up myself.
23:42 <Cepheid> Also I was unaware Daemon X Machina was coming out next week.
23:42 <LibrarianofHope> is it?
23:42 <LibrarianofHope> its a mech thing no?
23:43 <Cepheid> Yeah.
23:44 <Cepheid> There's a demo out for it now. Will check it tomorrow. I've been drugged, sooo....
23:46 <Cepheid> Also, free-to-start kirby game that strikes me as Kirby x Monhan.
23:49 <Cepheid> All I need now to die happy is Xenoblade X with a proper ending. That game was good too, but the ending was handled worse than Xenogears.
23:50 <Cepheid> "There's something about this planet...." *Cut to black. Credits.*
23:50 <Cepheid> *Absolutely no closure from the big reveal in the ending*
23:51 <Cepheid> At least with Xenogears, the game gives you a freakin novels' worth of text to finish the story.
23:51 <PinkieShy> aaaaah !!!! :D
23:51 <PinkieShy> Sans is in smash bros ultimate!!! :D
23:52 <Cepheid> Yes Pinkie, Sans in Smash. Stay away from Lumindia, lest he maim you.
23:52 <Lumindia> eh
23:52 <Lumindia> I'm over it now.
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23:52 <Lumindia> and he's only a mii costume
23:52 <Schism> All those bones would completely unbalance him against Duck Hunt otherwise.
23:56 <Cepheid> You have one character who, eith the Smash Ball or whatever, can summon all previous incarnations of the Hero from Dragon Quest/Warrior to beat the *YAY* out of someone. And Sans bones are too OP?
23:56 <Schism> Doesn't Smash Ultimate also have Cloud and his ultimate limit break?
23:57 <Cepheid> I don't recall.
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