Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Saturday, 2019-09-21

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00:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by We Are Borg: New Cutie Mark Crew Macaron Mystery Set Revealed [ http://tinyurl.com/y2n6bpao ]

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00:16 <Cepheid> Mmm.  IR Update.

00:16 <ADragonDreaming> mmm?

00:17 <Cepheid> Just updates to Industrial Revolution mod.

00:20 <Cepheid> I'll worry about it tomorrow.

00:20 <ADragonDreaming> not updating server mod version, then?

00:20 <Cepheid> I'll do it by backing up the server completely, installing the update, and checking to see what breaks.

00:20 <Cepheid> Not tonight, no.

00:20 <ADragonDreaming> aight

00:21 <Cepheid> Because if I do it tonight, and something breaks, I'll be asleep and unable to fix it or restore it.

00:21 <Cepheid> https://mods.factorio.com/mod/IndustrialRevolution/changelog If you want to take a looksee.  We're at 99.3

00:21 <ADragonDreaming> are you planning to play on the server at all tonight?

00:21 <Cepheid> So 99.4 and above are new.

00:21 <Cepheid> I don't think so.  I'm feeling kinda tired as is.

00:22 <Cepheid> I'll be on tomorrow for a bit, though.

00:22 <ADragonDreaming> kay-o

00:22 <Cepheid> The assignment due tomorrow evening, worst case scenario, I turn it in a day late, and lose 10%.

00:23 <ADragonDreaming> oh hey, support in mod settings for Burner Leech option.

00:23 <Cepheid> Yeah.

00:23 <Cepheid> Want me to enable it?

00:24 <ADragonDreaming> we're kind past it now.

00:24 <Cepheid> Yeah, true.

00:24 <ADragonDreaming> ah, disassemblers are going to go away

00:24 <Cepheid> Yeah, being replaced with scrappers.

00:25 <Cepheid> In theory, updating it should be painless.

00:25 <ADragonDreaming> air filter cost is going up, good thing we already filtered all the stuff.

00:25 <Cepheid> The modding API takes into account the whole "mod updates" thing.

00:25 <Cepheid> There's three scripts designed for handling data, updates to pre-existing data, and further updates that have to occur *AFTER* the updates to the pre-existing data.

00:33 <Cepheid> Ah to hell with it.  *Hops on*

00:34 <Cepheid> Lemme do the update right quick.

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00:36 <Cepheid> Server's back up.

00:42 <ADragonDreaming> I'll sign on and work on some things then, though there's a GURPs game tonight as well.

00:42 <ADragonDreaming> after I update the mod

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00:45 <Cepheid> It should auto-update when you connect.

00:45 <Cepheid> It'll ask you to sync mods.

00:50 * Schism places a slice of delicious strawberry pie on ADragonDreaming's head.

00:56 <ADragonDreaming> nummy

00:58 <Jackie> How does random.seed work for turning an object to an integer

01:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Updates - September 20th  [ http://tinyurl.com/y5vsurpj ]

01:01 <Jackie> https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/fd4f28d894ee55d7ee1625c726c1859fcd1e2249/Lib/random.py#L97

01:27 <Cepheid> Based on that, it doesn't.  Unless the object is a string, 'bytes' or 'bytearray', it hashes the associated elements.  If it isn't, then it uses the system time or some other OS-specific source of randomness.

01:32 <Jackie> 6356749211817039981933486091559444479870612652304246336266046131430260606642450822700623961208611556720098044552164254783475811574413181220233422198972258280150849446197214288421

01:32 <Jackie> this is "derpibooru" in seed int

01:32 <Jackie> according to this

01:33 <Jackie> https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/fd4f28d894ee55d7ee1625c726c1859fcd1e2249/Lib/random.py#L120

01:38 <Cepheid> Thats bigint in behaviour.  Arbitrary-sized integers.  Pretty much guarantees a distinct hash, I guess.

01:41 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/yu_fuse2/status/1175032809775194114?s=19

01:55 <Jackie> Cepheid: so I can say that seed can have up 512 bits

01:56 <Jackie> Which is this

01:56 <Jackie> 13407807929942597099574024998205846127479365820592393377723561443721764030073546976801874298166903427690031858186486050853753882811946569946433649006084096

01:59 <Jackie> lmao

01:59 <Jackie> it's usable as a seed

02:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1924 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5q9hc5r ]

02:03 <Cepheid> Jackie, with arbitrary precision, you can use a seed up to n bits in length.  n being your systems total RAM count in bits.  Minus what the OS and software are using.

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02:33 * Ali squeaks to Cepheid and ADragonDreaming

02:33 <ADragonDreaming> hi

02:34 * DashedRainbows offers Ali some tea, whatever she likes

02:34 * Ali reads something about the server

02:34 <ADragonDreaming> mod update

02:35 <Ali> Also ADragonDreaming I made a copper line of labs in my SP world

02:35 <Ali> https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007206389/screenshot/785239053016681812

02:35 <ADragonDreaming> Cepheid got on briefly and killed a couple bug bases

02:35 <ADragonDreaming> noice

02:35 <Ali> But did he wall up?

02:35 <ADragonDreaming> nah, we weren't on for long

02:35 <Ali> Kinda useless to kill dem bugs if not pushing out

02:36 <ADragonDreaming> useful in terms of halting waves.

02:36 <Ali> Sorry I had to nap pretty bad cause I got sleepy

02:36 <ADragonDreaming> I had to do same

02:36 <ADragonDreaming> also, we were on for like... 30, 20 minutes.

02:36 <Ali> Pft

02:37 <Ali> So IR had made some chagnes to things?

02:37 <ADragonDreaming> yeah

02:37 <ADragonDreaming> disassembling is replaced with scrapping

02:37 <ADragonDreaming> support for burner leeching is added as a mod setting.

02:37 <Ali> What's burner leeching?

02:37 <ADragonDreaming> burner inserter fuels itself from inventory it is pulling from, if fuel exists in that inventory.

02:38 <Ali> Doesn't it do that already?

02:39 <ADragonDreaming> no, burner inserter won't fuel itself when extracting from a furnace by default.

02:39 <Ali> I had a stupid burner inserter when I wanted it to put raw wood into a assembler, its fuel tank was empty so it started fueling itself first.

02:39 <ADragonDreaming> yes

02:39 <Ali> So you can turn that behavior off now?

02:39 <ADragonDreaming> this is talking about the inserter that pulls ingots from a furnace, for example.

02:39 * Ali headtilts

02:39 <ADragonDreaming> not the ones that pull fuel items straight from the belt

02:40 <Ali> So are you saying that now a 5th feeder inserter is useless since it  would pull the needed fuel from the furnace's fuel tank?

02:40 <ADragonDreaming> If you turn that option on, yes.

02:41 <ADragonDreaming> Factorio added it as a default supported option, if mods choose to enable it

02:41 <Ali> Meh, saving a single burner inserter seems useless now

02:41 <ADragonDreaming> more like, for IR, you no longer have to use an inserter to load fuel into other inserters. ever.

02:42 <ADragonDreaming> except for those that pull from belts that have no fuel.

02:42 <Ali> Which is what I use that 2nd inserter for

02:42 <ADragonDreaming> it's a reduction of logistical complexity, basically.

02:42 <Ali> I don't see it changing anything for me

02:43 <Ali> I'm just glad I managed to get a working copper thing going powering 8 labs

02:44 <Cepheid> I'll wall up tomorrow morning.  Leave it to me.

02:44 <Ali> So what ammo did you use on the bugs Cepheid?  Iron I'd guess since steel was limited?

02:45 <Cepheid> Yeah.  Leftover Iron Ammo I had.

02:45 <Cepheid> Also, got cliff explosives researched.

02:46 <Ali> Yeah, that was on the list of things to tech

02:46 <Ali> Though the oil factory is going to need a rather large rework to handle future needs/demands

02:47 <Ali> Not too fond of plastic being a liquid

02:47 <Cepheid> Heh.

02:48 <Ali> Also I /think/ I figured out how to properly use a long burner inserter but really my designs have been to never use it.

02:50 <Cepheid> Heh.  Anyhow I am headed off to sleep now.  Finally cooling off enough in my room.

02:50 <Ali> Night night

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03:00 <ADragonDreaming> I'm doing some singleplayer IR with lots of pausing because a GURPs game

03:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: S01E07 "Dragonshy" Music: BlackIceMusic - How Dare You [Melbourne Bounce] [ http://tinyurl.com/y2zrlyyv ]

03:00 <Ali> I'm thinking of firing up my SP world to poke around in.

03:01 <ADragonDreaming> Forgot that I can't crush iron ore, built five copper crushers for no raisin

03:01 <ADragonDreaming> or, well, bronze.

03:01 * Ali gives ADragonDreaming some raisins. "Not sure why you want to crush these~"

03:02 <ADragonDreaming> belting a real iron setup to the bus will be fun.

03:03 <Ali> What do you mean?

03:03 <Ali> We have iron on the belts

03:04 <ADragonDreaming> I mean in my SP

03:07 <Ali> Looks like my factory didn't bork duing the update

03:07 <Ali> So what all did they change?

03:07 <Ali> Other than the disassembler

03:07 <ADragonDreaming> https://mods.factorio.com/mod/IndustrialRevolution/changelog

03:08 <Ali> Donkeyshame

03:08 <ADragonDreaming> lots of little bug fixes it looks like.

03:09 <ADragonDreaming> 99.3 is what we were at

03:09 <Ali> I updated to 99.6

03:10 <ADragonDreaming> yep.

03:10 <ADragonDreaming> that's what we're at now.

03:11 <Ali> Ah, the filter is more complex

03:11 <Ali> And a new icon, I approve as it looked too much like the copper destorying thing

03:12 <ADragonDreaming> oh yeah, that.

03:13 <Ali> Like to know where this bug base is that keeps slamming itself into my turrets

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03:25 <Ali> What is this iron scrap?

03:26 <PinkieShy> Muwhahaha >:D

03:27 <PinkieShy> I just turned into Nightmare moon in VR :D

03:27 * Ali blasts PinkieShy with the elements

03:29 * PinkieShy shatters from the elements as he isn't the true nightmare moon but a clone

03:29 * PinkieShy is now confetti

03:36 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.

03:36 * DashedRainbows brings Finwe a stick

03:36 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows and Filly_Nightmares; Messrs ADragonDreaming, Cepheid, PinkieShy, Lumindia and Schism.

03:36 * Finwe doffs his hat.

03:36 * Ali squeaks at Finwe

03:37 <ADragonDreaming> "The scrapping process returns scrap, funnily enough. Scrap can be melted down back into ingots. 1 scrap = 3 ingots."

03:37 * Finwe ruffles an Ali.

03:46 <Ali> Well I'm out of rubber trees and only 3 rubber saps.  Time to let the radar do some work for me.

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03:50 <Ali> ADragonDreaming, they added gold plates to the 2nd filter

03:53 <ADragonDreaming> gold plates were already part of it

03:54 <ADragonDreaming> it was just gold plates and some basic iron stuff.

03:57 <Ali> Huh

04:01 <Ali> Oh that's rich, electric miners need rubber.

04:21 <DashedRainbows> How is everyhorse?

04:21 * Ali licks DashedRainbows

04:21 <Ali> Ok so far

04:22 <DashedRainbows> Yay!

04:25 * DashedRainbows gives Ali a stick

04:25 * Ali stares at it

04:27 <DashedRainbows> Have a flying pony ride

04:28 <Ali> Wow gates ADragonDreaming are expensive

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04:37 <PinkieShy> my phone is faster now..

04:37 <PinkieShy> so far..

04:37 <PinkieShy> Factory reset and had to uninstall like 10 preinstall adware from games, slot machine and carrier apps for stuff i don't use..

04:40 <DashedRainbows> New phone?

04:40 <DashedRainbows> Oh nvm

04:40 <DashedRainbows> Didn't read well

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04:53 <Ali> I tell you ADragonDreaming, I either get a desert world or a world that's nothing but 99% trees

04:53 * ADragonDreaming pats

04:55 <ADragonDreaming> meanwhile I am desperately trying to get out of coal-burning age.

04:55 <RazorSharpFang> I'm super tired after working 11 hours yesterday, starting at 6:30 AM

04:56 <DashedRainbows> That's really long tho

04:56 <Ali> I'm in the Iron Age right now ADragonDreaming, but expansion is a bit.... cramped

04:56 <Ali> All the resources are badly scattered and layered in trees

04:57 * DashedRainbows just did something scary

04:57 <ADragonDreaming> I'm in the iron age as well but I need to get power up and running.

04:57 <Ali> I have power up, but I'm only using it to power radar cause I'm a lasy *yay* and don't like to scout

04:57 <DashedRainbows> Why is messaging ppl so hard

04:58 <Ali> Cause the fear of rejection is hard

04:58 * Ali knows this a bit too well

04:58 * DashedRainbows hides Bering l behind Ali

04:59 <DashedRainbows> Meh

05:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Comic: Pinkie Pie Says Goodnight – Guarded [ http://tinyurl.com/y28sfafn ]

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05:04 <bigdiVk> hi

05:04 * Ali waits for it.

05:05 <DashedRainbows> Hammer tiem?

05:05 <Ali> Pft no, I'm waiting for the quit in like 20 seconds :P

05:05 * DashedRainbows plays with a toy hammer

05:06 * Ali ruffles DashedRainbows's mane

05:06 <bigdiVk> do you jerk off to my little pony?

05:06 <Ali> And there it is

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05:06 <Ali> Pft, thanks Colgate for stealing my fun :P

05:06 <Colgate> :)

05:06 <Ali> I was on watch with that guy due to that nick

05:07 <Ali> Just waiting for the moment for the stupid to spill out

05:07 <DashedRainbows> Hammah!

05:08 <Ali> I mean, the nick was uncreative and thinks a V will not make me instantly think troll inbound

05:13 <DashedRainbows> Another reason I like it here, actual mods

05:13 <Ali> Yeah I know

05:14 <Ali> And IRCops that will take out the trash without needing to be mostly pestered first

05:14 * DashedRainbows shivers

05:15 <Ali> I mean, I can handle some pests, but ones that can cycle hostmasks like crazy, well that needs IRCops to deal with

05:15 <DashedRainbows> Hmm

05:16 <DashedRainbows> The powah!

05:24 * DashedRainbows flops about

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05:37 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

05:38 * DashedRainbows licks ConfusionRift till he's dripping

05:38 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P

05:40 * DashedRainbows gives ConfusionRift her chew toy and trots off to bed

05:40 * ConfusionRift patpats DashedRainbows before going to sleep.

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05:55 * Ali licks ConfusionRift till he's drippin

06:00 <ConfusionRift> Aaaaah!!!

06:00 * ConfusionRift boops Ali. :P

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06:01 * Jackie pets Ali

06:08 * Ali squeaks

06:10 * Jackie rubs head :3

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06:19 * Jackie pets Filly_Nightmares

06:19 * Filly_Nightmares eeee

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06:46 * Jackie purrpurrs

07:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain:  Season 9 Episode 21 - Daring Doubt - Stream / Discussion  [ http://tinyurl.com/y5onr499 ]

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08:49 * Golden pegs Filly_Nightmares

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08:50 * Golden nuzzles back

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09:23 <OctaveSymphony> There we go, that should be it for odd reconnections

09:24 * Jackie pats OctaveSymphony

09:25 <OctaveSymphony> Network stuff is fun to tinker with

09:27 * ConfusionRift nods, and then slowly shakes his head. :P

09:29 * Jackie pets

09:30 <OctaveSymphony> Updating a computer that hasn't been networked since 2013 :P

09:31 <OctaveSymphony> Was hell to just get it to connect

10:10 * ConfusionRift finally, after centuries of suggestions, after so much references, he finally checks out La-Mulana.

10:10 <ConfusionRift> 5 seconds in, and I can tell what this game is gonna be. :P

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10:23 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P

10:25 <DashedRainbows> How is ConfusionRift tonight?

10:25 <ConfusionRift> Doing alright, just playing a game.

10:27 * DashedRainbows nods and plays with her chew toy

10:41 * DashedRainbows licks everyhorse

10:58 * ConfusionRift yawnsies. Gonna get something to bite.

10:58 * ConfusionRift boops DashedRainbows with the toy. :P

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11:17 * Filly_Nightmares chews on DashedRainbows

11:38 * ConfusionRift returns.

11:39 <ConfusionRift> Found some Hawaiian bread, cheddar, and turkey ham. I guess this is like a sandwich+.

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11:41 <Schism> That does sound sandwich-like, yes.

11:42 <Schism> ConfusionRift: "Hey, dark side who's afraid of success and doesn't want me to climb this mountain!  You know what you need?  A HUG!" "GET AWAY FROM ME.  *zap zap zap zap*"

11:43 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.

11:46 <Schism> The Core, meanwhile, is an evil zone.

11:51 <ConfusionRift> Which core? :P

11:53 <Schism> The core of Celeste Mountain.  :p

11:56 <Schism> It's one of those levels where you have to switch back and forth between fire and ice.

12:03 <ConfusionRift> Yep, sounds like something they would do.

12:05 <ConfusionRift> How could I have forgotten about Links Awakening.

12:05 * ConfusionRift sighs.

12:08 <Schism> In what context?  o3o

12:08 <ConfusionRift> The remake?

12:08 <Schism> Ah, yup.

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12:16 * Filly_Nightmares bats at Schism

12:16 * Schism balances cookies on Filly_Nightmares' nosie.

12:23 * Filly_Nightmares wigglewaggles her nosie at Schism!

12:51 * DashedRainbows yawns

12:53 <ConfusionRift> ...woooowww...

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12:54 <Schism> Yerf?

12:56 * Schism uses Ramza's [Yell] on himself, then repeats a few times.

12:57 <ConfusionRift> Okay, so... not sure if you knew I backed Bloodstained.

12:57 <Schism> No, but I expected you might.

12:58 <Schism> Looks like folks consider it a solid game?

12:58 <ConfusionRift> Well, as the game goes, it was pretty good. If I were to pay the release price, it would have been a good game to go for.

12:58 <ConfusionRift> Now, to talk about the background problems...

12:59 <ConfusionRift> I received the game a few days after its initial release, with other backers having the same problem.

13:00 <ConfusionRift> JUST the game. Everything else, which were supposed to have been delivered with the game, are STILL on hold.

13:01 <ConfusionRift> I had zero issues with the game, but many found bugs, which some being game breaking.

13:01 * Schism blinks, "Oooof. And that was a few months ago..."

13:01 <ConfusionRift> They say I'm supposed to receive it at the end of this month... pffft.

13:01 <Schism> Yeah, we'll see.  >_O

13:02 <ConfusionRift> Oh, just in case, the Switch version apparently is unplayable.

13:02 <ConfusionRift> In any case, I got the digital rewards at least, but am missing the physical stuff.

13:03 <ConfusionRift> I have been patient, and have just sat back in wait.

13:03 <ConfusionRift> Now, with the Xbox Game Pass... they decided to add the game to the lineup.

13:04 <ConfusionRift> What does that mean? It means that people, in a short time, got it for free.

13:04 * ConfusionRift sighs.

13:05 <ConfusionRift> So the update and comments section of the backer page is just a wall of fire right now.

13:06 <Schism> Sheeeesh.

13:07 <ConfusionRift> Just letting that out because BL3 was also a problem. And it's been like this for a while.

13:07 * DashedRainbows patpats ConfusionRift

13:07 <Schism> BL3 also went Epic Exclusive after they promised their backers a Steam key.

13:07 <ConfusionRift> UPS tried to deliver it, wasn't there, and then held it for like a week... and I preordered it.

13:08 <Schism> Furrfu.

13:08 <ConfusionRift> So... MONEY DRAAAAIN!

13:09 <Schism> Hmmm, what sold... ah, HQ Teak Cane and a Wind-Up Dullahan.

13:11 <ConfusionRift> So... yeah, that was the last preorder, and my last backer project.

13:12 * ConfusionRift was gonna jump on R-Type, but that project was already backed long ago.

13:12 <Schism> Descriptively, I assume, instead of comparatively.

13:12 <Schism> Sheesh...

13:14 * ConfusionRift gives Schism a bunch of d20s.

13:14 * Schism scatters them across a highway.

13:15 * ConfusionRift notices them landing on one.

13:16 <ConfusionRift> Does that mean you failed to throw them to the highway, or that would be a critical failure on those going over them?

13:16 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm.

13:17 * ConfusionRift pokes one, and it starts levitating and spinning. "That's not a d20... that's a lucky blo-" Explodes.

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13:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

13:19 <ConfusionRift> Wait...

13:19 * ConfusionRift looks at the clock. "Oh MY GOODNESS!!!"

13:19 * Schism boops the Ali with some cookies.

13:19 <Schism> It's pine o'clock?

13:19 * Ali yawns, up too early but can't sleep cause she'll melt.

13:20 * Schism pours some tea into Ali.

13:20 <ConfusionRift> It's "the sun is up and shining" o'clock! Lucky I go in late

13:20 * Ali flails at Schism, that stuff is hot.

13:20 * ConfusionRift lightly pats Ali. He knows he's gonna suffer the same as well, real soon. "Get ready, future me."

13:23 * Ali leans into ConfusionRift pats.

13:23 <Ali> Ugh I feel so groggy

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13:26 * Ali baps Lumindia with dirt blocks

13:27 <Lumindia> https://i.imgur.com/EossmYZ.jpg

13:27 * Lumindia baps with Llamas

13:27 <Lumindia> one of the llamas just died

13:27 <Lumindia> because the wandering trader just hanged them

13:27 <Tirek> A+

13:28 <Tirek> I have awoken.

13:28 <Tirek> My fermented soda has carbonated.

13:28 * Ali baps Lumindia with bees

13:28 * Lumindia sets the bees on fire

13:28 * Lumindia is apiphobic

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13:30 <Ali> Why don't you tell them to buzz off instead *shot*

13:30 <Schism> Why do you have so many leaves, Lumindia?

13:30 <Lumindia> that's kelp

13:31 <Lumindia> and "Reasons" is my answer

13:31 <Schism> Oh, okay.  o3o

13:31 <Lumindia> also I made that house

13:31 <Tirek> Do you have a furnace fuel farm

13:32 <Tirek> Or, are you intending to build one?

13:33 <Lumindia> a what farm?

13:33 * Schism grows more bonsai trees, provides Tirek with some of the lumber.

13:34 <Tirek> Kelp blocks are a highly efficient furnace fuel.

13:34 <Schism> Ah, that makes sense then.

13:34 <Lumindia> dried kelp blocks?

13:34 <Schism> Kelp is also used for nori, is it not?

13:38 * ADragonDreaming taps chin

13:38 * Cepheid awakens.

13:39 <ADragonDreaming> I think the solution is to setup sub-buses for intermediate products.

13:39 <Ali> Who knows~

13:39 <Ali> The thing about IR vs Vanilla is there's a lot of changes to the production chain

13:40 <ADragonDreaming> I put together an un-optimized electric mining drill production chain, and it gets plate starved very quickly.

13:40 * Ali blinks. "You're on the server?"

13:40 <ADragonDreaming> No.

13:40 <ADragonDreaming> Singleplayer, while I was eating breakfast

13:40 <Ali> Ahhh

13:40 <ADragonDreaming> I have to do some lawn work and such.

13:41 <Schism> "Of course!  It's so simple! ...wait, no it's not.  It's needlessly complicated."

13:41 <ADragonDreaming> Needlessly ... depends on your viewpoint.

13:41 <Ali> The issue right now is we need to claim more ore sources and that would help with the starve, though not sure how bad it is on the server.

13:41 <Ali> My SP looks a bit heavily devoid of resources but NOT TREES

13:42 <ADragonDreaming> Vanilla factorio has unrealistically simple recipes, Schism. Like a few plates and some steel beams and some electronic circuits and you have a fully automated production machine, or a few gears and some wires and circuit boards and you have a fully robotic loader arm, etc.

13:43 <Ali> A plate and a gear and you've got belts

13:43 <ADragonDreaming> Industrial Revolution adds in the need for pistons, and big frameworks, and etc

13:43 * ConfusionRift should be asleep. "Lateeeers."

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13:43 <ADragonDreaming> And instead of just some circuitboards you have to put together actual logic controllers

13:44 <ADragonDreaming> so it's more complex, but it does make sense.

13:44 <ADragonDreaming> anyway

13:44 <ADragonDreaming> I'll go mow lawn

13:44 <ADragonDreaming> then be around for server play

13:44 <Ali> The complex isn't too bad, but it mucks with the mind a bit

13:44 <ADragonDreaming> yeah

13:44 * Changeling_Nightmares curls up on Ali and goes sleepies on!

13:44 <Changeling_Nightmares> Nini!

13:44 <Changeling_Nightmares> I wuv you!

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13:44 * Schism wraps the Surreal_Nightmares in pancakes for beds!

13:45 <ADragonDreaming> which is why I think a secondary bus for the iron intermediates, which only gets devoted to machines that need them in the recipes en masse, would help with the logistical complexity.

13:45 * Ali shrugs on what just happened and noms Schism legholes

13:45 <ADragonDreaming> anyway bbiab

13:45 * Surreal_Nightmares snugglies into Schism and Ali and goes sleepies on!

13:45 *** Surreal_Nightmares is now known as Sleeping_Nightmares

13:45 * Sleeping_Nightmares purrs

13:47 <Cepheid> Hoookay there buddy...

13:47 <Cepheid> Spitfire is extra friendly this korning.

13:47 <Cepheid> morning

13:47 <Schism> D'aww.

13:49 <Ali> Rawr mewl yowl

13:52 <Cepheid> Basically yeah.

13:54 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/PDcr4vbOqIE

13:54 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

13:54 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Overly friendly cat pets

13:55 <Ali> Cepheid, Luna does that to me

13:55 <Cepheid> Yep.

13:55 <Ali> She comes up, yowls and twitchytails

13:56 <Cepheid> This happens every morning when I wake up and eat breakfast.

13:56 <Ali> Then she demands attention, if not given she tries to run off with a brush/nailclipper/toothpick

13:56 <Cepheid> Spitfire meanwhile tries to punish me.

13:58 <Cepheid> Schism, if you are ever interestee in a cute story told in an unusual manner...

13:58 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/DnDGreentext/comments/a6bygs/an_arctopus_tale_part_1/?utm_source=reddit-android

13:58 <Ali> Yeah but does Spitfire buttshove your face?

13:59 <Cepheid> Would also be a good read for Adra probably.

13:59 <Cepheid> Not in the morning no.  Primarily when he curls up on my lap, or jumps up/down onto me at night when I'm in bed.

14:00 <Ali> Luna does it to me whenever she wants when she demands attention

14:02 <Cepheid> Heh.

14:02 <Cepheid> https://m.yummypets.com/mag/2018/03/21/113910/why-cats-show-their-butts

14:05 <Ali> Yes yes I know why she does it, but its annoying

14:06 <Ali> Of course that link just sends me to a SIGN UP NOW page

14:06 <Cepheid> ...  Huh.  not for me.

14:08 <Cepheid> Spitfire is getting fat.  Has a bag of flubber hanging down.

14:12 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/d76zqj/an_amazing_transformation/

14:18 <Lumindia> spitfire chomnk

14:20 <Cepheid> Not that kind of chonk, no.

14:21 <Cepheid> He doesnt bulge out.  He just has a small bit of flab hanging down.  Sorta like a person who once used to weigh a lot, but then lost so much weight their

14:21 <Cepheid> skin would hang off their limbs a bit.

14:22 <Lumindia> I just wanted an excuse to use the word 'chomnk

14:23 <Cepheid> Fair nuff.

14:32 * Cepheid heads upstairs after doing a bunch of chores and stuffs.

14:33 * Ali melts

14:33 <Cepheid> Warm today?

14:33 <ADragonDreaming> yay showers

14:34 <Ali> Its been warm for awhile

14:34 <Ali> And rain?  What's that?

14:35 <Cepheid> It got a bit warm up here last night.

14:35 <Cepheid> It's been generally cool for the last while, but last night?  Got so warm I had trouble sleeping.  That's why I was up later than I said I'd be, ADragonDreaming.

14:35 <ADragonDreaming> no, I mean I took a shower

14:36 <ADragonDreaming> Cepheid: yeah, I know the feeling

14:36 <Cepheid> One of these days I need to properly calibrate this TV of mine, if I even can that is.

14:36 <Cepheid> I'd need a colorimeter, though, and those are expensive.

14:39 <Cepheid> So, apparently the Beyond Meat burgers aren't very healthy.  Sorta like real burgers. :P

14:40 <Cepheid> Hum.  Google claims to have achieved Quantum Supremacy.

14:41 <Cepheid> For the uninitiated, this means they managed to create a fast quantum computer that has achieved the ability to perform a calculation that would take a classical supercomputer 10000+ years, in far less time.

14:41 <ADragonDreaming> neat!

14:41 <Cepheid> Apparently, the calculation in question was performed in 3 minutes, 20 seconds.

14:42 <ADragonDreaming> consumer-grade model when?

14:42 <ADragonDreaming> :P

14:42 <Cepheid> Not for another 50 years, probably.

14:42 <Cepheid> Not that it matters as much as you'd think.

14:42 <Cepheid> The thing about quantum computers, is, like classical computers, they aren't the best at everything.

14:44 <ADragonDreaming> yeh

14:47 <Cepheid> Okay, so I need some upgraded gear in Factorio, so let's start with that before I decide to move *ANYTHING*.

14:50 <Lumindia> henlo

14:50 <Cepheid> Lumindia, you should join us. o3o

14:50 <Lumindia> blah

14:51 * Lumindia blahs at Cepheid

14:51 <Cepheid> Don't like Factorio?

14:55 * DashedRainbows licks Ali and rolls over

14:56 <Lumindia> eh

14:56 <Lumindia> it's alright

15:01 * Schism acquires a Poison Ivy orchestrion roll. Still no Belladonna card, though.

15:02 * Schism also gets a Plague Doctor's Mask, which is of course great.

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15:09 <Cepheid> First, some cleanup. o3o

15:11 <Lumindia> blah... nearly drowned myself getting nine emeralds

15:13 <Ali> You guys on the server?

15:13 * Ali sorries as she had to step away for dog duty...ick

15:13 <Lumindia> SSP for me

15:14 <Lumindia> you got a 1.14.4 server running or something?

15:14 <Cepheid> I am, Ali.

15:14 <Cepheid> ADra's still off doing his own thing, presumably he is busy.

15:14 <ADragonDreaming> Lumindia: Factorio is in 0.17.something

15:14 * Ali nod nods, offers her help

15:14 <Ali> .17.69

15:14 <ADragonDreaming> Is not Minecraft

15:15 <ADragonDreaming> completely different game

15:15 * Cepheid grabs clipboard, paper, does math.

15:15 <ADragonDreaming> Was finishing a task.

15:15 <ADragonDreaming> am the done now

15:16 <ADragonDreaming> I do like how quickly Factorio reboots when altering mod settings

15:16 <Schism> "How did you find me?" "Oh, I developed an algorithm to map all possible points in the universe, then skipped to the one you were actually at and went there.  I had a teleporter and graph paper.  It was easy."

15:23 <Lumindia> 0.17.69

15:23 <Lumindia> nice

15:23 * Lumindia is suddenly five years old

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15:37 <Schism> Lumindia: When you're doing a glamour run of the plague bringer's/plague doctor's/red thief's sets, the two Viera in the party want gear, and all that seems to drop are hats.

15:37 <Lumindia> :<

15:37 <Lumindia> don't speak of the red thief set

15:37 <Lumindia> I want that hat for my red mage

15:37 <Schism> So do I.  But it is MNK/SAM.  ;-;

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16:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Two New Series Finale Promos Appear! [ http://tinyurl.com/y4f6sksw ]

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17:04 * DashedRainbows licks the Ali horse till she's dripping

17:05 * Ali drips all over DashedRainbows

17:05 * DashedRainbows boops da snoot

17:13 * Ali squeaks

17:15 <DashedRainbows> squeaky.

17:17 <Schism> 23 more Roulette matches for that Vaan card... and yay, got the Louisoix card.

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17:49 <OctaveSymphony> Taser taser taser!

18:06 <LunaNightwind> oh boy beta for new call of duty is out...forced stream here i come

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18:28 * Schism casts Bafflement Bulb on Lumindia.

18:29 <Lumindia> ??

18:29 <Lumindia> not familiar with that move

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19:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Meaningful Winter Music: Przewalski's Ponies - Winter Snow (feat. Velvet R. Wings) [Gothic Rock] [ http://tinyurl.com/y2z89fls ]

19:39 <Schism> Lumindia: It's the one that puts a spinning cursor over your head, followed by the mob a move-in or move-out.

19:39 <Schism> mob casting*

19:59 <Lumindia> who uses it?

20:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Final Day for Sunset Day Submissions!  [ http://tinyurl.com/y4oqmswt ]

20:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: Do You Want the Mane 6 in G5?  [ http://tinyurl.com/yy5yfbfl ]

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21:19 <Cepheid> How goes the building, Ali, ADragonDreaming?

21:20 <Ali> Train line is started but electric trains have a...unique quirk.

21:21 <Ali> They run on batteries by no surprise

21:21 <Ali> But the basic battery life is so low, it can barely make a small circuit without burning thru them quickly.  Though this was tested with only 5 batteries.

21:28 <Cepheid> Heh.

21:32 <ADragonDreaming> taking a break for fud

21:32 <ADragonDreaming> I set up red belts and a scrapping line.

21:33 <ADragonDreaming> all our old coal-burning stuff has been returned to ingots.

21:33 <ADragonDreaming> Coal patch is mostly empty so I set-up off-loading from the steel storage

21:36 <ADragonDreaming> next goal for me is to enable real plastic.

21:36 <Cepheid> Heh.

21:37 <Cepheid> Meanwhile I need a break from this.

21:37 <ADragonDreaming> assignment?

21:38 <ADragonDreaming> I'll be useless in Factorio until I'm fooded.

21:38 <Cepheid> Yep.

21:39 <Cepheid> It's easy, it's just there's no easy way to wrap one's head around it, and the prof did not provide any sources for practice.

21:39 <ADragonDreaming> ah

21:39 <Cepheid> Also, heat's getting to me a bit.

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21:58 <Ali> Also Cepheid, the tech is working slowly towards lasers

22:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: Deep Dig / Vic Headmaud / Love at First Bump / Axe Attack / Birth #7-23 / Plant Problem  [ http://tinyurl.com/y2mhs5o3 ]

22:02 <Cepheid> So I saw.

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22:48 * DashedRainbows ponies around

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23:03 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  I got my little oil setup going.  Needs something to consume a bit more heavy oil.  Maybe add a few more Heavy Oil->Light Oil crackers.  Or change the setup so that it makes more than 1000 lubricant.

23:03 <Cepheid> Or better yet, get blue belts going?

23:05 <ADragonDreaming> check what lubricant is used in

23:05 <ADragonDreaming> blue belts are cool, but what about logistics bots?

23:06 <ADragonDreaming> then again, I think roboports are heavily tech-gated

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23:07 <LibrarianofHope_> wasssaaaa

23:07 <ADragonDreaming> I'm a sign back in

23:09 <ADragonDreaming> Oh I'm alone in here

23:09 <ADragonDreaming> or not

23:09 <LibrarianofHope_> im here

23:10 <LibrarianofHope_> so is a banana

23:10 * DashedRainbows ponies on LibrarianofHope_

23:10 <LibrarianofHope_> and dashed

23:10 * LibrarianofHope_ puts bananana on Dashed

23:11 * DashedRainbows sniffs it

23:12 <LibrarianofHope_> my harlequin troupe master ended up like david bowie

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23:12 <LibrarianofHope_> i like it, no idea how i ended with that

23:14 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  I think we're almost into Logistics Bots.

23:15 <LibrarianofHope_> nom time

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23:15 <Cepheid> But to basically explain the oil system:  I'm using circuits to provide heavy oil to the heavy->light breaker only when lubricant >= 1000, and heavy oil >= 5000.

23:15 <Cepheid> The reason for these numbers is that we always have some heavy oil on hand.

23:16 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'll be back on later tonight.  In the interim, I need to do more homework.

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23:24 * PinkieShy hands out cinnamon buns

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23:27 * Filly_Nightmares meow

23:29 <Schism> Lumindia: So, have you gotten the Emperor's New Shield?

23:29 <Lumindia> you mean the divine beast shield? Yes

23:30 <Schism> Oh, no, I mean the Heroic Spirit Shield.  o3o  Which looks much better.

23:30 <Lumindia> '-'

23:30 <Lumindia> schism plz

23:31 * Schism snickers.

23:33 <Schism> Lumindia: But how will you dye your invisible shield Jet Black?

23:35 * Cepheid finishes all by 2 questions on assignment. Is more or less trying to visualize the problem in his head, but it's not going well. He's doing it in a really simplistic manner.

23:40 <Cepheid> So my mod is moot.  Turns out someone already did it.

23:40 <ADragonDreaming> how do you want to incorporate sulfuric acid into your oil setup, Cepheid?

23:41 <Cepheid> That I haven't decided on, but I'd place it south of the plastic production.

23:41 <ADragonDreaming> you have your sulfur production north of that, though.

23:41 <ADragonDreaming> south of heavy oil?

23:41 <ADragonDreaming> or rather, heavy oil cracking.

23:42 <Cepheid> The sulfur up north was just a temporary thing.

23:42 <Cepheid> I automated your cliff explosives in a haphazard manner.

23:42 <ADragonDreaming> gotcha

23:43 <Cepheid> Last two questions are aggregate cases.  Hum.

23:50 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3106 [ http://tinyurl.com/y2eqma4n ]

23:52 * DashedRainbows boops PinkieShy's horn till it sparks

23:53 * Cepheid hands in assignment.

23:57 <ADragonDreaming> huzzah!

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